1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Ketty arm Strong and Jackie and 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: now he Armstrong and Eddy. 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: As many of us who are looking at our phones 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: know that the Senate has passed the bill under unanim. 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Have a moment of silence, but I think we should 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: just have a moment television. 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: So that was the victims of Jeffrey Epstein having candlelight 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: vigil there on the steps of the Capitol yesterday when 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: they got the news. I think that the Senate passed 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: it after the House had passed at fourner in twenty 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: eight to one to release the Epstein files, and the 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Senate said good enough for us Senate to the president. 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't even take it up. And they're cheering, 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: and they seem to be like hugging each other's tears 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: in their eyes, legitimately relieved, slash joyful about this. I 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: don't know what they think is about to happen exactly now. 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: The mainstream media crowd like MSNBC is endlessly They played 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: that clip last night there and that's what we all 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: need to remember that this is about the victims it's 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: not about. 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: Politics or Donald Trump, or but it's about the victims. 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Okay, you didn't feel that way for four freaking years 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: when Democrats controlled the House and could have passed this 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: exact same bill. 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Or Donald Trump can release this at any time. 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: So could Joe Biden, but he didn't, and you didn't 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: care about it at all then, So the amount of 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: hypocrisy around this. Of course, Trump was against it passing 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: until Sunday night, and then he was for it passing, 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: and every Republican but one voted to Patsy yesterday. So 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: I don't even. 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: Know what's happening. 35 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: The official talking point on the left is that, yes, 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 3: it was the Mummy who is at fault. Joe Biden 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: should have released That is their new talking point, even 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: though not a single one of them even so much 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: as suggested that maybe that would be a good idea. 40 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: It was all Biden that held it back. It is 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: such enormous hypocrisy. On the other hand, this Jonahs Sarah 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: of the Free Press, the assistant managing editor whatever that means, 43 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: wrote a big piece about reading through tons and tons 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: of the just released like a week ago Epstein emails 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: and around him, and he writes this, why are some 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: of the magna crowds so eager to see the Epstein 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: files the Justice Department supposedly has because they want to know. 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: They demand to know who among Epstein's friends was also 49 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: having sex with underage girls. They want their heads on 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: a platter. Can you blame them? I don't think the 51 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: question is not worth asking. I just suspect that the 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: answer is there or it would have been used already. 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: Since the alleged information that exists has been in both 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: parties hands now for quite a very, quite a long time. 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: It's plenty of opportunity. 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: Unless it's mutually assured destruction. There are guilty perves on 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: both sides. That is a possible explanation of why it's languished. 58 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: Although Washington is the leakiest vessel that's ever sailed, so 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: I can't believe there haven't been, you know, damaging leagues. 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: Right, It's hard to imagine. 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: It defies logic specifically around Trump, which I assume is 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: the animating force behind this whole thing for Democrats is 63 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: they think that there's something that's gonna bring down Trump. 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me only the dust storm that this 65 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: is creating is bad for the Trump administration. Even if 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: that's the only thing they accomplish, it's worth doing. 67 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: But you're gonna tell me there's some damaging piece of 68 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: information in all of this that the Biden administration and 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: Justice Department sat on while Trump was it's going to be, 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, the next president. You could have stopped him 71 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: with any of this, and you just kept it a secret. 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it just defies all logic. 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: Like every movement, though, you've got your activists and then 74 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: you've got your useful I don't want to use the 75 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: term idiots because it's unnecessarily insulting, but you have your 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: activists and those they manipulate, and the activists know they 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: have a pretty good idea that there's nothing on Trump. 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: But this is just in the Trump administration's way, and 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: you hamstring the other party every way you possibly can, 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: and this is a good one. So I think a 81 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: lot of the pros in the MSNBC crowd that's what 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: they're doing. But Jonasara, who I mentioned, wrote read tons 83 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: and tons of these emails, and he's written a piece 84 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: for the Free Press and he says, six years after 85 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for luring teenage girls to services 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 3: in satiable sexual needs. I didn't think there was anything 87 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: about this sordid scandal that could shock me, But I 88 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: was wrong. Over the weekend, I read hundreds of the 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 3: emails to and from Jeffrey Epstein, release to the public, 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: and take a shower when i'd finished. I hope that 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 3: people who wrote them, who will get to in a minute, 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: never live them down. For starters, the vast majority of 93 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: the emails were written after twenty oh eight, which is 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: when Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting soliciting prostitution from an 95 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: underage girl, a far lesser charge than he deserved, after 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: his lawyers browbeat the prosecutors, and he spent thirteen months 97 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: in prison, a term so lenient he was allowed home 98 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: over the weekends. All those friends of his who wrote emails, 99 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: the friends who now say they regret their association with 100 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: him after details of that case were out in the open, 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: they didn't seem to care at the time. 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: Including Larry Summers, obviously president of Harvard, who, years after 103 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: Epstein got caught sex and up underage girls, was emailing 104 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: him saying, Hey, I'm mentoring this economics professor. She's hot 105 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: and I want to have sex with Herty. What do 106 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: you think of this line? I mean, if you haven't 107 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: read those, it's amazing, right, So no, Sarah says, they 108 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: didn't seem to care. That's not quite right. They did 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: care about Epstein. Whenever stories would crop up about Epstein's 110 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: sexual proclivities, as they did from time to time, he 111 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: and his elite friends sent emails back and forth bemoaning 112 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: the unfairness of it all. They strategized about how they 113 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: might deflect attention away for his penchant for young girls 114 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: and direct it instead on his philanthropy, as supposed insider 115 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: knowledge of President Donald Trump's business dealings. The girls they 116 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: barely got a mention, and then he mentions Boris Nikolick, 117 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: a venture capitalist who is Bill Gates chief scientific advisor, 118 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: when a Vanity Fair story came out. 119 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: When will this stop? This is crazy? He wrote? 120 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: When Epstein complained that not one newspaper had the balls 121 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: to question the credibility of Virginia Jeffrey, who said she 122 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: thought she might die a sex slave at the hands 123 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: of Epstein, first blew the whistle on his crimes. Epstein's 124 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: friend Landon Thomas Junior, then a financial journalist at the 125 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: New York Times replied, quote, I might be interested in 126 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: that story. 127 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: Would Andrews people co operate? 128 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: Andrew, of course, is Andrew mount Betton Windsor, formerly known 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: as Prince Andrew, who j'ffree accused of having sex with 130 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: her during the time she was under Epstein's control. He 131 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: clearly did, according to these emails. We'll get to that 132 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: in a minute. Let's see Michael Wolfe, the author groused 133 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: another big prize for the Miami Herald after Julie K. 134 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: Brown when the Hillman Prize, which is a prestigious journalism. 135 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: Prize, for her expose of the sweetheart deal Epstein got 136 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: back in twenty eight and Brown's story ultimately led to 137 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: Epstein's arrest that April in twenty nineteen. Look at the 138 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: judges on this thing, continued Wolfe, who comes across in 139 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: the emails as perhaps Epstein's closest confidant the right thinking establishment. 140 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: To a t. 141 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: Steve Bannon, who was c Seed on that email, chimed in, Yeah, 142 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: the fix is always in. What year was that twenty nineteen? Wow, 143 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: let's see Bannon. Then he talks about there are always 144 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: sex scandals, one sort or another, But the Epstein case 145 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: exists on a whole other level. He was rich and 146 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: well connected, but to this day nobody actually knows where 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 3: as all his money came from. 148 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 2: Your anti Semitic crowd. 149 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: Say it was the Jews, the masade, something is ridiculous. 150 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: But he lacked a college degree but charged his wealthy 151 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: friends millions of dollars for tax advice, constantly surrounded by 152 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: young women, the younger the better, and it was all 153 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: about massages that ended with asexual climaxes. Mister Nasara writes, 154 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: did Epstein's elite friends get the same treatment? 155 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: Is that how he made his money? 156 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: In a memoir that was published after she died earlier 157 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: this year, your free alleged that she was expected to 158 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: service Epstein's friends, including Prince Andrew, as well as him. 159 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: But that's the only name specifically named. But there's still 160 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: many unknowns about Epstein. That's one reason there's such a 161 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: voracious appetite for the story. Another reason, though, is that 162 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: it appears to be yet another example of how the 163 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: rich live by a different set of rules, allowing them 164 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: to do the most heinous things and skate away. 165 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: He quotes f. 166 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: Scott Fitzgerald and the Great Gatsby careless people, the wealthy 167 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: and powerful who thought, who thoughtlessly damaged lives that were 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: meaningless to them. 169 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: To me, I mean, the fact is Steve Bannon being 170 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: c seed email. 171 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean there is a club out there of rich 172 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: and powerful that crosses political lines where the whole you know, 173 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,479 Speaker 1: we're fighting the other side, so hard thing disappears. 174 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's all a show for us. 175 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: And they just live a life of sex, connections, financial 176 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: comfort and everything like that. 177 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: And how does this not make you cynical? 178 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a chumminess to these emails and intimacy even 179 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 3: that suggests just how close Epstein was to his elite buddies. 180 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: Epstein donated more than nine million dollars to Harvard, most 181 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: of it during Larry Summer's five year ten years Harvard's president, 182 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: which ended in six But Summer's emails to Epstein, which 183 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: came well after for his time as Harvard's president, weren't 184 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 3: about money. Epstein appears to have been someone to whom 185 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: he could say anything without fear of rebuke. Then he 186 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: gets into the hitting on his men tee thing and 187 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: getting advice from Epstein about how you reacted well, annoyed, 188 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: shows caring, no whining, show strength. Last week, Summers issued 189 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: a statement saying that his association with Epstein was a 190 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: major error of judgment. That's what they're all saying now. 191 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if you looked into the emails, but 192 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean it gets down to the nitty gritty of 193 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: like Larry Summers sending an email to Epstein saying I 194 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: asked her out for drinks today after the conference and 195 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: she said she was tired. Do you think that was 196 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: just a way to get out of it or do 197 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: you think she was actually tired? 198 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: Should I try it again? Am I pushing too hard? 199 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: He's wanting to sex up this young economist who sees 200 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: him as an older mentor, and he's looking to Jeffrey 201 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Epstein for advice on how to work the thing. Yeah, 202 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: you and he's married currently. Yeah, you should be embarrassed 203 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: by all that. And now he's stepped down from Open AI, 204 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: where he had some sort of role. He's left, like 205 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: every job he has, he ought to be embarrassed. 206 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: Here's Kathy Rumler now Goldman Sachs, top lawyer former White 207 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: House counsel for Barack Obama, has also said she regrets 208 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: her association with Epstein, but in their email exchanges they 209 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: sound like bosom buddies, constantly covetching about their dislike of 210 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. When she describes him as stupid and gross, 211 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: Epstein responds, duh. She asks him for advice when she 212 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: has approached about a big job, he tells her about 213 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: all the big shots he'll be dining with. 214 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: Goldman. 215 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: Sachs has defended Rumler, saying that her relationship with Epstein 216 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: was professional. Her email correspondents show how ludicrous this claim is. 217 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: Landon Thomas, who please recall, was a New York Times 218 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: journalist at the time, emails Epstein to warn him that 219 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: he just spoke to another journalist who is snooping around. 220 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: Thomas was fired by The Times in twenty nineteen because 221 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: he's solicited a thirty thousand dollars contribution to charity from Epstein. 222 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: There are only a few emails between Jelene Maxwell and Epstein, 223 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: but one in particular is a doozy. Even after they 224 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: broke up as a couple, they remained extremely close. When 225 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: he attended high profile events. 226 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: She was his date. 227 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: When he needed young girls, she either found them herself 228 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 3: or commanded one of Epstein's young charges to find a 229 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: girl who could take care of him. In twenty fifteen, 230 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: Geoffrey the victims sued Maxwell for defamation after Maxwell accused 231 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: Jeffrey of lying. In a panic, Maxwell emailed Epstein. She 232 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: tells them she is being told to put out a 233 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: statement that will distance her from him. 234 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: She adds, they need. 235 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: Me to say I was not aware of a massage 236 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: with Andrew in my house. That email took my breath away, 237 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: not because I didn't strongly suspect it to be true, 238 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: because here it was, at last, on a page, an 239 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: admission that what Jeoffrey had long contended that Prince Andrew 240 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: had long denied was true. He was getting massages from 241 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 3: Epstein's victims in Maxwell's home. These were the kind of 242 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: messages that Epstein's victims say often ended with sexual satisfaction 243 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 3: on the part of the men being massaged. Then back 244 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: and forth with Wolfe about the sex stuff, who clearly 245 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: knew about it, On and on. 246 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: There's plenty more we need to get to on this. 247 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: We've got a clip of Trump a decade ago talking 248 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: about Epstein and Bill Clinton that to me means Trump 249 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: must not have had anything he was worried about read 250 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: the world of Epstein. 251 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: That's the way I take it. 252 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: Let me hit you with Joe Nisarah's last paragraph. Epstein's 253 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: correspondence could have tried to stop him, or reported him 254 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: to the authorities, or at least decided to have nothing 255 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: to do with him. Instead, many of them circled the 256 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: wagons protecting a horrific sexual offender. He was rich, well connected, 257 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: and lived a seemingly glamorous life. They preferred his friendship 258 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: to looking straight away at his crimes. It is shameful 259 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 3: and even all these years after the first Epstein revelations, shocking. 260 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: He is Gatsby. Wow, we got a lot more stay with. 261 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Us before we get to something important. The Simpsons killed 262 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: off another long time character Someday night on the new 263 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: episode of The Simpsons, Alice Glick, the church organist who 264 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: shows up in a whole bunch of episodes. My son, 265 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: who could be the world's leading expert on The Simpsons, 266 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: went through all the different episodes for me yesterday that 267 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: she appears in, she's quoted, or shows up or that's wow. Wow. 268 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: He knows that for some reason. 269 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: So apparently Larry Summers, former president of Harvard Secretary of 270 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: the treasurer on all kinds of boards highly involved with 271 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: open AI. He stepped down because of these embarrassing emails 272 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: came out. 273 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: Man, not only are you trying. 274 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: To sex up your the people you're mentoring as a 275 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: like super rich, powerful, well known college professor, You're trying 276 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: to sex up this girl that comes to you for 277 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: mentor advice and you get caught. You're getting your advice 278 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: from freaking Epstein. 279 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable. Anyway. 280 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: So apparently yesterday or the day before, because he's still 281 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: a teaching it college at Harvard, he apologized to his 282 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: Harvard class. 283 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: Some of you will as shame. I have a statement 284 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: be look at stretching my shame with respect to what 285 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: I did communication with mister Emstein, and I've scheduled I'm 286 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: going to step back hard time. 287 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: But but I had to start working to show my 288 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: teaching obligation. 289 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: And so with infinitionally on, we're going to hope forward 290 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: and talking about the material. 291 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: We're going to go forward and talk about the material 292 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: rather than the fact that I would sex up many 293 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: of you in the room. Right now, I'm looking at you, 294 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Louis looking at. In fact, I if email, 295 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: if Epstein wasn't dead, I would email him today saying, 296 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: how do you think I should get her in bed? 297 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: Well, I'm told he took partial responsibility. No, what's that 298 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: the control room is talking to you. Oh, full responsibility. 299 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: He took full responsibility, So it's okay. 300 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: I do feel like the Larry Summers part of this 301 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: has a bit of the Streisand effect going on that 302 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: if he hadn't like made such a big giant public 303 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: show of his contrition, way. 304 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: Fewer people would have heard about it. 305 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Maybe there's just a number of powerful people that are 306 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: involved in these Epstein emails and they haven't come out 307 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: and said. 308 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe I did that. I'm sorry, 309 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm resigning from all my play and things. 310 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but come on, he was way high on the 311 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: salacious scale. I mean, soliciting Epstein's advice on how to 312 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: hit on a mentee. 313 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: As a married dude. That's a good headline. That is 314 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: not cool. 315 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: Wow, And and you're getting your advice from Epstein And 316 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: this is years after Epstein was convicted of being at 317 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: their buds. 318 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, just didn't matter. 319 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: So got a clip coming up it's Trump bringing of 320 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: Epstein to a reporter in twenty fifteen, long before I'd 321 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: even have heard his name. Maybe I don't know which 322 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: I think shows that he must not be worried about 323 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: his relationship with Epstein. 324 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: I think, see what you think. 325 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: And then the three big questions still swirling around this 326 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: whole thing that either will or will not be answered. 327 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: But they are the big questions. 328 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: But Trump from twenty to fifteen bringing up Clinton and Epstein, 329 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: stay tubed boy, Armstrong and Getty ready for the headline 330 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: of the day, hit me, I suggest you put on 331 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: a helmet and buckle your seat belt. 332 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: Headline of the day. 333 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein had a tiny penis shaped like a lemon, 334 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: says victim. This is from the New York Post today. 335 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: Apparently one of the victims. He probably saw in the news. 336 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: All the victims on the Capitol steps, kindlight vigil cheering. 337 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: When the vote went down four hundred and twenty eight 338 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: to one in the House and the Senate just said 339 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: rubber stamped it to release the Epstein files. 340 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: One of the victims did an interview with Substack. 341 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: This is actually kind of interesting, wasn't there another trying 342 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: to remember what sexual per it came out. 343 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: Had a like practically deformed by Weinstein who Weinstein? 344 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: Well, and just recently there is something about the Golden 345 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: State Killer, who's a murdering rapist in the Sacramento area 346 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: in the Bay Area back in the seventies. 347 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: Forget me if. 348 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm wrong on that, but you're right, Weinstein, they said 349 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: that about him too. So sometimes these people are driven 350 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: by you know, they they had an unfortunate physical abnormality 351 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: and it makes them crazy. 352 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, they have overwhelming desires to sexually uh 353 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: you know, dominate someone. 354 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 355 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: This woman, I mean, it doesn't sound like she's trying 356 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: to be reading this interview, doesn't sound like she's trying 357 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: to be you know, silacious for slacious steak sake. She's 358 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: just describing. No, he had like he was practically deformed. 359 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 2: She says. So that's interesting. 360 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: Talking about Jeffrey Epstein and the whole thing in the 361 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: files being released and Trump's going to sign in it 362 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: a lot of day and then the Justice Department has 363 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: thirty days to get the stuff out and holy cow, 364 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: how long will this story dominate Washington d C. 365 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: I thought this was really interesting. 366 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: I watched Mark Halprin, who is one of the more 367 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: fair journalists in my mind that exist out there, and 368 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: his video cast yesterday afternoon, all after all this went down, 369 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: he has three questions that he says remain out there. 370 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm with him on two of them. I'm not sure 371 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: about the third one. But first he played this so 372 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: back in twenty fifteen, this is before Donald Trump even 373 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: announced he was going to run for president the first time, 374 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: when it was still like a long shot really that 375 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: he was ever going to get into politics. 376 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: He spoke at the Seapack. 377 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: Convention and Mark Alprin was there as a journalist at 378 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: the time for Bloomberg and got Donald Trump to stop 379 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: by the tent after he spoke, and Donald Trump brought up, unprovoked, 380 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. And Halprin's belief is that Trump was thinking 381 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: about running, thought his likely opponent was going to be 382 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, which turned out to be right, and that 383 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: he needed to damage the whole Clinton brand and there 384 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton's attachment to Epstein, and so he was 385 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: introducing the topic into the bloodstream of the media or 386 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: trying to way back then, which makes me think that 387 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: you ain't got much to hide. I wouldn't think you'd 388 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: be like trying to bring up the whole Epstein thing 389 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: when nobody had heard about this, and you know, and 390 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: make it a big story if you if you were 391 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: involved in stuff that you wanted kept secret, doesn't that 392 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: mean just make sense on a logical standpoint. But anyway, 393 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: here here's that actual That would be. 394 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: An insane gamble. You knew you were dirty. Yeah, this 395 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: is Trump talking to Halprin back in twenty fifteen. He 396 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: is the question of Jeffrey Epstein in your remarks event 397 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: and quay I think he's got a problem. 398 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 5: Don't think the problem will be I don't know, but 399 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 5: that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it. 400 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 5: Just ask Prince Andrew. Well, he'll tell you about it. 401 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 5: The island was an absolute cesspool. So that he's been 402 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 5: there for many times. Well, I can't say fringe, but 403 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 5: I know friendly. You know them well, you play at 404 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 5: my clubs a lot. I have clubs, and everybody likes you. 405 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: You're saying there's a political problem for her if she 406 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: runs the president. 407 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: It could be a political problem. 408 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: Look, he could be a political problem. Right now, he's 409 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: teflon and right now, maybe not but he could end 410 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 5: up being a political one. 411 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: He wanted to get out there that there's a problem 412 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein and his island. 413 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: Just ask Prince Andrew. So Trump was completely aware. 414 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Of at least the Prince Andrew angle, and probably lots 415 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: of different angles of what was going on in Epstein world. 416 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember what was known in twenty fifteen. 417 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't think any well, I I mean among normal people, 418 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: are among the elite, I mean among the people. 419 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: Anybody really was the Prince Andrew thing out in twenty 420 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: fifteen or was Trump kind of outing it? 421 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you didn't really follow the story. 422 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: It certainly wasn't on anybody's radar as a regular topic 423 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: in the way that it has been over the last 424 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: however many years. 425 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think. 426 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: He was trying to introduce the topic of Epstein to people, 427 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: the island, the perfect island, trying to alert the media 428 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: here's something to look into. You wouldn't do that if 429 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: you had something to hide, would you? 430 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: That would be crazy, right? 431 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 432 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: To me, that's just the logic behind that is okay. 433 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: So here are the three questions. Mark Alprin has that 434 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: haven't been answered, and you can determine whether or not 435 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: you think they're a big deal. One, what was the 436 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: relationship between Donald Trump and Epstein. 437 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: When they were friendly? And then what caused the break? 438 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: That He's had different answers for that, kind of different 439 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: moving explanations for why they broke number of different times. 440 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: Why did he fly in Epstein's plane? Halprin said, I've 441 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: known Trump a long time. He didn't fly in other 442 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: people's planes. He's got his own plane. He gets everywhere 443 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: he wants to be on his own plane. It's unlike 444 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: him to fly in somebody else. Why was he flying 445 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: on Epstein's plane? What were they what was the how 446 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: close were they? And then what was the break? Because 447 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: they've getten different answers over the years, so that's kind 448 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: of interesting. Again, I don't think there's gonna end up 449 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: being anything there with Trump that's gonna damage him seriously. 450 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: So question number two is more interesting, maybe fits in 451 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: with question number one. Everybody's wondering. Halprin says, in DC, 452 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: what the hell is the deal with Gallaine Maxwell getting 453 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: moved to that super comfy Nobody can explain that. 454 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: Sex offenders are never sent. 455 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: Nobody can explain that or come up with an example 456 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: of that happening in the past of somebody convicted of 457 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: what she's convicted of, just out of and and it 458 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: happened right after she does her eight hour interview with 459 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: the number one, number two, but really the number one 460 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: at the Justice Department. 461 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. What is that? It's a pure quit proquil. 462 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: If it's not, i'mpty shocked. 463 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, 464 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: and is paddling across a pond. 465 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: Okay, pro cool means something for something. What's the something? 466 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: And what's the something in this? 467 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 3: You sit down for an interview and Mitch, you make 468 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: it infinitely clear that Donald Trump did nothing untoward when 469 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: he knew Jeffrey Epstein. At the time, Trump thought that 470 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: was enough. In return, we send you to the cush prison. 471 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: It's almost got to be that. 472 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's Occam's razor. So oh, if 473 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: it's different than that, I'll be interested to find out. 474 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: But come on, go back to the duck. The duck 475 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: has got Akham's razor in its beak. Please, it's right quacky. 476 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: It is quacking. It is swimming. It is having baby 477 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: duck things. I mean, right, it's a duck. 478 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: But so that kind of blows up the first one 479 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: on when you know he brought up he was introducing Epstein. 480 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: He mentioned it in the Seapack speech and then wanted 481 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: to talk to journalists about the Clintons and Epstein. Well, 482 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: you know how easily ruffled Trump's feathers are, speaking of 483 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: birds of a feather, how easily butt hurt he is. 484 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: He was like, people are saying I was perven with 485 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: with the King of the pervs. I wasn't. It needs 486 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: to stop. I wanted to stop. Who can stop it? Well, 487 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: Delaine Maxwell, maybe all right, get her to say I 488 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: didn't do anything. Well, or I have to cut her 489 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 3: a deal. I don't care says Trump cut her a deal. 490 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: Just get her to say it didn't do anything. I 491 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: think it was as simple as. 492 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: That which she did. She very specific said that Trump 493 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: was not involved in any of this, right, and then 494 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: she goes quite reasonably assumed would be plenty. And then 495 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: the third one unless it looked like a quid pro quo, 496 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: in which she said, well, yeah, I'll say anything. 497 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: What do you want me to say? LBJ was there 498 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: getting handies. Okay, LBJ was there, fine, Now send me 499 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: to the tennis camp. 500 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: God if he commutes her sentence or pardons her, Holy crap, 501 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: maybe that's the deal. Maybe they told her, look, you 502 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: got three and a half years. You're going to live 503 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: in this tennis camp for three and a half years. 504 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna pardon me on the way out the door. 505 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: When he's an old man and no longer has any 506 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: political linything. People will screaming yet, but they'll forget about 507 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: what are they going to do? And you'll be out. 508 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: So just hang on, Yeah, are you liking the food? 509 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: If you're not liking the food, I'll get a different. 510 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: Chef, right because she's gotten special privileges even at the 511 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: tennis camp. Right, Yeah, that's what was going on there. Obviously, 512 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 3: bro put the dump back right, quacky please? 513 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the third one, which I'm surprised by from 514 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: as level headed a journalist. 515 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: Desire out is out there? 516 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: To my mind, Mark Alprin says he's not convinced Epstein 517 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: killed himself. 518 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: He's done it. 519 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: He's spent a lot of time with the videos and 520 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: the explanations and why the guards weren't there and who 521 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: wasn't watching the videos and who was supposed to be 522 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: and how Epstein ended up in a cell alone and 523 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And he's not convinced that Epstein 524 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: killed himself. 525 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: Or there wasn't. At least they put him in a. 526 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: Situation where he could kill himself and get away with 527 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: it when they're not supposed to do that, etc. 528 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: Right. Oh, yeah, that worked absolutely. Where are you on that? 529 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: I've been defining statement on that topic right after a 530 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 3: word from our friends at Webroote. My statement will shock you. 531 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 3: But hackers love the holidays. Fake shipping emails. You've seen those, 532 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: Jack who was talking about getting those? 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Live a 549 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 3: better digital life with webroot webroot dot com slash armstrong. 550 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: I've changed my mind, by the way, but I want 551 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: to hear your explosive comment. 552 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: All right, Oh here, here's what I would say about 553 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: the whether he killed himself or not. Due to the 554 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 3: sloppiness and corruption at to Jail in New York, it 555 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: will never be provable that he didn't, and the idea 556 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: that well, they just made it easy enough for him 557 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: to go ahead and do it by leaving him unmonitoring, 558 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: perhaps having been paid. 559 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: Off in some way. Maybe. 560 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's again that's going to be difficult to prove, 561 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: but impossible to disprove, and not just for the obvious 562 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: reason that it's impossible to prove a negative. 563 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: It's just so sloppy and corrupt. 564 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: Well, I have been from the beginning one hundred percent, 565 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: he killed himself. My thinking all along was the guys 566 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: live in the greatest by by his standards, not mine. 567 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: Greatest life in the world. 568 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 1: Is rich and powerful, all the sex he wants, and 569 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: flies around his plane and got his own island, all 570 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: this sort of stuff, and what he's going to spend 571 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: the rest of his life in prison? 572 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: Who wants that? 573 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: And all the embarrassing stuff that's going to come out. 574 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: I always thought that makes sense, you kill yourself in 575 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: that situation. 576 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: But as has been. 577 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: Pointed out, and I don't know why he got convicted 578 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: of this sort of thing before, and he didn't kill himself, 579 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: and he spent thirteen months in prison, and then he 580 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: got out and went back to his super cool life. 581 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: So why wouldn't he have thought that he could have 582 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: done that again? Now more serious charges. 583 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't have them in front of me, but more 584 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: serious charges and a repeat offender. 585 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: He was doomed. 586 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: You don't think living the life he lived that he thought, 587 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna beat this. I got connections, whether it's Donald, 588 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: whether it's the Clinton's. I got somebody's gonna pardon me. 589 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: At some point, maybe I have to do a couple 590 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: of years in prison. 591 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 592 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he thought that for a while. Then when he 593 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: realized it wasn't gonna happen, he thought, good night now. 594 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't know for sure. 595 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: I think the guards turned it back. They dimmed the lights. 596 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton comes walking in with a bed sheet. 597 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: We'll never know. We will never know. And that's why 598 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton laughed. Michael just did what are you your 599 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: place in? What are you doing? You looking at real estate? 600 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: Emailing your friends? 601 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 1: Clock clickclock, sensible heels walking down the hall up the prison, 602 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: having just choked out Jeffrey Epstein. 603 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 3: Epstein's thinking, why is somebody wearing heels on the cell block? 604 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: That's weird Hillary. 605 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: I like the idea that Hillary choked him herself as 606 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: an old woman, the waddling old gal who couldn't even 607 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: get in and out of a van back. 608 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen. She's doing a strong arm doing wet work. 609 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: As they say, you know this recent at least twenty nineteen. 610 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, any thoughts on any of this, you can 611 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: text us four one, five, two nine to five KFTC. 612 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: So I mentioned the headline of the day from the 613 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: New York Post. Jeffrey Epstein had a tiny, extremely deformed penis, 614 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: shaped like a lemon, says victim. 615 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: This is from a substack interview yesterday. 616 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: One of the victims that was on the Capitol steps 617 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: yesterday that cheered when they vote went down to release 618 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: the files. I don't know if any of the files 619 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: include the shape of his junk. 620 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: No, this is audio of deposition back in what do 621 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: we have a year on this? Fairly recently before his death? Well, 622 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: go ahead addressing this issue, Yeah, okay, would you. 623 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 6: Please give us your name, Jeffrey Epstein. Is it true, sir, 624 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 6: that you have what's been described as an egg shaped penis? 625 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: Form? 626 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 7: Vague and definite and I'm going to give you the 627 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 7: first one in, mister Fuban that these types of questions 628 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 7: are not only argumented, but directly in the management embarrassed 629 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 7: mister Epstein. If you continue with this type of question, 630 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 7: I will join the deposition immediately. 631 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 6: There are according to the police Department's probable cause affidavit, 632 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 6: one witness described your penis is oval shaped and claim 633 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 6: when it was towards the bottom but was thin and 634 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 6: small towards and called it egg shaped. Those are not 635 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 6: my words. I apologize, but as mister Jared, as mister 636 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 6: Critten has stated that this is a I'm willing to continue. 637 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: Well, is it a lemon or an egg? 638 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: I mean, don't got to nail going to send you 639 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: to the grocery store if you don't write the difference 640 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: between a lemon and an egg? 641 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: Can we got to nail this down? 642 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not quite sure why it was bleeped in 643 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: that way, but yeah, I like the two thousand and nine. 644 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: I get the I get the lawyer saying that's meant 645 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 1: to embarrass my client. 646 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: I don't understand the it's argumentative. 647 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: What maybe they had been claiming a lemon before and 648 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: now they're saying egg? 649 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: And so which is what's next? Ping pong ball? When's 650 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: his end? 651 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 3: And I don't think at this point anybody disputes that 652 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was purven on young women and underage girls 653 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: and the rest of it. So his schwanstick and its 654 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: shape is is just not material at this point, I 655 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 3: don't think. 656 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. 657 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: Well it probably do you think that that was meant 658 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: just meant to embarrass him? Was that the reason to 659 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: bring it up? 660 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: No? 661 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 3: I think it was to substantiate the witness testimony. I've 662 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: seen it in several sexual abuse cases. 663 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, including Bill Clinton. 664 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sure why the guy running the deposition wouldn't 665 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: allow it unless that was Epstein's attorney. 666 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: That wasn't that part of the whole Bill Clinton thing? 667 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: That PAULA Jones could identify his particularly shaped first. 668 00:34:51,680 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 2: The first penace. Yes, indeed, Katie got nothing. No, oh 669 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: don't really, now why would you know? 670 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 3: No, I'm through with this and I won't let the 671 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: good lady be uh be sullied by your your. 672 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: You know I appreciate that. Thank you. 673 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcomes. The raccoons are showing early 674 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: signs of domestication. 675 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 2: Eggs and lemons are pretty similar. They're not totally dissimilar. 676 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: Your next pet. 677 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: This, this is the way it intended to tease this story. 678 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 2: Your next pet could be a raccoon. Stay with us. 679 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 8: They are cute, They get the little masks. Football's similar 680 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 8: to an eggar lemon, not in size. Rugby we're talking 681 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 8: would be closer. 682 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: Rugby ball would be closer to an aglar element. Well, again, 683 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: not totally dissimilar. I mean I think we're you're honor. 684 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: We're getting caught up over details here. You're being argued 685 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: perven on home and. 686 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: Other word for raccoons trash pandas trash pandas. That's how 687 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: Judy and I refer to them all the time. 688 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: Well, if you want a cute little pet that in 689 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: the middle of the night will turn into a wild 690 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: animal and rip your kid's face off, this might be 691 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: for you. 692 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. Wow, okay, good days. Yeah, we'll have that. 693 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: And we got to get into that Democrat lady Epstein 694 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: will take a break from Epstein. But that Democrat lady 695 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: who was talking to Epstein during a hearing, right, did 696 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: you hear that story? 697 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: What get an advice? 698 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty