WEBVTT - #261 - Ab-Soul 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.840 Boutlet Cavs show special guests in here my guy one 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.240 of the greatest rappers alive. His name's Absol. Welcome sir, 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.239 Thanks for it's been a long time. I miss you, man, 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:13.560 miss you too. Man. I feel like I want to say, like, 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.680 the last time I interviewed you, interviewed you was on 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.920 the back of a bus in Tampa, Florida or Tempe, Arizona, 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.079 one of those two places, and it was on the 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.360 Smokers Club tour. Mmm. I don't know, man, it was 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.600 a long time ago. With Joey. Yeah, we've had a 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.120 couple of like tour bus interviews for sure. We were 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.480 just talking about that too. Getting back on the road. Yeah, 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.320 good times. Explain to me because you were kind of 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:42.280 breaking down off the mic a bit. I can't imagine 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.600 like the high you get after it's been a while 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.559 since you've been on the road, but just to create 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.280 and put so much, you know, blood, sweat and here's 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:54.800 into your art and then hitting that stage literally literally, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.360 and then hitting the stage and just seeing the people 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.920 sing along, seeing the people react, seeing that people come 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.120 alive for you. What's that like, man, feeling the people 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:09.240 you know? I can't really but I see what you do. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.760 I'm not right, right, yeah, yeah, I'm not and you 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:14.720 can hear and we got yeah, we gotta get this 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.480 very clear. I'm not I'm legally blind. I'm not blind. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.600 Yeah you're yeh yeah, legally yeah yeah. But like I 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:27.360 was saying, like it's excuse me. That's one of the 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:31.759 main reasons why, like we took a while to drop 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:42.000 the album, like I said, so excuse me anyway, you know, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.080 we was gonna drop in twenty twenty, but you know, 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.200 the pandemic of course, and I wasn't just about to 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.640 drop an album just to stream, you know. I need 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.920 to go out and feel the effect, you know, feel 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.760 the people, touch the people, you know, shake hands, and 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.120 really feel the reception, you know what I'm saying. And 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.040 what Like, like I was saying, like it's performing for me. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.160 You know, Recording is one thing, like you know, write, 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:10.320 writing is writing. Creating is one thing is one is 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.600 one craft. Recording is another craft. Performing is a whole 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:19.959 other craft. So like like I was telling you, it's 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:25.680 kinetic like the performance the performance aspect because like you know, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.360 like I said, at least one time when I go 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.919 on tour, every time, it never feels I get dogs sick, 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.200 like I can't do it, and then Top calls like 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.120 you know, you're trying to get this money or what 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.960 you're gonna let the people down or what? Right? You know? 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.840 So you know, I suck it up, get on, get 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.600 on stage, and as soon as I get on, as 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.680 soon as I touch the stage, I am healed, no 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.720 matter what you're going through physically wherever, I am healed 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:01.359 completely because and I know it's it's a spiritual thing. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.840 It's a it's a kinetic thing for getting the energy 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:10.040 from the people and reciprocating it obviously, And as soon 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.360 as I step off of the stage, I'm back sick 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.320 right away, right away to the bus to go to sleep. Right. Yeah, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.320 So it's like, you know, you could call it a high, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:24.760 but I think it's more, it's more spiritual, it's more 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.000 it's more personal. You know what I'm saying. Would you 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.280 consider yourself to be a because I think there's a 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.200 difference between being a religious person and a spiritual person. Yeah, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.640 what a side of the pendulum do you swing on? 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:41.000 If any? I mean, there's a you know, it's there's 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.040 a there's a balance between the two because you know, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.680 I obviously, you know, grew up in the Christian Church. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.000 I am the black lived pastor, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:57.920 But you know, I do you know, I ask questions. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:02.120 I do, you know, study theology and I'm into it 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.800 all and you know, all of the messages are you know, 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:12.800 relative an essence? You know what I'm saying. So, you know, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.680 to answer your question, I'm just kind of in between, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.560 somewhere in between the two. Somewhere in between the two. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.839 But I mean, you know, I you know, I I 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:25.440 tell you I'm a Christian, right who asked questions. What 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.840 do you mean that's you're a Christian who also asked questions? Yeah, 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:33.240 a Christian who asked questions. Yeah, that's fair there. Yeah. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.719 I feel like I was kind of like more atheists 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.480 for a long time, but once I started doing a 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.200 lot of like heavy like psychedelics, it's just I'm just 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.000 more like I don't know now, you know. Yeah, that's 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.920 and that's what the wisest man knows. He knows nothing, 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.719 you know what I'm saying. And so it's like, and 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.760 it's crazy how atheists is such a that word is 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.240 just so strong, right, atheist, that's such a strong it's 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.200 a harsh word. If you just say say, yeah, that's crazy, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.359 people look at you like you say, I'm a Satanist. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.320 You might as well tell certain people there. Yeah, exactly right. 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.359 But yeah, but you know, like I said, man, do 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.440 what thou wilt? You know, Yeah, I definitely believe in aliens. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.240 So I mean, I don't even want to go here. Thing, 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.720 I ain't got enough time. Nobody if aliens are real? Right, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.120 So if they're real? If if if they so we're 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.440 doing that, I think they are. Okay, so do you 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.279 think they are? I'm not saying if are you saying 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.719 that they are? I've seen some ship man. But if 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:40.760 if we find out aliens are a thing, right, doesn't 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.800 that poke holes through a lot of the religions of 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:48.160 the world Or No? No, no, because if because when 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.560 you do the research, they're they're there, they're there, you know, 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:57.840 the serpent, the serpent that was the uh you know, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.599 that was the like they were there whole time. We 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.920 just didn't look at it through the proper lens. Yeah, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.760 it's just because they're very they're very poetic, you know, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.359 just and that's just the you know, the whole you know, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.719 the Christian Bible. They're all there. There, there's you know, 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.479 if you if you choose to, if you choose to 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.200 look at it, you choose to dig in. Yeah, they're 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:22.120 They're always there. There's always beings, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.719 like unexplainable beings that you know, this, this, and that 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.080 you know neph alone just all kind of Have you 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:35.680 ever witnessed the UFO? Yeah, and I give you this. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:43.280 UFO means what unidentified flying object? If you, if you 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.360 could be a Southwest if you, if you, if you 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:51.880 saw it, why isn't it? Why is it unidentified? Mm hmm. Yeah, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:53.880 I'm just on that, you know. You know what I'm 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.160 you know what I'm kid, I'm trying to play like 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.039 I've seen I've had a couple of UFO. Yeah, I mean, listen, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:08.159 it's crazy. Listen Strawberry Fields, shut up to the Beatles. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.680 Nothing is Real. That is a great song to eat 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.920 rooms on and listen to. Man, have you ever have 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.280 you ever ate trooms all listening to that song? Man, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:22.080 it's a fucking great song. I've been I've broke through 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.480 to the other side, putting many many times while listening 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.600 to the Beatles. Well, I mean that was a Pink 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.560 Floyd reference obviously, but yes to the Beatles. Also, you 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.760 know who's the best in my opinion if you're fucking 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:42.200 Shrewman Hard Tame and Paula. Bro, Wow, that's not You're 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:46.760 absolutely right, and that's more like that's more like the 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.520 d that's just like, you know, they got a song 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.120 called let It Happen. Yeah, yeah, oh my god, yeah. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.520 I love hours A time I was, I was at 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.320 a Joshua Tree of my wife and everybody does it 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.720 loves to go to well fucking you know, I guess 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.360 it's the la hips. The tree is the is, the 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.880 is the psychedelic. It's like the psychedelic Walmart. It's like 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.560 the commercial like we have to, we have to go 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.200 to Joshua Tree. We have to. You know. That's so 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.480 ill write that song on for two hours straight though, 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.440 I was like, this is the greatest song I've ever 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.080 heard in my life. 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Talk about 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.880 this new album, man, because it feels like probably, I mean, 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.280 it feels like one of the most personal bodies of work. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.480 I'm gonna start off by saying, that was such an 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:14.760 excellent segue from you know, the Extra Terrestrial to my 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.520 my most personal album. Yeah, I'm so honored to her. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:23.440 Thank you, of course. Man. This album is I mean, look, man, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:30.120 it was highly anticipated. I feel like, as somebody who's 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.880 been a fan of you for the last ten plus years, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.720 to me, this felt like your strongest body of work 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.800 and that's saying a lot because you've had so many 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.400 of those correct and you know, you know I also, 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.640 I also have a bone to pick with you because 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.760 I did not make your listen. But in your defense, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.760 I know what you're going to say. You know what 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.400 I'm gonna say. It's a little too late. It's like, no, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.880 I hadn't fully like, it wasn't enough time, you know, 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.200 I put the list together, right, Yeah, and then your 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.040 album dropped on the twenty first, right sixteenth sixteenth. Okay, Okay, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.960 so I did not fully like Live with your album. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.680 I listened to it on the plane once exactly, but 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.280 I didn't get to like Live No right exactly, So 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:20.280 I I kind of disqualified anything from the last release 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.520 from from December. No, Yeah, I get that. That's yeah, 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.000 That's why I said, I'm just just fucking around with you. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.600 But you know that means a lot coming from you 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.800 though that you know what I'm saying. I'll tell you this. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.480 When I do next year's list, I'm going to just 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.520 include the end of December as well, and you'll be 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.679 on there. Unless you know, some some some crazy might happen. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.200 You never know. I doubt it, but you know, that, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.040 you know, like I said, I appreciate that it was, 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.440 but that's my explanation for sure. It's truthful and I 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:53.000 believe it. Yeah, I believe it. And excellent list too, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.720 by the way, thanks man, excellent list. Yeah. Man, it's 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:01.880 it's really not it's just man like I went in. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:07.720 You know, my last album was very heavy on the ears. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.400 It was very dark, if you will, you know, I 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.840 just went I felt like I was, you know, just 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.960 going a little too left, a little you know, too 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.520 much Joshua Tree. I didn't wrong with that, you know 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.800 what I'm saying. But you know I took I took 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.840 like a year and a year and some change off 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.840 to you know, just you know, get back center. And 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:30.920 you know, I just kind of wanted to, you know, 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.720 go in, you know, and challenge myself. What I usually 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.080 do when I when I create, you know, I have 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.240 a concept. I go in with a concept because you know, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.320 I'm I'm old school. I'm all about more people did that. Yeah, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.880 I'm all about bodies of work. I grew up reading 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.360 Source magazine. I want five mics of course, so that's 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.800 my whole thing. Yeah, but what I did this time 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.280 was I just literally just I just went in and 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.679 worked and and and just let it and let it happen. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.439 I see where you're just tied everything together. Look at that. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:06.480 I can't stop so and and the you know, the 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:11.240 concept is kind of created. It's created itself. You know, 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.560 it just kind of if it was so personal, I was, 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.239 you know, it was very open, it was very vulnerable, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.600 you know, I'd like I didn't really I tried not 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.840 to listen to too much music, like on my own. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.600 You know, you can't you can't stop the music though, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:33.480 you know I can't, you know exactly. That was That 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.280 was my whole thing. So I wanted it to sound 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:44.800 like me. I really, really really you know, leaned on 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.360 my producers this time, and I didn't. I didn't more 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.520 so pig beats, you know, I you know, I'd let 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.000 them challenge me. Like, you know, one of the I 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.000 think it's like track three or four. I tweeted this, uh, 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:03.600 this beat switch up. It is fucking crazy. I forget that. Yeah, 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.160 we were just talking about that beat switch up. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.920 we had to because we had dropped. We had dropped 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.080 that was like the appetizer. We had dropped the first 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.360 version and so like you know, I wanted to do 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.520 something you know, special for the album, like just you 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:23.560 punch rapping exactly, you know what I'm saying. So you know, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:24.880 it was a lot of it was it was a 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.760 roller coaster, but like like I said, it means a 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.840 lot that you uh, you know, you enjoyed it. Yeah, man, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.080 I mean I think like being vulnerable is probably one 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.760 of the greatest qualities like the greats can have, you know. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:42.960 I think you know, if you even if you think 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.680 of someone like, oh, we don't look at it's like 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.720 the most vulnerable guy. He's had some pretty vulnerable moments 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.440 that we don't really you know, think about. But is 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.680 it hard? Was it because you got really personal on 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.000 this album? Was there ever like a point in time 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.720 where you're like, man, maybe you recorded some ship and 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.240 you question whether or not you like like it come 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.480 out or you know, because when you share your life 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.800 like that, Yeah, there's consequences, whether it's your family or 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.360 the greater circle. You know, just said that you don't 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.720 necessarily want because I'm sure when you record it's therapy 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.960 and then what comes out is something totally different, right, right, Yeah, right, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.400 I mean there's there, there are those moments, but you 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.360 know you gotta you know this name for the faint 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.440 of heart. You know, you gotta have courage, you gotta 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.160 be brave, you got you know, you gotta understand that. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.080 You know, I understand that. You know, my my testimony 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:40.800 can can can help. You know, we all just we 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.840 all just really want to know that we're not alone. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:48.600 Everybody's going through it, everybody's going through something, and you know, 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.280 I just you know, when I'm when I have those 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:58.760 moments where I feel like spent much. Man, my mom 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.920 might not need to hear this, you know, I just 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.320 remember that, you know it's just for you might help 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.680 a fan, I might help somebody else out you know 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.640 what I'm saying. And you know it's got to be 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.080 like an interesting burden to carry, like cause you kind 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.440 of have throughout your career talk to fans personally have 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.080 probably been like, yo, you help save my life or 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.800 yo literally and so when you literally when you're getting 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.000 ready to release music, you kind of know like, damn 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:29.080 this this can affect someone's path, right, Like I think 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.760 artists take that lightly sometimes yeah, for the good or 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.680 for the bad? Right, And I don't like I said, 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.280 like I always say, you know, like when people, when 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.120 I meet people, when they say, you know, man, you 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.960 don't even understand man, like you saved my life, and 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:48.440 I I'm I'm very serious, adamant about saying, no, you 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:53.640 saved mine, you know, by giving me a voice, by 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:58.240 by listening. Like so we go hand in hand. You 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.920 get what I'm saying, Yeah, one the other. It's a 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.240 very so you know, it's the reciprocity is very important 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.920 to me, you know, and I'm grateful. I appreciate it all. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.920 What I thought was dope was when you jumped on 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.240 Russ's Chomp project. Was it Chomp to you on Chump? Yeah? 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.400 Was it the second one? Chump one or two? Which 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.680 one was it? Was it twenty twenty one or twenty 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.600 twenty anyway, Well you were on one of the chumps. Yeah, 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.080 And I know Russ has always been like a huge 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.320 fan of yours. Any time I've ever talked to him, 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.120 he's always brought you up as like, you know, it's 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.600 my brother, the young legend man. Yeah, and like it's 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.800 funny because like he had shared some old dms or 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.480 he was hitting you up yeah, like twenty eleven. Yeah, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.280 like he used to like harass me on Twitter Yeah, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.119 that was so cool. And now you jumped on his 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.480 ship and then now he's on your ship. Like ye 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.120 talk about your relationship with a guy like Russ, who 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.320 I think is given a lot of free game to 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.280 a lot of artists out there. Yeah, he doesn't. He 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.719 doesn't keep the game behind the lock locked doors, right right. 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.360 I think some people might take his messaging the wrong way. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.359 I think he's a great guy. You know, I know, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.359 I know, I know he means well, I mean, you know, 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.320 he that's what he just he's just he's just a 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.760 free spirit for at heart, and he just he just 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:13.879 means well, I mean he's he's he's just trying to 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:20.040 be of service. But I just I think he's just 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:27.080 like the definition of dedication. He's the definition of dedication 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:32.520 and consistency. And you know, he's he's really you know, 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:37.280 he's very he's very skilled. He's very intuitive, you know 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:41.240 what I'm saying, Like, you know, and he could rap 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.320 his ass off. No, that's what I'm saying. Like he's 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.720 he's he's really skilled. So you know, and that's like 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.840 I said, man, that's that's it's the young legend and 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.880 like as somebody like you grew up when he read. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.199 When he reached out to me, I had like I 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:00.280 had kept hearing his name and I had and I 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.520 had heard his records, but I didn't you know, put 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.800 a face to it or you know, but you know, Uh. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.119 He reached out to Punch, and Punch sent me the 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.520 record and then I was like, oh, oh this is cool, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.199 Like would you like, should I do it? He was like, 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:19.320 oh yeah, I love his hustle. So I'm like, all right, yeah, cool. 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.000 So he gave me his number and then I reached 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:22.679 out to him and then we had to talk and 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.439 then he sent me like the old tweets. Yo, this 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.399 is crazy. So then I did my research. I'm like, 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:32.040 oh this is this guy. Oh wow, yeah, oh for sure. 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.879 So you know, yeah, shout out to I should say, 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.200 like coming from your roots, right, yeah, you used to 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.840 work at a record store. Yes, grew up in a 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.879 record store, had a crib in the record store, reading 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.120 Source magazine as a kid, caring about bodies of work. 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.720 You're a fan first, right, You could tell that about 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.960 how you wrap some of the people you work with. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:58.480 How much of like keeping your ear to the new 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.880 wave of what's going on on or discovering new artists 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:06.360 are you still doing because it's tough, right, It's tough 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:11.440 because it's a lot. But you know, I I just 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.240 kind of look at it as you know, if it 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:18.960 hits my desk, you know, yeah, that's when it hits 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.520 when it if it wants it hits my desk. You know, 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.600 it's something to consider, you know, And I just you know, 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.600 have mine. But but but like I said, I'm like, 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.439 I'm losing my I'm losing my opinion. I found myself 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.920 becoming a critic. And I just think as a as 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:39.240 an artist, as an artist, I don't think that's healthy 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:44.600 because you know, me being someone who can you know, 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:49.880 honestly say I've I've influenced a lot of great new artists, 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.720 you know, like Russ who would tell me that I'm 0:20:53.760 --> 0:21:01.119 you know I've influenced him. I can't. It's it's a 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:03.920 different I just found myself becoming a critic like who 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.080 you know, like called like oh that's wag you know 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:13.880 this and that. But it's like artists art, and it's 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.920 it's open for interpretation, is it's objective, it's it's it's 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:22.280 not for everybody, it's for who it's for. And I 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.320 mean these are just these are kids, these are these 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.440 are these are people, you know, just trying to make 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.040 something of themselves, man, just trying to trying to be successful, 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:38.119 trying to leave their mark on the world. So I'm 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:45.520 I'm practicing just you know, just being a listener versus Yeah, 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.000 I can't just and as an artist though, you know 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.800 what I'm saying. Now, See, you know, somebody like yourself, 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.480 you know, you kind of have that platform to you know, 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:59.600 hold those those discussions, right, which is warranted. Right, We 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.160 have to have that because it is you know, it's 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.239 competitive at the end of the day. It's it is 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.800 a sport, you know. Yeah, and it's the number one 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.399 genre music in the world, so exactly, so we're going 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.600 to have opinions. People are gonna, right, but I've just 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:17.359 founded as myself as an artist that could hinder my 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.639 my you know, I'm worried so much about how this 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:25.120 isn't good for the culture that I'm not focusing enough 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:29.000 on your shit, exactly. That's fair. Yeah, and then you 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.000 get bitter, and you know, you just I think it's 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.360 funny how like throughout our whole life, there's always been 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.680 like some version of like the real rap versus the 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.800 commercial ship. Yeah, and it just keeps like reinventing itself, 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.439 like error by era where it's like, you know, twenty 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.960 seventeen it was it's that SoundCloud mumble shit you know 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.080 what I say? Yeah, right, and it's like I just 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:58.360 feel like there's always this like conversation about like, oh, 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.200 that's that's that there's always a genre of a subgenre 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.080 of hip hop that's like easy to kind of write 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:07.160 off as like ey But at the end of the day, 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:11.960 if you can kind of understand, there's certain places for everything, 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.520 Like if I'm in the club, I love hearing all 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.280 this shit. You know what I'm saying exactly. There's a 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.119 time and a place for if I'm on a road trip, right, 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.080 you know, I mean I would love to listen to 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.159 Herbert exactly, so you know what I'm saying, Like, and 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.680 then you look at you know, like just twenty seventeen 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:32.399 mumble rap on SoundCloud. 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Have you 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:51.760 seen it where you could like tell it to write 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.680 you an essay or a song or whatever and it'll 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.400 write it within seconds, So you could be like write 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:02.720 a song about day on the bus and then it'll 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.600 just right like a or I know, I know they 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.720 have an AI for every for everything though, but I 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:13.880 mean that's just fucking sketch. That's that's not that's see. 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:21.000 Let's check this out. Man. Huh, you're not what a's 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.359 time to be alive. Would you buy a Tesla robot 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.760 for your house to like help you around, like you know, 0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.560 like maybe like a butler. I would not not a 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.560 Tesla one. No, No, I would not. I like I 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.840 like when I go when I go to stores, I 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:37.200 like to I like to I don't like to self 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.359 check out. I like to deal with people when I 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.240 when I talk on the phone, I asked for the operator, 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:47.560 I hit zero over and over representative, representative, customer, servicestmers operator. 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.119 I don't I like to deal with people. That's just 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.960 me and listen. No, for sure, that's the most frustrated 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.960 ship is when you call somebody, talk to a human 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.840 being about something. Yeah, you could use our self automated system. Yeah, 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.280 like I mean, and guess what you know, that's the future. 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:09.440 That's technology we can't can't hide from me, can't run 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.040 from it. But you know that's just me. Yeah, it's 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.080 fucking to me some of the ship they're talking about. Well, 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.240 how is it We've made all these movies that are 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.520 a warning of what happens if we go down this 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.879 path too much? Didn't nobody watch these fucking movies and 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.400 we're still turning this ship up? Like what is happening? 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.120 Like nobody saw a fucking Terminator or eye robot? Like 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.879 the fuck is going on with these people? You're not 0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:38.000 getting the neuralink chip? No, yeah, you think Elon could 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.600 be alien? They say, like Terminator was. I think Terminator 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.120 was the prequel of the Matrix. I think ship. I 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:48.400 didn't hear that. Looking at that now and watch all 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:54.400 of them in mind, go ahead, Yeah, I think if 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.120 we're talking about aliens, if anybody is kind of an alien, 0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:02.200 it's probably Elon Musk. Oh yeah, yeah he's an interesting cat. 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.000 Yeah yeah, Elon, if you're watching this, man, yeah, just 0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.479 I just I just need one B. Just give me 0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:12.160 one man, I just please, I rap really well. Check 0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.120 out my album. Wait what did you say you need 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.200 one B? What is that? A billion? Oh? A billion? Okay, 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.920 just just throw me one man. You got you got plenty, 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.880 just run, he said. He said a lot on Twitter. 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:29.000 Check out my new album, man, Herbert. It's out now. Man. 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.200 It's very personal, you know what I'm saying. I put 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.040 everything I had into it. I just need one billion, man. 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.880 Just look out for your boy. Man. Yo, when you 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:41.440 look back at like early TD days, I think back to, 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.360 like I think the first time I probably met you 0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:49.720 was it was probably like twenty ten. I was living 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:54.520 in Vegas and Kendrick had a show at a place 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:58.440 called the Forbes Lounge and you opened two dope boys 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.360 was there doing the expos on you guys. Shot to 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:07.640 my guy shaking those guys Mecca. But uh, it's just 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.200 it's just crazy to see and I remember you guys 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.600 were the first guys who, like, during the mixtape era, 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.920 was making me buy shit on iTunes. It was frustrating 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.600 as fuck, man, So like everybody's fucking apps. I was 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:19.600 calling it the mixtape and I gotta fucking go on 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.400 iTunes and spent twelve dollars on this fucking thing. Very 0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:27.640 smart obviously, but just like to see like what this 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:33.080 whole thing has become. Sometimes we like don't realize that 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.959 we're in it, and we don't sit back and appreciate 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.160 where we came from. I'm like that exactly because it's 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.600 like I don't like, I remember if I as a kid, 0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.080 if I if I could just make thirty grand a 0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.240 year doing radio, you'd have told me I made it. 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.160 I'd have been happy the rest of my life. So 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.120 I don't ever like go back too much and think 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.640 to myself, like, damn, like how far you came? Do 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.360 you ever do you ever like take the time to 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.680 appreciate the journey that it's been and how how you 0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.800 guys are like have shaped the culture. That's exactly what 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:05.000 this album is about. It's about like going it's nostalgic, 0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.840 It's about getting back to the root of it, Like, 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.959 you know, we did more with less. Let's getting back 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.560 to the foundation. Like that's why it's like simply called Herbert, 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.640 it's simply my name. It's simply about that, like what 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.400 it took to get to this point, Like, and I 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:29.360 felt like I was getting too far away from that. 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.800 You know, I was just becoming this you know, this 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:39.200 this this this character even you know, I was becoming 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:45.320 apps sold versus you know, this album is for This 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.120 album is for the people who will never call me 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:53.080 apps all that that I'm still Herb. I'm still I'm 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.479 still a little Herb. I'm still Herbert. It's for those people, 0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:01.760 and it just so happens to it's like, you know, 0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.800 you know of course, I mean, yeah exactly, because you know, 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:10.600 it's just about your foundation is everything. Man, the tree 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.440 grows from the bottom, and if you just if you 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:18.520 when you forget that and you you know, you get 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:25.080 too far away from that without acknowledging that, without you know, 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:30.440 appreciating that, right, you know, you could, you know you could, 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.360 you could lose you could lose yourself in this man, 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.480 very very easy. Yeah. And I think it's like sometimes 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.120 we do ourselves a disservice by not reflecting and not 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.720 yeah maybe once every few months, just sitting back and 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:48.760 just appreciating what you what you got exactly, yeah for sure. 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:53.800 And it's not it's not a because you could you could, 0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.880 You could you could easily like start what a should 0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:00.600 have cutting too, yeah for sure. And then and then 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.000 also looking at your peers and then being like, ah, man, 0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.640 you know I should, but but that's not it. It's 0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.440 just about like man, like, it's about just the just 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.480 the journey and just appreciating the journey and what it 0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:16.600 took to get here and you know, everybody that was 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:20.080 involved and you know everything that you know, It's just 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:25.680 it's you know, it's very important that we stay connected, 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.680 you know, to the to the bottom. Yep, you know 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.160 what I'm saying. And that's that's that's basically what the 0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.600 album is about. It's not it's not that deep this time, right, 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:40.040 you know, it's not. It's really not that deep this time. 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.400 It's just really about the last album a little deeper, 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:49.400 a little Jesus. Yeah, I took it to Cairo. It's hieroglyphic, 0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.520 you know what I'm saying. But I mean, you know, yeah, 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.280 it's a classic you know to me. But I mean, 0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.400 you know, but I'm saying, like, so this was me 0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:02.640 just trying to get back toself Man before before all 0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:07.080 of this stuff. You know, can you give me any 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.520 sort of insight because I know a lot of people, 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.799 you know, have already gotten over the fact that the 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.480 black hippie Album of Lores came and went. You know, 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:24.400 but how many songs or if any, were set aside 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.120 for this this detox of a dream that we all had. 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:31.640 It could be zero. It could be three. I don't 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.919 know how many, how many, like how many records were 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.279 like conservatively like, Okay, if we do this black hippie thing, 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.319 this is this is in that folder on that hard drug. 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.960 Well that's what I'm gonna say. That's why I say again, 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:47.200 we did more with less, so you know, I don't 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:53.680 want to you know, yeah, but fuck wack hippie man dumb. 0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.919 I'm the best rapper at all them that niggas can't 0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.279 rap with me, you know what I'm saying. I mean, 0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.480 we do know Q can owt golf you though, absolutely, 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.600 that's that's been that's been proven. Right. Yeah, he's a 0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:13.440 uh he's on that golf course. Jesus Christ. Has he 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.480 ever have you like gone like actually when he Have 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:22.560 you been golfing with him? No? Not yet. Yeah, he said, 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:25.440 I with your vision situation, I'd waste time. I was 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.720 gonna say, with your vision situation, is you going golfing 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.680 the safest thing? I mean, I know, I know you're 0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:33.960 not blind blind, but like I mean to say this, 0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.719 it's not a safety issue. He just was like, Bro, 0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:41.120 you be holding us up. I'm not gonna have you 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:42.680 out there. We're trying to you know what I mean, 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.960 Like he's like a fucking pronoun. He's really he really 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.359 does that ship. So that's just the whole thing. But 0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:49.880 like you know, I'm sure I get out there. Just 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.440 I've never like been on an actual golf course. Have 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.400 you been to Top Golf? I went to That's what 0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.080 I'm saying. You saw me on top school. Top golf 0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:59.960 is cool, But I'm saying, one day I want to 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.160 like go on the actual golf course and get in 0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.920 the cart the card, have some beers and you know, 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.480 shoot the ship, meet the meet the rich people. You know, 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.560 shoot the ship, meet the rich. You know what I'm saying. 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.680 That's great. You feel me join a country club? You know, 0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.000 I want to do the whole thing. I want to 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.160 do the whole dance. Man, give me a nice Omelet 0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.880 you know, those country clubs are expensive. That's what I'm saying. Man, 0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.600 give me a fifty dollars Omelet you know, I feel 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.560 like enjoy life. The only do you ever watch a 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.560 Curby enthusiasm? I love Kirby. It's my favorite show ever, 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.000 one of my favorite shows. The only thing I relate 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.640 to country club Ship is everything that him and Jeff 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.919 because they're always about that episode with the Swan. There's 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:46.439 a million episodes the Country Club. Man. If I get 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.680 like Larry David's age, I'm gonna join me at country 0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.480 club for sure. I'm gonna get wrapped up in a 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.279 bunch of old fucking politics with these old fucking people. Yeah, 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.560 it just looks great on the show. I can't wait 0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:02.480 till the next season. Oh, the last was amazing when 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:06.480 he was fucking that annoying politician lady bro. Yeah, it was. 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.759 Oh my god. Would you where would you rank? Like, 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.400 give me your top five like sitcoms, like or comedy. 0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:16.200 I can't. I'm just terrible with the top five. Just 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.600 give me five of your favorites. Now. No, we're not 0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:20.680 talking about dramas. We're not talking about the breaking bads 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.480 of the world with the sopranos. I'm talking about just 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:26.879 funny shows. Funny shows, man, Oh my god, I can't 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:31.880 do this with you. I seriously can't, man, because I'll 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.040 tell you this, Like after I watched Curb, that made 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.399 me go back and watch Seinfeld. Yeah, I was, I saw. 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.960 I watched Seinfeld first. I never I didn't get it. 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.359 I couldn't understand. I was younger obviously, But I mean 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.680 I never understood it until I saw a Curb. I 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:49.279 watched Curb, and then I went and watch Seinfeld's fucking brilliant. Yeah. Uh. 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.400 Then I watched for some like, for some reason, I 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:58.680 watched fucking Fraser. I love Fraser Solids funny as, which 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:03.279 was a off of years. Yeah, and then like, you know, 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.200 I'm just on I've been on that, like I've just 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.400 been on the like watching the old joints that you know, 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:16.360 you know, the Sopranos, Sopranos, Ray Donovan, Oh, Ray Donovan? 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.359 Is that I just I can't do that. I can't 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.560 do the face. But not a lot of people fuck 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.880 with Ray Donovan. That's Matt looks like Ray Donovan. By 0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:25.520 the way, I think that's just I think I think 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:31.239 it might be racist. Yeah, you're just told me all 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:34.680 white people look the same. And I'm looking at that 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.840 right now. He looked like Ray Donovans. Watch what you 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:39.200 get a good look at? Maybe if he gets a 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:43.279 good cut, watch it. Yeah, exactly, Ray Donovan was crazy. No, 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.279 but Sopranos, what about did you fuck with the wire? 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.279 Of course the Wires? I rewatched during the pandemic for 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:49.880 the first time in like ten years, and I was like, oh, 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.600 it's the go to me. Yeah, the wires, I got 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:56.320 the wire breaking bad sopranos. Those are my three on 0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.480 the funny ship though it's like Curby Enthusiasm and and 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.600 just everything else. Hey, we got to it's not the interview, 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.719 real quick to tell you about our family at Hard Dean. 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.719 That's right, Hard Dean, Las Vegas. The craziest dispensary in 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.680 the world, the number one dispensary in the United States, 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.960 let alone in Las Vegas. 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Shout out to my brother 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.759 Doe Burger Man, you know, long lived dough Burger. You 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.520 know I just lost him. We were literally we're literally 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.600 Huy and Riley from the Boone Dog. Wow. So you know, 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.319 I had to, man, I had to say that since 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:38.520 she said that I like New Girl on New Girl's good. 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.919 New Girl's funny as hell. Fucking do you ever watch 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.759 fis for Family? The Bill Burr shit, he's got to see. Yeah, 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:51.000 the cartoon, right, that was pretty funny, Happy endings. Yeah, 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.600 do you watch any stand up ship? Yeah, you're like, 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.399 who's like, like, like, what's I want to see? JB 0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:02.320 Smooth so bad Live. He's so funny. He's hilarious. Man, 0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.000 if you think about like his character is like so 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:10.200 iconic on TV. Oh bro bro that whole when they 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:13.279 had that fucking episode where he was like fixing ship 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.359 for people, he was like the handyman, but he really 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:16.600 didn't know what the fuck he was doing. About the 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.439 end of the episode, everything breaks that he fixed classic ship. 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.480 I always kind of consider you to be kind of 0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.640 like one of the like rap Jedies. Yeah, you know, 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:30.120 yeah I am when we talk about a Jedi. Yeah 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.080 was he I don't know. I wouldn't held the gun. No, 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:38.160 you're like Luke Skywalker mix Windle. I didn't get too 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:42.120 deep into Star Wars. Overrated franchise. Don't say that it's 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.920 a little overrated, don't say that it's good. I'm not 0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:49.240 saying that Star Wars, like Clone Wars, the cartoon series, 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.360 is the best thing that they ever put out. But 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.359 with that being said, who's in the club with you? Man? 0:41:55.000 --> 0:42:01.359 In your opinion, who's in that Jedi club? Wow? Mm 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:08.640 hm the Jedi Club Man, Jesus, I hate naming names, man, 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.359 I'm with the guys, man, and let's and let's do this. 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.600 Can we say that before you start naming names. I'm 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.440 gonna then I'm asking you this on the fly, so 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.880 you might leave some names off. I'm gonna leave some 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:29.880 names off. Man. I have to say, you know, Kendrick, 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.840 of course, man, he's but you know, me and Kendrick 0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:36.200 are Kenning ryu You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:40.520 Ken He's Ryo. Of course I have to say that. 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:44.279 I gotta give it the cold of course. Uh. You know, 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:51.759 I have to say Drake, but Drake, like it's like unfair. 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.560 He's kind of like a cheat, cheat code. He's a 0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.680 cheat cold, but he doesn't cheat. He does it. I mean, 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:04.040 I'm not doing it. Drake is Drake, Man, No, Drake's Drake. Drake, Drake, Drake, 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.160 He's Drake. I'm not gonna leave him out. You got 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:11.080 Big Sean killed, by the way killed that verse on 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:17.520 your house went went off, Joey badass of course, of course, Jed. 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:25.239 I love Jed, I love Chance, I love Uh, I 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:29.880 really love Mike Jenkins. Yo make his fire his fire 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:36.680 earl of course, Vince, of course, you know Jesus christ Man, 0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.759 the guys man. There's a lot, there's a lot of 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.520 Jedis out there. Man, I don't want to what about this. 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:45.680 I just got under an argument with my boy. We 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:49.319 were arguing about the two most underrated rappers ever and 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.440 the argument was between Black Thought and Sean Price Jesus 0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.279 christ Now, I said Sean Price because Black Thoughts got 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:58.080 the accolades of the roots, being on TV, Grammy, et cetera. 0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:00.880 Who do you think is the most underrated rapper of 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:07.240 all time? See your hip hop ad? Cannabis cannabis fuck, yeah, 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:11.200 but it's understood. Yeah, I had him on the show 0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:15.279 last year. Yeah, that's that's Cannabis is my fucking He's 0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:20.480 like the reason. But anyway, would you consideruen like one 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:24.960 one of the biggest influence, one of the biggest influences 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:28.680 and he knows this, like, yeah, two thousand BC was 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.600 I feel like was like a lot of people passed 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.719 over that project because and I loved even I love 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:40.560 cana n word. I battle you on a net, I 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.360 battle you in the flesh, battle you over the phone. 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.160 You could call me collect I battle you for the respect. 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.680 I battle you over a blank check. I battle you 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.920 with a gun on my neck. I battle you standing 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.520 over the toilet with my dick out. I battle you 0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:55.920 juggling a hand grenade with the pin out and the 0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.680 stolen car with the fan number ripped out, drinking again 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.919 in style, doing a three six the spin out shout 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:07.120 out to Cannabis. You guys ever worked together? We Yeah, 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.600 I mean he's a peculiar guy. Yeah, but you know 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:13.319 he's But like I said, yeah, no for sure, No, 0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:17.600 for sure. That's a great answer. By the way, this 0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.520 is definitely one of the most underrated rappers ever. Yeah, 0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:21.239 but I think it's like because he's kind of like 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.640 the lyrical spiritual miracle, Like when people say that, but 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.480 they're talking about like him, kind of they're talking about him, 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.960 but like the one that makes sense with it. But like, 0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.080 I think that he I think Cannabis got what he 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:36.080 wanted out of raph Yeah that's fair. I think he 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.319 got exactly what he wanted out of this. So how 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.680 long are we going to have to wait for another album? 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.279 Not long at all? Okay, I'm telling you it only 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:49.000 you know. I don't want to blame the pandemic want 0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:51.799 to blame. You know, I'm to blame. No one else 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:58.520 is to blame. Let's kill the let's kill the let's 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:02.560 notize the time and punch or holding our shelfing us 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.960 and all of that. Can we normalize? We do hear 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.160 that a lot. That's cool and they think it's cute, 0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:11.040 Like yeah, just let them blame us. Bro, Listen, this 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:15.279 is the game. Like we're really family. We don't we 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.960 put out We put out product that we all feel 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:23.160 is great because we all represent each other. And that's 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:26.000 just how it is. But if I want, if if 0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:30.640 I if I feel strong enough about anything, I have 0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:35.279 the creative control to do it. So let's just set 0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:39.400 that recond straight. So the narrative that because we hear it, 0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:41.600 it doesn't matter which artist we can name on the label, 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:43.719 if we wait, if the if it's too long before 0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.960 we get an album, the fans always say it's punch 0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.480 or it's top exactly. No, we're gonna get rid of 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:51.000 that narrative here. We're going to get rid of that 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.960 narrative here, please. And I'd like to point out you 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:57.120 guys have like quality control wise, probably like when we 0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.759 think of like artistic integrity, like the highest of any 0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.280 lap hop scene, and dream Vielles right behind you, closing 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.239 a great job of curating his roster and finding a 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:09.880 great artist. But absolutely with that like quality, it's not 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.600 Michael Waveable ship Like nah, that's That's what I'm saying, 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:18.200 because we all, I feel like, you know, luckily, I 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.560 think we all came in with the same premise. Like 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.439 we all like came in like you got to understand too, 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.200 like you know we could we're from like let's not 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.279 let's not get it twisted, bro, Like we're from La. Yeah. 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:34.000 We all enemies, Like we're not supposed to be friends, 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:39.080 none of us. That was our whole premise. Like we 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:42.560 came in like trying to you know, unite, unite and 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:48.080 try to you know dead the you know the the 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:51.399 generational you know curses, you know, try to try to 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.840 try to end this, you know this the cycle you 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.520 know that was. We came in with that premise and 0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:01.120 the fact just that alone, like aside from the you know, 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.640 the creative aspect that we you know, the chemistry that 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:07.960 we have, we came in with that same premise because 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:09.799 we are not supposed to be friends. We are all 0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:15.520 enemies politics, La politics, l a politics. 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I 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:45.400 do feel like too, you guys have kind of influenced 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:50.879 a new generation a LA artists whom aren't letting politics 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.440 get in the way of working together as maybe ten 0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.279 or twelve years ago that would have been the case. Now, 0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.720 not to say that because that still happens. It still happens. 0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:03.000 If it happens, it's because it's a real thing, and 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:07.600 we can't it's a real thing. Like Scott, I'm just saying, 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.839 like the new generation like they work together so much 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:13.759 more in LA, and I yeah, I feel like we 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.120 I feel like we set the stage for that to 0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.920 be possible. I can I can honestly say that with 0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:24.840 all you know, with the you know, with the utmost respect, 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.319 not trying to be like we started this ship. You know, 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:36.120 we we set the stage for that, you know that 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:39.959 that idea like you know, red and blue may green 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:43.399 like yeah, like put us we're brothers, like we all 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.680 fighting the same fight. Just happened to be born where 0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:47.560 we were born. Born, we were born, we're from where 0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.640 we're from. We did what we did. You know, this 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:53.719 happened to this happened. You know what I'm saying, My my, 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.359 my homie might have did this to your homie. My 0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.600 family member might have did this to your family member, 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.840 but this is us, and the cycle got to stop somewhere. 0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:11.759 Who's the second greatest rapper from Carson? Oh you're number one, 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:14.319 I'd say, well, I mean if I'm number one, then 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:18.040 we gotta gotta I mean, I gotta go rass Cast. 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:20.719 I was gonna say, because nature of the threat alone, 0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:23.640 it's like right exactly, so yeah, if we're gonna get it, 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:25.720 you know, so you see there you see the connection. 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.680 I mean was that because like I remember one time 0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:30.680 Razs cast walking, I literally did you know I did 0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.160 threatening nature? Like on my last I did that based 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:36.160 off nature. You know, we've had that talk and his 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.000 sons are fire. Bro, He's got those twins in the 0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:43.720 Contra Coast Contrast, and like I met them early because 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:45.880 I had you know, I had Teacher Moses on my 0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.719 last album too, and I didn't they I don't know 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.600 if they were rapping yet, but they she bought them 0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:54.160 there and they were just like flies on the wall. 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:55.800 Like I didn't even pay no attention because I was 0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:59.040 just a big fan of Teacher and that's when I 0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:01.160 had met them. And then just to see what they've 0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:05.440 become is like they're kind of like, Yo, I feel 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:09.360 like they give me remnants of because remember back in 0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:11.839 the day, man, we be a fan of somebody off 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.000 of a freestyle we got caster, Yeah, you'd be like, yo, 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:19.600 I got this Joe Budden freestyle or this what was 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.120 the stretching Bobido fucking freestyle from Big l the seven 0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.040 minute freestyle? You know shit like that. I feel like 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:27.120 the Coast Contra shit is like the new version of that, 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.120 because like, I'm gonna keep it real with you, bro, 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.200 I just said this, I don't care how anybody feels 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:35.759 about this Coast Country is like it's really the real 0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:41.320 black hippie Okay. I like that. Actually we could have 0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:45.000 switched names, like they should be Black Hippie and we 0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:49.080 should have been Coast Contra. It would have made more sense, Darren. 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:54.560 They're incredible, man, he don't act me. So new albums 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.920 before the next two years. You say, we get Ano 0:53:57.960 --> 0:53:59.839 another album in the next but by twenty twenty five, 0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:05.320 up we have another album. Yes, okay, tour midyear, summer spring, 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:10.160 very soon line lining it up as we speak, very soon. 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:13.560 Stay tuned, So new tour coming. Obviously you have not 0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.120 seen the fans for a while, so be on the 0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:17.799 lookout for that. Wait, please show up, please come out. 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:19.480 We're gonna have a great time. I got a lot 0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:21.680 of a lot of surprises, a lot of things in 0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:23.400 the store. It's going to be We're going to have 0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:29.640 a great time. Merches out, Merches Out. March is available. 0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.439 I think we got the vinyl. I think it still 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:33.759 might be some you know we you know, we make 0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:39.480 cassettes with the Walkman the Box, which is which is 0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.759 super super dope. You know, Like I said, you know, 0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:45.319 my first demo was on cassette. Like I come from that, 0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:49.680 Like two questions before you leave one. Yeah, you brought 0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.120 up the source earlier. What's an album that didn't get 0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:53.960 five mics? It should have got five mics. First one 0:54:53.960 --> 0:55:02.640 that comes to your head, I'll start Doggy Style. Doug 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:06.480 Style only got four and a half mikes. Fucking crazy. 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.200 I think what's the name Wayne? I don't think the 0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:15.759 Carter the first one, the first one they slided him. 0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:19.400 Yeahman Jr. Was my ship, Jesus christ I missed my dogs. 0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:21.840 Come on, oh man, I think they slided Wayne on 0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:27.000 the Carter. I think they had to rewrite the blueprint. 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.239 I don't think they gave the blueprint five mikes the 0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:31.200 first time. I think they had to. They didn't give 0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:34.080 reasonable doubt five mics. Yeah, they didn't give reasonable five mics. 0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:37.080 They didn't give but they went back and gave the 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.479 blueprint five. I remember that, though. I don't think thirty 0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.720 six Chambers got five mics. Jesus Christy what I'm saying? Yeah? 0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:44.520 So I mean I come from that airlight to where 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:48.560 it's like it mattered. Yeah it mattered. Yeah that Like seriously, 0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:52.239 the last thing, tell me about the craziest psychedelic trip 0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.680 you've ever been on. We will leave with a good 0:55:55.680 --> 0:56:01.120 trip story or a bad trip me I wish I 0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.360 could tell you who brought us the shrooms. That would 0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:06.840 be so fucking crazy, but I won't out of respect. 0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:12.440 I'll tell you off camera, random famous person bought your rooms. 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:21.080 It'll be so it'll be so crazy. Uh, Kim Kardashian shrooms, right, Yeah, 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:26.840 shout out to Kim. You know what I'm saying? How me? Uh, 0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.359 with all due respect, that was That was not she's single, man, No, 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:33.719 not even that. I just love Kim. She's just she's 0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.280 just dope. Kim is just dope. I didn't even mean it. 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:39.719 I didn't even mean she's just dope. Uh, what's her name? 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.520 Me and q dis shrooms together for the first time, 0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:46.919 and we were literally telepathic, like literally like you guys 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.880 were fucking on the same wave, like we were bugging 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.400 the funk out. And I was laying down on the 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.000 ground on my head. You can ask me, I swear 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:58.360 I would I buy on the ground like like almost 0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:04.759 like in the feet, right mm hmm. And then he 0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:07.400 asked me in his head, he said, bro, are we 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:11.040 mind bouncing right now? In his head? And I said, yes, 0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:14.399 we are, Bro. Stop you're tripping me the fuck out. 0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:16.960 And this is a true story. That's my that was 0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:20.320 my illess psychedelic experience. And you can ask him. That's amazing. 0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:23.240 Really happened. And then we went on to do an 0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:26.200 excellent show. Oh you guys did that before show, sir, 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:28.560 kudos to you. Was that like the best show ever? 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:33.520 I can't remember, but I have done. I have done 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:40.680 one excellent on my last tour, off off of the Yeah. 0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:44.040 See the thing is yeah. But before I go ahead, 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:51.080 before I continue, be careful, guys, you have to be careful. 0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:59.720 Please be careful. Microdoes first like listen, just just psychedelics 0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:04.400 are mind altering drug substance. Just be careful. You gotta 0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:06.520 be careful with anything to do with anything that you do. 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.280 Please be careful. I just want to be I need 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:13.320 to say that because I've kind of been. You've been 0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:15.560 on the part I've been. I'm the third eye guy. 0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.960 You've gotten to the edge of the cliff, dark side 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.840 of the moon. I'm I'm and I'm kinda I kind 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:25.600 of represent that for sure. That a right, which is 0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.280 not which I own. I'm not. I'm not saying that, 0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:31.040 but I just really want everyone to hear from me. 0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:33.480 You gotta be careful, be careful. You got to be 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:35.720 around the right people. You gotta be the environment, in 0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:39.280 the right environment, be safe, and and if you're gonna 0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.480 do d MT, be really in the right environment. Do 0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:47.200 it with intent. That's not these aren't. You don't do 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.720 sykes to get high. You do it with intent. You 0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:54.680 do it with intent to to to experience, to learn, 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:59.120 to to to gain, to get a message, to expand, 0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:03.640 to to send. Just I just want to make that clear, 0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:06.240 like we're not it's important. Yeah, it's important. We're not 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.120 doing it too because it's not get high. You do 0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:13.840 it for therapeuticgree therapeutic self discovery, self discovery for those 0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:15.960 that's I just want to make that clear. I'm like 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:17.919 some ship you do and go to the club even 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:21.040 never condone that exactly. I just want to make that clear, 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:23.240 just coming from me because I've you know, been kind 0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:25.200 of like a you have a lot of respect for 0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:27.240 that and what it can do for you, right, you know, 0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:28.840 people come up to me like, you know, I want 0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:32.720 to bring me Hey, man, eat this ship. Listen Tripballna. No, 0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.120 it's not that kind of party. I respect it, man, 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.360 We'll listen. Herbert is out some great body of work. 0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:41.200 Have fun, though, have fun. Yeah, that's just you know, 0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:45.240 a nice It comes along with it albums out man, 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:47.440 go support it. I appreciate the time, brother, appreciate you. 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:50.200 So my guys, Yes, sir Fire