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Speaker 1: As media.

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Speaker 2: When I was a high school teacher, I taught a

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Speaker 2: whole section on basically psychology, one O one Freud, post Freudians, Maslow, Pavlov,

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Speaker 2: the whole nine. Then we got to the post Freudians

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Speaker 2: and started talking about defense mechanisms. The one I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about today is reaction formation. The best way

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Speaker 2: to explain this was my experience with the World Cup.

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Speaker 2: Never really was into soccer, never understood it, didn't think

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Speaker 2: it was fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm a red blooded American. Soccer is not our sport.

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Speaker 2: But then I thought to myself, the entire planet shuts

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Speaker 2: down and throws a party. I'm saying civil wars have

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Speaker 2: been paused because World Cup was coming. Everybody can't be wrong.

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Speaker 2: That's gotta be the funnest time because the whole planet

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Speaker 2: is enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's me. Maybe me not getting.

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Speaker 2: Into World Cup was just because I'm probably not good

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Speaker 2: at the sport and I feel like I can't be

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Speaker 2: the best at it, and I just don't understand what's happening.

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Speaker 1: So just to be like whatever, it's stupid.

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Speaker 2: The problem's probably you, which is probably why Turning Point

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Speaker 2: needed their own halftime show. You're not principled. You're pouting.

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Speaker 2: You got your arms folded outside of the party because

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Speaker 2: you're mad you're not getting your way. Listen, put on

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Speaker 2: your big boy pants. A hundred of the hottest humans

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Speaker 2: God has ever made our body rolling right now, Grab.

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Speaker 1: A malta itta Tolstone.

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Speaker 2: They're just bananas and come have a good time and

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Speaker 2: stop being stop acting like that.

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Speaker 1: Tap in with.

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Speaker 2: Me reaction formation is a post forty in concept where

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Speaker 2: a person decides, once they got rejected by something, that

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Speaker 2: that something is stupid or that they don't want it anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's like you go to club, you hit on a girl,

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Speaker 2: you want to dance with me. She's like no, You're

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Speaker 2: like whatever, you're ugly, your friend's cuter. Okay, I think

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Speaker 2: you're just madic got rejected. You clearly don't think she's ugly.

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Speaker 2: You're just mad she didn't.

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Speaker 1: Dance with you. You didn't get chose. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's set aside all of the obviousness of racism

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Speaker 2: and segregation that clearly is what happened with this turning

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Speaker 2: point thing. I'm not gonna drag kid Rock because he's

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Speaker 2: been dragged by people who are much better at drag me.

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Speaker 2: Which is really hard for me to admit that there's

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Speaker 2: somebody better at dragging somebody, especially somebody like Kid Rock.

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Speaker 2: We could drag him, you know, his culture, vultuedness, you know,

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Speaker 2: even in his own culture, trying to like tack on

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Speaker 2: to the m andem movement of being somebody from Detroit.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, M's actually from Detroit, Kid Rock

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Speaker 2: is not anyway. I I say this seriously, now that

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Speaker 2: it's all said and done, all the technical problems and all,

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Speaker 2: what was really the problem? Like seriously, I, as a

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Speaker 2: grown man, as a husband, as a father of two daughters,

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Speaker 2: have really had to ask myself a lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of damage I might have done to

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Speaker 2: my daughter's not knowing I did it just being an

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Speaker 2: apy man who has never processed their feelings or emotions.

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Speaker 2: Question I learned to ask myself is what is you

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Speaker 2: really mad about?

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Speaker 1: And why?

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Speaker 2: Why does that matter? Sometimes you may come up with

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Speaker 2: some truthful things. You may have a good point. Other

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Speaker 2: times you might discover that like you're just being a baby,

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Speaker 2: a selfish little baby. So I ask you, turning point Usa,

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Speaker 2: whistling Dixie halftime watchers, what was the problem.

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Speaker 1: Was his show not American enough.

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Speaker 2: I mean Ragathon, like we talked about on the episode this.

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Speaker 1: Week, it is birth in New York.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's got his original influences from Panama and

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Speaker 2: Puerto Rico itself, but it's a new Eurekan thing that

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Speaker 2: has been influenced by hip hop and reggae and salsa

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Speaker 2: and all of that. But it doesn't happen if there

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Speaker 2: is no America. It's as American as jazz, as blues,

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Speaker 2: as folk music, as hip hop as chaw mane. That's

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Speaker 2: from San Francisco, So it's very American, Okay. So was

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Speaker 2: it not wholesome? Was it not Christian? I mean which

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Speaker 2: super Bowl has ever been Christian? And especially when this

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Speaker 2: was getting put together, two of the largest Christian acts

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Speaker 2: in Corey Ashbury is at that boy name and Forrest

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Speaker 2: Frank they said they was gonna do it, met with

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Speaker 2: the Turning Point team and was like, nah, that's not

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Speaker 2: what he was looking for. So your alternative wasn't Christian?

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Speaker 2: You booked a guy named kid Rock who's got lyrics

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Speaker 2: about statutory rate. Was not wholesome? Was there's no family values?

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Speaker 2: There was literally a wedding, bad buddy. There was a wedding.

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Speaker 2: Did y'all see the news that act like somebody actually

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Speaker 2: got married? There were children dancing everywhere. Matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: shout out my homegirl, DJ tips Star her baby girl

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Speaker 2: was one of the dancers.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's freaking amazing, It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It was you thought we were being divisive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you wanted your own party. Nobody said you

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Speaker 2: wasn't welcome. You chose to have your own party. And

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Speaker 2: did you not see the messaging together?

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Speaker 1: We are America.

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Speaker 2: Only thing that drives out haters love only thing more

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Speaker 2: powerful to hate his love. The man names the entire

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Speaker 2: continent to say, listen, we are all one America. You

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Speaker 2: self selected out which one of us is being divisive?

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Speaker 2: Was too political?

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the point of turning point?

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Speaker 2: I thought that was the point. You don't understand the language.

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Speaker 2: You ain't understand Kendrick Lamar either. He was speaking English.

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Speaker 2: Y'all was willing to set that.

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Speaker 1: One out, even though it was English. Who are you

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Speaker 1: really mad at?

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Speaker 2: Because when you knownock down these things, what you're really

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Speaker 2: mad at should really give you pause? You mad them?

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Speaker 2: People ain't white? You're mad. You're not being catered to that.

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Speaker 2: You're not the special little kid to me.

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Speaker 1: Wrapped in all that racism.

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Speaker 2: Is a little boy that's got to give up the

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Speaker 2: remote control to his little brother because it's his turn

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Speaker 2: to play the game now. And now you're pouting because

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Speaker 2: that games stupid. I play my own game. It don't

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Speaker 2: gotta be like that. There was a meme going around

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Speaker 2: the internet that was saying the same people that needed

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Speaker 2: their own needed a separate halftime show, needed they separate

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Speaker 2: drinking fountain? Did Jim Crow at all? You know what

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Speaker 2: the lesson of that is he didn't need your own

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Speaker 2: drinking fountain.

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Speaker 1: It's fine.

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Speaker 2: There was nobody at the door that said you couldn't

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Speaker 2: come in. You decided for yourself. And then what sucked

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Speaker 2: is y'all's party was trash. You were welcome here the

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Speaker 2: whole time. It's just like anything. Act like you got

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Speaker 2: some sense, come in, enjoy yourself, dance offbeat. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: there is a gorgeous tatie standing right over there that

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Speaker 2: would help you shake your hips. There's a Theo over

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Speaker 2: there that would love to show you how to mix

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Speaker 2: these drinks, that would teach you how to play Domino's.

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Speaker 2: We truly have a great time. You just being weird.

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Speaker 2: Stop pouting. Okay, I'm gonna say this. Can't stress this enough.

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Speaker 2: The hottest humans God has ever created or on the

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Speaker 2: other side of that door, just relax, you letting your

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Speaker 2: biggoty ruin the party. And you know what the best

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Speaker 2: part is the audience a won that that whole thing

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Speaker 2: was designed for. He didn't even watch it. He was

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Speaker 2: watching Bad.

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Speaker 1: Buddy tap in with me.

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Speaker 2: Oh and lastly, that song that's uh, the little track

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Speaker 2: Matt made for the episode on Wednesday. That was his

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Speaker 2: first shot at trying to make something Latin. Look, you

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Speaker 2: could download it like he kind of got down with that.

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Speaker 2: I was very proud of him.

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Speaker 1: So you could download it links in the bio you know,

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Speaker 1: well not the bio. The show knows. You understand what I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to say. All right, Bye,