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Speaker 3: Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do. I had

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Speaker 3: a great experience last night.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to share it with you on what

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Speaker 2: I learned from that great experience. And I already knew this,

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Speaker 2: but it does become confirmation bias.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: What I knew was that it's the old Jerry Sloan expression.

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Speaker 2: If you start listening to the fans soon you'll become one.

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Speaker 2: And you guys ever heard that one before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sitting in third row in the end zone

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Speaker 2: Lambeau Leap area, and the game last night was, uh,

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Speaker 2: probably hard on the eyes to watch on TV. There

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Speaker 2: was obviously a lot of booing that took place in

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Speaker 2: just obnoxious and the worst.

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Speaker 3: Here you have on one team.

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Speaker 2: You had the Philadelphia Eagles, who won a game in

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Speaker 2: the exact way in which they always win games. It's ugly,

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Speaker 2: and then they have one or two plays that break

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Speaker 2: open the game. They get a lead and they grind

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Speaker 2: you out and find a way. That's how they won

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Speaker 2: a super Bowl. There's nothing spectacular about them. They have

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Speaker 2: some spectacular talent. Their bookend tackles are awesome and awesome

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Speaker 2: and gigantic. And you know, Jalen hurch is okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: he misses on a couple of throws he should make.

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Speaker 2: He's solid as hell. He runs it, sometimes he throws it.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes he throws the ball at the right times. He

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Speaker 2: does most of the right things. Seigw and Barclay were watching.

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Speaker 2: He did nothing all night except for one little dump

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Speaker 2: down into the flat becomes almost like a Madden highlight,

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Speaker 2: and then they throw to DeVante Smith for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Bang bang, Now they have a lead and they never

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Speaker 2: gave it up. But my point was, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: like listening to Jay stew talk about the Dodgers, where

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Speaker 2: the end is the year everybody sucks, they're all idiots

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Speaker 2: there they end up winning a World Series despite all

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Speaker 2: of his concerns. My thing is this, there's so many

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Speaker 2: things as fans we don't know. So many things we

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Speaker 2: don't know, and the more you listen to them, they're

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Speaker 2: all the same.

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Speaker 3: You lose and everybody's got to be fired. That's not

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Speaker 3: the way it works. It's just not.

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Speaker 2: But now in fandom it's become even worse because between

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Speaker 2: sports radio X, any sort of social platform, the reddits

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Speaker 2: of the world, you name it, there's a million ways

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Speaker 2: to get your voice out there, so people are more

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Speaker 2: empowered to boo more than they were previously. Like in

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Speaker 2: a zero zero game or a three zero game, or

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Speaker 2: game is very much was very much in doubt. Don't

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Speaker 2: get me wrong, both coaches bizarre decisions down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: I do not understand.

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Speaker 2: But the everybody's got to get fired because we didn't

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Speaker 2: can't even take it. And that's what I heard in

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Speaker 2: stands at Lambeau. Despite the fact it's still awesome, nobody's

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Speaker 3: It's just about football.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, most people who watch football games think they know football,

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Speaker 2: and not enough of us are willing to be like

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Speaker 3: the Fox Say every day.

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Speaker 2: This time that I got leap showing the Bones podcast,

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Speaker 2: we play for you a previous portion of Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: the Fox Say? Here's Dan Patrick talking about Jordan Love

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Speaker 2: and the Packers.

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Speaker 4: It feels like he's a top ten quarterback, but he

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Speaker 4: doesn't play like a top ten quarterback. He has those

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Speaker 4: now we're gonna get something special here. You thought sturdy

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Speaker 4: offensive line, reliable run game, you got a respected head coach,

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Speaker 4: and you've got a quarterback on the rise. And then

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Speaker 4: now they're five to three and one, and in those

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Speaker 4: three losses they've scored thirteen, sixteen and seven points. I

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Speaker 4: need more out of a quarterback than I'm paying two

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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty million dollars. And it's not like the

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Speaker 4: Packers are broken. But if you don't start scoring some points,

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Speaker 4: that championship window is going to close a whole lot

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's true.

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Speaker 2: Now, obviously, losing Tucker Craft changes them.

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Speaker 3: And then you're throwing.

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Speaker 2: To a wide receiver who has converted to a cornerback

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Speaker 3: Why. There just aren't a lot of exposive plays. Now.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, they were going against an Eagle

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Speaker 2: it was basically like a dump down to sakuon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: So I do think one of the things missing in

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Speaker 2: the discussion was it ain't like Philadelphia's offense and they've won,

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Speaker 2: the Packers offense and it's not good. This is Colin

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you noticed this last night with

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Speaker 5: Michaeh Parsons. He didn't have a sack, he didn't have

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Speaker 5: when the Cowboys traded him, the reaction was completely over

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Speaker 5: the top. You were only allowed one opinion. This is

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Speaker 5: a heist for the Backers. Oh, they stole him from

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 6: I get it.

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Speaker 5: I've seen Micah get engulfed by good left tackles. What

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. There's a couple of things. One, he's right.

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Speaker 2: The left tackles for the Philadelphia Eagles are phenomenal, and

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Speaker 3: And Michaeh.

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Speaker 2: Parsons and I've known this previously, but then you go

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Speaker 2: get swallowed up. That's an accurate depiction of what happens

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Speaker 2: Here's Brady quinnlavar Arrington talking about the Giants firing Brian Dable.

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Speaker 7: The truth of the matter is he's won what eleven

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Speaker 7: of the last forty four games, and the Giants ownership

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Speaker 7: has been patient, Like after that first year they go

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Speaker 7: to the playoff like okay, like they got some momentum,

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Speaker 7: but it's been an absolute collapse. There was reports he

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Speaker 7: just it only felt like a matter of time with

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Speaker 7: the sidelines. You mentioned the blue tent situation. I mean,

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Speaker 7: all that stuff. It's just a bad look. So this

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Speaker 7: you know, general manager Joe Shane will still stay. Not

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Speaker 7: only stay, he'll be a part of the decision making

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Speaker 8: Super Bowl Champ defensive Captain Antonio Pierce, Baby, I put

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Speaker 8: his hat in the ring for a coach. He got

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Speaker 8: a raw deal in Las Vegas. Let's go with Antonio Pierce. Everyone,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. How did he get a raw deal

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what what LeVar is talking about.

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Speaker 3: Write it out. See what he does with this group,

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Speaker 3: and then if you want to get rid of him,

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Speaker 3: you get rid of him. That's what the Fox said.

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Speaker 3: Let's find out who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying, so Doug.

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Speaker 6: John Gruden has carved out this strange career path where

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Speaker 6: he's just one of the white guys at barstool. John

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Speaker 6: Gruden with the hot take, and this is kind of

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Speaker 6: served up for you, Doug. You can take it from here.

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Speaker 6: Hot take on Thursday Night football.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Thursday night football.

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Speaker 1: Man, what a treat.

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Speaker 2: It is no preparation, no times to recover, no chance

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Speaker 2: get rid of these Thursday night games.

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Speaker 1: Jump them. It's not fair to the players.

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Speaker 5: It's not fair to the coaches who goes.

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Speaker 2: Out and tries to perform at a high level with

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Speaker 2: no preparation.

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Speaker 1: Dump these games.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great, right, sounds real, sounds tough. Sound Dump these games.

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Speaker 2: Just get rid of these games.

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Speaker 3: Dump them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The reality is you're not going to do because there's

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Speaker 2: too much money. It's just such a like, it's just

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Speaker 2: such a It sounds like a politician, right, where politicians

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Speaker 2: promise things or suggest things that have zero chance of

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Speaker 3: Right, that's what Gruden said. Ah, let's just dump these games. Okay.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing with that lost revenue? Oh you

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Speaker 2: don't have a plan for that? Okay, then actually shut

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Speaker 2: the fuck up.

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Speaker 6: Next, speaking of politicians, I want to say your analogy

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Speaker 6: the Disney Google negotiation. This is this is I guess

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Speaker 6: the personification of your analogy. Sure, and that Disney at

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Speaker 3: I thought that was the reason that he was going

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Speaker 3: It's exactly what I assumed.

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Speaker 3: We want everybody to see our product. I thought that's

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Speaker 3: What did they talk about instead? If you're not talking

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Speaker 6: They just talked about sports in Bob's life and his

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Speaker 6: just like some kind of outreach from a hundreds of billionaire,

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Speaker 2: To me, it's they didn't ask him like they booked

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Speaker 2: I don't know what do we do here when we

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Speaker 2: bad on so many levels. And yes you can be

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Speaker 2: by Bygren, we got to ask you one question, just

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Speaker 3: They didn't ask one question. That's embarrassing.

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Speaker 6: Emmanuel Acho, he's the guy. What he's about to say

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't consume enough of his content to

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Speaker 6: I will say this, what you're about to hear, I

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Speaker 6: think is a sentiment in this country. It's an opinion

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Speaker 6: each week that Stefanski chooses to not play a door

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Speaker 9: There's no way you would continue to roll out Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 9: who the fans are tired of seeing, shady tars, the

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Speaker 9: There's no way you can continue to do this ignorantly

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Speaker 9: if you're not saying if Kevin Stefanski says your Doordan

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Speaker 9: not playing the season, all of Black America will ride, Well,

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Speaker 9: why can't everybody go right? But you can't be mad

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Speaker 9: if every hood cape Bleu LeVar, every season job, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Rioting that that does not feel like doing and cheek,

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Speaker 2: I do I think he actually he's rioting, No, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I get that. And and honestly that

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Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller. I actually I also again part

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Speaker 3: Did you guys know that? Yeah, it's a weird one.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it actually tracks everybody and everything is racist.

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Speaker 3: Everybody and everything is racist. Just just just remember I

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Speaker 2: I I don't what is the point of the conversation

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Speaker 6: I just think that even if he is exaggerating or

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Speaker 6: Like you see this same sentiment online that the Browns

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Speaker 6: are compromising their own ability to win, to prove shoudure

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Speaker 6: That is Gruden Thursday Night should go away, Bob Iger

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Speaker 3: Wow, this is.

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Speaker 2: A hard one today because the last two are really

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Speaker 2: as well. Uh, I'm gonna I'm actually gonna do that

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Speaker 2: having Bob Iger on during a carriage dispute which has

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 1: Because we can.

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Speaker 6: So this is uh, this is continuity. I think this

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Speaker 10: It's some boys shit going on while he went in

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Speaker 10: get two and ten. Let's try to win a game.

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Speaker 10: We got a good run game, we got a defense.

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Speaker 10: Let's try to fucking win a game. What we're doing,

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Speaker 10: you're throwing them in a mess.

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Speaker 1: That's what's the mess.

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Speaker 9: The message.

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Speaker 1: He's the mess. Success all the run game ain't a mess.

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Speaker 8: The defense ain't a mess.

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Speaker 5: Kevins s the fassi's job is on the line, right Yeah,

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Speaker 5: what would save it?

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Speaker 6: If he threw Sor in.

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Speaker 2: Here and they won their last five games, he would

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Speaker 3: Now he'll still be fired on the jump.

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Speaker 10: Okay, it's from the jump with your with yo hating

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Speaker 10: funk on, bro, because you got a personal vendeta.

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Speaker 3: That's why he won. Play not look at it.

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Speaker 10: He don't won his last five.

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Speaker 3: Get the fuck on.

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Speaker 10: No matter what the fast he got a goal, Bro.

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Speaker 6: Maybe he tied in with.

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Speaker 10: Dylan Gaber because they all got the same agent and ship.

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Speaker 10: We just got them personal ties to daling. That's what's

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Speaker 6: We're just making stuff up.

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Speaker 1: I ain't making up making that.

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Speaker 3: Nothing can do the research.

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Speaker 2: Does he have the same agent? Why would he have

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Speaker 3: You should riot because should? If should? Sanders doesn't play?

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Speaker 2: Like I know, like what, like what is wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: Kinds of like this.

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Speaker 3: Probably fucking stupid. Let alone falls.

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Speaker 2: So the head coach of a team that drafts the

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Speaker 2: So so help me out. Why are I'm almost mad

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Speaker 2: at you, Jason, but for bringing this to my attention.

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Speaker 2: gotta fire whatever coach and hire Deon Sanders. Deon Sanders

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Speaker 2: might get fired at Colorado, He'll be available, right. I

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Speaker 2: just we have fucking idiots that work in podcasts and

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Speaker 2: Edelman's won what's the point guard?

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Speaker 3: God?

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Speaker 2: He played at he played at Kentucky. Jeff Tigue's awesome, right,

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Speaker 2: their personality would get kind of gett nullified. So some

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Speaker 2: of the podcast stuff is good. The problem with it

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Speaker 2: is that there's very little filtering of guys that don't

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Speaker 2: know what the fuck they're talking about, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean even Gilbert Renez, who I know he's involved in

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Speaker 2: this latest stuff, Like Gilbert says shit that is laughably false.

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Speaker 2: But because he's Gilbert and because he's kind of made

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Speaker 2: it in the podcast world, they've been played.

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Speaker 3: Is he with is he with Amazon?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: They bumped his podcast up to Amazon? He's on covering

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Speaker 2: games whatever? Like I don't know, I just know that

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Speaker 2: these are among the stupidest shit, stupidest things I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: One we should riot if Chador doesn't play, and that

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Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski has a personal vendetta against Shador Sanders and

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Speaker 2: he has the same agent as Dylan Gabriel. That's why

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Speaker 2: he's playing Dylan Gabriel. I guess we play it because

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Speaker 2: we can't. That's it for the End of Motives podcast.

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Speaker 2: Check out the radio show every day three to five.

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Speaker 2: He's from Total to Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: I'm Doug Gottlie