1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Michael vaugh and I'm Scott Sashnik. Every week 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: at this time plus Monday's, Wednesdays and Thursdays, we explored 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: the big money issues in the world of sports. On 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: this week show, we are going to talk about the 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: top stories of the week and joining us, as with 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: all of our early shows, Bloomberg Business of Sports reporter 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Evan Noby Williams, We have to start a snippy Matt Patricia, 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Detroit Lions. He got mad 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: because I guess a reporter was trying to ask him 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: a question and he didn't like his posture. You know 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: how I bring this back to the Business of Sports bar. 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: What the NFL has created is a system whereby these coaches, 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: no matter whether they're one in twelve twelve and one, 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: they got the headsets that the coaches and the owners 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: have become the real authority figures. Because the players have 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: the helmets on. Basically, you don't know anybody unless they're 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: a star quarterback in the league. But all of the 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: coaches have become this big time authority figure the faces 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: of their franchises, and I think it leads to moments 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: like this where Matt Patricia is asked by a reporter 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: about Golden Tate and why the team is now better, 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: and rather than just answered the man's question, the reporter 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: got a lecture on posture. Do you think this makes 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: your franchise better? Um, well, you know, do me a favorite, 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: just kind of sit up and just like have a 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: little respect from the process. Every day you come and 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: ask me questions and you just kind of like, you know, 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: give me this, but I mean, like just just be 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: a little respectful. Just I'm asking just to be a 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: little respectful in this whole process. Okay, So ask me 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: a question professionally and I'll answer it for you. Ask 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: me a question professionally. This coming from the man who 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: I believe where did I first see on Twitter? Like 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: dressed like he pulled his his attire out of the laundry, 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: been with a pencil stuck in his ear like a contractor, 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: ready to measure twice, cut once, and he's lecturing a 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: reporter on like, don't slouch when you ask me a question. 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: It's the insanity. And you see this, and we're gonna 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: talk about college football here, the power or the seeming 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: power that these guys think they have. First the Lions 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: are three and four. The Lions and you're the Detroit 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: Take that, maybe, Patricia. He was upset because, let's think 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: about it. The Lions they got ahead to Minnesota, they 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: have to take on Adam Feeling, and then they gotta 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: go face the Chicago Bears on the road the following week. 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do that. Then you gotta play 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: host to the Carolina Panthers and then the Los Angeles Rams, 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: and I think the Bears are inserted in there for 49 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: another time. So I have been yelled at by so 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: many coaches in my career, just whether they're angry. I mean, 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: one of my first assignments ever as a NUBI in 52 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: this business, I asked Jim Beheim a question about Lawrence Moten. 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: I think he was. He missed a free throw and 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Lawrences said it was my fault. We lost. And I said, 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: and I said, do you think it was Lawrence's fault? 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Like trying to maybe do something afterwards? How he accepted 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: the blame, but surely it wasn't his. Have you ever 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: had a thought in your life? I just don't get it. 59 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: You know, how you do the job respectfully and the 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be done by not responding with 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: things like that. If I ask a question, answer it. 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: It's very simple. That's part of the job. I think 63 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: too many of these coaches forget that the media is 64 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: just as much a part of the job as diagramming plays, 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: calling plays xs and os. It's part of the job. 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: And I didn't know. I know, I went to journalism school. 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean I remember lots of years of journalism school. 68 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Never once did a book or a practical or professor 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: ever tell me when you're asking that question, be sure 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: you're sitting at a ninety degree angle. Do you do 71 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: you think that we hear about these these instances more 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: just because of the kind of medium earra were in. 73 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Happened all the time. Yeah, I we just hit the 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: fifteenth anniversary of that great HERM. Edwards press conference that 75 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: we play to win the game, you know, you know 76 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: that one you played to win the game exactly, which 77 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: is you know, like a cult classic now. But I 78 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: was reading from journalists who were there in the room 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: when it happened, who said that it was never It 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal when it happened. Even a couple 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: of days after, it wasn't a big deal because there 82 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: was not this easy way to to share that clip 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: all over for people to be outraged about it, and 84 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: that it's taken on a life of its own kind 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: of in this era where you can pop it up 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: on YouTube whenever you want and just play it, which 87 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: wasn't an option back then. Um, I've Twitter, but I'm 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: you haven't, So I'm you're as I don't think it's 89 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: any more prevalent now. Yes, we are just seeing it. Yes, 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: I agree with the good grouchy coaches for every Yeah, 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: but that's part of the that's part of the gig. 92 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Your media obligations are part of the gig. And it's 93 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, Belichick does it in this 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: a Michael character and by the way, man Patricians a disciple, absolutely, 95 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: but Belichick at this point, I don't I don't think 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: i'd ever seen him tell somebody asked the question and 97 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: respectful because you're slouching that that that doesn't seem that 98 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: that that doesn't seem like he'll just give his bland answer. 99 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of funny. It's sort of the 100 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: great Popovich thing, which became a big deal in TNT. 101 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Always wanted to publicize those those after period interviews with Popovich. 102 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: But I just I think it's all part of this 103 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: the power that the coaches feel, whether it's over the players, 104 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: over the meeting, whatever it may be, it's part of 105 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: that big power that coaches have. Do you think Matt 106 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Patricia gets a call from his boss, should he should? 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he does or doesn't, or will 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: or won't, but he should and say, hey, you know, 109 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: this is part of the gig. These guys helped pay 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the bills. Let's treat them respectfully. Scott and Evan, you 111 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: guys are a bastion of noledge. Just just accept this 112 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: and you're going to say something else there, like you 113 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: guys are the best gen of no. Okay, I thought 114 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: it was going somewhere else, and then you on our 115 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: next topic, let's meet the Mets, and let's meet the 116 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: Mets front office. There there appears to be a big, 117 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: dramatic problem that is brewing in the front office. By 118 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: picking agent van Wagenen as GM Brodie van Wagen I'm sorry, 119 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: You're right I should say the first name, yeah, just 120 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: in case people don't know him. Yes, But I find 121 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: it interesting the way it played out is that the 122 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: Mets asked Van Wagenen to assist with the search in 123 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: their GM, sir so, and then it became apparent that, hey, 124 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: maybe you should just take the gig yourself. I always 125 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: find it interesting when somebody helps the process at the 126 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: start and then winds up being the candidate. Just why 127 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: weren't you in the pool in the first place? And 128 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, this is a position you 129 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: think you want. Just an interesting dynamic in which it 130 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: came about. Yeah, and he's not the first agent to 131 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: make this jump from being on one side of negotiations 132 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: to the other. Um, the Arizona Diamondbacks. I believe I've 133 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: had two gms that were agents. First, there is a 134 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: whole host of conflicts of interest here. First of all, 135 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: he represents like the entire team, you know, he represents 136 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Jacob Degram, he represents you on Aspetus, he represents Noah Syndergard, 137 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Todd Frasier, Brandon Nimo, there's a few other guys as well. Um, 138 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: those are all situations that he's going to have to 139 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: obviously maneuver his way out of. Well let's let's but 140 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: let's say that he has severed tied with CIA, which 141 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: he had any financial ties. He there are some clauses here. 142 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: He will not be dealing directly in the negotiations with 143 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: the players that he used to represent, which he'll set 144 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: the tone for those talk. Okay, but the provisions are there. 145 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: They're trying to address these things. But the fact that 146 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: of the matter is sure, and then that exists. And 147 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: you know full well when you're represented by an agent, 148 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: you know you may share things with him or her 149 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: that you you might not want the team. My shoulder hurts. 150 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: He sure, yeah, And now suddenly he's on the other 151 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: he can't unhear the things that he's heard from his 152 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: clients over the years. Um. He said that he talked 153 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: to Jacob Degram. I'm sure he talked to all these guys. Um, 154 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: But it does make you wonder, uh, the extent to 155 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: which there is some conflict of interest here that can't 156 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: be avoided, no matter how much they put in his 157 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: contract that he can't negotiate with these guys or how 158 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: much they say that he has to avoid X and y. Um, 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird situation. Well, you talk about weird. 160 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: Remember sometimes words that you've uttered in the past and 161 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: come back to bite you. In that took us. Well, 162 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: remember took us and took us. That's to us. I 163 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: love it. Rings in, I've brought in, took us. Give me, 164 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: give me a little throat here to us. Can do it? 165 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: I can't do that. Can you spell it? T It's 166 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: halfway to chatch anyway, bubb Remember he said back in 167 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: the spring he thought there was some collusion with the 168 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: in the MLB. And I'm like, now you're one of us. 169 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: Can we put some big boy pants on for a 170 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: little while? Bar not to say didn't, but in these 171 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: conversations and people have brought up what he said about 172 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Jacob de Graham too. Well, the Mets should either sign 173 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: him long term, lock him up, or trade him. Right, 174 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Let's remember that the man had a job at the time. 175 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: He was the agent for Jacob deGrom, he was the 176 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: agent for other ball players. He came with an agenda 177 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: to say what he said. So let's put the big 178 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: boy pants on. And let's realize that sometimes in his position, 179 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: in the war of leverage and these labor talks, sometimes 180 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: you say things to get a little leverage, to push 181 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: someone in a certain way. I don't put so much 182 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: credence into well because he said this, How is he ever? 183 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean, my ole now, for sure he's got a 184 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: lock up David Jacob Degrab. Long term he represented Jacob Degrab. 185 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: He can now put on a different hat. He's a 186 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: big boy. He can put on that different hat and say, 187 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: oh whoa, My interests right now are no longer what 188 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: they were. Then my job is not to get Jacob 189 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: deGrom the biggest, longest, fattest contract that he wants with 190 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: the New York Mets. My job is now to take 191 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: care of the future and the current of the New 192 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: York Mets. And you better believe Jacob Degram understands that way. 193 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: I want to push back on this a little bit 194 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: because I'm not My opinion is not that he's unfit 195 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: to do this. I just totally understand how there may 196 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: be people out there who players of his who may 197 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: have shared information with him. Tony Clark, who runs the 198 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: MLB p A, you know who. This guy was on 199 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: conference calls with probably add nauseum talking about the players 200 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: approach to ownership and how they wanted to change the 201 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: dynamic there. I can totally understand why there are people 202 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: out there who might look at this and say, man, 203 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: that's that's an unfortunate situation for for me and I 204 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: and I worry maybe not intentionally about things that that 205 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: Brody may do, but just subconsciously the things that he 206 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: knows the playbooks. Yeah, but you know what, the understand 207 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: the playbook. They know they know the playbook that there 208 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: there are no state secrets. There really are, did you 209 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: I assume, and this is stake this with a huge 210 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: grand I assume you saw Scott Boris's comments, and you 211 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: know another super agent um the Boris Corporation stands for 212 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: total commitment to players. And while I've been offered many 213 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: opportunities with teams, I would never violate the trust that 214 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: I have with any player, and that's very important to 215 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: what I do. So in other words, he's saying that 216 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: is what he's saying bluntly once again, Yeah, and he's 217 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: saying that he is he has violated the trust that 218 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: was placed in him with conversations that he's had with 219 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the union and with the players. Now, I'm not saying it, 220 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: that's what that's Scott's saying it, right. That's well, again, 221 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: big boy pants, Scott Boris has a job, of course, 222 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: his job now is to solidify himself as this power 223 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: agent fight for the players he needs. He wants new 224 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: players to come to him. This statement is exactly what 225 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: I would want to hear if I was looking for 226 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: a new agent. And by the way, if this doesn't 227 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: work out for Brodie van Wagenen, let's consider it from 228 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: his side. If this GM thing doesn't work out. But 229 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: he got a four year deal, Brodie's what years old, 230 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: He's probably yeah, he probably wants he thank you for saying. 231 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: He probably is gonna want to do or something else 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: in this business. And odds are gms don't last ten years, 233 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: So he's taking a risk to that. Can he go back? 234 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Can he go back to this agent world agent life? 235 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Having now flipped to the other side, there's risk for 236 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: him to There are consequences to actions. He took this action. 237 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Let's see how it turns out. For By the way, 238 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: you know how I know this was a good story 239 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: because I talked to my mother in law and she's 240 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: down in Florida name Eileen, Eileen, and she and she said, 241 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: what is going on with the Mets? They used to 242 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: live here in the New York area, so she's like, 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: what's going on with the match? Tell her to move 244 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: to Port St. Lucy and see him in in the winter. Ye, 245 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure she has so well. Before we go on 246 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: to the next topic, how do you spell to us? 247 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: There seems to be some debate about the proper t 248 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: u k u s. That's c. I was gonna say that, 249 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: but then I see t ok us and I see 250 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: t u c k u S. I like the c 251 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: ktu s. Okay, that sounds like the way you would spell. Yeah. 252 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: And then Medina, our producer, was yelling at me. In 253 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: between I had to say that she was spell that. 254 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: You can go figure. Have you seen those commercials? By 255 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: the way, it's like the carmel the car service, Why 256 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: don't you much? Sup? They got and then they slow 257 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: mow it and it's like, what are you much? I 258 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: don't even understand what they're doing. Who are this appealing? 259 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: They confute? Is it? Is it only older Jewish women? 260 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: You remember the commercial that it's done its job. It's 261 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: almost enough to say I'm not using that car service? 262 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: Have you seen it? And not go to un right 263 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: away Google YouTube? What are you michugunuh? It's it's awful. 264 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: It's I could just see someone pitched it. But the 265 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: part that somebody approved it and said, yeah, let's go 266 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: with But that's what the commercial does. You're supposed to 267 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: remember the product, which you did. I guess I just uh, 268 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Maryland football program and DJ Durkin's 269 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: returned to Maryland as the football coach lasted one day. Well, 270 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: I let have been do it because I love when 271 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: we when we end up where we said we would 272 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: end up. But it happened so quickly. Yeah, I know 273 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: it's surprised by this. As we talked about this earlier 274 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: in the week, we expected there to be more chapters 275 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: to someone surprised by this. The board of Trustees is 276 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: surprised by this. And I don't even sure if they're 277 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: surprised by And then they were the ones the Board 278 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: of Regents made the decision to keep him. Maryland President 279 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: Wallace Lowe, who had been opposed to keeping him, accepted 280 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: their decision. The decision did finally rest with him, and 281 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: he reversed that decision to stay away from the page. 282 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Should he should mean retiring in the end of the year. 283 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Is is this not a great time to be like, 284 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I can't do this. I mean, the 285 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: the amount of people here who, in my opinion, should 286 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: have acted differently is from training. Very is a very 287 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: long list. Um, Maryland finally got to what I think 288 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: most people would agree was the logical and righteous give 289 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: me the business and give me the Maryland football business. 290 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, so they're firing him without with call I sorry, 291 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: without calls. So they're paying him the rest of his contract. 292 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: He's owed sixty of the rest of his five year deal. 293 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Depending on how you read the contract, I see it 294 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: at about five and a half million dollars. So they 295 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: have to pay that. There's certainly a chance of further loss. 296 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: Right if he wants to sue for deformation over the 297 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: whole process, he has that right. They're paying a buy 298 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: out to the strength coach, you know, the guy who 299 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: was running the practice when Jordan mcdair passed away. Um, 300 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: they now have to hire a new coach. You know, 301 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna cost money. There is obviously some damage 302 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: done to the football program. They've lost recruits. Well, we 303 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: haven't gotten to the possible wrongful death suit death suit 304 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: geats coming against the university, not just the football program. 305 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: Um comes from the same coffer, I mean, that's where 306 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: it comes from sure. Yeah, And again, as you said, 307 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: this is a football team that relies heavily on the 308 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: university in a conference where most of these schools do not, 309 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, the University of Michigan Wolverines, and they're not 310 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: getting student fees, they're not getting money from the universe. 311 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Remember they were taking away phones from professors at Rutgers 312 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: to help pay for football. Are we getting to the 313 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: point where we're gonna start seeing if I send my 314 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: kid to Maryland who doesn't care about football, doesn't go, 315 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: just wants to learn about fill in your major here? Wait? 316 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: Are they gonna start getting short changed because so much 317 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: money is being devoted to football And it's already happening. 318 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: There's already millions of dollars that are leaving the University 319 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: of Maryland the the academic side, that are going to 320 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: athletics and and a large part of that you mentioned 321 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: Rutgers and Rutgers is a good comparison because they were 322 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: both schools who maybe maybe shouldn't have been in the 323 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: Big Ten but were brought in for for TV rights reasons, 324 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: who are now spending way more than their means just 325 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: to try to keep pace with Ohio State in Michigan 326 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: State and Michigan. It seems like my wife should be 327 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: a football coach administrator at one of these. Not all 328 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: the way through anyway, there's a reason why you don't 329 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: hear about m I T. S football team. No, why 330 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: but I hear about Stanford's football team. I get it. 331 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: But I mean, people I don't. I mean, I mean, look, 332 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: it's m I T. It's like, you're there. You know, 333 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: you're there to learn. And I'm not knocking Maryland at all, 334 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of great programs out of Maryland, 335 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: but you know that there's a big football program there. 336 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: So again, I still just don't understand how this group 337 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: of trustees or regents, whatever you want to call them 338 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: had such little foresight. And bar I know you're gonna 339 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: like this point I'm gonna make. This might have happened 340 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: because some certain players walked out. Whether it was one 341 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: or two or three, remember Missouri football the last year. Okay, 342 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: the players have learned, not in the process. The players learned. 343 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: They know the collective power they have when and we 344 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: know it's been discussed, some teams have discussed maybe sitting 345 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: out the final four or the college football Playoff. You 346 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: want to make a statement as a college football athlete, 347 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: leave an imprint. You need a ring, you need a 348 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: boll trophy, you need something in the record book. What 349 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: happens when something so egregious is out there where? The 350 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: night before the championship game, the team has a meeting 351 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: in the hotel Borrowoman says, we are playing. We're not 352 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: doing it. Could you imagine the panic n CI A 353 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: school president school and you know those school coaches who 354 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: come out there, and I'm talking about anybody Nick saban 355 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: on down. When the players collectively say we ain't playing, 356 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: what do you think happens to that person? Remember the 357 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: movie The Right Stuff, And there was a point in 358 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: the movie where the remember rooting when they put the 359 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: jerseys down. Oh that starting gonna start crying on that. 360 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: Remember there was a point when there was a guy 361 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: he was getting on. Now they have assembled the whole team, 362 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: the Mercury team, and they're like, all right, you're gonna 363 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: do this or that, or you're gonna be fired. And 364 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: all of the astronauts then turned to him and said, collectively, 365 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: who are you gonna get? And that's basically what happens 366 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: when the entire team says oh, heck no, it's just 367 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: the power structure, and the players understand all the power 368 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: was with these coaches and administrator and universities. Evans kind 369 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: of signed he doesn't think it will ever happen. I 370 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen. I don't think it. I'm not 371 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: saying it will never happen. Um, I don't. I don't 372 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: think players fully understand. I mean, these are worlds, you know. 373 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: It's it's easy for us sitting in this chair, the 374 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: amount that we know about how this world works, it's 375 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: easy for us to say, oh, they've got to see 376 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: they have to see the power that they have. I 377 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: don't think that most players understand the power that they have. Again, 378 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: this this Maryland group with three players that walked out, 379 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it had an impact. The fact 380 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: that the student government was organizing a protest, I'm sure 381 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: also had an impact. It does take us players. Then 382 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: you get the outside leader comes in, the remote Hubba 383 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: comes in, or you get an NFL player, somebody comes 384 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: in and says, guys, let's talk. Yeah, I think basketball 385 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: is probably a better avenue for this. You need you 386 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to the University of Washington Wisconsin. I 387 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: think came the closest to this a couple of years 388 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: ago in the n c A Tournament. UM. I'm not 389 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: saying it. It will never happen. I would love it 390 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: to happen, UM, but I am not holding out my 391 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: breath for a for a an n c A basketball 392 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: revolution or players realize, oh my gosh, we've got all 393 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: the power in the world here if we just refused 394 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: to play. I do think. I do think that if 395 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: you're a it's a concern of your ESPN or if 396 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: your Fox Sports. UM. I have for a while tried 397 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: to figure out what what is in these contracts about 398 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: what happens if a team refuses to play. If that 399 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: is on the university to pay it, if it's on 400 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: the conference to pay it, if the networks are supposed 401 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: to just eat that money. And I don't have yeah, um, 402 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: but you know, it's something that is certainly on the 403 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: minds of people. But you know, a couple of years ago, 404 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: it felt like we were close to this inflection point, 405 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, with what was happening at Northwestern trying to unionize, 406 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: UM with the University of Wisconsin, probably the most wold 407 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: college basketball team that of the past couple of years, um, 408 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: and you know, flast forward two years and this is 409 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: where we are right now. I don't think much has changed. 410 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: And as much as I would like it too, I'm 411 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: concerned that, you know, we're not going to just think 412 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: the environment with the n c a A and all 413 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: that's happening, and you got this trial that it's it 414 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: doesn't take sixty five guys, it takes one or two 415 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: or three. And then you get the outside forces that 416 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: sort of descend upon the university and it's sort of 417 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: that ball rolling down the snowball down the hill. And 418 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: then the then the CNN shows up and and the 419 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: national media starts asking question and then you have this thing, 420 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: and I mean, this is a player death. And it 421 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: took just a few guys to be like, oh no, no, 422 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: no no. Then all of a sudden, one day later, 423 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: we have a change of heart and not just a 424 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: player death, a player death because of negligence, because of 425 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: the behalf of these guys well being. Yeah, we got 426 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: to shift the topic here a little more, if you 427 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: want to call it lighthearted. Boston Red Sox they held 428 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: their parade again. Congrats, you know, at Hallelujah. They held 429 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: the parade, the duck boats going down, beers flying, and 430 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: some fool damaging flying. They got arrested, right, yeah, I 431 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: got arrested. You throw a full can of beer, several 432 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: cans of full beer. That always happened. I've seen this 433 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: during parades where they've thrown it, somebody on the on 434 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: the player has caught it, popped it open. And the 435 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: fact as we've seen it, just this just seemed to damage. 436 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: Somebody got hitting, somebody damad hit. Someone else got hit. 437 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it smart. They wrecked the trophy, 438 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: the trophy on the air. You don't even know this. 439 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: You're talking to the guy who gave away his kids 440 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Halloween candy last night? Man, Why would you do that? Man? 441 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: Just savage. I didn't mean to. It was an accident. 442 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: My wife poured his stuff out into the bin on 443 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: the table. I was in the garage at the time. 444 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: I came in, thought we had extra, we had a 445 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: late knock on the door. I wanted to rid us 446 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: of all the inventory. I dumped the whole thing into 447 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: the three or four and then she said, where's this stuff? 448 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: I just gave it away? Does he know what happened? 449 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: Did he get upset. You're ready for the champion. Just 450 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: I have to replace it. That's all left it at that. 451 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I love your son salutation? What I mean? I didn't. 452 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: I should have known because our candy, our candy was terrible, 453 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: and I should have seen that this was good candy 454 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: like that we had gotten. Oh yes, I'm reading. What 455 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: did you give out? As your candy helped me? We 456 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: gave out and I got him sale at Target? How 457 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: much money do you think I'm spending on on Halloween? 458 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: Them on sale? Target? Step up your candy game once 459 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: a year? You living and support my wife and tell 460 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: me what I could want? Some carrots? Kids? Was a 461 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: Scots Scott's playing the long game here. Next year, no 462 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: one's going to come to the votes for Fathery the 463 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: year for Scott. Zero You got any other numbers of 464 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: the year of the week for us bar If I 465 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: would have said, I'd be in a punkin patch missing 466 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: all of Halloween candy said they were crazy? All right? Anyway, 467 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: you don't. I missed up the lion, so don't. Anyway. 468 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: It feels better to be number one than number five, 469 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: a number because of Mike. We have a chance to 470 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: go for three in a row numbers in a good time. 471 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: And I first started wearing the number, I was just 472 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: happy in Floomberg Business of Sports, the number of the week, 473 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: number of the week. Uh, here's the number five. Look 474 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: at each other on the number of home runs at 475 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: a r hitting this number. Yeah, it's I got really 476 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: close and yeah, I mean it's And William McCovey, I mean, 477 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: just a Hall of Famer, a great Giants player. Uh. 478 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: He passed several days ago, died at the age of eight. Uh, 479 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: this guy. I remember him as a kid when I 480 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: was watching him play, and it's like, wow, in the 481 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: All Star Game, that's the only time back then you 482 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: could actually see these guys play, and it was just 483 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: amazing and like six ft four two hundred, you know 484 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: what I remember. And I've met William McCovey a few 485 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: times out in San Francisco bar. You're you're a big guy, 486 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: did you're you're a big guy? Girth right? Yeah? I 487 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: shake your hand. Your hand is bigger than my hand, 488 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a strong hand shake. You shake 489 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Willia mccovey's hand, you lose your hand like it just disappears. 490 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: It's that like, you know what do they say. It's 491 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, things of meat, slices of meat. 492 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: He had like a sixty porterhouse hand shaken and nickname Stretch. Yeah. Yeah, 493 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: just a big, big dude and from by all accounts, 494 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: by the way, one of the nicest guys. I mean, 495 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't make these grand proclamations off 496 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: with a few meetings, but people who repeatedly dealt with 497 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: him said, just one of the nice guys. Well, god speed, 498 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: Willie McCovey, because you will be missed. You are listening 499 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: to the Bloomberg Business of Sports. We're here each and 500 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: every week at the same time, plus online as a podcast. 501 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: We're available. You can catch that Monday's, Wednesdays and Thursdays. 502 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Barr on Twitter at Big Bars, and I'm 503 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Evan Novie Williams. You can follow me at NOVI Underscore Williams. 504 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: And I'm Scott Sashnick. You can follow me on Twitter 505 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: at sash Nick. Thanks for joining us. Please tent next 506 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: week when we speak with the biggest and brightest in 507 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: the sports business industry. That's who we talked to write 508 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: and we will have a guest next week. We should 509 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: we explain that we had like a very late, late, 510 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: late late. We're not gonna say cancelation, late late late cancelations. 511 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: We're not gonna put that person on the shopping block. 512 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: But we had a lot of fun just just us 513 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: wrapping around. We did, and this is this happens when 514 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: people's schedules are busy and things happened. I mean, no harm, 515 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: no foul. But we do like to bring though the 516 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: folks in the industry once a week to let them 517 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: give you their insight into what's happening. Because we may 518 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: be the reporters and and see what's going on, but 519 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: these are the people doing the business every day and 520 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: that they add a very valuable insight. By the way, 521 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: I gotta add this, and they having a chance. You know, 522 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: I love my Perkins. Excuse me, I used the word 523 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: girthy before. Yeah, it's well, the Kmart in that complex 524 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: and that's shutting down. Give me a favorite because the 525 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: Walmart next door, so right, you give me a favorite bar. 526 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: Can you go get my Halloween candy for next year? Now? 527 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: I guarantee you can be big. It will keep get. 528 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: If I get the candy corn Cat no kick Cat Snickers, 529 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I'll take the candy car. Why would you get candy corn? 530 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: Worst Worst, Kane, I'm gonna I'm gonna do another movie 531 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: reference for your medina, but I'm not gonna say the 532 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: actual movie worst. Can it is? Oh my god, I 533 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: don't know? Worst pain is? Do you know? Oh? Wait, 534 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: guess yes, got hit in the up West. Pain is 535 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: chicks cane. Hold this smoke, That's what it is. You 536 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: even got a license? Least you know? Oh off, how 537 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: you do? How you doing? What are you listening to? 538 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: Bob uh The Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio 539 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: around the world as a podcast where available.