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Speaker 1: late wife at your new wife's wedding. This is due

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Speaker 1: late wife, though we'll get into it. This is to

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Speaker 1: answer the question when should you move on from a relationship?

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Speaker 1: Comes from No Silver sixty eight fifty five, who says,

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Speaker 1: my first wife passed away twelve years ago, and I

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Speaker 1: I loved her in the past, but it's my past

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Speaker 1: now and I need to live in the present for myself.

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Speaker 1: I found another love. Hooray. I met my girlfriend seven

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Speaker 1: years ago. I love her, and she's always respected that

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Speaker 1: I am a widower. I didn't really name my first

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Speaker 1: doesn't look I want to give my girlfriend the place

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Speaker 1: she deserves. I've had many bad experiences in a grief

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Speaker 1: new relationship. Yeah, yeah, I could being intimidating. I just

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Speaker 2: I think there is a time and I think that

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Speaker 2: it's not an ex this is a late.

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Speaker 1: Wise exactly, you were still in love and it never

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think there is a difference between you know,

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Speaker 1: Now, that same kind of task could be accomplished by

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Speaker 1: a different means. I think so.

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Speaker 1: It is just such a rock and a hard play

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Speaker 1: And uh, I just think there's.

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Speaker 2: Different ways that don't the new relationship because this, I

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Speaker 3: This isn't the same. But I got this from one

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Speaker 3: of the commoners. Would you have your ex wife show

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Speaker 1: That's not the same Honestly, I think that's an irrelevant

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Speaker 2: I think a situation where you found out that your

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Speaker 2: I don't know wife, you realized that you both weren't

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Speaker 2: and then you invited into the wedding. That is that

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Speaker 1: That is yes, that is more where it wasn't actually

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Speaker 1: Sophia on finding it. She found it situations shout out

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Speaker 2: It ain't Pride month, but it's still pride month in harm.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get married in November, and at first

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Speaker 1: I didn't know whether to invite my first wife's family.

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Speaker 2: It's like, Bobby died, he loved you, is this chair?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't married to freaking uncle Bobby. Okay, imagine wait

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Speaker 1: if you have a wedding full of empty chairs in

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Speaker 1: honor of all Oh my god, my father and brother

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Speaker 1: I'm not a spiritual person either, so I don't believe

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Speaker 2: I think that's the issue is because other people in

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Speaker 1: He's like, no, have your wedding with yon shines. Okay.

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Speaker 2: It's been twelve years, and I think it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit especially because it's not even Ope that wants this.

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Speaker 2: Other people are putting this onto him and his wedding.

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Speaker 1: This is not your wedding. Are you running? This is

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Speaker 2: This also not Oh he's wedding to his late wife. True,

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Speaker 2: so he's wedding to a new wife.

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Speaker 1: So gtfo, all of you, all you ghosts, get out

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Speaker 1: of here, all you go. Okay, you're not welcome. Sit up,

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Speaker 1: float away? Do it? You heard him? Just to make

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Speaker 1: my mother shut up, I said that if someone offers

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Speaker 1: There would be seven relatives too many. I knew that

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm just imagining them playing the lame

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Speaker 1: Pretty good, pretty good. This should hire you to sing

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Speaker 1: it with more wedding money they don't have, because I

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Speaker 3: Imagine not knowing that this guy has a dead wife

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Speaker 2: Objecked, this is crazy, This is too muche.

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Speaker 1: This is too much, too much, Opie says, I just

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Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I even find it disrespectful

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Speaker 1: when I'm getting married again, let alone make a whole

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Speaker 1: but I know that there are widowers who have done it,

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Speaker 1: so it does leave me confused. My first wife appears

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Speaker 1: It's not that I'm hiding her identity or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: Bubble says, what this is a wedding or a memorial.

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Speaker 2: They can totally have another ceremony where they like celebrate her,

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Speaker 2: and they probably already had that ceremony.

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Speaker 1: This is a different celebration, Sophia. This is not a wedding.

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Speaker 1: This is a funeral. This is a seven black time event.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's already dressing the parts of everyone's already. We already

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Speaker 2: This is actually it's not a wedding. It is a

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is just getting so ridiculous. I

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Speaker 3: Honestly, a little shout out would be okay.

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Speaker 1: They shout out of my wife, Yeah, shout out one

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Speaker 1: time for the ones on my ex dead what my

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Speaker 1: And honestly, it's hard not to feel guilty when the

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Speaker 1: Really interesting. The wife is like, hey, i'd be fine

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Speaker 1: No, everyone wants all of their relatives theater.

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Speaker 2: So Olivia Grece. Isn't the movie called four wedding in

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Speaker 2: a Funeral?

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Speaker 1: We should name it seven Funerals. I hate that movie

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Speaker 1: Four Weddings at a Funeral. Never seen it.

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Speaker 2: Aw It's basically about this couple cheating with each other

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Speaker 1: Of course, more cheating in rom coms. I'm not here

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Speaker 1: want to have this moment with her. Is that such

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Speaker 1: a bad thing? And quick edit? Please stop recommending me

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We can do We can do a

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Speaker 2: On the one hand, if a person wants to do

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't make sense why you would have to

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Speaker 2: It's been twelve years.

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Speaker 1: He literally said he's moved on and his want is

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Speaker 1: the same way he did with his late wife. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the same thing. The late wife's mom really like, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the late wife's mom who's kind of

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Speaker 2: pushing this, just pulling the strings, pushing this train down

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Speaker 1: So what do we do here? We go to our.

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Speaker 2: Mom's say, hey, mom, I don't want to do that. No,

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Speaker 2: I want to get married to my wife.

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Speaker 1: And that's final, sweet, simple, to the point, to the point. Yes,

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Speaker 1: current judgment, not the Ahle Yeah, agreed. Agreed. First of all,

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Speaker 2: He's not married to her forever. Everyone grieves differently. What

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not? You're right, Sophiel. Why should he find

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get one opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I was always respectful with them, nothing more so, kind

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Speaker 1: beyond that. I won't make a table in honor of anyone. No,

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Speaker 2: No, it's a sad day. You're getting married to someone else, sad.

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Speaker 1: I will only have my brother's favorite beer and wine

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Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, he lost his brother and his father.

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Speaker 1: Everyone can have a different point of view, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: Since my father passed away, it seems strange to me

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Speaker 2: I think that's just an there's an element of love,

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that you don't have to like you're not

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Speaker 1: Like at some point you have to move got to

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Speaker 1: All the widows have picture of the deceased partners. Am

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Speaker 1: Should I still wear my wedding ring like the widows

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Speaker 1: all anymore. But they really tortured me, because that is

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Speaker 1: usually what is expected of a widower, is that we

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Speaker 1: sad shouldn't be that way. We are always expected to

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Speaker 1: But what if I don't want to, What if that's

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Speaker 1: I'm just venting. So sorry if you've made it this far,

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Speaker 1: don't need to apologize, Opie. Be kinder to new wives

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Speaker 1: people who shouldn't be because they're still grieving and sending

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with being single, and don't make an

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Speaker 2: I think op is, you know, it has a right

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Speaker 1: It's so sad and stupid. Yeah, like, hey, grieve how

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Speaker 1: If Op doesn't want to have a tombstone and video

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Speaker 1: one at the ceremony, that is okay. It's also okay.

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Speaker 1: and they're like, so you didn't, you didn't divorce, you

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Speaker 1: There really isn't. It's truly, it is truly to each

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Speaker 1: especially when it disrupts something so personal as a wedding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with someone else, with someone else, your relationship to

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Speaker 1: to him, you know, maybe they do more stuff together

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Speaker 1: beyond ridiculous, beyond ridiculous. Yeah, but ladies and gentlemen, we

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Speaker 1: do have more. What I know, you're a liar. You know,

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Speaker 1: people say it's the true, but I shall simp by

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Speaker 1: That survey fifty twenty one says you didn't have kids

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Speaker 1: together right if not move on from your ex end laws.

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Speaker 1: They are never going to treat your new wife without

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Speaker 1: thinking of their daughter, which means they're always going to

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Speaker 1: name it after her. When you buy a house, you

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Speaker 1: you don't bring it here. You don't honor her memory here,

435
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: like let me, you order a latte but didn't have latte?

436
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: Are in the shape of her face?

437
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: You know that she likes a cappuccino.

438
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: You ordered a late shut off. Julia X nineteen eighty

439
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: four says, isn't it great? How love can give us

440
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: courage to stand up for others when we wouldn't do

441
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: it for ourselves. Great job, all of you. Hope, he says. Thanks.

442
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: An introverted brawler says, till death do his part. You

443
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: fulfilled your vow. Didn't even think about that. Didn't even

444
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: think about that.

445
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: You fulfilled your side of the Boggins.

446
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: Yes and no, oh free. Whatever is beyond the veil

447
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: is beyond your understanding. Go live the life you have

448
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: left indeper job. Yeah, Mike, Mike, beyond the veil? Do

449
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: we go? No contact with the Oh, yes, I think so.

450
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: Late wives. I think so.

451
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're relevant. I think they're relevant afore.

452
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it sounds terrible, but you are. Actually Yeah,

453
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: it would be again, very different if they had this

454
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: close relationship.

455
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 2: He was like, I never had a close relationship with them,

456
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: and now they're hounding me about my relationship.

457
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: Cut them off. I text them a few times a month,

458
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: and now they want to completely change my wedding. Yeah,

459
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: you're out, get at it, He strikes in your route. Goodbye,

460
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: But we got one more story, lads, gentlemen, what did

461
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: you freaking think this was a joke? You thought this

462
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: was a one one story kind of deal. I just

463
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: want to make my mother shut up.

464
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: My husband left me and our baby for another woman.

465
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: What do I do? Get another baby and another woman? Yeah,

466
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: preferably together.

467
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: And this is to answer the question of when should

468
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: you move on from a relationship. So Better Manner seventy

469
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: two five says We've been married for three years. I'm thirty,

470
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: he's thirty four. I had a baby. Six weeks ago.

471
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: After giving birth, my husband came cold and distant. I

472
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: thought that he needed time to adjust to the new normal,

473
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: but turns out he was actually planning to leave us.

474
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh God.

475
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago he said to me that it's not

476
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: working out anymore and he doesn't want to be married

477
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: to me. The news broke my heart. I kept asking

478
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: him why he was doing this to our family, and

479
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: his response was.

480
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: I can't pretend anymore. Well, just impro yeah, just act yeah.

481
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: He took all of his clothes and left two days after.

482
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: I just had this gut feeling that he was seeing

483
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: someone else, so I got into his email and found

484
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: hotel reservations. He brought her on a vacation when I

485
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: thought he was on a business trip.

486
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh searched her.

487
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: Name on Facebook and saw him in the background of

488
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: her pictures. Turns out this had been going on for

489
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: a year. I'm so hurt dealing with this and taking

490
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: care of our newborn baby. I've been crying all day

491
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: for the past two weeks and being delusional thinking he

492
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: will come back to us when he realizes he made

493
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 2: a mistake. I texted him when I found out about

494
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: the other woman, and he ignored me. Then hours later

495
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: asked how our son was doing, so I blocked him.

496
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

497
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: I've been feeling so lost. I have no appetite. I

498
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: haven't been eating. As a result, my milk supply is

499
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: really low. I don't know what to do anymore. And

500
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: there are some relevant comments and an update.

501
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: Sad, sad, what dude, the cheating on the pregnant on

502
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: the pregnant.

503
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well on the they just had a baby, So

504
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: he was cheating on the pregnant wife and left her

505
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: right when she had the baby.

506
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: Dude, think.

507
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: Worse timing, worse for sure, worse he could have left

508
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: her before the baby was.

509
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, at least you would have time to prepare

510
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: to have this child. I mean, obviously both are horrible,

511
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: but at least one scenario, she has time to prep and.

512
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, Riley, because it's like, Okay,

513
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: maybe he does. He does the house more help than

514
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: not existing during the pregnancy. But but I think time

515
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: to prepare is I think it is the because now

516
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: you are facing a life without the father being right

517
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: there as we would imagine it, like, oh, yeah, let's

518
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: live in the same house and like all the stuff,

519
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: a together home, non broken home or whatever. Yeah, which

520
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: one is better before the babies?

521
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Horrible?

522
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: Horrible?

523
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: But there's some relevant comments.

524
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm all ears comments.

525
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: Dear Parsnip says, do you have family or friends who

526
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: can help support you? I know you don't feel ready,

527
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: but you need legal advice as to your entitlements. You

528
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: need him to pay child support at the very least.

529
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: And Opie says, my parents have been really supportive. And

530
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: then on if she's able to change the locks at

531
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: the house, Opie says, don't think I'm legally allowed to

532
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: change the locks.

533
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: I feel like you are. Why wouldn't you be? There

534
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: might be some eviction laws in the realm of squatting.

535
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: Laws might be update.

536
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: This morning, my husband came back and this is.

537
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: Nine days nine days.

538
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: Wow, this morning, my husband came back, saying he made

539
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: a mistake leaving his family and wanted to.

540
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Work things out. WHOA no, no, too late, you locked out.

541
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: These past weeks have been so rough. I've cried myself

542
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: to sleep many nights, all while taking care of a baby.

543
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm still hurting and feel even worse now that he's back.

544
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: Coming back doesn't erase all the emotional stress he caused me.

545
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 2: He left me and our baby when we needed him

546
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: the most. I'm so low. Austin confused, and there are

547
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: some more relean comments and another update. Bougiebe says, I

548
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: wonder if she even knew he was married and or

549
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: had a pregnant wife slash newborn baby. I bet she

550
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: recently found out.

551
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: Just my guest, so true he got kicked out from

552
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: the affair partner, Oh, he says, I think she knew.

553
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: He told me he left her. I don't believe him.

554
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 2: I actually sent her a message. I'm currently waiting on

555
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: a response. Pretty Petty says you need to speak with

556
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: a lawyer because him being at the house instead of

557
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: you may work against you in the divorce. If it matters,

558
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: and Opie said, I asked him to leave, and he refused,

559
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: so I left instead. I spoke to an attorney and

560
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: they said I can't stop him from staying in our home. Opie,

561
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: questioning if her husband was having a mental breakdown or not, says,

562
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: if that's the case, he was having a mental breakdown

563
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: even before I got pregnant. He was having an affair

564
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: before I even got pregnant, and it all unfolded when

565
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: I gave And there is an update and some transcripts

566
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: of texts.

567
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: Then the next day, the next time, this is heating up, Sophia.

568
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: Heating up texts with a fair partner and I. This

569
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: confirms he's a liar and he's been lying to both

570
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: of us whoa My previous post is very vague, so

571
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: I thought i'd provide more detail. When my husband came

572
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: back yesterday, he apologized and said it was a huge mistake.

573
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: He admitted he wasn't thinking straight and would do anything

574
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: to make things right between us. He wants to be

575
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: here for my son and I and repeatedly asked what

576
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: he needs to do to make things right. I told

577
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: him I don't want to see him right now and

578
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: that it would be best if he left, but he

579
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: refused and kept begging to stay, saying he was sorry

580
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: and calling himself an idiot who doesn't deserve me. I

581
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: asked why he did this to us, and he admitted

582
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: he wasn't thinking clearly and said nothing could justify his

583
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: horrible actions.

584
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: But he's a liar.

585
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: He's a liar. Don't take it back. And there are

586
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: some transcripts from the other woman NLP.

587
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: A Who's who? Who's who? Who's who? Okay you be

588
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: other woman? Okay, other women?

589
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: You both look like women.

590
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's me. I don't use messenger, so thought

591
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: it would be better to text you for starters for

592
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: Dakton told me that y'all were separated and he'd start

593
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: the divorce process. I feel so stupid now believing him.

594
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: How long were you all seeing each other?

595
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: And did you know about our son all this time?

596
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: I met him a year ago out of Starbucks, gasp,

597
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: where he paid for my coffee. The moment marked the

598
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: beginning of our relationship. A few months ago, I discovered

599
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: about the baby and decided to break things off. However,

600
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: he insisted that it didn't mean anything and kept expressing

601
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: his desire to be with the baby. Didn't mean anything.

602
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: Baby didn't mean He's like, no, you don't understand the baby.

603
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: Maybe's nothing. It's just a baby.

604
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: It's just a baby. It's just a sack of bones.

605
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: It's not even born yet, and it's small. He moved

606
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: in with me weeks ago until this morning he woke

607
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: up and said going back.

608
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: He told me weeks ago, the same time he moved

609
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: in with you, that it wasn't working with us anymore,

610
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: and he left me and are four week old.

611
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: OMG, I'm so sorry. I didn't know. I wouldn't let

612
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: him move in with me had I known.

613
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: You don't need to apologize you didn't know exclamation point.

614
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: I was waiting for that. I'm stuck in a lease

615
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: I can't afford by myself because he con missed me

616
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: to get this apartment for us, only to bail on me.

617
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: How old are you twenty five? Please feel free to

618
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: ask me anything you want to know. Were you ever separated?

619
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: We were never separated and lived together till a few

620
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: weeks after I get birth. Did he tell you why

621
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: we separated?

622
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: He didn't say much. It was very brief. All he

623
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: mentioned was things weren't working between you two and something

624
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: about growing apart when I found out you were pregnant.

625
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: He said, you were trying to trap him with the baby.

626
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 2: Oh try, I was planned, actually, and it was his

627
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: idea to begin with. It's clear as day he's a

628
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: pathological liar.

629
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: Is he back at your house or is that also

630
00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: one of his.

631
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 2: She came back, but we're not getting back together.

632
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: Good for you. He's an a whole. For the record,

633
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm done with him too.

634
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: Scene Yeah, easy and crazy that neither of them knew. Yeah,

635
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: and another besties. They can raise this child together. Bound

636
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: off bestees. Sometimes you meet friends in weird places.

637
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: That's true.

638
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: Friendships aren't expected, but sometimes the hair deserved.

639
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: Yes. Bound off.

640
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: The comments to finish this story off. How did Opie

641
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: feel after talking with the other woman? Opie says, thank you.

642
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: I tried my best up the understanding and not get upset.

643
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: This woman owes me nothing. I can't be mad at her.

644
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: And Opie on if the other woman knew about the

645
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: baby she was with the husband for a year before

646
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: Opie found out. Opie says, she knew, But my guess

647
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: is she really loved him and didn't care. Regardless, this

648
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: is all on him. He was lying to both of us.

649
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: I think she just wanted confirmation since we both know

650
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: he lies about everything. If she chooses to take him back,

651
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: that's on her. And that, my friends, is the end

652
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 2: of the still right.

653
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just a classic case of an absolute

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Speaker 1: scum bag place of a meg. Luckily they got in

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Speaker 1: touch and were able to kind of like figure out

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Speaker 1: the truth together, because imagine they they put it together,

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Speaker 1: they hadn't or maybe even one of them didn't want

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Speaker 1: to talk to the other, and they weren't able to

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Speaker 1: piece together the full story from that classic place of clues,

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Speaker 1: he could have possibly strung at least one of them along. Indeed, Bill, indeed,

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Speaker 1: he was still trying to have his case. He was

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Speaker 1: still he was like, no, you don't understand.

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Speaker 2: The baby's an important I love you, dude, it's my

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Speaker 2: apartment together.

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Speaker 1: What was the question of this.

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Speaker 2: The question of this story do you walk away? When

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Speaker 2: do you walk away.

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Speaker 1: From a relationship? And I think the answer is now, yesterday? Yesterday?

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Speaker 1: I think the answer is a while ago, a million

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Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah. I feel like in this case, when

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Speaker 1: it when a very easy kind of like lying in

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Speaker 1: the sand. Is if someone does this and is like

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Speaker 1: lying together. First off, the cheating already, but the fact

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Speaker 1: that he was lying and saying things about his own child,

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Speaker 1: like easy, easy, easy, clear cut run, don't worry about Andy,

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Speaker 1: don't don't try to go to counseling or anything. It's

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Speaker 1: just not worth it. Maybe get some therapy for yourself

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Speaker 1: to like work through, uh, everything that's going on and

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Speaker 1: the divorce and separation.

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Speaker 2: You're not worth it to try to stay together with

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Speaker 2: this mean not worth it. Yucky yucky man, the stinky

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Speaker 2: stinky man.

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Speaker 1: You know what, the smelliest, the smelliest, the smelliest