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Speaker 1: I am Bill Jones along with Mickey Spagnola, as the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys will now be looking for five straight wins on

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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon at at and T Stadium against the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: We're kind of making a habit here, Mickey. A victory Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: are it seems like? And as I shouldn't let everybody

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Speaker 1: know this, they're looking for the fifth of what Bill

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Speaker 1: says will be twelfth consecutive victory. That's right, I said

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Speaker 1: when Dak Prescott a month ago, when the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: Star said that he can't remember ever being three and

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Speaker 1: five before, while I went back and looked at Mississippi

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Speaker 1: four at one point at Mississippi State. Well, then he

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Speaker 1: rattled off twelve straight wins, and Mississippi State the next

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Speaker 1: if he rattled off twelve straight wins after that, sure

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Speaker 1: enough you did the math on it, the Cowboys would

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl in that twelve straight win. That's

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Speaker 1: my Bill Jones. That was my prediction back then. But

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Speaker 1: we've got bigger fish to fry right here, because we've

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Speaker 1: got a great legends guest tonight here at the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Club at the Star in Frisco, a big Cowboys Legends.

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Speaker 1: Hello to Patrick Creighton. How you doing, Patrick? I'm good myself,

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Speaker 1: doing very well. The pride of just Soto you yes,

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Speaker 1: fighting Eagles, only Eagles, I claim. There you go. So

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Speaker 1: it's timely on Eagles week. We've got a Toto Eagle here,

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Speaker 1: that is correct. I think you guys planning that just

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Speaker 1: in time. Yeah, yeah, a homegrown talent. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And of course we've got a lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: during that time. I can't wait to pick your brain

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Speaker 1: So why don't we catch up with you first? Here?

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Speaker 1: What what do you got going on? What are you

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Speaker 1: that's that's people always ask me, you know, would you

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Speaker 1: so so when you get here, no, it's on draft history.

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Speaker 1: And then when you get here it's like what was

425
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Speaker 1: your thoughts when you show up? And then there's Bill

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Speaker 1: Parcels by the way, Well, first off, I mean You're

427
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Speaker 1: drafted by the Dallas Cowboys. Correct, correct, you know what. Uh,

428
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Speaker 1: it's it's funny you say that, because when I actually

429
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Speaker 1: got the call, I was more more mappy at the time,

430
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Speaker 1: simply because I went until two sixteen. Yeah, you know,

431
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: and just talking. That's when I learned if that's when

432
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: I first learned the business aspect of the NFL. Looking

433
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: at them from the outside, looking in, you know, I

434
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: was like, okay, Scotts have told me this. That's what

435
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't go. Yeah, I was not a problem. I

436
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: sent home and wrote every name from one to two fifteen. No,

437
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: you did, because, by the way, I said, my mom

438
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: has all that stuff box. So you're sitting there watching

439
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: the draft, and I wrote down every name, and I

440
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: put an astrap beside every receiver. So how many receivers?

441
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Speaker 1: Did you ever go back and say? Okay? Yeah, definitely,

442
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 1: definitely around oh nine or twenty ten, there were four

443
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Speaker 1: of us left from the draft, from the whole draft,

444
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Speaker 1: from the draft glass. Because when I looked it up

445
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Speaker 1: and I saw two sixteen, and I said, okay, let

446
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: me start looking to see who went before him. I

447
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: see if I recognize any names. And I definitely was

448
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Speaker 1: probably out of the seventh round and oh, yeah, who

449
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: are these people? Yeah? Exactly, So one was Fitzgerald number

450
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Speaker 1: three overall. Yeah, and then Roy Oh that's right, yea.

451
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: Roy Williams came your teammates. So when you got here,

452
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: not here but Valley Ranch and Bill Parcels is there,

453
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Speaker 1: And what were your thoughts when you got into that first? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I guess it was a mini camp. I don't know

455
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Speaker 1: if it was the rookie mini camp. That's where this

456
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: story came from, because my headline was someone to root for,

457
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: and I specifically remembered him out there and he had

458
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Speaker 1: some sort of foot injury and it looked like it's like,

459
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Speaker 1: what's he doing. He's got to come out. He's hurt,

460
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: he can't hardly run, and he's dragging himself through all

461
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: this stuff. And afterwards I went up to him and

462
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: I said, you look like you're hurt. And and you

463
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Speaker 1: came back the next day and kept practicing, as I remember,

464
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Speaker 1: and it was a strained plantar fasciite fashion fashion hit.

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Speaker 1: It was strainer, did it right? And so I said, well,

466
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Speaker 1: you can't play with that, and he goes, I've never

467
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: been in so much pain in my life. But I'm

468
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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick and I know the deal, and

469
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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick can't sit out, especially with Bill

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Speaker 1: Parcels standing there. Correct. Uh, And that was truly my

471
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: mindset coming in. When it's habody tell you that or

472
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Speaker 1: you figured it out yourself. I think I kind of

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Speaker 1: figured out one. Not easily. Yeah, yeah with parcel Uh.

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Speaker 1: So when it happened, it probably happened thirty minutes into practice. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I remember making a plant and I thought it

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Speaker 1: was just a I heard it pop, but I thought

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Speaker 1: it was the tape that tour. So I get back

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Speaker 1: to the huddle and I tell uh Britt, I say, hey,

479
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Speaker 1: I felt the tape pop. Can you retape it? He

480
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: pulls my sock off and everything. He looks. He's left,

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00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: it's not tour, but okay, let me let me tape

482
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Speaker 1: it up again. Get in the huddle and I literally

483
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Speaker 1: take a step to run out wide and I just collapse.

484
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: That was like, what the heck just happened? So, I mean,

485
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: I pulled, they pulled me out that play and I

486
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: was like, I don't I don't know, I said, it

487
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: just feels like nothing's there. He takes he takes my

488
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: shoe off and taps it and Doc squeezing around and

489
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Speaker 1: he feels no tending. He's just told this, he feels

490
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Speaker 1: nothing there, and he's just like, yeah, you're tow it.

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00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: You tore it. And I was like, God, still practice

492
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Speaker 1: though it goes. It's all about the pain you can

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Speaker 1: accept and take. And I was like, I'll tape it

494
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Speaker 1: up and then I guess in treatment after practice and everything.

495
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: Uh and so finished practice, Uh, I go in start

496
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: getting treatment on it and everything. He feels around again. Doc,

497
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: Cooper's there. Cooper Fee's like, yeah, it's torn. It's torn.

498
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: He said, it's actually a good thing. It's better to

499
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Speaker 1: tear it than it is restrain it because the hending

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00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: the tending will just connect back and hill again away

501
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: from now. So I was like, okay, I said, so,

502
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: what's the usual recovery time on this? That's all three

503
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: four weeks? Maybe, you know, just depends on whether you

504
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: take care of this and don't you know, put any

505
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Speaker 1: pressure on in there. So they put me in a

506
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 1: sleeping boot, which I've never had before. It keeps your

507
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: foot at an any degree angles, most uncomfortable thing to

508
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: sleep with every because the very crow scratches your legs

509
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: if you turn over the middle of night. So it's

510
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: just it was. It was a horrible thing. Uh, finished

511
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Speaker 1: out rookie minicamp. I get back to school and I

512
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: immediately just they already called Mike the trainer, told her

513
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: what was going on everything, And I think I was

514
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: back in her office the first thing. I was back

515
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Speaker 1: at school, like, let's go and this this gotta be

516
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Speaker 1: it's gotta be going. She was like, well when I

517
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: when I asked him about it, uh, And it was

518
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: the first price. He didn't miss any of the practices,

519
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: and he said, you gotta deal with it. You gotta

520
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: suck it up. Uh. And he said and and and

521
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: knowing parcels right, he's not gonna give you any quarter, right,

522
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: He's not gonna baby or anything. He wants to see

523
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Speaker 1: how much you can do at And when I when

524
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Speaker 1: I asked Bill about it, Bill said, you know what,

525
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: you sprain a foot and training camp, it'll cost you

526
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: your job. It will call. That's how hard he was.

527
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: So he when I said that to him, he goes, there,

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Speaker 1: there you go. You can't get hurt, and and and

529
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: he kind of pushed through it, and uh, you know,

530
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Speaker 1: it was. It was amazing. And the other thing that

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Speaker 1: he recognized right from the start was that one of

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Speaker 1: his avenues to make this team was not only as

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Speaker 1: a receiver but special Bruce de Haven Right, all right.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Crayton and just a moment. Back to the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Legends Show, casting live from the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Club at the Star in Frisco. Twenty four seconds left.

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00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: It's first and goal at the four. They're eight down.

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00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Shotgun snap, g Romo pressured, throws it right, caught, touchdown.

544
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Speaker 1: Pat'm standing right under the s in bills, perfect throw,

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Speaker 1: one step in front of George Wilson. Now you gotta

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Speaker 1: go for two. Welcome back to the Cowboys Legend Show. Yes,

547
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Speaker 1: what a memorable game that was. Patrick Creighton, Eric Cowboys

548
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Speaker 1: Legends guest with the touchdown in Buffalo, Right, Mickey specnolo

549
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was October eighth of two thousand and seven,

550
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Tony Romo a Monday night game, Monday night game, and

551
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: it was a holiday. It was not only a holiday

552
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Speaker 1: in the US October eighth, it must have been Columbus

553
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Speaker 1: Day weekend. It was also Canada Day or something like that,

554
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: because I remember the celebrated Canada Day on October eighth

555
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: that year. I think, I don't know it was a

556
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: it was a holiday in because everybody was wrong, and

557
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: we're in Buffalo and we stayed downtown buff It was

558
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: a Bunday night game in dunk regardless. Man, I think

559
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: a matter of fact was that was that the game

560
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: the fire alarm went off in the hotel five in

561
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: the morning, had that one, and that was the the

562
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: eggs in battery and the eggs remember on the bus,

563
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: and I remember what happened when we left. But let

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: me finish with the game. So Romo throws four interceptions

565
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: in the first half, the first half, and they're only

566
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Speaker 1: down like seventeen to five in the game. Five in

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Speaker 1: the game. He threw another one in the second uh

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Speaker 1: in the second half. Uh, and so this touchdown, it's

569
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Speaker 1: third and six at the buffalo uh forty three and

570
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: they drive and romo to Creighton for eight yards. He

571
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: gets out of I'm ahead of myself. The touchdown was

572
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: a four yard catch and there was only twenty seconds

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Speaker 1: left in the game. Twenty seconds left in the game,

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Speaker 1: and that made the score one twenty four twenty two. Yeah, okay,

575
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: on side kiss and a guy with the name of

576
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Tony Curtis recovers the ball and the Cowboys have the ball.

577
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: Uh with uh like thirty seconds left. He catches two passes,

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00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: he gets out of bounds and they got the ball

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00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: first and ten at the buffalo thirty five with two

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Speaker 1: seconds left. He ended up with six catches for seventy

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Speaker 1: three yards. Uh. And then Nick Folk hits a fifty

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Speaker 1: three yard field goal at the buzzer front two of

583
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Speaker 1: them and he hit two of them right. That was

584
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: when they first started. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.

585
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: That that they called time out, uh and uh they

586
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: end up winning the game. And I believe if this

587
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: was the time in Buffalo, we pulled out on the

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00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: bus and that there were we had to go buy

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Speaker 1: where the RVs were, and there were three women on

590
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: top of the bus and they mooned us and they

591
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: still don't like us in Buffalo. I don't think I

592
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: found that out the hard way there. Yeah, do you

593
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Speaker 1: remember that, Patrick? I do? Okay, didn't not all understand up? No,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't make that up, all right. Danny sik here

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00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco, and

596
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: we have a question from someone in the audience for

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Speaker 1: Patrick Crayton. Danny, we sure do. Tonight's question right now

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Speaker 1: is from Drisco, who is from Frisco. Drisco from Frisco. Okay, Patrick, say,

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Speaker 1: so you're drafted the seventh round. So what was the

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Speaker 1: thinking of the coaches at that time about what they're

601
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: gonna do with you? I mean, obviously special teams somebody

602
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: that high, but you must have had some really special

603
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: abilities that they were thinking about you about you might

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00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: be the receiver that they need. What what was it?

605
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: Your your moves or your speed or you know what.

606
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure all the way. I mean, I had

607
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: a little talent, uh, but it was one to use

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00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: me however he could use me, so he had me

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Speaker 1: on every special teams. I was the third string quarterback,

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00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: so he'd made me go down there and take reps

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Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks, like I was going to actually get

612
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: in the game and play it. But that's just what

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00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: he did. He had me holding snaps, He had me

614
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Speaker 1: had the up back on put on, put on punk, kickoff,

615
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean on punt, the punt team. So everywhere he

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Speaker 1: could try to use me, he was going to use me,

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00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: and I could. That's probably one reason you stay that long.

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Speaker 1: I think it was far sales model was the more

619
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Speaker 1: you can do. Remind me how long you held snaps?

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Speaker 1: How long did the whole snaps none? Oh, okay, he

621
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Speaker 1: had you doing that this yeah, and then maybe we

622
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: should have had you. Oh, don't have to go hands

623
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Speaker 1: on the team when you have the guy with the

624
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: best hands on the team. I mean that was that

625
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: was a nice cube that he was trying to hold.

626
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: It was shining, It was shiny. And we were asking

627
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: the same thing during the game, like through these balls

628
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: slip and the that's what that's before they started letting

629
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks right picked their balls through the week and

630
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: bring them. They would just pull them foot out of

631
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: the box. And that's what you played with because prior

632
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: to that they had been doctor. They'd let them doctor.

633
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: I can remember I could remember those guys that valley ranched,

634
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: the equipment guys taking the balls on a Friday before

635
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: the game with a baseball bat and slamming them into

636
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: the bracketball court the back wall to kind of loosen

637
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: them up. And then they would put them in the

638
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: dryer with a bunch of softener in there. Uh and

639
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: and to get the slickness in them. Well, then then

640
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 1: they started doing the hours got real good. They would

641
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 1: actually take the footballs, the new ones that they got,

642
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: and put them in the shopping cart and take them,

643
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: put them in a level with the show and put

644
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: him in the sauna and let them hit them, brush

645
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: them down right, put them back in up a little

646
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: bit loanly, take him out, brush them down again and

647
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: give them us. They'll go beat him up in practice.

648
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It would be like baseball. Now, I don't

649
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: like that football, Give you another one throw any more.

650
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: In so to show you how smart I was, all right,

651
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: here's how I finished the column. What more do you want?

652
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: Hometown guy Small, a small school athlete underdog, made the

653
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: most of it. Most of a ant's tough, versatile head

654
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: screwed on straight. Not to mention obviously talented in a

655
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: cowboys position of great need. Yeah, like I said, keep

656
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: an eye on Patrick Crayton, you're gonna like this guy. Well,

657
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: thank you you. Did you know that Mickey wrote so

658
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: glowingly about you when you were playing. I remember doing it.

659
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: I could have been a scout, you know. I don't

660
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: read that. The media says, don't believe, don't eat the cheese,

661
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: don't buy into it. So I didn't read a whole

662
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: lot of media stuff. What do you remember about the

663
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: first time you met him or did he talk to

664
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: you or did uh he did? It wasn't a long

665
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: conversation whatsoever. It was kind of quick. Uh one of

666
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: his biggest things. Yeah, hey, you don't know ish, so

667
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: so pay attention. You may learn some things. Get around

668
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: these veterans, be wherever they go. And he made me

669
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: follow Terry Glenn wherever Terry Glenn went. Really, he goes

670
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: if I see eighty three, I better see eighty four

671
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: right behind him. So that's that's one of the reasons

672
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: me and Terry became so close. And of course Parcels

673
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: had Terry Glenn earlier in his career, so he knew

674
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: what he was all about. How surprised, were you or

675
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: were you surprised when Parcels decided to retire. Yeah, it

676
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: was a shot. I think it was a shot because

677
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: I think it came, you know, kind of out of nowhere. Uh.

678
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: It was after that Seattle playoff. It was out of

679
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: Seattle playoff game. Man. You know, we thought we were

680
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: building something. You were, I mean you went thirteen and

681
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: three the next year. So yeah, exactly. So it was like, Wow.

682
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: We always looked back and like, what if Parcels would

683
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: have stayed, how would this have changed, like the course

684
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: of some of our careers because we considered ourselves Parcels

685
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: guys may not have been a trip to Carbo man. Yeah,

686
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't think there would have been a trip to

687
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: so So it was early. It was what six games

688
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: into that two thousand and six season. You're playing a

689
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: little bit more and then all of a sudden, he

690
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: pulls the plug on Bledsoe and it's like Tony Romoor,

691
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: you're the quarterback. I don't know if you guys remember,

692
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: uh that game it was against the Giants. Yeah, it

693
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: was a Monday nighter exactly. Uh. Bledsoe literally missed two

694
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: point blank blitzes right in his face and we had

695
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: just I think just come off a time out and

696
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: he brought a gap with uh the linebacker fifty nine

697
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: who used to be I can not think of his name,

698
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: used to be a linebackery eighty eight. He's the middle

699
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: of Antonio Pierces and I mean that's a look right

700
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: at him and pointed at him, and he never looked

701
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: at him when he came in through the gap or

702
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: we were like what the We just me and the

703
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: receivers like what did he not see that one? And

704
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: I think that was the last and the last play

705
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: was the interception at the end of the half. At

706
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: the end of the half, and it was like, yeah,

707
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: did you guys know what was getting ready to happen? Yeah, yeah,

708
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: I think we had angling. Okay, so you weren't you

709
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: weren't surprised when he made the switch at halftime, Nah, No,

710
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: because they didn't stay long in the office at all.

711
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, usually the coaches we're going to deliberate. Yeah,

712
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I think by the time everybody got to the locker room,

713
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: they were coming out. How farself comes out, he goes, hey,

714
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm making the switch. Nine euro upe That's all he said.

715
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: And he walked out. What were your thoughts of Romo

716
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: at that point? I was, you know, I three years

717
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: of practicing, that's right for you or his guy? Right?

718
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: Let's yeah, Okay, I remember I remember my second year,

719
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean two new We're on the sidelines in practice,

720
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: one time, dinner, special team period where it wasn't punt

721
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: returned so we didn't have to be back there catching

722
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: punts and new go. He said, dude, this one dude

723
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. He said, if he ever gets his chance.

724
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: I was like, who, I said, Romo? He was like,

725
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Romo said, if he ever gets his chance, he's gonna

726
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: do something really and he did and he did. All right.

727
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: We continue with Patrick Craton in a moment, I want

728
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: to let you know that Cowboys Legend Show brought to

729
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: you by Fans United, where you can find game day

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Speaker 1: com to find a location near you and more with

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Speaker 1: Patrick Crayton. When the Cowboys Legend Show continues in a moment,

733
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: come back to the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Legends Show

734
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

735
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: Almost changing the plane now and here comes everybody and

736
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: what they block it up and he's throws it over

737
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: the middle of Craton, but the tackle at the ten,

738
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: he's coming left, he's walking the dog. He pens over

739
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: and puts it on the ground. Touchdown, Cowboys twenty yards

740
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: to Crayton, twenty seven seconds left. Dallas's regain the league

741
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys Legends show continues with Patrick Creighton here

742
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: from the Star in Frisco, Mickey Wood. Would you make

743
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: of that play? Well, that was November eleventh, in two

744
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. They were playing The Giants took the

745
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: lead on a twenty yard touchdown pass to Patrick Craton

746
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: with twenty seven seconds left in the first half, and

747
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Patrick remembers the play like it was yesterday. Oh yeah, yeah,

748
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: straight zero blitz. They brought that. They brought everybody and

749
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: left a flat tail across the top meeting every every

750
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: dB is up and Anon Ross was probably about six

751
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: yards off, and I think he knew this land was coming,

752
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: but he didn't trust it. And I held it straight enough,

753
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: just long enough to get across his face. And so

754
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: to finish the story, you heard Brad say, and he

755
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: put the ball on the ground. I put the ball

756
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: on the gold line because I had to say it

757
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: was one of those players where I was just in

758
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: one of those moments because I wanted to talk a

759
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: little noise to the Giants fans because they had been

760
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: hempling this coming out of that tunnel. Okay, cool set

761
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: the ball around on the gold line and Sam heard

762
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: jumps on it like it was a fumble. I remember

763
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: walking in where the film watching it and everybody goes

764
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: at coast go sent what were you thinking, coach? I

765
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: thought it was the phone. I thought I had me

766
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and you know the dared thing about it.

767
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: The Giants in twenty seven seconds came back and kicked

768
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: the field goal to tie at seventeen seventeen. The Cowboys

769
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: go on to win thirty one twenty. Patrick had five

770
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: catches for sixty six yards to touchdown and Tara Owens

771
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: had touchdown receptions of twenty five and fifty yards in

772
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: that game. All right, speaking to t Well, Danny's got

773
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: a question from someone here, and uh, we'll go to

774
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: Danny first and then I'll get a teo question in Patrick.

775
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: This next question for you comes from Steve from Frisco. Hey, Patrick,

776
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good. I'm originally from upstate New York,

777
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: so I was at that game, okay, and it was

778
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Columbus Day weekend will Columbus Day, and I believe everybody

779
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: was drunk. I wore my Cowboys jersey going up the

780
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: stands and they were throwing beer at me and ye

781
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: acting crazy and I'm from there. But you're right though,

782
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: but die hard cowboy finn. I had a question for you.

783
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: Back in the day, there was some controversy with Teo

784
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: coming out to the media and talking about Tony and

785
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Jason went and you know, uh do running plays in

786
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: the dirt and talking about uh, you know, doing some

787
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: side side plays. Were you surprised by that? And were

788
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: you surprised by t O's release by the Cowboys? Uh?

789
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: First question, I don't think I was like completely shocked

790
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: over t O's release. I think it was it came

791
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: at a time where we didn't think it was gonna happen,

792
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: But I don't think we were, you know, originally shocked

793
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: about it. Uh. Second question. Uh, second answer to that question, Uh, yeah,

794
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: they they they had their little meetings amongst each other.

795
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: So anothering was it wasn't a made up fictitious story. Uh,

796
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. I think it kind of threw all

797
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: of us like what the like, we want to be

798
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: involved with that too? Role, Like what it can't be

799
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: the only one you're throwing too. So that was, you know,

800
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: that was its own little drama. You know, it's it's

801
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: it's cowboys, dude. It's a it's a living soap opera.

802
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: We lived it, we had we we played parts, a

803
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: part of it, all of it. So yeah, it was

804
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: everyone had their own character involved in it. It's like

805
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: Dallas TV show with Jail And I would imagine none

806
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: of this shocked you because you kind of grew up

807
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: with I mean, the nineties weren't exactly calm, right, absolutely correct. Yeah,

808
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: so I don't think we were calm compared to what

809
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah yeah. So what was it like being

810
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: there playing with Tera Owens? You know what it was?

811
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: It was one of those journeys in times in my

812
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: career where he actually helped me become a better player,

813
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: to better receiver, you know, because he pushed me to

814
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: do extra things to prepare for the game, you know,

815
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: just as far as within practice and with what I

816
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: started eating. So it was it was the time that

817
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: he made my game step up because I was like, Okay,

818
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: he's not gonna come down to my level. I gotta

819
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: raise my bar to try to get up there, you know.

820
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: And he told me he learned from the best to

821
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: ever played. He learned from Jai right, So he was

822
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: like he was doing it like that. I was gonna

823
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: do it like that. Sounds like, okay, I'm gonna do

824
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: it like you then okay. Yeah. So it worked out.

825
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: Set for the Tights, I wouldn't finish wasn't my thing.

826
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: And I imagine you were very happy when he got

827
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: the call for the Hall of Fame. I was. I

828
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: was very very happy. Uh. It's one of those things

829
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I wish he would have went. Yeah. You know, I

830
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of not fully understood his point of view. Uh,

831
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: but you know, we talked about it, and he was like,

832
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: you're not changing my mind. I was like, all right, well,

833
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: I said my piece. You know, I'm just I'm just saying, dude,

834
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, and that's like, you know, what would your

835
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: your grandmother want you to do? He was like, I

836
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: thought about that, and I prayed on that, and I

837
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: think she would want me to stand on my own

838
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: two feet. So I was like, what there you go? Then, dude,

839
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta bid at left. So what do

840
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: you think this Cowboys team is gonna do the rest

841
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: of the year. I think they gotta finish out strong.

842
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm predicting the eleven and five. That's what I had

843
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, eleven and five. They

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Speaker 1: gotta went out to get there, though he went out

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Speaker 1: ten or six. So one of us is going to

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Speaker 1: be right, you think so, unless they've crater down the

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Speaker 1: stretch here. But I don't think they will. I don't

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Speaker 1: think like that the way they've been playing here lately. Patrick.

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Speaker 1: It's been great having you. Yes, I appreciate thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me here, Glad. I ran into you in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: exactly right. Man, you were looking lost on the side

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Speaker 1: of that. Let it helps you. Micky, do you know

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Speaker 1: who we have next? I do not, Bill, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: we're taking suggestions. You call, anybody want to be the guest.

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Speaker 1: We might go, all right, and for Danny Serek a

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Speaker 1: great job, Danny Patrick. We appreciate you joining us for

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Speaker 1: expect no line, Bill Jones, and we will be here

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Speaker 1: with somebody next week on the Cowboys Legend Show. At

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Speaker 1: the start