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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. And well, in the span of five days, Matt,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: That changed a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Things have changed a little bit. They let things slip

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Speaker 2: away from them. Here's the thing. If you're a team

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Speaker 2: that plays to win in the margins, which is what

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Speaker 2: the Steelers were doing all season long.

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Speaker 3: You're excelling at Yeah, when you don't do that, this

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Speaker 3: is what happens one hundred. I mean, I think that

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Speaker 3: really shined true after the Arizona game. You mean, there

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Speaker 3: was a litany of self imposed errors, bad snaps, you know,

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Speaker 3: personnel penalties, obviously turnovers, and then it extended here and

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Speaker 3: especially if you don't get up early, I mean, if

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Speaker 3: you're coming from behind and your running game, which is

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Speaker 3: frankly what you do best is run the football. And

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Speaker 3: Belichick's no dummy, he knows that. I mean, oh, by

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Speaker 3: the way, and you get yourself in a bind and

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Speaker 3: it's really tough to get out of. And that's a

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Speaker 3: problematic situation. I mean it seems to me, whether over

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Speaker 3: these ten days or in the offseason, you might have

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Speaker 3: to examine how you play, you know, I mean some

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Speaker 3: of it's because that's all you can do at the time,

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Speaker 3: you know, and this.

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Speaker 2: Is one of the problems that you have when you

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Speaker 2: know you don't have the quote unquote franchise quarterback. Sure,

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Speaker 2: you know, a lot of teams have to live this way,

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons, no doubt. There's a lot of them

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Speaker 2: out there that live this way. And you can't afford

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Speaker 2: to make those mistakes. And you need you that. You know,

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Speaker 2: your defense has to be able to get stops. And

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Speaker 2: that was a New England team last night that had

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Speaker 2: been struggling in the red zone. Yeah about fifty and

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Speaker 2: you know, you give up two touchdowns in the red

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Speaker 2: zone and three touchdowns in the first quarter and a

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Speaker 2: half in that game, and now you're running, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're trailing on the entire game. I you know, I

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Speaker 2: get the players. You know, Cam Hayward talked about it

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Speaker 2: last night. Well, we can't give up a touchdown on

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Speaker 2: that short field. I mean, the balls returned to there's

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Speaker 2: an interception returned to the eleven chances are he's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna say, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But what you can't give up, really give up, is

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Speaker 2: the seventy five yard touchdown drive to open the game

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Speaker 2: against an offense is struggling, and then you get a

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Speaker 2: short ish punt but they're still at their own forty one,

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Speaker 2: and then you give up another touchdown on.

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Speaker 3: That, right. I mean, no matter who you're playing, it

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Speaker 3: could be the Chiefs or Bills or whoever. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this team's going to be in trouble when that's how

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Speaker 3: the script goes. I mean, there's just no way around that.

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Speaker 3: So when you do play close close to the margins,

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Speaker 3: your defense has to hold up play after play. They

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Speaker 3: can't forward any slips. And in this league, that's asking

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Speaker 3: a lot. And even having a dominant run game when

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Speaker 3: it's at its best is wonderful, but it doesn't produce

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Speaker 3: a lot of points in today's that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem when you play it that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you can run the ball really well,

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Speaker 3: control the flow of the game, be the more physical team,

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Speaker 3: but you probably don't have a lot of points on

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Speaker 3: the scoreboard, you know, And so that's what needs to

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Speaker 3: be evaluated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly does. And you know, the thing to

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Speaker 2: me is I thought New England had a good game

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Speaker 2: plan coming in where they weren't necessarily going to put

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Speaker 2: Bailey Zappie in a lot of third and long situations,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't do that. If you look at those

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Speaker 2: two touchdown drives, the lengthy ones, they had two third downs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they were ahead of the sticks all the time throughout that.

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Speaker 2: You were allowed to play that.

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Speaker 3: Way absolutely, with a little more aggression. And I thought

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Speaker 3: Zappi played really well. I'm not a believer. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's their answer.

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Speaker 2: He played well for about a quarter and a half, yes,

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Speaker 2: because there was after that it got it got a

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Speaker 3: I actually have the stats on it at home. He

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Speaker 3: got hit in the elbow and Pro Football Focus blamed

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Speaker 3: that that's not why it was. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: on his elbow. But from that point on is when

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Speaker 3: they sighted it, and that was like near the end

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Speaker 2: He didn't do anything after that, he didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Played really well for it came the first time they

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Speaker 2: sacked him. Yeah, it was pretty much everything kind of

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Speaker 2: changed then because before that he's had he had time

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Speaker 2: to sit back there and pat the football and make

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Speaker 2: throws down the field and a lot of what he

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Speaker 2: was doing. I mean, if you look at what their

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Speaker 3: Was all Elliott and Juju.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all Elliott in the flat.

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Speaker 2: And then he got run after the catch because apparently

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Speaker 2: they can't tackle the old man. I would say the

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Speaker 2: tackling was poor.

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Speaker 3: Again, I thought the tackling against Arizona was horrendous and

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Speaker 3: I didn't talk about that enough last week, but it

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Speaker 3: was bad. It was to blame a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, you know, overrunning the play and things

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Speaker 2: at angles.

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Speaker 3: I mean there was three or four times where they'd

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Speaker 3: throw him a ball in the flat and whoever the

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Speaker 3: guy coming from inside out would just overrun it and

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Speaker 3: Zeke would be like, I'll just take the inside yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, and just stroll for five more yards and

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Speaker 3: then it's second and one.

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Speaker 2: Right. He had seven catches for seventy two yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I give him all the credit in the world.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he is a professional.

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Speaker 2: Well he's probably a Hall of Famer, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: He's a professional that had to step up. He's the

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Speaker 3: only running back that played an offensive staff for them

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Speaker 3: last night. I mean Montgomery showed up and played some

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Speaker 3: running back, but no quote running backs even saw the field,

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Speaker 3: and he sucked it up for his teammate and he

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Speaker 3: played well great, so did Juju. But I threw out

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Speaker 3: on Twitter. I'm like, between the two of them, they

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Speaker 3: got like fifty four percent of their targets.

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Speaker 2: And one hundred and sixty two yards out of their

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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty receiving yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got some funny tweets back, like, well,

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Speaker 3: if this was twenty twenty, that'd be fined. But these

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Speaker 2: Their prime, you know.

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Speaker 3: That's that's all they had left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what the Steelers defense allowed to beat them.

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Speaker 2: To understand, especially early, you've been hit with the injuries

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Speaker 2: and they were trying to figure out early in the game,

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Speaker 2: you know, which which linebackers they should have out there,

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Speaker 2: because Landon Roberts will guess Landon Roberts went into that game.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it was gonna questionable with a with

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Speaker 2: a groin injury and ended up playing like eighty one

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Speaker 2: percent of the snaps because the other guys were bad.

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Speaker 2: Martinez was okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with a positive actually, I mean I'm a

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Speaker 3: bad analyst because I saw the inactives. Yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 3: think twice about Roberts not being on the an active list.

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Speaker 3: I just assumed he wasn't gonna play from the start,

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Speaker 3: and then he's out there. I'm like, oh, okay, good

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Speaker 3: and then problems it I mean, not him. He played

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Speaker 3: really well. He's been a revelation for really in his

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Speaker 3: soul Steeler career. But I do think to your point,

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Speaker 3: they kind of figured out Martinez is, at least last night,

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Speaker 3: was the best other option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he knows where he's supposed to be added.

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Speaker 3: Right, and Walker takes bad angles and doesn't run well,

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Speaker 3: and even his pick I was like, go you like,

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Speaker 3: he didn't seem like he could go anywhere, you know.

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Speaker 2: So if he scores there, that's a yeah. They win

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Speaker 2: the game and Diseke's credit he after that. Yeah, but no,

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Speaker 2: I mean a very disheartening loss. Nonetheless, but they're in

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Speaker 2: trouble and these are a brutal five days stretch in

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Speaker 2: the Steelers season.

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Speaker 3: I mean overall, I mean it's time to look in

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Speaker 3: the mirror and say, how can we get this better?

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Speaker 3: Because it's not gonna get easier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to pull a little uh what was

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Speaker 2: a network. I'm trying to think of the movie I'm

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Speaker 2: mad at We're mad as home.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to take it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it just you can't. I you can't

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Speaker 2: allow these things to snowball. And I thought they played

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Speaker 2: better last night, certainly better than they did against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I do too, I do too. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: thought Trubisky put the ball in Harm's way more than

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Speaker 3: you would like, more than this team can handle. But

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Speaker 3: he also scrambled here and there and that was useful,

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Speaker 3: and made a great touchdown throw to Deontae And you

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Speaker 3: know he's a little too up and down.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the problem. I mean, I thought, you know,

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Speaker 2: it struck me like Kenny Pickett sitting in the in

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Speaker 2: a box just on the other side of where I'm

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Speaker 2: there at one point I'm like, boy, they could sure

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Speaker 2: you this guy and that guy in this game, in

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Speaker 2: this particular game.

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Speaker 3: Protect the ball and they go winning for us in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: The fourth quarter, they had two shots at it, actually

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Speaker 2: they did and just didn't get it done. Now, some

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Speaker 3: I don't think any one's implying that the better team

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Speaker 3: didn't win. I mean, I think New England was a

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Speaker 3: better team, but there were some things that they I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know if it was a better team, they were better.

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Speaker 2: They were a better team for a quarter and.

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Speaker 3: A half, much for a quarter and a half.

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Speaker 2: For a quarter and a half, and I thought the

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Speaker 2: Steelers outplayed them from there on out.

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Speaker 3: I would say so. I would say so.

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Speaker 2: So I thought they were even as much as you

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Speaker 2: hate to say, they were evenly matched with what was

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 3: Last win team, right, I mean, that's not great.

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Speaker 2: It's not what you want to be against the two

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Speaker 2: win team. But I thought that was the case. But

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Speaker 2: that's been the case again all season long.

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Speaker 3: Season long against good teams, bad teams, whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, you kind of get them to play your style

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Speaker 2: of football. Well, the Patriots are that's what they want

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Speaker 2: to do as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is actually a pretty good matchup for them,

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Speaker 3: more than you think it through and especially things with

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Speaker 3: like Steeler blitz pickup hasn't been great and Patriots are

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Speaker 3: superb at that. Unpatriot like this year, they didn't hurt themselves.

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Speaker 3: They've been killing themselves with the year with turnovers and

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Speaker 3: things like that, but special teams, you made plays. I mean, boss,

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Speaker 3: it's a huge kick. You block a punt, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's just when you.

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Speaker 2: Block up, you block a punch, you usually win the game.

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Speaker 3: Usually win the game, right and without it, there's the

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Speaker 3: game's not that close at the end, but you know,

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Speaker 3: it's a huge play. I don't know. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: People didn't look at it this way at the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that game was sixteen to six and midway through

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Speaker 3: It is, it is, and it's it makes it tough.

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Speaker 2: You can't justet that overcome the slow starts. And that's

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Speaker 2: They didn't win the possession battle. Yeah, you gave up

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Speaker 2: the seventy five yard touchdown. You don't like to do that.

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Speaker 2: But the other touchdown drive is a fifty nine yarder

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Speaker 3: Yeah, eleven yarder.

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Speaker 2: He can't have those.

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Speaker 3: No, you can't have them. And Steelers red zone still

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Speaker 3: Couple of times exactly exactly, so maybe the turnovers don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the only reason he made the interception is because

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Speaker 3: It was an easy penalty, but I didn't think it

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Speaker 3: was a good decision by Mitch. Nonetheless, so he can't

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with him giving his guys

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Speaker 3: Where was it?

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Speaker 2: They're not a single back shoulder throw.

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Speaker 3: I know I have not watched the All twenty two,

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Speaker 3: the ball, but throwing the ball, you know, and but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know. So for example, the touchdown pass

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Speaker 2: zero Okay, I got my guy match up one on one.

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Speaker 3: So I want to address this now, So you brought

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Speaker 2: Ball here, right, I thought I thought the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I'm like, you get the two minute warning,

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Speaker 3: let's move on. They don't. They throw it, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's that's a mistake, whether you know tactically, and then

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Speaker 3: Belichick knows, I'm basically your last shot. I'm bringing my

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Speaker 3: And they didn't have a hot route answer. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you didn't give Mitch a choice of well, at least

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Speaker 2: I mean again, he was. I don't know if it

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I just know they have to have better answers

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Speaker 3: coming because you can't block everybody. Yeah, so that's problematic

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna get tons of it going forward and

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just I'm not saying they would have won. I'm just

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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean something to Friarmouth there real quick,

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Speaker 2: first down. Yeah, pick up the first down and keep

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Speaker 2: yourself alive. Don't make it. Uh, you know we're gonna

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Speaker 2: chuck one down the field that you get a fifteen

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Speaker 3: Been generous and throwing the flag.

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Speaker 2: Thrown a lot of flags, So don't which is more watchable? Both? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like there's no room to complain

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Speaker 2: But we've seen throughout the year. Yeah, no, I'm with you,

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Speaker 2: there aren't many penalties called. And that's the one that

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Speaker 3: It's the one is on the long snapper. It's kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get it. Uh So the Steelers said at

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Speaker 2: seven and six and they've basically got you know, it's

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Speaker 2: just eight days off here before they have which is good.

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Speaker 3: Some bumps, some bruises.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they could certainly stand to get a little more healthy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you get uh uh some guys back who've who've been.

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Speaker 3: Sitting right, I mean, who's to say, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what the Highsmith situation is, Benton got banged up, trying

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Speaker 3: to think who else? I mean, some of those guys

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Speaker 3: for a couple extra days you know, guys that were

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Speaker 2: Maybe you get Keanu Neil back for this next one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point too. It'd be useful just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could certainly use that.

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Speaker 3: I mean they I'd rather they picked on him than Walker,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh yeah, we'll see, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what got a little nicked up in that game? Serious

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then got another one shortly after. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Didn't look chips, some teeth or what you know, what's

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Speaker 3: The broken jaw, who knows. But he played great, But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was the one thing to me.

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Speaker 2: when when Ezekiel Elliott has eight they have twenty six

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Speaker 3: Back and none of them were downfield.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all sideways or just getting the ball quick,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you you know, would you.

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Speaker 3: It seemed like it was last night. I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: I mean, I I understand this. The Steelers getting up

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Speaker 2: he just made a play.

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Speaker 3: So did Steelers play well these past two weeks? Are

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Speaker 3: they in a bad place? They'd not and they are

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Speaker 3: in a bad place. But once in a while you

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Speaker 3: have to give McBride and Murray and Juju and somebody's

442
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Speaker 3: you know, they're on school. They do make plays and

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Speaker 3: they're proud players. I'm not excusing what happened to the

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Speaker 3: Steelers the last two weeks, but that's a perfect example.

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Speaker 3: Coverage was great. There's two guys hacking at the ball

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Speaker 3: while he's coming down making the catch and he made

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Speaker 3: the play. I mean, good for him that make is

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Speaker 3: that okay? That's what this league's all about. You got

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Speaker 3: to be better than the guy you're covering. I get it.

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Speaker 3: But it's a nice play by Juju too. Zeke played well.

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Speaker 2: No, you can't take that away from now. That being said,

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Speaker 2: the one third down conversion they had on the fifty

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Speaker 2: nine yard touchdown drive basically left Juju uncovered.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, that's unforgivable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, the coaching staff didn't draw it up that way.

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Speaker 3: And there's still mental errors here and there and some

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Speaker 3: procedural stuff that needs you know, isn't okay, no question,

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Speaker 3: and another complaint I have going back to you know,

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Speaker 3: I talked about those last two snaps, you know, third

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Speaker 3: and two, fourth and two. I thought the third quarter

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Speaker 3: they could have just played faster. You know, I don't

462
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Speaker 3: want to see some substa and you know, going in

463
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Speaker 3: the huddle, you're losing, you know, and this team's gonna

464
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Speaker 3: eat It felt like Belichick just wanted to eat clock

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Speaker 3: the whole time. I mean, so third quarter, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to see you walking in out of the huddle.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had you know, that first opening drive of

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Speaker 2: the second half took seven minutes off the clock, or

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Speaker 2: basically almost almost a half a quarter, and they got

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Speaker 2: no drive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, they moved the ball, they did some

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Speaker 3: good things, but the clock's just ticking and ticking and ticking,

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Speaker 3: and then you're taking timeouts, you know, not at the

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Speaker 3: end of the game, you know, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Seven minute drive. It was their longest drive of the game.

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Speaker 2: They get thirty two yards. Eyreyan eleven plays and got

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Speaker 2: thirty two yards and end up punting from the from

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Speaker 2: the forty nine. You talk about empty calories, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, you're just you just used up a quarter. You

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Speaker 3: have four half quarters left and you threw one away

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Speaker 3: basically thirty two yards. You know, you're not gonna win that.

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Speaker 2: Way because they just they had no offensive explosion, last,

484
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Speaker 2: nothing down the field until very late in the game.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yet the twenty five yard pass to Johnson

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Speaker 2: was their long play of the game, and Trubisky had

487
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Speaker 2: their longest run. Yeah maybe, yeah, it was fifteen yards.

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Speaker 2: They got a twelve yard run out of Austin. Then

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Speaker 2: they come back and try to run not the same

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Speaker 2: play but another end around, you know, kind of a

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Speaker 2: reverse there with Jaylen Warren, and that gets just completely

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Speaker 2: blown up, gets completely blown up. You know, you can't

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Speaker 2: go back to the well too often with that stuff,

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Speaker 2: but you know.

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Speaker 3: A lot of sideways stuff.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five yard pass to Johnson. Pickens long catch was

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Speaker 2: seven yards.

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Speaker 3: Seven yards. I mean, I'd be frustrated if I'm him too.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's expressing himself properly, right, but I

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Speaker 3: would be frustrated if I was him. Yeah, give me

501
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Speaker 3: the ball, at least give me a chance.

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Speaker 2: You know. Connor Hayward had a ten yard catch where

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Speaker 2: he has to like basically be Superman to get to

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Speaker 2: the first down. I thought, there's no way he's getting

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Speaker 2: a first down on that, and he'd guys, yeah, but

506
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Speaker 2: there was just nothing down the field before before They

507
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Speaker 2: hit the twenty one yarder to Alan Robinson late in

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Speaker 2: the game, and there was a fourteen yard dump over

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Speaker 2: the middle to Nogi Harris. Their other long catch was

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Speaker 2: twelve yards to Darnell Washington on a naked boot.

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Speaker 3: I think this is true, and again I should have

512
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Speaker 3: it in front of me. But none of their receivers

513
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Speaker 3: had over thirty five yards until fifteen seconds left in

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Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, you know, like they got better receivers

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Speaker 3: than that, They got more talent than that at all

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Speaker 3: their positions. It needs to be I. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: if you were here and there hitting a deep ball

518
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Speaker 3: or an intermediate one, maybe then the arning game opens

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Speaker 3: up a little you can maybe get back to that

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Speaker 3: a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't be doing both. They couldn't be stacking

522
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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and playing blanket coverage. And this

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Speaker 2: is not the eighty five Bears defense out there.

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Speaker 3: Like if you look at the box score, it's like, boy,

525
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Speaker 3: they must add Dion and mel Blunt knocking everybody down

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Speaker 3: and put nine in the box. You know, like they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Rough frustrating anyway, We're going to get to a break.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more right after This.

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Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: There, welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Matt.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I thought that was interesting that

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Speaker 2: came out of the the Patriots locker room yesterday, Jabriel

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Speaker 2: Peppers was asked about getting you know this win, He said,

539
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Speaker 2: we needed it. I just feel good we could get

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Speaker 2: it done for Bill and the rest of these coaches.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really like all the flak he's been taking

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Speaker 2: or getting because it's been on us players to all

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Speaker 2: go out and execute. I personally feel like the game

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Speaker 2: plan has been phenomenal weekend and week out, and when

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Speaker 2: we had opportunities to make plays, we didn't make them,

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Speaker 2: but we made enough tonight. Insert any number of the

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Speaker 2: Steelers saying that at any point this year in terms

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Speaker 2: of the execution the game plans. You know, you look

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Speaker 2: at this and we.

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Speaker 3: Coach must be frustrating.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this with with Belichick some you know

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Speaker 2: this short Obviously, Mike Tomlin's taking some slack or some

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Speaker 2: flak right now in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Part of the job, it's part of the job.

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Speaker 2: At but people, people, why do you always blame the

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Speaker 2: players and not the coaches If I see something that

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Speaker 2: the coaches did wrong. M for example, I didn't think.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like Mike Tomlin calling a timeout and then

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Speaker 2: going for it right.

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Speaker 3: Time management stuff I didn't think was good. Last that's

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Speaker 3: a bad decision.

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Speaker 2: Either you're going for it or you're not going for it.

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Speaker 2: But save the time out. But again, like the coaching

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Speaker 2: staff didn't tell the players, hey, don't cover juju on this.

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Speaker 3: Third No, I was thinking the same thing, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: now players got to play one of the things. And folks,

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Speaker 3: I'm not dodging that conversation. But from where we sit

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Speaker 3: as analysts, it's hard to tell what the players are

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Speaker 3: being coached to do. I don't know that it's.

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily tough. I see practices, yeah, you see. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we see training camp, PreCure, we see them going over

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Speaker 2: a lot of these things. You know, when when I say, oh,

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Speaker 2: we might see somebody other than a quarterback throw past

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Speaker 2: this week, I'm not just your button. No, I'm maybe

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Speaker 2: And honestly, I thought it might be with the with

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Speaker 2: the Patriots, but I thought either team could do it

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Speaker 2: this week because it was going to be that I forgot. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it was going to be a game where yards we're

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Speaker 2: going to be tough to come by, So maybe you

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Speaker 2: do try something a little different.

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Speaker 3: Steers of what ran, what to reverses, and then around

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Speaker 3: just trying to manufacture stuff.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to get something going somewhere. They're going to

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Speaker 2: bite on the run like that, then okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have somebody under the quarterback throw pass me.

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Speaker 3: The Browns did open the game with dtr and there

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Speaker 3: this guy needs all the help he can get. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna try to get cheap yards however we possibly can.

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Speaker 3: So that is good to hear from the Patriot locker room,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I'm sure the Steelers are feeling the

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Speaker 3: same way.

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Speaker 2: Even after I met Canada got fired. Yeah, and you

593
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Speaker 2: don't feel like we let him down.

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Speaker 3: And that's how it is. I mean, these guys spend

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Speaker 3: a lot of time together and oh, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Say how much time that coaches put into this.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they're going home early and dogging it.

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Speaker 3: And now you guys will be Finders rolled out.

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Speaker 2: There when that guy's in the building when you get there,

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Speaker 2: and then he is, his car is still there when

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Speaker 2: you leave. As a player, you're like, oh, coach coaches

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Speaker 2: here a long.

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Speaker 3: Time as he is kidding three days and yeah, and

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Speaker 3: you blow a coverage and he gets fired, you know whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the nature of the Beast. It's brutal.

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Speaker 3: Where are we going with this?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: I thought clock management was poor and in terms of

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Speaker 3: the flow of the game, I talked to the third quarter,

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Speaker 3: and I do think it's concerning that I hate I

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Speaker 3: hate this term. Coach didn't Coach X didn't have his

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Speaker 3: team ready for this game. They weren't sitting around eating

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Speaker 3: pizza and bonbonds. Now, I'm concerned that some of these

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Speaker 3: teams seem to come into these Steeler games with better

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Speaker 3: initial game plans. They're having more initial success than the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: at least that's what the results tell us. That's something

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Speaker 3: to examine, but not by me, you or anyone listening.

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Speaker 3: We don't know. You know, it's like their nose tackle shades,

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Speaker 3: or you know, two steps to the left so we're

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Speaker 3: going to run zone, or you.

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Speaker 2: Know, is it just well, the Steeler. You know, Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin's been there forever. We know exactly what to expect

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Speaker 2: out of the Steelers. They're going to come out and

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Speaker 2: they're going to try to do this. And because they

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Speaker 2: did this in twenty eleven and they haven't changed it

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Speaker 2: at all, we don't know if they if that's the

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Speaker 2: case or not.

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Speaker 3: We don't. I mean, I think there's a case to

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Speaker 3: be made that Belichick has had success against Tomlin and

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Speaker 3: probably knows things about him that ninety percent of the

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Speaker 3: coaches out there don't in terms of tendencies or whatnot.

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Speaker 3: But that's why he has three hundred wins.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's also a matter of saying, oh, well, Michael Walker's

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Speaker 2: out there on passing downs, let's go after like we

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Speaker 2: can get sometimes so we can get the ball to

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Speaker 2: Hunter Henry whenever we want to, or.

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Speaker 3: Trey mc bride. Yeah, right, exactly. That guy's not very good.

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Speaker 3: I've been watching tape all week on him.

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Speaker 2: Let's throw it at in, Let's throw it at him, and.

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Speaker 3: We could do what we can to mask it. But

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Speaker 3: eventually player X needs to cover somebody or get replaced,

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Speaker 3: and that's part of the problem. There's no doubt so,

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Speaker 3: I just.

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Speaker 2: You know, I understand that the head coach, the coaching staff,

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Speaker 2: the buck stops there. But the players got to play.

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Speaker 2: They got to make plays. When when you have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to either deflect the football or knock it away

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Speaker 2: from Juju Smith Schuster, you knock it away from him,

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Speaker 2: You take the football away, if that's you know. I

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Speaker 2: talked to a Landon Roberts after the game. The play

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Speaker 2: where he tipped the ball in the air that Michael

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Speaker 2: Walker intercepted, that was something he saw out there. He

654
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: said they had run that once before. Zappi threw like

655
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: a no look past he was he you know, he

656
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: never even looked to see if Juju was open. He

657
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: just turned and through it. So the next time I

658
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: saw that formation and they tried to do that, he

659
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: jumped it and he said, I tried to tip the

660
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: ball in the air. He said, I knew I wasn't

661
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: going to pick it off, but I could tip it

662
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: in the air and yeah, somebody else could could get it.

663
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: That's good football player. I mean, that's that's why you

664
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: want heady, smart linebackers that have just on the fly

665
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: or you know, learned tendencies quickly. I mean that's why

666
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: you last in the league, you know.

667
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: But it's a player making a play. Yeah yeah, Like

668
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: you could try to coach him up to do that, but.

669
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, you can push them the right direction.

670
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: I mean, they have these tendencies on third and eight,

671
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: they like to do this blah blah blah blah blah.

672
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: But he didn't do it.

673
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: Good luck.

674
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean you could.

675
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: You know, you can be in position to make the play,

676
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: but you have to take the reserve. You can't just

677
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: take the reservation. You have to fulfill the reservation.

678
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: And I would think this long week will be good

679
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 3: for the coaching staff too. I mean, you have new

680
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: people on offense in charge of things. Go home, relax

681
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: for a day and treat it like a mini buy

682
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: and do some self scouting. Are we having too many tendencies?

683
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: Is there a way to Is it taking us too

684
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: long to get the plays into that kind of thing right? Right?

685
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: Why we haven't proceived?

686
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: How do we streamline this?

687
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: How do we streamline this? Is there a portion of

688
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: the playbook we just need to throw away and start over,

689
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: or hey, do we not as worried about turning the

690
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: ball over Mitch is our guy. Tell them to get

691
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: out there and sling it. Yeah, and see whether we need.

692
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: To get the ball to George Pickens more down the field.

693
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: Do we need to Yes, But how do we need

694
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: to have, to your point, more hot routes?

695
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and blitz pick ups and things like that. People

696
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: are beating us with the same stuff. Tight ends are

697
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 3: having success. Why how Well, if it's just a factor

698
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: of we don't have good enough players, well that's gonna

699
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: be a problem. But what can we do to at

700
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: least stick our thumbs in the dam and not have

701
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: it flood you?

702
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: You know?

703
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all that stuff needs to be addressed.

704
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't.

705
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: And I have more difficult opponents.

706
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah what I what? I hear a lot of Now

707
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: those well, the Steelers should just lose out. They should

708
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: just lose the rest of their games and get a

709
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: better draft pick. That's a loser mentality.

710
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: People told the Patriots do that, right, that's not in

711
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: Belichick's DNA, that's not in Tomlin's DNA.

712
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do They're not going to do that.

713
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: They're not going to the Hall of Fame with that mentality.

714
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: And you don't want the team and wins.

715
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: Two more games and their fans will be mad. Yeah,

716
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: because with the seventh pick.

717
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: But you don't want your team to develop that mentality.

718
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: Oh, it's never okay.

719
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: It's never okay to lose. Never okay. And if you

720
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: start treating, you know, games like, oh, we don't want

721
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: to win this game.

722
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: We're just just.

723
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: Put this guy out there and see what he can do. No,

724
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: because that trickles down to your luck. You want to

725
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: talk about there's reasons why guys like George Pickens or

726
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson or Nausea Harris or you know some of

727
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: these guys are frustrated with this stuff. Oh yeah, because

728
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: they want to win.

729
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: They want to win. That's what everyone's there to do. Like,

730
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 3: I keep going back to Belichick because it's a weird

731
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: situation in Patriot history. But if deep down, if Kraft

732
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: had told him we have to lose this game, he

733
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: could have let it slip in the end and made

734
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: it look for.

735
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: That's what he's wondering out of Miami, right like, oh,

736
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: if you want me to lose?

737
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: Kidding never ever, ever, ever, it's not okay. And there's

738
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: no way Belichick would do something like that.

739
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: That flies against everything.

740
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: In three hundred wins of existence, everything I built just

741
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: to I'm not getting in the ring with Ali and

742
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: letting them beat the crap out of it.

743
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: And you know, right, the bottom line is the difference

744
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: between picking I don't know, the Steelers are sitting with

745
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: seven wins right now. The difference between picking thirteenth and

746
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: second and twenty second. There's not a great deal of difference.

747
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: Now, No, there isn't now ninety drafts and even I

748
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: keep going back to Patriots because they were picking second

749
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: before last night. Okay, maybe that's Drake may Well, that

750
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: may end up being Carson Wentz, Baker Mayfield, but you

751
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: know all these dudes that aren't that great.

752
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: You know, everybody always wants the unknown one.

753
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: Just give me that guy because he's much better.

754
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: Right. It's it's the same you know, people chanting for

755
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph last night during that game.

756
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me either.

757
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: These are the same fans, no offense people, But you're

758
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: the same fans out there who were chanting for Mason Rudolph,

759
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: who couldn't wait to get who were chanting for Duck Hodges.

760
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: Twenty nine ideas. Yeah, you're just changing.

761
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: You just want somebody different.

762
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were chanting for Canada to get let go.

763
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: You're just changing, You're just chanting for change. Yeah, it's

764
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: really an answer.

765
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: The change would be changing what you're doing on the

766
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: field and winning the you know, winning these games more conventionally.

767
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: I get it. We all want to see.

768
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: That chant don't throw interceptions or block better on first down,

769
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: or you know whatever, just chanting for change. To me,

770
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: I don't understand. It was very frustrating if Rudolph was

771
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: a rookie first round pick sitting there. I kind of

772
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: get it. You know, he's an unknown. We've spent a

773
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: lot on him. It's not like you've never seen Mason

774
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: Rudolph play football before.

775
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: And I'm you know, I like Mason Rudolf as much

776
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: as anybody too. But you know, at that point, you know,

777
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: Early didn't to be the one. Yeah Early in a

778
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: football game on a short week. You know, the guy

779
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: who's been taking the third string snaps all week or

780
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 2: as the scout team all week. You know, he got

781
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: you know, twenty five reps this week with the first

782
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: team offense in two days. In two days, like in

783
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: one of those days is.

784
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: A walk through like, no, go win the game for us. Yeah,

785
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not even fair to him.

786
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: He hasn't even played since the preseason. Least at least

787
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: Mitch had played you know some this season, and now

788
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: it took him some time to warm up to it.

789
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: He was far from perfect. That's not the point. But

790
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: just chanting for change doesn't make sense for me.

791
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: I I I really, look, I get it. Fans are fans,

792
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: but also know the situation. Like at one point, Alex

793
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: Heismith's laying on his back. The doctors are out there

794
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: working on him. He's he's obviously he's injured. He's on

795
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: his back, he's not moving, and fans start chanting for

796
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph. Yeah, like, that's not the time to do that.

797
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: That's not the time to do it.

798
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: His mom and dad are in the building. Yeah, and

799
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: you're chanting like you should you shouldn't you be a

800
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: little bit concerned for one of your best players laying

801
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: on the fields.

802
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: The foundational guy, a guy who gives his everything out there,

803
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: and even if he questions Alex high Smith's no and

804
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 3: he was missed. I mean, I mean, really nice to

805
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: play with him for the whole seat for the whole game.

806
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: He's had a tremendous year. Even if it's a fifty

807
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 3: third guy out there, I mean, who cares.

808
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter there's a guy down like show a

809
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: little common sense in that situation.

810
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 3: Just chanting for change makes me crazy.

811
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I get it. We're everybody's unhappy

812
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: with what's happening. The players are unhappy with what's happening

813
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: to field, the coaches are unhappy with.

814
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: Who could be happy?

815
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: Nobody happy to see this succept for the people who

816
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: want them to lose to get a better draft pick.

817
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: Now, if they lose out, they're still not going to

818
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: pick in the top ten, folks. No, so be careful

819
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: what you wish for, you know, I mean, that's that's

820
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: not really the answer.

821
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: So the idea is to turn this thing around, and

822
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: you know, if they can find a way.

823
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: You'll find some answers.

824
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: If they get they're they're not out of this thing.

825
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: No they're not. The fact that was an AFC loss

826
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: hurt dramatically.

827
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: But if you win, if you win three of your

828
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: final four games.

829
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: You'll be in.

830
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: You'll probably be in.

831
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: I mean, that looks like a steep task. With the

832
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: way they've played the last two days, I mean the

833
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: last two weeks. It absolutely does. But it doesn't mean

834
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: it's impossible.

835
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: But I saw again from from the middle of the

836
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: second quarter on, if they play like that, you'll be fine.

837
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: You'll be fine, You'll be fine, You'll you'll probably beat

838
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: you'll probably win these next two games.

839
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: But if you play it, that a good chance to anyway.

840
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you play like that for sixty minutes,

841
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: you just have to do it for sixty minutes. You

842
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: can't dig yourself a hole.

843
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: But the offensive passing game is still an anchor. I mean,

844
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: it's just not making enough plays. And I don't know

845
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: that it will all year. I don't know how you

846
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 3: address that in the offseason, but it needs to be.

847
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: We got these two good receivers in a really good

848
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: tight end. They need to end up with better numbers

849
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: every week.

850
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm with you.

851
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: It's just too much to a trend.

852
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: And again, I you know, I I tend to believe

853
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: that if Pickett had played that game last night, they

854
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: win it. If it goes similar to how it went

855
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: and you're down, if you're down three points and you

856
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: get the ball back with five minutes left.

857
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: He's showing the ability to do that.

858
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: And then you get another chance with two minutes left

859
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: and all he needs a field goal to tie it.

860
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: Let's how he needs anywhere in Bosland.

861
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, right and Boswalls. I mean he had a fifty

862
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: six yarder last night.

863
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: Like, I bet I'm not sure Picket makes that really

864
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 3: nice touchdown throat of Deonte, but I bet he puts

865
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: the ball in Harm's way three times less. Yeah, you

866
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: know you.

867
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: Don't throw the pickets, great, you probably don't throw the

868
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: interception he gets returned to the eleven.

869
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: And I do. I will one hundred percent, you know,

870
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: agree that four minute time or game on the line,

871
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: I'll take him over to Bisky's.

872
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: He's shown time and time again that he can do it.

873
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: And Mitch has shown the opposite throughout his career. I

874
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: mean he doesn't when the chips are down. He has

875
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: not come through where Pickett has.

876
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean you're trusting that it factor in

877
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: those situations. And again, that's how they're built to win,

878
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: that's how they're built to play. So yeah, rough, we'll

879
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: see when he's able to come back again. I'm not

880
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: writing this season off by any stretch. I've I've seen

881
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: plenty of bad losses in the thirty two years. I

882
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: could remember a super Bowl team, a Steelers super Bowl

883
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: team going to Philadelphia and getting beat fifteen to six

884
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 2: and Ben Roethlisberg got sacked nine times. Like that was awful. Awful.

885
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: They couldn't function on offense that day, couldn't function with

886
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame quarterback because they couldn't block anybody.

887
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: Wow. And that wasn't this man, It wasn't like this

888
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: guys he whipped. Yeah, you know, one on one matchup

889
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: over and over and over. I mean that to me

890
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: was not.

891
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: For maybe Darnell Washington. He had a rough day.

892
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: He had a rough day. Now, I will say, there's

893
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: probably not a better defense than the league get secure

894
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: in the edges, yeah, I mean that's just goes back

895
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: to McGuinness and Ray Bowl and those guys. But yeah,

896
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: he looked like a rookie out there. The tight ends

897
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: in general didn't do great blocking and they didn't get

898
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: any movement in the run game period and blocking.

899
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I mean, that's a Belichick defense staple. Yeah,

900
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: there's a reason why he had guys like Land and

901
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: Roberts on that defense absolutely downhill thumpers that that.

902
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: That's like, yeah, right, but then you gotta be more

903
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: top right, you have to be able to do that.

904
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: Then Pickens is probably one on one somewhere. Give him

905
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: throw the ball.

906
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: We talked about it last week or before the game, like,

907
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: I you know, I think Trubisky's got to throw the

908
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: ball down the field because they're going to stop the

909
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: running again, They're going to slow it down.

910
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: I thought the more success on the ground, but they

911
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: also got away from it a little bit when they

912
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 3: were down. But you have to attack one if they're

913
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: going to be that good against the run. I promise

914
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: you there's at least one good one on one matchup

915
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: every pass plus somewhere. I mean, whether it's Friarmouth on

916
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: a linebacker, Pickens one on one, Deontae on an out

917
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: route against a good corner or whatever, find it and

918
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: attack it.

919
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be able to do that.

920
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's parts lacking. Yeah, I mean really all year, we're.

921
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: Going to get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

922
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: I am Dale. You're listening to the drive here on

923
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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

924
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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here

935
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. With four games remaining

936
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: now on the schedule, we've seen thirteen games of this

937
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers team. There's seven and six got kind of

938
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: the mini by here.

939
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: We talked a little bit.

940
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: What would your priorities be focused on fixing here for

941
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: this for this stretch run.

942
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: Here would be suggestions. I mean again, I say what

943
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: you want about Matt Canada, but when he left, the

944
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: use of Jalen Warren went down. It's three games in

945
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: a row now and that's not a knock on nausey.

946
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: I mean, right before Canada was let go, I wrote

947
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 3: an article saying, Warren's better than all of you think

948
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: maybe he should even be the foundation of the offense

949
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: as not an every down guy, but let's up what

950
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: he's doing as a runner and receiver. I'm still in

951
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: that camp, and again that's not a knock on nause

952
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: but I don't want his usage going down. It seems

953
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: to be going down now. I don't know, I know.

954
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: I do know that Mason Cole is very good above

955
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: the neck and that's extremely extremely important at the center position.

956
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: And I don't know if Herbig's any better at long

957
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: or shotgun snaps or not, but he played really well

958
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: at guard. He's a tough, physical dude. I would consider

959
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: putting her Big as my starting center because I think

960
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 3: Cole's gonna need replaced in the offseason. I'm with you, Yeah,

961
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: And I don't know if her BIG's better, but I

962
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: like what I've seen from him as a guard. Yeah.

963
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: One weird thing, and this was Pro Football Focus and

964
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: it also kind of shows why I don't trust Pro

965
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: Football Focus. But Deontay's snaps went down last night at

966
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: the expense of Austin in running situations. So again, I'm

967
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: totally just regurgitating this from Pro Football Focus that I.

968
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: Read this morning.

969
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: For since Johnson's been back from injury, he's been on

970
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: the field about two thirds of their running plays. That's

971
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: about mormal. Nothing weird. Last night he was on the

972
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: field for twenty five percent of their running plays and

973
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: Austin was out there, which makes no sense at all.

974
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus logic is Austin's one of our best

975
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: graded run blockers about the wide receivers, and it made

976
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: me go, that's ridiculous. Come on, man, you can tell

977
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: you can tell me Deonta is not a good run blocker,

978
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: but don't tell me the guy that's as big as

979
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: my right leg is one of the best graded. If

980
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: it was, boykn I'd be like, I get it, Robinson, Yeah,

981
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: I get it. But if if it's a trend that

982
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: that was a one game thing, If Deonta is only

983
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: going to be on the field for passing plays, that's

984
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: not going to cut it now. So those are a

985
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: couple of things on offense that just come to mind

986
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: that I would consider in a short week one offense,

987
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: it's gotta be.

988
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do see some at this point, some tendencies

989
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: that you know, Okay, here come Boykin and Robinson and

990
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: yeah they're coming out on the now. They have thrown

991
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: some out.

992
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: Of that package.

993
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem with bringing those guys out there,

994
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: and know, Deontay Johnson, you really don't have the option.

995
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: Your biggest slow and you're gonna run.

996
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, even when you do drop back to pass, what

997
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: are you gaining out of it?

998
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: Exactly? Boykin's not going to run by anybody. I mean

999
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: if and then everyone's going to roll their coverage to Pickens,

1000
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: you know, if Deonta is not out there. So yeah,

1001
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: I think Boykin's a valuable Steeler and it's only seven

1002
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: or eight snaps a game, but he only comes out

1003
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: the block, right. And I still have mixed feelings about

1004
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: Robinson too. He plays so many snaps and he catches

1005
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: one ball a game, and this time it.

1006
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Was sort of downfield.

1007
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: But he's more of a I think he's too easy

1008
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 3: to play against too, which maybe that means more Austin,

1009
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: Maybe that means more twelve. One thing they flirted with

1010
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: last night, though they had eight snaps of Harris and

1011
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: Warren on the field together, and they've never had more

1012
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: than two.

1013
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind seeing that.

1014
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: That might be going back to my Warren thing and

1015
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: who's your fifth guy. I'm cool with that.

1016
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm more of that sore. If you could put

1017
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: that package out there, if.

1018
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 3: It's yeah instead a Boykin, Yeah yeah, yeah.

1019
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: If it's it's if Warren and Harris are out there

1020
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: with Pickens, Deonta and Deonta and yeah, yeah, all right,

1021
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: now now you get your five best weapons, right, that's

1022
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: who you want to have on the field.

1023
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: That's a good one to explore. I'm glad we kind

1024
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: of talked through that because maybe make that twelve snaps

1025
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: the game not too you know, last time it was some.

1026
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: Different things off of it, you know and slot. Yeah, yeah,

1027
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: well Harris can they still they can still go out

1028
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: Like every time nausey Harris catches the football, it's in

1029
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: the flat where he's got his back to the to

1030
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 2: the defense, or it's something over the middle where he's

1031
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: got his back to the defense. I've seen him catch

1032
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: the football. I know he can do. He's he can

1033
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: do some levy On Bell. He's not leve On Bell

1034
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 2: catching the ball, but he can do some of those things.

1035
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: They just haven't used it.

1036
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: His rookie year was the one, the COVID year right

1037
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: when it was at Hines Field. It wasn't at Latrobe,

1038
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: and I didn't see as much of that. But still

1039
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 3: I've studied him with no end and all you guys

1040
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: are report like you should see nausey catches, fadeball in

1041
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: the end zone with one. I mean that's he had

1042
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: all that coming out. Maybe we're just wrong and he

1043
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: doesn't translate the league.

1044
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 2: Think about the touchdown that he had in Baltimore last year,

1045
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: the game, the game winning touchdown. Right, he's running down

1046
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: the sidelines. Pikets throws the ball up and he goes

1047
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: up and gets it.

1048
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has an extreme thing, unbelievably long arms. He's

1049
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 3: got a stream catching hands, good hands, pretty good route

1050
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: runner for a heavier guy. I mean, as receivers be

1051
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: on a linebacker, he's to be on a linebacker. Like

1052
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: they've never explored that. I know he caught a million

1053
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: balls and Ben's last year, but they were from me

1054
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: to you, you know, I mean, they weren't routes. I'd

1055
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: love to see that.

1056
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to see just more usage of the running

1057
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: backs in the passing game period. More screens, yeah, more

1058
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: wheel routes, more down.

1059
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: How many times do we see wheel routes in camp?

1060
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: You know? Yeah it was McFarland or Warren usually because

1061
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: they're faster. But that's a hard thing to defend.

1062
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: Or even just that little you know, inside over the

1063
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: middle stuff people don't know. They don't use the middle

1064
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: of the field. Well, run the run the running back

1065
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: down the middle of the field a little bit and

1066
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: see if you know you can split the linebackers or

1067
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: something like that. Just attack differently if they're gonna if

1068
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: everybody you get through two receivers on the outside and

1069
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: they're getting you know something, somebody getting double covered, well

1070
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: there should be a void there.

1071
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I mean a huge complaint I had post

1072
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: Claypool trade last year was that means a lot of

1073
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 3: gentry and a lot of gunner. And I think I

1074
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: think the defense is thank you when those guys come out.

1075
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 3: And I'm I think Robinson's starting to fall into that mold,

1076
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: boykin is because the only blocks. I don't think any

1077
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: of the tight ends fit that mold though, you know,

1078
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: like I think they all have their role. And the

1079
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: more we talk through it. I think more pony might

1080
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 3: be great because then you get your five most explosive,

1081
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: scariest dudes out there.

1082
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a team that's struggling to score on offense,

1083
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: don't put slow guys out don't put slow guys out there.

1084
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: Put your best five guys out there and go. Now,

1085
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: you're not going to do it one hundred percent of

1086
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: the time. No, you're probably not going to do it

1087
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the time, but it should be twenty

1088
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: five percent of the time to stress the defense.

1089
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: And even if the foursome of Muth Johnson Pickens pick

1090
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: your favorite running back is out there eighty percent of

1091
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 3: the time and their fifth guy is maybe not Robinson

1092
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: but Washington, Hayward, whoever. That's always a revolving door. You

1093
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: need your best athletes out there. Yeah, I mean to

1094
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: help the most he can. And you mentioned it too.

1095
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: You can even go empty, especially a Trubisky. I mean,

1096
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: if he's in the shotgun, that doesn't mean he's not

1097
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: running right.

1098
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: They're going to clear the middle of the field out

1099
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: and he sees an opening, he can get your fifteen

1100
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: yards quickly.

1101
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: So defensively, assuming he is the mind for which it

1102
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: sounds like he always has in his career. I think

1103
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: you go to Roberts and Martinez and say, you're our linebacker.

1104
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: You're the guys.

1105
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: We're not going to long as you can hold up. Yeah,

1106
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: you are, guys, because nobody else can do it. I

1107
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: mean Mark Robinson might not be an NFL player, folks,

1108
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: I mean he may be the last of him. I

1109
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: think we've seen enough of Walker experiment that at least, hey,

1110
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: you two know what to do. Maybe you're a step slow,

1111
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: but you're our linebackers.

1112
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you get Keanu O'Neil back, then maybe

1113
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: you can he can be He could be your dime.

1114
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's logical. I don't blame them for this,

1115
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: But awful luck with the day that Golden's inactive, you.

1116
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: Know, like well, I mean they had to have so

1117
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: many of the inside backers active, that's it. And because

1118
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: then you also didn't have James Pierre active. Now you

1119
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: lost one of your core special teams guys, and Golden

1120
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: doesn't play any specials special teams. Yeah.

1121
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: I didn't put the logic together with Pierre two, but yeah,

1122
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: you need one more special team or and you didn't

1123
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: know Hi Smith is gonna be out for the game,

1124
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: but they going forward, their four outside linebackers are all

1125
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 3: going to dress. Yeah, I'm sure that and that helps

1126
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: if you figure out the inside linebacker things. Hey Mark Robinson,

1127
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: you're not active, or Walker you're not active or whatever.

1128
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Robinson's of course special. Teams guys, well

1129
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: he's going to be out there. But yeah, I mean

1130
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: it's it's tough when you have a liability like that.

1131
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: Teams are going to pick on it. They just are.

1132
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 3: They just are. I do like the d lineman though,

1133
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: Like I keep looking at Watts and Adams and think

1134
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: those guys are quality players. I thought Ogin Joby's got

1135
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 3: a little overextended and snap counts again, I'd like to

1136
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: keep him down a smidge. But I think Peterson and

1137
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 3: Porter are playing well.

1138
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 2: I think yeah. I mean, I Peterson any credit after

1139
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: the you know, a slow start, I think he's been excellent.

1140
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: He's been excellent. I mean it's been six, seven, eight

1141
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: weeks now that he's been a play for You're not

1142
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: a negative. Yeah, and Porter has been great. So I

1143
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: don't know that to do wholesale changes on defense, I mean,

1144
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: if you could do your two linebackers and Neil, you

1145
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: might be our dime. It's a lot better. It's bad.

1146
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it covers up then some of

1147
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: your issues. At least.

1148
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: It's just you know where to be and you take

1149
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: proper leverage on tackles and maybe you're not making huge

1150
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: splash plays.

1151
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: But you know the other thing is, you know you

1152
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: can't continue to do what you've been doing. You can't

1153
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: ask a guy like Michael Walker to play like Cole Holk,

1154
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: right right, they're not. They're not the same player.

1155
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: Same not same. No, they're all going to have to

1156
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: have their niches.

1157
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're they're trying to do that. They're trying

1158
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: to figure out what these guys can and can't do.

1159
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: But they're doing it on the fly. And I think now,

1160
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: I think now you've kind of figured this out, and

1161
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: that ain't it. Yeah, that's not going to work. You

1162
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: just go with your best guys. You got four games left.

1163
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: You mentioned this off the air, and I don't mean

1164
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: to speak for you, but they had five inside linebackers

1165
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: dress because we kind of have to find out on

1166
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: the fly which ones it is feasible, and it seemed

1167
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: like they did, but it was late to him and

1168
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: there was a lot of damage done by the time

1169
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 3: that happened.

1170
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: And you know people might wonder, well, you know why

1171
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: then wasn't Miles Jack active? He might still be. He's

1172
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: still getting himself in the football show.

1173
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 3: Can he play sixty snaps? Can he play twenty snaps?

1174
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: I mean, that's one more guy you got to coach

1175
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: up to. Like, how much you're gonna he's not going

1176
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: to play special teams? True? True? I mean how much

1177
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna ask how you're inside linebacker coach? Yeah, you

1178
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: only have so many hours a day to coach these

1179
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: guys up for a game in two days.

1180
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that becomes Then the problem is you're not gonna

1181
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: ask Blake Martinez isn't going to run down and cover kicks.

1182
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: Presumably at this point Atlanta Roberts says, you know he's

1183
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: done it in the past, but you're not gonna ask

1184
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: him to do because you don't want to get him hurt.

1185
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: I hain't thought of the Pierre angle, and you can't

1186
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: do it with Miles Jack.

1187
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and you need those backups to do it.

1188
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not sure if Robinson's good at it, but

1189
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: he's doing it. He's doing it.

1190
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and Pierre is important that way. Yeah.

1191
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, We're gonna get through another break. He is Matt Williamson,

1192
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. That's going to do it for

1193
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: our number one. We will be back with our number two.

1194
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: Time for the Fantasy Football Focus. We got to build

1195
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: our DFS lineup for Sunday's games. We'll do that right

1196
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: after this