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Speaker 1: In today's episode, we are looking at Spring TV. Can
Speaker 1: you believe it's already Spring? Guys, I don't know, the
Speaker 1: time is weird? And we're going to be talking about
Speaker 1: returning series, giving you a complete guide to that good
Speaker 1: old Spring is Sprung TV.
Speaker 3: Some series like Invincible, they're everyborn again. Ever heard of them?
Speaker 3: Guess what?
Speaker 1: They're both coming back a lot sooner than you might think.
Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about some series that are
Speaker 1: ending for good or at least in these forms with
Speaker 1: Euphoria and the Boys, and we'll be teasing some new
Speaker 1: series that we couldn't wait for, like Spider Noir and
Speaker 1: Star Wars.
Speaker 2: More Star Wars Ball. First up, let's get right into it.
Speaker 2: One Piece season two out now on Netflix.
Speaker 3: It's back, I Am Sorry.
Speaker 2: Season two, subtitled Into the Grand Line, is out now
Speaker 2: with some new casts including Uh, Everybody's Hot, Werewolf, Joe Mangiello,
Speaker 2: I really aging. I can Imaginelloello man Johnniello.
Speaker 1: I like the way that there's like that's to most
Speaker 1: young people now he's like the host of like I
Speaker 1: think deal or No Deal, but also like he's still
Speaker 1: that sexy well wolf Housie.
Speaker 3: I also he's also very good in Magic my exx out.
Speaker 3: I mean, the costing for this is a melchion.
Speaker 2: Katie sigal And and no, no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really fun. I love this season.
Speaker 1: We also have Tony Tony Chopper kind of perfectly inserted
Speaker 1: into the season here, which was the big question. Would
Speaker 1: they be able to bring to life the cutest character
Speaker 1: from the one piece crew.
Speaker 3: They definitely have.
Speaker 1: The first season, I was a huge fan of everybody
Speaker 1: knows that. I kind of think it's the first great
Speaker 1: American anime adaptation to live action.
Speaker 3: But the second reason, the only one that works. This
Speaker 3: one is better.
Speaker 1: This one is better, Jason, if you can believe it,
Speaker 1: the effect of better the casting is incredible. We've got
Speaker 1: so many new characters, so many new powers. There are
Speaker 1: also some really interesting changes from the anime when it
Speaker 1: comes to the order of reveals. Some stuff that gets
Speaker 1: longed out a lot more because of the nature of
Speaker 1: the anime having a thousand episodes it have been revealed
Speaker 1: in season two, but actually it works really well. We
Speaker 1: also get more incredible loofy action. Lufy was previously kind
Speaker 1: of seen as like one of anime's greatest hymbos, but
Speaker 1: this show has really kind of expanded him out as
Speaker 1: more of a thoughtful dreamer and somebody who just loves
Speaker 1: to after their dreams and hope and found family and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So the reviews are crazy, the show
Speaker 1: is incredible, and yeah, it's just a really really really
Speaker 1: good show.
Speaker 3: Watch watch it up.
Speaker 2: And again, the live action anime curse is real except
Speaker 2: for One Piece, right, And also, can I just say
Speaker 2: you cowboy Bebop for the Lesbie all failed to catch on.
Speaker 3: It's true, but this one works. And also not just that, guys.
Speaker 1: I wrote an article when the first season came out
Speaker 1: at IgM with my incredible editor Ami the Emboweing wh
Speaker 1: used to be there, about how the show had already
Speaker 1: solved Marvel's biggest problem, which is Lufy's powers are very
Speaker 1: similar to Read Richard's and in season one of One Piece,
Speaker 1: they did this great gag with kind of how much
Speaker 1: pressure and power and speed and it made it feel
Speaker 1: so much better, and I was like, just copy this
Speaker 1: for Fantastic four, and they did it, And so One
Speaker 1: Piece now officially has Fantastic four read stretching powers than
Speaker 1: the official MCU Fantastic four. So for our audience, go
Speaker 1: watch it for that. But yeah, I just I thought
Speaker 1: this was so good. I know it's only short seasons,
Speaker 1: it's the Netflix model, but I do think they managed
Speaker 1: to get this made pretty quickly for.
Speaker 3: The qualities of the show.
Speaker 2: Next up Invincible season four. The world is recovering from
Speaker 2: global catastrophe, including the marketting his ass beat all over
Speaker 2: the world. This series, creator creator of the of the
Speaker 2: comic Robert Kirkman, is going to be the season that
Speaker 2: adapts the Viltromite War artat which is, you know, the
Speaker 2: biggest the biggest conflict in the comics version of this story.
Speaker 2: It's this is a show that came out absolutely gangbusters,
Speaker 2: then kind of it'd be interesting to try and pinpoint
Speaker 2: why exactly it kind of wobbled, but now is looking
Speaker 2: to get back pace with a lot of action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really interested to see if they can land
Speaker 1: this season. There's been a lot of issues with the
Speaker 1: release schedule that caused problems. There's issues with the way
Speaker 1: the show was rolled out, but this is getting some
Speaker 1: of the craziest stuff if they can keep that animation
Speaker 1: level high. We're also going to get new villains, like
Speaker 1: a fan favor villain, Dinosaurus of course love that name.
Speaker 3: Also unbelievable cast.
Speaker 1: Matthew Reiths is playing Dinosaurus and Thrag is being played
Speaker 1: by Lee Pace, which I somehow had missed. I literally
Speaker 1: did when I was in Japan recently. I went to
Speaker 1: a movie theater, which I always do every time I
Speaker 1: go to a different country. I end up going to
Speaker 1: this one called Yubisu Garden Theare and it was showing
Speaker 1: The Fall, very underrated movie that we talk about a
Speaker 1: lot bitearsm starring Lee.
Speaker 3: Pace, and that man is a star.
Speaker 1: Just put him in everything like that movie's like twenty
Speaker 1: years old, and I was still just like, what a star.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm very interested to see how dark
Speaker 1: they go with this, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna need to Balanark in the comics marks
Speaker 2: kind of charming.
Speaker 1: Wholesome boy next door us with a bit more of
Speaker 1: this brutality.
Speaker 3: I think we need a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of hope right now. I'm hoping that they go a
Speaker 1: little bit more balanced. I like what they've done by
Speaker 1: expanding his mom's role, by expanding his connection to his mom.
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that we get a little bit more
Speaker 1: of that duality, that kind of heart and comedy that
Speaker 1: a Seth Rogan project can bring.
Speaker 3: Because it is gonna.
Speaker 2: Be very brutal, I'm gonna put it out there that
Speaker 2: we're not gonna get that. Kirkman is on Reppers saying
Speaker 2: that this is the point in the story. The Vulturemite
Speaker 2: War is the point of the story where Mark's coming
Speaker 2: of age story ends. He stops the process of growing
Speaker 2: up from this naive ashucks boy and becomes a different
Speaker 2: kind of guy. In the comics, the war resolves with
Speaker 2: like a pretty ruthless compromise. I would say from that,
Speaker 2: Mark grise too. So uh, no spoilers, but just I
Speaker 2: don't I think if this is the season where you're
Speaker 2: hoping to get some of that, like nice boy Mark back,
Speaker 2: I don't know it's gonna happen. What do you think,
Speaker 2: because I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think you're bright. I think you're bright.
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like right now we're living
Speaker 1: in a time where I know. I just I just
Speaker 1: really when I know something bleak is coming, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to watch it, like I and
Speaker 1: I do. I really hope Vinci will comes back, Like
Speaker 1: how crazy.
Speaker 3: Was that first season? We were also hyped on it.
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm kind of so looking forward to
Speaker 1: not Spring TV, so we'll not be getting into it
Speaker 1: more right now, but we'll be talking about it obviously
Speaker 1: a lot later. I'm just really excited for into the
Speaker 1: Vampire season three because like it's gonna be such petty
Speaker 1: mess and there's gonna be musical, and there's gonna be
Speaker 1: you know, defamation claims, and there's gonna be like gossip magazines.
Speaker 1: Like that's what I need. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: need to see like an entire planet get wiped out.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of yeah, I'm over that pot. But you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm sure the animation will be incredible and
Speaker 1: Steve will be killing it on those voice acting mark
Speaker 1: and the saddest moments of his life.
Speaker 3: So we love SAP boy, Steve and Ywedz. It's okay.
Speaker 2: Next up, debuting March twenty fourth, Dared Devil Born Again
Speaker 2: Season two. Here's the official synopsis. Mayor Wilson fist crushes
Speaker 2: New York City underfoot as he hunts down public again,
Speaker 2: I mean number one, the Hell's Kitchen vigilandi known as Daredevil,
Speaker 2: but beneath the horned mask, Matt Murdock, We'll try to
Speaker 2: fight back from the shadows, to tear down the Kingpins,
Speaker 2: corrupt empire, and redeem his robe, Resist, rebel, rebuild, and
Speaker 2: of course, this season will feature the triumphant return of
Speaker 2: one Jessica Jones to the streets of.
Speaker 3: See Crazy times. Guys.
Speaker 1: I never thought that they would bring Jessica Jones into
Speaker 1: the MCU, because then they have to make it canon
Speaker 1: how much fucking happens in the MCU, because that show
Speaker 1: and the comic as we will get into. You know,
Speaker 1: Jessica Jon's special that we will be doing is so
Speaker 1: full of sex, so full of like explicit, hardcore powder
Speaker 1: pound fucking. It makes me laugh so much that they're
Speaker 1: bringing her in. We love her, Kristen Ritt as an icon.
Speaker 1: The writing in that show is surprisingly holds up on
Speaker 1: the most part, and yeah, there are some choices I
Speaker 1: don't love, but I'm very excited to see her back.
Speaker 1: I'm very sad though that she will not be on
Speaker 1: screen with John burn Thora's Punisher, because I think that
Speaker 1: is the ultimate team up.
Speaker 3: I want to see that those two together would be
Speaker 3: so great.
Speaker 2: Question is Jessica Matt's love interest in this show, and
Speaker 2: does that mean that Matt will soon be casting aside
Speaker 2: his love interest doctor Heather Glenn.
Speaker 1: I think that it's gonna be a little love quadruple
Speaker 1: because I do think Eva Glenn obviously still involved, though
Speaker 1: that's going to be compromised by her connection to Kingpin
Speaker 1: and obviously her connection is.
Speaker 2: She's a pre employee.
Speaker 1: And I also think that they were hinting towards some
Speaker 1: kind of Karen reconnection obviously end of that season. I
Speaker 1: also do think though Jessica represents kind of the women
Speaker 1: that Matt usually actually really falls for, which are these
Speaker 1: women who are like very troubled, very violent, think about
Speaker 1: your electras, even your she hulks, you know, even these
Speaker 1: are the women that he usually finds a lot of
Speaker 1: kinship with.
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 1: And also if you remember, like when I was rewatching
Speaker 1: Jessica Jones recently, I was thinking a lot about how
Speaker 1: pretty much all of the outside MCU world building at
Speaker 1: that point was done.
Speaker 3: In these shows.
Speaker 1: So there is this deep connection between Matt and Chris
Speaker 1: and Jessica and this kind of notion of like the
Speaker 1: outsider superheroes, the superheroes who live on the edge. So
Speaker 1: I think this could be a really good place bringing
Speaker 1: her back to start rebuilding that, especially because the first
Speaker 1: season of her show has a lot of ante Superherwer
Speaker 1: sentiment in it. So I wonder if they're gonna yeah
Speaker 1: that's that.
Speaker 2: That's something that really stuck out to me on rewatch
Speaker 2: this weekend is there's a lot of pegs there that
Speaker 2: they can hang future plots regarding, uh, you know, regarding
Speaker 2: the imprisonment of superpowered people, regarding the kind of general
Speaker 2: sentiment on the street about people with powers, regard you know,
Speaker 2: there's like a human supremacist plot line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of stuff that they can use
Speaker 2: to kind of pivot to mutants or whatever the kind
Speaker 2: of de facto current state of affairs is in the
Speaker 2: MCU post doomsday. I wonder if Listen has been lurking around,
Speaker 2: Jessica Jones is here, We're gonna at Lucah. Are you
Speaker 2: getting get aren't.
Speaker 1: The big questions because I do think pretty likely to
Speaker 1: get I wish Punisher would be that rip to my
Speaker 1: guy right now. He's not dead, but he's just dead
Speaker 1: in this project. He couldn't do the screening, he couldn't
Speaker 1: film for this because he's filming the Punisher special, which
Speaker 1: we assume will come out after Spider Man Brand New Day.
Speaker 3: So what do we think is gonna happen?
Speaker 1: I think that the likelihood of Luke Cage is very high.
Speaker 3: Oh, b I think that's very high. The chemistry between.
Speaker 1: Mike and Kristin in that first season is so well done,
Speaker 1: and they have such such good banter, so well written. Obviously,
Speaker 1: there is a lot of tragedy between those two characters,
Speaker 1: but I do I think that in the MCU there
Speaker 1: is a version where guys, if you didn't know this,
Speaker 1: and we will get into this more in our Jessica
Speaker 1: Jones episode. But Jessica and Luke's relationship is a long
Speaker 1: term relationship. They have kids, they have connections to a
Speaker 1: lot more fun, youthful kind of stories. So I think
Speaker 1: a Luke Cage appearance in either this season of Dead
Speaker 1: of a Born Again or whatever we may get later
Speaker 1: feels likely. Nas I don't know if he's getting another chance, Like,
Speaker 1: I think, if anything, it will be like Danny Rand's
Speaker 1: mayor he sucks after Kingpin or something, and it'll be
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't think he's getting it.
Speaker 3: But do I want Colleen Wing to come back?
Speaker 1: Thank you Aaron, Yes, Jessica Henwick exactly, We're on the
Speaker 1: same page. I think she should be iron fisted. Also,
Speaker 1: we never got the true Daughters of the Dragon team
Speaker 1: up with her a misty night. I think what we've
Speaker 1: seen from the MCU is they're kind of taking a
Speaker 1: Dave Feloney approach where they just take what they like
Speaker 1: from the past and leave other stuff behind. So I'm
Speaker 1: very interested. Jason, what are your odds? How long does
Speaker 1: Heather Glenn stay either alive or Matt Maddock's girlfriend in
Speaker 1: this season? Like?
Speaker 3: Is she getting ice straight away? No?
Speaker 2: I don't. I feel like they will break up. Yes,
Speaker 2: I mean it can't. They can't go on like this.
Speaker 2: There's just too many things here in the park. They
Speaker 2: will break up and Heather will become this is my
Speaker 2: she will live and become one of Derda those most
Speaker 2: implacable enemies. Oh.
Speaker 3: I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: That's I think that's really good, Like all the wanted
Speaker 1: posters all around, and she's out there next to Wilson, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a danger about dream Like how mentally.
Speaker 2: Are so bad?
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I love that. I think you're definitely right.
Speaker 3: I think that's how this few do.
Speaker 2: Let's go to concluding series. Now, these are the final
Speaker 2: seasons of some long running and beloved shows, starting with
Speaker 2: historical time travel multiverse drama romance drama Outlander coming to
Speaker 2: an end after eight seasons. Why the Revolutionary War ives
Speaker 2: at the door of the Jamie and Claire International intrigue happens,
Speaker 2: there will be devastating personal costs, and what happens next, well,
Speaker 2: don't worry, there's a spinoff if you really need it.
Speaker 1: They'll be having sex with the versions of the ancestors.
Speaker 2: Yes, but this is a show that lovers of historical
Speaker 2: fantasy and like the the intersection of romance historical fiction
Speaker 2: kind of like soft fantasy and mild sci fi have
Speaker 2: been absolutely eating up. The adaptation of Diana Galbadon's best
Speaker 2: selling series.
Speaker 3: By Ronald D.
Speaker 1: Moot. You know, so, I will say this is one
Speaker 1: of my highest.
Speaker 2: Exists in the in the in the in the.
Speaker 3: Why did I just like universe?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why what if it exists in the forming kind of
Speaker 2: like of it?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, stuff, I would die. That would be
Speaker 3: so good. This is one of the craziest shows ever.
Speaker 1: If you've never watched it, I will say is a
Speaker 1: high sexual assault rate show in the first three seasons
Speaker 1: because it was very much in that Game of Thrones time.
Speaker 1: But I will say, guys, this is my highest success rate.
Speaker 1: For people who watch Game of Thrones and say to me, oh,
Speaker 1: what should I watch next, A lot of them actually
Speaker 1: stick with Outlander Now. It is a got more of
Speaker 1: a romance trapping, but when it comes to kind of
Speaker 1: like actual directly inspired by historical events, like you can
Speaker 1: read books about them, you.
Speaker 3: Can dig into them. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Rundy Moore is like a crazy storytelling world building guy.
Speaker 1: This show has been on yeah, like start Star Trekking, Like,
Speaker 1: there's there's stuff that in this show that has been
Speaker 1: going on longer than I have been doing my journalism career.
Speaker 1: I met people who were already seasoned Outlander reporters on
Speaker 1: like my first set visit, so it's kind of crazy
Speaker 1: this is coming to an end.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they're.
Speaker 1: Going the they're going the supernatural route, though I'm assuming
Speaker 1: they will hope it will be more successful than that's
Speaker 1: been off where I believe this is about the parents
Speaker 1: of these characters.
Speaker 2: Now, word is on the streets that roaldy Moore has
Speaker 2: had the production film multiple finales in order to protect
Speaker 2: the show from leaks.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: That's old schools type, very old school. I love that
Speaker 2: last shit.
Speaker 1: I love him on a game of phone show him
Speaker 1: and George massa beef, because otherwise I don't know how
Speaker 1: that hasn't happened yet. Like the two of them have
Speaker 1: such incredible scale and scope and this balance between character
Speaker 1: and these epic stories. I would love to see that,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what it would be. Maybe like
Speaker 1: a completely just only dragons. It would have to be
Speaker 1: something really out there.
Speaker 3: I feel like Ron likes a he likes a concept.
Speaker 2: Next up, Oh, debuting April eighth. It is the final
Speaker 2: and fifth season of The Boys. Homelands is in control
Speaker 2: of the us MM and FRENCHI are in Freedom Camps,
Speaker 2: any Starlight building the Resistance. Camiko's missing butcher has a
Speaker 2: super killing supervirus and is willing to use it. And
Speaker 2: your favorites from Gen V have been confirmed to be
Speaker 2: joining the cast as the resistance to Homelander starts to congeal.
Speaker 2: Has it gone on a little too long?
Speaker 3: Mayby?
Speaker 2: It has with the Homelander thing, But I'm glad to
Speaker 2: see it finally coming to fruition.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean final.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jason, who are your top bets for the person
Speaker 1: who's gonna kill Home?
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be. I think it's going
Speaker 2: to take all of them. I agree, by all of them,
Speaker 2: I mean I mean Soldier Boy, I mean are our
Speaker 2: gen V cast, Yeah, I mean everybody.
Speaker 1: I think even Yes, Son, I think so too.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a collaborative effort.
Speaker 2: Uh will be this will this is gonna be interesting. Now,
Speaker 2: I wonder where does he die? Mm hmm if he
Speaker 2: does die, which you gotta kill him at this point,
Speaker 2: but is it, like, is it the penultimate episode? Is
Speaker 2: it the finale? Do you do it? That's to me
Speaker 2: the only surprise I can really hate you exactly where
Speaker 2: does it happen?
Speaker 1: If they do something really brave like killing him in
Speaker 1: the first episode, I will be like super into it,
Speaker 1: Like I just want you to know, Eric Kripkey, I
Speaker 1: will be.
Speaker 3: Behind that decision.
Speaker 1: I would love some kind of like Rasherman esque, like
Speaker 1: you kill him at the beginning, and then you go
Speaker 1: back and you show how it happened, like a why
Speaker 1: done it? And I think that could be interesting, But realistically,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be penultimate or finale.
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Obviously Marie is going to play a part, but I
Speaker 1: think that Marie around. We know GENV has not been
Speaker 1: picked up for season three yet, but as everyone knows,
Speaker 1: I love that show. I have to say, from what
Speaker 1: we've seen of the trailers for season five of The Boys,
Speaker 1: the final season of The Boys, I it is looking
Speaker 1: way more interesting to me than it has for a
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. So I'm kind of hoping that the
Speaker 1: energy is going to be back and we can get
Speaker 1: a little bit of motion. That means that people are
Speaker 1: gonna want to see more of these characters. But I
Speaker 1: really think the most interesting thing is this show kind
Speaker 1: of fits into the conversation we were having a lot last
Speaker 1: year about text and subtext and how do you make
Speaker 1: a show that used to be prescient but now it's
Speaker 1: like you're doing stuff that's ahead of the game, but
Speaker 1: you still kind of feel behind. It's gonna be really
Speaker 1: interesting to see what they can do with the Homelander thing.
Speaker 1: He was always meant to be this kind of Trump analogy,
Speaker 1: but we're living in these crazier times now. They're doing
Speaker 1: camps in the show, Like, are they gonna be able
Speaker 1: to pull it off?
Speaker 3: What's gonna be going on in you know, a month
Speaker 3: when this show comes out. We don't know, We don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm interested who survives.
Speaker 1: I think pretty much all of the boys are probably
Speaker 1: gonna die.
Speaker 3: I would love Kamiko to survive.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think you get one of.
Speaker 3: Exactly. I'm hoping it's Kamiko.
Speaker 1: I think also there's a world where mother's milk survibes,
Speaker 1: where he ends up getting to be happy and have
Speaker 1: like a civilian life, just raises kids.
Speaker 3: Finally, I think that would be great.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think we probably get like Marie and
Speaker 1: then I love all of the gen v kids, But
Speaker 1: I think realistically, if they're going to save one, it's
Speaker 1: going to be Marie because she's very OPI. But also
Speaker 1: I think we could see something where Marie and Cipher
Speaker 1: survive the evil Headmaster and then it's like you get
Speaker 1: the new villain and the new hero or you know,
Speaker 1: they keep most of the gen V kids alive. But
Speaker 1: it's very easy to basically turn Marie into the world's
Speaker 1: most hated character after she kills gen V and after
Speaker 1: she kills Homeland, and then Bor goes, wait, no, we
Speaker 1: didn't want you to do this. You're a bad person,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I think that could be really interesting.
Speaker 2: I like that. I think Marie lives. I think Hue
Speaker 2: and Annie are You're happy ending. I think either Frenchy
Speaker 2: or comikode. And I think the joke at the end
Speaker 2: is that the Deep lives, the Deep walks away.
Speaker 1: That's really yes, I was gonna say, I do think
Speaker 1: that is a good one. I was gonna say, he's
Speaker 1: just so awful that you and he's going to be
Speaker 1: like on every news show for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: Talking about okay, Joelle, a super producer, obviously made a
Speaker 1: really good point where she was like, in the way
Speaker 1: that comics are right now, we have Batman like just
Speaker 1: kicking Nazi like kicking you know, Nazi's asses. We have
Speaker 1: like the absolute Universe, which is kind of this very dark,
Speaker 1: what if the nightmarish kind of despair of dark Side
Speaker 1: was at the heart of DC instead of the beloved
Speaker 1: life of Superman. We know that, you know, Marvel just
Speaker 1: ended old obviously going to kick something else off. How
Speaker 1: does the something like The Boys like stay relevant.
Speaker 3: Even with a GMB like?
Speaker 1: What comics are so different now that the things that
Speaker 1: satirizing are done? So what does the next thing like
Speaker 1: The Boys? Not even the Boys? What does the next
Speaker 1: superhero satire look like?
Speaker 2: I don't know because I think the truth is that
Speaker 2: it's season one and two of The Boys is kind
Speaker 2: of the perfect superhero satire and where they kind of
Speaker 2: messed up is you know, it's a trap, right because
Speaker 2: you're you're criticizing superhero tropes and you're satirizing and parodying
Speaker 2: superhero characters. But when your show becomes successful, then you
Speaker 2: are actually becoming a show about the problem.
Speaker 1: Right, So you satirize horror, but then you become the
Speaker 1: staple of horror.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: What do you do? And I think, you know, if
Speaker 2: another cutting critique of the kind of superhero genre comes around,
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it has the the kind of like
Speaker 2: ruthlessness to do what The Boys didn't do, which is
Speaker 2: follow it through to its conclusion and have people die
Speaker 2: and leave and don't get addicted to characters for whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, reason, Like, it's got to feel like it's
Speaker 2: got to be more of a kind of like Game
Speaker 2: of Thrones approach, you know, season one through five Game
Speaker 2: of Thrones, where you're like, I don't know who could die,
Speaker 2: anybody could die at anytime, Whereas it felt like The
Speaker 2: Boys was that for a while, and then it just
Speaker 2: turned out that actually, no, h the one character that
Speaker 2: this whole thing is about has the most protective plot
Speaker 2: armor around them literally, So I'm just hoping that, you know,
Speaker 2: if it if they somebody catches lightning in a bottle again,
Speaker 2: they managed to avoid that trap where you then become
Speaker 2: the show about the thing that you were making fun of.
Speaker 2: Up next, Euphoria Season three. Euphoria Season three, Dave April.
Speaker 2: The season log line is the virtue of faith, the
Speaker 2: possibility of redemption, and the problem of evil. Zimmer is
Speaker 2: the compost well, the Hans Zimmer collective. How much mister
Speaker 2: Zimmer himself was Yes, joins as the composer of note
Speaker 2: this season, and well, it's been a long time. I
Speaker 2: think we're all wondering, like how this could possibly end.
Speaker 2: This is a show that even if you hated it,
Speaker 2: and I kind of hated it for most of it,
Speaker 2: it still kind of had to watch, even though you
Speaker 2: were watching like through your hands. I can't wait to
Speaker 2: see how this goes. There's been a lot of changes,
Speaker 2: including several notable cast members passing away, including Eric Dane
Speaker 2: from Als. Although he apparently.
Speaker 1: Did shoot his see they apparently did manage to get
Speaker 1: his scenes in there. I see Angus Cloud, obviously Angus
Speaker 1: Cloud who died tragically by suicide.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see how this goes. Everybody is
Speaker 2: completely different type of public persona. Now Sidney Sweeney has
Speaker 2: gone from a like an ascendant star to a star
Speaker 2: to like a right wing icon. It is a lot
Speaker 2: of changes. I can't imagine where this will go. And
Speaker 2: then you know, showrunner Levinson has had a lot of
Speaker 2: criticism about himself. He's had a notable bomb the show happened,
Speaker 2: that was the TikTok behind the scenes stories about that
Speaker 2: production were more entertaining than the show itself. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a lot hanging on this one. Where's it gonna I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: I think you're right, it's a really unique situation.
Speaker 1: Also, I think it's one of our biggest contemporary foll
Speaker 1: offs since kind of the because when that first season
Speaker 1: came out, whether you liked it you didn't like it,
Speaker 1: whether you knew about it, whether you knew it was
Speaker 1: a sequel, I mean, a remake, whether you knew whatever
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 3: Or didn't know, you knew it was a hit, right
Speaker 3: you knew.
Speaker 1: Everyone was talking it. It was being compared to shows
Speaker 1: like Skins. It was being compared to.
Speaker 3: These like huge how dare they?
Speaker 1: Honestly, but it was compared to these huge cultural moments.
Speaker 3: It was you know, risque.
Speaker 1: It was using all the things that HBO knew it
Speaker 1: could do, like nudity, and.
Speaker 3: It started a conversation.
Speaker 1: And I was somebody who struggled to watch the show
Speaker 1: due to having you know, nobody's life is actually like euphoria.
Speaker 1: But I partied a lot when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and I had terrible time at school, so.
Speaker 3: It wasn't fun for me. But I loved reading everybody's takes.
Speaker 1: I loved reading all the recaps, and obviously I would
Speaker 1: watch long and read people as they as I was watching,
Speaker 1: And it is kind of crazy to me how this
Speaker 1: went from probably the most anticipated show of HBO's roster
Speaker 1: when season two ended, because of the ending and having this,
Speaker 1: you know, that beautiful story between Angus Cloud and more
Speaker 1: Abbatoo that was really starting to you know, work and happen,
Speaker 1: and they really seem to have gotten something. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: got Zendaya, youngest Emmy winner of all time, the legend,
Speaker 1: the Powerhouse. Now she's a wife. She's grown up enough
Speaker 1: to be married now, guys, and so I am interested
Speaker 1: to see. I think at this point Rolex commercial, the
Speaker 1: aus commercial, like casual, so like. I think this is
Speaker 1: a contractual obligation for many, And that's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say.
Speaker 2: I think if they weren't listen, obviously you need in
Speaker 2: the entertained business, the lifeblood of it is contract.
Speaker 3: But if there were no if.
Speaker 2: They were not contractually obliged to return, I have the
Speaker 2: sinking feeling that very few of them between.
Speaker 1: Is probably the only one who's signing up like a choice,
Speaker 1: because look at this, Jacob and Lordie are talking.
Speaker 3: We love him.
Speaker 1: He's so thoughtful, he's brilliant. He did Frankenstein, he was nominated.
Speaker 1: He's managed to leave.
Speaker 3: This Nate Jacobs behind him.
Speaker 1: Nate Jacob's notoriously like the most toxic boyfriend on TV,
Speaker 1: and it is like he has done such a good job,
Speaker 1: almost a Robert Pattinson level job of breaking out, choosing
Speaker 1: different roles, being a different kind of guy, and I
Speaker 1: feel sad for him that he has to come back.
Speaker 1: I guess him and Cassie are going to be engaged.
Speaker 1: Now Jules is in art school. We're going to have
Speaker 1: Maddie the Legend, the Queen working at a Hollywood talent agency. Okay,
Speaker 1: Sam Levinson, we get it. You're on NEPO, baby, these people,
Speaker 1: these are not jobs people.
Speaker 3: Get out of high school.
Speaker 1: Next, he's working as an assistant to a showrunner, as
Speaker 1: if played by well probably realistic to mord Abuto, but
Speaker 1: by Sharon Stone, which I love the idea of. But yeah,
Speaker 1: some great last minute goss guys. Apparently Sidney Sweeney and
Speaker 1: Zendaya on not talking, and Sidney Sweeney was notably absent
Speaker 1: from a photo shoot featuring the rest of the female leads.
Speaker 1: So if you love women, I guess get that copy,
Speaker 1: not if you love Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 3: But yeah, sounds like drama. I'm still kind of shocked
Speaker 3: it got made at all.
Speaker 2: I am, But yeah, I think I think HBO was like,
Speaker 2: you're fucking doing this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll destroying you. You're never gonna walk again.
Speaker 1: After the fucking Idle, which we had to cut by
Speaker 1: ten episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the amount of of of effort we had to
Speaker 2: put into promoting that piece of ship you were making
Speaker 2: this show.
Speaker 3: It's over.
Speaker 2: It's over, buddy. We give you, We gave you full
Speaker 2: creative control, and that's what you did up next tax
Speaker 2: season five brilliantly. No official premiere date yet, but this
Speaker 2: is it the of the the final go around. Uh
Speaker 2: And no official word yet on whether they'll be spin off.
Speaker 2: So though I have heard through the gripine you heard
Speaker 2: it here first that HBO has been looking at different
Speaker 2: ways they can spin off the show.
Speaker 1: Understandable because like what a show and also just an
Speaker 1: organic word of mouth hit based on how incredibly well
Speaker 1: the show has written, the characters that we love, and
Speaker 1: obviously Hannah winning an Emmy this year and how incredible
Speaker 1: speech and very interesting to.
Speaker 2: See what will Deprivance and Able to start this season
Speaker 2: as enemies or friends? Will they end it as enemies
Speaker 2: or friends in the final season? Max whenever it premierees.
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a veray. We don't know when we got Wait,
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 2: we're back a notable series.
Speaker 3: Bro, this is such a bloss from the past. The
Speaker 3: fact that this is getting made, I can't even believe it.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of these new and notable series,
Speaker 2: starting with Guy Ritchie. He's back on your TV screens
Speaker 2: and does he love a British tough guy? Yes, he
Speaker 2: loves a British tough guy. He's back here with Young Sherlock,
Speaker 2: which actually came out on March fourth, I had on
Speaker 2: my list of things to watch. It doesn't have started yet,
Speaker 2: but it stars Joseph Fiones, Max Irons, Colin Firth. Eight
Speaker 2: episodes based on Andrew Lane's Young Sherlock Holmes book series,
Speaker 2: which features a young Sherlock in college, solving his first crime,
Speaker 2: his kind of budding rivalry with Moriarty. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: Reviews are pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly this is like very exciting for me
Speaker 1: because I love a young like I love the Young
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones movies. I still watch them. Obviously loved with
Speaker 1: the Phoenix as Young Indiana Jones. I enjoyed the Guy
Speaker 1: Richie Charlotte Holmes movies.
Speaker 3: Very silly. This is in that same space.
Speaker 2: Very silly. The first one was the first one.
Speaker 3: Was good, and this is in It's in that same canon.
Speaker 1: But here we have hero Tiffins Fines, hilariously rich person
Speaker 1: neper baby name unbelievable who was actually very good though
Speaker 1: in I believe The Kingsman, the last The Kingsman pre
Speaker 1: Colin for another first another Colin Firth vehicle, and yeah,
Speaker 1: this looks really fun, really silly.
Speaker 3: The reviews are pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's also the cleverest, most clever thing, guys, you can do.
Speaker 1: If you're trying to sell a weird genre or old
Speaker 1: school style show that they might not buy on, make
Speaker 1: the first season a murder mystery. It always works. They
Speaker 1: did it with True Blood. That's how they got that
Speaker 1: insane show on the air. And here there is going
Speaker 1: to be a murder and they're going to have to
Speaker 1: solve it. Also, if you enjoy this, make sure you
Speaker 1: go back and watch on Netflix.
Speaker 3: There was a really, really, really great show.
Speaker 1: That was a Charlock hom spinoff called It was based
Speaker 1: on the Baker Street Irregulars, and it was just called
Speaker 1: the Irregulars, and it was a totally different take on
Speaker 1: the kind of young Sharlock idea. So fun and yeah,
Speaker 1: I love a little Ya show. So this looks this
Speaker 1: looks very fun.
Speaker 2: Up next, Star Wars Mall Shadow Lord debuts April sixth.
Speaker 2: It will drop two episodes a week, interesting, with the
Speaker 2: finale scheduled for Star Wars Day May. The fourth set
Speaker 2: approximately one year after the Clone Wars, so before rebels,
Speaker 2: Maul rebuilds his criminal syndicate on the planet Jenics. Described
Speaker 2: as one part Gotham, one part Metropolis. The Inquisitors and
Speaker 2: Marrack from Ahsoka season one are going to be featured
Speaker 2: and very interested to see this. This is This is
Speaker 2: I think one of the most in retrospect early controversial
Speaker 2: decisions by Dave Filoni that worked out from the.
Speaker 3: Storytelling aspect, Yes, the right correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, the rivalry between Obi Wan and Mal throughout the
Speaker 2: Clone Wars series was wonderful. They had like an incredible relationship.
Speaker 2: But there are still some Star Wars fans and I
Speaker 2: have some personal ones in my life. Then we'll tell
Speaker 2: you that the decision to not even resurrect he never
Speaker 2: technically died to bring it.
Speaker 3: Back with spotty legubs.
Speaker 2: He lived in a garbage dump and built spider legs.
Speaker 2: He never did but the but the decision to not
Speaker 2: kill mal is one I think that perplexes uh many
Speaker 2: a Star Wars fan of a certain generation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree, though, I will say I think
Speaker 1: that for kids who grew up on Clone Wars or
Speaker 1: even like the pre Course, being their first Star Wars,
Speaker 1: that was such an iconic character design and so cool.
Speaker 3: It definitely was.
Speaker 1: In that Bave Filoni space of like Boba Fair as
Speaker 1: we know, you know, the kind of idea of this
Speaker 1: Mandalorian is so enticing to the characters who grew up
Speaker 1: with it, the people who grew up with it you
Speaker 1: want to know more More is definitely that character. I'm
Speaker 1: really interested to see this. We also know that there's
Speaker 1: going to be a Ben Percy who's been doing all
Speaker 1: the Avengers, Alien Avengers, Predator stuff, Predat Versus Wolverine. He
Speaker 1: is actually writing a prequel comic mini series that's going
Speaker 1: to start coming out this month.
Speaker 3: Called Shadow of More.
Speaker 1: And I'm really interested because they also bought in a
Speaker 1: guy who is Matt Mikinovich, who's Star Wars Clone Warter's
Speaker 1: TV writer, So they're bringing back the crew.
Speaker 3: Sam Whittwer is going to be the voice again.
Speaker 1: Who's the guy has been voicing Also guys Jason's favorite
Speaker 1: and one of our high picks, though he did not
Speaker 1: win Congress to Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan, who we love to Wagnama. He's in the show.
Speaker 3: He's like a PI. He's like a Star Wars PI.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Dennis Haber as a master Jedi, Gideon
Speaker 1: Adlon as a young Jedi, and another incredible bit of
Speaker 1: casting here.
Speaker 3: Personally for me, Richard Iowaddy as a droid detective meant
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think this is going to have a
Speaker 1: potential to be a little bit of a slop and
Speaker 1: he especially with this kind of detective nowari p I
Speaker 1: vibe they're going for.
Speaker 3: I'm really interested in this. I love all this witch.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Mores like we'd brother or something,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to see a little bit you.
Speaker 2: Know, without looking, I knew Richard Auada was going to
Speaker 2: be a detective.
Speaker 3: Come on, That's what I'm saying. That's like without even
Speaker 3: he is a droid.
Speaker 2: Sam Whitwer had a very interesting comment. I believe it was.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: He definitely said it, but I'm the sourcing. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: a little unclear on but perhaps an easter egg for
Speaker 2: the direction of the show. Quote of Mal He's very
Speaker 2: angry at Palpatine. Everywhere he looks in the Empire, he
Speaker 2: sees Palpatine's hand.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, well, that sounds exciting to me personally,
Speaker 1: I'm very exciting.
Speaker 3: Could we see a little more, a little more.
Speaker 1: Turn around and guys, I just want to say, Sam Witwell,
Speaker 1: we want to shout you out again because this man
Speaker 1: has been working in Star Wars for so long.
Speaker 3: Do you even look back at Star Wars the fourth
Speaker 3: Unleashed video game?
Speaker 1: Guys, go play that and learn about Sam witwear in
Speaker 1: the way that this man has been keeping Star Wars
Speaker 1: going one man voice acting for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Him and d Bradley Breaker. We salute you, guys.
Speaker 2: Up next, Stranger Sings Tales from eighty five debus on
Speaker 2: Netflix of course, April twenty third. You thought it was over,
Speaker 2: and no we're not, and we're spinning this shit off
Speaker 2: in live action and animated. This is the animated series
Speaker 2: that will tell the stories of Eleven and Friends taking
Speaker 2: place between the events in season two and season three.
Speaker 2: Original cast members will not be returning. Sorry, they're done.
Speaker 2: Okaysually they're out of here.
Speaker 1: They are not getting a good contract to come back
Speaker 1: for that. Netflix said, we are not giving you that
Speaker 1: kind of money. But the cost is actually crazy because
Speaker 1: this is one hundred percent a show that I would
Speaker 1: not necessarily choose to watch, right. The rumor has it, guys, Look,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say this is true. I'm saying this
Speaker 1: is a rumor. You can google it. Rumor has it
Speaker 1: there was a tale, a Telltale game that was meant
Speaker 1: to come out called Stranger Things, Hey Tales from eighty five,
Speaker 1: and it looked very similar to this, and many people
Speaker 1: are wondering if this is that Telltale game turned into
Speaker 1: a TV show.
Speaker 3: So there's been lots of shenanigans. It's not necessarily something
Speaker 3: I would look to go to.
Speaker 1: But the cost includes lou Diamond Phillips and Jinny Garrafrio,
Speaker 1: but two of my all time favorites, and rising staff
Speaker 1: from underrated hell Raiser movie Odessa Azion, who also recently
Speaker 1: correctly gave up a role she shouldn't have been casting.
Speaker 3: So we like her. Goodbye to on the Run. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean this is like a surprisingly fantastic cast interview.
Speaker 1: I mean show runner Sean Levy, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: ever heard of him? That's Deadpool versus Wolverine, that's your
Speaker 1: you know that really fun movie with Ryan Reynolds. Guy,
Speaker 1: he's saving something, he's playing a game. It was so
Speaker 1: fun I can't remember it. But Sean Levy generally a
Speaker 1: fun guy. He's the showrunner, and he says, you're not
Speaker 1: getting a water down continuation of what you've watched and loved.
Speaker 1: You're getting a different tone, a different visual style. It's
Speaker 1: filling in blanks of mythology and a timeline that you've
Speaker 1: never gotten in what we call The Mothership, the original show.
Speaker 1: The Duffers loved a certain style of eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: all family audience animation and cartoons, and this show is
Speaker 1: made in the spirit of that. So it's not Stranger
Speaker 1: Things but animated. It's very much its own tone and style. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it sounds like they're trying to do a little bit
Speaker 1: of a clone Wars for Stranger Things.
Speaker 3: And why not?
Speaker 2: Why not? Indeed, why they're that Spider Noir debuting on
Speaker 2: Prime Video and MGM.
Speaker 4: Plus Oh wow, okay me twere very fascinating on Y
Speaker 4: twenty fifth, Folks, there are some comic book freaks out
Speaker 4: there who will tell you passionately that the best Spider
Speaker 4: person is Ben Riley.
Speaker 3: They will they will tell you say that and the.
Speaker 2: Scarlett's chatterkaa clone of Spider Man. And this series will
Speaker 2: follow the adventures of Ben Riley, a superpowered private dick
Speaker 2: in Manhattan who's doing all that private dick stuff in
Speaker 2: nineteen thirties Manhattan, but as a spider powered individual.
Speaker 3: And he loves killing Nazis.
Speaker 1: That's like his major character Trait's nothing wrong with them,
Speaker 1: not even wrong with that.
Speaker 3: It seems popular.
Speaker 1: This is also another absolutely stacked cost. You can really
Speaker 1: see that this is a casting just post the strikes
Speaker 1: and COVID where everyone really wanted a job.
Speaker 3: But also I'm hoping it also means the project is
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 1: But we have Lamar Morris, we have Leegion Lee, we
Speaker 1: have Jack Houston, Brendan Gleeson, Lucas Haas spite of us,
Speaker 1: a phil Lord, Christopher Miller, and Amy Pascal the Queen,
Speaker 1: the NonStop bangers. They can't get rid of her and
Speaker 1: all episodes are dropping at once.
Speaker 3: Now, this is very interesting to me. One, we know
Speaker 3: what that means.
Speaker 1: But also they're doing a double drop, one in authentic black.
Speaker 3: And white and one in true youful color.
Speaker 1: Now, I have to say, they release both the trailers
Speaker 1: and it does not look like a shitty black and
Speaker 1: white retro conversion.
Speaker 3: It looks completely.
Speaker 1: Different in black and white, the shadows, the shading, the highlights.
Speaker 1: So if they've really managed to do this, this could
Speaker 1: really extend that week of talk that we get when
Speaker 1: we watch a show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very very interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, folks, that's been your Spring TV look ahead. Stay
Speaker 2: tuned for X ray Vision. We're diving into Jessica Jones.
Speaker 2: She is back. We're going to be laying out her
Speaker 2: path to her return to the MCU and Daredevil Born Again.
Speaker 2: Season two was in her early years. Well, season's one Defenders,
Speaker 2: which I am a defender of. Jason would the whole
Speaker 2: good Jos Think that's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, Bye.
Speaker 2: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sepsion and Rosie
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Speaker 1: Our Executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 2: Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar.
Speaker 1: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dean, Jonathan and Bay Wack.
Speaker 2: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme
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