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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex bar and Lazarre.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody nailed it, Joined has always by our bar.

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Speaker 1: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Bars.

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Speaker 2: Are you focused on this right now or are you

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Speaker 2: lost in the in the your your appearance on No.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, he's saying that I am have a lack of

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Speaker 1: height in a bad back. Half of that is true.

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Speaker 2: The lack of height is definitely true. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: about the back bark. Everybody that that heard that. Alex

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Speaker 2: said that I was the pot calling the kettle black. Yeah, seriously,

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Speaker 2: I guess is that's that's fair. I mean, like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not people that can't tell from me sitting in this chair,

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Speaker 2: I'm vertically challenged. I'm not. I'm not exactly six feet

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Speaker 2: tall either. But you know, whenever there's a chance to

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Speaker 2: take a joke at you, I gotta take the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, we end up getting the pit anyway, So shout

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Speaker 1: out to David helping us out.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh at Springsteen you're talking about now.

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Speaker 1: Because that was that's what where that conversation came.

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Speaker 2: So I get Bruce Springsteen, also known as the Sports

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Speaker 2: Writers convention, Yes, which you saw multiple Patriots reporters.

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Speaker 1: Patriots reporters the reporter so as me and Matt McCarthy

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Speaker 1: from the Hub. Yeah, saw Mike Reese, Yeah, saw Does

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Speaker 1: Sebastian Volmer count as Patriots media?

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Speaker 2: He does?

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Speaker 1: Now, Sebastian Volmer was there. I saw Land Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was actually him and Marcus Kuhne were there together both planned.

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Speaker 1: Who else did I say? As DJ Bean from NBC

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Speaker 1: Sports Boston, Yeah, that was his first ever Springsteen showcase.

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Speaker 1: Believe there were no it was was there, Tom Giles,

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Speaker 1: We saw some other people. It was a fun night.

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Speaker 1: It's good night.

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Speaker 2: How many tickets do you think that media take up

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Speaker 2: to a Bruce Springsteen concert? Like, at least at least

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Speaker 2: seventy are of somebody in media.

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Speaker 1: Or seventy five percent of sixty thousand whatever.

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Speaker 2: People the whole media Boston was at that concert. Morell's agreeing.

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Speaker 2: I I think that's really what it was.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of people to be working in media,

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Speaker 1: all right, Enough with the pleasant care pandering here to

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Speaker 1: the springsteenist, does is that a thing? Springstenie says Springsteen fans,

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Speaker 1: it predates the need to have a little kitchen title

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Speaker 1: for everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Springsteener's that's better. Uh. So we have a lot

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Speaker 2: to talk about. As Alex just mentioned, we have, uh

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Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster. We've seen him out of

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Speaker 2: practice the last couple of days, along with the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, you know you. I always come

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Speaker 2: with an opening take. It's how I like to start

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Speaker 2: off the show. I was ready to come in here

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Speaker 2: if this show was like yesterday at ten am, before

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Speaker 2: waivers happened and before everybody cleared and magically reappeared at

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Speaker 2: practice on the practice squad. Yeah, I was ready to

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Speaker 2: come in here guns blazing about this whole Bailey Zappy

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Speaker 2: situation because my my first immediate reaction was to.

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Speaker 1: Analyze Zappi's role in all of this, right, and how

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Speaker 1: we went from what I'm not to take any victory laps.

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Speaker 2: If you want to take a victory lap on this

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Speaker 2: you can. I you know, I try not to not

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Speaker 2: take any victory laps this show. If you listen to

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Speaker 2: this show all last season, we never wavered on this show.

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Speaker 2: We were steadfast in the fact that Mac Jones was

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Speaker 2: a better quarterback than Bailey Zappi. Number one and number two,

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Speaker 2: what they were doing with Bailey ZAPPI was keeping him

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Speaker 2: on the rails. Honestly, like in terms of the scheme

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Speaker 2: and what they were.

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Speaker 1: At, it was a little smoke and mirrors.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was you know, Fugazi. It wasn't real. It

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Speaker 2: was it wasn't real.

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Speaker 1: It was real, it wasn't sustainable.

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Speaker 2: I think that's You're right, that's a better way of

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Speaker 1: It was. It was more we were saying. I remember

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Speaker 1: we had this conversation the week Mac came back. We

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Speaker 1: had we did a whole thirty minutes on will they

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Speaker 1: let Mac Jones run the Bailey's Appy offense?

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Speaker 2: That's what it was, right. So there's there's two things

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Speaker 2: that play here with with this Bailey's Appy thing. One is,

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better phrase, the downfall of Bailey

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Speaker 2: being chanted by the Dlatte Stadium faithful to come into

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that's fair to Bailey's Appy

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty significant turn.

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Speaker 1: Not but Bailey Zachy, did you go from that Monday

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Speaker 1: night against Chicago where sixty five thousand people are going zapy. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: same guy he's always been, right, he didn't chill. He

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Speaker 1: changed some things this summer, but it's more the downfall

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Speaker 1: it's more the downfall of them. The fever has broken

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Speaker 1: because I don't think Bailey's at like, did he have

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Speaker 1: a good summer?

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Speaker 2: Other puns can we come up with on this?

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Speaker 1: Did he have a good summer?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I also don't think he didn't. I I didn't think

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Speaker 1: I don't think he did anything monumentally wrong. So I

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Speaker 2: So there's that conversation which we can have, which I

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Speaker 2: have talked about on the show during training camp of

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Speaker 2: why ZAPPI was struggling in the Bill O'Brien offense, What

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Speaker 2: biggest thing And I went back and looked this up

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Speaker 2: last year with play action and without play action were

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Speaker 2: the guy that he is. Like his no non play

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Speaker 2: action dropbacks. He was at five point eight yards per attempt.

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Speaker 2: That's about what I would expect based off of what

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Speaker 2: we've seen this summer. His play action yards per attempt

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Speaker 1: It's like the best in the league, isn't it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like, what fifteen sixteen yards something like that.

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Speaker 2: Seen seventeen yards per attempt off play action.

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Speaker 1: And this is not a Bailey Zapp beat. Every quarterback's

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Speaker 1: better with play action. That's just true. Across the league.

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Speaker 1: He was exponentially better. But this is why, again you

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Speaker 1: go back to it. His play action rate, the percentage

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was twenty six to sixteen, so not double.

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Speaker 2: Ten percent on that sample is pretty.

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Speaker 1: The three numbers I remember looking up last year were

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Speaker 1: seventh blocker. They were all everything was struck. One of

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Speaker 1: back to the point where you that's why it looks

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Speaker 2: Correct when they put them both in the same system.

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Speaker 2: It was it came crystal clear pretty quickly in the summer.

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Speaker 1: That it became clear as soon as you sent that text, as.

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Speaker 2: Soon as I was ragging on Mac on like day

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Speaker 2: became very crystal clear that Zappie was not made to

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Speaker 2: the ducks in the row better pre snap, which I

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Speaker 2: think is a huge, huge part of this Bill O'Brien offense.

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Speaker 2: Everything you got to be able to set the protection.

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Speaker 1: So let me, let me ask you this, you started

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Speaker 1: cutting real quick. But like I've said this, and I'm

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Speaker 1: curious your thought on it because i don't know I've

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Speaker 1: ever said it on the show. Uh, the way the

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien offense works, Yeah, the result of the plays

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Speaker 2: I would say at least like like sixty five to

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Speaker 2: decides that determines the outcome. Okay, So yeah, so the

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Speaker 2: more than half you have to set the protection, right,

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Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing. YEA, you know, work with the

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Speaker 2: Are we you know? Is it an overfront? Is it

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Speaker 2: But the point is is that when you read that

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Speaker 2: defensive structure pre snap, you need to make a check

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Speaker 2: to the better play. Whether it's staying in the play

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Speaker 2: have to make the throw right. But then you have

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not just you have to. I would even

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Speaker 1: say there's another step in there. So yes, you have

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Speaker 1: to understand how to play it. Just once the ball

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Speaker 1: of the same, understand how the other players are going

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Speaker 1: to adapt, right, because you it can't be as simple

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Speaker 1: as you were. Right, there's an option route here, he's

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Speaker 1: because if you read it one way and you're thinking out,

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Speaker 1: if he reads it the other way and he's thinking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that happens. So you have all these

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Speaker 2: different elements that go into the the mental part of

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Speaker 2: the game for this Bill O'Brien offense, and I think

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Speaker 2: what became crystal clear is that Zappi really struggled with

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Speaker 2: those elements because he was holding the ball for an eternity,

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Speaker 2: plays and things like that, and his decision making completely

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Speaker 2: He started spraying the ball up.

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Speaker 1: Well, that one. I think he was trying to do

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Speaker 1: that like side arm stuff.

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Speaker 2: There, and I think, to be fair to him, like

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Speaker 2: the timing with the receivers you're working with like Thyrec

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Speaker 2: And then the blocking up front wasn't very good. Like

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Speaker 2: all these things played a role, But I think the

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Speaker 2: main thing is is that, like, yes, there were real

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Speaker 1: But I think it's it's not just tackles, it's offensive

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Speaker 1: Wait, I just think it's bigger than your your miss.

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Speaker 2: This all comes down to the fact that in the

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's both.

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Speaker 2: No, I think in March and then also in April

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Speaker 1: That was how Connor McDermott was the bright spot.

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Speaker 2: That's how bad tackle was. Right tackle specifically was for

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Speaker 1: Yeah it did.

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Speaker 2: Those two things just blow my mind that were even

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Speaker 1: I talked a lot about it, the whole Sodo thing, remember, right,

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Speaker 1: you cheaped out and you signed Calvin Anderson and Riley Reef,

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Speaker 2: Twelve starts in three years for Calvin Anderson. He was

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Speaker 1: Which, like signing those guys individually isn't necessarily a mistake,

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Speaker 1: but this is so it's it's only signing them and

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Speaker 2: See, this is where the depth thing becomes. Like, this

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Speaker 2: let's just put a placeholder in there. They tried to

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Speaker 2: telling me that Riley Reef is your swing tackle, fine,

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Speaker 2: that's about those guys should be. That's how you feel

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Speaker 2: They signed Reef and Anderson, they draft so now they're

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Speaker 2: trading for Tyrone Wheatley and Vaderian Low who I like

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Speaker 2: for any team. They're also lottery tickets. And all they

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Speaker 1: I even look early on day three, Evan, like Dwan

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Speaker 2: Was headed Dewan Jones. I need I need some Belichick

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Speaker 2: Macro truth serum on Dewan Jones. Why was Dewan Jones

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Speaker 1: To be fair, it wasn't just them, He was off

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Speaker 2: Boards But that's why I need to know.

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Speaker 1: So that's I do think there's something there, But whether

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Speaker 1: I was telling you about Dwan Jones in like October. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to it.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to it.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to it. So listen to me this time.

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Speaker 1: Latham, Alabama.

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Speaker 2: This is just like you had to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had to. Well, because it's it's week to get

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: There is reason. Whether it was Dwan Jones, whether it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had these guys that were tackled, that were

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Speaker 1: It's the mystery box. Well what could city so be

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Speaker 2: of drafted. When I say you, I mean the Patriots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake Andrews went one oh seven, Dwan Jones went

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Speaker 2: So you drafted a backup center to a team captain,

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Speaker 1: Oh, I get there.

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Speaker 2: and now Will. So those guys are starters. But Dewan

436
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Speaker 2: Jones is going to be a starter in Cleveland at

437
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Speaker 2: some day. He'd start here right now, easily, day one,

438
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 2: starting right tackle. I I can't figure that one out.

439
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: So don't don't sit there and tell me that they

440
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: had no other options. Don't tell me that they had

441
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: no other option, that there was nothing else that they

442
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 2: could do, because that's baloney. There was There was talent available,

443
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 2: whether it was in the draft or whether it was

444
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: in free agency. If they just spent a little bit

445
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: more money on the tackle position, and then we wouldn't

446
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 2: be in any of this mess. We wouldn't be worried

447
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: about the Eagles defensive front dominating the game in ten days,

448
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: and we wouldn't be worried about Bailey Zappi being on waivers.

449
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: Because if you had a proven.

450
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Speaker 1: Right tackle right now on your roster, or even just

451
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: a more high upside, high floor right the guy that

452
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Speaker 1: I can sit here and say I can start Week

453
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Speaker 1: one right pencil the min I'm gonna say that because

454
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Speaker 1: we're saying Dewan Jones be the answer. He's not proven,

455
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: but sure he's there's enough there that I don't need

456
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: to go.

457
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Speaker 2: I would have gone the free agency rode. I guess

458
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Speaker 2: that's why I keep saying proven. I means I would

459
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Speaker 2: have signed somebody.

460
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Speaker 1: I was Soto signed one draft one. I wanted both,

461
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Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about like Wan Soto for

462
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Speaker 1: no sign draft one s O d oh, I wanted

463
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Speaker 1: both of them.

464
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Speaker 2: Okay, So then you have your five starters right that

465
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: you're you're locked in on the roster. You have your

466
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: top swing tackle, you have your top interior guy, and

467
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: then you have one or two spots for development guy.

468
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Speaker 1: Eight or nine is general the number or something like that.

469
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Speaker 1: They are at eleven, which is a Belichick era high.

470
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Speaker 1: By the way, they've never carried eleven guys on the

471
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Speaker 1: initial roster, and meanwhile they're at a Belichick low. I

472
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's Belichick lo. I have the numbers

473
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Speaker 1: for the last ten years. Last ten years, fewest running

474
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Speaker 1: backs they've carried his three. They did that once every

475
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Speaker 1: other year. It's been four.

476
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Speaker 2: Right, so you have one quarterback, which I and I

477
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: get it. People are gonna sit here and say, Evan,

478
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: what difference does it make they're on the practice squad.

479
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 2: They can elevate them on game day, they can sign

480
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: them to the fifty three after they put some guys

481
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Speaker 2: on ir like who cares? And I get that, but

482
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: that's not the point. The point is that right tackle

483
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: is still a major question mark on this team. It

484
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: was a major question mark last year. It was a

485
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: major question market going into the offseason, and they did

486
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to solve the problem. And now we're here

487
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: where Bailey Zappi has to be waived. You have to

488
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: carry two running backs on the initial fifty three man roster.

489
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: You have to carry two tight ends, which I really

490
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Speaker 2: don't think they ultimately wanted to do, honestly, because I

491
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: think they're gonna play a lot of twelve and I

492
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: think they're gonna want some depth at that position. So

493
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: you have to do all these things, and all of

494
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: this could have been avoided if you had just given

495
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: Andre Dillard three million dollars more than what the Tennessee

496
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: Titans offered him, all of it could have been avoided.

497
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: And so the story today and yesterday in the shock

498
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: wave on Tuesday, on cutdown Day is that the Patriots

499
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: cut Bailey's appy, and that sticker shock is legit. But

500
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: the real crux of this whole thing is that their

501
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: offensive line is a complete mystery even to the people

502
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 2: running the team. And that's why they made two trades

503
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: for tackles fourteen days before the start of the season,

504
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 2: and that's why they're carrying a Belichick or a high

505
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: eleven offensive lineman on the roster. And that's why your

506
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: backup quarterback was just put on waivers the other day.

507
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah so, but at the same time, at the same time,

508
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: and Bill said this when you put it because because

509
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: he gets out, Oh, I din't put this player in

510
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: the prak squad. When you wave a player, you never know.

511
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: You may think you know, but you never know. Right,

512
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 1: they were okay potentially losing Bailey's appy. Doesn't mean they

513
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: wanted to lose him. Doesn't mean they wanted to get

514
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: rid of him. They clearly didn't. They brought him back. Right,

515
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: They were okay losing Bailey's appy.

516
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: And that's why I say that it's not about Bailey's

517
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: appy because quite frankly, no, but I was okay with

518
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: them losing.

519
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. But it is a little bit

520
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: because the theories about and maybe he's got put to

521
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 1: rest Thursday night, Friday night in Nashville, but the theories

522
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: about Mac being on a super short leash, and we

523
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: could see Bailey's appy by the end of September and

524
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: it might end up being his if they really felt

525
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: there was a chance Bailey Zappy was going to start

526
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: in meaningful games for them this year. They would not

527
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: have been comfortab. They shouldn't have been comfortable potentially losing him,

528
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: and they were comfortable potentially.

529
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: I guess my point when I say that, like, I

530
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: don't care about Bailey's Zappy, not to be like mean

531
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: about it, but is that I think that a.

532
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: Lot of them, you think it's a bigger deal. Why

533
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: why they had to wave him in the fastest way?

534
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: And I also think that bailey'sz appies are a dime

535
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: a dozen. I think that Colt McCoy, I think that

536
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: Will Greer. I think Brett freakin' Ripping probably could come

537
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: in here and back up Mac Jones just as well.

538
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 2: I don't know.

539
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: I that's look, that's what I think. I already gave

540
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: this giving other shows.

541
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: Who had have been a preseason Will Greener Bailey's Appy.

542
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't really know how I know real good last

543
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: game it wasn't okay, uh I Well, Nathan Rourke was

544
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: the guy I was looking for former Nathan. What is

545
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: Nathan Rourke notable for?

546
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: I don't know.

547
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Ask me, ask me what you're about to ask me.

548
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: What is the difference between Nathan Rourke and Bailey's appen.

549
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: Nathan Rourke has won the Canadian Football League Most Outstanding Player. Uh,

550
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: here's the yeah, he he tore it up for the

551
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: last year. Why do you not know these things because

552
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: you have a life? The difference the thing and here

553
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: people on both sides of the Zappi argument hate me

554
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: Evan because we've talked about this. Right, you either have

555
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: to think he's the starter who should push mac Jones,

556
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: or you have to think he doesn't belong in the league.

557
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: I am where I have been on Bailey Zappie since

558
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: day one. He's a good backup quarter He's probably somewhere

559
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: between the thirtieth and fortieth best quarterback in the league.

560
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: If he's your starter, it's not great. There's he's in

561
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: terms of going to an emergency starter, he'd probably beat

562
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: towards the top of that list. Yeah, but he's one

563
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: of the better backups and there is value in having

564
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: a good backup and being a good backup quarterback does matter,

565
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: and that is why I would rather they not have

566
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: cut him and burned a rookie contract on a guy

567
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: that is a good backup quarterback. So that's where But

568
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm also not under the illusion that he's going to

569
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: come in here and take over the team.

570
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: Fair enough, and that's the one thing that I will

571
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: say that makes it about Bailey zappy to me is

572
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: the rookie contract. I hate the idea that they just

573
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: ripped up his rookie contract because, on the one hand,

574
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: now they're a year to year with him, right, That's

575
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: just the nuts and bolts of it. He's a year

576
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: to year player whether he stays on the practice squad

577
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: or he signs back to the fifty three, unless they

578
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: give him a multi year deal when they sign, which

579
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: is possible. But bottom line is he's a year to

580
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: year guy now, and he was anyways because his money

581
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: wasn't guaranteed in year three and four. And I get

582
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: all that, but they had team control on the player

583
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: for year three and four. So now, and let's just

584
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: play this out. You mentioned him like, you know, spot

585
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: starting and things like that and being effective. Let's say,

586
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: and I hope this doesn't happen. We don't wish injuries,

587
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: so don't come at us about this. But what happens

588
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: if the exact same scenario happens that happened last year

589
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: where Mac gets hurt, and I'm not saying that Mac

590
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 2: is playing poorly. Like, let's take that out element out

591
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: of it.

592
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Now, Mack gets hurt, Mac cannot play. Mac gets hurt,

593
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: and Bailey's Appy comes in for two games, keeps the

594
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: team afloat, wins them a couple of games to keep

595
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: the train on the tracks of the season, Mac comes

596
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: back whatever. So basically what happened last year, exactly what

597
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: happened last year minus the Bears game.

598
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: Is Bailey's APPI going to get paid in the offseason? Well,

599
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: because he's a free agent now.

600
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: So this year he wouldn't because he's gonna be an ERFA.

601
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: If you have less than three years of team controller

602
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: what's called an exclusive rights free agent, which bass in

603
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: the RFA. Now he would be at the end of

604
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: the season. He don't leave two years, so he's not

605
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent. Oh, currently, when if his deal expires, right,

606
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: his practice squad deal aspires, they would have to sign

607
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: to a SUTs deal right in order to have him

608
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 1: under contract. Yes, right, But but if they didn't, he

609
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: would be an e r F A Okay.

610
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: So I didn't.

611
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So as long as he's on the practice squad.

612
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: He's a free agent if he's on the press. Let's

613
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: say some team loses their quarterback in Week one, Right,

614
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: they can go and he doesn't have to sign. Yeah,

615
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: but they could go off Bailey offered contract sign uh

616
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: because if he's going to sign and then get cut

617
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: when the quarterbacks come, there's a number of reasons he

618
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: might not. But like I mean, he's a free agent.

619
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: I would be looking for the first exit door. Fair.

620
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: He is a free agent as we sit here today.

621
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: Bailey's appy. A team could call and offer they can't

622
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: off from practice squad spot. They have to offer him

623
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: a fifty three man rocks spot. But they could do that.

624
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: That is true until if and when he signs to

625
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: the fifty three. Once he signs to the fifty three,

626
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: if that's a one year deal, at the end of

627
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: the year, he would become an eerf So if he

628
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: if he finishes the year on the fifty three, okay, crap,

629
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: if he finished on the practice squad, it would be

630
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: futures deal, which is a free agent. Right. Well, if

631
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 1: you can't sign a guy to a futures deal from

632
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: your fifty three, so he would become a free agent.

633
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: He would become what's called an E RFA exclusive rights

634
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: free agent, which means only the Patriots can negotiate with him.

635
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: For other teams to negotiate with him, the Patriots basically

636
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: have to give up rights. They essentially they have to

637
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: without putting them get I didn't realize that we're so

638
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: very bogged down in this cause this is what we

639
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: do BRFA. I didn't realize that he was going to

640
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: become an RF. E RFA is two years of experience

641
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: and less after three years, And this is where he'd

642
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: essentially be like an undrafted for agent because UDFA contracts

643
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: for three years, then he becomes an RFA. That's trick

644
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: gets really interesting if you get to this point, if

645
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: he's shown some promise, you never see our restricted free

646
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: agent quarterbacks. You never see that. If you drafted a quarterback,

647
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: if you don't think he's good enough, you've cut him

648
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: generally at that point, and then it becomes can you

649
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: tender him? Would a team give up a second round

650
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: pick for Bailey's appy problem that then not that long

651
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Speaker 1: ago a team get up a second round pick for

652
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, And how that got they're still paying for

653
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Speaker 1: They're still paying for you. What have they done?

654
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Speaker 2: He's better than him at the time.

655
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Speaker 1: At the time Jimmy Garoppolo was traded, he had started

656
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Speaker 1: two games, won them both played part of a third game. Yeah,

657
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: what what is Bailey Zappy done?

658
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: You've already thought this out.

659
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: I know I've given this takeabok.

660
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Speaker 2: This is your your sick o the point.

661
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Speaker 1: But whatever they're unless they it's not. I just think

662
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Speaker 1: he's overrated. Unless they signed Jimmy to a multi year deal.

663
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Speaker 1: When they signed him back to the fifty three, he

664
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Speaker 1: is now year to year. That is the reality of it.

665
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Speaker 2: So that's the Bailey Zappy offensive line take off the

666
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Speaker 2: top of the show. I just I want to continue

667
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Speaker 2: to hammer home the point that the biggest issue of

668
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Speaker 2: all of this is that the Patriots did not do

669
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Speaker 2: enough to address the tackle position in the off season.

670
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Speaker 1: And and now they're overcommentation.

671
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Speaker 2: Yes, and you have to remember that this was like

672
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Speaker 2: the injuries thing bugs me too, Like people are, oh, well,

673
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: Riley Reef got hurt, Like, what do you want them

674
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Speaker 2: to do? This was already going off the rails before

675
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Speaker 2: Riley Reef got hurt. Okay, Riley Reef was already moved

676
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: inside to guard. By the time Riley Reef got hurt,

677
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: they already had determined that Riley Reef couldn't play tackle anymore,

678
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: so he's already moved inside to guard Connor McDermott's mia.

679
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: He was also playing poorly going into that injury, so

680
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: they knew that this. We all knew this was a

681
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: problem already before anybody got hurt. So that's where the

682
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Speaker 2: Patriots are at. And now they have the Eagles, who

683
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: had the second rated pass rushing football last year in

684
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Speaker 2: terms of pressure rate. The Jets have had the seventh.

685
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Speaker 2: The Dolphins were not in the top twenty, but they

686
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Speaker 2: have a good bookend ed rushers. I think they're gonna

687
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Speaker 2: be better this year.

688
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Speaker 1: In the past game they were well, they didn't have

689
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Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb for the.

690
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Speaker 2: Start of the year, and then the number one rated

691
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Speaker 2: pass rushing football last year, the Dallas Cowboys. In your

692
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Speaker 2: first month, so you have one two and seven and

693
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Speaker 2: another team that I think is potentially going to be

694
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Speaker 2: in the top half of the league as well.

695
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Speaker 1: Are you holding out any hope that we get out

696
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Speaker 1: there Week one? Riley Reef of he's healthy at right guard,

697
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Speaker 1: Mike Wint right tackle or Antonio Maffi and Mike and

698
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Speaker 1: Winno on the right side.

699
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Speaker 2: There I'm holding out a little bit of hope. But

700
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Speaker 2: he did play a snap of right tackle. Why why

701
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Speaker 2: why make all of these this? Why jump through all

702
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Speaker 2: these hoops just to be moving Mike on went to

703
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Speaker 2: right tackle?

704
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Speaker 1: Because you're worried about the backups, because you know that

705
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Speaker 1: if you lose trend, you're right.

706
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Speaker 2: But if you worry about the backups, like can you

707
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Speaker 2: keep like two layers of depth? Like why do you

708
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Speaker 2: have to keep six?

709
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Speaker 1: Because because they're gonna do essentially what you said, they're

710
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Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. Like I don't Tyrone Wheatley daring Low.

711
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Speaker 1: I doubt both those guys are on the team for

712
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Speaker 1: seventeen games. They're essentially going to have a September's an

713
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Speaker 1: extension of the price.

714
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Speaker 2: So here's the other.

715
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a competition and one of those guys

716
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Speaker 1: will stick. Yeah, those moves make more sense when you

717
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Speaker 1: look at it through the lens that they brought those

718
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Speaker 1: guys into be backups rather than compete for the starting trick.

719
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Speaker 2: I agree, But at the same time, like this is

720
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Speaker 2: the other my ang on, this is it because I

721
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Speaker 2: wanted to work down the roster and then we're gonna

722
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Speaker 2: take some calls, I promise. But running back, they have

723
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Speaker 2: two running backs on the roster, Tome Montgomery and Kevin

724
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Speaker 2: Harris are on the practice squad. They traded Pierre.

725
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Speaker 1: Strong, who, Yeah, I didn't like that trade.

726
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Speaker 2: Maybe they were to cut him anyways, Like maybe that's

727
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Speaker 2: where that was heading. I know that's always the adage,

728
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Speaker 2: right of Oh they were, they just were gonna cut

729
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: him anyways. I didn't like the trade either. I did

730
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Speaker 2: not because I disliked Tyrone Wheatley. I think Tyrone Wheatley

731
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Speaker 2: has some really exciting trades. From an athletic standpoint, I

732
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: think he's an athletic kid. I think he's got good

733
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Speaker 2: foot speed. I think he can block in the run

734
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Speaker 2: game using his positional blocking with the foot speed. There's

735
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Speaker 2: things to like about his preseason film, absolutely, but I

736
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Speaker 2: didn't like it for two reasons. One, I really didn't

737
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Speaker 2: think Kevin Harris or J. J. Taylor were rosterable running backs,

738
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Speaker 2: so Pierre Strong was the one.

739
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Speaker 1: JJ. I thought you had a really good I didn't

740
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Speaker 1: have a kid there.

741
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Speaker 2: I think that ultimately, unless you're like Darren sprolls quick

742
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Speaker 2: and fast at that size, it's just.

743
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Speaker 1: Really tough, you see, fund right, that's.

744
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Speaker 2: A good unless you're one of those guys that's just

745
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Speaker 2: different in terms of how they move on the field

746
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Speaker 2: at five foot six, it's really hard. So I think

747
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Speaker 2: JJ Taylor is like is like the football equivalent of

748
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Speaker 2: a of a four A player. You know, he's right

749
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Speaker 2: in the middle. So Pierre Strong to me, felt like

750
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Speaker 2: the one guy that had the talent and the upside,

751
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Speaker 2: but that really the talent to be a rosterable running

752
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Speaker 2: back as your third running back. And the other reason

753
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Speaker 2: why I didn't really like the trade. Where's your speed

754
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: now out of the backfield? Now you can talk?

755
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Speaker 1: You hope it's time Montgomery.

756
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: Your other speed's on injured reserve right now, right with Taekwon,

757
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: and who knows what's gonna happen with that. And so

758
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: really you're looking at in terms of bringing guys that

759
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: move differently in this offense, that have that explosive gear.

760
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: It's essentially Pop Douglas and that's it. Like Kendrick Bourne

761
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: and I think does a little bit, but I don't

762
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Speaker 2: know if it's really truly on that elite level. It's

763
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Speaker 2: but it's it's good. You know, Kendrick Bourne is the

764
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Speaker 2: guy that's got good burst and good energy with the

765
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Speaker 2: football in his hands. But that's what I was hoping,

766
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Speaker 2: holding out hope with Pierre Strong. It's not that you

767
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Speaker 2: necessarily need him to carry the ball twenty times and

768
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: be this bell cow running back, but four or five

769
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Speaker 2: touches a game on a screen or on an outside

770
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Speaker 2: run or a toss player, just something to get him

771
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Speaker 2: out in space. He was the one guy that was

772
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Speaker 2: dangerous in space with the ball in his hands, and

773
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Speaker 2: I just feel like they lost it a little bit

774
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Speaker 2: in this trade.

775
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Speaker 1: We have some news.

776
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Speaker 2: Oh what's the news, Ian Rappaport.

777
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: The Patriots have claimed former Panthers quarterback Matt Corral.

778
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Speaker 2: So we have a new quarterback.

779
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Speaker 1: We have a new After all of that, we have

780
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Speaker 1: a new so let the plot that get oh wait

781
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: in eight weight. So they claimed him on waivers, so

782
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Speaker 1: that means he's on the fifty three. So that's your backup.

783
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Speaker 2: That's your backup quarterback, Matt Corral.

784
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Speaker 1: So that's the roster spot.

785
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Speaker 2: Uh by Taekwon Thorn probably what I go back you

786
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: said that I couldn't call it a downfall.

787
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: Of Bailey's appy. I'm calling it a downfall. You're gonna

788
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Speaker 1: now I not only better than Ma Correll.

789
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Speaker 2: You got cut and you got replaced like they're giving

790
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: Ma Correl a fifty three min roster spot over you.

791
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Speaker 2: That's what's happening here. That's shocking. I mac Correl's been

792
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Speaker 2: a disaster in the NFL. Now, granted he's been in Carolina,

793
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Speaker 2: right in Carolina.

794
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Speaker 1: Uh well no, he he broke his ankle in the

795
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Speaker 1: preseason game here last year and hasn't played the rookie

796
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Speaker 1: last year. That was it. Yeah, but he's I don't know,

797
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: he hasn't been anything in the end. He hasn't played

798
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but he played in the preseason this year. Yeah.

799
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that that's interesting. Well we'll give some

800
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Speaker 2: mac correl takes here in a second, but let's get

801
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Speaker 2: to the phones. John is in Louisiana. John, thanks for

802
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: hanging on. What's up? John? Hey? Hello, hello, Hey there

803
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 2: you are all right?

804
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Speaker 4: So uh Evan, first off, ausseems like you are thinking

805
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Speaker 4: that victory left one that Zabie seever.

806
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Speaker 2: Can't help it.

807
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, I already know. So I got a

808
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: question about the left tackle situation. So you said a

809
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: free agency would say, do you think that would have

810
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Speaker 4: affected the contract that Jabrill Severs and everybody else isn't

811
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Speaker 4: brought back?

812
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Speaker 3: Uh?

813
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't because I think that you can find

814
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: cap space in a million different ways. You can stagger

815
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: contracts in a million different ways. So I would I

816
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Speaker 2: have given like an Orlando Brown Mike McGlinchey contract to

817
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Speaker 2: a tackle and been able to afford all the rest

818
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Speaker 2: of it? Like, maybe not U, but I think that

819
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: there was options out there, like a Diller, like a Whiley,

820
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: like those players at that level that would have been

821
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: better than what you got and would have been able

822
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: to spread the money around just the same.

823
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Speaker 4: So in as far as the draft, who would you

824
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Speaker 4: have placed if you would have drafted somebody? I know

825
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 4: you said you like the first, but like I'm I'm

826
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Speaker 4: kind of confused. Who would you have rather not take?

827
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Speaker 2: PREDENTI someone at the Dwan Jones from Ohio State. I

828
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Speaker 2: would have taken Blake Freelan from BYU. I would have

829
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Speaker 2: taken Jalen Duncan, the Maryland guy, any of the Day

830
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Speaker 2: three picks, literally any of.

831
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Speaker 1: Them except Pop Douglas. Oh yeah, of course, except Pop Douglas.

832
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Speaker 1: Sure take the receiver for the early day three the

833
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: late day three picks. You're telling me that this team

834
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: needs Jake Andrews for what? Like, I'm not trying to

835
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Speaker 1: pick on Jake Andrews. I'm just if David Andrews gets hurt,

836
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: then you're in trouble anyways, right, regardless of who his

837
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Speaker 1: backup is. But is Jake Andrews at this stage of

838
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: his career significantly better than Russi or James Ferrence. I

839
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Speaker 1: don't think so, not based off what we've seen over

840
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: the summer. I would also say that I like Mafi.

841
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Speaker 1: I think Mafi is going to be a starting caliber

842
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: guard the way that they play football here, he'll be.

843
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: He'll be a starting caliber guy next year. But you

844
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: had a more immediate need at tackle, so that those

845
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: are the picks that I would have replaced him. I

846
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: think that's that's the obvious way to go.

847
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Speaker 4: Okay, appreciate you guys, Thanks.

848
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Speaker 2: John, Thanks for the call. All right, Patty is an

849
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Speaker 2: agua on what's up? Patty?

850
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Speaker 5: Tough guys? Hey, So I got something for each of you.

851
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 5: First off, the college football Minute, for actually half a minute.

852
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: I'll make it quick Evan Alex, Yeah, you're gonna watch.

853
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 5: I know you're watching college football this weekend. Of course,

854
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 5: pay attention Boston College wide receiver Joe Grifton junior from

855
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 5: my hometown, from my alma mart Or Springfield Central High School,

856
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: the home of Champion. This kid's going to be a stud.

857
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 5: He's not coming out this is coming year, but he's

858
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Speaker 5: eligible in twenty twenty five. He's like the perfect, the

859
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 5: prototype guy that's going to replace Davante Partner. Hopefully, I'd

860
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 5: love to see it, all right, So, Evan, the one

861
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 5: thing I'll disagree with you with was I was hoping

862
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Speaker 5: that they would like you. I know, you said you

863
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 5: want them to dry tackle and free agency. I'm with

864
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Speaker 5: you with those guys with Dwan Jones, and I was

865
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Speaker 5: big on Blake Freeland. I mean, I wanted them to

866
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 5: get young guys and develop them and into this system.

867
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 5: And I mean, both your tackles are going to be

868
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 5: gone next year unless they extend Brown. But that's kind

869
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 5: of a crap you because you never know what you're

870
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 5: gonna get with them, you know. So I'm just I

871
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 5: feel the frustration. I'm right there with you. Hopefully I

872
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 5: do have fate that Billy O'Brien and Clem are gonna

873
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 5: piece this together. I'm not gonna take too much out

874
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: of Week one. I never do anyway. But I mean,

875
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 5: as long as Mac comes out of the game healthy,

876
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 5: I'm good, and that's all I care about. And that's

877
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: all I got, guys.

878
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Patti, thanks for the call. Look, I don't

879
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: want to. I know I'm sounding like alarmists when it

880
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: comes to the offensive line Situationian, I think it's workable.

881
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: I just think that a lot of the things that

882
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: have happened this summer, and that it happened on cutdown day.

883
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of these things happened because

884
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: as they put themselves in this in a hole, like

885
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: they created a hole and now they're trying to get

886
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: themselves out of it, and now we have all this

887
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: cat you know, uh roster gymnastics and jockeying and all

888
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: this different stuff going on, and I feel like a

889
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: lot of this was so avoidable if they had just

890
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: addressed it with a real answer, like instead of throwing

891
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: blind darts at the board and saying, well, hopefully one

892
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: of these guys is serviceable, they could have just went

893
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: out and made a real move and solved the problem.

894
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: And that's where we're at. I'm gonn take this last call,

895
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: and then Alex you got to give your your mac

896
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: correl take. We've talked about mac corral a little bit

897
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: off the air.

898
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm learning about Matt Corrow right now. Do you know

899
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: he wants try to fight Wing Gretzky's son.

900
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Why is that relevant?

901
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Is it not?

902
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: All right? Let's take Tony in Canada. Let's up Tony.

903
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 6: Hey, hi guys. I have a comment, And then I question,

904
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 6: I guess the comment and is regarding regarding the Patriots

905
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 6: as I think that this year, my prediction is they'll

906
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 6: be struggling to make fourth place, they'll be out of

907
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 6: the playoffs. And I think this year, at best, they'll

908
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 6: do as well as he did last year or lose

909
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 6: a few other games. And the question is regarding Bill Belichick,

910
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 6: and I know, like, yeah, I mean, things didn't work

911
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 6: out with the tight end or not tight end, sorry,

912
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 6: the offensive tackle position. But Belichick really hasn't spent a

913
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 6: lot of money this year, so in your opinion, like

914
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 6: what is the what is Belichick trying to do? Like

915
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 6: he's obviously not signing players he didn't go crazy this

916
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: year like he did a few years back. What's the plan? Like,

917
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 6: what is he planning to do? What do you speculate

918
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 6: on is he planning on maybe possibly extending a lot

919
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 6: of the other players, or what's the reason? I guess

920
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 6: what do you think is the reason for it? For

921
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 6: the way he's he's been managing the team this so

922
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 6: far this year.

923
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Tony, I honestly know how you

924
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: feel about this, Alex, so just speak for myself.

925
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Well, second week in a row. Apparently they're trying to

926
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: get my attention on the sportshop right now because Felger

927
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: doesn't know how waiver claims were.

928
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Uh. I don't think Belichick's managing the

929
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: roster any differently than he always has. Like that's that's

930
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: the thing that I think that maybe doesn't get talked

931
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: about enough or gets missed or something like that. Like

932
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: other than the free agency spending spree in twenty twenty one,

933
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: this is how they've always done it, Like they have built.

934
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: Their whole thing is conservatives, spending solid, miiddle class, build

935
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: from within, draft and develop like that. That's that's their

936
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: whole thing. Like the twenty twenty one free agency class

937
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: was the outlier. That's not the norm. Now. Sometimes they

938
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: do go out and make like one splash, you know,

939
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: a Stefan Gilmour, a Darrell Revis Uh obviously didn't work out,

940
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: but like a daily as Thomas right, like they they've

941
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: done that in a vacuum. But going out and spending

942
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: a ton of money in free agency, like they did

943
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 2: it a couple of years ago. That was the one

944
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: time they did it, and other than that, they've never

945
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: done it again or done it in the past. So

946
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: their methodical approach is exactly how they've always done it,

947
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: and I there's obviously some legitimate reasons for it, Like

948
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: there's some real sound reasoning for it. I think the

949
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: biggest being that the real sweet spot is by drafting

950
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: players and being good in the draft and then developing

951
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: from within. That's how they built the teams in their

952
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: early two thousands for the most part. Like that's how

953
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: you build your roster for sustainability in the NFL. But

954
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, to the caller, like if you're expecting them

955
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: to go out and spend a ton of money on

956
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: free agents, like you got the wrong team, Like that's

957
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: not going to be who they are, at least not

958
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: as long as Belichick is here. If that's truly the

959
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: trigger man of all of this, Like that's never how

960
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: they've operated, that's never how they are. All right, Uh,

961
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: let's let's get your macarel take Alex because you obviously

962
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: remember him from Old it's a whole lot more than

963
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: I do.

964
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: So Matt Corral was a really interesting quarterback going into

965
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: the draft last year because his career has been a

966
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: roller coaster. Came out of Southern California in high school,

967
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: was a five star recruit US Army, All American, all

968
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: of that stuff, Like this is a guy who's usc UF.

969
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember if Alabama was interested in him. Ends

970
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: up going to Old Miss, where they had another top

971
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: ranked recruit in Jordan Tamu, who people might remember. I

972
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: think he was here on the practice squad for like

973
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: a week once. But really roller coaster his first few

974
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: years in college. Struggled to get playing time as a

975
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: freshman as a red shirt freshman, started to play a

976
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: little more, but was really a run first quarterback his

977
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: junior year, there were so lean Kiffin comes his junior

978
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty, and there's flashes, but he turned

979
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: the ball over a ton and then in twenty twenty

980
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: one he started to put it together. Thirty three hundred yards,

981
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns, five interceptions, ran for another six hundred and

982
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: fourteen yards eleven touch downs. He was a layane kick like, well,

983
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen wants his quarterback to be Matt Corral. And

984
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: then that was sort of a down year for quarterbacks

985
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: and people start talking about is Matt Carral first round pick?

986
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: And it was kind of trending that way. And then

987
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: he hurt his ankle in the bowl game. A lot

988
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: of people were like, he's not. It was kind of

989
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: consensus he wasn't gonna play in the ball game. This

990
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: is guy who's gonna be a first round pick. A

991
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: quarterback played in the ball game, which people like, this

992
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: is great. Look at that leadership, like he's definitely gonna

993
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: be a first round pick. Now. No, But that's the thing,

994
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like when those guys right.

995
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: At the fact that people like believe that.

996
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think teams look at that. Oh, you're willing

997
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: to play the ball game even though your first round pick.

998
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: You can't. You love football, you care about your team,

999
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: your teammates. Hurt his ankle, and it then struggled during

1000
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: the pre draft process, goes to Carolina. Last year, the

1001
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: Panthers actually traded up with the Patriots to get him.

1002
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: The Patriots used those picks later on Bailey Zappi and

1003
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: Marte Maphu. So that's that's a good trade. That's a

1004
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: very good trade. And then I remember he was so

1005
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: they saw him in joint practices and we know this,

1006
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots like the guys that they see in joint practices.

1007
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: I didn't think he's very good here last year that

1008
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: week and then early on in that preseason game he

1009
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: suffered I said ankle injury earlier as wrong was a

1010
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: Liz frank injury. That's his foot foot, and missed the

1011
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: whole season. So this summer I think he was kind

1012
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: of hit and miss. He was never gonna start, right,

1013
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: They have Bryce Young and he was always going to

1014
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: be the guy. But really athletic, he's not. He's a

1015
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: different kind of quarterback than what they've had. I'm trying

1016
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: to find his height weight. I know he's on the smaller,

1017
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: on the smaller side, moves around a lot, makes plays

1018
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: out of structure, Definitely a threat with his legs. He

1019
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: can be a reid option guy, but the accuracy is

1020
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: an issue. He does have a bit of a quick trigger.

1021
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: He doesn't handle pressure super well, so kind of an

1022
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: anti Mac Jones. I don't think the things he's good

1023
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: at are he's as good at as the like Mac Jones'

1024
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: best traits. But he's a he's a different kind of

1025
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: passer and it's gonna be interesting to see what the

1026
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: for him.

1027
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: So I what I remember of him is is mainly

1028
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: you telling me to watch Alabama ole Miss a couple

1029
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: of years ago when it looked like ole Miss was

1030
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: actually going to be able to go toe to toe

1031
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: with Alabama.

1032
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: So that that year, that was that twenty twenty one

1033
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: year where he had a year in Kiffin's offense. Yeah,

1034
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: he was like a heisman he was a Heisman candidate. Yeah, No,

1035
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: he was eismen get I'm trying to remember who. They

1036
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: had a really good receiver on that team too, I'm

1037
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: trying to remember who was.

1038
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: So the thing about ole Miss's offense that's that's important

1039
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: to mention is that they are they are a modern, modern,

1040
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: modern scheme under Lane Kiffin. They're an air raid team.

1041
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: Is Jonathan Mingos, Yeah, they do a bunch of crazy

1042
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: stuff offensively, like we're talking about motions options like a

1043
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: want to say it's as new age as you get.

1044
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: Read option, they like never punt right, like they're just

1045
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: like this aggressive pedal to the medal spread everything that

1046
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: you hear about, like you know, where's football going, and

1047
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: like new age football like Ole Miss does all of it.

1048
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: So in some respects, it was a little bit difficult

1049
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: when I did, like do a little bit of an

1050
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: EVL on some of those quarterbacks just thinking that maybe

1051
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: they would draft one. It was tyficult to project how

1052
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: Matt Corrale is going to play in an NFL system

1053
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 2: because Ole Miss is just very, very unique and weird.

1054
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: So that was a big part of it. But the

1055
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: one thing that I will say about Matt Corral and

1056
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: let me be clear that this is one hundred and

1057
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: ten competition for Bailey Zappy, not competition for Mac Jones,

1058
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: but with Matt Corral I think, and you you know,

1059
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: grieve me or not, Alex, I think that Mat Corel

1060
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 2: has more tools at his disposal than a guy like

1061
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 2: Bailey Zappy, Like I think he's a little bit bigger.

1062
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: I think he's got a bigger arm. I think he's

1063
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 2: a little bit more mobile, not necessarily, like a little

1064
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: bit like I think Billy Zappi's got decent elusiveness in

1065
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: the pocket and like he's pretty light on his feet

1066
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: in the pocket. But Coral can run, you know, with

1067
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: the football, like in designed run fashion. So what this

1068
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: looks like to me is that they have these two

1069
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and Mac and Zappi. And we talked about this,

1070
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: and I think this is why a lot of people

1071
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: latched to Malie Cunningham was because they don't really have

1072
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: like the toolsy, developmental upside guy, right, Like, they don't

1073
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: have that guy. And I don't know if mat Correll

1074
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: is ever going to be anything more than than a

1075
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: journeyman backup. I don't think so. But he does have

1076
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 2: a little bit more of that athleticism gene that everybody's

1077
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: clamoring for all. You know, the teams that don't have

1078
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: a Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen Mahomes type of player, that's

1079
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: what everybody wants. That's not ma Correl. Mac Correl is

1080
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: a I think a designed runner more than he is

1081
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: like a scrambler and a or a out of structure playmaker.

1082
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: But he's got some mobility, and he's got a bigger

1083
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: arm than Zappy, and he's got some of those tools

1084
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: that everybody is clamoring for. So in a lot of ways,

1085
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because I expected them to be

1086
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: looking for a more stable, experienced veteran option, like a

1087
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: Colt McCoy type of option, or you kind of know

1088
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get. Mac Correll is another is a

1089
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: ball of clay like mac Correll is a developmental player.

1090
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 2: He is I think, and again, you know, feel free

1091
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: to disagree with me. If they had to thrust somebody

1092
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: into a to a game, yeah, I think it's Bailey Zappy.

1093
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: I still don't think that you would put mac Corel

1094
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: in a game. I get, you know, picking out the

1095
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: fact that like he has to learn the system and

1096
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: like I'll get integrated and all that kind of stuff.

1097
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: I just mean in general, I don't really look at

1098
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: mac Correll as like a stable steady like Brian Hoyer. Backup, So,

1099
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: Matt Correll is, remember when we were going into the

1100
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: draft and every there was that take that a lot

1101
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: of people had that was like, oh, look at what

1102
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles did with Jalen Hurts. They had Carson Wentz,

1103
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: but they still took Jalen Hurts in the second round.

1104
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: Is like a project, right, and I met, we got

1105
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: blue in the face telling people that guy does not

1106
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: exist in this draft. That might be Matt Corrall. Matt

1107
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: Corrall might be the this guy's got a ton of tools.

1108
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: Let's see what we can turn him into.

1109
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 7: Guy.

1110
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not as good as challenging.

1111
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: He's not as good as Jalen Hurts.

1112
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: No, but he wasn't. Like he wasn't as good as

1113
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: Jailen Hurts in college, and he's not as good now.

1114
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: Like I'm no, he wasn't as good as Jalen Hurts.

1115
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: He wasn't as good as Oklahoma Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts

1116
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: at Alabama.

1117
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: Was limited as a passer.

1118
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: People forget what Lincoln Riley did for Jalen Hurts.

1119
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't hurt everybody, so that's true. I just

1120
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: it's interesting to me that this is the path that

1121
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 2: they took because I think a lot of the reporting

1122
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: out there, and I'm not like bashing on the reports

1123
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: or anything, but a lot of the reporting out there,

1124
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: and and my indication would be, let's go after a

1125
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: Colt McCoy. Let's go after like a backup that's like

1126
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: a steady presence that can come in and you know

1127
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: somebody that's like a little bit better than Trace mcsorly, right,

1128
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: like basically that kind of guy that is not this guy.

1129
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: Macarel is an athlete. Ma Correl is a developmental prospect,

1130
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: and uh, it'll be interesting to see what becomes of him.

1131
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that you're thinking much of

1132
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: it right now. The other thing that I would say

1133
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: about this that I find a little bit interesting. Now

1134
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: it costs nothing to claim a guy on waivers and

1135
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: then he gotta pay him.

1136
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: Right, so they Now it's funny for all this stuff

1137
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: we were talking about the rookie contract, they now have

1138
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: a quarter They now have a contract on quarterback on

1139
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: a rookie contract from the same draft is.

1140
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: For the purposes of facilitation, because that's what I do here.

1141
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes, Why not Trey Lance, Like why if youn't have

1142
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: to give up a draft pick?

1143
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: But if you were gonna do this, you didn't have

1144
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 2: to give up a draft pick. He but Trai Lance

1145
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: is just enough. Draftick trailiance is just better mac Correl.

1146
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: I also wonder if they thought Trey Lance was you wonder.

1147
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: I nothing in Matt Corrall, like, yeah, he hurt his

1148
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: foot last year. I don't think you look at him

1149
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: and you say, here's the guy whose growth has been hindered.

1150
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: I think in Trey Lance, you look at him as

1151
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: a guy and and you know, did the Niners ruin him? Basically?

1152
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: Is he passed? I also return.

1153
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: So the reason why I brought this up is because

1154
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: my real theory on it is that I think that

1155
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: they looked at Trey Lance and they said that guy

1156
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: could be looked at as a real competition for Mac Jones.

1157
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: And I do think that there's something to be said.

1158
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm not totally in on the conspiracy that Bailey z

1159
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: Appy was cut as a message to Mac Jones. Yeah,

1160
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think that, but I definitely think that

1161
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: they want to make sure that there is no question,

1162
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: there's no question who the starting quarterback of the team is,

1163
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: and if you bring in a guy like Trey Lance,

1164
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: it's gonna be He's gonna be there.

1165
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: I honestly my thought was, is this maybe Lane Kiffin

1166
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: and we know he's like indirectly in the Belichick with Saban.

1167
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: I wonder who knows what his relationship was with Bill

1168
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: O'Brien too. It might they might have a relationship as well.

1169
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: Well they I would think they wouldn't. The other thing

1170
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: about it is Corral. I don't know how much carry

1171
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: over there it'd be here. But remember Bill O'Brien didn't

1172
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: run his offense at Alabama.

1173
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: This was old.

1174
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: When he was brought in, Mac Jones taught him the

1175
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: lane or the Steve Starkesian but it so he ran

1176
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: a lot of his offense at Alabama, but then there

1177
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: was a lot of Alabama staples. But those Alabama staples

1178
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: came from mine Kiffn. I'm saying. So, I don't think, Matt.

1179
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots playbook, even though it's kind

1180
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: of three or four degrees removed. Oh yeah, I don't

1181
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: think the Patriots playbook is going to be totally foreign.

1182
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: Too, like the the RPO stuff, the empty stuff, like

1183
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: all that stuff.

1184
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure as president, but I don't even say. I

1185
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: bet even some of the terminology there's going to be

1186
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: carryover from what he was doing at or from what

1187
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: Corral was doing at Ole Miss with Alabama's former offensive coordinator.

1188
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so very interesting stuff. Matt Corrall on fifty

1189
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: three man roster claimed by the Patriots. So on the

1190
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster now Bailey Zappi is still on

1191
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: the practice squad. Malie Cunningham is still on the practice squad.

1192
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: Last thing on Macrrel because we kind of broke down

1193
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: Macarrel enough. I want to get to some of the

1194
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: other things about the initial roster. I want to go

1195
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: back to the what I just mentioned briefly. Week one,

1196
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: Philadelphia comes to town. Who's the backup quarterback? Because in

1197
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: mcare on the.

1198
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: Roster, I think, because you're not going to activate or

1199
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: you're not gonna elevate Bailey's Appy, why not and then

1200
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: use the third quarterback or your quarterback.

1201
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: Cratch mac Correl. He just would be Then why is

1202
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: why is mat Corral here developed to develop them? Clearly?

1203
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I think it's Zappy. I think they

1204
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: have too many other guys that need to elevate. They're

1205
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: gonna need to elevate a running back. They're probably gonna

1206
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: need to elevate a tight end.

1207
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't elevate the tight end.

1208
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: Mm I'd like maybe I just I think it's too.

1209
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: I think you can rule out we we thought it

1210
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: was kind of a lock that Bailey's Appy was going

1211
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: to end up back on the fifty three at some point. Yeah,

1212
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: I think that's out the window.

1213
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm honestly, this whole thing is really surprising

1214
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: to me. How I know, you don't want me to

1215
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: call it a downfall, but I'm calling it a downfall.

1216
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: I just think it's on.

1217
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 2: I'm so surprised that we've come this far though with it.

1218
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: I really am like to I take, like I said,

1219
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: you do, but to go aux, to go from what

1220
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: we saw on that Monday and I did against Chicago.

1221
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: But chanting, is it really take the media thing out

1222
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: of it if you're looking at it in the room, Like,

1223
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: here's a guy that played really well in two games

1224
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: against two of the worst defenses in the league and

1225
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: then struggled against the worst defense in the league and

1226
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: then had a bad summer. Take the whole Zappi fever

1227
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: thing out of it. Yeah, there, it was not that

1228
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: hot of a take to say you were worried about

1229
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: their backup quarterback situation. I don't know how much Matt

1230
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: Correll fixes. It doesn't to me Matt Correll is a

1231
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: ball of clubs. I think I think Bailey's Appy right

1232
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: now is a better quarterback. Me too, That's what I'm saying.

1233
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: So I had him, I had him ahead of Mat

1234
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: Corral in that draft. Zappi be the backup in a week.

1235
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: That's my point, on top of the fact that you

1236
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: have to get more integrated. All right, you might be right,

1237
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: you might be right, like I just think Bailey Zappi

1238
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: is the floor. Right Like Bailey Zappi is a floor backup.

1239
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: Matt Corral is a guy that has a little bit

1240
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: of a ceiling, totally different blairer than Bailey Zappi. Jonathan

1241
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: emailed in and I wanted to weigh in on the

1242
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: Zappi thing, and uh, you know he he plays out

1243
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: a compelling argument here about how much Zappi has regressed

1244
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: and how you know, we really should be you know,

1245
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: talking about that more. I think, without any tools to

1246
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: give guy a guy upside, you want a certain floor

1247
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: to be happy with that spot, meaning the backup quarterback.

1248
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: Last year he gave that, gave you that. This year,

1249
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: while a line player was a problem, he also took

1250
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: looks like he broke his mechanics, and he misses his

1251
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: easy throws without pressure weights too often. If you have

1252
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: both a low floor and a low ceiling, you have

1253
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: an issue. We've obviously seen. You can do worse watching

1254
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: Trace sorely shots fired. But Zappi's regression should hugely change

1255
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: their view on him. So this is what I wanted

1256
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: to address. Should do you? Is your view on Bailly

1257
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 2: Zappi hugely different than it was a year ago.

1258
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: M No, that's all the I said it. For a second.

1259
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: He's a good backup quarterback. Yeah, he's not a starter.

1260
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: He does belong in the league. He is a good

1261
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Matt corral may or may not be an

1262
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: NFL court He may be a starting NFL quarterback. He

1263
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: may be an XFL starting quarterback. Like, I don't know yet.

1264
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: I'll watch him in the XFL.

1265
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying, like, I have zero idea what

1266
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: Matt Corrall is an NFL pass. I didn't think he

1267
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: was great in joint practice last year. Yeah it was

1268
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: two days. I'm not gonna give my whole opinion based

1269
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: off that. Yeah, I didn't love him coming out of college.

1270
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: I thought, all right, this is a guy that's really athletic.

1271
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what else he does. We'll see how

1272
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: they coach him up. He's a lottery ticket.

1273
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel. My opinion on Billy Zappie

1274
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: has not changed. It all because of a couple things. One,

1275
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: I think we're both in agreement that we kind of

1276
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: thought this is who Bailey Zappi was all along, and

1277
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: he was propped up in the situation that he was

1278
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 2: in last year. Get as much as we destroy Matt

1279
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: Patricia on this show, and we enjoy doing it based

1280
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: off of what he put us through last year. You

1281
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: got to give him a little bit of credit, Like

1282
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: he made Bailey Zappi look look pretty good for two games, right, Like,

1283
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: give him a little bit of credit for that. I

1284
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: guess there's one thing that we can give him credit for.

1285
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: But my feeling on Zappy hasn't changed. I think that

1286
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: this is who he always has been. But I also

1287
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: think at the same time that if you put him

1288
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: with the starters right, starting offensive line, starting receivers, and

1289
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: then you watered down Bill O'Brien's offense to make it

1290
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: similar to what he ran last year, if you had

1291
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: to start him in a game like the scenario we

1292
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: laid out earlier where the exact same thing happens as

1293
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: last year. I think that they could put a game

1294
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: plan in for Bailey Zappi to be okay, just like

1295
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 2: he was last year. So that's why my opinion hasn't

1296
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: changed on him. I think he showed us this summer

1297
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: what we already knew to an extent, but he proved

1298
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: to us this summer that he is not a starting

1299
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: quarterback that's capable of opening up the birth of your playbook,

1300
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: right Like, he's not going to come in here and

1301
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: run all these different things and change all these different

1302
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: things at the line of scrimmage and make all these

1303
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: checks and these audibles and all. That's not going to

1304
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: be Bailey Zappi's game. But if you absolutely if you

1305
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: had to start Bailey Zappy in a game, and you

1306
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: go back to some of the stuff they did with

1307
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: him as a rookie and you water it down and

1308
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: you narrow it down to the things that he's good at,

1309
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: I think that he would still be serviceable as a backup.

1310
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: So I guess my opinion hasn't changed that much. I

1311
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: do agree with the email that his mechanics and like

1312
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: all the s side arm stuff. I think messed with

1313
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: it a lot. He missed a lot more short throws

1314
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: in the quick game than I remember him missing as

1315
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: a rookie. You know, slance, you know that type of

1316
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: stuff a lot more this summer than I remember him

1317
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: last year. But again, I don't think my opinion on

1318
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: him as Drassic change because I still think you could

1319
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: make him a competent spot starting backup if you absolutely

1320
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: had to. And I still feel that way. Yeah, And

1321
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: I think mac Corral is a totally different animal. I

1322
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: think that's that's a ball of clay that you're hoping

1323
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: it can develop long term into something.

1324
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1325
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's take this call from Eddie in California. Eddie,

1326
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: what's up?

1327
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1328
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 4: Guys?

1329
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 3: Hope you guys are doing good today. I kind of

1330
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: like the route that the Patriots are taking in these

1331
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: three development quarterbacks. Cunningham's at the end now Corral, and

1332
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: I think I do prefer that over veterans like Colt McCoy,

1333
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: because I feel like if we get a veteran like

1334
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: Colt McCoy, it won't it won't light up the offense.

1335
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: And I get that these developments won't light him up

1336
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: as well, but I think it'll just be more fun

1337
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: to watch. And I feel like we know that we

1338
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 3: probably don't have a playoff push, and so taking a

1339
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: veteran quarterback probably is just like I just feel it

1340
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: won't make the games enjoyable. What do you guys think

1341
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 3: about that?

1342
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Edi, Yeah, I understand your point. You know, there's

1343
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: a little bit of h and thanks for the call.

1344
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of the unknown, right, there's a

1345
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: little bit of the upside, and like maybe with corral

1346
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: to a little bit of mobility, Like just like Blie

1347
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: Cuttingham goes out there for one drive in a preseason

1348
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: game against Houston in the fourth quarter against a bunch

1349
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: of guys that just got cut, and everybody goes crazy

1350
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: because he can run around, right Like, So I guess

1351
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: there's there's sort of that element that makes it more exciting.

1352
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of calls, and I was really

1353
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: putting on doing this this last week or next week.

1354
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: Excuse me, but just quickly, am I a homer and

1355
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: am I a good team employee? Alex? If I say

1356
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: that I disagree with these people that are calling in

1357
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: that say the Patriots have no playoff chances.

1358
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: They have playoff chance. I mean they should contend for

1359
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: that that fun a wildcard spot. Yeah, I don't think

1360
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: it's a guarantee. I don't think it's a lock, but

1361
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: like they're not going to be out of it before December.

1362
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't right, I agree with you. I don't agree

1363
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: with the car say we don't really have a chance

1364
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs this year. I don't agree. Last year,

1365
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: this team was eight and nine, and granted we've talked

1366
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: about this, it was kind of a fake playoff race

1367
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: for them down the stretch last year. They weren't really

1368
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: in it. They needed a lot of help and they

1369
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: needed to beat Buffalo and have other teams completely fall apart.

1370
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: So I get they weren't really in it, but they

1371
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 2: were technically one win shy of the playoffs. Like if

1372
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: they had gone nine to eight instead of eight and nine,

1373
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 2: they would have had tiebreakers to keep them out of

1374
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So I think that they have playoff hopes.

1375
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: Do they have hopes to win a playoff game? Probably not?

1376
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: But do I think that they could make the playoffs? Yeah?

1377
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: Why not? Like I think you take an eight and

1378
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 2: nine team last year you give them a real offensive coordinator,

1379
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: you upgrade in a couple different spots. I think I

1380
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: don't think it's that crazy. Let's get to some of

1381
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: the other things about the roster before we wrap it

1382
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: up here. I don't think either one of us was

1383
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: surprised about two tight ends. I think that I talked

1384
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: myself into three at a couple points, but I don't

1385
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: think it was totally shocking to see them only roll

1386
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: with two. I am interested to see how they block it, right, Like,

1387
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: is Hunter Henry gonna be a better blocker this year

1388
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: than he was last year? Maybe, like with the coaching

1389
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: and the scheme and the angles and all that stuff improved,

1390
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 2: Like maybe he can be KAUZICKI I still view as

1391
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 2: a receiver. I don't think he's gonna block very much

1392
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: for you. Do they use like a guy like Tyrone

1393
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: Wheatley played tight end in college? Like, do they use

1394
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: him as like a sixth offensive I.

1395
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: Think you're gonna see a lot of six offensive one,

1396
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: especially early on. We talked about the past rushes. I

1397
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: think you see some of that.

1398
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: I think that's possible as well, So not a huge

1399
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: shock there. Their running back situation, we've talked about it

1400
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: a little bit. This one did surprise me because, yes,

1401
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: I know again similar to the Zappi thing. Yes, they

1402
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: have their running backs on the practice squad. Time Montgomery

1403
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: and Kevin Harris are on the practice squad. Remember when Belichick,

1404
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: there's two years that I feel like Belichick in Belichick

1405
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: so bad when it came to running back depth that

1406
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: I never thought we would go back there again. It

1407
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: was the Stephen Jackson year. What was that twenty fifteen

1408
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: I think it was fifteen, Yeah, where they had to

1409
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: place Stephen Jackson's corpse in like the last two games

1410
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: of the season because they didn't have any other running backs.

1411
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: And the other one ended up being something that they

1412
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: were kind of ahead of the curve on with Cordell

1413
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: Patterson and they actually they discovered he was a running

1414
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: back before anybody else did. And now he's a great

1415
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: running back in Atlanta, which is kind of ironic. But

1416
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 2: in eighteen, right, it was eighteen that they had to

1417
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 2: use Patterson at running back, and after that I just

1418
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: thought there was no way that they would they would

1419
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: leave themselves high and try it running back none And

1420
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: they're not totally high and dry because they have the

1421
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: guys on the practice squad. But I go back to

1422
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: the pier strong trade and I wonder, you know, is

1423
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: Time Montgomery really the change of pace back, if you

1424
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 2: want to call it that that this team needs, Like

1425
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: is he really capable of doing that? Is he going

1426
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: to be healthy? Is he going to be ready to

1427
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 2: go that? Those are the big question marks. But how

1428
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: surprised were you about two running backs? And like, where

1429
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: do you think they go from here?

1430
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: At this I thought j Taylor into roster spot. I

1431
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: understand them being hesitant giving Time Montgomery one because of

1432
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: his injury history, and I think the practice squad is

1433
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: perfect spot for him. But they yeah, it's it's well

1434
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: under what they usually do. I was, I was pretty

1435
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: surprised by that.

1436
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh me as well. All right, let's go over

1437
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 2: to the defensive side of the ball and then I'll

1438
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 2: we'll wrap with with your kickers, your your rookie kickers

1439
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: winning the jobs. I know that that makes you happy.

1440
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: Uh well, I guess really quickly. I'm sorry. I know

1441
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: I said we were gonna go defense. Was there any

1442
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,879
Speaker 2: question in your mind at the end that Pop Douglas

1443
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: and Kasehan Boody were both going to make the team now.

1444
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: After that, after the way I was a little on

1445
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: defense about kash On Booty going into the final preseason game,

1446
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: but once they they didn't give him a chance to

1447
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: earn a spot, which told me, yeah, he's got one right.

1448
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: Right, So you could have read that one of two ways. Obviously,

1449
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: you could have read it that they didn't want to

1450
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: put any more film out there and have them not

1451
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: sneak into the pie. I was with you, I.

1452
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: Don't believe in that the whole there trying to bury Hi.

1453
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: They're trying to hide him. You give players every chance.

1454
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: They can't turn a round.

1455
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: The only thing that I thought that maybe they hid

1456
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: was Malik at quarterback. They hit that a little bit.

1457
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: You can hide things schematically, Yeah, but I don't think

1458
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, we're gonna bench him and sneak

1459
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: him on another practice Like that doesn't right.

1460
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: I thought sense the second that Kaishan Boody took that

1461
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: slant forty two yards of the house at Lambeau, that's all.

1462
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: That's when I knew I wanted him on this That's

1463
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: when I knew I wanted him on the team. On

1464
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: the team, I didn't know if that was going to

1465
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,440
Speaker 1: be enough for them, but apparently.

1466
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: Yes, and they're like that.

1467
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: And then he had the good week when they came

1468
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: back when they were getting ready.

1469
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: For tennis sae. Yeah, and he was good in the

1470
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: practices in Green Bay too.

1471
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1472
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: So what I love about that that cat sit.

1473
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: He's a gamer, dude, I'm telling I wonder if he

1474
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of got the feeling that he was maybe on

1475
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: the fence and was just like, all right, let's show

1476
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 1: him what I can do. Let's open it.

1477
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love when people are like, all, like the

1478
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: safety took a terrible angle in Green Bay. Yeah, like

1479
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: it wasn't a good angle, but he also ran through

1480
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 2: the angle like you know, like he took the ball

1481
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 2: and he exploded after the.

1482
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: Safety took a bad angle because the margin for error

1483
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: was so minuscule because of the way. Yeah, that's what

1484
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: he does. I remember the comp for him before the draft,

1485
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: like if he maxes Max's maxes out, Oh no, it

1486
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: was not mine, Debo.

1487
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a big comp.

1488
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 1: But like that kind of player.

1489
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's I don't know if his

1490
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: breakaway speed is like quite as good as Debos, But

1491
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: what he's good at is he's it's weird with him

1492
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: because his his straight line speed doesn't show in his

1493
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: route running, like he doesn't run by people on like

1494
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 2: a go route or something like that, but he hits

1495
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: a different gear with the ball in his hand.

1496
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: It's more a you Also, for his size, you don't

1497
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: expect a guy to move that fast. And so you know,

1498
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: bigger receiver, you think you got to square up, tackle him,

1499
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: go low. The smaller, quicker receivers, you give yourself more room.

1500
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: You kind of can't with him, yeah, because if you

1501
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: square him up, he'll run over you. And if you

1502
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: hesitate to get to the point to give him more

1503
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: room to cut, he exactly what he saw against Green Bay.

1504
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: So it's just he's weird because like when you watch

1505
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 2: him on film, you're like he just has no juice,

1506
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 2: Like he's not running by anybody, and he's not really

1507
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: threatening on a vertical stem or Like there's just no

1508
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: juice to his route running.

1509
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: It's not dynamic like Pop Douglas runs dynamic routes like

1510
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: that guy right it was explodes off the line, gets

1511
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,759
Speaker 1: into the break like all that with with Kaishawn Booty,

1512
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: it's like he just he's like a different guy with

1513
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: the football in his hands.

1514
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: It's very weird. It's a little Kendrick Bournish like. I

1515
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: think that there's a little bit of an overlap there

1516
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 2: in terms of skill set, but it's it's a it's

1517
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: kind of a cool, uh study. Let's go over to defense.

1518
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: I was happy for Sam Roberts. I thought, I thought

1519
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: he played his butt off the entire preseason and made

1520
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: the team like he We talk, you know, you talk

1521
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: a lot about Alex like the at large roster spots. Yeah,

1522
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: he was competing for an at large roster spot and

1523
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: he took the dang thing like he he made the

1524
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 2: team like it wasn't like, oh, we need like six

1525
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: defensive linemen and to meet the threshold, we're gonna keep

1526
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 2: Sam Roberts. He forced his way on.

1527
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: He was too good. He was too good. Love seeing

1528
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: guys like that, and you know he's gonna be here too.

1529
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: He might play too, He might play a little bit.

1530
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure where, but the fact he can

1531
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: play pretty much any spot on the defensive line. Like

1532
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: last year, I did he he dressed only one or

1533
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: two games.

1534
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 2: He played like very spare, Yeah, but he did. He

1535
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: did play.

1536
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: He might play a little more this year.

1537
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, edge rushers your favorite. No, Ronnie Perkins back on

1538
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: the practice squad.

1539
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: Didn't surprise me.

1540
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's the one that you just like,

1541
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: can't really take the take the bait of the final

1542
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 2: preseason game beating up on like six string tackles.

1543
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: Well, it was more so my when I was doing

1544
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: my last roster projection, my last spot was Sam Roberts

1545
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins. That's what it came down to. And like

1546
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: Sam Roberts was good in Green Bay, he was good

1547
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: in the Green Bay game. Ronnie Perkins was hurt for

1548
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: most of that and then just came back and had

1549
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: a last good preseason game. So it was one game

1550
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: versus two weeks. And maybe if he wasn't hurt that

1551
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: down that stretch, he makes a stronger case. But yeah,

1552
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: just off one game, it's it's tough to give it

1553
01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: to him.

1554
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: Where As Mac Wilson made the team.

1555
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: Yes, and no, I no, no, I wasn't.

1556
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: I was surprised.

1557
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: I was like, what's his role like a special special

1558
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: teams Okay, Marte Mophu's backup?

1559
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: Do you really need like Marta Mapu as a rookie

1560
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: might already be a situational backup, Like, do you really

1561
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 2: need a backup to the backup?

1562
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: I think they're playing have bigger plans for map that.

1563
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: I hope so, but I'm not convinced of it.

1564
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: Leadership, he's been here that kind of thing. I think

1565
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: he just made it on intangibles.

1566
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: All right.

1567
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: I just I I wouldn't have It's one of those

1568
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: ones like I wouldn't necessarily have put him on. But

1569
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: I understand based on the way they operate, why he

1570
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: made the team.

1571
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: I feel like, and maybe this is just my bias

1572
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: coming in. First of all, his run defense film last year,

1573
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: in his run defense film in the preseason, is not playing.

1574
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: He's only gonna play on third downs.

1575
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: He can't play in the run game.

1576
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: He's only gonna play on the third down.

1577
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 2: The second thing I would say is that I get

1578
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 2: I do. I get a little bit frustrated when they

1579
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: keep guys like this, where you have these younger players

1580
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: like a Mapou that are better than Mac Wilson. And

1581
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: sometimes I fear that he'll play the veteran guy, right

1582
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: like I fear that Bill will play the veterans.

1583
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's all valid, but I'm just saying like, that's

1584
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: the kind of guy they keep for exactly what you

1585
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: just said. I I just that's why they want him

1586
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 1: as a fallback.

1587
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with mac Wilson. If he's listening to

1588
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 2: ob he doesn't take this personally. I almost like it

1589
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: when they cut those types of guys so that Bill

1590
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: doesn't have the option to play the veteran over the

1591
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: young guy. That's just where I stand with with Mack

1592
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: Wilson corners, no big surprises at the top, right like

1593
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: Christian DAWs, John Jones, Marcus Jones, Jack Jones.

1594
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: Are we like out of the woods at this point

1595
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: that Jack Jones like he's gonna uh no, no he.

1596
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 2: Has is I think the next hearing is in between

1597
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: week one and two.

1598
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: No, but like at this point he's gonna be on

1599
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 1: the field week one. Yeah, okay, so unless the league

1600
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: steps But I'm saying like they usually step in by now. Yeah,

1601
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: probably that's what Okay, Yeah, but usually the league also

1602
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: lets like the legal stuff right carry through before they

1603
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: really get involved. One quick thing on Miles Bryant, take

1604
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,879
Speaker 1: your your little your little tweets out of my replies

1605
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: on Miles Bryant is on the roster, all right, Like

1606
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: I understand that Patriots fans have frustrations with Miles Bryant.

1607
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 2: I get it. We all have the same frustrations. You

1608
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: know how many people, Alex, you get their applies to,

1609
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: like the initial why is Miles Bryan on this team?

1610
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: Like why why can't we move on from Miles Bryant.

1611
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: Miles Bryant is not a man cover corner. He's not

1612
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: a man to man guy. He's too slow and he's

1613
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: not capable of keeping up with starting caliber NFL receivers

1614
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 2: in man to man. We know that. But they have

1615
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 2: really really big shoes to fill. And I'm writing about

1616
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: this for Monday, so you can check that out. They

1617
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 2: have really really big shoes to fill. With Devin mccordy,

1618
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: they're gonna be a little bit more too high. I

1619
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: think they're gonna still play some zone like they those

1620
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: are the roles that Miles Bryant's gonna be competing for.

1621
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: I think, I hope I would assume that he's gonna

1622
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: be out of Week one or week two against Miami,

1623
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 2: Like you know, Miles Bryant, you got Jalen Waddle, Like,

1624
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't think we're doing that anymore. But at the

1625
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: same time, I he's somebody that is really heady and

1626
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: zone coverage. He's a sound tackler, he's got good instincts.

1627
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 2: He's a good zone player, zone player, and a smart, savvy,

1628
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: veteran type of guy. I have no problem with Miles

1629
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 2: Bryant being on the team, and I think we need

1630
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: to stop picking so much on Miles Bryant. That that's

1631
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,839
Speaker 2: my soapbox moment with Miles Bryant.

1632
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: Miles Bryant. It like Miles Bryant is not as bad

1633
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: as he's looked because they haven't used him correctly. If

1634
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: they're not a corner, if he's not if they're gonna

1635
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: use Miles Bryant correctly, I actually think it makes a

1636
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 1: lot of sense to keep him for a lot of

1637
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: the reasons you just said. If they're gonna have him

1638
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: try to man up on an island the other team's

1639
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: fastest wide receiver, yeah, it's not gonna go well, right,

1640
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: Isaam right exactly, So I don't mind them keeping him.

1641
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: I think he's a very smart football player. I think

1642
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: he's a very physical football player, especially for his size,

1643
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: and there's value in having that. He'll play on special

1644
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: teams He's a good guy to have on the back

1645
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: end who can come forward and make him play. But

1646
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: you now have the whole thing's built out of slot

1647
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: corners pretty much. John Jones, Marcus Jones, Sean Wade. There's

1648
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: no reason Miles Briant should have to play slot corner

1649
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: reps this year. As long as they keep him out

1650
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: of that role. I'm fine with him making the team

1651
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: because I do think that he does bring an element

1652
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,839
Speaker 1: of toughness and football IQ to the secondary.

1653
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: Let's lay off Myles Brian. That's all I'm saying.

1654
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: I just just just understand what you're watching.

1655
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: Also, you mentioned Sean Wade, Yeah, made the team, and

1656
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 2: I am I allowed to be like, I don't want

1657
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: to use the word excited, because I'm not. You know,

1658
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be like a fifth defensive back and

1659
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 2: he he he might even be in active honestly for

1660
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: game day. But I'm like a little bit intrigued. Is

1661
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: that the right word? Maybe by Sean Wade. And the

1662
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: main reason is We've talked about so many times with

1663
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: Sean Wade that his big season at Ohio State was

1664
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: playing slot cornerback. It was not playing on the boundary seasons. Yeah,

1665
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,440
Speaker 2: his big The reason why he was on the NFL's

1666
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: map was because of how good he played in the

1667
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: nickel role in Ohio State, its slot corner role. The

1668
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 2: Patriots have moved him back there this year. They've played

1669
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: him there in a little bit at free safety, and

1670
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: I thought he had a really good summer. And I

1671
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: think between that, the fact that he's really a natural

1672
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 2: slot and not an outside corner, and the fact that

1673
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 2: he actually brings some size to the slot as well.

1674
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 2: Because as much as they're gonna play Miami twice a

1675
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: year and they're gonna have to go up against Waddle

1676
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 2: and Hill, and they're gonna have to go up against

1677
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 2: speed slots every week, they're also going to potentially see

1678
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 2: some slots that are bigger, you know, like a guy

1679
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 2: like a Garrett Wilson for example. And I know you

1680
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 2: probably don't want to put Sean Wade on Garrett Wilson,

1681
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: but I'm just using him as an example. They are

1682
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: going to play some bigger slots too, and they needed

1683
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: somebody with some size one two hundred pounds. He brings

1684
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: that element to it. I think he can play safety

1685
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 2: and he can play corner. I'm a little bit intrigued

1686
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 2: by Sean Wade. I thought he had a good summer,

1687
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 2: and I think that he's just at home playing out

1688
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 2: of the slot.

1689
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: So this is another one like Matt Corral. They love

1690
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: signing these guys that were like elite high school talents,

1691
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: yeah that didn't pan out, and seeing if they can

1692
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 1: tap into that. How impressive was Shawn Wade in high

1693
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,759
Speaker 1: school eleven he won the Game USA D National Football

1694
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: Player of the Year for defense. He was named of

1695
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: all the defensive players in high school football nationally in

1696
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. The best other guys who have won that

1697
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: Caveon Thibodeaux first round pick Kooyd McKinstry gonna be a

1698
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: first round pick. Solomon tulia Pupu is an edge rusher

1699
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: for USC. I don't know if you're familiar with him.

1700
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: It's the Trojans, are you actually no?

1701
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: I think does he have a brother, Tully?

1702
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: I think that is him. I think he goes by

1703
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: TULLI yeah, oh yeah, he just got drafted. Oh no, no, no,

1704
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: so it is his brother, Yeah, sorry, no, because he's

1705
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: still there. It's gonna be his.

1706
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: Last His older brothers in the NFL, his older brothers.

1707
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: In the NFL. Jabrill Pepper's won this, Jadavian Clowney won this,

1708
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence on offense, Kyler Murray, Leonard Fron,

1709
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: Like you talk about the guys that Sean Wade's in

1710
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: company with. He went to Ohio State, was a really

1711
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: good slock owner, really good slock owner. For two years.

1712
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: People thought he was gonna be a first round pick.

1713
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: And then in that twenty twenty season, and remember we

1714
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: loved him going into that drifts, You're like, here's value.

1715
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: This is a guy's a first round pick fell to

1716
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: the fifth round. Why they played him on the boundary

1717
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: and he just couldn't do it. And I think it

1718
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: messed him up. Because he's talked about his confidence level.

1719
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: It seems like he's gotten back in that groove. He's

1720
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 1: playing back in the slot where he's comfortable, he's confident,

1721
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: he's making plays there. There is a ton of natural

1722
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: talent when it comes to Sean Wade to tap into.

1723
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: I intrigued.

1724
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: I really think the last couple of years was all mental. Yeah,

1725
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: And if they have him back on the right track,

1726
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy who can be a top

1727
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: three corner. You're talking about a guy who was the

1728
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: potential to be we'll see if he gets there, potential

1729
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 1: to be a starting slot corner.

1730
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: So I think we saw some of those flashes in camp. Yeah,

1731
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean he had that pick on the goal line

1732
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: and it would have been a pick six in a

1733
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 2: game that showed some really, really heavy instincts. He sniffed

1734
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: the screen out, jumped the pass, and ran it back

1735
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: the other way. I talked to him briefly in the

1736
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: locker room on Wednesday after they cut downs and officially

1737
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 2: made the team, and when I asked him about playing

1738
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 2: back at home in the slot, I think, is how

1739
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: I freez like you could. The relief on his face

1740
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, like this is where I belong,

1741
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: this is.

1742
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: Who I am. And I again, I think the theme

1743
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: of this show. He's kind of been taking flyers on

1744
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 1: players in those Ball of Clay players. If there's a

1745
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: guy you're gonna bring in and you're not really sure

1746
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: where you're gonna use him, but you want to give

1747
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: him a roster spot because of potential, this is the

1748
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: kind of guy you do that with. This is absolutely

1749
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: the kind of guy you do that with. Okay, So

1750
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: speaking of so shout out and again that he came

1751
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: back and made the team after two rough years, like

1752
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: super happy.

1753
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of balls of clay and making the team.

1754
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 2: And I I gotta admit I didn't see a mere

1755
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 2: speed making the team. And I guess I probably should

1756
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 2: have seen a little bit more once Isaiah Bolden's injury

1757
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: happened and that kind of opened the path for him.

1758
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: They Belichick what like a week ago, two weeks ago,

1759
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: called him a developmental player.

1760
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: I think So here's the thing. I don't think they

1761
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: think he's a corner. I think they see him as

1762
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: a Matthews Slater type, as a pure special teamer. Well,

1763
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 1: then in that context, it makes a lot of sense.

1764
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 2: So if they well they they basically listed him I

1765
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: think on one of our graphics as a stage.

1766
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: So I was going to bring that up. I wasn't sure. Yeah,

1767
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: the graphic you guys did, which looked really cool. Shout

1768
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: out to the graphics team. YEA, yeah, No, I liked it.

1769
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 2: I liked it.

1770
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: It was a cool graphics. All the offensive players had

1771
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: read behind them, all the defensive players they blew behind him.

1772
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: It was like all the head shots and then the

1773
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: special teamers. So Nick Fole not nick Fole, Chad I

1774
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: got I'm just defaulting to that. Chad Ryland, Bryce Baringer,

1775
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: Joe Cardo, and Matthew Slater had white behind them, So

1776
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: did Chris Board would you kind of expect and a

1777
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: mere speed?

1778
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1779
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: So I maybe that telegrams. I know the graphics people

1780
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: are making them football decisions. But did they get like

1781
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: a list and he was listed as a specialist.

1782
01:22:59,160 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: I think I think they did.

1783
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: So. Yeah, I don't think he's ready to play corner

1784
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Maybe in a year or two he

1785
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: could get there. I thought Isaiah Bolden showed me much

1786
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: more in that regard. But spend a lot of time

1787
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: with Matthew Slater, spent a lot of time with cam

1788
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: Ac Cord. Bill Belichick, you know, was complimenting him and

1789
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: the way he plays in the kicking game. So did

1790
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: Matthew Slater. In that context, it makes a lot of sense.

1791
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: We were kind of talking about, Oh they're keeping less.

1792
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: This is specialist.

1793
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 2: Brendon Schooler I think is technically like a safety or

1794
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: a dB.

1795
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: I think Brendan Schooler was he might have had white

1796
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: behind him.

1797
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: That he is now you know, we know he's a

1798
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:29,839
Speaker 2: special team.

1799
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: Right it's a Brendan schooler. But Brendan schooler we knew

1800
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: from the beginning.

1801
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: Shout out to Dylan and Karina for the great.

1802
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: Because he made it. Brendan's schooler who had white behind him,

1803
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: Bryce Barrier, Chris Bord, Joe Cardona, Chad Ryland. Yes, Brendan

1804
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: Schooler did, Matthew Slater and a mere Speed. So that's

1805
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: and that's the full group.

1806
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 2: So they're special teamers.

1807
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: Those are the special teamers. So I if they're going

1808
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: to play a mere Speed at corner, I'd be spriced.

1809
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh I would be too. I mean, I think

1810
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: that's a long way. I think essentially six guys that

1811
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: can play corner that are actual corners. All right, we're

1812
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 2: going to clear the floor. Your your rookie specialist, Your

1813
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 2: your Patriots punter and kicker for the twenty twenty three season.

1814
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 2: Chad Ryland, Bryce Berenger, the young kid, the kids. The

1815
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: kids won the jobs.

1816
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: The kids are all Alex.

1817
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 2: How close was it really for either of them?

1818
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: I think it got a little close with Barringer when

1819
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: he had that rough week in Green Bay, if that

1820
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: makes sense. This is what it always should have been.

1821
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to hear it. The only

1822
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: question of Kicker was whether they were going to keep

1823
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: both of them or not. And I honestly believe Evan

1824
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: that that was a consideration.

1825
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to push back on you on it

1826
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 2: anymore because they didn't do it, so we don't have to.

1827
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: But I do think it was something they thought about.

1828
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: I think, I'll give you this. I think that it

1829
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: was something that they thought about. But I think the

1830
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: only reason why they seriously might have considered it was

1831
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 2: because for leverage for a trade like I think that

1832
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 2: they might have looked at it like.

1833
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: Made the trade later. I kind of wondered that as well, like.

1834
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: They might have looked at it and said, you don't

1835
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: want to give us what we want in the trade

1836
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: for Nick Folk, well just keep him right, like that

1837
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 2: sort of thing, and then eventually in season like Tennessee

1838
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 2: comes calling and they're desperate and they and they make

1839
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 2: the trade happen. I I was a little bit. So

1840
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: were you surprised that all they got was a twenty

1841
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: twenty five seventh? I was a little bit.

1842
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: I wonder you talked a lot about the reason that

1843
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: they were letting Nick Folk rep as much as they did,

1844
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: was a respect thing. Yeah, right. I wonder if Bill

1845
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: Belichick went to Nick folk and said, where do you

1846
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: want to go? Yeah, and that.

1847
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 2: Well, I've talked in Tennessee, I think earlier today. Yeah,

1848
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: And he has said that the Patriots initially said that

1849
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 2: they were waiving him or cutting. He wasn't going to

1850
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: go on waivers, so cutting him. But I don't know

1851
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: if it was the Patriots that came to him then

1852
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: and said, but Tennessee is showing interest. And I think

1853
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 2: that they asked Nick Folky like, would you rather be

1854
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,879
Speaker 2: a free agent or would you rather go to Tennessee?

1855
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 2: Like what? He you know, what do you and he

1856
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 2: said that he I think Frable actually called and recruited

1857
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 2: him to Tennessee and he he said, let's make the trade.

1858
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: All right. So I wonder if there was an element

1859
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: of that yeah in there. As for this so little

1860
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, I'll have my bold predictions up next week.

1861
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: My bold predictions for the Patriots season up on ninety

1862
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: eight five of the sports sub dot com. One of them

1863
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 1: is going to be chat ed Ryland and Bryce Bearinger

1864
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: both play seventeen games. I hope so well, I'll tell

1865
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: you why that's a bold prediction, Evan, I don't think

1866
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: it's bold, but the numbers tell us it's bold.

1867
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1868
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 1: The last team to have two rookie kickers start Week one, Yeah,

1869
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: was the twenty eleven, twenty fifteen you've already heard me

1870
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: do this, Miami Dolphins.

1871
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 2: I stole it from you.

1872
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: The last Oh did you use this?

1873
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

1874
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 1: Of course, well, I stole it from PFR. The last

1875
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: team to have two rookie kickers play rookie kicker and

1876
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: punter play at least ten games both was actually more recent.

1877
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 1: It was it twenty eighteen than Oakland Raiders because Daniel Carlson,

1878
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: people forget started the season Minnesota. Yeah, the last team

1879
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: to have two a rookie kicker and rookie punter both

1880
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: play a full season. It Actually, it's never surprised. It's

1881
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: never happened in the seventeen game season. You have to

1882
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,799
Speaker 1: go back to twenty eleven. Alex Henry and Chris Henry

1883
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: not related, they're spelt differently for the Philadelphia Eagles, So

1884
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: this is pretty unprecedented. You don't see this so in

1885
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: that sense, Well, I.

1886
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: Mean, I do think it's a little team that draft

1887
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 2: a punter and kicker in the same draft in like

1888
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: one hundred years or something like that.

1889
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: No, because the Raiders did that like three times under Altavis.

1890
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: No, they were the first time team in a while

1891
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: to do that, though, I.

1892
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: Think it's been done more recently than twenty eleven.

1893
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Though. Oh, they drafted a punter and a kicker in

1894
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: the same draft. Yeah, that was like going around, was it?

1895
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: Either way? It hasn't happened since twenty sixteen that two

1896
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 1: guys have played a full season. So I'll be interesting because.

1897
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: It's our job to be uh, you know, to poke

1898
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 2: holes and everything. Right, that's that's just the gig.

1899
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 7: Yeap.

1900
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: What is your biggest fear?

1901
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: Oh, sorry, no, it's not twenty eleven. It's twenty twelve. Oh,

1902
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: it's twenty twelve, twenty twelve, and it's actually so this

1903
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 1: is a good omen. It was the twenty twelve Saint

1904
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: Louis Rams, Greg Zerline and Johnny Hecker, which if these

1905
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: guys turn into Greg Zerline and Johnny Hecker, pretty good,

1906
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good draft.

1907
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: Get Bill Belichi'm sorry.

1908
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: Both of those guys are drafted. Okay, Oh no, Johnny

1909
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: Hecker was undrafted, So build and take.

1910
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: Him sing, What is your biggest concern, not not about

1911
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: the roster decision, Yeah, just their biggest concern about Chad

1912
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:35,719
Speaker 2: Ryland and Bryce Behnger individually their performance this season.

1913
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: Uh, like looking ahead or my biggest concern from what

1914
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: I saw in the summer. But yes, so it kind

1915
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: of almost goes to what you talked about with Mac Wilson. Yeah,

1916
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: there's gonna be growing warts with Chad round there are,

1917
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: and I think he's an NFL caliber kicker, but there's

1918
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 1: gonna be growing pains. And I hope that they don't

1919
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: panic it. They like part of having a rookie kickers

1920
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: that you're just that's what you're signing up for. Yeah,

1921
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: and I hope that they know that's what they've signed

1922
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: up for. So I when that comes one, how's he

1923
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: going to handle it? And how's the team gonna handle it?

1924
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 7: Uh?

1925
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: My biggest concern with Baringer, I thought it was pretty good.

1926
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't know he he It's not even a weather

1927
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 1: thing because he's been in in Michigan.

1928
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 2: I think Bearinger is like a classic. He's a classic

1929
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: long ball hitter. Though, like he's gonna have some shanks.

1930
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: We saw some shanks and so in the three.

1931
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: But I would also say this. I I was gonna say,

1932
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: my biggest concern every punter is shanks. My biggest concern

1933
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: is touchbacks. Yeah, I think they're gonna be more aggressive

1934
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: going for it un fourth down over the fifty. That's

1935
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: a Bill O'Brien specialty.

1936
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: No, I've been I've been hoping and dreaming of that

1937
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen. Hasn't happened.

1938
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: They did a little bit nick fall early on. Yeah,

1939
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, they were kind of aggressive. Yeah, no,

1940
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: I yeah, there's gonna be a shank. There's gonna be

1941
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: shanks with Bearinger, but I don't think it's gonna I

1942
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna shank the ball more than the

1943
01:29:58,520 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: average punt.

1944
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: I actually agree with the you know the shank stuff. Yeah,

1945
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 2: you're probably right, will be pretty look much.

1946
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: He's not gonna perfectly hit every pun he's gonna kick

1947
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: this season.

1948
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, touchbacks, I would say, is a big one. And

1949
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 2: like and in the same vein as like I'm kicking

1950
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: your coverage is a thing like I did it like

1951
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 2: in life, but like it's a thing to do it

1952
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: like in general. Right. Ah, that was good? Can we

1953
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 2: click that and said that home. Uh, it's good to. Uh,

1954
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: it's good to you can really out kick your coverage,

1955
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 2: Like that's a thing that can happen. And I we

1956
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: saw it a little bit in Tennessee, like you bomb

1957
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 2: one seventy yards and it's like, you know, Matthew Slayer

1958
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 2: has got a long way to go to cover that.

1959
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 1: Look, they kept one of their fastest players in a

1960
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: mere Speed. Maybe those two things are related. The need

1961
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 1: for speed is so, I would say. So. The thing

1962
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,919
Speaker 1: is he kicks it far, but he doesn't kick line drives.

1963
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 2: No, he gets it. He gets it up there.

1964
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: He really does. And this goes back to my thing, Evan,

1965
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: what's the proper application of the forty yard dash? Do

1966
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 1: you know this at this point? So the reason they

1967
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,759
Speaker 1: were on the forty yard dash when they started the combine,

1968
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: it was very simply the average punt at the time

1969
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 1: was forty yards and it was can you get down

1970
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: the field in time? Teams would compare the forty yard

1971
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: dash to their punter's average hanngtime, and it was can

1972
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: you get down the field in time to cover a punt?

1973
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: A mere Speed's forty four point three four seconds. He'd

1974
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: throw half a second on they're getting jammed at the

1975
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: line right dang fast. But that's a guy that's gonna

1976
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: get to how many hangtimes did Bryce Bearinger have this summer?

1977
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Even on those boomers that.

1978
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:34,839
Speaker 2: So you think Gunner week one slater a mere Speed.

1979
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else they put out there.

1980
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Seems like the schooler played Gunner a little bit last year,

1981
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 1: but he's.

1982
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 2: More of an articular guy.

1983
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need fast gunners if you're gonna have a

1984
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 1: punter like this. But a mere Speed is very fast.

1985
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. That's that's that's what you get.

1986
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 2: On even another one, we connected dots of how a

1987
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 2: mere Speed is on this roster. Pretty surprising that he

1988
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 2: made it, and he's on the roster because he's got

1989
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: to cover punts.

1990
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: I'll give you one more tay, you want to go

1991
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: to another level on this. Yeah, if they're going to

1992
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 1: elevate him at all this year, Malie Cunningham would be

1993
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 1: one of their faster gunners. And we saw him practice there.

1994
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 2: You think Malie Cunningham can play gunner in an NFL game.

1995
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 1: No, But they were giving him off, they were trying

1996
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 1: him out there.

1997
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 2: So all right, Well that does it for this show.

1998
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 2: We're gonna be back next week, hopefully back at two

1999
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 2: o'clock if the schedule permits for the Patriots, but it

2000
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: should because it'll be a regular Thursday, and it'll be

2001
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: a longer break in between practice and open locker room

2002
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 2: next week, Alex, So Philadelphia the Eagles, h oh.

2003
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're We're back in, back in.

2004
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 2: To season mode. We will well, we'll maybe talk a little, Brady,

2005
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 2: but I want to mostly focus on the game. And

2006
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you next week. And I've already brainstormed

2007
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 2: this with the Alex off the air, but this is

2008
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 2: a pro tease right here. I'm gonna tell you next

2009
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 2: week why I think the Patriots offense, the offense can

2010
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: actually score some points against his Eagles defense. Alright, I'm

2011
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 2: gonna tell you that next week. You're gonna have to

2012
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 2: come back next week and hear why. I'm outside my

2013
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,799
Speaker 2: mind thinking that the Patriots are going to hang thirty

2014
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 2: on the Eagles in ten days. But until then, signing

2015
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: off for Map behind the Glass, Alex, I'm Evan Lazar.

2016
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2017
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2018
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