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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome in Texans All Access from the Hyundai Texans

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Speaker 2: Radio Studio. Yes, back in house tonight after our wonderful

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Speaker 2: remote last night out at BMW West Houston. It was

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Speaker 2: great John Harris alongside the Voice that Texans, Mark vandermer Mark.

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Speaker 1: I was hell of event last night.

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Speaker 3: I was fun.

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Speaker 1: That was fun.

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Speaker 4: It was fun to see a lot of the people

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Speaker 4: who used to come to a lot of the old

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Speaker 4: shows when we were out old, when we were out

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Speaker 4: before COVID out every week, and we're gonna get out more.

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Speaker 4: I think we'll do some stuff in the team shop,

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Speaker 4: We'll do some stuff out and about. It was great

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Speaker 4: to be at BMW. Will be out more places. It's

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Speaker 4: good to go out and be with the peeps, with

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Speaker 4: the Texans fans. Everybody fired up for the draft. Two

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Speaker 4: weeks from Thursday. Two weeks from tomorrow, Johnny, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks from tomorrow, Avenita's downtown.

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Speaker 1: Come find us. It's going to be unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you and I need to talk about parking

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Speaker 2: now we get down there that night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we might need some help. We'll park somewhere, yeah, well.

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Speaker 2: Somewhere in the vicinity and then walk over to the stage.

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Speaker 2: Draft is gonna be fun. Texans do not pick until

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Speaker 2: pick number twenty five. We've talked about that a bunch,

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Speaker 2: but on tonight's show, we're gonna have in the labs

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Speaker 2: mock draft. Ooh, we ended up with the player. There

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Speaker 2: are two players that I have said, Mark, and you'll

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Speaker 2: hear this in the lab. There are two players that

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Speaker 2: get the Vonte mac no matter what status for me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, two players. You'll reveal that later. Reveal that later,

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Speaker 4: So Vonte Mack no matter what status. That's the first

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Speaker 4: of the movie Draft Day, Yes, which you watch every

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Speaker 4: year around the draft.

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Speaker 2: As not as a guide, but just as an entertaining

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Speaker 2: way to kill time before I have to drive to

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Speaker 2: the draft. That's what I did. My first draft with

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Speaker 2: you was twenty fourteen. Yeah, and we did it in

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Speaker 2: I think we were in the North We were in

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Speaker 2: the North End zone area, Yeah, and drafted start till seven.

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Speaker 2: Had to kind of kill time, and at that point,

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Speaker 2: I believe Draft Day was actually out in the theater.

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Speaker 1: I think I went to the theater. I think that

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Speaker 1: was the first year, right, Yeah, And I went.

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Speaker 2: To the theater and watched Draft Day and I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is cool and it was a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: Dviian Clowney, C. J.

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Speaker 2: Norwich, Andre Howe drafted a lot of great names, a

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Speaker 2: lot of great guys are drafted, and I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I like this. I think I'm going to do this

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Speaker 2: for now on. So that's become my draft day thing

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Speaker 2: to do. Well, that movie ritual. Look, it's no moneyball.

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Speaker 2: It tries to be, but it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 4: And if you let it go, which I have to,

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Speaker 4: and treat it like this is really taking place over

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Speaker 4: three four months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because in the course of a day I always

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Speaker 4: make fun of who's got the number four pick. He's

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Speaker 4: asking like you need to ask this, right, hey, GM,

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Speaker 4: You've been spending way too much time with Jennifer Garner

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Speaker 4: in that closet, so you should know these things right

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Speaker 4: off the top of your head. I mean, this is

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Speaker 4: who's the general manager in Jacksonville at young guy, It's like,

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Speaker 4: are you even working?

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Speaker 1: Costner? Like, do you even work here?

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Speaker 4: This is not a part time job, your GM of

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Speaker 4: a football team. Well, that's the question you would ask,

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Speaker 4: Like if he's just getting high.

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Speaker 1: Even then you would know if you're a GM.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it would be one of the reasons why

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Speaker 2: they're drafting at number seven because he doesn't know who

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Speaker 2: the gms are in the league. I still, I still,

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Speaker 2: We've got to talk to Omar about this. We've got

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Speaker 2: to make this happen. We've got to play two to

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Speaker 2: three minute clips with Nick and just see his reaction

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Speaker 2: to some of the things in Draft Day.

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Speaker 1: That would be so good. I mean, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: We have a lot of things for Nick to do,

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Speaker 4: like his Tariffs podcast. I don't know if that's ever

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Speaker 4: gonna happen, the Draft Day podcast, don't know if that's

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Speaker 4: ever gonna happen. These things will probably never happen, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Fun to talk about because I think Nick doing a

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Speaker 2: Like the Chargers did that with Tom Telasco. They watched

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Speaker 1: Face, like what what what? What's that? So there's some parts, but.

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Speaker 4: Still watching film on Callahan the night of the draft,

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Speaker 4: while the draft is going on.

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Speaker 2: You make the trade for number one in the morning

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Speaker 2: and then walk in your draft room and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we need a scouting report basically if this guy.

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Speaker 4: Over the next Because I haven't been working at all,

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what you.

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Speaker 2: Guys do, haven't done anything, but yeah, we're gonna look

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Speaker 2: at so Ju and I'll have a mock draft a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on number twenty five. Where do you think?

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Speaker 2: What do you think we did at number twenty five?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we traded or do you think we

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Speaker 2: uh we stick a pick? What number mock draft is

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Speaker 2: this for you guys? I think it's probably number four?

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Speaker 1: Okay, five? You probably did all sorts.

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Speaker 2: Of weird stuff, I'll be honest, not really, really honestly not.

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Speaker 1: Because we didn't. We didn't get wacky.

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Speaker 4: I was listening to Jim Miller and Pat Curling on

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Speaker 4: the way back from the show last night NFL Radio.

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Speaker 4: It's late and Area forty five was in a break.

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Speaker 4: I flicked over to them and they they have done

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Speaker 4: I think this is their second one, and they were

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Speaker 4: ye that they were paying to their mock draft. Well,

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Speaker 4: Pats said, well, what the Steelers, you know, I figured

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Speaker 4: this and that and the other thing. And he's going,

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Speaker 4: he traded the pick and he did all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, and the Steelers fans are calling in

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Speaker 4: because they're freaking out. Like, guys, you understand, a mock

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Speaker 4: draft means pretend right, this is not the real draft,

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Speaker 4: So don't freak out over what they do.

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Speaker 1: How could you do this? Right?

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Speaker 4: You know, he doesn't really have his hand at the

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Speaker 4: your fourth Marck draft, probably traded the pick.

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Speaker 1: So we'll find out later on the show.

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Speaker 2: You will find out, Okay, I'll put it this way,

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Speaker 2: Vonte mac No matter what.

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Speaker 4: No matter where, irrelevant, Okay, if he's very no matter

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Speaker 4: what player is there, obviously you take him. If you

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Speaker 4: snatch him, you trade up. Those things are always tricky.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were talking about this last night. Rick

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Speaker 4: Smith moving up what twelve's no. Fifteen spots to take no.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen spots in spots to take to Shaun Watson, which

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Speaker 4: was huge, but the year before it took Will Fuller,

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Speaker 4: moving up one spot Washington. So they flipped picks with

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Speaker 4: Washington who took Dotson.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't remember who Washington took, but I think

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Speaker 2: it was a receiver. If I remember was a receiver,

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Speaker 2: So they flipped picks. Why did they need to if

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Speaker 2: Washington wanted Fuller? Did they threaten to take Fuller?

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Speaker 4: I have a feeling Washington called Rick or they talked,

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Speaker 4: move up, and they want to take Fuller, So what

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Speaker 4: To which point, if I was Rick, I might have said, well,

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Speaker 4: why wouldn't you take their deal? Are you just doing

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Speaker 4: me a solid? Because I got to imagine whatever they're

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Speaker 4: offering you is more than what I'm about to now.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he offered them more to make sure he got

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think these are the stories I'd love to hear

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Speaker 4: the stories I never hear. I think you can absolutely

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Speaker 4: going in circles because you sit there and go, Okay, well,

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Speaker 4: Washington's willing to do this deal, but why are they

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Speaker 4: willing to do that deal?

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Speaker 2: Are they willing to do that deal because they don't

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Speaker 2: or why do we like Fuller? Do we really want

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Speaker 2: the team that's drafting doesn't even want. But we really

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Speaker 2: got four three. So you just start going in circles,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine in your mind, and you have to

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Speaker 1: How do we feel about this?

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Speaker 2: And then come to a collective decision and then finally

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Speaker 2: for Fuller it ended up working out really really well.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember who the receiver was for Washington.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you in a second.

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Speaker 4: It makes me I'm pulling it up right now because

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Speaker 4: we'll oh, that's the Laramie Draft. Actually at twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: It was Docson Doctors and oh Josh Dockson from TSCU. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: and I think out of that the Texans ended up

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Speaker 1: Deal, even though Will ended up moving on in free agency,

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Speaker 2: Yeah to the Vikings, those two picks basically busted big time.

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Speaker 2: How about time, how about if it was the Vikings

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Speaker 2: it was that close, whereas the Washington GM at the

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Speaker 2: time was it It wasn't Vinnie anymore. In twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: to Washington GM at the time said to Rick, Listen,

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Speaker 2: the Vikings want to jump up and take fuller, but

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Speaker 2: I'll take your deal instead if you give me whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I want to you know, look, a lot

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Speaker 2: of this has to do with relationships. You know, we

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Speaker 2: talk about the trade for Deshaun at twenty seventeen. Apparently

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Speaker 2: Rick Smith had a relationship with Sashi Brown and they

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Speaker 2: had a deal kind of worked out, kind of hammered

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Speaker 2: out that if the guy the Texans wanted was on

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Speaker 2: the board at that time, Hey, let's hammer this deal out.

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Speaker 1: Let's have it ready to go.

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Speaker 2: And when they got to pick number twelve, Sashi was

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Speaker 2: kind of scorming his seat a little bit, and finally

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Speaker 2: Rick was like, look, you know, let's we agreed.

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Speaker 1: On this, Let's do this, Sashi. All right, they did

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Speaker 1: it and we end.

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Speaker 2: Up getting Deshaun Watson at that time, and it turned

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Speaker 2: out to be a good pick for the first four

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Speaker 2: or five years, and then things obviously in sideways. But

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Speaker 2: it just goes to relationships. Who do you know, who

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Speaker 2: have you made deals with in the past. Can you

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Speaker 2: speak the same language as somebody?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: The deal for Kenyan Green when Nick talked about that,

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Speaker 2: We like all three. We're gonna get one of maybe Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt the thing about that that of those

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Speaker 2: Everybody talked about Dillard. He was a pass protector out

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Speaker 1: He was a pick.

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Speaker 2: And now you look at it and go, look, Titus

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Speaker 1: Well, you look at Tys' career.

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Speaker 2: Titus Howard plays more games at either guard or tackle

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Speaker 2: And you tell me, you experts, tell me that Blake

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Speaker 4: You and all your knowledge, Berts, you and all your

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Speaker 1: But I know this.

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Speaker 4: When Laramie couldn't practice in training camp last year, where

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Speaker 4: not going to move you to guard this year. Oh

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Speaker 4: But is Blake Sneaky your left tackle and then Titus

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Speaker 1: But he got in there.

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Speaker 2: But he got in there and he was playing a lot,

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Speaker 1: But who'd they bring in last year at corner? They

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kamori was starting from day one, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Kamari was more than comfortable playing on the outside.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this.

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Speaker 2: I this is the spot where I think it fits.

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Speaker 2: Booker's played left guard mainly, but I don't know left

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Speaker 1: So you move tightest to right guard.

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Speaker 4: So Robinson's the left tackle and Blake is your right tackle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you'll draft Booker at twenty five Cam

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Speaker 4: This is really going to be interesting. We are talking

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Speaker 1: Guard yeah goos. Yeah, a lot of ways you.

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Speaker 2: But because we were out and about last night at

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Speaker 2: us right here. It's our weekly visit with Jonathan Alexander

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Speaker 2: of The Houston Chronicle. And Jonathan, last time you and

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Speaker 1: How did you like the NFL Annual Meeting? What'd you

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Speaker 2: Well, the last time that I was excluded from a

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Speaker 2: it was maybe in of last week beginning of this

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Speaker 2: uh kimra of the time, but I know it was

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Speaker 2: just recently about a potential new headquarters for the Texans.

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Speaker 2: What did you kind of gather from putting that together

442
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Speaker 2: and what did you kind of find out about what

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Speaker 2: could be potentially are new headquarters in the future.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the text the mayor's are interested in in building

445
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Speaker 5: uh or searching for a space to do it, to

446
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Speaker 5: build a headquarters. And actually there are one of four

447
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Speaker 5: NFL teams that that practice out of their stadium, the

448
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Speaker 5: others being the Bengals, the Panthers, and the Patriots and

449
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Speaker 5: and and you know, just speaking to Callahana, they want

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Speaker 5: state of the art for their players. They see a

451
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Speaker 5: future and expanding with the Texans, and they're searching right

452
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Speaker 5: now for a place where they can put a heeadquarters.

453
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Speaker 5: And they think that because they're currently as it is,

454
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Speaker 5: as you all know, because you all are at the

455
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Speaker 5: facility more often they share the space, they don't own it.

456
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Speaker 5: So you know, right now they have events like Disney

457
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Speaker 5: Princess on the ice, and sometimes that can get in

458
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Speaker 5: the way.

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Speaker 3: Of when you're trying to work out.

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Speaker 5: So if they have a headquarters like other teams do,

461
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Speaker 5: and the Houston Rockets just built one this past offseason,

462
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Speaker 5: they would be able to work practice freely at their

463
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Speaker 5: headquarters and that's what they desire and they hope that

464
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Speaker 5: they can do it pretty soon. They didn't specify when

465
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Speaker 5: or where, but they seem pretty excited about it.

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Speaker 4: So the two teams that you've been on the beat

467
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Speaker 4: for in the NFL are among the four that practice

468
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Speaker 4: out of their stadium. The Carolina Panthers the other team

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Speaker 4: that you covered. What is their situation, Like, I know,

470
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Speaker 4: they broke round on a facility over the border in

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Speaker 4: South Carolina. I make it seem like the border so

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Speaker 4: far away, over the border, they ventured so far.

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Speaker 1: But that thing got derailed.

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Speaker 4: What's their situation your understanding of it anyway, Jonathan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I reported on the fallout of that. You know,

476
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Speaker 5: they had made an agreement with South Carolina rock Hill,

477
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Speaker 5: South Carolina, which is about forty minutes from the stadium,

478
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Speaker 5: to build a headquarters over the are where they could

479
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Speaker 5: practice soccer as well, and they had some requirements of

480
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Speaker 5: South Carolina, like some bonds that South Carolina was had

481
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Speaker 5: agreed to pay in South Carolina did not rock Hill

482
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Speaker 5: in particular ultimately did not do that, and David Tepper

483
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Speaker 5: pulled his name out of the deal. So they ended

484
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Speaker 5: up half building the headquarters, Like you could see the

485
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Speaker 5: structure and how it looked, and then they just kind

486
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Speaker 5: of nixed the deal. And now Charlotte is my understanding,

487
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Speaker 5: it's still looking for a place to build a headquarters,

488
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Speaker 5: but they're still practicing out of their stadium. So yeah,

489
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Speaker 5: that turned out to be a real bad mess. I

490
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Speaker 5: don't foresee you know that happening with Houston, but yeah,

491
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Speaker 5: that turned out to be a real bad mess over there.

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Speaker 2: And Rocky Jonathan, we're inching ever so closely to the

493
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Speaker 2: NFL Draft. It feels like it's been flying along, but

494
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Speaker 2: yet it feels like it can't get your fast enough

495
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Speaker 2: pick number twenty five. And you an article the other day,

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Speaker 2: I think it was nineteen players that you had in

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Speaker 2: consideration for the Texans at pick number twenty five. I've

498
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Speaker 2: told Mark Vandermier in secret, there is one player that

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Speaker 2: I would give the Vonte mac no matter what draft

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Speaker 2: day situation.

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Speaker 1: Two, how do you kind of see pick number twenty five?

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Speaker 2: Is there a pick or a player or two that

503
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Speaker 2: you think you're kind of honing in on that the

504
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Speaker 2: Texans will make that pick at twenty five? And look,

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Speaker 2: I know it to choose your own adventure novel to

506
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Speaker 2: get the number twenty five, But just what you know

507
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Speaker 2: about the team and know about where it is right now?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about number twenty five and has

509
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Speaker 2: it changed kind of since we started this whole draft

510
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Speaker 2: stuff back in January.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the magin thing is like, you don't

512
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Speaker 5: quite know what's going to happen at twenty five, just

513
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Speaker 5: given that their twenty four teams ahead of you. I

514
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Speaker 5: also think that the Texans could decide that they want

515
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Speaker 5: to trade up or trade down in the drafts if

516
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Speaker 5: they find their guy. But you know, I listed nineteen

517
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Speaker 5: guys that they could take a Day one or Day two.

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Speaker 5: You know, if somehow like a really top wide receiver

519
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Speaker 5: or a guard or tackle where to fall. I think

520
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Speaker 5: that is certainly positions that they target. Of course, you've

521
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Speaker 5: gotta like Tyler Booker from Alabama. He's one of my

522
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Speaker 5: favorites who I think would fit well in with the Texans.

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Speaker 5: I think Gray Zabel is another guy who would be

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Speaker 5: a good fit for the Texans.

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Speaker 3: He fits the culture.

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Speaker 5: He isn't typically what you would see in a Nick

527
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Speaker 5: Cassario draft pick because he played for an FCS program,

528
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Speaker 5: but team captain leader dominated at the Senior Bowl where

529
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Speaker 5: the chechin we're there, Tyler Brooker, Alabama guy who you

530
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Speaker 5: know Nick co Sirio has picked from Jamiko Ryans alma mater.

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Speaker 5: And then I think when you look at wide receivers,

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Speaker 5: Matthew Golden, who's a Texas guy and from Houston played

533
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Speaker 5: with Tank Dell. If he were to fall, then I

534
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Speaker 5: think he's potential option. And then the Mecca eg Buka

535
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Speaker 5: from Ohio State who played with CJ. Stroud. But I

536
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Speaker 5: think all of those guys also could be picked before

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Speaker 5: the Texans pick at number twenty five and may not

538
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Speaker 5: be one of their choices to pick from. Kelvin Banks

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Speaker 5: another Texas guy who could be picked ahead too. So

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Speaker 5: it's just it just depends on how the first twenty

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Speaker 5: four picks go.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it has to, and we'll all be on pins

543
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Speaker 4: and needles trying to figure out who they're gonna pick,

544
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Speaker 4: and we'll be covering it live. That'll be two weeks

545
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Speaker 4: from Thursday. Okay, so loses both of you this.

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Speaker 2: Trade up, trade down or staying pick Jonathan Stay, trade up,

547
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Speaker 2: trade down?

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Speaker 1: You don't know.

549
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Speaker 4: You don't have to decide which will they do as

550
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Speaker 4: opposed to what we think they should do, right, Trade up,

551
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Speaker 4: trade down or sticking pick?

552
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Speaker 1: What do you think?

553
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Speaker 5: Okay, So this sounds like I'm taking an easy way out,

554
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Speaker 5: but I equally like trading up four picks, four or

555
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Speaker 5: five picks at most as I do like trading down.

556
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Speaker 5: To me, it really depends.

557
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Speaker 1: On who is left on the board.

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Speaker 5: Again, my favorites are those those guys I mentioned. If

559
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Speaker 5: those guys are off, I definitely like trading back and

560
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Speaker 5: getting a guy like a Donovan Jackson later on in

561
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Speaker 5: that first round if you find a team to trade back.

562
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Speaker 5: So I think it really depends on who comes off

563
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Speaker 5: the board one of my favorites or off the If

564
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Speaker 5: all my favorites are off the boards, then I trade back.

565
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Speaker 5: If I see one of those top guys right receivers dropping,

566
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Speaker 5: then you know I would in mind trading up for one.

567
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Speaker 4: I think the only way they trade up is to

568
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Speaker 4: get the offensive lineman of their dreams. If that's Booker,

569
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Speaker 4: if that's is Able, whoever, it's the old lineman of

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Speaker 4: their dreams. I don't think they trade up to get

571
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Speaker 4: a Buca or Golden or one of the receivers, because

572
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Speaker 4: I believe that they believe.

573
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Speaker 1: And I don't. I'm just speculating here, but.

574
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Speaker 4: I believe that they believe they'll find a receiver, but

575
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Speaker 4: there might be a special offensive lineman that it's not

576
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Speaker 4: just the physical ability, it's the leader.

577
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Speaker 1: It's going to be the leader of this unit. And

578
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Speaker 1: maybe not year one. He's a rookie.

579
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Speaker 4: It's hard to lead, right, but they're drafting guys who

580
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Speaker 4: are emerging leaders like Cad Stover. I believe he's a leader,

581
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Speaker 4: but as a rookie, what can you really do. But

582
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Speaker 4: I believe he will be a difference maker on this

583
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Speaker 4: team in terms of psychology as well as his play

584
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Speaker 4: on the field. I'm not saying he's going to catch

585
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Speaker 4: eighty hundred balls, but Cad Stover is going to be

586
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Speaker 4: one of the leaders in the clubhouse, if you will,

587
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Speaker 4: in the locker room for this team. And I believe

588
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Speaker 4: that if they move up it's to get the old

589
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Speaker 4: lineman that's not only good, but he's the leader to be.

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Speaker 1: Let's stick with Kate for a second, john Nan.

591
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Speaker 2: Tight end is a position that when you see different,

592
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Speaker 2: you know, entities put out their draft needs. Everybody's you know,

593
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: off the lineman, defensive lineman, wide receiver, et cetera.

594
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Speaker 1: Where do you think.

595
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Speaker 2: Tight end sits in kind of the priority order to

596
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Speaker 2: try and find another tight end to go with the

597
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Speaker 2: group that they've got. They only got three on campus

598
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: right now, cached over being one of them, Dalton Shultz,

599
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Speaker 2: Brevin Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Not really a true why in line tight end?

601
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Speaker 2: Where do you think tight end sits in the priority

602
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Speaker 2: factor for the Texans?

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Speaker 5: I think it's a pick that you can choose if

604
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Speaker 5: you find the right one, Like say, if a really

605
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Speaker 5: good one drops to you. But I don't think it'll be,

606
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Speaker 5: you know, their biggest priority per se because obviously you

607
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 5: have Dalton Schultz and you got cased over and Brevin Jordan.

608
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Speaker 5: Now they may need one for the future, so if

609
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Speaker 5: one drops and I could see them drafting one, But

610
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Speaker 5: I don't think that if they had a choice between

611
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Speaker 5: the tight end, a guard, a tackle, and a wide

612
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Speaker 5: receiver that they would choose a tight end over that one.

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Speaker 5: But you know, if one does fall and you had

614
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Speaker 5: a good position to pick one, I could easily see

615
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Speaker 5: them choosing one because that person could be helpful for

616
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Speaker 5: the future.

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Speaker 4: Titans picking cam Ward first, which is the consensus belief,

618
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Speaker 4: is that the right decision? Or would you trade down

619
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Speaker 4: and acquire picks because they have a lot of different needs.

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Speaker 1: With the Titans.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if I'm the I take cam Ward. I think

622
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Speaker 5: you you he's the best quarterback in the draft. I

623
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Speaker 5: think he certainly has a lot of potential. And when

624
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Speaker 5: when one is there, I think you take him, and

625
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Speaker 5: I think you. I don't think you can move forward

626
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Speaker 5: with Will Levis says your quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 2: How in air quotes, far does shdor Sanders quote unquote fall?

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, Yeah, that's a good question, because you know,

629
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Speaker 5: I was looking at a at a mock draft not

630
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Speaker 5: too long ago. I actually don't think he'll fall that far.

631
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Speaker 5: I think he'll be somewhere in the top ten. I

632
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Speaker 5: think us, Yes, I don't think he'll get past the Saints.

633
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Speaker 5: I was actually looking at a modern draft not too

634
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Speaker 5: long ago, and to me, that made a lot of

635
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Speaker 5: sense to me. I think teams are two quarterback hungary

636
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Speaker 5: to let somebody who has potential drop that far in

637
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Speaker 5: the draft, so I think he'll he'll stay in the

638
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Speaker 5: top ten.

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Speaker 4: Cool, Jonathan. What do you have going on in the

640
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Speaker 4: Houston Chronicle for us?

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I have a few.

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Speaker 5: I'll have a mock draft coming up this weekend. Today

643
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Speaker 5: I posted my mail bag where I answered a lot

644
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Speaker 5: of people's questions about the Texans and the upcoming draft,

645
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Speaker 5: and we'll have more draft coverage in the near future

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Speaker 5: on Houston chic dot com.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good, Jonathan, thanks a lot for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I think there is.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle. Love gett jay on

650
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Speaker 2: shade him moving his segment to Wednesday, and it was

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Speaker 2: great as always. All right, coming up finish up the show.

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Speaker 2: We got a little in the lab mock draft. Who

653
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Speaker 2: are the two players that I give a Vonte mac

654
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Speaker 2: no matter what stamp of approval at number twenty five. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I have two of them. We'll go over that and

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Speaker 2: what we do for the rest of the draft. Next

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Speaker 2: the Texas Axis. We got one final segment this edition

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Speaker 2: of Texas All Access from the Texans Radio studio. It's

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Speaker 2: time for the in the Lab mock draft version. I

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Speaker 2: think four point oh cruder and myself sat down and

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Speaker 2: cranked this out.

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Speaker 3: Tell us what you think, John, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: This is the penultimate. I love say pennouncements, which is

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Speaker 3: next to less great word pribe pedantic to say penultimate,

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Speaker 3: But anyways, it's pab pedantic to say, but padantic. This

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Speaker 3: is the next to last mock draft simulation we're gonna

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Speaker 3: do on ma in the lab. Yeah, less than two

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Speaker 3: weeks away from the fl draft. Sound a little bit

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Speaker 3: like George McFly there. Hey, get your damn hands off.

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Speaker 3: But anyways, we are set. Let's get rocket and rolling.

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Speaker 3: You ready for this, let's go, let's go, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: So here we go. We're gonna share the screen and

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Speaker 3: as you know, as you know, we use the Pro

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Speaker 3: Football Network mock Draft simulator and we love it because

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Speaker 3: they have trades. So here we go, Johnny, We're doing

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Speaker 3: seven rounds. Click over here, going fast because always too fast,

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Speaker 3: too furious, and we're going to click on Houston. We're

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Speaker 3: going to enter the solo draft, and here we go.

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Speaker 3: We're going to make the Houston Texans a better football

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Speaker 3: team by choosing some of these guys. So we've entered

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Speaker 3: the solo draft. Names are flying off the board, and

682
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: at twenty five, the Texans have some options. Before we

683
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Speaker 3: look at those options, and my mouth is watering when

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Speaker 3: I see one of the options. Tampa Bay wants to

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Speaker 3: send us a crap package of a second, a third,

686
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Speaker 3: a second and third over the next two years. No

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Speaker 3: thank you, Tampa Bay. Get lost. The Saints want to

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Speaker 3: give us their two and their three. Thanks a lot,

689
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: No thanks, This is interesting. The Rams want us to

690
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: move back one spot and they want to give us

691
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Speaker 3: a fifth rounder that they have next year. I'm not

692
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Speaker 3: against that, but John, seeing this name right here, twenty

693
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: third ranked name overall, which I think could probably be

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Speaker 3: ranked higher, Tyler Booker, the offensive lineman from Alabama, I

695
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: just want to run up and turn the card in.

696
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: With about seventeen seconds into the fifteen minute alignment.

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Speaker 2: Here's where that trade offer from the Rams would worry

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Speaker 2: me because I think they would be trading up because

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Speaker 2: they see the same name. Yeah, and so I would think, no,

700
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Speaker 2: we're not going to take that. We would get I

701
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Speaker 2: think a twenty twenty six to fifth to go down

702
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Speaker 2: one spot. I wouldn't do it because I think the

703
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Speaker 2: Rams want that same name.

704
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: I thought that they also just saw Grey z Abel

705
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Speaker 3: get picked a spot ahead right at four by.

706
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Speaker 2: Exactly, so you kind of fear that run of the

707
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Speaker 2: two or three guys that you're thinking about that spot.

708
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Speaker 2: And it makes me think of Draft Day and in

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Speaker 2: you know the reason I think of that movie. I

710
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Speaker 2: can't why I'm blanket on. Oh it's one.

711
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Speaker 3: Spot in time out. John Harris here he started following

712
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Speaker 3: the draft and getting into the draft after he saw

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Speaker 3: the Kevin Coster movie Draft Day.

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Speaker 1: That that's that's false, that's false. But I do.

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Speaker 2: I do watch Draft Day. It's an I do watch

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Speaker 2: Draft Day. Oh, here's why I was thinking of Draft Day.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Coster writes in the post it do you remember

718
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Speaker 2: what he writes in the post?

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Speaker 1: It Vonte Mack no matter what got it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is Tyler Booker is my Vonte Mack.

721
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Speaker 1: Tyler Booker, no matter what, he's there, snatch him.

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Speaker 2: Let's rock. I think Tyler Booker is the right pick

723
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Speaker 2: there at twenty five. So we're making Adam, you did it?

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Speaker 2: Oh hmm, okay, here's an interesting one.

725
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Speaker 1: The trade offers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty eight and one of your sevenths to move

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Speaker 3: back eleven. So move up to the one hundred and

728
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Speaker 3: six pick. Right, you'd be out of the second round,

729
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: but you'd have a third and a and you.

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Speaker 1: Get a fourth. And that's one thing the Texas don't have, Drew.

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Speaker 2: We don't have a six because that right now as

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Speaker 2: it sits after pick eighty nine, because we go fifty eight,

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Speaker 2: seventy eight, eighty nine I believe is the numbering and

734
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Speaker 2: then it's all the way to one sixty six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would be prone to.

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Speaker 2: Make this deal with New England because I get sixty

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Speaker 2: nine and moved down eleven spots. I moved down to

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Speaker 2: the top of the round and third round, but I

739
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Speaker 2: also get a fourth round or at the top of

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Speaker 2: the fourth round. I do have to give up my

741
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Speaker 2: seventh round pick, but I'm okay doing that. Yeah, I

742
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: like this trade offer.

743
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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: I like it too, and I'm I'm prone to take it,

745
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: but I want to see what else is out there. Okay,

746
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Speaker 3: move back to with the Lions and add one ninety six.

747
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Speaker 2: I actually like the Patriots one a little bit more

748
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Speaker 2: because I like that top of the fourth round pick

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Speaker 2: at one O six.

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Speaker 3: Look who's here before we do this? Ok, you got

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00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: Wyatt Milam from Virginia. You don't like him high? I like?

752
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: I like him. I think that's probably a little bit

753
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: high for him.

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson run.

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Speaker 1: He is really fun man.

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Speaker 2: If if the Texans are going to be a wide

757
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: zone team, Caleb Johnson is absolutely the pick, no doubt,

758
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: he's the pick. Well, we've already taken Donavan Jackson. I

759
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: think Cherie is a really good tackle. We talked about

760
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: him before took Booker. Who took Booker? We took Booker

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Speaker 2: and I like Erserie.

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Speaker 1: But I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't love him. I actually would like to see

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Speaker 2: him in the third round. But that's just me. He's

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Speaker 2: kind of kind of long and awkward a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But look, one of the things I've always said, he

767
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Speaker 2: gets guys blocked. Somehow, he gets guys blocked. I like

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Speaker 2: pick fifty seven or the player of number fifty seven,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Royals wide receiver Utah State.

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Speaker 1: I would be very tempted.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, and this this might change everything for

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Speaker 2: me because I don't know that we could get him

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Speaker 2: down at sixty nine and that's so.

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Speaker 6: I'll leave to you, Drew, because I like Jalen Royals.

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 6: Let's take I like that Patriots trade offer. That is

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00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 6: a nice offer. But let's get Let's get guys we

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Speaker 6: think can help. I think we'll be there. So let's

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Speaker 6: take you Jalen Royal.

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00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Six foot twol five thick, strong, fast, very fast, but

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00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: lightning change of direction.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good pick. With taking Jayden Royals

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Speaker 1: at fifty eight.

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00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: Hey, you want to move back five spots and add

784
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: on a seventh next year?

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00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: No?

786
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: No, you want to add a third next year and

787
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: move back about I'm not not into that.

788
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: So we got two trade offers. No, I don't think

789
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: either want of them look good. So we're sitting at

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Speaker 2: seventy nine.

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00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 3: Okay, you got the highest rate players defensive tackle from Toledo, Darius.

792
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 2: Alexander do this easily? Yes, Yeah, that's your guy. That's

793
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: that's the guy. I have him rated in the forties. Oh,

794
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: I think he is a stud. Now he's a little

795
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: bit older. That's kind of one of the things against him.

796
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: But he was at Toledo for six years. Dude, His long, fast, athletic,

797
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: great pass rush moves.

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00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Darius Alexander would end up being a player for us

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we are, we're picking again at eighty nine.

801
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: We're getting asked to give up eighty nine and a

802
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: seventh yep, to move back seven spots and also pick

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00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: up one thirty four from the Eagles. Let's remember that one, okay,

804
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 3: and then let's move back and not really get great

805
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: stuff from Washington. Now, I'm I'm cool with some of

806
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: the first one. But I see Elijah Arroyo available the

807
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: tight end out of Miami, and I know you like

808
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: him a lot.

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00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand why he's at number ninety. I

810
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: really don't. He's a tremendous seam runner.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna be a one on one matchup

812
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: nightmare for defensive backs. I think I think it's gonna

813
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: be really tough for him. Gunner Helm is also on

814
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: the board at eighty seven. I think Arroyo is a

815
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: little bit better athlete than Helm.

816
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know that you go wrong with either one. Now,

817
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: what we've already done.

818
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: If you think about what we've already picked, We've picked

819
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson, guard tackle, Tyler Booker, which dart Yet, why

820
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 2: do I keep saying donvand Jackson. We got Tyler Brooker

821
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: the guard. Then the second round we got Jalen Royals. Yeah,

822
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: and then we got Darius Alexander. So we've hit the

823
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: three positions interier, offens line, inter defensive line, and wide

824
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: receiver that many people, us included think that's the way

825
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: that we should go.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I think tight end is up there now.

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Speaker 2: I think you would probably look at more of an inline.

828
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: Blocking tight end, and I think Arroyo is.

829
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: Very willing, but I don't know that that's his core competency.

830
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: I think if you're looking for an in line, why

831
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: Jackson Hawes from Georgia Tech. Maybe in the fifth or

832
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: sixth round. So I like these two tight ends tho

833
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: that are on a board. I like DJ Giddons, the

834
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 2: running back from Kansas State, who's also on the board

835
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: right there.

836
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's also Terrence Ferguson available. Yeah, lower down.

837
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: Another another tight end I really like out of organ

838
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: So I kind of want to do this trade with

839
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 2: the I do too, because you're only going down seven

840
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: spots and you still have those three guys you like, and.

841
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: You're dumping a seventh to move up into the you

842
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: know earlier earlier in the drafts now we lost to Arroyo.

843
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 3: Gunner Helm is there, but.

844
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: Gunnerhilm is there, and also Terrence Ferguson is there now I.

845
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: Know, and Hill and Fairchild other guard if you want

846
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 3: to keep going offensive line from.

847
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Good solid football player.

848
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: But I think for right now I kind of like

849
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: what we have at guard by having taken Tyler Booker

850
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: with adding Edit Ingram and also Lake and Tomlinson depending

851
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: on what you gonna do with Titus Howard Titus could

852
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: play guard.

853
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: So I think you're guard wise.

854
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: I think I might be okay there, Okay, I have

855
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: Hilm Ferguson.

856
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: I have Ferguson rated ahead of Helm. Do you really

857
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah? Goodness, okay, well yeah, not by much.

858
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: But I have Ferguson rated ahead of it.

859
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: And he must be good because gunner Helm is one

860
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: of those guys that I had a just a casual

861
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: football crush on. I like dudes at hurdle people. I

862
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: like big dudes at hurdle. He's a big dude that

863
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: hurdles guys. He played for the Longhorns. But if you

864
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: say Ferguson is the guy, but don't get me wrong though.

865
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong though, I like Gunnerhilm a lot.

866
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: I really like Gunner Heilm. He's just not quite the

867
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: athlete that Ferguson is.

868
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: And let's do Ferguson. Is that our pick?

869
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: Well, here's the other here we're gonna thrown the wrinkle

870
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: in there. I mentioned DJ Giddons is the running back.

871
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: DJ Giddon's running back from Kansas State. Now as a priority,

872
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: which one do you think is a little higher? I

873
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: didn't think it's tight end, But I don't know that

874
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: either Helm or Ferguson are going to scratch the itch

875
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: really that we need as an inline blocker at tight end. Okay,

876
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: Giddins I think gives you a little bit more in

877
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: a passing game.

878
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: I think could be a really dynamic dude with a

879
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: ton of speed.

880
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: Let's scratch itches. Then let's take Giddins. Okay, let's take Gidtens.

881
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

882
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Let's take Gttings in Kansas State, the running back.

883
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: Taking your four picks, and now you've added one in

884
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: here in the fourth round, and the Titan the Jaguars

885
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: wants you to move back and move I don't really

886
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: want that one.

887
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't trade with the Gladstone exactly.

888
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're picking again. Okay, we got another running back.

889
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: No thanks, quin yours, No thanks. Howard Crossed the third

890
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: defensive tackle from Notre Dame Jordan Phillips. Defensive tackle from

891
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: Notre Dame Jackson Slater. What do you think I mean?

892
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: I like him.

893
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: I like Jackson Slater. He's a center, slash guard. Tough,

894
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: really tough dude.

895
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: Strong.

896
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: Uh, there's one that I see there that it really

897
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: intrigues me. And I'll tell you why. He played at

898
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 2: the University of Houston, but then he transferred his final

899
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: year to Oregon and played alongside Derek Harmon, who I

900
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: really like.

901
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: You know that.

902
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: He was in my mock draft, first round Texans pick,

903
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: the last mock draft I did.

904
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: Jamari Caldwell was fantastic throughout his senior year. He is

905
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: a big dude who can move.

906
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

907
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: And I like that. I like that a lot.

908
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: And we got Darius Alexander. He's a little different. He's

909
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: three hundred five pounds, which licks sleek, can really rush

910
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback. Jamory Caldwell is a guy that at three

911
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five three hundred thirty pounds is agile

912
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: and can really move. I like Jamury Caldwell right here

913
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: in the fourth ron. This would be a great fourth

914
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: throng pick. I'm in okay, he's picked all right. Nice,

915
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: So now you're gonna wait a little bit because of

916
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: the trades, yep, that have happened. But you got the one, six, six,

917
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: you got the fifth. You were just still there.

918
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: Jordan Phillips is still there, a guy we've taken before

919
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: a mock draft still and Samson the running back is

920
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: still there. But we're not gonna do that here today.

921
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: You like Jake brining stool or he's.

922
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: More of a pass catching title. I'm okay with that,

923
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: But that pick right there, one forty seven. JJ Pegeese tackle.

924
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: I know we've taken defensive tackle, but I'm gonna throw you.

925
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw you the ultimate curveball. JJ Pegeese could

926
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: actually be our big man version of Travis Hunter. He

927
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: could play defensive tackle, but at the Combine they had

928
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: him work out at fullback and he ran routes and

929
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: caught the football and just look awesome. Fantastic. Ole Miss

930
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: would get in wildcat and put him. He's a former quarterback,

931
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: and they would put him in the wildcat and they

932
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: would just run power with him, and he picked up

933
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: first downs.

934
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times JJ Pegeese.

935
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: I know it says defensive tackle, but he could beat

936
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: a little like a different weapon to use offensively in

937
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: addition to him playing defensive tackle, learning how to play

938
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: defensive tackle.

939
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: Now, forty seven year old Drew Doherty likes this. Eight

940
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: year old Andy Doherty, who was a huge fan of

941
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: William the Reviger. Yeah, there you go, I'm saying, but

942
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: I just got to throw up one more thing. Okay.

943
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: Jonah Manheim, a center from USC. Are you interested or yes?

944
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm very interested. I like Jonah Monheim.

945
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: He I think he went from tackle to center in

946
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four at USC. When I saw him at

947
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, I was really impressed with his grit,

948
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: kind of his toughness. He's think USC kind of flashed,

949
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: but he was really tough, really kind of latched onto blocks.

950
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: He didn't win every one, but you could just tell

951
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: there's kind of a grimy, gritty, swarm like attitude. If

952
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: you gave me Monheim here one sixty six, I'd be

953
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: very very happy. I also like one sixty six on

954
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: Pfens board, Mile Miles Frasier, who's got long arms and

955
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: plays guard. He's got some technique work to do, but

956
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: he transferred from FIU, and I think he played about

957
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: as well as he could have at LSU. So I

958
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: think there are some definite, good, good options on the

959
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: board right here.

960
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you make the pick.

961
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: Though, you know, I kind of like the Monheim pick

962
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 3: because I just want to keep raising the level competition there.

963
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I like it in center. I like it good.

964
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: Let's do it. See, I like it. That's gonna be

965
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: a little while before we pick again.

966
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the seventh and folly the seventh.

967
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: We've dumped one of those picks, so I think we

968
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 3: only had one left. Yeah, you see the names coming

969
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: off the board and career. The Texans got.

970
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: Two forty one.

971
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see at the tip top you got Ty Hamilton.

972
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: Oh, good player. Man.

973
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: If I didn't have we didn't already have taken two

974
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: defensive tackles, I would be all over Ty Hamilt's right now.

975
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: Jackson Hawes from Georgia Tech.

976
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: That's the guy mentioned.

977
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: Another name, Cody Simon Team Star, great, great senior year.

978
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: So we've taken Cody Simon before. But you like Jackson

979
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: Hall's a tight end. What are you thinking here?

980
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: I just feel like Jackson Hawes as an inline blocking

981
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: tight end.

982
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: He's an Ivy leaguer. He went to Yale.

983
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: I won't hold that against him, but at Georgia Tech

984
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: he really showed what a blocker he is.

985
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: But then when you went the Senior Bowl, I'm.

986
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: Expecting, Okay, I'm watching this guy block, but I'm watching

987
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: run some good routes.

988
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: He's got good soft hands.

989
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's gonna turn out, you know,

990
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: to catch seventy five eighty balls in a year. But

991
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: I just feel like to have somebody that just gets

992
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: after it as an inline blocker at the y position,

993
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: at tight end position.

994
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: That just frees you up with Kate Stover, It frees

995
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: you up with Dalton Schultz.

996
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you get a guy at seventh round

997
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a starter either, but you can at

998
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: least can at least go in that direction.

999
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: So Jackson Hawes would be the pick here.

1000
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 2: I like the guys we mentioned Hamilton, but we've already

1001
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: got two defensive tackles, yeah, Raheem Sanders speedy, linear, fast,

1002
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: big back.

1003
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: But we already got.

1004
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: DJ Giddens who gives us that, and then he gives

1005
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: us some wiggle as well. Kyle Oliver reviewed interesting kind

1006
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: of hybrid stack edge Rusherna Zerr stackhouse. Again, We've got

1007
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: a number of defense tackles. MC McWilliams I think is

1008
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 2: underrated corner. But to me, I think Jackson Hawes is

1009
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: is the pick. But I'll let you make the final decision.

1010
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Drew.

1011
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna oh cool, Jackson Hawes. There it is all right.

1012
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: So here's the here's the final pali you get. We

1013
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: get the guy that we've a lot of folks have

1014
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: lusted after. Booker at the tip top and the other

1015
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: book Jalen Royle's wide receiver. Can you think come in

1016
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: and make some plays for the seconds from Utah State

1017
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: yet Darius Alexander d tackle who you kind of think

1018
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: is a steal there at seventy nine and then are

1019
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: running back in DJ Giddens, Jamari Caldwell the d tackle,

1020
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: Jonah Manheim a center and tight end to round things out,

1021
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: Jackson Hawes. We made some trades, so we stayed true

1022
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: to our Nick Cassio kind of model, making multiple trades,

1023
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: not maybe not as many as Nick might meg or

1024
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: has made, but some trades. Nonetheless, you cool with that.

1025
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm very very cool with that draft.

1026
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: I like what we've done there, good diversity amongst the

1027
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: defensive tackles, one bigger, one a little bit sleeker. I

1028
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: love getting Booker, Like I said the draft day, Mantravonte Mack,

1029
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: no matter what, Tyler Booker, no matter what at twenty five,

1030
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love that.

1031
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: Booker alone makes it feel like a big, big degory. Absolutely,

1032
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: and then the other stuff that's icing on a delicious cake, Yes,

1033
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: is very frosty.

1034
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: Well, said Druceph. We had a good time with that one.

1035
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: Appreciate Drew for stopping by, Mark for being here, Jonathan Alexander,

1036
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 2: the Houston Chronicle, all of you out there for listen.

1037
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 2: We cannot thank you enough. The draft is eight days

1038
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: away and we'll see if the Texans end up making

1039
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: a pick on Thursday night, the twenty fourth. You never

1040
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: know with Nick Cassario, but cannot wait for our draft

1041
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: parties Downtown Avenue.

1042
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: It is Houston.

1043
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a blast, so make sure you get

1044
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: out there, see us, listen to us, and we'll see

1045
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: you tomorrow. Everybody, and as always, go Texans.