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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Happy Saturday? Another Fox Sports Saturday for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Carl Vitally. I'm filling in in the host chair

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Speaker 2: for Alex Curry, who is off today but with me.

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Speaker 2: Although not actually in my studio, I have to still

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Speaker 2: look at him through the glass. This is Martin Weiss,

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Speaker 2: who I usually just gets my update anchor.

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Speaker 3: But I'm so excited that you're here, Martin. I'm glad

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Speaker 3: to be here.

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Speaker 4: You know, we just talked, we spoke this into existence

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Speaker 4: a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Sure did, but uh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would be over there, but y'all still got

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Speaker 4: stuff to do. Yes, I know sano here. I got

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Speaker 4: a pitch, I got a.

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Speaker 3: Here you are. You're a two way player today.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Travis Hunter might even be a better analogy for

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Speaker 2: you right now, but I know you need your like

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Speaker 2: multiple screens, do the update, Martin. Martin's doing a lot

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Speaker 2: for me today, So I appreciate y'all being here. We've

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Speaker 2: got a great show for you. I have a Q Shipley,

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Speaker 2: twelve year NFL veteran Super Bowl champion offensive line guru.

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Speaker 2: He's the host of a segment on the Pat McAfee

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Speaker 2: show called in the Trenches, so you know that he's

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Speaker 2: one of my nearest and dearest. And then also Adam

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Speaker 2: Amen will be joining the show in the second hour

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Speaker 2: to talk not only about all of the jobs he

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Speaker 2: does for in sports, but also he's a DJ and

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Speaker 2: I've actually seen him DJ, so we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: that a little bit. But we've got NFL or we've

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Speaker 2: got NBA playoffs, we've got NFL Draft kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And then we also have some sports gossip that Martin,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to dive into with you.

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Speaker 4: One of my friends once told me that, like a

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Speaker 4: friend who's not into sports, was like, oh, all these

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Speaker 4: shows are just they're just like if Real Housewives had

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Speaker 4: reunions every day.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has their sport. It might not be an actual sport,

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Speaker 2: but it is. It is this like reality television of sport,

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Speaker 2: like Bravo is a league. You can't and you can't

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Speaker 2: convince me otherwise.

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Speaker 4: And what we'll talk about at the top of next

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Speaker 4: hour is absolutely one of those moments where Wow.

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Speaker 5: We're really blending entertainment here.

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Speaker 3: We really are.

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Speaker 2: We're multi faceted, Martin, Embrace it. We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Fox It's radio studios today.

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Speaker 3: And I want to start though.

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Speaker 2: With the most topical of anything right now, which is

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Speaker 2: obviously the NBA playoffs in full swing. We I just said,

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Speaker 2: at the Fox Sports radio studios in Los Angeles. Uh So,

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Speaker 2: the topic of conversation, despite the fact that the Clippers

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Speaker 2: are still playing for their playoff lives, is the fact

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Speaker 2: that the Lakers are no longer I I I I was.

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Speaker 2: I was concerned Martin when when the Lakers went out

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Speaker 2: and got Luka Dancic. Okay, and not to say they

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have done this, because obviously that was a steal,

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Speaker 2: like the Lakers absolutely fleeced the Maps and and there's

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Speaker 2: it's been hell on earth in Dallas ever since. But

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Speaker 2: what my concern was, and imember talking to a Roch

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Speaker 2: Marczi about this and sometimes on this show, was that,

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Speaker 2: all right, you would essentially if you're the Lakers, you

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Speaker 2: didn't really have that grade of a defense to begin with,

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Speaker 2: and you traded away you're one player that was like

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Speaker 2: your best defender, you're your best two way guy. And

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Speaker 2: now I was like, all right, that probably doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: right now in the regular season. But as we all know,

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Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs are completely different. They might as well

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Speaker 2: be a different sport.

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Speaker 4: I mean, especially the way the officiating is right now,

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Speaker 4: It basically is being a different sport.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, was this lack of defense going to eventually

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Speaker 2: catch up with the Lakers?

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Speaker 3: And I think it did.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, it absolutely did.

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Speaker 4: And honestly, it's a complete roster right, Like they tried

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Speaker 4: to make the Mark Williams trade, weren't able to do

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Speaker 4: it for whoever backed out for whatever reason. And it's

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Speaker 4: like the reason why they were trying to make that

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Speaker 4: trade because they saw we have a hole here that

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Think it was a disappointing end to the season for

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Speaker 4: the Lakers, and I thought it was more of a

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Speaker 4: honestly a Minnesota level of this team was in the

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Speaker 4: Western Conference Finals last year.

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Speaker 3: That was GNA.

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Speaker 2: My question to you is was this more the Lakers

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Speaker 2: losing it or was it more that, like we should

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Speaker 2: have been taking the Minnesota Timberwolves a little bit more

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Speaker 4: I think should have been taking the Timberwolves more seriously

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Speaker 4: all along, especially when you consider that like it's kind

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how to quantify it.

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Speaker 4: But Julius Randall, Grudy Gobert, and Carlyn d Towns, three

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Speaker 4: big men who have been much more lined in the postseason,

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Speaker 4: have all had their best postseason series playing with Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 4: But uh, it's it's you know, as that guy as

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Speaker 4: him being like the engine of the car.

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Speaker 5: It's something to be said about it.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I watched Cornicleton Towns was almost file out

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Speaker 4: with six points in a close out game last week.

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Speaker 4: So things have changed, you know. And I watched Julius

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Speaker 4: Randall guard Luca Dontons have changed, right, and so I

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Speaker 4: think it had a lot to do with the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 5: The thing with the Lakers for.

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Speaker 4: Me though, was I I never thought that this year

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Speaker 4: they had to line up right for them, I think

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Speaker 4: the Denver was gonna beat them. You know, Minnesota's got

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Speaker 4: three guys seven feet tall. You know that's tough matchup.

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Speaker 4: The thing for me, I was curious, I don't when

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Speaker 4: you hiring a head coach. And I think about this

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Speaker 4: all the time because I fell hook line and sinker

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Speaker 4: for Brady Holk at the University of Michigan. Brady Hope

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Speaker 4: got the job at Michigan. I watched that introductor of

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Speaker 4: press conference and it was almost tears coming down my eyes.

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Speaker 4: I was like, finally things are going to be better,

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Speaker 4: and you know what, nothing changed.

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Speaker 5: In fact, things got worse.

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Speaker 2: There's a common denominator that stays the same. But that's

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Speaker 2: another conversation ran.

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Speaker 4: But the thing about it was he was just so

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Speaker 4: gung ho at the opening press conference, and so I

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Speaker 4: left it at that moment. I will never be impressed

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Speaker 4: by an opening press conference over again, but you can

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Speaker 4: you can't do some things that bothered me a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And when JJ Reddick said his opening press conference, I

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Speaker 4: don't give an f with people on it, Like basically,

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Speaker 4: I don't give f what people on the internet have

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Speaker 4: to say, what critics have to say about dispelling rumors

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Speaker 4: and notions. Right, It's like, first of all, I don't

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Speaker 4: believe you, cause three days ago you were on TV

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Speaker 4: responding to people who you know, like like we both

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Speaker 4: were in that space, Like you one hundred percent care

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Speaker 4: what the internet is talking about because that's how it.

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Speaker 5: Helps inform what you're going to then.

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Speaker 3: Talk about on TV to let.

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Speaker 2: People behind the curtain a little bit too, because I've

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Speaker 2: worked for teams directly and I've worked in PR in

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Speaker 2: addition to covering the team's like fourteen websites. When coaches

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Speaker 2: tell you that they don't pay attention to what's going on,

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Speaker 2: they don't know what's going on, they're not like on

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Speaker 2: social media, that is complete bs Because as a PR intern,

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Speaker 2: do you want to know what one of my jobs was?

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Speaker 2: It was to create a clip, a media clip packet

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Speaker 2: I ever had to do this for wanted it first

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Speaker 2: that is usually actually the first thing that these guys

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Speaker 4: Look, and then you go to his last that's like

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Speaker 4: three press conferences, right, his last three press conferences, the

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Speaker 5: And then the pregame.

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Speaker 4: When he gets asked the question by the reporter at KTLA,

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Speaker 4: it's like basically, do you Basically the question that the

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Speaker 4: reporter wanted to ask him was did any of your

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Speaker 4: assistants also think it was dumb not to sub anybody

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Speaker 4: out in the second half, But he danced around it, right,

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Speaker 4: because he's got relationships, he's a local guy, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He's like, I gotta stay here to

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Speaker 4: the dance, right, And so JJ instead of dancing, was like, Oh,

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Speaker 4: you're calling me out because I'm in experience. Like who

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Speaker 4: called you an experience, bro? You called your self and

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Speaker 4: yourself in experienced, right, and so then and then in

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Speaker 4: the post game, he's like, everybody's saying, play a center,

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Speaker 4: play a center. We can't score. Who's everybody?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: Who's everybody?

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Speaker 3: You're not paying attention? How would you now?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: If you're not paying attention, how would you know? And

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Speaker 5: I say that to say.

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Speaker 4: If he had if he had burned the boats in

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Speaker 4: that second half and it had worked and the Lakers

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Speaker 4: were still playing, right now, people will be calling him

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Speaker 4: a genius. Sure, right, It's like, why don't you run

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Speaker 4: the two minute drill all quarter? You know, I don't

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Speaker 4: get it, bot, just make the whole play out of

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Speaker 4: the black blocks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 4: But the reality is is like, when you're a coach,

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Speaker 4: especially in this scenario, you have to be able to

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Speaker 4: stand on your decisions and feel.

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, we lost, but I was I tried to

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Speaker 5: win the game. I was trying to win the game.

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Speaker 4: And when you see generally, in my opinion, she coaches

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Speaker 4: who get overly defensive like that, it's when you're on

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Speaker 4: year three.

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Speaker 2: When you don't have the track record to back you up,

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Speaker 2: when you can't point to things that you've already done

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Speaker 2: and say, look, it worked that time, and say exactly

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Speaker 2: what you just said, which is it didn't work this time,

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Speaker 2: but it could happen.

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Speaker 3: If it did, then you'd all be calling me a genius.

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Speaker 2: You only get that benefit if you've been in the

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Speaker 2: league longer. So I do feel like younger coaches are

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Speaker 2: more defensive. They are a little bit more sensitive.

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Speaker 3: And not to.

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Speaker 2: Mention, he's younger just in age and so he's a

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Speaker 2: little bit more in tune.

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Speaker 3: I think with the.

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Speaker 2: Media landscape, well, I was gonna say more so than like,

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Speaker 2: you know, like Pop a bitch or anybody, which I

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Speaker 2: all the memes about Pop, despite the fact that Pop

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Speaker 2: wasn't actually on the internet. He's all over the internet,

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Speaker 2: and I just adore that. I just it begs the

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Speaker 2: question of like, all right, are you letting outside source,

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Speaker 2: like outside forces, I should say, kind of control the

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Speaker 2: way that you think and the way that you coach

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Speaker 2: your team. And I think that's the biggest concern when

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Speaker 2: you talk about a guy that seems sensitive. It's not

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Speaker 2: that he's sensitive. Everybody's sensitive to some degree.

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Speaker 3: It's how much do you let that dictate your actions?

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Speaker 2: And that's what is concerning when you see him get

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Speaker 2: all defensive in those press conferences.

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Speaker 4: And I think, honestly, if you look at something hit

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Speaker 5: Come on, dog, I'm gaving.

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Speaker 3: I'm been different, I've been different looking at you.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we didn't.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get to the rest of the Western Conference. Okay,

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Speaker 3: As the kids say, the East. I feel bad.

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Speaker 2: You're not you're not giving me any incentive to start

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Speaker 3: This is all excellent, guys. I love that when a

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Speaker 2: that the Packers that the Bears aren't in the Packers'

441
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Speaker 2: heads too. And I'll point to two certain things. So,

442
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Speaker 2: first of all, covering Matt Lafleur, he's a phenomenal coach,

443
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Speaker 2: and I.

444
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Speaker 3: Really believe that.

445
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Speaker 2: But the way that he coaches is he's kind of

446
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: a high strung guy. He'll see him lose his head

447
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 2: at ref's. He's losing his head at his players. That's

448
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Speaker 2: how he gets guys fired up. He's a fiery guy, great, wonderful,

449
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Speaker 2: But like so when I see this interview, I can

450
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Speaker 2: see that fire kind of bubbling underneath where he's just like,

451
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Ben Johnson, that's not true. You know

452
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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson because he was where was he before the Bear?

453
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Speaker 3: The Lion a division rival.

454
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Speaker 2: So that's why I didn't think that Ben Johnson saying

455
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Speaker 2: that was really even that big of a deal because

456
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Speaker 2: he's speaking from his own experience. He was beating Matt

457
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Speaker 2: Lafour twice a year in while he was in Detroit,

458
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Speaker 2: and so that's all he was calling back to when

459
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Speaker 2: he knew it would play with the Chicago audience or

460
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Speaker 2: whoever's media training. Ben Johnson, by the way, excellent job.

461
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Speaker 2: But this is why there's that that I'm like, all right,

462
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Speaker 2: the Bears are in the Packer's heads too. And then

463
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Speaker 2: what just happened a couple of weeks ago at in

464
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Speaker 2: Green Bay was the NFL Draft. There are former Packer

465
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Speaker 2: players that get one shot to get up there with

466
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Speaker 2: the commissioner to start the first round. And for as

467
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Speaker 2: much as I was holding my breath when Clay Matthews

468
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Speaker 2: went off script, what did he use that opportunity to

469
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Speaker 2: do to say the Bears suck? So I'm like, you

470
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Speaker 2: cannot tell me that the Bears are not in the

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Speaker 2: Packers heads too, okay? And I really think that, Like

472
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Speaker 2: I didn't think it was that big of a deal

473
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Speaker 2: that Ben Jonson said it. Like I said, he was

474
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Speaker 2: speaking from his own experience. He was all, he's been

475
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Speaker 2: a division rival of the Packers for years now as well.

476
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Speaker 2: It's not to the level that the Bears Packers rivalry

477
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Speaker 2: is because that's the oldest again rivalry in the NFL.

478
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Speaker 2: But it's a cool rivalry too. Like, here's the thing,

479
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Speaker 2: I don't think we should be treating this as something bad.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't there, I like, I prefer My question was

481
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Speaker 4: just like, is was it a level of I.

482
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Speaker 3: Kind of should be? It should be the level of

483
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Speaker 3: like I shouldn't like Matt Laver should not care?

484
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Speaker 4: Because the record would say on the floors like ya,

485
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Speaker 4: I've made the playoffs a bunch of time, Like what

486
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Speaker 4: have you done?

487
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Speaker 3: It had exectifinitely more success.

488
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Speaker 4: That kind of where I was looking at it, like

489
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Speaker 4: bes Johnson's is light work to me? Like I get

490
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Speaker 4: it that he was. He's a young, hot coordinator, so

491
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Speaker 4: was I. Once you know what I'm saying, And then

492
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Speaker 4: now look at me, do this. You know what I'm saying,

493
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Speaker 4: You can beat me?

494
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Speaker 9: All right?

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Speaker 3: Do it?

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Speaker 5: Then?

497
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Speaker 3: But doesn't that inherently mean he cares.

498
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Speaker 5: No one hundred percent? But I just I just want

499
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Speaker 5: to make it clear.

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's wonderful that each of these

501
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Speaker 2: teams are still in each other's heads after all this time,

502
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Speaker 2: after all the success that the packers have had, after

503
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Speaker 2: how one sided it has been. I'm glad because I

504
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Speaker 2: love rivalries. They're good for sports. However you decide to

505
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Speaker 2: keep those up. I'm I love it, I love it.

506
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Speaker 4: We are sympatico right there because I like, I appreciate

507
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Speaker 4: the trash talk back.

508
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Speaker 3: We don't have enough rivalries anymore. They've all died out.

509
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Speaker 2: So let this one continue, let this fire burn, and

510
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Speaker 2: with that, please give us an update Martin.

511
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Speaker 4: You know, I was gonna try to make a joke,

512
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Speaker 4: but I don't have a joke, So I'm just gonna

513
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Speaker 4: go ahead and say that every single horse running in

514
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Speaker 4: the one hundred and fifty first Kentucky Derby.

515
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Speaker 5: Is a descended of Secretary. That's incredible.

516
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Speaker 4: I know, six hundred and sixty foles have been sired.

517
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Speaker 4: That's horse talk for he had six hundred and sixty kids,

518
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Speaker 4: all nineteen horses in this.

519
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Speaker 2: Year's got to be with a lot of money. I'll

520
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Speaker 2: get to it a little bit because I want to

521
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Speaker 2: talk about it a little bit later.

522
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Speaker 10: But it's like a Philip Rivers kids formed an NFL

523
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Speaker 10: offense or something, you know, to.

524
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Speaker 4: Wow, No, it would be like legitimately if they all

525
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Speaker 4: started playing quarterback and then all of a sudden, like

526
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Speaker 4: a third of the league is quarterbacked.

527
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Speaker 8: By this, you know, We're not just talking about a

528
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Speaker 8: fifty three man broster. We're talking full ninety in summer camps.

529
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Speaker 4: So the Secretariat recorded the fastest time in Kentucky Derby

530
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Speaker 4: history in nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 5: Post time is six fifty seven Eastern.

532
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Speaker 4: And if you look at the broadcast, you'll see Carmelo

533
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Speaker 4: Anthony wearing a stunning green suit with interesting hat.

534
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Speaker 5: There. I liked it. I liked the outfit.

535
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Speaker 4: To people wear bad weather across America Today though match

536
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Speaker 4: Cardinals postponed due to rain. The Pirates and the Padres

537
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Speaker 4: start in a rain delay, but early today we saw

538
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Speaker 4: them get it in and New York the Race came

539
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Speaker 4: from behind in the eighth inning to beat the Yankees

540
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Speaker 4: three to two.

541
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Speaker 5: Aaron Judge with his eleventh homer of the year.

542
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Speaker 4: Astros Jake Myers four for four with four extra base

543
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Speaker 4: hits at seven RBI.

544
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Speaker 1: Wow.

545
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Speaker 4: Last time I checked this score, he had two home

546
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Speaker 4: runs thirteen total base He's got an Astros record. As

547
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Speaker 4: they are beating your White Sox carbon in eight to

548
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Speaker 4: three in.

549
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Speaker 5: The bottom of the eighth inning.

550
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Speaker 4: So on yesterday, that's you know, that's the thing about basebally,

551
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Speaker 4: you gotta play again.

552
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Speaker 2: See all the guys in the alfield with their shirts off.

553
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Speaker 2: Like you talk about teams need to know how to lose,

554
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Speaker 2: coach lose win.

555
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you that.

556
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Speaker 4: Jake Myers right now put it on a record performance

557
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Speaker 4: for his team. Top of the third Rockies Giants scoreless.

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Speaker 4: Bottom of the second Twins, Red Sox scoreless. Uh, the

559
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Speaker 4: A's up to nothing on the Marlins in the top

560
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Speaker 4: of the second inning.

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Speaker 5: And the earlier today seven like.

562
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Speaker 4: A beat Golf of straight sets to win her record

563
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Speaker 4: tying third Madrid o back to.

564
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Speaker 3: Us, back to us.

565
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Speaker 2: Thanks Martin Paul in double duty today. Really appreciate that.

566
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Speaker 2: But right now, let's go and talk to a man

567
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Speaker 2: after my own heart, twelve year NFL veteran Rimington Trophy winner,

568
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Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, Super Bowl champion, current broadcaster on

569
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Speaker 2: the Pat McAfee show, and O line guru trains a

570
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Speaker 2: bunch of guys. I've seen it firsthand, my dear friend

571
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Speaker 2: AQ Shipley.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Aq.

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Speaker 9: Quite the intro. Thank you guys for having me.

575
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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm so excited you're here because I feel like, obviously,

576
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Speaker 2: more representation for the Trenchman is never a bad thing,

577
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Speaker 2: but you have been intimately involved in the draft process

578
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Speaker 2: for some of the from the prospect angle, because you

579
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Speaker 2: train offensive line prospects for the draft, you train guys

580
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Speaker 2: while they're in the league. But I want to understand

581
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Speaker 2: and I want the listeners to understand this period of

582
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Speaker 2: time after you get drafted, what is kind of the cadence.

583
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Speaker 2: What are you doing to kind of prepare for your

584
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Speaker 2: first NFL season. If you are a guy that was

585
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Speaker 2: just drafted.

586
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Speaker 9: It is such a whirlwind whenever you get drafted, because

587
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Speaker 9: what people don't realize is like a lot of the veterans,

588
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Speaker 9: right like, as soon as the season's over, you get

589
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Speaker 9: your two months off and then you start training again.

590
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Speaker 9: A lot of these college kids, there's been no break.

591
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Speaker 9: The minute they're bowl games over, the minute their last

592
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 9: games over, they're shooting to wherever they're training to get

593
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Speaker 9: ready for the Combine or their bowl game, or their

594
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Speaker 9: Senior Bowl or East West Round, whatever it may be.

595
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Speaker 9: And then you get done with that. Then you go Combine,

596
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Speaker 9: you do all the stuff, and then you get done

597
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Speaker 9: with the Pro Day, and then the draft comes and

598
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Speaker 9: then you're right into rookie mini camp and then you're

599
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Speaker 9: throwing in with the Wolves you're thrown in with the

600
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Speaker 9: rest of the group and it's like, hey, figure it out,

601
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Speaker 9: and you're spending extra time. And then when the vets

602
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 9: get to go and go back to their homes and

603
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 9: get back to training and do whatever it is, the

604
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Speaker 9: rookie you get a staand extra two weeks, so there's

605
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Speaker 9: no break. I mean, it is pedal down, full speed

606
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Speaker 9: ahead the minute this happens, and you're just trying to

607
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 9: consume and take in as much as you possibly can.

608
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 9: And the good ones, the ones that make it as

609
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Speaker 9: a rookie, and the ones that you know end up

610
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Speaker 9: playing as a rookie, the ones that can you know,

611
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Speaker 9: get that knowledge, process it and be able to and

612
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Speaker 9: be able to be able to go as soon as

613
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Speaker 9: basically the season goes.

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Speaker 4: Thank you when you got drafted. I know this may

615
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: be a little minute shit, but I'm fascinated by it.

616
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Speaker 5: When you got drafted, how long did it take you

617
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Speaker 5: to pick a number? Did you pick a number? Where

618
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Speaker 5: you assigned the number?

619
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Speaker 4: And the longest sort of it is, did you want

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Speaker 4: anybody's retired number out of retirement? Because what's the deal

621
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Speaker 4: with this abdual Carter fifty six eleven and just could

622
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Speaker 4: you sign some insight on that for me as a layperson.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm a Penn State guy, so it's tough for

624
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Speaker 9: me to kind of go against my guy. But what

625
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 9: are we doing here? And what are we doing here?

626
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Speaker 9: I mean this is there's plenty of numbers, especially since

627
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Speaker 9: they did away with you know, linebackers had to be

628
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Speaker 9: either fifties or nineties, right like that, Now you can

629
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Speaker 9: be whatever number you want. For the most part, pick

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Speaker 9: a number, Pick a number, pick a number, Like it's

631
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Speaker 9: that simple. I don't understand what we're doing. There's plenty

632
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Speaker 9: of numbers, and like, at the end of the day,

633
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Speaker 9: I have respect for the older generations, Like if the

634
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Speaker 9: numbers retired and numbers retired, move on and pick a

635
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Speaker 9: different number, keep a movement, make it your own number.

636
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Speaker 4: This generally doesn't cause as much drama, right like this, well,

637
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: no it doesn't.

638
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Speaker 2: But like when you're talking about one of the greatest

639
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: to ever play the position, like there needs to be

640
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Speaker 2: some difference there, right.

641
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree, that's interesting, there's no question about it.

642
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 9: Because at the end of the day, like you sit

643
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 9: there and you hope that these rookies just kind of

644
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Speaker 9: fall in line, Like I understand your top three pick,

645
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Speaker 9: but you're still a rookie. You're still a rookie. There's

646
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 9: gonna be plenty of things that go on, and like,

647
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Speaker 9: if you are a good rookie, you can be a

648
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 9: damn good football player and you can start and you

649
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 9: can make twelve sacks and make the Pro Bowls a rookie.

650
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Speaker 9: But what's going to be remembered most by the veteran

651
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 9: guys is you just putting your nose down, putting your

652
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Speaker 9: hard hat on, showing up to work, keeping your mouth shut,

653
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Speaker 9: and just working and just being and falling in line

654
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Speaker 9: with the rest of the.

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Speaker 3: Crew and to that.

656
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Speaker 2: And then so you work with these guys while they're

657
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Speaker 2: in the draft process, and like, these they're young players.

658
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Speaker 2: So what would you say is the biggest piece of

659
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Speaker 2: advice that you try to impart on them for when

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Speaker 2: you're done kind of training with them and they have

661
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Speaker 2: to go and on their merry way to their new team.

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Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing that you try to get them

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Speaker 2: to understand.

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Speaker 9: Exactly that I mean, it's the fact that you are

665
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Speaker 9: a rookie. It's the fact that you know you want

666
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Speaker 9: to go in there and make an impression and how

667
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Speaker 9: do you make an impression. Well, here's how you make

668
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Speaker 9: an impression. You show up, you study, you study extra,

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Speaker 9: you go back to your hotel room at night, you

670
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Speaker 9: study some more, and you make an impression by being

671
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Speaker 9: able to process information and being able to transfer that

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Speaker 9: to the field. That's how you make an impression. Like

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Speaker 9: I like I always when I was in my ninth

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Speaker 9: or tenth year, whatever it may be, I'd sit there

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Speaker 9: and I'd be like, Okay, well is this guy going

676
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Speaker 9: back and studying? Well, like, if you have to continue

677
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Speaker 9: to tell this guy how to run twenty two do

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Speaker 9: and once you explain it to him once and he

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Speaker 9: screws it up two more times, and now he's on

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Speaker 9: his fifth time screwing up the same exact play, and

681
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Speaker 9: we're in the fourth week of the off season. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 9: he's not putting in the effort. He's not putting in

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Speaker 9: what we're doing. So you have to sit there and

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Speaker 9: you have to understand this is a job now, this

685
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Speaker 9: is this is everything. It's everything that I mean. They're

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Speaker 9: paying you a lot of money now, especially if you're

687
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Speaker 9: a high draft pick. They're paying you a lot of

688
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Speaker 9: money to process this information transfer to the field and

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Speaker 9: be able to go in there and impress the coaches

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Speaker 9: and show them that they can trust you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No one's going to do it for you know, one's

693
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Speaker 2: going to hold your hand like maybe they did in

694
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Speaker 2: college a little bit because everything is kind of set

695
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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 9: That's exactly right, AQ.

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Speaker 4: Now that AQ Shipley joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Now that we kind of have done with the team

699
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Speaker 4: building parts. Not all the way done obviously, but we've

700
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Speaker 4: had a lot of the free agencies completed, the drafts

701
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Speaker 4: that's completed. Which offensive line grouping do you think is

702
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Speaker 4: like the most improved from last year to this year.

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Speaker 9: I think the Minnesota Vikings, yep, hands down made the

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Speaker 9: biggest jump. And the reason and listen, it's a reactionary league,

705
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Speaker 9: right and so when you look at what they accomplished,

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Speaker 9: right well by winning whatever it was fourteen games in

707
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Speaker 9: the regular season last year, and they go and get

708
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Speaker 9: smoked by giving up seven sacks in a first round

709
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Speaker 9: playoff game, that's a very reactionary move by handling. By

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Speaker 9: the way they handle free agency and the way they

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Speaker 9: handle the draft. So I think their tackle combo is

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Speaker 9: as good as it gets. I was fortunate enough to

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Speaker 9: work with Brian O'Neill this offseason. Absolute stud right tackle there.

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Speaker 9: Christian Darris, in my opinion, is the next Trent Williams.

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Speaker 9: And now you go ahead and you pair them with

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Speaker 9: a veteran Studd and Ryan Kelly at center. You bring

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Speaker 9: Will fries in, who's a young up and coming guard,

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Speaker 9: and then you draft a kid in the first round

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Speaker 9: in Donovan Jackson. And so they instantly went from a

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Speaker 9: team that gave up seven sacks in a playoff games

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Speaker 9: to a team that's now going to be that's going

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Speaker 9: to be a strength of their offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I and and you saw how much that mattered too,

725
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Speaker 2: and especially when you want to get the run game going.

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Speaker 2: You written renewed Aaron Jones in Minnesota. I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I think that interior was covered up for the most

728
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Speaker 2: part by those two tackles and just how good they were.

729
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Speaker 2: But it was a pretty sorry excuse for defense or

730
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Speaker 2: an offensive line interior. Q. I really appreciate you coming

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Speaker 2: on with us and taking some time off of the

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Speaker 2: golf course.

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Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm down. I'm down at this event in Dallas

735
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Speaker 9: doing a little golf thing. But it's It's always fun

736
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Speaker 9: talking football, always fun. So thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: And in the trenches.

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Speaker 2: If you guys haven't seen his in the Trenches segment

739
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: on the Pat McAfee Show, and check it out during

740
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Speaker 2: the during the season.

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Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite things. The way that he

742
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: breaks down.

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Speaker 2: Uh the offensive offensive line place that you and I

744
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: can understand it.

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Speaker 3: He's very different. Thank you so much. AQ. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank We are going to take another quick break on

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Speaker 2: the other side of this.

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Speaker 3: We've got some dues and the don'ts of the day.

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Speaker 2: in for Alex Curry.

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Speaker 2: co hosting.

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Speaker 3: He's pulling double duty today. Just call him Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: We just talked to a q Shipley on the phone lines.

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Speaker 2: with that we're gonna highlight the dues and the don'ts

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Speaker 2: of the week.

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Speaker 7: Highlighting Oh I love that, putting a spotlight on the don't.

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Speaker 8: The subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 3: That that's insane.

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Speaker 2: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports,

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Speaker 2: all right, bart, and I'm gonna start. You're gonna start

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Speaker 2: with a do And it's something that we've kind of

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Speaker 2: touched on already in the update breaks do what works.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Kentucky Derby is on and Secretariat, the winner of

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Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy six Kentucky der A triple crown I

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Speaker 2: believe was is responsible for the entire field. He's responsible.

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Speaker 2: He is a just every single horse running in the

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby today is a descendant director otherwise from Secretariat,

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Speaker 2: which is insane.

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Speaker 3: It just speaks to how.

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Speaker 2: Good his lineage is, his bloodline is. There are quite

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Speaker 2: a few. There are multiple horses that are literal direct descendants,

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Speaker 2: so either they're his grand horse, shires, his grand fires.

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Speaker 2: But what that also tells me, Martin, is that there's

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of money that's gone into Secretariat's lineage.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, absolutely, I was gonna say, but there I

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Speaker 3: wasn't gonna go.

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Speaker 4: There's so many places ago I will say, do take

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Speaker 4: care of yourself. Mike Turrico ended up having to get

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Speaker 4: actually taken off in the Kentucky Derby broadcast because of

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Speaker 4: the illness.

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Speaker 3: It is cold, highest sixty degrees.

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Speaker 4: Rainy and all of that. He's not feeling the best.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully he does feel better. But you got to

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Speaker 4: understand the guy like trying to play sick, you know,

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Speaker 4: on the daylight the Kentucky.

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Speaker 5: Derby, Like that's what you do it for if you're

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Speaker 5: a guy like Marke Urrika. So hopefully he's able to

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Speaker 5: recover quickly.

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Speaker 4: And also a dentim Carmelo Anthony with this funny hat

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Speaker 4: announced as an NBA analyst like.

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Speaker 3: Two seconds ago on the Kentucky coverage.

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Speaker 2: You see if you guys are watching Kentucky Derby and

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Speaker 2: you saw Carmelo Anthony like meet with the jockeys, it

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Speaker 2: was so funny, yes, because like obviously he's already a

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Speaker 2: tall dude and jockeys are already small dudes. But just

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Speaker 2: the height discrepancy and like the body mass discrepancy is

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Speaker 2: just hysterical when you see it so starkly.

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Speaker 3: All right, I have.

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Speaker 2: A don't say goodbye, say see you later to Greg

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Speaker 2: Kofovich retiring so many we touched on it earlier too,

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Speaker 2: when we talked about NBA like.

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Speaker 3: There's just so many good quotes, so many good memes.

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Speaker 2: And for a guy that like despise the Internet, he sir,

836
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Speaker 2: made it a better place.

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Speaker 3: But he also made basketball better place.

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Speaker 2: Just an absolutely legendary coach and Greg Popovich and so

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Speaker 2: incredibly accomplished not only with you know, the hardware and

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Speaker 2: what happens on the court, but with the way that

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Speaker 2: he related to his players and kept in touch with

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Speaker 2: his players and also gave his players opportunities, like you know, getting.

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Speaker 3: Tim Duncan on his coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: And I just say, he's exactly the guy that you

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Speaker 2: want your head coach to be.

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Speaker 5: I do wish he had not a load managed. I

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Speaker 5: wonder where would be today today.

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Speaker 4: Do find somebody who loves you like Jim Harbaugh loves

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Speaker 4: Justin Herbert. Jim Harbwall was on Rich Eyesen the other

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Speaker 4: day Friday, and he said, I woke up at three

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Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning when my best ideas comes, and

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Speaker 4: it was says, I have to get Justin Herbert to

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame.

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00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 3: Let's get Justin Herbert to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: That would be winning a couple of Super Bowls, that

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Speaker 4: a worthy goal.

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Speaker 3: It is a worthy goal.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean just in general, like, do you remember

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Speaker 2: how much Jim Harbaugh rode for JJ McCarthy in the

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Speaker 2: draft process and how much like he's just he's got

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Speaker 2: a brand. Jim Harbaugh has a brand, and by god,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna stick to it.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I have another. I guess it's a

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Speaker 3: don't do I don't know, it's.

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Speaker 2: Do you do do check like your I guess facts like,

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Speaker 2: before you participate in social media trends, do understand what

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Speaker 2: they are in the first place. And this is like

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Speaker 2: a little bit more like less sports, more like this

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Speaker 2: just happened to me this week. I went on Twitter

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Speaker 2: or on TikTok, I should say, And then I like,

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Speaker 2: because I kept seeing this butterfly effect. Do you see

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00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: this trend where it's like the butterfly effects?

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Speaker 3: Crazy?

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00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: What if I'd never gone on that hinge date. I

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00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: went on a rant being like, that's not the butterfly effect.

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00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: Put some respect on Ashon Cutchers and the movie of

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00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: the same name from the ninety or the early two thousand,

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Speaker 2: that's not the butterfly effect.

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00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: And I went and I explained the butterfly.

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Speaker 2: Effect and now I've gone viral for explaining something that

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Speaker 2: I'm not even really that well like equipped to handle.

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Speaker 3: Or to like to explain.

883
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, media literacy has gone down the toilet.

884
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about meteor literacy in the next segment,

885
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: but that was one thing that got me, and now

886
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: it's all over the internet with me explaining to people

887
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: what the butterfly effect.

888
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: Is absolutely media literacy toilet flush. Do work out over

889
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 4: the summer, Luca dncis because because here here's the thing,

890
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: it's out there now.

891
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 5: Nico Harrison called you fed and lazy.

892
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: JJ Reddick said, Championship seven, we got to figure it out.

893
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 5: Do come in in shape next year, Luca.

894
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: It really I don't care if he's fully healthy, but

895
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: it rears its ugly head when he's coming off an

896
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: injury and he's not as well conditioned as he should be. Like,

897
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: that's when you see that this matters so and I agree,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you there.

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Speaker 4: I got one more, Carmen, Uh do date people your

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Speaker 4: own age?

901
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Speaker 3: Oh geez, we'll talk about that right after this. We're

902
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Speaker 3: gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 2: I'm Carna Battali. I'm sitting in the host chair in

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Speaker 2: for Alex Curry, who was off today, and I've got

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Speaker 2: Martin Weiss with me in the update studio and as

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Speaker 2: my co host. Just a man that does it all,

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Speaker 2: a true modern renaissance man.

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know how modern I want to

913
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Speaker 4: be with the way that some of these trends are going,

914
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Speaker 4: you know, but uh, I'll take the renaissance, you know.

915
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Speaker 2: Yeah, guy that does it all, producer extraordinaire, all of

916
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Speaker 2: these things. We're coming to you live from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios, and if you'll allow me, Martin, we're

918
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Speaker 2: gonna get a little We're gonna spill some tea like

919
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Speaker 2: I feel like I should. We should be sipping like

920
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Speaker 2: Martini's and just like with a plate of fries and

921
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Speaker 2: a Caesar salad and just the girl.

922
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Speaker 3: The girl, exactly, girl.

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00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: Exactly, That's what I was saying, exactly, Like you know

924
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: how that goes? Because sports world is all in it

925
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Speaker 2: tizzy and for a lot of reasons why I think

926
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: this goes beyond even sports gossip. Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson,

927
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Speaker 2: his twenty four year old girlfriend, are in the news

928
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Speaker 2: again because of a CBS Morning's interview where Belichick went

929
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Speaker 2: on to talk about his new book, a memoir.

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Speaker 3: And Jordan, his girlfriend.

931
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Speaker 2: Slash pr manager apparently cut the interview short after Belichick

932
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Speaker 2: was asked about how they met. Now we apparently we

933
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Speaker 2: supposedly know how they met, which is that they met

934
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Speaker 2: on a plane in twenty twenty one while Jordan was

935
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Speaker 2: studying philosophy as a student. There is a fifty year

936
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Speaker 2: age gap between them, but that's none of my business.

937
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: What is my business, though, is when a twenty four

938
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Speaker 2: year old with limited experience, especially in this field, is

939
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Speaker 2: now calling the shots for a gigantic brand, which is

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and UNC football, right North Carolina Football, Jordan

941
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Speaker 2: branded North Carolina Football.

942
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Speaker 5: I get the ACC's been down, but I might still

943
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Speaker 5: this is.

944
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Speaker 2: So this is like they can like, be happy with

945
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Speaker 2: who you're happy with. I'm not here to judge love,

946
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Speaker 2: I'm not here to do any of that.

947
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Speaker 5: But a little bit, well a little bit.

948
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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I think we're all a little bit.

949
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Speaker 3: But I think if you read this and you don't

950
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Speaker 3: look like eh, Okay, Well, now.

951
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 2: Talking about butterfly effects and all of these certain things,

952
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: there is something called the Strysand effect where the more

953
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Speaker 2: that you shy away from or try to keep people

954
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Speaker 2: from knowing something it does stem from Barbarer streisand the

955
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Speaker 2: more that they're going to look into it. So now

956
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Speaker 2: that Jordan Hudson shut down this question about how they met,

957
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: it's like, wait a second, why aren't you Why aren't

958
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: you talking about it anymore?

959
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: And let me ask you you prior to this moment.

960
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Speaker 4: Yeah, now we both are in the weeds here, but

961
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Speaker 4: you had heard the story of how they had met, right,

962
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: we just the one line of they met on a

963
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Speaker 4: plane to Palm Beach in twenty twenty one, right, exactly right.

964
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Speaker 4: So I had heard that too, right.

965
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, I can leave it at that.

966
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Speaker 2: It's cute, it's a cute meet, cute whatever, Like I

967
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: could see how that would happen. You know, it's not

968
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Speaker 2: my business why she's flying first class down to Palm Beach,

969
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Speaker 2: but you know whatever, Uh, my biggest thing here, there's

970
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Speaker 2: a couple things. I'm gonna start kind of like with

971
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Speaker 2: something specific and then we can go a little more

972
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Speaker 2: granular here or u more broad here. The interview itself,

973
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Speaker 2: which is what spurred all of this. We in the

974
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Speaker 2: spirit of media literacy, we need to understand that subjects

975
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Speaker 2: do not dictate what an interviewer asks. Subjects do not

976
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Speaker 2: dictate what a journalist asks. Now, Bill Belichick was brought

977
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Speaker 2: to CBS Mornings to talk about his book. They talked

978
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Speaker 2: about his book that Bill Belichick even told on himself

979
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Speaker 2: in the statement that he released that they had a

980
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Speaker 2: half an hour long conversation that was very productive, and

981
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Speaker 2: they talked about the book, and YadA.

982
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Speaker 3: YadA, YadA. After you fulfill that courtesy.

983
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Speaker 2: By the way, there's nothing that says that you're obligated

984
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Speaker 2: to do this. If you're CBS Mornings, Belichick is doing

985
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Speaker 2: a press store to promote you need Belichick needs the

986
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Speaker 2: networks more than the networks need him.

987
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Speaker 5: In the scene, he's trying to sell the book.

988
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Speaker 3: He's trying to sell the book.

989
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: You are under no obligation as a journalist even ask,

990
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Speaker 2: but as a courtesy, they did. They ask about the book.

991
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: Everything else is fair game. After that, everything else not

992
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: to mention it's a memoir.

993
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: Guess who's part of his life?

994
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Speaker 2: Jordan how they met was three years ago and is

995
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Speaker 2: conceivably part of this story.

996
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Speaker 3: So the interviewer is actually in the book.

997
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Speaker 4: If you want to get technical, there's a line in

998
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Speaker 4: the book that says thank you to my muse and

999
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Speaker 4: intellectual and so on and whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's dedicated to her.

1001
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Speaker 5: There you go.

1002
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Speaker 2: So the interviewer is well within his rights as a

1003
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Speaker 2: journalist to ask Belichick about other things. That's how journalism works.

1004
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: That's why we have a free press. That's why people

1005
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: are held accountable. That's what journalism is supposed to be.

1006
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: It's supposed to get information and disseminate information and tell stories.

1007
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: That is what journalism is, no matter what anybody else

1008
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Speaker 2: wants to tell you.

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Speaker 4: And it the idea that it is not eyebrow raising

1010
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Speaker 4: at the minimum, right to have this be a room.

1011
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 4: All right, let's just take take it, take away the ages,

1012
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 4: take away.

1013
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: Where too, martiniz and now this is Martin after too, Martino.

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00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: Shares you can take away the ages, take away all

1015
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 5: of it.

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00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I just told you that the person who

1017
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Speaker 4: was also like heavily influencing North Carolina and media relations

1018
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Speaker 4: was also the head coach's wife, you'd be like that's

1019
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 4: a little like why that's the conflict.

1020
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Speaker 3: That should be.

1021
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 4: Somebody else's job exactly. That's somebody else's job in general.

1022
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Speaker 4: And when we see it is not out of the

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Speaker 4: ordinary to see coaches with their wives prominently displayed is

1024
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Speaker 4: the wrong term, but.

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Speaker 3: That's just like involved, like health involved.

1026
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like even Sark Sark and his wife got divorced

1027
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Speaker 4: and remarried, and she dressed she it was a story

1028
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: how she laid down in dressed him right, laid down

1029
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: his outfits for it to wear on game day and

1030
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Speaker 4: press conference and so on.

1031
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 5: So it's not out of the question or out of

1032
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 5: the ordinary for that to be the case.

1033
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: But it is weird when she actually works with miss

1034
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 3: Nick Saban.

1035
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Speaker 4: Might work for Alabama US in other words, that's that's

1036
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Speaker 4: that's the thing, Laurie els Arkisian does not work for

1037
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 4: University of Texas.

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00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 6: Well.

1039
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Speaker 2: That's that's how I want to transition kind of out

1040
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: to the broader sense of what this the implications of

1041
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: this relation ship are is So that interview with CBS

1042
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: also told on Jordan, because if you understand the basis

1043
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: of journalism and you have experience in this, you don't

1044
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: stop that interview there you understand that that's part of

1045
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: this and that all of that is within the realm

1046
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: of what the what the interview is going to contain,

1047
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: And by not thinking the or by thinking that you

1048
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,959
Speaker 2: can dictate it, you're showing your lack of experience in pr.

1049
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Speaker 4: Because what you do is you cut off the third question.

1050
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Speaker 4: Maybe if that, but it's like, oh, how'd you guys meet?

1051
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: You have the blanket boiler plate, we met on a plane,

1052
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: we connected. I was helping her with their homework, so

1053
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 4: on and so forth, and then when they asked, well,

1054
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: what kind of homework was it, you'd be like, well,

1055
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Speaker 4: we're really.

1056
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: Shit, let's let's stick to the top. Like that's fine,

1057
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: that's your way. You maneuver that scenario exactly. And so

1058
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: you're showing your lack of experience. And why does that

1059
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: matter because you have such an important role now in

1060
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: a program that is bigger than you.

1061
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: If Belichick was retired and.

1062
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Speaker 2: You're going on a book tour to do like with

1063
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: his memoir and everything like that, great, guess what, Belichick

1064
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: is the only one that is impacted by your actions,

1065
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: your lack of experience any of that. That's fine, that's

1066
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: his prerogative. But now because you have the ear and

1067
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: the like, you have the power of Bill Belichick behind

1068
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: you with a football program that impacts like these kids

1069
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: that are on the roster, if they were on the

1070
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: roster before Belichick got there, they certainly didn't sign up

1071
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: for this. Even the guys that were recruited by Belichick,

1072
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: they probably didn't sign up for this Belichick either. And

1073
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: to have that type of sway over people's livelihoods because

1074
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: college is no longer amateur hour.

1075
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Speaker 3: That is a problem.

1076
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: And the fact that she has real estate in her like,

1077
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff. Honestly, that's a moot point.

1078
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: It is how does this affect the University of North

1079
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: Carolina football program? And the answer is it does tremendous.

1080
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: And you are playing with people's lives at this point

1081
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: because you were not hired by the university, you were

1082
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: not vetted by the university, You were not put in

1083
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: this position because the university thought that you would be

1084
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: a net good for this program.

1085
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 4: And the thing that gets me is that if you

1086
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Speaker 4: were in a scenario where like to your point, we

1087
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 4: both agree that it has an impact on North Carolina's

1088
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: football program, right, yes, but I think that because they're

1089
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 4: so afraid to say what actually is going on. It

1090
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 4: feels like I'm not sure.

1091
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if.

1092
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: The impact that I'm envisioning her having is actually outsized

1093
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 4: to what her impact actually is.

1094
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying. But because they.

1095
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: Go about it, like you said with the strayshand effect, like,

1096
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: because you're going about it trying to suppress this information,

1097
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: now it is my mind is filling in gas like well,

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Speaker 4: Luca donc just got traded. It didn't make sense, right,

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00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 4: So all of a sudden, when things don't make sense

1100
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: to human mind automatically starts to fill in tries to

1101
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 4: rationalize why this would happen, Why would this be the case?

1102
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 4: So like when you go to like this situation here,

1103
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: she says, well, why don't you want to talk about

1104
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: what's actually like also.

1105
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: A very basic question, It was not invasive and again

1106
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: like if you can, you have the built in answer there.

1107
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: So because you refuse to answer the question, like as

1108
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: the subject, you are free to answer it however you want,

1109
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: but not answering it then says to me, there's something

1110
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: more to the story. And then everybody's going to dig in.

1111
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: And even if there's not something more to the story.

1112
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: You have now created a fascination with this part of

1113
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: your story, so that all of the other stuff from

1114
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: your past is.

1115
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: Going to be brought to light.

1116
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 4: Now, Claraz, you would have just said, I didn't know

1117
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: two weeks ago that she had a sixty eight year

1118
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 4: old ex boyfriend prior to old Billy boy.

1119
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 9: I know.

1120
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 3: I saw that too.

1121
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: I haven't like vetted it from any sort of like

1122
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: multiple sources. This is the journalist in me wanting to

1123
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: do that before I jump to those conclusions. But yeah, rumored,

1124
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 2: the rumor is that she already had a sixty something

1125
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: year old boyfriend and at that point she would have

1126
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: been what like nineteen twenty.

1127
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 3: I feel like I read it in the New York Post. Okay, well,

1128
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 3: so that goes back and forth.

1129
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 5: Honestly, I get your point. Yeah, yeah, where we are today.

1130
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: No, at the end of the day, it's not the

1131
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: relationship that bothers me, so like, it's not the gossip

1132
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: part of this.

1133
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: It is the part of this where she.

1134
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: Has say an authority that she was given by Bill

1135
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: and not by the university, over the lives of people

1136
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: at this university and the livelihoods, and that, to me

1137
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: is the problem.

1138
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, she like, I just googled Jordan Hudson and now

1139
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it's this headline from US Weekly.

1140
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 5: True.

1141
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 4: Yes, today, Jordan Hudson would be rate and control. High

1142
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 4: school boyfriend former classmate claims nobody was doing.

1143
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: These googles when you just reconfirmed your relationship. Yeah, back

1144
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: when you first confirmed it, no one did this. But

1145
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: now you created this fascination. You've created the strive state effect,

1146
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: and now you're gonna have to suffer the ramifications, which

1147
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: again speaks to your inexperience in PR and public relations

1148
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: and journalism for that matter.

1149
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 5: Right, I can't figure anybody better to be run in

1150
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: the program.

1151
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, those poor kids. All right, we're gonna take

1152
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: a quick break. On the other side of this, We're

1153
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: gonna I guess that qualifies as some more sports gossip.

1154
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the Browns uh thinking behind their

1155
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: draft strategy and what Cam Newton has to say to

1156
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: Stir Sanders. We were listening to Fox Sports Radio. We're

1157
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: having some fun today. Welcome back to Fox Sports Radio.

1158
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,280
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1159
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:43,680
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1160
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: I have Martin Weiss with me in the update booths,

1161
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: but he's also my co host. I have Chris Purfet,

1162
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,360
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1163
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,120
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1164
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,360
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1165
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,600
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1166
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,520
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1167
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,360
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1168
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,680
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1169
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,120
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1170
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: and Sunday morning, right here on Fox Sports Radio and

1171
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. Now, Martin, we kind of gossiped. We

1172
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: we got a little you know, two girls. Espresso, Martiniz Caesar,

1173
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: salads and fries.

1174
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 5: Another blast of prosecco, please, Another.

1175
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: Glass of prosecco. Shall we talk about the Browns. I'm

1176
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: gonna need that other glass to say.

1177
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: Another bottle of prosecco please for the Cleveland Browns.

1178
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1179
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 4: When they drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round. I

1180
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: love how there's certain moments like because now in the

1181
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: last twenty years, we now kind of watch things increasingly

1182
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 4: as a group, right, Like, even if you're not watching

1183
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 4: something like one, if you're not watching it, you're still like, wait,

1184
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 4: what does happen?

1185
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: Right? All right, You're like, we're all engaging in these

1186
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: moments together. That is, honestly, that is social media at

1187
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: its best. For as evil and awful as social media

1188
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 2: can be, the social media is at its best when

1189
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: big moments happened and we all collectively get to talk

1190
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: about it.

1191
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 4: NFL draft definitely qualifies as a big moment. And when

1192
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: Tyler Schuck was drafted at like forty, people were like

1193
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 4: hm hm. But then when Dylan Gabriel was drafted, everybody,

1194
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: all right, hold on a damn minute.

1195
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: I literally go it on. I retmaded something and it

1196
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: was like, I like that.

1197
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: We all collectively decided that one still and Gabriel got drafted,

1198
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: Like we're like, all right, something's happening.

1199
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: This stuff is hit ful, exactly.

1200
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: Mander Barry, the GM of the Cleveland Browns, came out

1201
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: this week and said what we all knew, that the

1202
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: Browns did not go into the draft thinking they were

1203
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: going to draft two quarterbacks, and can I tell you

1204
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: my theory Martin so picking Dylan Gabriel in the third round.

1205
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: I feel like that was Barry and Kevin Stefanski's attempt

1206
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: to appease ownership, saying, look, look what we did. We

1207
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: drafted a quarterback like that, what else can you ask

1208
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: us for? We took, We took a shot. We feel

1209
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: like this guy is the fit we took Like, yeah,

1210
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: all right. So that was to Jimmy has Them, but

1211
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: then it's Shador Sanders.

1212
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 5: Jimmy hasm was like, hold on, I watched the Rose Bowl.

1213
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: Too, No end like this was completely driven by Brown's ownership.

1214
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: This was completely driven by Jimmy Haslam being like really,

1215
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: really no, we're gonna go and take Shador.

1216
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: Now, it is evident that there was a plan in

1217
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 4: the third round, and by the fifth round that plan

1218
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 4: had changed dramatically.

1219
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: Who does that? The owner?

1220
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: The owner is the only one that has the opportunity

1221
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: to override the plan going in and I really they have.

1222
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: This is my this is my whole thing about now

1223
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: the Browns quarterback situation, which does not it will not

1224
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: elect me, it will not allow me to buy Andrew

1225
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 2: Berry's explanation that well, the positional value is just too good.

1226
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Guess what not if you're the Browns, and I'll tell

1227
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: you why, because you now have five quarterbacks on your roster,

1228
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 2: not one of them is an immediate trade asset.

1229
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: Usually, like you see, what the what the Seahawks did?

1230
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: They drafted Jalen.

1231
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: Milroe, they immediately let Sam Howell go. Yep, you do

1232
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: not have five quarterbacks on a roster. But then you're not,

1233
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: like Joe Flacco has to be your starter because he's

1234
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: the only one right now that you feel good about

1235
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: starting tomorrow, so you can't trade him. The only other

1236
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: team that might be willing to trade you for a

1237
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: quarterback is the team that Kenny Pickett just came from.

1238
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: So Kenny Pickett's off the table. Then you have two

1239
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 2: untested rookies, third round and fifth round rookies.

1240
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 4: By the way, everybody could have taken in any of

1241
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: those prior rounds in.

1242
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: A weak quarterback class as well, So no one knows

1243
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 2: what they're gonna do, and they weren't picked for a reason,

1244
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: They're passed over for a reason. And then you have

1245
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: a guy that's completely hurt slash damaged goods.

1246
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 5: The owner shed Yeah, we vest that one up.

1247
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 10: God, they also gave up an asset for Picket too.

1248
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 10: It's not like they just got him for free, right,

1249
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 10: so they have something invested in it.

1250
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: They have, they have something invested in him.

1251
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: Again, none of these five count them five quarterbacks on

1252
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: their roster or trade assets. So you have now just

1253
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you already could never take advantage of drafting

1254
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback because you're paying to Shaun Watson so

1255
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: much money to not play for you. But you have

1256
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: compounded that issue by adding like a little bit. And

1257
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: granted it's not a lot, but like you said, they

1258
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: gave up something to get Kenny Pickett, You're gonna have

1259
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: to pay Joe Flacco. I mean, it's gonna be a veteran,

1260
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: a very reasonable veteran salary. But you're just compounding the issue.

1261
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: So like there, it's just so clear that Brown's management

1262
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: is not in control in Cleveland.

1263
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 5: And that's what gives me. I don't know if it's concerned.

1264
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 4: I thought it was telling right that after day one

1265
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: of the draft, shed Door said.

1266
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 5: Tomorrow will be the day, and then it wasn't.

1267
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't the day.

1268
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 4: It seems to me that he was getting very very

1269
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 4: bad advice, Like like it, he was incredibly bad advice.

1270
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: And I wonder had he been getting different advice, if

1271
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: you would have carried himself in a different way, and

1272
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 4: if teams would view him in a different light. So

1273
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 4: I do wonder, like when he gets to the league

1274
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 4: to the point of what Cam Newton was talking about,

1275
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 4: because to your point, there are five different.

1276
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 5: Quarterbacks in this room.

1277
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 4: You just outlined all the reasons why all five of

1278
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 4: them will probably be there.

1279
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, or you just have to go to

1280
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: literally fire them, right, you know what I'm saying.

1281
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 4: But you're not gonna win any any transaction here or

1282
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 4: there with any of these stubs. And so like when

1283
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 4: I look at shaudor like and Cam Newton on his

1284
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 4: podcast said that it's time to lead with the work,

1285
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: not clout.

1286
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 5: And then Shadeure saying to the Cleveland.

1287
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 4: Media on that phone or as soon as you got draft,

1288
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: he get drafted, saying I'm really interested to have the

1289
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 4: opportunity to show people the real me, Like.

1290
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: Why didn't we see the real you already?

1291
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 5: I hear you.

1292
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not dissolving that right, are taking that out,

1293
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: But I do think there is something that it was

1294
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 4: up until this moment. This are This is the first

1295
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: time in their lives or professional lives, that Shadoor and

1296
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 4: Dion will be very split, you know what I'm saying. Like,

1297
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: there's the first time they're not in the same rooms.

1298
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 4: It's the first time they're not working together. It's the

1299
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 4: first time that the people who are working with them,

1300
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, that's not the dynamic. And

1301
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: so I am interested to see how he maneuvers this.

1302
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 4: Because of all the reasons you do laid out, I'd

1303
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 4: agree with you, Joe flattgo probably is gonna be QB one,

1304
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 4: But I would I like this. If I was a sportsbook,

1305
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 4: I'd set the odds on Shador shanders potential like starts

1306
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 4: at first year at eight, and I take the over

1307
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 4: because the owner wants him. Yeah, the owner wants him.

1308
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 4: So whether you could play or not, the owner wants them.

1309
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 4: So it's be very interesting to see how Shador maneuvers

1310
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 4: in a position because the head coach wanted them before,

1311
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: right now the owner wants them.

1312
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's.

1313
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 4: Gonna be interesting to see just how that this whole

1314
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 4: I'm fascinated to see how this room plays out, even

1315
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 4: though I think this is a four or five one teams.

1316
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: To be honest, this was the only way I think

1317
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: that we were going to see the real schedure because

1318
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: if Sador had gone in the first round or gone

1319
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: in the second round and the way that he handled

1320
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: everything was rewarded like it's it's it's another conversation to say,

1321
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: how telling it is that, Like the NFL has a

1322
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: really high BS tolerance, really high especially like and if

1323
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: there's a BS just to talent ratio. And I think

1324
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: it was Marshall new House, friend of mine, former offensive lineman,

1325
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: that pointed this out, like that ratio exists everywhere. So

1326
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: the better you are, the more BS the teams will

1327
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: put up for you. Absolutely so, by the Chador falling

1328
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: and by teams needing him to kind of get quote

1329
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: unquote humbled, it tells you that that talent does not

1330
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: match the BS level that he comes with.

1331
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: That is I feel like.

1332
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: An objective fact at this point that he comes he

1333
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: came with a level of BS that would also be

1334
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: reinforced had he gone high. Now that he has gone low,

1335
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 2: now you have the opportunity to say, all right, yeah,

1336
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: put your head down work, there's who you are as

1337
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: a player.

1338
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 4: You don't have this all figured out right, right, And

1339
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 4: and I just and I'm not trying to I am

1340
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 4: not absolving him of any of this, but I.

1341
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 5: There's a whole lot of emperors. What is it the

1342
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 5: emperor new close situation with the people.

1343
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: Who are covering this on a daily basis, because the

1344
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 4: only people and I don't know, I'm not I'm not

1345
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 4: exclusive to I'm not reading everybody's stuff.

1346
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't have a clip bind a packet. Yeah, I

1347
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 3: don't have a pick packet, right.

1348
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 4: But I was hearing across the board, this is the

1349
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 4: first round guy, this is a worst and second round guy.

1350
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't until the two three days before the draft

1351
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 4: and I was watching Klein Coward that he had Lanceser

1352
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: line on and then Dane Brugler from the Athletic and

1353
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 4: the way that they said Shador Sanders was like their

1354
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 4: sixtieth best prospect.

1355
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 5: It just hit me in a different way.

1356
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 4: All but the entirety leading up to that point that

1357
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 4: wasn't the case.

1358
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: And it was in like a lot of the mainstream

1359
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: You're right, and like you saw the way that like

1360
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: Schefter and and melt kiper like lost their ever loving

1361
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: minds that Shador was falling.

1362
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 4: And that's because well this and the final thing I'll

1363
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 4: say is like people have made this out to be

1364
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 4: like there's some conspiracy. If Shador Sanders threw like Caleb

1365
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 4: Williams and ran like Jaydon Daniels the Tennessee Titans, that

1366
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 4: would have been doing the perfect time he danced up

1367
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 4: to the podium, and they would have all had legendary

1368
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 4: with the two exponent T shirts in the drafts, the

1369
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: talent ratio so like that, that's.

1370
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 5: Really what it boils down to.

1371
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: I said this with the day he was drafted, I

1372
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 4: think his talent knocked him out of the first round.

1373
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 5: I think everything else knocked him into Day three.

1374
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot more than maybe we'll get to

1375
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: it afterwards, but right now it's time for an update break.

1376
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 4: Jake Myers had a day today with four for four,

1377
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 4: four extra base hits, a seven RBI as the Houston

1378
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: Astros beat the Chicago White Sox.

1379
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 5: I think as far as it was eight to three, but.

1380
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 4: Again, thirteen total bases that is a Houston Astros record.

1381
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 5: Right now, the.

1382
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 4: Blue Jays have a three to one lead over the Guardians,

1383
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 4: and top of the eighth inning, the Rockies lead the

1384
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: Giants three to one. In the bottom of the sixth

1385
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 4: tied one a piece between the Red Sox and the Twins.

1386
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 5: At the top of the sixth inning on FS one,

1387
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 5: Marlins and.

1388
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 4: The A's also tied four piece top of the sixth

1389
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 4: inning there.

1390
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 5: Earlier today, the Rays.

1391
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 4: Came from behind to beat the Yankees, and like I

1392
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 4: just said, the Astros beat the White Sox eight to three.

1393
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: You have to repeat that, you know.

1394
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm doing a lot over here. I'm just

1395
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 4: trying to keep it all together.

1396
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 3: I don't believe you.

1397
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 5: You know, sorry, you know, you know.

1398
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 4: The White Sox also had these terrible jersey no just kidding.

1399
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: Bad weather throughout the country today. We had the Mets

1400
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 4: and the Cardinals postponed due to rain, and the Pirates

1401
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 4: and the Padres are on a rain delay right now.

1402
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 4: That game not yet called. And it's also raining at

1403
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 4: the Kentucky Derby. It's fifty nine degrees as a high.

1404
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 4: It's kind of a wet clammy day. And all nineteen

1405
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 4: horses in this year's field of the one hundred and

1406
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: fifty first Kentucky Derby sire to buy Secretariat in some

1407
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 4: sort of way, all of them descendants by him. As

1408
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 4: Carmen said earlier today, don't fix what ain't broke earlier.

1409
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 4: Later on, we'll have Game sevens in both the NHL

1410
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 4: and the NBA, the Avalanche and the Stars.

1411
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 5: Puck drops for that at eight pm Eastern.

1412
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 4: And in the NBA we will have the Clippers and

1413
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 4: the Nuggets. There is a team still playing in LA

1414
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 4: that until tip off.

1415
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 3: What everybody hours it's talking.

1416
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 4: About exactly despite that, you know at Kawhi Leonard he's

1417
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 4: out there and I will have that.

1418
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 5: And then tomorrow obviously for the Warriors and the Rockets. Now,

1419
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 5: Adam Aman.

1420
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to us. Now, we're going to bring on

1421
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: another dear friend of mine. He play by play EXTRAORDINAIIR

1422
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: for MLB on Fox NFL on Fox. He's the voice

1423
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: of the Chicago Bulls for hsn DJ. Adam Amen, I

1424
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 2: could introduce you in so many ways, Adam, and I

1425
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 2: could ask you about so many things.

1426
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: I could ask you about.

1427
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 6: You tell me what you want to talk about. I'm

1428
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 6: always great to talk with you, my friend Martin with

1429
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 6: you as well.

1430
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: Bright Listen.

1431
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 2: I could ask you about your baseball schedule. You just

1432
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: got done calling Brave Cubs Braves, and you are I

1433
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: could talk to you about the draft because you're so

1434
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 2: involved in the NFL. Obviously the Bulls have now exited

1435
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: the postseason.

1436
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 3: There's that.

1437
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm going to start with, Adam,

1438
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 2: because you don't do enough. Is the fact that Front

1439
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 2: Office Sports this Week released in an article, went to

1440
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: one of Adam's gigs as a DJ in Chicago and

1441
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: talked about how you are pursuing this creative passion of

1442
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: yours on top of your already insane schedule. I've seen

1443
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: his calendar, ladies and gentlemen, It's insane. He fits in

1444
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: time to do this at night. I've also seen DJ

1445
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: sets by DJ Adam. I mean, what is your life, Adam,

1446
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: and why why add to it in this way? Give

1447
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: me your DJ, your DJ shpiel here because I just

1448
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: it's so impressive to me.

1449
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 6: No, I appreciate you saying that it's just something that

1450
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 6: I did for a very long time. I started doing

1451
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 6: it when I was thirteen years old. My brother bought

1452
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 6: me a pair of turntables and a mixer for my birthday,

1453
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 6: Like real turntables, I had to go to record shops

1454
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 6: and buy viny old records from dance music record shops

1455
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 6: to be able to play across Chicago. I played my

1456
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 6: first gig at a club when I was sixteen that

1457
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 6: I could not get into. I couldn't get into the

1458
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 6: club myself. My brother had to drive me and walk

1459
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 6: in with me for me to actually be able to

1460
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 6: play the gig itself.

1461
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 9: And I played.

1462
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 6: I did weddings, I did corporate events. It was a

1463
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 6: job of mine for a long time. I did it

1464
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 6: in high school. I did frat parties in college. I

1465
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 6: worked at the radio station and did mixes in college.

1466
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 6: And then you know, when I was twenty four, I

1467
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 6: got hired to do this job on National TV. And

1468
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 6: it's like, well, you don't really have time to really

1469
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 6: focus on that. You got the career that you always wanted.

1470
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 6: So for ten years doing this job, it's it's it's

1471
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 6: what I was completely devoted to. And as you know,

1472
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 6: time goes on, you get a little you know, some

1473
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 6: some resources, you make some new friends, You're feeling a

1474
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 6: little stagnant creatively, and I thought that this was a

1475
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 6: good way to kind of find a little bit of

1476
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 6: joy that didn't have to do with doing games that

1477
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 6: that had nothing to do with broadcasting sports. It was

1478
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,520
Speaker 6: just something different, and I have a pretty extensive musical background,

1479
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 6: so this set felt like a really natural re entry

1480
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 6: back into doing something creative, and thankfully it's It's led

1481
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 6: to some fun events and opportunities and meeting new people

1482
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 6: and enjoying something that I really have loved for a

1483
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 6: very long time.

1484
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 3: And that you're good at. You're very good. It's infuriating

1485
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 3: how good he is at it.

1486
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 6: I will say, like, I wouldn't want to do this

1487
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 6: if I didn't feel like I was doing it at

1488
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 6: least somewhat well.

1489
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 9: It's a subjective thing, but you got like.

1490
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 6: Nobody wants to do something or devote a lot of

1491
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 6: time and effort to something that they don't feel like

1492
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 6: they're doing well. They're satisfaction in doing something well, and

1493
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 6: it's if I weren't at least decent added in some

1494
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 6: people's eyes.

1495
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 9: I wouldn't want to keep pursuing it.

1496
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 6: So I appreciate you saying that.

1497
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 4: I like how Adam has somehow lived every single life

1498
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 4: i'd like to live, but he's only a couple of

1499
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 4: years older than me. Well, because I was a kid

1500
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 4: yelling at the play by play, it was like that

1501
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 4: was all I ever wanted to do, was they get

1502
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 4: paid to watch the games. And then as I was

1503
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 4: like throwing frat parties, I would just be like, Wow,

1504
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 4: this DJ sucks, This DJ sucks, and now I finally

1505
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 4: find some good ones. And then so it is definitely

1506
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 4: an art. And so both both jobs are definitely an art,

1507
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 4: and I appreciate the way you do both of them.

1508
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 4: But I would say, like, what is definite question as

1509
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 4: a play by play guy, like when was the moment

1510
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 4: if there was a moment when you were like, oh,

1511
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 4: this is my And I don't even know if it's

1512
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 4: still resonation to say, well, this is my top ten moment,

1513
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 4: like this is my like this is my uh you know.

1514
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 3: Like life doesn't get better than this.

1515
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 4: You know, ball through Buttoner's legs or this is my

1516
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: moment of like this call is like the one that,

1517
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 4: oh my goodness, I got to nail this one because

1518
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 4: this is going to be living forever.

1519
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 3: I feel like I know his answer, but go ahead

1520
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 3: at them.

1521
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 6: I mean there, I've been fortunate because when you have

1522
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 6: a long enough career, you hope you run into a

1523
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 6: couple of things, and you hope you run into a

1524
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 6: couple of moments Like I got to call a buzzer

1525
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 6: beater in the National Championship in the women's Final four

1526
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 6: in twenty eighteen, and that was like one of the

1527
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 6: first big moments of my career and I had to

1528
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 6: nail it, and we you know, we had a great

1529
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 6: moment and we got to sit courtside for that when

1530
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 6: Notre Dame won the National Championship. I've called Lebron James

1531
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 6: buzzer beaters in the NBA playoffs. I've had walk off

1532
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 6: home runs. We've had the Women's College World Series, We've

1533
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 6: had NFL games, We've had college football, the NBA buzzer beaters.

1534
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 6: We had a game when the Bulls beat the Lakers

1535
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 6: a few weeks back or about a month back now,

1536
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 6: where Josh Giddy hit a half court shot to beat LA.

1537
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: Oh.

1538
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was the moment that we had to nail.

1539
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 6: And you know, I said probable possible.

1540
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 2: That's literally part of my fiances and lexicon. Now for

1541
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 2: like mundane stuff, we just imitate Adam's call of the Josh.

1542
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 6: And then and then and then Mazie the dog turns

1543
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 6: around and goes, what are these two people yelling about?

1544
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 4: Exactly what the Notre Dame one that was? I remember

1545
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 4: that one, Yeah, I remember that way.

1546
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1547
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 6: Well, I got a text from a friend of mine

1548
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 6: in South End yesterday because the Dallas Wings were playing

1549
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 6: an exhibition game, and obviously Rique plays for the Dallas Wings.

1550
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 6: They played in South Bend, and they played the shot

1551
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 6: while Rique was in the building. So, like, I had

1552
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 6: a bunch of friends of mine who were covering this game.

1553
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 6: Let me know that that's still that's that's what you're

1554
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 6: talking about, Martin. I think, like you hope that you

1555
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 6: get a moment or two like that over the course

1556
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 6: of a career that that sticks, you know, And now

1557
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 6: that was one of those moments that suck, and and

1558
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 6: that's that has very little to do with us, you know.

1559
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 6: We we try to do the moment justice and we

1560
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 6: hope that we do a good job so that you know,

1561
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 6: when they do play it in the in the arena

1562
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 6: once in a while or whatever, it makes sense and

1563
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 6: it brings back a good memory. But you just hope

1564
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 6: you're there when the cool stuff happens, and when you

1565
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 6: do it long enough, you do it enough. We were

1566
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 6: lucky that we get to be there when the cool

1567
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 6: stuff happens.

1568
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 3: You didn't say the one that I thought you were

1569
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: going to. What did you think I was gonna say

1570
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:11,919
Speaker 3: the Auburn.

1571
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 9: I was there for the kickstick?

1572
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were there for the kickschick.

1573
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 6: So I called I have a national radio called Chris

1574
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 6: Davis's one hundred and nine yard touch And that was

1575
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 6: the first like radio call that I ever had. That

1576
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 6: was like a big deal and one of those moments

1577
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 6: that we weren't expecting to be a part of.

1578
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 7: And then what happens.

1579
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 6: You know, it's one of the great college football games

1580
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 6: of this century, if not maybe ever played it all time.

1581
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: I know that's why I thought Adam was going to stay.

1582
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: But I guess it was radio. It wasn't TV. But

1583
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: still excellent, like just insane career already. But I do

1584
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: want to talk to you a little bit about uh,

1585
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, and because that's.

1586
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: The season that you're in right now.

1587
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: Your Bowls season is done, your football season is obviously

1588
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: the off season. But with MLB, the this year more

1589
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: than any leading up to it. I feel like Adam,

1590
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: there's been a push, like a marketing push essentially to

1591
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: get major League baseball back to the relevance that it

1592
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: once enjoyed as America's pastime. And it's manifested in so

1593
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 2: many different ways where like, yeah, you have the pitch

1594
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: clock now for the last couple of years, and you

1595
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: have like the Yankees getting their torpedo bats, and you're

1596
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 2: trying to make this game more exciting. What have you seen,

1597
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: as someone who calls this game and is so entrenched

1598
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 2: in it that Major League Baseball, whether as a league

1599
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: or even individual teams, are doing to kind of up

1600
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 2: the excitement level.

1601
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think first of having the Dodgers and Yankees

1602
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 6: be in the World Series last year, that's a nice

1603
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 6: start because you have two of the biggest markets, you

1604
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 6: have legendary franchises, you have stars and both teams. Otani's

1605
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 6: resurgence and emergence really over the course of the last

1606
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 6: five six years, but really what he's done with the

1607
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 6: Dodgers the last two seasons, being the first fifty to

1608
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 6: fifty guy, delivering in big moments throughout the regular season

1609
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 6: and playoffs last year, that's helped. That's kind of gotten

1610
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 6: more attention. I think Aaron Judge being who he is,

1611
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 6: having the type of season. He just did his eleventh

1612
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 6: home run already this season today, so he's off to

1613
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 6: a red hot start. He's going to be the captain

1614
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 6: for a Team USA in the World Baseball Classic, which

1615
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 6: is going to be coming back next year. It was

1616
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 6: a great WVC a couple of years ago that ignited

1617
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 6: some of the spark again for the sport. So I

1618
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 6: think leaning into the stars the way the NBA does,

1619
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 6: the way the NFL does, Leaning into stars has always

1620
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,839
Speaker 6: been a weak point I think for Major League Baseball

1621
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 6: because it's such a regional sport. It is so provincial,

1622
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 6: and that's reflected in how television is viewed, that's reflected

1623
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 6: in how certain markets are viewed. I think leaning into

1624
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 6: the stars, whether they're in a small market like a

1625
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 6: Kansas city and looking at Bobby Wood Junior, I think

1626
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 6: one of the top three shortstops in the game. You

1627
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 6: could argue he's one of the top five players in

1628
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 6: the game right now, certainly one of the great young stars,

1629
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 6: or all the way to the big markets like New

1630
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 6: York or LA or Chicago. Leaning into the stars, I

1631
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 6: think is something that Major League Baseball has done a

1632
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 6: better job of. It helps that they have emerg urged

1633
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 6: in these moments. Yeah, but I think leaning into the

1634
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 6: marketing of these individuals because they are so good, they

1635
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 6: do things that even with the athleticism as high as

1636
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 6: it's ever been, the velocity for pitchers being the way

1637
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 6: it has been, offense is higher than it has been

1638
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 6: in years past. We saw some low ps numbers in

1639
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 6: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, and now you're starting

1640
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 6: to see that climb up again. So I think that

1641
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 6: has a lot to do leaning into the superstars that

1642
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 6: make this game great, that helps we have some tonight

1643
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 6: we have Otani and Bookie Betts and Freddie Freeman and

1644
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 6: Matt Olsen and you know, like there are guys on

1645
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 6: these two teams are doing Braves and Dodgers on Fox

1646
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 6: tonight that we're going to lock in on and hopefully

1647
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 6: they perform on a big stage.

1648
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 2: Love it well, Thank you so much for joining us, Adam,

1649
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you soon. You are listening to

1650
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

1651
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: Again. You're not doing anything to incentivize me to start

1652
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 3: the show, and You'll.

1653
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,879
Speaker 8: Be honest, I almost hit haul of notes instead.

1654
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: Oh that would have been good too.

1655
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 2: It was going to be out touch honestly, Okay, that's

1656
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: I'm I'm like a sixty five year old man when

1657
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 2: it comes to my music tastes in so many ways.

1658
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: But then I'll also like bust out the Yan Yang Twins.

1659
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: I was listening to Italian techno music on the way here.

1660
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: We spanned the gamut.

1661
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 8: But this deal with his calls for then next week,

1662
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 8: oh some rush, Oh god, you really want to get

1663
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 8: in your touch with your old's with your sixty five.

1664
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 3: Sixty five year old man.

1665
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, gosh, that doesn't sound right speaking of middle

1666
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: aged men. How's that for a segue, Martin. I want

1667
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 2: to talk real quick, just about this whole Jeff Ulbrick,

1668
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 2: Jack's oldbricks situation. The math ain't math, and Martin, and

1669
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why so. Jeff o'brick, the defensive coordinator

1670
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 2: for the Atlanta Falcons. His son was the one that

1671
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: accessed Jeff's iPad somehow, some way got Shuder Sanders number

1672
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 2: and prank called him as if he was getting drafted

1673
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 2: earlier obviously than he did. Jack's the twenty one year

1674
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: old son apologized. Jeff Olbrick apologized.

1675
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 3: The league has now fined the Atlanta Falcons.

1676
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and Jeff Olbrick one

1677
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars personally. And the way that my father

1678
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 2: would have taken the belt to my you know what,

1679
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: no matter how old I was and I cost him

1680
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: one hundred grand, I would have been cut off from inheritance.

1681
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 2: All of that The issue for me here, a twenty

1682
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: one years old is old enough to know better me

1683
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: that that information that is so heavily guarded, and it's

1684
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: usually the information is password protected. You have to have

1685
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 2: a certain log in from a certain IP address in

1686
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: order to access it. All of this stuff because it

1687
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 2: contains really sensitive information about these prospects, not just their

1688
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: phone number, but usually their addresses, their medical records, all

1689
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: of that kind of stuff. It's kept under lock and key.

1690
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: So much of this information too, is kept from people

1691
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: in the organize itself. Like as someone who's worked for

1692
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 2: a team and been through drafts, we don't get the

1693
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: information on these prospects until like right before the team

1694
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: drafts them, right, and it's withheld from us. And I'm like,

1695
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 2: and we have a working purpose for wanting information like that,

1696
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 2: whether it's again like a phone number is something that

1697
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: would be really great. So you can get on the

1698
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: phone with these guys and be like, Hey, once you

1699
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: get here, we want to do this about this.

1700
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: That information has.

1701
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,799
Speaker 2: Kept secret from people in the organization with a working purpose.

1702
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna tell me a twenty one year old

1703
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: for S's and GE's decides, Oh, I'm gonna just take it,

1704
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I'm gonna just do a prank call

1705
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: with my friends.

1706
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 4: It also like the kids in college student in Florida,

1707
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 4: right who happen to be home. This is a phone

1708
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 4: number that Shador in his live stream said that he

1709
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 4: got specifically.

1710
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: For that exactly. That's the thing.

1711
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,839
Speaker 4: So without knowing the order of operations, it just feels

1712
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,799
Speaker 4: like the explanation this is what Jordan Hudson should have done.

1713
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 3: Just stick with your.

1714
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 4: Explanation, even if it doesn't add up, stick with the

1715
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 4: Just stick with it because nobody cares about this anymore.

1716
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 4: The fines have been done in Levy and so on.

1717
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 4: But to me, the mad ain't math.

1718
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: No, And I.

1719
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: Go back and forth being like, does should this have

1720
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 2: cost Jeff Ulbrick a suspension or something along those lines?

1721
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: But you are messing with this money and we all

1722
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: know that's the gret think it should have cost the

1723
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 3: Falcons a draft pick.

1724
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: I like, yes, something like like stuff I would I

1725
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: did as a team reporter could have cost the team

1726
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 2: a draft pick, So good Lord that this is deserving

1727
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 2: of that too. The whole thing is just like I

1728
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 2: think there's more to the story. I don't really care,

1729
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: but that part of it I don't care about. The

1730
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: part I care about is there needs to be more

1731
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 2: accountability on this on the on the behalf of Jeff,

1732
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: of Jack's and of the Atlanta Falcons, because this is

1733
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: very sensitive information that in a worst scenario, could have

1734
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 2: ended up so much like it was.

1735
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 5: His phone number.

1736
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 4: What if somebody found a way to stole his identity exactly,

1737
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1738
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: Well, Martin, thank you for doing this with me again,

1739
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: pulling double duty.

1740
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: You're going on the next show.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Thank thank you all for listening today.

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Speaker 2: How to play a great time, Fox Sports Radio,