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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink chas motherfucking podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper, he'saigree that's your boy Nor

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Speaker 1: he's a Miami hippop pioneer d J e f N.

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Speaker 1: Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players

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Speaker 1: in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one

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Speaker 1: sorts for drunk drinks. Motherfucks New year Z. That's for

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Speaker 1: Drinking Champs. Trick up, motherfucker up. Would a good be

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Speaker 1: hoping he would should be? This your boy and o

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Speaker 1: R What up is d J e f N. This

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Speaker 1: drink has motherfucking yapia makes up right now. When we

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Speaker 1: talk about legends, you talk about the man who has

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Speaker 1: been consistent since the nineties, kept it out there, kept

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Speaker 1: it going. When I googled him, this was kind of crazy,

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Speaker 1: today was, well, it was kind of crazy to today was.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how many people you were beating with.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I was like, wow, like she just

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Speaker 1: kept leaving me the other ship and understand. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's get back to I mean, the man is a

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Speaker 1: we can't call him a he's a super legend. You

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Speaker 1: know when you you could really say this, but when

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Speaker 1: you think of a city, you think of a man

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Speaker 1: that was there, like that's that's who. He's there, holding

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Speaker 1: down the whole city and just keep getting better and

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Speaker 1: better and better and better. And at first like was like,

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Speaker 1: what's going on here? You realize he's saying ship it's

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Speaker 1: not you know, you know what I mean. It's in

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Speaker 1: case you don't know who what we're talking about. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about one the only motherfucker' twister Mason not twist.

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Speaker 1: You literally got songs with everybody. Yeah, literally the Champagne.

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Speaker 1: It's the Champagne going we are looking crazy, man, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? You're so but you got songs

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Speaker 1: with everybody. Yeah, it's a bunch of people. Man. So

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Speaker 1: so what is that like you do like collaborating? Is

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Speaker 1: that something that's that's that's uh yeah, yeah, I love

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Speaker 1: collaborating one just off the top, just just you know,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's my craft. I like doing it. But

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Speaker 1: the other thing too, is like you got a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that won't get on a song for a

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Speaker 1: particular reason or they might think it's or something like that. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about like they're collaborating with with with somebody else.

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Speaker 1: They might uh not want to do a song because

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Speaker 1: they don't like it. But me, like, I'll hear a

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Speaker 1: song and I'll find a way or reason to be

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Speaker 1: able to do it and still pull out of it

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Speaker 1: what I want to. So that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I do a lot of collap bals. What's your favorite

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Speaker 1: collap was with rappers or R and B singers because

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Speaker 1: you got both equally? Oh that's a harbor. Probably probably

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Speaker 1: rapp Us, you know, you know, because I get to go,

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Speaker 1: you know, back and forth with somebody and then a

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Speaker 1: lot of times you still have an R and B

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Speaker 1: singer on there too, So probably rapp Us. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So let's take it back West side of Chicago, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got notes and ship Kate Town area. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: let's say let's take us to the Yeah, you Kate

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Speaker 1: Town area, and this is where you start, this is

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Speaker 1: where you developed because I heard you they said that

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Speaker 1: you learned it through a stereo. You was listening to

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Speaker 1: hip hop and you you felt like, what's the earliest

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Speaker 1: stuff you were here, the earliest stuff that inspired you.

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Speaker 1: I mean really like listening to see I was on

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Speaker 1: the West side of Chicago, but we we had uh

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Speaker 1: Chill on on the on the South side, and he

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Speaker 1: played a lot of hip hop and you know the Mecca,

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Speaker 1: you know, New York. It was a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: really got like advanced because I was able to hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of records that a lot of people wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have heard if JP Chill wasn't playing them joint so

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Speaker 1: so so I was just really the manager Eric de

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Speaker 1: Wiz right too, right, yeah, okay, And he worked for

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Speaker 1: the radio station. Yeah, he was working for the radio stations.

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Speaker 1: And you took you do how like? Because like I

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Speaker 1: just asked Pat Poost this because he kind of got

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Speaker 1: for Pat Poots. He was telling me that was a

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Speaker 1: negative because people always would be like, well, uk Slave, boy,

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Speaker 1: you don't need my help. Yeah, I mean it definitely

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Speaker 1: was some hurdles in there, you know, it was from hurdles,

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Speaker 1: you know, not not really being accepted. It wasn't a

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Speaker 1: lot of Chicago hip hop artist gap. So we was new,

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Speaker 1: you know, coming from the city. You know, so like,

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Speaker 1: let let's go. Do you want to why the sea?

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Speaker 1: I think I think what we're going on? Like in

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Speaker 1: New York we see that ship, were like what the

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Speaker 1: man we was? We was around him a lot. Man

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Speaker 1: you had, you had Bishop Bishop, so him being from Chicago,

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Speaker 1: we was coming outside. He was on Madison Street. We're

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Speaker 1: seeing him every day, you know, so him, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the guys around. You know. It was just the

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Speaker 1: vibe and then the music, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of a lot with the music.

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Speaker 1: Then my man A K from dew or Die. He

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Speaker 1: was the one that you know, came to me with

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Speaker 1: the song like let's you know, like I want you

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Speaker 1: the vibe that we was on at the time. You know,

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Speaker 1: you ever pimped, No, I ain't question you dry for

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Speaker 1: half an hour. It didn't work for half I ain't

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Speaker 1: got that one. Now. Trust we know you're in the

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Speaker 1: gun camp and all that, But today we want you

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Speaker 1: to know this is drink chance. This about we celebrate

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Speaker 1: our artists. It's about time you get your motherfucking flowers.

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Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. We're gonna drink some champagne. Which, look,

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Speaker 1: you just told us you play out at least at

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Speaker 1: least in your mind a little bit, right me too.

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Speaker 1: Don't work for people. We're gonna celebrate you. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: drink up this goddamn champagne. You're gonna have some drinks

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Speaker 1: with me. Man, Come on that I might take one.

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on now, come on. Oh you know

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Speaker 1: you know the day of the show is called drink camps. Right,

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Speaker 1: let me pull you up, Let me pull you up.

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Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, let me pull you up. So what

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Speaker 1: you've been up to? Man? Man? You already know. Man,

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Speaker 1: just doing doing a lot of a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of instructing, a lot of shooting. You know, still

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Speaker 1: doing my music thing. You know, I got some businesses going,

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Speaker 1: you know, still out here moving around and enjoying my life.

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Speaker 1: You know, trying to uh, how you adapting to social media? Um?

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Speaker 1: It was crazy at first, I think for everybody, but

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Speaker 1: you really are passionate about something, you know, because people

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Speaker 1: you came from Chipler's circuit, like you know, like when

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Speaker 1: Nis like that was the real chip from you have

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Speaker 1: to you have to actually go to the clubs to

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Speaker 1: get these fans exactly, just go online and get these fans?

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Speaker 1: Are you cool with that? Is that take you to

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Speaker 1: your drink? So? I think it's uh, I think it's

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Speaker 1: come on, what's going on here? On? You adapt into? Um,

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Speaker 1: you're adapted into I think. Um. I think with with

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Speaker 1: So and then you had a few people, you know,

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Speaker 1: you had a few artists. You ain't you didn't have

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Speaker 1: So I think, you know, it's kind of hand in hand,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think one way is harder than the other.

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Speaker 1: I think right now it's eating like it's easy to

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Speaker 1: and ship too, right, you're this precious? Remember this who precious? No,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't mean man the actor. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember the situation that happened. Yeah, what happened? You know,

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Speaker 1: someone's going on with my social media. You know some

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Speaker 1: some some people was working with social media at the time,

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Speaker 1: and and uh got a little too loose with with

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Speaker 1: the fingers, you know, because you know that definitely ain't

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Speaker 1: my vibe, you know for sure, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of the true fans they already know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, that wasn't twisted. That wasn't twisted. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, my apologies to her too. I

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Speaker 1: did apologize, but yeah, that wasn't my vibes. Make some

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Speaker 1: noise for that. But let's let's go back. How did

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Speaker 1: you get into chopping? Like? What inspired you to start fast?

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Speaker 1: As you started rhyming? Um, you know you might have

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Speaker 1: Then it would be like a spurt Head, then a

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Speaker 1: to make a whole song like that. You know, you

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Speaker 1: start hearing other rappers doing what you're doing a little

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Speaker 1: me make a whole verse like this, you know. So

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Speaker 1: then I made this verse called Mr. The Tongue Twister.

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Speaker 1: Then that's when everybody's yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know,

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Speaker 1: then I just dropped the tongue calling twister. You know.

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Speaker 1: So the other rappers they were young, You was tongue.

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Speaker 1: Look at this dude, you know. Did you and the

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Speaker 1: dude from Nicks every battle. I don't know why I

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Speaker 1: keep feeling like I heard that. No we didn't. We

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Speaker 1: was spitting on my level. We saw each other that Uh.

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Speaker 1: and we saw each other and just yeah, chick foo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but uh, you know, we caught that vibe, but we

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Speaker 1: ended up chopping it up, you know. So so we

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Speaker 1: you know, we still probably end up doing something. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: chick foo, we we actually had a little fear for

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Speaker 1: each other. I was listening to that style. I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: let's killing it, and then he was listening to me, like,

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Speaker 1: surely killing you know. So we chopped it up about

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Speaker 1: that a little bit. That was fun. So let's just

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Speaker 1: be clear. M hm. With the first fastest tongue in

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Speaker 1: the world. Man, it's debatable, Man, it's debatable. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: feel like you're being too humble, so I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you say that. But why is it debatable? Let me

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Speaker 1: hear that you got people that feel other people started

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Speaker 1: like you know, you got you got some people feel

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Speaker 1: bone thugs and how many started it? Some people feel

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Speaker 1: treached on it? Then you got I can go back

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Speaker 1: further than that with records like uh, jay Z and

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Speaker 1: jazz O doing originators, records like that, LLL doing records

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Speaker 1: like why do you think they call it that was

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Speaker 1: I was. I was the artist that had to tell

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00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: everybody Chicago was dope and that its motherfucker's here and

424
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: wait till y'all come hearing. Like I was the one

425
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: that had to go out there and speak that ship.

426
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: You know what they especially me being from like the

427
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: West Side of Chicago and not really having the same

428
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: kind of hip hop vibe or hip hop style that

429
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: most rappers have. So it was double double drama on

430
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: my end trying to bust in the door. So I

431
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: was one of the first artists had to let him

432
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: know about the city that Chicago was slept on. Yeah,

433
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: because he always says that about Miami, like Miami was

434
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: slept on every city outside of New York and maybe

435
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: l A and Atlanta. At the point was man, Miami

436
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: was killing it a little bit that but early on

437
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like in the hip hop industry, like

438
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: I always talking about it that New York had a

439
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: pigeonholed on at least the corporations that record labels, the media,

440
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: so they weren't looking at everybody else. They just wasn't

441
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: allowing us in. Just hate a dog, it's not hate

442
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: it the same thing he says, the same way we

443
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: all fell down. I think I think a lot of

444
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: a lot of other cities felt like that at the time.

445
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: A lot of other places felt like that at the

446
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: time when early on, because New York was the mecca

447
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: of it, was only going on there and everybody else

448
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: was trying to do what New Yorkers are exactly. So

449
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: we share similar feelings in that as so you ever

450
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: felt like your city wasn't supporting you though it was

451
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: harder for you in your city, like it's it's it

452
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: seems like everyone who makes it somewhere they try in

453
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: their city, but then they actually go outside the city.

454
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: I think early on, you face a lot of problems

455
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: early on, Like even when I look at some of

456
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: the younger cats, they face it a lot early on

457
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: than that. At a certain point they breakthrough and then

458
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: and then the city starts to accept them as as

459
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, uh, the ones like O. G. S Or

460
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: Man they put it on, you know, they put the

461
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: city on like that. But early on a lot of

462
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: times when you're coming coming from Chicago, you gotta break

463
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: through a lot of hate, you know, and it might

464
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: be close. It's gonna be everywhere around you. So so

465
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: you gotta break through a lot of hate and know

466
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: how to navigate when you come out of my city.

467
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: My mom that passed away, j R. Yeah, rest in

468
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: peace to Timbuctwo. Was he was he part of the team. No,

469
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't like right in the team, but he was

470
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: definitely my man. Every time they don't have his events

471
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: in Chicago, I try to go represent, you know, because

472
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: they still do something every year for him, and everybody

473
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: comes out and yeah, Timbucto is still alive. You know

474
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 1: what I mean, Let's make some noise for that goddamn

475
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: it work. So you're going, is this it's because Kanye

476
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: produced both the records right for when you say both

477
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: the records, which you mean the two first singles, um

478
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: as far as Slow Jams and Overnight Celebrity. Yeah, you

479
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: already knew Kanye as a producer or no, Yeah, yeah,

480
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: we already knew Kanye because yeah, in the shot in

481
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: the city, you know, we we already knew. I knew

482
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: each other. You know. We one of my guys from

483
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: back in the day's named tom Chi. He knew all

484
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: of the rappers and he was like, man, let me

485
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: introduce you to my man Kanye. And we used to

486
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: see him up North rapping all the time. I met

487
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: him as a rapper first, then later on me and

488
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: tempt You used to go to this house as a producer.

489
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: This is when he started to produce. I was like,

490
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: his beast is different. You know, I was noticing his

491
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: music is different, you know, but it was way too

492
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: early on, you know, before everything's going to happen. You

493
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: can see those two records your biggest record, your biggest songs.

494
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: So no, I would say two of my most important songs.

495
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was saying, yeah, yeah, most important. Yeah,

496
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta ask why why? I mean see

497
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: for me coming up doing what I was doing, I

498
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, as always gifts curse. The one

499
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: of the gifts that I felt like I got from

500
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: putting effort into my lyrics, my wordplay, like trying to

501
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: make sure that I was making some ship that everybody

502
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: was messing with. Is other artists that would come up

503
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: in the city will respect it. And at a certain

504
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: point they felt like, Okay, if I'm coming out the city,

505
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the ship. If I give my man

506
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: twist on the record, that's letting me know, like boom,

507
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm representing Chicago when I do that. So that was

508
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: one thing that was dope for me at that time

509
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: frame where a lot of artists that was coming out

510
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: of the city, my man cap One was like, man,

511
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: I won't get it in with my man twisted you know,

512
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of people. Um. So at this time when

513
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: I was doing the record with him, it was like

514
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: he was coming up in the game. I would see

515
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: him sometimes, we're running to him in the streets every

516
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: once in a while, Like I ran into him in

517
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: the streets. When he let me know that he produced

518
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: the Bennie Seagull records, the Truth, right, I think, yeah,

519
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I just did something with Beanie.

520
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: You know. So he was like, I got this record

521
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: you know called Slow Jams. Don't want you to get

522
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: on it. You know, when when we was chopping it

523
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: up about it, he was telling me the concept. So

524
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: I was remembering, like how I was gonna put it together.

525
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna incorporate all of these different things.

526
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: We recorded Slow Jams first, Yeah, Slow Jams first. Yeah.

527
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: So and then I don't think, I mean, I don't

528
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: think Jamie Fox was even thought about for the record

529
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: yet because but that's crazy, because let's just be clear,

530
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: we didn't take Jamie Fox serious at that time. So

531
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: whose idea was it? Let's be real man as a singer.

532
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: That was the first record that we looked we took

533
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: him serious, because you know, we were looking at him

534
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: like Wanda remember the character. You know what, I'm the

535
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: oldest right now. But what I'm saying is this is

536
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: before Ray, right, this is before this. Yeah, definitely before

537
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: before Ray. So that song single handed was like, wait

538
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: a minute, he killed that. He killed it, and who

539
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: that was? That was Kanye's idea like that, that whole

540
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: thing like slow jams over trying to sabotage me. At

541
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: this time, I knew I was. I knew I was

542
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: being uh. I knew I was Jamie Fox. Move with

543
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: him saying like, let's bring Jamie Fox in at this

544
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: time because we didn't, like I said, now, we didn't.

545
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know what. It wasn't a conversation. I heard

546
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: it before. I just heard the ship, you know what

547
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean. So I had did my verse and everything.

548
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: The song was what it was, and he flew to

549
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: l A, ran into jam Me Fox and they went

550
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: in the studio. Then I got the phone call and

551
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: then I heard the ship and I was like, oh ship.

552
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: That's when I knew it was old. Yeah, that's you

553
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: can rightfully say like Jamie Fox is a star. It

554
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: was a star even then. But his music career wasn't

555
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: a twister. He might have not been outside. This makes

556
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: some noise for that, I mean, I mean it was

557
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: it was yeah, yeah man, but we was. I was

558
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: definitely you could have said I'm all right, Yeah, you

559
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: could have your record. You could have said I'm I

560
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: You did not. Yeah, I did not. You did not?

561
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: You did? I heard it right? So then so yeah,

562
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: we course you said you said you have cause Celebrity next. Yeah,

563
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: we recorded over Night Celebty. So it's not it's not

564
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: the same session, not two different sessions. The record came out,

565
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: it's a hit. Then you're going to celebrity. How does

566
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: this happen? What are you doing that? Well, when we

567
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: do over nice Celebrity, we already know we got one.

568
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: This time we're moving around, you know. We we got

569
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: slow jams out there, so we're moving around, and uh,

570
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: we had the uh, we had the Overnight Celebrity idea.

571
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: You know. It was actually a sample I wanted to use.

572
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: So I told him, Man, that's the record. I want

573
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: to use this. This, this Linney Williams record right here. Man,

574
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: this this you know, because I used to remember, yeah,

575
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: I used to remember that record playing on produced this

576
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: If you want to say that now but now, no, man,

577
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: but I knew. I knew that once he got his

578
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: hand on the record like that, with with what he

579
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: was doing with all of the soul music, that he

580
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: was gonna kill it. So I gave him a record

581
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: and he actually said it kicked his ask for a man,

582
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: And he was like, man, it took me a minute

583
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: to get this record the way I wanted to get it,

584
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: but I got it, and he was excited about it.

585
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: Then he sent it to me and now I'm listening

586
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: to it, and now I was messing my head up

587
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: because I'm like, damn. So now I felt the pressure

588
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: because we got the Slow Jams record out there, so

589
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, what the fun? But then bam, I

590
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: heard the hook on it, so he blessed me of

591
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: the hook. That's all it took. Once I heard a

592
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: little bit or something to go off, that was it. Boom.

593
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: I started coming with my case you want this time?

594
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: It's not job. This was um Judy Green one, no, no, no,

595
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: Greg calmen, all of them. Okay you named okay, okay, okay,

596
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: I ain't cool cool cool cool. I'm wanna pointing up

597
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: for me. Man, let's don't like it, so all right,

598
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: quick Time and Slim. But he's not drinking, but let's

599
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: give him. Let's get him his box. Where's that? Come on?

600
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: What's that? You know what I'm saying? He want you

601
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: to know, man, we want to give you your flowers, man,

602
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: while you're here, while you're alive. This is why we

603
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: do ship. Our show was about bigging all legends up

604
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: while they're alive. So we literally wanted man, thank you man,

605
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: real flowers. Motherfucking twist you see you see it. I

606
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: appreciate that. That's love. Let's love love, all right. So

607
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: we usually play this game quick Time with Slime, and

608
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: this game you gotta take shots. So if you ain't

609
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: taking shots, one of your homies gotta take a shot

610
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: for you. Come on, come on, come on. That's DJ

611
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: type Mike right there, type ready, come on, getting ready.

612
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: You already know? Okay, here you go, okay one sir? Alright? Cool?

613
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right,

614
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: it's right. You slipping. What happened to do? Say right here?

615
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: All right? What you say? So, I'll give you two choices,

616
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: all right, you can say both. Your man gotta drink

617
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: when we drink with him. Yeah, we drink drink wom

618
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: So you're gonna leave him out there? I know what's happening. Yeah,

619
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: if you say know what's happeningly correctly, this is what about.

620
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you two tough choices. When you say both,

621
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: that's what makes us drink. Both are neither or neither? Yes,

622
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: they used to be rough. I'm gonna drink some Japanique.

623
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: You should take a shot at two though, Twister. Come on, goddamn,

624
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: it might take a shot. Come on, you take a

625
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: shot too, and only your man out there like that?

626
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: All right? Cool? Hey, they got you the big cup

627
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: to get shot at a little cup. That's not we'rena.

628
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: You got one of you. You got one already in

629
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: front of you. Twister, all right, you're ready, Yeah, I'm

630
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: asking you ready. It is rough or Tupac? Damn man,

631
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: damn that damn it's whatever criteria. It's rough, it's rough.

632
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna go for Tupac. I'm

633
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why though, because I actually got a

634
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: has to meet this brother. That's why you know. I

635
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: met him on two occasions. One occasion I did a

636
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: show in l A and uh it was with Digital

637
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: Underground Digital Underground. I got a chance to say what's

638
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: up to shot G looked over to the cut saw Tupacs. Yeah,

639
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: I saw him sitting on the steps chilling. I'm like,

640
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: damn okay, so I ain't say nothing to him. Then

641
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: then I seen him again by the bar. We walked

642
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: up to each other. He was like, man, they told

643
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: me to come chop it up with you when I

644
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: come to Chicago, you know. Then we halted again. The

645
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: second time I met him, he had the fucking Juice

646
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: hoodie on the same the Juice City on. So you know,

647
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet him, and that made

648
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: me engage with his music in a certain way. But

649
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like t Max is the ship, you know.

650
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 1: But just just for the sake of this, I'm gonna

651
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: go with POCT because I got a chance to meet him.

652
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: Idn't really get a chance to chop it up. I

653
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: never got a chance. I saw him in person when

654
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: he was at an award show, pass him by, But

655
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: but I ain't never get a chance to chop it

656
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: up with him. That's crazy. I'm exact opposite. I never

657
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: got to meet pop I got to chop it up

658
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: at Wow, that's that's crazy, eminem or bust the bribes,

659
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: whatever criteria you want. You drinking already, I had to

660
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: take a shot on Okay, okay, alright, cool, take your shot.

661
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I ain't even know I was taking

662
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: the shot. You asked the question. If you want to

663
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: take a real shot, you get some Japanese whiskey right now. Okay,

664
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: they got Japanese whiskey. Definitely drinking. Get ready, that's what

665
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: you should have hand. I don't know. I don't know.

666
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's go our face on ice cube.

667
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, he got them all night questions. Yeah, we

668
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: gotta drink. We gotta drink. You gotta drink. Let's go,

669
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: let's go between. That's rough right there. Yeah, that's rough one.

670
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: Now this might get rough. We're gonna it's gonna be

671
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: a while. So yeah, buddy outcasts or you g k damn.

672
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: I love your honesty. He's very skilled. Ship. You gotta drink,

673
00:36:53,520 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: you gotta drink. I don't know what you're gonn now,

674
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: this one don't know because you guys are kind of

675
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: like in the middle. So Wu tang or in w

676
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: a damn man, see in Wa was some of the

677
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: most exciting hip hop that I had ever heard coming out.

678
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: It was what the funk? It was like the shock.

679
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: It was the most dopest, most exciting ship that I heard.

680
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: Wu Tang got me through some hard motherfucking times. They

681
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: did the same team. But now, man, it's a certain feeling. Man,

682
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: it's a certain feeling. Wu Tang got me through. Sometimes

683
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: I can't pick though. You gotta take a drink. I'm

684
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. I'mna tell you what's the difference. No

685
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: I did. I'm gonna tell you what the difference is

686
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: for me. Okay, I gotta hear this. I didn't know

687
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: what camp it was like. I was just like what

688
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: actually thought it was a jail. I was like, oh, ship,

689
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: I've never gonna get locked up there, like and so

690
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: I was Cuve was younger, Yeah, um, but Wang I

691
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: visually visualized that ship a little bit more. But I

692
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to pick need of That's what I'm

693
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: taking a shot. Now. Let me tell you about being

694
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: from Chicago and see because it's different because Wuchang, you

695
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: can relate a certain way then, so for me, it

696
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: was it was us being in the middle. It was

697
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: the opportunity to hear the West coast rap about the

698
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: streets and me relate to what they were talking about

699
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: from the from the West coast perspective, and I can relate,

700
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: and then me hear the streets from the East Coast

701
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 1: perspective and being able to relate, so that that that's

702
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: what I think. That's dope about coming from Chicago, go

703
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: being a fan, is you got a chance to like

704
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't so one sided like in Chicago on the

705
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: same block you got arguments all day about this person

706
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: across the street is a fan of this person on

707
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: the West coast, this person is a fan of person

708
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, SUBMD to west, right, you know what I mean.

709
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I feel like they should

710
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: probably take the west part of it out and just

711
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: pulled it the mid like because y'all right, definitely like

712
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: in the middle, like you're not West coast that yeah,

713
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: that the west part don't kind of make sense a

714
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: little bit East coast. Y'are your own ship. Yeah, you

715
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you're your own ship, your own um.

716
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: All right, But let's just let's list Jordan or Lebron

717
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: damn well, it ain't real hard Jordan Man, Okay, Dan,

718
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: when you when you you know, I mean when you've

719
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: seen Jordan play. See a lot of these people never

720
00:39:52,760 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: even seen Jordan play. Yeah, so y'all seen it? Repeat? No, yeah,

721
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: see you would see people. I don't know, man, I

722
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: don't know. You got a bigger person doing something that

723
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: this smaller person was doing that should looked incredible at

724
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: six six dude doing it. Ship, That ship was incredible.

725
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: Rick Rosso Fat Joe. I like Lebron too, thought, but

726
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: rosso Fat Joe. Damn man, you snap you do snap?

727
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: I really can't pick between our them. I love both

728
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, it's snapped hard. He would have been

729
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: drinking too on that. Okay, that's a rough one. That

730
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: Crazy Bone or chip Food. Damn Jiff gonna be mad

731
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: at me. Man, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna all

732
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: about it later. Man. But Crazy Bone man, crazy Boney,

733
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Crazy Bone ship, I don't know. We're gonna

734
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: go with this, Oh Mob deep or m O P

735
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Mob d Okay, Yeah, I like emop too, But Cubs

736
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: of White Sox, White Sox Salty from to Be Salty

737
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: podcast or Radio Shit I mean podcast podcast Chicago pizza

738
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: or New York pizza Chicago. I hate New York pizza

739
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: every time I try some New York pizza. Like what

740
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: this one? This is with a clean on food. Let

741
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: me throw on, let me throw it in this Techno

742
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: and eminem damn no, you got a drink on that one? Yeah,

743
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: you gotta drink these is these is my brothers. And

744
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: then then it's it's actually hard, you know, because they

745
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: go hard. Man. Yeah, push your teeth or Jada Kiss.

746
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: I like, push your t but Jada kiss. Yeah. So

747
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: also XXL, all right, we're all done over here. Yeah,

748
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: excel yeah XXL. I like them both. But al Capone

749
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: or Lucky Luciano compone, Yeah, that's Chicago poem baby. Oh

750
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: but you use technine already, right, If it's not Eminem,

751
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: it's a different question. Tech nine or trash tech nine

752
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: track is cool, but Tech nine West but obviously produced it.

753
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: Kanye West. No, I d it's my man, but Kanye West.

754
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: The locks are run DMC, run DMC. I love the locks,

755
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: but I was raised on run DMC. You can't even

756
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: put down yeah, comment or loope, damn, don't don't take

757
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: a babysit. Who I'm two cold brothers there? Yeah, sure,

758
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: I know what a brat that's right, bull Chicago are

759
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: drinking that. Yeah yeah them them them both illmatic or

760
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. Damn no, I need to hear this one.

761
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you the truth, right. See, when

762
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: you put the whole story together, then it's like okay, okay.

763
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: But when you're talking about that moment there, I gotta say, ill, Maddie,

764
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: m hmm. Yeah. Just it's just I don't know, it's

765
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: it's I think when you when you when you right

766
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: in there, I think you're talking about the person that's

767
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: more into wrap versus the person that has a foot

768
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: in the streets a little bit m hm. And I

769
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: think if you just all in your music, you're gonna

770
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: be more of the amatic fan. But if you end

771
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: them was it but you got a foot in the

772
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: streets to you for sure gonna be a reasonable doubt fan.

773
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: So it's not that I think this is so much

774
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: better than that. It's just at that time frame, I

775
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: didn't have a foot in the street. I was going

776
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: hard on rap ship. That's why I say about a

777
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt too. I don't say I didn't have it

778
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: from the street. I just say I didn't have to

779
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: couldn't related. He was talking about money ship that I

780
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: didn't have. Yeah, see, I just like I had to

781
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: get back later. I was like, oh, that's what you're

782
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: talking about, Okay, I mean ship they aumatic was about

783
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: the streets too, but it's the word play. Yeah. But

784
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: I got another one, common or common sense. Damn which

785
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: version of him? I would say common common sense was

786
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: my ship too, but definitely common Chief Keith for g Herbo. Damn.

787
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: Do I want to pick one? I can't really pick

788
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: between them too. It's okay, so you gotta drink too,

789
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: that be with that cheers. That's on you man. You

790
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't pick, by the way, Yeah, them too. It would

791
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: be hard. You know. You know what you should have

792
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: said when I said that, you should have shot down

793
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: m that's crazy what you've been saying the whole that's

794
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: the correct that's drinking a lot of the chronic or

795
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: all odds on me. Mm hmm. That's rough for real,

796
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: right there, that's rough. Wait, let me think, let me think.

797
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: You know what I'm I'm gonna force myself to pick

798
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: only because of one reason. No, you gotta drink now now.

799
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Once I thought about the reason, I was like, okay,

800
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink too with that. Yeah, both of those

801
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: were like the both impactful, very very impactful. M you

802
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: know what, though, you're drunk for nothing. I'm gonna say

803
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: that because all eyes on me, you you know, it

804
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: was more about poc on All eyes on me. You

805
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: have more more things, you have some other things going on,

806
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: but it was more pop whereas chronic from crew you know,

807
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: and that and that that that assembly Man was the ship,

808
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm gonna give it to the assembly

809
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: over over something that was more geared to one person.

810
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: But damn well call it or DJ drama mm hmm,

811
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: damn dog man, DJ callott Man, DJ CA. That's the

812
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: last one, DJ cadott You ain't I want to like

813
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: we always, I'm not gonna even say nothing. I'm gonna

814
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: just throw it out there. You tell me what you back.

815
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: Loyalty or respect? Loyalty loyalty like to explain why, Um,

816
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean loyalty of a person is loyal to you.

817
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: They won't suck you over. A person that can respect

818
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: you still fuck you over if you gotta, if you

819
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: gotta way to funk you over, you know, publicly, he

820
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: can still respect you. But if he thinks he got

821
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: a way to fuck you over and still looks like

822
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: he respects you and not be known as the snake

823
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: that did it, he'll do it, you know, he he

824
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: can do it. So respect still makes me have fear

825
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: that of a person. I still got a little fear.

826
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: You respect me, but you don't funk with me, you know,

827
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: But loyalty that you can't. You can't trade that for nothing.

828
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: That's real, that's real, real. I always think the answer

829
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: to the correct assert is both. I mean, but if

830
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: you gotta pick one, you know, yeah, I know, but

831
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: in this case, maybe want you to drink, you might

832
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: as well finish that up. And um, you gotta drunk

833
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: with Trade songs? Yeah yeah, that's everybody, everybody that's gonna

834
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: make it. Yeah. Yeah. How was that the your pussy

835
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: game go up? That was more than the label We

836
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: was We was young. He was a young cat too.

837
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: He would help your pussy game go off. No, not

838
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: with that record, right there? Man, that was a young

839
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: cat man. You know what I'm saying. So, so have

840
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: you met the Brown Trade song System? Like? Yeah, the

841
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: trade school. I running to him every once in a while. Goddamnit,

842
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: man is real out here. Let's which, which are the

843
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: labels that you were on? Do you like? Do you

844
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: think we're the best? Ones that you were were the

845
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: best one that you're on? Because you weren't quite a

846
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: bit of labels the best at point, it didn't get

847
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: a chance to happen. You know, this is when I

848
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: was on Atlantic. You know she had to change. Yeah,

849
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: because we were gonna make it happen. Man. You know,

850
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: I had a lot of love with the guys, you know,

851
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: you only it was adulpe relationship. You know, Me and

852
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: Dame used to chop it up a lot. He was

853
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: the reason I got on the Champions record, you know. Yeah, yeah,

854
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: So we was trying to make it happen, but you

855
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: know I was, I guess too deeply embedded in my

856
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: contract situation with Atlantic to move the business around and

857
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: make it happen. So, you know, so if it was

858
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: that because you're on Big Beat, which is you were

859
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: on Big Beat right that record label? Big Beat? No? No,

860
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: what was it with? What was the tie with I

861
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: think it was tight to Atlantic? Yeah, so Atlantic allowed

862
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: so between Atlantic and a Loud Which one of those

863
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: two would you? Because he was at Loud when Wutan

864
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: came there too as well. I was like first, I

865
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: think I was the first artist sign allowed first. First.

866
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: Alcoholics was very first, No, me first, you first? Yeah, yeah,

867
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: didn't alcoholis Yeah, that's just a lot. That's hard. Yeah,

868
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: that's very first artiste. Steve different to this day, Um

869
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: when I see him, Yeah, yeah, that was hard when

870
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: Stephen's cool. Stephen's cool. I always had a cool vibe

871
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: with Steven phone numbers nowadays. No, no, I ain't got

872
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: his numbers. He about to get. Steve would talk to

873
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: me man if I reached out to him. Yeah, that's

874
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: my man. Yeah, this is what we didn't ask. No,

875
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: but I didn't get the answers between the two labels.

876
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: Which one are you? You're not sign the Atlantics? So

877
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: are you? No? No, I think you know, I was

878
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: on Atlantic the longest you know, you know, I think, uh,

879
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: the the it was one that was first, you know,

880
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: so loud Wreck has been at first label I was on.

881
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: It's got that that first vibe, you know. But Atlantic

882
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: I was on like like Templars years maybe something like that. Yeah,

883
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: So that's the question. We didn't ask major or independent,

884
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: And definitely why independent the freedom? And I think to

885
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: each his own too. I think if you, I think,

886
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: if you have a system that works, so you got

887
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: your business people and play and you you know, you

888
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: you you kind of got people around that can you know,

889
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: uh make your shifts sail, you know, then you kind

890
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: of can look more towards that independent round. But I

891
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: think if you, like a new artist, you don't really

892
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: got anybody around, you know, to kind of give you,

893
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: uh tips or or show you the ropes, then you

894
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: might have to lean more towards major label and and

895
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: your your attorneys and stuff like that, because you believe

896
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna need people to help you take advantage of

897
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: being on the record label too, because regulabel you can

898
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: fall through the cracks. Yeah, so that so why I

899
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: said attorney. You know, you know, if you ain't got

900
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: those people, then you know, all you can do is

901
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: rely on people like your attorney. And right, let's keep it. Really,

902
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: you made it a lot more money with majors. Yeah,

903
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: you make a lot more money with the major. So

904
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: so that's the gift and the curse to it. You

905
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: you wanna, you want your freedom you can move how

906
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: the funk you want to move what You're gonna make

907
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: the money like this a little bit at a time.

908
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: You want to make the big money here, You're gonna

909
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: make this big money. But you're gonna take a little

910
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: bit of whip cracking over here. Sometimes I don't know

911
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: whip cracking this whatever will actually hit you with it.

912
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, you know that the mentality,

913
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: you know some of that mentality. Sometimes you gotta you

914
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: gotta listen to what what what somebody else say saying

915
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: and uh bye by the choices of other people more,

916
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, that's all ship. I forget all your independent

917
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: I think owning your own ship it having that well

918
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: you don't want no more shots. Yeah, I think, I

919
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: personally think. I think being independent before you go major,

920
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be the ideal situation because then you

921
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: go into a major kind of prepared, self relying, and

922
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: then you can take advantage of that machine because the machine,

923
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: for sure, you're gonna make way more money in the machine.

924
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: But independent, you you know, if you if you could

925
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: established establish yourself independently own more of your stuff going

926
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: into that, it's gonna be a better deal. More leveraged

927
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: getting that deal with a major. Yeah, I don't know.

928
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: I think these days, though, independent is is the way

929
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: to go for sure. He's he's with an independent. Yeah.

930
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: So I'm um, we're running through a couple of titles

931
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: and I don't want you to just tell me what

932
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: they mean to you. Man, I say, got you running

933
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: Off at the mouth? Running Off at the Mouth. That's

934
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: the title of my first album, running Off at the Mouth. Yeah,

935
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: it's the first thing to come to my mind. It's

936
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: the title of my first album. Man, I was like eighteen,

937
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: nineteen years old. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Call down

938
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: your album, so I want you to do for me? Yeah?

939
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: That's that was That was That was. That was how

940
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: I came out. That was how I titled my first album.

941
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: I was still thinking. I was in the process of

942
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: finding myself as an artist at the time, you know.

943
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: So this is me getting my feet wet, you know,

944
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: in the game running Off at the Mouth. That's what

945
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: it is. Resurrection independent. This this is more independent situation

946
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: upset that that that that this and that didn't go

947
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: right with the label. I wanted to put this record

948
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: out first. I wanted to be like this so we're

949
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: doing our independent thing, and I wanted to go that round.

950
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: So it was way early in the game when I

951
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: tried the independent round, and Resurrection is like a body

952
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: of work that I'm more uh more proud of for

953
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: the freedom, the freedom aspect, I got a chance to

954
00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: make the type of music I wanted to make some

955
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: noise for that the bounced, I was gonna keep going

956
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: in order? Should I keep going in order? Yes? In

957
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: the head, you do you do a couple? I did

958
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: the first two? You do the next three? Adrenaline Rush,

959
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: I asked my one right there, that's the one where

960
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: I felt like Adrenaline Rush is the one where I

961
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: knew who and what Twister is. How I wanted to

962
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: come out what I wanted to people to hear from me,

963
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: you know, So Adrenaline Rush is the title comes from

964
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: I thought about when they say I forgot it, when

965
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: they say what you want to title your album? Yeah,

966
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: when it's like what you want to tie to your album?

967
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: I think the first I asked myself a question like, man,

968
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: what do rap feel like to me? You know, That's

969
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I asked me. I said, Okay,

970
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: what is rap to me? Or what do it make

971
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: me feel? Like? Give me adrenaline rush. So that's where

972
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: the title came from. It was like just the way

973
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: I feel about rap music and I just felt like

974
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: I knew how I wanted to wrap my audience. At

975
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: the time, I was like, this is when I made

976
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: my mind up, Like I've just been a rap for

977
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: my Chicago people. Just what I see just in my city.

978
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick to what I know and what I do,

979
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: and I'm rapping for my city. So a drilling and

980
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: rush represents so the me coming fully into knowing who

981
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: I was as an artist. Yeah, the next one is

982
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: Kma Kazi riding a wave. That's me riding a wave

983
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: coming out with the next album. Still wanted to come

984
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: with an impactful title or something that was hard. So

985
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: I came with Kama Kazi, and then I had a

986
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: little more help, you know, I was able to to

987
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: to make the type of music I wanted to make.

988
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: You know, the budget was a little bigger. I love

989
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: the budget, you know, a chance to do you know

990
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: this right? Yeah, So that that's what that was. Man,

991
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: Kama Kazi is me riding the wave. I had the

992
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: success of you know, my my adrenaline rush wreck in

993
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: a certain way. And then I had it was slow jams.

994
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: I knew when Kamakazi was coming out, I already had

995
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: slow jams on this record. So it's like I knew

996
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: my ship was gonna be popping. So I was like

997
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: having fun with the Kama Kazi joint. So that's that's

998
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: what come to my mind, is riding away, I don't

999
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: have it, okay, the day after, day after m hmm,

1000
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: still riding the way. But that mother fucker wasn't so

1001
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: high now, you know what I mean. So so the

1002
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: budget a little less, Yeah, so putting it, putting together,

1003
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: putting together what I could put together with what I had,

1004
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: you know. So but but now it was it was

1005
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: still dope. I was I think I was getting a

1006
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: little a little lost in that time, you know, I

1007
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: was starting to get a little lost in what direction

1008
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to go in at that time frame. So

1009
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: so I put that record out, But it wasn't a

1010
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: record that I was the most proud of or or

1011
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: happy with, you know, energy wise, just everything wasn't going away.

1012
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: I wanted it to go, you know, energy bis wise, everything,

1013
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: So that record just just was what it was at

1014
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, now I'm looking I'm looking at the

1015
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: at the dates, and then you have Adrenaline Rush two

1016
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Is this a time frame where you're

1017
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: feeling right like, what is there a shift in what

1018
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: you're doing and how you so? So Yeah, so the

1019
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: later one is just a title that I was putting

1020
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: on some music at the time that I felt like

1021
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: had that same vibe still, and so we're like, man,

1022
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: let's come with Adreneral Rush two thousand and seven. I

1023
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: probably would have titled It's something Else at the time,

1024
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: So I think creatively, I was just in a shitty

1025
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: space and that's what I titled the project at the time.

1026
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: You know, so this this is uh me still able

1027
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: to wrap my ass off, but shitty space titles and

1028
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: ship thinking, you know, not thinking as fully clear as

1029
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:08,959
Speaker 1: I as I should have been. Probably category F five.

1030
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Category f five. That's when I'm riding my independent wave again.

1031
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: You know. I love that record because I have some

1032
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: some for me. I had some some some some big

1033
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: records for me for myself. I want. I made some

1034
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: music that I wanted to make that sounded good to me.

1035
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: So the record didn't didn't do what I wanted it

1036
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: to do commercially or you know, successfu wise, But as

1037
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: far as the body of work and what it sounded

1038
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: like and it being important for for what it was,

1039
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: for how music shall sound and hip hops your sound

1040
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: for Twister, That's what I was on. So so I

1041
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: like category at five, were you already entering the whole

1042
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: security and firearm industry at that at that point that

1043
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: would have been. Yeah, around this time, I'm interested in it.

1044
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: Around this time, I'm I'm you know, still having my

1045
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: concealed carry and stuff like that. But now I'm starting

1046
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: to entertain possibly being an instructor and stuff like that.

1047
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: You know, around didn't didn't didn't take it fully serious. Yea, yeah, okay, let'

1048
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: let's go through the albums. I know we need to

1049
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: bring gun capt down here. Man, I'm telling you all right.

1050
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: In the Perfect Storm, the Perfect Storm, that was dope too.

1051
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: That was that was me doing my independent thing. At

1052
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: this time, it's is not not as fulfilling to me,

1053
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 1: but I'm still loving music doing my thing. I came

1054
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: with the Perfect Storm. But but like I said, just

1055
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: not fully what I wanted to be, you know, vibe wise,

1056
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: energy wise. So at this time, I'm just making music.

1057
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to find which direction I'm going

1058
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: in next around this time, you know what you say, huh, Well, yeah,

1059
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: I had that record on that, but I here wasn't

1060
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: as excited about the whole project overall. I knew that

1061
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't in a good space creatively and just musically

1062
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be. So I was just making music,

1063
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: getting through it, trying to see where I'm where I'm

1064
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: going next, what I'm gonna do next. You're one of

1065
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: them guys, I gotta get away to make a whole album,

1066
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: or like you'd like to stay home a little bit

1067
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: of both. For some reason, though, I found that I

1068
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: gotta be. I gotta be in the I gotta be grame.

1069
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: I like to be in a grimy situation to make

1070
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: it real. Like I could go like, you know, we

1071
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: could go to l A and shift. I could be

1072
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, in the hills, you know, writing on ship.

1073
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: That's dope. But I would rather I need to I

1074
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: need to be in some grimy ship like I feel

1075
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: like I would make the real music in a in

1076
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: a PC project hallway when you start, I gotta be.

1077
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: I gotta have some element of where I came from

1078
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: from you. Yeah, we me and him probably would have

1079
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: been making out of some music. Yeah yeah, that's that's

1080
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: my jam to man, that's the whole project right there

1081
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: is Uh, I'm vibing with music a little bit more.

1082
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: But all of these projects you naming our projects where

1083
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: I was able to do what I do effortlessly as

1084
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: far as making a song or do a verse or

1085
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: like damn you killing it or do what you do,

1086
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: but just not fully being fulfilled with music at the time.

1087
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm not in the space that I want to be,

1088
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, mentally, So I'm just kind of making music

1089
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: and making records that I considered as dope, but still

1090
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: searching for what I wanted to do and be on

1091
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: still so I'm just floating through it. But but the

1092
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: records that was on that was was my ship? What

1093
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: what records was on there? I got two many ship

1094
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: you got you got a crazy catalog? Man? Yeah, yeah,

1095
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: the catalog crazy. But overall, when you say that title,

1096
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: that that's what I remember about that run right there

1097
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: is me having the capabilities of making music and doing

1098
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: some music that was satisfactory to my fans and everything,

1099
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: but not commercially successful as I wanted it to be,

1100
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: and just me not really being in a in a

1101
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: vibe of space that I wanted to be with music

1102
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: at the time, you know. And then the last two. Yeah,

1103
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: you got Crook County. That was my joint right there,

1104
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: Creek County because we started making videos in the hood.

1105
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: This one, this one, we you know, I got a

1106
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: few of my people around, you know, I'm starting to

1107
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: get it, you know, a few a few of my

1108
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: camp around, uh a few of my gun camp people

1109
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: coming around. Just a few different faces around. So I'm

1110
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: making music, We're going around doing stuff in the hood.

1111
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 1: My man beads around that I'm doing music with, and uh, man,

1112
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: it was just huh yeah, yeah, a lot of the

1113
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: homies from Chicago I got there. I think. Then we

1114
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: shoot Creek County like at Harvey, different spots like that. Yeah.

1115
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: So so Crik County was a record that it was

1116
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: dope to me because I was in the streets with it.

1117
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: You know, we was moving around in the streets having

1118
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 1: everybody being involved in the music and everything. So so

1119
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: that was a dope problem. There was a dope project

1120
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: from me at the time. The last one, it's Summer

1121
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: ninety six. That's a very poignant title, Summer ninety six.

1122
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: What's on there? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, especially working with

1123
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: DJ Ferris, you know, because he wanted the big figures

1124
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: in Chicago. That's my man right there. So anytime you

1125
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: got him, you know, anytime you got him on something, uh,

1126
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's dope. So just having him be involved

1127
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: with that project and just keeping my whole legacy going

1128
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 1: was dope, you know. So that's what Summer ninety six

1129
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: was about. Was reminded people about when a drumaline rush

1130
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: came out, which was the Summer ninety six. I think

1131
01:05:52,160 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: it's trying to make them much of that cool. Did

1132
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: you do it? You ain't never do it? Versus? Right? No, no, no,

1133
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: that would be a crazy versus. I don't know who

1134
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: I would do it with though people always ask me,

1135
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: But I don't really know who I would do it with.

1136
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: Who you think technic I would be a good one

1137
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: who said that? I think see when people say Buster,

1138
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: they just think fast rap. But I think we kind

1139
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: of besides the fast rap, we slightly too different artists,

1140
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: you know what. So I don't know you who would

1141
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: you want? I don't know that's that's that's that's a

1142
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: tough one. Who like two different But I don't think it.

1143
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be an even match

1144
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: up in terms of what we think it should be off.

1145
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: It should showcase two different styles. Else mystical, wo, mystical,

1146
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: that would be a dope. Let's keep thinking, y'all, come on,

1147
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: comen keeping one crazy part of a group though you

1148
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: know not but crazy was also solo. Did you see that?

1149
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: Did you see that versus we're doing three six? Ye? Yeah,

1150
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: I saw it? How did you all fix your problem? Who? Uh?

1151
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: We'll see me and Bone we had a mutual mutual

1152
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: friends see lazy Uh Yeah, it was lazy Bone. Lazy

1153
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: moves around a lot of you know, he got a

1154
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: lot of mutual friends that I got and uh in

1155
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: Indiana at the time, we had our buddy name Cho.

1156
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, he was doing a song with him at

1157
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: the time with his with his group and what he

1158
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: was doing, and then he knew me and he was like,

1159
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: wait in it, y'all got beef or something like that.

1160
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: So when he ya was beating for years, right and

1161
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 1: this is on wax with this records and all that,

1162
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, the style and you know, so so what

1163
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: he did at the time was he orchestrated the song

1164
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: and he paid Lazy to get on the song and

1165
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: paid me to get on the song without telling yall

1166
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on it. You didn't care. He told us,

1167
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, he said, I want y'all to do a

1168
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: song to get who I want to name. Y'all can't

1169
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: be beefing who. And so once me and Lazy got together, yeah, yeah,

1170
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: so shout out to my man Choo for making that happen.

1171
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: And man, once being Lazy clicked, it was over. He

1172
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: was so cool, you know. We chopped it up, we

1173
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: did that song, and then I knew them was gonna

1174
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: be my guys ever since then. Then the next time

1175
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: I like called a good vibe with them was when

1176
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: uh we did spit your Game, Uh yeah, the Biggie joint. Yeah.

1177
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: And then I got a chance to chop it up

1178
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 1: with Crazy Bone or let him know how it felt

1179
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: about the group, you know, and we just got rapped,

1180
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: like you know, uh, well, we'll go through like like

1181
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 1: two or three years beefing with some sit we don't

1182
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: even really know. We don't know if we make a

1183
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: distract as we're doing all that, like like, like, how

1184
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: weird is that? Like you know what I mean? That

1185
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: is weird. I'm gonna tell you what's weird is having

1186
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: the beef with with with Trash going on at the time,

1187
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: and this ship was so serious. We had a meeting

1188
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: in Chicago about this ship, you know, because you know

1189
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know, like that was one

1190
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: of the times where this was one of the reasons

1191
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: this This is how one of the ways Twister got

1192
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: formed is when when I didn't get accepted from people

1193
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: that I was fans of. So so the Trench said

1194
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: a little something on the record, you know, because yeah,

1195
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: I didn't understand where you where Bone I understood because

1196
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: of the style similarity. So I didn't understand anything when

1197
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: I heard about it then and when I when I

1198
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: re iterated and just look today it's we had a

1199
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: show Chicago. At this time they had formed the House

1200
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: of Pain. I saw ever Last because I knew him

1201
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: from he used to come in the office at our records.

1202
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: So we're talking. He like, man, let me let me

1203
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: how at you So it's old now we can laugh

1204
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: about it. Ever Last said, you didn't hear it from me?

1205
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: Trashed dished you on his new ship. What. So I

1206
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: go listen to the ship. I'm listen, I'm eight and

1207
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: I ain't hearing nothing. Then finally the record come on.

1208
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: I put a few blows in cargo, so you can

1209
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: tell twist your ass back to Chicago. What record was that?

1210
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: I forgot which one, but you can find it. You

1211
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: can find it. So I was a fan though at

1212
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: the time. So this ship broke, I'm like, damn, you

1213
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm piste off about it.

1214
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: So I stopped around that time, around the time. Yeah

1215
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: that they lit, they lived. But see then I heard

1216
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: stories later like people used to see my video come

1217
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: on and then funk with him, like, oh ship, dude,

1218
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: the funk you? So he got piste off and he

1219
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: dissed me. So then we end up having a meeting

1220
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: in Chicago because it was like the ship seemed like

1221
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: it was gonna escalate into some other ship. But then

1222
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: the funniest ship happened. We get to to New York

1223
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: and we do the big gass cover for for Double

1224
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: x L with all the rappers and ship. We're standing there, Yeah,

1225
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: we're standing on the street. Who the funk walk up

1226
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: and ship trash. We're like, oh ship and he said, yeah, see,

1227
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: I told you y'all in my hood. Now it's cool

1228
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: and kept the movie was like, so, you know, that's

1229
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: when you learn some ship you gotta you gotta learn.

1230
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: This is me navigating through the industry. This is one

1231
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: of the things that helped me learn how to move,

1232
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: you know. So at that time we had got a

1233
01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: little cordial before that incident. But had it been some

1234
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: some some ship going on, that could have been me

1235
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: right there. You know what I'm saying on that other

1236
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: end right there, that's crazy that didn't that's yeah, yeah

1237
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: and yeah worked it out. Yeah yeah. Trenches An artists

1238
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: always wanted to do music with Yeah, yeah, what's you say? Oh?

1239
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: All right, col I keep for getting you from Jersey's

1240
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: you gotta let it go? What about Man and Man? Yeah,

1241
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm a red Man fan. So what's your favorite what's

1242
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: your favorite part of the game. Is it making the

1243
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: music or performing the music? Because going through your catalog,

1244
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, this motherfucker performed every day of the year.

1245
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: Just going through your catalog, I'm like, yo, yo, you

1246
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: could you could do any you know, I'm not trying

1247
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: to persrace your answer, so hold on, should Maybe I

1248
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that, but um, what's your what's your favorite?

1249
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: Is it making the music or performing the music? I

1250
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: think performing it? What's your guess? Was y'all guess? Yeah?

1251
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: Performing it? I like making it, though, but I will

1252
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: say performing it is more my favorite. Performing it. Yeah, yeah,

1253
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: you gotta explain why And wait, wait, have you ever

1254
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: spent something in the studio so fucking fast that you

1255
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: couldn't perform it? No? I make sure not to do that, like, yeah,

1256
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, when you I try to stay truthful with

1257
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: the ship, like I tried to stay within the boundaries

1258
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: of what's possible because exactly like like everybody got their

1259
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: own reasons why they rapped like that. But but for me,

1260
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: it's not just about wrapping fast. It's about how quickly

1261
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: can you do it at a dope cadence where you

1262
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: can hear everything. So so when I'm making the music

1263
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: like that, like I try to stay within my boundaries

1264
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: of what I know that's humanly possible. Like I think

1265
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: you need to take a breath right here, so I'm

1266
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: gonna make sure you know, just just stuff like that.

1267
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: So I sorry, I could him out so performing and performing, Yeah,

1268
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: so performing I like it better because even when I'm

1269
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: making music, making music comes from performing in my head,

1270
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, when you when you're writing these lyrics. Most

1271
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: of the time, like a lot of artists unconsciously even

1272
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: realized that they placed themselves in the middle of a

1273
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: rap battle or concert or something when they're coming up

1274
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: with the rhymes and they look at the audience react

1275
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: to the lyric in their mind, and then they say, yes,

1276
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: I don't go with it, you know. So a lot

1277
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: of my creativity comes from performing in my mind. So

1278
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, to actually get to

1279
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: do it in person, that's what a full thrill make.

1280
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: Some looks for that, I believe you show you don't

1281
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: want to shout at this Japanese whiskey. This is that

1282
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: good ship man, it's doing me ain't good enough right here.

1283
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: And let's just be clear, the reason why you don't

1284
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: drink like that is because you're a gun instructor. You

1285
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: know that. The dude that being a call like this

1286
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: car Yeah no, not not how you do this? You

1287
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: know what you want? The guy, that dude, he's like,

1288
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: he's huge, don't he gonna get somebody killed. He was

1289
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 1: like this, if a person comes up to you, you

1290
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. He's a gun instructor that

1291
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: he's telling you about. He's something to martial artists. Kid,

1292
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: gotta be up. You don't know what I'm talking about.

1293
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're talking about. You know, one

1294
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: of my buddies in Chicago is killing it doing doing

1295
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 1: like parodies of that dude right now. Okay, because he's

1296
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: hen get somebody hurt. You're not listening to him right

1297
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: different when you bet not listen to him, explain, So

1298
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: explain what what he just said? You said, your fire

1299
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: arms instructor. Yeah, just uh, like the firearms instructor. Like

1300
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 1: so if you want to get your cacealed carry or

1301
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: something like that, or just do advanced firearm training technical shooting,

1302
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: you teach that. Yeah, mostly mostly how to shoot in general,

1303
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: some defensive show. What if you had a fella me,

1304
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 1: could I still go? Oh man? He's like, baby, I

1305
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said. You know, we we we probably get

1306
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: you in a situation where we get some people to

1307
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: see if you can get it expunge, and then after

1308
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: that situation then you can't. So we have had people

1309
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: that have had felonies before they got their record of

1310
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: sponging and was able to get the Yeah tell them

1311
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: look out for me. So yeah, because they got the

1312
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: hook up on that. But it's spongement. Holy movie with you.

1313
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: But so, well, what made you get into that? You

1314
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: just you love firearms? Just seeing you like, I have

1315
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 1: a whole rhyme about the gun. Yeah, just that's doing

1316
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: like a rap review like you have, uh you've got

1317
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: guys that do gun reviews and then you know, giving

1318
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: the description of the gun. So my version is like

1319
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: a rap review of a gun that I might like

1320
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: or something like that. But you know, just really just

1321
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: passionate about the whole fire stuff. So U s c

1322
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: C A instructor, n A instructor? How people are visualizing

1323
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: the cargoys being bad outside of like downtown and things

1324
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: like that. What all the things going on is it?

1325
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: Is it is it that easy to just get guns?

1326
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about obviously, Yeah, I mean that's the problem.

1327
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: The problem is is illegal guns. That's the problem right

1328
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: there is is guns getting in the hands of uh

1329
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 1: people that shouldn't have them. You know, that's the problem.

1330
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: And I think you know, education is part of the key,

1331
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: even though that's happening. I think when you re educate

1332
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: the mind about a firearm, because we used to just

1333
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: growing up here and rappers talk about yeah yeah, you

1334
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: never really heard a person rap about a gun and

1335
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: a flyway or something, you know, something different. Yeah, yeah,

1336
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: having respect for the weapon. I mean, you know, like

1337
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: I said, I do competition shooting and stuff like that.

1338
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: So I try to change the whole narrative and perspective

1339
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: about guns because I think education and perception is one

1340
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: of the keys to help stir what's going on the

1341
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: other way, you know what I mean. So what are

1342
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: your favorite guns? Pick two? An assault right for the hangar?

1343
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: It's all rightful, what's that you can't talk about it?

1344
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm cool now. I saw you posted this. I want

1345
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: to I wanted you to tell me how I could

1346
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: get it. The one that collapsed a R A R. Yeah,

1347
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: it collapsed into like almost it looked like, Yeah, it's

1348
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: called folding AYR. Yeah, companies called folding they are, And yeah,

1349
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a dope one right there. But it's

1350
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: an a AR that folds, it falls into like it

1351
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: almost looks like a handgun at one point. But you know,

1352
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: AYR doesn't mean it's alt rifle. It's the first two

1353
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: letters in the company arem al oh, so it's not

1354
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: an a R fifteen automatically, I mean I'm a like

1355
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 1: model fifteen was just the first two letters in the

1356
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: company that Republican though, right, I'm not a poltical. If

1357
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: he was, I'm neutru Yeah, I'm neutrul with you. Holy

1358
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: sh it, what do you do? Joe Byra, Joe by Byron,

1359
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: So what's that Japanese? Listen? Joe Biden's disappointed men that

1360
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: think it ain't been outside live? What's going on? What

1361
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: a big up Trump at all? But at least you

1362
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: felt Trump like you you felt his presence. No one

1363
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: isn't outside. One was outside too much. I don't even

1364
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: know I got a president like I don't feel like

1365
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: as an American, like come on, bro, like, come on, bro,

1366
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: come on, come on to come out here outside right now?

1367
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: That rushed right now. I'm definitely not rocking with what's

1368
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: going on right now. You know, it's a lot of things,

1369
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, going on and all that I ain't really

1370
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: rocking with with no situation, just trying to take my

1371
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: guns away. Neither but you know, you know, I'll stand

1372
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: up for the Second Amendment. So but you know, so

1373
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, you know you're not taking Joe by the dinner. No,

1374
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: he can't go to dinner. I'm straight Holy this is

1375
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: but you see the handgun? What handgun would you pay?

1376
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, someone's picking the handgun for it's it's a

1377
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of choices. But right now I'm gonna

1378
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 1: say staccato, man, I like the coccato exc or staccato.

1379
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: Mm okay, what what browns does that shoot? What kind

1380
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: of rounds? Not Miller met rounds. Yeah, yeah, that's that's

1381
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: a good one. Ceazy Shadow too, I like them too. Yeah,

1382
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: Holy mobile. Now you got the joint hope with Faith Evans.

1383
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: Say it again, the joint hope with faiv Evan. Yeah, yeah,

1384
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: very dope. But she's drink Champs a little night. He

1385
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: loves man. I just put that together that record. Uh,

1386
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: Atlantic had a lot to do with that record, and

1387
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: uh she was on Atlantic as well. Yeah, she was

1388
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: on Atlantic as well, and that record. Uh it was

1389
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: used for I forget the name of the show, but

1390
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: it was a family that one of the home and

1391
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: the show was involved in helping uh families get homes

1392
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 1: and the little girl in the show like hope. It

1393
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: was one of her favorite songs. So we got a

1394
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: chance to kind of take that song a little further,

1395
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: which is really one of the reasons I made the song, Like,

1396
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I want to try to do something

1397
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: dope with this song. Now, let it just be something normal,

1398
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: you know. So when she got on it and then

1399
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: we got a chance to get involved with that whole thing,

1400
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: that was dope, you know. Yeah, that was vib with that.

1401
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: And you also did a game show. Damn did what

1402
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: game show it was? It was? It was eximt one true.

1403
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: So I don't even remember that ship. You get a

1404
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 1: lot of money, man, you get don't now? I remember? Yeah,

1405
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: I remember I was in and out like a thief

1406
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: in the night because you talk with that type ship, like,

1407
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: because they also did the Netflix show t I A

1408
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: the Juge. Yeah, you with that type of ship doing

1409
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: reality or its gotta be something I'm interested in. Can't

1410
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: just be like just off the fly. You know. If

1411
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: it's something that I like or I'm interested in, I'm

1412
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: with it. But you know about Podcaster, Yeah, if it's

1413
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 1: something I like, yeah, Yeah, as long as the subject

1414
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: matter podcasting about firears, about firears, it's gonna be lit. Yeah.

1415
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm actually working on something. But you're just

1416
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: gonna shoot it up now. I ain't just gonna shoot

1417
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: it up. I mean that would be hard to record that.

1418
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we do have a you know,

1419
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: outdoor range, outdoor range, damn, you know. And it's black

1420
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:52,879
Speaker 1: people shooting. Yeah, yeah, accurate, black people shooting accurately and safely.

1421
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: That's safely. Yes, on the phone. Yeah, is it a

1422
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: pharm or it's like a Yeah, it's a phone. And

1423
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: it's Illinois. It's not your cargo. Yeah, this is Illinois. Okay, cools,

1424
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: you gotta come out and shoot with me one day,

1425
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: can't you can't. Can we bring it down here? Can

1426
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: we go down here? Yeah? We can do it down

1427
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: here too. Yeah. Yeah, we'll sponsor, We'll do something. Yeah. Yeah,

1428
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: not bb guns. This is I got a few. You

1429
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: guys know, you gotta I got I got something for you.

1430
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: I got something for you. Now we bring have more things. Man,

1431
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: twist the man. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like

1432
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: taking another shot before we let you go. You gotta

1433
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: got more? Are we good? Come on, come on, anybody else,

1434
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, bro who because you want to

1435
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: take a shot. It's Japanese whiskey and get your life right,

1436
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I will say this

1437
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: is what what advice would you give artists? To have

1438
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 1: the long jell that you had that's very true, and

1439
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: to stay to stay consistent with the style you want.

1440
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, you you stay true to your style. That's

1441
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: the one main thing is really nothing is more important

1442
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: than being really yourself, because you will get caught up

1443
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: in somebody else hype fast and you will start curving

1444
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: your ship to sound like they ship and looking like

1445
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm talking about, right, you know.

1446
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: So the main thing is to stick with your ship,

1447
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: you know. And then you gotta know it's a youth

1448
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: driven sport too, you know. So when you listen to music,

1449
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times I'll see when artists start to

1450
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: say certain ship is whack or they don't like certain ship.

1451
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: That's when you're starting to lose touch a little bit,

1452
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: you know what. You as soon as you say that

1453
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: ship whack wrong like that, that's when your ass getting old.

1454
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: When they come to you know that my state of music.

1455
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: So I think the other ship is whack though, I mean,

1456
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: you can't say everything is though. I'm not saying everything

1457
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: is dope, but definitely not saying. When you're saying something

1458
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: is whacked that's winning, then you gotta ask, you know,

1459
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: it's a reason it's winning. But it's certain citing. That's

1460
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: a fat a fade that you could tell they got

1461
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: they got a great six months and then it's gonna

1462
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: go away. Then there's certain CITs like I don't understand it.

1463
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: I might not like it, but I'm gonna respect it.

1464
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: But then there's there's this gimmicks going on. Not to

1465
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: say it wasn't gimmicks going on in the nineties. See,

1466
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: I was the way I was raised on from him,

1467
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: let's breaking the ship is whack, man, because you know

1468
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: New York motherfucker's is gonna you know, it's whack. The

1469
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: ship is whacking. And I came up off. Yeah, so

1470
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: that's my vibe right there. So some ship is just whack.

1471
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: But for the most part, there's a reason why something

1472
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 1: is winning. If something is whacked a lot of times,

1473
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: even like I've heard whack ship, but then it'll be winning.

1474
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: So I'll pay more attention to it and then I'll

1475
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: have a production could be dope the program. You know

1476
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: what it is. We don't want to be that old

1477
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: nigga that turned into the hater m So when we

1478
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: know that, so we we don't want to be like

1479
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: look at that, you know back in my day. Like,

1480
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: we don't want to keep me like that. So you say,

1481
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: all right, cool, and you like start participating certain and

1482
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: ship and certain Ship is like not right, Yeah, it's

1483
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: not right. It's not right. But you gotta figure out

1484
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: like what I've always taken out of boys, that's different, bro, No,

1485
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 1: that's not too far difference. I went too far. You

1486
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 1: went too far. You went too far. He man, hey man,

1487
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: they're getting money. Man, they're getting money. We don't know

1488
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: what they hopefully hopefully hopefully going too far. Yeah, now

1489
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: what would you saying? What was what was you saying?

1490
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: He wanted to hear spend something? I have been sipping

1491
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: that ship? That's that? Is it? That? You know what?

1492
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: Won't come out? This is a spade. This is the

1493
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 1: finest from the albums out Mountains of Everywhere. It won't

1494
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: come out come and see me giving about it. You

1495
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: gotta be gotta be up in the rhythm with about it,

1496
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: the level bit of me a bit about it. What

1497
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 1: was the matter with that man? Almost what y'all tell

1498
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: you about to grab that put it on the verse

1499
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: with him. He's gonna spend on that holy ship. That

1500
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 1: was all. That's all. So do you still love the

1501
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: game the same way? Um? I love it differently. I

1502
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't say the same way. Not the same way. Um

1503
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 1: it's different. I would say I still love making music.

1504
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: I still love creating music. But what makes me love

1505
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,799
Speaker 1: it differently is other things going on that I realized

1506
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: that I can take my music and bridge it with

1507
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: with what I do, even with the with the with

1508
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: me being a firearms instructor, and just knowing that I

1509
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: could take my music and literally rap about the stuff

1510
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm doing like I'm telling you, um me doing a

1511
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: sixty second gun review, stuff like that, just being able

1512
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: to play with it. So the one thing with with

1513
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: music is I think you have to find ways to

1514
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: keep making keep making it passionate to you. So you

1515
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: got yeah to to anybody you know, you gotta Sometimes

1516
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: when when you start to lose your passion for music,

1517
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: try to find something else that's going on. And yeah, yeah,

1518
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: keep yourself relevant to yourself, but also find what what

1519
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: else that you may be passionate about and try to

1520
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: see if you can use some of that and put

1521
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: it over here with what you know how to do.

1522
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: When when in terms of music, if you still want

1523
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: to do it, you know you fell out of love

1524
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: of music before. Yeah all the time? Is it the

1525
01:28:55,600 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: music or because the game is different? Thing? The game?

1526
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: The game? Because the game the fans is always great. Yeah,

1527
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: so it's it's always great. But everything it was fuck

1528
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 1: up about it, even having to learn the music business,

1529
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: like you would think, like everything is supposed to be fair.

1530
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: We all, you know what I'm saying, love the same culture.

1531
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 1: You gotta realize, dam I can't even trust this guy.

1532
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: I gotta actually, I actually gotta read and I just

1533
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: gotta know this and I gotta you know, go through that.

1534
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah what was was that something you have to go through? Yeah?

1535
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: Hell yeah all the time. Like I had years of

1536
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: my life or years of my rap career shaved off

1537
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 1: from going through label drama stuff like that. So yeah,

1538
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: I was like, to me, I was one of the

1539
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: artists that got the worst of that type of ship.

1540
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: You know. So the worst of of of label drama

1541
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: or not being able to put out music or dealing

1542
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: with drama with labels. Yeah, he wasn't throwing chairs were

1543
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: here unless she was stors. I wasn't throwing chairs. I

1544
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: might have threw a few words, but shit, did I

1545
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 1: cuss crag out before? I might have cus create the

1546
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: funk out one time. He probably used to it, but

1547
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: he used to this ship. Yeah, you took your Japanese whiskey.

1548
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: It's what's saying. This is the dark side. You stayed,

1549
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,560
Speaker 1: you stayed in, you stayed in the champagne section. We

1550
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: respect that there's no sex in the champagne room. Man. Yeah,

1551
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: and he pouring heavy still he ain't learned, man. So

1552
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: you fucking strip clubs when we when we gotta go there,

1553
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 1: you know? So that's not what what? What what do

1554
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: you do? Shoot? You go out there? You just shooting

1555
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 1: shot people? What the shooting? Come on? That's that's that's

1556
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: that's your your version of fun on the night where

1557
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: you could just go out kill. You're going out and

1558
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: you want to go to shoot. We're probably going on

1559
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: the farm and shooting some a RS and a K.

1560
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: I released a lot of stress doing that. You're hunt

1561
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: into just not yet, but I'm about to start getting

1562
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: into some hunting. Yeah yeah, are you going all in

1563
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: what we're hunting? Sir? Man? If I go out there

1564
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: and chill with y'all, want to clear me with the

1565
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: army some boards or something, you know, like my whole thing.

1566
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: If my hunt, it's gotta be something that that's gonna

1567
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 1: be for a reason, a good reason. So like that

1568
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: we could eat he came through he never comes through down.

1569
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah huh. Yeah, that's the hardest record. That's you're broke

1570
01:31:50,200 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: right there. So yeah, yeah, pop that. Yeah. Yeah, so

1571
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: that's what that's what we're doing for fun, be going

1572
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: out Yeah, man, you know, I'm I'm you know in

1573
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: my thing. I'm training a lot too because you know,

1574
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm under the competitive shooting, so I'm always training and shot.

1575
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: So let's just be clear because I asked anybody this, So,

1576
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 1: how much pussy do you think you got to your

1577
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 1: your We're like, yeah, I mean you're not married no more.

1578
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I googled it, right, Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm.

1579
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: I still got a family and everything, so you know,

1580
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: I probably had my fun in my lifetime and you

1581
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: have a big you know, I know how I didn't

1582
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: have a big Your playlist was crazy today when I

1583
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: was going through it, I'm like, I was just calculated.

1584
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 1: I was like, you know how this is comedy because

1585
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: the money. I was just calculating the pussy there. I

1586
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: think you figure about you know what I'm saying, like

1587
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: we have fun, We have fun fun. It was a

1588
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 1: little celebrities. No, you knocked down a couple of roose

1589
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: No Celem. There's no celem for whatever love it makes

1590
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: space to know the motherfucker twist coming back. My back

1591
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:16,799
Speaker 1: got crazy and a little worry about it. You're married

1592
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: to tell You're like, yeah, we've been outside. Uh see yo,

1593
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: so how how crazy? How crazy is it? Oh? No, no, no,

1594
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: we off that like just just being you know what

1595
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like because you know, like like we said,

1596
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: like you know, from seeing Shytown, you know, coming from

1597
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: the error where you and Carmen and then seeing like

1598
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: all this drill things happen and people are and then

1599
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: you know with the Kanye and even everyone like the

1600
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: people having the light on y'all city, Like you know

1601
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, how ya like you know, like

1602
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: you've seen the whole process, right you pretty much? Man? Uhuh,

1603
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 1: get a lot, man, it's been interest. He told a lie.

1604
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying he took. He's a good guy

1605
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: and I forgot to say that, Brad. Right then I

1606
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: didn't say that, Brad. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about the Yeah,

1607
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: that's my girl problems. That's the homie. You know what

1608
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, the brand and shower of my sisters.

1609
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 1: Are you Are you drunk? Yeah? Sho you want another?

1610
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: You want another? Shout of japan taking? Yeah, that's it

1611
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: ended out. Some shut it out. He's going into it out. Man,

1612
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: you end it out to drink? Say to drink that?

1613
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 1: Do say too that we want it's closer to you.

1614
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: Come on, what do you want that the Japanese? Come

1615
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: get that Japanese. Yeah, let me get the champagne. Okay, yeah,

1616
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: let's got you the champagne. Baby damn. Yeah, Papa new

1617
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: one too, if you want. I know what's going on

1618
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 1: over and now we're started once again once again. Like

1619
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: I said, man, you know, we just want to give

1620
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: people their fliers while they're alive, you know what I mean?

1621
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: And people, you know, every time you're in this game,

1622
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 1: people get ten years or more. They want to tell

1623
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: you you washed up. They want to say we don't

1624
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: want that here. We're gonna pick up our legends. We're

1625
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna always salute our legends. Thank you, give you to

1626
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: your face and you know what I mean. We ain't

1627
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: afraid to say. You know, all niggas is great. We're

1628
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna hold it down. You know what I mean. Thank

1629
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 1: you for being a part of that. Think you'll for

1630
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: coming out. Appreciate me, y'all got y'all got mean? Did

1631
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: we just take some flip? You get loose now? I

1632
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't know, if you wrap it up,

1633
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 1: feel like you still it, feel like you ain't done. No,

1634
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: I'm good. Thanks for joining us for another episode of

1635
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,040
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