WEBVTT - Episode 303 w/ Twista 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:06.400 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:22.200 and I Heart Radio and his Drink chas motherfucking podcast. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.360 He's a legendary queen's rapper, he'saigree that's your boy Nor 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.240 he's a Miami hippop pioneer d J e f N. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.920 Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:38.199 in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:43.559 sorts for drunk drinks. Motherfucks New year Z. That's for 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:53.280 Drinking Champs. Trick up, motherfucker up. Would a good be 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.160 hoping he would should be? This your boy and o 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.560 R What up is d J e f N. This 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:05.080 drink has motherfucking yapia makes up right now. When we 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.680 talk about legends, you talk about the man who has 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:11.520 been consistent since the nineties, kept it out there, kept 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.800 it going. When I googled him, this was kind of crazy, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:20.720 today was, well, it was kind of crazy to today was. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.880 I didn't realize how many people you were beating with. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.160 I didn't realize. I was like, wow, like she just 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.480 kept leaving me the other ship and understand. But anyway, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.080 let's get back to I mean, the man is a 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.160 we can't call him a he's a super legend. You 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.040 know when you you could really say this, but when 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.560 you think of a city, you think of a man 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.240 that was there, like that's that's who. He's there, holding 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.440 down the whole city and just keep getting better and 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:54.200 better and better and better. And at first like was like, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:59.240 what's going on here? You realize he's saying ship it's 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.800 not you know, you know what I mean. It's in 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.800 case you don't know who what we're talking about. We're 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:11.280 talking about one the only motherfucker' twister Mason not twist. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.920 You literally got songs with everybody. Yeah, literally the Champagne. 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.120 It's the Champagne going we are looking crazy, man, you 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.800 know what I mean? You're so but you got songs 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.360 with everybody. Yeah, it's a bunch of people. Man. So 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.200 so what is that like you do like collaborating? Is 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.679 that something that's that's that's uh yeah, yeah, I love 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.400 collaborating one just off the top, just just you know, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.959 because it's it's my craft. I like doing it. But 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.880 the other thing too, is like you got a lot 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.799 of people that won't get on a song for a 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.720 particular reason or they might think it's or something like that. No, No, 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.080 I'm talking about like they're collaborating with with with somebody else. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.160 They might uh not want to do a song because 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.040 they don't like it. But me, like, I'll hear a 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.920 song and I'll find a way or reason to be 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.640 able to do it and still pull out of it 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.520 what I want to. So that's one of the reasons 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.760 I do a lot of collap bals. What's your favorite 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.480 collap was with rappers or R and B singers because 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:12.240 you got both equally? Oh that's a harbor. Probably probably 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.040 rapp Us, you know, you know, because I get to go, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.280 you know, back and forth with somebody and then a 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:18.679 lot of times you still have an R and B 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.919 singer on there too, So probably rapp Us. Okay, Okay, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.360 So let's take it back West side of Chicago, right, Yeah, 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:34.160 I got notes and ship Kate Town area. Yeah, let's 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.400 let's say let's take us to the Yeah, you Kate 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.240 Town area, and this is where you start, this is 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.000 where you developed because I heard you they said that 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.040 you learned it through a stereo. You was listening to 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.120 hip hop and you you felt like, what's the earliest 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.560 stuff you were here, the earliest stuff that inspired you. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.840 I mean really like listening to see I was on 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.680 the West side of Chicago, but we we had uh 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.080 h p K. This was a college radio station, JP 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.000 Chill on on the on the South side, and he 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.360 played a lot of hip hop and you know the Mecca, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.120 you know, New York. It was a lot of stuff 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.080 I was listening to as well as a bunch of 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.080 artists on the South side of Chicago, people like d 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.799 A Smart, a bunch of people doing anything. And uh 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.599 so that's how I really really got into it and 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:26.000 really got like advanced because I was able to hear 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.400 a lot of records that a lot of people wouldn't 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.159 have heard if JP Chill wasn't playing them joint so 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.160 so so I was just really the manager Eric de 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.960 Wiz right too, right, yeah, okay, And he worked for 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.440 the radio station. Yeah, he was working for the radio stations. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.760 And you took you do how like? Because like I 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.040 just asked Pat Poost this because he kind of got 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.800 on through K Slave and K Slave was working for 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.839 seven So I always thought that that was a plus 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.599 for Pat Poots. He was telling me that was a 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.200 negative because people always would be like, well, uk Slave, boy, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.520 you don't need my help. Yeah, I mean it definitely 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.560 was some hurdles in there, you know, it was from hurdles, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.440 but a lot of it was just being from from 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:06.160 the city, being from Chicago, new to the game, learning it, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.440 you know, not not really being accepted. It wasn't a 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.360 lot of Chicago hip hop artist gap. So we was new, 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.800 you know, coming from the city. You know, so like, 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.479 let let's go. Do you want to why the sea? 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.279 I think I think what we're going on? Like in 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.080 New York we see that ship, were like what the 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.200 man we was? We was around him a lot. Man 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:35.039 you had, you had Bishop Bishop, so him being from Chicago, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.840 we was coming outside. He was on Madison Street. We're 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.200 seeing him every day, you know, so him, a lot 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.120 of the guys around. You know. It was just the 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.200 vibe and then the music, you know what I mean. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:45.880 It was a lot of a lot with the music. 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.120 Then my man A K from dew or Die. He 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.000 was the one that you know, came to me with 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.960 the song like let's you know, like I want you 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.040 to jump on this song. So so it was just 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.160 the vibe that we was on at the time. You know, 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:03.440 you ever pimped, No, I ain't question you dry for 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.240 half an hour. It didn't work for half I ain't 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.200 got that one. Now. Trust we know you're in the 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.120 gun camp and all that, But today we want you 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.320 to know this is drink chance. This about we celebrate 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.000 our artists. It's about time you get your motherfucking flowers. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.440 You understand what I'm saying. We're gonna drink some champagne. Which, look, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.000 you just told us you play out at least at 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.520 least in your mind a little bit, right me too. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.000 Don't work for people. We're gonna celebrate you. We're gonna 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.240 drink up this goddamn champagne. You're gonna have some drinks 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.080 with me. Man, Come on that I might take one. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:33.839 Come on, come on now, come on. Oh you know 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.479 you know the day of the show is called drink camps. Right, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.160 let me pull you up, Let me pull you up. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.040 Come on, yeah, let me pull you up. So what 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.360 you've been up to? Man? Man? You already know. Man, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.800 just doing doing a lot of a lot of a 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.120 lot of instructing, a lot of shooting. You know, still 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.400 doing my music thing. You know, I got some businesses going, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.040 you know, still out here moving around and enjoying my life. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:03.880 You know, trying to uh, how you adapting to social media? Um? 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.159 It was crazy at first, I think for everybody, but 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.919 you know, I came along. I think I think, once 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.040 you really are passionate about something, you know, because people 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.760 you came from Chipler's circuit, like you know, like when 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.240 Nis like that was the real chip from you have 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.240 to you have to actually go to the clubs to 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.040 get these fans exactly, just go online and get these fans? 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.360 Are you cool with that? Is that take you to 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.520 your drink? So? I think it's uh, I think it's 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:38.120 come on, what's going on here? On? You adapt into? Um, 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.880 you're adapted into I think. Um. I think with with 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.640 early on like technology, you know, we couldn't get to it. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.960 So and then you had a few people, you know, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.880 you had a few artists. You ain't you didn't have 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.400 a lot of people to battle way, but it was 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.760 hard to get to the technology. But then I think 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.840 once we got to it, you had everybody doing it. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.520 So I think, you know, it's kind of hand in hand, 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.560 Like I don't think one way is harder than the other. 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.960 I think right now it's eating like it's easy to 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.280 promote yourself, but you gotta promote yourself next to the 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:11.000 person next to the person next to the person quarters 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:15.320 and ship too, right, you're this precious? Remember this who precious? No, 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:21.080 I wasn't mean man the actor. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.800 I remember the situation that happened. Yeah, what happened? You know, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.520 someone's going on with my social media. You know some 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.920 some some people was working with social media at the time, 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.600 and and uh got a little too loose with with 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.200 the fingers, you know, because you know that definitely ain't 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.520 my vibe, you know for sure, you know, and then 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.800 you know a lot of the true fans they already know. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.640 I don't know, that wasn't twisted. That wasn't twisted. So 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.160 you know, you know, my apologies to her too. I 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.600 did apologize, but yeah, that wasn't my vibes. Make some 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:51.480 noise for that. But let's let's go back. How did 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.480 you get into chopping? Like? What inspired you to start fast? 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.920 As you started rhyming? Um, you know you might have 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.960 different different names for it, but I just got into 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.840 it really just just early on. Want to switch up 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.240 the style a little bit, you know, everybody doing like 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.880 punchlines metaphors. I'm like, but I was like rhythmical with it, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.880 so I wanted to just do something different, So I 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.120 started just playing with the cadence and stuff like that. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.319 Then it would be like a spurt Head, then a 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.280 spurt Dad. And one day I just decided I want 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.200 to make a whole song like that. You know, you 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.640 start hearing other rappers doing what you're doing a little 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.679 bit too, you know, so I'm like, damn, okay, let 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.880 me make a whole verse like this, you know. So 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.960 then I made this verse called Mr. The Tongue Twister. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.720 Then that's when everybody's yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know, 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.120 then I just dropped the tongue calling twister. You know. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.040 So the other rappers they were young, You was tongue. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:53.079 Look at this dude, you know. Did you and the 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.480 dude from Nicks every battle. I don't know why I 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.120 keep feeling like I heard that. No we didn't. We 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.840 didn't actually battle, but me and him we had that 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.200 vibe like like he was spitting on his level, I 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.760 was spitting on my level. We saw each other that Uh. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.480 It was one of the one of I think it 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.959 was in San Francisco, one of the big conventions or 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.160 one of the things they had back in the days, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.480 and we saw each other and just yeah, chick foo. Yeah, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.400 but uh, you know, we caught that vibe, but we 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.400 ended up chopping it up, you know. So so we 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.400 never got a chance to do a record together, but 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.960 you know, we still probably end up doing something. But yeah, 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.440 chick foo, we we actually had a little fear for 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.200 each other. I was listening to that style. I was like, damn, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.360 let's killing it, and then he was listening to me, like, 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.880 surely killing you know. So we chopped it up about 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:38.800 that a little bit. That was fun. So let's just 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:45.000 be clear. M hm. With the first fastest tongue in 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:49.839 the world. Man, it's debatable, Man, it's debatable. Okay, I 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.040 feel like you're being too humble, so I'm gonna let 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.319 you say that. But why is it debatable? Let me 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.440 hear that you got people that feel other people started 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.160 like you know, you got you got some people feel 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.720 bone thugs and how many started it? Some people feel 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.560 treached on it? Then you got I can go back 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.800 further than that with records like uh, jay Z and 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.920 jazz O doing originators, records like that, LLL doing records 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.760 like why do you think they call it that was 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.640 that was almost two thousand. No, no, not nothing. It 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.280 was it was, it was, it was, it was. It 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:27.880 was pretty bad. Yeah, that's after. That's after. Yeah, no, 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:32.080 I don't no, it's wait further back now, Yeah, yeah, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.160 it goes back flavor. But that's not what he just said. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.520 He just said originators. That was what you think about 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.480 that record? Yeah, but no, but he's but he's talking 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.160 about probably when they didn't did it before. I just think, 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:44.960 you know, it was it was a time frame. I 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.120 think everybody was dabbling in it and everybody wanted to 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.280 claim it. You know, so this book of World Records 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.040 came and said this is that nigger. Yeah, that's what happened. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:12:00.400 You know, how did that feel? Like? What kind of 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.240 because you know, we like we're getting plaques and you 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.720 know what I mean, Like, but how did that feel? 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.880 When again it's the World Records called you, Like, who 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.560 gives you that call? Your manager? I was I was 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.520 on Loud Records at the time, you know, Loud Records 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.360 the Roster and uh it was Fade, my man Fade. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.240 He was there at the time, and he told me, man, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.840 you know what's this record? Uh? And again this book 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.440 for the for the world's fastest syllables and like, yeah, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.880 like five hundred some syllables in sixty seconds different ships. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.920 So I don't know what that technically mean. I just 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:37.640 know what some smart ship some fashion it was. But 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.560 you know it was like a gift to me. I'm like, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.680 oh ship, you know, it was the perfect promotion to 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.920 for me. So I got in there, you know, try 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.440 to see why I was that with it. You know, 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.240 I said, Okay, I'm gonna stop at six hundred syllables 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.120 in sixty seconds. So I was off about two syllables. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:58.960 But it was cool. Now did that Did that get 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.000 every other rapper who thought that they were fast? Or 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.400 for you? Or that made people want to challenge you more? Um, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.920 probably later on because the you know, nobody really broke 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.080 the record for a long time. Like by the time 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.440 somebody started messing with it, I was like out of 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.559 that with it. So so for a long time people 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.480 really respected and I think, you know, so the record, 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.600 I forgot the shorty name and one of them shorties. Yeah, 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.000 I don't know, man, I was I was on the 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.400 making records and doing other things about then, so so 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.520 and that's what I wanted. I actually wanted somebody to 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.160 come like I stopped that six hundred syllables because I 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.920 knew I could go further, but I stopped. Nobody never 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.480 challenged the record, so you know, I just wrote it 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.520 out and I got into making music. You know, now, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:51.080 how did so? I loved how you just said, um 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:55.440 when I asked you, uh, the inventors of this style? 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.160 You did say track you said, some people say the 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:03.439 tracks you said, some people say boom. Yeah, what if 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.400 you had to say? Because I want to talk about 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.920 you know, y'all discrepancies. Is me being honest with it, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.760 Me being honest with it, Like I said, you got 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.840 you got like like rapids developing at this time. You know, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.679 people people are getting more advanced with it, like playing 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.760 what they shoot a little bit. And I just think 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.360 I think it was growing everywhere early nights and I 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.320 think everybody was kind of playing with the style a 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.160 little bit and coming up with a way to switch 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.320 the cadence up. And I just think you had people 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:35.120 doing it and and and they respected areas, you know, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.760 whatever was that and you know, because we had Kanye 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.160 on here, and I think that's what he says said 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.600 that was the only difference between um jay Z and 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.760 nas is that jay Z knows how to chop and no, 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.240 not a chop. And I've really understand until I'm actually 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.840 going and I was like, oh, that's what y'all really 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.600 call it? So you did did, because yeah, you came 0:14:53.640 --> 0:15:04.640 out like yeah, yeah. And if they would say tretch, 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.320 then that means tretch tretching them was late eighties, right, 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.000 it really were. Remember they had the group before. I mean, 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.880 if you're counting the group before Naughty, there was a 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.960 group before. Yeah, they talked about it with us man 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.480 for god, what what what group you're talking about? They 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.600 had a group. They had a different name something. Somebody 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.040 pulled up a different name for the group before. It 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:30.640 was not by nature. And then then he said bones dogs. Yeah, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:32.600 I wouldn't bone would come out if you came out 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:38.920 ninety one. Bone came out, but I don't want I 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.080 think they came out ninety four, right, b Yeah, bone 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:46.840 was definitely ninety It had ninety four. Okay, So and 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.040 you was using that style on record in ninety one. Yeah, 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.440 I mean if you were talking about even Fushnikins, that's 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.800 way early nineties as well. That's what year was it? Wrong? 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:03.920 But what you say, Yeah, ninety two fushing against you. See, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.520 so if we're going by just google right now, you're 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:14.920 coming out nine one only one ninety two. I hadn't 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.800 heard that style until you came out. Well, you know, 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.480 I think I think, uh, I put a stamp on it. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.720 You know, I think I put my foot in it. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.480 You know, so you actually who invented it or that, 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.920 you know, you got different versions of it. I just 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.200 I might consider myself the Michael Jordan's version of it. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:42.200 But you know that. But but like you said, people 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.120 could have been doing it in their city wait before 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.880 anybody heard it. That's what kind of what you probably 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:54.520 was saying there when nobody would have known. Right now, Now, 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:01.040 what's the relationship with comment me in Comment? Not cool? 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.480 Like we don't talk a lot or anything. But when 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.080 we see each other, you know, we always chop it up, 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.720 you know, talk about a few things. Yeah, we're cool. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.400 We we just got a cool relationship. What's your relationship 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:16.200 with the young Drill music and shot town Man? It's 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.160 usually cool all the time. You know, somebody might call 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.199 me ump, you know, I got war Hall might call 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.280 me what up? You know, so so it's always uh, 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.200 it's always cool, man. You know. Sometimes they might ask 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.639 me certain things or for advice, but most of the 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.159 time they just look at me and call me O, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.359 G man, what up O? G what up O? You 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.520 don't want me to come to the studio sometime? Check 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.840 them out? Hop on a record or two here and there. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.280 You know, Yeah, stuff like that that makes some noise 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:46.159 for that now you was he was kicking it with 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.919 our Kelly for uple for a minute too. You were 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:59.040 kicking it. When you keep you we can do it 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:03.440 back on me easy. That literally got he got some records. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.640 And that's just you know, besides being funny. Um, there 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.479 wasn't nothing like that, but described to the people who 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:15.119 are was before we knew who are is? Man? That 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:19.080 was the man he was. He was the man like 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.600 like it was debatable who was who was the greatest 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.399 of all time? You might hear a lot of people 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.399 say a bunch of things, but when you start lining 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.600 them records up and what he put out and how 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:32.239 he was doing it, and the live performances and the 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.280 songs that he wrote for other people, stuff like that, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.600 like his body of work and what he was doing 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.160 and how much of a perfectionist he was and man, 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.240 he was like one of the greatest man you know, 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.360 and if you got a chance to work with him, 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.960 you know, you you felt solidified. You know, you felt 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:49.960 like you was in the game and you had to 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:51.480 get you know, you got you a shot if you 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.159 got a chance to work with r. Kelly, you know, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.680 especially for your city, because it was like to tell 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.639 you to too. But that was like the first artists 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.000 like to break out, like to be now act. Yeah, 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:02.640 he was, he was the man. He was the man 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:08.119 in the city. Man. We had a huge yeah for sure. Yeah, 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:09.920 but we can't make a noise for that because she's 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.720 gonna get real with me too, I'm gonna be talking 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:18.920 about because the career side, they can't make no noise 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:23.360 for that one right there. It's just a god damn 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.359 you brought it up. Hey man, listen, I listen, man, 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.119 because you're my friend. I still had to google and 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.639 do my due diligence that what's going on, you know 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:37.280 what I'm saying. So yeah, all right, let's go. You 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.480 also had you gotta record with Chris Brown. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.840 make a movie, make a movie. Uh just really wanted 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.480 them on the joint. Yeah, that was a joint. I 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.080 wanted them all like like me, my crew were just 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.560 mutually decided at the time. I forgot what record we 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.679 was listening to at the time, but we felt that 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:55.879 it was dope. If he's seen that particular record. You 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.359 know what I was. You know what I noticed about you. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.280 You make a lot of records for the feet else. 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.560 A lot of people don't know that because you're so lyrical. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.200 You gotta way with being super hip hop. Like all 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.560 the hip hop hip hoppers love you because you're a 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.480 hip hopper. But you you get away with stilling some 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.000 great singles. That's for the ladies and nobody cause you commercial. 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.560 I think, man, you gotta have that. You gotta have it. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:21.520 You know some some of the big artists, you know, 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.240 they're able to do that and it's nothing. They go 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.159 to their they go to their rap ship, they go 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.400 to that type of vibe. So so I just think 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.320 you gotta have it. That's one thing too. I think 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.080 it helps that my cadence is really like that whole 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.439 double time cadence is really an R and B or 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.400 slow song type of cadence. So I think that kind 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.880 of plays into it too, that you know, if I'm 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.680 rapping on a certain tempo. They fit on the same 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.600 melodies that people sing songs on. So a lot of 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.040 times that's how a lot of those features came about 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.080 to with with me doing and then just the songs 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.840 in general. That was like that. It was easy to 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.840 put like R and B artists and singles on certain hooks, 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:00.919 and you know, it was the vibe. Did you did 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.600 you ever question changing your style or did anybody ever 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.040 tell you, oh, this is already hell yeah old yeah 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:12.320 all the time? Yeah, shit like rapping fast yeah, you 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:15.360 know the first ship I heard, you know, because we 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.560 were from Chicago, so ain't nobody accepted it? You know 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.800 what I'm saying. So the first thing I'm rapping, boom, 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:21.960 what's the first thing you think they said? When I'm wrapping, 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.080 nobody hearing this ship yet, and I just come out wrapping. 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.000 I didn't understand what you get the funk out of 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.520 here with the fast ship. Get the funk out of 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.199 here with the fast ship. We don't know what, you know, 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.000 So that I had to deal with a lot of 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.840 that then, you know, like just being from the city 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.800 and we're not really being accepted as artists, you know, 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.760 like people look at us more as fans and ship 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.200 you know, they come there and rock out. Yeah, Chicago fans, 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.560 they didn't really look at us too much as artists 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.359 at the time. So I felt like, you know, you 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.600 just have to break into Kanye West. We're talking about 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:59.199 he's probably going further back, going back when remember me 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.879 and Comment is the first two artists that that pretty 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:06.800 much came out. Yeah. Yeah, So so we were talking 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.359 like no Idea was in front line at that No, no, 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:14.800 it was coming yeah yeah. And he still had twilight 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.600 tone around two at the time, so yeah yeah. And 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.280 you saying, so I don't understand. So you're saying that 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:26.280 shot Town wasn't respected at that time. It's the same 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:30.400 thing I've been telling you, man, the same thing said, 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:34.800 we wasn't accepted for not not like other genres of music, 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:38.560 but rap shit, No, Chicago wasn't being heard. Not at 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.040 the time. I was trying to come out like we had. 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.160 I was. I was the artist that had to tell 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:47.240 everybody Chicago was dope and that its motherfucker's here and 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.520 wait till y'all come hearing. Like I was the one 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:51.600 that had to go out there and speak that ship. 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.080 You know what they especially me being from like the 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.520 West Side of Chicago and not really having the same 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.199 kind of hip hop vibe or hip hop style that 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:04.280 most rappers have. So it was double double drama on 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:05.960 my end trying to bust in the door. So I 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:07.840 was one of the first artists had to let him 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:12.120 know about the city that Chicago was slept on. Yeah, 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.960 because he always says that about Miami, like Miami was 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.400 slept on every city outside of New York and maybe 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.280 l A and Atlanta. At the point was man, Miami 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.919 was killing it a little bit that but early on 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.040 I'm talking about like in the hip hop industry, like 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.159 I always talking about it that New York had a 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:32.600 pigeonholed on at least the corporations that record labels, the media, 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:35.680 so they weren't looking at everybody else. They just wasn't 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.720 allowing us in. Just hate a dog, it's not hate 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:44.639 it the same thing he says, the same way we 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:46.359 all fell down. I think I think a lot of 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.840 a lot of other cities felt like that at the time. 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:50.639 A lot of other places felt like that at the 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:54.320 time when early on, because New York was the mecca 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.760 of it, was only going on there and everybody else 0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:59.560 was trying to do what New Yorkers are exactly. So 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.640 we share similar feelings in that as so you ever 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.040 felt like your city wasn't supporting you though it was 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:06.800 harder for you in your city, like it's it's it 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.800 seems like everyone who makes it somewhere they try in 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.040 their city, but then they actually go outside the city. 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.320 I think early on, you face a lot of problems 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.080 early on, Like even when I look at some of 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.760 the younger cats, they face it a lot early on 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.359 than that. At a certain point they breakthrough and then 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.760 and then the city starts to accept them as as 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.480 you know, uh, the ones like O. G. S Or 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.159 Man they put it on, you know, they put the 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.000 city on like that. But early on a lot of 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:36.120 times when you're coming coming from Chicago, you gotta break 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.080 through a lot of hate, you know, and it might 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.280 be close. It's gonna be everywhere around you. So so 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.399 you gotta break through a lot of hate and know 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.800 how to navigate when you come out of my city. 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:52.440 My mom that passed away, j R. Yeah, rest in 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:56.879 peace to Timbuctwo. Was he was he part of the team. No, 0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.600 he wasn't like right in the team, but he was 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.200 definitely my man. Every time they don't have his events 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:04.560 in Chicago, I try to go represent, you know, because 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.960 they still do something every year for him, and everybody 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:11.280 comes out and yeah, Timbucto is still alive. You know 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:12.959 what I mean, Let's make some noise for that goddamn 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:23.760 it work. So you're going, is this it's because Kanye 0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:27.960 produced both the records right for when you say both 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:32.320 the records, which you mean the two first singles, um 0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:36.159 as far as Slow Jams and Overnight Celebrity. Yeah, you 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.920 already knew Kanye as a producer or no, Yeah, yeah, 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.480 we already knew Kanye because yeah, in the shot in 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.880 the city, you know, we we already knew. I knew 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.600 each other. You know. We one of my guys from 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.040 back in the day's named tom Chi. He knew all 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:52.800 of the rappers and he was like, man, let me 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:54.760 introduce you to my man Kanye. And we used to 0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:58.639 see him up North rapping all the time. I met 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.359 him as a rapper first, then later on me and 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.040 tempt You used to go to this house as a producer. 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:05.760 This is when he started to produce. I was like, 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.119 his beast is different. You know, I was noticing his 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.840 music is different, you know, but it was way too 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.440 early on, you know, before everything's going to happen. You 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.240 can see those two records your biggest record, your biggest songs. 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.479 So no, I would say two of my most important songs. 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.760 Yeah yeah, I was saying, yeah, yeah, most important. Yeah, 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.320 you know, I gotta ask why why? I mean see 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.440 for me coming up doing what I was doing, I 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.920 felt like, you know, as always gifts curse. The one 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.680 of the gifts that I felt like I got from 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.600 putting effort into my lyrics, my wordplay, like trying to 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.920 make sure that I was making some ship that everybody 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.919 was messing with. Is other artists that would come up 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.320 in the city will respect it. And at a certain 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.240 point they felt like, Okay, if I'm coming out the city, 0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:53.840 it's gonna be the ship. If I give my man 0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.240 twist on the record, that's letting me know, like boom, 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.000 I'm representing Chicago when I do that. So that was 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.680 one thing that was dope for me at that time 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.040 frame where a lot of artists that was coming out 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:05.919 of the city, my man cap One was like, man, 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.679 I won't get it in with my man twisted you know, 0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:11.840 a bunch of people. Um. So at this time when 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:13.720 I was doing the record with him, it was like 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:15.680 he was coming up in the game. I would see 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.600 him sometimes, we're running to him in the streets every 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:19.440 once in a while, Like I ran into him in 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.240 the streets. When he let me know that he produced 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.080 the Bennie Seagull records, the Truth, right, I think, yeah, 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:25.920 he was like, yeah, I just did something with Beanie. 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.000 You know. So he was like, I got this record 0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:30.840 you know called Slow Jams. Don't want you to get 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.760 on it. You know, when when we was chopping it 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.959 up about it, he was telling me the concept. So 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.600 I was remembering, like how I was gonna put it together. 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:41.960 I'm like, okay, I'm gonna incorporate all of these different things. 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.240 We recorded Slow Jams first, Yeah, Slow Jams first. Yeah. 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:47.760 So and then I don't think, I mean, I don't 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.160 think Jamie Fox was even thought about for the record 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.359 yet because but that's crazy, because let's just be clear, 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:58.840 we didn't take Jamie Fox serious at that time. So 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:03.320 whose idea was it? Let's be real man as a singer. 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.000 That was the first record that we looked we took 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.200 him serious, because you know, we were looking at him 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:14.720 like Wanda remember the character. You know what, I'm the 0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:19.399 oldest right now. But what I'm saying is this is 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.320 before Ray, right, this is before this. Yeah, definitely before 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.720 before Ray. So that song single handed was like, wait 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.800 a minute, he killed that. He killed it, and who 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.520 that was? That was Kanye's idea like that, that whole 0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:37.960 thing like slow jams over trying to sabotage me. At 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.120 this time, I knew I was. I knew I was 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.080 being uh. I knew I was Jamie Fox. Move with 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.760 him saying like, let's bring Jamie Fox in at this 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.800 time because we didn't, like I said, now, we didn't. 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.760 I didn't know what. It wasn't a conversation. I heard 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.000 it before. I just heard the ship, you know what 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.000 I mean. So I had did my verse and everything. 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.240 The song was what it was, and he flew to 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.800 l A, ran into jam Me Fox and they went 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.000 in the studio. Then I got the phone call and 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.560 then I heard the ship and I was like, oh ship. 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.040 That's when I knew it was old. Yeah, that's you 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.680 can rightfully say like Jamie Fox is a star. It 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.800 was a star even then. But his music career wasn't 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:19.960 a twister. He might have not been outside. This makes 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:24.640 some noise for that, I mean, I mean it was 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.560 it was yeah, yeah man, but we was. I was 0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.160 definitely you could have said I'm all right, Yeah, you 0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:35.160 could have your record. You could have said I'm I 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.880 You did not. Yeah, I did not. You did not? 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:44.840 You did? I heard it right? So then so yeah, 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.880 we course you said you said you have cause Celebrity next. Yeah, 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.880 we recorded over Night Celebty. So it's not it's not 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:54.600 the same session, not two different sessions. The record came out, 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.800 it's a hit. Then you're going to celebrity. How does 0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:59.680 this happen? What are you doing that? Well, when we 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.400 do over nice Celebrity, we already know we got one. 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.560 This time we're moving around, you know. We we got 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.640 slow jams out there, so we're moving around, and uh, 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.960 we had the uh, we had the Overnight Celebrity idea. 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.640 You know. It was actually a sample I wanted to use. 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.200 So I told him, Man, that's the record. I want 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.480 to use this. This, this Linney Williams record right here. Man, 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.680 this this you know, because I used to remember, yeah, 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.200 I used to remember that record playing on produced this 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:29.480 If you want to say that now but now, no, man, 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.000 but I knew. I knew that once he got his 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:33.840 hand on the record like that, with with what he 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.400 was doing with all of the soul music, that he 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.480 was gonna kill it. So I gave him a record 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.040 and he actually said it kicked his ask for a man, 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:42.520 And he was like, man, it took me a minute 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.480 to get this record the way I wanted to get it, 0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.680 but I got it, and he was excited about it. 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.880 Then he sent it to me and now I'm listening 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.280 to it, and now I was messing my head up 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.720 because I'm like, damn. So now I felt the pressure 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.920 because we got the Slow Jams record out there, so 0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.720 I'm like, damn, what the fun? But then bam, I 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.040 heard the hook on it, so he blessed me of 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.840 the hook. That's all it took. Once I heard a 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.280 little bit or something to go off, that was it. Boom. 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.280 I started coming with my case you want this time? 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:12.760 It's not job. This was um Judy Green one, no, no, no, 0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:18.080 Greg calmen, all of them. Okay you named okay, okay, okay, 0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:22.760 I ain't cool cool cool cool. I'm wanna pointing up 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.040 for me. Man, let's don't like it, so all right, 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.880 quick Time and Slim. But he's not drinking, but let's 0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.520 give him. Let's get him his box. Where's that? Come on? 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.560 What's that? You know what I'm saying? He want you 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.640 to know, man, we want to give you your flowers, man, 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:37.680 while you're here, while you're alive. This is why we 0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.360 do ship. Our show was about bigging all legends up 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.000 while they're alive. So we literally wanted man, thank you man, 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:53.000 real flowers. Motherfucking twist you see you see it. I 0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:56.440 appreciate that. That's love. Let's love love, all right. So 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.680 we usually play this game quick Time with Slime, and 0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.480 this game you gotta take shots. So if you ain't 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.240 taking shots, one of your homies gotta take a shot 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:08.960 for you. Come on, come on, come on. That's DJ 0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:14.360 type Mike right there, type ready, come on, getting ready. 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:27.520 You already know? Okay, here you go, okay one sir? Alright? Cool? 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:32.360 Oh oh yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right, 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.760 it's right. You slipping. What happened to do? Say right here? 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.200 All right? What you say? So, I'll give you two choices, 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:45.400 all right, you can say both. Your man gotta drink 0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.480 when we drink with him. Yeah, we drink drink wom 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.400 So you're gonna leave him out there? I know what's happening. Yeah, 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:56.160 if you say know what's happeningly correctly, this is what about. 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.680 I'm gonna give you two tough choices. When you say both, 0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.120 that's what makes us drink. Both are neither or neither? Yes, 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.400 they used to be rough. I'm gonna drink some Japanique. 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.720 You should take a shot at two though, Twister. Come on, goddamn, 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.040 it might take a shot. Come on, you take a 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:10.840 shot too, and only your man out there like that? 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:16.000 All right? Cool? Hey, they got you the big cup 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:23.400 to get shot at a little cup. That's not we'rena. 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.440 You got one of you. You got one already in 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:32.680 front of you. Twister, all right, you're ready, Yeah, I'm 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:43.720 asking you ready. It is rough or Tupac? Damn man, 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:54.920 damn that damn it's whatever criteria. It's rough, it's rough. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.280 I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna go for Tupac. I'm 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.840 gonna tell you why though, because I actually got a 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.400 has to meet this brother. That's why you know. I 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.960 met him on two occasions. One occasion I did a 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.600 show in l A and uh it was with Digital 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:13.719 Underground Digital Underground. I got a chance to say what's 0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:19.560 up to shot G looked over to the cut saw Tupacs. Yeah, 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:21.600 I saw him sitting on the steps chilling. I'm like, 0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.000 damn okay, so I ain't say nothing to him. Then 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.200 then I seen him again by the bar. We walked 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:27.680 up to each other. He was like, man, they told 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:28.920 me to come chop it up with you when I 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:32.520 come to Chicago, you know. Then we halted again. The 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.160 second time I met him, he had the fucking Juice 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.360 hoodie on the same the Juice City on. So you know, 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.359 I got a chance to meet him, and that made 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.279 me engage with his music in a certain way. But 0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:46.040 I definitely feel like t Max is the ship, you know. 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.479 But just just for the sake of this, I'm gonna 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.239 go with POCT because I got a chance to meet him. 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.440 Idn't really get a chance to chop it up. I 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.799 never got a chance. I saw him in person when 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.840 he was at an award show, pass him by, But 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:58.400 but I ain't never get a chance to chop it 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.279 up with him. That's crazy. I'm exact opposite. I never 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.640 got to meet pop I got to chop it up 0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:17.360 at Wow, that's that's crazy, eminem or bust the bribes, 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:25.080 whatever criteria you want. You drinking already, I had to 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:30.399 take a shot on Okay, okay, alright, cool, take your shot. 0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.520 Yeah you know, I ain't even know I was taking 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:36.880 the shot. You asked the question. If you want to 0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:48.680 take a real shot, you get some Japanese whiskey right now. Okay, 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:56.319 they got Japanese whiskey. Definitely drinking. Get ready, that's what 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:57.719 you should have hand. I don't know. I don't know. 0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.960 I don't know. Let's go our face on ice cube. 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:18.360 Oh no, he got them all night questions. Yeah, we 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.600 gotta drink. We gotta drink. You gotta drink. Let's go, 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:26.440 let's go between. That's rough right there. Yeah, that's rough one. 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.960 Now this might get rough. We're gonna it's gonna be 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:39.640 a while. So yeah, buddy outcasts or you g k damn. 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:51.839 I love your honesty. He's very skilled. Ship. You gotta drink, 0:36:53.520 --> 0:37:02.520 you gotta drink. I don't know what you're gonn now, 0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:08.400 this one don't know because you guys are kind of 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:12.479 like in the middle. So Wu tang or in w 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:27.000 a damn man, see in Wa was some of the 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:30.960 most exciting hip hop that I had ever heard coming out. 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.400 It was what the funk? It was like the shock. 0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.640 It was the most dopest, most exciting ship that I heard. 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:41.839 Wu Tang got me through some hard motherfucking times. They 0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:45.560 did the same team. But now, man, it's a certain feeling. Man, 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.200 it's a certain feeling. Wu Tang got me through. Sometimes 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:54.279 I can't pick though. You gotta take a drink. I'm 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.319 gonna tell you. I'mna tell you what's the difference. No 0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.560 I did. I'm gonna tell you what the difference is 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.880 for me. Okay, I gotta hear this. I didn't know 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.640 what camp it was like. I was just like what 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.560 actually thought it was a jail. I was like, oh, ship, 0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:14.680 I've never gonna get locked up there, like and so 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:19.239 I was Cuve was younger, Yeah, um, but Wang I 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.400 visually visualized that ship a little bit more. But I 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:22.839 wouldn't be able to pick need of That's what I'm 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.160 taking a shot. Now. Let me tell you about being 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:30.640 from Chicago and see because it's different because Wuchang, you 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.319 can relate a certain way then, so for me, it 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.040 was it was us being in the middle. It was 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:43.319 the opportunity to hear the West coast rap about the 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:46.560 streets and me relate to what they were talking about 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.640 from the from the West coast perspective, and I can relate, 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.760 and then me hear the streets from the East Coast 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.959 perspective and being able to relate, so that that that's 0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.080 what I think. That's dope about coming from Chicago, go 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.680 being a fan, is you got a chance to like 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.560 it wasn't so one sided like in Chicago on the 0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:12.440 same block you got arguments all day about this person 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:14.360 across the street is a fan of this person on 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.359 the West coast, this person is a fan of person 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.040 you know, SUBMD to west, right, you know what I mean. 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.160 I mean I feel like I feel like they should 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.040 probably take the west part of it out and just 0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.920 pulled it the mid like because y'all right, definitely like 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.480 in the middle, like you're not West coast that yeah, 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.759 that the west part don't kind of make sense a 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.400 little bit East coast. Y'are your own ship. Yeah, you 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.120 know what I'm saying, you're your own ship, your own um. 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.960 All right, But let's just let's list Jordan or Lebron 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:46.239 damn well, it ain't real hard Jordan Man, Okay, Dan, 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.880 when you when you you know, I mean when you've 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.719 seen Jordan play. See a lot of these people never 0:39:52.760 --> 0:40:00.359 even seen Jordan play. Yeah, so y'all seen it? Repeat? No, yeah, 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.239 see you would see people. I don't know, man, I 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:07.000 don't know. You got a bigger person doing something that 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:10.440 this smaller person was doing that should looked incredible at 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.560 six six dude doing it. Ship, That ship was incredible. 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:19.880 Rick Rosso Fat Joe. I like Lebron too, thought, but 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:28.120 rosso Fat Joe. Damn man, you snap you do snap? 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.439 I really can't pick between our them. I love both 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:37.120 of them. Yeah, it's snapped hard. He would have been 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:42.360 drinking too on that. Okay, that's a rough one. That 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:57.320 Crazy Bone or chip Food. Damn Jiff gonna be mad 0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:00.120 at me. Man, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna all 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:04.719 about it later. Man. But Crazy Bone man, crazy Boney, 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:14.160 Oh yeah, Crazy Bone ship, I don't know. We're gonna 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:19.279 go with this, Oh Mob deep or m O P 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:26.200 Mob d Okay, Yeah, I like emop too, But Cubs 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:34.680 of White Sox, White Sox Salty from to Be Salty 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:44.080 podcast or Radio Shit I mean podcast podcast Chicago pizza 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:49.280 or New York pizza Chicago. I hate New York pizza 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.480 every time I try some New York pizza. Like what 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.920 this one? This is with a clean on food. Let 0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:00.680 me throw on, let me throw it in this Techno 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:09.160 and eminem damn no, you got a drink on that one? Yeah, 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.759 you gotta drink these is these is my brothers. And 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:15.480 then then it's it's actually hard, you know, because they 0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:19.520 go hard. Man. Yeah, push your teeth or Jada Kiss. 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:25.800 I like, push your t but Jada kiss. Yeah. So 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:36.560 also XXL, all right, we're all done over here. Yeah, 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:47.840 excel yeah XXL. I like them both. But al Capone 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:58.040 or Lucky Luciano compone, Yeah, that's Chicago poem baby. Oh 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:01.880 but you use technine already, right, If it's not Eminem, 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:07.680 it's a different question. Tech nine or trash tech nine 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:16.880 track is cool, but Tech nine West but obviously produced it. 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:24.400 Kanye West. No, I d it's my man, but Kanye West. 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:30.240 The locks are run DMC, run DMC. I love the locks, 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:33.319 but I was raised on run DMC. You can't even 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:43.520 put down yeah, comment or loope, damn, don't don't take 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:58.239 a babysit. Who I'm two cold brothers there? Yeah, sure, 0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:04.160 I know what a brat that's right, bull Chicago are 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:13.640 drinking that. Yeah yeah them them them both illmatic or 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:19.399 reasonable doubt. Damn no, I need to hear this one. 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.080 I'm going to tell you the truth, right. See, when 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.040 you put the whole story together, then it's like okay, okay. 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:36.160 But when you're talking about that moment there, I gotta say, ill, Maddie, 0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:40.719 m hmm. Yeah. Just it's just I don't know, it's 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.080 it's I think when you when you when you right 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:49.000 in there, I think you're talking about the person that's 0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.520 more into wrap versus the person that has a foot 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.120 in the streets a little bit m hm. And I 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.520 think if you just all in your music, you're gonna 0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.719 be more of the amatic fan. But if you end 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:01.200 them was it but you got a foot in the 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.879 streets to you for sure gonna be a reasonable doubt fan. 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.319 So it's not that I think this is so much 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.719 better than that. It's just at that time frame, I 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.480 didn't have a foot in the street. I was going 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.480 hard on rap ship. That's why I say about a 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.480 reasonable doubt too. I don't say I didn't have it 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.040 from the street. I just say I didn't have to 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.640 couldn't related. He was talking about money ship that I 0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:22.920 didn't have. Yeah, see, I just like I had to 0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:24.359 get back later. I was like, oh, that's what you're 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:28.840 talking about, Okay, I mean ship they aumatic was about 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:35.080 the streets too, but it's the word play. Yeah. But 0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:41.840 I got another one, common or common sense. Damn which 0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:47.840 version of him? I would say common common sense was 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:56.080 my ship too, but definitely common Chief Keith for g Herbo. Damn. 0:45:56.360 --> 0:46:04.440 Do I want to pick one? I can't really pick 0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:06.880 between them too. It's okay, so you gotta drink too, 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:17.320 that be with that cheers. That's on you man. You 0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:20.080 shouldn't pick, by the way, Yeah, them too. It would 0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:21.840 be hard. You know. You know what you should have 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:23.720 said when I said that, you should have shot down 0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.040 m that's crazy what you've been saying the whole that's 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:35.120 the correct that's drinking a lot of the chronic or 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:41.839 all odds on me. Mm hmm. That's rough for real, 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:55.280 right there, that's rough. Wait, let me think, let me think. 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.799 You know what I'm I'm gonna force myself to pick 0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:10.319 only because of one reason. No, you gotta drink now now. 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.080 Once I thought about the reason, I was like, okay, 0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.600 I'm gonna drink too with that. Yeah, both of those 0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:22.680 were like the both impactful, very very impactful. M you 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.319 know what, though, you're drunk for nothing. I'm gonna say 0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:31.440 that because all eyes on me, you you know, it 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.560 was more about poc on All eyes on me. You 0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:36.000 have more more things, you have some other things going on, 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:41.920 but it was more pop whereas chronic from crew you know, 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.520 and that and that that that assembly Man was the ship, 0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.280 you know. So I'm gonna give it to the assembly 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.360 over over something that was more geared to one person. 0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:56.799 But damn well call it or DJ drama mm hmm, 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:06.960 damn dog man, DJ callott Man, DJ CA. That's the 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.840 last one, DJ cadott You ain't I want to like 0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.359 we always, I'm not gonna even say nothing. I'm gonna 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.879 just throw it out there. You tell me what you back. 0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:31.799 Loyalty or respect? Loyalty loyalty like to explain why, Um, 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.160 I mean loyalty of a person is loyal to you. 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.560 They won't suck you over. A person that can respect 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.480 you still fuck you over if you gotta, if you 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:42.120 gotta way to funk you over, you know, publicly, he 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.560 can still respect you. But if he thinks he got 0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.279 a way to fuck you over and still looks like 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.279 he respects you and not be known as the snake 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.920 that did it, he'll do it, you know, he he 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:56.640 can do it. So respect still makes me have fear 0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.279 that of a person. I still got a little fear. 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.120 You respect me, but you don't funk with me, you know, 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.200 But loyalty that you can't. You can't trade that for nothing. 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:09.919 That's real, that's real, real. I always think the answer 0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.960 to the correct assert is both. I mean, but if 0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.600 you gotta pick one, you know, yeah, I know, but 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:20.880 in this case, maybe want you to drink, you might 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:30.919 as well finish that up. And um, you gotta drunk 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:37.760 with Trade songs? Yeah yeah, that's everybody, everybody that's gonna 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:42.400 make it. Yeah. Yeah. How was that the your pussy 0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:45.439 game go up? That was more than the label We 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.319 was We was young. He was a young cat too. 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.080 He would help your pussy game go off. No, not 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:51.759 with that record, right there? Man, that was a young 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:55.120 cat man. You know what I'm saying. So, so have 0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:59.080 you met the Brown Trade song System? Like? Yeah, the 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:03.360 trade school. I running to him every once in a while. Goddamnit, 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:06.160 man is real out here. Let's which, which are the 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.360 labels that you were on? Do you like? Do you 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.239 think we're the best? Ones that you were were the 0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:11.960 best one that you're on? Because you weren't quite a 0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:15.680 bit of labels the best at point, it didn't get 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.360 a chance to happen. You know, this is when I 0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.960 was on Atlantic. You know she had to change. Yeah, 0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:22.680 because we were gonna make it happen. Man. You know, 0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.600 I had a lot of love with the guys, you know, 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:29.640 you only it was adulpe relationship. You know, Me and 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.279 Dame used to chop it up a lot. He was 0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:36.279 the reason I got on the Champions record, you know. Yeah, yeah, 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.520 So we was trying to make it happen, but you 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.080 know I was, I guess too deeply embedded in my 0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:44.799 contract situation with Atlantic to move the business around and 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.360 make it happen. So, you know, so if it was 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:50.359 that because you're on Big Beat, which is you were 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:53.719 on Big Beat right that record label? Big Beat? No? No, 0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.080 what was it with? What was the tie with I 0:50:57.120 --> 0:51:00.640 think it was tight to Atlantic? Yeah, so Atlantic allowed 0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:02.719 so between Atlantic and a Loud Which one of those 0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.320 two would you? Because he was at Loud when Wutan 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:08.680 came there too as well. I was like first, I 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.440 think I was the first artist sign allowed first. First. 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:17.480 Alcoholics was very first, No, me first, you first? Yeah, yeah, 0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:22.040 didn't alcoholis Yeah, that's just a lot. That's hard. Yeah, 0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:26.480 that's very first artiste. Steve different to this day, Um 0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.759 when I see him, Yeah, yeah, that was hard when 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:34.120 Stephen's cool. Stephen's cool. I always had a cool vibe 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:39.239 with Steven phone numbers nowadays. No, no, I ain't got 0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:42.400 his numbers. He about to get. Steve would talk to 0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.280 me man if I reached out to him. Yeah, that's 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:48.160 my man. Yeah, this is what we didn't ask. No, 0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:50.480 but I didn't get the answers between the two labels. 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.040 Which one are you? You're not sign the Atlantics? So 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:56.080 are you? No? No, I think you know, I was 0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.640 on Atlantic the longest you know, you know, I think, uh, 0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.160 the the it was one that was first, you know, 0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.600 so loud Wreck has been at first label I was on. 0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:08.400 It's got that that first vibe, you know. But Atlantic 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:12.400 I was on like like Templars years maybe something like that. Yeah, 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:16.320 So that's the question. We didn't ask major or independent, 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:21.600 And definitely why independent the freedom? And I think to 0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.960 each his own too. I think if you, I think, 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.920 if you have a system that works, so you got 0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.480 your business people and play and you you know, you 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.520 you you kind of got people around that can you know, 0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:35.920 uh make your shifts sail, you know, then you kind 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.279 of can look more towards that independent round. But I 0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:40.879 think if you, like a new artist, you don't really 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.799 got anybody around, you know, to kind of give you, 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:46.880 uh tips or or show you the ropes, then you 0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.440 might have to lean more towards major label and and 0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.279 your your attorneys and stuff like that, because you believe 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:55.719 you're gonna need people to help you take advantage of 0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.279 being on the record label too, because regulabel you can 0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:00.279 fall through the cracks. Yeah, so that so why I 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.440 said attorney. You know, you know, if you ain't got 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:04.120 those people, then you know, all you can do is 0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:07.080 rely on people like your attorney. And right, let's keep it. Really, 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.320 you made it a lot more money with majors. Yeah, 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.600 you make a lot more money with the major. So 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:16.440 so that's the gift and the curse to it. You 0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:19.719 you wanna, you want your freedom you can move how 0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:21.480 the funk you want to move what You're gonna make 0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:23.399 the money like this a little bit at a time. 0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:25.600 You want to make the big money here, You're gonna 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:27.520 make this big money. But you're gonna take a little 0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.520 bit of whip cracking over here. Sometimes I don't know 0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:36.440 whip cracking this whatever will actually hit you with it. 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:41.920 But you know what I mean, you know that the mentality, 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.960 you know some of that mentality. Sometimes you gotta you 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:47.000 gotta listen to what what what somebody else say saying 0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:50.080 and uh bye by the choices of other people more, 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:58.800 you know, that's all ship. I forget all your independent 0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.279 I think owning your own ship it having that well 0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:06.880 you don't want no more shots. Yeah, I think, I 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:11.280 personally think. I think being independent before you go major, 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.600 it's always gonna be the ideal situation because then you 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:17.360 go into a major kind of prepared, self relying, and 0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:19.480 then you can take advantage of that machine because the machine, 0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:21.800 for sure, you're gonna make way more money in the machine. 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:23.920 But independent, you you know, if you if you could 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:28.399 established establish yourself independently own more of your stuff going 0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:30.600 into that, it's gonna be a better deal. More leveraged 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:34.359 getting that deal with a major. Yeah, I don't know. 0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:36.719 I think these days, though, independent is is the way 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:40.800 to go for sure. He's he's with an independent. Yeah. 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:45.760 So I'm um, we're running through a couple of titles 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:46.880 and I don't want you to just tell me what 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:52.080 they mean to you. Man, I say, got you running 0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:55.879 Off at the mouth? Running Off at the Mouth. That's 0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:59.560 the title of my first album, running Off at the Mouth. Yeah, 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:01.799 it's the first thing to come to my mind. It's 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:05.280 the title of my first album. Man, I was like eighteen, 0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:10.040 nineteen years old. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Call down 0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:12.719 your album, so I want you to do for me? Yeah? 0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:14.399 That's that was That was That was. That was how 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.800 I came out. That was how I titled my first album. 0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.040 I was still thinking. I was in the process of 0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:22.719 finding myself as an artist at the time, you know. 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.000 So this is me getting my feet wet, you know, 0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:26.840 in the game running Off at the Mouth. That's what 0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:33.560 it is. Resurrection independent. This this is more independent situation 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.600 upset that that that that this and that didn't go 0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:38.480 right with the label. I wanted to put this record 0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:40.600 out first. I wanted to be like this so we're 0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:42.919 doing our independent thing, and I wanted to go that round. 0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:45.200 So it was way early in the game when I 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.720 tried the independent round, and Resurrection is like a body 0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:52.000 of work that I'm more uh more proud of for 0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:54.360 the freedom, the freedom aspect, I got a chance to 0:55:54.400 --> 0:56:01.080 make the type of music I wanted to make some 0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:10.439 noise for that the bounced, I was gonna keep going 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.719 in order? Should I keep going in order? Yes? In 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.600 the head, you do you do a couple? I did 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:21.600 the first two? You do the next three? Adrenaline Rush, 0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.160 I asked my one right there, that's the one where 0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:27.040 I felt like Adrenaline Rush is the one where I 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:30.440 knew who and what Twister is. How I wanted to 0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:34.200 come out what I wanted to people to hear from me, 0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:37.799 you know, So Adrenaline Rush is the title comes from 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:41.399 I thought about when they say I forgot it, when 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.399 they say what you want to title your album? Yeah, 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:45.919 when it's like what you want to tie to your album? 0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:48.520 I think the first I asked myself a question like, man, 0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.399 what do rap feel like to me? You know, That's 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:51.879 that's the first thing I asked me. I said, Okay, 0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:53.120 what is rap to me? Or what do it make 0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.359 me feel? Like? Give me adrenaline rush. So that's where 0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:58.759 the title came from. It was like just the way 0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:00.839 I feel about rap music and I just felt like 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:04.680 I knew how I wanted to wrap my audience. At 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:06.239 the time, I was like, this is when I made 0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:08.560 my mind up, Like I've just been a rap for 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:12.120 my Chicago people. Just what I see just in my city. 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:13.680 I'm gonna stick to what I know and what I do, 0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:15.719 and I'm rapping for my city. So a drilling and 0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:21.200 rush represents so the me coming fully into knowing who 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:25.080 I was as an artist. Yeah, the next one is 0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:30.280 Kma Kazi riding a wave. That's me riding a wave 0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:33.200 coming out with the next album. Still wanted to come 0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:35.960 with an impactful title or something that was hard. So 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:39.320 I came with Kama Kazi, and then I had a 0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:42.640 little more help, you know, I was able to to 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:44.800 to make the type of music I wanted to make. 0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:51.160 You know, the budget was a little bigger. I love 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:54.480 the budget, you know, a chance to do you know 0:57:55.800 --> 0:58:00.480 this right? Yeah, So that that's what that was. Man, 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:03.360 Kama Kazi is me riding the wave. I had the 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:07.160 success of you know, my my adrenaline rush wreck in 0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:09.600 a certain way. And then I had it was slow jams. 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.320 I knew when Kamakazi was coming out, I already had 0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:15.000 slow jams on this record. So it's like I knew 0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:16.840 my ship was gonna be popping. So I was like 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:19.960 having fun with the Kama Kazi joint. So that's that's 0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:23.960 what come to my mind, is riding away, I don't 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:30.200 have it, okay, the day after, day after m hmm, 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:34.520 still riding the way. But that mother fucker wasn't so 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:41.040 high now, you know what I mean. So so the 0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:45.720 budget a little less, Yeah, so putting it, putting together, 0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:48.080 putting together what I could put together with what I had, 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:50.760 you know. So but but now it was it was 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.360 still dope. I was I think I was getting a 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:56.080 little a little lost in that time, you know, I 0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.840 was starting to get a little lost in what direction 0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:01.400 I wanted to go in at that time frame. So 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:03.920 so I put that record out, But it wasn't a 0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:07.640 record that I was the most proud of or or 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:12.040 happy with, you know, energy wise, just everything wasn't going away. 0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.480 I wanted it to go, you know, energy bis wise, everything, 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:18.480 So that record just just was what it was at 0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:23.360 the time. Yeah, now I'm looking I'm looking at the 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:25.360 at the dates, and then you have Adrenaline Rush two 0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:28.480 thousand and seven. Is this a time frame where you're 0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:31.720 feeling right like, what is there a shift in what 0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:35.240 you're doing and how you so? So Yeah, so the 0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:38.360 later one is just a title that I was putting 0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:40.400 on some music at the time that I felt like 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.200 had that same vibe still, and so we're like, man, 0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:45.480 let's come with Adreneral Rush two thousand and seven. I 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:47.960 probably would have titled It's something Else at the time, 0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:51.000 So I think creatively, I was just in a shitty 0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:53.640 space and that's what I titled the project at the time. 0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:56.919 You know, so this this is uh me still able 0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:59.560 to wrap my ass off, but shitty space titles and 0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:02.480 ship thinking, you know, not thinking as fully clear as 1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:08.959 I as I should have been. Probably category F five. 1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:14.280 Category f five. That's when I'm riding my independent wave again. 1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:18.200 You know. I love that record because I have some 1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:22.560 some for me. I had some some some some big 1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:25.480 records for me for myself. I want. I made some 1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:28.680 music that I wanted to make that sounded good to me. 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:32.000 So the record didn't didn't do what I wanted it 1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:35.360 to do commercially or you know, successfu wise, But as 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:38.000 far as the body of work and what it sounded 1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:42.560 like and it being important for for what it was, 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:46.400 for how music shall sound and hip hops your sound 1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:48.920 for Twister, That's what I was on. So so I 1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:52.040 like category at five, were you already entering the whole 1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:55.800 security and firearm industry at that at that point that 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:59.840 would have been. Yeah, around this time, I'm interested in it. 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:02.760 Around this time, I'm I'm you know, still having my 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:05.760 concealed carry and stuff like that. But now I'm starting 1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:09.360 to entertain possibly being an instructor and stuff like that. 1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:14.240 You know, around didn't didn't didn't take it fully serious. Yea, yeah, okay, let' 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:16.120 let's go through the albums. I know we need to 1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:21.000 bring gun capt down here. Man, I'm telling you all right. 1:01:21.040 --> 1:01:27.080 In the Perfect Storm, the Perfect Storm, that was dope too. 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:30.240 That was that was me doing my independent thing. At 1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:33.840 this time, it's is not not as fulfilling to me, 1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:37.439 but I'm still loving music doing my thing. I came 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:39.560 with the Perfect Storm. But but like I said, just 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:44.800 not fully what I wanted to be, you know, vibe wise, 1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:47.520 energy wise. So at this time, I'm just making music. 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:50.680 I think I'm trying to find which direction I'm going 1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:58.600 in next around this time, you know what you say, huh, Well, yeah, 1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:00.640 I had that record on that, but I here wasn't 1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:04.680 as excited about the whole project overall. I knew that 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:08.360 I wasn't in a good space creatively and just musically 1:02:08.440 --> 1:02:10.640 like I wanted to be. So I was just making music, 1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:13.480 getting through it, trying to see where I'm where I'm 1:02:13.520 --> 1:02:15.400 going next, what I'm gonna do next. You're one of 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:17.640 them guys, I gotta get away to make a whole album, 1:02:17.880 --> 1:02:22.400 or like you'd like to stay home a little bit 1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:26.360 of both. For some reason, though, I found that I 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:30.400 gotta be. I gotta be in the I gotta be grame. 1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:32.560 I like to be in a grimy situation to make 1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:35.520 it real. Like I could go like, you know, we 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:37.160 could go to l A and shift. I could be 1:02:37.200 --> 1:02:39.120 you know, in the hills, you know, writing on ship. 1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:42.440 That's dope. But I would rather I need to I 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:44.919 need to be in some grimy ship like I feel 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:46.640 like I would make the real music in a in 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:50.560 a PC project hallway when you start, I gotta be. 1:02:50.680 --> 1:02:54.280 I gotta have some element of where I came from 1:02:55.920 --> 1:02:59.360 from you. Yeah, we me and him probably would have 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:06.680 been making out of some music. Yeah yeah, that's that's 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:09.360 my jam to man, that's the whole project right there 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:13.080 is Uh, I'm vibing with music a little bit more. 1:03:13.200 --> 1:03:17.240 But all of these projects you naming our projects where 1:03:17.920 --> 1:03:20.680 I was able to do what I do effortlessly as 1:03:20.720 --> 1:03:23.240 far as making a song or do a verse or 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:24.720 like damn you killing it or do what you do, 1:03:24.840 --> 1:03:29.400 but just not fully being fulfilled with music at the time. 1:03:29.560 --> 1:03:31.520 I'm not in the space that I want to be, 1:03:32.280 --> 1:03:34.880 you know, mentally, So I'm just kind of making music 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:39.040 and making records that I considered as dope, but still 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:42.120 searching for what I wanted to do and be on 1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:45.160 still so I'm just floating through it. But but the 1:03:45.200 --> 1:03:48.200 records that was on that was was my ship? What 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:51.880 what records was on there? I got two many ship 1:03:52.040 --> 1:03:56.320 you got you got a crazy catalog? Man? Yeah, yeah, 1:03:56.440 --> 1:03:59.680 the catalog crazy. But overall, when you say that title, 1:03:59.800 --> 1:04:02.440 that that's what I remember about that run right there 1:04:02.600 --> 1:04:05.520 is me having the capabilities of making music and doing 1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:08.400 some music that was satisfactory to my fans and everything, 1:04:08.440 --> 1:04:11.320 but not commercially successful as I wanted it to be, 1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:13.320 and just me not really being in a in a 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:15.320 vibe of space that I wanted to be with music 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:19.400 at the time, you know. And then the last two. Yeah, 1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:25.240 you got Crook County. That was my joint right there, 1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:28.080 Creek County because we started making videos in the hood. 1:04:28.200 --> 1:04:30.400 This one, this one, we you know, I got a 1:04:30.440 --> 1:04:33.000 few of my people around, you know, I'm starting to 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:34.400 get it, you know, a few a few of my 1:04:34.480 --> 1:04:37.160 camp around, uh a few of my gun camp people 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:39.720 coming around. Just a few different faces around. So I'm 1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:42.720 making music, We're going around doing stuff in the hood. 1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:46.439 My man beads around that I'm doing music with, and uh, man, 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:49.360 it was just huh yeah, yeah, a lot of the 1:04:49.360 --> 1:04:51.240 homies from Chicago I got there. I think. Then we 1:04:51.240 --> 1:04:55.000 shoot Creek County like at Harvey, different spots like that. Yeah. 1:04:55.120 --> 1:04:57.640 So so Crik County was a record that it was 1:04:57.720 --> 1:04:59.480 dope to me because I was in the streets with it. 1:04:59.680 --> 1:05:02.520 You know, we was moving around in the streets having 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:05.439 everybody being involved in the music and everything. So so 1:05:05.880 --> 1:05:08.280 that was a dope problem. There was a dope project 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:11.040 from me at the time. The last one, it's Summer 1:05:11.120 --> 1:05:17.760 ninety six. That's a very poignant title, Summer ninety six. 1:05:19.120 --> 1:05:25.960 What's on there? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, especially working with 1:05:26.040 --> 1:05:28.520 DJ Ferris, you know, because he wanted the big figures 1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:30.680 in Chicago. That's my man right there. So anytime you 1:05:30.760 --> 1:05:34.080 got him, you know, anytime you got him on something, uh, 1:05:34.600 --> 1:05:37.360 you know, it's dope. So just having him be involved 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:41.280 with that project and just keeping my whole legacy going 1:05:41.720 --> 1:05:43.919 was dope, you know. So that's what Summer ninety six 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:47.120 was about. Was reminded people about when a drumaline rush 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:51.720 came out, which was the Summer ninety six. I think 1:05:52.160 --> 1:06:08.840 it's trying to make them much of that cool. Did 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:13.600 you do it? You ain't never do it? Versus? Right? No, no, no, 1:06:14.080 --> 1:06:16.240 that would be a crazy versus. I don't know who 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:18.280 I would do it with though people always ask me, 1:06:18.360 --> 1:06:19.800 But I don't really know who I would do it with. 1:06:19.880 --> 1:06:24.480 Who you think technic I would be a good one 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:30.640 who said that? I think see when people say Buster, 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:32.760 they just think fast rap. But I think we kind 1:06:32.760 --> 1:06:37.280 of besides the fast rap, we slightly too different artists, 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:41.320 you know what. So I don't know you who would 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:44.880 you want? I don't know that's that's that's that's a 1:06:44.880 --> 1:06:51.560 tough one. Who like two different But I don't think it. 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:54.600 I don't think it has to be an even match 1:06:54.680 --> 1:06:57.240 up in terms of what we think it should be off. 1:06:58.280 --> 1:07:05.520 It should showcase two different styles. Else mystical, wo, mystical, 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:08.560 that would be a dope. Let's keep thinking, y'all, come on, 1:07:10.920 --> 1:07:20.920 comen keeping one crazy part of a group though you 1:07:20.960 --> 1:07:25.240 know not but crazy was also solo. Did you see that? 1:07:25.240 --> 1:07:30.160 Did you see that versus we're doing three six? Ye? Yeah, 1:07:30.240 --> 1:07:35.680 I saw it? How did you all fix your problem? Who? Uh? 1:07:37.080 --> 1:07:40.560 We'll see me and Bone we had a mutual mutual 1:07:40.600 --> 1:07:44.840 friends see lazy Uh Yeah, it was lazy Bone. Lazy 1:07:44.880 --> 1:07:46.720 moves around a lot of you know, he got a 1:07:46.720 --> 1:07:50.680 lot of mutual friends that I got and uh in 1:07:50.680 --> 1:07:53.480 Indiana at the time, we had our buddy name Cho. 1:07:53.720 --> 1:07:55.360 You know, he was doing a song with him at 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:57.200 the time with his with his group and what he 1:07:57.240 --> 1:07:59.600 was doing, and then he knew me and he was like, 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:02.080 wait in it, y'all got beef or something like that. 1:08:02.200 --> 1:08:04.440 So when he ya was beating for years, right and 1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:06.439 this is on wax with this records and all that, 1:08:06.680 --> 1:08:09.560 you know, the style and you know, so so what 1:08:09.600 --> 1:08:11.880 he did at the time was he orchestrated the song 1:08:12.840 --> 1:08:15.280 and he paid Lazy to get on the song and 1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:17.599 paid me to get on the song without telling yall 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:20.360 we're gonna be on it. You didn't care. He told us, 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:22.120 you know, he said, I want y'all to do a 1:08:22.160 --> 1:08:23.840 song to get who I want to name. Y'all can't 1:08:23.840 --> 1:08:27.840 be beefing who. And so once me and Lazy got together, yeah, yeah, 1:08:27.920 --> 1:08:29.920 so shout out to my man Choo for making that happen. 1:08:29.960 --> 1:08:32.519 And man, once being Lazy clicked, it was over. He 1:08:32.600 --> 1:08:34.640 was so cool, you know. We chopped it up, we 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:36.439 did that song, and then I knew them was gonna 1:08:36.439 --> 1:08:38.599 be my guys ever since then. Then the next time 1:08:38.640 --> 1:08:41.080 I like called a good vibe with them was when 1:08:41.200 --> 1:08:47.479 uh we did spit your Game, Uh yeah, the Biggie joint. Yeah. 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:48.960 And then I got a chance to chop it up 1:08:49.000 --> 1:08:50.679 with Crazy Bone or let him know how it felt 1:08:50.720 --> 1:08:54.439 about the group, you know, and we just got rapped, 1:08:54.479 --> 1:08:57.599 like you know, uh, well, we'll go through like like 1:08:57.600 --> 1:08:59.639 two or three years beefing with some sit we don't 1:08:59.640 --> 1:09:01.840 even really know. We don't know if we make a 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:04.519 distract as we're doing all that, like like, like, how 1:09:04.560 --> 1:09:05.920 weird is that? Like you know what I mean? That 1:09:06.479 --> 1:09:10.320 is weird. I'm gonna tell you what's weird is having 1:09:10.360 --> 1:09:12.760 the beef with with with Trash going on at the time, 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:16.000 and this ship was so serious. We had a meeting 1:09:16.040 --> 1:09:18.519 in Chicago about this ship, you know, because you know 1:09:18.560 --> 1:09:20.240 a lot of people don't know, like that was one 1:09:20.280 --> 1:09:23.880 of the times where this was one of the reasons 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:27.599 this This is how one of the ways Twister got 1:09:27.640 --> 1:09:32.000 formed is when when I didn't get accepted from people 1:09:32.040 --> 1:09:35.280 that I was fans of. So so the Trench said 1:09:35.320 --> 1:09:37.800 a little something on the record, you know, because yeah, 1:09:37.840 --> 1:09:42.120 I didn't understand where you where Bone I understood because 1:09:42.160 --> 1:09:46.960 of the style similarity. So I didn't understand anything when 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:48.960 I heard about it then and when I when I 1:09:49.080 --> 1:09:59.479 re iterated and just look today it's we had a 1:09:59.560 --> 1:10:03.479 show Chicago. At this time they had formed the House 1:10:03.520 --> 1:10:07.400 of Pain. I saw ever Last because I knew him 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:09.599 from he used to come in the office at our records. 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:11.960 So we're talking. He like, man, let me let me 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:14.360 how at you So it's old now we can laugh 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:16.920 about it. Ever Last said, you didn't hear it from me? 1:10:18.160 --> 1:10:25.680 Trashed dished you on his new ship. What. So I 1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:28.160 go listen to the ship. I'm listen, I'm eight and 1:10:28.200 --> 1:10:30.680 I ain't hearing nothing. Then finally the record come on. 1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:34.000 I put a few blows in cargo, so you can 1:10:34.040 --> 1:10:40.000 tell twist your ass back to Chicago. What record was that? 1:10:41.160 --> 1:10:44.280 I forgot which one, but you can find it. You 1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:47.320 can find it. So I was a fan though at 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:49.880 the time. So this ship broke, I'm like, damn, you 1:10:49.920 --> 1:10:52.200 know what I mean. So I'm piste off about it. 1:10:52.280 --> 1:10:58.559 So I stopped around that time, around the time. Yeah 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:05.840 that they lit, they lived. But see then I heard 1:11:05.840 --> 1:11:08.679 stories later like people used to see my video come 1:11:08.720 --> 1:11:11.960 on and then funk with him, like, oh ship, dude, 1:11:11.960 --> 1:11:14.120 the funk you? So he got piste off and he 1:11:14.200 --> 1:11:16.679 dissed me. So then we end up having a meeting 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:19.160 in Chicago because it was like the ship seemed like 1:11:19.200 --> 1:11:21.840 it was gonna escalate into some other ship. But then 1:11:21.880 --> 1:11:26.400 the funniest ship happened. We get to to New York 1:11:26.439 --> 1:11:28.599 and we do the big gass cover for for Double 1:11:28.720 --> 1:11:31.800 x L with all the rappers and ship. We're standing there, Yeah, 1:11:31.840 --> 1:11:34.439 we're standing on the street. Who the funk walk up 1:11:34.439 --> 1:11:39.400 and ship trash. We're like, oh ship and he said, yeah, see, 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:41.479 I told you y'all in my hood. Now it's cool 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:46.000 and kept the movie was like, so, you know, that's 1:11:46.000 --> 1:11:48.479 when you learn some ship you gotta you gotta learn. 1:11:48.880 --> 1:11:51.080 This is me navigating through the industry. This is one 1:11:51.080 --> 1:11:53.320 of the things that helped me learn how to move, 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:55.840 you know. So at that time we had got a 1:11:55.840 --> 1:12:00.479 little cordial before that incident. But had it been some 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:03.160 some some ship going on, that could have been me 1:12:03.280 --> 1:12:05.200 right there. You know what I'm saying on that other 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:10.040 end right there, that's crazy that didn't that's yeah, yeah 1:12:10.120 --> 1:12:13.320 and yeah worked it out. Yeah yeah. Trenches An artists 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:21.679 always wanted to do music with Yeah, yeah, what's you say? Oh? 1:12:21.760 --> 1:12:25.000 All right, col I keep for getting you from Jersey's 1:12:25.840 --> 1:12:31.760 you gotta let it go? What about Man and Man? Yeah, 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:33.880 I'm a red Man fan. So what's your favorite what's 1:12:33.880 --> 1:12:37.240 your favorite part of the game. Is it making the 1:12:37.320 --> 1:12:41.960 music or performing the music? Because going through your catalog, 1:12:42.040 --> 1:12:44.360 I'm like, this motherfucker performed every day of the year. 1:12:44.640 --> 1:12:46.519 Just going through your catalog, I'm like, yo, yo, you 1:12:46.520 --> 1:12:49.960 could you could do any you know, I'm not trying 1:12:49.960 --> 1:12:51.800 to persrace your answer, so hold on, should Maybe I 1:12:51.800 --> 1:12:55.040 shouldn't have said that, but um, what's your what's your favorite? 1:12:55.080 --> 1:12:58.400 Is it making the music or performing the music? I 1:12:58.439 --> 1:13:01.360 think performing it? What's your guess? Was y'all guess? Yeah? 1:13:01.400 --> 1:13:04.120 Performing it? I like making it, though, but I will 1:13:04.160 --> 1:13:08.439 say performing it is more my favorite. Performing it. Yeah, yeah, 1:13:08.920 --> 1:13:11.880 you gotta explain why And wait, wait, have you ever 1:13:11.920 --> 1:13:14.160 spent something in the studio so fucking fast that you 1:13:14.200 --> 1:13:20.360 couldn't perform it? No? I make sure not to do that, like, yeah, 1:13:20.439 --> 1:13:23.040 you know, when you I try to stay truthful with 1:13:23.120 --> 1:13:27.680 the ship, like I tried to stay within the boundaries 1:13:27.840 --> 1:13:32.840 of what's possible because exactly like like everybody got their 1:13:32.840 --> 1:13:35.479 own reasons why they rapped like that. But but for me, 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:39.439 it's not just about wrapping fast. It's about how quickly 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:42.240 can you do it at a dope cadence where you 1:13:42.280 --> 1:13:46.400 can hear everything. So so when I'm making the music 1:13:46.439 --> 1:13:49.280 like that, like I try to stay within my boundaries 1:13:49.280 --> 1:13:51.599 of what I know that's humanly possible. Like I think 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:53.000 you need to take a breath right here, so I'm 1:13:53.040 --> 1:13:55.880 gonna make sure you know, just just stuff like that. 1:13:56.040 --> 1:13:59.760 So I sorry, I could him out so performing and performing, Yeah, 1:13:59.760 --> 1:14:03.439 so performing I like it better because even when I'm 1:14:03.479 --> 1:14:07.639 making music, making music comes from performing in my head, 1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:10.840 you know, when you when you're writing these lyrics. Most 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:13.599 of the time, like a lot of artists unconsciously even 1:14:13.640 --> 1:14:16.960 realized that they placed themselves in the middle of a 1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:19.599 rap battle or concert or something when they're coming up 1:14:19.640 --> 1:14:23.000 with the rhymes and they look at the audience react 1:14:23.040 --> 1:14:25.280 to the lyric in their mind, and then they say, yes, 1:14:25.360 --> 1:14:27.720 I don't go with it, you know. So a lot 1:14:27.760 --> 1:14:31.080 of my creativity comes from performing in my mind. So 1:14:31.120 --> 1:14:33.040 at the end of the day, to actually get to 1:14:33.080 --> 1:14:37.880 do it in person, that's what a full thrill make. 1:14:37.960 --> 1:14:44.439 Some looks for that, I believe you show you don't 1:14:44.479 --> 1:14:46.400 want to shout at this Japanese whiskey. This is that 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:49.400 good ship man, it's doing me ain't good enough right here. 1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:52.680 And let's just be clear, the reason why you don't 1:14:52.760 --> 1:14:57.640 drink like that is because you're a gun instructor. You 1:14:57.640 --> 1:14:59.320 know that. The dude that being a call like this 1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:03.640 car Yeah no, not not how you do this? You 1:15:03.680 --> 1:15:05.280 know what you want? The guy, that dude, he's like, 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:08.000 he's huge, don't he gonna get somebody killed. He was 1:15:08.040 --> 1:15:12.640 like this, if a person comes up to you, you 1:15:12.680 --> 1:15:14.920 know what I'm talking about. He's a gun instructor that 1:15:15.080 --> 1:15:17.640 he's telling you about. He's something to martial artists. Kid, 1:15:17.720 --> 1:15:19.120 gotta be up. You don't know what I'm talking about. 1:15:19.280 --> 1:15:21.120 You know exactly what you're talking about. You know, one 1:15:21.120 --> 1:15:24.439 of my buddies in Chicago is killing it doing doing 1:15:24.520 --> 1:15:27.679 like parodies of that dude right now. Okay, because he's 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:30.960 hen get somebody hurt. You're not listening to him right 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:37.280 different when you bet not listen to him, explain, So 1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:39.920 explain what what he just said? You said, your fire 1:15:40.040 --> 1:15:45.280 arms instructor. Yeah, just uh, like the firearms instructor. Like 1:15:45.360 --> 1:15:47.640 so if you want to get your cacealed carry or 1:15:47.640 --> 1:15:51.320 something like that, or just do advanced firearm training technical shooting, 1:15:51.640 --> 1:15:55.280 you teach that. Yeah, mostly mostly how to shoot in general, 1:15:55.400 --> 1:15:57.200 some defensive show. What if you had a fella me, 1:15:57.280 --> 1:16:01.680 could I still go? Oh man? He's like, baby, I 1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:04.280 shouldn't have said. You know, we we we probably get 1:16:04.320 --> 1:16:05.960 you in a situation where we get some people to 1:16:05.960 --> 1:16:08.960 see if you can get it expunge, and then after 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:11.840 that situation then you can't. So we have had people 1:16:11.880 --> 1:16:14.040 that have had felonies before they got their record of 1:16:14.080 --> 1:16:17.360 sponging and was able to get the Yeah tell them 1:16:17.400 --> 1:16:20.760 look out for me. So yeah, because they got the 1:16:20.760 --> 1:16:28.000 hook up on that. But it's spongement. Holy movie with you. 1:16:28.800 --> 1:16:31.000 But so, well, what made you get into that? You 1:16:31.040 --> 1:16:34.720 just you love firearms? Just seeing you like, I have 1:16:34.760 --> 1:16:37.679 a whole rhyme about the gun. Yeah, just that's doing 1:16:37.760 --> 1:16:40.160 like a rap review like you have, uh you've got 1:16:40.160 --> 1:16:42.320 guys that do gun reviews and then you know, giving 1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:44.559 the description of the gun. So my version is like 1:16:44.600 --> 1:16:47.240 a rap review of a gun that I might like 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:49.720 or something like that. But you know, just really just 1:16:49.760 --> 1:16:53.360 passionate about the whole fire stuff. So U s c 1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:58.400 C A instructor, n A instructor? How people are visualizing 1:16:58.479 --> 1:17:01.439 the cargoys being bad outside of like downtown and things 1:17:01.439 --> 1:17:03.639 like that. What all the things going on is it? 1:17:03.680 --> 1:17:06.880 Is it is it that easy to just get guns? 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:10.920 And I'm talking about obviously, Yeah, I mean that's the problem. 1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:15.000 The problem is is illegal guns. That's the problem right 1:17:15.040 --> 1:17:18.080 there is is guns getting in the hands of uh 1:17:18.280 --> 1:17:20.839 people that shouldn't have them. You know, that's the problem. 1:17:20.840 --> 1:17:23.439 And I think you know, education is part of the key, 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:26.320 even though that's happening. I think when you re educate 1:17:26.360 --> 1:17:28.439 the mind about a firearm, because we used to just 1:17:28.479 --> 1:17:30.880 growing up here and rappers talk about yeah yeah, you 1:17:30.960 --> 1:17:33.800 never really heard a person rap about a gun and 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:38.800 a flyway or something, you know, something different. Yeah, yeah, 1:17:38.880 --> 1:17:40.920 having respect for the weapon. I mean, you know, like 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:43.360 I said, I do competition shooting and stuff like that. 1:17:43.439 --> 1:17:46.240 So I try to change the whole narrative and perspective 1:17:46.240 --> 1:17:49.720 about guns because I think education and perception is one 1:17:49.760 --> 1:17:52.040 of the keys to help stir what's going on the 1:17:52.080 --> 1:17:54.320 other way, you know what I mean. So what are 1:17:54.360 --> 1:17:59.400 your favorite guns? Pick two? An assault right for the hangar? 1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:03.720 It's all rightful, what's that you can't talk about it? 1:18:04.000 --> 1:18:07.040 I'm cool now. I saw you posted this. I want 1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:08.599 to I wanted you to tell me how I could 1:18:08.600 --> 1:18:12.479 get it. The one that collapsed a R A R. Yeah, 1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:14.360 it collapsed into like almost it looked like, Yeah, it's 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:17.800 called folding AYR. Yeah, companies called folding they are, And yeah, 1:18:17.920 --> 1:18:21.240 that's that's that's a dope one right there. But it's 1:18:21.240 --> 1:18:23.360 an a AR that folds, it falls into like it 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.200 almost looks like a handgun at one point. But you know, 1:18:25.240 --> 1:18:27.360 AYR doesn't mean it's alt rifle. It's the first two 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:29.960 letters in the company arem al oh, so it's not 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:32.920 an a R fifteen automatically, I mean I'm a like 1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:36.600 model fifteen was just the first two letters in the 1:18:36.600 --> 1:18:40.280 company that Republican though, right, I'm not a poltical. If 1:18:40.320 --> 1:18:51.280 he was, I'm neutru Yeah, I'm neutrul with you. Holy 1:18:51.320 --> 1:18:56.000 sh it, what do you do? Joe Byra, Joe by Byron, 1:18:59.200 --> 1:19:08.880 So what's that Japanese? Listen? Joe Biden's disappointed men that 1:19:09.040 --> 1:19:15.400 think it ain't been outside live? What's going on? What 1:19:15.560 --> 1:19:17.800 a big up Trump at all? But at least you 1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:21.080 felt Trump like you you felt his presence. No one 1:19:21.240 --> 1:19:25.760 isn't outside. One was outside too much. I don't even 1:19:25.800 --> 1:19:28.120 know I got a president like I don't feel like 1:19:28.200 --> 1:19:31.320 as an American, like come on, bro, like, come on, bro, 1:19:31.479 --> 1:19:33.519 come on, come on to come out here outside right now? 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:37.280 That rushed right now. I'm definitely not rocking with what's 1:19:37.320 --> 1:19:39.280 going on right now. You know, it's a lot of things, 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:41.720 you know, going on and all that I ain't really 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:44.200 rocking with with no situation, just trying to take my 1:19:44.280 --> 1:19:48.320 guns away. Neither but you know, you know, I'll stand 1:19:48.400 --> 1:19:51.120 up for the Second Amendment. So but you know, so 1:19:51.200 --> 1:19:53.880 you know, you know you're not taking Joe by the dinner. No, 1:19:54.160 --> 1:19:59.840 he can't go to dinner. I'm straight Holy this is 1:20:00.760 --> 1:20:02.960 but you see the handgun? What handgun would you pay? 1:20:05.640 --> 1:20:11.360 Oh yeah, someone's picking the handgun for it's it's a 1:20:11.520 --> 1:20:13.760 it's a bunch of choices. But right now I'm gonna 1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:17.560 say staccato, man, I like the coccato exc or staccato. 1:20:19.280 --> 1:20:22.880 Mm okay, what what browns does that shoot? What kind 1:20:22.880 --> 1:20:27.760 of rounds? Not Miller met rounds. Yeah, yeah, that's that's 1:20:27.800 --> 1:20:31.040 a good one. Ceazy Shadow too, I like them too. Yeah, 1:20:32.040 --> 1:20:35.120 Holy mobile. Now you got the joint hope with Faith Evans. 1:20:36.080 --> 1:20:39.559 Say it again, the joint hope with faiv Evan. Yeah, yeah, 1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:45.320 very dope. But she's drink Champs a little night. He 1:20:45.439 --> 1:20:48.519 loves man. I just put that together that record. Uh, 1:20:48.640 --> 1:20:50.720 Atlantic had a lot to do with that record, and 1:20:50.920 --> 1:20:53.280 uh she was on Atlantic as well. Yeah, she was 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:56.840 on Atlantic as well, and that record. Uh it was 1:20:57.000 --> 1:21:00.120 used for I forget the name of the show, but 1:21:00.200 --> 1:21:04.080 it was a family that one of the home and 1:21:04.520 --> 1:21:08.120 the show was involved in helping uh families get homes 1:21:08.400 --> 1:21:11.400 and the little girl in the show like hope. It 1:21:11.520 --> 1:21:13.960 was one of her favorite songs. So we got a 1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:16.080 chance to kind of take that song a little further, 1:21:16.160 --> 1:21:18.160 which is really one of the reasons I made the song, Like, 1:21:18.200 --> 1:21:19.519 I'm like, man, I want to try to do something 1:21:19.520 --> 1:21:22.320 dope with this song. Now, let it just be something normal, 1:21:22.479 --> 1:21:24.240 you know. So when she got on it and then 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:26.040 we got a chance to get involved with that whole thing, 1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:28.840 that was dope, you know. Yeah, that was vib with that. 1:21:28.880 --> 1:21:34.120 And you also did a game show. Damn did what 1:21:34.320 --> 1:21:41.760 game show it was? It was? It was eximt one true. 1:21:42.160 --> 1:21:46.240 So I don't even remember that ship. You get a 1:21:46.280 --> 1:21:52.720 lot of money, man, you get don't now? I remember? Yeah, 1:21:54.040 --> 1:21:55.920 I remember I was in and out like a thief 1:21:55.960 --> 1:21:58.439 in the night because you talk with that type ship, like, 1:21:58.560 --> 1:22:02.400 because they also did the Netflix show t I A 1:22:02.560 --> 1:22:05.800 the Juge. Yeah, you with that type of ship doing 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:09.800 reality or its gotta be something I'm interested in. Can't 1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:12.160 just be like just off the fly. You know. If 1:22:12.200 --> 1:22:14.360 it's something that I like or I'm interested in, I'm 1:22:14.400 --> 1:22:19.320 with it. But you know about Podcaster, Yeah, if it's 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:21.679 something I like, yeah, Yeah, as long as the subject 1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:26.280 matter podcasting about firears, about firears, it's gonna be lit. Yeah. 1:22:27.400 --> 1:22:33.479 So yeah, I'm actually working on something. But you're just 1:22:33.520 --> 1:22:35.920 gonna shoot it up now. I ain't just gonna shoot 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:37.880 it up. I mean that would be hard to record that. 1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:43.400 I mean, you know, we do have a you know, 1:22:43.560 --> 1:22:47.240 outdoor range, outdoor range, damn, you know. And it's black 1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:52.879 people shooting. Yeah, yeah, accurate, black people shooting accurately and safely. 1:22:53.160 --> 1:22:56.920 That's safely. Yes, on the phone. Yeah, is it a 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:59.720 pharm or it's like a Yeah, it's a phone. And 1:22:59.800 --> 1:23:04.960 it's Illinois. It's not your cargo. Yeah, this is Illinois. Okay, cools, 1:23:05.640 --> 1:23:07.160 you gotta come out and shoot with me one day, 1:23:07.320 --> 1:23:10.760 can't you can't. Can we bring it down here? Can 1:23:10.760 --> 1:23:12.439 we go down here? Yeah? We can do it down 1:23:12.479 --> 1:23:16.160 here too. Yeah. Yeah, we'll sponsor, We'll do something. Yeah. Yeah, 1:23:17.439 --> 1:23:22.040 not bb guns. This is I got a few. You 1:23:22.240 --> 1:23:26.120 guys know, you gotta I got I got something for you. 1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:29.880 I got something for you. Now we bring have more things. Man, 1:23:30.840 --> 1:23:32.360 twist the man. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like 1:23:32.400 --> 1:23:34.519 taking another shot before we let you go. You gotta 1:23:34.680 --> 1:23:37.240 got more? Are we good? Come on, come on, anybody else, 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:41.640 Come on, come on, bro who because you want to 1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:43.880 take a shot. It's Japanese whiskey and get your life right, 1:23:46.800 --> 1:23:53.120 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I will say this 1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:56.320 is what what advice would you give artists? To have 1:23:56.479 --> 1:23:58.600 the long jell that you had that's very true, and 1:23:58.720 --> 1:24:01.720 to stay to stay consistent with the style you want. 1:24:01.760 --> 1:24:05.120 You know, you you stay true to your style. That's 1:24:05.160 --> 1:24:08.479 the one main thing is really nothing is more important 1:24:08.479 --> 1:24:11.160 than being really yourself, because you will get caught up 1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:14.519 in somebody else hype fast and you will start curving 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:16.479 your ship to sound like they ship and looking like 1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:18.439 you know, you know what I'm talking about, right, you know. 1:24:19.520 --> 1:24:22.479 So the main thing is to stick with your ship, 1:24:22.720 --> 1:24:24.439 you know. And then you gotta know it's a youth 1:24:24.560 --> 1:24:27.400 driven sport too, you know. So when you listen to music, 1:24:27.960 --> 1:24:30.360 a lot of times I'll see when artists start to 1:24:30.400 --> 1:24:32.880 say certain ship is whack or they don't like certain ship. 1:24:33.439 --> 1:24:36.360 That's when you're starting to lose touch a little bit, 1:24:36.840 --> 1:24:39.120 you know what. You as soon as you say that 1:24:39.240 --> 1:24:42.120 ship whack wrong like that, that's when your ass getting old. 1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:45.559 When they come to you know that my state of music. 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:50.360 So I think the other ship is whack though, I mean, 1:24:50.360 --> 1:24:52.920 you can't say everything is though. I'm not saying everything 1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:55.920 is dope, but definitely not saying. When you're saying something 1:24:56.120 --> 1:25:00.960 is whacked that's winning, then you gotta ask, you know, 1:25:01.080 --> 1:25:03.960 it's a reason it's winning. But it's certain citing. That's 1:25:04.160 --> 1:25:06.960 a fat a fade that you could tell they got 1:25:07.040 --> 1:25:09.920 they got a great six months and then it's gonna 1:25:09.960 --> 1:25:12.800 go away. Then there's certain CITs like I don't understand it. 1:25:14.160 --> 1:25:16.040 I might not like it, but I'm gonna respect it. 1:25:17.120 --> 1:25:19.720 But then there's there's this gimmicks going on. Not to 1:25:19.760 --> 1:25:22.280 say it wasn't gimmicks going on in the nineties. See, 1:25:22.320 --> 1:25:26.000 I was the way I was raised on from him, 1:25:27.439 --> 1:25:31.120 let's breaking the ship is whack, man, because you know 1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:35.040 New York motherfucker's is gonna you know, it's whack. The 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:41.760 ship is whacking. And I came up off. Yeah, so 1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:44.400 that's my vibe right there. So some ship is just whack. 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:48.800 But for the most part, there's a reason why something 1:25:48.960 --> 1:25:51.559 is winning. If something is whacked a lot of times, 1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:54.639 even like I've heard whack ship, but then it'll be winning. 1:25:55.080 --> 1:25:57.840 So I'll pay more attention to it and then I'll 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:04.200 have a production could be dope the program. You know 1:26:04.280 --> 1:26:06.080 what it is. We don't want to be that old 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:09.200 nigga that turned into the hater m So when we 1:26:09.360 --> 1:26:11.680 know that, so we we don't want to be like 1:26:11.920 --> 1:26:13.960 look at that, you know back in my day. Like, 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:15.840 we don't want to keep me like that. So you say, 1:26:15.840 --> 1:26:19.160 all right, cool, and you like start participating certain and 1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:21.920 ship and certain Ship is like not right, Yeah, it's 1:26:21.920 --> 1:26:24.800 not right. It's not right. But you gotta figure out 1:26:24.880 --> 1:26:29.000 like what I've always taken out of boys, that's different, bro, No, 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:33.560 that's not too far difference. I went too far. You 1:26:33.640 --> 1:26:37.680 went too far. You went too far. He man, hey man, 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:40.479 they're getting money. Man, they're getting money. We don't know 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:49.400 what they hopefully hopefully hopefully going too far. Yeah, now 1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:51.120 what would you saying? What was what was you saying? 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:56.439 He wanted to hear spend something? I have been sipping 1:26:56.439 --> 1:26:59.800 that ship? That's that? Is it? That? You know what? 1:27:00.160 --> 1:27:03.200 Won't come out? This is a spade. This is the 1:27:03.280 --> 1:27:08.719 finest from the albums out Mountains of Everywhere. It won't 1:27:08.760 --> 1:27:11.519 come out come and see me giving about it. You 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:12.920 gotta be gotta be up in the rhythm with about it, 1:27:13.080 --> 1:27:14.280 the level bit of me a bit about it. What 1:27:14.840 --> 1:27:22.680 was the matter with that man? Almost what y'all tell 1:27:22.720 --> 1:27:24.160 you about to grab that put it on the verse 1:27:24.240 --> 1:27:29.800 with him. He's gonna spend on that holy ship. That 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:34.640 was all. That's all. So do you still love the 1:27:34.680 --> 1:27:41.360 game the same way? Um? I love it differently. I 1:27:41.360 --> 1:27:44.160 wouldn't say the same way. Not the same way. Um 1:27:45.920 --> 1:27:48.719 it's different. I would say I still love making music. 1:27:48.800 --> 1:27:51.960 I still love creating music. But what makes me love 1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:56.799 it differently is other things going on that I realized 1:27:56.880 --> 1:27:59.680 that I can take my music and bridge it with 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:02.680 with what I do, even with the with the with 1:28:02.840 --> 1:28:05.360 me being a firearms instructor, and just knowing that I 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:07.920 could take my music and literally rap about the stuff 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:10.439 I'm doing like I'm telling you, um me doing a 1:28:10.560 --> 1:28:13.599 sixty second gun review, stuff like that, just being able 1:28:13.640 --> 1:28:15.519 to play with it. So the one thing with with 1:28:15.720 --> 1:28:19.040 music is I think you have to find ways to 1:28:19.280 --> 1:28:23.120 keep making keep making it passionate to you. So you 1:28:23.200 --> 1:28:26.000 got yeah to to anybody you know, you gotta Sometimes 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:28.240 when when you start to lose your passion for music, 1:28:28.920 --> 1:28:34.080 try to find something else that's going on. And yeah, yeah, 1:28:34.240 --> 1:28:37.519 keep yourself relevant to yourself, but also find what what 1:28:37.680 --> 1:28:40.080 else that you may be passionate about and try to 1:28:40.120 --> 1:28:42.479 see if you can use some of that and put 1:28:42.520 --> 1:28:43.880 it over here with what you know how to do. 1:28:44.080 --> 1:28:46.080 When when in terms of music, if you still want 1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:50.360 to do it, you know you fell out of love 1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:55.479 of music before. Yeah all the time? Is it the 1:28:55.600 --> 1:29:00.720 music or because the game is different? Thing? The game? 1:29:01.040 --> 1:29:03.960 The game? Because the game the fans is always great. Yeah, 1:29:04.120 --> 1:29:08.960 so it's it's always great. But everything it was fuck 1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:11.839 up about it, even having to learn the music business, 1:29:12.479 --> 1:29:14.559 like you would think, like everything is supposed to be fair. 1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:18.040 We all, you know what I'm saying, love the same culture. 1:29:18.560 --> 1:29:20.559 You gotta realize, dam I can't even trust this guy. 1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:23.120 I gotta actually, I actually gotta read and I just 1:29:23.200 --> 1:29:25.479 gotta know this and I gotta you know, go through that. 1:29:25.840 --> 1:29:28.720 Yeah what was was that something you have to go through? Yeah? 1:29:29.040 --> 1:29:32.160 Hell yeah all the time. Like I had years of 1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:36.120 my life or years of my rap career shaved off 1:29:36.800 --> 1:29:39.639 from going through label drama stuff like that. So yeah, 1:29:39.680 --> 1:29:41.720 I was like, to me, I was one of the 1:29:41.840 --> 1:29:44.160 artists that got the worst of that type of ship. 1:29:44.680 --> 1:29:48.000 You know. So the worst of of of label drama 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:50.320 or not being able to put out music or dealing 1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:53.439 with drama with labels. Yeah, he wasn't throwing chairs were 1:29:53.640 --> 1:29:56.960 here unless she was stors. I wasn't throwing chairs. I 1:29:57.080 --> 1:30:04.240 might have threw a few words, but shit, did I 1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:06.600 cuss crag out before? I might have cus create the 1:30:06.680 --> 1:30:09.040 funk out one time. He probably used to it, but 1:30:09.120 --> 1:30:13.439 he used to this ship. Yeah, you took your Japanese whiskey. 1:30:18.160 --> 1:30:21.679 It's what's saying. This is the dark side. You stayed, 1:30:21.720 --> 1:30:24.560 you stayed in, you stayed in the champagne section. We 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:30.200 respect that there's no sex in the champagne room. Man. Yeah, 1:30:32.479 --> 1:30:36.080 and he pouring heavy still he ain't learned, man. So 1:30:36.200 --> 1:30:40.800 you fucking strip clubs when we when we gotta go there, 1:30:41.400 --> 1:30:43.760 you know? So that's not what what? What what do 1:30:44.360 --> 1:30:48.040 you do? Shoot? You go out there? You just shooting 1:30:48.120 --> 1:30:54.840 shot people? What the shooting? Come on? That's that's that's 1:30:55.000 --> 1:30:57.320 that's your your version of fun on the night where 1:30:57.320 --> 1:30:59.840 you could just go out kill. You're going out and 1:31:00.000 --> 1:31:01.960 you want to go to shoot. We're probably going on 1:31:02.040 --> 1:31:03.880 the farm and shooting some a RS and a K. 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:07.040 I released a lot of stress doing that. You're hunt 1:31:07.080 --> 1:31:11.120 into just not yet, but I'm about to start getting 1:31:11.120 --> 1:31:14.360 into some hunting. Yeah yeah, are you going all in 1:31:14.640 --> 1:31:18.240 what we're hunting? Sir? Man? If I go out there 1:31:18.280 --> 1:31:20.280 and chill with y'all, want to clear me with the 1:31:20.360 --> 1:31:22.960 army some boards or something, you know, like my whole thing. 1:31:23.000 --> 1:31:26.320 If my hunt, it's gotta be something that that's gonna 1:31:26.439 --> 1:31:29.560 be for a reason, a good reason. So like that 1:31:29.680 --> 1:31:39.080 we could eat he came through he never comes through down. 1:31:43.200 --> 1:31:50.080 Yeah huh. Yeah, that's the hardest record. That's you're broke 1:31:50.200 --> 1:32:01.000 right there. So yeah, yeah, pop that. Yeah. Yeah, so 1:32:02.640 --> 1:32:04.639 that's what that's what we're doing for fun, be going 1:32:04.720 --> 1:32:08.519 out Yeah, man, you know, I'm I'm you know in 1:32:08.640 --> 1:32:11.040 my thing. I'm training a lot too because you know, 1:32:11.080 --> 1:32:14.280 I'm under the competitive shooting, so I'm always training and shot. 1:32:15.400 --> 1:32:18.519 So let's just be clear because I asked anybody this, So, 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:22.640 how much pussy do you think you got to your 1:32:25.040 --> 1:32:28.320 your We're like, yeah, I mean you're not married no more. 1:32:28.360 --> 1:32:31.720 I googled it, right, Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm. 1:32:31.960 --> 1:32:34.160 I still got a family and everything, so you know, 1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:37.880 I probably had my fun in my lifetime and you 1:32:37.960 --> 1:32:40.439 have a big you know, I know how I didn't 1:32:40.439 --> 1:32:43.280 have a big Your playlist was crazy today when I 1:32:43.360 --> 1:32:46.360 was going through it, I'm like, I was just calculated. 1:32:46.439 --> 1:32:47.800 I was like, you know how this is comedy because 1:32:47.800 --> 1:32:49.360 the money. I was just calculating the pussy there. I 1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:51.400 think you figure about you know what I'm saying, like 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:57.960 we have fun, We have fun fun. It was a 1:32:58.000 --> 1:33:01.599 little celebrities. No, you knocked down a couple of roose 1:33:02.360 --> 1:33:05.360 No Celem. There's no celem for whatever love it makes 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:12.439 space to know the motherfucker twist coming back. My back 1:33:12.520 --> 1:33:16.799 got crazy and a little worry about it. You're married 1:33:18.120 --> 1:33:26.519 to tell You're like, yeah, we've been outside. Uh see yo, 1:33:27.439 --> 1:33:32.160 so how how crazy? How crazy is it? Oh? No, no, no, 1:33:32.280 --> 1:33:34.320 we off that like just just being you know what 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:36.920 I mean, like because you know, like like we said, 1:33:36.960 --> 1:33:39.599 like you know, from seeing Shytown, you know, coming from 1:33:39.840 --> 1:33:41.760 the error where you and Carmen and then seeing like 1:33:41.840 --> 1:33:44.800 all this drill things happen and people are and then 1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:47.760 you know with the Kanye and even everyone like the 1:33:47.800 --> 1:33:50.320 people having the light on y'all city, Like you know 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:53.800 what I'm saying, like, how ya like you know, like 1:33:53.880 --> 1:33:56.920 you've seen the whole process, right you pretty much? Man? Uhuh, 1:33:58.680 --> 1:34:02.639 get a lot, man, it's been interest. He told a lie. 1:34:03.240 --> 1:34:07.360 You know, I'm saying he took. He's a good guy 1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:08.960 and I forgot to say that, Brad. Right then I 1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:12.040 didn't say that, Brad. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about the Yeah, 1:34:12.160 --> 1:34:14.960 that's my girl problems. That's the homie. You know what 1:34:14.960 --> 1:34:17.040 I'm saying. No, the brand and shower of my sisters. 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:23.559 Are you Are you drunk? Yeah? Sho you want another? 1:34:23.600 --> 1:34:25.960 You want another? Shout of japan taking? Yeah, that's it 1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:30.120 ended out. Some shut it out. He's going into it out. Man, 1:34:32.040 --> 1:34:35.479 you end it out to drink? Say to drink that? 1:34:35.520 --> 1:34:37.200 Do say too that we want it's closer to you. 1:34:38.439 --> 1:34:40.960 Come on, what do you want that the Japanese? Come 1:34:41.040 --> 1:34:46.599 get that Japanese. Yeah, let me get the champagne. Okay, yeah, 1:34:46.640 --> 1:34:50.200 let's got you the champagne. Baby damn. Yeah, Papa new 1:34:50.240 --> 1:34:55.680 one too, if you want. I know what's going on 1:34:55.920 --> 1:35:06.200 over and now we're started once again once again. Like 1:35:06.240 --> 1:35:07.880 I said, man, you know, we just want to give 1:35:07.920 --> 1:35:10.559 people their fliers while they're alive, you know what I mean? 1:35:11.240 --> 1:35:13.080 And people, you know, every time you're in this game, 1:35:13.120 --> 1:35:15.240 people get ten years or more. They want to tell 1:35:15.240 --> 1:35:16.920 you you washed up. They want to say we don't 1:35:16.960 --> 1:35:19.599 want that here. We're gonna pick up our legends. We're 1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:21.880 gonna always salute our legends. Thank you, give you to 1:35:21.960 --> 1:35:23.360 your face and you know what I mean. We ain't 1:35:23.360 --> 1:35:25.439 afraid to say. You know, all niggas is great. We're 1:35:25.439 --> 1:35:27.080 gonna hold it down. You know what I mean. Thank 1:35:27.120 --> 1:35:28.560 you for being a part of that. Think you'll for 1:35:28.640 --> 1:35:37.040 coming out. Appreciate me, y'all got y'all got mean? Did 1:35:37.120 --> 1:35:40.920 we just take some flip? You get loose now? I 1:35:40.960 --> 1:35:42.599 don't know if I don't know, if you wrap it up, 1:35:43.200 --> 1:35:45.240 feel like you still it, feel like you ain't done. No, 1:35:45.400 --> 1:35:52.479 I'm good. Thanks for joining us for another episode of 1:35:52.560 --> 1:35:55.040 Drink Champs hosten Boy, yours truly, d J E f 1:35:55.080 --> 1:35:57.639 F and n R E. 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