Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arms Strong and Gatti and he Armstrong and Hetty.
Speaker 3: The talks between Iran and the United States continue to
Speaker 3: go back and forth. At the latest juncture here, it's
Speaker 3: our understanding that the US side has sent the proposal
Speaker 3: between the two countries back to Iran for a couple
Speaker 3: of adjustments that are presently waiting for a response.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we are on the negotiations of just
Speaker 2: I've got a little analysis on that coming up, which
Speaker 2: is interesting. Let's let Robert Sherman bring us up to
Speaker 2: speed what happened over the weekend of News Nation.
Speaker 3: Well, this is now the third time in the last
Speaker 3: week that we have seen American forces carried out what
Speaker 3: they described as self defense strikes on Iran, hitting launch facilities,
Speaker 3: radar facilities in side of Iran itself. You may mention
Speaker 3: of the fact that an American drone was shot down
Speaker 3: over international waters. That is what partially sparked all of
Speaker 3: this back and forth that you've seen between Iran and
Speaker 3: the United States.
Speaker 2: Just moments ago, Central Command.
Speaker 3: Clarified Iran went so far as to fire two ballistic
Speaker 3: missiles at Kuwait, allegedly towards some of the American bases
Speaker 3: that are in that country. There that has received widespread
Speaker 3: condemnation from Gulf states around the region here as well.
Speaker 2: Whooped to do condemnation. It's amazing how much Iran counts
Speaker 2: on people shooting down their missiles. Interesting thought, I.
Speaker 1: Think, because they don't actually want to hit Tel Aviv,
Speaker 1: I assume, or one of our.
Speaker 4: Bases, because do you think they do well? They hurt
Speaker 4: and killed quite a number of our folks already, number
Speaker 4: being like seven, not seventy or seven.
Speaker 2: Isn't it okay? Fine? But it's not hundreds like it
Speaker 2: could be if a ballistic missile hits one of these
Speaker 2: big bases or hits Tel Aviv. Whenever they shoot missiles that.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would love to know if they, like, do they
Speaker 2: hope they get through in it? Tovie, Israel would just
Speaker 2: completely obliterate Terran I think if that happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I agree with you. I
Speaker 4: think they do as much damage as they can. They're
Speaker 4: just not terribly good at it. We've seen their defensive capabilities,
Speaker 4: their defense are just woeful. The Russian and Chinese systems
Speaker 4: are just terrible. It would make sense that their offensive
Speaker 4: capabilities aren't great either. But yeah, they've inflicted enormous damage.
Speaker 4: They've killed again a modest number of our people, but
Speaker 4: too many. And their leadership is waiting for the apocalypse
Speaker 4: where uh, oh.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll take the throner over the heck that work.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. So. John Bolton was Trump's National
Speaker 2: Security advisor. He's the hawkeyest Iran hawk that exists on
Speaker 2: planet Earth. Perhaps him, here's him talking about that whole situation.
Speaker 5: Well, it's a very important base that We've got a
Speaker 5: lot of important bases in the region. And I think
Speaker 5: this is an indication that Iran is trying to intimidate
Speaker 5: the US. They're trying to press what they see as
Speaker 5: their advantage with Trump desperately wanting to cease fire, to
Speaker 5: open the straight or four moves and hopefully bring the
Speaker 5: price of gasoline at the pump in the US down.
Speaker 5: I think that shortsighted strategically, but I think that's really
Speaker 5: what's uppermost on Trump's mind, and I think that's what
Speaker 5: the Iranians are pushing on.
Speaker 2: That's after John Bolton said he thinks the ceasefire was
Speaker 2: a horrible mistake, which I would agree. But so here's
Speaker 2: one of the most respected international journalists in the world,
Speaker 2: David Sanger of the New York Times, well sourced saying
Speaker 2: the same thing Joe has been saying four weeks. And
Speaker 2: Joe is not well sourced. David Sanger, are sucking to
Speaker 2: all the experts in Iran and in the United States
Speaker 2: and all the think tanks, and he came up with
Speaker 2: the same thing you thought came up with off the
Speaker 2: top of his head, off the top.
Speaker 4: Well endowed, but not well sourced. That's my reputation.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, what happened over the weekend that made you
Speaker 2: need to slip that in.
Speaker 4: I don't care anymore. I've become completely cynical. I'm a nihilist.
Speaker 2: The Iranians sends mister Trump's deep reluctance, let me start again.
Speaker 2: We're all tracking with you. The Iranians sends mister Trump's
Speaker 2: deep reluctance to start combat operations that are deeply unpopular
Speaker 2: in the United States, and most Iran experts say they
Speaker 2: expect Terran to try to stretch the negotiations for months
Speaker 2: or years, as they have with past administrations. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what you've been saying for weeks. They're just going
Speaker 2: to drag this out. So all this back and forth
Speaker 2: where they send something completely ridiculous US reparations and we
Speaker 2: get to own the straight Obviously that's a non starter.
Speaker 2: So Trump doodles on it. Then no to this, no
Speaker 2: to this, how about this, sends it back. They wait
Speaker 2: a week, they scribble something else. We get to keep
Speaker 2: our nuclear weapons. That's sent it back.
Speaker 1: I mean, you drag this out forever until Trump's out
Speaker 1: of office, and then there's.
Speaker 4: A Democrat and who lets you get a nuclear weapon? Probably,
Speaker 4: and please everybody step acting surprise.
Speaker 2: That's what they do. It's what they always do.
Speaker 4: Ian Bremmer, for instance, expected outcome of US around agreement
Speaker 4: one straight opens and blockade dropped immediately. Two ceasefire extended
Speaker 4: for sixty days. Three Cutter transfer six billion of Iranian
Speaker 4: assets to Iran. The United States says has nothing to
Speaker 4: do with that transfer.
Speaker 2: Well, it was a coincidence.
Speaker 4: Four US and Iran continue to restart negotiating nuclear issues,
Speaker 4: probably keep extending the deadline with little progress, and five
Speaker 4: no meaningful expansion of Abraham records.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just yeah, do me a favor.
Speaker 4: I want to hear if John Bolton's thinking squares with
Speaker 4: my own, let's hear sixty five Michael.
Speaker 5: I think the ceasefire itself has been a mistake. I
Speaker 5: think it's a gift to Iran. How close the parties
Speaker 5: actually are to some kind of extended ceasefire remains to
Speaker 5: be saved. We've been hearing for day after day after
Speaker 5: day that it's very close, and maybe it will be today,
Speaker 5: who knows, But I think it's what's really questionable is
Speaker 5: how much Iran and the US have actually agreed on.
Speaker 5: You can write words down on a piece of paper,
Speaker 5: but what really matters is do the parties have a
Speaker 5: meeting of the minds? Do they understand what they've agreed on?
Speaker 5: And that is a lot less clear.
Speaker 4: So what I was going to say in that absolutely
Speaker 4: supports that is the reason given for the ceasefire is
Speaker 4: all right, we've pounded them enough, We're going to turn
Speaker 4: down the heat now and come to a diplomatic solution. Well,
Speaker 4: clearly you did not turn up the heat enough. If
Speaker 4: they don't feel motivated to come to an agreement, and
Speaker 4: they're clearly not This is just classic Iranian you know,
Speaker 4: delay in obfuscation.
Speaker 2: It's time to turn up the heat again. I think
Speaker 2: they feel the opposite. I think they feel we took
Speaker 2: your best shot and we're still standing, so bring it again.
Speaker 4: This is a regime that is willing to machine gun
Speaker 4: forty two thousand of their own citizens down, and some
Speaker 4: of their youngest, best and brightest in the streets. They're
Speaker 4: not going to blanch at doing terrible damage or killing
Speaker 4: civilians obviously, or doing terrible damage to the infrastructure. They're like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, these guys don't they're not fighters at all.
Speaker 2: They waded in through.
Speaker 4: A couple of punches and said, hey, everybody, calmed down,
Speaker 4: we're freaking killers. Trump doesn't have it. He doesn't have
Speaker 4: the guts, that's what they're thinking.
Speaker 2: So Trump truthed out last night after midnight, Iran really
Speaker 2: wants to make a deal, and it'll be a good
Speaker 2: one for the USA and those that are with us.
Speaker 2: But don't the Democrats and various seemingly unpatriotic Republicans understand
Speaker 2: that it is much tougher for me to properly do
Speaker 2: my job and negotiate when political hacks keep negatively chirping
Speaker 2: at levels never seen before, over and over again, that
Speaker 2: I should move faster or move slower, or go to
Speaker 2: war or not go to war or whatever. Just sit
Speaker 2: back and relax and law work out well in the end.
Speaker 2: It always does. Does it always work out well in
Speaker 2: the end? No, No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what you're doing. You're one of those
Speaker 1: hacks chirping all the presidents trying to do his job.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, hacking, chirp and chirping and hacking. Oh,
Speaker 2: we'll see all right, well at home.
Speaker 1: At some point, it's possible that behind the scenes, Marco
Speaker 1: and Jared and whoever else are, you know, working on
Speaker 1: a deal and all of a sudden, they're all going
Speaker 1: to come forward to a microphone and say we have
Speaker 1: a deal and it's gonna have all kinds of complexities
Speaker 1: in it that we haven't heard.
Speaker 2: About in the press and all that sort of stuff
Speaker 2: because they were doing behind the scenes. It's possible. Sure,
Speaker 2: it's also possible that, like Bolton said, and you've been
Speaker 2: saying that, there's like nothing anybody's agreed on. None of
Speaker 2: the major stuff is even close I.
Speaker 4: Mean not even close agreed in principle to talk about
Speaker 4: it later, which is a win for a RAN. What
Speaker 4: you said about it's possible behind the scenes, blah blah blah,
Speaker 4: these things take go out. But I think you've said
Speaker 4: that every day now for like five weeks. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: it's been true every single day. But at some point
Speaker 4: you start to think, Yeah, on the other hand, maybe
Speaker 4: I'm not getting a pony for Christmas. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: just and every day that goes by is better for
Speaker 4: a RAN, right and worse for us. Don't think it, don't.
Speaker 2: Doesn't our position get better and ours get worse day
Speaker 2: by day by day? Yeah? Uh huh yeah uh.
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Speaker 2: Finally, briefly from me on the politics of this whole thing,
Speaker 2: and this is this is cynical, and this is not
Speaker 2: good news. But I think it's true. I don't think
Speaker 2: Trump will be that damaged by a bad deal, as
Speaker 2: a lot of the pundits think.
Speaker 1: I don't think people care enough. People should care more.
Speaker 1: But I think the war ends and then gas starts
Speaker 1: to drop back down, and historians and.
Speaker 2: Some cable news shows paneled, why did we get out
Speaker 2: of this? It was a mistake, blab bla. Most people aren't.
Speaker 1: They didn't pay attention to the beginning, they haven't paid
Speaker 1: attention to in the middle, and they are gonna pay attention.
Speaker 2: To the end.
Speaker 1: It's just it's over, and it went away, and it's
Speaker 1: not a problem, and gas has gone back down.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to damage him that much.
Speaker 4: What's the opposite of something coming back to bite me
Speaker 4: in the ass? Because I think the Trump administration did
Speaker 4: a terrible The President himself did a terrible job of
Speaker 4: explaining the critical need of stopping Around's nuclear program. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's brought it up plenty of times, but the messaging
Speaker 4: just has not been effective. But having said that, if
Speaker 4: you come to a deal that doesn't really deal with
Speaker 4: that in the end, Again, what's the opposite of something
Speaker 4: coming back to bite you in the ass. You just
Speaker 4: you didn't turn loose a dog at all.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you mean. You didn't really make
Speaker 2: the case to the American people while it's why it's important.
Speaker 2: So then when I fail at it, right, there's no repercussions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these are odd times. I actually think that's what's going
Speaker 2: to happen. Okay, we got more on the white stay here.
Speaker 2: Bill Maher on Friday and his show, asking the question
Speaker 2: why is Mississippi beating California in public schools? Why is
Speaker 2: Texas meeting California when it comes to solar saying that's
Speaker 2: not the stereotype, but it's the truth. So we'll get
Speaker 2: to that a little bit later.
Speaker 4: You know, I was all excited to lead this discussion.
Speaker 4: With the name of the contest, I think it's Operation
Speaker 4: Drone Dominance or something like that. Speaking of the military
Speaker 4: in Iran and all sorts of conflicts including Ukraine and
Speaker 4: the coming you know era of drones in AirLand and
Speaker 4: sea warfare. The Pentagon, to their credit, is holding a
Speaker 4: giant contest among drone design and makers. Yeah, drone Dominance,
Speaker 4: that's what they're calling it. And it is And again
Speaker 4: I think this is really cool. Some of The leading
Speaker 4: players are like a twenty three year old former drone
Speaker 4: racing world champion, a company that uses drones to analyze
Speaker 4: golf course grass, another link to a firm that hosts
Speaker 4: aera light shows, and the Pentagon has said we're gonna
Speaker 4: do about a billion dollars worth of defense contracts on drones.
Speaker 2: We're gonna buy hundreds of thousands of them.
Speaker 4: Show us your best stuff, and it is really motivated
Speaker 4: an intense, you know, contest, but just effort by all
Speaker 4: of these innovative young companies to show what they can
Speaker 4: do and to move us forward in the absolutely critical
Speaker 4: game of figuring out.
Speaker 2: How we're gonna use these things. Wow, that's really pretty cool,
Speaker 2: you know. Pete Hegseeth.
Speaker 4: He's an interesting character, and there's some aspects of his
Speaker 4: act I don't love. But boy, in terms of standing
Speaker 4: up for the actual war fighters and being willing to
Speaker 4: adapt and break out of the old mold and the
Speaker 4: old way of doing these things, I give them an
Speaker 4: a plus on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm glad we're looking at the drone thing
Speaker 2: now because from everything I read, China's way ahead of us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially in terms of manufacturing capacity. I mean, they
Speaker 4: can produce just exponentially more than we can at this point.
Speaker 4: And boy, the more I talk to people who are
Speaker 4: involved in this field, the more I understand how intense
Speaker 4: and important the whole thing is. Anyway, I just wanted
Speaker 4: to throw that in another very short story.
Speaker 2: This is way way worse than it sounds.
Speaker 4: The state of New York lawmakers are pushing for child
Speaker 4: tax credits, but not child tax credits, dog and cat
Speaker 4: tax credits, a non refundable tax credit for pet owners. Well,
Speaker 4: they might do it refundable, which means you get it
Speaker 4: even if you don't pay taxes, which is verbal trickery.
Speaker 4: If you have a dog or a cat, you can
Speaker 4: get a tax credit regardless of your wealth, and child's
Speaker 4: tax credits are are capped by income. Taxpayers will give
Speaker 4: you tax credits because you have a dog to help
Speaker 4: take care of Fido.
Speaker 2: So I, currently a non dog owner, am giving some
Speaker 2: of my tax money to other people who decided to
Speaker 2: have a dog. Explain that to me. Explain justify that
Speaker 2: one to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can give you the defacto answer, but can
Speaker 4: give me a bonehead I'm supposed to buy an answer
Speaker 4: on why I should give some of my tax money
Speaker 4: to somebody who decided they want a cat.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: I'll have to work hard to adopt the verbiage of
Speaker 4: the people who are in favor of this. But pets
Speaker 4: are a part of our family. They've been demonstrated to
Speaker 4: aid in health and longevity, and people really care about
Speaker 4: their pets. And with affordability being as bad as it
Speaker 4: is these days, people need help. They need help with
Speaker 4: their expensive veterinary bills. So you know, that's the best
Speaker 4: effort I can come up with the de facto answer.
Speaker 4: The real answer is no, we're going to promise people
Speaker 4: tax money so they vote for us.
Speaker 2: It's a new excuse. Well three distribution. Yeah, I really
Speaker 2: like riding a bike. Exercise is important. It leads to
Speaker 2: longevity and better health, health outcomes. Pay for my bike
Speaker 2: right right, absolutely.
Speaker 4: But then once people are getting this, then you can
Speaker 4: say the Republicans want to yank away the money you
Speaker 4: need to care for your pets. Republicans don't care if
Speaker 4: your pets live or die.
Speaker 2: Wow, a teleocrat, this might be the thing that gets
Speaker 2: me to move to a different country when I'm old. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to have to give tax money to
Speaker 2: people who want to have a dog or a cat,
Speaker 2: so they can have a dog or a cat. What
Speaker 2: the frigg is going on here?
Speaker 4: Which is why I said this is even this is
Speaker 4: worse than it sounds because it feels to me it's
Speaker 4: crossing some sort of it is right, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's utterly indefensible. It's just a naked saying we will
Speaker 4: give you money for the reason doesn't really matter. We're
Speaker 4: just gonna give you money if you keep voting for us.
Speaker 4: The Turtle Coalition of America is going to say, wait
Speaker 4: a minute, dogs and cats, what are you a shellist
Speaker 4: or you know whatever?
Speaker 2: Your your snake.
Speaker 4: Guy's going to be like that is so unfair, right,
Speaker 4: I demand my subsidy.
Speaker 2: I've got a friend who's got a parrot. They live
Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty years. What who's going to
Speaker 2: take care of this parrot when it's gone? Give you know,
Speaker 2: vote now on measure.
Speaker 4: P Yeah, exactly, Polly want a handout? Holly want a handout.
Speaker 4: I'm Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6: Graham and I have a great marriage. Being married is hard.
Speaker 6: Being newly married is hard. Being newly married and going
Speaker 6: through infertility is hard. Being newly married going through infertility
Speaker 6: and a Senate campaign is is hard.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I have the right words
Speaker 2: to describe.
Speaker 6: We've been going through.
Speaker 2: But our marriage counselor helps.
Speaker 6: No marriage is perfect.
Speaker 4: That is Amy Gertner, the wife of Graham Platner. Graham Plattner,
Speaker 4: who's really been quite the topic of discussion in politics
Speaker 4: these days. He is the lobsterman, Yeah, running four or
Speaker 4: the Senate in Maine. He's that rugged looking veteran fellow
Speaker 4: calls himself an oyster farmer, although his only client is
Speaker 4: his mom's restaurant, and he was a bit of a
Speaker 4: expensive boarding school kid who claims he's a tough and
Speaker 4: working class. He's ruggedly handsome, which I think is the
Speaker 4: key to like everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a another long line of seems to
Speaker 2: be phony working class dudes trying to get that vote. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He also sported a Totin Kulp tattoo, the death's head
Speaker 4: tattoo frequently used by the SS and World War two Nazis.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: You know, young guy combat veteran gets an ill advised
Speaker 4: tattoo because he thought it was just hard ass or
Speaker 4: as opposed to Nazi imagery.
Speaker 2: I give him a pass on that. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: that worried about that.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, I think he's a phony and
Speaker 4: he's half a Marxist. He's got quite the history of
Speaker 4: bad decisions, including what we're talking about here while he
Speaker 4: was married, and he's just been married to young Amy,
Speaker 4: who we heard from since twenty twenty three, and evidently
Speaker 4: he was a serial sexter in the last couple of
Speaker 4: years while they've been married. And I don't want to
Speaker 4: give way too much for the next from the next
Speaker 4: couple of clips we're going to play, but so you've
Speaker 4: got that problem. You got the fact that several years
Speaker 4: ago he called rural maners racists and idiots and the
Speaker 4: rest of it, and they got to vote for him.
Speaker 4: He's made several incredibly nasty comments about Jewish folks, and
Speaker 4: he's just he strikes me as a wackadoo candidate that
Speaker 4: wasn't vetted well enough.
Speaker 2: So anti Semitism is a problem. Being a socialist as
Speaker 2: a problem unless I hear something specific, and I think
Speaker 2: the specifics are going to come out this week. On
Speaker 2: the sexting thing that's between you and your wife, she's
Speaker 2: okay with it. Whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's part of a pattern to see he
Speaker 4: you know, he tweeted all sorts of terrible things about
Speaker 4: maners and women, you know how they auto avoid sexual assault,
Speaker 4: crude posts about sex workers, masturbation, trying to discredit fellow
Speaker 4: combat veterans, blah blah blah. And he's explained to all
Speaker 4: of that that well, I had PTSD and that the
Speaker 4: all the sexting women was really bad decisions. But I've
Speaker 4: undergone counseling, and he is doing counseling. She is doing
Speaker 4: individual counseling. They're doing marital counseling together, as we're about
Speaker 4: to hear. So when you describe all of that, does
Speaker 4: that sound like a US senator to you? Somebody who
Speaker 4: makes bad decisions, is disturbed as sexual compulsions, has Nazi
Speaker 4: tattoos that are probably explainable, away, has insulted the voters
Speaker 4: over and over again, said misogynist things about women by
Speaker 4: the standards of his own party. It's funny how that's
Speaker 4: not an issue now mashtag me too. It just all
Speaker 4: adds up to what the hell is this guy or
Speaker 4: candidate for?
Speaker 2: Well, all sexting's not the same either. If he had
Speaker 2: an affair or affairs, and they were sexting over it,
Speaker 2: and that's one thing. And then that's I really think
Speaker 2: that's in the realm of between him and his wife whatever.
Speaker 2: She's put up with it or got over it or something.
Speaker 2: But if he is sending you know, remember the famous
Speaker 2: Brett Farr picture where he's sitting there naked in his
Speaker 2: crocs and he just sent it to some reporter, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you do something like that, that's a completely different thing.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what the nature of this sexting is,
Speaker 2: but I think we're gonna know this week.
Speaker 4: There is an allegation that he calls his unit dere feurer.
Speaker 4: I have not been able to substantiate that.
Speaker 2: I saw all kinds of screen captures over the weekend
Speaker 2: of texting conversation. It turned out to be AI general,
Speaker 2: thank you AI. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Indeed, here is the candidate himself setting us straight on
Speaker 4: what we ought to worry about and what we ought not.
Speaker 7: It's no surprise to me that the establishment media outlets
Speaker 7: are just going to run gossip instead of wanting to
Speaker 7: talk about the things that actually matter in this race,
Speaker 7: which are the material realities that the maners are working with.
Speaker 7: These people are going to try to make this race
Speaker 7: about anything but what it's supposed to be about, which
Speaker 7: is policy. They never want to talk about policy. Amy
Speaker 7: and I have a very loving and very happy marriage.
Speaker 7: They would very much like to try to rip that apart.
Speaker 7: We're going to come after us in every awful way
Speaker 7: that they possibly can.
Speaker 2: And I, in case you surely you know this one,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't. I shouldn't say that. That's a mean
Speaker 2: thing to say, because you don't need to follow politics
Speaker 2: at any certain level. The Senate is basically tied, and
Speaker 2: whoever controls the Senate, that's a really big deal. So
Speaker 2: one Senate seat is huge. It's not like these various
Speaker 2: House seats. A one Senate seat could easily be the
Speaker 2: difference between Republicans controller or Democrats control it, whether get
Speaker 2: he gives your Supreme Court justice through or whether you
Speaker 2: don't that sort of thing. And he's trying to take
Speaker 2: away a Republican Senate seat there in Maine. So one
Speaker 2: more point on This guy was written by Teddy Daniels
Speaker 2: who is a was he marine or.
Speaker 4: He was terribly injured in a firefight, received the Purple
Speaker 4: Heart Taliban ambush and Afghanistan. He was one of a
Speaker 4: couple of people, including Navy seal Chris Kyle, that this
Speaker 4: Platner disparaged online in the last couple of years, and
Speaker 4: he talks about what a phony Platner is as a
Speaker 4: working class guy. I was the son of a brick
Speaker 4: mason father and a woman and a mother who worked
Speaker 4: in a textile mill. My father, who died of cancer
Speaker 4: several years ago, would have had a field day with
Speaker 4: mister Plattner.
Speaker 2: He was always talking about this.
Speaker 4: Spoiled rich kid politician who came out to job sites
Speaker 4: to get votes and take pictures. Dad would comment on
Speaker 4: the work boots they wore, boots that never saw a
Speaker 4: day of work in their Carhart jackets which still had
Speaker 4: creases from being on the shelf at the tractor's supply
Speaker 4: company store, flannel shirt and all Graham Planter's Tim Walls
Speaker 4: on steroids an entitled brat who campaigns with socialist Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 4: A real man by the lights of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4: He presents himself as relatable to working class Americans, but
Speaker 4: in reality he's a typical elitist who believes blue collar,
Speaker 4: hardworking assault of the earth, rural Americans are stupid and racist.
Speaker 4: I couldn't care less about the comments he made about me,
Speaker 4: but they are a reflection of his character. I never
Speaker 4: thought i'd see the day when Democrats would even consider
Speaker 4: backing a candidate like this.
Speaker 2: Wow ye yeah, see, I care about that stuff more
Speaker 2: than the what the him and his wife sexting stuff.
Speaker 2: If you're a freaking socialist, anti Semite, that should be known.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I don't agree with you entirely
Speaker 4: on the sexting thing. He's sexting at least half a
Speaker 4: dozen women in the early years of his marriage. That
Speaker 4: strikes it. M that's just too much. You know, each
Speaker 4: voter should decide for themselves.
Speaker 2: I thought the nation had moved past with Trump and
Speaker 2: others of caring about people what they're doing with chicks.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, good, lord the hole Donald Trump
Speaker 2: walk him up and grab them by the you who
Speaker 2: uh while his wife was pregnant fingy Yeah all right,
Speaker 2: all right, so you wanted Hillary? All right? Moving on.
Speaker 1: Hillary's Hillary is a bad example because she bill obviously
Speaker 1: running around their whole marriage.
Speaker 4: And then she assassinated the character of any woman who
Speaker 4: would complain about his sexuals.
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Speaker 2: I guess what bothers me is we put everything into
Speaker 2: like a blender of bad things and treat them all equally.
Speaker 1: I think being a freaking socialist is a really really
Speaker 1: big freaking deal. I think being an anti Semite is
Speaker 1: a really really really big deal, and then to just
Speaker 1: equate that with these sexted women seems nuts to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you're right. It shouldn't be at the
Speaker 4: same point in the scale. I think you can all
Speaker 4: get into your mix of what do you want to
Speaker 4: vote for? Who do you want to vote for?
Speaker 2: But no, yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 4: I mean, being a socialist, I don't care if you're
Speaker 4: like married to your college sweetheart and you volunteer your height.
Speaker 2: You know, there's.
Speaker 4: The handicapped children's organization. Socialism will ruin the country, It'll
Speaker 4: bankrupt the country, it'll ruin lives. Yeah, go to hell.
Speaker 2: But I do think the sects are going to come
Speaker 2: out this week. So Wall Street Journal, the big article
Speaker 2: over the weekend was about the sex thing, but they
Speaker 2: didn't have the actual I think they have them, but
Speaker 2: they didn't release them. They will come out because this
Speaker 2: stuff always comes out.
Speaker 4: Final note for me. Then we'll move on from this.
Speaker 4: AOC is clearly running for president. She's making all the moves,
Speaker 4: all the moves. She's good at what at doing what
Speaker 4: she does. She will be laughed out of a presidential race,
Speaker 4: laughed at.
Speaker 2: You don't think she could get that. You think she's
Speaker 2: a non starter for getting the nomination? Yes? Really?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You have more faith and the Democratic A primary voter
Speaker 2: than I do.
Speaker 4: Well, if I improved wrong, I will be defying, So
Speaker 4: that would be fine.
Speaker 2: I don't think she couldn't get elected president, but I
Speaker 2: think she could get the nomination. Oh. I had one
Speaker 2: other thing to say, But oh so, Mark Alprin has
Speaker 2: been writing for several days. There are many more shoes
Speaker 2: to drop on the grand plantinir thing. They will come out.
Speaker 2: There's apple research he's seen that will come out. That's
Speaker 2: go to be quite exciting to talk about. So oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and one more thing.
Speaker 4: We didn't run the clip, but Graham Platner said the
Speaker 4: Washington or the Journal in the New York Times rand
Speaker 4: stories without any evidence. I mean this journalistic malpractice to
Speaker 4: which they're going to apply. Oh, you want to see
Speaker 4: the evidence?
Speaker 2: Way to dare this? It even't dare them to release
Speaker 2: the text? Well, that's awesome. Why is Mississippi and Texas
Speaker 2: beaten California a couple of their core issues? Bill Maher
Speaker 2: asked that question Friday night. It's pretty interesting. Stay here.
Speaker 8: We need democratic leaders in California who are willing to
Speaker 8: say no to their friends.
Speaker 2: M That would be the unions.
Speaker 8: The bureaucrats, the lawyers, the consultants, the regulators, and all
Speaker 8: the special interest friends who make living in this state
Speaker 8: such a frustrating, maddening experience. It's why the railroads don't
Speaker 8: get built, the potholes don't get filled, the homeless don't
Speaker 8: get housed, the kids don't learn.
Speaker 2: Wow, but he's an old man.
Speaker 1: Bill Maher's like pushing eighty years old, and he's you know,
Speaker 1: he built up this reputation where he got this show
Speaker 1: on HBO. Otherwise, where's the voice saying that when he's
Speaker 1: gone and will anything have changed by then?
Speaker 2: That's Bill Maher from his Friday night HBO show. You
Speaker 2: want to hear more of that rant? I do desperately?
Speaker 8: Did you know that a black fourth grader in Mississippi
Speaker 8: is two and a half times as likely to be
Speaker 8: proficient in math and reading as one in California. Mississippi
Speaker 8: is kicking our ass in education and for way less money.
Speaker 8: We're thirty seventh in fourth grade reading, they're ninth. Texas
Speaker 8: is kicking our ass in green energy. The average time
Speaker 8: to get solar panels connected there was three to four months,
Speaker 8: about a thousand days faster than it took me. Remember
Speaker 8: when I was trying to get my solar hooked up.
Speaker 8: It would have been quicker to build a windmill. Texas
Speaker 8: has passed California in solar and blows away California when
Speaker 8: it comes to wind and energy storage.
Speaker 2: How does a state with.
Speaker 8: No pro climate policies produce better climate results than a
Speaker 8: state where here, even though we have so much better
Speaker 8: stickers on our bumper pres world bumper stickers on our
Speaker 8: preus lease.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying about.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you why, because you're allowed to build there.
Speaker 8: Because every third person in Texas isn't someone whose job
Speaker 8: it is to make sure nothing gets done. Democrats, these
Speaker 8: are your issues, education, race, the environment. And I say
Speaker 8: this with love you're losing to the waffle house car
Speaker 8: on the lawn.
Speaker 2: States how that last phrase was somewhat disparaging. If colleges
Speaker 2: weren't all run by socialists, there should be a college
Speaker 2: class on that little rant they about why Mississippi can
Speaker 2: teach kids for less money in California can. And then
Speaker 2: the whole thing with the green energy in Texas, as
Speaker 2: he said, Texas doesn't even have any policies around green energy.
Speaker 2: We've got all these stickers on our.
Speaker 1: Priuses talking about how he cares so much about this,
Speaker 1: but we can't do it. They can.
Speaker 2: Then that's so maddening.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm always ranting about the unions that run
Speaker 4: California and the trial attorneys and a couple other groups,
Speaker 4: because they all do the same thing. They stand in
Speaker 4: the middle of the road and say, WHOA, you can't
Speaker 4: do that, you can't build that, you can't accomplish that
Speaker 4: unless you pay us off, and it makes it nearly
Speaker 4: impossible to do business or to build or produce or.
Speaker 2: Innovate, you know.
Speaker 4: And that bit about previous bumper stickers was brilliant too,
Speaker 4: because there's so much sloganeering and claiming virtue, but in
Speaker 4: terms of delivering on those promises.
Speaker 2: No, it's a miserable failure. So I am incredibly cynical.
Speaker 2: And that might just be something that happens as you
Speaker 2: get old, or at least it happens to some people,
Speaker 2: and it's happened to me. You tell me whether you
Speaker 2: think I'm right or not. I think it's more likely
Speaker 2: Texas becomes more like California than California becomes more like
Speaker 2: Texas over time, or more states become more like California
Speaker 2: than become like Texas.
Speaker 4: Uh. Yeah, I'm afraid you're right, just because of the
Speaker 4: it's so easy to sway the common man towards socialism
Speaker 4: because it sounds like a good deal. I'm going to
Speaker 4: get more and the damn rich people are going to
Speaker 4: give it to me.
Speaker 2: And the way bureaucracies work, and they're easy to grow.
Speaker 2: They're like weeds. They're easy to grow. They're almost impossible
Speaker 2: to get rid of. Yeah, and what has anybody ever
Speaker 2: gotten credit for that? Is it Buckley?
Speaker 4: Or who said that any organization that is not expressly
Speaker 4: conservative will become more progressive over time?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm very cynical about this. It's very disappointing,
Speaker 2: very disappointed.
Speaker 4: The sales pitch for leftism is so easy, and the
Speaker 4: dimmest wit can.
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, I want that.
Speaker 4: The sales pitch for conservatism takes a second, and it's
Speaker 4: so much better. But it takes a few seconds, and
Speaker 4: it takes a few brain sales to comprehend it.
Speaker 2: How much time will we got, Michael, Okay, I was
Speaker 2: gonna go on this little thing that annoyed me over
Speaker 2: the weekend. So my son, who's taking a public scho well,
Speaker 2: he's using the book that public schools use for history,
Speaker 2: eighth grade history learned about child labor exploitation in the
Speaker 2: early twentieth century in the United States. Okay, fine, you
Speaker 2: get to pitch it as the or we're gonna hide
Speaker 2: this bad part of our history. Here's the problem. I'll
Speaker 2: bet you again a shiny new Trump two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty dollars bill that neither one of my kids in
Speaker 2: public school would ever get the spiel about how more
Speaker 2: people have been lifted out of poverty by the free
Speaker 2: market than any other economic system in the history of
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they never get that spiel. I never
Speaker 1: got that spiel. I never got that spiel. In our day,
Speaker 1: it was just assumed.
Speaker 2: But anyway, well, as we've learned recently, you can't assume
Speaker 2: these things. You have to teach it over and over again.
Speaker 2: But you will get the child labor law. It had
Speaker 2: to come about because child labor was exploited in factories
Speaker 2: or whatever. Of course, you get the downside of the
Speaker 2: free market. Will anybody pitch the upside? No, they won't.
Speaker 2: And that sort of stuff makes me insane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And not only was child labor ubiquitous all
Speaker 4: over the world at the time, it's going on right now.
Speaker 4: If you hate, if you're really concerned about that, it's
Speaker 4: happening right now, and you're wearing the fruits of their
Speaker 4: labor on your feet.
Speaker 2: Promptly, no need to teach that tiny little portion of
Speaker 2: the history of capitol unless you're going you've spent all
Speaker 2: the time you need to spend on how great the
Speaker 2: free market is. Once you've gotten through.
Speaker 1: All that time, you still got time left, then you
Speaker 1: could get to the negative part.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, sure it ought to be.
Speaker 4: This is an incredible system where people exchange goods and
Speaker 4: services and lift everybody out of poverty. Here are some
Speaker 4: of the pitfalls to look out for. Though present it
Speaker 4: like that, I have no problem with it.
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