WEBVTT - More Lindor and Soto "Drama", Mets Split with Braves, Huge Trade Rumors | 585

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<v Speaker 1>What Is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mets Up podcast. For those of you Sikos

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<v Speaker 1>out there who are still addicted to watching this New

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<v Speaker 1>York Mets team, maybe a head on a second screen

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<v Speaker 1>after watching team in USA play a horrendous game against Belgium.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here to talk about everything going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>Mets world. A nice series split against the Atlanta Braves

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, we have their number this year. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out. Team stinks, but not against the Braves.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got some trade talks, some rumors, some crazy

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<v Speaker 1>takes being spewed on the internet. We're gonna talk about everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course, before we get going into it, make

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<v Speaker 1>and subscribe. I mean again, in another Brave series where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like kind of positive.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this, I feel like the series tell us

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<v Speaker 2>more about the Braves and did about the Mets. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it feels blatant that the Braves team isn't should

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<v Speaker 2>be taken like super seriously as a World Series contender

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<v Speaker 2>in the National League.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the current version of them, no, the current

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<v Speaker 1>iteration of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they will get healthier when Coone is back.

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<v Speaker 2>But this team is definitely worse than the Philly So

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what it's about. It's not just about at all.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about the Mets again just having a bad

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<v Speaker 2>just a bad series in general, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they the fact that they split it into two games

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<v Speaker 2>that they won. They were so bad at the end

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of deserve to lose them. Not so much

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday, very much more so on Sunday. Getting the

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<v Speaker 2>shit beat out of them in fourth July, like talk

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<v Speaker 2>about fireworks and then Yeah, I don't know, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>bad defense, bad at bats, decent pitching kind of besides

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<v Speaker 2>from and I, I guess I wasn't even terrible defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Let him got anything else great either, Scott. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, wasn't great either.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the mean for the prop is better than

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<v Speaker 2>most of his stars lately. Those first two winnings, the

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<v Speaker 2>defense kind of all over the place. He finally has

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<v Speaker 2>the slider back. I think that's something that's cool. He

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<v Speaker 2>was throwing the sweeper variant that we hadn't seen him

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<v Speaker 2>throw that much, so I appreciated seeing an adjustment there

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<v Speaker 2>and getting a pitch that was actually missing bats again

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<v Speaker 2>right handed bathers.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that was a really good sign for me from Freddy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good show you for the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the league that the slider's not gone. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest thing to take out of it. It's just,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, going four innings. It's crazy that we win

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<v Speaker 1>a game where Freddy goes four innings like that again,

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<v Speaker 1>or four and two thirds whatever it actually came out

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I missed what people were calling him Freddy five innings

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<v Speaker 2>like that was a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Freddy four innings. That version is Freddy Prault.

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<v Speaker 1>I would kill for right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But even like again, Scott on on Friday, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>jump around ten minutes and the games jump around. Then

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<v Speaker 2>talk about all the trade stuff Mike Francesa, Will Sam

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<v Speaker 2>and all the crazy stuff going on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Boomer Sison, Boomer Sison, Game one, Game one. We'll start

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<v Speaker 1>game one. Christian Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just Christian Scott where at Fastball awesome making

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<v Speaker 2>hitlers look bad, missing bats in the zone, sweepers great

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<v Speaker 2>against the readies, and then with the lefties, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>am I confident the color right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I not confident? And then you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get into these long battles.

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<v Speaker 2>They held only eighty pitches as well, and the home

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<v Speaker 2>runs of course, but this was just this is just

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<v Speaker 2>who Christian Scott thinks is going to be until there's

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<v Speaker 2>more development, and this to me feels like not a

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<v Speaker 2>bad place.

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<v Speaker 1>For a pitch to begin. Yeah, it wasn't a great

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<v Speaker 1>start by any means. Also, like the eighty pitches is

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<v Speaker 1>why he went four innings. He probably goes a fifth

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<v Speaker 1>inning if he's not coming back off the injury and

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't have the injury history behind him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a grinding It was a stressful eighty two

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<v Speaker 1>for Scott, four walk seven k's. It's well, the Mets

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<v Speaker 1>have the craziest run lines or box score every single

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<v Speaker 1>night for their pitching. To strike out seven, walk four

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<v Speaker 1>and give up two home runs and you're like only

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<v Speaker 1>three earned runs? How is that even possible?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>But again, because he's missing bass with fast ball on

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<v Speaker 2>the zone baby, and the Mets office just took seven

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<v Speaker 2>innings off in this game as well, until one Soto

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<v Speaker 2>kind of brought it back together. Both both rallies were

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<v Speaker 2>wan so though induced.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even rallies. It's all the home run and then

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<v Speaker 1>another hit.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, yeah, it's just it's watching his team steals

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<v Speaker 2>very whatever. The big news heading into this game was

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<v Speaker 2>that a j Ewing got bumped up to the top

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<v Speaker 2>spot and now carsonsvantage got moved to fifth, which and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Aj Ewing got taken out of the game because he

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<v Speaker 1>stole while Wan Soda was up. He stole in front

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<v Speaker 1>of Sodo got on base. Aj Ewing has had really

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<v Speaker 1>bad success sealing bases at the major league level. I

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<v Speaker 1>am kind of confused about it because he's a great

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<v Speaker 1>runner but just gets really bad jumps at on the

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<v Speaker 1>bass pass. It's a skill. Andy Green sat him down, said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a moment where he's got to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when Mon SODA's up and you're on base, he

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<v Speaker 1>can't run into an out. And I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hate it. I think that's I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a way to teach him. While also like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he got three at bats in this game. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like he didn't play, Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He also didn't start the next day, But I also

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<v Speaker 2>think that was them still. Andy Green said they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to try and hide him against tough lefties, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why he sat partially maybe because the disciplinary reason still

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<v Speaker 2>but against Chris Sale then was in the lineup against

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<v Speaker 2>Martine Perez.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't even know if it's disciplinary. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just more so even like just learn young buck

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<v Speaker 1>you're twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it is funny with Youing because base stealing

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<v Speaker 2>is so much of a skill and we learned that

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<v Speaker 2>last year and s and why major to pant to

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<v Speaker 2>Antoine rigardson plenty of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yourbody's still on basis of the Braves have this year

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<v Speaker 1>versus the Mets, by.

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<v Speaker 2>The way you all, but it is the skill is

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<v Speaker 2>just going to come with a time every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>With aj Ewing, I still watch him make a good play.

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<v Speaker 2>Carson Bench is the same, and it's like everything's house money.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like with him, he's so far ahead of schedule. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we even just talked about the fact that it's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>after these four games that Bobiche has a higher batting

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<v Speaker 2>average a j Ewing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Does feel insane like that it's gone that way, but

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<v Speaker 1>also at the same time, like I am super impressed

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<v Speaker 1>with how aj Ewing has played thus far. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he has shown that he's very, very capable at a

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<v Speaker 1>super young age of twenty one. He plays a great

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<v Speaker 1>center field. The base running thing's going to clean up.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna make some mistakes again because he's twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>years old. But I think you said perfectly, James, like

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<v Speaker 1>him and Bench, they make good plays every day. And

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<v Speaker 1>just to bring this up because I have to since

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about trades, it does make you

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<v Speaker 1>understand more why the Nemo contract was such a rush

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<v Speaker 1>to get moved off of not because of the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of player that Nimo is, but because we do have

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<v Speaker 1>these great young players who are doing very very similar

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<v Speaker 1>things to what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this year and next year, aj Ewing probably ay

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<v Speaker 2>Carson Bench by next year probably outpaced Brandon Nimo in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of value. Probably again still taking human element out

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<v Speaker 2>of that shack that happened one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't look at who we trade for.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, again, Well he's gone. I mean, who

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<v Speaker 2>knows that when he comes back and plays baseball games?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we are also as this is all going on,

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<v Speaker 2>like Louise Robert is rehabing a triple A and similar

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<v Speaker 2>to the conversations, we're going to have an only a

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<v Speaker 2>few short minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So hang on with us, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's going to be about the trade deadline for the

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<v Speaker 2>next three weeks, about showcasing guys, getting ready to trade them,

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<v Speaker 2>even some guys we didn't expect maybe to get traded.

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<v Speaker 2>So with the Mets wanting to showcase Louise Robert, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to put him back in center field, and as

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<v Speaker 2>that happens, do not be surprised if aj Ewing becomes

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<v Speaker 2>the second basement.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of days for this baseball team

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<v Speaker 1>been taking some ground balls. We know that ever since

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<v Speaker 1>he got called up, he's been taking ground balls. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think Sodo probably just goes to the age most

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<v Speaker 1>of the days. I think that's what it ends up being.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's been there a lot. Anyway. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there will still be a rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think, just to again think about the future,

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<v Speaker 2>think about the players you have, Like see how a

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<v Speaker 2>j Ewing does turning double plays, going up the middle

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<v Speaker 2>like he has, like gonna have a great arm for

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<v Speaker 2>a second baseman.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna have a Candon over on one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>arms at the second base in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's gonna be fun to navigate all these

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<v Speaker 2>things again. Saturday, freeze through this one quickly got your

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<v Speaker 2>doors blown off. Another folly in the field with Lindor

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<v Speaker 2>and Tyrone Taylor having a bit of a miscommunication that

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<v Speaker 2>was on Tyrone. I'm hoping that we get that error

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<v Speaker 2>that hit turned into an error because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy game that I tied and I had Sean and

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<v Speaker 2>I on my line.

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<v Speaker 1>But the relief the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm really hoping that we can reverse I

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<v Speaker 2>get a retroactive win at some point this week. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to shout out a great Twitter cube in followood. Recently,

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<v Speaker 2>m willb scoring changes Okay, phenomenal, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Go all he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Go over every single scoring change that happens after the fact,

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<v Speaker 2>and you go over the Miserowski one. He's gone viral

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<v Speaker 2>now because of that Miserowski thing. I the fo it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a month that happened last week and then

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<v Speaker 2>also again on Monday with Christopher Sanchez play with Trey Turner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes where if both of those calls were reversed, their

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<v Speaker 2>ear ras would have been like within a tenth of

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<v Speaker 2>a run, and now they're like six and a half

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<v Speaker 2>tenth of a run.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy how these scoring changes can make such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge difference. It is, but again, Saturday, you got anything else?

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<v Speaker 1>Sean and Iah looked horrible, Austin Warrens being human, Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Gerberb got shelled. I mean, there's not really anything to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about there. I guess good to see Mark Riento's

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<v Speaker 1>get a home run off another lefty's that's just boosted

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of trade value he possibly could have.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he is, I'll get you the split right

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<v Speaker 2>here in a second, because now it seems like he's

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<v Speaker 2>only playing against lefties and Marchie should only be doing

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<v Speaker 2>He does have an eight to fifty ops against leftis.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a playoff team could use that. There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Pittsburgh Pirates, I'm looking at you. Well, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to cut the other guy. They're gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they should.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it definitely should. That the criminal, Yeah, the criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's a nicely tyrone Taylor get the bat hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, just right before we trade him. Hopefully, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>it's something there.

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<v Speaker 2>But then series kind of got crazy once we got

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<v Speaker 2>to Sunday again, Like this team does find a way

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<v Speaker 2>somehow to pick themselves like barely off the mat when

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<v Speaker 2>they're about to get fully knocked the fuck out kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sometimes once in a while maybe, And offense went

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<v Speaker 2>crazy after the Brads give you saw a punch in

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<v Speaker 2>the mouth in the first inning.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Nolan McLain.

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<v Speaker 2>Also again defense not doing him any favors, settling in

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<v Speaker 2>really nicely again, the feel for the.

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<v Speaker 1>Curve ball just appears to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing that was stopping him, and now against

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<v Speaker 2>lefties him having it. That looks like Nolan McLain has

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<v Speaker 2>very much nestled himself back into being an incredibly solid,

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<v Speaker 2>sturdy starting pitcher. And then just whatever happened that ninth

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<v Speaker 2>inning was like, how's his real life? Eleven runs in

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<v Speaker 2>the ninth inning of this game? That's absolutely insane, Like

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<v Speaker 2>when the Mets threw up five, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of nice, nice little Sunday recovering from a

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<v Speaker 2>nice Fourth of July at the Chiano's Great Party, Good times,

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<v Speaker 2>Rock and Pops shout out the Schiano's for hosting us.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, nice, taking a little nap, started to fall asleep,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, oh my god, Oscar Brosebond

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<v Speaker 2>just gave up a grand slam.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the white like that.

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<v Speaker 2>This this is Boscar browsel Bond's worst outing in a year.

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<v Speaker 2>And then for Devin Williams to come in and we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully it can be settled down. Opposite of being settled down,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to load the bases, you have to walk

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<v Speaker 2>multiple guys, you have to go to the three balls,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have a chance to.

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<v Speaker 1>Tie the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it did wind up being okay, and that

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<v Speaker 2>ninth inning was fun like for us.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like seeing Boba Schett, I like seeing ja ewing one.

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<v Speaker 2>So though like that was that was not the Ajuing won.

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<v Speaker 1>That was two things before Juing home run off Martine Perez,

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<v Speaker 1>which yes, which was I couldn't believe that that ball

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<v Speaker 1>went out. The balls are so insanely juiced. Again, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>And the balls in Atlanta they fly out of that ballpark.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, the ease that balls get out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Atlanta is one of the ballparks and Washington's

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<v Speaker 2>like this as well, and not the same way. But

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego's like this, where Cleveland's like this too big time.

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh is a little bit like this, where once the

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<v Speaker 2>weather warms you have a totally different ballpark down theah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Washington's like the most pronounced one in baseball there.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember you tell me about that a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and being like, oh, home runs in Washington for

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<v Speaker 1>lefties is good.

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<v Speaker 2>Look once you get to July and it's just humid

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<v Speaker 2>soup every single day out there. But that was just

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<v Speaker 2>and the same thing kind of bled into it with Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>where you're like this, it's fun to watch this baseball

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<v Speaker 2>team win. I like, especially getting games off the Braves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not serious baseball team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no Gary had a great quote during this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pulling it up real quick because my dad texted

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<v Speaker 1>it to me and I want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it. Oh. He said that basically like,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the Mets suck in moments like these, it's

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<v Speaker 1>nice to like not care to just like enjoy that

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets win a game against the Atlanta Braves. I

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<v Speaker 1>even tweeted that on Sunday, where like, after all the

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<v Speaker 1>chaos and whatnot, it's always nice to beat the Braves. Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like I understand a certain part of the

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<v Speaker 1>fan base is going to throw their hands and go

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and stuff. And I think we've said it a

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<v Speaker 1>couple times on this podcast, but it's like, guys, this

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<v Speaker 1>season is it's not. We're not playing for twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six right now. So like the anger, the upset of

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<v Speaker 1>like quality of play, I'm simply not gonna do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of the ranting or yelling that I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>is now, like theoretical process, things are gonna happen with

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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline, because like, it was fun to see

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets beat the Braves, even though again back to

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<v Speaker 1>back cardiac arrest days, like oh my god, how can

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<v Speaker 1>we blow this? We do one game to come back

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<v Speaker 1>and win. It was sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and weird thing too where this looks like Lindor

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<v Speaker 2>will be the lead off hitter against lefties and the

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<v Speaker 2>second he's in that leadoff spot, yeah, bat start night

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<v Speaker 2>and day.

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<v Speaker 1>Compared to one he's further down the or they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't like them at four And we're gonna talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about Francisco Lindor coming up in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said, Bobachett, he raises average like thirteen points.

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<v Speaker 2>This series, he raised ops about fifteen as well. Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's he looks like a very solid baseball player. We're

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<v Speaker 2>getting to a spot with Bobachett whereas he continues to hit,

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<v Speaker 2>and it does seem like he will continue to hit,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna back his way into like a three win season,

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half win season, after being complete non entity,

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<v Speaker 2>non factor for two months to begin it. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been I mean again, my play my flag moment's

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<v Speaker 2>been just unbelievable timing. He's gonna completely smash the eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred ops from that point on.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been playing really good baseball. And again he's playing

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<v Speaker 1>a really good third base, which I think is the

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that the Mets probably had the biggest question

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<v Speaker 1>mark about and this week, maybe not them, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they still probably were like, he's gonna hit well enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he plays league average defense at third. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think you have forty million unless you

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<v Speaker 2>expect league average defense at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean we've seen it to other guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And then again, Carson Bench, he's playing well. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to take these things with us and be able to

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy these little things again. Like Carson bench Adreywing made

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<v Speaker 2>a nice play. Carson made a bad play in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Idiops watch above six hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice until tomorrow. What else? Chrisius Galver has a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of big hits.

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<v Speaker 2>Luis Rentz the big hit when he looked like the

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<v Speaker 2>mess were really gonna die, and then he's laced the

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<v Speaker 2>double off of Owen Murphy, who was getting his first ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Major league action.

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<v Speaker 2>Also Boba Shitt getting thrown out the plate. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>pissed me off, as USA was completely falling apart. He's

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<v Speaker 2>himself shockingly slow. Yeah, and I don't think it shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very well known. How slowly. Let's get him and

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Reim to do a forty yard dash raced against

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<v Speaker 1>each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to ever hear Tim Riem's name again,

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<v Speaker 2>No more than so with Tim Riem is not even funny.

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<v Speaker 1>We just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like someone had the viral tweets like it's a country,

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred million people. We have no one better than

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Riem. Really we really don't. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you got to help much. You guys keep up with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Socked not good, No, not particularly interested in to shout

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<v Speaker 1>out Luke Weaver nails as always. I know he gave

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<v Speaker 1>him the run, but yeah, kind of he made really

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<v Speaker 1>really really sweaty. He still hasn't given a Nerd run

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<v Speaker 1>in what like two months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think since the next we're in the series

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<v Speaker 2>against the Hawks, he is getting traded possibly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is well. He said, we have anything

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<v Speaker 1>else to talk through right now. Senga looked okay when

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<v Speaker 1>he pitched. He did besides psess for the home run,

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<v Speaker 1>but everything else was okay. Like that's another guy. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Showcase for relief roll. Yeah, Showcase for the relief roll,

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<v Speaker 1>big time for Senga. Jeffrey On got added to the

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<v Speaker 1>forty man roster, which I can't wait to see him

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<v Speaker 1>get to the major league, major leagues. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. Also, we saw what's his name, Guilow Guilow Zee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he got called up. There's like ninety eight, so like

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<v Speaker 1>I like to see that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And when the Mets came back and then night that

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<v Speaker 2>came back, Yeah, and they came back to the ninth

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<v Speaker 2>inning on Monday, that was rice like Glacier's first blown

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<v Speaker 2>save this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to see that anytime we can hurt the Braves,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know we're hearting the Braves, helps the Phillies,

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<v Speaker 1>the lesser of two evils, whatever it is. I like

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<v Speaker 1>just playing spoiler when we have the opportunity to play

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<v Speaker 1>it just yet. You just have to play the game

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you. And lots of successful challenges in

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<v Speaker 1>this game on Monday, heaps of them, so they had

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<v Speaker 1>a great shows. Don't look at overhits from the first inning,

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<v Speaker 1>don't look at that one or Mark Fiante's from the

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<v Speaker 1>other night, but that went very vile from mets up account.

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<v Speaker 1>Brard shout out the intern there.

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<v Speaker 2>But so, although had a few cocky challenges in the series,

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<v Speaker 2>which is nice because he's been oddy bad challenges have

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<v Speaker 2>been way too.

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<v Speaker 1>In the weeds of challenge data.

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<v Speaker 2>Is just because I want to find it any way

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<v Speaker 2>possible to keep flaming Mark Fiantos, so he deserves it

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<v Speaker 2>every single second. But I just I like seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>top of this order actually play well cohesively together like

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<v Speaker 2>they did most of this series.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when the when when those guys are healthy and

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<v Speaker 1>in the line together, there they are scoring runs that

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<v Speaker 1>top the orders moving and Mauricio frez Baz. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, need to get a big hit

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<v Speaker 1>and then standing to help push that rally along. But

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<v Speaker 1>good little series for the Mets. Overall split with the Braves.

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<v Speaker 1>Never gonna be upset. But this is the last place

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<v Speaker 1>in New York Mets they're not good. No, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for some of the real stuff here. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>fun stuff? Which way? What do you want to go first?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to do trade deadline talk first or jumping

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<v Speaker 2>right into media marvels. Let's jump into media marvel because

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<v Speaker 2>it will lead into trade deadline talk. So lead into

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<v Speaker 2>series trade deadline talk. We're gonna start that with nonsense

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<v Speaker 2>trade dead Yeah, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna start off with nonsense trade deadline talk because I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand everybody's got to be out there get their clicks.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got to talk about Mike Francesa and we

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk about boomersiasin because I think frances dropped

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<v Speaker 1>an entire podcast about the state of the Mets and

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<v Speaker 1>is reiterating that solo Indors relationship is not good in

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<v Speaker 1>the metal trade. Lindor at like basically any costs are

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<v Speaker 1>looking to move him, which if we're gonna take anything

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<v Speaker 1>from this podcast today. I hope it's you guys take

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<v Speaker 1>that Mike Francisa has no inside information to the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Mets whatsoever. Steve Cohen saying the thing that he

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<v Speaker 1>said last week on the show has completely turned this

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<v Speaker 1>into a massive, massive clusterfuck. And it's crazy that he

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<v Speaker 1>said it. I was listening to WFA anim I drive

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<v Speaker 1>back from Jersey today Jersey to Astoria, Evan Roberts and

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<v Speaker 1>Tiki Barber did a great job. Roberts, I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>he's really pushing that. Cohen should have never said it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who gives a shit, It doesn't matter. These guys are

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<v Speaker 1>clearly fine now we've seen them this year. They seem

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<v Speaker 1>to interact just fine together. But the whole like the

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<v Speaker 1>Mets are gonna tear it down and Francisco Lindor is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be out. Boomer Science is talking about how the

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<v Speaker 1>Mets will better off trading Francisco Indoor they have to trade.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, when are are we going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where we stop listening to non baseball people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about baseball, or people that have no clue about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in baseball talk about Baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is just the nature of the beast

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<v Speaker 2>right now, in a lost season like this, with the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of expectations, with the kind of star power, and

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<v Speaker 2>with the kind of just to claim the Mets still

0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.520
<v Speaker 2>always get Like Mets for clicks is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You could talk about the Mets. You can talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the Mets and make may you know, living off it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think a lot of people right now like

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<v Speaker 2>it's become such an easy target because again, a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of different things can be true here, like Facisco Lindora

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<v Speaker 2>has been a lightning ride the whole time he's been

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<v Speaker 2>on the Mets, been incredible. He's very good also being

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<v Speaker 2>the center of attention and whether or not that be

0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.800
<v Speaker 2>his fault someone else's fault, again his own fault sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>this particular time, his owner's fault. We even forgot about

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<v Speaker 2>the quote from so Though on Friday about him and

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco Lindor. You don't kiss the girl on the first date, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but what happened there and judging the first date but.

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<v Speaker 1>Tugging down his throat.

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<v Speaker 2>When you meet a girl, you don't start kissing her

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<v Speaker 2>right away. But it is interesting how different there certain

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<v Speaker 2>reports are about the nature of these guys relationship where

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<v Speaker 2>the whole time it's either forget these guys just simply coworkers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>these players were met without the intention of being best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>The two guys who from different different places in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>different upbringings, different stages.

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<v Speaker 1>Of their life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you never ever have to speak to the

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<v Speaker 2>other guy off the field, doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And by all accounts, whether it be good, bad, chili

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<v Speaker 1>and different, it doesn't seem like it's the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's driving this team apart. It really does not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>If it is, we do have a roster of the

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<v Speaker 1>softest players in the league. Because there have been teams

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<v Speaker 1>that hate each other. There have been successful Mets teams

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<v Speaker 1>that had dislike towards each other. The Agy six Mets,

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<v Speaker 1>they brawled with each other, they had fights, there was

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<v Speaker 1>any there, and the other guys like they were just

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<v Speaker 1>ready to fight anybody at any moment. So it is

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<v Speaker 1>always so funny to me when it feels like Mets fans,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Ay six team one. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>nobody brings it up. But like we have proof that

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<v Speaker 1>these guys don't need to be better friends. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>important at all whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>The dynamic is weirdly and again we were kids at

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<v Speaker 2>the times, but I do remember it starting to become

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<v Speaker 2>like real sentient with baseball knowledge. It does remind me

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.160
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of the way that the New York

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<v Speaker 2>media was specifically talking about Gether.

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<v Speaker 1>In a Rod very much so where it's kawin. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean once, yeah, I know, but I'll take one.

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<v Speaker 1>Take that. I'll take one. I'll take one trade everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what happens. Have the rest of my

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<v Speaker 1>life after that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does kind of have that vibe to it, which,

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<v Speaker 2>again I don't think it's a good thing, but it

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<v Speaker 2>does feel like it's something where like we said at

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<v Speaker 2>the top, if you continue to stroke these flames, they

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<v Speaker 2>will continue to build a fire. Yes, so and all

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<v Speaker 2>these a lot of the guys were talking about, not

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Evan Roberts, because Evan is great and he fights a

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<v Speaker 2>good fri real met fan. Yeah, but like Boomer Sisen,

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<v Speaker 2>he patently doesn't know anything about baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, do you want to hear One of the

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<v Speaker 1>funniest replies I got about my thing? So I quote

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted the Boomer video, I said, I really wish people

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<v Speaker 1>were zero baseball knowledge, would stop talking about baseball, Mets

0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.840
<v Speaker 1>or not, should not and will not be trading Francisco Lindor.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone replied to me and said, so, the former proportional

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<v Speaker 1>professional athlete who hosted the number one sports talk radio

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<v Speaker 1>show in New York for twenty years doesn't know baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>got it? I'm like, I mean, he's a great radio host,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt about it. He's good at the job

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<v Speaker 1>he does. But why does that make him qualified to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about baseball? And then this guy replied and said,

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<v Speaker 1>because Boomer Sisen won the Yastremsky Award for best Baseball

0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Player on Long Island in high school. That's why he's qualified. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy shit, could you, James? You did you ever win

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<v Speaker 1>like a Great Reader Reader Award elementary school? I want some?

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<v Speaker 1>I want some nonsense Social Studies Award middle school? What

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the fuck was it? You? You surely then can give

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<v Speaker 1>out the Pulitzer Prize every single year. Oh yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>run for Congress next week.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's I don't know, there's still so many angles

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Those still just because like when I we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Francisco Inndoor online or in the show in

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 2>our comments section, like people still talk about like the

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 2>thumbs down thingvisive, Like there's a section of Mets fans

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.880
<v Speaker 2>that has complete Francisco Lindord's arrangement syndrome where they don't

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<v Speaker 2>watch him. But then the flip side of this, let

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<v Speaker 2>me give me, give me ten percent of a devil's

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<v Speaker 2>advocacy here. I don't think they're going to trade ciscal indoor,

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<v Speaker 2>of course not. It's definitely not gonna happen to trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the other thing that gets lost in

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<v Speaker 2>the public, and we talk about this a lot, especial

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<v Speaker 2>when do the wind up. We're talking about tair Scooble

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<v Speaker 2>all trades in general. I don't think a ciscal indoor

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<v Speaker 2>is my trade value at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he does, and he doesn't. Like here's here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. For a team that's trying to win right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't care about money, you would happily take him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if which the team is that, if the Dodger

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be the Yankees, if anybody, if anybody, that

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<v Speaker 1>won't happen. It's not going to happen, of course it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>And like if the Dodgers didn't have a shortstop, they

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<v Speaker 1>would totally do it, but like, there's no teams that

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<v Speaker 1>really make sense monetarily to trade him to that actually

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>are going to like the Red Sox gonna do it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like No, probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying again, he's just when you have a player

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<v Speaker 2>who's still due five years at thirty two million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is thirty four million right now in Baseball

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<v Speaker 2>Reference because I was looking at it today, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>some deferred money.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so before I guess without deferrals or anything, it's

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<v Speaker 1>through twenty thirty one hundred and seventy million dollars. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it's a nonsense conversation, but just saying, usually when

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<v Speaker 1>you have of middlandfielders who franciscal Indoor is still quite

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<v Speaker 1>a good defender, but I think it's clear his best

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>defensive days are behind him because he's turning thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>years old at the end of the season. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>is not Bobbywit Junior at shortstop anymore, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>still one of the better defensive shortstop. He's still a

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<v Speaker 1>plus defensive shortstop, and I think that's getting very much

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<v Speaker 1>lost in this whole conversation right now because people see

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<v Speaker 1>errors and just assume that you're washed and it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>For ciscal Indoor right now still has a positive OAA

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<v Speaker 1>in a very very small sample, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>people can point to errors he's made from the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. So like again, this is gonna be

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a classic. Like Nerds, jocktings, my eyes told me he's

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<v Speaker 1>not as good at shortstop anymore. The numbers don't. The

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>numbers back him up that he's still a plus defender

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<v Speaker 1>at shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also in just such a fever pitch of like

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 2>nerd jock stuff and again so much. We did the

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Eric Schavis episode with you guys last week, really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Love the replies to that, but that was like the

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<v Speaker 2>epitome the ner jock stuff where he's like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>how you should do baseball because I did baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, where it's like, that's not really true. It's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with Jalen Brown right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happening because every single day there is so disgruntled

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 2>former player who's complaining about the way the lost is

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<v Speaker 2>ready and it's just it's a nonsense argument and it's

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 2>blatantly untrue. But at the same time, Francisco Lindora's probably

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 2>already had his best season as.

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 1>A met totally I and and like I got into

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 1>arguments with people about that today too. They're like, you're

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>not understanding he's gonna get worse with me, So then

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you can't. You don't hold on Do you think they

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know that? Yeah, you don't hold on to any

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking player. Then as soon as bad bad year, get

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:26.679
<v Speaker 1>rid of him. And then here's the other thing for

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone out there, who the fuck is going to play

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>shortstop for this team? There is not a shortstop within

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<v Speaker 1>within years of being ready to play shortstop. You want

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to see Ronnie Mauricso every day you're gonna be the

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>same fucking moron who goes insane screaming about bying Ronnie

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Maurice you at shortstop. This guy fucking sucks. He doesn't

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>play the game the right way, Like you can't have

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>it both ways. And I'm I love being a Mets fan.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I love the Mets fans that listen to Mets Up.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are getting to a dangerous point right now

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>as a fan base. We're we're turning into fucking spoiled brats.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so annoying. It's also the reverse of the lodge

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<v Speaker 1>of why.

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<v Speaker 2>People are upset about dumping Nimo and Alonzo, because those

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 2>are also guys who were definitely so much indoor, but

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>that I'm talking about both sides of the mouth for a second. Here,

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>those are guys that were past their prime and based

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>on the contracts that they have on top of it,

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you could see the way to Jalen Brown, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna be dead money relative to player value over

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<v Speaker 2>the course. And I still don't know if that's totally

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 2>true references condor because of the total bargain is contracts

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 2>turned into where as a plus defender the preimposition and

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who I still think will profile is twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Better than the gaverage for a couple of years, two

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<v Speaker 1>or three more years up this year, he's up. Bad handmate,

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna wind He's a bad handmate and a bad calf.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna wind up's wanting want so the bad distcourse too.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think also he's playing the whole year with

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a bad calf and he looks phenomenal whatever. But at

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the same time, when you did trade those two guys

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 1>and you kind of repositioned your contending window. They didn't

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>do that intentionally, but now we've seen the fallout that

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>they have. He's not on the timeline of theoretically the

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>rest of the roster. But then also at the same time,

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>like you said, there's no there's no shortstop replacements. Like

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>if you guys look at this'll grow on trees the

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>fridge because old guys don't play shortstop. Because of the

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>rules for Major League Baseball free agency, guy waits six

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>years to be a free agent. So generally if you

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>come up between twenty three and twenty five, not hitting

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>fre agency till you're around thirty, and usually when you're thirty,

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Francisco indors anomaly because he's probably going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>first Battle Hall of Fame or won the best players

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>he's ever played position in the history of the game.

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>That's so you can actually last in the position.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you want, you want Hassan Kim playing shortstop,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's what it becomes when you need a free

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 2>agent short stop.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a short stop where you can have Anthony

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Volpi probably by the next year, if you'd really want

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a SHORTSTOPA he's another one where he does get perpetually

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 1>underrated because now he's playing good defense. Again, Yeah, like

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>he's perfectly valuable. And there's again like the good shortstops,

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not going anywhere. Good shortstops don't get moved. It's

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>not how it happens. And then you're gonna pick from

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the litter, which is like, oh, you

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>could have Jose Cabaliro, then when he becomes a free agent,

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>like you can have all these other options who are

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>not nearly as good, like Lindor is having a bad

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>offensive start to the season. He's a better hitter than

0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>all the guys that we just mentioned and a better field.

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing that's just like so crazy to

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 1>me too, is just about how like we talked about

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>this when we first signed Francisco Lindoor and how this

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>we loved the contract from the start. We thought it

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 1>was a great signing when we signed. We signedim at

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, so we got a bunch of years out

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>of him. He's gonna be able to play second base.

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like at an elite level as soon as

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>shortstop falls off, Like, there's nothing that shows us that

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>he won't be a phenomenal second baseman. Where where's the problem?

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Also the money conversation, he's here, he's not our money.

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>He's going to be better than the guys that we

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>trade away for similar money. Like over these next five years,

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>he's making similar money to Pete Alonzo. That's insane and

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah right, and dollars per war is something that kind

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of gets overanalyzed, but usually what's accepted the most simple

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>way possible is eight million dollars per war. So for Cisco,

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Indoor winds up sitting between four and five wins above

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>replacement per year, which I still think he'll be able

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to do in perpetuity as a plus defender, at least

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>when he becomes an average defender shortstoped then a plus

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>defender at second base. While being even at that point

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent better league average with the bat and being

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a good bass runner, You're still getting that every single year.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Like this contract is so unbelievably good. For some reason,

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Mets fans have this weird feeling about it. I don't

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>think they realize how long ago it was, and how

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>much more money other players make now you have, and

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>how valuable Franciscal Lindoor really is. Like he's he's going

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>into the Hall of Fame with a Mets have on

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>as long as we don't trade him. I love to

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>trade in the next the next twelve months, but that's

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he just passed the guardians for games played.

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>He did earlier this season, but he's it's just it's

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>very annoying that his name and again shame on us

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe for eating the trash and doing this whole thing

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>about it, but it's just it's frustrating the way that

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>these talking heads kind of take this kind of twist

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>around who Francisco Indoor is as a baseball player, and

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I say this, I'll give I'll give one morsel to

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the other side, just the fact that there's been claub

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Pouse chaos, but the Mets always Yeah, I don't think

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Franciscal Indoor is really.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>The most additive person. Maybe sometimes chemistry wise.

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're if we're gonna take that other side,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's again, if there was a player

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>who was this all time great on your team, face

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>of the franchise for the first few years, you would

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>hope that some real era of culture was usher than

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.719
<v Speaker 1>if you want to say Francisco Indoor fell short on

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that part of his promise or for sure, but every

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>single thing on the field has been absolutely above and

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>beyond every single step of the way, and there's not

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>even a shadow of it. Doubt and trying to deny

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that in six seasons with the Mets, including this shortened

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>one twenty eight War, and six season with the Guardians,

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>including a short one in Cleveland twenty eight war like,

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he's been unbelievably good with the Mets, and I just

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't get behind the Francisco indoor hate. We've never

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>been behind it. I think it's a moronic conversation, truthfully,

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and it.

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Becomes especially frustrating that all this stuff has to come

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>back out because the owner made a flipping comment to

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the media and.

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Then the fuck did he say that? And then again,

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I think we said that before. He's just hanging out

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>with two dudes, like they're come from the same place,

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>they're the same age. They're just kind of chopping it up.

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>What's crazy to me is that when we worked for

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the team, we had to be more careful about the

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we said. Then the owner of the organization,

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I understand, no shit, dude, but what you are, but

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>what he says actually is important. It will get used

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>what we said. Nobody would fucking care. That's just my

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>whole point.

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that this should be a time not

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>saying the professional athletes should be relaxing but like we said.

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's away, this season's over, right, Yes, you it should

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>be a great time to fade to the background, try

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and build some culture and chemistry heading into the next season.

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Evaluate what's going on instead. On Friday Night, Will Salmon

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>has to come out with a massive inside the piece

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>about the nature of these guys relationship where he had

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>quotes from them. Clearly he was talking to other people

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in the clubhouse, like the fact that because Steve Cohen

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>had to say this and that's to become the thing again,

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the thing for the last few months. It wasn't

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a thing at all. Nobody was talking about it first

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and now again these guys have to when everything else

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is going on, all this other chaos and bullshit with

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the team, they still have to answer questions about this.

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>And just as the quotes this from one and so

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>though on Friday there were no issues last year at all,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have any beef for anything. Our relationship is

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>getting better because that takes time. When you meet the girl,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't start kissing her right away. Door added. The

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>more time we spend together is only naturally our relationship

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>continues to grow.

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>We've been teammates for two years times on our side,

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I had nothing but respect for him. He's my brother,

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 2>somebody respected from a distance, and I respect here on

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the inside.

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>And I do think ultimately like all this nonsense and

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>everything going on with their relationship, if the Mets just

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't fucking stink last year and stink this year, this

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>is such a non starter because if the team wins,

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>nobody looks at relationships on the team, No one cares.

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>John Lackey and Josh Becker were great friends. Were drink

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and beers. Yeah, I mean good friends. Two good friends

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>in the clubhouse. Remember the cookie club with the Mets.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>They won a lot of games because they were really

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>good friends. This guys suck all.

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>The friendship really got us a long way. And again

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>moreland door stuff here. The more time is well. A

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>club source corroborates the relationship appears in better standing. So

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Lindor dynamic has lingered for two seasons after the mess

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 2>disappointing end last season, they adle Lotic reported a personality

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>clash between them. New York Postals report the two players

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 2>had a chili relationship. That's not that weird inside of

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a baseball optics, So okay, it's not optimal.

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>No, I wish they were the best of friends. I

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>wish they were great. That would be awesome. But like

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the fact, this is only a story, like you said,

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>because the team's ass in a season where they hated

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>each other. Let's go to the absolute neck. If they

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>hated each other's guts. Juan Soto had maybe the best

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>season of his career, and Francisco Lindor went thirty thirty thirty, Yeah,

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>like pretty good. And then if everything, if everything else

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone else was saying was true, If Lindor and and

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Neimo and Alonzo, with these big time leaders,

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>could they help mend for everybody else? Yeah? What went

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>on there? Get those two again?

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 2>If those two guys being kind of just a little

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 2>bit okay with each other fractures the whole locker room,

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that is kind of a bet reflection everybody else as well.

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 2>And the manager who got fired, who everyone keeps defending.

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which was absolutely ridiculous. So in our opinion, Francisco

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Lindor does not get traded because it would be quite

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>literally one of the dumbest moves that David Stearns could

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>make in a litany of dumb moves. He's made. There's

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.479
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely no one else you could play short stuff. No,

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and for the next five years what would wind up happening?

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 2>So like just really put the tinfoil cap on, like

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>who's theoretical, let's let's play.

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's Evan Roberts gave a great one. Was Mason Winn No? Oh, no,

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were talking about who the trade would be.

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, who who could you ever even get right

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>now in the league to be your shortstop?

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Volpy Mason win just because JJ Weatherholle could probably

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 1>play shortstop, probably very well. Jeremy Panya. Maybe you trade

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>him for Cory Seeger because Cory Seger hates being on

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the Rangers. Let's get that's those two guys would first thing.

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>They'd be so happy. Those guys a great relationship. They

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely want so much. Those two do hate each other

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and they.

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Still won a World Series. That doesn't it just really

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. But it's a knowing that the drama has

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>to come back out.

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>He can't play short anymore.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>But that was the one that Roberts was like, that

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>was the only thing that would ever make sense. Is

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>like you the Mets hate Lindor so much, they're like,

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>fuck it, let's trade bad contracts. If we think that's

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Put Jackson Merrill back to shortstop could

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>be that. I mean, it's horrible too, It's terrible.

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just you don't don't really trade shortstops like in

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, trading quarterbacks like it's the most valuable position

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 2>for a reason.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>That's why it was so insane when Francisco and Lindor

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>got traded to the New York Mets for garbage, for

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing at all, not load of ship, the backup third

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>basement for the Yankees. Andresey Menez and the Mets are

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>great defender andrese Menez. He can't hit it shortstop.

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 2>That's that that subset of Mets fans, and you don't

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.399
<v Speaker 2>really realize what you got right now.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Someone told me the Mets would like Bishett at shortstop

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>with a new third basement over Lindor. I was like, fuck, no,

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>what are we talking about? And then someone told me

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that it's uh. Tried to compare Lindor to Nemo, and

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, their contracts could be relatively similar if you

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 1>think they're the same player. I don't know what sport

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>we've been watching. No, it's not even closed. Nimo has

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 1>been way in the tubes. Don't tell you, don't tell anybody.

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>We gotta give lons of the credit. Get great, He's

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna keep hitting.

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>So because TLDRS people saying the mesa trade, Nemo, what

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>are you talking about?

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>You mean Lindor lind orchie jumble in my head right now.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 2>You're also not getting much for him to trade because

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 2>he knowed so much money and he is past his

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 2>best years for sure, and you have no replacement in house.

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 2>So again one two three, this makes no sense.

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no sense whatsoever. All right, now to the other

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>trades stuff, real trade deadline talk now, things that actually

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 1>could happen. And I feel like the biggest name to

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about is, for instance, Gualvarez slash Luise Torenz, which

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I think Alvarez is to get people in the door

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>for Louise Torenz. Fun fact, I think, no.

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Matter what, there's definitely smoke to this because this again

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Will Salmon has has taken the mentally, he's the insiders

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 2>inside there for this team. So this getting out that

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 2>means someone wanted it out.

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 1>He absolutely cocks the como.

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little different when you're MLB dot

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 2>com because that's film that's kind of state media, and

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 2>then versus when you're like a reporter for the athletic

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.720
<v Speaker 2>incredibly different environment. I feel like shout out Will Salmon,

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 2>shadow Will, And as you said right here and again,

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't for bed Films information because it was a

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>gift free article for non athletics subscribers. Gefer seems to

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 2>be available, and this is at least more available than

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 2>he's ever been available.

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 1>He's available, you want to make a call. And I

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>think there's also probably a measures to the league that

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the Mets are kind of willing to trade anybody except

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Francisco Indoor on.

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 2>And so again that's why when Mike Francesca says these things,

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 2>but Will Salmon, who's seems to be the most in

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 2>the know of anybody there, he says those things. Even

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 2>forgot the Steve con even said we're not trading Francisco

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Indoor on that same podcast, which is insane.

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>He had to even say that just for context. Don't

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you guys think that if Will Salmon had news that

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the Mets were maybe considering trading Francisco lindor he'd write

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>that article because it would get one hundred thousand clicks.

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 1>And also, if the Mets actually were considering it, don't

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you think they would want it to get out there

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>so they would actually be able to drum up a

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>big bidding war because he also has a full note

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>trade close by the way they owned that kicked in

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>this season. It's for the gapp digress, Francisco Alvarez. This

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:45.720
<v Speaker 1>does make it interesting.

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that we were definitely still big for Ciscqualvarez guys,

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>and I think that much more so in a lot

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 2>of other fans. I always love reading the comments under

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff like this, and the comments were like trade Franciscualaveras.

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Who would even give up something for Francisco alvers It's

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>very much missing the point of what Francisco Alvarez is

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>and where his skill set fits into the wider league context.

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Also, who would give up something for Francisca Alvera's He

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>might be the guy who gets us the most back

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in the trade deadline if he were to be moved.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>That's the only reason why I think that the Mets

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>would ever consider trading him is that there might be

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>a package that comes back where you almost have to

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>make this trade for a guy who we think is

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.760
<v Speaker 1>still going to be a great player, but has injury

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>problems for sure, and has been inconsistent at times at

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the plate, especially on the power side, and with some

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>other big major league from major league trades have happened

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 1>in the last few years. Was it right for that?

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to give me a couple of minutes

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to think about it. Risk keep in your back pocket.

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>The biggest problem that I have with the idea of

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>trading Francisco Alvarez is similar to our other Francisco, who

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the fuck's gonna catch?

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because again similar to why he'd be so valuable

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>in the trade. Like catchers who hit you have the

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 2>legit power do not grow on trees it catchers who

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>league average do not grow on trees. The way Francisco

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Alvarez trade to me makes sense is if the team

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>is just really dead on him actually being a catcher.

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Which is maybe the only thing, because if Princess Guaverras

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>does not play catcher, his value is absolutely crushed.

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it goes complete in the tubes because he's not

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 2>big enough to be a first baseman. No, I don't

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>know if he's liberal enough to be like a third

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>base oldes.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Who played a little second base when he was growing up.

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 2>That's the one that actually could make sense for him,

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>prinsus squivers that those double plays would be a complete

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>adventure every time.

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you could stick for sus

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>squeal fors in the outfield.

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 2>But like so that becomes a big part of this

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>because he doesn't hit enough to be a negative value defensively.

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.280
<v Speaker 2>We like years ago that he was building himself up defensively,

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 2>and he has had moments, flashes, spurts, but it does

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 2>seem like, especially the knee injury, he seems to I'm

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>not gonna say he's playing through right now, but you taramniskis,

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 2>you come back in six weeks, that will affect you

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 2>behind the plate, That will affect you pop times, that

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:50.240
<v Speaker 2>will affect the way you get out of your crouch.

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 2>And that seems to be happening with Alparez right now.

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>And he's been a bad receiver forever. He's never been

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 2>a good receiver of the ball. Like there were those

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 2>teen tiny little messages that he was getting a lot

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 2>better at it than the second he got to the leagues,

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Like this guy's not very good at this.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>No, he definitely doesn't see the ball particularly well out

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of the pitcher's hands. But the reason you look past

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 1>is because he has the potential to be an elite

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>power hitter from behind the dish, and that hasn't developed

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>as quickly as we like. But again, it's like the conversation,

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>like he's twenty four, he's twenty five, like a lot

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of these players with Dylan Dingler's like, what like twenty

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>seven right now? Like, no, I think he's twenty eight.

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I was was a college kid.

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I was a junior when he was a

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.839
<v Speaker 1>fresh mix. I remember watching him. He's turning twenty eight

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>this year, Like, yeah, him, don't think the same year.

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have He didn't become a starting catcher until

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.439
<v Speaker 1>he was twenty six. I think he might have been

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 1>an eerie when he was Francisco obre as his age,

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.800
<v Speaker 1>which is probably a tired thing for us to keep saying,

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>but it also is the truth.

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 2>No, it is, and the you just don't trade guys

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 2>like this when they're pre arbitrations. Just it's again, maybe

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 2>not you don't trade guys like this, but it's a

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:53.919
<v Speaker 2>message to the league that the metsag is incredibly open

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 2>for business, incredibly open for business.

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I do think that the Francisco Alvarez trade, maybe this

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 1>isn't how it works, but I I feel like the

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>conversations that we've had with some guys like Zack Scott,

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the way that like we had to talk about how

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>trade talks go. I feel like Francisco Alvarez starts the

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>conversation to then just trade Louise Torenz because I don't

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>like Louise trends. We love him as a backup, but

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>also we do have to look at what he is.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>He can't really hit. I know he got the big

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>hit in this game, but like a six oh five

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>ops is about the best we're gonna see from him.

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And he is great behind the plate, But is that

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>really something that you shouldn't cash in on for anything

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>at some point?

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 2>He's also thirty and it wouldn't really It shocked me

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 2>when they gave him that extension.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Shock kind of felt like, kind of not necessary at all.

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm good for Maybe it is the kind of thing

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>that if you want to really prelude the trade, but

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 2>this answer doesn't. I'm pretty sure the extension does not

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.240
<v Speaker 2>kick until next year because like Will mentioned that article

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 2>like Baseball teams love fixed costs. Yes, the way, because

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Terren's debuted so late, he was still going to be

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>in the arbitration system. You just don't really know the

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 2>guy like that's going to be worth I don't.

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.959
<v Speaker 1>Really it's next year five to seven five seven.

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't know if he would have been

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 2>worth more than that even arbitration. But I mean, he's

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 2>playing a lot more now. Maybe that was what it is.

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they realized he's two two in RB last year,

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 2>So that did come right at the time when Alver

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 2>was about to set the mist more time. Yes, so

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe they kind of evaluated where his defensive projection was

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 2>and they realized how much war that's worth and how

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 2>much that leads to arbitration.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>They just want to get him under that for this again,

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>These front officers are doing things that we on the

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 2>outside of fans don't really keep track of. I digress

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the same time, if there was ever a universe where

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Francisco Alvarez stayed healthy for one hundred and sixty two

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 2>games and he got himself to a nice clean sturdy,

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>like four hundred and forty played appearances. Even as a

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 2>bad defender, he would just be like a three win player,

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 2>which would be super valuable. And again, when he's not

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 2>costing you any money and he's popping twenty home runs

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 2>from the six or seven spot in the order, even

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 2>with the big strikeouts in the big spots because swings

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 2>to the defences every time, it's still just a very

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 2>valuable player, archetype that doesn't exist very much in the

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 2>open market, which is why the only reason to trade

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 2>him is if some gives you a huge offer, which

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 2>is why you float that you're thinking about it, Yes.

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Because this is the start the bidding war. Probably doesn't

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>end up getting moved, That's what seems like, and I

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 1>do think that again, anyone who's interested in Francisco Alvarez,

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>theoretically you can be like, Okay, how about for a

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old in the Dominican you get this great

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>defensive backup catcher. But also in this piece, Will said

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 1>that it would be a trade where you kind of

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>look to Dre trade out of his strength for another

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>team's strength to get major league ready talent for Luis Torrenz.

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>No for Alvarez. Oh, okay, okay, because also, like, do

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you think I'm sure? I mean, let's see who could

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>use a catcher at the Yankees. The Yankee so would

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>take one of their million pitchers, Henry Lane. They would

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>trade a pitcher for a catcher like that, Okay, catcher.

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing about this talk about how rare

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 2>shortstops are moved. Catchers are very rarely moved at the

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 2>trade deadline. Never Lucroi is the big one. And what

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>a flop he was after the deadline. What a fucking

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.240
<v Speaker 2>stinker that guy is. Yeah, right, but he's a little stinker.

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's also why right now, Jeffers, even with a

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 2>broken handmade bone and even approaching free agency, it's just

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>not something that happens. Catcher and shortstop oppositions that very

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>often come from within. Yes, so it'd be weird to

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 2>trade the guys that you have from within without very

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 2>obvious replacements. And Mets don't have massive prospects banging down

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 2>the door with these positions, not even close to it.

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear about Vin prod is bating

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 1>average triplet les. No, you just stop.

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 2>It's just not a major league baseball player and the

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Mets the other day, like, if you trade Franciscaulers, this

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 2>basically would be the team giving a huge pot the

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 2>confidence in Chris Suero, which he would become. He would

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>be catching in the major leagues in the second half,

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 2>which and he's a thirty percent shreckout rate.

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>In Double A. Yeah, that's probably not the best for

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>player development, which we know the Mets are going to

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.760
<v Speaker 1>be looking at. It's just it's a very weird situation,

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>which again just tells me the Mets would do this

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to try and get some kind of monster offer. And

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 1>Steve did call out David Searns in that in that podcast, saying,

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 1>this time for my front office to be creative because

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to have another losing season next year.

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.839
<v Speaker 1>And there are so many steps that need to take

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>place this roster be in positioned to compete by next season,

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and those steps are probably not trading the Franciscos. Can

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I say some really, I say it discuss disgusting sentence

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>right now. They're very much in the trust for you,

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.359
<v Speaker 1>me and all of our friends. I feel like if

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>we keep Alvarez, like Alvarez, benj Lindor Soto ewing that

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:12.919
<v Speaker 1>has the making of a core that you can still

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 1>very much build around. I said that last episode it

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>got clips. I'm like, this is an incredibly good like

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 1>set of five guys here I've set of. It's just

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that we have about five hundred layers five hundred feet

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>of dog shits around surrounding them right now, and we

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>don't have starting pitching Like there are way I think

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>both two things can be good. I think there's actually

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a good core on this team, especially for the future,

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and now it's about finding all those ancillary pieces and

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the guys that David Sturtns tried to

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>bring in this offseason we're supposed to be that it

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>did not work. So I don't know, Like I don't

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like from a casual baseball fan or like national

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 1>baseball fan perspective, if you believed in this core going

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 1>into the season and thought the pieces around that they

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>brought it were good enough, like I feel like you

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>could kind of shock yourself and the believe and did

0:45:58.760 --> 0:45:59.280
<v Speaker 1>to it again.

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 2>I think one hundred percent, I think this team will

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>And you didn't even say Bobashett that because he could

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 2>be here, Yeah, you could be here. I mean, I

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:08.879
<v Speaker 2>still crazy. I don't really don't think he will because

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I think he's going to be out. I think he's

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna he's third base has been good enough and his

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 2>bat's gonna be good enough in the second half that

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna go find a six, seven year contract from somebody.

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>These teams are not gonna see like a seven to

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty ops from Bobachette and be like oh poo who

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Like they're gonna be like, oh, in the second half

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you had an eleven hundred ops. Yeah, will take you.

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.919
<v Speaker 2>And right now, by far and away, the best free

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 2>agents next season are Jazz Chism and Ryan Jeffers too.

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Good and Jazz Chis was having a horrendous season, and

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>ye has is a vesting option. I'll know what that is.

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Like.

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>There's not there's not really like forty there's there's no

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>bats out there at all whatsoever. It's gonna be a

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>very very saying, not that this matters at all right now,

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 1>but just trying to get in the mind of Bobachett

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 1>making his decision. We also got a little bit of

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>news on Batty Ursio Vientos that specifically with Beatty they

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>met still internally feel like Bret Baidy could be a

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>part of the future of this organization, which I'm sure

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>is gonna drive people's crazy because utility player, bench guy, yeah,

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>part time player, and that trading Mauricio on Vento's right

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>now is going to be difficult because they basically have

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>zero trade value. Shocker, who saw that one coming.

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was another good note from Ken Rosenthal that

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the Pirates and the Mets are natural trade partners because

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 2>the Pirates this could be something can happen sooner rather

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 2>than later, because the Pirates have the thirty fourth pick,

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 2>a comp a pick in the draft that they want

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 2>to offset the cost of that to their major league roster.

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Right now, which is just fucking poor. Some guys should

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>sell the team. But like that, that makes so much

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>sense to me for a guy like Brooks Raley, and

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.439
<v Speaker 1>that's paid down the one point eight million of Brooks

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Raley do for the rest of the season. It'll be

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more right now, because I it happens

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>before the draft, you'd be like two point two million

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and you just you get the thirty fourth pick and

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you get to add to your draft pool. That'd be phenomenal.

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I would freak out. If the Mets could do that,

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>would love another first round pick. Oh, here's here's the

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>fun exercise. Let's name some guys right now and say

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 1>if you think they're gonna be traded. Okay, you're gonna

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>come up with the names. Yeah, I'm gonna go in order.

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>As I listen the roster resource cour one Boba Schet

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>no knowing that the no trade clause and the comments

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that he made about how he wants to stay in

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>New York, he also can decide if he wants to

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 1>stay in New York. I don't think that there's a

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.919
<v Speaker 1>world where he's gonna be moved, And it doesn't seem

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 1>like teams want to take that option.

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Still, Yeah, I think it would have to be like

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 2>a conditional you are opting out and the Mets, or

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 2>if you're not. If you don't opt out the Mets,

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:15.959
<v Speaker 2>you have to give us ten million dollars.

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think the Mets would even do that then.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>And just to comment the comments, Mark was referring to

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Bobashet said to Will Sam in this piece about all

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline stuff, I came to New York to

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 2>win the no trade claws.

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>There for a reason. I'm just leaving it at that.

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to trade him, but I don't think it's

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen for a Francisco Lindor, No Jared Young. Maybe

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe someone wants left him left you bat if

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Jake Bowers gets hurt, he's a brewery. I don't want

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to see that happen. Francisco Alvarez. I don't think he

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>gets traded. I don't think so either, But I don't

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 1>even want him to.

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 2>But I actually do see the vision very much, because

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 2>if they really are that sour on his defense, and

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 2>some other team is a little bit desperate to get

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>him in there, and they'll care as much about the defense,

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I can see that. See Ramirez right now, a little better, yeah,

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>much better defensively, Yeah, but he's a game changer in

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 2>the exact opposite way that is meant to be used.

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:06.240
<v Speaker 2>He ruins games defensively.

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>A catcher, all right. I couldn't speak Brett baby. I

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:11.799
<v Speaker 1>don't think he gets traded. You know it's gonna want

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that Torrent traded. Yeah, you see that, I think so. Yeah,

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you think it's gonna happen. They trade him to the

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Long Island Ducks Mauricio. Someone's gonna take him. Traded, Tyron

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Taylor traded, Freddy traded. How much you think you get?

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna get a fringe top one hundred prospect,

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.479
<v Speaker 1>and depending on who the team is and how badly

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 1>they need the pitching, it will be two prospects. Will

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 1>be a fringe top one hundred and a toolsy eighteen

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 1>year old guy. I like that too, And I think

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you might be able to sneak like a top baby prospect,

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 1>which would be sick. I'd love back to the But

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.759
<v Speaker 1>then that's right, Brandon woodris hurt. They need another guy

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to be Alexander Frio. Oh, I wish. I'll never do that.

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Luke Weaver, so it's an interesting one too.

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 2>In Sam's piece, he really emphasized the fact that Mets

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 2>see him as someone that should be in the bullpen

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:09.879
<v Speaker 2>next year and that acquiring him will require a Hall

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 2>exact quote.

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that knowing how much the Mets are now

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>thinking about makeup and how you fit in New York,

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Luke Weaver has done it for both

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>New York teams, and Luke Weaver really has been a

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 1>fucking dog for the Mets since like that rough start,

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I think they do value that more than maybe what

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a return could be for a reliever with a year

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and a half of control. But I mentioned traded.

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 2>We'll mention that too, about the fact that it's very

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 2>impressive to club officials how he hit the tubes and

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the team hit the tubes.

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 1>They went blazing hot.

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:39.239
<v Speaker 2>He did this for the Yankees two a few years ago,

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and then last year he ended the season poorly and

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 2>still shut up the Mets and played well. He's he's

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.399
<v Speaker 2>a very very very good reliever, right. I just don't

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 2>even a haul that you get for a reliever at

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.320
<v Speaker 2>the deadline unless your name is Mason Miller or Joan Durant, Like,

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 2>unless you're a blockdown, one hundred mile an hour closer.

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>You just don't really get massive pieces.

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>For guys like that. Camillo de'v all had years and

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 1>years of control and costs nothing, and we thought he

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 1>had some of the nastiest stuff and he was straight

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>for garbage.

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, now seeing Camille Davall and knowing some

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 2>of the things I've heard about Camille Davall, it doesn't

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 2>make sense why he would.

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Be like, get out of here. Yeah, but uh it is.

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean even Bednar traded for relatively nothing, and you

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>know he's awesome, He's he's nails. I mean, you want

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>to get you want to get triple A catcher. Then

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you can go over the door of the rest of

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>these moves. Dude, yank, he's got to have another one, wastcar. No,

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 1>he's staying so much team control, so much team control.

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>He's four more years together, They're gonna they're gonna bring

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>out Wascar brass Bot in a wheelchair when he's eighty,

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>throw some innings, mintor traded. I think he's one hundred

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:37.319
<v Speaker 1>percent gone him and rarely are great pieces, so point

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>five yr a I wish I can't wait to give

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 1>him his final big booms?

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Uh co I.

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Traded? You think who's who's taking Cody's two years left

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the Astros? Oh my god? Maybe actually, like you know,

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 1>everything we did wrong with tattoo and mine, let's try

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>his screw up again. I actually have no idea. I

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>finding a partner for him is hard, but I do

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>think out of the pen he's more interesting. I do

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>wonder who's a team that could like really optimize him.

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>The Angels would love code. I sanga, No, there's no

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 1>way that that would fit.

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 2>He would just go back, you go back to Japan,

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:16.560
<v Speaker 2>that situation, that'd be horrible. I guess then the last

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.720
<v Speaker 2>one is really Lewis Roberts traded.

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think as long as he's got

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a pulse, it's tough for any team to not I

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 1>guess the money is the problem, but it suffered a

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 1>team to not be intrigued. But also they weren't intrigued

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 1>last offseason, so I mean, I think they were intrigued.

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the White Sox ask was very high.

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 2>The Mets right now, knowing how badly they want to

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>trade him, not feeling that they were not committed to

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the most electric superstars in the game. That

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 2>seems like they helped to squander you kind of just

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:45.759
<v Speaker 2>trade him if you can. Arbitrage bed in Louis on

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Helicunya like it all worked out.

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, if that was a win, one of

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the rare wins. Wait, there's more guys we got to

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about on here. I gotta play homes. He said

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna he The next start he wants to make

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>is for the major league roster. I don't know if

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they'll let him do that, but it's crazy traded. I

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.759
<v Speaker 1>mean that said off the active roster. Uh, you don't

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 1>think that anyone's gonna want Sean and Iah, I said,

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Sean and I said, no, No, he didn't ask me.

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Sean and Iah said, I also don't know why he's

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 2>twenty five million dollars next year.

0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Cee A no Perez throw ninety eight from the left side.

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Guess something for CNL Austin Weaver or Weaver as Warren.

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe maybe not. No one will take

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Devin Williams surely. Eric Wackerman, I mean Devin Williams. I'm

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:27.840
<v Speaker 1>just we don't even talk about Devin Williams mushrooms to night.

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just so mad a guy like him, like his

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>his the the airbenders not bending, it was I mean,

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this happened the beginning of the year, was bending, then

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 1>stopped bending. Then he got it back.

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 2>But just it just goes to show why when you

0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:41.320
<v Speaker 2>have a two pitch closer who doesn't have a dominant

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 2>fastball and they kind of throw everything in the same

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 2>spot like, it's just kind of easy for a hitter

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 2>to eventually put you into a box, and the way

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 2>he keeps losing the fastball velocity, and the way that

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 2>pitch just went from the best pitch in baseball is

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:52.879
<v Speaker 2>just a really good pitch.

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:53.320
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know.

0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we somehow avoid the guy who was in a

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>cock fighting ring and also hurt himself, and we got

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the worst options still, and MLB said that I have

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>looking into it, and Edwin said, I didn't do anything illegal,

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>so there's nothing wrong because cockfight, he's not illegal anymore.

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I hope I didn't get fit coiled there on Twitter.

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry if I did, but that's pretty much it.

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Then this team's gonna get ripped to shrads at the deadline.

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what that means? What we're drinking eggs. Ryan

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Lambert's coming up. Ran Laber's com ut to do to

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:19.439
<v Speaker 1>drink those eggs? Might be the next simmers in the field.

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Stuff's looking good, suffling good. He's throwing strikes, unsure. Never

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.840
<v Speaker 1>there's no way to know Tobias Myers. Is he trade

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Tobias Myers? I just want him to come back up

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:30.919
<v Speaker 1>and just be a star of the regular I don't

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>care about anything else anymore. Do the Mets trade Joanatan, No,

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 1>do you move him in a package to go get

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>a somebody who's got a little more cont like two

0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>three years of control. I could help over the next

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 1>two years more.

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 2>No shot, Just that's that's the kind of thing. I

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think he trade and that's it. That's to appreciated

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 2>that much. Just chicken in, that's that's trade.

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Either. That could be a third episode we focus on

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>soon players with team control. The met should look at

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Jorge Polanka you think he gets traded?

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Fuck that, I mean he looksx actuly gonna play soon

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 2>few homers. Also, we're gonna the stoppable force will meet

0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the movable objects as we had to. Then that next

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:09.359
<v Speaker 2>series started tomorrow home against the Royals. That's actually home

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 2>this week. Maybe we'll try to get to a game.

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh they Oh we have softball tomorrow. Yeah, I don't

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna If you need tickets, shames you let

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>me know.

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I got you.

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Then, so who's giving going to pitch tomorrow? It's

0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a really good question you just had, which is a

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>four game series. We used all the guys. Who is

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna pitch? They're gonna call Zach Thornton back up, has

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<v Speaker 1>it been thirteen days. I don't think it has been

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen days yet. So someone could get hurt and sent down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he could come back up when Coli gets

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<v Speaker 1>bad because he did it on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was also Who in the world is gonna pitch?

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<v Speaker 2>That's his throat, that code will pitch a bunch. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's gonna start. Could Tobias come back up?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe has he been down? No, he hasn't been down

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<v Speaker 1>long enough either, gonna need I don't know. I really

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<v Speaker 1>have no clue. Who's gonna pitch. Maybe it's uh the

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<v Speaker 1>new guy wheelow down and bring up to warde again

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<v Speaker 1>and you throw some innings. Yeah, maybe that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>M check the transaction log, see when zach Thorton actually

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<v Speaker 2>got sent down. Maybe this is the plan for him

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<v Speaker 2>to have come back up.

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<v Speaker 1>We did grab that guy, you see, Matt Selinger from

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:13.319
<v Speaker 1>the Tigers for cash. Apparently he's not bad and also

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<v Speaker 1>has a knuckle variation that he throws. Maybe he just

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<v Speaker 1>pitches tomorrow Wexler, Is he a workload guy? I shout,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Wexler, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Thorton was optioned on June twenty seventh, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>perfect Jack Thornton.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like he will be promoted tomorrow when he's

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to be. Couldn't couldn't have done it any better myself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's David Stearns through the kneel every time.

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<v Speaker 3>Brother.

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<v Speaker 2>So it looks like we get Saxtically we get Zach Thorton,

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<v Speaker 2>go that saying a combination possibly against Seth Lugo. So

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:40.440
<v Speaker 2>nice homecoming for Seth Luca. Wh'll get a nice let

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:43.080
<v Speaker 2>video on the board. Oh yeah, of course, Christian Scott

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<v Speaker 2>and ESPN doesn't have anyone for the Royals on Wednesday

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 2>and then Thursday day game Sean and I Michael waka.

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:54.919
<v Speaker 1>Royals are also really bad? Rules are just The Royals

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 1>are a sad team. They're, like I said, is the

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Mets right now, but for so many different reasons.

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 2>They put up a fifteenth spag Christopher Sanchez though after

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a questionable scoring decision, because mlbn's their golden boy Jacob

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Zerawski to win the cy Young Jack hag Leon's awesome.

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Jack Cuming was awesome.

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:11.320
<v Speaker 2>He's got a little cold again, but he's still fantastic.

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, cold's like relative to him being the hot

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:15.280
<v Speaker 2>center in baseball two weeks ago. But he's he's awesome,

0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 2>coming into his own awesome, just one of the best

0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 2>players in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fun to watch him do Starling Marte

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>home comings gonna be great. Oh, he's gonna get a

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<v Speaker 1>video too. He hits in the hardy orders some days

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 1>for them. It's fourth that really blew my mind. Carter Jensen,

0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:31.120
<v Speaker 1>really good young catcher, really good young catcher.

0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Not having the best season, but just kind of you know,

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 2>rookie you sophomore slumping kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's it. Yeah, is it? They also had

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<v Speaker 1>a weird Monday series ender against the Phillies. What's going on?

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 1>What's going on with Major League Baseball in these schedules?

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Huh No, this is weird.

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<v Speaker 2>The Royals have also had an absolute bullpen catastrophe this season.

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 1>They nobody's pitching well except my guy, Daniel Lynch. They

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>tried your boy, Nickmers. I don't think he is either. No,

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Tryers is hurt.

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 2>They tried to plug up a lot of bullpen holes

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<v Speaker 2>with veterans over the last few years, and almost every

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 2>single guys on the part over the over the last bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You were right about the Stromp falloff. Yeah, so Trump's dead.

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>That was your guy, and you were like, but not

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 1>with the Royals. It's over and ba and Bowlan has

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 1>been way better with the Phillies, much better. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's I guess all we got for the Royals. I

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>think I probably got frank See if you got Frankie Peppers.

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 1>If not, that's okay too, Frankie. I don't know how

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 1>we found an hour here because we're sick in the

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>head I had. I had the rant about Boomer. James

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<v Speaker 1>took his headphones off so he doesn't hear me. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>leave a comment on this video and say congratulations to

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 1>James for nothing. He has no clue, but uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's loading up Frankie peppers. Now for those of you

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>listening at home, got the headphones in, what, let's hear

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<v Speaker 1>Frankie Peppers. Here comes frank I hope he left us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear Frankie before before I go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta edit this one. Yeah, that's all right. God, USA,

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<v Speaker 1>what a disappointing game. Huh so bad Frankie pockets ouled me?

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you really foul? Though? It's funny, I mean even

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 1>us A corner, US A corner. Who what the joke

0:58:57.080 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>was that? I mean, like, that's exactly how I would

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:01.760
<v Speaker 1>have expect them to play coming into the World Cup.

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Then they filled those because they played the soft teams,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that was an embarrassing show of ability that

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<v Speaker 1>was that's that took US soccer backs some years. This

0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be like nine people in the world that

0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>get this reference who are still listening to this right now.

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Nine actually might be stretched might be like two other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's when Ohio State was really good, churning twenty

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty get to the national title game after Justin Fields

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 2>RiPPs Clemson apart, and they just.

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 1>They still had was Lee Mikenberg. Was he the linebacker?

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State had a tradition where they just it was

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 1>always a white male linebacker and Alabama they did the

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:37.720
<v Speaker 1>jet like the orbit or jet sweep. Every single player

0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>was with DeVonta Smith and the would either pitch it

0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:41.280
<v Speaker 1>to him or they were throwing the ball on the flat.

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:43.240
<v Speaker 2>It was a linebacker running around to cover him. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, this is the last thing you need

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 2>to fix this if you actually really want to play

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.440
<v Speaker 2>with the real guys out there. And that's just what

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 2>timm Ree was in this game. Like Belgium was like,

0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:52.560
<v Speaker 2>is this a joke? Look at this four year old

0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 2>hes slow, he's small. He got bullied every single possession of.

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Least for Charlotte FC. How do we have all these

0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 1>guys playing in Europe in one of our main center

1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>backs is plaguing in the fucking MLS? Is that even

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the MLS? That's the second division? No, THAT'SLS. Okay, just

1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:10.040
<v Speaker 1>has like forty teams now really so many? They expanded

1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:11.960
<v Speaker 1>like they were adding like four teams a year for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Yeah. Again, it was fun for a moment

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<v Speaker 1>for USA. The battle and stuff is hilarious now respect

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<v Speaker 1>so fucked up now? Yeah, I was like a sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>we messed up the World Cup for you guys. But

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<v Speaker 1>here goes Frankie Peppers frank a Well, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>hearing Frankie minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Frankie. I don't know how a split can feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you got swept, but this split where I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the Mets got swept, I don't know how I feel

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<v Speaker 3>about that. I should talk to like a counselor, especially

1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:48.120
<v Speaker 3>because after what the baseball team has put us through.

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<v Speaker 3>My hot take for this time is all. The met

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:53.880
<v Speaker 3>should go to therapy. All right, gentlemen, take care, Let's

1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 3>go Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankie's hot sauce. Take need a little gen Melfie. She

1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:04.200
<v Speaker 1>haven't been watched soprans. This is so funny. First two

1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:07.680
<v Speaker 1>season soprans are incredible comedy, so good, so ridiculously good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here's the He's the Mess Up podcast. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the mess of podcast. Uh, that's it. Subscribe download, see

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<v Speaker 1>you trade. Deadline is gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get you guys here. Let's go Mets.

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<v Speaker 3>M hm m hm, h m hmmmm m hm.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the