1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Hey y'all, once again, welcome back to the Official Yellowstone 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Podcast presented by Win Las Vegas. It's Jefferson White here. 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: I am really excited about this next episode. As some 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: of you might know, we had a bunch of the 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: cast here to record. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: A couple weeks ago. The Win hosted us all. 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: And organized an incredible dinner at their new supper club, Delilah. 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I had ever even been to a 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: supper club before, and now I call every restaurant I 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: go to a supper club. It was spectacular. We had 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Kelly Riley and Jen Landing there for the dinner. Kelsey 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: couldn't join us unfortunately, because she's the busiest woman in Hollywood. 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: She was filming out of state. But we have them 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: all here with us now on this podcast, digging into 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: their work on Yellowstone. How all of these characters play 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: vastly different roles and really helped to define the tone 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: of the show. I feel incredibly lucky today to be 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: joined in the studio by Kelly Riley. You know Kelly 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Riley for her many incredible performances in films and television, 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: but most recently as Beth Dunton on Yellowstone. Kelly, thank 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: you so much for being here. 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: Pleasure you're doing, You're killing it. 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You've you've really I would say 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: that my entire career I've benefited immensely from low expectations. 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: I always everybody always expects me to be bad at stuff, 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: and that's a great place to start from. Right only 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: ways up, only ways up, exactly. So let's just assume 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: that I'm going to be terrible at this and we'll 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: go from there. 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: So just pleasantly surprised. 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, he didn't mess up that bad. 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: Every time I get on a horse, it's been four 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: years now, and still every time I get on a horse, 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: everybody expects me to fuck up, so the bar. 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: Is very low. Will you just for for folks who've 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: gotten to know you? 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Three yellostone, Will you just talked briefly about your life 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: before Yellowstone, your career before Yellowstone, everything up until we 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: got to know you was Beth Dunton. 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: Oh wow, well. 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: That's a yeah. 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: You can go as long or as short as you 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: want there. 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 5: Well, obviously I'm not American, so I grew up in 46 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 5: South London, England. I left school at sixteen, but I 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: had two wonderful drama teachers who took me to theater 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 5: and gave me plays to read, and it just became 49 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 5: a passion of my playwrights and writing and drama and 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: acting and went to theater and just ate up theater. 51 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: And then before I knew. 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: It, I, by the grace of God, I have no 53 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: idea how I managed to do it. 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: I became an actor. And that was twenty something years ago. 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so my first my career started in the theater 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 5: in London, and I feel like that's where I really 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 5: cut my teeth and learned from the greatest actors. All 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: theater character actors, you know, stayed that was their bread 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 5: and butter. They go from play to play to play, 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 5: and I got some. I had some incredible experiences and 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: roles and got to work with great best British directors. 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 5: And then I realized I was poor. It's not really 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 5: a lifestyle if you want to like have a life. 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 5: And also I was playing all these tragic heroines, you know, 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 5: as Desdemona and Miss Julie, and it was just like 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: I couldn't sustain life and play all these these these 67 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 5: tragic characters every day. 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: So I was like Okay, I think there's another. 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: World going on on TV and film and maybe I 70 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 5: need to get a sniff of that, and so yeah, 71 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 5: that sort of began my career in TV and film. 72 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: But I never ever ever imagined. And that's the joy 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 5: of our job, right We don't ever know where we're 74 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 5: going to be from one literally month to the next. 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: We are gypsies in the best sense of the word. 76 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: And it's been such an honor to sort of land 77 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 5: in Montana, though with a bunch of other reprobates, telling 78 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: a story about America, and it's I sometimes do have 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: to pinch myself that I'm part of it, and it's 80 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 5: it's been my favorite, one of my favorite jobs I've 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 5: ever had. 82 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: Is that? 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 6: All right? 84 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: That was fantastic, Thank you so much. One of the 85 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: very first things you mentioned when you talked about your 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: background as an actor is playwrights is is the text 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: is the script. And we're very lucky on Yellowstone. It's 88 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: very rare that you have one writer who effectively writes 89 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: every episode of a show. 90 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 7: You know. 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: That's much closer to the theater model. There's a writer 92 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: who writes a script, you know, And so we have 93 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: from the beginning obviously had Taylor, who's written every episode 94 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: of the show. So will you just talk a little 95 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: bit about your experience of first reading the script, of 96 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: first sort of coming to the words. 97 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 5: Well, when I first read the pilot for episode one, 98 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 5: season one, I literally had that sort of gut reaction, 99 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 5: you know, when you read a script and you don't. 100 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 5: You're like, maybe I can see myself doing it, maybe 101 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 5: I can't. I always have this idea if there's another 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 5: actor in your head that you think could play the 103 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: part better than you, you probably shouldn't do it, or 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: maybe you need to do it. Maybe you know, maybe 105 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: it's okay. But there are some that literally take hold 106 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 5: of you in a way that is bigger than it 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: about being an acting job. It's there is some sort 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: of a feeling of I need, I need to play 109 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 5: this character. I don't know why, but I felt that 110 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 5: with Beth. I'd never I had never read a character 111 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 5: quite like her. I was excited and frightened by her 112 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 5: in equal measure when I first read her some of 113 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: her lines and for scenes, and I just just sort 114 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 5: of lean in and was intrigued that a man would 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 5: write a woman that I a deeply flawed woman who 116 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 5: he wrote as a hero. 117 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: So you mentioned that this is a script and a 118 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: character written by a man, but really responding to the 119 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: way that Taylor wrote Beth a woman. Will you talk 120 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: a little bit about that dynamic as it played out, 121 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: translating the script from the page to the screen as 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: it played out, sort of being surrounded by men, Beth 123 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: finds herself often in a men's world, a man's world, 124 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: navigating spaces where she's the only woman. 125 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: Will you talk about that experience? 126 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: A little Beth was raised by a men. 127 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: I mean, she had her mother until she was I 128 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: think eleven, but then it was her and her brothers 129 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 5: and her father. So yeah, she was I don't know 130 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: if she was raised as a man, but she she 131 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 5: certainly learned from them, from her father specifically, I think. 132 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: And yeah, it's very common for women to be on 133 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: a film set surrounded by men. I think that's changing. 134 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 5: So it wasn't an abstract world. What's that like, only 135 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 5: being surrounded by men? That's most actresses would say that's 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: more common than not. But yeah, I didn't ever look 137 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: at Beth as like there's this way of thinking that 138 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 5: actresses are looking for characters that are strong, right, because 139 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: we're always trying to find these characters that we can 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 5: relate to and. 141 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: Not specifically role models. 142 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 5: But there's something about the character that we can see empowered, 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 5: not just the girlfriend, not just the thankless role that 144 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 5: hasn't got any anything to her. 145 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: And I. 146 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: Was more curious about more just the more complex character. 147 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 5: It wasn't about had to be a role model or a 148 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: character that I could look up to and admire. I mean, 149 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: there's things to admire about Beth. There's also things that 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: are questionable, right, But you don't ever think that with 151 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: a male character. You're never reading a male character and going, oh, 152 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 5: he's a strong male character. I don't think there's they 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: have ever been said strong male character. But you get 154 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 5: that all the time, strong female character, strong female role 155 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: or And I what I enjoyed about Beth was her 156 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: irreverence to some of that stereotyping. And I responded to 157 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 5: it just artistically personally, and I think a lot of 158 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: women have responded to her in that way too. So 159 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's a sort of feels like 160 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: a bit of an uncharted territory. 161 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: And part of what you identified there is these contradictions, right, 162 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Like the first thing you said is she she's hurt, 163 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: she's sort of complicated, And yeah, I guess when I 164 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: you're totally right that I it's it's an oversimplification to 165 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: imagine to to describe her as strong, or to describe 166 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: her as a destructive force or in her own words, 167 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, a tornado she describes herself. I think of 168 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: the damage that she does, the sort of chaos that 169 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: she sews, but she is also herself so hurt, and 170 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: there's that contradiction sort of at her very core, this 171 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: hurt person who hurts. People talk about that a little 172 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: bit about that duality, because I think that's something you 173 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: do so well, is allowing her to have a full 174 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: life on both sides of that spectrum. 175 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 5: Well, Taylor doesn't let me hold back. If I tried 176 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 5: to soften her in any way in those moments, he 177 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 5: would pull me aside and ask me what the hell 178 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 5: I was doing. It's very clear what my instructions are, 179 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 5: and within that, it's like pushing the boundaries quite to 180 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 5: an extreme level that you see the truth of something 181 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 5: you know, and if you teeter on being safe sometimes 182 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 5: you don't really get the full experience of what he's 183 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: going for, and I think he does play with that 184 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: idea of like, you know, can she is she vulgar? 185 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 5: Does she speak in a way that you don't like 186 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 5: or that you do like? I mean, she's she's a 187 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 5: very polarizing character. And for me that it's exciting because 188 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: you don't want everyone to it's not about ticking boxes, 189 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 5: but it is about complicated, interesting, three dimensional the whole gamut, 190 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 5: dark and light, wats and all, you know, messy, and 191 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 5: there's a little bit of a mess to Beth that 192 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 5: I'm intrigued, intrigued to in I'm intrigued by. 193 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: And then also, you know, it's also big and small. 194 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: You talked about pushing it to the extreme, being sort 195 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: of understanding the assignment and knowing that to a certain 196 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: extent it's your job to take the stakes as high as. 197 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 2: You can be. 198 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: Doesn't do much small, she goes. She goes as hard 199 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: as she needs to go to accomplish her objective, you know, 200 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: to get what she wants. And that, for me, that's 201 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: what characterizes your performance is your ability to, you know, 202 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: to run. 203 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: The gamut and explore that entire spectrum. 204 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 5: So we don't know, we do a season of a show, 205 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 5: and I've done seasons of the show before and they've 206 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 5: never not got picked up or whatever. But now we've 207 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: been playing these characters for four years, they become part 208 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 5: I don't know about you. Do you feel like that 209 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 5: with Jimmy? Do you feel like a loyalty to him, 210 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 5: a protectiveness towards him? 211 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: Like? 212 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 213 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 214 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: And over time, more and more, you know, over time, 215 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I find more and more ways as 216 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: we explore more shades of these characters, we find characters, 217 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: we find more ways in which we align with them, 218 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: because because looking at you, speaking to you, obviously you 219 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: and Beth are different in a. 220 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Lot of ways. 221 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: But over time, I think those two things that are 222 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: difficult to reconcile get a little closer together. 223 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, was it Meryl Streep she talks about acting, is 224 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 5: that you think it's not about playing something that is 225 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 5: outside of you. 226 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 3: You think that it's. 227 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 5: Something that you don't recognize in yourself and you're reaching for, 228 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: you're trying to navigate and figure out and become. But 229 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 5: the study is actually when you start to really inhabit 230 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 5: and become the character, you understand where your similarities actually are. 231 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 5: And like you said about serving story, like serving the writer. 232 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 5: That's our job, right as actors, Like we're serving a 233 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 5: greater story. 234 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: So you're just one cog in a machine. 235 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 5: Really, it's not just about you know, it's not the 236 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 5: Jimmy Show or the best show or the rip show 237 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 5: or the it's probably the cost of show. 238 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: It's definitely not the Jimmy Show. There's a spectrum you're describing. 239 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: There, well, maybe the spin off. 240 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 5: Right. 241 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Another thing that I find so fascinating about that you 242 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: just said, you know, these archetypes, these archetypes live in Beth. 243 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: But the great gift of getting to do this for 244 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: four years, for forty hours, is that it's not any 245 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: one archetype. It's not any one sort of a mythical character. 246 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: I'm not one myself. Like I feel like I have 247 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 5: a whole gamut of different women in me exactly, And 248 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 5: I think and for you too, and I think like 249 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 5: what we have, what we're capable of, is endless as 250 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 5: people like I mean, I leaned into Beth of some 251 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 5: of her strength and some of her way. She owns 252 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 5: a room, right, I don't necessarily share that quality. In fact, 253 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 5: I don't share it all. But when I play her 254 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 5: for a while. She starts, I start to understand the 255 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 5: strength in me that can do that. And I've limited 256 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 5: myself to thinking that I can't do that just by 257 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: my brain, because when I play her, I can do it. 258 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: So it's already in me. So you're basically just touching. 259 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: We're all capable. 260 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 5: And I am not to quote such great actors, but 261 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: I am a nerd about acting. And Daniel de Lewis is, 262 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 5: like he does talk about how we are massively we 263 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 5: have no idea what we are capable of as human beings, 264 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 5: and how him playing all these characters over the years, 265 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: he's understood that we're all there's that pool of unconsciousness 266 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 5: that we can all dip in and out of and 267 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 5: to use those things in your life. So it's not 268 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 5: just about being an actor, playing a role and serving 269 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 5: a story that you can actually use, like people write 270 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 5: to me and say thank you for shure it. Like 271 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 5: I take on some of Beth Dut' when I have 272 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 5: to deal with the asshole work right, and I use 273 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: Beth as an inspiration and I become a bit of 274 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 5: Beth to get me through that day. 275 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: And so in a way, they're talking about the same thing. 276 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 5: It's like taking on an aspect or an element of 277 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 5: something that is you think is outside of yourself, and 278 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 5: then you're you're by internalizing it, you become it. 279 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's an amazing observation. 280 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: And it's not surprising that people see themselves in Beth's strength, 281 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: in Beth's sort of power. Right, she describes herself as 282 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: a tornado in Beth's kind of you know, elemental rage. 283 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: What's it been like for you to also, especially as 284 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: as the years go on, especially pushing into seasons three 285 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: and four, get to explore the sort of opposite side 286 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: of the spectrum, the softness. 287 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: I mean, it's trickled you know, it's like trickled in 288 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 5: and I had to earn it, I think like she has. 289 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: The first season it was just all brutality and strength 290 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: and fierceness, which I love. But then season two you 291 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 5: started to sort of he started to give me the 292 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 5: odd moment that was you just know that they're like 293 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 5: Cole said earlier, that there is a beating heart in 294 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 5: there who does. 295 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: Who can be sensitive. 296 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: And one of the things that I love most about 297 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 5: her when she's in her softer moments is what she 298 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: does for others time and time again, and I look 299 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: about what her actions are. There is always something that 300 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: she's doing for someone that she loves, and very little 301 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: is it about doing anything for herself or pleasing herself. 302 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: She's not after power, she's not after. 303 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: Money, she's not after anything other than I don't actually 304 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: know what she's after. I think in those you know, 305 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: those moments when she's talking about peace. 306 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: With her father, like how did you find how do 307 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: you find peace? What does that mean? 308 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: Because she's searching for it and she can't find it, 309 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 5: and it's just I love those questions post in the 310 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 5: middle of a Western TV show. 311 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, she's really I mean, in a lot 312 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: of ways, she's destroying herself for the sake of somebody else. 313 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: She's putting herself through hell for the sake of her father. 314 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: And I think that that, as you described earlier, we 315 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: serve the writer, we sort of serve a greater purpose. 316 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: And in the pilot of Yellowstone, Lee says to Casey 317 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: or Jamie maybe he says, we don't choose the way. Yeah, 318 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: we don't choose the way A little brother something like that. 319 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: That's true. 320 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: I believe that, Yeah, And we don't we are, I think, 321 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: at our best, not trying to control anything but surrendous, Yes, 322 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: surrendering to these this sort of elemental force that is Beth, 323 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: or the part of yourself that is Beth, Like allowing 324 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: the part of yourself that is Beth to take the wheel. 325 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah for a while. 326 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And Beth herself is Beth. Herself is often 327 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: turning the wheel over to to her father, to these 328 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: people to whom she feels loyalty to Rip, starting in 329 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: season four, to Carter, She's putting herself into incredibly difficult, challenging, 330 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: often brutal circumstances for the sake of this greater purpose, 331 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: for the sake of her belief system, which seems largely 332 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: structured around protecting. Like she says over and over again, 333 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: once my dad's gone, you know you can have the ranch. 334 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: Fuck it. 335 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll sell it to the four seasons and swim 336 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 5: laps in their pool. Said. I think that's changing. I 337 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 5: think that speaks to the fact that what it symbolizes 338 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: is not any part of what she wants. She doesn't, 339 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 5: but I think she's the more times she's there, and 340 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: obviously with the relationship now with Rip, I think that 341 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 5: she's finding where she belongs in this world. I mean, 342 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 5: she is made of those mountains. 343 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: You know so many people may have noticed over the 344 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: course of listening to this podcast, is that your voice 345 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: in Beth Dutton's voice pretty difful when you talk about 346 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: that experience. 347 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: Is that disorienting? 348 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: It was funny. So I don't know if you remember. 349 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: I mean you and I actually haven't had a scene 350 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 5: together which we need to deal. 351 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: With your lips of guy's ears. God is Taylor sheared 352 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: it in this case. 353 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: But for the first season. 354 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 5: And you wouldn't know this because necessarily we didn't actually 355 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 5: have any interaction on set because we were never on 356 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 5: set at the same time. But I hardly spoke to 357 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 5: anybody because I couldn't. 358 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: I didn't. 359 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 5: It's not about breaking character. I also you hear those 360 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 5: stories about actors staying in their dialect off camera, and 361 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 5: I admire them, but I would feel like an idiot, 362 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 5: like speaking to Tim who does my hair, or the 363 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 5: lighting guy, or you know, my mum calls me on 364 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: the phone and staying with my American accent. 365 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: I just couldn't. I couldn't make peace of that. That's 366 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: just bananas. 367 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 5: But so it was just easier for me to just 368 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: not talk and not let anyone know me for about 369 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 5: two seasons, and it was just all It wasn't about 370 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 5: getting people to be convinced that I could play Beth 371 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 5: or that I was Beth or whatever, but it was 372 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: more about me staying in the space, because it does 373 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 5: become a it becomes a pretty sacred space, right when 374 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 5: you're in that level of work that you want to 375 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 5: deliver and you want to like protect and you want 376 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 5: to get right for the audience. 377 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: I didn't. 378 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 5: I just needed to be convinced of it myself. So anyway, dialect, Yes, 379 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 5: I work with a dialect. 380 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: Longest answer. 381 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: You had to. 382 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Protect your process, you know, by taking a vow of silence. 383 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: It was a bit of a vow. 384 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 5: I think everyone just thought I was, like, you know, 385 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 5: unfriendly or whatever, but actually I just had the weight 386 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 5: on my shoulders of this beast and I presure how. 387 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: He writes her. 388 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 5: I mean, he gives me big, great chunks of dialogue 389 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 5: that are really hard to say, even in my accent. 390 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 5: So me getting my mouth around some of that, you know, 391 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 5: that muscularity of all those rs. 392 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it's hard, but I mean it's an incredible transformation. 393 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,239 Speaker 3: Because it helps. I love it. 394 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 5: I love it because I also drop it my voice 395 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 5: as well. So I found myself. I was what I 396 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 5: was listening to to JD and he kind of does. 397 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 3: That kind of gruff thing. 398 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was like, ah, yeah, that's I'll do that. 399 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: I'll steal that. 400 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: Is there something I mean, is there stuff that's been 401 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: uh that's been especially fun for you? We talked about 402 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: getting to explore different shades of Beth over the course 403 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: of four years. Is there stuff that's particularly fun for you? 404 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: Are there moments that have been particularly fun on set? 405 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: I have. 406 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 3: I have a lot of fun playing Beth, so massive 407 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 3: amounts of fun. 408 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I do spend a lot of time apologizing 409 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: in advance to my fellow actors and I'm about to crucify, 410 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: but they know what they're getting into, like so then 411 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 5: they're getting paid for it, so it's fine. But the 412 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: crew becomes our family, right. Our crew are just incredible 413 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 5: and they are always, you know, the best humored, hard 414 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: working family and coming to work in Montana, like I'd 415 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: have moments where you're literally setting up a shot and 416 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 5: the sun is rising and I've got a steaming cup 417 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: of coffee and someone's just making a joke and it 418 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 5: just feels I. 419 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 3: Just feel so lucky that I get to be part 420 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: of this. 421 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 5: And I don't even mean like the success of the show, 422 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: that's almost like an added on bonus, but just the 423 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 5: actual doing it is a pleasure. 424 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: When I'm not being tortured about some of those other scenes. 425 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 5: I'm always I'm always grateful when there's a scene where 426 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: I don't have anything to say or it's just a 427 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 5: one liner, because then I feel like I can relax. 428 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: And that's one of the most parton Now. 429 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: I love being in Montana as well. That's part of 430 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 5: the that's really a win. I would not want to 431 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: be on a back lot in California. 432 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so immersive experience of making the show does 433 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the work for us to a certain extent. 434 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: You know that coffee steaming. You don't have to pretend 435 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: you're cold. For the most part, you're cold. Yeah, for 436 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: the most part of you're in mon Data. The weather 437 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: is incredibly immersive. 438 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 5: Well, either roasting and everything's on fire around us, and 439 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 5: then suddenly we're freezing and in the middle of winter. 440 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 5: It changes so dramatically. But I feel like everyone feels 441 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 5: like that. Everyone is like happy to be there. There's 442 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 5: something about being that close to the elements and that 443 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 5: close to nature, and you know, you wake up it. 444 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: I remember being set one day and they're like, oh, 445 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 5: did you hear about the grizzly that was like seen 446 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 5: on set yesterday. 447 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: Col Houser, col Houser, his name's Cole Hauser. 448 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 5: And driving to work and seeing the bald eagles circling 449 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 5: above you, like, that's that's pretty something. 450 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: It really is. 451 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, an incredible gift, and I feel incredibly grateful to 452 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: have had the opportunity to have this conversation with you. 453 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: So thank you so so so much. 454 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: It's nice to meet you. 455 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jefferson White, I played Jimmy. 456 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: I'm the don't worry about it. 457 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm the dumb guy. 458 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: Brooklyn. 459 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: Then, yeah, hey, don't worry about it. 460 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm the dumb guy. I play the fucking dumb guy. 461 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: I always I alway, you know, I think there's no 462 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: way to imagine Jimmy and Beth meeting that would leave, 463 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, where Jimmy would walk away feeling Okay. 464 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I'm sorry. 465 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm kind of grateful they've never bumped into each other, 466 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: because I don't think that goes well for Jimmy. 467 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that moment. 468 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: I come back, I come back from the six as 469 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: I'm finally a confident to strong cowboy in Beth just 470 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: shreds me with a line, thank you again, so so 471 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: so much for being here. 472 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: It's it's such a treat. 473 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: Thank you. 474 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 475 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: Kelly is an incredible actor, but she's also just obviously 476 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: a very genuine good person. We're gonna take a breath here, 477 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: and when we come back, we're going to dive right 478 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: in with my dear friend Jen Landon, who plays Teeter. 479 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: Folks. 480 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: I feel incredibly lucky today to have Jen landed in 481 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: the studio. Jin Landen plays Teeter on Yellowstone. Jen's an 482 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: incredible actor, an incredible cowboy. I've been learning alongside Jen 483 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: for years now. Jen, thank you so so much for 484 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: being here. 485 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be here. Jeff, it's really a thrill. 486 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: Could you just talk a little longer about how excited 487 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: you want to me? 488 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 4: This is well. I mean, I feel like we've been 489 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: together for a while now because we're in Texas working 490 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 4: on this cutting event. 491 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: So prior to coming into the wind to record this podcast. 492 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: Jen and I have been staying together at a B 493 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: and B in Weatherford, Texas, Yeah, preparing for a celebrity 494 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: charity cutting event, Cutting is Up. 495 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: Could you describe cutting for us a little bit? 496 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: I mean yes, I wanted to kind of start with 497 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: just like sharing an Airbnb being sort of the event 498 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: because not only have I never lived with you before, 499 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: I haven't lived with anyone in about twenty five years. 500 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: So I feel like getting to see our the way 501 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: we like. We're both very courteous and trying not to 502 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: infringe on the other person, but also we're both very 503 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 4: we're very slightly messy. 504 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would describe it as both as curious, as 505 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: a courteous but message. Yeah, courteous but MESSI I have 506 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: three roommates all the time. Yeah, I live in New 507 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: York City, so for me, this is many fewer people 508 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: than I usually live with. 509 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 7: Jen. 510 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: Just for the folks at home, will you just take 511 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: a second to describe your life prior to Yellowstone. So 512 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: everything that happened before folks out there got to know 513 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: you was teeter on Yellowstone. 514 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: There was nothing. It was just sort of like the 515 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: pre Big Bang moment. Are you serious? 516 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: Is this a serious Yeah, as you could take as 517 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: long as you want to or as short as you 518 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: want to. 519 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: Gosh, prior to Yellowstone, I was having a lot less 520 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 4: fun though I was still acting. I started out in theater. 521 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 4: I was on a soap for many, many, many years 522 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: and said many, many, many words, and then hopped around 523 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: on some shows, and that's it. I have no life 524 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: outside of work, which is what you can gather from 525 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: that answer, and part. 526 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: Of it as you describe your background, I guess part 527 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: of what occurs to me is that you have You've 528 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: lived a lot of lives in a short time, and 529 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: you've learned a lot of different sort of crafts and 530 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: skills in a short time, because, especially as an actor, 531 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: you have a very varied and diverse skill set as 532 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: an actor, So you started out in theater, Yeah, you 533 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: worked in daytime. Yeah, you've worked in very very cool 534 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: television and movies. Yeah. 535 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: I was an associate artistic director of an experimental theater 536 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: company for a while. We were a movement based company 537 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 4: that worked often with classical texts. I definitely have that 538 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: side of me, I feel like, as do you. 539 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 7: Yeah. 540 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we both we both share diverse backgrounds as actors, 541 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: and then we both landed thankfully on Yellowstone and we're 542 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: tossed in this world that we didn't have as much 543 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: experience with. So for both of us, from the beginning, 544 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: we've been working very hard to come to understand this world, 545 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: to develop the skills that it takes to survive in 546 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: this world. So will you talk a little bit about 547 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: the process of getting up on a horse of stepping 548 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: into teeter? 549 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, when I auditioned for the show, 550 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 4: they had reached out to my team and asked if 551 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: I had horse riding experience, and I informed them my 552 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 4: team that I had ridden horses as a child, but 553 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 4: not since then, and they told casting that I was 554 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 4: a professional horseback writer. So coming in I actually had 555 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 4: a lot of horse fear because I did grow up 556 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 4: with horses and my mom had a really, really bad 557 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: fall and was dragged around an arena with her foot 558 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 4: stuck in a stirrup and she really shouldn't have survived that, 559 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: and I was still quite young, but that was the 560 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 4: end of horse back riding, so I didn't get to 561 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 4: kind of reclaim that until I joined the show. So 562 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 4: it was really it was really healing on one level, 563 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 4: and then the other thing is I feel like I 564 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: feel like this is how surfers must feel when they 565 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 4: engage with a natural force like the wave, which is 566 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 4: I do feel like the difference between a good day 567 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 4: and a great day sometimes is getting on a horse. 568 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: That sort of being in that rhythm, which is this 569 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: natural rhythm of that animal, reminds me of the animal 570 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: that I am, and the natural rhythm that my body 571 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 4: would like to be in that I rarely allow it 572 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: to be in. 573 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: You've also a minute ago you described, you know, feeling 574 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: some fear because of a very difficult experience you had 575 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: at a young age with horses. But it's interesting because 576 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: I think of Teeter the character as being in some 577 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: ways characterized by a fearlessness or an incredible sort of 578 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: even if she is afraid, an incredible courage to run 579 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: at whatever scares her. 580 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's I do feel like Teeter's courage gives me courage. 581 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 4: That's something that we all experience as actors. Playing different parts, 582 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: we sort of take on their mental state. But also 583 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: as an actor, we really get a false sense of confidence. 584 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, for example, I'm under the impression that I'm 585 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: an incredibly good fighter who can beat up an entire 586 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: biker gang because j Rod choreographed a fight in which 587 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: I win. But I cannot do that, but I think 588 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: I can. 589 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: And what an incredible gift I guess to get to 590 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: sort of I don't know how you think of it, 591 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: but put on a mask or sort of step into 592 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: the boots of character who has a different set of skills, 593 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: a different set of limitations, who has it has a 594 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: very different sort of background than you. 595 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, very much. 596 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, talk a. 597 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Little bit about the experience of coming in because Teeter, 598 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: you and Teter are very different in a lot of ways. 599 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: Or you know, Teeter is a certain part of you. 600 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: You know, Teter is a. 601 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 4: Kind of have a very different mask. 602 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 603 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you have the same primal core and you 604 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: both express it in different ways. Talk to me about 605 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Teter comes into the bunk house as a woman surrounded 606 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: by men and is the most aggressive sort of character 607 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: in that environment. Teeter hits on everyone. Teter's sort of 608 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: going after everyone. Talk to me about that experience. 609 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to take away from the 610 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: fact that she does zero in on Colby pretty quickly, though. Yeah, 611 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 4: she's interested in all things. You know, Am I allowed 612 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: to cuss on here? 613 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? 614 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's like, you know, does she want to 615 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: you know, eat it or does she want to fuck it? 616 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: Or does she need some sleep? 617 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 7: You know? 618 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: But I had talked to Taylor, and you know, it's 619 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 4: like she's a you know, not that I don't want 620 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 4: to open up a whole bag of worms, but she 621 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: is has a she's a dude in the traditional idea 622 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: of what that is, right, and that is something that 623 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: I'm actually really comfortable with, uh kind of leaning into 624 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: that more aggressive sort of archetype in some way. 625 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's fascinating because Beth, you know, you talk 626 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: about traditionally masculine qualities or traditionally feminine qualities, right, Beth 627 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: is also an incredibly aggressive sort of forward attack mode aggressor, 628 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: and Teeter is in some ways too. 629 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: But then their tactics are so different. 630 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: Their tactics diverge sort of from they so much. 631 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: I yeah, Beth is like, you know, I've you and 632 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: I had been talking a little bit before the podcast 633 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 4: about Teeter being a strong character, and you know, we 634 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: were agreeing that Teeter is strong, a strong female, but 635 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: she's nowhere near as strong as Beth, you know, but 636 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: Beth is so for me watching it so iconically female 637 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 4: in this really wonderful way. You know that I as 638 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: a person really like watching as well, because it's very powerful, 639 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: but it's very feminine and again in this very traditional way. Yeah. 640 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Beth sort of leverages her femininity as a as 641 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: a weapon. Yeah, she uses it as a weapon to 642 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: get what she wants from her enemies, and Teeter takes 643 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: a very different tactic. Teeter kind of leverages her masculinity 644 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,239 Speaker 1: or her like tradition as you said, you know, in 645 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: some ways she's a dude, and she like she'll punch 646 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: you in the face before she'll. 647 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, she's not talking it out. It's I don't 648 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 4: think that that has worked well for her in the past. No, though, 649 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: I've had a fantasy of a scene that's never been 650 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: written in which Teeter just launches into a monologue one 651 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 4: night around the poker table, and it's like maybe a 652 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 4: forty five second monologue, and she gets really emotional and 653 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: nobody knows what she's just revealed. 654 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: Because that's played as a joke throughout the show. There's 655 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: so many sort of funny moments of Teeter saying something 656 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: just utterly indecipherable, everybody being confused. Talk to me about that, 657 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: because you you know, as an actor, you're not just 658 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: saying something indecipherable. You're saying something. You're trying to communicate something. 659 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: So talk to me about the experience of Teeter's accent. 660 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so's it's written. Taylor's wrote it phonetically, which was fantastic. 661 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: I remember when I saw the sides on first glance, 662 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 4: I was like, what. 663 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: So it's spelled out. The sounds are spelled. 664 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 4: The sounds are totally spelled out. And even though you know, 665 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 4: just when I like kind of did that first thing 666 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: where you're like, how long is this audition? You know, 667 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 4: it was like, one of these languages is not English? 668 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 3: I was. 669 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 4: I was tickled by the fact that she always made 670 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 4: sense to me. I always knew exactly what she was saying, 671 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: and that was not the case for a lot of 672 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 4: people who would read it, but that being able to 673 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 4: hold on to it being sounded out was so liberating 674 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: for me, and I I'm just amazed that, I mean, 675 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 4: Taylor writes at a clip. He can also write gibberish 676 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 4: or you know phonetic English at a clip. I mean 677 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 4: it was. It's sort of shocking how well he writes that. 678 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: Really remarkable, and it's so sort of different than your 679 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, folks at home. Folks at home 680 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: might just notice the difference between your, your natural speaking voice, yes, 681 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: and Teeter's very thick accent. 682 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. People people are surprised by that. They're also surprised 683 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 4: when they somebody has been speaking to me for you know, 684 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: sometimes it's an hour and then they find out that 685 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 4: I'm Teeter because I don't visually register to them as Teeter. 686 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 4: And they then ask me how long it takes for 687 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: makeup to put the prosthetics on my face every morning, 688 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: and I have to inform them that that there are 689 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 4: no prosthetics on my face, that that is just my face. 690 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: And I think that speaks to how sort of transformative 691 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: that that that it is. It's a physical transformation in 692 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: some ways, but it's also there is such a sort 693 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: of powerful, as you described it, fairal energy that it 694 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: sort of transforms your presence. 695 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 696 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 4: I do move through the world slightly differently when I'm 697 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 4: when I'm in her skin. People very close to me 698 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 4: know to sit some like it. 699 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: Some don't horses respond to it because I feel like 700 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: Teeter is an incredibly experienced rider. 701 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 4: I feel like when I take on Teeter's energy in 702 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 4: life on a horse, I get stuck in this weird 703 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 4: in between where I am trying to like, you know, 704 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: just be that like Dominatrix on that horse or like that, 705 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 4: like yeah, that dom on the horse that I feel 706 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 4: like Teeter is. But the horse is smart and is 707 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 4: picking up my bullshit, so then it just throws everything off. 708 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: The horse just gets anxious and grumpy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm 709 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 4: trying to work on soft receptivity on the horse. My 710 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 4: first experience wasn't on horse on the show was I 711 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 4: remember when I read I think it was episode three 712 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: or something for me or three h three. 713 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: Uh. 714 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 4: Teeter separates a charlet a white cow from a bunch 715 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 4: of black house and I, well, I'll be in a 716 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 4: big arena and a bunch of very trained black cows 717 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 4: will run by, and then there will be a big gap, 718 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 4: and I'll jump in front of a white cow and 719 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 4: stop it. And then I show up and there's like 720 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 4: a shoot, and there's just a bunch of sort of 721 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 4: anxious cows running back and forth, It's like, no, You're 722 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 4: going to just jump in front of one of those 723 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 4: and stop them for real. And I watched a lot 724 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 4: of Temple grand In videos and tried to bring my 725 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 4: best temple to work that day. 726 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: Part of the experience of filming Yellowstone is all of 727 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: us gathering in a small town in Montana. Yes, for 728 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: months at a time, away from our families, away from 729 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: our other communities. Yes. Will you talk a little bit 730 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: about what keeps you busy while we're out in Montana? 731 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: What keeps you saying? What sort of fills you up? 732 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: The experience of being out there authentically? You know, Yeah, 733 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: working on the ranch is a very sort of authentic experience, 734 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: and so is just living out in Montana. 735 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: What's that like for you? 736 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 4: I sort of thrive in that environment because Montana to 737 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 4: me feels like the most wild state in many ways 738 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 4: in a nature sense. And part of way, on the 739 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 4: flip side, I like New York City so much is 740 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 4: because New York is sort of wild as well, So 741 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 4: I think I'm drawn to that wildness. But getting in 742 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 4: that nature as much as possible is so grounding. And 743 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 4: then I felt like we did sort of a wonderful 744 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 4: job of creating kind of community, and we both we 745 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 4: all knew that it could get challenging at times, especially 746 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 4: with COVID, so we kind of had those group activities 747 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 4: and those movie nights, and I feel like we did 748 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 4: a really great job of creating a family there. 749 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not so different than living in a bunk house. 750 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: You know, we're out there, It's really not. They're kind 751 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: of in the middle of nowhere and where each other's 752 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: where each other's family, where each other's community. We're coworkers, 753 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: but we're also just you know, because we've we've had 754 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do this for a long time. We also, yeah, 755 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: really are each other's sort of source of strength and 756 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: solidarity and strange in a strange environment. 757 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 4: Totally. And I mean I did live on top of 758 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 4: a horse barn. 759 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah literally literally, Yeah, Jen, thank you, thank you. 760 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: Let's say it together, Jen, Jeff no mo Jen, Jen, 761 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: thank you so so so much for being here, for 762 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: doing this, for taking the time to talk with me. 763 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: You and I head off immediately after this to go, 764 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: uh get our asses kick some more. 765 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: Learning's learning a little. 766 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 4: More about I have to just say Lindy Burch's name. 767 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 4: Everyone look her up. 768 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: Jen, thank you so much for being here. Thank you 769 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time. What a treat, what 770 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: a joy to spend this time with my dear friend. 771 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough. 772 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 4: All Right, I'll see it. I'll see you later and 773 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 4: i'll see it tomorrow in Texas. 774 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 2: I'll see it tomorrow in Texas. 775 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much fun Jen is. What 776 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: a kind, thoughtful, generous patient, frinchy ish. She really, she 777 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: really takes care of all of us on set, and 778 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm so so grateful for her. I need to step 779 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: aside for a second. When we come back, I'm going 780 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: to be joined remotely by none other than Monica Dutton 781 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: Kelsey aswell. All Right, today we're talking to Kelsey aswell, 782 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: who you know as Monica on Yellowstone from the very beginning. 783 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: Kelsey is obviously. 784 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: An incredible actor who I've been lucky enough to call 785 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: my friend for four years now, and we're gonna chat 786 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: about everything Yellowstone. So Kelsey, first of all, thank you 787 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: so so much for being here. Thank you for doing this. 788 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful. 789 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 7: Oh, you're so welcome. You're the perfect person to. 790 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 6: Be doing this. 791 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 7: I'm really glad it's you. 792 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm talking to thank you so much. 793 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 1: I will I will endeavor to prove you wrong over 794 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: the course of the next forty odd minutes. So for 795 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: people who don't know you, for folks that don't know you, 796 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: can you just talk a little bit about your background, 797 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: how you wound up on Yellowstone, sort of everything, everything 798 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: about you before we started to get to know you 799 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: four years ago. 800 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, of course. Oh goodness, Well, I guess it really 801 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 7: started with Taylor. I worked with him on on wind 802 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:20,479 Speaker 7: River and yeah, he really I mean, he's made such 803 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 7: an impression on me on my on my career obviously, 804 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 7: but also my life and and uh and so yeah, 805 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 7: when he asked me or sent me the script for Yellowstone, 806 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 7: it was kind of a no brainer. I'd follow him anywhere. 807 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: So will you talk at all about your experience with Monica? 808 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: Is that is the same? Are there are there shades 809 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: of Kelsey in Monica? Are there shades of Monica and Kelsey? 810 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: Will you talk about that a little bit? 811 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 7: Yeah? I think so. I think probably same for Jimmy, right, 812 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 7: especially as the seasons go on. I think that Taylor 813 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 7: put a little bit of of us and our characters 814 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 7: for sure. R But no, Yeah, I think authenticity is 815 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 7: really important. I think, you know, one of the joys 816 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 7: of shooting the show is being able to also shoot 817 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 7: on location. I mean, I feel like Montana is just 818 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 7: such a gift us as actors because we really informs 819 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 7: the world in a way that a sound stage could 820 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 7: never So I'm really glad that he fought for that. 821 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 7: But I yeah, I mean, I I think that I 822 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 7: think that I have I have really learned from Monica. 823 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 7: I think, you know, she's she's she's a survivor and 824 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 7: a mother and and you know someone that she's she's 825 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 7: she's human, you know, she's so yeah, No, I I 826 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 7: have a real Yeah, I have a special place in 827 00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 7: my heart for you know. 828 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 829 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: I spoke to Mo. 830 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 4: I spoke to Mo. 831 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: And one thing that Mo talked about because Moe is 832 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: also such an incredible sort of he carries with him 833 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: so much history. He's such an expert on a lot 834 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: of this stuff. Like, I've learned so much from Mo. 835 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: But something that he emphasized over and over again is 836 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: that he also tries to be a sort of student. 837 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: He tries to always be learning, he tries to stay 838 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: open to the world, and I feel like that's kind 839 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: of what it's like to be an actor. A lot 840 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: of times you're simultaneously pretending to be an expert in something, 841 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: you're also all the time looking around learning from the 842 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: people around you. And on this set particularly, we're lucky 843 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: to be surrounded by you know, some real I wouldn't 844 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: use the phrase elder statesman because they're they're in their prime, 845 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: but the people like Kevin right like, and so Monica, 846 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: especially in season four and season three, starts to have 847 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: more and more interactions with John Dutton, more and more 848 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: sort of of these two kind of families that define her, 849 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: her her loyalties and her sort of her responsibility to 850 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: her life on the reservation, and then also her loyalties 851 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: and her responsibility to Casey, to Casey's family. To take like, 852 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 1: she how do those two families? How does she relate 853 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,240 Speaker 1: to those two families and the responsibilities that she feels 854 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 1: to each of them. 855 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't it wasn't the most welcoming introduction, 856 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 7: but I do think especially last season, she I think 857 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 7: she had this you know, newfound respect for John Sutton 858 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 7: that like maybe maybe they're fighting for the same thing, 859 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 7: although in very different ways. 860 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 6: But yeah, I think she really she really struggles with 861 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 6: She really struggles. 862 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 3: You know, she's. 863 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 7: Fighting for her family, but also, you know, like you said, 864 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 7: she wants to, you know, can Cashy exist having a 865 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 7: foot in both worlds. It's definitely easier said than done. 866 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 1: Over the last four years, Monica, you know, as Casey's 867 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: war kind of comes home, Monica's also been exposed to 868 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: these incredibly difficult, painful, traumatic situations that she has also 869 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: risen to and now, you know, in season four, is 870 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,959 Speaker 1: starting to sort of thrust herself into for the sake 871 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: of protecting her people. But I think one thing that's 872 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: been really amazing is that from the beginning of the show, 873 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: even as you guys are navigating that difficult dramatic content, 874 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 1: there's also this like undercurrent of joy and this undercurrent 875 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: of like love and trust. And so you guys do 876 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: such an amazing job of not a lit wowing this 877 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: relationship or these characters to become only one thing or 878 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: the other, but always having the sort of opposite present 879 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: underneath it, because they would have to in order to 880 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: stay together, right, they would have to in order to 881 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: survive if this shit happened to people. 882 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a it's they. 883 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: Would need to have this love underneath it to keep 884 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: them together, which is just such an amazing gift that. 885 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 2: You guys have. 886 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 7: Oh bless you. No, Yeah, of course, I think you 887 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 7: need to know what it is that you're fighting for, 888 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 7: and sometimes it is kind of hard to get, or 889 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 7: you get you lose that for a moment. So I 890 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 7: think that you know, we've we've got some really like 891 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 7: sweet moments in this season that are just are a 892 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 7: good reminder of what we're fighting for. 893 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, the stuff with the dog, I mean, I'm also 894 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: so excited to see that stuff. I just can't like, 895 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: there's the dog, there's all this sort of joy with 896 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: Tate there because Breckens also sort of huge. 897 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 3: Spoiler Jeff get a dog? 898 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 7: All right? 899 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: The fans demand to know you get a doll? The 900 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: big season four the big season four question, who gets 901 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: a dog? That's what everyone wants to know. Kelsey, again, 902 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: thank you so so so much for chatting with us. 903 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the work you do, and I'll 904 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: talk to you very soon, I hope. 905 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, definitely, thank you so much. 906 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: Bye. I am so thankful to all of you for 907 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: tuning in, So so grateful. I wouldn't be able to 908 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: do this without you, the Yellowstone family, so thank you 909 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: for being here. 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