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Speaker 1: Quest Love Show is a production of iHeartRadio. Hey whateup, y'all.

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Speaker 2: This is Quest Love And in late twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: Quest Love Supreme had Cedric be entertainer on and this

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Speaker 2: was like the prime zoom days of Qlsson said was

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Speaker 2: chilling in his car waiting for his wife at the

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Speaker 2: Salon Classic setup, but he still gave us some jewels

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Speaker 2: about his journey into comedy, the lessons that he learned

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Speaker 2: and delving into his first novel, Flipping Box Cards. And

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Speaker 2: I always loved talking to comedians and Team Supreme and

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Speaker 2: I had a blast with this, so it became one

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Speaker 2: of our top performing episodes of that year. So I

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Speaker 2: want you to enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Word word, What's up? Right? Up?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Good good? And saw you guys the other night

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Speaker 3: that was lit You was there, Yeah, yeah, in l A.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was our Okay. It was my first time

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Speaker 1: at the former and I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I did it. Uh, I did it in

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Speaker 3: May with the tour we was on. That was I

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Speaker 3: had been.

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Speaker 4: I had actually did it one other time with me

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Speaker 4: and Georgia and all that. But it's a great performance venue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ready to be in a venue which there's

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Speaker 2: not bouncing sounding on us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, specific exactly.

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Speaker 5: We cann introduce ourselves to say, I'm like, yeah, how

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Speaker 5: you doing.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, I was working worked them out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah there, get all of them. It's a live.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: We met a few times. H.

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Speaker 7: I think I brought my family backstage and you guys

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Speaker 7: were in Raleigh. This was a couple of years ago

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Speaker 7: when you and Eddie and George I was doing your tour.

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Speaker 6: And youre telling I think you went food y'all played.

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Speaker 7: I think you and Pool was doing just do something

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Speaker 7: with sports together, something from the Pool had pool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. We had one of.

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Speaker 4: Those football things together. We was all in yeah, like

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Speaker 4: ship and Steve just rolled the joint though, what.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I just rolled ten joints.

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Speaker 5: It's his birthday.

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Speaker 3: Say let's go, Steve.

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Speaker 8: Let's got nice to me, yes, sir.

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Speaker 9: Congratulations on your book, man, It's nice to see all

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Speaker 9: these Saint Louis references in here.

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Speaker 5: I got a mama from there.

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Speaker 3: Our word okay, yeah yeah really yeah.

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Speaker 4: Really happy with the way it turned down and everything,

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Speaker 4: so super excited about it.

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Speaker 9: It looked like it's going to be on somebody's stage

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Speaker 9: or screen and it's a couple of years.

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Speaker 6: Maybe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's got definitely got all the elements of

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Speaker 4: being a great story.

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Speaker 3: Actually that's kind of where I started it.

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Speaker 4: I started writing the writing a TV show idea, and

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Speaker 4: then it and then the book Opportunity came.

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Speaker 2: So, so all right, ladies and gentlemen, the summer is over.

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Speaker 1: I hope you guys thrived and uh and did well. Uh.

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Speaker 2: There is another episode of Quest Love Supreme from hers

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Speaker 2: Quest Love. We have our team Supreme's with us. Take

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Speaker 2: a little bro, what's uping a working man?

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Speaker 1: Working? How is your summer? My summer was?

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Speaker 3: It was hot?

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Speaker 7: I think I realized this summer. My favorite season really

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Speaker 7: is fall. I think I only like summer as a

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Speaker 7: kid because there was no school. Summer as an adult,

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Speaker 7: it's fucking hot. I had this ship cuzow over Fall

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Speaker 7: got But I mean, but the summer it was cool.

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Speaker 7: I didn't get the cook as much as I wanted

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Speaker 7: to be. It was just it was just that hot.

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Speaker 7: It was too crazy. But uh but noah, we had

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Speaker 7: a good time man and the family too.

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Speaker 1: You have an outdoor set up and you prip oh yeah, Oh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I got my got my the big green egg.

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Speaker 7: I do it on that and you know that's fumbly

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Speaker 7: where I do all my all my cooking outside my grilling.

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Speaker 6: But uh, you.

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Speaker 5: Ain't a real grilling. You ain't got that egg. I

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Speaker 5: heard that's like a thing.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean it's it's official.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, listen, I hadn't seen dudes get busy

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Speaker 7: in a file cabinet before, so you know what I mean, if.

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Speaker 6: You got the skill to do it, you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean. I wanted to talk barbecue.

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Speaker 7: We will get into I want to talk barbecue to

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Speaker 7: see because I know you and Anthony y'all got your

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Speaker 6: So but yeah, man, yeah, someone was cool.

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Speaker 1: Someone was cool. Word up, that's right, Steve.

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Speaker 2: You remember we used to put out the deluxe George

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Speaker 2: Foreman grill on the patio.

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Speaker 8: No, we had a real barbecue, but Foreman was handy,

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Speaker 8: definitely andy.

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Speaker 1: I missed my former grill.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's probably still on that patio. I've left the

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Speaker 2: house like sixteen years ago. I bet you're still out there.

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Speaker 2: I was just talking to Steve. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Bro Man?

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Speaker 8: Just like Fonta's a lot, a lot of work, a

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Speaker 8: lot of projects, got the record label NonStop or just

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Speaker 8: did our twenty third record on JMI and uh twenty

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Speaker 8: three records, twenty three records, Yeah, man six six label Realuz,

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Speaker 8: you guys remember when it started, right around the time

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Speaker 8: Quest of Supreme started.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Ray, every one was the first one, wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: Was that a second second one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It's like ten really angry albums later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well our he's our flagship artist for sure, Okay, and

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Speaker 8: a lot of good stuff coming out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah cool. How goes it?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: It goes well? Much like Fante.

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Speaker 9: It was a hot summer, especially because it was my

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Speaker 9: first Parry summer, so that was an experience.

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Speaker 5: Oh fellas, So let me never tell you.

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Speaker 9: Perimenopause is the theft that happens before menopause.

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Speaker 5: It could pop off.

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Speaker 9: At like, you know, thirty five, starting the age of

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Speaker 9: thirty five. Mine happened a little later. And that's just

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Speaker 9: when you get all the heats from the menopause. All

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Speaker 9: your things are still rolling. You know, your body's still

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Speaker 9: doing things, maybe not as often, you know, I'd be

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Speaker 9: partying for fifty days without a situation.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, if you look at me now, there's a glow.

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Speaker 1: Saying every day summer for you, every day.

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Speaker 5: Summer, every day.

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Speaker 9: Shout out to your bandmate Kamal, who wanted to make

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Speaker 9: that known to everyone yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I'm still gonna kick his ass.

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Speaker 3: What did he do?

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Speaker 9: Oh no, he just didn't announce that I had my

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Speaker 9: menopause fan in my hand, and I was like, it is,

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Speaker 9: but let me tell my story.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no he only knews that because I

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Speaker 2: can attest that Kamal Tarique and maybe two other routes

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Speaker 2: also had their fans in there. There's a thing that

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Speaker 2: you plug into your iPhone and yeah it cools you off.

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Speaker 1: And yeah we're up there.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: This this, this is the summer in which I felt

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Speaker 2: whatever the equivalent of preschool is to being a senior citizen.

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Speaker 1: That was the summer the force. No, this was not

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Speaker 1: a music tour.

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Speaker 2: This was this was camp cool j This is literally

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Speaker 2: g I Jane.

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Speaker 5: Oh, please tell us something to mir or just tell

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Speaker 5: us something.

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Speaker 2: No like Ella wasn't having it like we've been. I

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Speaker 2: probably lost an additional fifteen pounds like he has working

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Speaker 2: out lifting weights, like getting cupping every night and similar

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Speaker 2: to the spot to get yo. I need you all

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Speaker 2: relax man getting drips oxygen tinks like llo is I

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Speaker 2: mean not like major pain level of drill, sergeant, but

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Speaker 2: like you don't take that.

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Speaker 9: You he looks phenomenal, So you know that it's got

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Speaker 9: to be a lot to make that happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's it's definitely an osmosis effect that's been happening.

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Speaker 1: So you know, four more gigs left.

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Speaker 2: But I will say this is one of the hardest

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Speaker 2: no running, none of that stuff. Like, I mean, you've

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Speaker 9: And it was the wettest I ever seen you. You got

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Speaker 9: off stage, you was like soaked. I was like, that's

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Speaker 9: not like you. You do this like it's nothing.

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Speaker 2: Three and a half hours. Well you saw short Hill.

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Speaker 2: That was just like three hours on the news. But

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Speaker 2: is where I'm the happiest. So again, I will say

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Speaker 2: that longtime listeners of the show should know how much

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Speaker 2: we love focusing on career pivots. All of us have

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Speaker 2: other things. And I will say that our guests this

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Speaker 2: and he has pivot to become a fixture on he's television, film,

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Speaker 2: a little bit. And he is a novelist and his

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Speaker 2: first novel, Flipping Box Cars, is currently out and he's

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Speaker 2: joined us to talk about his life, his career and

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Speaker 2: his many pivots. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for

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Speaker 10: For your next Black people have.

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Speaker 3: Wait.

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Speaker 1: So this is what you don't know.

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Speaker 2: Said Okay, So I without alienating my position with one

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Speaker 2: of my jobs with the Roots now fifteen years at

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Speaker 2: that job. We kind of have a short list of

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Speaker 2: the types of guests that get to the couch, but

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Speaker 2: we have a top five list of people who are

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Speaker 2: a snooze city, like like give it along, like when

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Speaker 2: you see it on television, it's perfectly edit it.

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Speaker 1: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: But these are like eighteen minute story like the equivalent

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Speaker 2: of me in real life on the show. It's to

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Speaker 2: the point now where all three of your ad libs,

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Speaker 2: like literally your ad libs are triggered on my computer

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Speaker 2: to the right. And that's what I used to sometimes

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Speaker 2: make fun of guests on the show. So you know,

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Speaker 2: if you happen to see us laughing from the couch,

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Speaker 2: you didn't say anything funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fuck no.

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Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite bits.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing, bro, I'm good, brother, I do it.

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Speaker 4: Everything is well, man, it's good.

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Speaker 1: Wait are you in the car right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, I was actually out with my wife.

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Speaker 2: So, at what point in the relationship do you realize

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Speaker 3: Right, My wife is not really big on.

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Speaker 4: But like you know, but like Thanksgiving, Chris, anything to

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know, Okay, they're all old and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was about to say, after after twenty three,

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Speaker 3: Like that's it. You know, you're.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my son's going to be twenty three in the

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. What's what's your seeing? And I'm always looking for advice?

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Speaker 2: What's what's the secret to keep me in the life?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean we really enjoy each other.

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Speaker 3: Be my girl. You know what I'm saying. You got

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Speaker 1: That's what's up.

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Speaker 2: I've never had an in depth conversation with any of

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Speaker 4: But like my uncle was and my cousins, they was funny,

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Speaker 4: And so I think that even my style of comedy

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Speaker 4: And then I had to learn how to put it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a couple of comedy clubs I like

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Speaker 3: But I'll also do it on the big stage. You know.

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Speaker 3: I've kind of gotten to the point to where if I.

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Speaker 4: Think I know what the joke is, I'll just do

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Speaker 2: Okay, answer this question to me about or how they

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Speaker 4: And there's some people who you know, definitely have you know,

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Speaker 3: You know for them.

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Speaker 4: But you know, most comedians we try not to be

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Speaker 4: So I'll try to go like you know, outside of

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Speaker 4: It's close to go to work, when when you go

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Speaker 2: So how how is how is UH lost or Hollywood divided?

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Speaker 4: things because to your point, even the bigger comedians where

445
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 4: people can draw a name and you know, and and

446
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 4: these these these kind of locations can do well they

447
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 4: have them, they find themselves struggling just to keep it packed,

448
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 4: you know. But you know it's again, there's a lot

449
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 4: of comedians so and there's a lot of comedians that

450
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 4: you know, want to get on stage and work that

451
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 4: that are dope, you know. So I think that, you know,

452
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 4: those are the kind of those are the kind of

453
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 4: spots that still.

454
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Speaker 3: Need a lot of love and support, uh you know,

455
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 3: you know.

456
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: And usually I'll go by when somebody like like you know,

457
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: where a friend of mine want me to really come

458
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 4: through like it something like that. I might pop up,

459
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 4: say alright, cool marble stage for a few minutes. But

460
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 4: I don't really work out like that much that like

461
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 4: when I'm in LA because between the TV show and

462
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: being a family man, when I go I don't really

463
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: want to just hang out and be like, you know,

464
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 4: do it the old school way. I'll be wanting to

465
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Speaker 4: go in, do my business and break out.

466
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Speaker 3: You know.

467
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Speaker 5: So is j Effany Brown's place still open? I've been

468
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 5: meaning to check on that place.

469
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, Like yeah again that was the

470
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Speaker 4: spot that was again had a lot of love, a

471
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: lot of residents. I would think so, but I hadn't heard.

472
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: I saw Jay not too long ago, and I didn't

473
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Speaker 4: even ask him.

474
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 3: About the club.

475
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Speaker 4: But but it seems as though it's still alive because

476
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: it's right near Soup Snoop Dogg's kind of big everybody

477
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 4: go and hang out.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So.

479
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Speaker 5: Can I go back real quick?

480
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Speaker 9: Because MEA talked about Saint Louis, But I just I

481
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 9: really want to get into Saint Louis a little bit

482
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Speaker 9: because you said you're from.

483
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Speaker 5: How do you pronounce it in Carthur? I couldn't say

484
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Speaker 5: it in the Brothersville?

485
00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 3: Yeah? Correct.

486
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Speaker 9: So can you break down what's the different what's the

487
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 9: distance between Carruthersville and Saint Louis And the difference is.

488
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 4: So Grutsville is like a super small town. It's like

489
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 4: and it's it's probably four hours, it's three and a

490
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 4: half hours from Saint Louis and probably an hour and

491
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 4: ten minutes from Memphis.

492
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: So it's like going south, like.

493
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: So we go, you go down south from Saint Louis

494
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: and you go towards Arkansas and Tennessee and it's right

495
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Speaker 4: in a boothill so and it's a small town, probably

496
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 4: three thousand people, three thirty Yeah, yeah, you're very different,

497
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 4: very segregated, you know, uh, you know, And but it's

498
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 4: on the river. It's on the Mississippi River. So where

499
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: you know where I prayed the when I framed the book.

500
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 4: In the forties, the river the riverboat cities were very

501
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: thriving because people traveled on the river a lot and

502
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 4: they were stopping.

503
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: They would eat and come and hang out.

504
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Speaker 4: And so these were like really kind of bustling little

505
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Speaker 4: small towns and so uh you know, with a thriving downtown.

506
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: Restaurants all that stuff.

507
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: So uh so that's where I kind of, you know,

508
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: tell that story around when my grandparents lived there, but

509
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, I grew up there as well.

510
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: What was what was the impetus of starting or for

511
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: you to go into storytelling and writing your first novel?

512
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 4: Well, you know, for me, it really kind of stems

513
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 4: from the idea that I was I was trying to

514
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 4: I was first of all, I was trying to like

515
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: just kind of have this connection to my my family. Right,

516
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 4: Like I grew up. My mother was a single parent.

517
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: She raised me and my sister, and so I didn't

518
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: really have my male figures around. I knew my dad,

519
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 4: but he wasn't really in our life, and so oftentimes,

520
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 4: you know, my mom will say, you, you know, that's

521
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 4: like my daddy would do that. My daddy would have

522
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 4: done this, and he had passed before I was ever born, so,

523
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 4: you know, and listening to stories about him, I started

524
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: to wonder, like, like what was my connection to somebody

525
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: I never met before?

526
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: Like what was that DNA?

527
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 4: That kind of led to me being very entrepreneurial, uh,

528
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: kind of a person that didn't want to work inside

529
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: the lines like I even though I had my degree,

530
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 4: I never wanted to have a job. Like my mom

531
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: used to be like, why don't you just work at

532
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 4: that company?

533
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't. I don't want to go

534
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: to work every day. That's not who I am.

535
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: She was like that my dad, that was like my dad,

536
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 4: you know, so you know, it was that kind of

537
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: thought process.

538
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: So I started to create the character based.

539
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 4: Off me having these machinations of who he was. And

540
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 4: then and then you know, I started to write a

541
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 4: TV story about it. Uh that kind of felt like

542
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: Boardwalk Empire. Always kind of loved that, uh, that character

543
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: Chalky White, because in a way, the way way yeah way,

544
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 4: my uh way my mom would describe it, he was

545
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 4: kind of the the the the de facto mayor of

546
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 4: the black side of town. He was the guy that

547
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: you call to get things done and all that stuff.

548
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: He was plugged in with the sheriff. And so I

549
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: basically put all.

550
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: That kind of stuff in the book and then told

551
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Speaker 4: this fictional tale about who he is to.

552
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Speaker 1: The seat of the start for you in the Pandemic.

553
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: No, you know, actually it was a little bit before that.

554
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 4: It was so interesting that, you know, because it was

555
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 4: it was times when I was kind of transitioning from

556
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: you know, like you know, movies. I was doing a

557
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: lot of movies in the early two thousands, you know,

558
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: and then my kids started to get to get older

559
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 4: where they couldn't travel and they couldn't come with us

560
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: because most of the movies weren't doing them in La anymore.

561
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 3: And so they were younger, they could come with me. Well,

562
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: we would shooting movies.

563
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: In Toronto and you know, and in Vancouver and then Hireland,

564
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 4: and you know, when when they were younger, my family

565
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: could come with me. Then they started to get their

566
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: own schedules. And so I was trying to figure out how,

567
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: like how I could still be a part of the

568
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: family structure and be a part of lifely without giving

569
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: it up. So I decided to do television. And that

570
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: was when it was like, you know, it was kind

571
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 4: of like, you know, considered a fallback. If you do television,

572
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 4: you was you weren't as hot as a movie star.

573
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 4: So and it instantly with streaming this up that everybody

574
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: had change. You got Yellowstone, you got movie stars coming

575
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: to TV now, so you know, but but it's like

576
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: but at that time, it was like a real, you know,

577
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 4: real hard move. And I had to make that kind

578
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: of strategy. And I started to think about like stuff

579
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: that my will pop in my head, like what would

580
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: my grandfather do in this situation, And so I start

581
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: writing the ideas down back then, and then you know,

582
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: the book kind of came uh as I was trying

583
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: to you know, kind of shape the show. Then the

584
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: opportunity for me to do the book because you know,

585
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: you know, the neighborhood was doing well, and so then

586
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: everybody started offering you all kinds of stuff.

587
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: Then they're like, yea, you want to do a book.

588
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: And I was like, I was like, yeah, but not

589
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: no book about me being a stand up and telling

590
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 4: you my kind.

591
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: Of doctor doc story.

592
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: I got a whole another idea and when I pitched it,

593
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 4: they loved it, and that was it. So I was

594
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 4: glad that it took. It took it like a year

595
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 4: and a half to really kind of shape it up.

596
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: Though.

597
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: So let me ask, because you know, one, we had

598
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: a pandemic, but what we're kind of going through right

599
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: now as we speak is kind of pandemic two point

600
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: zero for anybody that's kind of a professional in the industry.

601
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, is there ever okay? So

602
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: let me let me phrase it. America Ferrara.

603
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: When she started her Ugly Betty series, she told me

604
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: that she waited. You know, it was an instant hit

605
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: out the box, and she told me that she wanted

606
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: to wait till the third season before she felt safe

607
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: enough to like put down on that house and really,

608
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: you know, for there's a point where you go from

609
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: like living in that little apartment that you lived in

610
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: until you find that hit sitcom and then you really

611
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: want to make sure that you're contracting your money's writing

612
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: all that stuff. So she said, Okay, I'm gonna wait

613
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: until my third season, and you know, she nominated for Emmy.

614
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: So it just seemed like, okay, Plamo instant hit. And

615
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: then after season three they were like, all right, well

616
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: that's it. You're done knowing what you've been through, and

617
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: you know you're you're famous for the joke of you

618
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: guys not getting the cake.

619
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: You know, other shows you've been on that got canceled

620
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: without warning.

621
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no cake or anything.

622
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: So now that you're on like an established network comedy show, like,

623
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: do you always feel safer? Is there a part of

624
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: you that's always like, nope, let me have my plan

625
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: BC and D like.

626
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: Just in case you never know?

627
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: Definitely mean, I learned that a long time ago, because

628
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: it's such a fickle business, Like none of us really

629
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: saw like this strike coming, if you will, but you

630
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: do recognize that, you know, ratings or what's hot or

631
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: something new comes along this town. Just really fickle like that,

632
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: Like you know, so whatever the latest craze is, they'll

633
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: just figure out like, oh, we're gonna change to that now,

634
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: and you'll be like what happened?

635
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: You know? So I definitely I'm definitely far more cautious.

636
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: About you know, like just being you know, being super

637
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: confident that whatever I'm working, even though it is working,

638
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: that it's gonna always work.

639
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: You know. I mean, we we we We've.

640
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: Been ordered for the sixth season. So that's a real blessing. Theoretically, Yeah,

641
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: for the neighborhood. Theoretically, I like to go to eight,

642
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 4: you know. I like to go and be like yeah, yeah,

643
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: but you know, like shows like Blackish and you know,

644
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: other kind of black shows of that, I feel like

645
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 4: our hell competitivegree that's been on like major network should

646
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to run all the way out, like

647
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: tell your full story, you know, and so you know,

648
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: and then you know, but also like now as a producer,

649
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: I'm creating uh, you know, spin offs and other versions,

650
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: so again that you have the show live beyond it's

651
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 4: it's it's years and so these are the things that

652
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 4: I try to like even negotiate for while I know

653
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: that my show is doing well, I'm like, hey, give

654
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: me the spin off so that I can turn my

655
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: show into another show that could run another you know,

656
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: you know five six years that you know I can

657
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: be eating off of and do something else too.

658
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 5: I should see that with your sons, the sons.

659
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: So for me, there's there's a myth in the music

660
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: business where they say, like all it takes is one

661
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: hit and your set for life, which is kind of

662
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: a truth and a lie.

663
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, in other words, like uh.

664
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Speaker 2: Eighty eight, it ain't true today, right, yeah, yeah, but

665
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Speaker 2: you know, I'll say hip hop has definitely changed everyone's

666
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: lifestyle goals. So in other words, if I were the writer, Okay,

667
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: so if I was one of the writers of Queen's

668
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Speaker 2: under Pressure at the time when Vanilla I sampled it

669
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Speaker 2: and you know, sold ten billion copies, you know, that's

670
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: a nice check that I'm gonna get every year. And

671
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: if I maintained my lifestyle. But if you know, if

672
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Speaker 2: I'm pursuing a five million dollar lifestyle and I'm only

673
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Speaker 2: getting a million dollar.

674
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Speaker 1: Check, then like you're asked out.

675
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Speaker 2: But the equivalent of that in the television world is

676
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Speaker 2: when your show gets syndicated, is that the goal, like

677
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: can one actually like for.

678
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: Now, like for any act or any.

679
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: Actor actress that is on a show that's syndicated and

680
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: currently running right now, I'm certain that those checks are

681
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: helping a lot. While your current shows not only but

682
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: is syndicated money.

683
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: Still good, No, not anymore. It's very much, very parallel

684
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: to like you said, the music business. I mean it

685
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: used to be and probably and to some degree.

686
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Speaker 4: One of the big reasons why we're striking too is

687
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: that you know, new forms of media streaming, all these

688
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: all these companies kind of being yeah, being mixed in together.

689
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Speaker 4: They they protect themselves, you know, like I mean, CBS

690
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: is a part of.

691
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Speaker 3: Param my Paramount plus uh.

692
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: And then of course the whole what used to be

693
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: Viacom all their channels, so they will syndicate to yeh,

694
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: they syndicate to themselves, and and of course that will

695
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: ruin the ruin the money that used to be available,

696
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 4: right And it's internal and it's internal business. And and

697
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: they basically tell you that these are these are internal numbers.

698
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Speaker 3: This is what we're doing to protect our assets.

699
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Speaker 5: So that's that's the scary part.

700
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Speaker 9: Said I had just listened about that, and I was

701
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Speaker 9: we were just talking about this before you came on,

702
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 9: and we were talking about how like so if you're

703
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Speaker 9: on TV and you do syndication, because I think a

704
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 9: lot of times we need to explain this to the

705
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 9: people who actually watch TV.

706
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Speaker 5: They don't know the intricacies of this language a lot

707
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 5: of times.

708
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Speaker 9: And so the TV verse says, I was just watching

709
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 9: the actor from Breaking Bad saying that, like he's on

710
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 9: Netflix and Breaking Bads on Netflix, and that is zero

711
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 9: money that he receives from that, versus maybe if it

712
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Speaker 9: was on an actual network on TV, it would.

713
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Speaker 4: Be a more yeah, yeah, Like I mean the opportunities,

714
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 4: you know, we used to have this thing like where

715
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Speaker 4: you go like and I say, most people would understand,

716
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: like the Channel nines or Channel thirteens in your local

717
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 4: city and you see something that.

718
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Speaker 3: Come on after the evening news.

719
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: You get to watch everybody Love Raymond or Friends or

720
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: all this. That's where the money is because you got

721
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Speaker 4: to think it's one of those in every little town

722
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: and they all got to buy it in a way

723
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Speaker 4: as a part of a group or individual. And so

724
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: it's being sold that many times, right every episode, and

725
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: so so that's when they're buying it. But like a

726
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: Netflix will just take it and then they they're a

727
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: technology company, so they're not a broadcast company, so they

728
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Speaker 4: don't have to even rea reveal what numbers they Yeah,

729
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: it's like it's technology. I don't know, Like I don't know,

730
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

731
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Speaker 2: It's one of the striking points to finally reveal that.

732
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Speaker 4: That's that's that's one of the real gets to put

733
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: to push towards it because really what happened is not

734
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: even that we didn't know, is that we need to

735
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: be able to have the kind of uh, you know,

736
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: transparency because what they did is now is they kind

737
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Speaker 4: of take your intellectual property by not revealing it because

738
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 4: they do do original programming, because they do have people

739
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: create things for them. And then you don't have to

740
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 4: basically tell me what it is, right I can I

741
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: can pay you one time and and you can have

742
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: a hot show and I don't have to really ever

743
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 4: reveal to you how hot that show was, Like I

744
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: don't have to ever say it was, but I paid you,

745
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: and you know, and their thing is that usually they

746
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 4: paid more than what people used to get paid. So

747
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: that's how one for so many years because they would

748
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Speaker 4: pay you a larger premium. So to be on Netflix

749
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: was that good bag, right, it was that fat bag

750
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: and nobody really cared.

751
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Speaker 3: Like, you know, if I would get thirty.

752
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: Thousand on a regular show, Netflix might give me one

753
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty and you'd be like, give me that.

754
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: Right, but they might have made two million, and yeah.

755
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: You never know.

756
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: You never bothered the ass, and it didn't really get

757
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: you know, it didn't get important until shows got bigger

758
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: and bigger and you start to realize, like, oh, that's

759
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: really all we watching is Netflix a lot now, you know,

760
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: and and Prime and Hulu.

761
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: We only watching these shows. Now, where's the money.

762
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Speaker 9: So that's why I said, your pivot is more brilliant

763
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 9: than it looks, right, because not for nothing, do you

764
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 9: feel like your business is changing in a major way?

765
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 9: I tell them, I said to music people, I was like,

766
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 9: we used to be like, wait till I get to

767
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 9: TV and film. That's what the big money is.

768
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Speaker 3: Every day you've become in the music business. Now yeah,

769
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Speaker 3: the movie is No, it's so true.

770
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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, it looked like it's like every

771
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 7: business looked at the music industry and was like Yo,

772
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 7: they don't pay nobody watching we.

773
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: Exactly, and that's it. And you think it was the

774
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: digital the digital.

775
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: Platform that really changed the music business, when you know

776
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 4: when Sam came and the napster of it all and

777
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 4: people started to be and that changed the whole model

778
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: in that in that Netflix and Amazon basically changed the

779
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: model for us. Like once they got really hot and

780
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: locked in and then was able to create and become

781
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: the it, then everybody else wanted to be them. So

782
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: you think about it, Disney became Disney plus, Paramount became

783
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: Paramount plus the Peacock on NBC. Everybody took streamers so

784
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: that they can do their model. They don't want to

785
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: have to pay the individuals.

786
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Speaker 9: I was just gonna say, I just get really sad

787
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 9: about watching it because I come from a business that

788
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 9: used to be called black radio and nobody noticed when

789
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 9: we kind of got eaten up by a thing called podcast.

790
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: So I watched y'all.

791
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 9: Industry, and I'm like, oh, I mean, I watched hour

792
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 9: because this is something that I wanted to participate in

793
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 9: as well.

794
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 5: But it's scary. It's a little scary. I'm glad that

795
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 5: you have made this pivot to the novel.

796
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Speaker 2: That's literally yeah, because you are on a hit show

797
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: and I've seen a few people in the comedy world.

798
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: I'm bringing it back to clubbing and working out that

799
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: you know, you want to work out in the gym

800
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: and work out new material. But the more you're established

801
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: on your comedy show, it's like, the less that you

802
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: are working out your material on stage, does that worry

803
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: you a little bit? Like I mean, assuming that stand

804
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: up is your first love even though you're doing these

805
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: other things. But I mean, if it were all up

806
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: to you to choose one medium, would you just choose

807
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: acting or stand up or.

808
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: You know that's interesting. I mean, I think stand up

809
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: is the freest.

810
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: You know, I always say that, you know, I just

811
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: I did some shows this weekend.

812
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: I went and did a casino in Oklahoma.

813
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 4: And that's the really great thing about being a live

814
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: performer is that we have have so many like different space.

815
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: You've got comedy clubs, you got all these casinos across

816
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: the country. Now you know the whole Indian casino run.

817
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: You got the big casinos, you got you know, big venues.

818
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: You know, if we if I decided to do it

819
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: like a larger tour with some of our friends. Like

820
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 4: we did this summer with like uh straight jokes, no

821
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: chases with me and Mike Ebson, d L and DC

822
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: Young Fly. We was able to go and do arenas

823
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: and it was fun and we rocked that all the

824
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 4: way to May and then went on a break because music,

825
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 4: mainly the music acts, killed the summer. We you know,

826
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: we learned a long time if you stand up, don't

827
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: you go out there against me? You can't win against

828
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 4: and the festivals.

829
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't.

830
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 4: So we we stopped out tour in May and we'll

831
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: pick it back up in October, late October, November. So

832
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: I mean, but that's kind of what we've learned as

833
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: stand ups over the years, is like get out the

834
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: way of them, the big music acts. They're gonna murder

835
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: you and murder every ticket in the area and so

836
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 4: and so.

837
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Speaker 3: You so you're like all right.

838
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 4: Cool, but uh but you know again, I was able

839
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 4: to go and do a casino because it's kind of

840
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: an enclosed audience. You know, you can go and order

841
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 4: the casino gonna market to their people and they gonna say, hey,

842
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 4: said come in.

843
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: And I'm able to go and.

844
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Speaker 4: Do two thousand and three thousand seats, you know, two

845
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: nights in a row on my own. Like, so that's

846
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 4: that's a beautiful thing, right, So I respect to stand

847
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: up and I stay with it.

848
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: You know, I've been my whole career. I've never really

849
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: ever given it up.

850
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Speaker 4: You know, I've known I known comedians that you know,

851
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: you make it on television or you start making it

852
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: into movies and you kind of give up on it,

853
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: or you feel like you don't have to do it anymore.

854
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: But it is the it's the dojo. It's the place

855
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: where even if I'm gonna write a movie or be

856
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: in a movie, I like to go do stand up

857
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: before I just start the movie because it helps you.

858
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: It helps you kind of start your engine on your

859
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: comedy vibration. Like I got a character or something I'm

860
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: trying to do, I'd rather just go do some stand

861
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 4: up in a small place for a little bit just

862
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 4: to get my energy going. So like, all right, cool,

863
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: when I come to set, I'm gonna be funny as

864
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 4: this character.

865
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: Like I know, there's the hot ten and sometimes there's

866
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: the hot twenty.

867
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: If Chappelle asks you to do something or whatever.

868
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: But when you are like are you the type of

869
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: person that has to ramp your way up to you know,

870
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: seventy five ninety or whatever the time is for like

871
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: Netflix specials or HBO specials and whatnot.

872
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah, how hard is it ramping up to that?

873
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: Especially with I guess I'm asking you if are you

874
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: operating in the same way that an MC operates, like,

875
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 2: you know, like obviously you can take Fonte or even

876
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: Tariq from the roots, those both, you know, very.

877
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: Capable, excellent MC.

878
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: But this is kind of a new battleground if you will,

879
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: with new rules and MC's today don't relate to the

880
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: you know, or do that the same process as yesterday's

881
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: to see is it that way for the for the

882
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: comedy world or is it still about for you a punchline?

883
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: Chris Rock told me that he doesn't believe in a

884
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: punchline anymore, which kind of shocked me.

885
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, you know it is it is

886
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 3: a little different.

887
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 4: I definitely think that new comedy has kind of removed

888
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 4: the idea of punchlines, you know, like people are more

889
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 4: like into like trying to deliver, you know. I think

890
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: I think after Chappelle hit, everybody just want to be

891
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: prolific man, like everybody want to like try to deliver

892
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: like they you know, these brilliant sware people, and that's

893
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: just him, like he he got a totally different brand

894
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 4: than everybody.

895
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: Right, So you read, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

896
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 3: a lot of people a.

897
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: Lot of people don't read, and then they want to

898
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: be out they talk about they saying smart stuff.

899
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: But you know, like you like, bro, where do you

900
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: get that from? So?

901
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 4: But I think that for you know, for me, like

902
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: the idea of like even thinking about delivering a special,

903
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: like I really I'm probably one of the one comics

904
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 4: that take a lot of time between my specials because

905
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: I have material that I feel like makes it special.

906
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm also not a person that's very

907
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: interested in just kind of throwing stuff out there.

908
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 3: You know. I think people use it for a number

909
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: of different reasons.

910
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: One, you know, you might have the deal on the table, right,

911
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: they might say, all right, cool, were throwing a bag

912
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: at you put this special out, And you'll see people

913
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: go do it just just so they could get the money, right,

914
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: And then and then you have people that really feel

915
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 4: like they got something to say right now, and then

916
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: you know, and they'll put those specials out. But I

917
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: think in the last couple of years, you know, for me,

918
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: it's all about like just making sure that my my material,

919
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: my personality, what it is that I want to say

920
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: is all in tune with the brand I built over

921
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: thirty years. So I'm not gonna just go out there

922
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: and just take like little chance. I think y'all like

923
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: that too, as far as the roots go, as far

924
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: as my opinion, like y'all, y'all, y'all are curators of y'all,

925
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 4: of y'all brand, Like in a real way we were.

926
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: When we was watching on stage the other night, me

927
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 4: and my wife were saying the same things, like nobody

928
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: has the.

929
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: Abillity that to entertain like they do.

930
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 4: Like you know, you'll see the new people like that,

931
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: you know, kind of come out and maybe have a

932
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 4: band on stage with them. But it's like the combination

933
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: of musicality, real professionalism and uh and something you know

934
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 4: you gonna get when you spend your money, right, I

935
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: know it's gonna be lit.

936
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: I got it right now.

937
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: I know, like going to mastros or or a quality

938
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 4: restaurant where you know is gonna be good.

939
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about it like it's good.

940
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: So that's what I try to.

941
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 4: Deliver when I'm when i'm you know, and i'm doing

942
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: specials or anything.

943
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: So I've done. I'm never in a big hurry to

944
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: just throw out anything.

945
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: You're not putting any pressure on me whatsoever for my

946
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: future in music.

947
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: He's saying, do what you continue to do, Do what

948
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: you continue to do.

949
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm really just shocked that no one's really done a

950
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: concentrated study on how you your whole clique and Walter

951
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: Lathan kind of, yeah, built the brand and built you

952
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: guys up.

953
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: So can you just talk about that that that.

954
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: Initial period of Yeah, matter of fact, is Walter still

955
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: active in terms of throwing shows or.

956
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: Not that I know of that. He tried to do

957
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: some stuff on the internet not.

958
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: Too long ago, or try to like create some brand

959
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 4: where he was like taking you know, using like young

960
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: comedians and kind of using his kings of comedy, uh,

961
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: you know, pedigree to do things for people.

962
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: But I think it all kind of burnt out, for

963
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: my opinion.

964
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 4: But you know, he was he was just he was

965
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: a he was a young creative uh you know, show

966
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: promoter at the time, and he was he was just

967
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 4: one of these guys that had, like, you know, he

968
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: was aggressive and young and had good ideas and a

969
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: lot of heart, and so he he he would do

970
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 4: all of us individually. He d Steve, you know, and

971
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 4: you know, these would be theater shows, you know, small theaters,

972
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: And he did Steve, and then he did Bernie. Then

973
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: he did Steven Bernie. One time he would do d

974
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 4: L and I together. He was the one when when

975
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 4: I became the host of Comic View, DL used to

976
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: be the host, and he put us together and called it,

977
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: you know, the host of the host of BT or

978
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 4: something like that, and put us together and we were

979
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 4: able to go out together and.

980
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: Do these tours.

981
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: So I think it's inside of that space where he

982
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: looked at his numbers and saw, like, all these guys

983
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 4: were doing these numbers in these individual situations. What if

984
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 4: I put them all together, I probably could.

985
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: Do an arena.

986
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 4: And so that's really how the Kings of Comedy came about.

987
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: He it was it was his idea. He kind of

988
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: called us, put us together, put the tour together. But

989
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 4: I do think that in the process of that, he

990
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: started to think he was the other king of comedy.

991
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: And so it's like his own hubrist kind of got

992
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 4: in the way. And then you know, it was it

993
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 4: was after the show and the movie came out that

994
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: you know, it was so many little things that he

995
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: just was. Nobody wanted to be in business with him,

996
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: no more.

997
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: So that was it.

998
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 5: But he you know, he didn't do the Queen, he

999
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 5: didn't do the Queens.

1000
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: He didn't do the Queens. You know, the Kings, the Kings. Yeah,

1001
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: the Kings and Queens. But he he had that Kings.

1002
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 4: And Queen's title and uh, and then he did a

1003
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: few other ones. He did a couple of tours after,

1004
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 4: but nothing to the magnitude of the Kings of Comedy

1005
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: and the Queens of Comedy.

1006
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 5: Is that is that the original roster? I just wanted

1007
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 5: to know. I always wanted to know, But the Kings

1008
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 5: of Comedy?

1009
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 9: Was there ever somebody that was wanted it originally or

1010
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 9: that got dropped off of the list?

1011
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: No, deal was in an addition, it started out just me,

1012
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: Steven Bernie.

1013
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 4: And then then they added d L and then that

1014
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: that became the one that you know that really toured

1015
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: around and got hot.

1016
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, we started out just the three of us.

1017
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 4: We got Tori got Toy with m C and uh

1018
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 4: and and had a night popping got.

1019
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: When you're doing that, like who's determining like the order

1020
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: things and who's the the or at least the curation

1021
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: of it all, it would be it's it's usually the comedians.

1022
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: I mean on a tour like that, we decide and

1023
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: it's and it's usually you know, usually an honor or

1024
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: respect thing, you know, depending on you know, who's on

1025
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 4: the tour. Like usually people just kind of you know,

1026
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 4: give props to you know, whoever the og is and

1027
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 4: be like, yo, you go last if you want to.

1028
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: But on our tour, I remember like Bernie was the

1029
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 4: it dude, Like Bernie was the dude. But Bernie wanted

1030
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: he called it the hammock. He didn't want to he

1031
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 4: didn't want to go first, and he didn't want to

1032
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: go last. He wanted to lay in the hammy.

1033
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1034
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so last and first is the penultimate, right before last.

1035
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: That's the sweet spot.

1036
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

1037
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: So so you know, even on the special it looked

1038
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: like Bernie go last, but when we actually shot it,

1039
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 4: he was.

1040
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: He was in the hammock. He did not go last night.

1041
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: It was the I went last, and he would, but

1042
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 4: on the special, the way the edit work, it was

1043
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: better for him to go last for the movie of

1044
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: it all. But he performed in his hammock. That's that's

1045
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: what he liked. Was like, that's where I want to be.

1046
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: And he had been out, you know, I got it.

1047
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 4: He had been out like Bernie got Hot before the

1048
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 4: rest of us, and he had did like big tours

1049
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: on his own, and so when he decided to do

1050
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: the Kings, he was just like, look, man, I already

1051
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: been out like as a big star.

1052
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: Already touring.

1053
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: I like the idea of this, but you know again,

1054
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: we're doing thirty forty minute sets.

1055
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: Me let me ride easy.

1056
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: So I got it. And so that became. That became

1057
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: a thing that a lot of comics like to do

1058
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 4: to this day. Like you said me, like we all

1059
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 4: like to We like to go in that spot right

1060
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 4: before last. It's just less pressure. You could kill it

1061
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: and you could be gone, be like yo, dude somehow

1062
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: like and and if and if you don't kill it,

1063
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: then you know somebody else coming behind you, and everybody

1064
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: can have a good time and they ain't gonna blame you. Yeah,

1065
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: they're gonna blame you that the show was bomb ass

1066
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 4: or whatever. But so you know you so but uh

1067
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: but it's usually a respect things, usually the comics deciding

1068
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: where everybody want to go according to who we feel,

1069
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: you know deep deserves that that reverence or whatever.

1070
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 7: You know, how involved were you guys working with Spike

1071
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 7: and filming that was he kind of hands on with

1072
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 7: you guys, or he just let you no.

1073
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: It was a it was a you know, it was

1074
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: a one.

1075
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: We all made a choice that you know, because we

1076
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: were trying to find somebody to direct the movie we had.

1077
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: It was it was our choice.

1078
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: We were all partners on the movie, and Spike you know,

1079
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: came up of course presented the idea that he wanted

1080
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 4: to do it, and I mean he was the most

1081
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: expensive one to make our partner, but we also knew

1082
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: that it was the best move to get a movie.

1083
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 4: It's you know, the kind of create the kind of

1084
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: cred that we wanted. And and then you know, he

1085
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 4: Spike Lee. He really loved comedy, He loved he loved

1086
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 4: the idea of being He came, I think we did

1087
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 4: Radio City Music Hall. He came and watched this, came backstage,

1088
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 4: talked about it. He just super hyped, and we was like, yeah,

1089
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 4: this will be crazy, this Spike does this movie, so

1090
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: you know, and it just ended up being the right

1091
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 4: move for us. And again, you know, we knew that

1092
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 4: when you bring Spike on, you know, he gonna cut

1093
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 4: into the money, like all the money that we could

1094
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: have gotten.

1095
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: For us it. You know, you could have used Billy

1096
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 3: Woodrow for somebody, you know.

1097
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 9: That guy, right, Hey, Wake, I gotta ask you because

1098
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 9: from a fan perspective, for y'all, those fellas two questions.

1099
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 5: Number one, I just got to know how you preserve Bernie.

1100
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 9: In your heart and also like the relationship with you

1101
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 9: and and these men, like how do y'all make sure

1102
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 9: that y'all continue to nurture it?

1103
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: Oh dah, Yeah, for sure.

1104
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I just did my golf tournament,

1105
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: my celebrity tournament, charity tournament last year. Both Steve and

1106
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 4: d L came.

1107
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: You know. Of course me and.

1108
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 4: DL we probably we see each other most because our

1109
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 4: wives are friends, like real friends, So we see each

1110
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: other a lot, you know, go to dinner and hang out,

1111
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,959
Speaker 4: you know, and then we tour a lot of much

1112
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: a lot too, like all the kind of big arena

1113
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: tours I've been on DL been a part of them,

1114
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 4: so you know, we got that kind of brotherhood and

1115
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: then be back in just one of these guys man

1116
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 4: that you know, whenever we you know, we always related

1117
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 4: to the kings of comedy, and so you know almost

1118
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 4: in any interview, every situation, he's gonna come he's gonna

1119
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 4: come up and be a part of it.

1120
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 3: But he you know, kind of like.

1121
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 4: What Quest was saying about, like certain jokes or cert

1122
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 4: he just got so many cash phrases that all of

1123
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: us that that day I go to for regular regular life.

1124
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: You know, if somebody say something off you know, off

1125
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: kill too, then we you know, we're gonna pull out.

1126
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 4: As you know, it's like they're just a part of

1127
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 4: like the part of like how we made up, especially

1128
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 4: by being with him so much on the tour. You know,

1129
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: like he would he just have a hundred you don't

1130
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 4: want to fifty yard line, but it's first and goal.

1131
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 4: You know, you'd be like what, you know what I'm

1132
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 4: so that means, that means that's wherever I am in life.

1133
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: I'm out here trying to win, and I believe I

1134
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: could win. At this point, I'm on the fifty yard

1135
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 4: line for him. It's first in gold and I was like, Dicky,

1136
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 4: I love that one right there, Like so you know,

1137
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: let's let's be back.

1138
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: That is kind of language.

1139
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you about two of my most

1140
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 7: favorite roles that you have done, Gus.

1141
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 6: Pitch and Jazzy D.

1142
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, Gus Pitch was tor and uh, jazz D was

1143
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 11: top five, top this rock movie.

1144
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: Both of both of them was like these sleeper movies.

1145
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: Man, that I was always really really good, you know,

1146
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: really blessed to be a part of these.

1147
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 3: Life was like one.

1148
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 4: Gus Petch was like just a fun character because it

1149
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 4: was like, yo, you get to be in a movie

1150
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: with George Clooney and Kepta Zada Jones and uh, you

1151
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: know just.

1152
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: The character you did. You did Detective and it was

1153
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: the Coen Brothers.

1154
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, please, because that was really it was an

1155
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 7: unconventional film for what they normally kind of do, you know, like.

1156
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: They you know, they're you know, they're super artists, so

1157
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: you know, and they're very eclectic and different. Of course,

1158
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: you know, Joel is you know, probably a little bit

1159
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: more talkative, and then Ethan is kind of like, you know,

1160
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: laid back and so but they were both like they

1161
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: both like really enjoyed what I was bringing to the character.

1162
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 4: So like once they kind of recognized like what I

1163
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: was gonna do and what I was doing as a character,

1164
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 4: then it was like really fun. They just kind of

1165
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 4: embraced so many things that like choices that I kind

1166
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 4: of wanted to make as the guy. But I think

1167
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 4: you had to kind of earn it with them, like,

1168
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 4: you know, because they are very specific to their vision,

1169
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 4: you know.

1170
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: That was the one thing and I think that.

1171
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: With that particular movie, to your point, it was a

1172
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 4: little outside their normal thing of what they was, what

1173
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: they kind of normally do, so they they kind of

1174
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 4: trusted you know. I was thinking about even like what

1175
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Rush did in that movie and all those kind

1176
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: of things and Billy Bob, Billy Bob, you.

1177
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 3: Know, like all these kind of things. They people did

1178
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: different little you know, character choices, and I think they

1179
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 3: they kind.

1180
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: Of opened up and like, yeah, you know what, all right,

1181
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 4: try it, you know, so I think you and then uh,

1182
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 4: and then with Top five, you know that was Chris

1183
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: Rock he was directing, he had ridden the movie, he

1184
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 4: was he had you know, he was directing the film

1185
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 4: and he you know, he a brother, right, you know,

1186
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 4: you know he my comedic brother. So we we've been

1187
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 4: knowing each other many years and toured been on dates together.

1188
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: And when he told me what the character was, I

1189
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: was like, say less man Like he was like, you know,

1190
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 4: it's the dude that you know that when we when

1191
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 4: we start coming up, the dude that it promised you

1192
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 4: all this stuff.

1193
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 3: And you know I'm in the limo for you. Don't

1194
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: worry about it. I got you in the dope hotel.

1195
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 3: You could this, I do it. Trust me. I'm the

1196
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: man in Houston.

1197
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, say less if I if

1198
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 4: I ain't met this dude one hundred and thirty times

1199
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 4: exactly who he is.

1200
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 9: That whole scene came back to me Cary Red and

1201
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 9: all the stuff.

1202
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, so.

1203
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: Now that person still beat me.

1204
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1205
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 4: Me getting them hangers, that was like, that's like the

1206
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 4: real thing because you realize, like people always still in

1207
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 4: the wooden angers from the hotels, and they got good

1208
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 4: wooden angers.

1209
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 3: You're like, oh man, they got the lock on them. Yeah,

1210
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: they got the lock on me.

1211
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 5: Are you the hangers are two piece?

1212
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: Now a mire? Oh dog?

1213
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 2: I thought it was the only person that that did that.

1214
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: All my good hangers at home? Yeah, man, the world boy.

1215
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah man, yeah, the good the good Angers. You

1216
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: go to the hotel, they got the good Angers. You're

1217
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: like they got they about to get got.

1218
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 1: That's a rap.

1219
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna well, I'm gonna add it on

1220
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: to what they said. You get character actor roles, but

1221
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: you are not a character actor.

1222
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: Like everyone knows who you are.

1223
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: So how did you how did you nuance that in

1224
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: starting Your first movie was Ride?

1225
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Was it not?

1226
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, first movie was Ride?

1227
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: Uh you know, and I think you know that was

1228
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: that was the one thing I think like even my

1229
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: stand up early on, I used to I used to do.

1230
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: A lot of characters on stage, like you know.

1231
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: Like act out things fully. So in my mind I

1232
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 4: just kind of transitioned the idea that, you know, where

1233
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: I would write a joke, I would try to develop

1234
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 4: a character, so you know, like he like the like

1235
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: the old man in the barbershop. They was a choice,

1236
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 4: like Eddie was a choice. Like they wanted me to

1237
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 4: play a different role, and I was like, no, I

1238
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 4: want to be the old man. And I remember everybody

1239
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: was like, well, we want to cast a real old man,

1240
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: and I was like, well, just let me, let me

1241
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 4: read it, let me just show you what I'm gonna

1242
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: do with it.

1243
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 3: But I had this guy like that.

1244
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 4: There was a combination of a dude at my mom's

1245
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: church and somebody else, and it was this whole beat

1246
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: of like who this dude was.

1247
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: I knew exactly who he was.

1248
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 4: And so I got to the point I could do Eddie.

1249
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: I didn't even need dialogue, like you just give me

1250
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: your circumstances and Eddie just gonna come out of me,

1251
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 4: like I know the stuff people say, and it was

1252
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 4: just that. And so the directors started seeing that and

1253
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 4: they was like, all right, cool, No, that was before

1254
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: we even shot. So when they gave me the character

1255
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 4: that was, that was great for me. And that was

1256
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: really one of those transitional spots because that kind of

1257
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: like you know, really like changed me from being just

1258
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 4: a character actor in the movie that people saying, all right, cool,

1259
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 4: you can lead a movie. And so I started to

1260
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 4: get other little movie rolls Johnson Family and Honeymooners and

1261
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: little things.

1262
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: But I loved doing to your question quests.

1263
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 4: I loved like getting like just great little character roles

1264
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 4: that like show up in the movie with the with

1265
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: the right people and you know, and where you can

1266
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: just come in and steal scenes and.

1267
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 3: And and then and this burnout like those are fun

1268
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: to me.

1269
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: I think I always loved like like when Don Cheeto

1270
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: did Devil in a Blue Dress, like you know, we

1271
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: had Yeah, we loved, we loved to Zel, but Mouse

1272
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 4: was our he was just he wasn't all through the movie,

1273
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: but he was like where Mouse, ad give me more Mouse.

1274
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 3: I wanted to say that character.

1275
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 9: There has never been a moment said when you walked

1276
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 9: on the set and felt intimidated in that way.

1277
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: No, I mean you know, like uh you know, like

1278
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 3: with that that that the first scene in Tarborough Cruelty.

1279
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: I had to do a scene with George Clooney like

1280
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 4: the first day I got there, and you know, it

1281
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 4: was one of those things and knowing like he was

1282
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 4: Cloney at the time, and you know, and you just

1283
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: kind of want to do the right thing and you

1284
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 4: just you know, so But I never I never really

1285
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: got small. I just was very careful, right, like you're

1286
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 4: kind of like more careful, like making sure you know,

1287
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 4: you know, And I knew the Cohen Brothers was a

1288
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 4: big deal and it's all these things where you just

1289
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 4: want to be like, I don't want to be this

1290
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: guy to come in and act like these people not

1291
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 4: a big deal, and then you find out like, oh

1292
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 4: that was offensive or whatever. So that's the that's the

1293
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 4: young virgin. But you know, I always kind of was

1294
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 4: confident in who I was and what I was coming

1295
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 4: there to do, so I just leaned into that more

1296
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: than anything.

1297
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 5: Did they know who because as your fans, did they

1298
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 5: know who you were? I just always been curious.

1299
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 9: About that, like you step on that Coin Brothers that

1300
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 9: George Clooney know like I'm a cane.

1301
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: Clooney did, But the Cohen Brothers really knew. I think

1302
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 3: they knew like after once they kind of got into.

1303
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 4: Casting and I had to kind of go there a

1304
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 4: couple of times, and then they you know, and a rehearsal,

1305
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 4: then they kind of realized like, oh, oh you like

1306
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: really that dude, but like people.

1307
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 5: Will come see this movie for you like that?

1308
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I don't think they knew that

1309
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: right away.

1310
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: Are you still in the occasional audition phase or is

1311
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: it I once set the entertainer and you don't here's

1312
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: the script tell me or not?

1313
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: No, I will.

1314
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: I will always you know, I tell teens that sometimes

1315
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 4: people don't they don't see me or you know, see

1316
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: me in a certain role. So if I must audition,

1317
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 4: if it's something I like and I want to do

1318
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 4: and I must audition, I will. I definitely prefer to

1319
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 4: be offered you know what I mean, you know, but

1320
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 4: it's certain roles, Like it was a role that came up.

1321
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: I don't even know if they ever shot this project,

1322
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 4: but it was a role that came up, and it

1323
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: was a cool like you know, Apple TV series, and

1324
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 4: it was it was something that I wanted to do.

1325
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 4: It's very liking it to the character in my book,

1326
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 4: and I don't think anybody would have saw me as

1327
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 4: this character. But I was already kind of on this

1328
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 4: journey and when I saw the breakdown, I was like, YO,

1329
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 4: give me an audition.

1330
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 3: Like I want to go in. And I had a

1331
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 3: long you know.

1332
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: Because of that, I was able to go a long

1333
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 4: way with the directors and the producers. But I'm not

1334
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 4: sure what direction it would. I've never seen the project

1335
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 4: come out, so but I know I ain't get the role,

1336
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: but I did. I did open the conversation up once

1337
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 4: they all like what.

1338
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: I could do.

1339
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 4: Then people started to be like it became a little

1340
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 4: more real and you know, by doing.

1341
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: The audition, So I wasn't afraid for that. Like those

1342
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 3: kind of things make sense.

1343
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: Was there a role that you passed up that you

1344
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: later had a regret about doing?

1345
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 3: I e.

1346
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Will Smith passing up on the Matrix Matrix.

1347
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 4: Man, let me see, not necessarely. I know that I

1348
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to do like Mike, uh that movie

1349
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 4: like Mike, But it was also at the same time

1350
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 4: that I could do Barbershop and I felt like I

1351
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 4: made the But I just remember one was a bigger

1352
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 4: money play and you know, and my team was like, Yo,

1353
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna get paid over here. This's a big movie.

1354
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 4: And then the other one was a small movie and

1355
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 4: I was like.

1356
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 5: That became a franchise.

1357
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly of move. So I was trying to

1358
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: think of like ones where I didn't where I kind

1359
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,479
Speaker 3: of passed up that I didn't get. Uh, nothing really

1360
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: comes to mind that. I was like, Yo, I'm you know,

1361
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: I kind of regret I didn't get that one.

1362
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 7: Man talk about threats the jay Z tract, like like, yeah.

1363
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: You two have something in common, sort of uh yeah, yeah,

1364
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: a six degree the separation way with the threats studio.

1365
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,479
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

1366
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 4: So uh yeah, I was, uh, you know, I'd seen

1367
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 4: Jay like, you know, throughout my careers many times, and

1368
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 4: so I just told him one time.

1369
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, but everyone in New York I

1370
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: want to see you work. And I come to the studio.

1371
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 4: Everybody told me about, you know, the rain Man thing

1372
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 4: he does and how he just kind of ride to

1373
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 4: move and I just asked him could I come to

1374
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: the studio and he was like, yeah, no doubt.

1375
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 3: So I go. One time.

1376
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: He's there, We in the studio and everybody just kind

1377
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 4: of hanging out and he's like, I gotta leave. I

1378
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: gotta go and run some Aaron, but I'm working on

1379
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 4: this this threat situation. I'm working on this thing. And

1380
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 4: he was like, it's on the it's on like some

1381
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 4: Mad the Rapper type stuff. You can just throw something

1382
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 4: out there, let me know, you know, And so he

1383
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 4: literally left. I think it was ninth and uh it

1384
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 4: was ninth and Guru was there and I just kind

1385
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: of like went in and just started freestyling it and

1386
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 4: then he called me maybe a few months later.

1387
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, man, you made the album.

1388
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 4: I was like what he was like, Yo, he made

1389
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 4: the album. I was like, oh man, that was crazy.

1390
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: It was the black album. So it made you feel like, yo,

1391
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 4: it won you just a part of like, you know, superhistory,

1392
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 4: and so I was I was really happy to be

1393
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 4: a part of that.

1394
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 3: You know. It's kind of the same thing on the.

1395
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 4: Nellyville on Country Grammar that was d Ray doing Bernie.

1396
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: Damn. I did not know that was d Ray.

1397
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is d Ray doing.

1398
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh that wasn't Bernie mac all right?

1399
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 5: Talented? I ain't know.

1400
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1401
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Seeing you at at this stage of your life, is

1402
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: there any is there anything that you have yet to.

1403
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: Achieve that you have like as a bucket list, do

1404
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: you feel like now's the time for you to just

1405
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: get your bucket list storing and and start greenlighting your

1406
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: own projects or whatnot?

1407
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: Like what do you.

1408
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of really the space I'm in now,

1409
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 4: you know, of course, like the strike really really teaches

1410
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 4: you that too, Like you can't always kind of like

1411
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 4: you know, expect that you will have time or that

1412
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: everything that you want to do will just show up

1413
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 4: when when you need to, and so, uh, you know,

1414
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I definitely want to get

1415
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 4: back into the movie space like in the starring role Pards.

1416
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 4: You know, like you're looking for those. So I started

1417
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 4: to write movies that you know that I feel like

1418
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 4: makes sense for me.

1419
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: Uh And then yeah, exactly, I think that too.

1420
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 4: More so to your question question, is that it is

1421
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 4: dramas that I you know, like people hadn't necessarily seeing

1422
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 4: really stick my foot in something, right, you know I did.

1423
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 4: I did that first Reformed with Ethan Hogg that was

1424
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 4: out last year, really you know, really moved with Paul Schrader,

1425
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 4: great director, you know, and Ethan hagg A man. The

1426
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 4: Safe Free a small kind of an artsy film, it was.

1427
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 4: It was a dramatic role. We got some nominations, we

1428
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 4: got some looks, you know, but again it wouldn't be

1429
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 4: something that black people would go see, I don't think

1430
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 4: right away.

1431
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: Uh so and get certain times.

1432
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 5: Of black people said they're not a mona.

1433
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 3: Less exactly, it gets so true. I'm gonna throw that

1434
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: out there.

1435
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 4: Yes, that's our question goes maybe you know, yeah, yeah, no,

1436
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 4: and it gives it it's a.

1437
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: Great film because again, dynamic actors in there.

1438
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 4: Uh and it's still, you know, kind of uniquely done,

1439
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 4: very quiet movie.

1440
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: You know, not a lot of you know, all about

1441
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 3: the words, all about the emotion, uh the go. That's

1442
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: a style.

1443
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 4: It's called like transcendental or something like that. Some a

1444
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 4: it's a style of movie shooting.

1445
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 3: But you know, that's that. That's pretty much what I

1446
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 3: would say bucket list.

1447
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 4: I'm looking for a character or a series or something

1448
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 4: I could stick my teeth into where people could see

1449
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 4: me be a little.

1450
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 3: More dramatic in in my in my play. You know, I.

1451
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: Can't believe my very first question to you that I

1452
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: didn't ask, and it looks like it is going to

1453
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: be my last question to you. How did you come

1454
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: up with your moniker? I do not know the story

1455
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: of how you became Cedric the entertainer.

1456
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 3: Oh oh wow, Oh yeah, that's a that's a that's

1457
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 3: a crazy story that that story really kind of really

1458
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 3: kind of came from.

1459
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 4: I always say it was me trying to it's fairly

1460
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: certain diputies. It was the idea that I didn't want

1461
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 4: to be. I got very popular in Saint Louis, right,

1462
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 4: A lot of people I was doing comedy, people knew me.

1463
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 4: I would call into the radio. I would get booked,

1464
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 4: but I didn't have a lot of jokes. I would,

1465
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: you know, I had, you know, ten minutes work for jokes.

1466
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 4: And then so to get really paid, you have to

1467
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 4: do at least thirty minutes forty minutes on stage. So

1468
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 4: I would sing, I sing a whole Luther song, I'd

1469
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 4: do a poem, I'd.

1470
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: Do a dance routine.

1471
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 4: I do a whole bit about being on Soul Train,

1472
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 4: and I play like nine songs so I could do

1473
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 4: the different dances. I would fill up my time. And

1474
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 4: so one night it was a guy, you know, just

1475
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 4: kind of introducing everybody. He kept saying, this next comedian,

1476
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 4: this next comedian. And I was like, don't call me

1477
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 4: a comedian, because I don't have enough jokes to be

1478
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 4: called a comedian. Call me an entertainer. And he called

1479
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 4: me Cedric be entertainer. I went up, I rocked it,

1480
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 4: and then and when I came off, I had a

1481
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 4: standovation and he called me Cedric be entertainer again, and

1482
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 4: I just kept it.

1483
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: I was like, that's the name.

1484
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: Nice as a comedian. I've seen you do CrowdWork before.

1485
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: Do you like doing crowd work or is it too

1486
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: much pressure to think that fast.

1487
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: I'm not that fast, man. I mean, I could do

1488
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: it if it happens to be the situations, which yeah, yeah,

1489
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: when you're hosting, you gotta you gotta be like yo,

1490
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 3: like just kind of let the room like kind of

1491
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: come to you.

1492
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 4: But it's not a thing that I'm very comfortable with

1493
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 4: because it promotes people talking back, you know, it promotes

1494
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 4: and I am more of a I am more of

1495
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: a stake.

1496
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: You don't have like five quips for a heckler just

1497
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 1: in case they want.

1498
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 3: To for sure, you know, I'm ready now, like I

1499
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: keep I keep it locked.

1500
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 4: But but the thing is is that you know, I

1501
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 4: much rather when I'm on stage, I much rather come

1502
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 4: there for the performance. So actually some of my opening

1503
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 4: acts I would hire opening acts.

1504
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 3: That are shooters.

1505
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 4: I call them shooters because they go out and make

1506
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 4: sure that audience is tightened up and in they place

1507
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 4: and go on no.

1508
01:09:54,439 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: Smoke yop yeah assassiny and he.

1509
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: Would be man.

1510
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 4: I got a dude named Malik asked from Florida. He

1511
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 4: you know, you'll no smoke with this dude. He come

1512
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 4: out there, he is, he fast, and he's funny and

1513
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 4: he raw and he's gonna be.

1514
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 3: People be like, yeah, I'm good man, never mind.

1515
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 4: And so by the time I come on stage, everybody

1516
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 4: is pretty much there to understand that I'm here to

1517
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 4: tell you some jokes and perform for you like a

1518
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 4: grown up, and you're gonna sit in your chair, you're

1519
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 4: gonna be quiet.

1520
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 5: That that's a flipping box cars question.

1521
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 9: I just I wanted to know because it is a

1522
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 9: fictional story, and you said it was interesting to listen

1523
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 9: to you earlier in this conversation talk about the lack

1524
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 9: of men in your life. So number one, I was

1525
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 9: curious because even though it's fictional, it seems like it

1526
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 9: is a lot of your grandfather and baby boys, right, yeah, yeah,

1527
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 9: And I was just curious how you got all of

1528
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 9: that because you didn't know him, and it was it's

1529
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 9: really from your mother. And then also since you and

1530
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 9: answer this for me too, as a man who was

1531
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 9: the man in your life, because said, when we look

1532
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 9: at you when we talk to you, you sound like

1533
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 9: such a well rounded man in so many ways.

1534
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 5: To have so many women in your life, you.

1535
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, yeah, you know, I think that that's really

1536
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 3: the thing.

1537
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 4: I kind of really feel it was a lot of

1538
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 4: kind of osmosis in a number of ways. You know,

1539
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 4: you know, because my my my mother and my uncle

1540
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 4: would tell me the stories of my grandfather and then

1541
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 4: you start to emulate I think, you know, other people's

1542
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 4: fathers and the neighborhood.

1543
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 3: You know, we were just kind of talking about that.

1544
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 4: When you see these young folks out here that kind

1545
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: of grow up and everybody kind of like you know,

1546
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 4: on the Draco's and everybody got they passed down and

1547
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 4: they want to be gangsters. You know, you kind of

1548
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 4: see that when we grew up, our men in our

1549
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 4: neighborhood was people that was fathers. They were the ones

1550
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 4: that was there. They was like taking kids to the.

1551
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 3: Baseball field and you had to say yes, sir to.

1552
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 4: Him, and you know you didn't call you ain't call

1553
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 4: your daddy by your daddy friend by his first name.

1554
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 3: Like is they know people about Donell now you know

1555
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1556
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 4: They don't even they don't call it man mister Norton,

1557
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 4: and they you know, you you literally believe in the

1558
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 4: world where these kind of these kind of uh you know,

1559
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 4: archaetypes don't really exist. So for me, I think that

1560
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 4: that's really you know, one of the things that I

1561
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 4: was kind of like, you know, kind of like spinning

1562
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 4: the story from is like this idea that I like

1563
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 4: to wear suits, this idea that I like to be

1564
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 4: respected and treat people with respect, that I do think

1565
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 4: that I got a responsibility to others, you know, like

1566
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 4: I recognize that, and somehow, you know, my mother would say,

1567
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 4: that's who my grandfather was, Like he would do all

1568
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 4: these things. He makes sure that even though he was

1569
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 4: you know, in the underworld and he was a gambler

1570
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 4: and a hustler and a bootlegger, but he kind of

1571
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 4: did all these things because that was really what was

1572
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 4: available to him.

1573
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 3: You know at the time, you know, it's not.

1574
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 5: True, Like wait a minute, what's not true about baby boys,

1575
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 5: because that's.

1576
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: All us all that stuff is in there.

1577
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 4: The restaurant owner, he had the restaurant, he'd go and

1578
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 4: take care of the people out in the field.

1579
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 3: I say he was the first dude with a food

1580
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: truck that.

1581
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 4: Would be in my mind, like because he would he

1582
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 4: would take his restaurant, he'd make sandwiches and he'd go

1583
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 4: out to the fields and then people would pay a

1584
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 4: quarter for a sandwich and some water and he'd like

1585
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 4: make sure he eat and he he burned back out.

1586
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 4: That was that was all cash moves that he would do,

1587
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 4: like his and you know those kind of things, and

1588
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 4: so uh, you know, but he was also like a

1589
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 4: you know, extreme risk taker, which you know in the

1590
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 4: book you find out like he took big risks and

1591
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 4: you know these sometimes they don't go your way, you know,

1592
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 4: But that's that's the that's the life of any any

1593
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 4: of us that you try to go out and you

1594
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 4: stick stick your neck out for your own ideology, right,

1595
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 4: you recognize that at some point in time he might

1596
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 4: not go the way you think, and then you gotta

1597
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 4: you gotta deal with that.

1598
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 3: Those circumstances consequences.

1599
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

1600
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 3: Uh.

1601
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 7: I want to ask you mentioned in earlier some conversations

1602
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 7: about your team and kind of deciding which projects to

1603
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 7: pick the team that you have.

1604
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 6: Now, how long did it take to assemble them?

1605
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 7: I guess, and like who are who are like kind

1606
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 7: of your core people, you know, your manager.

1607
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I been really blessed. I've been really blessed man.

1608
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 4: I mean my core group of people with my guys

1609
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 4: that I met in college, man, like my my my

1610
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 4: manager and my partner, you know, my Command production company

1611
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 4: is called A Bird and a Bear. That's me and

1612
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 4: my partner, Eric Rohan. He's my manager and my business partner.

1613
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 4: We called him Swanny Swan you know from the Warriors

1614
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 4: from back into the La So yeah, we called him

1615
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 4: Swan back in the day. And so and I'm SETI Bear.

1616
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 4: So we're Bird and a Bear. So that's the name

1617
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 4: of O production company. But we've been together since again

1618
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 4: my college days. My tour manager and you know, creative

1619
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 4: tour consultant he was, he was I went to junior

1620
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 4: high school with him.

1621
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 3: That's Kelvin Bland. So he a guy that been with.

1622
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 4: Me my whole career like me, like kind of come

1623
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 4: up and just you know, and he started to learn

1624
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 4: how to do lighting and learn how to make my

1625
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 4: shows more interesting and and you know, and those were

1626
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 4: the kind of things he got interested in and booking

1627
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 4: me and and so, uh that's it. And then I've

1628
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 4: been you know with my agency and my lawyers were

1629
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 4: probably a long time too, like from early on when

1630
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 4: I got my first deals. Uh you know, so I'm

1631
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 4: starting to make some changes there.

1632
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 3: But well then you know, for the most part, my

1633
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: team is.

1634
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 4: Solid and I got a new publicist, not too maybe

1635
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 4: about three years ago. So but they've been great too.

1636
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 4: But I know they came through a great recommendation and

1637
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,759
Speaker 4: so it's the same the same guy that does Eddie Murphy.

1638
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 3: He's my guy right now. So he's dope though.

1639
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was an avid watcher of your

1640
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: your Millionaire days? Is game show hosting? Like is that

1641
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: as fun as it seems? Or like do you have

1642
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 2: any other future plans for you know, I actually enjoyed it.

1643
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 4: You know, there was a thing about doing you know

1644
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 4: a millionaire where you you are. You know that people

1645
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 4: were coming on here and they they love these game

1646
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 4: shows and they really want to win, and it's a

1647
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 4: lot of fun to them.

1648
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 3: It's very arduous.

1649
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 4: Because you have to do you know, maybe you know,

1650
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 4: five to six shows in a day, like you shoot

1651
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 4: a lot, you know. We it's a very aggressive you

1652
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 4: know because we and that was the biggest thing about it.

1653
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 3: But for me, it allowed me to live in New.

1654
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 4: York for like three months. So it was great because

1655
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 4: it was a totally different experience. I you know, I

1656
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 4: was able to come and live in the city and

1657
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 4: be there. So the only reason I didn't come back

1658
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 4: and do the second season is that they the next

1659
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 4: season is that they moved it to Connecticut, way up

1660
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 4: in Connecticut.

1661
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's that's not for me. Guys.

1662
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: It was like they was near Connecticut.

1663
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 4: They moved it to Connecticut. They don't know to cut

1664
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 4: the budget or make it a little.

1665
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 5: Like Maury was there, Jerry was there.

1666
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew for a second.

1667
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: Tyler was there for a second, like he had a

1668
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: ESPN ESPN.

1669
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was like that.

1670
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: And it was very you know, very small town field,

1671
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 4: very outside the loop, you know. And you had to

1672
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: be there three to four months. And I was just like, nah,

1673
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 4: you know, no, no, no. If you living in New

1674
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 4: York doing that, then that's fun because you in the city,

1675
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: you get to pop off. You you finish your day

1676
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 4: and then you go and and we would shoot like

1677
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 4: Monday through Thursday, so I would have Friday's awful lot

1678
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 4: of Time game show. Yeah, I'm not gonna be stuck

1679
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 4: in Bristol. You know, it's not gonna be my move.

1680
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 7: Like I want to before we go with your barbecue man,

1681
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 7: you and Anthony Anderson, Yeah, what do you do?

1682
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 6: You like cook a lot?

1683
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 3: What's just no, we just got the rubs right now.

1684
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 3: So we the sauces are coming though, and we we

1685
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 3: will because you know, Anthony's diabetic, so we got and

1686
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 3: make sure we're not gonna be.

1687
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 4: Over over the top with all our you know, sugars

1688
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:08,759
Speaker 4: and all that stuff.

1689
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 3: But the idea really came from us. You know.

1690
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 4: We we all golf together, meet Anthony, George Lopez, Don Cheeto.

1691
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 3: Chris Spencer, Jesus Christ group.

1692
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 4: We all travel d l and we'll travel and go

1693
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 4: and then Anthony and I would often be the ones

1694
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 4: doing the cooking, grilling, you know, cooking and making the

1695
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 4: fool for everybody because we rent a house and hanging

1696
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 4: be a fun time man.

1697
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 3: So but you know, I grill a little bit and

1698
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 3: cook a little bit.

1699
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 4: But what we really loved about this space is that

1700
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 4: everybody was, you know, trying to do liquors and tequilas

1701
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 4: and all that, and what we wanted to do was

1702
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 4: use our celebrity for something we thought that really was

1703
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 4: like uplifting for the community and really authentic to who

1704
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 4: we were in the sense that barbecuing and grilling and

1705
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 4: getting together is just as black as they come, and

1706
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 4: even more so American as it comes. Like it's a

1707
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 4: this is where people fellowship. We I throw the meat

1708
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 4: on you bring the tato salad. You somebody bring the

1709
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 4: mac and chee, and.

1710
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 3: We got a meal and we're gonna play cards.

1711
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 4: And we're gonna laugh, Drake, and we was like, yo,

1712
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 4: we can capture this as a brand. If we can

1713
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 4: capture that essence, that's what we really want to do.

1714
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,799
Speaker 4: And that's what AC Barbecue about more than anything. We

1715
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,480
Speaker 4: we actually feature more pit masters than we grill ourselves.

1716
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 4: So we really go around and find like people that

1717
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 4: really like we're like, pull up, like that's the kind

1718
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 4: of thing. We love the fact that you you really

1719
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 4: love it, like you know, like you throw a cool

1720
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 4: barbecue at your crib or got a season, you know,

1721
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 4: and that's it. We come through pull up and like,

1722
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 4: let's talk about what you're cooking. Let's talk about the

1723
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 4: you know, the relationship you have to why you start

1724
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 4: cooking and in the stories.

1725
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 3: And then that's what we do. And then we you know,

1726
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 3: as AC Barbecue.

1727
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 4: We out telling that story along with you know, introducing

1728
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 4: our products and uh, you know, we got in like

1729
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 4: twenty seven hundred walmarts right now, we got lows coming,

1730
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 4: we got home depot coming. We're doing tools and we

1731
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 4: got spachelors.

1732
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: And tongs and all that coming. We got, we got

1733
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: restaurants coming. We are here. We are here doing it.

1734
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,919
Speaker 4: So we actually got the opportunity to do some restaurants

1735
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 4: on college campuses. So these are things that we all

1736
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 4: got in development. So we're working hard at making sure

1737
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 4: that we out here you know, talking about you know,

1738
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 4: something that really started from you know, our culture really

1739
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 4: is that that idea of taking whatever we got and

1740
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 4: throwing on some hot coals and making a meal out

1741
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 4: of it that goes as far back as slavery and

1742
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 4: beyond on the way the cook so you know, but

1743
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 4: it definitely culturally a thing. But we we we love

1744
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 4: and we know that barbecue is different in different regions.

1745
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 4: And that's why we didn't want to be like, you know,

1746
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 4: you gotta do it our way. We like, we love

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01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 4: the way you do it. We're gonna come and show

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01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 4: and get that love. And so that's what our show

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Speaker 4: is all about too.

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Speaker 2: So man, so uh, mister Kyle's I thank you for

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: coming on our show.

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01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,520
Speaker 1: Man talking to us.

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01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 2: Uh about time, Like we we've been here almost what

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: are we six years now?

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Speaker 5: Almost seven we're not remembering. Yeah, we're not. We're not

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Speaker 5: gonna seven.

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01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 3: Because because you don't love that's a blessing.

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Speaker 5: Man and podcast land, you're damn right, we're old and

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Speaker 5: podcast like.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you, O G. Thank you for everything you're

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01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 9: doing for race, race relations with the neighborhood. Since I

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01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 9: want to say that, because you're doing some introducing, some things,

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 9: letting people know and stuff.

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01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: I appreciate that we use.

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 9: Yes, that's my favorite said, that's what I always talk about.

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01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 5: That's a big deal.

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01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 3: It's so true.

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01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 5: You're talking about the town joke.

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Speaker 3: Y'all.

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Speaker 5: Y'all know, we just we're just people. Don't use washingws

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Speaker 5: your wash class wash class.

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Speaker 8: Watch watch, thank you, any comment, Thank you, che I

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01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 8: love all the stuff you do.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, brother, many birthday man, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 4: m thank you for everything.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 7: You one of my favorite comedians and just one of

1778
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 7: you know, my favorite entertainers period.

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01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,520
Speaker 6: And uh he's got teased.

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01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 7: In high school and everybody told me, I look like you.

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Speaker 1: You have this humor.

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01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 3: He's funny like that.

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01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 9: Yes, oh my god, showcase check it out.

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Speaker 3: A fan.

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Speaker 6: Brother, Just love love everything you do.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we be half of laya pay bill

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Speaker 2: and Birthday Steve and h F Tielo and shout out

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Speaker 2: to Fritt and Jake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and in the entire family at I Heeart.

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Speaker 2: This is another quest Love Supreme extravagans. We'll see you

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01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 2: on the next program, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 12: Man Must Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio.

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