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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shots streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Savannah Humoller, Effson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: And it is time for another edition of mix Shots
Speaker 3: high noon on a Thursday, which is actually a Friday
Speaker 3: from the Cowboys standpoint, because the game is.
Speaker 4: On Saturday, not on Sunday.
Speaker 5: This week Saturday Night Football Cowboys and the Detroit.
Speaker 2: It's a Monday night special edition on Saturday night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, so be gues. We got a national
Speaker 4: that's because we.
Speaker 5: Have national semifinal games on Monday night, New Year's Night.
Speaker 5: Switching to college football, and I am here to announce
Speaker 5: there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Only
Speaker 5: two more Mixed Shots with Mickey wearing that Missouri garb.
Speaker 6: You don't like a peacock, but it's a good thing.
Speaker 6: There's only five days in a week. Because I don't
Speaker 6: think I have anything else. No, I got a sweatshirt
Speaker 6: for tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Okay, it could be one of those bright yellow sweatshirt
Speaker 5: and a battles old as hell, the oldest one.
Speaker 6: I do have a gold sweatshirt, but it's not a Missouri.
Speaker 7: What are you wearing of the game tomorrow night.
Speaker 6: I haven't decided.
Speaker 2: You got to go buy something.
Speaker 6: I might have to. I ran out of time today
Speaker 6: because they were selling stuff at.
Speaker 4: The Okay, so Mickey just made it here in time.
Speaker 5: Because he was at the Cutton Bowl breakfast.
Speaker 6: Coach coaching breakfast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And as a matter of act, I have a New
Speaker 6: Year's present.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that come with the credentials this year.
Speaker 2: No, I came with.
Speaker 4: The freebie.
Speaker 2: That reminds me.
Speaker 5: I need to go pick up my media credentials to
Speaker 5: see to get my freebie.
Speaker 4: Whatever it is you're going to go.
Speaker 6: To the game to cover it, just go for a
Speaker 6: media guy.
Speaker 5: You just go, uh pick up the credentials because there's
Speaker 5: victual swag.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right, very nice.
Speaker 2: I'm just glad you got your chair back man. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was so funny watching back deep in the in
Speaker 2: the in the corner.
Speaker 6: It was dark.
Speaker 4: It was of the SMBC podcast.
Speaker 2: About the shadows, Like, Hey, I.
Speaker 4: Got something and I got to tell you.
Speaker 6: I was like it was like when we started Rob
Speaker 6: Rob phillots out. He was at the table off to
Speaker 6: the side, right, talk about Savannah. You really advanced.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's sure, you a lot more respect than we.
Speaker 5: And I got to say I actually walked out of
Speaker 5: here injured yesterday because Mickey was seated back.
Speaker 4: Over my left shoulder. I had to twist around and
Speaker 4: whenever he talked, and I'm no, lie, my back hurt.
Speaker 4: The rest of the afternoon. I got home and I
Speaker 4: got on one of those little rollers you.
Speaker 2: Know that that yeah, the phone roller?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Are you feeling better today?
Speaker 4: I am better today.
Speaker 6: Yes, we are to the injury.
Speaker 2: Limited.
Speaker 5: He limited injured during mix shots. Now I can understand
Speaker 5: the listener getting injured during mix shots.
Speaker 6: One of the teams, right.
Speaker 2: But it was fun though. I want to mention how
Speaker 2: funny was to have campe on man. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: so good stuff. You know.
Speaker 6: He always kept apologizing afterwards, Oh, I think I talked
Speaker 6: too much. I said, no, No, that's why we had
Speaker 6: you out.
Speaker 5: And it's we could have you one again today because
Speaker 5: he could go on and on talking about Darren Woodson.
Speaker 4: Who once again is a finalist, second year in a
Speaker 4: row for the Hall of Fame. One of the fifteen finalists.
Speaker 6: You know, between YouTube, between you two guys, I'm exhausted
Speaker 6: just trying to explain why you belong in the Pro
Speaker 6: Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: And it shouldn't really go with any explanation. I mean,
Speaker 2: the guy, how many times is this? How many times
Speaker 2: has it?
Speaker 5: He's a work for wood He it was eight times to.
Speaker 4: Advance to the finalist round.
Speaker 5: He has been a semi finalist, semifinalist, but top twenty five,
Speaker 5: but down to the fifteen finalists.
Speaker 4: It's his second straight year.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, he's only got that far.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I mean that's as far as
Speaker 4: you can get.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean in regards he should have there should
Speaker 2: have been many more times if you're gonna yeah, right, nominated.
Speaker 5: And so and without running down the list of the
Speaker 5: fifteen finalists, I mean you have two first time UH
Speaker 5: finalists UH and first year of eligibility and that's Antonio
Speaker 5: Gates and Julius Peppers and so we'll see whether they
Speaker 5: get voted in their first year of eligibility.
Speaker 2: Are there anymore safeties or Harrison?
Speaker 4: Rodney Harrison.
Speaker 2: Now they're going to put him ahead of Woody. You
Speaker 2: see he's on TV all the day time. Give me
Speaker 2: a break, man. I can see I can see it coming.
Speaker 2: I can see it coming.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, they're going to say, well he won Super Bowls.
Speaker 6: Well you know what, Oh.
Speaker 2: Man, that's crazy anyway, kind of bringing place.
Speaker 5: But coach Campbo was the one who was the first
Speaker 5: cowboy basically staffer only coaching staff it went to Tempe
Speaker 5: and scouted the Arizona State players and uh, he was
Speaker 5: the one that discovered Darren Woodson there.
Speaker 4: In fact, it was.
Speaker 5: Philippi Sparks that he went there to scout, and then
Speaker 5: Jimmy gave him a list of other players and wood.
Speaker 2: He spots I played with him. Yeah, New York Times.
Speaker 6: Dad of Jordan's Sparks.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that's right. That's crazy to.
Speaker 6: Hear a funny story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's why we're here. By your story, You're not.
Speaker 4: We're going to endure.
Speaker 6: We're in Phoenix. I think it was Phoenix. Where did
Speaker 6: Philippi play for the Giants?
Speaker 4: That's what we just established.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying before. But I thought he had played, No,
Speaker 6: he was drafted. What was his connection to to Phoenix?
Speaker 6: Did he Arizona State may Or?
Speaker 4: Yes, that's went to Arizona State.
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 6: So we're at the hotel and it's one of these
Speaker 6: glass elevators, right, and so I get in there and
Speaker 6: he came in, Philip A did and we were just
Speaker 6: chatting and we're going up and up, and he's looking
Speaker 6: out over It was one of these atrium hotels, going
Speaker 6: out and looking and he goes, hey, you see that
Speaker 6: floor over there, that one that that room right there,
Speaker 6: and I go yeah, he goes, that's where I conceived
Speaker 6: my daughter.
Speaker 2: Wow, well, thank you for that information. Help you mean
Speaker 2: it's a good room for that? That was good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was just going back through history. He was
Speaker 6: back playing for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Don't get on. Don't get on an elevator like that
Speaker 2: will do a set if the back is out of
Speaker 2: it and you're going ups, he's afraid the heights. Oh really,
Speaker 2: and he will not turn around and look out the like.
Speaker 7: A glass elevator turned around.
Speaker 2: So he's petrified. Was the St. Bonaventure in l A, right,
Speaker 2: that hotel?
Speaker 6: I think that's yeah, yeah, yeah, they're known for that.
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, the out the back is clear,
Speaker 2: and he uh got he was petrified.
Speaker 6: Hopefully they didn't stay at the High next to the
Speaker 6: super Dome in New Orleans. Yeah, oh it's and it's
Speaker 6: like thirty floors hot.
Speaker 2: I think is pretty high. I think that's the reason
Speaker 2: it's all glass. Yeah. Crazy.
Speaker 6: All right, we got a football game.
Speaker 5: We do and and it's not the Cotton Bowl that
Speaker 5: we're going to talk about Tomorrow night. We'll talk about
Speaker 5: the game at at and talk about that Monday we go.
Speaker 7: You have to.
Speaker 2: I got confidence.
Speaker 7: To fights on Monday, hopefully that's right.
Speaker 6: Why is Oklahoma playing?
Speaker 7: No, No, you're the tomorrow Tomorrow is fight?
Speaker 4: So on Friday, yeah, play.
Speaker 7: Tomorrow and then you know, Monday, will we'll.
Speaker 5: Play the Ohio State and if Oklahoma want money, we'll
Speaker 5: play Boomer sooner.
Speaker 2: Are we Are we playing tonight?
Speaker 4: By the way, Yes they are. Yeah, it doesn't it's
Speaker 4: a playing Alamo Bowl. Oh, we don't get excited about bulls.
Speaker 4: I want to sit to college football playoffs. That's why
Speaker 4: we're excited about the Longhorns playing in the Sugar Bowl
Speaker 4: against them. No, I'm searing for them.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, you got you got pulled for the Big twelve. Man,
Speaker 2: if you're in the Big twelve, see my brother never
Speaker 2: understood that he's a ut man. I'm an old u man.
Speaker 2: He seems to think that if ou makes it, then
Speaker 2: it's you know, he can't pull for them. That's so selfish.
Speaker 5: See, my daddy always told me growing up in Irving, Okay,
Speaker 5: and so I'm a Texan even though I was born
Speaker 5: in Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: Could he tell you?
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: And even though my whole family is Sooners. In fact,
Speaker 5: the northwest end entrance to the stadium our rich side
Speaker 5: of the family. They purchased basically that side of the stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and uh, at the entrance whatever, it has their name
Speaker 5: on it. And even though we got those kind of
Speaker 5: ties to Oklahoma, he always taught me, when, oh, us
Speaker 5: not playing Texas, you're rooting for Texas.
Speaker 4: So I'm rooting for.
Speaker 2: The long words. Yeah, my brother is so selfish. He
Speaker 2: hates you like you can hate them. But if you
Speaker 2: guys don't have a chance to represent the Big twelve,
Speaker 2: then roots for the ones that do. Like Nope, I cannot.
Speaker 6: Which by which, by the way, your new commissioner was
Speaker 6: at the breakfast too.
Speaker 5: How about that, oh the SEC commissioner, I said, your
Speaker 5: new commission.
Speaker 4: Try there's an SEC team playing in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you guys are going to be rivals again.
Speaker 5: We used to be rivals, were in the Big Eight
Speaker 5: playing Big eight and Big twelve Land next year we
Speaker 5: are yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's that's one of the ws on the state.
Speaker 6: As I told him, as long as they can score,
Speaker 6: as long as they can score forty four game, yeah,
Speaker 6: because with their defense, Missouri is putting up forty so grambled.
Speaker 2: In North Texas. That just doesn't have the same ring.
Speaker 7: Exactly as that'll be entertaining to watch each other.
Speaker 2: You know, we're cool, you guys.
Speaker 5: I want to hear about an injury report.
Speaker 6: So we got another layer to the Matt will let's
Speaker 6: go being elevated to I mean activated off injured return,
Speaker 6: injured reserve reserve, because not only was this twenty one
Speaker 6: days up, so they had to make a decision either
Speaker 6: put him on the fifty three or he's out for
Speaker 6: the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the year.
Speaker 6: Somebody the name of Tumu showed up at the injury
Speaker 6: port with a toe injury limited. So I think they
Speaker 6: were number one still concerned about Tyron Smith, but number
Speaker 6: two now worried about their death. So what happened to well,
Speaker 6: practice I guess, Oh my.
Speaker 2: God, man, come, what's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 6: Let's see, he was not was he was added to
Speaker 6: the injury report because he was limited on Tuesday. So
Speaker 6: Wednesday limited toe, so.
Speaker 4: He wasn't d and B he was just Limitedyeah.
Speaker 5: Now the left tackle for the Lions, Taylor Decker, he
Speaker 5: is as.
Speaker 6: He went from limited with a groin to d NP.
Speaker 4: Let me give you a.
Speaker 5: Little something on the Lions offensive line, which is one
Speaker 5: of the best offensive lines in football at left tackle
Speaker 5: Taylor Decker, former first round draft pick out of Ohio State,
Speaker 5: Mickey right uh and then yet Pa on the other side,
Speaker 5: who might be the best tackle in football the way
Speaker 5: he's playing.
Speaker 6: He's listed with a shoulder but practicing fully.
Speaker 5: But if the they have three first round former first
Speaker 5: round draft picks on their offensive line and two third
Speaker 5: round draft picks who started guard okay uh.
Speaker 4: I did the research on it.
Speaker 5: And when that offensive line is healthy this season all
Speaker 5: five starters are playing, the Lions are.
Speaker 4: Seven to zero.
Speaker 5: If any one of those starters is missing due to
Speaker 5: an injury, they are four and four. So that's how
Speaker 5: critical that Taylor Decker could be. That mean something, that
Speaker 5: could mean something.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: What's the running backs name? David?
Speaker 5: Two of them, David, Montgomery and Gibbs. They got who
Speaker 5: have both combined for over They have combined for over
Speaker 5: two thousand yards from scrimmage in twenty one touchdowns. You
Speaker 5: thought those two running backs last week were a handful,
Speaker 5: Well you got another handful this week.
Speaker 4: Was Montgomery and Gibbs.
Speaker 6: Try and remember who compared him to Zeke and Tony Pollard.
Speaker 6: Maybe it was Parsons. They were talking about the different
Speaker 6: styles of running under lightning, or maybe it was Osa.
Speaker 6: I talked to both of them, one of the two
Speaker 6: they were talking about. Yeah, it's kind of a change up.
Speaker 6: They're not both the same.
Speaker 5: Montgomery's two hundred and twenty five pounder ran four to six. Okay,
Speaker 5: so he's your Zeke and although Zeke actually ran faster
Speaker 5: that but uh. And then Gibbs runs a four three
Speaker 5: five and he's a two hundred pounder. And but Paulard's
Speaker 5: a little bigger than him. But man, he's got some purse,
Speaker 5: he can go.
Speaker 4: He got some juice.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they want to run the football. I believe
Speaker 6: they're number three rushing off.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can tell you go back to their
Speaker 5: first draft after Dan Campbell got there. Remember the scene
Speaker 5: in the draft room at Detroit when they drafted Pina Suol.
Speaker 4: Those those coaches were high five.
Speaker 2: In each other.
Speaker 4: It was a seventh overall pick.
Speaker 5: The big offensive tack a lot of Washington, and that
Speaker 5: set the tone for what they want to do as
Speaker 5: a football team, running the football, and they have improved
Speaker 5: immenseally running the football and also stopping the run.
Speaker 4: Also.
Speaker 5: You know, they were twenty ninth in the league in
Speaker 5: run defense last year and their fourth this year, and.
Speaker 7: That's a big different.
Speaker 6: But their nineteenth and past defense, well you can see
Speaker 6: what kind of game this is.
Speaker 4: Going to be.
Speaker 8: They did it against the Vikings last week. They Vikings
Speaker 8: had four hundred and eleven passing yards, so they let
Speaker 8: up a good amount down the field.
Speaker 6: So when I was listening, so yeah, with Nick Mullens
Speaker 6: throwing them.
Speaker 2: Exactly this man.
Speaker 6: So when I was listening to NFL radio, I think
Speaker 6: it was last night.
Speaker 4: I got you listening to serious NFL rate.
Speaker 6: I can't I can't listen to the backups.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the local guys.
Speaker 6: Okay, who they were pointing out now this one, I
Speaker 6: don't know who was on but they were pointing out,
Speaker 6: wouldn't this be something if Detroit ends up as the
Speaker 6: second seed and they have to play the Rams.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
Speaker 6: So the two quarterbacks that got traded, they get the play.
Speaker 4: And we'll see, I mean, the Rams could win.
Speaker 6: I know it was it was Lomas Brown, Yeah, the
Speaker 6: former tackle.
Speaker 5: That is the that's the matchup that is going to
Speaker 5: you just know it's going to happen. The Rams are
Speaker 5: going to play the Lions in the wild card, right,
Speaker 5: and it's going to turn out like that and the
Speaker 5: Lions could be the third seed. It still happened, Yeah,
Speaker 5: because where the Rams wind up?
Speaker 6: They asked him what would that be like in Detroit?
Speaker 6: He said chaotic? And he said and he said, can
Speaker 6: you imagine if Stafford comes back here and beats us.
Speaker 4: And then you've got Golf the former Rams, you know,
Speaker 4: but but.
Speaker 6: He said, it'll be the Monday night game.
Speaker 2: Whether it be uh will Matthew? Did Matthew leave under
Speaker 2: bad conditions?
Speaker 6: They just decided.
Speaker 5: You know that that is a trade that truly benefited
Speaker 5: both teams when you see what happened. Yeah, right, because
Speaker 5: because golf had this reputation, you know, then whether soft
Speaker 5: or whatever. And then he goes up there and gets
Speaker 5: with a coach who believes in him.
Speaker 2: And uh in Detroit and another example of having the
Speaker 2: right motivator for the right player.
Speaker 5: Right, and he's put together now three and two back
Speaker 5: to back really good seasons, Pro Bowl type seasons.
Speaker 6: He'll throw an interception for you, though, but.
Speaker 5: Last year he took care of the only only three
Speaker 5: seven picks last year. I think they were they were
Speaker 5: first in the league in giveaways last year. As far
Speaker 5: as being good the fewest giveaways last year, kind of
Speaker 5: like what the Cowboys are this year.
Speaker 6: This year, he has tossed ten ten yeah, right, so
Speaker 6: he's seven to ten as long as it's two to one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and your two over you know, two point seven
Speaker 5: to one there, so yeah, and which is very similar
Speaker 5: to Twist stats by the way.
Speaker 6: You know, they've they've done something they hadn't done since
Speaker 6: ninety three and won a division title already.
Speaker 2: It's tough playing up there in Detroit. Yeah, so if
Speaker 2: they get some home field advantage in any way, boy,
Speaker 2: they love.
Speaker 6: That, even I mean even in the new stadium, right,
Speaker 6: the old stadium was even worse. Yeah, when when the
Speaker 6: Cowboys had to go up there a second round in
Speaker 6: ninety one, and they had already lost to Detroit in
Speaker 6: the regular season, Eric Kramer quarterback. And I'm going on,
Speaker 6: you know, Cowboys are on this winning streak. They're not
Speaker 6: going to lose to Eric Kramer again, right, And I said,
Speaker 6: there's no way.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 6: The paper had already folded. So I was helping Carol
Speaker 6: d out and I had a press pass, and so
Speaker 6: I went up to the game and I'm sitting in
Speaker 6: like the second or third row of the stands in
Speaker 6: the end zone, and they played the national anthem, and
Speaker 6: when it finished, the noise in the stadium at the
Speaker 6: Pontiac Silver Dome was so loud. I'm going I don't
Speaker 6: think I liked my pick anymore.
Speaker 2: I never won that, really, I played twice. Never won.
Speaker 2: I played with the with the Cowboys, huh. And they
Speaker 2: came out and you know how it was. It's one
Speaker 2: of those games like we're always mad about with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Now you go in there, you're supposed to win, you
Speaker 2: don't because the crowd's going crazy and they're ready for you,
Speaker 2: and you're not ready. Right. We went in there with
Speaker 2: with the Browns and I remember check I guess he
Speaker 2: was accustomed to it, and using his experience, he goes, Okay, guys,
Speaker 2: when we go out here and we warm up, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be anting circus. Circus. It's gonna be a circus.
Speaker 2: So he was right. We went out there. They had
Speaker 2: a blimp inside going around, yes, and then there's the
Speaker 2: smoke from whatever they have. We were trying to warm
Speaker 2: up as defensive backs and they had some fire thing
Speaker 2: going on back there, and you could feel it. Every
Speaker 2: time it would it would, you know, burst, you know.
Speaker 2: So we were working out warming up next to that.
Speaker 2: Nick Saban had to move us around to another part
Speaker 2: of the stadium, another part of the field because it
Speaker 2: was so hot next to that. Whatever the hell that
Speaker 2: thing was a torch.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know what.
Speaker 8: You're talking about, all that things you're involved with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they thank you.
Speaker 7: They they they don't use the fire anymore.
Speaker 2: Oh thank god. Yeah. I could probably burned a couple
Speaker 2: of our guys in Cleveland. But no, that was that
Speaker 2: was ugly and I was. And then we went out
Speaker 2: there and and.
Speaker 6: Detroit kicked their buttons in that game, that's true. They
Speaker 6: started burline one more time.
Speaker 4: All right, we're six minutes late.
Speaker 5: I'm taking this first break man, so mixed shots will continue.
Speaker 4: In just a moment.
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Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys. Guys, I was looking up a couple things
Speaker 8: for this Lions game. Yes, and the thing that I
Speaker 8: wanted to find out is what the Detroit Lions are
Speaker 8: concerned about as far as the Cowboys. So I listened
Speaker 8: to Jared Goff in one of his press conferences and
Speaker 8: two of the players that were brought up in the
Speaker 8: press conference was Deron Bland and Micah Parsons.
Speaker 7: He had this to say about.
Speaker 8: Deron Bland, very opportunity, stick can take them all the
Speaker 8: way back to the house. And then when asked about
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons, he said, he's a dangerous player. He's a
Speaker 8: great player. He can do a hell of a lot,
Speaker 8: but we've got to be aware of where he's at.
Speaker 8: So I think those are some two big concerns as
Speaker 8: far as the Cowboys defense.
Speaker 6: For the Lions, that's why he needs to be a linebacker.
Speaker 2: You know, when you sent those plays out Bill a
Speaker 2: couple of days ago, you know, we were taking a
Speaker 2: look at a certain player and where they had us
Speaker 2: lined up and the personnel. One thing I did see
Speaker 2: that was a little alarming. Mike has got to be smarter.
Speaker 2: He's got to be smarter there's some.
Speaker 6: Place to where you can't just take off.
Speaker 2: You know, there's some place where you have to understand
Speaker 2: what the formation is and where you can be beat.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, where your weakness is. I mean,
Speaker 2: all players, DB's whatever. You know, we always start from
Speaker 2: the from the end, like what's my worst case scenario?
Speaker 2: That's what you have to figure out as soon as
Speaker 2: you line up, and then you can whittly down to
Speaker 2: you know, what I'm supposed to be doing and how
Speaker 2: it can make plays. He seems to he's a little
Speaker 2: bit one track minded. He's got to be smarter because
Speaker 2: he's got himself out of position a couple of times
Speaker 2: when clearly he should have been more aware of the
Speaker 2: quarterback keeping the ball and see those kind of things
Speaker 2: kind of concerns me about him because he gets so
Speaker 2: frustrated with the inefficiency of the defense itself. And that's
Speaker 2: when you can tell he just was just going out
Speaker 2: there freestyling.
Speaker 5: That is that and that can be contagious other with
Speaker 5: his teammates. Exactly what happened so in which I think
Speaker 5: that's what happened in the Arizona game, and it probably
Speaker 5: happened in the Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Game, no doubt.
Speaker 6: And it happened against Miami because when I went back
Speaker 6: and watched, and it was more than what Bill sentners.
Speaker 6: He's crashing inside without any awareness of where the football.
Speaker 2: Thank you, that's the play I'm talking about. We're talking about.
Speaker 13: Crashed hard, hard side and the ball was they didn't
Speaker 13: even I don't even know if they had a place,
Speaker 13: and the ball came to his side and it was
Speaker 13: wide old.
Speaker 2: He was he was past the center. Yes, it was
Speaker 2: past the center. And see, those are the kind of things.
Speaker 2: That's because we know how dangerous he is. Everyone knows
Speaker 2: how dangerous he is. But he's got to be smarter,
Speaker 2: and the smarter he gets. We'd always talk about Sean
Speaker 2: Lee and how he played. You gotta have that kind
Speaker 2: of mentality and in regards to aggression with intellect, you understand.
Speaker 2: And that's what not what he's doing right now.
Speaker 6: And see they had him at linebacker on on on
Speaker 6: this one play and he was not over the center,
Speaker 6: but he was in the middle right and it was
Speaker 6: a running play. I want to say to his well,
Speaker 6: it was either left or right, one of them, one
Speaker 6: of them.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 6: He read it, he read it accurately, and he was
Speaker 6: like shot out of a gun. He just went right
Speaker 6: through the crease used to do. And that's what I
Speaker 6: saw him at Penn State and the Cotton Bowl. They
Speaker 6: somewhat ruined his instincts, like that's where.
Speaker 2: He needs to be. I think he may have. He
Speaker 2: may have ruined himself because.
Speaker 6: Of the success he quarterback.
Speaker 2: Now people are countering that. He's got to know that,
Speaker 2: I mean, and the coaches should be telling that. Look,
Speaker 2: I mean, the coaches really should be telling him this.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows what you're doing. They're going to counter you
Speaker 2: because if we saw someone like him on the other team,
Speaker 2: we would do the same thing. I think it just
Speaker 2: takes a conversation in the film session. It can't be
Speaker 2: that freaking hard, you know. I mean, I know football
Speaker 2: is hard, but as far as figuring out and anticipating,
Speaker 2: that's something that he has got to do better. And
Speaker 2: it's hurting this running defense.
Speaker 6: And I think, and I think they just can't bring
Speaker 6: it to themselves to say, Okay, you're not doing it,
Speaker 6: come here, sit by me.
Speaker 2: They somebody's gotta do something. It's got to be a
Speaker 2: Shawn Lee's got to be in the room.
Speaker 5: Somewhere, and we mentioned it during the show yesterday, the
Speaker 5: roster move they made yesterday, which was obviously, well, let's
Speaker 5: go active off of injured.
Speaker 4: Reserve, and Rashawn Evans waived.
Speaker 5: And then the news came out later in the day
Speaker 5: that from the Frisco Police that Evans had been arrested
Speaker 5: the previous day, And I'm here to tell you that
Speaker 5: had nothing.
Speaker 2: To do with the release, because I thought it had.
Speaker 4: Nothing to do with it.
Speaker 5: It was like, in fact, I was not surprised that
Speaker 5: Evans was released after seeing against Miami that he had
Speaker 5: no defensive snaps.
Speaker 4: In that game, he had seven special tax snaps.
Speaker 5: And one of the issues with him is they need,
Speaker 5: even if they're not going to use that particular linebackers
Speaker 5: spot on defense, that linebackers spot has to be used
Speaker 5: on special teams. And he does not have a history
Speaker 5: of playing special teams in his career, and they need
Speaker 5: a guy who can occupy that spot, who can be
Speaker 5: a special teams player.
Speaker 6: And when he's been active, he's played more special teams
Speaker 6: than regular snaps fourteen in the last four games.
Speaker 5: And by the way, I'm thinking that the reason Marquise
Speaker 5: Bell had limited snaps in the game.
Speaker 4: Is he's he is.
Speaker 5: Now how many games into the season, fifteen games into
Speaker 5: this season, and his his body at two hundred and
Speaker 5: fifteen pounds playing that position needs to break. So I'm
Speaker 5: thinking that's probably why Curse was in there more at
Speaker 5: linebacker and then and Bell had only thirty one snaps
Speaker 5: in the game.
Speaker 7: However, with the Lions on the line right.
Speaker 4: And they've got to have well, that's the other thing.
Speaker 5: The other part of that is the way the Dolphins
Speaker 5: play offense, and you want as much speed on the
Speaker 5: field as possible, which wouldn't mean get Bell on the field.
Speaker 5: It didn't make any sense him not being on the
Speaker 5: field as much. And so I'm thinking he's probably even
Speaker 5: though he's not on the injury report, he's probably got
Speaker 5: some nicks and you know that he's Yeah, so that's
Speaker 5: my two cents worth.
Speaker 2: I would imagine this draft, we're going to be looking
Speaker 2: at linebackers.
Speaker 5: Well, and they get over shown back from his ACL injury,
Speaker 5: but as a player then now coming off an a
Speaker 5: cl injury and you know that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he hasn't played.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 5: He's a guy that was a safety recruited I was
Speaker 5: out of art Texas five Stars safety and converted a
Speaker 5: linebacker in college. I mean, so he is exactly what
Speaker 5: the NFL has become at the linebacker position. He just
Speaker 5: doesn't have the experience. And the biggest issue that I
Speaker 5: have with playing safeties at linebacker is they haven't spent
Speaker 5: their life reading and reacting like a linebacker does and
Speaker 5: sniffing out plays that right, every can do that, right,
Speaker 5: And it's it's this isn't on the job training here.
Speaker 6: And you've got to be ready to take on an
Speaker 6: offensive tax right, gets off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is our problem.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the other part of it is if we
Speaker 5: especially with Jonathan Hankins out, and you don't have the big,
Speaker 5: hulking defensive tackle who can occupy the blockers and keep
Speaker 5: them off the off the linebackers too, And.
Speaker 2: Did we did we? Are we countering that with five
Speaker 2: defensive linemen.
Speaker 4: There's no no.
Speaker 5: There are occasions they did it a little, They did
Speaker 5: uh well in the Miami game. There were times, not
Speaker 5: very often, maybe a handful of times in the game,
Speaker 5: uh dictated probably by situation where they would play with
Speaker 5: an extra defensive lineman, But never they never had what
Speaker 5: you would say, even in short yardage situation, seven front,
Speaker 5: seven players who weren't safeties by nature, you know, a
Speaker 5: curse being a safety. They counted him as a linebacker
Speaker 5: in the game.
Speaker 2: But you can you can do that on on shore,
Speaker 2: George and goal line, especially go line.
Speaker 5: You can do that somewhere in that when you can
Speaker 5: put the bigger bodies in the field. Yeah, exactly. And
Speaker 5: that's that and that that was what is alarming to
Speaker 5: me in the Buffalo game. I mean down on the
Speaker 5: goal line, there were there were five DB's and six
Speaker 5: you know, bigger bodies on the field. I'm like, how
Speaker 5: can you stop them on the goal line with if
Speaker 5: you got five or six dbs on.
Speaker 4: The field, you can't on on at the one yard line.
Speaker 6: So maybe it was the Giants game here in Washington
Speaker 6: they they actually started playing five guys on the line,
Speaker 6: I mean defensive front that game.
Speaker 2: Right, we haven't done this, I remember, you know.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, okay, you know what, I kind of like that.
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, I'm stopping the run.
Speaker 2: Damn. What is what is Quinn? What is is quinn? Happened?
Speaker 2: In press conferences He's.
Speaker 5: Saying he didn't have one this week right now there
Speaker 5: was because of a short short week.
Speaker 2: They didn't talk all right.
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Speaker 4: Today is December twenty eighth.
Speaker 5: Right, yes, it is December twenty eighth.
Speaker 4: Hold a special place in Cowboys history.
Speaker 2: And then this podcast.
Speaker 4: It does?
Speaker 7: Are you going to are you going to tell us?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Why this podcast?
Speaker 2: I'm here, this is my birthday. This is my birthday.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here. Is it really special? Shut up?
Speaker 2: A good actor?
Speaker 7: Hold on, I'm going back to the Ruthy's all down.
Speaker 7: This might be on me, you guys, No.
Speaker 2: This is on Bill. No, Bill already, Bill already knew.
Speaker 5: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: This was Bill's man.
Speaker 4: So the Hail Mary happened on your birthday?
Speaker 2: Yes right, you're damn right.
Speaker 4: I was going to bring up the hell till Mary
Speaker 4: dayn Mary Day?
Speaker 2: No, No, it's hall Eversonday. This that was a wild day.
Speaker 2: That was my sixteenth birthday, Your happiest birthday I ever had?
Speaker 7: My day, birthday, birthday song.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, night. I thought, they're really going to meet
Speaker 2: with something.
Speaker 4: That's probably thank you, thank you years, thank birthday.
Speaker 2: Ever, you're going to pull out a Willie Nelson happy.
Speaker 5: So that was your sixteenth birthday. That was my sixteenth,
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy five. Twenty eighth, nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 6: You and Derek Eagleton have the same birthday.
Speaker 2: You are Lie Derek's birthday. Nice. Nice nice. I remember
Speaker 2: coming in man after the after the catch, and damn.
Speaker 4: That wasn't that wasn't the catch. That was a different game.
Speaker 6: It was an actual catch.
Speaker 2: It was an actual Drew had to catch the ball.
Speaker 6: I had to pin it on his hill.
Speaker 2: After the catch that Drew Maids and the Hail Mary game.
Speaker 2: I just remember I didn't know what to do. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't have no brothers or nothing at the time,
Speaker 2: so I'm just I didn't know what to do, man,
Speaker 2: I mean, damn, just that was amazing, right. So I
Speaker 2: skipped into the kitchen and my mom said, I'm making
Speaker 2: my birthday cake. I'm like, Mom, she don't give it
Speaker 2: damn about football. You know, I go in there. I
Speaker 2: had nobody to talk to.
Speaker 4: I know, I know the feeling.
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't really say it enough to where
Speaker 2: I said, they just won the game. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: they say that is nothing.
Speaker 5: I mean, and you said, you said they not only
Speaker 5: won the game, but it was a hail Mary. We
Speaker 5: didn't know it was Mary then until said it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Even let me get that for us. Like, boy, she
Speaker 2: was doing my cake. I remember she was doing my cake.
Speaker 4: That reminded.
Speaker 5: That reminds me of when I was in college when
Speaker 5: Roger threw the touchdown past Tony Hill to be Washington
Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy nine, K seventy nine, and I was
Speaker 5: at the frat house in my room. I lived in
Speaker 5: the annex, the singap South is what we called it.
Speaker 5: And and so it was colder and all get out
Speaker 5: in Norman, Oklahoma that day.
Speaker 4: And so I'm in there watching it, and I.
Speaker 5: Went running outside, jumping up and down like on ice
Speaker 5: outside and I sprained my ankle.
Speaker 2: Was I was looking for some I was Jim Valan.
Speaker 4: I was Jim Valvano trying to find somebody a hug.
Speaker 2: I just went outside stuff, playing by myself because nobody
Speaker 2: was around. I just didn't know what to do. I
Speaker 2: was just had all this energy and I was happy
Speaker 2: and it was crazy. Man, I forget my birthday. We
Speaker 2: won the game, bro, That's all I worried about. That
Speaker 2: was fun. That was fun.
Speaker 5: That was good, very good trip down memory lane there
Speaker 5: making and a good birthday.
Speaker 4: You do anything special for your birthday.
Speaker 2: Going to a friend's house tonight and my brother Larry
Speaker 2: Lundy headed to his house for some reason. His wife
Speaker 2: loves to cook.
Speaker 6: For me and uh, that's a good family over.
Speaker 2: She's from the Islands, so we're gonna have like the
Speaker 2: yellow rice and the beans. It's very good. Great, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's she's cool chick.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 6: Well, that was an extensive tour that came back.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people.
Speaker 7: It's still Yeah, they all came to say my birthday,
Speaker 7: Happy birthday.
Speaker 4: If this was out there, if if.
Speaker 2: It was being piped out there in the hallway.
Speaker 5: They if Nate and Frisco was out there, he could
Speaker 5: lead them and happy singing Happy birthday to eversonboy.
Speaker 2: Check your text. I'm sure they send some uh goofy text.
Speaker 6: They were shooting them through.
Speaker 4: All right, Mickey, we got five minutes left for more
Speaker 4: mix shots.
Speaker 6: What do I have?
Speaker 2: Yep? You got? What do you got?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 2: On football?
Speaker 6: Here's another one on Detroit. I noticed they've won eleven games.
Speaker 6: That has tied their franchise single season high. Have never
Speaker 6: won more than eleven games in a single season, So
Speaker 6: they're going for history here at the AT and T.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, the last time they've won
Speaker 6: eleven twenty fourteen, nineteen ninety one. In nineteen sixty.
Speaker 4: Two, nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 6: Anybody here born by sixty two?
Speaker 4: They were me and Mickey was I mean? Ever? Yeah,
Speaker 4: he announced that earlier.
Speaker 7: I can't relate.
Speaker 6: No, the better questions for home are your parents born before?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So who's the quarterback in sixty two?
Speaker 6: Milk Plum?
Speaker 2: Was he good?
Speaker 4: No, I'm George Plimpton could.
Speaker 2: Have been close to it. May I forgot about him?
Speaker 5: The paper Lion, Go Savannah, you need to google Paper Lion,
Speaker 5: George Plimptonky, it goes back to our day.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the way the media was back then.
Speaker 5: That was it was Milt Plump and Earl Morral, Milt Plumb,
Speaker 5: milk Plum.
Speaker 4: It was a backup.
Speaker 7: I'll look it up, you guys.
Speaker 4: There you go. Well that was a nice little nugget.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: And the Cowboys looking for their eleventh win. My well,
Speaker 5: you remember predictions at the beginning of the season, what
Speaker 5: we predicted the Cowboys to win? How many games in
Speaker 5: the regular season?
Speaker 4: I know what mine was.
Speaker 2: I did eleven.
Speaker 4: Cow Boys are still on.
Speaker 7: I don't recall doing that.
Speaker 4: I did twelve. Well, you were a later arrival.
Speaker 7: You were a week late, a week late into the season,
Speaker 7: so you can.
Speaker 4: Just make up whatever it is going with.
Speaker 7: I think twelve.
Speaker 5: I think I'm pretty sure I went twelve would be
Speaker 5: third straight. Twelve, So get eleven, gotta win this one
Speaker 5: and gotta beat Washington.
Speaker 6: Right, get the twelve and five?
Speaker 2: I think when I know, what I was thinking is
Speaker 2: that we'd be hopefully we'd be trending upward as we
Speaker 2: got to the end of the season. I didn't think
Speaker 2: I was gonna it was gonna be easy. I did
Speaker 2: it was gonna be so eleven or twelve.
Speaker 4: Where is the Cowboys arrow right now?
Speaker 2: Later it's lateral? Right now, we could lose three in
Speaker 2: a row.
Speaker 7: You need to be on the upward trend.
Speaker 12: We need to be.
Speaker 5: So you came out of that, how did you feel
Speaker 5: about this team coming out of that Miami game?
Speaker 2: Still Luke one because only because you know all all
Speaker 2: the teams right now, forget about the fight to me
Speaker 2: there in the middle of the pack in reguards.
Speaker 5: Forget to forget about the final score of that game.
Speaker 5: Right How is this team playing coming out of that game?
Speaker 2: Well, if you're gonna look at it that way, then
Speaker 2: I have to look at us uh inability to play
Speaker 2: the run. It does not look good until we can
Speaker 2: do something about that. It's silly to me that no
Speaker 2: one's trying. That's the concerning part other than here in
Speaker 2: the in the media.
Speaker 4: That's the concerning part for me.
Speaker 5: Is anytime JN curse at linebacker by necessity or was
Speaker 5: this just a one time, okay, strategy, strategic move against
Speaker 5: the Miami team, or was it based on what you
Speaker 5: didn't see against Buffalo the week before?
Speaker 2: And you're making the very concerned about the past, So
Speaker 2: then they decided maybe to be a little soft on
Speaker 2: the run.
Speaker 6: He was, he was the third linebacker all year lest year.
Speaker 4: But my concern is him being the second linebacker.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, curse or belle belle, Okay, we'll get him
Speaker 6: out there. I'm going to get him out.
Speaker 2: There either way. Either way, they're going to be overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: Either way, they're going to be overwhelmed. And then here's
Speaker 2: the other part of the ability to stop. Here's another
Speaker 2: part of it.
Speaker 4: What of hav an injury at linebacker? There one linebacker
Speaker 4: on the roster de Montclark.
Speaker 6: Now what I'm like during the game because look at
Speaker 6: the practice squad, there's only two.
Speaker 5: On the practice and I'm thinking Buddy Johnson has a
Speaker 5: chance to be elevated this week.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking probably because already used would have to put
Speaker 6: him on the FI, right, I think.
Speaker 5: I think Buddy Johnson's probably looking at an elevation this week.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm so frustrated. It seems as if, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're running around the sky is falling. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, This guy's fall and nobody's doing
Speaker 2: anything about it. You know, we just status quo as
Speaker 2: if hey man, we didn't just get two hundred yards
Speaker 2: going on us in Buffalo. We didn't just show weakness
Speaker 2: against the Dolphins, you know, allowed yards. There you go
Speaker 2: with the numbers. It's not about the numbers.
Speaker 8: Well, last night I watched the episode of Hard Knocks
Speaker 8: that the Dolphins featured when they played us this last time,
Speaker 8: so I you know, went down. You know, it relived
Speaker 8: a little bit of pain there watching it. But I
Speaker 8: will say one of the biggest things that stuck out
Speaker 8: to me the most is when they were prepping for
Speaker 8: the game, the Dolphins' really biggest concern was Dak and
Speaker 8: his ability to run on third downs and get a
Speaker 8: first down because he's the way he scrambles.
Speaker 7: That was one of their.
Speaker 8: Biggest concerns that they you know, talking about an episode
Speaker 8: and that is that is a concern and that should
Speaker 8: be a concern for the Lions. He does a good
Speaker 8: job at scrambling and being able to get the ball
Speaker 8: out when scrambling.
Speaker 7: To pass exact.
Speaker 6: So here's what the dilemma is.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to check.
Speaker 6: So they're tight end Sam seventy four catches, So how
Speaker 6: do you you don't want a tight end defending him?
Speaker 6: I mean a linebacker defending him.
Speaker 2: He's eighty seven also, is he yes?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So you you're there's a conundrum there. They
Speaker 6: run the ball well, but the tight end needs a
Speaker 6: safety probably to cover him, and the only safety that's
Speaker 6: big enough to do it is jay Ron Curse.
Speaker 2: And see, so he's a he's.
Speaker 6: A mismatched player, and as.
Speaker 2: Doesn't cover that well, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Either.
Speaker 6: He's a good he can't if he's got to make
Speaker 6: the guy not get off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: He never does not.
Speaker 6: And as as McCarthy pointed out yesterday, you know, he's
Speaker 6: a good two way tight end, like he can it downfield,
Speaker 6: but he's also a pretty good blocker.
Speaker 4: So that's I know, the Cowboys liked him coming out
Speaker 4: of Iowa. Yeah, I mean there was thought.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they were. He was in the conversation
Speaker 5: in the first round. I mean, he went thirty four
Speaker 5: to Detroit, and so you know, obviously in the draft,
Speaker 5: having lost Dalton Schultz, there's a lot of speculation about
Speaker 5: the Cowboys taking a tight end, and I think Laporta
Speaker 5: was probably at the top of their list.
Speaker 6: So I got taken and.
Speaker 5: Rightly so he said, he's got seventy four catches in
Speaker 5: his rookie season.
Speaker 6: And he gets down the field, it's none of these
Speaker 6: five yards turn around and he's likeways stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just like eighty seven.
Speaker 6: But you got him in with the fourth instead of
Speaker 6: the second.
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, So.
Speaker 5: Much more to get to tomorrow. We're not going to
Speaker 5: talk Missouri football tomorrow. Is that a deal, everybody?
Speaker 15: I'm with you after after the fight song, there you go,
Speaker 15: all right, And so we'll talk Oklahoma football and post
Speaker 15: game show from tonight's Alamo Bowl in the next edition
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