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Speaker 1: It is a day of reflection over Trump's remarkable accomplishments

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Speaker 1: alongside of his administration, and I never would have believed

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Speaker 1: the day, but as I look down at the roster,

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Speaker 1: we have praise for Donald Trump from Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel,

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Speaker 1: I think this is frankly remarkable, and I think it

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Speaker 1: deserves all of the public acclamation. We will run through

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Speaker 1: from my cousin mid I was gonna say, my cousin Vinnie.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who travel.

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Speaker 1: If Joe Biden had gotten all of the hostages out

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Speaker 2: It's a terrific day for the hostage families.

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Speaker 1: It's a terrific day for President Trump for our national interests.

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Speaker 4: Do you give him credit for this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is an incredible accomplishment, an incredible novel.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me give you an idea of who was

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Speaker 2: and speak at Regis. But yours truly on the first

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump did something good. Had to make a joke

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's important credit where credit is due. Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: Are we still canceled? Sure? I tried. I tried, all right.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel even said good work. Now they got to

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Speaker 5: What a day for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: You know what, He finally did something positive today and

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Speaker 6: Trumpes in Israel and Egypt today is to celebrate a

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Speaker 6: it sounds crazy to say, but good work on that one,

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Speaker 2: We were right. I would also add that they're limiting

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Speaker 2: the praise to getting the hostages back, but the more

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Speaker 2: not saying that because Clay. It's one thing to point out, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: he got the hostages back. We all have to admit

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Speaker 2: Those are detainees, they're terror in New York, that's a

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Speaker 2: different The New York Times called it a hostage trade,

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Speaker 2: Not only did Trump have a huge win yesterday, as

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into clay An Buck Things getting spicy.

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Speaker 2: bunch of things. So we'll talk to him about news

435
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 2: of the day, his father's legacy, some of the things

436
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: he's working on. But this Letitia James situation, Clay, I

437
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: think is quite interesting. I read the New York Times

438
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: most recent large piece on this story. They wrote on it,

439
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: and it is really a masterclass in doing everything possible

440
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: to try to shift the playing field the narrative in

441
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: favor of in this case, the defendant le tissue James right.

442
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: It's all oh, I mean, the storytelling, it's it's really masterful.

443
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: You should go, Clay, if you haven't seen this most

444
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: recent one. It's like there was a small, modest colonial

445
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: house on a street, the flutter of birds in the background,

446
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: children playing at a nearby seesaw, and somehow this is

447
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: at the center of a political you know, It's like

448
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: everything is fine.

449
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: It's you know, this is just in the this is

450
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: like Main Street America.

451
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: And then the mean Republicans come along. You can almost

452
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: hear the theme music becoming angry and dissonant. But let'ssue

453
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: James has got an issue here, and that is she

454
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: not only signed. And this is all alleged, of course,

455
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: right because this is now before a court and she

456
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: has been indicted. But the simple facts are she bought

457
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: a home and got preferential treatment on the loan for

458
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: that home because she indicated that it would be an

459
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Speaker 2: invent property. I own a bunch of investment properties, so

460
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: I've been through this process. Yes, she said it was

461
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: a second residence, right, she did not say it was

462
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: an investment property. Wait, that is I gotta go back,

463
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: and I think I think the way she said it

464
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: was primary. But the so let's writ it down. She

465
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: said it was a second home for her.

466
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Speaker 1: I think she said it was a she was not

467
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Speaker 1: going to be renting it out because when you rent

468
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Speaker 1: out homes, you know this because you've bought a bunch

469
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Speaker 1: of rentals. When you're renting out a home, the down

470
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Speaker 1: payments are higher and the rates you typically have to

471
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Speaker 1: pay are higher when you say it is a primary

472
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Speaker 1: or secondary home. Because you are the occupier, you then

473
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Speaker 1: are able to get a preparential rate.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so here you go. This is the indictment says

475
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: that while miss James, I got this mixed up in

476
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Speaker 2: my head, Miss James indicated to her mortgage broker that

477
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Speaker 2: she expected to use the house as a second home.

478
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 2: She had instead used it as a rental property, a

479
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: rental investment property, renting the property to a family. Now

480
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: here's where it gets interesting, or here's what they're saying.

481
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: What she really did is not rent it and not

482
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Speaker 2: use it. And this is where the thing gets a

483
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: little bit more confusing. She didn't use it as a

484
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Speaker 2: second home. She moved family members of hers into the

485
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Speaker 2: home who then paid either no rent or so little

486
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Speaker 2: rent as to be essentially deminimous. I mean, it doesn't

487
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: so she got the home as her home because basically

488
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Speaker 2: then she's on the hook for both mortgages her current

489
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Speaker 2: home that she lives in and the secondary home. If

490
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Speaker 2: she says it's a second house for her, if it's

491
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Speaker 2: going to be something that she rents out, that changes

492
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Speaker 2: the equation for the kind of mortgage you get. Sorry, So, yes,

493
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: that is an important point of clarification. But what makes

494
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: this more complicated is that she didn't rent it out,

495
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: and she didn't use it as a second home. She

496
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: just used it for nieces of hers to go and

497
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: live in. Now, the interesting part of this is that,

498
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: according to a few reports that have come out these

499
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: nieces or one in particular, that one of the nieces

500
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: is a convicted felon. Now that or and I think

501
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: is wanted also on an additional charges in another state.

502
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: That creates problems for you in the mortgage process or

503
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: in the getting a loan and getting so it seems

504
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: like she may have falsified her loan application in order

505
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: to help a felon relative get a home that that

506
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: relative would not have easily been able to get a

507
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: mortgage for. And this is where the preferential loan amount,

508
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: and they think it's about eighteen thousand dollars eighteen nine

509
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: hundred comes in. Okay, let me give you my defense

510
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: attorney hat here all of those facts. If I am

511
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: her defense attorney in a Northern Virginia courtroom, here's what

512
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: I am going to say about this. And again I'm

513
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: not saying that this is my argument, I'm saying, pretend

514
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: you're a jury and I am defending Letitia James, and

515
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: pretend the jury is made up seventy percent of Trump haters,

516
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: thirty percent maybe of Trump voters. That might not even

517
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 2: be an exaggeration, but let's say it's seventy thirty. In

518
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: other words, you know there's twelve jurors. Let's say eight

519
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: of them are Kamala voters and four of them are

520
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Trump voters. Just to roughly kind of lay it out there,

521
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: do you think twelve jurors are going to convict if

522
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: her defense buck, which I think it would be. Is.

523
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: When I bought this house, I intended to use it

524
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: as a secondary residence to get away from the stress

525
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: of New York City. You Virginians know how great of

526
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: an area in Norfolk is, how.

527
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: Amazing it is to be able to get away.

528
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: Then I had some nieces and family members who were

529
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: destitute and out on the street, and I decided, because

530
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: I had comparatively more, that I allowed them to move in.

531
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't ever planning this, but I just wanted to

532
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: extend the hand as an aunt to family members that

533
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: needed help. And now they're trying to prosecute me for this.

534
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: If I could go back and redo the mortgage, I

535
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: would change it to be more accurate. But life happens

536
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: and we adjusted on the fly. This is not intentional.

537
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: They're coming after me because of my politics. Would eight

538
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: Kamala voters vote to convict if that is her defense?

539
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: No, I think that she's Look, she's got Abby Lowell

540
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: as a defense attorney. I don't think he's even My

541
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: guess is he's probably not even gonna charge her. He's

542
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: the kind of lawyer who usually gets correct mid to

543
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: high six figure retainer and gets paid one thousand dollars

544
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: an hour. That's what a white collar defense attorne, only

545
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: a top one. I've known some of them in New York.

546
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: I have a friend who did this. That's what they make,

547
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: you know. They say, you know, you got to give

548
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: me a quarter of a million or a half a

549
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: million dollar retainer and then one thousand dollars an hour.

550
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: So because criminal defense clients, as you may well understand,

551
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: are not great about paying bills, so usually you're like,

552
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: you better give me a big retainer because I'm not

553
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: going to be trying to track you down if you

554
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: get convicted.

555
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: To get paid. So that's the way that works. Doing

556
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: white collar defense, you know, stock stuff frauds, things like that,

557
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: you know, healthcare fraud. You generally are dealing with clientele

558
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: that have some assets, especially on the Wall Street side

559
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: of things with insider trading. So that's where the high

560
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: dollar white collar defense attorney's come into play. Okay, so

561
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: she's got top tier legal defense. You raise a very

562
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: good point about the comp I've thought that all along. Look,

563
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: we've told everybody don't expect a conviction here. Okay, that

564
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it won't happen, and we're not trying to.

565
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: I can't make a judgment one or the other. I'm

566
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: not on this jury. I don't know. But it's not

567
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: a slam dunk. And to play point about that, it's

568
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: a grand niece, by the way. Yeah, here though is

569
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: the Here is the additional component of this. The reports

570
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: that are out that her grand niece has been living

571
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: rent free with her children there, and there are reports

572
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: that she the grand niece is a fugitive from North

573
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: Carolina and has violated probation and still has a bench

574
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: warrant out for her. That's what the reporting is as

575
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: I have seen it, as of this morning. So the

576
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: one thing that's you know, you're right, it's gonna be.

577
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: I was trying to help my family. You know, it

578
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: was a rental property. I just gave it to them gratis.

579
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: But then, of course that undermines the risk factors that

580
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: go into the loan process. But still there might be

581
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: a bit of a tugging on the heartstrings there. But

582
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: the fleeing fugitive thing maybe a little That may be

583
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of also a problem just because you're

584
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: the attorney general for the state of New York and

585
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: people might not want to cut you as much slack for,

586
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: you know, playing around the edge here a bit when

587
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: you're doing this for somebody that's also a convicted felon

588
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: or might be a convicted felon. Let me also give

589
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: you a counter argument. I just gave you what I

590
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: think the defense attorney case argument partly will be. I

591
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: believe this house, correct me if I'm wrong.

592
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 5: Crew.

593
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: I believe it was one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars.

594
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: That is the Norfolk. And I know I sometimes screw

595
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: up the pronunciation. There is it nor I don't I

596
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: want to avoid the curseword, but I feel like I'm

597
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: supposed to pronounce it like it's a curseword at the end, right,

598
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: nor I'm not even gonna say it because I get

599
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: in trouble. So you guys in in that area, let

600
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: me know how I'm supposed to pronounce it. But how

601
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: many people do you think buy a secondary home in

602
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: this neighborhood? I looked it up where a house costs

603
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars. In other words,

604
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: most people who buy second homes, it's your wealthy and

605
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: you are getting away from wherever.

606
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: You may live. You go to a lake, you go

607
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: to a beach, you go.

608
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: To the mountains, and you're paying a decent amount of

609
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: money for that second home. I think the reality is

610
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: she bought this home intending for these grand nieces or

611
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: whatever they are relation to her to be able to

612
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: live there. I think she actually intentionally lied. So I

613
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: think the challenge on this is if you're buying a

614
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: second home and you are Letitia James, and I think

615
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: she has like a six hundred thousand dollars seven hundred

616
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: thousand dollars place in the New York City area. Based

617
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: on looking at the images of this house, It's not

618
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: like she bought a farm in a rural.

619
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: Area where it's different.

620
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: This is like not that nice of a neighborhood in

621
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: that this area of Virginia. I think she bought it

622
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: intending to put her family members in this home. So

623
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: I think she did lie. Now she may defend herself

624
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: by saying I thought I was gonna go kick it

625
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: in virgin and sit on the porch and sip, you know,

626
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: sip drinks on this.

627
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: He's going to claim that it was a change. It

628
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: was a change in status that occurred after the loan,

629
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: and that that's the best defense she has.

630
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if you actually look at the facts,

631
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: if she had bought some riverfront property that's beautiful view,

632
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: or she had bought some farm, why.

633
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: Would she buy this as a second As a second property.

634
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Most people don't buy second properties my point on this,

635
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: that are infinitely worse than their primary property. You don't

636
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: want to go to vacation or at least not a

637
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: different kind of place, right Like, most people aren't buying

638
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: second homes to go live in a home that's far

639
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: worse than the home that they live in now. Most

640
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: people don't buy second homes. They're not wealthy enough to

641
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: do it, understood, But this was not She was buying

642
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: this for her family.

643
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: I think she intentionally lied.

644
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: Now I think she'll defend herself by saying, oh, I

645
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: didn't know my family was going to end up in

646
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: these dire straits here. But I think the facts actually

647
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: don't support that argument. Well, this is like the old

648
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: man rule that I've or at least for myself, which is,

649
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: if I'm going to travel somewhere for like leisure, the

650
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: bed has to be about as comfortable as my current

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Speaker 1: bed or else.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go like I used to do.

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Speaker 2: I used to rough it, man. I used to stay

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Speaker 2: and you know, I would go to like when I

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Speaker 2: was a college kid. I would stay in places where

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Speaker 2: I mean, heck, I stayed in places where I wasn't

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Speaker 2: even sure my stuff was going to be there the

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Speaker 2: next morning when I woke up, right, I mean, that

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Speaker 2: was just the reality of it. Now that I'm an

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Speaker 2: old man, I'm like, what, what's the what's the thread count?

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Speaker 2: Is it quiet? Will they will they leave me? Leave

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Speaker 2: me alone until at least ten am? Like I am

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Speaker 2: very different rules now for vacation, Well, I will just

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Speaker 2: point out, and all of you hikers out there are

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Speaker 2: going to get angry at me. The wilderness has houses

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Speaker 2: and hotels near it. I don't mind. Like that's great,

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Speaker 2: Clay's going after you campers out there. Clay is a city.

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Speaker 1: Is a city, kid, not even like I'm fine, Like

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Speaker 1: I'll go on a hike, I will go, go canoeing,

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Speaker 1: I will go. I'm not really that excited about putting

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Speaker 1: up a tent and sleeping on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Now, I we are. We are very sympatico on this one.

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Speaker 1: And I grew up doing that because my dad liked

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Speaker 1: to do it and I did not like sleeping on

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Speaker 1: the ground.

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Speaker 2: I like beds. I like beds.

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Speaker 1: I like refrigerators. Air has air conditioning. Every wilderness near it,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily in itself. There's always a place to sleep

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Speaker 1: where you can still experience the wild.

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Speaker 2: And so I am a.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's experience the wild, but then let's return

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Speaker 1: to a bed. You know, humanity has evolved so that

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Speaker 1: we do not have to sleep on the floors.

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Speaker 2: And I think we we both like, we both like glamping,

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Speaker 2: and about half of our audience right now is pulling

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Speaker 2: our man cards. So I think I think that just happened.

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Speaker 2: I think we both were on temporary man card restriction

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Speaker 2: here on the show Clay because we see out of

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Speaker 2: eye on this one. I am not I don't want

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Speaker 2: to go anywhere where people are like you might get

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Speaker 2: eaten by the wildlife too bad, you know you're visiting them.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I'm I'm not into that. I want to

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Speaker 2: at least be able to get in my car and leave.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we had dinner with your dad recently and

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Speaker 1: you and your brother were talking about being abandoned in

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Speaker 1: the in the wilds of Alaska.

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Speaker 2: Will have on a trip. The grizzly bears all around us,

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Speaker 2: and they're like, we may not be able to get

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Speaker 2: you guys out. You might have to sleep here. We

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Speaker 2: had nothing. We were just going to sleep on the

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Speaker 2: river bank overnight because we got dropped in by helicopter

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Speaker 2: and the helicopter couldn't retrieve us and we were freezing

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Speaker 2: and had no food. That was a quote vacation, okay,

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Speaker 2: ten years ago, that was my vacation. I hope you

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Speaker 2: don't eaten by bears in the middle of the night. Boys.

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Speaker 2: My dad, by the way, loves that stuff. He's like,

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Speaker 2: you never feel is alive because when you think you're

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Speaker 2: gonna lose the battle with mother nature, like he loves

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Speaker 2: that stuff. I have no interest.

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Speaker 1: Hikers and campers are right now just furiously.

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Speaker 2: From there.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get jalled up on these emails and talk backs,

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Speaker 1: but we just have it.

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Speaker 2: We'll be safe.

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Speaker 1: We'll be safe and warm while you guys are out

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Speaker 1: on the trail. That's exactly right. I mean some of

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Speaker 1: you still want to sleep in caves. That's not my thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Look it's a great cave, it's try. There might be

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Speaker 2: a bear in there. I'll just stay at a hotel.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in, Welcome back in our number three Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of.

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Speaker 1: You hanging out with us as we are rolling through

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Speaker 1: breaking down all of the news of the day. And

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Speaker 1: we are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He's

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Speaker 1: got a brand new book out today. It's called Under Siege.

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Speaker 1: It is burning up the bestseller ranks. I think I

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Speaker 1: saw it posted that it is the number one release

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Speaker 1: on Amazon today, which is a super impressive accomplishment already,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into the book in a minute, Eric,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on with us having said that

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Speaker 1: we'll get to the book, but are you still kind

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Speaker 1: of processing how incredible what yesterday was like in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East and your dad having the thirty six hours

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Speaker 1: that he had where even as we started off the

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Speaker 1: show MSNBC, CNN, Heck, Colbert and Kimmel came out and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: he did something really impressive. You know when MSNBC, CNN

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Speaker 1: and the late night hosts are praising you that your

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Speaker 1: dad must have really accomplished something. What was that like

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Speaker 1: for you to watch?

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Speaker 4: Well, guys, a year ago he was literally serving French

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Speaker 4: fries in McDonald's and now he's just serve at least

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Speaker 4: know peace. So literally it was exactly a year ago

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Speaker 4: yesterday he was doing the French fribrantine and riding around

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Speaker 4: in a garbage truck, and you know, he just solves

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Speaker 4: Middle East for peace. And I think the most impressive

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Speaker 4: part to me. Listen, you look at it almost at

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Speaker 4: every conflict around the world, whether it's you know, World

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Speaker 4: War One, World War two, Vietnam, Korea, right, you had

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Speaker 4: kind of a winner, and you had a losure of

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Speaker 4: those wars as predetermined and here it actually feels like

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Speaker 4: everybody won, right. I mean, you have you have people

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Speaker 4: on both sides of the conflict coming out and thanking

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Speaker 4: him and thanking him profusely for ending the madness, ending

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Speaker 4: the death and destruction, and then you have an entire

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Speaker 4: world that's kind of coalesced around this victory. And I

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Speaker 4: just think that's a really beautiful thing and one of

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Speaker 4: those things that only he could could pull off.

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Speaker 5: And I'm proud. I'm proud of him as a son.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, you know we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 4: siege at some point, you know today. But you know,

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Speaker 4: everything that we've we've gone through, everything that they tried

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Speaker 4: to do to destroy us, guys, it all became worth

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Speaker 4: it for me yesterday, right. I Mean there are times

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Speaker 4: when you couldn't quite you know, it couldn't couldn't quite

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Speaker 4: get there, right?

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Speaker 5: Was it worth it?

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Speaker 2: Was it not?

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Speaker 5: It was brutal. They tried to destroy your life.

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Speaker 4: And then you see a man up there with the

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Speaker 4: entire world, respecting America. You know, the death and destruction

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Speaker 4: and evilness has ended. Conflicts all over the world are ending,

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Speaker 4: you know, pieces being brought. You know, some son will

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Speaker 4: go back to their mother tonight, who would have otherwise

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Speaker 4: not gone back. She would have been finding out that

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Speaker 4: that person was dead had it not been for his actions.

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Speaker 4: And I think that makes this all worth it.

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Speaker 2: The book is under siege, My families fight to save

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Speaker 2: our nation, where with Eric Trump now talking about it,

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Speaker 2: and Eric, I have a longtime law enforcement friend who,

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Speaker 2: as you, he's a big Trump supporter. And as the

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Speaker 2: whole situation was playing out, the effort to use unprecedented

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Speaker 2: law fair not just against your dad, as you have

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Speaker 2: pointed out before, against the Trump organization, against Trump family members,

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Speaker 2: against all of you, really anyone named Trump became a target.

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Speaker 2: As you're going through that, he kept saying, a normal

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Speaker 2: and by this I just mean an every day and

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Speaker 2: everyday person would be broken by one federal indictment, meaning

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, how will I ever be able to

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Speaker 2: fight this? And and well, you know what is going

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Speaker 2: to do my reputation? Your dad and your family were

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Speaker 2: going through four nonsense criminal indictments and some of the

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Speaker 2: civil stuff that you were having to deal with, including

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Speaker 2: from Leticia James, which we were just discussing her situation.

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Speaker 2: What was that like day in and day out? Did

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Speaker 2: it just feel surreal. Did it feel like your dad

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Speaker 2: would prepared for it and was able to be a

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Speaker 2: happy warrior through the whole thing, I mean, bring us

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Speaker 2: into that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well listen, you know, honestly I was. I

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Speaker 4: was a tip of the spear with that whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: My father had certain constitutional protections that kept a lot

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Speaker 4: of the subpoenas away from him, right, and so guess

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Speaker 4: what they did.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's thirty three years old. He sat me down.

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Speaker 4: He goes, Honey, I want you to run the company.

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Speaker 4: I want you know you're you're the guy. You love

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Speaker 4: real estate, you love building, you love everything we do.

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Speaker 4: You've built so many of our projects, you run everything,

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Speaker 4: you run our teams. I want you to carry this

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Speaker 4: forward because obviously I'm going to watch Itton DC And

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Speaker 4: I said, no problem. And guys, I thought I was

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Speaker 4: gonna have this great time, you know again, building hotels,

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Speaker 4: running great organization. I never would have thought that ninety

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Speaker 4: nine percent of my time for a period of four years,

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Speaker 4: really a period of eight years, was going to be,

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Speaker 4: you know, dealing with subpoenas. I became the most subpoenive

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Speaker 4: person in American history simply because I was the conduit

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Speaker 4: to everything that he had ever built, because I was

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Speaker 4: the guy running the organization that had you know, Trump

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Speaker 4: on the front door. And so they came after us mercilessly,

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Speaker 4: and thank god, we had two things. We had a

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Speaker 4: loud voice, and we had enough zeros on the back

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Speaker 4: of our name that we could literally spent him. And guys,

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Speaker 4: I've said this plant. We've spent about four million, four

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Speaker 4: hundred million dollars fighting off the lunatics. And this is

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Speaker 4: the dirty dossier's this is the made up Russia collusion.

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Speaker 4: I was the guy that got the call from the

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Speaker 4: FBI saying, I hear you have secret servers in the

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Speaker 4: basement of Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin. We

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Speaker 4: didn't have servers in the basement of Trump Tower. It

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Speaker 4: was all a lie. It was all made up by

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Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton. It was all made up by Barack Obama.

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Speaker 4: We didn't have damn servers. But they wanted to put

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Speaker 4: us under siege, right They needed a reason. You know,

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Speaker 4: they wanted their October surprise obviously to get you know,

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Speaker 4: Hillary three more votes. But then when she failed so

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Speaker 4: miserably against you know, a bunch of ragtag individuals who

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Speaker 4: didn't know a damn thing about politics.

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Speaker 3: I e.

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Speaker 4: Our family. She needed a reason to justify her loss.

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Speaker 4: Hence the reason they made this up. And they wanted

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Speaker 4: to have this. Oh, you know, the shadow loom over

867
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: my father the entire time. They wanted the shadow government

868
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 4: to try and take him down at every single step

869
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 4: of the way. And then they leaked his tax returns.

870
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 4: I mean, not only did they leak my father's tax returns,

871
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 4: every tax return he had, this is the I R s.

872
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 4: They leaked all my tax returns. They leaked on's tax returns,

873
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: the entire family, you know. Then they leaked all the

874
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: tax returns of all the employees, all our corporate employees,

875
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 4: you know. Then they silenced us, They took us off

876
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. Then they gag ordered

877
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 4: us a lot of times. You'd see me speaking on

878
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: the front steps of the you know, of the courthouses

879
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 4: around the country. Why because some of those cases I

880
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: wasn't gag ordered in, but my father was, And so

881
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: I had to be the person to go out and

882
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: talk about, you know, the judge's daughter who you know

883
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: apparently worked for the you know, Democratic Party and is

884
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: one of the biggest you know, digital media people in

885
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: New York State while her father is presiding over a

886
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: trial against my father, right, and then they take him

887
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: off the ballot of Maine, they take him out the

888
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 4: ballot of Colorado. They do everything they can, they do,

889
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 4: They call up every bank and they try and get

890
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: us deep platform de banked. I mean, guys, this was

891
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 4: a non stop siege against our family. But it wasn't

892
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: just against our family. It was against the Republican Party.

893
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: It was against you guys, it was against everybody, everybody

894
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: who wanted free speech. They tried, they tried to hold

895
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 4: all of us down. They tried to take away our voice.

896
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: They wanted to destroy the greatest political movement, you know,

897
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: ever made. And it's it's really amazing that we can

898
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 4: be sitting here exactly one year later, one year after

899
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: those court trials and everything else, having been vindicated in

900
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: all of them, seeing what's happening to Letitia, seeing Letitia's

901
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: case get thrown out literally five zero by the appellate court,

902
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: seeing Middle East peacing, you know, inflation go down to nothing,

903
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 4: energy prices go down to nothing. You know, I mean,

904
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: what like, what vindication this is after everything that we've been.

905
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: Through and I just wanted to ask as a follow up, Eric,

906
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: it's amazing to me to see what your dad has

907
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: gone through and just observing him in public. Also, we've

908
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: play and I've been fortunate to spend a fair amount

909
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: of time with him in interviews and you know one

910
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: or you know, in a person a person face to

911
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: face setting, your dad. I have never seen him look

912
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: scared once. And this is somebody who was shot in

913
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: the ear and somebody else tried to shoot soon after.

914
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: And that is it almost seems superhuman to a lot

915
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: of us observing and I truly mean.

916
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: That he is superhuman. But the guys, this guy I've

917
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: known my entire life. I mean, he's always been this

918
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 4: energizer bunny, you know, on steroids, wearing a red tie,

919
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: right and a dark shuit.

920
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 5: That's always been my father.

921
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: Everything that everything that he's ever wanted to do is

922
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: always you know, he's always charged and it's his only focus.

923
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: He becomes people don't realize. He becomes very myopically focused

924
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: on whatever he wants to do. If it's building the

925
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: greatest building, he becomes myoptically focused on. If it's building

926
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: a great course, he becomes myopically focused on his real

927
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: estate career. If it was the Apprentice, he becomes myoptically

928
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: focused on it. Well, he did the same thing with politics.

929
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he just did this this turn and just

930
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: dedicated his entire life to politics and winning a race.

931
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 4: He became myopically focused on it and never I mean,

932
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many people have lost money

933
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: betting against Donald Trump. You know, don't don't bet against

934
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 4: the guy, because he's gonna beat you every single time.

935
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: And you know, he became myoptally focused when he came

936
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: to the Middle East.

937
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 5: Peace.

938
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the one thing that he always wanted

939
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 4: to achieve, and that was probably the gratest achievement of all.

940
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 4: It's something that everybody was laughing at. This will never happen.

941
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: These societies hate each other, they've been warring for thousands

942
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: of years. They'll never come together. And he goes, no,

943
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: I want, I want peace in the Middle East. I

944
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 4: want the Abraham Accords. I want I want people to

945
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: be kind of, you know, prosperous. But he does not

946
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: back down, he does not mince words. He's politically incorrect,

947
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: and frankly, it's what people adored about him. I mean,

948
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: you'd watch those primary debates guys in twenty you know,

949
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, you know, and and all

950
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 4: those all those soundbites were rehearsed, right. I mean, you know,

951
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton well is very lucky that Donald Trump isn't

952
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 4: running the legal system of the United States.

953
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 5: Right.

954
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: He's throwing out these ingers, yeah, because you'd be in

955
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 4: jail for the rest of your life, right, And he's

956
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: doing it off the cuff. And and people like somebody

957
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: who was finally real, somebody who wasn't PC, somebody who

958
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: was willing to go out there and fight like hell,

959
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: and somebody who was willing to work hard, because you

960
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 4: just don't have that in politics. I mean, most of

961
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: the politicians are lazy, their canned, they're they're scripted, they're

962
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 4: they're inauthentic, and and and they lose, They lose Americans.

963
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: And that's why, you know, there was never any excitement

964
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: in politics before my father came into the race. No

965
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 4: one was excited about Jem Bush. No one gave a

966
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: damn about Jet Bush. And now you watch these rallies

967
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: where thirty fifty thousand people show up to these rallies.

968
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 5: People are excited.

969
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 4: And by the way, a lot of those people are

970
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: young kids, who are you engaged in kind of the

971
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: democratic process for the first time.

972
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 5: It's a beautiful thing to witness.

973
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: We're talking to Eric Trump. The book is under Siege,

974
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: My Family's Fight to save our Nation. It's available everywhere. Eric,

975
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: you just talked about your dad and his unique sensibilities

976
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: when it comes to politics. You're a builder, You're a

977
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: business person. So is Jared Kushner, so is Steve Whitcoff.

978
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Obviously your dad. How much do you think being a

979
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: business guy made it possible to get a deal as

980
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: opposed to a straight politics guy in the Middle East?

981
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: I love this because deal makers look at solutions or

982
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: situations and just try to get to yes, whereas it

983
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: feels like a lot of politicians get bogged down in

984
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: things that don't matter. How much do you think business

985
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: and deal making really was the foundation of what Jared,

986
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: what Steve and what your dad were able to do.

987
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: And how much do you see that in your own

988
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: world from a business perspective, as looking at politics as

989
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: a series of deals as opposed to getting bogged down

990
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: in sometimes these intractable issues.

991
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: By the way, it's a great question.

992
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I've ever gotten asked, but it's

993
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: one hundred percent being a deal maker. I mean, listen,

994
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: Obama ran on what hope, right, I like hope. Hope

995
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: doesn't get you anywhere in business. You know what I

996
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: hope gets you. I hope gets you bankrupt. You do

997
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: you don't hope for something, you go out and you

998
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: effectually change, right. And and that's what Jared did so great,

999
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 4: That's what wa cough im in Steve Wickoff.

1000
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 5: I am my closest friends. I love him to death, but.

1001
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 4: I mean these you know, and and guys like me, right,

1002
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm out of business if we don't you know, if

1003
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: we don't get results, you don't get things across the

1004
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: finish line, you are out of business, right like that,

1005
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: That's what business is about, making the deal right, getting

1006
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: things accomplished, getting things done. Whereas black Obama was about hope.

1007
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: Hope isn't a strategy. You know, results are a strategy.

1008
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: And that's what my father demands. He demands results. Everything

1009
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 4: he does, every word he says, is about getting a

1010
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 4: result right, you know, and and that's a calculated result.

1011
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: Everything he does, every press conference, every meeting, every every

1012
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 4: call he makes, every time he pushes his cabinet, everything

1013
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 4: he does, every person that he appoints. It's about getting results.

1014
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 4: And that's what motivates my father, and that's what motivates

1015
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 4: people in the business world. And so I think that's

1016
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: why all of a sudden you had this kind of

1017
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: you know, ragtag group of people once again, you know,

1018
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 4: who didn't know anything about politics. You know, it might

1019
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: not have even known that much about Middle East piece,

1020
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 4: but was able to go in there, build relationships, negotiate well,

1021
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 4: get everybody to a table, and actually effectuate change versus

1022
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: you know, these career bureaucrats who talk about how how

1023
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: much they know about foreign policy and yet they're incapable

1024
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: of getting anything done. I mean, how how many more

1025
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 4: times do you do you have to hear? Do you

1026
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: remember we're in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Well, Donald Trump

1027
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: does not know anything about foreign policy. It's like, yeah,

1028
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: they didn't know anything about foreign policy either, you know,

1029
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: and guess what, it's a really smart guy who could

1030
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: figure it out in about three and a half seconds,

1031
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: bring people to the table, and actually get something accomplished.

1032
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: And you know, it always makes me so happy when

1033
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: I see him just run circles around these people who

1034
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: claim to know something about foreign policy, yet they haven't

1035
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 4: progressed a ball in the last you know, three decades.

1036
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's been amazing to see and especially to watch

1037
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: a lot of your dad's critics eat a hefty dose

1038
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: of humble pie because of the huge win in the

1039
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: Middle East. So congrats to you, Congrats to your family

1040
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: and to the President. I have one last one for you, Eric.

1041
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 2: You and I are rough with the same age plays

1042
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: a little bit older, but we grew up with the

1043
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: same movies, you and I, Eric, and your book is

1044
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: Under Siege, My Famili's Fight to Save Our Nation, which

1045
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 2: is already number one. Everyone should go get a copy

1046
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: of it. Does this Stephen Sagall, by the way, a

1047
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: vocal Trump supporter, Does Stephen sagalls Under Siege make your

1048
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: top ten Action Movies All Time list?

1049
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 5: Yeah? By one hundred percent?

1050
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: Right, I mean Steven's is always like a legend for us, right,

1051
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 4: as you know, as was John Claude Bandamas you remember

1052
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: very well. I mean my father's my father and I

1053
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 4: used to watch literally blood Sport every single weekend.

1054
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 5: I mean, we love, we love that movie.

1055
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: We we watched that too. You know, it's Steven Miller's

1056
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: favorite movie. He told us that on the show Number

1057
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: one all time.

1058
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 5: Well, fuck you remember the Kumte and everything, right, we

1059
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 5: love that. Under Siege, I mean, how can you not?

1060
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 4: You know, you you add you had you know, Gary

1061
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 4: Busey of all things. Gary Busey ended up being on

1062
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 4: The Apprentice with us for for years. Steven Sagall. He was,

1063
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 4: you know, tossing people around the Missouri remember.

1064
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: The battleship, and you know it was it was. It

1065
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 5: was a great movie.

1066
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: But no, never, never did I think that would come

1067
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 4: into a little, you know, fashion in my life. I mean,

1068
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 4: I listen to anybody roughly our age. I'm forty one, anybody

1069
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: roughly our agent's scene under siege. But they literally, guys,

1070
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 4: they put us under siege. You know, they tried to

1071
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: destroy us. They they tried to do everything they could

1072
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: to cut us off, to silence our voice, to to

1073
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 4: bankrupt us, to deprive us, to toize the media, to

1074
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: weaponize the government, to weaponize the DOJ, to weaponize every right,

1075
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 4: to make up dirty ossier's, to impeach him, to go

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Speaker 4: after you know, I mean his supreme court justices, his

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Speaker 4: inner circle, his family, to try and screw up his marriage,

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Speaker 4: to try and screw up his family, to try and

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Speaker 4: steal his businesses from him. That is the definition of

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Speaker 4: a siege. And the good news is and then, by

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Speaker 4: the way, and they did that to all of America, right.

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Speaker 4: They tried to go after you know, Americans and mainly

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Speaker 4: conservatives vis a vis the I. R. S. They went

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Speaker 4: after their churches, they went after their religious institutions, they

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Speaker 4: went after their children. They taught them revision is history.

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Speaker 4: They tried to you know, confuse their gender identities. This

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Speaker 4: is the siege that they put this country through. And

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Speaker 4: we won the siege, guys.

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Speaker 5: We wanted.

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Speaker 4: We won every aspect of it, based on the fact

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Speaker 4: that we had the most resounding victory in American political history,

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Speaker 4: winning the popular vote, winning every swing state, having every

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Speaker 4: state in the country attacked to the right. And so, guys,

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Speaker 4: they put us all under siege, and we won the

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Speaker 4: greatest political movement in the history of this country.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 4: And so, you know, the book, as ugly as some

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Speaker 4: of the topics are in there, you know, actually is

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Speaker 4: beautiful because you can beat the mainstream media, and you

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Speaker 4: can beat the weaponization of government, and we can win

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Speaker 4: as a collective Americans who love this country and love God,

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Speaker 4: and love our constitution and love our flag. And that's

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Speaker 4: exactly what we did together.

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Speaker 1: Heymen, Book under Siege. Encourage you guys to go check

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Speaker 1: it out. Appreciate the time Eric look forward acrossing paths

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Speaker 1: down the road.

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Speaker 5: Guys, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Look, we've had a phenomenal news out of Israel all

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Speaker 1: week long. You just heard us talking about it with

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Speaker 1: Eric Trump. You've heard us talking about it all week.

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Speaker 1: It's been incredible to be able to chase and to

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