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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 1: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 1: was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 2: dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 1: I can't get.

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Speaker 2: Enough of him.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear that both job at Craig Beers hand. There

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Speaker 1: are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists. Here

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Speaker 1: are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Ken Flows back in the saddle today. I can't keep

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Speaker 4: track of all these May birthdays. It's Monday, May twenty fourth,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Anyone out there born on May twenty fourth, Happy birthday.

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Speaker 4: It's episode three oh two of the anac Employan podcast.

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow's got a big birthday coming up in two days.

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Speaker 4: Ray Longo was May twenty one. Our producer Cody was

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Speaker 4: May fifteenth, and Ken Flow's baby boy.

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Speaker 1: Was born last Monday, May seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations, man, tune out girl boy and you're good.

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Speaker 5: Thank you man. I think you're right. I think you're

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Speaker 5: right on that. That's the way to go. Just girl

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Speaker 5: boy done. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he's a week old. Crazy. It seems like

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Speaker 5: A year ago now everything that's been happening. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: staying busy, man. I feel blessed, very grateful. He is healthy,

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Speaker 5: My wife is healthy, and let's.

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Speaker 1: Go somebody in my family.

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Speaker 4: I forget whom asked me if Kenny was going to

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Speaker 4: be back on the podcast this week.

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Speaker 1: I said, we don't give paternity leave Anak and Florida

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Speaker 4: He will apse litely be back, but lo and behold.

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Speaker 4: She essentially goes into labor while we're on the air.

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Speaker 4: Last year, he was born mid afternoon. Is that right,

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Speaker 4: around two fifteen or so?

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Speaker 5: So, Yeah, we had to take off in the morning

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Speaker 5: and it was just kind of like we were up

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Speaker 5: the night, and you know, I think I probably text

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Speaker 5: might be the day. Of course it happened on the

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Speaker 5: poodcast day, but hey, we figured it out. Man, thank

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Speaker 5: you guys for adjusting. And yeah, so there's a lot

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Speaker 4: But before we sort of move on, I remember when

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Speaker 4: my second child, Tatum, was born in Las Vegas, and

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Speaker 4: it was probably the most powerful of the three kids

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Speaker 4: a married couple. I texted you this, but we went

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Speaker 1: Like Riley was our dog, Like what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: I guess we're raising this human being for now, and

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Speaker 4: then once she had a sibling, once we were a family.

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Speaker 1: Before that really felt like the day we became a family.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if you had any of the

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Speaker 1: He was seven pounds full rounds? Is anyone in that

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Speaker 1: Not gonna be an easy two and a half three

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Speaker 4: The muscle memory going to serve a tennis ball. You

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Speaker 1: In the face when I see you, nin Er.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're on the air at UFC two sixty two,

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Speaker 4: Bruins lost Game one in overtime, sliding the score onto

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Speaker 1: It's like, fuck you, bro, Four straight wins for the Bees.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of moving on, lots of celebrating Massachusetts because Rob Font,

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Speaker 4: Rob fucking Font out of Wooburn, out of Lemonster, out

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Speaker 1: Haveril teaches in Wellesley.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's up for Robbie Font wins the main event over

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Speaker 1: And it's not all a local thing here.

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Speaker 4: There's a Puerto Rico angle for Rob Font as well,

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Speaker 4: but this is big news.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Rob Font is maybe one win away from a championship

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Speaker 5: It's great to see a humble guy like Rob Font

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Speaker 5: continues to improve every time I've seen Rob Font fight,

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Speaker 5: You know, I think the first round was challenging for him,

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Speaker 4: There have been times in his career when the big

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Speaker 1: He has sort of closed up their circle.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know, man, it takes just long term,

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Speaker 1: So I'm just pretty happy for Rob Fon. If you

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Speaker 5: It's so easy to get down on yourself or to

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Speaker 5: get negative and you know, experience those losses and be like, man,

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Speaker 5: do I have it?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 5: Should I tank gloves? Am I ever going to be

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Speaker 5: done diligently quietly. He's gotten better because of it, and

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Speaker 5: I mean it's long. I say, I'm grown it up.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Ray. It's now time for

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Speaker 1: the Ray LONGO Minute.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to question hose Fuck's the Ray long Minute?

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Speaker 3: Stray Line with.

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Speaker 1: John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. Oh it's good to

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Speaker 1: see Ray. It's good to see it, my man.

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Speaker 4: How are the New York Islanders doing in the Stanley

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Speaker 4: Cup Stanley Cup playoffs?

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Speaker 1: You're paying attention to the New York Islanders.

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Speaker 3: Or that would be a negative new talk with.

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Speaker 1: The Penguins to to Game five tonight?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow? Yeah, who would know, who would have thought it?

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Speaker 3: Kenny thought who would have thought it?

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Speaker 6: But anyway, before we get so, thank you very much

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Speaker 3: I really want to thank you for doing that, very

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Speaker 1: Hey man, I I cherish our friendship greatly.

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Speaker 4: And uh, it's easier for me sometimes to maybe put

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Speaker 1: But we got a lot of love for you.

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Speaker 4: And uh, hey, how about the fact that Ken Flow's

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Speaker 3: Congrats Ken Flow. Man, you're on your way. Thank you

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Speaker 3: the way to fatherhood. You've been there, but now you're

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Speaker 1: Now, now it's the real deal exactly.

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Speaker 3: That was the real deal? Is that two? Number two? Well, yes,

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Speaker 3: that's crazy. Yeah, you're right there.

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Speaker 5: I'm a contender now I'm in the top ten and

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Speaker 4: I say this because it's going to be a life

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Speaker 6: Absolutely right, yes, absolutely, well yeah, speaking of that, you know,

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Speaker 6: But I was at the mohegan Son for my birthday.

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Speaker 3: Would a Vive Ghazali and congratulations.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he looked phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: He's another kid that grew up on the match. Really

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Speaker 6: two him. What are just nice people, They really are

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: He looked really good.

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Speaker 6: His mma jiu jitsu is awesome, and he shows up

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Speaker 3: But man, what a great kid.

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Speaker 6: And he did attack that guy, you know, he did

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Speaker 6: But like your son's going to be, he grew up

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Speaker 4: Man, and it shows there are some guys who just

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Speaker 6: He's one of them, Man's it's nice to see because

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Speaker 6: So he had a great win, which made for a

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Speaker 4: A lot of birthday love out there on the social

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Speaker 4: media wires for Raymond Longo, my gosh, really made an imprint.

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Speaker 1: Part of what I wrote though.

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Speaker 4: Was that I still feel like you're a touch underappreciated

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think that you get so much attention for you,

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Speaker 4: you know, punch a hole in his fucking chest right

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Speaker 4: that they don't understand that you actually know how to

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Speaker 1: So that was part of my message too.

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Speaker 4: Real quick though, in terms of guys elevating their game

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Speaker 4: this quote out there from his former collegiate wrestling coach

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Speaker 4: He says he's never had a guy raise his game

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Speaker 4: more when the lights come on, right, when you know,

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Speaker 4: when when the games are there, the matches there, Gillespie

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Speaker 1: So you you you, I was.

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Speaker 6: Gonna say, Man, he proved it in the last fight

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Speaker 6: because again he looked like he was dead to rights

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Speaker 3: It was crazy, like the way they even film that.

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Speaker 6: If you were watching on TV, it was hard to

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Speaker 6: what he what he did in that second round was phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: Man. Just so that whoever his butch was, that's he

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Speaker 4: So putting a bow on uh Ken flow having a son,

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Speaker 4: so yeah, like just imagine how much jiu jitsu this

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Speaker 1: And I know true your.

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Speaker 4: Daughter too, right, I got two girls right, Like, I've

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Speaker 4: taken them to taekwondo.

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Speaker 1: They love it, and then they don't want to go back.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like Ken Flow's son, Okay is going

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Speaker 4: to have to do a lot of fucking jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 1: I hope he likes it.

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Speaker 5: I hope he's gonna He's gonna do striking, He's gonna

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Speaker 4: He'll be a hell of a soccer player. Everything in

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Speaker 4: sort at youth sports, adult sports, it's all about footwork.

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Speaker 1: It's all about footwork.

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Speaker 4: So as long as the sports that he's doing, he's

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Speaker 4: he should be in good shape. So, but you guys

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Speaker 4: had a conversation Ray, just as Ken Flow is trying

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Speaker 4: to figure out what the hell to name this human being?

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Speaker 1: Ray, what's your father's name?

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Speaker 3: My father's name was august Nicholas Longo.

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Speaker 4: And Ken Flow's Father's name is Augustin. Is did I

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Speaker 4: pronounce that correctly?

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Speaker 1: You like that? Ray, Augustin?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my father's name is really Augustine.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so Kenny's literally bantering about with his wife

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Speaker 4: or bandying about whatever.

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Speaker 1: The fucking phrase is. I'm losing my mind today. But

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Speaker 1: they're talking.

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Speaker 4: About names, right yeah, And then you, out of nowhere

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Speaker 4: drop that name on our podcast, right, Kenny, And that's

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Speaker 4: your son's middle name, Augustine.

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Speaker 1: Correct Augustin. And the other name that we were considering

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Speaker 1: for a first day was august.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy that you brought that up. But anyways, I.

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Speaker 3: Think I was telling Kenny off the air or we texted.

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Speaker 6: I said, you know, every time I see his father

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Speaker 3: Unusual name, like his friend's naw him as Nick.

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Speaker 6: But his real name was August and I used to

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Speaker 6: call him Gus, which is hysterical because he said he

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Speaker 6: Fall the Gus, I was looking to annoy him back then,

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Speaker 6: uh yeah, good stuff, man. It's a great, great name.

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Speaker 6: It's a strong name.

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Speaker 1: I really like it. I wanted to get a little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to. I think that's phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: So John Annik is what it's all about, buddy.

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Speaker 4: So here's I'm trying to find this tweet from Josh Cohen,

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Speaker 4: good friend of mine. He hosts a radio show for

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Speaker 4: ESPN Radio in West Palm Beach. But the stars just

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that name a lot.

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Speaker 4: Later on Monday, Ken Flow, I'm like, what what is

445
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Speaker 4: going on?

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Speaker 1: You know? Crazy? Oh, congratulations. We're very happy for you.

447
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Speaker 4: Obviously we missed you last week, and you're probably excited

448
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Speaker 4: because we spent most of the show doing like rules

449
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Speaker 4: stuff and scoring, and I'm sure you're happy.

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Speaker 1: To dodge that episode a little bit. Yes, exactly. It

451
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Speaker 1: was a way.

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Speaker 6: We caught a little heat for that, but it was

453
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Speaker 6: it was a conversation that needed to happen, and it's

454
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Speaker 6: going to always be needed to happen.

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Speaker 4: You know what they say, if you can't stay in

456
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Speaker 4: the heat, get your ass out of the kitchen.

457
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Speaker 1: We on a mission. So I'm drinking Gatorade zero sugar today.

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow would tell you that your body recognizes this

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Speaker 4: as sugar.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely terrible for you. Oh I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't touch that shit.

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Speaker 1: Get yourself.

463
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Speaker 4: Just electrolyts, just straight electrolytes, I know, just put it.

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Speaker 1: Awful, just absolutely terrible.

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Speaker 4: So counterproductive to all the physical activity that I'm doing.

466
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Speaker 4: So Ray, what do you think about Rob font unbelievable?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's a great lesson for the

468
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Speaker 6: young kids or the guys getting in men. The jib

469
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Speaker 6: is just critical. Man, he just man was crazy. I mean,

470
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Speaker 6: no head movement.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's funny like Cody, you could

472
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Speaker 3: see if you throw a.

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Speaker 6: Combination he could slip weave get out of there, you know,

474
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Speaker 6: but man, no head moving off. The jib just was

475
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Speaker 6: almost like he had a magnet on his head and

476
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Speaker 6: that jib just couldn't miss him. It was really the

477
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Speaker 6: first thing I think should have been, you have to

478
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Speaker 6: take away the jib to even be in this fight.

479
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Speaker 6: And you know there were times he was putting his

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Speaker 6: hands down and still getting hit with it. You know,

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Speaker 6: you just a weird you know, he just the jib

482
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Speaker 6: was that was the whole fight, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: And you know it's funny. When I was watching the fight,

484
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Speaker 6: it was used to be two guys from Westbury boxing

485
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Speaker 6: man that you know, they would whenever I would get

486
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Speaker 6: those guys together, like I had the spa and go,

487
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Speaker 6: you know, because I know where he was going. He

488
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Speaker 6: would tell the same story every time he goes. You know,

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Speaker 6: I actually used to try to miss him with my

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Speaker 6: right hand but I just couldn't.

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Speaker 3: It just it would find its we But you know,

492
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Speaker 3: it was really just a funny thing. And that's what

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Speaker 3: it almost looked like if these guys got together and

494
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Speaker 3: Robert Fankles.

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Speaker 6: You know, I was actually trying to miss him, but

496
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Speaker 6: I couldn't miss kept getting his end in the way.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that was the I think that was the

498
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Speaker 3: that look. That was the theme of the fight.

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Speaker 5: You know, Base, I know you'll agree with this, but

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, for a lot of the other

501
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Speaker 5: fighters that are listening to this or watching this, right,

502
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Speaker 5: it all starts and ends with fundamentals and your basics.

503
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Speaker 1: If you don't have that core to go back to,

504
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Speaker 1: you're screwed.

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Speaker 5: And you know, and I don't want to make an example,

506
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Speaker 5: because Tony Ferguson is an amazing fighter, but if you're

507
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Speaker 5: looking at his game, you wouldn't say he's known for

508
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Speaker 5: his fundamentals or for his basics. And if you're looking

509
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Speaker 5: to reinvent yourself at a later part in your career

510
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Speaker 5: and you don't have that, you have nothing. You have

511
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Speaker 5: no foundation to fall back on. You're in a really

512
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Speaker 5: tough spot. And that's kind of what concerns me. Not

513
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Speaker 5: to say that Cody's in such a bad spot like that,

514
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Speaker 5: but you know, he does have a certain amount of

515
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Speaker 5: basics and fundamentals to fall back on, But to reinvent

516
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Speaker 5: yourself at this point, at this stage of the game,

517
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Speaker 5: without any foundation, without understanding the basics of the game,

518
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Speaker 5: you're in a.

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Speaker 1: Really tough spot.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's what Rob font proved is that

521
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Speaker 5: he had superior basics, He had a superior foundation, and

522
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Speaker 5: that's really what want him this fight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look going into the fight, like for me, like

524
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Speaker 6: around the gym, it was more like this is the

525
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Speaker 6: way I looked at it, because you know, gard Brand's

526
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Speaker 6: a heavy hitter right when he can throw, he's got power,

527
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Speaker 6: But you know if and I'm sure Calvin Katar is

528
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Speaker 6: sparring with Rob font I mean, if you could deal

529
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Speaker 6: with that animal in the gym, this is not gonna

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Speaker 6: You're not going anywhere with Cody Garbran at thirty five

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Speaker 6: because Calvin's a big forty five and he could throw.

532
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Speaker 6: So I'm sure those boring sessions are very, very critical

533
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Speaker 6: for a lot of reasons. But dean'mas brought it out

534
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Speaker 6: on the on the broadcast last week with Tony Ferguson.

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Speaker 6: He's got no fundamentals to he He really hit that

536
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Speaker 6: right on the head. His fundamentals aren't Darren Kenny's one

537
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Speaker 6: hundred percent right. If you don't have fundamentals, you're gonna

538
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Speaker 6: be in trouble, you know what I mean. And and

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Speaker 6: now that one hundred percent was the difference.

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Speaker 3: In the fight. The only other thing that I didn't like.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there was a there was a point where,

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Speaker 6: first off, this should have been code read in Cody's corner.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he was just losing that fight all around,

544
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Speaker 6: and they it was a point when Mark was talking

545
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Speaker 6: and another guy starts talking. He just turned away from

546
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Speaker 6: Mark and started listening to him. So that's the first thing.

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Speaker 6: That corner's got to be squared away, you know what

548
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Speaker 6: I mean, say they he he looked like he would

549
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Speaker 6: listen if as somebody on the other side said something,

550
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Speaker 6: he turned his head, so I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a big, big problem.

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Speaker 6: Right in the middle of what Mark was saying, he

553
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Speaker 6: just turned around and started listening to somebody else. You're

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Speaker 6: in a You got a minute, man, That minute's probably

555
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Speaker 6: about forty five seconds, and after you get the guy

556
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Speaker 6: just to relax, that's in thirty You gotta make the

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Speaker 6: most out of that time.

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Speaker 1: And I questioned.

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Speaker 3: That looked like it was a little bit of a.

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Speaker 6: Problem to me, you know, so like you're saying, you

561
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Speaker 6: can't start changing things after you're already And look, I

562
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Speaker 6: like Cody when he goes in their guns blaze and

563
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Speaker 6: I really do it's do a die.

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Speaker 3: And you know, at this point in time, you know

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Speaker 3: he's got the power he had. He should have just

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Speaker 3: went for it. Man.

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Speaker 6: You could see when he was going forward he had

568
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Speaker 6: some success. But man, he was on his heels twenty

569
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Speaker 6: minutes of that fight. It was crazy, you know, And

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Speaker 6: that's never him.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Kenny said something earlier that really resonated

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Speaker 4: with me on the other side, just in terms of

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Speaker 4: staying the course for Rob Font, believing and having faith

574
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Speaker 4: in the foundation, right because after Calvin Cator was on

575
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Speaker 4: the wrong side of that beating at the hands of

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Speaker 4: Max Holloway right as documented behind me here if you're

577
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Speaker 4: watching on video. I think for the team, that was

578
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Speaker 4: really a hard loss to absorb, right to get tuned

579
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Speaker 4: up in historic fashion like that, and certainly Cater had

580
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Speaker 4: his moments, and I don't think it was something that

581
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Speaker 4: was hard for them to swallow because they questioned whether.

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Speaker 1: Or not Cater wasn't a leaf featherweight, or question what

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Speaker 1: they were doing, right.

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Speaker 4: But you when you build yourself into this main event

585
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Speaker 4: on ABC and then it goes that way, I just

586
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Speaker 4: think for the team to regroup, it just had to

587
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Speaker 4: be difficult. So to produce a win like this, a

588
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Speaker 4: contending win, to put Font into legitimate championship conversation, it's

589
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Speaker 4: huge and it speaks to the foundation that they've set

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Speaker 4: for years and years and years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but look, man, look even though he lost that fight,

592
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Speaker 6: that grit and determination, the qualities that you really want

593
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Speaker 6: to fight it just like again, they'd still be fighting

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Speaker 6: that guy wasn't gonna quit, man. And that's what that

595
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Speaker 6: team brings, I think, and that's what Calvin brings.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Calvin.

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Speaker 6: I don't even though he lost that fight that night,

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Speaker 6: Holloway was on a different level.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: He was zoned out of his I mean, that was

601
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Speaker 6: a phenomenal performance. But no quit in Calvin. And like again,

602
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Speaker 6: he landed these shots. He's just the volume was just

603
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Speaker 6: too much. But you know he still had you could

604
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Speaker 6: see his fundamentals kept him in there. But you know,

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Speaker 6: like again, that was just that was a bad night.

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Speaker 6: But I could take a lot of good things out

607
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Speaker 6: of that fight too, for Calvin and the team.

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Speaker 3: You know, of course there's no lack of heart in

609
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Speaker 3: that whole that whole group.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, I mean, I don't know that Max

611
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Speaker 4: Holloway can fight any better than he did that night.

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Speaker 4: He that was great, well, literally the greatest singular performance

613
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Speaker 4: I think I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 3: That just volume alone and so just crazy.

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Speaker 4: So while I have you both, Rob vont wins by

616
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Speaker 4: unanimous decision outstrikes Cody Garbrandt one eighty three to seventy

617
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Speaker 4: eight in significant strikes, so Al Joe's the champ. He

618
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Speaker 4: will rematch Pyotr Jan not sure when that will happen.

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Speaker 4: Corey Sandhagen number two in the world. He will fight TJ.

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Speaker 4: Dillashaw unranked July twenty fourth because of the suspension, Rob

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Speaker 4: font number three in the world.

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Speaker 1: So Ray, I'll start with you on this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you got your guy, al Joe. I don't

624
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Speaker 4: know if you have anything for us in terms of

625
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: the timeline. It looked like he was in the building

626
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: for this fight this weekend. But Rob Fawn is right

627
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 4: in the mix and a guy that I would think

628
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: has got to be on your radar at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: And I think you know, Rob Fon came out and

631
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Speaker 6: he I think obviously you know, look al Jo. He's

632
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 6: got so many haters at this point you can't even

633
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Speaker 6: bring his name up without getting like attack.

634
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Speaker 3: But uh, I think Font wash a Rob Fahn.

635
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Speaker 6: I do think Aljo is the hard to fight, you

636
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 6: know than Pdon because Pdiano give him the fight he wants,

637
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 6: which I think is more of a stand up fight,

638
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 6: right and Aljo' is just weird with his kicks and

639
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 6: he poses a lot of problems. You got to eliminate

640
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 6: the Yon thing for a little bit, because you know,

641
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 6: he he earned his right to get to that Yon fight,

642
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 6: and uh, Aljo is the type of guy.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna. He's not gonna.

644
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Speaker 6: I'm saying, he's reacting to the criticism, you know, because

645
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 6: he's been He's funny. But I don't think it will

646
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 6: affect his performance the next time.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. Who's trying to skype you this morning?

648
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: No, I don't know what's going on.

649
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 6: I got my phone on do not disturb and it's

650
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 6: coming right through to computer crazy Matt.

651
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Sarah gets that clearance not disturbed.

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Speaker 4: So Font said at the postfight press conference that Aljo

653
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 4: is the tougher puzzle than Pioldrian and who knows, he

654
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: might still have to get through somebody potentially before he

655
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: gets that championship opportunity. I'll tell you right now, though,

656
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 4: if it's Font and the New England Cattel against Team

657
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Speaker 4: Sarah long Ago, I'll tell you right now, I'll throw

658
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Speaker 4: away all my funk master gear. Okay, born and raised

659
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: in Massachusetts. I probably shouldn't say this on the air,

660
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: but you know my heart has got to be with that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm telling you. If Rob Font wins a championship,

662
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: like I literally will fly to Boston. I will go

663
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: to the Mayor's office to make sure that he gets

664
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: the duckboat treatment that the Bruins got and the Celtics get,

665
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 4: and the Red Sox and the Patriots and everybody else.

666
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: And I would have done the same.

667
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: For Ken Flow or Cater or fucking Charles Rosa, any

668
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: of these guys.

669
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: You got it.

670
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 6: You gotta stay with your people, man, That's good that

671
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 6: you're a loyal guy.

672
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: We all appreciate that.

673
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: I just could you imagine if and it's a little bit.

674
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 6: Go ahead, right, and let's not forget Morob, you know,

675
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 6: throwing him into that conversation, because I think it's right.

676
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing Morob and Rob Fond fight.

677
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that would be an exciting fight

678
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 6: because he's not gonna stop, you know, and and it's

679
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 6: we know what Font's looking to do.

680
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: So I think that's a great That's not a bad

681
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: matchup for Morob.

682
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 4: Speaking on behalf of Team Font, We're not We're not

683
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: taking that fight right now. Yeah, just just beat Toby

684
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: Dabrant in a fucking main event.

685
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: We're not fighting Marob.

686
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and by the way, I love those guys, so

687
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 6: any any fight will be just a good competition.

688
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: That we know, shit talking and no none of that stuff.

689
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: Those guys are people and you got to appreciate that, man.

690
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 4: I think in a lot of respects Morob is the

691
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: Islami Kashev of the spanhamweight division, be the guy who

692
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: has a hard time getting the fights, but would be

693
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: maybe a betting favorite against not everybody, wouldn't be favored

694
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Speaker 4: to beat Sangegan ra Aljo or Yan, but it might

695
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: be a favorite to beat a lot of these guys.

696
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: We'll see one.

697
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: Hundred and thirty five pounds is very strong. I mean,

698
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: Domin Cruz.

699
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: Love the five round main event thing from Arobi.

700
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I know they'll be I don't think

701
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 6: he'll let off the gas pedal for twenty five minutes,

702
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 6: so and somebody's gonna really have to be in shape.

703
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 6: And it's not going to be defending one takedown. It's

704
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 6: going to be defending thirty and he's not afraid to

705
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 6: There'll be no missing a takedown or getting tired.

706
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: It just won't happen.

707
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 6: So that's where he poses a problem to some of

708
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 6: the guys that are strike is, they're going to really

709
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 6: have to be well prepared for just the caudio element

710
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 6: in that fight.

711
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: I think Dominic Cruz could factor in this equation just

712
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: because of the name recognition, that that fight might appeal

713
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: to Font in the main event, maybe more.

714
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Speaker 1: Than a Rob would. I'm just throwing it out there,

715
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Bruises Will doesn't have a fight set up right now, right.

716
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: Correct, and he told me that it's uh, you know,

717
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: September would be the earliest you would see dom I

718
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: would I think again one more in this year that

719
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: that could work out.

720
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Speaker 1: Tommy Wise right him into Yeah great.

721
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 6: I mean, look, man, really that division when you were

722
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 6: as we're crazy crazy, all of those matchups, you could

723
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 6: mix a match All of those guys did great fights.

724
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: And dom is coming off a wins for the first

725
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: time in a while, which which he would need to

726
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 4: be to fight somebody like uh like Rob Font Okay,

727
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: Carla Esparza over Jan Shao Nan. I mean, this is

728
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: a perfect fight for Ken Flow to show his new

729
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: baby boy right with the elbows and all the blood, right.

730
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: But there's a bigger picture to this, obviously. With Carla

731
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: Sparza winning five in a row because she has the

732
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 4: championship win over Rosanami Unis. And we'll get to all

733
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: of that, but Ray, I'll start with you just on

734
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: the performance. I mean, you know, talking about a fighter

735
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: not resting on her laurels and just continueinuing to evolve

736
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: and get better. I mean the conditioning. And I love

737
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: Carla Sparza and she's got five straight wins. What'd you

738
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: think of the comen?

739
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: Well, well, could you think? Man?

740
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 6: She just the dominant performance over you know, a real

741
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 6: talented girl that on her back.

742
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: Was completely lost. You know.

743
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 6: It's funny like when you're breaking down fight, somebody said

744
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 6: to me, have we ever seen the other girl wrestle?

745
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 6: The answer is no, but now we know. And you

746
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: could see she she tried to power out of shit,

747
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 6: but it just wasn't gonna work. Call is just too

748
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 6: good on the ground and she controlled her and uh,

749
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: you know again, it's almost it's similar to when Steve

750
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 6: a beating Ghano the first time. They just can't figure

751
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 6: out what went wrong, like you know, but it's very

752
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 6: easy to figure out. But you know, she's going to

753
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 6: go back and address that wrestling, and then she'll she'll

754
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 6: come back to and she'll be she'll be a.

755
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: Monster, but beautiful call.

756
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 6: I mean, as far as a great performance deserves the bonus,

757
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 6: uh and just dominant went over a very strong, talented girl.

758
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: Ken Flo Carla as Barza, I would think at this

759
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: point has positioned herself to try to get the belt back.

760
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: She obviously fought Rose Nama Unis, as you well know,

761
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: in the inaugural Straaway Championship in twenty fourteen, and because

762
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: Carla won that fight, I can tell you assuredly that

763
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: this matchup appeals to Rose Nama Units. I actually talked

764
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: to Pat Barry about it about a week after the fact.

765
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: I would imagine we'll see Thug Rose once more this year.

766
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: Do you think Asparsa at this point has the inside

767
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: track to get that title shot?

768
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Speaker 5: I think so, you know, I think that she did

769
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 5: the right thing as far as both her performance and

770
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 5: her calling out of Rose Naomi Unis.

771
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Speaker 1: She has a nice win streak going.

772
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Speaker 5: She has a style that is interesting that could pose

773
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 5: some potential problems for Rose Nami Unis. I do think

774
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 5: they are two very different fighters from when they first fought.

775
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: Did we call that first fight by the way, or

776
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: am I mistaken on that I think we very well

777
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: might have. I mean, my memory is not the go

778
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: to memory.

779
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: A lot of fight a lot of but.

780
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but you know, either way, I think that Carla,

781
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 5: you know, showed uh, you know the easiest, easiest path

782
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 5: to victory. Uh and uh you know, it was a

783
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 5: brilliant performance. She was brutal, she was efficient and did

784
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: exactly what she needed to do.

785
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: Man, Yo Wanna Youn J Check is just sort of

786
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: idling and waiting for that big fight. And uh, I

787
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 4: know the listeners get upset when I continue to suggest

788
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: that she beat jeongwe Lee in that matchup. But that's

789
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: the last time she spot you know, it's been a

790
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: long time since we've seen Yo Wanna you and j check.

791
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: And she's not gonna fight Rose. So tasi rematch, all right,

792
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean jeongwe Lee and you want to yeah, yeah, absolutely,

793
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: one hundred percent.

794
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 4: I mean I'd love to see it, put it on

795
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 4: the Big five round co main event on the same

796
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: card as Carlon Rose. You know. I do think though,

797
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 4: that as far as she's been a workhorse for the promotion,

798
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: she's been there to step up when they needed her

799
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: at times, even if fights haven't materialized, and I just

800
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: think that I think ro likes that matchup, and because

801
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: of the history, I think that's probably gonna be the

802
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: next Starway Championship fight. Do you see the news Tatiana

803
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: Suarez is gonna come back at some point, looks like

804
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: at flyweight, So I'm all for fighters moving up in wait,

805
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: by the way, but it looks like she won't be

806
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: a problem necessarily for the shrawet contenders. I'm sure they

807
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 4: were probably to a woman happy to hear that news

808
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: over the weekend.

809
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: All right, such a good grappler, man, she could wrestle man,

810
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: all right.

811
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: I got a couple other notes on UFC Fight Night,

812
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: and then some stuff on Paul Felder's retirement here time permitting.

813
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 4: Did you see that overhand right by Bruno Silva? I'll

814
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 4: admit I did not ingest this entire fight card. But

815
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: what a knockout, man, I what a knockout?

816
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: It's all over I don't think I saw it either.

817
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: I was stuck at the gym.

818
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: Stuck at the gym. You wanted to be at the gym?

819
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: Did you?

820
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: Did you see Jack Hermanson over Edmund?

821
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: I saw him the main card? I saw him.

822
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, what a great, great performance and men, you could

823
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 6: see Edmund really tried to you know, he came out

824
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 6: a different person, but just has the square away that

825
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 6: that takedown defense. You know, that's it's pretty simple, I think.

826
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 6: But definitely beating up her Manson on the feet. But man, again,

827
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 6: a guy that had to dig deep and come back

828
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 6: and really have a dominant third round and make it clear.

829
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 6: I mean, he was up for the task and he

830
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 6: went to his strength and that strength was better than

831
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 6: you know, the other guy's weakness, I guess you could say.

832
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 6: But man, but just another great performance. I thought he

833
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 6: had a gut that out. Man, that first round was

834
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 6: disastrous for him.

835
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 4: Kenny, I think back to when you had to fight

836
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: Gray Maynard. I remember at one point on MMA Live

837
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: or at least off the air, you were sort of

838
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: expressing some frustration, like, man, you know, like this lifetime

839
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: of wrestling repetitions, right, I'm trying to sort of bridge

840
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 4: the gap, and you were working with Sean Gray I

841
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: believe his name at Boston University getting ready for that fight.

842
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: I just think it's like, what, I didn't have him

843
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: at that I didn't have him at that point.

844
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: After the fact, Yeah, yeah, so like when you're preparing

845
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: for that type of challenge and you had pretty good

846
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: takedown defense, I mean, like, what is your mentality going

847
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 4: into a fight where you know that a dude doesn't

848
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 4: want to strike with you and there's a good chance

849
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: he's going to be able to take you down if

850
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: not keep it there?

851
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it was tough, you.

852
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 5: Know, if I'm talking about the Gray Maynard fight, and

853
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 5: you know, specifically I had seen him stand up the

854
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 5: whole time against Nate Diaz and a lot of these

855
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 5: other fights. I said, well, he's gonna stand up with me,

856
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 5: and you know, I might try to hit a take

857
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: down here and there.

858
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: He did not obviously went to his wrestling. I think

859
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: there's a couple approaches, right. First of all, footwork gets

860
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that done.

861
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 5: You know, the way that you move your feet that's

862
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 5: going to be number one, is going to be your

863
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 5: best type of wrestling defense. Don't let him touch your

864
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 5: legs right Number two, your actual wrestling defense. Number three,

865
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: that third layer is making sure if he does take

866
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: you down, you're making him pay in some way, shape

867
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 5: or form. That you're attacking with submissions straight away that

868
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 5: you're looking for scrambles back to your feet, or you're

869
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: beating him the hell up if you are on your back,

870
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: you know, creating offense off of those scenarios. So you know,

871
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 5: I think that you know, I don't know if I

872
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 5: was so well prepared for that, but these are the

873
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: things that you know you need to get ready for.

874
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 5: And the problem is with grappling specifically, is that it

875
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: takes more than just a fight camp to get ready

876
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 5: for that. So that's why, you know, like we were

877
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 5: talking about before, Rob Thought is preparing himself for these fights.

878
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 5: He's been preparing himself for these fights two years, three years,

879
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 5: four years, five years back.

880
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: That's what you do. You get the work done and

881
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: you prepare yourself.

882
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 5: Before you face that ultimate wrestler or that tough striker

883
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 5: matchup or whatever it is.

884
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: You prepare yourself years in advance.

885
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell you, I couldn't agree more.

886
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 6: And I tell you I think when you get the

887
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 6: wrestlers like that too, you can't you just scrambles back

888
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 6: to your feet of where the fight's won. You know, again,

889
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: everything Kenny said, with the full work and stuff, but

890
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 6: you can't act we s to your back. That's the

891
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 6: first thing I think there's guys in the gymnat just

892
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 6: hard to hold down. And I got to tell you

893
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 6: you saw it even with Gudbrand. It's not worth the energy.

894
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 6: If you can't keep the guy down, you're not gonna

895
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 6: Most guys won't keep trying because they're afraid of their

896
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 6: gas tank going out, and then they have to stand

897
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 6: up with you, which is worse when they're tiet obviously

898
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 6: than when they're fresh. So it's it's got to be

899
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 6: a game in the gym where you refuse to get

900
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 6: held down and you're always trying, and eventually you'll be

901
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 6: that guy that you know as soon as you're as

902
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 6: sits the floor, you turn your out, you know you're

903
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 6: you're just gonna make it as hard as possible, make

904
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 6: the guy expend as much energy as possible. And that

905
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: wrestling energy goes pretty quick on some guys and then

906
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 6: they're not gonna want to do it. So but a

907
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 6: fight camp, now that's got to be worked on over

908
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 6: and over and over again way before that, you know.

909
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 6: And that's what I say. When you're even if you

910
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 6: have a striker, you know he's a good striker, that's

911
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 6: what you're working on right away.

912
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 3: It's just wrestling.

913
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 6: You don't wait till he fights at wrestler and then

914
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: you start training, and that's that's insanity.

915
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: That's just not going to happen.

916
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: You know, what did you say to ally a Quinto

917
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 4: when the fight went from Paul Felder to kabeb nor

918
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: Mago Metov.

919
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: Well, look, it was twenty four hours.

920
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 6: There's you know to say, you got to go into

921
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: it like a motivation, and then you know, we had

922
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 6: al Joe Matt everybody was damn. We just worked on

923
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 6: ways of getting back up, you know, like they this

924
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 6: is what he does, this is how we hold you down,

925
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 6: this is his takedowns and whatever you could squeeze in.

926
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 6: But I was a wrestler in high school, right, he

927
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 6: was a good wrestler. So he did he work his

928
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 6: wrestling for that fight, not one not one day. I'm

929
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 6: gonna say that's again, like it's weird. That's the phenomenal

930
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 6: part of that fight. Twenty four hours. He went the

931
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 6: distance with a with a complete killer uh. And you

932
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 6: know he didn't uh, he survived on the floor. But

933
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 6: he had he had good jiu jitsu and he had

934
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 6: good wrestling, and you know, there was I think could

935
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 6: be had a stand up with him, But what he

936
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 6: did say is those first two rounds gassed his arms

937
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 6: out so much he just didn't have much for the

938
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 6: stand up. And again, I would have I would have

939
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 6: liked to have seen that fight on a full camp.

940
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 6: And I know people say it's, you know, crazy stuff,

941
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 6: but it doesn't matter. This guy twenty four round was

942
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 6: with no wrestling for that camp. I think you have

943
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 6: to really put that in perspective. And I'm gonna just

944
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 6: hop on that all the time because I'm blown away

945
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 6: by what he did.

946
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: Well, that's part of the reason I brought it up.

947
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 4: So if you have a full camp though with Alpha Habiber,

948
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 4: are you starting with this guy's not touching our lead leg?

949
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: Is that how you're starting things.

950
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 6: Or what you're working on just the old Yeah, well

951
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 6: you're working on everything, you know. But he would have

952
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 6: put his wrestling time in with that of help, that's

953
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 6: the answer. I don't know man to be so fucking good,

954
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 6: who the hell knows, But I mean to have no

955
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 6: time to prepare for him, you know, like with the wrestling,

956
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 6: I don't know how many guys he would have taken

957
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 6: that fight.

958
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: Right right?

959
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 4: So all right, A couple of housekeeping items before we

960
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: get on out of here. Probably going to be Idle

961
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: next week for Memorial Day, so enjoy the holiday off

962
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: and then we'll reconvene the following Monday. We'll do some

963
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: sort of Instagram live content. Get you some selections for

964
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: the the June fifth UFC Fight Night event. Ray, what

965
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: is your next live event?

966
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm gonna be I think I'm more for a while.

967
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: We're I'm stilling to promote again.

968
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 6: So we have a fight a lot of amateurs of

969
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 6: fighting on June nineteenth out in Long Island. Exciting because

970
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 6: we're getting back and I think we got Forravola coming

971
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 6: up on June twelfth, but I won't be going with them.

972
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 6: And then that I just al Joe and Morob waiting

973
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 6: for fights, right, I'm thinking, right, I gotta just make

974
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 6: sure because we put up a chalk But there's a

975
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 6: lot of guys fighting out of the gym.

976
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: But I think that's it.

977
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 6: There'll be a couple of like you know, Ring of

978
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 6: Combat CFFC things in between coming up.

979
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: To So would you sanction an amateur fight between me

980
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: and my twin brother, neither with an amateur record under

981
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 4: the ring of combat, Banner.

982
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: Uh, I mean I really, honestly, man, I don't.

983
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 6: I've seen so many brothers beat the piss out of

984
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 6: each other in the gym, and I never let it

985
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 6: happen twice in a row age.

986
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: It is to some some stuff. So I'm going to say, well,

987
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: ours is.

988
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: Ours is fixed though he's my fall guy. He's gonna

989
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: let me knock him out in front of million and

990
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: then I'm in.

991
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: You good to go?

992
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: And Ken Flow? When is your next?

993
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: Uh?

994
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: When's your next PFL event? Right now? Yeah, a little

995
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: bit of respite. We're looking at the second week of June,

996
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, okay.

997
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: All right, And before we go, we saw both Alan

998
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: Joe Ban and Paul Felder recognized and retiring over the weekend.

999
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: And it's not as though either man I can't compete anymore, right,

1000
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason for for Joe Ban, it has

1001
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: a lot to do with just health. Right, He's had

1002
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: so many surgeries and next surgeries, and there are times

1003
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: when he's training where you know he's feeling the neck

1004
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: and and his last fight against Jared Gooden was a

1005
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 4: tremendous win, a tremendous way to go out.

1006
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: All of that stuff but.

1007
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: Paul Felder, you know, it took him a while to

1008
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: get into the upper reaches of this lightweight division.

1009
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting, Kenny, when you have a

1010
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: career with a lot of close fights, as Paul did.

1011
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: Right, had a late career win over Edson Barbosa, and

1012
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 4: you go on social media after that fight and everybody's like, oh,

1013
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: fuck you, you didn't win the fight.

1014
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: Right.

1015
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: Then you beat Dan Hooker according to the fan base,

1016
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: but you lose on the judges' scorecard, and you're sort

1017
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: of the crowning jewel of the fan base.

1018
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, Fela, you're the man. You got so fucking hose,

1019
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: you know.

1020
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: And it's interesting for me, you know, spending some time

1021
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: with him after those two wins and talking to him

1022
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 4: or after those two fights, and how when he wins

1023
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: one fight, you know, it's like the fan base is

1024
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 4: putting you down, and then you lose one fight that

1025
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 4: just thought you won, and the fan base is building

1026
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: you up. You know, great career, a lot of exciting fights,

1027
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: a lot of close fights, and thankfully he's walking away

1028
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: with a lot of opportunities and his wits about him.

1029
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: But it caught me off guard. You know, we've talked

1030
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: about this a lot privately, but I didn't know that

1031
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: he was retiring, etc.

1032
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 5: Now Yeah, you know, listen, I think that it's hard

1033
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: to appease all the fans, right, it doesn't matter what

1034
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 5: you do.

1035
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: You know, Mother Teresa has haters.

1036
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 5: So for for Paul Felder, you know, the most important thing,

1037
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 5: and I think what he'll be remembered for is the

1038
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 5: fact that he gave He always gave it his best,

1039
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 5: you know, always gave one hundred percent. He was an

1040
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 5: absolute warrior inside the octagon. UH fought his heart out

1041
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 5: and you know, I think that's what will be recognized for.

1042
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 5: You know, even above any of his wins or losses,

1043
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 5: he never gave up on himself. And in regards to retirement,

1044
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 5: I think it's extremely important for fighters to know when

1045
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 5: it's time, and it can come in a variety of ways,

1046
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 5: whether it's hey physically like me, like Alan Joe Benn,

1047
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 5: I can't train, I can't prepare the way I want to.

1048
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 5: That's when you know it's time. A lot of guys

1049
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 5: ignore that stuff and push through and they end up

1050
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 5: taking more damage to their body because of it. And

1051
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 5: then there's the guys that mentally are like, hey, you

1052
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: know what, I don't feel the same motivation to go

1053
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: out there and do another training camp or get up

1054
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 5: for this fight or whatever. And it seems like maybe

1055
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 5: that was the case for Paul Felder. And that's another

1056
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 5: huge sign that you need to stop this. This game

1057
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 5: is too dangerous, It is too brutal for you not

1058
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 5: to be one hundred percent physically or mentally in it.

1059
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: And the fact that Paul is able to recognize that

1060
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 5: and have that supersede his ego or his identity or

1061
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 5: any of that stuff is crucial. And and obviously Paul

1062
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 5: is a talented guy who can go ahead and do

1063
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 5: a lot of other things.

1064
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, not.

1065
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 5: Everybody has that. So the fact that Paul has that

1066
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 5: as his backup is huge and I wish him the best.

1067
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1068
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 6: Again, one of the more more more mentally tough fighters

1069
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 6: you're ever going to have seen in the octagon. Just

1070
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 6: mentally tough another guy, And I think Kenny's right. I mean,

1071
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 6: it makes it easy when you you're comfortable. He's doing

1072
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 6: great with the announcing, and you know, he's alluded that

1073
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 6: he wanted to stop before this, but I caught you

1074
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 6: off guard. But He's just one of those guys. I

1075
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: think when he makes his mind up, that's it. Just

1076
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 6: like he does in the fights. He's not stopping. Yeah,

1077
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 6: he doesn't quit and uh he's uh, he made his

1078
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 6: mind up. He's I think he had a great run

1079
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 6: in the UFC, uh from you know, local shows out

1080
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 6: here and you know the East Coast, and power to

1081
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 6: him man that he's got some something to hang his

1082
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 6: hat on and keep him happy. But he made his

1083
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 6: mark in the UFC. He fought the best of the best,

1084
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 6: and that's all you could do. They only anybody who

1085
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 6: fought them knew that they were in a fight, you

1086
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 6: know what I mean. As a fighter, I think that's

1087
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 6: all you could ask for.

1088
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: And I think it's hard at this stage of the

1089
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: career when the money starts to get good to walk away, right.

1090
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think yeah for some guys, if money, if

1091
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 6: your money oriented guy, then yeah, in trouble, yeah, and.

1092
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: You start to realize the bigger paydays at the time

1093
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Speaker 4: in your career where maybe you just don't have a

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00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 4: lot left. But I think there were different motivations for Paul.

1095
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm surprised that the Ayaquin fight never happened.

1096
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: I think it did come around again. But again, Paul

1097
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: wanted those big fights, those big big names, the marquee names,

1098
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 4: the Fergusons, the gae Cheese, and for one reason or another,

1099
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Speaker 4: those fights late in his career didn't materialize. Certainly, if

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Speaker 4: the Dan Hooker fight had gone the other way, maybe

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Speaker 4: he would have gotten that fight. But we all wish

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Speaker 4: Paul Felder the best in retirement and thankfully was able

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Speaker 4: to go out on his own terms and sort of

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Speaker 4: experience that shine with the dos on Joe's fight last November.

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Speaker 4: You know a lot of people say, oh, I want

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00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: to just have one retirement fight at seventy. I remember

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Speaker 4: with Ken Flow back in the day, It's like, dude,

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00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 4: can't we just do like one Swan song? And obviously

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00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: your back just wasn't going to cooperate for that, I

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00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: guess for you, Similarly, Ego wasn't going to keep you

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Speaker 4: around to get that brush from the fans one last time.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't going to be enough if you weren't going

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00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: to fight for a belt, you know, definitely.

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Speaker 5: And you know, and the other side of things is

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00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: the guy that has taken a lot of damage over

1116
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 5: the course's career and doesn't see those signs and continues

1117
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: to fight, and you end up being the guy who

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00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 5: puts everybody else over.

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Speaker 1: And you don't want to be that guy either.

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Speaker 5: Right where you now, you're just kind of now you're

1121
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Speaker 5: the goldfish for all the young sharks that are coming out, right,

1122
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Speaker 5: And that's just the brutal reality of the sport.

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Speaker 1: You know, Now you're the name that makes someone else

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00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: the name, and you know, ignoring that too.

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Speaker 5: Is tough, because again, this sport is brutal. You're not competing,

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00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 5: you're fighting. It's not a sport. You're not playing, you're fighting, right, Yeah,

1127
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Speaker 5: I mean, look, that's why I love what kabeb. I

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00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 5: love what Henry Suhudo did.

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Speaker 6: You you you're going to remember those guys just there's

1130
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 6: no negatives to remember them by.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. And they got out at

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00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 3: the right time.

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Speaker 6: And uh, I think it's a lesson for everybody. I

1134
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 6: think Felder made a real conscious, smart decision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's triple C out though, well who knows if

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Speaker 1: any of.

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Speaker 3: Who if any of them are out, but technically.

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Speaker 6: They're out, and they're not going to come back and

1139
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 6: have a ten fight, you know, run. They might come

1140
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 6: back for one fight, but they did get out on

1141
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 6: top man, which is which is it's.

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Speaker 3: Hard to do.

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00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: I mean, if you read the fine language of Ken

1144
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: Flow's PFL contract might be one, might be one more.

1145
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: You just never know. All right, we got to get

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Speaker 1: on out of here. Thanks to our executive producer, Cody Merrow.

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00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: Thanks for everybody for indulging us.

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Speaker 4: We will have some live content on social media next

1149
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 4: week and maybe later this week we'll go live on

1150
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: Instagram with Ray Longo. That seemed to resonate with some

1151
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 4: people as well. Ken Flow, congrats on the addition. My man, uh,

1152
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 4: not too much subtraction at the barbershop today. I actually

1153
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: think it looks he's.

1154
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Speaker 1: A little bit. It's a little bit.

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Speaker 6: He's a he's a hay critic this guy. Yeah, this

1156
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 6: probably isn't the time to you know, I just thought

1157
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 6: of something with Cody too.

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00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: Man. I hope that that coronavirus didn't have an effect

1159
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: in that fight.

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Speaker 6: Ye, Now, that's a good We have seen it in guys,

1161
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 6: and he got it pretty odd and it did look

1162
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 6: like he was a little flat. So I want to

1163
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 6: just I know, we struggled with it, and I hope

1164
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 6: that wasn't a reason, but uh yeah, I know they

1165
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 6: have that long holes program these guys. There's some young

1166
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 6: guys that just can't get over this shit and I've

1167
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 6: seen it in the gym and it's it's frustrating as hell.

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Speaker 1: So yea good point.

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Speaker 6: You know, might I want to bring that up before

1170
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 6: because I don't want to just you know, he's so

1171
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 6: talented basically, I mean right, and I'm believeable. It looked

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00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 6: like there was some mental confusion and that could have

1173
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 6: been part of it, Like why am I not responding

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00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 6: the way I want to respond? Is Yeah, I don't

1175
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 6: think he was taking instruction too good, but I think

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00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 6: it could have been fact that his body was just

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00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 6: telling them, Hey, dude, this shit ain't happening tonight.

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Speaker 1: He's just asked a lot of his body.

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00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: Since he was a high school athlete playing middle linebacker

1180
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: at one hundred and thirty five pounds in Ohio, you know,

1181
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: he's just been colliding with people for a very long time.

1182
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 4: And we talked so much about the skills and the

1183
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 4: talent and the speed and everything else. One of the

1184
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 4: best human beings I've met in almost ten years working

1185
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 4: for the Estay.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I wish him the best with that too,

1187
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 6: because we have a kid, Dennis Bezuker in the Jimmy

1188
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 6: just he can't shake this and he's for a couple

1189
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 6: of times, and.

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Speaker 3: Really he guts through it.

1191
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 6: But it's it's it's gut wrenching almost to watch because

1192
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 6: you know, he just he doesn't have it as long

1193
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 6: as they take X rays and you know, it's it's

1194
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 6: it's it's bad.

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00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 3: It's bad. I hope that's not the case.

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00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: My my, my babysitter just banged in sick for the day.

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Speaker 1: This is unbelievable.

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00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 4: But Teres if you listen, I'm just fucking around. It's

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Speaker 4: just a radio bit. But you know, get done with

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00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 4: the podcast.

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: Maybe go hit some golf balls. You know, babysitter asked

1202
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: for the day off, so I'm gonna go.

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00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 4: You know, Daddy, did care childcare cam Flow, You and

1204
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 4: me baby, you and me Long those kids are out.

1205
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: Of the house, right. Your kids don't live at home

1206
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: or do they No.

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00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 3: They're still home. That's one big happy family over here.

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00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, they'll be going soon though, but rough Yeah.

1209
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: Dad, you turn my room into a podcast studio.

1210
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, that'll happen instantly.

1211
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: All right, thanks everybody for a real day.

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Speaker 3: And hopefully I'll speak to you at the end of

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Speaker 3: the week. All right, right on out of here, I'm

1214
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Speaker 3: signing out.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for doing your hair, my god.

1216
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Speaker 3: Take it easy, guys.

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Speaker 4: All right, don't forget anaflor in podcast dot com if

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Speaker 4: you want merchandise. Kenflow's got some jiu jitsu videos cranking

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Speaker 4: out instructionals.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't just do jiu.

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Speaker 4: Jitsu though, probably do some striking as well, just like

1222
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: his son and I kid, of course. But it's like,

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00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: it's tricky when you're parenting kids. You know, you just

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00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: throw stuff at them, and you know, I have I

1225
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 4: have a colleague whose son is a great soccer player,

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Speaker 4: but he's seven, and people like recruiting them for their

1227
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: travel teams, and he's like, dude, my son's seven. He's

1228
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: just gonna just throw everything at the wall and see

1229
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 4: what sticks, you know. Unfortunately for my daughter's martial arts

1230
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: not sticking.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. You can't push them either.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, the whole process of coaching and being a

1233
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 5: dad is a subtle art, I think, And yeah, I

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Speaker 5: know nothing about it, but I will I'm sure as

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Speaker 5: we move.

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Speaker 4: Forward here, two things I'll say in closing about parenthood,

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00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 4: your energy sets the tone for the rest of your

1238
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: child's day. So when my eldest daughter is dragging and

1239
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: I need her to like brush your teeth or put

1240
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 4: on her shoes, you know, my inner monologue is like, hey, Riley,

1241
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 4: can you brush your teeth and maybe tie your shoes

1242
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 4: so that we can go to school? But I want

1243
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 4: her to have a good day, and I don't want

1244
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 4: her to get upset. And obviously when I raise my

1245
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 4: voice or cuss, it upsets her. So I'm like, honey,

1246
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 4: can you please, for the love of all things sacred

1247
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 4: go go brush your teeth right now?

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00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: But can how to brush your teeth?

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00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? Can you show me how you do that. I

1250
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 4: know you're going to be ten. I know you want

1251
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 4: a cellular telephone.

1252
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: For your birthday.

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00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 4: But I would also say, she's going to overnight camp

1254
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 4: for three and a half weeks, and it stands to

1255
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 4: reason she will come back a completely different child. And

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00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 4: part of the reason she's going is because all her

1257
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: friends are going, and you know, pack your bags, honey,

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00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 4: we'll see in three and a.

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00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: Half weeks, right, But she will come home and she

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00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: will be less needy, at bedtime and she will be

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00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: effectively changed forever.

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, so I'm excited for for all of that,

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Speaker 4: and uh, that's gonna do it for today and for

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Speaker 4: the show back on this channel, uh this Thursday night

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Speaker 4: with that for Canaflo and John and thank you all

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Speaker 4: for listening, for watching. We'll talk to you in less

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Speaker 4: than two weeks. Until then, YO later, don't text and

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