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Speaker 1: There's been an update in the Bob Christian case we

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Speaker 1: covered last season and I have all the details, But first,

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Speaker 1: if you missed it, here's a quick recap. Bob Christian

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Speaker 1: was an eighteen year old bowhunter from Wisconsin. On the

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Speaker 1: eve of the opening day of deer season in nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy seven, Bob drove from his home in Madison to

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Speaker 1: his buddy's house in Barriboo, or at least he was

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Speaker 1: supposed to. When he didn't show up, his family, friends,

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Speaker 1: and local law enforcement launched a search effort to try

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Speaker 1: to find him, but all they really found were more questions.

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Speaker 1: His car had been abandoned and stripped of its wheels

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Speaker 1: and tires. A nun who lived nearby said her home

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Speaker 1: had been burglarized, and a friend of that nun said

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Speaker 1: she talked to a man driving Bob's car who said

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Speaker 1: he was looking for his friend. In some tellings of

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Speaker 1: this encounter, he said his friend's name was Bob. Authorities

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Speaker 1: found the hub caps from Bob's car at a nearby cory,

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Speaker 1: and another witness said he saw a car with stacked

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Speaker 1: headlights parked next to Bob's car the night he went missing,

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Speaker 1: but none of these clues led them to the missing teenager,

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Speaker 1: and the case went icebox cold until just a few

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Speaker 1: years ago Detective Tyler Poyton with the Sauk County Sheriff's

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Speaker 1: Office reopened the investigation, and he made a startling and

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Speaker 1: disturbing discovery. John Wayne Gacy, the famous Chicago Land serial killer,

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Speaker 1: had worked near bear Aboo just a few months before

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Speaker 1: Bob went missing.

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Speaker 2: We had information that he had been in our County

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Speaker 2: doing pharmacy for model jobs. Basically, his trade was he

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Speaker 2: would go around to pharmacies and update them to more

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Speaker 2: modern look. And a city in our county Reidsburg, which

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Speaker 2: is about twenty minutes from Barboo. They had had him

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Speaker 2: at their pharmacy in Reedsburg in July of seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: Found a news article that he was in Boston, which

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Speaker 2: is to the next county north of US, about forty

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes from barbou doing a pharmacy job there.

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Speaker 1: If a serial killer who targeted young men was in

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Speaker 1: the area around the same time a young man inexplicably

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Speaker 1: went missing, it made sense to follow that lead as

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Speaker 1: far as it went. Several of Gaysey's victims found in

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Speaker 1: the basement of a Chicago home have yet to be identified,

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Speaker 1: so Detective Point requested that the DNA from those victims

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Speaker 1: be compared to the DNA from Bob's relatives. When we

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Speaker 1: released this episode back in November, the detective was still

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Speaker 1: waiting for those results. Now we have them, so.

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Speaker 2: I requested they do a direct side by side comparison

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Speaker 2: with the remains from the Gaycy case and then Amy

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Speaker 2: and her father's profile, and unfortunately, they did not find

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Speaker 2: a match with the with the remains from Gacy's house

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Speaker 2: did not match the DNA profiles of the Christian family.

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Speaker 1: Of course, this doesn't mean that Gaysey wasn't involved in

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Speaker 1: Bob's disappearance. That's because to this day, no one knows

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Speaker 1: exactly how many people Gaysey killed. We also know that

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Speaker 1: he didn't bring all of his victims back to his home.

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Speaker 2: You know, he may have committed more down there that

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Speaker 2: they don't know about. He wasn't very forthcoming and cooperative

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Speaker 2: when they questioned him. And some of the Gaysey victims

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Speaker 2: I know were disposed of and the Displain's river in Illinois,

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Speaker 2: but they're also too is suspicion. He didn't give up

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Speaker 2: all of his victims, so I mean still a possibility again,

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Speaker 2: but not one of them that was in the house.

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Speaker 1: I asked Detective Point and whether Gasey could have abducted

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Speaker 1: Bob and then, like some of his other victims, dumped

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Speaker 1: him in one of the rivers or lakes in the area.

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Speaker 1: The detective said, it's possible, but without any specific information

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Speaker 1: about where to look, it would be incredibly difficult to

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Speaker 2: Devil's Lake was at the time and still is to

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Speaker 2: this day, a pretty heavily dove lake, lots of divers,

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Speaker 2: It's very clear water. Given its popularity as a tourist destination,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of divers out there. There was actually

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Speaker 2: a diving school that was out there for many years.

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Speaker 1: With so many people in the water, you'd think someone

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Speaker 1: would have found something by now if Bob was there.

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Speaker 1: But that's not the case. With the other water bodies

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Speaker 2: The Wisconsin River Lake Wisconsin very dark stained water. You know,

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Speaker 2: it'd be about like diving and coffee, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: You know, Detective Point is following other leads, which we'll

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Speaker 1: get to in a minute. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: a bit of a long shot. Gaysey wasn't known to

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Speaker 2: He didn't fit like the socio econonomic or the type

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Speaker 1: When Detective Point emailed me with this update, the first

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Speaker 1: person I wanted to talk to was Amy, Bob's sister.

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Speaker 1: In our previous interview, she told me she'd had some

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Speaker 1: I was curious to hear what she thought and felt

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Speaker 3: Well, some of it was relief that well, in a way,

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Speaker 3: at least he wasn't that a victim of that situation.

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Speaker 4: But then there's again the disappointment of.

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Speaker 3: Not knowing and the reality is that it doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: John Wayne Gacy wasn't involved. It just means it wasn't

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Speaker 3: one of the four victims that were found in Illinois.

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Speaker 3: So it doesn't really discount him completely, but it doesn't

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Speaker 3: point rate at him either. And you know, I just

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Speaker 3: feel like, Okay, it's back to square one again.

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Speaker 1: Gacy was never very forthcoming to law enforcement. But Amy

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Speaker 1: wonders if time would have eventually cracked that shell.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately, there's no way of confirming any of his

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Speaker 4: They don't know if he.

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Speaker 3: Had committed murders or not because he's he was executed,

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Speaker 3: so there's no way even if he was alive, would

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Speaker 4: Who knows.

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Speaker 3: But the bottom line is, since they executed him, there's

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Speaker 3: no way of ever getting any more information from him again.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not saying that he didn't deserve what

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Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't really disclosing much more. I don't

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Speaker 3: the beans more too, you know what I mean, maybe

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Speaker 3: after sitting in jail for how many people do we

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Speaker 3: have sitting in jail for how many years, you know,

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Speaker 3: with somebody like him, it might have been worth keeping

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Thinking about what happened to Bob at the hands of

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Speaker 1: a man like Gacy is extremely difficult, but finding Bob's

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Speaker 1: remains would have provided some closure and allowed Amy to

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Speaker 1: put her brother to rest.

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Speaker 3: If John Wayne Gacy did have something to do with it,

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Speaker 3: and he disposed of his body, there's probably never going

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Speaker 3: to be any kind of recovery.

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Speaker 4: That was the only thing.

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Speaker 3: If it had been one of the four, there was

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Speaker 3: a chance to get part of his remains put to rest,

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Speaker 3: so to speak. But again, my faith in God is

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Speaker 3: he took care of them, you know, I have to

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Speaker 1: As this case has attracted more and more attention, Amy

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Speaker 1: and her family have been forced to confront realities that

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I described it before as like

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Speaker 3: having a band aid ripped off. You know, you've had

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Speaker 3: have it ripped back again, not necessarily as raw as

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Speaker 3: it was before, but it opens it opens other.

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Speaker 4: Things back up again.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think my brother, Mike and I both

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Speaker 3: feel kind of like it's opened some of that up.

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Speaker 1: One of those band aids has been the fact that

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Speaker 1: the investigation into Bob's disappearance should have been handled much differently.

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Speaker 3: It's the shoulda Kulda would haves kind of back then,

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Speaker 3: and they didn't do the things that you know now

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Speaker 3: it would be just standard procedure. So it's a little

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Speaker 3: disappointing when you go back and know that certain people

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Speaker 3: They really thought he just took off. I think that's

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been all bad, though, Amy said, remembering Bob

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Speaker 1: has given her a different perspective on her other brother, Mike.

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Speaker 1: She's learned more about how difficult it was for Mike

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Speaker 1: when Bob went missing, and heard stories about Bob that

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Speaker 3: You know, Mike shared his experience of him getting his

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, he Mike.

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Speaker 3: Shared that with me, and it just it just re

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: He was somebody that I looked up to.

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Speaker 1: Time has made solving Bob's case exponentially more difficult, but

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Speaker 1: Detective point and told me he recently caught a break

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Speaker 1: since our last episode aired. He's made contact with someone

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Speaker 2: A person who we hadn't really known about before was

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Speaker 2: got more of a better picture, I would say, into

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Speaker 2: So I got a bunch of names, so people I'm

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Speaker 1: This person had been living in a house close to

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Speaker 1: Detective Point told me that several people had rented that

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Speaker 1: property over the years, but he was finally able to

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Speaker 2: They weren't living there very long, only a couple of

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Speaker 1: This person now lives out of state, so Detective Point

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Speaker 1: If you think you know something about Bob's disappearance, no

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Speaker 1: Bob disappeared on September sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven, just south

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Speaker 3: Mhmhm