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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Ar.

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Speaker 1: What how you doing, girl? I'm good. How are you

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Speaker 1: doing today? All right? I like to hear that. You

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Speaker 1: know what's ridiculous. I've been waiting to see you. I do. Okay.

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Speaker 1: You know the actress Lucy Lou, Yeah, not personally, but

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Speaker 1: I know of who you know of her? Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: when she was like hyping Charlie's Angels in the movie

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Speaker 1: ds there you go. I knew you'd know a TV show,

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Speaker 1: so I figured you might know it. So Lucy Lou

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Speaker 1: told us Weekly that she once made love to a ghost.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, she said, She said, and I quote,

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Speaker 1: some sort of spirit came down from God knows where

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Speaker 1: and made love to me. It was sheer bliss. I

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Speaker 1: felt everything. I climaxed, and then he floated away. It

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Speaker 1: was almost like what might have happened to Mary. That's

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Speaker 1: how it felt. Something came down and touched me, and

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Speaker 1: now it watches over me. It's like what happened. She

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Speaker 1: compared herself to Jesus's mom having sex with a ghost,

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Speaker 1: which I think is just amazing. And then On top

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Speaker 1: of that, her ghost is like a f boy who

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Speaker 1: floats away, and she's like, now he still watches over me?

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Speaker 1: Sure he does point him out? Where is he? Lucy,

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Speaker 1: Lucy lou my girl, Drew, what is happening? I thought

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Speaker 1: you'd like that? Thank you? I too like it? Ridiculous

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Speaker 1: that that is calculus. Oh, by the way, dan Ackroyd,

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Speaker 1: he used to cuddle with a ghost. Yeah, he would

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Speaker 1: ghost that I guess I had like a fatherly avuncular

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Speaker 1: spirit ghosts. Yeah, that's part of what inspired Ghostbusters. Him

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Speaker 1: cuddling as with a ghost as a child. That is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You want to know what else is? I'm here for it.

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Speaker 1: Stealing the icon of Hollywood's biggest night. This is Ridiculous Crime,

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Speaker 1: a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. Heiss and cons.

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Speaker 1: It's always murder free and one ridiculous. Yes, Elizabeth Um,

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Speaker 1: we have our own critically acclaimed awards show here on

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous exactly the purpise. It's an unhinged affair. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: no cure for the purpose. It's very loose. It's star studded.

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Speaker 1: It is a studded, star studded event. Um. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: hold a candle though to what's deemed Hollywood's biggest night,

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Speaker 1: the Academy Award y a k a. The Oscar the Oscars.

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Speaker 1: So the Oscars, aside from being Hollywood's biggest night, um,

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Speaker 1: they're the awards that are scented by the Academy of

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Speaker 1: Motion Pictures and Sciences Arts and Sciences UM. Members of

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Speaker 1: the Academy vote on the winners each year. Now, folks

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Speaker 1: in the movie business, they long to one day make

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Speaker 1: their way to the stage and their designer duds give

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Speaker 1: exactly now. The statuette is actually called the Academy Award

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Speaker 1: of Merit, and it's you have like six, right, Uh

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Speaker 1: not anymore? I got five. I sold one. So it's

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Speaker 1: gold plated metal. It's thirteen and a half inches tall. Um.

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Speaker 1: It's a figure of a naked guy holding a sword,

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Speaker 1: and it's rendered in like Art Deco fashion. The figure

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you this description. I'm just looking at my

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Speaker 1: own Oscar for best Supporting Actress and Cannonball run. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, describing it some of your finest work.

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Speaker 1: So the five spokes represent Dom Delowiz is not easy

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Speaker 1: original branches of the Academy actors, writers, directors, producers, and technicians.

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Speaker 1: Do you know why they call it Oscar? Actually I

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Speaker 1: the Purpies, we had those what seven thousand figurines that

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Speaker 1: They're getting ready to ship them out. The truck started,

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Speaker 1: an idiom that simply describes someone who is completely nude, naked,

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Speaker 1: When new inmates are processed in jails, they're stripped, naked

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Speaker 1: idiom naked as a fledgling or the alternative source naked

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Speaker 1: I always historically my family use naked as a j leno,

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Speaker 1: so it's totally different. I just I don't know. I mean, widioms,

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Speaker 1: for pictures with the oscars evidence of a crime, and

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Speaker 1: But the oscars didn't make it to Beverly Hills. Instead,

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Speaker 1: And he's like, you're not gonna be like, I'll take

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00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: that one for a hund because I don't want to

420
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: drive all the way up to Hollywood Boulevard exactly. It

421
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. So March eighteenth, so this is what

422
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: ten days on from when they arrived in bell Um,

423
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: Larry Ladent Anthony Hart arrested. They get pinched. The detectives

424
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: are talking to Ladent at the station and one of

425
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: them said that Heart had already confessed. Um. He said,

426
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: you know, Heart said that you kept three of the oscars,

427
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: and that's not true. But Ladent be lieve them that

428
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: this confession had happened, and so he confesses you never

429
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: believe anything. He eventually pleads no contest to grand theft charges. Um.

430
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: He gets sentenced to six months in jail, five years probation,

431
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: and fifty one thousand dollars in restitutions. Damn. Other than

432
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: the restitution, that's not bad. But where are the awards? Oh?

433
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: Good question, right, So the cops they go to that

434
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: Altadina address. So then they ring up the attorney Heart's

435
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: brother in law. Do you have him? No, I have

436
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: no idea. I just take checks. Where in the world

437
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: were the oscars? Hollywood's biggest night is hanging in the balance.

438
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: It's coming up March eighteenth at this point. Yeah, when

439
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: we get back from this, I'm going to let you

440
00:26:49,320 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: know where those little golden nudes surface. He's Aaron, Yes,

441
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Tutton, what are you doing here? I'm here to

442
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: finish my story. I came back excellent. I was hoping.

443
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm over here wondering what's happening to these golden new

444
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: men imagination. When we left off laden in Heart, they

445
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: had been arrested for the theft of the Oscar statuettes.

446
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: Police they can't recover that. They have no idea. Enter

447
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Willie Fulger. Willie Willie Fulger was having a rough time

448
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: of things. He's flat broke. He had been evicted from

449
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: his house and was living in this really gross studio apartment.

450
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: Not bad Billy Folger. Well, he was originally from Jackson, Mississippi,

451
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: and he had moved from Jackson to Chicago, and then

452
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: he made his way out to Los Angeles in the

453
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: early sixties. So he basically did the northern migration and

454
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: then went to west exactly. And that was actually the time.

455
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: And so in the in the early sixties, he rolls

456
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: into the Golden State in the big old Cadillac. He's

457
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: got a pretty blonde with him, and then his two

458
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: half brothers, John and Ray there with him too. He

459
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: wanted to be a star. He wanted to be a singer.

460
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: And just like thousands and thousands of people who had

461
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to chase their dreams, those dreams dissolved

462
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: in the smoggy air of the south Land. Yes, like

463
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: a sugar cube in the rain. He did not become

464
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: a star. Um. He made a go of it with

465
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things. He owned a nightclub for

466
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: a while. Um, he dabbled in real estate. Every venture

467
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: that he had took him further and further down the

468
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: ladder instead of up until he finally found himself working

469
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: as a scavenger junk man. Yeah, so in two thousand

470
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: he was still driving the Cadillac, this time in eighty

471
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: nine Coupe Deville. Old dreams die hard. In that March

472
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: of two thousands, he was dumpster diving behind the Food

473
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: for Less at the corner of West Venice and Southwestern

474
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: near Koreatown. Yeah, I figured that's why I dropped that

475
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: in there for you. Um. So he pulled some stuff

476
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: out of the way in this dumpster to see if

477
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: there was anything good at the bottom. He saw something gold.

478
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: It's like jackpot um. He digs deeper, he looks closer.

479
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: He sees that it's a bunch of gold figurines. Quote.

480
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: I thought they were toys, he told Mark Seal of

481
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: Vanity Fair brass, And I can sell brass by the pound.

482
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: So he's just looking at So he starts moving the

483
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: boxes of oscars from the dumpster to his Coupe Deville.

484
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: He headed home, showed his son what he found. His

485
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: son starts like looking online to see, you know, how

486
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: much is this going to be worth? And then he

487
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: finds the whole story about the missing statuettes, and then

488
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: he found out that Roadway Express had a fifty dollar

489
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: reward come up. Yeah, so Willie got on the phone.

490
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: The first thing he did was called a local news

491
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: stations and tell him that he had the missing oscars.

492
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Then he called the cops. And so when Vanity Fair

493
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: asked him why he called the news station first, he said, quote,

494
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: a black man with that kind of stuff is automatically guilty.

495
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, you know, not to

496
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: call the l a p D. First, You call the

497
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: news cameras, you get them there, and then you call it.

498
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: In fact, so the cops roll up and he's standing

499
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: outside holding one of the oscars to like signal them

500
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: as to where he was. They drew their weapons on

501
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: had a gun, and then the news crew showed up

502
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: and everyone cooled out. Yeah, everyone cooled out because because

503
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: all those gold guns, people are always flashing. It's it's

504
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: a it's a tough world. So, um, Willie tells the

505
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: police officers where he found the boxes of oscars and

506
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: they said, all right, we need to take them all

507
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: back there and put them institute, and they helped him.

508
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, are they trying to recreate I guess.

509
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: So then they move them back. Then they take him

510
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: down to the station for interrogation, and um, he's like

511
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: interrogated for hours and hours and hours. Um. At the

512
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: end of it, they did, like they took him back

513
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: to the dumpster and then he had to like pose

514
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: for pictures next to the pile and the news crew

515
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: still there and they're filming him. He was like getting

516
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: his star turn after all these year. So this is

517
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: what Bruce Davis from the Academy said, quote, we were

518
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: under enormous pressure to wrap this up with a nice

519
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: pink bow and say, okay, Willie, here's the fifty thousand

520
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: from Roadway and here are the tickets to the show.

521
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: But the police were saying his story doesn't quite make sense. Oh,

522
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: like I said, he's interviewed for hours. He takes a

523
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: lie detector. Um. Willie told Vanity Fair quote, I haven't

524
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: been in trouble since the nineteen five Watts riots and

525
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything then except pick up a camera. Yeah,

526
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean this guy like he he hasn't he hasn't

527
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: done anything like so Roadway Express and the Academy there's

528
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: still not convinced that he wasn't involved. Somehow. So this

529
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: is what Karen there was a columnist in the l

530
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: A Times, Karen Griggsby Bates. This is what she said. Quote,

531
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: the retrieved oscars were still warm from the TVs crew

532
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: whose lights at the press conference where they'd been displayed

533
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: when the jokes began, all a variation on the same thing.

534
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: That's about the only way a brother is going to

535
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: get an oscar in Hollywood. She she puts that in

536
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: the paper, and then all these other people are starting

537
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: to pressure Roadway Expressed to pay up. They're like, this

538
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: is this is messed up. They got to give Willie

539
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: the fifty grand, and you got to invite him to

540
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: the ceremony. All this public pressure, Roadway Express finally gives

541
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: Willie the fifty grand. The Academy gave Willie two front

542
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: row seats, a tux and yeah, he gets a tuxedo

543
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: that fitted out. He said he wanted a top hat.

544
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: They're like fine, and he gets taken in a limo,

545
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing. He takes his son with him to

546
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: the Oscars. It was Hollywood's biggest night there. It's amazing, Elizabeth,

547
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: the stars, it was just so executives. They start coming

548
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: up to him. I'm talking about movie deals. You know,

549
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: maybe you could write a bo he got. He got

550
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: to see them hand out the statuettes that he rescued,

551
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: but actually not because the Academy didn't want to hand

552
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: out stolen goods. They were tainted. So what did they do?

553
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: They the duplicates got there in time. I thought they

554
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: went down to Hollywood, just in time. The duplicates arrived

555
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: and the Dumpster Awards were eventually destroyed, I guess because

556
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: they were filthy, right, except, of course the three that

557
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: got split off from the rest. Remember the two Jack

558
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: in the box and then the Mexican fellow. So one

559
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: of those was actually recovered in a Florida drug bust

560
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: in two thousand three, like the other two are still

561
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: in the wind Florida drus. This is like how like

562
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: cocaine bear moved across country. Yes, stolen oscars. Okay, so anyway,

563
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: Willie he gets fitted out, he goes to the Oscars.

564
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: It's such a great storybook ending like something right out

565
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: of Hollywood. I love the top. I hope he has

566
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: like a white tux. But then there's a twist like

567
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: something right out of Hollywood. Okay, remember Anthon Heart with

568
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: the clean sneakers. He gets released for lack of the

569
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: whizz um he gets he gets out of jail for

570
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: lack of evidence. Right, they just tossed the whole thing.

571
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: And then he hires a federal civil rights attorney named

572
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: Stephen Yagman. His attorney fills a twenty million dollar wrongful

573
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: arrest lawsuit and then it's against the Academy l ap

574
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: D Roadway Express. Yeah so um and then heart Like

575
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: and Yagman, they decide, we're going to tell you exactly

576
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: what happened. We're going to get to the bottom of this.

577
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: You can't solve it. We're going to So what about Willie, Like,

578
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: did he get an agent? Did he make it big

579
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: in the biz? He spent seventeen thousand dollars of his

580
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: reward money on Alexis, And did he want Alexis or justice?

581
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: He wanted Alexis. So the remainder of the money he

582
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: kept in a safe at the remainder of the money

583
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: he keeps in a safe at his house. And he

584
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: figured that happy exactly. Uh. He figures He's going to

585
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: go back to Mississippi, where the money would go further,

586
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: and get himself a nice home of his own, build

587
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: his own right. So he goes to Mississippi for a

588
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: month to scout things out. When he gets back, things

589
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: are bad. His house is trashed and the safe is gone. Yeah,

590
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: the only thing left was the giant novelty check from

591
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: the press conference. Right, So the development seemed awfully hinky

592
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: to the academy, to the cops, to Roadway Express, They're like,

593
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: did it really get stolen? Why would he make this up?

594
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: Then it gets worse for Willie because during discovery for

595
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Hart's trial, his civil rights trial, his lawyer found

596
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: a police report and the name on the report was

597
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: that of Willie's half brother, John, the one who had

598
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: driven out with him from Chicago. John's full name, John

599
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: Willie Harris. The garbage that's his, the garbage man is

600
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: his half brother. So John Willie Harris gets arrested for

601
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: receiving stolen property and accessory after the fact, and now

602
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Willie's getting looked at differently. Everyone's looking at him ling.

603
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the coincidences can only stretch. John swore he

604
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: hadn't talked to Willie in a couple of years, and

605
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: that they didn't even have each other's phone numbers. Right,

606
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: So Harris he gets three years probation for his part

607
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: in the heist, but no charges were ever filed against

608
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Willie Richard. Millard, Anthony's defense attorney was sure that there

609
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: was some connection between John and Willie. Yeah, I think

610
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: he said, quote if you believe he just coincidentally found

611
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: the oscars in an alley. I've got a piece of

612
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Bridge I'd like to sell you. Let me

613
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: find my wall, right, So hearts civil rights lawsuit that

614
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: was dismissed in two thousands six, By the way, they

615
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: found So. I don't know whatever happened to Willie. I've

616
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: tried to track it down, not successful, but yeah, probably

617
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: I hope. So Zaren, what's your ridiculous takeaway? Oh man,

618
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: this story? Uh, I think everything could have been saved

619
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: if they would have done what I keep saying, which is,

620
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: go down to Hollywood Boulevards by yourself, a couple of

621
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: those statuettes that are in the window. Nobody would know

622
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: the difference, hand them out, and then go get the

623
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: real ones that give them to them later on. I

624
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: don't see the big deal. But one again, I'm not

625
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: really one who would be like I didn't understand why

626
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: they wanted to melt them down when they have been tainted.

627
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't understand the taint of being stolen gold. It's

628
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: still the statue. What's the wouldn't it be like, cool,

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Speaker 1: lord this Titanicut. The awards ceremony saw the Titanic ones

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Speaker 1: were the ones that had been stolen. If I were

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Speaker 1: one of the stolen ones. I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 1: Actual artists, some of them would be into that. There's

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Speaker 1: a story behind now with the new I think they

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Speaker 1: put this in right after, like the next year. But

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Speaker 1: when they shipped the air tagged with Apple, well there,

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Speaker 1: now they go with armed guards via plane. They don't

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Speaker 1: go on the on the road. Yeah, exactly, everything armed

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Speaker 1: guard now. Yeah, so that was you know, I think

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Speaker 1: the whole thing was pretty ridiculous. Oh, it's hell ridiculous. Also,

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Speaker 1: the group of amateur criminals. I just love how everyone's

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Speaker 1: like as soon as we see it, I don't want

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Speaker 1: wants to wash their hands immediately. Well that's it. That's

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Speaker 1: all I have for you today, Elizabeth. What would your

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