1
00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,800
Speaker 1: Hello everyone, to episode one two of the Hammer Territory Podcast.

2
00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,520
Speaker 1: I am your host, Brad Roland, coming to you and

3
00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,480
Speaker 1: on Monday, even know, a little bit later than usual

4
00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,680
Speaker 1: to begin the week, but still there's a good reason

5
00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,400
Speaker 1: for that. Number one, I was traveling, and number two,

6
00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,040
Speaker 1: we have a special guest on today's podcast. If you've

7
00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,160
Speaker 1: been a longtime listener to our work in different platforms,

8
00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,640
Speaker 1: you will probably know this person. But it's been a while.

9
00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm drove by my old co host Eric Cole is here. Hello, Eric,

10
00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,120
Speaker 1: how are you?

11
00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,400
Speaker 2: Bradford? I have missed you. I mean it takes, you know,

12
00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,600
Speaker 2: like I need to be like the tenth string, you know,

13
00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,480
Speaker 2: podcast host at this point. But I am glad that

14
00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,640
Speaker 2: I finally made the cut. I've been begging years to

15
00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,440
Speaker 2: be back on the show, and Brad Year got on.

16
00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeow actual actual years. Don't don't check that, but yeah,

17
00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, obviously I'm thrilled to be back. You know,

18
00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't do the podcast thing nearly as much these

19
00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,600
Speaker 2: days other than very small appearances here and there. So

20
00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,039
Speaker 2: being able to talk Braves baseball like the good old

21
00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,120
Speaker 2: days from the Battery Power podcast feed and all that stuff.

22
00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,600
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit disappointed that I'm not here with Scott,

23
00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,920
Speaker 2: so I could make fun of him as well. But

24
00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, I'll just make up with it with you

25
00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,160
Speaker 2: know's doubling up on you.

26
00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,680
Speaker 1: We'll have to do it next time. Yeah, we'll just

27
00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,360
Speaker 1: I'll just let her know what's going on here. Eric

28
00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,000
Speaker 1: was for a long time was number one or two

29
00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,039
Speaker 1: on the other than me list of episodes volume like,

30
00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,560
Speaker 1: he was my permanent co host along with Scott. It

31
00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,640
Speaker 1: was me, Scott and Eric for a long time in

32
00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,720
Speaker 1: a rotation of some kind, so a familiar voice. I'm

33
00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,960
Speaker 1: sure it's a lot of you if you're new to

34
00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,200
Speaker 1: the podcast. Eric is also right now? Correct me? Eric is?

35
00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,640
Speaker 1: I believe he's a national M'll be staff writer at

36
00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,720
Speaker 1: fan Side. Is that correct? Eric? That's your job?

37
00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,400
Speaker 2: I am, yeah, that that is my full time job now.

38
00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,440
Speaker 2: Obviously did the Braves thing for a long time with you.

39
00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,040
Speaker 2: Then I moved to fan sided to run the the

40
00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,280
Speaker 2: Braves team site there for I want to say, like

41
00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,680
Speaker 2: nine months or so, and then I got hired full

42
00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,360
Speaker 2: time at fan Sided, where I've been bouncing around to

43
00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,359
Speaker 2: like six different teams doing coverage. I bounced around to

44
00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,959
Speaker 2: more than that every once in a while, but generally

45
00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,680
Speaker 2: I have like kind of like my little section of

46
00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,040
Speaker 2: the of the world I work with with one other person,

47
00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,359
Speaker 2: and it's honestly a lot of fun. I have a

48
00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,680
Speaker 2: lot of fun doing it, but I do I have

49
00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,320
Speaker 2: to admit I do kind of miss digging deep on

50
00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:25,959
Speaker 2: the Brave stuff.

51
00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I won't tell your boss that you're

52
00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,359
Speaker 1: still deep down attracted to the Braves in a serious way.

53
00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:39,400
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I'm I'm surrounded by Yankees fans inion and

54
00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,880
Speaker 2: they well, do you think I'm afraid? No, like I am,

55
00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,920
Speaker 2: especially right now. My disdain for the playoffs the last

56
00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,000
Speaker 2: couple of rounds has been well documented in the slack chat.

57
00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,720
Speaker 1: I'll say that, well that's good, and look, we'll we

58
00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,280
Speaker 1: will talk some some baseball. But I want people to

59
00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,360
Speaker 1: know if you didn't that Eric is great and we

60
00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,520
Speaker 1: talked to many many hours and hours and hours Eric,

61
00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,720
Speaker 1: because in fact was on was on the World Series

62
00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,280
Speaker 1: celebration show with me. We go way back, So a

63
00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,919
Speaker 1: fun conversation to be had. We'll talk to baseball Eric.

64
00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,760
Speaker 1: Eric also used to be like, if not the one

65
00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,760
Speaker 1: of the prospect guys around the Braves, So we'll ask

66
00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,720
Speaker 1: him some minor league questions later on prospect guys. No,

67
00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,600
Speaker 1: you're not. I know. I know you're watching. You're watching

68
00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,760
Speaker 1: like actually random good at games. I know you you're weird.

69
00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,480
Speaker 2: All the affiliates we picked one Neette, Okay, but yes,

70
00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,440
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I still keep I still keep up

71
00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,760
Speaker 2: with them. Sure, I can't. I can't help myself. I'll

72
00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,200
Speaker 2: leave the actual work to Garrett. Those guys though, Yeah,

73
00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,920
Speaker 2: we've had Garrett. We've had Garrett on too, and he's

74
00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,520
Speaker 2: he's a true sicko. But we'll get into that in

75
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,040
Speaker 2: a second. I do want to leave with off of

76
00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,400
Speaker 2: this stuf because you you somewhat jokingly, but it's been

77
00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:41,800
Speaker 2: too long.

78
00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,040
Speaker 1: And that's my fault for not having you on the

79
00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,440
Speaker 1: podcast sooner. But I wanted to ask you about this

80
00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season that just happened. You know, obviously

81
00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,320
Speaker 1: nobody had a ton of fun this season. But now

82
00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,000
Speaker 1: that we've gotten some distance, it's been a few weeks

83
00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,440
Speaker 1: now since the brace, we're not playing baseball. Me and

84
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,600
Speaker 1: Scott and Steven and Sean talked about it in some respects,

85
00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,520
Speaker 1: but uh, not that you're an outside but you're not

86
00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,760
Speaker 1: in the weeds. Every Day. What was your perception of

87
00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,880
Speaker 1: the season, how it all went, Because I thought, and

88
00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,360
Speaker 1: I would say this on the show, even people that

89
00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,480
Speaker 1: don't cover the wise every day national folks that I

90
00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,120
Speaker 1: trust were kind of like guys they were so injured

91
00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,040
Speaker 1: it didn't matter, and that was kind of like the takeaway,

92
00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,200
Speaker 1: whereas people that were close to it were just maddened

93
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,599
Speaker 1: all year long. So where'd you fall on that scale,

94
00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,400
Speaker 1: if anywhere?

95
00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,960
Speaker 2: I honestly, I almost kind of gave up hope after

96
00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,240
Speaker 2: like the third major injury, you know what I mean,

97
00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,200
Speaker 2: because because I thought it was a miracle that they

98
00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,839
Speaker 2: made the playoffs at all, because between the injuries that

99
00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,520
Speaker 2: they suffered, like just between the big names and the

100
00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,840
Speaker 2: small names, the sheer depth of the injuries on both

101
00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,560
Speaker 2: sides of the ball, combined with the roster moves that

102
00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:50,120
Speaker 2: were made to fix them, which were they were like

103
00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,520
Speaker 2: the kind of the really infuriating kind of band aids

104
00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,440
Speaker 2: were like they would be good for like two games,

105
00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,360
Speaker 2: and then you knew you were never going to get

106
00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,520
Speaker 2: rid of some of these guys. With Maryfield, I knew

107
00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,680
Speaker 2: from the get go, I'm like, he's gonna have two

108
00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,920
Speaker 2: good games and then we're never gonna all to get

109
00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,200
Speaker 2: rid of him. It's gonna Charlieulberson all over again. So

110
00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,640
Speaker 2: it was very It was obviously very frustrating, but I mean,

111
00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,800
Speaker 2: when you lose a Kunya, you lose Strider, then you

112
00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,840
Speaker 2: lose Riley, then you have Ozzy out for a long time.

113
00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,000
Speaker 2: Murphy was never the same after he had that oblique

114
00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,880
Speaker 2: injury and he came back. It was a very it

115
00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,839
Speaker 2: was very hard baseball to watch. But I also think

116
00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,320
Speaker 2: that if any other team in baseball had had the

117
00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,200
Speaker 2: number and quality of injuries that this Braves team had,

118
00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,719
Speaker 2: they would not have made the playoffs at all. They

119
00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,760
Speaker 2: would have been well out of contention, and that they

120
00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,600
Speaker 2: got that far considering both all the injuries and then

121
00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,719
Speaker 2: you know Matt Olsen regressing his way he did. I

122
00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,240
Speaker 2: mean it was basically Marcelo Zuna and then hoping that

123
00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,200
Speaker 2: Ramon Lariano's eater was going to carry them, and the

124
00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,840
Speaker 2: and then obviously the pitching staff, so you know, I mean,

125
00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,320
Speaker 2: Chris Sale pitched great. There were there were certainly some

126
00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,400
Speaker 2: bright spots up you know, Spencer Schwellenbach, and you know,

127
00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,320
Speaker 2: there's just there's a lot of things. There were things too,

128
00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,000
Speaker 2: like but there was a lot of very tough, very

129
00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,000
Speaker 2: tough losses that were very winnable games, and that the

130
00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,440
Speaker 2: two thousand and twenty two twenty one Braves would have

131
00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,960
Speaker 2: won those just and that that's frustrating to watch. But again,

132
00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,039
Speaker 2: we're also very spoiled, you know what I mean, Like

133
00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,760
Speaker 2: multiple one hundred plus teams is very you know, it's

134
00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,400
Speaker 2: it's hard to be too upset considering how lucky the

135
00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,080
Speaker 2: Braves had gotten in the last few years. But doesn't

136
00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:17,760
Speaker 2: mean it didn't suck.

137
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to put it. I mean,

138
00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,000
Speaker 1: we we did kind of try to acknowledge that as

139
00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,400
Speaker 1: a guys. It's kind of a rich man's problem in

140
00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,599
Speaker 1: some respects. But at the same time, what you said

141
00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,160
Speaker 1: is perfect that they made the playoffs. It didn't feel like

142
00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,000
Speaker 1: they were a playoff worthy team at the end, Like

143
00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,600
Speaker 1: I said, I think I had said this, like they

144
00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,719
Speaker 1: probably didn't deserve to make the playoffs. And you know,

145
00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,960
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people know how about the

146
00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,520
Speaker 1: expanded playoffs, like they shouldn't have been.

147
00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,560
Speaker 2: Rad only wants four teams in, you know, just top four. Yeah,

148
00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,359
Speaker 2: like full full college football treatment.

149
00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,640
Speaker 1: You got you got it. You got to earn it

150
00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,520
Speaker 1: over the over one sixty two everybody. That's how I

151
00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,760
Speaker 1: feel about it. But no, I mean so respectful think

152
00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,520
Speaker 1: they mean, yeah, no, you're right though they made it.

153
00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think that any team, maybe maybe the

154
00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,240
Speaker 1: Dodgers maybe could have made it playoffs with the injuries

155
00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,800
Speaker 1: the Braves had. They had, they had a lot of

156
00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:03,560
Speaker 1: their own too, but.

157
00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,919
Speaker 2: Still he has somebody like they if they lose like

158
00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,920
Speaker 2: two of their top three in their lineup, they don't

159
00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,680
Speaker 2: get in. Yeah. No, I think that's and and that's

160
00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,000
Speaker 2: what basically what happened to the Braves, if not.

161
00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,840
Speaker 1: More Yeah, I mean, and of course running it's almost

162
00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,280
Speaker 1: like not five Braves bands. But its almost like people

163
00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,120
Speaker 1: have forgotten that Ronnie's running, like you know, you kind

164
00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,680
Speaker 1: of gets tossed in there with everybody else. It's like, no,

165
00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,760
Speaker 1: they lost the best player baseball.

166
00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,800
Speaker 2: No, he's he's he's a different animal him. It's him

167
00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,880
Speaker 2: and Otani that they are kind of like the mutants,

168
00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,000
Speaker 2: and the Braves lost their mutant. And then again it's

169
00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,600
Speaker 2: it's more, it's more complicated than just the injuries, because

170
00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,160
Speaker 2: I mean, like if Matt Olsen was playing like he

171
00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,880
Speaker 2: did last year, the Braves probably went a few more

172
00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,360
Speaker 2: games and look a lot more dangerous, you know what

173
00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,040
Speaker 2: I mean. If you know Orlando Arcia isn't a complete

174
00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,160
Speaker 2: black hole, you know in the bottom of the lineup,

175
00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,400
Speaker 2: if you know the catchers hit it all, you know,

176
00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,120
Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of things that could have gone

177
00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,960
Speaker 2: a lot better. But again, at the end of the day,

178
00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,480
Speaker 2: I just at the end of the season, I'm like,

179
00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,920
Speaker 2: that they got in is a miracle and I was

180
00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,040
Speaker 2: fully expecting and which is what happened that you get

181
00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,640
Speaker 2: routed by the Padres, because I did think that team

182
00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,360
Speaker 2: was very breakant.

183
00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. I do want to

184
00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,880
Speaker 1: ask you one. I'm not sure it's a hot topic,

185
00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,280
Speaker 1: but it's one that we spent a whole show on

186
00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,360
Speaker 1: last week and then I kind of a follow up

187
00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 1: after that, and I was not sure what kind of

188
00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,000
Speaker 1: reaction it was going to produce. But it's about the

189
00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,920
Speaker 1: Dah situation, and I don't think people really thought through.

190
00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,040
Speaker 1: Is not everybody. I'm sure people did, but like a

191
00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,960
Speaker 1: lot of people like, whoa, you guys are right kind

192
00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,640
Speaker 1: of not necessarily the word right about our takes, but

193
00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,040
Speaker 1: just like this is kind of an interesting situation, which

194
00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,080
Speaker 1: is our whole premise, and it's basically like, okay, Eric,

195
00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,480
Speaker 1: I'll ask you what do the Braves do here? Because

196
00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,640
Speaker 1: can they keep Ozuna and so Lair with Ronnie probably

197
00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,920
Speaker 1: need the dh some all on the same team. It's

198
00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,199
Speaker 1: a pretty interesting question and would have to do the

199
00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,640
Speaker 1: forty five minute version like Scott and Steven and I did.

200
00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,480
Speaker 1: But like, where do you follow in the situation. Do

201
00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,200
Speaker 1: they have to do something or is it just like hey,

202
00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,960
Speaker 1: Horayce Hilaire goes sit out there and catch the ball

203
00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,280
Speaker 1: occasionally in the outfield.

204
00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,600
Speaker 2: I don't think that letting or hey, so Lair have

205
00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,840
Speaker 2: a glove on his hand is a good idea, just

206
00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,760
Speaker 2: as on general principle, And I feel the same way

207
00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,480
Speaker 2: of barrat Marcel Ozuna, which is kind of a problem, right,

208
00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,000
Speaker 2: So I don't think that they're the Braves are going

209
00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,960
Speaker 2: to dh Acuna as much, maybe like every so often,

210
00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,679
Speaker 2: just to give his legs a break. I think that

211
00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,160
Speaker 2: they're just gonna let him recover as long as he

212
00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,079
Speaker 2: needs to recover. They rushed him back the last time.

213
00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,840
Speaker 2: He was like forcing his way back into the lineup,

214
00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,160
Speaker 2: and he like basically played hurt for most of twenty

215
00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,040
Speaker 2: twenty two, so I don't think they're going to do

216
00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,200
Speaker 2: that again. But he also got hurt earlier in the year,

217
00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,000
Speaker 2: so maybe he will be a little bit further along

218
00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,280
Speaker 2: in his healing progression. I just don't think that the

219
00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,920
Speaker 2: Braves are going to do that much there, but I

220
00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,240
Speaker 2: think that they probably need to move so Lair. I

221
00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,640
Speaker 2: don't mean, look my feeling's on Marcelo Ozuna. I don't

222
00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,800
Speaker 2: care how well he's hit. Are well documented and if

223
00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,440
Speaker 2: I'd had my way, he wouldn't have been a Brave

224
00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,280
Speaker 2: this year or last year. But the reality is that

225
00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160
Speaker 2: they're going to that extra that option is getting exercised,

226
00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,760
Speaker 2: and he is a very important part of the line up,

227
00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,000
Speaker 2: especially given all the issues that they've had offensively. But

228
00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,199
Speaker 2: whereas so Laire is making sixteen million a year next year,

229
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,040
Speaker 2: and I think the bigger problem is that they have

230
00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,760
Speaker 2: two guys on this roster that they probably can't afford

231
00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,200
Speaker 2: to keep his luxuries if they want to do anything

232
00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,040
Speaker 2: this off season, one of them is so Lair. I

233
00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,760
Speaker 2: don't know how much of that salary they're evenna be

234
00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,320
Speaker 2: able to get covered by another team unless they're willing

235
00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,280
Speaker 2: to throw like attach a prospect to him. The other

236
00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,360
Speaker 2: one might be Rosziellaglesias, because again that's a guy that's

237
00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,080
Speaker 2: making real money.

238
00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:32,520
Speaker 1: Right.

239
00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,240
Speaker 2: Well, now, Brad, don't act surprised, don't know you are

240
00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,400
Speaker 2: you are? You are captain. Don't pay relievers? You and

241
00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,920
Speaker 2: Ivan No.

242
00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,120
Speaker 1: I I am on that side just for new listeners

243
00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,680
Speaker 1: that I've done this a lot recently because I'm almost like,

244
00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,920
Speaker 1: not that I've given up, but alex Is Alex is

245
00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,080
Speaker 1: not agree with me. Alex is very willing to pay relievers,

246
00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,600
Speaker 1: and he's shown that repeatedly. So it's I've kind of

247
00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,319
Speaker 1: just like seated the ground, like all right, Alex World

248
00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,560
Speaker 1: Series legends, I mean Will Smith, but even like Joe Amennez,

249
00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,200
Speaker 1: they paid Joemennez, they paid Pierce Johnson like they're paying

250
00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:04,720
Speaker 1: every reliever.

251
00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean.

252
00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,120
Speaker 1: Now AJ is a different scenario. We'll see what they

253
00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,000
Speaker 1: do with AJ coming off the injury and free and sy.

254
00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,360
Speaker 2: All that, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure that

255
00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,520
Speaker 2: AJ is going to get He's probably gonna have to

256
00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,680
Speaker 2: sign a one year deal for not a lot of

257
00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,360
Speaker 2: money to figure out because I mean, hip injuries are

258
00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,960
Speaker 2: look like those are one of those weird injuries you

259
00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,040
Speaker 2: need to need to show that you can actually move

260
00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,079
Speaker 2: and throw again.

261
00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,280
Speaker 1: On that. On that on that front, I was gonna say,

262
00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see you up because he was incredible this year,

263
00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,720
Speaker 1: So will you with that? But at the same time,

264
00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,720
Speaker 1: if you don't want to spend you know, sixty million

265
00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,080
Speaker 1: on your bullpen, which is kind of where they are

266
00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,320
Speaker 1: right now, or more whatever the number is, I don't

267
00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,160
Speaker 1: have it in front of me, But there is an

268
00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,040
Speaker 1: argument like when you have Joejanmenez, when you have these

269
00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,360
Speaker 1: other guys, like, do you want to spend and keep

270
00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,880
Speaker 1: spending sixteen million a year on your closer even if

271
00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,120
Speaker 1: because look, if you right, when he's pitching as well

272
00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,360
Speaker 1: as he was this year, nobody cares. But if he

273
00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,960
Speaker 1: has a bad season and he's at the age where

274
00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,800
Speaker 1: like he could fall off at any point, and they

275
00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,640
Speaker 1: probably know that.

276
00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,520
Speaker 2: So it's it's and it's also his last year, right,

277
00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,880
Speaker 2: So like you're you're not gonna be able to trade

278
00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,000
Speaker 2: you know, at the trade deadline, you'll be able to

279
00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,600
Speaker 2: move him if you really want to, but you're not

280
00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,200
Speaker 2: getting the cost savings that you would get from trading

281
00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,040
Speaker 2: him are high enough where I'd be very intrigued but

282
00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,440
Speaker 2: especially if someone was willing to make a real offer,

283
00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,800
Speaker 2: if they're wanting to say, look, it's you know, you're

284
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,440
Speaker 2: paying him so much that we don't want to throw

285
00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,400
Speaker 2: that much in in the deal, then no, don't do that.

286
00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,760
Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you're if you have

287
00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,360
Speaker 2: a team's like, look, we'll take on the salary and

288
00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,880
Speaker 2: we'll throw you a couple, you know, one or two

289
00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,880
Speaker 2: actual prospects, possibly ones that can hold a bat, you

290
00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,079
Speaker 2: know that, Like, those are things that the Braves need

291
00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,880
Speaker 2: to consider, you know, So I those are the two

292
00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,680
Speaker 2: names on the roster that I circle, and I'm like,

293
00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,320
Speaker 2: these are the guys that are making real money that

294
00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,400
Speaker 2: the Braves really should consider moving on from. Because again,

295
00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,640
Speaker 2: if you don't move one or both of them, there's

296
00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,520
Speaker 2: no discussion to be had about resigning Max Freed, There's

297
00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,240
Speaker 2: no discussion to be had about a Willia Domas signing.

298
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,400
Speaker 2: There's none. The Braves are too close to the luxury

299
00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,560
Speaker 2: tax and they don't want to go so far over

300
00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,600
Speaker 2: that they can't manage it. They kind of like to

301
00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,880
Speaker 2: be around it in some former fashions, so they can

302
00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,880
Speaker 2: make moves if they really need to, but they don't

303
00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,120
Speaker 2: go too far over if they don't, and those are

304
00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,960
Speaker 2: the two guys, because I mean, they're not gonna move Ozuna,

305
00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,880
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously don't. You don't move, Ronnie, you don't

306
00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,280
Speaker 2: move all the other guys who are making there's no

307
00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,280
Speaker 2: one else on. Those are the two guys. And I

308
00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,640
Speaker 2: think so Layer is going to be hard to move,

309
00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,880
Speaker 2: even though I tend to agree with you that they

310
00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,240
Speaker 2: probably need to move him because playing him in the field,

311
00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,520
Speaker 2: there are certain pictures, there are certain braves, pictures who

312
00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,520
Speaker 2: every time the ball was hit his way, were like,

313
00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,959
Speaker 2: please just don't fall and hurt yourself.

314
00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. I'm glad you keat it up.

315
00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,200
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm gonna dig a little bit more into

316
00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,120
Speaker 1: this in a second, but first they work from our

317
00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,000
Speaker 1: partners at Foul Territory.

318
00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,240
Speaker 3: This episode is brought to you by Manscape, the global

319
00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,800
Speaker 3: leader and men's lifestyle and grooming. If you're looking for

320
00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,640
Speaker 3: that fresh barbershop shave at home, introducing manscapes newest innovation,

321
00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,200
Speaker 3: the Chairman Pro electricfoil Shaver. Head over to manscape dot

322
00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,840
Speaker 3: com and join the over eleven million men worldwide who

323
00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,760
Speaker 3: trust Manscape by using code foul twenty for twenty percent

324
00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,400
Speaker 3: off plus free shipping.

325
00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,480
Speaker 4: I've had so many bad razors in my past and

326
00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,760
Speaker 4: you only get one face. Make account with the latest

327
00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,840
Speaker 4: tech in face electric shavers. I'm talking flex adjust technology,

328
00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,920
Speaker 4: which makes sure the blades and pivoting head adapt to

329
00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,480
Speaker 4: the unique contours of your face and neck to hit

330
00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,280
Speaker 4: all the angles.

331
00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,439
Speaker 5: There's a travel ox so you don't hear buzzing in

332
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,320
Speaker 5: your bag from an accidental on button situation. And the

333
00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,880
Speaker 5: Chairman Pro also features an LED spotlight to help you

334
00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,440
Speaker 5: see every detail.

335
00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,200
Speaker 3: Get the Chairman Pro today and experience a shave that

336
00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,880
Speaker 3: is smooth as a baby's butt. Get twenty percent off

337
00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,960
Speaker 3: plus free shipping with the code foul twenty at manscape

338
00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,520
Speaker 3: dot com. That's twenty percent off plus free shipping with

339
00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,400
Speaker 3: the code foul twenty at manscape dot com.

340
00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,160
Speaker 1: All right, Eric, let us keep talking about this actually

341
00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,600
Speaker 1: because it's interesting to me. And you brought up with Lesius.

342
00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,040
Speaker 1: You brought up so layer that is one of the

343
00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,880
Speaker 1: questions you know, payroll wise, and you mentioned the name

344
00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,240
Speaker 1: max Free, So I have to ask you this. I

345
00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,520
Speaker 1: didn't tee you up this, but I I know you

346
00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,800
Speaker 1: have an opinion because it's back. It's like this is

347
00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,000
Speaker 1: a big surprise topic, right Max, Just for people know

348
00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,600
Speaker 1: Eric covered Max's a prospect, so it's not like this

349
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,320
Speaker 1: is a guy you felt.

350
00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,360
Speaker 2: I saw his first start in the Braves organization. It

351
00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,200
Speaker 2: was not very good. But he Uh. I have been

352
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,120
Speaker 2: a Max Freed enjoyer as well as a Mike's Roker

353
00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,080
Speaker 2: enjoyer for quite some time.

354
00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,440
Speaker 1: Yes, not quite on the Mike Slimrik level of affection

355
00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,480
Speaker 1: probably for you, but still a guy you've covered for

356
00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,680
Speaker 1: a long time. Uh, you know where I'm going here.

357
00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,080
Speaker 1: It was kind of a weird season in that Max

358
00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,040
Speaker 1: is good, but every person I talked to, including Buster

359
00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,760
Speaker 1: Olin and Kim on our show, which is the weird

360
00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,440
Speaker 1: thing to say out loud and basically like talking about

361
00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,240
Speaker 1: like he was already gone. Yeah. I think he must

362
00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,680
Speaker 1: have joked in the wrong podcast, But no, Buster talked

363
00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,160
Speaker 1: about Max like he was already gone, and that was

364
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,160
Speaker 1: like in May, Like it wasn't like it was like

365
00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,680
Speaker 1: he's not coming back and everyone and everyone knows what

366
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,200
Speaker 1: he's coming back. But I will say, now that we've

367
00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,320
Speaker 1: gotten here, maybe he doesn't have a huge market. I'm

368
00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,840
Speaker 1: sure he does, but like, is there any way comes

369
00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,200
Speaker 1: back in your mind. Are you are you are you

370
00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,240
Speaker 1: considering it or you're just like resigned to the fact

371
00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:56,960
Speaker 1: that Max is gone?

372
00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:57,240
Speaker 2: Is that?

373
00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,320
Speaker 1: Where where are you at with this?

374
00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,320
Speaker 2: I think that Max might sign for less than we

375
00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,160
Speaker 2: think he would given his credentials. I don't think the

376
00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,880
Speaker 2: Braves are going to be interested in the length of

377
00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,680
Speaker 2: contract that Max could command.

378
00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,960
Speaker 1: It's always because I agree, yeah.

379
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,200
Speaker 2: It's it's he's already in his thirties, he's had two

380
00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,520
Speaker 2: years in a row now with arm trouble. He has

381
00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,080
Speaker 2: a history of arm trouble and just random, random, other

382
00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,560
Speaker 2: minor ailments, you know, anything that's in like attached to

383
00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,200
Speaker 2: his arm or growing injuries or hamstrings or whatever. He's

384
00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,560
Speaker 2: he's kind of just one of those guys that tends

385
00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,560
Speaker 2: to get those those minor tweaks. He doesn't have swing

386
00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,400
Speaker 2: and miss much swing and miss stuff is it's not

387
00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,120
Speaker 2: he's not like it's power stuff, but it's not power results.

388
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,600
Speaker 2: And the end result of that to me is that

389
00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 2: in two years, three years, when that you know, the

390
00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,240
Speaker 2: ninety six is becoming ninety four and the breaking ball

391
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,520
Speaker 2: isn't spiking into the ground, it's hanging out a little

392
00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,240
Speaker 2: bit in the bottom of the zone. It's troubling to

393
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,640
Speaker 2: think about where he could progress if his arm is

394
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,640
Speaker 2: truly giving in trouble. I mean, I love Max Free,

395
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,200
Speaker 2: He's been a fantastic pitcher for the Braves, But the

396
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,000
Speaker 2: idea of giving him a five or six year deal,

397
00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,920
Speaker 2: which is probably what he's going to get, unless it's

398
00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:14,760
Speaker 2: for an aav that's you know, almost insultingly low to him. Yeah,

399
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,159
Speaker 2: there's going to be teams that want a lefty with

400
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,280
Speaker 2: his pedigree that are willing to take the risk that

401
00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,880
Speaker 2: he gets hurt. The Braves aren't in the position where

402
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,399
Speaker 2: they have to do that. They have a rota, they

403
00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,199
Speaker 2: have a rotation basically ready to go. And I understand

404
00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,399
Speaker 2: that his market might not be as big as we thought.

405
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,320
Speaker 2: But I also think that Carlos Rodan signed a six

406
00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,639
Speaker 2: year deal for with the with the Yankees for a

407
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,520
Speaker 2: lot of money. I wouldn't sign Freed to, not even

408
00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,440
Speaker 2: particularly close to that. And he is a little bit younger.

409
00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,960
Speaker 1: And that's the problem, right And to that point, like,

410
00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,119
Speaker 1: how many of these deals don't end badly? Two for pictures?

411
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,200
Speaker 2: They they don't you know, maybe Garrett maybe maybe maybe

412
00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,760
Speaker 2: maybe Garrett call at the end of his and so they.

413
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,040
Speaker 1: All seem they all seem that badly. So that's that's

414
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,440
Speaker 1: kind that's kind of like table stakes. I get to

415
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,159
Speaker 1: kind of assuma taking end well. And the argument is

416
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,600
Speaker 1: to keep Max is more like, Okay, our window is

417
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,560
Speaker 1: why open right now? We're trying to win now, and

418
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it knowing that it's not gonna end well.

419
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,720
Speaker 1: And I would listen to that if I'm if I'm

420
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,919
Speaker 1: a Braves fan and I don't care about the wallets

421
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 1: of anyone in particular, I might be arguing at that point.

422
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,920
Speaker 1: And to their credit, they've spent I mean, you know me, Eric,

423
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 1: I used to be a big doubter of their willing

424
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,399
Speaker 1: to suspend and that and Liberty has spent money in

425
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,639
Speaker 1: a way that I did not think that they were

426
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,359
Speaker 1: going to. So credit to them, credit to Alex everybody.

427
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,840
Speaker 2: Right up right up against or over the luxury tasks.

428
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,520
Speaker 2: That's just what they do.

429
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 1: And they are not in the league.

430
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine.

431
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 1: Right, they're spending and maybe maybe there is to go

432
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000
Speaker 1: back to quick quickly into the solo thing and maybe

433
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,720
Speaker 1: even in places like you brought up or something. I

434
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,879
Speaker 1: do think that if they were to pay Max, it

435
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 1: would probably come at the expense of something else. They

436
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,520
Speaker 1: will probably need to, you know, not necessarily create space,

437
00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 1: but because it's not basketball where you have to fit

438
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 1: in the cat but is They're probably not going to

439
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,160
Speaker 1: just sign Macs above and beyond what they're already paying

440
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 1: everybody else to keep everybody else. That's probably not what's

441
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 1: not going to happen. So you know, on that front,

442
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,479
Speaker 1: I guess I should ask you about the rotation. There

443
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 1: was a show that I should plug right now that Sean

444
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 1: and Steven did at the end of last week kind

445
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,399
Speaker 1: of set you the table a little bit for the rotation.

446
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 1: And you know, we all understand stars coming back. Sales

447
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 1: really good, but sales kind of old Lopez was great

448
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 1: this year. We'll see to keep it on on brand

449
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 1: for you. I have to ask you about special fall

450
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 1: o'block because you were still covering the brain when they

451
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 1: drafted Spencer twenty twenty one draft. I believe is that correct?

452
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 1: That sounds right, But it's it's been an interesting run

453
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,199
Speaker 1: because like coming into the season, the prospect guys liked him.

454
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,119
Speaker 1: I asked Garrett about him before he got called up,

455
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: and he was very excited about Special up Block. At

456
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,640
Speaker 1: the same time, I don't think even Garrett would be like, yeah,

457
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna come up and have a low. Three is

458
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 1: the ra and twenty one starts with the big leag

459
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 1: club like he is really accelerated to the point where

460
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 1: it is a surprise. It looked great, It seems sustainable

461
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 1: to me. But uh, okay, he's not a prostate anymore.

462
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 1: He's a graduate prospect at this point, Eric, But what

463
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 1: did you make of the breakout of Spencer.

464
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 2: So early on in the year. I started hearing I

465
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 2: understand that I'm a washed up raise writer at this point,

466
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 2: but I still have I still have those in the

467
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 2: know that send me to bits every now and again.

468
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 2: And I started hearing a lot of really exciting stuff

469
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: about Spencer Schmoller back one, the velocity and movement of

470
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 2: the fastball. There was there was progression, which is always good.

471
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: You always like to hear that he's like the change

472
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 2: And then I start hearing like, hey, the change up's playing,

473
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 2: Hey the breaking ball. He's getting a lot of ugly

474
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: swings and missus at it. And then I start hearing

475
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: this guy can throw all of his struck pitches for

476
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 2: strikes and no one can do anything about it. And

477
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: that last part is a big one because with prospects,

478
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: they can be infuriating because you'll see him break off

479
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 2: a pitch.

480
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:56,239
Speaker 3: Uh.

481
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: Bradford famously a two joyer, a guy who can make pitches,

482
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: who can make really really nasty looking pitches, could not

483
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: find the strike zone to save his life. And in

484
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 2: Spencer's case, it's good stuff. And this is kind of

485
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: gets back to guys that I like. I like guys

486
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: that pound the zone with good stuff. And Spencer is

487
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: not afraid of anybody. He's he's just like just shows up.

488
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean again, the first few starts, there's some speed

489
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 2: bumps here and there, but that's not anything different from

490
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: any any starting pitcher. But he just throws strikes in

491
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: every situation. For a long time, I liked him better

492
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: out of the stretch versus the wind up when he

493
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: first started pitching again after Tommy John in the system,

494
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: and then this year is when I first started going.

495
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: He actually just kind of looks. It doesn't matter if

496
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: there's Pete guys on base or you know, he's out

497
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 2: of the wind up or he's you know, it's out

498
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: of the stretch. It's it all looks right, and the

499
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 2: release point is consistent. He pounds the strike zone. There's

500
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: gonna be times when guys know he's living in the

501
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: strike zone and really good hitters with like a lot

502
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: of bat speed especially, are going to give him, you know,

503
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: are going to get him. But he has he has

504
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 2: multiple pitches that are very hard to square up for anybody. Right,

505
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: he's I don't know how they hit him at all,

506
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: but you know, just it's a hard look for them.

507
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 2: But I could see some lefties, you know, maybe a

508
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 2: really good ones might give him some trouble. But he's

509
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: been tremendous and again he's really young. We'll see what

510
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: hitters have for him, what pitches are looking for next year.

511
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: I am not going to be shocked, and I don't

512
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: think anyone should be shocked though, if the Braves don't

513
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: make an aggressive push to try to extend him, and

514
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: if that's the case, if that's the case, like if

515
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: he if he's willing to sign an extension that even

516
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: resembles like the Spencer Strider or maybe a bit less

517
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: than that, you know, Braves fans should be static, and

518
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: that's a good use of resources versus you know, maybe

519
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: throwing a lot of money at max freed when it

520
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: might not be worth doing.

521
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not I'm not the biggest. He's just

522
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: about extending pictures. But if you could do it for

523
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: cheap this early, like Spencer's is a great example, right,

524
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: it's yep, it was okay now six years seventy five

525
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: million for a second level guy. Like the downside is

526
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: relatively minimal. Pictures are risky for sure, but Spencer did

527
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: look like a guy who's trying to be risky this

528
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: year's It's at the Arm trouble. But what you said

529
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: is a great example to me, Like, I don't know

530
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: if I would take the over of the under on

531
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: his era from this year going into next year because

532
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: it was really good. And that's not a shot him,

533
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: that's just almost for everyone that's not some superstar, but

534
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: like the underlying stuff was was really good. I mean,

535
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: he has, like you said, four or five pitches that

536
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: are all pretty intriguing pitches, and the combination of never

537
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: walking anyone and also getting chases and avoiding the barrels,

538
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: that combination a lot.

539
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 2: It's a lot of innings that a lot of innings.

540
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: He's he's really uh good already in a way that

541
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: is kind of scary, because I mean not that he was.

542
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: He was always supposed to be. I don't think, I

543
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: don't want, I don't want misquote Garrett. But I had

544
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: Garrett on before he got called up, like I said,

545
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, well everybody well loves the scoy,

546
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: but it was much more of a like he was

547
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: seen as the safe, not safe as as a dirty word.

548
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't mean it that way, but he was like

549
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: the more projectable of the guys because like and it

550
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they got Waldrop and smith Shov coming

551
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: as well, who were seen as the higher upside guys, right,

552
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure they're have higher upside than swallow Bach.

553
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: Do this now, I mean you've seen this for a season. Like,

554
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: I can't really say that.

555
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 2: He he Schwallenbach was such a weird case because he

556
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: was like a college shortstop and reliever at Nebraska, and

557
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: the Braves draft him and said we want you to start,

558
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: and so a lot of people didn't know what to

559
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 2: make of him. A lot of folks thought that maybe

560
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: he just ends up as a reliever. And again, when

561
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: I'm seeing him better out of the wind up versus

562
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: or out of the stretch versus the wind up, and

563
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: he's better there. I'm like, well that makes sense, but

564
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: also is that's just something that's gonna stick. And then

565
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: he had Tommy John and you're like, okay, it was

566
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: just actually good. And then he was fully healed up

567
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 2: and is off and offseason, all of a sudden everything

568
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: looked crisp, and he just kept getting better and making

569
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: micro adjustments here and there. I mean, no, we did

570
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: not think and I am not going to lie and

571
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 2: pretend like there are there have been times where I've

572
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: bet on guys early and I felt very smart. I

573
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 2: was a fan of Spencer Schwellenbach. I did not think

574
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: he was gonna be this good, and I'm very happy

575
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: to be wrong about it.

576
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's quite impressive, and I'm also intrigued to see

577
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: what happens moving forward for a guy who's still I

578
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: believe twenty four as we are speaking here in October, Eric,

579
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: I do want to go elsewhere into some non established

580
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: big leaguers. Okay, I didn't prep it for this this

581
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: particular question. I know, I know you don't have an answer.

582
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: You sent me a text and a tend to line

583
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: dog you didn't prepare me for anything.

584
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: This is the only thing or as Ma we're talking.

585
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: I'm thinking he had an answer to this. You're so

586
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube right now, you'll see this. Eric's

587
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: current screen name is Mike Soroka Enjoyer. Eric was always

588
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: the the Soroka guy. We all like Soroka. He was

589
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: the Soroka guy. Not that you'll ever have another Soroka.

590
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: But do you have a favorite prospect in the system.

591
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: That's the part I didn't prep it for you. Do

592
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: you have a guy that's like, not not a serrocing guy,

593
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: but do you have like a Croca minus guy, like

594
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: someone that you are attached to you You may not.

595
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm just thought, I asked, why have you?

596
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: I am very intrigued by Drew Hackenberg, who is, Okay,

597
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: the opposite, the opposite of Soroka is a guy who

598
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: like throws, like has trouble throwing strikes, but like very

599
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: strange swing and miss stuff. You know, sinker slider guy.

600
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it should get as much as

601
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: many strikeouts as he does, but he does. I've been

602
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: intrigued by not true Alvarez for a long time. But

603
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 2: he also infuriates. He's a guy that like if you

604
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: watch if you watch him in bat practice, and he's

605
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, these are this is gonna be my

606
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: power swing, and this is like this guy can drive

607
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: the ball consistently and play at the ball hard, and

608
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: then as soon as live games hit, it's like, choke

609
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: up the bat. Brett Butler just slap the ball sixty

610
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: seventy miles an hour the opposite way. He's very good

611
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: at it, but I wish he turned on them on

612
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: balls more. I think he's a very good left side

613
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: of the defender, of the infield defender. Maybe better at

614
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: third than short but both he's very good there. I

615
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: think he's an intriguing option at shortstop if the Braves

616
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: don't like Orlando Arcia, which frankly, if they watched Orlando

617
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Arcia last year, they probably shouldn't like him. But it's

618
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: his early debut did not go well, and that's gonna

619
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: be on people's minds and whether or not he is

620
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: able to deal with velocity and do something with it.

621
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, big league defenders are good. You know,

622
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: you can only opposite field grounders. I mean, I've seen

623
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: a lot of ender n CRT ground balls the second

624
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: base in my day. You know, they they cover, they

625
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: cover a lot of ground. And that's kind of the

626
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: speed that we're talking about in terms of Alhrdy's hitting

627
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: the ball a lot of the time, but I think

628
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: the back to the ball skills are really good. He's

629
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: has a really good eye at the plate, which I

630
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: think helps. I just wish he dil did more with

631
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: that information other than just try to poke the ball

632
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: in play. And again, like once he went back down,

633
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: there was a chance, there was there were opportunity means

634
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: once Ozzie got hurt, but then he got sick and

635
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: you know, then he didn't start playing, wasn't playing particularly

636
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: well on TRIPAA. I I am very intrigued by him,

637
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: but he is a guy. He is one of those

638
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: guys kind of in that Von Grissom camp where I

639
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: see it where it could be, but what ends up

640
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: happening in practice is not what is happening enough in games.

641
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt bad. You know, I always this publicly.

642
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: I'll say it on this show just to make sure

643
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: of my nose is. I'm not a prophetic expert. I

644
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: can watch a guy and I can look at stats

645
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not this is not what it's not my beat,

646
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: but Nacho and we tried to warn people and look,

647
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: you know that Sarah more than anybody, Like the Brigs

648
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: have this really high batting average and I used that

649
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: word intentionally when they when they call guys up, it's

650
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: gone really well for like the last several years for

651
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: the most part, like very few guys who's busted out.

652
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: And it was only what thirty play appearances or whatever,

653
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: it was forty play appearances, but it was really bad.

654
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: He looked, he looked overmatched, and there's nothing wrong with that.

655
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: It's just that he was up early and they pushed

656
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: him and he wasn't ready and that's okay. But he's

657
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: still aspect that matters, like he's still one of their

658
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: top ten guys or top six guys or whatever it is,

659
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: and yeah.

660
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: He absolutely is. But the situations were different too. When Mike,

661
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 2: Michael Harris, Spencer Strider, those guys were called up, they

662
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: were called up with purpose. They're like, we think this

663
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: guy can help. When the Raids are calling up guys

664
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: this year, they're like, our roster is on fire.

665
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to do.

666
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: We have to we have to have somebody to play baseball.

667
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know if the situations are completely analogous,

668
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: but I understand where you're coming from. I I like him,

669
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: love again. He'd have to hit ball harder for me

670
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: to love him. But I yeah, he's the guy that's

671
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: intrigued me. He's he's the guy that's intrigued me for

672
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: a long time, basically since they drafted him. I didn't

673
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: think that. I mean again, I love the back to

674
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: ball skills. I just you know, guys who just poked

675
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: the ball around, and you know I think that, Yeah,

676
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: And I know he has it in him because I

677
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: mean I've seen him park balls four hundred feet in

678
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: batting practice. He just doesn't turn on pitches nearly as

679
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: much he does. He really doesn't like pulling the ball,

680
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: and I think if he did, he'd end up doing

681
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: himself some favors, especially if he could turn on blossom.

682
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about the pitcher's non Schwelly

683
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: division and mostly A J. Smith, schov and Hearson Waldrop,

684
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: because I know Fangraft still has AJ is the number

685
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: one guy in the system right now. I think pipe

686
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: Plane is number has a number two. Waldrip is of course,

687
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: a first round pick, big name, and they had Ken Caminiti,

688
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: who's obviously a longer way away, but a first round

689
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: pick this year. Probably the three guys other than maybe

690
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: Nacho and Drake Ball would will ask you about a

691
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 1: second that, like even casual fans know who they are,

692
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: at least they've heard the name because their first round picks.

693
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: And Smith Schov who was already been in the majors.

694
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: And I'll say that's just his preface to this. He

695
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: was done. No favorites with the playoff thing. I know

696
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: he was awful in that game, but like, I don't

697
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: really blame him for that. He was not ready. That's

698
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: not really his fault. He shouldn't have been that. He

699
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: should have been out there. But all that's say, I

700
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: don't want to speak for you, but what do you

701
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: do you like? Any like? Where are you out of

702
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: these guys in general? I don't mean a lump them in,

703
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: But that's a question people always ask, is like, all right,

704
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: Waldrop and smith Schov if they have a spot up,

705
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: like for instance, this year, if the Braves have a

706
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: spot this year or the rotation, who gets it? Who

707
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: do you like? More like, what do you think about

708
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: these guys.

709
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: So these are very three these I mean, like you

710
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: kind of hinted that there are three very different guys.

711
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and tell you now. I don't think

712
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: that putting cam kevian Idi in the rotation he's he's different,

713
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: that would be that would be a historically terrible idea.

714
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I believe he's like a twenty twenty eight et a

715
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: kind of guy.

716
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Would be my guess. That's probably that's probably accurate. So

717
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: I think the edge goes to wall dripp And there's

718
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: for a few reasons for that one.

719
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: I like a J.

720
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: Smith Schafer a lot. Did deal with some injuries this year,

721
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: and I think that he is very much a fastball

722
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: or bust guy. I think that getting some more reps

723
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: with his breaking stuff and off speed stuff's gonna do

724
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: him a lot favors. I think the stuff is great.

725
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: He was moved very very fast last year, and then

726
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: he dealt with injuries this year. I just think he

727
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: just needs time to like, let's see what he looks

728
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: like in spring training, what kind offseason work he does.

729
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 2: But he's just the guy that needs to learn how

730
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: to find this the top. He needs to hit the

731
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: top of the zone. He can't like just you know,

732
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: yeat the ball nine nine a foot up and expect

733
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: these guys to swing at it. And if he can

734
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: do that, and he can start like you know, like

735
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: nibbling around the zone, the ve loss, he's gonna play up.

736
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: Then the breaking stuff starts playing because he's gonna speed

737
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: guys up. I think he can be very, very good.

738
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: I just think that he was moved too fast. He

739
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: just found some success, got moved up a little bit

740
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: too fast, dealt with some injuries. I would not be

741
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: too on board with starting him in the twenty twenty

742
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: five rotation until I saw him, whereas Waldrip again kind

743
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: of the same thing, dealt with injuries, command issues, ultimately

744
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: wasn't able to secure a rotation spot this year. But

745
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: this is a college arm and he has multiple pitches

746
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: that I would just classify as big league golferings. When

747
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: you have that splitter and you have that fastball, you

748
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: can get away with a lot more. And he has

749
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: a bit more experience just in general because of his

750
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: time in college. I would I think the stuff is

751
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: comparable to a J. Smith shower, and I think that

752
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: the likelihood that he finds the way to command it

753
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: and do so against big league hitters. I have a

754
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: little bit more confidence in right now. I like Kim

755
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: Kim Minitty. No, obviously not a twenty twenty five guy.

756
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Yes, Braves.

757
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: The Braves seem to keep getting lucky with guys falling

758
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: in their laps in the first round.

759
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should say, it's just don't know this. Kevin

760
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: Eddy was the first round pick of the Braves this

761
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: last year. I think he was a twenty fourth overall

762
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: on the board something like that. That's just jumping. So

763
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: that's why we're talking about him. He is again, he's

764
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. He's not going to be here for

765
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: a while.

766
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: But well you say that, but I mean everyone's going

767
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: on a rocket ship through the minor leagues on l

768
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: like across league wide. If he was, if he if

769
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: he played for the Angels, he would be starting them

770
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: for them this year. I'll say, well, yeah, that's.

771
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: That is fair. And also, you know it's interesting because

772
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: you know high school arms and I get it because

773
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: I am kind of more on this side anyway. You know,

774
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: people see first round pick and they're thinking, all right,

775
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: suit it rather than later. And I think time went

776
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: to get mess up too, You're going to pay a

777
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: ptition this stuff closely for ins, for example, it's a

778
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: little bit diff But Waldrip was drafted two years after Spashaver,

779
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: so it feels like he's the new guy, even though

780
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: he's older than Smasher. Still like walterf is older than Spashoffer,

781
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: it feels like he's the younger guy because he just

782
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: got drafted later. But he was a college arm, like

783
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: you said, so guys arrive at different ages and ages

784
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: twenty one still, which seems like it's it's impossible.

785
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: And he was relatively new to pitching when he got drafted,

786
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: So like, I'm not wanting to rush that guy, especially

787
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: with the arm talent that he has. And I hope

788
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: they don't rush kaman Eddy I mean especially, I mean

789
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 2: the reason he felt to them Braves in the first round.

790
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: At least that's the rumors. Like there was like some

791
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: maturity issues and you know, there were some questions about

792
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 2: whether enough stuff was going to be good enough long

793
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: term with multiple pitches of the field for spin, you know,

794
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: things like that. So I, you know, take your time

795
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: with those guys. I'd rather if you bet on this

796
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: college arm that fell in your lap. I'd rather develop

797
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: the guys who need the development and then figure out

798
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: these college arms that you drafted can actually give you something.

799
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, keman Eddie was seventeen when he was drafted. He's eighteen,

800
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: but he was seventeen when he was taken, so he's

801
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: a big Yeah.

802
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, reclassified into a different draft class. A lot of

803
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: Shenanigans in that whole situation, Shenanigan.

804
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

805
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

806
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I asked you about one

807
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: more guy and then anybody you want to talk about

808
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: we can, and that is Drake Baldwin because, uh, Eric,

809
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: I know you're not in the streets every single day anymore.

810
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: But uh, the Sean Murphy struggles were not met well

811
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: by the fan base this year. People.

812
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: I did read some tweets.

813
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. You can't be terribly surprised by that.

814
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: But also that the combination of that and Travis's age,

815
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: Travis is still good, he's just old, means more attention

816
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: for one Drake Baldwin, who also had a great year

817
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: in the minors, which helps. So that combination means, like

818
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: I think, if you pull on our mentions right now,

819
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: it's Hamber territory. The number one prospect that we were

820
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: asked about is Drake Baldwin. So, uh, what is this

821
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: guy to report there? And obviously there is nowhere for

822
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: him to go right now because unless something changes, be

823
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: a trade, Murphy and d'arnaut were on this team for

824
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Uh, and at spot, as discussed earlier,

825
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: it is not open, so there's not really a lot

826
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: of rotitions to be happening. So Drake Baldwin is gonna

827
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: probably be Glenet again. We'll see what happens there. But

828
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: what do you make of him?

829
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't see a world where the brands are going

830
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 2: to give up on Sean Murphy.

831
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: I just don't.

832
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: I think that.

833
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: We mean.

834
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: The running joke when we were writing together is like

835
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: opaque injuries are like the last thing you want because

836
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: they're either healed in two weeks or they basically end

837
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: the guy's season or the end the guy's season. You know,

838
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: like there's a lot and in Murphy's case, he got hurt,

839
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: wasn't playing particularly well before he got hurt, but then

840
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: he got hurt, and that's a violent swing and he

841
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: never all of a sudden he couldn't pop up and

842
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: throw guys out. He couldn't swing to save his life

843
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: unless he like guessed really early and got started. Nothing

844
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: looked right. I think he was hurt. I think that

845
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: with a normal offseason and then maybe some coaching, he

846
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: should be fine. Now that said, Drake Baldwin is kind

847
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: of gonna be forcing some issues. One of two things

848
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: are gonna happen. Either Baldwin's gonna be a part of

849
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: a trade and like a big piece. I think I

850
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: just don't think they're gonna give up on Murphy. And

851
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: in Tda's case, I mean, like I think he's gonna

852
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: be back for next year. And if that's the case,

853
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: then you you're you're one of your best hitting prospects.

854
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: You're letting ride at Gwinette. And maybe maybe what I

855
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: think they want to do is do the split that

856
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: they were trying to do this year, which is most

857
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: of the time the Murphy, some of it to Darnault,

858
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: and then Darnaul rides off into the sunset. But I

859
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: think Baldwin, if he's gonna be a factor, either one

860
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: of the two catchers gets hurt, which frankly seems very

861
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: likely after the twenty twenty four season that we just

862
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 2: have experienced. Sure, or uh, it's gonna be a twenty

863
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: twenty sixth situation for him.

864
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: You also don't want there's there's a Dulkin dance here,

865
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: but you also want the guy to play. Like I've

866
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: seen some people like one of they just want they

867
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: just call up, and I'm like, well, because he's got

868
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: to play, you don't You don't want to play the

869
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: guy once once a week. He'll stop developing if that happens.

870
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: And I feel very I feel stronger about that about

871
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: catchers than anyone else because reps and calling games and

872
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: getting used to, you know, like working with different pitchers.

873
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: You can't like you're gonna call him up and like

874
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: let him catch once maybe twice a week, you know,

875
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: with the guy who might be the catcher of your future.

876
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: Either you use it like if you have another team

877
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: that's like, hey that we if we trade for this guy,

878
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: he would be our primary catcher next year. Yeah, like

879
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: you could probably get something very real for that. Or

880
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: did the Braves make the decision like hey, this is gonna

881
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: be our guy. I still don't think that he'd be

882
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: up as a backup. I think that they will try

883
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: Murphy regardless one more time as their primary guy. Again,

884
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: there's there's real money hung up on him, which is

885
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: not a small deal. He's also, like, by the way,

886
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: was one of the best catchers in baseball until his

887
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: you know, like I until this year. For four years

888
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: he was one of the best catchers in baseball, and

889
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, Braves fans were willing to,

890
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: you know, fire him out of a cannon because the

891
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 2: guy was very obviously her So I just I don't

892
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: see Drake. He had a really good year, but I

893
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: think that with catchers, it's one of the I'm not

894
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: willing to rush those guys. Analytics guys loved him when

895
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: he was drafted. Now scout more scouts are on top

896
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: of him because he's been calling better games and he

897
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: has better receiving skills. But he's not like a franchise cornerstone,

898
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: like hitting four hundred a triple A guy. He's been

899
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: playing pretty well, you know what I mean, And.

900
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: I was right, I mean he hit Actually the number

901
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to do we say out loud, is that

902
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: in Gwinette. It was seventy two games, but he had

903
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: fifty two walks, fifty four strikeouts. I love that I

904
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: love that guys that walk and don't strike out, like

905
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: sign me up for that. But no, I he's twenty three,

906
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: not like yeah, well that's different as we talked about earlier.

907
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: But no, bal When's not a guy that I think

908
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: should be dictating. What I always say is like, there

909
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: are prospects. There are very few of these guys that

910
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: like dictate plans for a contending team. Ron Nkunya was

911
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: that level of prospect. He might have that one too, right,

912
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: So there are guys that are like untradeable, and he's

913
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: one of them. But my untradeable list is usually a

914
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: lot smaller than everybody else in tradable list. When it

915
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: comes to prospecs, Austin would have been a goner.

916
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: He would have been.

917
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: That is accurate.

918
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: That's Miami Marlin.

919
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: That is accurate. I was certainly not high on Austin,

920
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: and I was wrong about that, which is fine. I'm

921
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: gonna be wrong sometimes. That's part of the deal with

922
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: like making guys.

923
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: With short along with shortstop as the albis.

924
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: There it is. I was waiting for that forty minute

925
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: mark perfect I was uh no, but that and I

926
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: get that. Part of that is I acknowledge that that

927
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: my way of thinking about this is maybe somewhat risky

928
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: as far as like perception wise, because you're gonna miss

929
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: like you'll trade a guy that you shouldn't have traded

930
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: and it makes you look bad. But I think more

931
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: often than not, you're gonna get more out of guys

932
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: in trade. I think if you're selling at the right price,

933
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: and I think the Brad's not gonna trade Ball on

934
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: anybody else for for a low value, like they're gonna

935
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: you said it up earlier. If it's if it's a

936
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: team that's trying to trade for him as their start

937
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: at the future, that's a that's a reason to trade

938
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: guy who's gon to get a lot four or he

939
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: becomes the number one asset in a big trade for somebody.

940
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: That that makes total sense to me. Like if it's

941
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: for like I don't know, I'm gonna name a player

942
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: right now, but that makes sense. But there is a

943
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: scenario because I think I agree, it's a different conversation

944
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: if Murphy is bouncing back and being some version of

945
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy that we recognize, is there even a really

946
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: you still not want to trade dray ballwin Because if

947
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Sean Murphy again, And that's an if. I'll

948
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: grant that, but that's if that's the case. Even with

949
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: even when Travis leaves or retires or whatever, that's still

950
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: you're you're having this prospects. Big prospect would be like

951
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: a thirty five percent of the time catcher, Like there's

952
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: some limited ceiling that If Murphy is Murphy again, that's

953
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: a big if.

954
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: But considering and I just I just don't think the

955
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: Bridge are gonna give up on that. After one bad

956
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: season when he was the guy, was think guy was hurt.

957
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: Now if he's bad next year, it's a it's a

958
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: completely different even though I will like that, yes, yeah,

959
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: you don't. If you played bad two years in row,

960
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: you might just be bad and then you might need

961
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: to have some some costs. By just I just don't

962
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: think considering Murphy's track record, I just don't think he's

963
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: that guy. I think he hurt his I think he

964
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: heard his oblique and then either it remained hurt or

965
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: he was scared to hurt it again and that was

966
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: affecting his way. Yeah, and how how I was moving.

967
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: But people will see almost the sickles. We'll see balls

968
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: playing for TSA in a couple of weeks months. I

969
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: think it's premiere twelve, so he'll be in the.

970
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: New gart Garrett yep, Garrett Garrett will have a bat

971
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: By at that buyout bat coverage.

972
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: Yes, Battery power dot com if you want to listen

973
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: to and re sorry read about all the stuff with

974
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: h with Drake Baldwin in the next few weeks. Eric,

975
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: before we start to sign off, is there anything else

976
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: that you want to say about anything? Because you're you're

977
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: the guest, it's been a while you've been itching to talk.

978
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: As you said earlier on the podcast, anything else you

979
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: want to talk about.

980
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: I am so upset that I didn't get to come

981
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: on the podcast right after Michigan won the National championship.

982
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 5: I was, I was, I was.

983
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 2: I was texting and terrorizing you the entire game.

984
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: And but but when I was, I was dying.

985
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: So I was. I was great from ear to ear.

986
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I would pay a lot of money

987
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: to be in the room with Brad. Were you pacing

988
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: were you like up pacing back?

989
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think that's not the entire game? Uh,

990
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: it was, it was something to be sure. Uh, and

991
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: it just happened with and before that people know, we

992
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: can't remember here about this, but uh, the band the

993
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: game was more stressful, but the the the championship game

994
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: was was fun. But I was not at all relaxed

995
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: until it was it's almost official.

996
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I could just envision like like you know,

997
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: like kind of like the beautiful mind thing, where like

998
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: if they do this, this and this, we can lose.

999
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: And I mean, oh yeah, I mean I remember. I

1000
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: remember the World I remember the World Series were like this,

1001
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: this game six could fall apart, it could happen.

1002
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: Lots of messages between us on in public and in private,

1003
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: being like, all right, how did the braise blow this?

1004
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: Let's see, le's see other blow.

1005
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: This thing at lot. There were a lot of messages,

1006
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: a lot they.

1007
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: Didn't they didn't blowup. And we have we have the sill.

1008
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: I still have the I said this before it. I

1009
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: still have the I have the actual recording file of

1010
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: our World Series celebration podcast on my computer.

1011
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: So that's awesome. I I lost a lot of recordings

1012
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: when I it was off my old laptop, and all of.

1013
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: A sudden, I said, that's the that's the one I had.

1014
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: I should have I should have backed them up. I

1015
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: just never had hardware failures at the scale that I had.

1016
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: I smelled smoke and then the computer was an actual

1017
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: break you and it was out of nowhere. It was

1018
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and it was completely dead. I couldn't

1019
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: pull anything off.

1020
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: Uh that that happens. Oh I should also I'm a

1021
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: tee up for this.

1022
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

1023
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: Eric, Many people ask why you're not on Twitter anymore?

1024
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask that question on the lay out.

1025
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: This is the most frustrating experience. So I will tell

1026
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: listeners now, I don't miss any of you on Twitter.

1027
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: There there I missed individual people interacting with them, but

1028
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: everyone on Twitter becomes some degree of miserable, even Bradley especially.

1029
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: That's that's fair. That's fair.

1030
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: But my absence isn't because of that. My absence is

1031
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: because I switched phones and everything was supposed to everything else.

1032
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: All my two factor authentication moved over, but Twitter did not.

1033
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, I'll just you know,

1034
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: scan the code or whatever. This was like a year

1035
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: and a half ago that the switch happened, and I

1036
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: have not been able to get back into my account

1037
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: ever since. It's been a nightmare. And I mean, like,

1038
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: this isn't something like oh well, I only did it

1039
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: a couple times and I was in try. I even

1040
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: tried last month to try to set it. And what

1041
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: happens is like I try to go through, Hey, my

1042
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: two factors broken, I need a customer support ticket, and

1043
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: you just get an automated you know ticket saying like,

1044
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: you know, please try doing this, please try doing this,

1045
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: and then they send you an email that says we

1046
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: are it appears that you are in control of your account.

1047
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: We are closing this ticket. Have a nice day. And

1048
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: that is why I have not been on at all.

1049
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: So to update folks on, I still haven't gotten the

1050
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: Acuna tattoo. And the very blunt reason is that I

1051
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 2: went to two consultations and I had panic attacks during

1052
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: both of them. I'm still going to get the tattoo.

1053
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: But when you go to two different tattoo artists and

1054
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: I say I would like this on my shoulder, and

1055
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: they both both of them want to tattoo something completely

1056
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: different on a completely different part of my body two

1057
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: different times, and one of them won that charged me

1058
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred dollars to do it, I was like, okay,

1059
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to do a little bit more research,

1060
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: and I just haven't gotten the time to do it.

1061
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: But I remain committed this. This tattoo is happening. Everyone

1062
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: raises all the money for that, you know, very ill

1063
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: advised bet that I made in twenty twenty three. But uh,

1064
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: you know, I am going to do this. But again

1065
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: I have to find I'm have to find the right

1066
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: situation so that I don't like, you know, end up

1067
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: in jail for assaulting a tattoo artist, for trying to

1068
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: tattoo my forearm with Ronald Cotney Junior's face, and you

1069
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: know all this other stuff.

1070
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: Well, despite Twitter being a place that we all spend time,

1071
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: that's the nice person place I do. I do miss

1072
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: you there, and I will probably tag you on there.

1073
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: No no, when I post this podcast, knowing that you

1074
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: won't be able to do anything about it, I'll tag

1075
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: you if people will recognize it. But one day you'll

1076
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: get that one.

1077
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: There's like there's like ten or twelve people there now

1078
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: that might remember that I used to write about the braves.

1079
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm I'm going to be I'm already

1080
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: forgotten relic. I just simply a guy who writes baseball stuff.

1081
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: But I have missed you. I miss Scott, you know,

1082
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: those the battery power days where like they got me

1083
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: the job that I have now. And I'm forever grateful,

1084
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: like not only for those moments that we shared do

1085
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: in the podcast, but all the writing, all the work,

1086
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: late night conversations.

1087
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

1088
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: Just I am forever grateful. I'm glad to get to

1089
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: talk to you again. I miss my guys. I miss

1090
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I missed the minor league guys too. You know.

1091
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: I get to still talk to Garov every once in

1092
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: a while. Every once in a while Garrett will send

1093
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: me a text. But you know, it does I must

1094
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: admit it does feel a little weird doing this full

1095
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: time and not doing it with the guys who helped

1096
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: me get there. And I don't I don't forget you

1097
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: guys or.

1098
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 5: Any of that.

1099
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's we spent a lot of time together.

1100
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: You work very still. I know you still work hard

1101
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: when what you're doing.

1102
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: Now, but no, I don't know, I don't know. I'm

1103
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: basically a part time worker.

1104
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: Now you've retired to full time service basically.

1105
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, like two three articles a week,

1106
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't really, I don't. I don't.

1107
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: I don't really just generally do the writing thing anymore.

1108
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm more of an idea guy.

1109
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: That's that's a nice job, get no, no kidding.

1110
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: I'm writing quite a bit. I'm writing quite a bit

1111
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: and also an idea this guy.

1112
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: That's right, that's part of the thing.

1113
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: I have a lot of fun.

1114
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 5: I have a lot.

1115
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: I have a lot of fun. I have a lot

1116
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: of fun with the fan side of guys too. I

1117
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: just you know, I don't forget what got me here.

1118
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: And I am again like grateful for that initial opportunity

1119
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: when I basically badgered Chris and to letting me write

1120
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: from the site. Uh, twenty fifteen, that was a long time.

1121
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: It's yeah, we've we've been doing this for a long time.

1122
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: But no, thanks for doing this, man. We'll do it

1123
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: again sooner. It's my fault you've not done before this.

1124
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: But I will come back.

1125
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: I take do do not believe them, listeners, I will

1126
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 2: see you in five years. I'm sorry.

1127
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: I take I take four responsibility. Eric will be on

1128
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: sooner and more regularly than this. Uh, but no, thanks

1129
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: for doing this man. People should be checking out fans.

1130
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Is there a place to go in fancied. They should

1131
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: be going to just fans outa dot com Click everything

1132
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: is in sight, just click everything.

1133
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: House that hankbuilt dot com is our brave you gobsite.

1134
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: When I'm running about brave stuff, that is exactly where

1135
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: it's going to live. And if you are demented enough

1136
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: to want to follow the podres Astros, Brewers, Angels, a

1137
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: few others, a few other teams, you can find those

1138
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: team sites over on the fan Side network. I'm writing

1139
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: on basically all of them every single day. So uh,

1140
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: that's where you got. You're looking for brave stuff. House

1141
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: that Hank Belt Chasing Stephen. They run a good ship

1142
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: over there, and I yell at them occasionally just to

1143
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: let me write some things and you know, do different stuff.

1144
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Hey. Fun fact, if you're still listening to this podcast,

1145
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: the first sports running job I ever got was at

1146
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: Soaring Down South on fan Sided.

1147
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: So oh there it is. There it is.

1148
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: It's also where I met Carlos Glazo when Carlos and

1149
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: I ran at All Day together, which I think doesn'tn't

1150
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: exist anymore. It's the Atlanta local site at Fansided we

1151
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: ran together, met each other. Then turn it into too

1152
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: this podcast. You listen to you right now, long story, child,

1153
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: fancied origin story, grads, villa villain origin story. That's one

1154
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: hundred percent right. Well, thank you, Eric, I appreciate it. Man,

1155
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: we'll do it again. It's great to talk to you

1156
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: in this format, in any format. Really ask for everybody else.

1157
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: He doesn't talk to me anymore.

1158
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: Please subscribe to this podcast search had Turrets or anywhere

1159
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: you find podcasts Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Amazon Music, or else.

1160
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: On YouTube. If you want to look at Eric's shining face,

1161
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: we're on YouTube right now. If you're already watching, like

1162
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: the video on YouTube as well. Subscribe. Tell your friends

1163
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: I'll see you all next time.

1164
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: Bye,