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The 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Financial Choice Act sponsored by Representative Jeff Penciling, who is 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. Basically he 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: would repeal Dodd Frank and replace it. Good morning to you, 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Mr chairman. Can you can you help us elucidate this 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: for for listeners? Uh? What first? Is the biggest problem 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: with Dodd Frank that you want to address? Well, the 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: biggest problem is it has failed. We were told that 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Dodd Frank would lift the economy, and instead we're limping 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: along and about economic Well can I stop you there? 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: That that one's a new one to me. I hadn't 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: ever heard it would lift the economy. I heard it 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: would uh make the make a safer from you should 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: read the legislative history. There were several promises that were made. 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: One would that it would lift the economy, which it 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: clearly has not. As paychecks have stagnated, savings have shrunk. 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: We were told it would help consumers, and instead free 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: checking at banks has been cut in half. We have 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: fift fewer credit card offerings that cost two hundred basis points, 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: more many auto loans or upsive hundred dollars of the 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: list goes on. We were told it would end too 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: big to fell, but instead what we've seen after Dodd 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: frank in the data is indisputable. The big banks have 46 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: gotten bigger, the small banks have gotten fewer. We're having 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: historic volatility in illiquidity in our corporate bond markets, one 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: of the most incredible capital channels we have for our economy. 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: So it hasn't ended too big to fell. It hasn't 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: made our economy more stable. It hasn't made us more prosperous. 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: So yes, what's wrong with it? Everything's wrong with it. UH. 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: It has failed. And so it's time for a new 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: paradigm UH in banking and in capital markets. And so 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: we are offering an alternative that says that we need 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: a banking system that has a whole lot more private 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: capital and a whole lot less federal regulation. It's about 57 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: economic growth for all bank bellouts for none and Dodd 58 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Frank is economic growth for none and bank bailouts for all. 59 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: So it's a eighty degrees removed from the failed Dodd 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: France Act. Can I ask you what your vision of 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: the banking system is? What should banks be in this society? Well, clearly, 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: they are an incredible part of our free enterprise system, 63 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: which is the greatest channel for prosperity UH and material 64 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: happiness that the world has ever known. They have to 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: be a financial intermediary in order to UH channel vital 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: capital into innovation. And again, what we've seen since Frank 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: is that entrepreneurship and small business lending is practically at 68 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: a twenty year load due to the weight, the volume, 69 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: of the complexity, of the uncertainty of the regulatory load. 70 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not a banker, but I want bankers to 71 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: be able to be bankers. Most of America has never 72 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: wanted to occupy Wall Street. They just want to quit 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: bailing it out. So we know there's a safety net 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: with respect to access to the discount window. There's a 75 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: safety net with respect to deposit insurance. So what we're 76 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: saying is looking at historic um market based levels of capital, 77 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: we provide a very simple leverage ratio for banks, and 78 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: they have a choice. They can either stay in the 79 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: current system or with a whole lot more private investor capital, 80 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: they essentially have an equity financed Dodd frank Off ramp 81 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: so that they can go out and invest and lend 82 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and help propel our economy. Now you met with the 83 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: perspective nominee of your party for President, Donald Trump. Is 84 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: he going to endorse your legislation? He's definitely no fan 85 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: of Dodd Frank. Well, I did not ask him to 86 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: endorse the legislation. I simply wanted to brief him on it. 87 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: Um Like a number of Republicans, I've had some disagreements 88 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: with our presumptive nominee on things that he has said 89 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: and done. But I can tell you this much. We 90 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: have a lot of common ground in believing that we've 91 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: got to end taxpayer funded bellouts, which Dodd frank codifies 92 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: in the law. We have to grow this economy in 93 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: One of the major impediments we have is Dodd frank. 94 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: So I don't care to give a blow by blow 95 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: description of the conversation, but I would say that that 96 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: Mr Trump was pleased with what he heard and should 97 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: he become president. I think we have a lot of 98 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: common ground to move forward on. Uh, to help lift 99 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: people out of poverty and reinvigorate middle income people by 100 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: getting rid of Dodd. Frank Sherman Answerling, I know, October 101 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: twenty two is an important day. That's you're fighting Aggies 102 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: play Alabama. You know it has been a little difficult, 103 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: to say the least. Have you had a difficult conversation 104 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: with one James Diamond about your legislation. Have you talked 105 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: to Jamie Diamond about how he would amend Dodd Frank Uh, Well, 106 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I hadn't. I don't quite know what that has to 107 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: do with the Aggie Obama football game. It's just a 108 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: big day. I mean, when you sit down with Jamie Dimon, 109 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Like Alabama Aggie said. Uh, the 110 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: short answer is no. So we have just released the 111 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: outline forty eight hours ago. We expect to have legislative 112 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: texts that will circulate broadly throughout the nation here within 113 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks once we finalize it, and frankly, 114 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: we will look forward to receiving input from all quarters 115 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: of the economy and look for ways um that it 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: can obviously be refined and play with The short answer 117 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: is now down with him on this. I want you 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: on the show with Mr Diamond. If Jamie Diamond could 119 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: get on a stage in London with the Chancellor of 120 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: the Exchequer, he can get on a stage with you 121 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: in testimony. That's all I'm suggesting is that conversation I 122 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: think would be good for the entire nation, whatever their 123 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: political personally. Not enough time with the Chairman. We have 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: to have him back soon to continue to discustion about 125 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: his legislation, because obviously it's going to be important going 126 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: into the next session of Congress. Chairman Hunsterling is the 127 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Republican from College Station in Texas. This has been great 128 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: Haley Barber and Jeff Hunsling, and of course we are balanced. 129 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: We will get others of a different persuasion on through 130 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: the coming days. 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