1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Stanon scars, Big Nie starts, milana UIs and Halilanda starts. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Got the Big Stars, Gut twin feeg Tap, Sweet, Sweet Starvesgrit, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: shirus ah At Skott's gott first God's son six for 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: four in a front of the fun starers and true 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: len On the Giver put them to the chest, Little 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Alu of the letter Alex Star's got, don't you know? 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: And a long kne good stuff hard you know, Gusto 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Scott's God. Next in line, what's world? Turkis appenheigh six 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: or four? 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Don't you know? 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: When along Hange Samuel. 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: How you know? 13 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Or you don't know? 14 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Sam Or that's all right? 15 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: You're a six by. 16 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Doctor saving life, doctor Starzard, don't you know? And along 17 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: came the Hali Ho. This guy's god penny Wise six 18 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: big surprise knows Forracu of m Biro the rather stuck 19 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: on the lad and so there's. 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: A really spars guy. 21 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Don't you know? 22 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: When a long game? I ha? 23 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: How do you know? 24 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: Got a e HAA does into acting. That's why put 25 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: ten she's into casting, casting Skoy's guard, don't you know? 26 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: I all? 27 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: That's for your shows, bas are Auscian and Coloba and 28 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: the Youngest Stars, God's Truly Born and Tichans Day. They 29 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 2: have a Scott Stay, Scott Scott, Sis Sky Sti, Scott 30 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: Scot Sky's by Don't Jill Scott's Star Scott Stots Scots. 31 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: Good mornings, Sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks 32 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Tuesday, May twenty seventh, 33 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I want to give a standing o 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: to that cold open that was incredible on Jays skis 35 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: here in the Classic Factory and alongside me as always 36 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: task Scars Garden. 37 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish, I wish I was right. Let's talk 38 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: about basketball, the greatest game of them all and maybe 39 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: changing the rules to make it even better. 40 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: Oh, we'll get into it, We'll get into it. Next 41 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: to him, it's the Beard one, a top shot boy, 42 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: trick Herbie Hey, O, don't you know? 43 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Hey? 44 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Don't you know? And last but not least, over Yonder 45 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: making the magic like that cold open happen. Super producer 46 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: JD four hundred seconds to the topic. 47 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: The first topic Gon for their record boys. 48 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Wow Wow, that was gold though. I like what you 49 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: see what we've never seen before too it's new to me. 50 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: I had Wow, Yeah, I was gonna cut it up. 51 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: I was like, why Clay, It's perfect eight scars guards, 52 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: yet Bill was the last guard. 53 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm happy to know him all right. 54 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: On today's show, we're gonna tee up tonight's Game four 55 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. We've got some NBA headlines to dissect and 56 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: the prime moment of the week. It's a fun one, 57 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: but first let's talk basketball task. OKASE re establishing itself 58 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: as the NBA's top title contender with the very entertaining 59 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: one twenty eight, one twenty six win over the Timberwolves 60 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: last night, very entertaining for forty seven minutes and thirty seconds. 61 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: We'll get into the whole fouling part, but the Thunder 62 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: now lead the series three to one. Shake Gilds Alexander 63 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: forty points, tenn assists, nine boards for the MVP, while 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards on the other side held to just sixteen points. 65 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: He had very few field goals in the first half, 66 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: but in the end, Thunder get it done. Where do 67 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: you want to start? You start with the Big three 68 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: of OKC them shutting down ant other parts of this game. 69 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Where do you want to. 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: Go you have to start with ant here in the 71 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: semi finals, back to the wall, down to one in 72 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: a very very important game. He didn't perform to his abilities. 73 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: He didn't force the refs to make calls by driving 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: to the hoop. Of course, okay, see he's good swarming him, 75 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: but he didn't perform. He was not the Anthony Edwards 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: were all wondering if he will show up. He's twenty three, 77 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: maybe he will show up in a couple of years. 78 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: But this just wasn't his game. And I know it 79 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: goes hand in hand with Julius Randall, both those guys 80 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: not performing to their capabilities. Whatsoever. Randall way more turnovers 81 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: than Buckets, five to one, Anthony Edwards the same amount 82 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: of turnovers as buckets. It is wild that you mentioned, 83 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: you know, we went down to the wire considering those numbers, 84 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: because it is wild to think about what many did 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: end up winning in terms of stats in this game, 86 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: fast break, points, threes, they hit more freaking threes. Problem 87 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: was their bench hit double the amount of threes that 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: their starters did. Points in the paint. They won so 89 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: many of the categories. But when it comes down to it, 90 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: what Anthony Edwards said after the game was everything he 91 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: said quote they outplayed us, out rebounded us, got more 92 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: of the fifty to fifty balls, wanted it a little 93 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: bit more. Now, they didn't out rebound them, but they 94 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: did want it a little bit more. It's totally true. 95 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: This game had okay see taking twelve more shots in 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: the first half. 97 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Just think about that. 98 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: A team takes twelve more shots, How are you gonna win? 99 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: How are you gonna beat the best team? They had 100 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: eleven offensive rebounds in that first half to six for 101 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: the Wolves. The Wolves turned over twelve times while the 102 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: thunder only turned it over seven. Man he was playing 103 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: goods of shooting offensively, they're shooting well fifty and forty four. 104 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: But you just couldn't get down like that. And then 105 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: they kept fighting back. It was miraculous to see Dante 106 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: DiVincenzo and Nikhil Alexander Walker splashing threes to get them back. 107 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: Those guys both score over twenty. Jade mccanalid's scores over 108 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: twenty to get them close, to get them to a 109 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: tie freaking game multiple times in the second half. But 110 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: it's just the way they started and their way. Their 111 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: top two guys led their team without really leading their team. 112 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: That really came down to that. I mean, they just 113 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: they got down and they couldn't make up for it. 114 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: That's it. 115 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just shows you the importance of your stars 116 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. That's all that really happened in this game. 117 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: Minnesota got sixty four bench points. Jade McDaniels, like you mentioned, 118 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: twenty two. Rudy Gobert was kind of effective, kind of 119 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: sloppy at times, but one of his better offensive games. 120 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: I would say six of the Timberwolves who played played 121 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: pretty well. Mike Conley didn't really do much either, but 122 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: the stars in Julius Randall and Anthony Edwards twenty one 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: points on twenty field goals, nine assists, ten turnovers. You 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: look at okay see, I thought their role players played well, 125 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: but not big scoring knights. Cruso had ten, Wallace had seven. 126 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: Isaiah Joe did a couple of nice things, but they 127 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: got ninety five points from their big three of Shae, 128 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: Jadub and Chet. They shot fifty one percent from the 129 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: field combined. They had sixteen assists to eight turnovers. Eight 130 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: stocks for them as well blocks and steals, making plays 131 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: on both ends of the ball. And this is really 132 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: like the vision for the Thunder. This was a perfectly 133 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: played game for their big three. It's the most points 134 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: that any trio has ever scored for the Oklahoma City 135 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: Thunder and guess what, they had a pretty good trio 136 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: once upon a time. But Shay was awesome forty nine 137 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: to ten. I felt like he had the answer to 138 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: every Minnesota surge when they were making their runs. Jadub 139 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: was hot from the start, finished with thirty four points, 140 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: three rebounds, five assists, and three steals. I thought the 141 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: Thunder did an awesome job of running second side actions 142 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: for him that were occupying the defenders, which makes it 143 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: a little easier for Shae gets Jadub great spot shots 144 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: in the spots that he likes to play down the stretch. 145 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: It was just Jadob and Shay running pick and roll 146 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: for each other. Didn't matter who was handling the ball, 147 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: just mattered where the defenders were. They were able to 148 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: score effectively. And then Chet twenty one points, seven rebounds, 149 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: three blocks. He finishes the plays great cutter. He ended 150 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: up with a lot of dunks in this one. Some 151 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: big defensive playmaking as well from him. Just a great 152 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: performance by the big three of the Thunder. And nothing 153 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: from the big two of the Timberwolves. 154 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved you know, when so much attention is 155 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: paid to SGA and J. Dubb, it is paramount that 156 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: the rest of those thunder guys hit open shots, you know, consistently, 157 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: and they did in this game. I think it was 158 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: something like of Shay's tennis sists, eight of them were 159 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: on three pointers and the other one was chet Holmgrim 160 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: with his foot on the line yep so, which like 161 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: basically a three pointer. It was like a very deep two. 162 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: So so many of those Wolves load up in the gaps, 163 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: but he's finding these guys in there, finally hitting them 164 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: here in game four, because they they were really good 165 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: three point shooting team during the regular seasons. Is something 166 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: we talked about. At some point their threes are going 167 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: to start falling with some consistency and just yeah, methodically 168 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: played by SGA, just the perfect balance of scoring, putting 169 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: on the pressure and then setting up guys and man 170 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: J Dubb. I looked at that game as like a 171 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: bookend game because he started the game awesome for them 172 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: right came out scoring right away. He hit think you know, 173 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: he hit five of his first six shots, scored thirteen 174 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. A lot of those were three pointers. 175 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: He also had that very pretty left hand layup where 176 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: he scooped it high off the glass. So he started 177 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: the game great and then he ended just a strong, 178 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 1: huge plays in the fourth quarter for JDub fourteen points 179 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: on five to seven shooting in the final frame, So like, 180 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: awesome game from him. And then yeah, Chet, I mean 181 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: what a block on McDaniels. I mean that maybe big time. 182 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: That was a huge play in this game where there 183 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: were multiple just big plays, especially the Wolves, like you said, 184 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: they always had an answer. Yeah, they always had a 185 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: corner three, like always, and it was Sga or JDub 186 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: or Chet coming back on the other end, just to 187 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: give them the breathing room when you got down the 188 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: stretch there when things got tight, they always seem to 189 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: have a big shot from one of those three guys 190 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: or a big defensive play in Chet's case. 191 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chet to be able to cover that Jade McDaniels 192 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: drive spin with forty seconds left, stuck with him every 193 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: step from the three point line to the rim to 194 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: seal it. That was it. That was a beautiful thing 195 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: to watch. Has to be mentioned along with Jalen Williams. 196 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: Those two guys to support Shay Gilders Alexander were monstrous 197 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: and yeah, you went through some of the numbers of 198 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: their role guys, Trey, they weren't exactly needed when you 199 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: get your top three ballin' the way they did. And 200 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: so that was the huge difference that Gentlemans just came out. Yeah, 201 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: the secondary action and the open three point shots. He 202 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: was coming to play. 203 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: They didn't hesitate either of those guys. But you know, Shase, 204 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: he's the MVP. You're never worried about that. Jadup, no hesitation. 205 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: Chet a guy that we've questioned a few times, even 206 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: in this postseason run. There's been games where we get 207 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: on here and go like, be a little shook, the 208 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: light's a little too bright, Like I know this is 209 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: sort of new for him as hasn't a lot of 210 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: postseason experience. Not in that game, I mean, it was 211 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: like the confidence is just growing and growing with him, 212 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: like he's the one to me, like really blossoming, blossoming 213 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: here in this postseason run, even maybe more than some 214 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: of the other guys. And again probably just because he's 215 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: had less games than the posts. 216 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: The only criticism you would have a chat is that 217 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: he doesn't rebound very well, and you saw that happening 218 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter no Hartenstein playing, and the Wolves 219 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: started kind of on the glass. He's a skinny guy, 220 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: so he'd needs some help from the guards rebounding. And 221 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: that's why they went and got Hartenstein in the summer, 222 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: because they wanted to beef up their rebounding. But I mean, 223 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: he's taken threes when they're there. He is a good 224 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: offensive rebounder. Had that nice tip dunk in the fourth 225 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: quarter as well. But thirty four points combined from j 226 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: dub Shay and Chet and it's like you're getting nine 227 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: from chet Holmgren and he's barely even a focus offensively. 228 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: He played incredibly well. The thunder were smart to go 229 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 2: with a small ball lineup. It just makes it a 230 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: little bit tougher for Minnesota to keep up. And I 231 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: mean this was a close game. It was there for 232 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: the winning but still somehow Oklahoma City never gave up 233 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: the lead in the second half. There was not a 234 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: lead change in this game the second half. 235 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were totally even keeled. Chet Holmgren and Jala Wims, 236 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: who yes, I mean they've they've had a little playoff runs. 237 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: But they haven't had this much playoff success, so you 238 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: think at some point, maybe, you know, will it they 239 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: start to wit, Will the lights be too bright as 240 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: you brought up their skits. 241 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: But no, No, they're getting more and more comfortable. Yeah, 242 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: but I'm seeing through this entire pier And. 243 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: They had the bench chat three minutes into this series. Yeah, 244 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: they're like, you're not playing well, and they brought in 245 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: Cason Wallace and he juiced them up and then chat 246 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: has been awesome since the second half of Game one. 247 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Cason Wallace was important in this game. 248 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: When there's two broken plays and it's just a scenario 249 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: where Cason Wallace gets the ball, I mean he has 250 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: to be the break in casein of emergency, he has 251 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: to be and he did. That's what exactly he was 252 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: multiple times and offensive boards. He was just that perfect 253 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: throw that guy out there. He can be, you know, 254 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: the fifth guy on a championship team. He just was 255 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: that exactly in this case. Well, on the other side, yeah, 256 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: we can go through all the things. I thought Chris 257 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: Finch putting Dante DiVincenzo on Shae in that first half 258 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: was a mistake. Shaye loves that matchup, and he went 259 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: away from it in the second half, and it was 260 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: just Nikile Alexander Walker who was the best defender on Shae. 261 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: Even though you know, there's not really an answer for 262 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: Shay Nikile Alexander Walker, he will be mentioned again and 263 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: again and again that he is his cousin. He does 264 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: know him. 265 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean, holy man, Okay, we got it. 266 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody complaining, but listen, he Nikaile Alexander Walker. This 267 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: is his game of his career and playing the postseason. 268 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: That was awesome to be able to do that. He 269 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: was really good. I thought Donde de Vincenzo was. Even 270 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: though he hit those threes, he was sloppy. And so 271 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: they're looking for another point guard. That's that's what this 272 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: Minnesota Timber Bowls we'll be looking at in a couple 273 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: of months when we're looking at who they are and 274 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: what they are. They got to the conference finals last year. 275 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: They need somebody to replace Mike calmly in all honestly, 276 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: they needed a ball handler to be able to do 277 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: something to get into the lane, and Jane mcdam's was 278 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: chipping in. Nikile Alexander was their backup point guard and 279 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: I guess that's what the Rob Dillingham trade up for 280 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: him in the draft to get him was four, because 281 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: that was that was what they're helping. 282 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Especially that guy loads up on it, gets the ball 283 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: out of his hands like ant you know, we are 284 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: crapping on like obviously not a lot of shot attempts 285 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: and not a great scoring game, but a lot of 286 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: times making the right play. A lot of those corners 287 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: three created by him so doing that. But I'm with you, 288 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: like cause you know their secondary guard, I mean bullhandler. 289 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: It turns into Julius Randall a lot of the times. 290 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: And against this team it's like he puts the ball 291 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: on the ground jo Like, it's like they attack right away. 292 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: And that's why. I mean, he was brutal, very bad 293 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: in this game. 294 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: Head Yeah, give him a calling Julius. Yeah here, it's 295 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: coach Finch. I think it's kind of odd that you 296 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: don't play well in even numbered games. Feel free to 297 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: show up, not every other game. Okay, call you back by. Yeah, 298 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: he was brutal, he didn't do anything, and it was 299 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: completely taken out of the game. I do think it's 300 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: changed from his New York days. His New York days. 301 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: If he is playing poorly. He would kind of press 302 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: and try to get things going in this one, he 303 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: admitted afterwards. I was just standing around him, watching out there, spectating, 304 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: just playing for catch and shoe jumpers. We're talking about 305 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: the need for another point guard. Absolutely, that's true. Colmley 306 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: didn't really give him much last night, But Julius Randall 307 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: is supposed to be the secondary playmaker shake out. Just 308 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: Alexander and Jaylen Williams are seeing similar coverages to Anthony Edwards. 309 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: Look what Jalen Williams was able to do last night, 310 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: and honestly, look what Shay was able to do last night. Sure, 311 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: Aunt had six assists, that's cool. He had five turnovers 312 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: as well. Shaeields and Alexander had forty points and ten assists. 313 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: There's a way to blend your playmaking and your scoring 314 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: that Aunt really hasn't figured out yet, because this is 315 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: exactly what they did against Dallas last year. They took 316 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: him out of the game by throwing everybody at him, 317 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: by making him see a whole bunch of bodies in 318 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: the gaps, and he's just not able to process the 319 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: playmaking versus scoring aspect of things. I agree he made 320 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: some great passes to the corner, but those, like we've 321 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: talked about a million times, are the passes that Oklahoma 322 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: City wants him to throw because they think they can challenge. 323 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: Minnesota knocked him down last night. That's why this game 324 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: was close. But Ant's got to figure out a way 325 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: to be effective as a playmaker and a scorer at 326 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: the same time. 327 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: He even said after the game they played him pretty 328 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: similarly to how they did in games one and two. Okay, 329 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: see dud like loading up chet ready for the help 330 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: and him trying to just become a playmaker. Now it 331 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: was closer because, yeah, all these guys were hitting shots. 332 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: They were hitting all these threes. That's why we had 333 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: a close game, unlike games one and two where it 334 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: sort of got out of hand there and the Thunder 335 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: pulled away in those third quarters. But yeah, he just 336 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: does need of course, look was Shay with the Thunder, 337 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: I should say. Coming into the postseason, all we wondered 338 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: was will his co stars be there to carry him 339 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: in games to obviously go far in the postseason. And 340 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: they are. They're they're starting to like get better and 341 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: better in JDub and chat and now we see it 342 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: like aunt's gonna need that as well. It can't all 343 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: be ant like me. Do you want him just to 344 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: like start forcing the action and driving in there maybe 345 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: at times, maybe when you want to stop the bleeding. 346 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: But again, they were scoring. That wasn't the issue at all. 347 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: They scored a ton of points against the best defense 348 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: all year. That's a lot of points. They just couldn't 349 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: They could not stop them. And I didn't love his 350 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: defensive impact, like did Ant do anything even on that? 351 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: And no, no, And then along with the turnovers of. 352 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: Course though, Yeah, it was the extra possessions really that 353 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: got them in that big hole, these offensive boards, even 354 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: after missus, even after they were able to play good possessions. 355 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: You'd look at Rudy Gobert's numbers, he only had two 356 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: defensive rebounds. Is that Ruby's fault. Nah, It's not really 357 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: Rudy's fault. He had to go out onto the perimeter 358 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: guard guys. But there was a hunger level that was needed, 359 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: and I think sometimes it just comes from your best 360 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: star being that guy who forces things a little bit. 361 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: I think he needed to go and say, hey, referees, 362 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: call some I'm bumping into these guys because those guys 363 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: were swarming on him. There's no doubt he just was 364 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: a little reluctant, and yeah, it it carried over onto 365 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: the defensive end, mainly with offensive glass. You just can't 366 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: give extra shots. I mean, that's what that first half was. 367 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: They got into this hole, and yeah, you got miraculous 368 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: performances from three guys to get sixty six combined from Julia, 369 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: Jane McDaniels, Dantevi de Vincenzo and Nah, that's a lot 370 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: of freaking points. They needed to force a little bit 371 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: more from their their lead guys. 372 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: Their bench at twelve threes, like Minnesota should have won 373 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: this game. You ran down all the stats that they 374 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: led in in this game. The only things that were 375 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: really a problem were the turnovers, which were bad. But 376 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: I think Minnesota scored more points off of turnovers than 377 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: Oka See did in this game. Their two guys didn't 378 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: show up, and that's really what it comes down to. 379 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: Three did for the Thunder, two did it for Minnesota. 380 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: Game over m M. 381 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: I mean credit to dort and Carusoe for obviously containing 382 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: slowing down whatever, stopping basically Anthony Edwards, that's just complete 383 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: face guarding him. It's all effort, fighting through everything, staying 384 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: with an arm on him at all times, like it's 385 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: like we sitting here, go oh yeah, everybody should be 386 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: able to do that. They can't know. These are like 387 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: some of the rare guys in the league that can 388 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: actually do it. They happen to have two of them 389 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: on their same damn team. Dort does it, maybe gets 390 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: into foul trouble, It's okay, we bring in Crusoe to 391 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: do it even maybe even better. It's it's like it's 392 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: just embarrassment of riches with those two guys. And then 393 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: of course Casean Wallace even gets matched up at times. 394 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Now it's like this speedy little guy just awesome job. 395 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: Okay, but I think he would also say that McDaniels 396 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: is a great defender, right, Anthony Edwards is theoretically a 397 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: good defender. He's best on ball. People talk up Nikhil 398 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: Alexander Walker as a defender. They didn't have the same 399 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: impact that the three defensive guards did for Okay, see, 400 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: I agree they're a level ahead, but Minnesota should be 401 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: a good defense. Yeah, they still gave up almost. 402 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: One hundred and forty Yes, no, they could not stop them. 403 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, dag Not made the calculation, let's face guard them, 404 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 3: and that would allow the corner threes to be totally open. 405 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: Because you face guard them, you can pick them towards 406 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: the middle, and then those guys in the corners were 407 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: wide open and they obviously came through, but they just 408 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: got in such a deficit. This Minnesota team loves to 409 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: get down. That's what they did throughout the regular season, 410 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: and that's when they fight back. And you know that's 411 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: the characteristic of some people out there, it's my character trait. 412 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: I love getting pushed to the wall. That's when I act. 413 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: That's when I react. Maybe Minnesota wins Game five. I 414 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if they won Game five, but to 415 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: win three in a row, come on, that's goods way 416 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: too hard against this team that's found their. 417 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: Way, extremely entertaining game like one of the best games 418 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: like front to back of the postseason. And I know 419 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: there are a couple of good ones and Clippers. It's obviously 420 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: we've had we had some great Nuggets Thunder games like, 421 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: we had some wild endings. Of course, the Knicks comebacks 422 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: and all that, but it's it's on the short list 423 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: here of this postseason. I at one point, I'm like, 424 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're always taking our notes and doing all that. 425 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, in the third quarter when the shot making 426 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: was going nuts, I'm like, what, I'm just gonna enjoy this. 427 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: I just like closed the damn thing. I just like 428 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: rewatch it in the morning. So it's just so good 429 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: until we get into the fouling of three and we 430 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: can get to that in a second. But start random 431 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: notes here or anything else TK from this game? Do 432 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: you believe task? Like, do you think the Wolves could 433 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: get this back to Minnesota and it's over? 434 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: They're going back to Okay, it's Wednesday, Wednesday, thank you? 435 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's probably. 436 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 437 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: I just I will never never count out this wole team. 438 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: I don't I'm counting them out from winning the series. 439 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: It's too hard. It's it's too hard to overcome. You 440 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: had you had it here, you had it. You can 441 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: lose both games in okay, see, but you had to 442 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: come through in game four. And the guys. Did the 443 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 3: role players play better at home? Yeah? God they did. 444 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: They were awesome. 445 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 3: They were so good, but their top two guys were 446 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: not quite there. 447 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: They went thirty eight for eighty two from three in Minnesota. 448 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 2: They won one game in a blowout, and then they 449 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: were close in another one. Honestly, they're gonna regret this one, 450 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: is what it's gonna come down to. They didn't shoot 451 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: the ball very well at all in Oklahoma City, so 452 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: they need to play as well as they did last night, 453 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 2: plus get performances at least from one of theirs, one 454 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: of the guys. 455 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. It's like they both were 456 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: bad or quiet, I mean bad. Yeah, they were bad. 457 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: They were bad. 458 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: You can say it. 459 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: What else you got from this? 460 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: I liked Doris Burke's call on nearly starting World War Three. 461 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: I don't know much about history, but I know the 462 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: French and Germans don't like one another. And Rudy says Bonjo, 463 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: mister Hartenstein, have a little bit of that left handed dunk. 464 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: One of the craziest calls you've ever had. 465 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, going deep in the textbook, deep in the textbook. 466 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: Not that deep, No, no, not really. 467 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: This is a pretty well known throwdown. 468 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I will say Doris, we 469 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: we kind of we skipped over Game three in terms 470 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: of analyzing it, just because it was on Saturday night, 471 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: but she was bringing in that game too. I did 472 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: think there was an offensive rebound where Rudy grabbed the 473 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: ball and she said Rudy doesn't have good hands. Like 474 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: to come out and say that, she doesn't usually go 475 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: that way. She's usually extremely positive. So she literally said 476 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: Rudy doesn't have good hands. That was kind of surprising. Anyway. Yeah, 477 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: the whole French German thing that was weird, just weird. 478 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: These three are brutal. I was wrong. We had high 479 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: hopes for this three. I thought it'd be way better 480 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: and maybe it just takes time. I don't think so, though. 481 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: It just does not work Breen Burke and RJ. It 482 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: is like, I don't know, it feels like a March 483 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: game to me. It's just does not have the gravitas 484 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: or it's not as fun or as entertaining as I 485 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: thought it would be. So I'll take a big l 486 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: one being wrong on this one. Not been impressed by 487 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: this great group. I'm sorry. 488 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: It feels like a regular season game when you're watching it. 489 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 490 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: Well, one thing I was impressed by and why you 491 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: got to watch the in game arena stuff. I thought 492 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: their their intro video was awesome. I thought the Wolves 493 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: intro video is the cut, the edit, the pace of it. 494 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: It's good color they put on it. In the music 495 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: it's Kendrick Lamar, So the music is just good. That 496 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: adds to it. No, Young Gravy, maybe they tossed that, 497 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: they got rid of that, they dumped that. 498 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: How much Young Gravy we played in the Classic Factory 499 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: after yesterday's show, I've. 500 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 3: Got we got to know the gravy we're drinking the gravy. 501 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: We were listening to like sixty five different songs that 502 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: all sort of Yeah. I was like, I didn't realize 503 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: Glenn Powell was doing a Jelly Roll impersonation here. But 504 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: that's what Young Gravy is. He's too handsome to be. 505 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: Doing these songs. 506 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: Jelly rolls hot. 507 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: Jelly Roll's hot. 508 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: I will say, uh, I mean he's hot, Like you're 509 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: looking at me like it considering him handsome music the 510 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: music is Young Gravy's hot. You. I do kind of 511 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 3: like how every single team now in the playoffs is 512 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: bringing back all their old heads. O. Patrick Beverly was there. 513 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's firing the T shirt gun. 514 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: At least the Wolves legend. He didn't jump onto the 515 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: scores table this time. But yeah, they I like how 516 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: they bring him back. There's cool. It gets everybody going, 517 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 3: that's for sure. 518 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: Would you like to see the Thunder bring back Kad 519 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Westbrook and hearted? Should they be there for a possible 520 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: clinching game to go to the game playoffs? They eliminated Westbrook? 521 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: They ain't coming back. 522 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Likes it? 523 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about the best players in their 524 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 2: franchise history. I'm not totally against it. Nick Collison at 525 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: lest should be there. They shown that guy at all 526 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: yet No, no, does he work for this? I thought 527 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: I thought it was somehow an employee or an ambassador 528 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: or something. 529 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: I think he is. Yeah, maybe he is there. 530 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bringtons should be around Jeff Green perhaps, Well, 531 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: you know, you can go. He can be there first. 532 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 2: Like who's retired from the Kevin Martin? Like, bring back 533 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: Kevin Martin. Let's see what that guy's up to. This 534 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: is an issue. They're all still placed. 535 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: A lot of guys are still around. Perkins. Yeah he's there. 536 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: What else do you have? Random notes? Did you see 537 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: the free throw merchant guy with his sign? Let's show 538 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: it here? And this made me laugh? You know, Okay, 539 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: whatever you know, they're doing the whole free throw merchant. 540 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: Look at the little dry I hope his kid did that, 541 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: Like I just made me laugh. He decided to add 542 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: that in on a side insane chait too. You know, 543 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: they're trying to get under his skin. I appreciate that. 544 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: I respect that. We already brought up on the broadcast. 545 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Stopped telling us Sga and Nikile Alexander Walker cousins. Please, 546 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: we got it. 547 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: These guys are cousins. 548 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: We got it. 549 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 3: I hadn't seen that picture though. That was new, the 550 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: picture of them as babies or as like kids, like 551 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: the three or four, So they're actually cousin. That's real. 552 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: That was not a I that was a real photo. Okay, good, 553 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: I had never seen it. I was unseen. 554 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: Was that a new one? 555 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: Because they showed that, they showed the picture of like 556 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: their two headshots next to it. 557 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: That's what I've seen. 558 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it a ton of times, like a 559 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: ton of times during Game one as well. 560 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: Their currents. 561 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Like they're sitting on a couch or something together. 562 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they've showed. 563 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: It a lot. 564 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: There's only one photo of them together. 565 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: I hadn't seen it. Well, they were not a couch, 566 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: so maybe it's a different one. I don't know. 567 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: We'll see. 568 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: Probably let's get into one of the hot topics from 569 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: last night, at least on the internet. We'll use Sean 570 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: Fantasy's tweet here to get us started, because there was 571 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: this sentiment of the foulings up three strategy that okay, 572 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: see implemented in this game and successfully, if we're being honest, 573 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: in the end, it turned into a free throw contest. 574 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: Quote from Fantasy. The NBA needs to do something about 575 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: intentionally fouling up three. It's the worst possible experience for 576 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: end of game enjoyment. End quote Again, TK a whole 577 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: lot of this. Do you agree? If so, do you 578 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: have ideas to fix it? Or maybe you're like, it's 579 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: okay and in fact, we've already seen it this postseason 580 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: backfire on the thunder who did it in that loss 581 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: to the Nuggets where they probably did it too early 582 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: and obviously miss free throws. What's your take on all this? 583 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 2: I agree that it's boring, super boring to watch it 584 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: come down to free throws at the end. But it 585 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: always comes down to free throws at the end, And 586 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: my worry would be that if they get rid of 587 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: this fouling down three and put some sort of rules 588 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: about it about when and where you can foul depending 589 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: on time and score. It'll rob us of the rare 590 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: actual comebacks that happen in scenarios like this, because they 591 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: do happen. I mean, we've seen the Pacers pull off 592 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: three comebacks where they were down ten points in less 593 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: than a minute. If you're taking away they're fouling strategies. 594 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: Do those not happen? Maybe? I just I don't know. 595 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: There's there's got to be a better way. Should we 596 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: just get rid of all free throws period? That would 597 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 2: be the treath free throws? Literally, O body, but it 598 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: was annoying. It just takes the wind out of your sales. 599 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: You're like, ooh, is the guy that she's ninety percent 600 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: gonna finally miss one right now? Say? Did he did 601 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: miss one down the stretch? But then he made the 602 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: other five of six that he took. 603 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And of course you know they again diagnal leans 604 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: into okay, we're up three, Well, just foul nas Red 605 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: he's catching it. Just foul him right away, Like well, 606 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: we'll live with him going to the free throw line. 607 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: And then you get into like, obviously, then they have 608 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: to decide, well, when are we gonna try and miss 609 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: a free throw on purpose? And near the end they 610 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: did miss one, and you know, Sga got it and 611 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: then chucked it away and then the guy caught it 612 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: out of balance, and then they decided there was point 613 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: three seconds left. It was just sort of an odd 614 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: little ending to this game as well, Doris getting upset 615 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: with the guy catching it too, like he's Steve Bartman. 616 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: God damn both thrown to him on the sidelines. The 617 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: game was also over. But anyway, back to the fouling 618 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: up three strategy. As a you know, as a viewer, 619 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: do you hate it? Can you live with it? Do 620 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: you want the elam ending? Do you want to get nuts? Like, 621 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: what's your tape? 622 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: Well, if I'm in the league, I do think let's 623 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: call Sharif Abdurahim, the president of the G League, and 624 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: say we're employing this next year to give it a 625 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 3: shot in the G League to see how it works. 626 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: It will be sort of few and far between, I 627 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: guess in games, because how often does this happen? But 628 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: you got to give it a shot. I get it, 629 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: And what do you. 630 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Mean giving a shot? What do you think is the 631 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: solution to the fouling up three thing? Well, when you 632 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: know the defense is doing that because they have the lead. 633 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: The whole Nate Duncan suggestion that he was also doing 634 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: the tweets last night, and he suggested that if the 635 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: shot clock is off, that a team literally can't intentionally 636 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: foul beyond the three point line, and if so, they 637 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: get the ball and free throws shot sorry, one shot 638 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: in the ball. 639 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: That's what he said. He said to eliminate the smart 640 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: play of fouling up three is that it should be 641 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: one shot and the ball. If you foul outside the 642 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: three point line up three with the shot clock off, 643 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: that was neat idea. 644 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: I guess so. 645 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: So you were saying, though, try it, give it a go. 646 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: In the G league, that's. 647 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: What we do. That's what it's for. I understand the 648 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: NBA is looking at the NFL and saying, well, we 649 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: could be we could be more exciting than that, Like 650 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: our guys don't need to kneel at the end of 651 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: the game. It's so boring because the NBA is that 652 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: exciting minute to minute. Is it the most exciting sport 653 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: in the game in the world. I should say probably, 654 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: I would say so minute. I know it's it's like, 655 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: I know it's annoying. Yeah, like the most exciting sport 656 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: per minute. It's like asking who's the best fighter per pound? 657 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: Because it is. 658 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: Scoring. 659 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: There's a lot of scoring obviously, Yeah, and things can end. 660 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: It's not soccer that you can be a four nothing game, 661 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: right or you know, it's not football or a guy's 662 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: kneeling at the end of the game. So I would 663 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: try it out. It doesn't take away from these teams 664 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: coming back. I don't maybe yes, maybe no. I mean, 665 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: so that's the that's why we're gonna try it. I mean, 666 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: I have no real answer. 667 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: What we're getting out here is we just said this 668 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: game was awesome. It was for like forty seven minutes 669 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. It was like, this is an incredible basketball game. 670 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,959 Speaker 1: The shot making, the defense, the drama, the MVP on 671 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: one side doing all the other guys with all this, 672 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: all the narratives, all the stories. But then it happens, 673 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: and we've seen it happen. Is like these good basketball 674 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: games just get super anti climactic. And you said it, Tray, 675 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: It's like suddenly, just like can a good free throw 676 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: shooter just h his free throw and it's like that's 677 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: a skill, I mean, and he did miss one. And 678 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: also maybe as the defense anybody but him. You can 679 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: put three guys on Shay and leave somebody else open 680 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: and maybe you know whatever their strategy to it all, 681 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: and you can screw it up. But it's it's just 682 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: not as fun. It's just like go watch you know 683 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: how the NBA clips, like the wild ending to the 684 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: game go watch Last Nights. It's a ten minute clip 685 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: and the game time they show you is something like 686 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: two minutes because it's and this is them editing crap 687 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: out too. It took so long because of all of this, 688 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: because the foul the found, the fel the fela is 689 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: basically going both ways. So that's not that's not good. 690 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: It's not a good product. It isn't unless you're like 691 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: a free throw cicco. 692 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: I've only ever known exactly one. 693 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: But it's just not especially for casuals and even diehards, 694 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, we want entertaining, we want to 695 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: be decided on tough shots and stuff like that. So 696 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: I get it, but I like the idea of trying 697 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: one of these rules. Hell, if you want to go 698 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: elam ending. I think that has complications as well. That 699 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: could end on free throws too, and you can get 700 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: into different scenarios there. But I'm with you. Try stuff 701 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: in the in the G League and see if it 702 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: gives us a better product. And it does, then you 703 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: bring it up. 704 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: We'll be at Summer League most likely in six weeks. 705 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: We can try it there. Right there, it. 706 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: Summer League in six weeks. 707 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: My god, it's pretty soon. Nice days are long, but 708 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: the months are short. 709 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: Let's hear from you. When it comes to the intentionally 710 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: felling up three? Do you hate it? Can you live 711 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: with it? Is a lot of counters are like, well, 712 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: don't be down three. You know to the team, that's fair, 713 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: absolutely fair. What's your opinion on it? I know you're 714 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: letting us know in the stream team right now, continue 715 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: the conversation in the YouTube comments and you can tweet 716 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: out us as well at no dunk sink. 717 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 3: I don't like free throws, but now I'm starting to 718 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: think of the team that ends up being fouled. Like, okay, 719 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: see in this scenario, who are fricking money from the line. 720 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: But if you're an arena and you're watching the opposing 721 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: team go to the line. You're kind of excited. 722 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: You're like, all right, we're gonna make this guy miss. 723 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: You know that kind of it is sort of exciting. Playstops. 724 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: It's not quite like a Wedgie planks where the play 725 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: stops and you can just admire it. But it's you know, 726 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: it is boring. 727 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: There's pressure, it's nobody, but you're like, nobody's upset with 728 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: that part of the school strategy. It's the flip side 729 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: of it. It's the team that is on defense that 730 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: is up three points, that is like decided because the 731 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: numbers seem to work out in their favor, especially if 732 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: you have a decent free throw shooting team. Hey, instead 733 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: of letting this guy because all these guys can shoot 734 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: threes now and they're so damn good at it and 735 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: they can pull from thirty five, instead of getting Damian 736 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: Lillard or whatever or Halliburton or whoever, just follow them, yep, 737 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: And that's not as exciting. It's just not we want 738 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: to see the crazy Halliburton shot. We bounce up and 739 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: go in. They could have filed. You should have follow 740 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: the well, actually no, they couldn't down anyway. But let's 741 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: hear from you man, we could go on all day 742 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: about this. 743 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: Maybe they should. Maybe the NBA should just get more 744 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: lenient with giving players the three point attempt when they're 745 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: going for the foul, because in general, if a player 746 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: is going for like the intentional foul, even if they 747 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: chuck it up, you're not getting that call very often. 748 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: Maybe they should say, we're calling it continuation. 749 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: Go why do you say that? Because I thought maybe 750 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: it's a little body language doctor here. I thought that 751 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: the Wolves were a little upset with naz Reid that okay, 752 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: because they had a foul to give, so that thunder 753 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: foul I think they failed. Not is Actually then it 754 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: went back to nas on the side, and I thought 755 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: they were a little upset. The Wolves were like, hey, man, like, 756 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, turn and pretend you're gonna shoot at least 757 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: cause maybe you'll get the three point call. Now he 758 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: did it sort of at all, sort of just caught it. 759 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: It was a smart, quick foul. And then of course 760 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: we had the Anthony Edwards one where that one they're 761 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: bringing it up to court and they're like, okay, just 762 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: when he gets around half court, it's probably not gonna 763 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: pull from there. 764 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: Crucis are perfect, right, right right. Broadcast went nuts for 765 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: that foul. 766 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: Okay, here's another thing. If you want to like try 767 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: and fix this without changing any rules, these guys gotta 768 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: get a lot better at missing free throws. Sure, I 769 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: mean yeah, we have talked to Brent Barry about this 770 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: in the past. Years ago. He said that the Spurs 771 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: used to in practice, literally go through practice trying to 772 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: miss free throws on certain parts of the rim so 773 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: it would bounce certain ways. These guys are that skilled 774 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: that they can do that. You know, like, all right, hey, 775 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have it miss and it's going 776 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: to go to the right corner. So don't even pretend, like, 777 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, pretend to line up and box out, but 778 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: don't just sprint to the right corner. That's where the 779 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: ball's going. I mean, you could have guessed. Continue to 780 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: work on this. I know the ball has a mind 781 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: of its own when it hits that rim sometimes, but 782 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: they are that good. So, uh, maybe that's another way 783 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: to defeat this. 784 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: It's like, that's a great point. I mean, that's one 785 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: of the most exciting plays in all of basketball, is 786 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: the intentionally miss free throw that actually works out. 787 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you ban that. 788 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: If you ban this foul, that never happens. 789 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've seen people do the quick like the 790 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: quick one yep, off the front the rock. Sometimes that works. 791 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes they just line up six inches to the right. Yeah, 792 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: shoot it normal, you're gonna miss. 793 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 3: Oh God, great stuff. 794 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: Good stop talking free throws. 795 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: We're talking free throws. Two or four games after this series, 796 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: we're talking free throws. 797 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: Well, there's been a lot of you would consider anytime 798 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: SGA gets fouled that we're talking about those. 799 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: Although we did skip over miss free throws by the Timberwolves. 800 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 3: They missed six free throws overall and they lose by 801 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: two points. Rudy shouldn't practice missing free throws. He should 802 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 3: practice making it. It wasn't it wasn't that bad. Rudy 803 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 3: missed three of the six miss free throws. Random miss 804 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 3: one one. Uh, Anthony Edwards missed one plus another one 805 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 3: which doesn't count. Although you know the thunder didn't shoot 806 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 3: all that great from three from the free throw line either. Okay, 807 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: that's the. 808 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: Loneliest plus enough. Okay, that's enough. Thunder up three one. 809 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: Do you think it's a rap there on Wednesday night? 810 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: Or can the Wolves maybe give us a game six. 811 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: I had a. 812 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 2: Couple more uh yeah, little random notes for you here. 813 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: I like, Schegg, you have this Alexander going through the 814 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: legs of was it go bear? I don't know who 815 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: it was. If he went through the legs and found 816 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: Jalen Williams for a three pointer in the corner, and 817 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: he intentionally went through the guy's legs through the pass, 818 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 2: but also his whole body went at least like a 819 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: third of. 820 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: The way through the wickets. 821 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: That was an incredible play. And to keep his foot stationary, 822 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: the guy almost did the splits and then went through 823 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: the legs. That was pretty cool. 824 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: That was amazing. 825 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: I like that through the five hole. You think all 826 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 3: those Canadian friends are like through. 827 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: They're just naming goalies in the locker room afterwards. 828 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: V's brook nice Patrick. 829 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 2: Waw would you name goalies or would you name scorers? 830 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I want to Airlbatie out there. 831 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I wonder what goal scorer in NHL history 832 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: has gone through the five hole the most. 833 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: I bet it's Gretzky. I'm just willing to guess. 834 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: It was really a five hole guy wasn't going through the. 835 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just probably Gretzky. It's like guessing Wilt Chamberlain's. 836 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: Probably well, yeah, that's true. 837 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: Also, loud Door drew two offensive fouls fighting over screens 838 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: last night. He just he just goes horizontal. 839 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: He just chucks. 840 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: He just chucks himself horizontal. Very funny. 841 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 842 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 2: And then last we talked about it briefly. The fan 843 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: catching the ball on Jay Gilders. Alexander's like desperation heave 844 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: at the end. He's sitting down on the ground, can't 845 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: go through anybody's legs, so he just decided to chuck it, 846 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 2: and a dude in the sunlight catches the ball. 847 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: Very cool. 848 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: Stop the clock at point one seconds. They show the replay. 849 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: It looked like he caught it at point six seconds, 850 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: and somehow they put point three seconds back on the 851 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 2: clock and. 852 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: Never from what I could can recall, it like didn't 853 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: explain it at all, Like, yeah, they did, they did 854 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: discuss what they were doing, and they just decided on 855 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: point three. I mean, did they just decide, like this 856 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: game's over, but give them a chance to catch and shoot. 857 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: It felt like, yeah, yeah, point three is obviously the amount. 858 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 2: Of time not giving you a full point six that's 859 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: ridiculous because it's fan interference, but you should get a 860 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 2: little bit more time back. 861 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: It's felt like, man like, did we ever get a 862 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: good angle? Like, I mean, people are crapping on that guy, 863 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: But was like, did he really reach in bounds to 864 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: catch it? In his defense, I thought he was. He 865 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: stood up and then the ball was coming at him 866 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: and he did catch it while he was standing at 867 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: a bounce. Yeah, I don't think that's like, I don't know. 868 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't think he did anything wrong in my opinion. 869 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: You know I would have caught it. I know you 870 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: would have caught it. You would have caught it. We 871 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: all would have caught it. I'm sorry, you're not gonna 872 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you would have reached. 873 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 2: You would have reached courtword in the biggest moment of 874 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: the game. I don't believe that. I don't think he 875 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: reached on the court. I just said, Okay, so maybe 876 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: he didn't. Maybe he didn't theoretically cross that tiny line, 877 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 2: but he was reaching towards the court. If the ball 878 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: would have been a centimeter further to the left and 879 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: it was in the court, it wouldn't have been I mean, 880 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: it was a brilliant move. He absolutely should try and 881 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: do it to get it on purpose. I think he 882 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 2: just instinctively grabbed a basketball. See if I don't think 883 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: your I don't think your instincts would do that. 884 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: Oh I disagree. I know I would do that. Are 885 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: you kidding me? If I touched the ball, you right now, 886 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: You're immediately gonna catch it, Tray. 887 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: Not if I'm sitting court side at a game. Not 888 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: if I'm sitting court side. 889 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: I disagree. I disagree. 890 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 3: Well, he was standing new rule sit in your seat. Yeah, 891 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: that should be instituted immediately. 892 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: He gave the They were building a statue for that 893 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: guy if they had pulled off a miraculous three there 894 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: because he got them more time. Yeah, he did just 895 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: by just by catching it. I don't know what I mean. 896 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: Did it just slip out of SHA's hands? 897 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: Obviously he was just trying. 898 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 3: Great question, Great question. 899 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 2: Josh on the stream team, thank you for your super chat, 900 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: says people came complaining that the refs only put point 901 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: three seconds on the clock, but for some reason, no 902 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 2: one's pointing out that the ball was off. Rudy am 903 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 2: I wrong? Did Rudy go bar tip the ball when 904 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: Shay was sitting down because of me. It looked like 905 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: he I mean, he just rears back and chucks like 906 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: he's probably trying to chuck it down to the the 907 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 2: middle of the court, and it goes sideways to the left. 908 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: So maybe Rudy tipped it, Yeah, which means that it 909 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: should have been thunderball. 910 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: It didn't matter the end, well, did was it? Who 911 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: inbounded the play at the end like the Randall which 912 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: obviously came up a million feet short? But was that 913 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: tipped by Holmgren or did he just throw the worst 914 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: pass ever? 915 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know, no idea. 916 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, did they really show a replay? I don't know. 917 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember. 918 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: Though they didn't get there. Well. Julius Randall, I think 919 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: wanted to take a step back and get more room 920 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 3: and get a little bit more momentum. But that fan 921 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 3: was standing right behind him, So I just made that up. 922 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 3: That fan was not there, but Julius Randall needed in 923 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: that scenario. I think he actually should have taken a 924 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: little that back because you've got a seven footer on 925 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 3: your face when you're trying to throw a ball sixty 926 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: feet or whatever it is fifteen feet. 927 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: Well, at least give it some arc. I don't know 928 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: if it was tipped on. I mean, I'm guessing it 929 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: was because it was so short. 930 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 3: But then it's pretty short. 931 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you just flubbed it. 932 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, they were. 933 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: Gonna need like a basically just like chuck it at 934 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: the rim and hopefully somebody tips it in or you 935 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: hope for a foul. In that call. 936 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 3: It was fun to see Rudy fighting below the hoop 937 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 3: because he thought it an aloop was coming. That was fun. 938 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: Ye okay, what a game? What a game. Let's get 939 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: in a little Is this news? I got some headlines 940 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: for the guys here, let's debate whether or not they're 941 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: actually newsworthy. First one from Tim Bontemps of ESPN our 942 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,479 Speaker 1: guy Timmy Good Times. Aaron Ne Smith likely game time 943 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: decision for Game four tonight, task will start with you. 944 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: Is this news? 945 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: This is news. I think it's good news for the 946 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 3: Pacers for a couple reasons. Number one, your guys fighting 947 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 3: through an injury and he is going to play. There's 948 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 3: no doubt in my mind that he is going to play. 949 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: If you're his teammates, you're going to see him on 950 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 3: the floor of course you're going to fight a little 951 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 3: bit extra just because that guy is out on the 952 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 3: floor for an injury that he played through. Frankly, he 953 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 3: did come back here in last game. And the second 954 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 3: reason why I think it matters is because he's got 955 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: an injury ankle. I don't think he's going to bite 956 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 3: for Jalen Brunson's pump fakes. He's going to stay on 957 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 3: the ground. So Jalen Brunson call him a free throw 958 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: merchant if you want. He will not be going to 959 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 3: the free throw line because Aerony Smith, his main defender, 960 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 3: won't be jumping. 961 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: Because he doesn't trust one. 962 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 3: You know. 963 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: It's just like I do. 964 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 3: I imagine he'll be playing Okay, So that's pretty important here. 965 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 3: The guy is I Gues's kind of their life blood, 966 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: you know, he is their their bloodline in this in 967 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 3: this series. 968 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,919 Speaker 1: He had a noticeable limp in the locker room after 969 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: game three. But yeah, you know again these game times, 970 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: I guess his list is questionable. It's all the same thing, 971 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: like he's a baby here. TK could be the case 972 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: of just how he feels in warm up tonight, or 973 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: they could just be playing us and he's gonna go 974 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: like tasaid, and they just want to keep the Knicks 975 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: guessing maybe a little bit. 976 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: What do you think he's gonna play. Maybe he'll be 977 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: listed as questionable, maybe he game time decision, but surely 978 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: he'll at least try and gut it out. He came 979 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: back and played in the fourth quarter. Didn't look very 980 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: good when he came back in the fourth quarter. His 981 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 2: two shots were inside the arc. Now part of that 982 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 2: is because New York wisely was trying to take away 983 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 2: his three pointer. See if he could make a play 984 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: on a bum ankle. He didn't look like he had 985 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 2: much lift on either of his floaters in the lane. 986 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: But Nee Smith has played ninety eight minutes so far 987 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: in this series. He's a plus twenty and the Pacers 988 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: lead the series by a grand total of two points. 989 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: So he is super valuable for him to have on 990 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 2: the court. The game kind of flipped in Game three 991 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 2: when he went out with his ankle injury. Indiana cruising 992 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 2: kind of up until that point and then just couldn't 993 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: get anything going, couldn't get stops on the defensive end. 994 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: When he came back, didn't really have a rhythm. He's 995 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: also been the main bruntson defender like Tassa saying, has 996 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: it mattered? I don't know. Brunton is ten for twenty 997 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: against aaron Ne Smith, but he's better than Nemhart is. 998 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: I think Shepherd'll probably get the bulk of the minutes 999 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 2: that go to anybody outside of Nie Smith. Shepherd's given 1000 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 2: them good effort. He's knocked down his very few three 1001 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: point attempts that he's had. But of course you'd rather 1002 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: have aaron Ne Smith out there, so his availability, I 1003 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 2: think he'll be there. But what he's actually able to 1004 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: provide to the pacers we shall see. 1005 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And how quickly if he is limited, how quickly Carlisle, 1006 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: You're right, pulls him or goes to somebody else, if 1007 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: he's like limping out there and maybe getting exposed a 1008 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: little bit and just not giving you what we've come 1009 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: to love about this guy, like called the heart and 1010 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: hustle from Nie Smith. But if the ankle's not bad, 1011 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: you know, you say he returned. But a lot of 1012 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: that can be adrenaline in the moment, and then that thing, 1013 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the game ends, and that thing can 1014 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: swell up and be worse after the fact. I get you, 1015 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, he played in the game, he 1016 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: got injured, but I think it does change a little bit. Sure, 1017 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 1: I'll have to say, I'm with you, guys. He's gonna 1018 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: give it a go at the. 1019 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 3: Very least going to give it a go. He has 1020 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 3: been a miracle maker for this team throughout the postseason, 1021 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: shooting a Ridiculs was fifty three percent from three in 1022 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 3: the playoffs. I mean, he is bowing, so they need 1023 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 3: him shooting threes. We'll let it affect his three point 1024 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 3: shot and the way he gets way up to shoot 1025 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 3: his three point shot. Maybe perhaps, but he is just 1026 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 3: kind of their guy. He's an underrated guy, just not 1027 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 3: talked about guy. But you need him out there period. 1028 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: Next headlines. Sticking with this series, though, this one from 1029 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: Shaum's yesterday Tyrese Haliburton's dad allowed into Pacers home games TK. 1030 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: John Halliburton is going to be in the building tonight, 1031 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: but he's going to be in a suite. He will 1032 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: not be sitting courtside. Is this news? 1033 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 2: I guess this is technically news, and I think this 1034 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 2: is a. 1035 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: Fair slap on the Ris Pashman. 1036 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to say John Halliburton once again he 1037 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: missed eight games. He missed eight games. He's a player. 1038 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 2: He missed eight games including I will say two hugely 1039 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: notable Tyrese Halliburton games or the Big Balls game, and 1040 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: of course the Choke game. So I think it's fine 1041 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: he gets the comeback. Apparently the Pacers weren't thinking we're 1042 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 2: going to the conference finals, maybe the NBA Finals. We're 1043 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: gonna send this dat away for the entire time. There's 1044 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: no way they thought they were gonna be saying, go 1045 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 2: home for a month and a half, don't watch your 1046 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: son in person playing in the NBA finals. So that's interesting, 1047 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: but I think it works out fine. He's in a suite, 1048 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 2: he's not gonna be out there yelling at opponents. He's 1049 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: only going to be at the home games. This is 1050 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 2: fair to me. 1051 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: Okay, for those that don't remember, Pops missed the entire 1052 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: second round playoff series against the Cavaliers following an on 1053 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: court confrontation with Giannis at the end of Game five 1054 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: of that first round series where he was hyped coming 1055 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: out swearing at Giannis by all accounts, and that's why 1056 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: he got this punishment where he wasn't allowed to show 1057 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: up at these games. Tass is this news? And do 1058 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: you think he has served his time here and can 1059 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: now see his son play even if he's way up 1060 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: in the suite. 1061 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he ain't getting close to the floor like a 1062 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 3: good marriage. I think this is a good compromise by 1063 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 3: all parties here. John Haliburton apologized immediately afterwards. He said 1064 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 3: he would never do that again. And so the team 1065 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 3: goes to him and says, Okay, well how about we 1066 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 3: sit you in a sweet so that never happens again. 1067 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 3: I think everybody shakes hands and says, all right, that's 1068 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 3: a deal. We got a deal here, and I think 1069 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 3: it's good for also John Haliburton's wife, who I hope 1070 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 3: they have a great marriage together. But she was like 1071 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 3: right there when it happened. When she was he was 1072 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 3: bickering a yes, said goobo. Yannis came up to him. 1073 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 3: They went forehead to forehead for a brief second. 1074 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: She was. 1075 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 3: Slack job her mouth. John dropped. What is happening? She 1076 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 3: was wondering, And I think this is the best case 1077 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 3: scenario here. Yeah, he's handled it pretty well. I think 1078 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 3: I don't know John, Yeah. 1079 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: Ok, Jannas said, they cleared the air. John apologized. Halliburton 1080 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: Tyrese was like, yeah, me sort of like called out 1081 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: his dad to be honest, like it sort of stupid 1082 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: man bad look uh and then yeah again, this is 1083 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: not the NBA. The NBA did not say John Halliburton 1084 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: couldn't come. It was the Pacers themselves as an organization 1085 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: that said, all right, you gotta chill out here, John, 1086 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: waving your son's towel there. Maybe just take a moment, 1087 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: take a couple of games. But now he can get 1088 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: back in the building here. He will not be going 1089 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: to New York, back to Madison Square Guarden. He will 1090 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: not be allowed in road games. I guess you should do. Like, 1091 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: was it Bobby Valentine, the manager back in the day, 1092 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: got tossed from a game and then showed up in 1093 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: a mustache. Haliburton should try that, John Halliburton. Like for 1094 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 1: Madison Square. 1095 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: Garden, they do have facial recognition technology there for he 1096 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: got careful stolen. 1097 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: But could he just buy a ticket? I mean, I 1098 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: don't know, and not tell any of it, just only 1099 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: tell time, I would think so he could. 1100 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 2: Have easily been there. We have no idea they could 1101 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: even maybe they could have put him back court side again, 1102 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 2: just don't put him on the broadcast checking for John Funny. 1103 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: You said that I was gonna say, what's the over 1104 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: under on John Halliburton shots tonight on the broadcast T 1105 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: and T. How many? Like? What do you set the 1106 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: line up? One and a half? Two and a half? 1107 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 1: Like you know we're going to see him in the suite, 1108 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: yeah at least once? 1109 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah? 1110 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,479 Speaker 1: But how many times do we go back to him mountain? 1111 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: Does? 1112 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 1: Part of that depends on how Tyres is playing. He's 1113 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: cooking and probably see him more. Maybe he struggling to 1114 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 1: see him more. I don't know, But okay, let me 1115 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: set the line at two and a half and a half. 1116 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,479 Speaker 1: John Halliburtons, what do you got over under? 1117 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 3: Two and a half? John's I'm going under. I'm going under. 1118 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: Do we count the pregame? They have a short pregame? 1119 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: Come on, we should count those. Okay, you're going on? 1120 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: Okay from from eight o'clock hour until game. I think 1121 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 2: I'm under as well. I don't think that they want 1122 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 2: this to be the story. 1123 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: But TNT man, what is TN? T care? This is like? 1124 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: This is good. 1125 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 2: That's a good point. 1126 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: Give me the over, Give me three, John Halliburtons. 1127 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 2: Three John halliburtons. 1128 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 3: They got to show ESPN that they do broadcast right, 1129 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 3: because they're going to ESPN. I don't know, is this 1130 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 3: their swan song or is this their this is their 1131 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 3: audition tape. 1132 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: I already got the gig. I got sort of final 1133 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: headline here. CBS Sports gives us this one. Gary Peyton 1134 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: defends MAVs GM Nico Harrison after Luca Dante's trade Trey Herby, 1135 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: is this news? 1136 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, This is just a man defending 1137 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 2: his friend. Okay, this would be like us saying Matt's right, 1138 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 2: sometimes you should drive on rumble strips. Everybody knows it's wrong, 1139 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 2: but it's still supportive. I don't know. I think the 1140 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 2: most interesting thing that Gary Payton said is it wasn't 1141 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: Nico's call. It wasn't his decision. He made a decision 1142 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 2: on what he was told to do or what had Yeah, 1143 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 2: I thought that was So when we ever hear the 1144 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 2: full story of how this came about, who knows? It 1145 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 2: won't be for decades honestly, uh, or at least until 1146 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 2: Nico Harrison is no longer the GM of the Mavericks. 1147 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 2: But they've got a relationship going back. Gary Payton and Nico. 1148 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 2: He says that Nico looks at him like Gary's the 1149 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 2: older brother and the relationship, so of course he's gonna 1150 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 2: be supporting his guy. Yeah. 1151 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 3: I reread those words multiple times, thinking is he giving 1152 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 3: something away by saying he's the president general manager, he 1153 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 3: can't make the calls alone. It wasn't his call, It 1154 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 3: wasn't his decision. He made a decision on what he 1155 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 3: was told to do or what had to be done. 1156 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 3: So then I read into it. 1157 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 2: Maybe was somebody, maybe that's Patrick. 1158 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 3: Dumont or somebody in ownership that pushed him to do that. 1159 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 3: But then I say, it's Gary. 1160 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 2: Gary. 1161 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 3: He does like to talk, yeah, and he is defending 1162 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 3: his friend, So I think that's probably what it is. 1163 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 3: It was probably Nico Harrison's decision. 1164 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: This was on Gary saying all this and standing for 1165 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: Nico on the Club five to twenty podcast. Yeah we'll 1166 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,439 Speaker 1: shout it to Tigue and that crew. He was saying this, 1167 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: and the other part that Gary Payton was saying was 1168 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: the idea of like, hey, the Mavericks aren't bad if 1169 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: everybody's healthy. He kept talking about that, like, once they 1170 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: get their whole team healthy, Dallas is going to be 1171 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: a beast to quote Gary Payton. So he's like also 1172 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: doing like he's doing both things right, Like, Okay, Yeah, 1173 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: wasn't just Nico Harrison's decision to tray Luca? And oh, 1174 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: by the way, it's not as bad as you say 1175 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: it is or think it is. Even though he's wrong, 1176 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: it's still a dumb trade in my opinion. But he's saying, 1177 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: get all these guys healthy, they're going to be a 1178 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 1: really good team. So just wait, Yeah, you're saying two things. 1179 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,720 Speaker 3: And he also was defending Jason Kidd as the coach heels. 1180 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 3: He basically said, I feel bad for him, and you know, 1181 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 3: with Jason Kidd, I'm sure there's been lots of rivalry 1182 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 3: throughout the day. So if we wanted to call out 1183 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 3: Jason Kitty could have. So probably it's just Nico Harrison's decision, 1184 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 3: is what I'm and what I'm guessing here. Although that 1185 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 3: the five to twenty podcast great clip going around of 1186 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 3: Trey Murphy on the show talking to Jeff Tige saying, wow, 1187 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 3: is that All Star Game? I was in the slam 1188 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 3: dunk contest. I got to have my parents there. That's 1189 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 3: probably one of my favorite moments. Being in the NBA entirely, 1190 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 3: and then Jeff Tegue says, my favorite moment is when 1191 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 3: they gave me gatorade. I got to take stacks and 1192 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,720 Speaker 3: stacks of gatorade in my car. That was amazing, good clip. 1193 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: I watched that. Very funny. Whoever the co hosts was 1194 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: killing me in that clip. 1195 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, did you see uh speaking of gatorade? See 1196 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: JD McDaniels last night, he's I think he did the 1197 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: postgame press conference unless this is an older clip and 1198 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it until last night. He's sitting there, 1199 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: he wraps up taking the questions, and then he's like 1200 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: he literally picks up the gatorade because it's there for 1201 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: sponsorship reasons. He's like, can I have this? And then 1202 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: somebody says no, I's like all bummed out. All right, 1203 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: I guess I'll grab my own take it. 1204 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 2: Man, it's a lot of Gatorades for winners only. 1205 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: Also, but I'm sure that gatorade's been like it'd be warm. 1206 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: Why does he want the warm gatorade? 1207 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 3: Some people like room temp. 1208 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife likes room temp. Not gaaroray, but water 1209 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. She'll even go one step further. 1210 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: She's now boiling water to then put in her like 1211 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, in her cup, and then let's it cool. What. 1212 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 2: Wow, it's like to purify it. 1213 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: I guess. So he's like to get it. I don't know. 1214 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: It's not to purify, it's more to get it warm. 1215 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: She wants it warm, slightly warm water. That's like boiling water. 1216 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 1: But then you have to let it get back to 1217 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: normal temperature. Very strange. 1218 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 2: Everybody has different throat temperatures. 1219 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,919 Speaker 1: It's very weird to me. I'll drink a room temperature water, 1220 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: no problem. 1221 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 2: You're crazy, bro. 1222 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: I'd prefer a cold Gate ray to a room temperature 1223 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: Gaate ray. 1224 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 3: Well you do a Roy Hibbert chug of a room 1225 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,439 Speaker 3: temp water like he did on that show. 1226 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,959 Speaker 1: Yes, tougher to chug of cold water, so yes, I will. 1227 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's a great debate room temp versus colded drinks. 1228 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 3: I'm a room I'm a room temper so okay. 1229 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm more on the room tamp side too. 1230 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: Actually, you're on an airplane, they're coming around with water. Yeah, 1231 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: you asking for cubes or no. 1232 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 3: I was on an airplane the other day. Got a 1233 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 3: club soda ice or no ice? Yes, please, I did, 1234 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 3: I did get it? I did, I didn't get I 1235 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 3: did get Okay, yeah, well you get more water that 1236 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 3: way ice gets to melt, you get melted ice. I 1237 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 3: do like chop ice, big chomps, big time chopping. 1238 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: Wait, what about you on an airplane? 1239 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 2: Airplane, I'm trying to get everything out of that price 1240 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,919 Speaker 2: that I'm paying. Sure, so you better give me some ice, 1241 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 2: and I want the the can of ginger ale on 1242 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 2: the side as well. You're going to an old school 1243 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,919 Speaker 2: malt shop and you give me the thing, you mix 1244 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 2: my shake up and. 1245 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,959 Speaker 1: Oh you're you're a past me the can like because 1246 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: you know they ginger Wow, they'll get it. They'll give 1247 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: it to you. But that's yeah, that's a nice bold move. 1248 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 1: But the can I paid for that. All right. Let's 1249 00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 1: get into the prime moment of the week. Prime moment 1250 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 1: of the week. If you've ever questioned whether Timothy Chalomey 1251 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 1: was a true Knicks fan. 1252 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 3: Just stop. 1253 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: This dude bleeds orange and blue. Baby. On Sunday, the 1254 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: Oscar nominated actor traveled to Indiana to watch his Knicks 1255 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: take on the Pacers in Game three. Look at this 1256 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: look from Shalo May. He showed up looking like the. 1257 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 3: Bad boy of bowling. 1258 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Pete Webber. Shout out to Rick Kenmore, 1259 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 1: who was doing a Pete Webber. 1260 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 3: Who do you think you are? I wonka? 1261 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: My god, what I'll look from Chalo May so props 1262 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 1: to him for supporting his team. 1263 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 3: He's on his chain. 1264 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, he truly is. Though I was thinking about this. 1265 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: He's like our new age Jack Nicholson. This guy, like 1266 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: this young popular actor that loves his team. Jack had 1267 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 1: the Lakers and Chala May's got the Knicks. Man. Props 1268 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: to this guy. 1269 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 2: Come on, no dunk, Chalomey, he would be awesome. I 1270 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 2: would love to talk to that guy. Think guy's a 1271 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: fascinating character. And you're right, we need this like you 1272 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 2: think the biggest court side fans and it's Jack Nicholson. 1273 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 2: Who is is he needed his eighties probably at this 1274 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 2: point Spike Lee is older now, Jimmy Goldstein notable. Yes, 1275 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 2: he is the combined ages of Spike Lee and Jack Nicholson. 1276 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 2: We need some young blood on the sideline. If this 1277 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 2: guy's going. He went to Detroit for a game, He 1278 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 2: went to Indiana for a game. He will legitimately travel 1279 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 2: to see his next play. 1280 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: I love it. Respect. The Prime Moment of the Week 1281 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: is presented by Amazon Prime, from streaming to shopping. It's 1282 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: on Prime. Visit Amazon dot Com slash Prime to get 1283 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: more out of whatever you're into. Good stuff, Charlamagne, Yes, open, 1284 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: invite to come on. No dunks, all right, we'll call 1285 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: it there. Great stuff from the stream team here this morning. 1286 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: Heated debates about the game and that series and obviously 1287 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: the fouling up three dilemma and all of our is 1288 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: this news topics love to see it. 1289 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 2: Sixty nine percent of people say they would have caught 1290 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 2: that ball. 1291 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. That's very nice. That's I agree. 1292 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: I agree, and I would love to see where's the 1293 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: hawkeye camera on this guy? NBA was did he cross 1294 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: the plane? Because I think he did. That's a different conversation. 1295 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm with you, but I thought that thing was coming 1296 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: at him. He also thought the game was over, as. 1297 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 2: Everybody, Yes, yes, you keep it. 1298 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: That'd be awesome, all right. Hit the like button subscribe 1299 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: if you thought this was a classic podcast listeners, five 1300 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: star ratings and reviews. We're back tomorrow morning at ten 1301 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: am Eastern from the Classic Factory here to talk about 1302 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: hopefully another entertaining game in that Austin awesome Eastern Conference 1303 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: Finals between the Pacers and Nicks. Well, shallam may be 1304 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: there again? And did he leave? Did he just go 1305 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,959 Speaker 1: to Saint Elmo's steakhouse? Has he just been living there? 1306 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 2: What did Timmy Shallamaye do in Indianapolis. 1307 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 3: For a night? 1308 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: Or did he or did he's maybe I don't know, 1309 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: go somewhere and come back. 1310 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 2: He probably went somewhere and came back. 1311 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Spike was not there in game three? 1312 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 2: Was he? 1313 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: He's been super seded? 1314 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 2: He's anymore? 1315 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 3: I bocha? 1316 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:05,479 Speaker 2: Was there? 1317 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 3: Was it the nixt He had a quick view of 1318 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 3: him on the baseline, but. 1319 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: They're super fit. I guess you support the boys. 1320 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 3: And his standard seat he doesn't sit, you know, sideline, 1321 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 3: he says, baseline He had the same seats. 1322 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 1: Interesting, I didn't see him. 1323 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good India or the next that was 1324 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 3: one of them? Got I'm pretty sure it is India. 1325 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: Well, we'll be back tomorrow to talk about tonight's game. 1326 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's another great one. Till Dan Clipper Rose you 1327 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: heard it here first. 1328 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome. 1329 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember airplaning. Airplane ice is 1330 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 3: not sketchy. JJ Lynch. JJ Lynch on the stream team 1331 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 3: says airplane ice is sketchy. Okay, I disagree. It's just ice. 1332 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: Airplane ice is ground ice just put onto an airplane, 1333 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: is it not? 1334 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 2: You think it's frozen on the ground. 1335 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they're making the ice up there, but 1336 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea that actually. 1337 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 2: How would they do it. There's no way to do it. 1338 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: If you're a steward. Stewardess, let us know, do you 1339 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: make the ice in the sky or do you just 1340 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: put it on, which is what I think you do. 1341 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 2: You think that sometimes that's why the plane is delayed 1342 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 2: at the end, Frank, can you run at the store 1343 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 2: and grab a back of the we gotta fly an 1344 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 2: hour and a half here. They're like, there's a few 1345 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 2: plane malfunctions here, we gotta update your wings. 1346 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know it's a co captain's 1347 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 1: job to grab the ice and grab the ice. I 1348 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: embrace the people