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Speaker 2: How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff to renow podcasts. Hopefully everyone is doing better

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Speaker 1: than me, because on Saturday morning, I woke up and uh,

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Speaker 1: But I said, I'm doing a podcast today because I've

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Speaker 1: had a couple of days to let the Super Bowl marinate,

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Speaker 1: see everyone's takes. I've seen it all. So we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the Eagles, the Chiefs halftime, some other NFL stories

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Speaker 1: as well. We also will do a little mail bag

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Speaker 1: Got you covered every single way, and let's talk a

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Speaker 1: little football. I did want to start with this because

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Speaker 1: I moved there in twenty ten and I lived in

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Speaker 1: So this notion that the Eagles the little underdog, the

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Speaker 1: huge During the Jeffrey Lourry ownership, people forget, but one

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Speaker 1: Pretty sure that got booed because everyone wanted Ricky Williams.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of takes with the Kansay Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Goat and the tom Brady debate is fun and I

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Speaker 2: You never know.

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Speaker 1: So I just think everyone needs to pump the brakes

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Speaker 1: for six, never lost, a lot of other greats get

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Speaker 1: to championships and get worked. Happened to Peyton Manning, happened

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Speaker 1: to John Elway. I remember, it happened to Kobe and Shaq.

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Speaker 1: Google the Detroit Pistons. It happened to Kobe and Paugasol.

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Speaker 1: Google the Big Three, Boston Celtics. Sometimes you get there

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Speaker 1: and you get your ass kicked like this is not abnormal.

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Speaker 1: This is actually kind of consistent what usually happens in

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Speaker 1: pro sports every once in a while, like the Big

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Speaker 1: Bad Wolf, the top dog loses. It's pretty rare that

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Speaker 1: like Joe Montana, Tiger Woods, when they get into the

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Speaker 1: arena and when they got a chance, they always want it.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs are actually much more like some of these

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Speaker 1: other teams. Now, you can give me the point differential,

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Speaker 1: the difference of them or the Giants, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean what I remember about the Giants beating the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: They beat them twice, close game blowout, Like who cares?

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Speaker 2: You lost the.

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Speaker 1: Game right now? Is it easier to stop? I'd argue

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Speaker 1: it's easier to stomach getting your ass kicked because at

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Speaker 1: least especially in that game, I mean over before halftime. Then, Like,

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Speaker 1: ask Patriot fans about those two loss of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: like those are hard atole about the Malcolm Butler pick,

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Speaker 1: like that's something you never forget, Chiefs. You'll forget this

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Speaker 1: game pretty quick, like week one can't get here fast enough.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to simp here for Andy and Mahomes,

457
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Speaker 1: but everyone's acting like it's just over. Give me a

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Speaker 1: break some other things in the National Football League. I

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Speaker 1: think the Deebo thing's interesting because at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: given how he's played the last couple of years, some

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Speaker 1: of the injuries had, he's a more famous player than

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Speaker 1: he is a productive player, and he also makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. So the reports last week that in

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Speaker 1: his exit meeting he asked for a trade, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that cover the forty nine ers said

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Speaker 1: it's like someone trying to break up with their significant

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Speaker 1: other before their significant other breaks up with them. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people thought that Deebo Samuel would have been

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Speaker 1: cut or traded before the season even ended, not like

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Speaker 1: during twenty twenty four, but like as the Niners season

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Speaker 1: was unraveling, it was like, well, Debo's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the team next year. Honestly, that conversation started happening

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Speaker 1: last year when they drafted Ricky Pearsall in the first round,

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Speaker 1: so you got a first round receiver. They were like

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Speaker 1: dead set on paying Brandon Ayuk, which they ended up

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Speaker 1: doing and then his leg snapped midway through the season.

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Speaker 1: They were in contract negotiations with George Kittle. They have

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Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings, who's one of the best third wide receivers

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Speaker 1: in the league under contract and in theory Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: comes back from an injury. So like, yeah, Debo's was

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Speaker 1: kind of gonna be the odd man out. The problem is,

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Speaker 1: I don't see what his value as. And we talked

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Speaker 1: about this with Cooper Cup. When you're an older player

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Speaker 1: and you've had some injuries and you make a lot

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Speaker 1: of money, it is difficult to trade you. Now, Debo,

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Speaker 1: like Cooper Cup, they have been major figures.

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Speaker 2: On winning teams.

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Speaker 1: So they are going to be a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: that want to bring in that guy that just knows

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Speaker 1: how to win and knows how to compete and is

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Speaker 1: not scared of the moment. So I think there was

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Speaker 1: gonna be value in Debo, uh, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much. And I think you're looking at a guy

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Speaker 1: getting traded for a fifth or sixth round pick. Jed

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Speaker 1: York also mentioned at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: A lot of owners go there.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like a it's time to mix with

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Speaker 1: the other owners and corporate sponsors, and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like a you know, everyone's rubbing elbows with everybody, kind

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Speaker 1: of glad handed and scratching each other's back, and just

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Speaker 1: a lot of good to see it good to see

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Speaker 1: if thanks for paying us, what do you need? So

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Speaker 1: he was quoted essentially, I think he ran into brock

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Speaker 1: Perty's agent as well, like, this contract is gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: and I would imagine this contract probably happens in the

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Speaker 1: next two or three weeks. The only thing that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fascinating is like, what are the actual numbers? But

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid, and he's gonna get paid a

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Speaker 1: lot of money, and this franchise is going to go

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Speaker 1: as he goes. So like if this franchise is going

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Speaker 1: to continue to be good, I've said it over and over.

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Speaker 1: This draft is.

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Speaker 2: Huge for them.

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Speaker 1: Look at the Eagles when they had the draft of

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, they were drafting high. So when the Eagles

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four draft.

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Speaker 2: I guess it would have been twenty twenty three draft.

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Speaker 1: They were drafted, they had the ninth pick because of

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Speaker 1: a previous trade that they got Jalen Carter. Well, their

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Speaker 1: first two picks were Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith.

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Speaker 2: So part of.

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Speaker 1: Drafting high is you can take advantage of it in

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Speaker 1: every round. And I think when you look at the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, like they have the eleventh pick, that

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Speaker 1: also means they have a high pick in the second round.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not expecting them to come out of this draft.

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Speaker 1: For Jalen Carter, He's not you know, there is no

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter in this draft. Maybe Abdual Carter becomes some

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Speaker 1: version of like Michael Parsons, but.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna be there at eleven.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only reason Jalen Carter was there at

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Speaker 1: nine was because of the incident that happened in the

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Speaker 1: with the car crash and people dying. Right, But if

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Speaker 1: the Niners are gonna maintain a high level of play,

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Speaker 1: like I don't know if you've seen some of the

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Speaker 1: highlights Brian Baldinger has put out, Nolan Smith looked like

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Speaker 1: a fucking dominant football player in that Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: he was making plays all down the stretch of the season,

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Speaker 1: definitely in the playoffs. So if you're gonna pay your

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Speaker 1: quarterback a lot of money and he's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: like some all time great player because he's not, you

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Speaker 1: need your team to be good. And to me, for

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, it starts this April with the draft,

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Speaker 1: A lot of takes on the halftime show. My overall

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Speaker 1: opinion on is this, I think Kendrick Lamar is probably

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Speaker 1: more famous on the Internet and with younger people than

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Speaker 1: like those people realize on the outside.

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Speaker 2: With normal people, especially older people.

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Speaker 1: What I think of like twenty twenty two when LA

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Speaker 1: had the Super Bowl and it was Doctor Dre Snoop

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Speaker 1: Dogg eminem in fifty cent Doctor Dre and Snoop Dogg,

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Speaker 1: you could argue had two of, if not the two

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Speaker 1: most important rap slash hip hop albums in the history

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Speaker 1: of the genre, in the Chronic and Doggie Style. Doggie

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Speaker 1: Style I think was the second or third CD I

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Speaker 1: ever purchased as a kid. It's still to this day

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Speaker 1: is I would say Banger for Banger as good of

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Speaker 1: a CD that's ever been made in the history of music.

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Speaker 1: I'd put it ahead of the Chronic, and the Chronic

560
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Speaker 1: was sweet, but like those guys had been famous at

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Speaker 1: the time of that performance for thirty plus years because

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Speaker 1: he's a white guy, rapping is like one of the

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Speaker 1: most unique talents in the history of America. And obviously

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Speaker 1: fifty cent was just an all time rocket ship and

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Speaker 1: very mainstream I would say I and listen. I loved

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Speaker 1: rap and hip hop growing up, and I listened to

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Speaker 1: it all through college. I would say the last ten

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Speaker 1: plus years, I'm not as locked in and don't like

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Speaker 1: it as much. I kind of find out who things

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Speaker 1: are through the Internet. I enjoy. I wouldn't say I'm

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Speaker 1: like a Drake loyalist, but I know way more about

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Speaker 1: Drake than I do Kendrick Lamour. And I also think

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Speaker 1: Drake is way more famous than Kendrick Lamar, even though

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Speaker 1: they're viewed as rivals and they've had this beef. The

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Speaker 1: other thing is I remember I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: watched this, but a couple of years ago, Kanye and

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Speaker 1: Drake did this concert at in Los Angeles. I think

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Speaker 1: it was at the Coliseum and it was on like

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. I remember watching it was like unreal. Drake

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Speaker 1: is an awesome performed He also like part of Kendrick,

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Speaker 1: like his style. When people keep saying I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what he was saying, I would say the average human

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Speaker 1: being like doesn't know many Kendrick songs, and by all accounts,

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Speaker 1: he didn't play most of his most popular songs. I

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Speaker 1: also think, like this beef, the two have going.

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Speaker 2: Because people are on.

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Speaker 1: Twitter and a lot of media people are. I think

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Speaker 1: it feels a lot bigger. And I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: people didn't talk about it, but like back to Snoop

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Speaker 1: Dogg and Doctor Dre, they were part of a national

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Speaker 1: beef that literally everyone knew about. People ended up getting

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Speaker 1: killed because of it. I don't know two of the

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Speaker 1: greatest rappers in the history of music in BIGI and Tubac,

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Speaker 1: So I just think that we overrated, like how popular

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Speaker 1: and mainstream this guy was, and like it didn't do

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Speaker 1: much for I thought it was kind of boring. I

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Speaker 1: don't really know many of the songs, but like I

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Speaker 1: just look back to a couple of years ago, like

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Speaker 1: universally Doctor Dre and that performance in Los Angeles was

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Speaker 1: just awesome. We also have followed those guys' careers for decades,

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Speaker 1: and I think the average person, especially in like sports media,

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Speaker 1: especially a younger guy who's like really into the Drake

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Speaker 1: Kendrick lamar Beef, thinks Kendrick is like way more famous

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Speaker 1: than he actually is. It'd be like Jared Goff walking

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Speaker 1: into a room and then Tom Brady and Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: walking into a room. So I think it was a

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Speaker 1: weird pick to begin with. I think it would have

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Speaker 1: been way easier to I don't know, go like Lil

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Speaker 1: Wayne cash Money and master p out there in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: But I'd be honest, I seen in a lot of this, Like,

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Speaker 1: oh Drake, how does he ever recover from this? All

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Speaker 1: he has to think is like I would have been

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Speaker 1: way better as a halftime show. He's probably right. A

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Speaker 1: couple other quick stories Matt Patricia interviewing with Ohio State

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Speaker 1: for their defensive coordinator position. Kind of crazy that Ohio

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Speaker 1: State wins the Natty, they lose Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 2: They lose their defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. Understandable. He got six million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: goes to the Raiders, couldn't turn down. I mean, who's

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Speaker 1: he was making two and a half million, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: offer me six in Vegas, I'm there. The losing the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator to Penn State was a little weird, but

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Speaker 1: I maybe there's more to the story that I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen yet. Obviously got paid a lot of money, but

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Speaker 1: you would think, like Ohio State is every bit as

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's literally we beat Penn State all the time.

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Speaker 2: But he's gone.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Patricia, there aren't any NFL defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: jobs open, and all signs point to Kellen Moore, who

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Speaker 1: officially became the head coach today, going with Brandon Staley,

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Speaker 1: who's his guy. I think that'd be an interesting fit

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Speaker 1: for Patricia, who I don't know is known as the

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Speaker 1: biggest personality, who I think has really really tried a lot,

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Speaker 1: like Belichick to kind of show his personality more. Would

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Speaker 1: imagine he would want that job. One because you can.

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Speaker 2: Do good things there.

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Speaker 1: You get loaded, you know, your roster is full of

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Speaker 1: NFL players, And two they pay you a lot of money. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's now time for the Chasing Challenges segment. The spotlights

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Speaker 1: the biggest hurdles faced by athletes, teams, and organizations. These

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Speaker 1: segments draw parallels between the resilience of sports figures and

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Speaker 1: the innovative mindset of business leaders. Just as athletes push

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Speaker 1: boundaries and redefine what's possible, bus decision makers navigate complex

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Speaker 1: challenges with Microsoft's AI solutions, Simplified Cloud and Data management

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Speaker 1: and Trustworthy AI. By showcasing the challenger mindset, these segments

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Speaker 1: with confidence, speaking new ideas, and driving impactful change. I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. I think NFL films they had followed Belichick

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots around in like two thousand and nine

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Speaker 1: or twenty ten, and it was the final game of

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Speaker 1: the season. They were playing the Ravens in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and they were getting killed, and Belichick and Brady are

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Speaker 1: standing right next to each other, and Belichick's just talking

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Speaker 1: to him like, we just got to get better. I

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Speaker 1: gotta do a better job. I got to bring in

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Speaker 1: better players. And it was right around the transition of

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Speaker 1: when they started getting rid of the Randy Mosses, the

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Speaker 1: Wes Welkers, and they kind of changed to their new

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Speaker 1: group Gronkowski, Edelman, mccordy, and those got high towers, and

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Speaker 1: those guys became basically the finishing part of their dynasty

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Speaker 1: over the next six seven, eight years. And I think

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Speaker 1: with the chief you get your ass kick like that,

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Speaker 1: everyone is.

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Speaker 2: Gonna keep gunning for you.

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Speaker 1: In the AFC, you kind of got to take a

666
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Speaker 1: step back, and it's not as difficult, like the Chiefs

667
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Speaker 1: don't have a motivational problem like their guys, especially their

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Speaker 1: their lead player. It's just a motivated individual. But from

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Speaker 1: a team building standpoint, it's like, what do we gotta do?

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Speaker 1: How do we take what just happened? And this season

671
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: was for a season where they won fifteen games and

672
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Speaker 1: were in the super Bowl, was not as smooth as

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Speaker 1: some of their previous years. It's like how do we improve?

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Speaker 1: Not how do we make improvements on the margins, but

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Speaker 1: like do we need to make something big happen? Do

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Speaker 1: we need to take a big swing for the fence?

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Speaker 1: Do we need to make a dramatic change, Because they've

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Speaker 1: done that over the years. A couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: when they lost to the Cincinnati Bengals, what do.

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Speaker 2: They do that offseason?

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Speaker 1: They traded Tyreek Hill. When they lost to the Patriots

682
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Speaker 1: back in the day, what did they do? They fired

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Speaker 1: Bob Sutton and they went to get Steve Spagnola. So

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Speaker 1: one thing I know about Andy Reid and Brett Veach

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Speaker 1: is like they embrace adversity and they'll figure out a

686
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Speaker 1: way to do something big. Because I've already texted with

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Speaker 1: some people in the operation. They said, Hey, we're already

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Speaker 1: on to next season. And that's the mindset in that

689
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Speaker 1: operation and over the next month. I don't think any

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Speaker 1: team will be as aggressive in trying to make a

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Speaker 1: change that not only puts them right back in the situation,

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Speaker 1: but gives them an opportunity to host a hoist another

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Speaker 1: Lombardi where I bet they feel like, right now, it's

694
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Speaker 1: like we were close, but we actually weren't that close

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Speaker 1: because we just got beat by multiple touchdowns in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and we're down like one hundred and nothing

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Speaker 1: at halftime. So I think the Chiefs sometimes, I think

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Speaker 1: it's widely agreed upon that you only learn so much

699
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Speaker 1: from success, where you really learn through.

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Speaker 2: Adversity and failure.

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Speaker 1: Look at the Eagles last year, the way the season ended.

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Speaker 1: They lost all those games, they got their butt kicked

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and they kind of had to hit

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00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: the reset button, and they changed a bunch of players

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Speaker 1: on defense, they changed a bunch of coordinators, and it

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00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: really paid dividends. And I think the Chiefs are gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do It's probably not gonna be as big

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Speaker 1: of a wholesale change last year as the Eagles, but

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some personnel moves. Did you know,

710
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: people be like, damn, they really did that and I

711
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: think that's what it takes some times to turn the

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Speaker 1: thing around. So that's it for this week's Chasing Challenges.

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Speaker 1: Remember Microsoft's AI solutions empower you to take bold steps

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Speaker 1: learn more. Okay, let's dive into a little thing we

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Speaker 1: like to call the middle cough mail bag at John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in. I

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00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: saw this story. I just want to hit on before

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Speaker 1: we get some mail bag questions. Did one of the

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Speaker 1: things the Jets told Rogers when he had flown back

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Speaker 1: to the Big Apple to meet with Glenn and company

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Speaker 1: was that he could no longer go on Pat mcaviie

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. And I just think I think Aaron Rodgers Jets'

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00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: career ended during the season when the owner and his

728
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Speaker 1: sons and they were all taking jabs at each other

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Speaker 1: like it was clearly over. And I think information travels

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty pretty easily to others. And if you're

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Speaker 1: interviewing for the Jets' job, and you're a guy like

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, where you go going into the interview like

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Speaker 1: I got a good chance to get this job. You're

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Speaker 1: using your agent and other people in your circle to

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Speaker 1: find out whether it's through Tannenbaum and the crew that

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Speaker 1: was associated with the Jets running the search, where Woody's

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00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: head's at, what he wants to know. Part of interviewing

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Speaker 1: with somebody, especially in a situation like becoming a head coach,

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Speaker 1: You're not going to go in and pussy foot your

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00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: way around and be scared to say what you really believe.

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Speaker 1: But you also don't want to go in blind. And

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00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: I have a pretty good idea of some key things

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Speaker 1: that mean a lot to the owner, so you can

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Speaker 1: hammer that home. I would imagine Aaron Rodgers and Woody

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Speaker 1: Johnson their relationship.

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Speaker 2: I mean, give me a break.

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Speaker 1: And so when you tell Aaron Rodgers that he can't

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Speaker 1: go on Pat McAfee, you know you see this sometimes

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Speaker 1: like big college football programs don't let freshmen talk. Some

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Speaker 1: coaches are very hesitant how much rookies are allowed to speak.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, forty years old, he's one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: players in the history.

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Speaker 2: Of the league.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't tell like what he can and

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00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: can't do on his off day unless you know that's

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Speaker 1: really gonna piss him off, and that's gonna just end

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Speaker 1: it right there. So it's almost like you're not just

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00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: gonna go into the meeting saying like, pack up your

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00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: shit and leave, but you're gonna say things to him

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Speaker 1: that you know is gonna make him go I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be here. I'm not playing under these restrictions.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has made hundreds of millions of dollars playing football.

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Speaker 1: He has been at a point in his career where

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Speaker 1: I mean, hell, the Jets let him dictate everything going on.

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Speaker 1: Now that's no longer the case. But still to say

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Speaker 1: what I can and can't say or do on my

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Speaker 1: day off and go on Pat McAfee show, that's clearly

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Speaker 1: something they knew was gonna get under his skin and

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Speaker 1: essentially in the relationship, and that that's what happened. Now,

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Speaker 1: you could argue it's the right thing to do, regardless

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Speaker 1: like in the relationship with the with Aaron Rodgers, move on,

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Speaker 1: I think it is. But I think that story is

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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot more steam. Like they told him

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to say things to Pat and aj Hawk.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, bro, It's like.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be doing Pat show no matter where he goes.

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Speaker 2: It ain't that big a deal.

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Speaker 1: Now, you could argue at this point in time in

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Speaker 1: his career, it's it's it's one thing when he was

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Speaker 1: humming and competing for MVPs or gonna get traded out

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00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: of the Packers. Like, it's probably pretty exhausting. On the

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Speaker 1: national platform, you know, Brady and Roethlisberger and all the

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00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: coaches usually go on like their local radio affiliate, typically

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Speaker 1: the station that had as your broadcasts, like wherever your

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00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: team's games are on on Sundays. But like just a

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Speaker 1: lot of people pay attention to that McAfee interview and

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Speaker 1: it gets cut up, it goes viral. I do understand

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Speaker 1: where they're coming from, and it can be a little exhausting.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, Aaron, you're still playing in this thing. Obviously,

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00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: players and coaches go on that show, but literally not

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Speaker 1: every Tuesday during the season. So yeah, I just think

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00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: that that story it feels a little, you know, more

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00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: of a headline grabber than the actual substance behind it,

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Speaker 1: Like it wasn't about Pat McAfee in the show. It

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00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: was more about like, if you are gonna stay, which

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00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: we don't want you to stay, you're gonna do literally

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00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: everything we tell you to do. And Aaron Rodgers goes,

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00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't do what everyone tells me to do. So

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Speaker 1: it's like this, this ain't gonna work. It was almost

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00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: like I'm breaking up with you before you break up

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00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: with me, which was inevitable, a little like Debo requesting

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00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: a trade. Well, they were probably gonna trade you anyway,

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00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: so it makes for a sexy headline. But the inevitable

804
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: was written out three months ago. Tom Brady has sucked

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00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: in year one for one reason, and one reason. Only

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00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: one of his games he has called this season have

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Speaker 1: been blowouts. I cannot remember a close game that he

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00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: has called. If the games were better, he would be

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Speaker 1: better from the middlemen. Actually, I'm starting to come around

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00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: on the Kaffia. We're all part of the Kaffia. There's

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Speaker 1: something about the coffee. I I kind of I got

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00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: a soft spot for Cozinostro. Uh, it's our coffee. But middlemen,

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Speaker 1: it obviously sticks some about middleman. I I don't love

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean calling being in your first year doing the job,

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00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: and if game aren't close, it is hard to be

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Speaker 1: good at the gig. It is much easier to call

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Speaker 1: a game in the ebb and flow of the action

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Speaker 1: when it's back and forth. And you're right, it does

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Speaker 1: feel like he's called a lot of games that were

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Speaker 1: pretty lopsided. I'd have to go back and like look

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00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: game by game, but there's definitely merit.

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Speaker 2: To what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I'll give him credit on the Super Bowl, like I didn't.

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Speaker 1: The game's so big and it was out of hand

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Speaker 1: so fast. I had no issue, you know, with anything

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Speaker 1: he did during the Super Bowl. My whole thing with

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Speaker 1: Brady And maybe this is lost and maybe this is impossible,

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00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: but I just think one of his great characteristics and

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00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: qualities is when the camera's off talking with someone else

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00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: about football, about just bissing of being a guy. And

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00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: he's just always been one of the great guys because

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00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: he's been one of the great teammates in the history

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Speaker 1: of the league. But when the camera goes on, because

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00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: he's morphed into this businessman for the last I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen plus years, he's very corporate, and it's just I

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00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: don't know if he can ever strike that balance. I've

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00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: probably been two R show on him at times, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just giving my real reaction on a Sunday night

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Speaker 1: after I watch one of his games. But then I

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00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: watch him, like with Colin, just talking about football and

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00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: he can relax a little bit. I don't know. I

844
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a balance he'll ever be able

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Speaker 1: to strike. You know, Aikman and Collinsworth and some of

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00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: the other guys, you know, John Madden, even Gruden, they

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00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: just kind of their personality shined a little bit more

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Speaker 1: through it. Some people have said, you know, Brady's voice

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00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: can be a little high pitched, and that's you know,

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Speaker 1: I would say, off putting.

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00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: A little bit. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Most people don't have like a perfect broadcast voice. I

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00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: think it's less about the voice, you know, Romo's voices

854
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: all over the place. I think it's more just being

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00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: relatable on the broadcast, like Tom just do like when

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00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: you're talking to Edelman without the swear words in the

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00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: locker room when the cameras are off.

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Speaker 2: I think that will.

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Speaker 1: Be one key for him moving forward. You could argue

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Speaker 1: it's not a key because he doesn't have to. He's

861
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: making thirty seven million dollars a year and Fox is

862
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna ride him like Secretariat. If you're McVeigh and less Snead,

863
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: you have to feel pretty good about losing to the

864
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: Eagles by twelve yards. And when the rest of the

865
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: field got dismantled, do you think Snead should say fuck

866
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: them picks again and lay down the red carpet for

867
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: Stafford to can. It feels like there's some weird vibes

868
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: with Stafford and the Rams, and it feels like it's

869
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: been like this for a couple of years, which is

870
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: weird because I would say the Rams and Sean McVay

871
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: have completely changed the conversation on Matthew Stafford's career, not

872
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: that you know. I would say in Detroit he was

873
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: viewed as this really talented guy that never wins and

874
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: makes a sh hit load of money. He's really rich.

875
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: He has no impactful games that anyone thinks about. But

876
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of talent, big arm, and a

877
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: lot of money. But that's it. And he comes to

878
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: the Rams and he's constantly playing in big games. He's

879
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: constantly playing for a team in the playoffs, obviously won

880
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. And it's like their relationship and maybe

881
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: it's just simple as like they're trying to pivot off

882
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: of them. But whenever I see like they could trade.

883
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: Them for who for what?

884
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: Like who would play quarterback? They drafted Stetson Bennett last

885
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: year in the middle rounds and he was gone all

886
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: season long. He clearly wasn't good enough, and they made

887
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: a trade for Jimmy.

888
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: Garoppolo to be their backup.

889
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: So it's like, I get you don't want to give

890
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: Stafford fifty million dollars a year, even on a short

891
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: term contract. If you're Stafford, You're like, I'm playing for

892
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: like thirty million dollars a year when some of these

893
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: other guys are making fifty five.

894
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: What the hell are we doing?

895
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: And it's a complicated situation, and I think in an

896
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: ideal world they would like to have a kind of

897
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: a transitional period, maybe even a guy sit behind him

898
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: for a year. Would Stafford handle that?

899
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: Well?

900
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: You know, his wife was like talking shit about them

901
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: moving on from Cooper Cup. She's like, my husband wants

902
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: to win, Like, well, yeah, your husband's only ever won here.

903
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: If I was less need, I'd say, hey, listen, Kelly,

904
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: uh for you act like we don't want to win.

905
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: All you guys know is losing. You guys came here

906
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: and all we've done is win. So yeah, we're moving

907
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: off Cooper Cup. Not because we're just some like raging assholes.

908
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: He's thirty two years old. He is not worth twenty

909
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: million dollars. This is a business and the reason your

910
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: husband has made four hundred plus million dollars. It's a

911
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: lucrative business. But you got to produce when we're paying

912
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: me that much money. And Pooka now is our ace

913
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: in the hole. So yeah, we got to make some

914
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: tough decisions. But it's not because we don't want to

915
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: win shit.

916
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: All we do here is win.

917
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: So I wonder if, like, if I was less need

918
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: and I saw Kelly Stafford's comments, like, I'd be kind

919
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: of bad, like, oh, yeah, we're just we're trying to

920
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: tank this season.

921
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: That's really what we do around here. Give me a break. Uh.

922
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I feel like everything's on

923
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: the table there. I don't know what their backup plan

924
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: would be if they were to trade Stafford. I think

925
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: they're less likely to do what you think and do

926
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: some crazy trade in building around Stafford at thirty seven

927
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: years old, Avid, listener to your podcast and I would

928
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: love to be on the podcast one day. Vice first

929
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: question for the mail bag. When you spoke about your

930
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: time in Nola, you mentioned all the people you met

931
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: and had an opportunity to speak with. My question is,

932
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: given your profession, how do you balance being a fan

933
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: of someone you once watched work with versus being professional

934
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: curious to your thoughts. I don't even doesn't even cross

935
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: my mind. I just act normal. I just act like

936
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: I normally would, and like I'm I'm not a big

937
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: like give you a piece of paper, get an autograph guy,

938
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: But I've never been that guy.

939
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm not.

940
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: You know, let's take a picture in the hotel GM

941
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: while you're trying to get a workout in. But I

942
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that. If I was selling insurance, well

943
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: maybe I would have. But I just act like myself.

944
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm also not a journalist, Like I don't there's not

945
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: some like unwritten rule book that I'm supposed to be following.

946
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: I do whatever the fuck I want to do, and

947
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't mean that like in an arrogant way.

948
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like.

949
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: They aren't like professional rules that I have to follow. Right,

950
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm in a space where there aren't really rules. We

951
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of get to do whatever we want. And if

952
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of someone, I just go up and

953
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: tell them that I I admire what you've done. Like

954
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty at the Miami super Bowl, it was

955
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: the Niners were the Chiefs, and I flew out there

956
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: and hung out for the week.

957
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: It was cool. I had never been to Miami.

958
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I get it. Places badass. One

959
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: thing I'd like to that I do regret is I

960
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: was walking in one day to kind of the Radio

961
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: row Era area and I was walking right next to

962
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: Little John. It's just me and Little John stride for stride,

963
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: and I look at him and I go, my name's

964
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: John's two or maybe it's like I'm also a John.

965
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: And I remember him looking at me. I'm like, that's

966
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: the stupidest thing I've ever said in my life. I

967
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: can't believe I just said that. I don't even think

968
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: he responded. I felt like an idiot. I was like,

969
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: that was dumb, and we just kind of went our

970
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: separate ways. But I saw Dana White in there and like, like,

971
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a big UFC guy. I don't order the fights.

972
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: Not because I don't appreciate how tough these guys are.

973
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: It's just like I'm not. I just don't really now.

974
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: If I'm with friends or people and their order, I will,

975
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: but a lot of you that order all the fights,

976
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: like it's not necessarily me. But having grown up, you know,

977
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: going to college when Chuck was big and he lived

978
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: in San Louis where I went to college, I just

979
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: really admire the.

980
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: Business he built.

981
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: And I remember him just walking by and I just

982
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: went up to him and fell a bald guy, and

983
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, I really admire everything.

984
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: He has done at the UFC.

985
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: And he started talking when you started bsing for a minute,

986
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: I think he was kind of taken back by me

987
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: just saying that. And I just when you see someone

988
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: just say what you think. I guess now, I also

989
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: have been around because of the job I'm in enough

990
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: famous people like I'm kind of knowing to leave people alone.

991
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: So I I think I don't know. I don't really

992
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: follow any rules because there are no rules in this

993
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: world that.

994
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm in.

995
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: As a Cowboy fan. The past year has been rough,

996
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: resigning Dak and hiring Shady. I'm sure we'll give us

997
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: a couple more nine to eleven win seasons, but we

998
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: have no shot at winning Vick. This is the least

999
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: interested I've ever been in the team and would have

1000
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: preferred to reboot and tank and build off CD and Micah.

1001
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: As an NFL fan, what do you think of the

1002
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys direction? I will say there's never a worse time

1003
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: in the business model that is the NFL than when

1004
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: your fans start feeling I don't hate it, I'm not

1005
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: fired up, I just don't really give a shit. And

1006
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys kind of felt a little like

1007
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: that this year, and I think if things continue on

1008
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: the path, they could feel like that the next couple

1009
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: of years, kind of the you know, the last couple

1010
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: of years, potentially like Jerry's life, which would be kind

1011
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: of crazy given his whole thing is all he's been like.

1012
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: We dominate the headlines. We're interesting. Whether we win it

1013
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: all and they don't ever win at all, We're gonna

1014
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: be interesting. And it feels like the Cowboys aren't really

1015
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: that interesting now. One thing I think is gonna be

1016
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: on the table is I think Michah Parsons is going

1017
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: to be discussed.

1018
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1019
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: Whether they actually pull the trigger or not, I don't know.

1020
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: But think about the Browns, their general manager, who has

1021
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: been adamant. I don't blame him. We are not doing this,

1022
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: even though Miles Garrett's like, listen, no hard feelings, trade me,

1023
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: trade me, trade me, come get me, trade me. Where

1024
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: clearly Michaeh. Parsons doesn't want to leave the Cowboys. But

1025
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: like I think Stephen Jones said it in the fall,

1026
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: and rumors have been flying during Super Bowl Week like this,

1027
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Stude's gonna be quote unquote available but like open for

1028
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: a discussion. Right, you could call the Eagles for Jalen

1029
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: Carter like they're not having a discussion with you, like

1030
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: in theory you would call about Michaeh Parsons and would

1031
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: hang up on you. They're having discussions. So if you

1032
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: get two ones, two two's and kind of help reset

1033
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: your franchise, is that the right move.

1034
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: The problem is.

1035
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: If you just get a bunch of young guys and

1036
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: they are a couple of years away from being really

1037
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: high end players, it doesn't necessarily help you now, and

1038
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man. I think it's gonna

1039
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: be a long, long season for Dallas, not because they're

1040
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: gonna be terrible. I mean clearly last year with they

1041
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: had so many injuries and they were still pretty competitive

1042
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: when they had enough guys on the field even with

1043
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: Dac out. And I think if you're healthy and depending

1044
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: on how the draft goes, you can compete for a

1045
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: wild card spot. But it's just gonna feel like we're

1046
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: not winning a playoff game, and I think it's got

1047
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: to hurt.

1048
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1049
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: Part of the Dallas Cowboy brand was We're just the

1050
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: biggest brand in the NFL, and now it's like your

1051
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: second fiddle by a mile to the Eagles in your

1052
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: own division. Not because they have quote unquote more fans

1053
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: worldwide or whatever, but like they're winning super Bowls. You

1054
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: haven't even been to the conference championship game. Have not

1055
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: been to the conference championship game in two and a

1056
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: half decades. This was a question that was asked before

1057
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, but I I just wanted to include it.

1058
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: What do you think the spread would be for tears

1059
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: cried before the national anthem or during the national anthem.

1060
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: I think Chris Jones ought to be a half tier

1061
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: favorite over Sirianni. He cries more frequently, but I could

1062
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: see Sirianni saving up.

1063
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: More for the big moment. Yeah.

1064
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: I think Chris Jones is the Dick ver Meal of players.

1065
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, you just give him a big moment, he

1066
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: takes it in in crist and you know, I wonder

1067
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: if Sirianni there was more focus. I wonder if Sirianni

1068
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen any quotes on this.

1069
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: When he did it the first time.

1070
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: You just coaching the Super Bowl, however old. He was

1071
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: thirty nine, forty years old, thirty eight.

1072
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: At the time.

1073
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: You've been a head coach for two years. During the

1074
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, facing Andy Reid and Mahomes, you just kind

1075
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 1: of overcome with emotion. Where Chris Jones to me, he's

1076
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Speaker 1: just he's crying at Super Bowl. He's crying at his

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01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: daughter's first grade graduation. He probably cries some postgames like

1078
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 1: you just emotionally moved. It's kind of Dick for Meal.

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01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean I felt like Dick for Meal cried every

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: other press conference he ever had. This is a professional question.

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01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to get a job in football, but

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01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: due to some family stuff, I had to work as

1083
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: soon as high school ended. I've been considering going back

1084
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: to college as I've been in a sales role for the.

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01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: Past four years.

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01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: Of course, your network matters, but how much emphesis do

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01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: teams put on the requirement of a degree when becoming

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: a scout or member of the front office. I truly

1089
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: want to pursue this, and just want to pursue and

1090
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: just want to know what I should focus on. Twenty

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: three year old Browns fan from South Texas. I don't

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: think necessarily like having a degree is the reason you

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01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: get hired in jobs in the NFL, specifically scouting. But

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: I can't imagine there are many scouts for people working

1095
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: in the front office that didn't go to college. You

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01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: know some former players that maybe left school early to

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01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: go play in the NFL, or when they left college

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: to go pursue an NFL career, didn't quote unquote graduate,

1099
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: like no one's checking. Like if I was a fifth

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01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: year guy and I left Oklahoma and had trained for

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01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: the draft and I still a ten credit short, no

1102
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: one cares. I think it would be very, very difficult

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01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: to not have attended college and get hired in the NFL.

1104
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: So if that is truly a desire of yours, I

1105
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: think it would be baseasically impossible to do. Now, you

1106
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: could circumvent that by maybe getting in sales, ticket sales

1107
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: or one of those jobs, and maybe they require I

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01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: don't know. It's hard for me to know, because when

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01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: I got hired, I got hired from college football, I

1110
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: was working. You know, I already had a college degree,

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01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: not that it came up.

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't remember the interview, but.

1113
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't have got hired in college football without my.

1114
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: Degree at cal Paly.

1115
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: So you're talking to someone who who thinks, you know,

1116
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: college education can be extremely overrated and people that I

1117
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: would say, go around it and never experience it. It

1118
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: does not dictate your future success. We obviously know a

1119
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: lot of people that not only never graduated college, that

1120
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: dropped out of college.

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01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: That want on to have a lot of success.

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01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: Now, overall, I think statistics back up that you are

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01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: more likely to earn more money going to college because,

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01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: like you said, your network and you meet different a

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01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: new level of people that you just wouldn't have known otherwise.

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01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: But I think in this situation, just like a lot

1127
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: of situations, you know, whether it's certain industries, it is

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01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: very difficult to just get your foot in the door

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Speaker 1: if on your resume you didn't go to college.

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: Fair or not.

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01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: But those are just kind of the price of admission

1132
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: of the current quote unquote rules to get accepted to

1133
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: even have a chance to get entry as an opportunity.

1134
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not trying to recommend or not.

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: But you're really young. You know, you're twenty three years old.

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01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: I would imagine you can do now college a lot online,

1137
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: probably pretty easy. We would have had online classes when

1138
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: I was in school fifteen to twenty years ago.

1139
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Speaker 2: Been incredible.

1140
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: We had to actually go to class. Well, go to class.

1141
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: You're supposed to go to class. Mailbag name for the fans,

1142
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: the coordinators. You're the head coach and your fans are

1143
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: the coordinators.

1144
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: We have a very very.

1145
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: You guys got good ideas. You guys come up with

1146
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: a lot of good ideas, and I appreciate that.

1147
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: Uh wanted to send a question for the bag.

1148
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: I was just watching your podcast where you talked about

1149
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett and the NFL expanding to Australia in the

1150
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: eighteen Games. I'm from Canada and a huge fan. Do

1151
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on why the NFL is so

1152
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: inclined to expand to so many other countries and not

1153
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: coming back to Canada at all. We are a country

1154
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: that is that has football as part of our sporting

1155
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: culture and of many Canadian players currently in the league.

1156
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: Would love to hear your thoughts. I think if the

1157
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: podcast you're referring to, I think my theory is pretty simple.

1158
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: Why they're going to Ireland or why going to Brazil

1159
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: or I think Australia is because Netflix and streaming. It's

1160
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: just a land grab, right. They've got America, and I

1161
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: would imagine a decent amount of people in some of

1162
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: these Canadian markets watched the NFL. Where they're really trying

1163
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: to expand is England, is Ireland, is Germany, is South America, Australia,

1164
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: New Zealand. So when a game goes on Netflix, it's

1165
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: not just a dude in Dallas, or a dude in Seattle,

1166
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: or even a guy in British Columbia. It's like the

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Speaker 1: dude in Sydney, Australia, guy in New Zealand, guy in Germany.

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Speaker 1: Got a cat in Spain is watching and I do

1169
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: wonder if that is kind of their move on this,

1170
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: because I think they're expanding worldwide because these streamers have

1171
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: the capability to stream worldwide, you know, like, don't quote

1172
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: me on this, but and for those of you that

1173
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: live internationally know better. I've I haven't been international, like

1174
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: lived internationally.

1175
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: I went for like a month when I.

1176
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: Was two thousand and six to Spain. They didn't have

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: Fox and CBS. So now, granted I went in the summer,

1178
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: football wasn't even being played, but I'm not sure you

1179
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: could watch now. Obviously it's twenty twenty five. It's dramatically different.

1180
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: And maybe YouTube TV. I just think Netflix and Amazon

1181
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: Prime and the streaming services are just game changing, game

1182
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: changing Tayle Wind on this, This is an interesting question.

1183
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: I took some questions before, like the recent batch, so

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Speaker 1: I'll answer over the next couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Some of you guys that have have hit me recently,

1186
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 2: but I've.

1187
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: Tried to try to backtrack a little bit. I've heard

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01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned a few times in the last few weeks.

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: Do you think the only team in the playoffs that

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01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: believed they could beat the Chiefs was the Bills. The

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: Eagles did go into Arrowhead last year and beat them

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Speaker 1: in November. My question would be, is one game not

1193
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: enough to give them that belief?

1194
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: Well, one thing's clear.

1195
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: The Eagles went into that game believing they can win.

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01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: And you're right.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you get the AFC NFC matchups,

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01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: you play them once every you know, quarter, once every

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: four years. Right, So the Eagles and the Chiefs played

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01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 1: and they won't play again for a couple more seasons.

1201
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of a unique one off situation, which is cool,

1202
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: which keeps the NFL fresh as you get these.

1203
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 2: New matchups every year.

1204
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: My take on the Bills was they've just played them

1205
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: so many times and they've beat them multiple times. Now

1206
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: it's in the regular season. Now, just because you believe

1207
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: they can win, they can't beat them.

1208
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: Now.

1209
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: The Eagles defensively are in a different stratosphere than the Bills.

1210
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: And you know, one thing really hit me, and I've

1211
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: been saying this for a while. The league has changed

1212
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: the rules. So the John Lynches and the Ray Lewises,

1213
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: and honestly even the way like Cam Chancellor and Richard

1214
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: Sherman like guys aren't getting hit like that anymore in

1215
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. And if you do fifteen yellow flags fly out,

1216
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: And that's just a fact that it's not going to

1217
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: change moving forward. The one area where you can still

1218
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: be really violent is the lion of scrimmage, not with

1219
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback, but with each other. O' lineman and d

1220
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:39,480
Speaker 1: Linman can get after it. So when you have great, physical,

1221
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: dominant players up there, you can really dictate.

1222
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: The terms of a game.

1223
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: And what the Philadelphia Eagles did on Sunday is like

1224
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: their defensive line dictated the terms of that game. And

1225
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: they were it felt like they were picking up the

1226
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs offensive lineman, picking them up and just shut them around.

1227
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: It was like, how did they block for this guy

1228
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: all season long? And I know it's been up and down,

1229
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: but Josh Sweat it felt like was just lifting Fooni

1230
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: into the air. Their defensive tackles were given the left

1231
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,480
Speaker 1: guard and center problems that they were just they dominated.

1232
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: And obviously the offensive line they're.

1233
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 2: Just an excellent offensive line. They play well against anyone.

1234
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: But whenever I see a headline like the forty nine

1235
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: or should they be interested in DeVante Adams, like what

1236
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: are we doing? O line?

1237
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: D line?

1238
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: O line, D line, O line.

1239
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: D line?

1240
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: Anytime that you hear like it's one thing when your

1241
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: team sucks and you're gonna sign t Higgins, Okay, but

1242
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: if you're a playoff team and it is not about

1243
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive line, it's like, what are we wasting

1244
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: our time on?

1245
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:52,520
Speaker 2: Why?

1246
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: Why are we having this conversation? What a waste of breath?

1247
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: And I think people ask me this a lot.

1248
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: Is like.

1249
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: From the fans to the gms, like we all know

1250
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: how to build the team, but why once they get

1251
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: in these situations do they pivot? And I was talking

1252
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: to somebuddies when I was in the Super Bowl, It's like,

1253
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't think this guy is going

1254
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: to be a star offensive lineman, And you can draft

1255
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: Melik Neighbors, like if you're the Giants, the Chiefs and

1256
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: Eagles to them the league, Neighbors like one of the

1257
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: best players in the drafts, Like, okay, you take a

1258
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 1: guy like Melak Neighbors, Julio Jones, right, there are certain

1259
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: players like listen, we feel good about taking this guy II.

1260
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: But if you take Elak Neighbors.

1261
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: And you could have taken Joe Alt, it's like, well,

1262
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: I think Joealt can be a five time Pro bowler.

1263
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: That's a mistake, right, or you know, an impact defensive.

1264
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: Lineman, that's a mistake.

1265
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: And think of the teams that benefited last year the Rams.

1266
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: Jared Verse was sitting down, you know, I think the

1267
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: Rams drafted seventeenth or eighteenth? How was he there?

1268
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: Now?

1269
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: Part of it where a bunch of quarterbacks went. But

1270
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: like you're telling me, like, think about this with the Bears.

1271
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you know, the Bears their offensive line sucked,

1272
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: and it's true. I think they should have taken an

1273
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: offensive lineman over Roma Dounze that you're taken like Jared

1274
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: Verse over Roma Dunzay, you got it. The line of

1275
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: scrimmage is where you impact the game. Obviously, your quarterback

1276
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: played matters a lot. That's on the quarterback, coach, the coordinator.

1277
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: But when you could dominate the line of scrimmage, you

1278
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: can hang with a lot of teams.

1279
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 2: Look at the Texans.

1280
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: Their offensive line sucked, but their d line was good

1281
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: and the defense was good. Because usually when you have

1282
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: a good defensive line, your defense canna be pretty good.

1283
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: It makes your dbs look a lot better. So I

1284
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: think sometimes people talk that way and they believe that way,

1285
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: and then they get put in the situation and you're

1286
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,480
Speaker 1: just like, ah, we'll just take the wide receiver. It's crazy.

1287
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: It's like studying for the test. You know the answers,

1288
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: and then you get the test. It's like ABC or

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Speaker 1: D and you see the answer, You're like, I'm just

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01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna go with D instead of B, even though I'm

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01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,560
Speaker 1: pretty sure b's the right answer. Something that happens. I

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01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: don't know, if it's like human psychology, if it's like

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: under the gun of certain people just stick to it

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01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: more often than others, and for whatever reason, people talk

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01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: about it and they don't act about it consistently. It's weird,

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Speaker 1: but offensive defensive line. That's that's where you got to live.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to football. The volume