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Speaker 1: Drink up Mother? Would it good? Be? Hopefully the super
Speaker 1: This is your boy in R? What up is d
Speaker 1: J e f And this is Drink Champs. You have
Speaker 1: to make up? And these brothers that we have standing
Speaker 1: in front of us, is I would like to say
Speaker 1: the blueprint that me and e f N wanted to
Speaker 1: uh live out, meaning we wanted our culture to speak
Speaker 1: for our culture and people that played the game, people
Speaker 1: that was in the locker rooms, people that was you know,
Speaker 1: this is a real DJ, Like people don't know that
Speaker 1: he's a vn neal DJ, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people don't know that, and we
Speaker 1: wanted so when I look at these these four brothers,
Speaker 1: even though three of them showed up and I looked
Speaker 1: and when I look at the at the chemistry and
Speaker 1: you know, the different worlds these brothers come from. They
Speaker 1: sit down and I got to see the Rick Ross clips.
Speaker 1: I got to see, uh, and I've seen them social distance.
Speaker 1: I see them with they got people making a food man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know the one athletes show us in the
Speaker 1: field off top off top. What made you four brothers
Speaker 1: say you know what? Because you could have actually did
Speaker 1: a show by yourself. You could have did a show
Speaker 1: by yourself. You could have did the show and you know,
Speaker 1: he could have did the show by yourself. But what
Speaker 1: made y'all say you know what? Because that is like
Speaker 1: humbling you know what I'm saying? Um that that your brothers.
Speaker 1: What made y'all say that you're gonna do that together? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So you call it what quarantine dreams and I'll pitch
Speaker 1: you to the quick. But uh, we all live in
Speaker 1: the same neighborhood. And when when you know, back in
Speaker 1: March and everything was locked down, I mean we walking
Speaker 1: around each other in the neighborhood. He might be on
Speaker 1: his bike or riding by. What's up and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this situation like man, like I got legends in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood and this is just a couple of us.
Speaker 1: We're talking about everybody living in our neighborhood, and like,
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for us to start a podcast,
Speaker 1: started show and see what we can do. So it
Speaker 1: really was what France say, quarantine dreams or it's like
Speaker 1: we're sitting here, we ain't doing that, and we all
Speaker 1: saying neighborhood. If we are biden by CDC guy lines
Speaker 1: we quarantine, let's see, let's give it a shot. Ye
Speaker 1: Be pulled up to the crib one night. It was
Speaker 1: it was all social distancing. You even did an episode
Speaker 1: where you'all was like, yea, that was at the beginning.
Speaker 1: They are always gonna paint a picture at you if
Speaker 1: you're sucking up. So he was trying to get that right.
Speaker 1: But Be pulled up to the crib on his golf cart.
Speaker 1: You still got that cart brout there. This neighborhood sounds rich.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, bro, what do you think about the podcast?
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you don't them down, what's up? Whatever?
Speaker 1: He saying, who do you think we should use? I said,
Speaker 1: ship Reggie right here, Reggie Wayne right across the street
Speaker 1: from He was like, he said, I'm gonna bringing in
Speaker 1: Channing and let's do it. Let's meet in a week
Speaker 1: or two. Let me button it up real quick. Next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, we had the facility, House of Athletes, the
Speaker 1: old building, and then and ship we just started taping
Speaker 1: and the rest is history because because because you know
Speaker 1: what it is. Um, I remember me growing up right
Speaker 1: and me actually thinking g rap Big Daddy, Kane and
Speaker 1: Rock Kim all hangs out again, right, and then it's
Speaker 1: the same thing with sports, like you would kick, like
Speaker 1: you know, when you guys are on the same team,
Speaker 1: most of the guys get along with each other. But
Speaker 1: then when you dig deep, well it's like everyone is human.
Speaker 1: So so, um, is that something that you guys for
Speaker 1: friends prior to this or like it's dudes like you
Speaker 1: just like you said, all rappers don't really vibe. So
Speaker 1: do we jump around teams seeing the team and you're
Speaker 1: getting on a team with you know, sixty dude with
Speaker 1: a practice and all that ship and all the nig
Speaker 1: don't vibe. Like you know, I'm saying, people don't. People
Speaker 1: just don't get alone. I'm sorry, is that just shot
Speaker 1: to kill it though? Because that looks like a regular dream.
Speaker 1: I gonna lie right now. I'm gonna because I hold
Speaker 1: I got to sleep, I got to sleep. I gotta
Speaker 1: let you do. I gotta let you finish. But hold on,
Speaker 1: let me just say, let me just say something. So
Speaker 1: you said you're simple to kill a bird like that
Speaker 1: and you trace it with the bear. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: That's a good man. That's a good minute. You know
Speaker 1: how to drink, man, let's drinking over there smoking. But damn,
Speaker 1: I gotta let um because your shott do shots when
Speaker 1: you even forever, you do shots if you're drinking to
Speaker 1: kill you. Okay, cool, we're gonna look Michael Jordan live.
Speaker 1: You know we got the other black on to killer,
Speaker 1: got the pup daddy killer? Ever you guys quick, what
Speaker 1: happened to the bell and ship man? The bell is
Speaker 1: supposed to have coming for you? Okay, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, like, dude, ready on five like that
Speaker 1: people thinking team like it's a high school team. Many
Speaker 1: ain't like that, bro, People go their separate ways. Dude,
Speaker 1: be forty on the forty year old. Y'all all got
Speaker 1: the same ship like running the streets and one dude
Speaker 1: got seven kids. So as soon as B Marsh came
Speaker 1: on the team, me and B Marsh bonded back from
Speaker 1: Miami two thousand and eleven. Yeah, as soon as I
Speaker 1: because Fred before me at Florida. But you always got
Speaker 1: that gate of love with both of the U L
Speaker 1: soon as me and Fred first time we saw each
Speaker 1: other went up and game that gate of love, and
Speaker 1: I just that was dude, grass up on you got
Speaker 1: me one time you come out in the preseason because
Speaker 1: you told me I shouldn't be hitting that hard in
Speaker 1: the preseason. Your back. But that long story short o
Speaker 1: O g no o g real no real. So as
Speaker 1: soon as you walk in that locker room when you
Speaker 1: come from another team, you walk in and look how
Speaker 1: to do move? You know that's to do that fool
Speaker 1: with you know, that's a great that's a great. You
Speaker 1: just gave me a great question because you know, being
Speaker 1: an athlete is different meeting like like I could get
Speaker 1: dropped from a record label or I could they could
Speaker 1: let me go, but then I might have a choice
Speaker 1: of where to go. Like with y'all, y'all thing, like
Speaker 1: you could just wake up and being Minnesota tomorrow or
Speaker 1: and then what happens if Okay, let me ask me
Speaker 1: to me ask a better question, because I got you
Speaker 1: ever had a beat for the team and then wind
Speaker 1: up being on that guy is Brandy to answer this question?
Speaker 1: Because that motherucker's on four h nineties seventeen the Jets.
Speaker 1: The Jett happen. I was mad. Yeah, well, so you know,
Speaker 1: you're right. There's a lot of guys like man I
Speaker 1: found out, you know, I was traded on Twitter or Instagram.
Speaker 1: That happened every single day for me. People knew that,
Speaker 1: you know, they had to check with me first, because
Speaker 1: like I was just a little different, like I wish
Speaker 1: back then, you know, I understood the magnitude who do
Speaker 1: you mean exactly? Owners, general managers, because for me, football
Speaker 1: was personal where I came for. I come from Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and it's the poorest county in Pennsylvania, so that was
Speaker 1: my way out. So I never understood the business side
Speaker 1: of it. It was like if something happened on the
Speaker 1: football field, in the locker room, it was like war,
Speaker 1: Like you're taking food off my my you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, from my table. So I didn't handle things
Speaker 1: in the professional matter or a diplomatic way, so teams knew.
Speaker 1: So there would be teams I want to call and
Speaker 1: trade for me, and I would tell them, like even
Speaker 1: even the team was trying to trade me, I would
Speaker 1: tell him like, here's the three teams I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, for example, called and they wanted to offer
Speaker 1: me five million dollars pass what market was, and I said,
Speaker 1: I will retire before I come play for the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So like no, So it's
Speaker 1: both into the spectrum where you got guys who find
Speaker 1: out that they was traded and they're going to another
Speaker 1: team on Instagram and Twitter, and then you got some
Speaker 1: guys who dictate. Right. So when I went to the Jets,
Speaker 1: that was intentional. I wanted to go to the Jet
Speaker 1: that mixed much for you know, it was my life
Speaker 1: belong Jet fan. You know. I remember your point. The
Speaker 1: other day, I spoke to one of my father's friends
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, man, my father made me
Speaker 1: a Jet fan. Like he was like, your father was
Speaker 1: never a Jet fan. That was the cheaper jersey. I
Speaker 1: kind of think about my father's jee game. He just
Speaker 1: like Giants right there, Jianets hold team so he just
Speaker 1: went with the Jeticehi his chief gonna speak to him
Speaker 1: when he go to hell when you sing the Jets,
Speaker 1: because when you said Jets, like oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you gave us whole I was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: was asking it from New York, like why you choose
Speaker 1: the Jets, why you choose the Giant? So that's it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was actually something subconscious. My father was
Speaker 1: giving me Jet jersey, so I just wanted my and
Speaker 1: to the other day that look, let me ask was
Speaker 1: there Davis? Was there? Yeah, Well, let me ask you
Speaker 1: about some current like the current events. You're keeping up
Speaker 1: with the Jets now? No, because we've been doing Harbor
Speaker 1: so long. I just don't expect us to do Are
Speaker 1: we doing good as you're like? I wanted to still Hell, No,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to get to, you know, ask you
Speaker 1: about you know, they're supposed to get the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick, but they want they went to the two games, correct,
Speaker 1: So as a Jets fans and the players, we want
Speaker 1: to win every single game. But then the Jets fans
Speaker 1: they're looking at it like, lose every single game so
Speaker 1: we can get Trevor Lawrence and that number one overall
Speaker 1: and you can back with the jets and adults. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm real quickly. I just want to get back your question.
Speaker 1: What you asked Be the rap that your industry, our industry,
Speaker 1: the presents and our industry. When when you're cutting up
Speaker 1: like what Be says like he was cutting up bad
Speaker 1: for a minute, do you mean getting traded? Teams don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with that ship. They called you a virus.
Speaker 1: A lot of labels they want that heat, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They want these guys that's gonna bring
Speaker 1: that attention, that's gonna sell. But it's different. Oh that's
Speaker 1: a good point. It's real different. You have a podcast, yo,
Speaker 1: that's deep interesting. But it's interesting what you just said,
Speaker 1: because like I could never understand that when I was
Speaker 1: in the league, where it was like the things that
Speaker 1: we do as athletes they cut us for. And then rappers, entertainers.
Speaker 1: You smoke weed, right, you drink, you get shot. Anything
Speaker 1: that don't matter the situation, any drama, anything that controversy,
Speaker 1: you get deals. So the same thing that like it
Speaker 1: was one time I saw dude, there was two there
Speaker 1: was one guy in the league he got cut for
Speaker 1: particular for this particular situation, all right, and that's all.
Speaker 1: The rapper go through the same thing, and he had
Speaker 1: a Wrigley's commercial. I was like, how was that possible?
Speaker 1: Because they're dealing with different demographics. Bro rappers rappers every Sunday.
Speaker 1: They got white kids watching, y'all white kids watching, But
Speaker 1: I would getting to watch thet y'all held to a
Speaker 1: different stand I want this conversation by the white white
Speaker 1: kids five year old white yea, your white man ain't
Speaker 1: listening to y'all goddamn music. I don't think he is. Demographics.
Speaker 1: To answer your question, that demographic change. Every every industry
Speaker 1: has to worry about the demographic that they're trying to appeal.
Speaker 1: But it could be deeper than that, because in music,
Speaker 1: if something happens to the artist, the music keeps selling them.
Speaker 1: Something happens. But let me say, I've been all over
Speaker 1: the world, and American television is not universal. Football is
Speaker 1: like everyone like I be in duty to go off
Speaker 1: Germany and they'll be watching football, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so I think I think although y'all
Speaker 1: have the you have the point, but I think you
Speaker 1: helped to a better higher standards because one. We have
Speaker 1: a printed advisor we stick up on our thing, and
Speaker 1: there's no prontive advisor brands though, But like, how can
Speaker 1: you be a brand spending money the same brands and
Speaker 1: spending money on an athlete and an entertainer. Athlete goes
Speaker 1: through something, you drop that athlete. Entertainer goes through that
Speaker 1: goes through something, you give them the bad you know
Speaker 1: what I'm say. I just don't understand because he used
Speaker 1: to get arrested every week and they made him iron man.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise around the same breath. We dominate
Speaker 1: both industries. You know, the majority is players in the NFL,
Speaker 1: majority or African American? How many in hip hop and rab?
Speaker 1: You know, you guys, y'all know what it is. Majority
Speaker 1: of the rap push the guys that are making the
Speaker 1: money for the big labels. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that African American? When are we gonna understand that we
Speaker 1: control these spaces, you know what I'm saying, So we
Speaker 1: can come back to the table and get together and
Speaker 1: figure that ship out so we can monetize and be
Speaker 1: in a position where we're bringing other guys in so
Speaker 1: they can eat. You know, I mean, now it's different
Speaker 1: than the especially in your space back in the day.
Speaker 1: It's different where these guys out here everybody talking about
Speaker 1: owning their masters and all this ship, and they can
Speaker 1: bring other guys in and eat and teach them the ropes.
Speaker 1: It's tougher in football. But you guys, y'all, you know
Speaker 1: y'all the ogs. You gotta tell these guys, this is
Speaker 1: how you're supposed to do it, Like we try to
Speaker 1: tell the guys on our show, this is how you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do it, and conduct yourself so you can
Speaker 1: maximize your time because our window is like this. The
Speaker 1: average lifespanning the NFL is three and a half years
Speaker 1: before but you got motherfucker's like greater to play twenty years.
Speaker 1: Then you got guys that's playing one to three years.
Speaker 1: It come back down to probably about three and a half,
Speaker 1: so it's still small. Yeah, we we got in thirteen.
Speaker 1: Channing got in like six, but he was doing some
Speaker 1: other ship because he was drinking beer all days. Don't
Speaker 1: want to get massage. It was in the hotel lobby.
Speaker 1: You fly, you fly to another city. You ain't never
Speaker 1: been to to play a game San Diego. Charge you're
Speaker 1: gonna play them. Ain't no way I'm staying in the house.
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen the girls that same day ago,
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of you. You're golf used to be,
Speaker 1: you know, you used to be. So this is why
Speaker 1: I had it. I struggled in Miami. I was there
Speaker 1: for two years, and this is what I knew. It
Speaker 1: was over as soon as I came down here. Every Friday.
Speaker 1: This boy had the whole defense and what was the place?
Speaker 1: And cococo every one time to time. One time I
Speaker 1: had a good time, but I walked away. I said,
Speaker 1: we will never win the chicken. You say something too
Speaker 1: much sports, But in Denver it is a different dynamic,
Speaker 1: right as far as northern right, So you you can
Speaker 1: you played seven years or you played a couple of
Speaker 1: years in Denver then you came in. Miamis a totally different.
Speaker 1: But my mentality was always you know, like so with Fred, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a knucklehead, and really it was I didn't
Speaker 1: understand the business, right, so everything was personal. I didn't
Speaker 1: understand the magnitude of it, and so you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to learn the hard way. But one thing
Speaker 1: I always did was I handled my business. So even
Speaker 1: when I came to Miami. I probably can count on
Speaker 1: one hand how many times I want to live still
Speaker 1: to this day. Like I wasn't in Lift because I
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't trying to pay the price, you know,
Speaker 1: the next morning, waking up at six am, seven am
Speaker 1: and being home over now, like I wanted the bag
Speaker 1: and that was my focus. Really, man, your question to
Speaker 1: win with being independent? How you were just talking about
Speaker 1: Rapids being independent. How do you feel about the rock
Speaker 1: stepping out and doing the SFL because he'd be able
Speaker 1: to recruit a whole bunch of players to do that
Speaker 1: independent league. I don't think it's gonna work. I think
Speaker 1: I think you're waiting this what you said, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it. I didn't stand answer. I don't like that
Speaker 1: gonna work. It's since if you could play in the NFL,
Speaker 1: you can play the NFL. He only bought it for
Speaker 1: like two million, right, Yeah, but I don't really know
Speaker 1: my face but talking about that, but you used to
Speaker 1: say in the NFL, like you said you can be
Speaker 1: in that. Negga said the word I don't know, losing
Speaker 1: door Germany and want and yeah, that's where Kobe Bryant
Speaker 1: get the Reginda con shots are going, yeah, you got
Speaker 1: you see, you're gonna be like because I had an
Speaker 1: appointment at Cocody, this big girl, and you think it's
Speaker 1: gonna work that there's when you when you look at
Speaker 1: tears and stuff, that's tears of athletes and that's what.
Speaker 1: So if you if you're going to another play in
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're gonna play NFL. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: twenty two guys on the field that are the best
Speaker 1: in the world. If he calls you, what's that his
Speaker 1: league is playing like the back that's to the point.
Speaker 1: It's the next level perfect. So but you were you're
Speaker 1: watching the best in the world. And you know, if
Speaker 1: if anybody in the XFL can play in the NFL,
Speaker 1: they want to go get that money. So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be the second tier of players when the first effects
Speaker 1: XFL the quality of play, it wasn't NFL. And we've
Speaker 1: been so stuck in the NFL that you can't get
Speaker 1: the NFL in any other league. I think that I
Speaker 1: think that big, thick, motherfucking some mooning wasted all. He's
Speaker 1: goddamn money. But that's his only play right there though,
Speaker 1: That's why they don't start in the last season. They
Speaker 1: don't look at the NFL. You know that's a one
Speaker 1: then Canadian league right under the NFL. That's what they're
Speaker 1: going to look at. That's that's that's B squad and
Speaker 1: you got XFL. That's like C and D. But these
Speaker 1: guys looking for an opportunity to try to work out.
Speaker 1: They just want to get filmed, so they just try
Speaker 1: to get the Canada or get back. Couldn't be positive.
Speaker 1: It's the development, it's a development. The Rock he whatever
Speaker 1: he put in it, there's a he has a potential
Speaker 1: to get that money back because she's doing business. You know,
Speaker 1: rock a couple hundred millions. He ain't doing that god off.
Speaker 1: So he can take that fifteen ten million dollars play
Speaker 1: if it hit. But the sponsorships, sponsorships, his relationships, he
Speaker 1: could try to get that back. So he got some time. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's no it's gonna fail, Fred, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see how go freak to that point. Everybody
Speaker 1: y'all like basketball like BASKETBALLA all of them watching basketball?
Speaker 1: How many league basketball games? If y'all watching the last
Speaker 1: I'll say five years league? The little more funers are
Speaker 1: playing the something in the legym. How many I wanted
Speaker 1: to right not leave. But some of the league that's
Speaker 1: like the league, like Fred said, there's NFL, there's Canadian
Speaker 1: and then there's xfil So the NFL is gonna be
Speaker 1: under the NFL leader. You ain't for your opportunity, like
Speaker 1: Buddy went to the Lakers, Uh Andre Ingram, they brought
Speaker 1: him up and the ship up. But that's the between
Speaker 1: the NFL where you got a lot of guys like
Speaker 1: you're dealing with men in the NFL, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's serious business there. So you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of college kids that can ball, but they
Speaker 1: need time to develop. So when you leave college, if
Speaker 1: you don't make it to the NFL, where do you go.
Speaker 1: So the XFL is important because it's a develop mental
Speaker 1: league in the in the NFL actually wants that they
Speaker 1: want the XFL. They know they can't compete, they know
Speaker 1: they didn't can't compete with them, but they need the
Speaker 1: Rock to be successful and also understand his place because
Speaker 1: that's a place where the guys is just not ready.
Speaker 1: They can go play a couple of years, get some films,
Speaker 1: get to the next level. Speaking of the lot of light.
Speaker 1: Somebody's want to watch that ship. Speaking of the rock
Speaker 1: this this this show on on HBO Ballers. It's really
Speaker 1: based on athletes and football players. How real is that? Non?
Speaker 1: Tell me, I don't know what you're go first, No, No,
Speaker 1: the show got canceled them, but yeah, I got cancer
Speaker 1: after the last season. Was about to come back a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago, about four or five one. It's official.
Speaker 1: I think they probably started getting a little too close
Speaker 1: to what the real ship is and the big boy. Look,
Speaker 1: NFL is a multi multi billion dollar business, so if
Speaker 1: you get too close to what they're doing, they're the mob.
Speaker 1: They're not sucking around. So if anything, that's probably what happened.
Speaker 1: But and that's the country what you means. So you
Speaker 1: said in the NFL probably went to HBO. We can't
Speaker 1: heard that. Probably so that's when hard Knock came. A
Speaker 1: lot of that is true, bro, Like that shootout ship,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of all they're doing is taking stories.
Speaker 1: It's glorified, it's magnified, but it's true. And and the
Speaker 1: possibilities there. Look, the NFL, you've seen everything you see
Speaker 1: niggas do. Ship that you're like this nigga played ball
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? This nigga got his wife
Speaker 1: at good point or he got you know, he anything
Speaker 1: might be going on. It's true, it's bad, and they
Speaker 1: just read enacting stuff that they've seen on the NFL.
Speaker 1: So a lot of it is true, but that but
Speaker 1: there's such a small window like it's true, but it's
Speaker 1: just true. But it's fifty three seventeen in NFL team
Speaker 1: the sixteen hundred active you right here, So what is
Speaker 1: the seventeen sixteen seventeen hunting the film bro that shows
Speaker 1: about a hundred dudes. And that's that's why I get upset.
Speaker 1: I can't watch I can't watch Ballers. It ain't a
Speaker 1: big picture. So if you take if you take anybody's industry, rappers,
Speaker 1: DJs and all that, and you want to make a
Speaker 1: show about eight percent of them, I can't funk with
Speaker 1: you because it's ninety two dudes trying to do the
Speaker 1: right it's not representative. I think Ballers was eight percent
Speaker 1: of the NFL pass and it's since nineteen seventy when
Speaker 1: NFL and af L merged that they're not showing And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. They show the Ballers shows, the
Speaker 1: worst ship about the NFL, because that's what motherfucker's want
Speaker 1: to see and that's how they can monetize it and
Speaker 1: make money. That's what ballers. But that goes back to
Speaker 1: what I said a second ago about your industry, your wrap.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like these exactly these labels.
Speaker 1: They want to sell that ship because they know it's
Speaker 1: gonna sell. They're not finished sell. They put your records
Speaker 1: talking about one to three A b c s selling
Speaker 1: that ship. They want to sell your hardest ships. They
Speaker 1: want to sell it because they know you want to
Speaker 1: run with it. Niggers that can relate to you, how
Speaker 1: about you? They know what they're going to Ballers. I
Speaker 1: think it was with Channon said, I mean he I
Speaker 1: mean that was they got to working out in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the ship right. No, no, I'm not on,
Speaker 1: but you know I felt some type of I felt
Speaker 1: like the rock because he literally sharing the backyard. I
Speaker 1: felt like her. But I felt like he should have
Speaker 1: invited me on the show. I never got the invite,
Speaker 1: and he was a higher help. I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was executive. You know, he the real deal. That was
Speaker 1: his show about any given something that that's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite football shows. The programs, and then there's any
Speaker 1: given selling that's the best. The program, The Program, The Program,
Speaker 1: James and the Program. The pro Ram is the most
Speaker 1: accurate off the field football film I've ever watched in
Speaker 1: my collegiate collegiate but it's called The Program. It's everything
Speaker 1: you got you dudes on steroids. Young dude trying to
Speaker 1: make it, young dude girl trying to funk up his
Speaker 1: career is everything. Yeah, Dad at home telling me you
Speaker 1: you have to do it for the family. The Program
Speaker 1: is the most aggrate football family. Just like game, but
Speaker 1: it's football. You know what I'm saying, y'all forgetting about
Speaker 1: remember the Italians. The ship we're going through now Sunday, right,
Speaker 1: and get something this white versus black you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's strong where football is kind of
Speaker 1: and then the bridge, you know what I'm saying between
Speaker 1: the white players and the black players, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day of sports is nothing else. It's
Speaker 1: the one X factor that they're gonna bring, you know,
Speaker 1: Whites with you know, their their beliefs and Blacks with
Speaker 1: their beliefs. It's gonna bring them together. And when you're
Speaker 1: in the locker room that that racism and that bullshit.
Speaker 1: I haven't don't really something about it. So remember, the
Speaker 1: Titans is definitely in the top three, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say it don't exist. It's like you're saying, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, because because they didn't do like, you know,
Speaker 1: dude got some guess they got some points. Now in
Speaker 1: the quarterback you're working with in the Chicago you know
Speaker 1: what his name? How is that Chicago? Like? How was that? Like?
Speaker 1: So uh, because you Pittsburgh's cold. Pittsburgh to Chicago was good.
Speaker 1: I didn't care about the weather. I don't really care
Speaker 1: about that. But like you know, Jay and I we
Speaker 1: was brothers, drafted two thousand six to the Dimmer Broncos together.
Speaker 1: He was first round, I was fourth round. So we
Speaker 1: was connected at the hips, and you know, we had
Speaker 1: amazing start to our career. Uh, we went our separate ways.
Speaker 1: Then we put the band back together in Chicago and
Speaker 1: it just didn't work out. So it's years. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure out. I'm trying to figure out where he where.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out trying to go generic because um,
Speaker 1: why y'all fell out? Yeah, why because at one point
Speaker 1: you did uh and if it was Stephen A. Smith,
Speaker 1: Steve steps trying to get you to throw him under
Speaker 1: the bus. Yeah, yeah, yeah you didn't. You held him down,
Speaker 1: and then it was like something happened after that, and
Speaker 1: I just don't know what. I guess that's that would
Speaker 1: be the better question, because I remember you hold him
Speaker 1: down on and Stephen it was like I remember this
Speaker 1: very very, very vividly because stephen A was trying to
Speaker 1: get you to black. Come on, I get I get
Speaker 1: an example, right, like going back to Denver when when
Speaker 1: I was when you know, I was young and dumb. Uh,
Speaker 1: never gambled in my life, didn't know nothing, got you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of dollars, went to Vegas for the first time,
Speaker 1: lost my mind. You know. The first time I went
Speaker 1: out there, one hundred went out there, the second time
Speaker 1: lost like three grand. Went out there again, lost a
Speaker 1: hundred something thousand. But this is a time where you know,
Speaker 1: I ain't had no money. I was making four in
Speaker 1: a year and then I lost more. I lost all
Speaker 1: my money. I'm in the wind hotel. I called j Cutler.
Speaker 1: I said, bro, I need sixty K to pay to
Speaker 1: win Moneys in my account the next day, right, So
Speaker 1: like that's where our relationship was. And then we get
Speaker 1: to a point in Denver where I mean it's all
Speaker 1: football stuff. It's like, let's go win the championship. So
Speaker 1: that you know, the Jay Cutler and and you know,
Speaker 1: the whole story around him is like is he a leader?
Speaker 1: You know, is he the guy? He has all the
Speaker 1: talent in the world. So when as we matured and
Speaker 1: we got away from all that little boys stuff, let's
Speaker 1: go win the championship. They gave us the were the
Speaker 1: leaders now, and he just wasn't on that, and we
Speaker 1: just went to we went to a place where we
Speaker 1: didn't talk. Fast forward to to to this year. Jay.
Speaker 1: You know, he went through a few personal things. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go and dive deep into his business.
Speaker 1: I'm laying a bit with my wife. My wife like, baby,
Speaker 1: just hit him up, like just check on him because
Speaker 1: it's my brother. It's like, just check on him, man.
Speaker 1: I hit him up for like three in the morning.
Speaker 1: Here on my mind, were hit We're going back and forth,
Speaker 1: back and forth. Right, He's like, Yeah, we're gonna meet up.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this school, do that. I go to
Speaker 1: Tennessee for a little break. Uh, he right around the corner.
Speaker 1: I hit him up, him calling me him answer the call.
Speaker 1: It's like the same old j Cutler. So you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jay is one of those guys. Man. It's like if
Speaker 1: you're in his circle, you're good. He loves you. If not,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a whole another conversation. So yeah, like
Speaker 1: how how is it? Because like, um, like the quarterback
Speaker 1: for for like lack of a better term, it's like
Speaker 1: the leader. Correct, he's supposed to be so all right,
Speaker 1: So if you're on a deep defensive side, do you
Speaker 1: is are they in the same like you know frequency
Speaker 1: like as a as a defensive player talking to the
Speaker 1: quarterback or that's that's not the way this happened. And
Speaker 1: if if you don't really talk to him, the good
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have come during practice and say like, hey, why
Speaker 1: did you drop back in his own and you know,
Speaker 1: bulls your excello stuff. But the quarterback defense, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you Chad Pennington. I played with Chad Pennington. Chad Penning
Speaker 1: was with the Jets. You don't know, you don't really
Speaker 1: follow your daddy, but continue and that that was the
Speaker 1: best quarterback play with But he would come to me
Speaker 1: after that, after practice and be like, hey, in this
Speaker 1: cup of three, why did you drop back in there?
Speaker 1: Because I couldn't hit the end route and all that,
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, because the back didn't flare that way,
Speaker 1: so I had nothing to do. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if he needed me to tell him that, but he
Speaker 1: would just try to embrace the team. And I think
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks make an effort to embrace the team. You
Speaker 1: hit it on the head, and you, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you knew you hit it on the head. But
Speaker 1: a good quarterback understands what he is for the team.
Speaker 1: And that's why he always wanted defense. The players food
Speaker 1: with the quarterback. It's because that quarterback wanted. Have you
Speaker 1: ever been on a team where the defensive the offensive?
Speaker 1: Or in practice practice sometimes you know what if the
Speaker 1: defense strong, but during the games, you know, I've seen
Speaker 1: situations where my boys, I don't out with the defense,
Speaker 1: but I ain't even really that's where the dogs play defensive.
Speaker 1: Me the linebackers in the cornerbacks and pretty boys. And
Speaker 1: then we were chilling. So they'll let us know though,
Speaker 1: they'll be like, yoga, y'all need to Hey, what the
Speaker 1: fund y'all doing over there? I get this ship right.
Speaker 1: So once the defensive player put that situation and play
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna try to get the offense together. But
Speaker 1: then after that it's the quarterback. The quarterback was the
Speaker 1: one where everybody looking at saying, all right, what then
Speaker 1: is he gonna say? I was in New England for
Speaker 1: two years with Brady towards the end of my career.
Speaker 1: Brady treated everybody the same practice squad ten your back.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's that's why I think
Speaker 1: Brady to go because he they say, Brady right to
Speaker 1: sleep for practice? Is this some real get out of here?
Speaker 1: But he described a whole days. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: my situation. That's exactly what I want. I went, I
Speaker 1: went to New England and you're twelve. I had Adam
Speaker 1: did ten thousand yards in Jacksonville. You had twelve thousand
Speaker 1: right now right because from it, so you know, going
Speaker 1: to New England. Um, I'm looking around this ship. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't want took out what they got going on.
Speaker 1: So I'm up there. But Tom, Tom run every fucking thing.
Speaker 1: So you get up there and he's just chill. You
Speaker 1: know he chilled. I get up there like Freddy them
Speaker 1: them PRPG bro. You know was that like he like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're cool now. So he on the ship that I'm on.
Speaker 1: So you get up there, practice squad in your vet.
Speaker 1: Everybody on the same playing field. If you funked up
Speaker 1: on the field, he's treated it the same. You know
Speaker 1: everybody name, you know like everybody. It ain't about position.
Speaker 1: It's about respecting what you can bring to the team
Speaker 1: and how how how urgent you can get it done.
Speaker 1: So that's what Tom was about. So he didn't minimize
Speaker 1: who you were. He was making a hundred. He listened
Speaker 1: to more like in the situation like Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, who does the team listen to? More like
Speaker 1: if they're gonna listen to it in the trenches with
Speaker 1: you know what tongue got the last say, Look when
Speaker 1: the last time you've seen the CEO fire their self? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait what Oh if you're the CEO, yeah
Speaker 1: you're gonna fight yourself? No, I don't think so when
Speaker 1: when when Brady on the field, he the CEO? You
Speaker 1: feel he left about what? What? What? What Belichick say?
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day. Who got to
Speaker 1: make these plays and get paid. That's how that was
Speaker 1: my mind set. The same with Tom. So we're going
Speaker 1: to field, tell me like he yo, pretty do the
Speaker 1: ship this way? We did, We need it this way
Speaker 1: in practice twenty times. But on the field, I just
Speaker 1: saw something. Do it this way. Guess what that's she's
Speaker 1: gonna workfody. She ain't gonna say a motherfucking thing. It
Speaker 1: never been a time but Belichick told you something and
Speaker 1: Tom to do something else. He was courting that confliction
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with Tom, say goddamn, I'm respect your lawyer.
Speaker 1: That's how. That's the business of it. Bro, I caught
Speaker 1: that that that's that's like y'all answered like crazy questions
Speaker 1: just like you don't even know, like I always thought that.
Speaker 1: I want to pay it real quick, right, If y'all
Speaker 1: don't mind, I know, I know. It's just there's no
Speaker 1: normal smart ship. We together. May we brought something from us.
Speaker 1: Jelf Nasty got something from damn for you, Bro, you
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Speaker 1: she represents the Christ. Yeah you know me, thank you.
Speaker 1: So it's a shrimp urger, but it's all shrimp, no filler,
Speaker 1: just shrimp and seeings. So it's a secret. I keep
Speaker 1: it together. It's don't get what I get a shot
Speaker 1: at daily on bro yea for the coach. Yeah so
Speaker 1: all right, bro, that was you're drinking when I'm drinking?
Speaker 1: Was it ever a dream today? An't you worry about
Speaker 1: what I'm drinking? Like? Um? Like if you said I
Speaker 1: get here and this this is my my you know,
Speaker 1: because did you have to have a dream destination to
Speaker 1: go to, Like like you're saying to yourself, like if
Speaker 1: I get there, this is this is it? What's for?
Speaker 1: You might have been Boston, right not? You know what?
Speaker 1: Like I hear a lot of these young boys say, looking, man,
Speaker 1: I had a dream when I was this age of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I was a fan of certain team I
Speaker 1: grew up, you know, down here in Florida's right. All
Speaker 1: I all I heard was Miami Dolphans in Miami, the
Speaker 1: number one. I don't look. But then when I got older,
Speaker 1: you know, I just wanted to make it to the league.
Speaker 1: I didn't get for I just want to get a
Speaker 1: check and go back to the crib and chill. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I ain't like, I ain't had
Speaker 1: a capacity to think business marketing, you know, which is
Speaker 1: what a lot of our guys failed to understand right now,
Speaker 1: and I think that needs to change. But it didn't
Speaker 1: really matter to me. I just wanted to get to
Speaker 1: wherever whoever drafted me and play. I just want to
Speaker 1: compete all that other ship. It didn't matter how about you, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I always wanted to be on Depth Jam.
Speaker 1: When I finally got the Depth Yam, it was almost
Speaker 1: like for the first day I've walked in Depth Yah.
Speaker 1: I take this true story. Um, I feel like I
Speaker 1: was going to the Yankees right like, like you know
Speaker 1: for you know talk. The day I'm supposed to sign,
Speaker 1: I walk into building and um, every guy is there
Speaker 1: because you remember, you have to sign into Depth Jam
Speaker 1: to go upstairs. So egot is Then Argoty turns and
Speaker 1: he looks at me. He goes, you're signed to signing today, right,
Speaker 1: And I go yeah. He goes, don't celebrate, oh, And
Speaker 1: I'm like what He's like, You're gonna have to work
Speaker 1: harder ever on a major, because you have success on
Speaker 1: on on a on an independent. Don't don't sleep, don't
Speaker 1: let your guards down. And as everybody said that, he
Speaker 1: turned around. I think he's a hater, But years later
Speaker 1: I knew what he meant. He definitely shouldn't have said
Speaker 1: that to me as young as I wasn't as hard
Speaker 1: as he said. But when I did appreciate it years
Speaker 1: later because he was like, yo, bro, just because you're
Speaker 1: on a one of these established teams, don't mean that
Speaker 1: you're gonna be established. You don't mean you're gonna be
Speaker 1: jay Z might not be. You're not gonna be DMX nothing.
Speaker 1: You gotta only be you. But and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to work harder, So you gotta think about it, like
Speaker 1: from the from a professional athletes, stand before you answer that,
Speaker 1: let's get this shot going. God, damn pull pull. We
Speaker 1: should shot at man, I should have seen that shots
Speaker 1: you gotta take that. It was a whole street kill.
Speaker 1: He's working, damn. But he don't know. But they but
Speaker 1: they know if we take too many more these, well,
Speaker 1: the whole party. I'm not allowed to watch the clips.
Speaker 1: I can tell you. The ring leader like you, you
Speaker 1: keep the room together. So you don't keep the room
Speaker 1: together when the drunk ship come out, and when it
Speaker 1: come on, don't worry about. Don't worry about. It's called
Speaker 1: drink chances. All second, we saw you were saying something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, from the sports perspective, you gotta
Speaker 1: think about it. As soon as you get drafted, they're
Speaker 1: down trying to replace you. So when you talk about
Speaker 1: what is saying right like, yeah, you know say bro,
Speaker 1: say that loud layman term. It's a young man's business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you look at business, look at the product. Right,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be way, way way more younger. You know,
Speaker 1: guys that's ready to get in because they're cheaper at
Speaker 1: the end of they You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: want to maximize profit. You want to make sure in
Speaker 1: the NFL. In the NFL, you want to keep your
Speaker 1: salary cap tight. You know what I'm saying. You want
Speaker 1: to have a lot of space on your cap. So
Speaker 1: if you get young guys with potential, it's all about leverage,
Speaker 1: but the opportunity to increase their value. But you'll have
Speaker 1: a five year window. So every contract that's seen that's
Speaker 1: done in the NFL you see these guys talk about
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars deal, right, they might get forty
Speaker 1: million of the guarrant guarantee. Yeah, but that's only the
Speaker 1: first three years. That's the life of the still got
Speaker 1: a life for the deal. Let's say you signed a
Speaker 1: six year a hundred million dollars deal. The first three years,
Speaker 1: Let's say you get forty million guaranteed. That's only pertaining
Speaker 1: to the first three years, and everybody is judged on
Speaker 1: the first three stars, living like a forty million dollar nigger,
Speaker 1: and then you get injured the other sixty million. It's
Speaker 1: backloaded on that contract. So you got three years were
Speaker 1: they're giving you forty boom, you might get thirty five
Speaker 1: million signing. Then then the next year they're gonna give
Speaker 1: you two. Then the next year, the third year, they're
Speaker 1: gonna give you three. Right, so that's your forty mill guarantee.
Speaker 1: They don't wipe their hands clean the next three years.
Speaker 1: It's sixty mill on there. If you haven't shown them
Speaker 1: that you can do ship, you have years cut you
Speaker 1: because and they don't have to give you that sixty No, No,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, since you've made a million dollars deal,
Speaker 1: but really that was the life of the contract. It
Speaker 1: includes the marketing, the promotion, the label. But it's a
Speaker 1: little bit different. It's a little let me take a
Speaker 1: little different label. They'll say, we'll give you one point
Speaker 1: for right, and what happens is we'll go in and
Speaker 1: we'll make an album. The album because one point seven,
Speaker 1: so they will have the week forecast, that's what they
Speaker 1: call it. And they got if you maximize that the
Speaker 1: first three years, if you're gonna do your thing, that
Speaker 1: that that third year where you might get twenty meal
Speaker 1: because it's sixty meals left with three years left. But
Speaker 1: on averages, if you're gonna get twenty meals, they don't
Speaker 1: want to see that twenty meal on this salary cap.
Speaker 1: Say're gonna say, a right, Nori, we want to meet
Speaker 1: with you in your Asian coming here. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: a way to take the twenty meals off our hit
Speaker 1: because we we envisioned you being here another six years.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna come in and they're gonna offer you
Speaker 1: an extension where they're gonna give you new money, and
Speaker 1: then that next that same year where you're just gonna
Speaker 1: get that twenty in that year four where you're gonna
Speaker 1: get twenty. They might say, we want to give you two,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna add offer you a new contract with
Speaker 1: another three year extension. So they're gonna make it a
Speaker 1: six year deal, but they're gonna give you another hundred million,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But the signing bonus is
Speaker 1: gonna be But you really playing on the forty You
Speaker 1: really playing like year to year in the NFL, like
Speaker 1: outside outside of like that guarantee side of to take
Speaker 1: about when you walk and I wanted you to take
Speaker 1: off when you you left off for you said the
Speaker 1: minute they draft you there trying to replace the injury rate.
Speaker 1: And in the NFL is they know that any minute
Speaker 1: the ankle could go and he could go right like
Speaker 1: that and it's over. Yeah, right, So looking that that
Speaker 1: is a is a great example. But he's a quarterback.
Speaker 1: If that's a running back, if that's why I received,
Speaker 1: that's any other position, they're not getting a contract. They're
Speaker 1: going back from lead minimum that Prescott is supposed to
Speaker 1: make forty five million dollars or forty million dollars right
Speaker 1: that Prescott's gonna get that because he's a quarterback. Any
Speaker 1: other position you're going to don't make one million dollars
Speaker 1: and prove it proved to me that you're healthy. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying about at I got to understand every
Speaker 1: time you walk in in the locker room, and I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not, I'm not exaggerating. Every day we walk
Speaker 1: into the locker room. They had they got a thing
Speaker 1: called core guys. There's like four or five guys that's untouchable.
Speaker 1: That year. You're gonna see somebody with a trash bag
Speaker 1: walking out, and you're gonna see somebody with a suitcase
Speaker 1: walking in, and they give them the same jersey, they
Speaker 1: give them the same locker room every day. The numbers
Speaker 1: man got to the same number every day, every day,
Speaker 1: every day. To this conversation, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know a lot of people that we're talking about this,
Speaker 1: he said, So we talked about this an im athlete.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that every year you're
Speaker 1: playing the NFL, you have to make more money. It's
Speaker 1: called the minimum. So like right that first year, what
Speaker 1: is it like six fifty? No No League minimal was
Speaker 1: almost it's like eight. It's like when I was at
Speaker 1: my first year, we had to make two hundred and
Speaker 1: third or seven thousand. My second year we had to
Speaker 1: make two seventy hundred seventy thousand. But when every year
Speaker 1: in the c b A, the Collective Bargaining Agreement, that's
Speaker 1: that's the NFLPA vers NFL. There's a set there's a
Speaker 1: set number on every player if he's played three years,
Speaker 1: four years, five years, six years, eighteen years, that he
Speaker 1: has to make. They try to work. And that's what
Speaker 1: you were talking about. They're trying to replace every time
Speaker 1: when you get drafted and trying to replace you because
Speaker 1: they have a league minimum because when they draft you
Speaker 1: at four hundred thousand, if the dude the next year
Speaker 1: it's better than you at five hundred thousand. Numbers, it's
Speaker 1: all about numbers. You're not broke. Let me let me
Speaker 1: say that. Dudes think their names are their names. Brandon Marshall,
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, you're not Fred telling Brandon Marshall you're running
Speaker 1: back one and your receiver one, and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: be received numbers. It's all going to regrets that. Here's
Speaker 1: here's what both of like with both of you guys
Speaker 1: been saying I got this this do say this is
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars that each team has to spend.
Speaker 1: It's not that that that collective bargain agreements around like
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy million, give or take a few
Speaker 1: million every single year. Now we're in the pandemic. So TV, right,
Speaker 1: the TV deals is what pay like, that's where the
Speaker 1: money comes from, you know. So now let's say it's
Speaker 1: easy numbers, two hundred million dollars we got to spend
Speaker 1: U throughout this the sixty guys. If I got a
Speaker 1: guy making ten million dollars, Brandon Marshall making ten million dollars,
Speaker 1: and he's given me a thousand yards ten touchdowns a year,
Speaker 1: that's his production, right, great, awesome. But as soon as
Speaker 1: I find a guy that I can pay four hundred
Speaker 1: dollars and he can give me nine hundred yards or
Speaker 1: thousands and those ten touchdowns, now they're gonna come back
Speaker 1: to you and say, hey, we need to we need
Speaker 1: to renegotiate your deal. We're gonna cut you or we
Speaker 1: want We're just gonna cut you. Right. So that's what
Speaker 1: it's about day to day in the NFL. And this
Speaker 1: is something that no young player coming in knows from
Speaker 1: the get I'm assuming now they only had agents or
Speaker 1: anybody from from the entrance trying to well, guys know, yeah,
Speaker 1: guys understand it, you know, as far as like the
Speaker 1: numbers and you know, and especially nowadays because we have
Speaker 1: podcasts and we have these types of discussions, so they
Speaker 1: got access to information. But I don't think every guy understand.
Speaker 1: What Channing said is that I don't care about you.
Speaker 1: I care about what you can do for me today.
Speaker 1: The NFL stand for that National Football League. It stands
Speaker 1: for not for long, right, And that's what they don't understand.
Speaker 1: They're trying to. It's crazy, y'all favorite player, pick them
Speaker 1: up in yall mind. I don't even want to hear
Speaker 1: whatever the fail y'all favorite NFL playing all y'all's mind.
Speaker 1: There is an organization that's trying to replace him because
Speaker 1: he's getting older every day. Pretty to go. They let
Speaker 1: his ass gold because his ass could y'all y'all favorite player.
Speaker 1: And Patrick mahomest with somebody mind because I love Patrick Holmes,
Speaker 1: my dude. Right now, the Kansas City Chiefs have to
Speaker 1: have a meeting about Patrick mahomes When a little pretty redhead,
Speaker 1: fluffy and curly head, motherfuck get old, when do we
Speaker 1: need to replace him? Think about that. That's the drink.
Speaker 1: Kansas City chiefs. The city chiefs have to talk about
Speaker 1: when to replace Patrick Rogers. Example, it's a perfect example.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and m VP and VPP Mars go ahead,
Speaker 1: we can talk about that after this. Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: the best quarterback right now in the NFL. The Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers drafted Jordan's Love in first round. In the
Speaker 1: first round last year. They didn't get a damp bro.
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't get the best player in the NFL,
Speaker 1: a better running back, a better left tap or the
Speaker 1: protective got him. They got him a replacement because Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is old and they didn't know how long he
Speaker 1: can But they can't think about right. In rap we
Speaker 1: have things called a grandfather contract. Right, So a grandfather
Speaker 1: contract is like, um, no matter what I could, I
Speaker 1: can sell two records tomorrow, but you you can't pay
Speaker 1: me less than a certain amount. Like I believe al
Speaker 1: l has a grandfather's contract. Um, yeah, we do have that.
Speaker 1: That's that. That's what they said the CB and collective
Speaker 1: bargain agreements. So we're gonna go all there and say
Speaker 1: if you're if you if you're a veteran, passed this
Speaker 1: amount of years, this is how much you can can ye, Yes,
Speaker 1: we got stuff like okay, okay, but at the end
Speaker 1: of day, you talk about kick him out. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why they drafted him. Perfect. It was Aaron Rodgers about
Speaker 1: to win the m v P. They drafted guy in
Speaker 1: the first round, that first round, quarter quarterback. Quarterback, that
Speaker 1: quarterback ain't gonna have to win the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1: They didn't go get somebody on defense. But what they
Speaker 1: do is they go get him, and now they can
Speaker 1: turn around this year if he didn't perform well and
Speaker 1: say we're gonna cut you or we need you to
Speaker 1: take a pay up. So that thirty five that thirty
Speaker 1: six million you posed to make, we need you to
Speaker 1: be at fifteen. But that's about to ask let me
Speaker 1: get guests to make. So does Aaron Rodgers does he
Speaker 1: mentor this this dude doing that eventually, this guy's gonna
Speaker 1: take my place? Does he say this guy tell him
Speaker 1: come to practice? Yeah? Yeah, no, every guy, you might
Speaker 1: you might have friends because every situation, right, yeah, they
Speaker 1: When I was Inville, you know, I got injured a
Speaker 1: couple of seasons and the team has to do what
Speaker 1: the team has to do. It. When I was a player,
Speaker 1: I ain't really understand it, but you know, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to win. I didn't give a funk about it.
Speaker 1: The plus I wanted to compete to So my team
Speaker 1: they drafted, like for probably about a ten year period,
Speaker 1: they drafted to running backs a year. So they drafted
Speaker 1: running backs my teen years and in Jacksonville. And guess
Speaker 1: what I did. I stepped up to the plate. They
Speaker 1: made me do my thing. I'm like, me, worry about
Speaker 1: this ship. I talked in the playbook and all of that.
Speaker 1: So they they insert Jones Drew who went and did
Speaker 1: this thing. So as a player, I'm more comfortable knowing
Speaker 1: I got somebody that can go out there and do
Speaker 1: the thing when I'm recovering, when I'm getting my rest,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of ship. I'm like, damn, I hain't out
Speaker 1: of Paul. Extra stress on me. This young boy, he
Speaker 1: gonna get out there, he's gonna do his thing. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna right in the same position. So it all
Speaker 1: depends on your relationship with you know what's going on.
Speaker 1: But then I've seen mostly the receiver position you know,
Speaker 1: the receipt and all respect to them. This is why
Speaker 1: it can be two to three receivers on the field
Speaker 1: at a time. He'd have started, but he might not
Speaker 1: be getting the ball that day based on the They
Speaker 1: could be doubling him, swinging everybody to his side. Now
Speaker 1: he gotta depend on receivers X they go make plays.
Speaker 1: If he's not making plays and we're not winning, Like ship,
Speaker 1: I could have thrown the double coverage. Let me get
Speaker 1: me a shot. You know what I'm saying, we gonna
Speaker 1: lose the game. So it depends on But the reality
Speaker 1: is I always say this of the guys in the NFL,
Speaker 1: like we talked about fraternity, you draft, We drafting guys
Speaker 1: every year. We're bringing a new free agents and ninety
Speaker 1: probably even the guys um you know they're they're they're
Speaker 1: they're helping the guys out. So new guy come in,
Speaker 1: you know he's there to replace you. They drafted or
Speaker 1: or or brought him in free agency to take your
Speaker 1: some of your production. And you're gonna see that guy
Speaker 1: go through the playbook with him. Let me show you
Speaker 1: this is this person in the organization. Here's my massage therapist,
Speaker 1: here's my real estate agent. That's that fraternity that we
Speaker 1: talked about, right, And that's a that's across the board
Speaker 1: every once in a while, like if a guy is
Speaker 1: treating a rookie bad, not because he's a rookie, like
Speaker 1: a rookie come in, you know, you gotta pay your dudes,
Speaker 1: but like not trying to show him the way. It's
Speaker 1: kind of dving, Like we look at him like, dude,
Speaker 1: what is you doing? Right, because that's not the culture.
Speaker 1: It's counterculture. In the league week, we have this mindset
Speaker 1: of look, we're gonna help you out at the end
Speaker 1: of the day because you know what the crazy ship is.
Speaker 1: And I'm a Swiss of the story A subject a
Speaker 1: little bit right now. Um, I bike by aga and
Speaker 1: shot right bike ride right open, Yeah, yeah, like that
Speaker 1: cycle the motorized. I got electronic bike sound. So it's
Speaker 1: a it's a time that when we start the bike ride,
Speaker 1: I could tell he's back on the field, like he's
Speaker 1: not he's yelling at everybody get on the bike. I
Speaker 1: just he's back on the field, like he's like, I'll
Speaker 1: be looking at her. You know. The other day he called,
Speaker 1: he was like, but the other day we drove and
Speaker 1: it was an Amazon truck that pulled up. I stopped,
Speaker 1: like any human being, who do why in the nuts?
Speaker 1: He pulled on the side of them, you know how
Speaker 1: big an Amazon and not looking cause I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do what he do and he blocked the Amazon truck.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not doing guys, Like, So, what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is I wish I was exaggerated. I
Speaker 1: wish I was exaggerated, Like, so, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: picture y'all. Is you telling this story, y'all, y'all psychic suits.
Speaker 1: I'm the pych suit, y'all because I'm going to buck
Speaker 1: the bayle because my's sucked up. But what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say is like, is that is do you'll ever
Speaker 1: like turn the game off? Or is that something that
Speaker 1: that is? That? Is that a four? So? So so
Speaker 1: we just had that conversation. But for me, that's why
Speaker 1: when we talk about you know, why I struggle earlier
Speaker 1: on in my career because as a player, and I
Speaker 1: hate to use this word because I'm big on mental health,
Speaker 1: but it can paint the picture for people. But you
Speaker 1: almost gotta be bipolar. And I say that, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't wanna go down there. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go there now because no. So you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to go on the field turn that switch on. You
Speaker 1: gotta think about it. This dude way two pounds. He
Speaker 1: running twenty two miles per hour. I'm two hundred thirty pounds.
Speaker 1: I'm running twenty four miles per hour forty yards and
Speaker 1: were coming hit hit the head. You gotta have a
Speaker 1: different mentality to do that. So, like, how do you
Speaker 1: have that mentality turn that switch on? You gotta go
Speaker 1: to a different place and then you go off the field,
Speaker 1: your husband, your your father, and you gotta turn that.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of guys don't have that,
Speaker 1: like fred T had that, like he could go on
Speaker 1: the field, turn that on naturally, then on the off
Speaker 1: the field, cool chill of the coolest dude in the league. Right.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys gotta work on that. So, like
Speaker 1: you talk about Warren, we got a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that's that are retired that's still gotta learn how to
Speaker 1: turn that switch on. It. I don't think that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jel this ship. So I hung out with him one day,
Speaker 1: I hung out Vick one day. I'm going south. This
Speaker 1: this is this is two different things. Okay, what I'm
Speaker 1: saying I met you, Okay, Okay, I made you through
Speaker 1: vicking sound and this is bro. It is perfect. But
Speaker 1: it Okay, I didn't play tay. We're just hanging out
Speaker 1: and B, you don't remember I just said that. I
Speaker 1: totally remember what he said. I just do app but no.
Speaker 1: But but Bro, if you don't understand, and this is
Speaker 1: the perfect conversation. And in this aspect where you know Vic,
Speaker 1: you know me, and you don't heard what Be just said,
Speaker 1: you heard everybody is said, Bro, that ship like of
Speaker 1: locking in and then letting go, locking in and letting go.
Speaker 1: And it's funny. It's funny to say that me and
Speaker 1: me and B because with with Brandon, with all the
Speaker 1: mental health stuff, Bro, we don't have some real, like
Speaker 1: man conversations about mental health. And with different things, with
Speaker 1: our podcasts and with different things, we'd had some real
Speaker 1: conversations with mental health. And that's the thing that I
Speaker 1: think men don't want to do is talk about that.
Speaker 1: It's talk about what football did us and talk about
Speaker 1: what what like the life that we lived in us
Speaker 1: And people don't understand it's one percent of people that
Speaker 1: have our our experiences and I tell you what I
Speaker 1: tell you the other day, Bro, I appreciate you, And
Speaker 1: he text me back, he said, I love you, I
Speaker 1: love you, my brother. Let's make some more you freaky friend, Bro,
Speaker 1: I am only people. Only people is nasty. Let my
Speaker 1: point friend, nasty, But bro, Bro, what for a man perspective?
Speaker 1: And to see us sitting around drinking a bullshit? Bro?
Speaker 1: To have a dude that done did so much like
Speaker 1: a man that's made it, a man that's like that
Speaker 1: is even bigger than you, and just talk to him
Speaker 1: and text him, bro, I love you, bro, And that
Speaker 1: man text me I love you too, my dude, my man,
Speaker 1: that's that that that clicks when I worried. That clicks.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful to have a man that that, that appreciates you,
Speaker 1: that respects you and your goods. You're shot ready for
Speaker 1: We are ready shot for you. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1: I like that in this game they say we got
Speaker 1: ten years of more. You're washed up. We ain't washed up.
Speaker 1: We want to salute all legends to give you godda
Speaker 1: flouts to your faith. I like that you shut this
Speaker 1: nigger giving you felt the light skin ship. Aren't you
Speaker 1: light skinting dogs. I used to be light skinned. I
Speaker 1: want to be eight car block right now. I've been trying.
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, no, man, no, I want to mesin skin. Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't know you. This is the question I want
Speaker 1: to pose real quick, right, I'm gonna say real quick.
Speaker 1: He talking about you know guys in our profession that
Speaker 1: you know they talk about CTE with the head and
Speaker 1: depression and you know what I'm saying, m h and
Speaker 1: and and and wrap. You got guys that run with
Speaker 1: twenty deep entourage, they big what happens with the light
Speaker 1: them when they ain't getting the money the same way?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, When when all everybody that
Speaker 1: was running with him, like what happens in those situations
Speaker 1: when they depressed, like what they're going through mentally? Well, um,
Speaker 1: I have said it on the show. I forget what
Speaker 1: show it was, but I said, man, you're the man Monday.
Speaker 1: It's hard to wake up on Wednesday and not be
Speaker 1: the man. You understand what I'm saying. And the thing
Speaker 1: and the thing about it is this, you know, like
Speaker 1: even with football, Like you know football, I always used
Speaker 1: to kind of think like it's one of the most
Speaker 1: protective sports because guys faces are covered. So so so
Speaker 1: if if somebody's not really into the football, somebody can say, yo,
Speaker 1: you this is and you can say no, that's it.
Speaker 1: You can't really do that, Like I can't really like
Speaker 1: they say that you Norrie. The thing about it is, um,
Speaker 1: we all deal with it. This is a this is
Speaker 1: a version of being posted maaticum rapsodrome because this is it.
Speaker 1: This is it because you know what it was. I
Speaker 1: wasn't addicted to the actual money. I was addicted to
Speaker 1: the thrill of Southern Records. That thrill like when I
Speaker 1: dropped the album and that week of that album, it's
Speaker 1: a certain ball. So so when I kind of retired
Speaker 1: from hip hop without saying I retire from hip hop,
Speaker 1: that's what I missed. I would miss the thrill whether
Speaker 1: it worked or not. But with a podcast, I could
Speaker 1: fulfill that thrill every week. Every fucking episode that's gonna
Speaker 1: go platinum, like every episode, not even gold. Like you
Speaker 1: know I was a gold artist and you know I
Speaker 1: got one platinum. Let's make noise, but everyone don't blatinum.
Speaker 1: But this I'm actually even like even bigger. The numbassy
Speaker 1: is even bigger. So but this is a form of
Speaker 1: the thing is. The thing is this, This is this
Speaker 1: is what's fucked up about being an artist is your
Speaker 1: team pumps you up, your record label pumps you up,
Speaker 1: your management pumps you up to be this guy. And
Speaker 1: then when you start acting like that guy, they say
Speaker 1: you's to do that. You ain't that guy. They push
Speaker 1: you to go Hollywood, and then when you go Hollywood
Speaker 1: they judge you for that. And the thing is, what
Speaker 1: you gotta know is the same people you you said
Speaker 1: don't know going up, you're gonna see coming down. And
Speaker 1: so you got So that's why in our game you
Speaker 1: have to have balance because, um, I really like look
Speaker 1: at it more like a comedian almost. I always used
Speaker 1: to compare us to the sports, but I almost now
Speaker 1: compared to a comedian like Kevin Hard guy all these
Speaker 1: five ten fift and guys. When Kevin Hart go on stage,
Speaker 1: he could only he can't his friends can't be funny
Speaker 1: for him. You know what I'm saying. It's the same
Speaker 1: thing with rap, but entertainment is a little different because, um,
Speaker 1: like I said, they pushed off face so much and
Speaker 1: when it when you do become famous, and then they
Speaker 1: take the opportunity away from it's a famous but that,
Speaker 1: but that, but that's not a big I mean it's
Speaker 1: the same. It's anonymous rapping sports and uh, you know
Speaker 1: it's interesting because a lot of guys and I see you,
Speaker 1: I see Fat Joe, and I'm like, yo, their genius,
Speaker 1: they get it. A lot of our our entertainers, a
Speaker 1: lot of athletes don't have a second career. They don't
Speaker 1: even have a plan B. It's it, this is why,
Speaker 1: this is why I was here. I'm born to catch
Speaker 1: a football, I'm born to rap. It's over. Now, what
Speaker 1: did you have that plan that? Did you know where
Speaker 1: the plan B was? Because for me, like halfway through
Speaker 1: my career, I started setting up everything I'm doing now
Speaker 1: because I'm studying the people that came before me, and
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody has a plan B. Understand that
Speaker 1: it could be taken away and what's next? Because you
Speaker 1: retire at what how old was you when you've been
Speaker 1: talking to you gonna think about this? It's so hard
Speaker 1: to tell somebody. Man, you think about later on in
Speaker 1: life when you win. When you winning, like, that's the
Speaker 1: worst time to tell somebody. You know you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a rainy day because you're looking like, but here's my thing.
Speaker 1: Here's hard sports and music. Average career three years. But
Speaker 1: let's say you have a good career, right, thirteen years,
Speaker 1: you retire at thirty four. How many fifty year old rappers?
Speaker 1: And there's only one or two for real? Jay z Uh.
Speaker 1: But but the same, it's the same you put it
Speaker 1: on jay Z. You know you got a couple of guys.
Speaker 1: You know, he just came out. He fought me something
Speaker 1: years of age. Right, what are you doing with life
Speaker 1: after that? There's so much life to live. So that's
Speaker 1: the man slide. Whether you're an entertainer, if you're an athlete,
Speaker 1: you gotta understand that. When whether you if you walk
Speaker 1: away in your terms, you still wanna be you. Wow,
Speaker 1: how you created house an athlete? Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: would tell you this with Brandon and he's going back
Speaker 1: to the early conversation, be me and be really cool.
Speaker 1: And like you said, I think I was a person
Speaker 1: that be has never met in his life, a dude
Speaker 1: that just funs off, like I don't care about anything else.
Speaker 1: I just I just enjoyed life. And for Brandon and
Speaker 1: he can he can address it where on the back
Speaker 1: end of the career. I never saw somebody grind as
Speaker 1: hard as you do. Bro. He grinds house an athlete,
Speaker 1: he has he has the combine guys and he has guys.
Speaker 1: I'm in towards the feeling he has white and hears
Speaker 1: and stuff. Bro. There, my personal opinion is that there's
Speaker 1: there is not another Brandon Marshall has ever lived in
Speaker 1: the NFL. You be a part of it? Can you
Speaker 1: give me another Brandon? That was? That was? That was
Speaker 1: so cute? Bro. No, I just think I think for me,
Speaker 1: and it's like I always leaked into what I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, I always felt like
Speaker 1: if I know what I don't know, I can go
Speaker 1: find an answer. I can go google something quick, I
Speaker 1: go pick up a book quick. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got the other y'all over there, Booth, I got
Speaker 1: the other y'allum, I can't so like that was that
Speaker 1: was always my That was always my mentality is figure
Speaker 1: out what I don't know and build off of that.
Speaker 1: So when you think about, you know, this transition that
Speaker 1: we're talking about, whether you're an athlete or entertainer, you know,
Speaker 1: you start studying it, like, damn, why are so many
Speaker 1: of our guys uh depressed filing for bankruptcy when the
Speaker 1: game or the stage is taken away from him, right
Speaker 1: because there's no planing b So what I did is
Speaker 1: I spent three months at Harvard and I did a
Speaker 1: case study studying entertainers athletes and figuring out, like how
Speaker 1: did they use utilize There's a he was asking. But
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing though, Like I spent that time
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like how do you use your
Speaker 1: platform something that's that's amazing right now? But I want
Speaker 1: to build something that last longer than the game, that
Speaker 1: longer longer than the rhymes. And so we put this
Speaker 1: plan together and a couple of people jumped out to me,
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, I'll start their Lift Live, arm Strong landtm
Speaker 1: Strong as well. But Magic Johnson, I can't understand, like
Speaker 1: how you work for almost a half a bi a
Speaker 1: half a billion dollars and you still on ESPN and
Speaker 1: they're paying you a couple of million dollars, Like you
Speaker 1: losing money? Like why are you doing that? You know
Speaker 1: you uhould be in the office. And I realized that
Speaker 1: it was another platform. I realized that you know, he
Speaker 1: was had so many different ventures. So like I started
Speaker 1: studying those blueprints and and and and I just feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of our guys need to understand that
Speaker 1: when you retire, the game is taken away from you.
Speaker 1: You're still young, So study the people that came before
Speaker 1: you and build off of that. And it's an identity
Speaker 1: thing too, because I think people get absolve and just
Speaker 1: this is my identity. I'm just the ballplayer. That's all
Speaker 1: I can do. Understanding that their identity could be all
Speaker 1: kinds of things. Well, that was Antonio Brown. We had
Speaker 1: him on here, but before we had when we had
Speaker 1: him on here, I asked him about an interview that
Speaker 1: he did where I think he was, um, uh, what's
Speaker 1: the guy? Um, that's what's keep skip ballst uh stephen
Speaker 1: As So he was kind of like this and Sharon Shop.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, um, I don't want to do
Speaker 1: what Sharon Shop is doing because when I retired from
Speaker 1: the NFL, I want to own a tuning team. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be talking about it team Like how
Speaker 1: you play? How you he said? He said it was
Speaker 1: on Lebron show The Shop, and he was like how
Speaker 1: you play football? All your life and then you go,
Speaker 1: you know, top football again, like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: He called him a clown all that I know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're saying. How do you do? How do you
Speaker 1: guys feel on that statement, because I mean what we do?
Speaker 1: Be min you want to you want to own a
Speaker 1: team one day? No, I'm trying to. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: create the next billion dollar black owned, the first billion
Speaker 1: dollar Black on wellness brand. That's what I'm trying to do. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't participate in that, you know, like how do
Speaker 1: we eat better? How do we supplement? How do we
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying trained like we were dying.
Speaker 1: Like if this pandemic ain't teach us nothing, it taught us. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm on. Bro. I want to say something,
Speaker 1: but we want you to say something. We love you.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, sue. Mm hmm oh, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you all. One thing. I wish that there was a
Speaker 1: larger percent of people that thought like Brandon Marshall and
Speaker 1: you were early what we hour ago? Whatever you ask like,
Speaker 1: how how did I am athlete? Be? I am athletes?
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall and miss Marshall And you want me to
Speaker 1: call everybody else names. And that's a bro. He brings
Speaker 1: a team. He brings a team. When he started when
Speaker 1: when when Brandon started this, when he started was out
Speaker 1: the first part of hyah men you we were you know,
Speaker 1: it was when you were talking. It was the same
Speaker 1: thing we were saying in there. And all our kids
Speaker 1: played together, all I can play together. Yeah we didn't
Speaker 1: say that. And I'll tell you my golf cart is
Speaker 1: way not say this, bro. I got that ship on
Speaker 1: the knee. That guy Brandon didn't know what about the
Speaker 1: golf car. He didn't know how you can set up
Speaker 1: the golf cart. And I set up the golf cart.
Speaker 1: But with when when Brandon saw how you can line
Speaker 1: things up and you can really appreciate and respect the
Speaker 1: attention that you can get from this bro and with y'all,
Speaker 1: with y'all, and I love y'all show. I watched everyone
Speaker 1: of y'all show. That's why I brought the bottom because
Speaker 1: I'm going to be I know you had all this.
Speaker 1: I know about the bottom man. And and Brandon had
Speaker 1: a vision and he knew that you can capitalize on
Speaker 1: your on your your name, your likeness and all that.
Speaker 1: And Brandon talked about talk to me about that years ago.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, this is this is the reality
Speaker 1: to I look at like our platforms, whether it's Drink Champs,
Speaker 1: I immediately guy's been doing I Am Athlete only eight months? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: only eight months. Yeah like this. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: get to this until like two years from now, but
Speaker 1: the pandemic shut everything down. I was like, ship, we
Speaker 1: all in the same neighborhood, let's come together and the
Speaker 1: show we don't know what's going take off the way
Speaker 1: it did. But my mind, because it's the locker room
Speaker 1: is real talking. People don't want to hear any more
Speaker 1: excess those suits and ties room talk. Like this platform,
Speaker 1: Drink Champs, I am Athlete, it's an incubator for talent.
Speaker 1: What it is it's is the tech. Look at this
Speaker 1: name right here, This dude been on This dude been
Speaker 1: on local radio in Miami and talking about the Miami Heat,
Speaker 1: talking about the Miami Dolphins for ten years, and he's
Speaker 1: one of the best in the industry. I've been on
Speaker 1: showtime inside the NFL for seven years with the best
Speaker 1: of the best getting paid a lot of money. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: they can't even touch him. So in my mind is
Speaker 1: like you know when I first went out, when like
Speaker 1: after a month or two and we're creating the show
Speaker 1: at show times and everybody call us saying, man, we
Speaker 1: like what y'all doing. The first thing they said this,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you'll should put Reggie Bush on,
Speaker 1: like I don't know about Chaney Crowder. Who's Chaney Crowder?
Speaker 1: And that's like y'all just gotta understand that you'll wait
Speaker 1: and see. And now all these people want to buy
Speaker 1: a show, and they're like, he is the star, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, something his life ship, like he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say you're the center, like let that. Let
Speaker 1: me take said that I directed all the question. I
Speaker 1: knew forever was gonna get quiet at the while. I
Speaker 1: just I was wanting, like you told what you want
Speaker 1: say football like like like so so I knew it.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a certain energy that you you you possess,
Speaker 1: you command the room and you don't even try it,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So I was I
Speaker 1: was gonna be up, so I was ready for you.
Speaker 1: But my wife I told my wife, I said, I'm
Speaker 1: going on drinks and she said you're going on drinks.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm going to drinks, and like, well,
Speaker 1: we gotta get your heads, we gotta get we gotta
Speaker 1: get you about this shirt yesterday. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: because again, like I said, when I came into this game,
Speaker 1: I thought every wrapper hung out together. When I found
Speaker 1: that out, I was crushed. When I found out football players,
Speaker 1: I thought every football player knows every football player. I thought,
Speaker 1: when you go home at night, Jerry Rice, call you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what's my man? Just said?
Speaker 1: You know he's on your answer. Everyone knew everyone, And
Speaker 1: then to come to find out that it's just like
Speaker 1: rap and then see there's fo y'all like it could
Speaker 1: have been one, that could have been two, It could
Speaker 1: have been Twitter, it could have been before. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is the woof Tang clan, like these things exact Nancy.
Speaker 1: I was listening to this song and this is why,
Speaker 1: right Chef Nancy, she didn't cook for Michael straighthand she
Speaker 1: didn't cook for um uh, Robin Roberts, Kelly Roland, everybody.
Speaker 1: She's sick and she got a Jamaica queens. Why we
Speaker 1: don't got our own seasoning. Why we ain't got our
Speaker 1: own cookbook. So yeah, you're gonna come on the show,
Speaker 1: and everybody. I love Chef Nancy. I love Chef Nancy.
Speaker 1: And guess what's happened next, mouch Chef Nancy dropping her
Speaker 1: website when I Nancy, I'm supporting. Yeah, I think that's that.
Speaker 1: Y'all got me going, turning up right now, turning up.
Speaker 1: Remember your thought. Please. But what I've been preaching with
Speaker 1: me my partner from preaching for years is we want
Speaker 1: everything to come from our culture. The thing about it is,
Speaker 1: if I could come to your podcast and I know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen this Sunday because you're gonna be breaking
Speaker 1: it down, I don't need to actually even watch any
Speaker 1: other sports show. Haver. You know the same I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna go look at the weather and Jim
Speaker 1: Jones is giving me the weather good? You care about
Speaker 1: Andy broke off and all these I'm with Jim Jones.
Speaker 1: You don't understand what I'm saying. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: our culture and that's not a black, black white thing.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, our coaches, people that love our coaching, we
Speaker 1: should get together and really make our own Wakanda. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm I'm saying really like, I mean really
Speaker 1: really like bla speak on this ahead, hold on, holding before,
Speaker 1: give me Jim Jones, give me example, Jim Jones breaking
Speaker 1: out the weather, Jim Jones, the show a vote, TV
Speaker 1: calls the weather man, Jim Jones. How does he gotta
Speaker 1: give it to me? Yeah, he gave. He starts with
Speaker 1: the shoot and he gave he should give the one
Speaker 1: of them and he gave you the weekly broadcast sucking
Speaker 1: the NYC every day. And I think it's hilarious. But
Speaker 1: I think like we should really do that, Like we
Speaker 1: should really like at the end of the day, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day you spoke about earlier. I
Speaker 1: don't know what one of Jim Jones Ones is this work, um,
Speaker 1: but let's try to. Let's try. But like sat, I
Speaker 1: want SAP to do drink chap sports cover the whole
Speaker 1: sports right. And this is the thing is we keep
Speaker 1: doing things like that, we don't ever have to go
Speaker 1: outside our culture. We can we can maintain, we can
Speaker 1: actually go on. Remember how remember we set the newspaper
Speaker 1: because you had the funk with the New York Times,
Speaker 1: you had the funk with. But now you're going on
Speaker 1: and have an app. Why we can't have our own app?
Speaker 1: We could get everything, you know, I want to buy.
Speaker 1: I want to buy socks from our culture somebody. I
Speaker 1: don't gonna buy socks from somebody I know who's the
Speaker 1: owner is and four room. Uh you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis is Southern socks Lewis, and I to let
Speaker 1: me go support ray Lewis. Like I went to a
Speaker 1: dinner the other day with a family and there was
Speaker 1: a family, a mad different family, and all of them
Speaker 1: had on Watch This by the way, right, and their
Speaker 1: obligation every month was to spend a certain amount and
Speaker 1: every one of the this is like twenty six of them,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there just witnessing, and they're like, yeah, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't spend the twenty grand in November, Like okay,
Speaker 1: don't worry, I'm spending in February. And I'm like I'm
Speaker 1: saying bad, Like you know, if we thought like this,
Speaker 1: like all of us have businesses and I'm obligated to
Speaker 1: support your business twenty grand in every two, two or
Speaker 1: three months, You're obligated to the same thing. To me,
Speaker 1: Holy shit, But take it to the next level though, Right,
Speaker 1: we create something, whether it's drink champs or a product,
Speaker 1: I just want us to think this right. A lot
Speaker 1: of times when we reach out, we like, yo, I
Speaker 1: know you my people, you know, just give that to me.
Speaker 1: You guy understand like the investment in that and and
Speaker 1: and how much that we be appreciated if you actually
Speaker 1: go online and you buy that, right, Like, we gotta
Speaker 1: start understanding that it's not just about post, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we want you to post, we want you to engage,
Speaker 1: but we also need you to invest. Like what you're
Speaker 1: saying like if ray Lewis dropped some socks by the
Speaker 1: socks happened, but if you understand that, but we understand
Speaker 1: the mission of the company that and you get it
Speaker 1: because like when you turn around and you look at
Speaker 1: like the president and the president is black, right, and
Speaker 1: the president on something like you get me a platform
Speaker 1: NOMA empowered black women, Like now you understand where the
Speaker 1: money is going. It's not like, oh, this is you
Speaker 1: know Noriy, this is Brandon, this is ray Lewis, this
Speaker 1: is that person's Fred Taylor, Chandy Crowder, they got millions.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing for a community? Is
Speaker 1: that if that, if that platform, if that brand is
Speaker 1: going back to the community and building up our community,
Speaker 1: then we got to support that. And I think we
Speaker 1: I think we're doing a good job. I think I think,
Speaker 1: I think I think let me just tell yourself. I
Speaker 1: think we're on our way. But I feel like it
Speaker 1: should be real structures. It should be real, like you
Speaker 1: know what, house of athlete, everyone's going to go up
Speaker 1: to the house of athlete on this day at this
Speaker 1: certain times what or whatever? Boom and then all right, cool,
Speaker 1: you know what, t I got his new colon line dropping.
Speaker 1: We're gonna all go support tis a cool or whatever.
Speaker 1: Don't you just said drinks drink Champ Sports, drink Chat Sports.
Speaker 1: Like what we do is we say, let me go
Speaker 1: create my own platform, right like you already got him.
Speaker 1: You already created the platform. So what is that professional athlete?
Speaker 1: Who is that friend that's gonna go out there and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going on drink Champ Sports. That's
Speaker 1: my platform, right, don't go create your own. You already
Speaker 1: broke through for us. That's what he said. I would
Speaker 1: to the shop of day that how do we erase
Speaker 1: four hundred years of conditioning? Though doing it right now.
Speaker 1: We're trying to. We try, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We got to start from somewhere. But we're trying. We
Speaker 1: are really trying to. But we've been conditioned to have
Speaker 1: a crab in the in the barrel mentality. You know,
Speaker 1: you got guys that will go to the a rab
Speaker 1: down the street, you know what I'm saying, and get
Speaker 1: a deal and be like, yo, uh just five dollars,
Speaker 1: let me get it for three. They're gonna cut the deal.
Speaker 1: They're gonna come to you. They're like, no, I want
Speaker 1: to get it for what it is that they want
Speaker 1: to get it for two dollars from you, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So they're not really supporting you how
Speaker 1: they need to support you. So that's the problem with
Speaker 1: our people, our culture. We try to teach them, but
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more complicated. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I love what Puff is trying to do. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I love what what what what Ross
Speaker 1: is trying to y'all do that? So we gotta show
Speaker 1: love and give love to what to do. So we
Speaker 1: gotta start somewhere because not a lot of people are
Speaker 1: engaging in tune to We're trying to look out for
Speaker 1: each other because they're gonna look at you like, man,
Speaker 1: I need to get this for for six dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you know what you're
Speaker 1: not looking out for? You see the seller Louis. But
Speaker 1: they're not gonna go in there say that they're gonna
Speaker 1: going there with pride so they can show the next
Speaker 1: nigga that I got this. But if they're gonna have
Speaker 1: your brand, I got ner ship style speak at this
Speaker 1: thing called pharmacy or life, and I think he had
Speaker 1: it for about three years. Yesterday was the first time
Speaker 1: I got like it's the second time that I got
Speaker 1: something for freakause I never asked for free. I just
Speaker 1: just go out there and I just support it. And
Speaker 1: he always hit me when I posted. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know I was sending to you be free. I said,
Speaker 1: that's not the point. The point is you got a
Speaker 1: product that I like. I like this black seat? Are you?
Speaker 1: And if I was to go to fucking G and C,
Speaker 1: I ain't going to the people and ask, but you
Speaker 1: know what you said, it's important. I think also the
Speaker 1: mission statement has to match the quality and the quality
Speaker 1: has to match. And that's how that's how you keep
Speaker 1: it moving forward. We got to do it the right way.
Speaker 1: One thing for sure. This is the reason why in
Speaker 1: hip hop like um, when you look at Ross, you
Speaker 1: look at Puff, look at e F, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: you in that category. When you look at that and
Speaker 1: you look at these people, we're not into watch it anyway.
Speaker 1: So if these guys are behind this product, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, These people behind this product, you should
Speaker 1: know that I cool. That means that they believe in it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So we should believe in it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because and and that's a
Speaker 1: good point. I think. I think, I think we were
Speaker 1: gonna get there eventually. But you see it goes like
Speaker 1: you're not. You didn't. You didn't hit up styles Pete.
Speaker 1: I didn't love I love Styles up this mute, but
Speaker 1: you didn't hit him up and say like, you know,
Speaker 1: send me this or I love that. You know? Can
Speaker 1: you people kept um promoting black seed oil so like
Speaker 1: it's like you're just drink black seed oil every day day.
Speaker 1: For I never once hit Stiles P. I just like
Speaker 1: this product and I did it what it was was
Speaker 1: I just you know, Instagram, and I was just like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm out of my black seed oil, but I'm about
Speaker 1: to order that and they just sent it to me.
Speaker 1: Really because I think about I think about Martell has
Speaker 1: been at you know, football player retired and he's a
Speaker 1: black author, and he dropped a book, and I just
Speaker 1: like every time you drop a book, I go and
Speaker 1: I buy, and I don't tell him I'm buying, and
Speaker 1: then I posed, and then I might buy five and
Speaker 1: pass it on to other people. But I also think
Speaker 1: about how many other football player, as soon as Martell
Speaker 1: has been a dropped a book, how many people just
Speaker 1: off the strip just say I'm buying that? All right?
Speaker 1: But that but bro, but that, But that's what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Where support support support support support? Anybody got
Speaker 1: your shots? Because I'm ready, you're ready, yes, sir? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love this ship, by the way, I love this ship. Bro. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: So how has it been working with right, because you know,
Speaker 1: yeah today yeah yeah, yeah, we're gonna call him out.
Speaker 1: But how has it been working with the overall? Because like,
Speaker 1: he's been that guy that teams have complained about. He's
Speaker 1: been the distraction that teams are complaining about So I
Speaker 1: imagine moving on in a lot of years, is that
Speaker 1: it does all right, because you know y'all like the
Speaker 1: coaches now, because you know what I'm saying, we talked
Speaker 1: about that all the time on the show. We actually
Speaker 1: had that whole distraction. Distraction. Well, yeah, that so they
Speaker 1: say that the nigga we wait too far. I know
Speaker 1: you they're kicking the ball and all the bullshit is
Speaker 1: a distraction to the organization. But it's fun to entertaining
Speaker 1: to the fans. But that's don't say your bild. They
Speaker 1: didn't do that by the tickets an by the NFL network.
Speaker 1: But that's but that's the thing though to certain fans,
Speaker 1: because you have some fans that they're just old school.
Speaker 1: They're from the clubhouse, and this is what they don't
Speaker 1: want to see that ship. They want to see w's
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, if you like, if
Speaker 1: you're hand in the business, what you want to see
Speaker 1: your profit margin is big. You want to see all
Speaker 1: the other bullshit. So when they see oh, they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, they come the the circus. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: they call the showIn you don't want to see that
Speaker 1: a motherfucking monkey monkey. But I'm speaking for the coaches.
Speaker 1: The coaches they don't want to service to see that either.
Speaker 1: But if they know he don't go out there ball
Speaker 1: a lot more than these other guys, they're gonna let
Speaker 1: They're gonna get fast. They're but and this is if
Speaker 1: he was here, this is what he would say the NFL,
Speaker 1: the NFL business is what er entertainment. And that's what
Speaker 1: I did. I entertained, so in his mind he feels
Speaker 1: like I was the show. I took a market that
Speaker 1: nobody talked about and put a big old light on it.
Speaker 1: But here's what I would say about because prime Time
Speaker 1: was that like the first time, like we've seen that
Speaker 1: superstar superstar like this come out and be flamboyant like that,
Speaker 1: almost like a global other than Muhammad adel was. It
Speaker 1: was prompting. I would say, och Ocho took it to
Speaker 1: a whole another level. And like the the like what
Speaker 1: you see guys doing down the Juju Smiths, the Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Jrs. Of the world, all they're doing is taking
Speaker 1: his blueprint right and it was it was Yeah, that's exactly,
Speaker 1: And this is what I would say about Ocho Um
Speaker 1: and my time with working with him, because I never
Speaker 1: understood why, like why isn't he on ESPN, Why isn't
Speaker 1: he on FS one? Why does he have that deal?
Speaker 1: And I quickly realized that and learned that he wants
Speaker 1: he wants to have real conversations. Right, so when you
Speaker 1: see it's raw like you're go on ESPN and some
Speaker 1: of these shows, it's needed. It's great. You know, we
Speaker 1: get a lot of information. I'm on FS one, I'm
Speaker 1: on inside the NFL. But Ocho don't want to be
Speaker 1: talking about XS and those. He want to have that
Speaker 1: we got. What about Hey we did we good. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the Weather Channel. Listen, they didn't hear about
Speaker 1: your show. I told him, I don't watch the Weather
Speaker 1: other than if Jim Jones do the weather. If Jim
Speaker 1: Jones will do the weather, I don't watch it. I
Speaker 1: go to the vault and I watched my brother weather Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tomorrow the second season. It's not so Friday, so you
Speaker 1: can check it out on Friday season. So the second
Speaker 1: season start tomorrow on Revote. Right, all right, dope, you
Speaker 1: Friday you can catch the Yeah, yeah, you're in the
Speaker 1: weight room. Yeah, I just met the chimp. Actually, So
Speaker 1: I'm just I was in the house, just up in
Speaker 1: the car relaxing before that's what's up? O G. Hey,
Speaker 1: we gotta tap into the Weather Channel had me on
Speaker 1: bro I want to learn respond. Yeah, he's fondest. You
Speaker 1: don't want him, He's talking about her fondest way. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to promote your show, my brother,
Speaker 1: me sitting here telling them how much we're proud of you,
Speaker 1: because when I watched the Weather, I want to get
Speaker 1: it from Jim Jones. I don't want from anybody else. Brother,
Speaker 1: I love you. Take Jim ja. I love my brother.
Speaker 1: That's you. Gotta ya, Okay, I'm sorry I had to
Speaker 1: do Jim Jones ship already turn out ye turn over. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: I didn't gotta put it where I was taking to
Speaker 1: make earlier when I said that you had to experience
Speaker 1: on Ever's one and inside of the NFL, and and
Speaker 1: you on five sixty and Oino been on TV and
Speaker 1: the reason I love I am athletes because Fred Taylor
Speaker 1: is smooth. Yeah, he do not as flamboyant, and I
Speaker 1: mean that in a positive way as far as camera
Speaker 1: lights and TV shows. So Fred was talking about young
Speaker 1: guns and O G. S and separating the mentorship. I said,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's that's why I thought the show was winning,
Speaker 1: because Channon is off the chain and you're a superstar
Speaker 1: at singular super stuff. But friend, beat to my heart,
Speaker 1: I would say that he needs to do hatline because
Speaker 1: he got it. He's always we're working on that. But
Speaker 1: this is what I'm same to you. That's what we're
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. Fend Fred. Fred's thing is finances, money,
Speaker 1: like he could talk to you about the stock market,
Speaker 1: etceter exceter So that's why you don't see Fred etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But when we launched the first season, it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: now on the second season to start, when people talk
Speaker 1: about iron Manthley, they talk about Fred Taylor free game
Speaker 1: and they talk about this boy right here free I
Speaker 1: should they talk about Yeah, two seasons, Okay, I'm nothing
Speaker 1: scripted right, No, like what was current events? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like we're talking about something that's all right
Speaker 1: and that's so funny talking about that's coming. That's that's
Speaker 1: the that can capitalize on everything. You a lick, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: go to sleep. When he said at the beginning of
Speaker 1: show said I'm not gonna to go to sweep sometimes. Bro. Bro,
Speaker 1: we'll be shooting sometimes up story if you can. If
Speaker 1: that ship can work, bro, the ship will be stupid.
Speaker 1: All that ship is people have never seen. I've never bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm going to sleep, do you. I don't wanna let
Speaker 1: y'all understand that this can be so dumb. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: don't like when the eggs bill when they kick in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you sing this just say with an X men this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been talking about this. This is the most at least,
Speaker 1: this is the most go that way, man, we gotta
Speaker 1: count Listen, you give me the first team in this
Speaker 1: year too. Test. Everyone knows that's not only our first tape.
Speaker 1: And it's the first episode we're released in the one.
Speaker 1: We had other things and and and you know, I
Speaker 1: got a beautiful call, uh from from from from Brandon.
Speaker 1: And then when I was like, man, you know what,
Speaker 1: I wanted them all. I was like, nah, man, I'll
Speaker 1: do the show whenever they want and appreciate you gotta that.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, let me just
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to give you out your special
Speaker 1: first show. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to. I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I was like this is perfect. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I might be greedy by saying, let's
Speaker 1: do us first, but so let me ask you have
Speaker 1: something Tom Brady and a Tonio Brown right now, the
Speaker 1: bucking Okay, the Buckings. Did you think they're gonna do
Speaker 1: good anyway? First for me? Because all I was Brown?
Speaker 1: I was in New England for two years right, the
Speaker 1: wrong two years ship. But I mean just knowing Tom,
Speaker 1: you know, putting them with Brady. Then you got Chris Godwin,
Speaker 1: Then you got Mike Kevin's yep, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then on the deference you got on the show, take
Speaker 1: on the show. Show you're trying to get us like
Speaker 1: Brot Channing, blank seat look ahead. That was Tampa had
Speaker 1: to makeup to to go get it done. They can't
Speaker 1: be They really can't beat Drew Brees. The offensive line
Speaker 1: is is terrible, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen on on that side, but
Speaker 1: they got they got the makeup to get it done.
Speaker 1: Uh my pick from the NFC for for for the
Speaker 1: Super bowls uh, don't even page. I mean, I'm drunk,
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, no fu, no, st I just don't
Speaker 1: think a B and tongue can get it done. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna opposite the offensive line ain't good, and the
Speaker 1: defensive suspect I gotta I'm gonna opposite end of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: I look at that like, look, we know on the
Speaker 1: NFC you got Green Bay Top Dogs. I like Seattle,
Speaker 1: But when you think about that team that can come
Speaker 1: out of it, it's Tampa Bay. Tom Brady's on the
Speaker 1: mission right now, like I mean this, dude, he want
Speaker 1: another ring, but it ain't just like I want to
Speaker 1: dink and dunk like he trying to do it with
Speaker 1: like three and fifty yards pass sent four touchdowns. Just
Speaker 1: look at the status the last second half of the season.
Speaker 1: On the A f C side, people think about the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and no Essay or President, She's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, oh that's her team where she's from. But
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs day nice. But the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right, no, Bro. So for me, I
Speaker 1: look at the Buffalo Bios and I look at the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks as the teams that could potentially go
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Tampa Bay Bugs and Buffalo bills.
Speaker 1: But you know what, but they're not throwing the ball
Speaker 1: enough to Gronk And that's why I think they're not
Speaker 1: as gronkowskis on Tampa Baby. Like Adam Sandler, he's been
Speaker 1: his crewel with him everywhere. He got everything. I'm saying
Speaker 1: the most. Ho this dude in Hollywood. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're know no happy Gilmore? Yeah yeah, look his yard,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Look Look at all the Adam Sandler's movies.
Speaker 1: It's all the same people. What does that say to you?
Speaker 1: That's that's spires, spikes, that's filling in doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like you like dumb movies, say yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it? Yeah, yeah, so you would look at Mr
Speaker 1: Deed's Look at that movie. It's the same people in there,
Speaker 1: and you're coming a couple of coming in out, but
Speaker 1: always just day. So do you feel do you feel
Speaker 1: like he's the who take plan of comedy? Wow? He's
Speaker 1: the He's the will, He's Quat's bag. I'm sorry, which
Speaker 1: but i't go to no. I was just sad to
Speaker 1: do another shot, another shot. There ain't no way, There
Speaker 1: ain't no way y'll do that. You'll drink like that
Speaker 1: on we don't see going light right, be going going
Speaker 1: going right, going like oh my goodness, harrd, I'm going
Speaker 1: with it. So so okay, everybody's up through me ice
Speaker 1: cube in my drone on San Angele the clippers. We
Speaker 1: gotta get essay a goods out here. We got let's
Speaker 1: get it what we got? Hold on a little tip? Right?
Speaker 1: What was the what's the white guy who dogs? Don't
Speaker 1: still got Cort saying some crazy ship by his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: She dropped dime modem. Yeah, yeah, and he kept working
Speaker 1: her too. He kept something. But have you ever experienced,
Speaker 1: because that's one of the biggest things is black coaches
Speaker 1: in the NFL, Like we got my homeboy from Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: coach Tomlin and then they fired him. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they kept Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin been good good, that's
Speaker 1: the only one, right, No, no, no, we got So
Speaker 1: here's the thing when you talk about black coaches, the
Speaker 1: Rooney Rule was put in place for minority coaches to
Speaker 1: get an opportunity, right you fast forward what twenty thirty
Speaker 1: years later? The Rooney rule, basically the Runal rule basically
Speaker 1: says that when uh, when organization has the opportunity to
Speaker 1: hire general manager or head coach, they have to interview
Speaker 1: a couple minority coaches. Okay, so here's so what you
Speaker 1: see is they'll bring in black coaches and it's really
Speaker 1: not a real interview. They're just trying to eat the quota.
Speaker 1: So you forward to where we're at now and today.
Speaker 1: We went into this year, this season season with four
Speaker 1: black coaches and I believe to black general managers. So
Speaker 1: now the NFL lad by Troy Vincent, black guy, is
Speaker 1: playing more things in place to try to incentivize coaches,
Speaker 1: I mean teams and organizations to actually develop and hire
Speaker 1: minority coaches, general managers and and also coordinators. So so
Speaker 1: to your point when you talking about black coaches, this
Speaker 1: is actually a hot topic in sports, not just football
Speaker 1: but also basketball because you got James Harden and the
Speaker 1: other show all the smoke or boards. You know what
Speaker 1: the Stephen Jackson say about James hard You got a coach,
Speaker 1: you got a black coach there, and you instead of
Speaker 1: you stay in there and trying to you know, help
Speaker 1: him actually launched his career and get it done, you're
Speaker 1: trying to run. So like I mean, that was a
Speaker 1: whole another discussion, but that's how that conversation is happening,
Speaker 1: and in the NBA and also the NFL. Wow, baseball
Speaker 1: is an interesting sport man, Like you know, even when
Speaker 1: you think about like when every guy when when it
Speaker 1: got when you know, the pandemic um global pandemic and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, George Floyd, that happens now
Speaker 1: racial tension, staring and now who we throw in the forefront? Athletes,
Speaker 1: entertainers lead us. What y'all gonna do all right now?
Speaker 1: Is an athlete? What you're gonna do, You're gonna play,
Speaker 1: You're not going to told Lebron to shut up and dribble.
Speaker 1: But then when the vaccine came, they said, didn't take
Speaker 1: the vaccine? Why he ain't shut up and dribble? It's
Speaker 1: annoys to me. Yeah, I don't even know that. Yeah listen,
Speaker 1: So remember remember Lebron was saying I'm more than an
Speaker 1: athlete whatever whatever, and there was there was a person
Speaker 1: that said shut up and dribble and on Fox, Yeah
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to blow them off,
Speaker 1: and so but yeah, I don't want to say I'm
Speaker 1: on the sad. They said shut up and dribble, and
Speaker 1: Lebron said I'm more than an athlete. But when this
Speaker 1: vaccine came out, that was the first athlete that they
Speaker 1: actually publicly, you know, put the broadcast. They said, Lebron,
Speaker 1: would you be our hero and take the vaccine? And
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of a better thing to say, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just shutting up in dribblin. Oh that would have
Speaker 1: been like that's they told him to do, like not see.
Speaker 1: But that's the biggest thing. Though I killed that, but
Speaker 1: that's the thing they're trying to put him on the spot.
Speaker 1: You know, Like a couple probably about a month month
Speaker 1: and a half ago, I think the l A County
Speaker 1: Sheriff came out and said, Lebron, you're not uh telling
Speaker 1: your people to not come out here in protests. He
Speaker 1: can't beat that voice, because bron Ce Brun is probably
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that have come in terms
Speaker 1: of goats. He's probably one of the big next to
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan. I know we was drinking
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's to killer earlier, but let's just be clear, yea,
Speaker 1: the whole thing so taking Jordan's So let me just
Speaker 1: say something like a lot of these kids, you know,
Speaker 1: they wear the Jordan's. Actually I'm forty three years old.
Speaker 1: I actually got to see these games, actually got to
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I've never seen my Jordan take a
Speaker 1: play you forty three forty three? Cong on, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew. I'm listening to your fucking music, like like
Speaker 1: you're the motherfucker. I'm like, like legit, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what legit is, but I'm taking you about
Speaker 1: three years on three. I'm forty. He's done what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: duck me up. I was generation so he can't hurt
Speaker 1: him do a political view and you know what back then,
Speaker 1: but nowadays it's like you can't act like you don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Like back then you just said,
Speaker 1: you know, I turn Mohammed Ali did it before him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was different. He did, but he did nothing less.
Speaker 1: Don't said Jordan's at the time. With Jordan, Jordan could say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't really know what's going on
Speaker 1: and I wasn't. Yeah, he could say that bron is
Speaker 1: at an era where he can't say that. Not only
Speaker 1: that he's stepping up to the occasion. Does that make
Speaker 1: him a better athlete? You better person? I don't think
Speaker 1: pet profession. You know what. Overall, and this is just me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I think Brunn is a better athlete.
Speaker 1: We talked about be careful. You know, there's an argument
Speaker 1: think about athlete. Though Mike did what he did, Mike
Speaker 1: played too hard, right, Mike was a small forward, small
Speaker 1: small forward Washington number. You know what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: only thing come out of Washington is probably some some
Speaker 1: some bullet tens you know what I'm saying, some rare
Speaker 1: tens or ship. But it right. So Broun had done
Speaker 1: more for the culture. We're talking about athleticism. Bron can
Speaker 1: play every position. Mike, Mike can't play center. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Mike ain't gonna run the four Bronna
Speaker 1: run one, two, three, four and five, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: talk whatever the fucking coach I need from it. I
Speaker 1: would like to be des advocate right now. That's what.
Speaker 1: Let me just say something that this is the people
Speaker 1: that you know, when you look at lebron legacy and
Speaker 1: you look at people who's next to lebron legacy, and
Speaker 1: you look at people who next to Jordan's legacy, there's
Speaker 1: something called killer instant and they said, Jordan's Kobe Killer. Like,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you how much I know Kobe didn't have
Speaker 1: killer instant. I've seen Kobe like well thirty one o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning and Mr childs and I bust your ass.
Speaker 1: And you know what Kobe did? He thought about it.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna like he thought about playing me
Speaker 1: in Queen's Bridge. I'm from that fact. I'm not from
Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge, but Mr child on seven Street, the next
Speaker 1: bridge over. So I said, yo, we go to Queensbridge
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I mean? He he thought
Speaker 1: about it. He was like really, He's like, you think
Speaker 1: you could beat me? North? He that's the killer because
Speaker 1: first of all, he supposed to laugh. And I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that do you understand you understand the analogy of
Speaker 1: the killer instinct? And do you think that has that all?
Speaker 1: You know? Sometimes I looked at Broun six eight two fifty,
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't understand. We want to shoot
Speaker 1: the fifteen for the you know what I'm saying, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: run take it to the rack when but he's not
Speaker 1: the best free throw shooter, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and clutch he's not that, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, he's he's made it a lot more clutch
Speaker 1: shots than we give him credit for. Like Brown, is
Speaker 1: that dude? Yeah, But I don't think that was I
Speaker 1: don't think that was the question. It was. More so
Speaker 1: it's like, in those defining moments, why didn't he pull
Speaker 1: the trigger? Why did he defer? Because I don't but
Speaker 1: I see on your on the ground, uh, speaking about
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. Sorry to get deep, but we're gonna go there.
Speaker 1: And one thing you said, you said something you said,
Speaker 1: you know, I was thinking about my family. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was thinking about my children. I was thinking about my mom,
Speaker 1: your parents, and back in two sixteen. So you didn't nail.
Speaker 1: But then you started it off and you said, man,
Speaker 1: what I would have nail. So I mean, let me
Speaker 1: tell you why, because especially you and you understand is
Speaker 1: you get this right. So when Cat first took his
Speaker 1: knee in two thousand and sixteen, two thousand sixteen, and
Speaker 1: what he was speaking on, we already was hit to
Speaker 1: his brutality, police brutality, but he was also speaking on
Speaker 1: other things as well, just like correct but specifically that
Speaker 1: we we I grew up in that and and this
Speaker 1: is the same part is we're trained to think that's okay. Right,
Speaker 1: So when Cat was first talking about it, it's like
Speaker 1: we built these callalysis. Then we're not training to think
Speaker 1: it's okay. We trained and think that that's normal, that
Speaker 1: police mutality. Correct but not not it's okay, thanks for correcting,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when Cat did that,
Speaker 1: I was like, like, we've been on that. We know that,
Speaker 1: Like this ain't no big deal, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: why why are we not? We We've been We've been
Speaker 1: dealing with that. So for me, it was less about
Speaker 1: taking a knee, and it was more so about like
Speaker 1: what's the next steps? You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: now you're saying two thousand sixty and this is the
Speaker 1: difference between the NFL and the NBA. Made you regret
Speaker 1: not taking this step, It's because I felt like it
Speaker 1: got worse. It got worse after no no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I felt like that was a moment, right Like now
Speaker 1: it's kind of like what you said, Like you know
Speaker 1: what you said. It's like Michael Jordan compared to Lebron James,
Speaker 1: like today you have to have a viewpoint if you're
Speaker 1: a company, if you're a person, where do you stand?
Speaker 1: You know, blackout Monday whatever we call that, if you
Speaker 1: ain't blocking out people on following you, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So you gotta have a viewpoint. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: easy to talk about black lives matter now. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's easy to take a knee. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's easy to put on a shirt to say, uh,
Speaker 1: you know this person, that person. That's easy. Two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen it was hard. So for me, it's like
Speaker 1: you got a brother sitting there talking about what he's
Speaker 1: talking about why we didn't come together in the National
Speaker 1: Football League, And it was the same thing in the NFL,
Speaker 1: like we were divided, we didn't come together, and I
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna come back to the entertainment business because
Speaker 1: I felt some type of way. But like then you
Speaker 1: go to that, you shift from two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL guys not taking a knee. Then you go to
Speaker 1: the NBA, It's like, what are y'all gonna do? What
Speaker 1: they did is they all put on a black shirt
Speaker 1: or something saying what they said and they moved on.
Speaker 1: They were on the ain't page I respect that, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't like no movement, right. I felt like it
Speaker 1: was that was an easy way out. But let me
Speaker 1: have yeah, let me tell you the other thing I
Speaker 1: felt like because in two thousand and six, and you
Speaker 1: gotta understand when I was walking in the locker, when
Speaker 1: I walk, when we walk in the locker room and
Speaker 1: practice after practice, we're talking after practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: we got forty cameras in their face. I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: with my tad on. There's forty cameras in my face
Speaker 1: every day. The Brandon we're going to at this point
Speaker 1: just bloggers, ESPN, NFL never every single day. So we
Speaker 1: got to answer these questions, and we got entertainers and
Speaker 1: we got other people talking about y'all need to take
Speaker 1: a knee, y'all need to take anee. And I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it like when you did your concert, did you
Speaker 1: take your knee? Or and you running this company, why
Speaker 1: you ain't taking knee? So that's what I was conflict
Speaker 1: conflicted with was and they don't just need to put
Speaker 1: the pressure on the athlete. That's not our just our
Speaker 1: sole responsibility to carry this load, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's what I that's where I was at in
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. But I wish what we would
Speaker 1: have done in retrospect is that we would have came together.
Speaker 1: But the NFL, at times it's too divided amongst the players,
Speaker 1: Like like if you call a person to hang out,
Speaker 1: they're thinking that you're being like competitive? Is that something
Speaker 1: like that? Like let's what was like, No, it's just
Speaker 1: more so like we were, so it's what we talked about,
Speaker 1: supporting each other, etceteraly we so we think about you know,
Speaker 1: our ourselves, our brands, our companies, our businesses, and even
Speaker 1: when it comes to this moment, you know, instead of
Speaker 1: us coming together and saying, you know, let's all take
Speaker 1: a knee together, let's all do this together, we don't
Speaker 1: think about that. We think about like, Okay, well I
Speaker 1: got this deal with Nike, I got this deal with
Speaker 1: Beats about dre you know, I got this you know,
Speaker 1: so with instead of collectively understanding what we talked about
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, the power that we have if
Speaker 1: we come together, like you like, um, I imagine um
Speaker 1: you know Drew Brees, Drew Brees has something really really
Speaker 1: like he was like I don't understand why people are
Speaker 1: just specting the flag, and that's not what Colin did.
Speaker 1: Is disting with backing though. What happens if you hear
Speaker 1: a teammates say a comment like Drew Brees, how is
Speaker 1: that locker room after that? Like it depends on the situation,
Speaker 1: like Drew Brees, It's okay to feel how you feel.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with what he said. But no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no mean no no, it's nothing wrong with he's
Speaker 1: saying because when he said was very honorable, right, like
Speaker 1: your your grandfather served, and we get that. We unders
Speaker 1: but that's not the conversation, right right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's about the timing. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: the flag. I'm never talking about the flag. He was
Speaker 1: never talking about it. So what happens is when you start,
Speaker 1: when you start pushing the conversation to the flag, you're
Speaker 1: now taking away that what we're talking about the priority,
Speaker 1: and that's black lives matter. That's flag exactly. And that's
Speaker 1: what the NFL did in two thousand and six. Team,
Speaker 1: that's what so many other people did in two talking
Speaker 1: about the flag. That's not what counting the Kaepernick said
Speaker 1: he took a knee because out of respect for the flag, right,
Speaker 1: because he sat there with someone that served and said,
Speaker 1: what do I do because it's not about the like,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to disrespect the people, the men and
Speaker 1: women who served, right, So he said, it's like just
Speaker 1: taking knee instead of sitting down. He's taking knee, And
Speaker 1: then what do we do? Everybody talking about the flag.
Speaker 1: It's never about the flax. So now were four years later,
Speaker 1: George Floyd, Brianna Taylor, all these people lose their lives
Speaker 1: and now Drew Brees, you go and you're talking about
Speaker 1: the flag again. No, you had Malcolm. You have Malcolm
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins his teammate crying. You're talking about Drew Brees
Speaker 1: on your teammate and I lost all respect for you.
Speaker 1: That's when he apologized. But what do you think no
Speaker 1: more because y'all see it's coming out apologize. How did
Speaker 1: how did that go across? Was it too late? The
Speaker 1: thing is everybody can trying to right this Roger, the commissions.
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying button up. I think he realized, you know,
Speaker 1: in the midst of of everything that we in the
Speaker 1: midst of everything that was going on, right, we can
Speaker 1: bring back. I think it makes more sense that we
Speaker 1: can hold it that he went in the direction that
Speaker 1: he went because she came from the NFL about because
Speaker 1: it made sense to me when he when he found
Speaker 1: out that it was already a movement and the big
Speaker 1: celebrity came over as far as let's say, Jay Z
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were already conducting a lot
Speaker 1: of conversations around the whole situation. Then he was able
Speaker 1: to say, we should have listened. But you can always
Speaker 1: go back and say that, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's it's easier to button up and be politically
Speaker 1: correct than to run out there and stand on your
Speaker 1: own shoulders and your own two feet. That's what Cap
Speaker 1: did when everybody Nobody thought it was sexy when they
Speaker 1: did it. You know what I'm saying. We got behind Cap,
Speaker 1: but everybody was like, that's and they still try to
Speaker 1: deflect what the real picture was. It was never about
Speaker 1: the flag. They still run that bullshit to this day.
Speaker 1: The last day they're right now then then the Capital
Speaker 1: doing the stupid ship right now, and they're gonna blame
Speaker 1: it on that, you know what I'm saying. But it
Speaker 1: ain't never been about it. It's never been about And
Speaker 1: if you want to go further, you know, you got
Speaker 1: people in position that they will come back and say,
Speaker 1: all right, veterans. You know they disrespect veterans. I'd rather
Speaker 1: for you disrespect disrespect a piece of material then disrespect
Speaker 1: that the actual people that went out there and fought
Speaker 1: for their fucking lives and for our freedoms. So on
Speaker 1: one end you got the presidents and oh, you're disrespecting
Speaker 1: a piece of materials immed. But on the other end,
Speaker 1: he's saying, you know what these cowards like, why the
Speaker 1: fund did they go out here and defend this country?
Speaker 1: They're stupid at their grave sites and he wouldn't go. Well,
Speaker 1: the reason why she's important to this conversation because in
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen she was actually at the League office.
Speaker 1: So essays President of House of Athlete. We're partners, she's
Speaker 1: my co founder, and uh she has an interesting not
Speaker 1: an interesting perspective, but she has a powerful perspective. And
Speaker 1: not only because of two thousand sixteen. But think about this,
Speaker 1: when did the second, the second move the second, the
Speaker 1: second movement of the civil rights? Uh, the second started
Speaker 1: with yeah, the second Movement of the Civil Rights era?
Speaker 1: What was what was that? Trayvon Martin was two and
Speaker 1: she was right there with the family. Okay, okay, and
Speaker 1: you had the call when yes, you worked for the NFL. Yes,
Speaker 1: So after law school, I went to work for the
Speaker 1: NFL films and then I went to the NFL League
Speaker 1: Office and did legal there for four seasons. Wow. See,
Speaker 1: And this is this is very like great because people
Speaker 1: say not the only they don't hire black, but now
Speaker 1: they definitely don't hire a black woman. So you're a
Speaker 1: person who was employed. Yes, Well, the league office is
Speaker 1: definitely in a better position when it comes to diversity
Speaker 1: than the teams. I would say, Um, so there's a
Speaker 1: lot of black people that work in the league office.
Speaker 1: There definitely can be more in leadership. I mean we
Speaker 1: really only see Troy Vincent and a few others. Um.
Speaker 1: But yes, I was there during the time and it
Speaker 1: was really interesting just being in the office and nobody
Speaker 1: is talking to us at work and we're seeing kaepern
Speaker 1: McNeil people. You go the other cook out and your
Speaker 1: cousins is like, oh, you would sellout you work for
Speaker 1: the NFL. And it's like so we're literally Emily Office, like,
Speaker 1: please tell us that we're not black balling, you know,
Speaker 1: Kylin Kaepernick, because we obviously don't want to be sellouts.
Speaker 1: But we also understand the other side of it too,
Speaker 1: and there's always, you know, three sides of the story,
Speaker 1: as they say, Um, but yeah, it was interesting. So
Speaker 1: let me ask you something because this is something that
Speaker 1: I hear. Um. I forget what radio host it is
Speaker 1: what they say. I think it's Stephen A. Smith. Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith says, you know, Karlin Kaepernick's position is a wonderful position,
Speaker 1: but he has to explain it. And that's something that like, like,
Speaker 1: he has never really did. I'm sure I wish you
Speaker 1: did drink, Chaps, but I might not platform. That's something
Speaker 1: that was a problem is because he was kneeling, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't really being articulate. He was saying, it's four
Speaker 1: police brutality, but he wasn't out there like campaigning it
Speaker 1: like interviews. I think it definitely made it more complex
Speaker 1: because people wanted to hear from him and more of
Speaker 1: an interview format. But I also think when he was
Speaker 1: answering questions in the locker room that season, everything that
Speaker 1: he said was twisted and taking the wrong way so exactly,
Speaker 1: like you know, and then he wore the socks with
Speaker 1: the pig cop on it. So I think a few
Speaker 1: of those things happened. And whether it was him or
Speaker 1: his management team, I think he's read by w and me.
Speaker 1: They probably were like we just like silence, like because
Speaker 1: everything you say is going to be twisted. And then
Speaker 1: I think it became about the it became about veterans,
Speaker 1: and it became about the troops when it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with that. But you know, that's just so
Speaker 1: that's a war you cannot win. And the NFL is
Speaker 1: so entrenched with the military, Like you go to games,
Speaker 1: there's tanks over. It's so entrenched with it. You know,
Speaker 1: there was you know, there's a there's an actual contractual
Speaker 1: partnership with the with the military, so in a good way, right,
Speaker 1: Like we want to we want to show love to
Speaker 1: the people serving our country. So when someone says you're
Speaker 1: anti troops like that, that's just not a conversation you're
Speaker 1: going to win. Let me ask you, some sister, what
Speaker 1: was it as your position? Um? So, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: contract coordinator. So I was in the legal department at
Speaker 1: the at the league office. So I did all of
Speaker 1: the business contracts where it was sponsorships or consumer products,
Speaker 1: working on Super Bowl contracts, the entertainment for Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So but I also started our Black Engagement Network, So
Speaker 1: I basically corralled all the black employees and gave us
Speaker 1: a safe space to talk. But then we also challenged
Speaker 1: the NFL and wanted to work with the NFL leadership
Speaker 1: to help them be better to the black community, right like,
Speaker 1: we're like, look, we work for you guys, we love
Speaker 1: the NFL. Somebody and the NFL for get well. I
Speaker 1: think it was talked about it. It might be more yeah,
Speaker 1: it's over black and minority. Were there the sec to
Speaker 1: where you were telling them, um, you know, I think
Speaker 1: it was an interesting time and that they weren't under
Speaker 1: so much scrutiny. They certainly were not prepared. They were
Speaker 1: called yeah, like they were like okay, cap, Cap is kneeling.
Speaker 1: But once it became about the flag and about the military,
Speaker 1: and again they're so intrenched with the military, it's such
Speaker 1: a part of the NFL brand. I really don't think
Speaker 1: that they knew what to do, and they didn't have,
Speaker 1: you know, all the right voices in the room. And
Speaker 1: I think the few voices that were in the room.
Speaker 1: Do you think they saw it as a PR nightmare
Speaker 1: or was it a culture issue for them? It absolutely
Speaker 1: started as a PR nightmare. I don't think that they
Speaker 1: and I don't think the NFL has ever considered themselves
Speaker 1: as an organization that had to speak on these issues,
Speaker 1: like they always like, look, we're sports, like, we don't
Speaker 1: have to get into the nitty But that was the
Speaker 1: first time that the country and the fan base said,
Speaker 1: I actually do want to know what you think about
Speaker 1: these issues, like I do care if you think black
Speaker 1: lives matter? How important is it for Cabinet and uh
Speaker 1: A Dvornai to be doing that documentary? I think it's huge.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody wants to hear from cat right,
Speaker 1: like everyone wants to hear from him a different name
Speaker 1: name he did? Now they see us? What did it
Speaker 1: when you see us? So? What are they doing though
Speaker 1: they're doing a documentary? I mean n him right, um,
Speaker 1: And I mean he has a lot of content and
Speaker 1: then um, you know, in the works, and that's where
Speaker 1: he really seems to be focusing a lot of just
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I was I was all
Speaker 1: I'm all with Cat. I just wanted him to explain
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And I think I've got a
Speaker 1: lot of people like that. Yeah, I'm not with Stephen
Speaker 1: and a lot of things. And he's from Queens and
Speaker 1: I really respect him. But it's just, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just okay. It's it's okay to disagree. I don't have
Speaker 1: no beef for him, Like I see him up be like,
Speaker 1: what's up? Broke? Yeah, And I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: he's happened to somebody like that than Queens though, like
Speaker 1: when they like legit, I don't know. Let me leave
Speaker 1: that alone, you know, Like I feel like us is
Speaker 1: different for me, but I don't feel like he's trying
Speaker 1: to be. But what I'm saying is when he did
Speaker 1: say that about Cap, he said, he said, my only
Speaker 1: thing is I want a cap to talk like I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk and and and everything. Yeah, because you're
Speaker 1: you're the face of a movement, and and like you
Speaker 1: started this conversation. So when you start this movement, right,
Speaker 1: like where is the leader at? And that's where a
Speaker 1: lot of the NFL guys struck. He was the leader.
Speaker 1: But that's something movement, like someone do something symbolic not
Speaker 1: knowing that they would have to speak on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think cap knew was going
Speaker 1: to turn into this and it'll be this big. But
Speaker 1: you are like right now and that's it. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, like this dude. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we're gonna look at it. Is like when
Speaker 1: we think about the civil rights movements. Literally he's in
Speaker 1: the museum for he literally indecent enshrined the hair, like
Speaker 1: he's a part of history already. I just think that
Speaker 1: his strategy was let the people speak for me what
Speaker 1: they did till this day. The people are speaking for
Speaker 1: cat and that's that's the strategy. May not agree with it,
Speaker 1: but that's a strategy. Or did the settlement check for
Speaker 1: a little bit? And not only that? I remember, remember
Speaker 1: I remember, um, all of us black people want Nike
Speaker 1: made a deal with him, Yeah Nike. We all went
Speaker 1: and research. Everyone was like your Nike. And then there
Speaker 1: was an ad to say, you know, guess what, like
Speaker 1: he also supports the other side, but what big corporation doesn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah when when when that night he commercial came out
Speaker 1: and they sent a message over political injustice and it
Speaker 1: sent the message over what's going on today? And then
Speaker 1: at the end they put CAP's face. He had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the commercial order message that you send
Speaker 1: a message out on we're gonna be understanding and we're
Speaker 1: gonna support Cat. But it was just his face on
Speaker 1: a commercial. And then the next day the stocks went
Speaker 1: up because everybody said not get with him. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it was right right you your You gotta treat you
Speaker 1: like wrangular gas a little corner. That's no, no, not
Speaker 1: that's not your that's not you're my friend and me
Speaker 1: and your family. That's okay, man. But I really, I
Speaker 1: really when I when I when I watched football, I
Speaker 1: really thought the only thing that made me start thinking
Speaker 1: like there's discrepancies that happened in football was things like
Speaker 1: ball is any given Sunday and things like that, because
Speaker 1: I never really cared about what happened do you get
Speaker 1: to the finish line. I didn't care what happened in
Speaker 1: between the finish line, as long as you got to
Speaker 1: the finish line. And that's fucking so terrible of me
Speaker 1: as a fan. As a fan, I should be just
Speaker 1: as indulged and involved. And when we hear stories like this,
Speaker 1: the journey of you know, I tell you, I tell
Speaker 1: you know how much science you dropped today? And you
Speaker 1: said how much a player has expand from three to
Speaker 1: four years. And there's some kid right now that's listening
Speaker 1: to this and say, well, I'm gonna kill it in
Speaker 1: that three or four years. All right. But but the
Speaker 1: thing about what this kid is saying is twenty one
Speaker 1: when you come in to the NFL, y'all start rapping
Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen. You know what I'm saying? When week in
Speaker 1: the NFL you twenty one, one, three or four years,
Speaker 1: that's the life expectancy. You're twenty five for a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys where they come from. Five. What the
Speaker 1: fund you're gonna do at twenty six through forty? But
Speaker 1: that's average lifespan of American citizens like sixty four or
Speaker 1: sixty five years old when you retire, you see the
Speaker 1: three what are you gonna do? From the black man
Speaker 1: for open locking? Thirty five? Because you're a pressures, you're
Speaker 1: from Phocky, you're about twenty. You're that pressure for real.
Speaker 1: They're not sucking around. So what you're gonna through from
Speaker 1: five to fifty, that's half, that's a whole another plus
Speaker 1: times too. You know what I'm saying. So when you're
Speaker 1: in the NFL, when you're in that window, we come
Speaker 1: in there saying, right, I just don't get paid. We're
Speaker 1: not thinking business unless you That's what I'm saying. Unless
Speaker 1: you this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, no,
Speaker 1: what is that? I don't know what that if you're white.
Speaker 1: But we don't come from that culture. We don't come
Speaker 1: from the background where people know about life insurance. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They don't know how to monetize that.
Speaker 1: We don't come from where you gotta be button up
Speaker 1: and uh, this is a real structure. So you just
Speaker 1: dropped the gym and you went too fast for monetizing
Speaker 1: life insurance. That's a that's a that's that's yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in America. The oldest business in America's banking. The
Speaker 1: next oldest business is insurance. Isn't the oldest business prostitution.
Speaker 1: It's teaching, Yeah, it's teaching, teaching, you know, but but
Speaker 1: this is the problem. Teachers don't make enough money. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and nobody think about teaching, and they don't getting they
Speaker 1: wanted right now. They want it right now. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about banking. But more importantly, let's talk about insurance
Speaker 1: is the biggest fucking pyramids. You're gonna pay insurance your
Speaker 1: whole life. You might not have to never use that ship.
Speaker 1: But guess who get rich the insurance company. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna figure out how we get paid. So life insurance.
Speaker 1: We never been put on that game. You got a homeboy,
Speaker 1: you you probably got not you are you like for
Speaker 1: for for at them. But let's say your health bad
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker, right, you can have a homeboy who's
Speaker 1: an evaluator who's gonna come in and see what type
Speaker 1: of help you qualify for it. He can you a
Speaker 1: plus one on one the top health you know, uh premium,
Speaker 1: the lord's premium, but the top health that you can
Speaker 1: qualify for that scam or no used to scamum great health.
Speaker 1: You might be a one low premium. You can get
Speaker 1: a five million dollar policy. You can die tomorrow. Oh no,
Speaker 1: my bad. You can die yesterday because the insurance they
Speaker 1: say you can die yesterday, not tomorrow. They don't want
Speaker 1: to jink you. But you canna die yesterday. Your policy
Speaker 1: might be five million. Guess who's gonna be the beneficiaries
Speaker 1: of that? You might be paying ten thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: But in order to get a five minute dollar policy,
Speaker 1: you got a million dollars in debt. They pay your
Speaker 1: debt off. You got a five million dollar policy. Your
Speaker 1: kids they get four million in their banks in the bank. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the white people have been doing that ship for centuries.
Speaker 1: Black folks don't know ship about that, about it now
Speaker 1: because I like, it's not it's not it's not like
Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. It's not it's not like
Speaker 1: it's not a bad business. Yeah, yet understand that, know
Speaker 1: how it affects you. But think about stop being stop
Speaker 1: thinking so day to day generational Like that's what we got,
Speaker 1: generational wealth. So when am I leaving to my kids kids?
Speaker 1: So I feel like I can leave my kids how
Speaker 1: much money? And then what are they gonna do with that?
Speaker 1: But but also the thing is we got to add
Speaker 1: a conversation with our kids about like this is why daddy,
Speaker 1: this is why mommy making these moves right, So like
Speaker 1: why like you know, they pull up to our property.
Speaker 1: My kids are five years old, they can say this's
Speaker 1: a commercial realists, commercial real estate, it's investment property. They
Speaker 1: understand at the age of two and three, I'm talking
Speaker 1: to my kids and I'm like, here's your fund, like
Speaker 1: every every quarter. I'm talking to my financial advisors, right,
Speaker 1: and they're talking to me about my portfolio. We got
Speaker 1: stock in here. We're playing the loan game there. You know,
Speaker 1: we got this mutual bun. We got this bomb and
Speaker 1: then also we got our our our state planning in place.
Speaker 1: So my kids is straight. My wife people that don't
Speaker 1: correct to think about this. So at that at the
Speaker 1: age of two, I'm sitting in Dumbo. I'm in New
Speaker 1: York playing for the Jets, and I remember I remember saying,
Speaker 1: that's fun. And I said, like they I know they too.
Speaker 1: They can barely damn talk. They don't have a full
Speaker 1: vote like the fast right. So I'm sitting down. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start this conversation now. I'm like my financial
Speaker 1: virless had explained to them, don't tell me tell them
Speaker 1: about their money, because then they're five and they can
Speaker 1: tell you that daddy. You know, my son told me
Speaker 1: the other day, he said, Daddy don't want a car.
Speaker 1: He just turn six December seventeen, Z three. Marshal. He said,
Speaker 1: they don't want a car, and he got like these
Speaker 1: little four wheelers. I said, okay, what other four whitherers?
Speaker 1: You want something? He said, don't want a real car.
Speaker 1: He's someone Lamborghini. I said, okay, we're gonna set up
Speaker 1: a business and I'm gonna teach you how to get
Speaker 1: that and by the age of twelve, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: that Lamborghini. Okay, and then we're gonna buy the one
Speaker 1: that appreciate so and that's when we an't what they said, right,
Speaker 1: all right, hope, Hope is God and in the culture
Speaker 1: right Tom Brady and Ship, he didn't get there just
Speaker 1: by being who you had people you know in this
Speaker 1: pipeline that say, all right, this is how you know,
Speaker 1: this is how you structure your ship. This is how
Speaker 1: you get to where you want to be. We have
Speaker 1: people in pipeline, but those relationships that you gotta take
Speaker 1: hold of and manifest, right, because we don't always know.
Speaker 1: I ain't know ship about life insurance. But that's a play,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. At the end of the day.
Speaker 1: And if you got those relationships, because I firmly believe
Speaker 1: that life is I need per cent when you know
Speaker 1: what you get to this point that you can't go further.
Speaker 1: The relationship that you're holding you keep, it's gonna take
Speaker 1: you first networking, You don't you don't have the same
Speaker 1: people around you though, like you think about it, the
Speaker 1: white the white player, they have an uncle that's a lawyer,
Speaker 1: another uncle that they have an unclottle father that played
Speaker 1: in the sport before them. But they have they have
Speaker 1: a parent, a father, a grandfather that played in the
Speaker 1: sport before that, my father White people. Yeah, but but
Speaker 1: but but this ship is so deep, but it goes
Speaker 1: was back so so much further. Like I mean, they
Speaker 1: we were taught in condition to think a certain way.
Speaker 1: But but but but like everything is come, it comes
Speaker 1: back to relationships. Right, So if you had people in
Speaker 1: position to teach you and show you, all right, I
Speaker 1: like you, I'm gonna show you how to get it.
Speaker 1: Your job is to show the next one next get it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But we don't always do that.
Speaker 1: We don't take advantage that. So in terms of just
Speaker 1: going back to life insurance, right, you smell you, you
Speaker 1: pay a small premium, you go in three million dollar
Speaker 1: whole life policy. It might cost you on an annual basis, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: twelve bingo for for some companies happen in the sex.
Speaker 1: Some some companies you can going off yourself like we
Speaker 1: were cool. Right. No, no, no, no, I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you what we're just talking about. No, Mo'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you we type men you I can be. I can
Speaker 1: work for the insurance company as a as a examiner.
Speaker 1: I'm coming to you. I know you're health fucked up.
Speaker 1: You you you out of here in the month. I
Speaker 1: just think it right here, right, but you got to go.
Speaker 1: But I can come to see. I can come to you.
Speaker 1: You know you got thirty days left this weeks. Keep
Speaker 1: it up here. I got thirty days, you got thirty day.
Speaker 1: I can come to you and get a one prefer
Speaker 1: come ahead thirty days like you gotta go. I'm gonna say, girl,
Speaker 1: I'm right now. I'm gonna ten thousand a month. Ten
Speaker 1: thousand a year is your premium. Girl. But for that
Speaker 1: ten grand, I'm gonna give five mill if Earl got
Speaker 1: a million dollars in debt. But I'm gonna give Earl
Speaker 1: five mill right when he when he expired, Earl funked up.
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to give Earl the preferential to one
Speaker 1: credit but you in. But we're cool. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Insurance is a scam because we got a relationship.
Speaker 1: Understand the game. You know what I'm saying, it's the game.
Speaker 1: So a Earl, your your health. You bad been You've
Speaker 1: been die in thirty days, Earl. But I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you Top one, which is the cheapest premium. You gotta
Speaker 1: pay ten bands. You play the ten bands, you get
Speaker 1: five million insurance. Right, you got a million dollars debt.
Speaker 1: When you die, guess what your family get five meal
Speaker 1: minus the meal you're not. Your people get four million dollars.
Speaker 1: But that has to be ran or is that like
Speaker 1: part of the will or that that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Think about the people don't know that you gotta think
Speaker 1: about to catch it down. We think about Look, we
Speaker 1: got this amount of time, three or four years to
Speaker 1: make our money. We got to be conservative. So when
Speaker 1: I think about the stock market, I'm not going in
Speaker 1: the stock market thinking about Neo is the number one
Speaker 1: stock more and my neighbor told me at the beginning
Speaker 1: of pandemic, invest in Neo. It's an electric car over
Speaker 1: an Asia somewhere doing this number one. But we can't
Speaker 1: you know why I didn't make that investment, Because no,
Speaker 1: it's not because I don't trust him. I trust him
Speaker 1: because he lived next to me and he got a
Speaker 1: big old house. He's good, good, he's been doing it
Speaker 1: for fifty years. The reason why I do it because
Speaker 1: they tell us, as at professional athletes, you gotta play
Speaker 1: the loan game in the stock mark because if you
Speaker 1: study the stock market over ten twenty years, don't matter
Speaker 1: what happens, you ride that wave out because this is
Speaker 1: the curve right. So so when you're sitting down as
Speaker 1: a professional athlete, we're taught, you know, like, look, we
Speaker 1: gotta be conservative. So they present to us the insurance
Speaker 1: like the you know, the life, the life, the life
Speaker 1: insurance policies, and they sell you that this is an
Speaker 1: investment vehicle. It's not really about when you die because
Speaker 1: we don't really need to I don't need to have
Speaker 1: life insurance because I got thirty forty million cash in
Speaker 1: the bank that I can get to right now, or
Speaker 1: in the market I can get I can make liquid
Speaker 1: right now, but life insurance. So the goal is the
Speaker 1: goal isn't that? But it doesn't matter what you at.
Speaker 1: The more shots you at you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you might not get you might not get ten million,
Speaker 1: but you can maybe ever leave your your family. For me,
Speaker 1: my grandmother got life insurance on you know, a policy,
Speaker 1: and if she passed right now, there's a million dollars
Speaker 1: right there. And guess what, there's a there's a there's
Speaker 1: a uh, there's something. I'm not gonna go out there
Speaker 1: as well that they do that intentionally, like, look, I
Speaker 1: have life insurance and this is gonna go back to
Speaker 1: the family, and this is how we create generational wealth.
Speaker 1: But but what we sunk up at is what b
Speaker 1: was saying, all right, you a lot of rappers are
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna go I got my shot. I'm gonn
Speaker 1: let you get away with that. You know is double
Speaker 1: every time you let me take my lifestyle. Yeah, every
Speaker 1: show that we got to do right now, but I finished.
Speaker 1: Let me get back to my point, right, A lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of rappers out there that's going to
Speaker 1: go and get the two d fifty dollar Uh watch
Speaker 1: what not? The paddock? The paddock? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what was that? So instead of doing that, let's just
Speaker 1: say they're taking ten thousand a year that's the two watch.
Speaker 1: They're taking ten thousand a year on life insurance and
Speaker 1: putting in a life insurance. They're gonna get a policy
Speaker 1: that so three meals they get. You know, and now
Speaker 1: you're in the you in the position where your lifestyle
Speaker 1: it's in a fortunate situation, but your lifestyle resting piece
Speaker 1: of king Vugh. You know what I'm saying. When you
Speaker 1: live that type of you know that that action. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You gotta protect your life. You're
Speaker 1: gonna look out for your people when you're alive. You said,
Speaker 1: I want to look out for my people, But you
Speaker 1: gotta understand generational wealth. I wouldn't look at my for
Speaker 1: my people when I'm out of here. My man just
Speaker 1: gonna look out for him. Life insurance gonna look out
Speaker 1: for him. If you're gonna go off on the ten
Speaker 1: two fifty dollar watch, that's twenty five years at ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year premium. How many times? But we
Speaker 1: don't know that I can be getting we we we
Speaker 1: we we don't know that. If you're in't debt. If
Speaker 1: you werein't debt, you got three million dollar life insurance
Speaker 1: policy you and that a million dollars you die, right,
Speaker 1: the policy is gonna take care of your debt. Now
Speaker 1: you've got one point five million to get to your
Speaker 1: jets as the beneficiary. But they don't teach us that
Speaker 1: I don't know that ship because I know, I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't have Jones said. We had
Speaker 1: Jones on earlier. You know, um, he said that being
Speaker 1: a rapper it's the most dangerous job in America. They
Speaker 1: all agree, you know what, you know what the reason
Speaker 1: why it seems like today the reason why I agree
Speaker 1: this is why I agree this. This is this is
Speaker 1: why I agree. You look at perception, you look at
Speaker 1: the music. You know, people can't differentiate between entertainment in
Speaker 1: real life and reality. You got people following Jim Jones,
Speaker 1: that's gonna say, all right, he talked about uh, we
Speaker 1: know whatever you're talking about, gangster bricks, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of young boys that's following him
Speaker 1: that that love the culture. Right, they can't differate, differentiate
Speaker 1: between the two. They might go out there and try
Speaker 1: to run bricks, but they might go out there and
Speaker 1: try to keep the three six five and the hill.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So they can't. They can't
Speaker 1: figure hear it out. Hold on, they can't. They can't
Speaker 1: figure that out. So that's the best gun on the
Speaker 1: market already. So but they can't deferate between the two.
Speaker 1: So who who's leading them? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, the reason that
Speaker 1: becomes dangerous because you've got real gangsters out there that
Speaker 1: think this nigga who're talking about it, running around with it.
Speaker 1: So when we when we meet up, I gotta get
Speaker 1: a jump on you. So you gotta keep your head up.
Speaker 1: And that's a I think it's like a tugger ward
Speaker 1: a lot of tension in the rap game right now,
Speaker 1: because what I look at is like the o g
Speaker 1: s in the game right and I'm gonna start with Hove,
Speaker 1: but we all know who Hove is. But you can
Speaker 1: see how Rick Ross is moving down even to change
Speaker 1: you fat Joe, showing that when the game is over,
Speaker 1: you can go get a bigger bag creating content I
Speaker 1: shoose podcast, right. But then there's this generation now where's
Speaker 1: kind of like we're going backwards where they like, you know,
Speaker 1: uh being affiliated, you know, talking about shooting and killing
Speaker 1: like y'all took the whole game to a whole another level,
Speaker 1: like this is where he was, but now we're mature.
Speaker 1: We got exposed to this. I've been through this. I
Speaker 1: was at Death Jam Earth said this to me. I
Speaker 1: didn't understanding at this point. Now four years and six
Speaker 1: years and ten years and I traveled the word you said,
Speaker 1: dudes the doorf Germany. Correct, dude, the door Germany. A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand that you traveled the world exposed,
Speaker 1: and you always say this exposure equals expansion. So you're
Speaker 1: coming back and get shilling the game, like yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what we was talking about, but think it's different now.
Speaker 1: But so now you've got these o g s on
Speaker 1: this side talking about, like let me go buy a
Speaker 1: title because we're talking about streaming, and then like let's
Speaker 1: be let's own. You're talking about, let me create drink
Speaker 1: Drink Champs, and then I can I can franchise this
Speaker 1: the same way they franchise see inside of Miami cs
Speaker 1: Cside Vegas. So now we're gonna go to Drink Smoke Champs.
Speaker 1: Let's pick up to Um yeah yeah yeah he Didduce,
Speaker 1: and let's also pick up Drink Champ boys front of
Speaker 1: Social media chan sports, and we didn't spend it. We're
Speaker 1: doing that. We're doing that not looking We're trying to
Speaker 1: get warrants at the host drink chap sports. We don't
Speaker 1: think I want to do it about that. So now
Speaker 1: you got like he teaching us the game. Like even
Speaker 1: when when he called me, he said, yo, you know,
Speaker 1: let's you want to come to the show, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about what I'm doing. I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm really learning this right now. He's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I got you. Boom boom boom boom boom. I said,
Speaker 1: what like that? He said, yeah, he teaching me the game. Right.
Speaker 1: So but now you got to other young rappers on
Speaker 1: on the other side, and they're talking about they think
Speaker 1: that's the thing, you know, selling drugs, killing whatever, right, Like,
Speaker 1: if that's your lifestyle you live, we all come from
Speaker 1: those places. But you just brought up something something so
Speaker 1: so beautiful just right now. It is because a lot
Speaker 1: of people they don't want to bridge the gap, right.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you. I want to ask you
Speaker 1: because me personally, I know that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: young brothers I want to talk to. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: those three four years in the league the same way,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be gone. But some of them are
Speaker 1: so arrogant. I don't want to waste my time because
Speaker 1: I remember when I was there. But that's why I
Speaker 1: gotta keep, you know, jury on, I gotta keep all
Speaker 1: the gotta keep so they know, like nigga, I ain't
Speaker 1: heard nothing, I ain't none. Listen, I got what you got.
Speaker 1: I got that shot out that. That's our culture. Most
Speaker 1: of them, it's unfortunate that won't. They won't one. So
Speaker 1: it is that like that talking about that today, I
Speaker 1: was on, you know, inside the NFL talking to Kill
Speaker 1: Sims and it's like, I'm a wide receiver, played thirteen
Speaker 1: years in the National Football League. Then my numbers is crazy.
Speaker 1: Reach out to these things and there's nothing. I actually
Speaker 1: reach out to the dudes, and I was dumb, you know,
Speaker 1: I would say dumb because I did what I was
Speaker 1: supposed to do. I reached out to him. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: let me show you how I made it the thirteen
Speaker 1: years and how I did what? Huh, Antonio Brown. I
Speaker 1: reached out to Broum. I do like a b you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think that you know,
Speaker 1: we all go through things and I never had that discussion.
Speaker 1: But I reached out to him. We never had that
Speaker 1: discussion similar situation. Probably you reach other people like I
Speaker 1: can't get that call back. Definitely did, but but it's
Speaker 1: it's it when you're not relatable anymore, Like when you're
Speaker 1: talking about that that that is so true. They don't
Speaker 1: see what you want from me. Oh you're hurting right now? No, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I got everything I need. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: show you. See, they don't want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: They think you want something from them. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers or people guys in the NFL
Speaker 1: that I reach out to and they won't even train
Speaker 1: out my facility. They don't even text return my call.
Speaker 1: And we talk about college kids and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: were you trying to go? I did that at the
Speaker 1: highest level thirteen times. But they had a level of
Speaker 1: celebrity that you guys didn't have, right, Like social media
Speaker 1: has made them like they're in college and they're literally celebrities.
Speaker 1: Y'a wouldn't have that, and NFL players are literally not
Speaker 1: you know, you have to helme. A lot of people
Speaker 1: go to the girl support, and people will not know
Speaker 1: who you are unless you're in that earlier you have
Speaker 1: the thing. But these these kids now, like if you
Speaker 1: play for a big school, you probably have a hundred
Speaker 1: hundred couple hundred thousand followers right Like you're already a
Speaker 1: celebrity in your head, So your ego is going to
Speaker 1: be so much more inflated. Like NFL players are just
Speaker 1: going to be more down to earth than NBA players
Speaker 1: because a lot of them, you go only where people
Speaker 1: literally don't know who you are. Like there's NFL players
Speaker 1: that you're at the door of the club and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, I'm sorry, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: you know what I mean fights. I got to Miami
Speaker 1: when I was y'all coming down here, like you don't
Speaker 1: know who I am. I just went to the propol.
Speaker 1: Let me tell this is different, is different street. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you what I was playing for. My last
Speaker 1: Cup of team, my last Cup of Team New York
Speaker 1: Giants two thousand and eighteen. We stunk it up. I
Speaker 1: was stay not taking it up, goat. I ain't know
Speaker 1: nothing about no Supreme bro, Like I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't really find close. So I'm
Speaker 1: out in New York. Everybody talking about Supreme, Supreme Supreme.
Speaker 1: So I pulled up. I'm hurt. Now, I'm done for
Speaker 1: the year. I'm with my wife. I go to SOHO
Speaker 1: and I see this line wrapped around the New York
Speaker 1: the area area. I see a line wrapped around the corner.
Speaker 1: I pull up and I'm like, where's these people? Like
Speaker 1: three blocks and I get to the front and I
Speaker 1: see Supreme and said, oh, that's the brand that O'Dell
Speaker 1: Backham Junior talking about and Sterning Shepherd. Let me go
Speaker 1: check them out. Let me pull up now anywhere I
Speaker 1: go in the country like they're like, oh, yeah, that's love,
Speaker 1: come on in. I go to the front of the line.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, it's just me and my wife. I'm harbling.
Speaker 1: I just had surgery. I just I just want to
Speaker 1: check the brand now. I really like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: hearing a lot about it. You know, I'm late to
Speaker 1: the show, you know, but I want to see what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. No, no, no, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: what they This is what the bouncer told me. He said,
Speaker 1: bro y'all got three wins on the season right now,
Speaker 1: and you yo, I see yo. Even we were in Miami,
Speaker 1: no more, no sixteen. Even they they told me something
Speaker 1: back and like you ain't getting it, and I said,
Speaker 1: I just want to go check it out me quick.
Speaker 1: He said, go to the back of the line. And
Speaker 1: then that five sold. He was big, but it was
Speaker 1: like six. He was big. Y. I ain't. Don't think
Speaker 1: about nothing. I don't my mom like I really lost
Speaker 1: it because I felt kind of disrespected my wife, like
Speaker 1: like you understood. People get to pull out their phone
Speaker 1: right now. You're tripping right now, like I lost it.
Speaker 1: But Miami ain't too far off to you. Ain't got
Speaker 1: five kicks with you in the line. Back in the line, buddy,
Speaker 1: don't get anyone. You shot it ready board. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the boy says the biggest shot, because that's I said,
Speaker 1: taking what the boar today, y'all taking care of nor
Speaker 1: I know the game. You should have plex with you
Speaker 1: in Miami. Let's go place the heat on it. Let's
Speaker 1: keep the heat one. When he when he shot himself,
Speaker 1: that's my little brother. I'm not just when I want money.
Speaker 1: When he caught that ship on his helm against Patriots, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he brought the big boy because I will be honest.
Speaker 1: When when Pleax got corp with the gun shot it sell,
Speaker 1: that's when the public knew that it's no different from
Speaker 1: y'all and rappers. You know right, y'all be having sudden house.
Speaker 1: This is my thing, re plex and that's my little brother.
Speaker 1: I text him before I came. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He told me to tell you what's up. That's name,
Speaker 1: So my my thing with Plexes. I'm like, yo, uh
Speaker 1: he from v A, Virginia Beach Vig Newport News. The
Speaker 1: boys Virginia dudes, they something else. Dude, it's like our Philly,
Speaker 1: right Virginia. You know they watched it. But I told Black,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, bro, fun that glock ain't no safety
Speaker 1: on it, ain't no satans on the block. So here
Speaker 1: in the club and why, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: in the middle of the city. And sweatpants. So he
Speaker 1: trying to keep it in his hip, but the sweatpants loose,
Speaker 1: so when it fell, he just tried to catch it
Speaker 1: from falling and he shot his self in the leg.
Speaker 1: And he was just going out to chill. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Behind Bloomberg at the time, he won't
Speaker 1: having it. So they prosecuted hard, and the next thing
Speaker 1: you know, he was up by Syracuse, locked up and
Speaker 1: vegetation was the only thing we could do. But he
Speaker 1: got through it, you know what I'm saying. But still
Speaker 1: for the young boys, like you gotta do whatever you
Speaker 1: gotta do to get by, but his rules you gotta follow.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like rappers, they're always on guard for
Speaker 1: being rock. I feel like I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like athletes. Sometimes we obligous, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like when you at roper, like a lot of times,
Speaker 1: you know, you you think when you think about the rappery, like, oh,
Speaker 1: he comes from the street, he understand he affiliate, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So you understand the streets. You understand how to move
Speaker 1: in the streets. Athletes, we really college boys. We went
Speaker 1: through the system, come from a discipline. We come but yeah,
Speaker 1: but we come from we come from send me present
Speaker 1: of us, come from the same neighborhoods. But we know
Speaker 1: that kid gonna make it. We know we're gonna make it.
Speaker 1: So he good, you know, he good good? Right, So
Speaker 1: we come through this system and then when we get
Speaker 1: to the league, what happens is you start going to Miami,
Speaker 1: you start going to New York, you go to Vegas,
Speaker 1: you go some of these bigger markets, and you don't
Speaker 1: understand that how to move in those areas rappers like,
Speaker 1: it's that's the lifestyle. You understand that we're going to
Speaker 1: the same places. We don't got no bouncers, We ain't
Speaker 1: got no security. I'm the man, I'm this, I'm that
Speaker 1: in New York. Taught me that lesson, right, Like I
Speaker 1: went to New York and and and just me, my wife,
Speaker 1: my homeboy. He was in the league, and his fiance.
Speaker 1: We was at Marquis Nightclub and we're sitting there and
Speaker 1: the fight breakout next to us. We ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: to do that. We're just chilling. I ain't got no security,
Speaker 1: ain't got none of that. I just signed one of
Speaker 1: the biggest deals in NFL history for at the wide
Speaker 1: receiver position, the biggest deal right went over with Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there feeling good, chilling, no problems, fight breakout
Speaker 1: and coming to our our spot. You know, I'm I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: like chill, chill, And then it happened again. Chicks fighting,
Speaker 1: but they deep dudes. Everything bottles start getting thrown at
Speaker 1: the end of the night, so my wife get hid
Speaker 1: in her mouth. Boom, split everything open. I don't know
Speaker 1: how we made it out of there, because like, I
Speaker 1: just remember everybody coming and I pick up my wife
Speaker 1: and I'm going, I just like, I get my wife
Speaker 1: out of here. I get her out of there right
Speaker 1: after that, right, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: I was sued. A lady said that I'm the one
Speaker 1: that did it because she saw the opportunity Brandon Marshall,
Speaker 1: the football player did that had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: Four years my name dragged through the mud. I go
Speaker 1: to court. I'm going through everything. We got the footage,
Speaker 1: we got all of that, but I'm getting crushed. I
Speaker 1: ain't gett no marketing deals, nobody touching me. Oh this
Speaker 1: is boom boom boom, boom boom. We finally I get
Speaker 1: my day in court. They showed the footage that ain't
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall throwing a punch, Brandon Marshall holding his wife right,
Speaker 1: And in that moment, it taught me something. And then
Speaker 1: this is what I always teach my guys, because every
Speaker 1: year we're bringing around thirty college guys going to the draft.
Speaker 1: We house and we feed, and we do all their
Speaker 1: medical we prep them for for the for the combine.
Speaker 1: And I always tell them, I'm saying, like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go out tonight. We're gonna go to Club Live,
Speaker 1: hottest club in Miami. Walk me through the whole scenario
Speaker 1: from eight pm to eight pm and eight a m.
Speaker 1: Next day. And and then they always missed one thing. Athletes,
Speaker 1: they always say like, yo, we get you take a
Speaker 1: club this and that. I'm like, where was the security?
Speaker 1: You don't got the security, but you know you can
Speaker 1: take an extra hundred dollars, two hundred dollars to the bouncer.
Speaker 1: Just stay right here, right. So, New York taught me
Speaker 1: a valuable lesson is how to move like a boss.
Speaker 1: And that's always what I tell my guys. I say,
Speaker 1: you're you're a professional athlete. Moved like a boss. Right.
Speaker 1: You will never see a boss move go to certain
Speaker 1: places and not be protected and not do certain things
Speaker 1: because you are a target. New York taught me a
Speaker 1: valuable lesson figuring. So, so, what was your favorite thing
Speaker 1: in in in the NFL to work with um? I
Speaker 1: would say, really just creating a space for black people.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry. You know before they didn't even use the
Speaker 1: word black. Like when I said I wanted to start
Speaker 1: the black engagement at work for black employees, they were like,
Speaker 1: so like, yeah, Like, can we just say minority people
Speaker 1: of color? I was like, no, we're saying black black.
Speaker 1: Our our experenses are different, and we have respect for
Speaker 1: other people's experiences, but ours are different and we should
Speaker 1: have a safe space for that. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that's what made my time worth it at the NFL
Speaker 1: because you have these I see all the black players,
Speaker 1: they meet me and they're like, I didn't even know
Speaker 1: a black woman worked at They They're just not used
Speaker 1: to seeing it, right, even though you go to the
Speaker 1: big colleges, they don't live black girls around any football programs.
Speaker 1: They don't let black people around the football program unless
Speaker 1: you're coaching. So to see me, they're like oh, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this is an opportunity. But I also
Speaker 1: think like we didn't feel heard. So that's what made
Speaker 1: my time worth it at the National Football League was
Speaker 1: creating a space for black people. And it's still there,
Speaker 1: it's still living on and I think that's what's important
Speaker 1: because NFL. The NFL had to realize that your black employees, like,
Speaker 1: they matter and you have to listen to them, just
Speaker 1: like your black players matter and you have to listen
Speaker 1: to them. And it's the same thing. So that's what
Speaker 1: made my time worth it. And then obviously there's getting
Speaker 1: to work with players. And you know, I worked with Brandon,
Speaker 1: I worked with Julius when I was at the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers um the Julius Peppers. So I think we
Speaker 1: established this a little bit earlier. Like sometimes like the
Speaker 1: quarterback is like the even though he's not the leader,
Speaker 1: he's like the coach. Right. So now when you look
Speaker 1: at it, how many black quarterbacks we got? We got eight?
Speaker 1: We got Dak Prescott, help me out here at the
Speaker 1: Jackson Baltimore, Ravens, Russell Wilson, the one we're talking about, right, No,
Speaker 1: you got Kyler Murray. No Murray, He's like we already.
Speaker 1: So we only got a handful. Last year was a
Speaker 1: year at the black quarterback though, like that was the
Speaker 1: most that there have been because people don't realize, I
Speaker 1: would say maybe even just ten years ago, we were
Speaker 1: told that you're not smart on to play quarterback like
Speaker 1: Michael Vick was called athletic. He was never called smart,
Speaker 1: he was never called strategic, he was never called a
Speaker 1: football genius. My homeboy. But but nobody ever talks about
Speaker 1: your words. I just wanted to defend him. As you know,
Speaker 1: now we're getting to the point where black players, I mean,
Speaker 1: even like Reggie used to be on the show, Reggie
Speaker 1: said that he used to be quarterback and then meeting him,
Speaker 1: let me let me, let me, let me, let me
Speaker 1: pick you up because you're all so right now I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of what the footage I watched of Michael Vicke.
Speaker 1: That's the exact word they use. They didn't use smart,
Speaker 1: because being a quarterback is you're you're watching the field.
Speaker 1: This is a chest. You should be the smartest person
Speaker 1: you and the one is probably you. Absolutely, But when
Speaker 1: they're talking about they never because and Tom Brady they
Speaker 1: say he's a gene. They say football i Q. Even basketball,
Speaker 1: they never say that about black football players, and even
Speaker 1: black like Lamar athletic. You're talking about Lamar Jackson. But
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes there now they're like, okay, he's smart, and
Speaker 1: he's but even still it's more so he's a freak
Speaker 1: like right, like they're still not saying like talking about
Speaker 1: him like Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers. And that's just
Speaker 1: a discrepancy. So you look at if you search football
Speaker 1: i Q and headlines, I guarantee you're not gonna find
Speaker 1: many black players that they're talking about. And that's why
Speaker 1: we were so to your thing. That's why you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people was disappointed in Dwayne Haskins because
Speaker 1: it's like when you look at Dak Prescott, DeShawn Jackson,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, excuse me, Russell Wilson has done for the
Speaker 1: position right and how the revolution because he pushed it forward,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, like we're talking about simple coverage.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of you might understand Shanshan not
Speaker 1: excuse me, Dwayne Haskins basically COVID nineteen protocols for the NFL.
Speaker 1: You gotta do certain things. He was in the strip club.
Speaker 1: He didn't have a mask. Y'all got it, I got it.
Speaker 1: But that's that goes back to it. He's me, no,
Speaker 1: he's me right. But like we're coming into the NFL
Speaker 1: and coming into these positions, whether it's entertainment or basketball,
Speaker 1: we gotta understand how big the platform is and how
Speaker 1: big the businesses. So for him, he's coming in like
Speaker 1: I made it like no one. God, he wasn't at
Speaker 1: the door telling him like yo, I just want you
Speaker 1: to know, don't celebrate. But like about a book, dude, No, no,
Speaker 1: that's not true. No that's not true. And we're not
Speaker 1: talking about No, he didn't do nothing terrible. He didn't
Speaker 1: do nothing about what it is. It's like when we're
Speaker 1: talking about culture and production. It's culture is like making
Speaker 1: sure you're doing the right things. And the quarterback you are,
Speaker 1: the CEO of the franchis to the face of the franchis.
Speaker 1: You gotta lead up and you gotta leave down alright, pop,
Speaker 1: all right? So you got that. And then also from
Speaker 1: a production standpoint, just doing your job and and and
Speaker 1: that's what we're at. It is like, instead of you
Speaker 1: doing certain things, we need you to make sure when
Speaker 1: you drop back, you understand your progressions. You understand it's
Speaker 1: covered three, So cover three. I'm working this side. But
Speaker 1: if they flow to this side and it's covered one
Speaker 1: post not read. Now I'm going on this side, and
Speaker 1: now I go one to three, and you got do
Speaker 1: that split you gotta do that like that. So now
Speaker 1: I come out to the line of scriments blue thirty two,
Speaker 1: Blue thirty two, the mic fifty fives the mic right,
Speaker 1: like you're getting all this information? All right, Pope, priests
Speaker 1: not read before I hike the ball. I know I'm
Speaker 1: working this side because of what the defense is showing me. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now I get the ball. I dropped back. They
Speaker 1: do something different. So now I had this process in place,
Speaker 1: so where if they if they stay what they was doing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna one to three back. That's what it is easy.
Speaker 1: But then they go to something else holding I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell mother might to get there. So now they did
Speaker 1: something else. Post now took the ball. They went from
Speaker 1: here to here. Now I gotta go bang bang bang,
Speaker 1: And you got to do that in a blink of
Speaker 1: an eye. You gotta study, you gotta do your job.
Speaker 1: So all these things that Russell Wilson, dak Presscott did,
Speaker 1: they now we're certainly had the conversations to essays point
Speaker 1: high football, i Q black quarterback is more than an athlete.
Speaker 1: So that's why you know a couple of people, well,
Speaker 1: people was kind of upset with the Wayne Haskins because
Speaker 1: not doing his job press on him. But it's the
Speaker 1: right one because if you do the right play, they're
Speaker 1: gonna congratulate you. You do the wrong play, they're gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why if he would have been producing on
Speaker 1: the field, can suck on the field. Dwayne Haskins, junior
Speaker 1: from Washington Football Football. I like how you said, still
Speaker 1: make that mistake, make that mistake. I just want to
Speaker 1: shot my homie out. He's he coaches kids, so this
Speaker 1: is all very annortant. No mean him, let me talk,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna look but that's real though, he wasn't
Speaker 1: producing on the field. Like if you're if you're a
Speaker 1: star on the field, you're gonna get some grapes. But
Speaker 1: that's why I went into that story because all that
Speaker 1: what I just said, I did that intentionally. I didn't
Speaker 1: do that to show you how much I know football.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, that's crazy. A lot of people don't understand.
Speaker 1: People probably think you go out there, you're just I'm
Speaker 1: just throwing the ball. And you know, there's a process.
Speaker 1: You gotta read and you gotta study. So you right back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. You gotta do what you gotta
Speaker 1: want to stop, do a good job in the classroom
Speaker 1: and make to show you're being a pro. And I
Speaker 1: think like to Fred's point, because we talked about this
Speaker 1: on the show, and a lot of times we crushed
Speaker 1: our guys and we had these conversations on these shows
Speaker 1: and we don't really reach out and say, look, all right,
Speaker 1: look you made a mistake. Now let us give you
Speaker 1: the game. And here it is. So Fred was like, look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna reach out to you and if you need us,
Speaker 1: we're here. You did that, Fred did that? Fred. Fred
Speaker 1: to me, I already already said it. I like, I
Speaker 1: am athletes because of what you are and Channing because
Speaker 1: I listened to him on six AM in Miami, Andsinko's
Speaker 1: already we illuminated. But Fred to me feels like I
Speaker 1: know him, like I grew up with somebody like you.
Speaker 1: You know. So I relate to Fred tell a lot
Speaker 1: more than what I do with everybody else. But it's
Speaker 1: all love. But you know, to me, that's dope. I
Speaker 1: am athlete with a great idea of few fifteen. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to lose weight, so I'm following that. I'm ting,
Speaker 1: but I do want to give a shout out because
Speaker 1: we drink champe Does as a podcast that we started
Speaker 1: four years ago to get flowers to all our five
Speaker 1: years ago, five years ago the legends when when when
Speaker 1: it comes to sports, you guys on a different regiment
Speaker 1: as far as routine, health wise, execution, commitment. And for
Speaker 1: you to be one of the Bears top one hundred players,
Speaker 1: for you to be in a ten thousand yard rush
Speaker 1: club members club chanting to do his shin and Ocho
Speaker 1: Cinco to be everything he is to me, I'm a
Speaker 1: sports guy, like he said, coach kids, He's all up
Speaker 1: to you exactly, and for you to be beve bade
Speaker 1: Mouth City for everybody else does bring it out. We
Speaker 1: got some gifts. That's what it is you're talking about.
Speaker 1: You're talking about am I good right here? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're talking about like health and worldness and you're trying
Speaker 1: to lose weight. That's you know, we talked about finances earlier,
Speaker 1: but we also got to head that conversation see about
Speaker 1: helping wellness. So y'all talked to me earlier about what
Speaker 1: I want to do, Like I know, I want to
Speaker 1: own a team. My passion, my purpose is to help
Speaker 1: people eat better. Train better, so we're not struggling because
Speaker 1: how we eat and how we approach that like it's
Speaker 1: killing us. So you know, that's what House of Athlete is.
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if I can open this.
Speaker 1: I got some gifts for y'all. We formulated supplements, man,
Speaker 1: we got care, We got all of that right, and
Speaker 1: we gotta create a space in our community where people understand.
Speaker 1: You gotta we gotta create a space in our community
Speaker 1: where we're understanding what a healthy car is, where the
Speaker 1: healthy fat is, with healthy veggie is, what the health
Speaker 1: what the healthy protein is. We don't know that fried
Speaker 1: chicken fast food. No, that's not the way. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we got some stuff for y'all. Alright,
Speaker 1: you're gonna put it over. I'm on the camera. We
Speaker 1: got in there. Okay, what the hell? So uh we
Speaker 1: go that's something I know that hoo do you got everything? Everything? Everything,
Speaker 1: quality everything? Because you said it Earlier's like, not only
Speaker 1: do we have an idea, we gotta make sure not
Speaker 1: only the product is good, but the systems and the operations.
Speaker 1: So when I go to your website and I buy
Speaker 1: something from you, because I want to support you, am
Speaker 1: I going to get that in three days? Do you
Speaker 1: have a fulfillment center only set up? Do you have
Speaker 1: email marketing set up? Do you have a bandit card?
Speaker 1: Do you have Do you also understand that that customer
Speaker 1: you just spent twenty dollars to acquire that lead? Now,
Speaker 1: how do you retain that? We're talking about lifetown value
Speaker 1: of a customer. You gotta set up systems and they
Speaker 1: gotta be automated. You've done this before. Hey, no, I'm
Speaker 1: studying it. Yea, we got you the gray set and
Speaker 1: then the black sweater that actually for you Too's gonna
Speaker 1: share what I read. Try to get a kippie's hat.
Speaker 1: And then here's the supplements, right, mental fitness, mental health
Speaker 1: for me? Thank you, thank you. You talked about post
Speaker 1: traumatic wrap. Yeah, sit down real quick, but supplements real quick.
Speaker 1: This is vintament I'm taking among everybody. Deal with anxiety.
Speaker 1: That's just natural, that's mental fatigue, fall anxiety, just something
Speaker 1: that we can just knock the edge off. That's all organic.
Speaker 1: Spending time with the best officers in the world, the
Speaker 1: people that helped the formula that rest supplement, we are
Speaker 1: we are sleep depride. You talk about science and you
Speaker 1: talk about just why we are sick, it's because a
Speaker 1: lot of times if we don't get the fundamentals down.
Speaker 1: Do you get just seven eight hours of sleep every night? No?
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, that's man, I got that.
Speaker 1: You don't mean just man, I got Yeah that boys
Speaker 1: like yeah, athletes. So you can find all of our
Speaker 1: products on House of athlete dot com. We have nutritional supplements.
Speaker 1: We have a friend, Jim Cole house house, and we
Speaker 1: have a public facility in western Florida where we train
Speaker 1: Jim Pop. So everyday athletes like you guys, as well
Speaker 1: as the elite pros as well as the college guys
Speaker 1: that are trying to make it into the just going
Speaker 1: tomorrow points. You gotta come. You gotta train with Ben
Speaker 1: I don't train with but you can train with Benize
Speaker 1: work who play. It might not be the best, No,
Speaker 1: but here's the thing, but he's nice. This is the thought.
Speaker 1: This is the thought behind it, right, like yeah, and
Speaker 1: then and then pittsburghs and in Florida. So that's a
Speaker 1: little mixed, a little everything, but the thought behind it.
Speaker 1: Did I say that? Right? Yeah? Alright, It's like the
Speaker 1: athlete were the healthiest people on the planet. And instead
Speaker 1: of going out and building other people's companies and brands.
Speaker 1: It's a four point four point three trillion dollar industry.
Speaker 1: You know, let's teach people health, health and wellness. Wellness.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the buzzword in the space right now.
Speaker 1: So instead of us going out and you know, there's
Speaker 1: all these other brands, all these other supplement companies, nutritional companies,
Speaker 1: people and kind of get I'm sorry, are you good?
Speaker 1: Because that same thing. Do y'all know that pandemic You
Speaker 1: couldn't even buy that in the package store. That was
Speaker 1: the hottest well, his rose was the hotest, hottest thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I was going out,
Speaker 1: requested it and we delivered it. Appreciate thank you that
Speaker 1: you know this. Okay, okay, let's okay, but but but
Speaker 1: it's not just that. It's to your point when you
Speaker 1: talk about quality stuff, and we think about Rick Ross.
Speaker 1: The first time I ever sipped about his belt Lars
Speaker 1: rose was during the pandemic. I went out, we had
Speaker 1: a little barbecue and I was like, let me try it.
Speaker 1: And it was the hottest thing, man, Like, it was smooth.
Speaker 1: I didn't travel the country, just the world, just like
Speaker 1: you sipping on different Rose's and that was so good.
Speaker 1: But that you know, yeah, shout out to Rick Ross,
Speaker 1: but shout out to you. Because House of Athlete is
Speaker 1: owned by Brandon Marshall. Like most athletes I can attest to,
Speaker 1: they're the face of it, they are not the majority
Speaker 1: owner of it. Most athletes that you see pushing brands
Speaker 1: like Brandon is the exacting with the own say said most.
Speaker 1: I said most he could be if there's anybody. Yeah, yeah, Sha,
Speaker 1: because Shack owned ship, so we're good. They're just yeah.
Speaker 1: But he's smart though. And then but he keep like
Speaker 1: the whole Papa john thing. The Papa John's they brought
Speaker 1: Papa John's had a controversy as well. Yeah, Johns came
Speaker 1: to to to rebuild their brand, and Sha, that's great,
Speaker 1: that's a great second. You haven't been involved with a
Speaker 1: team that was considered racist, Yeah, well would be everything.
Speaker 1: I know. I think, I think, I think, I think
Speaker 1: I think we saw this is an easy conversation. I
Speaker 1: think we saw in how uncomfortable some people are talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, race in the America. Okay, so it's like,
Speaker 1: are you okay with saying Black Lives Matter, just something simple,
Speaker 1: like forget the movement and the whole organization behind it,
Speaker 1: just to say so, whether that is a person or organization,
Speaker 1: we saw how uncomfortable people are, whether that's an owner
Speaker 1: not saying it. And you know what I mean, Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones never said it. You know what I mean
Speaker 1: said if you do this, we're gonna cut you in
Speaker 1: certain areas. Right, So, like there's a lot of owners
Speaker 1: that never there that still like stood up, locked arms
Speaker 1: or took a knee with the players. And this isn't
Speaker 1: a time where you have to have a point of view.
Speaker 1: It's not okay to say, you know what, politics, religion, race,
Speaker 1: We just don't discuss that anymore. Got you can't let
Speaker 1: when you're wealthy, you can, though, right, So, like when
Speaker 1: you're wealthy, you can be Mr Kraft with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: you can depen up with Meek mil you can build
Speaker 1: people out of jail, but you can also played golf
Speaker 1: with Trump in mar life. Because when you're wealthy, you
Speaker 1: have the privilege, you have the privilege of not choosing.
Speaker 1: And that's why they struggled because it was the first
Speaker 1: time where they didn't have the privilege to say, Look,
Speaker 1: I give to the you know, to the Double A CP,
Speaker 1: I get to the Negro College Fund. Why do I
Speaker 1: have to say the Black Lives matter? Because that's gonna
Speaker 1: mess up my dad. Hold on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I just want to I want to speak on something
Speaker 1: I so and it's a shameless plug at the same time.
Speaker 1: So I went, I do these documentary films and I
Speaker 1: went to South Africa recently. Why we gotta say, shameless plug.
Speaker 1: This is our platform. I just tell us. So, this
Speaker 1: is something that I because coming from the United States
Speaker 1: and going to South I went to South Africa to
Speaker 1: do one of my six film in the series. And
Speaker 1: the one thing that I that I thought was really
Speaker 1: different than the United States eights because you know, they
Speaker 1: had a part time and apartheid in our lifetime is
Speaker 1: very recent and something that something that US in the
Speaker 1: US might think, like, man, that seems like some ancient
Speaker 1: ship that happened to that. But I mean, now, in
Speaker 1: the way that times are in the US doesn't seem
Speaker 1: so ancient anymore. But growing up in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: it seemed like some ancient ship to this. So you
Speaker 1: know what I thought was crazy about South Africa is
Speaker 1: that they spoke openly about racism, about apartheid. White dude
Speaker 1: sitting in the restaurant right here, black dude right here,
Speaker 1: and he's like apart time dot dot dot and then
Speaker 1: the white dude, different view point of view. No, but
Speaker 1: by and then they had a dialogue. You captured all this,
Speaker 1: I want to say I did. I No, No, I
Speaker 1: want to say I did. I don't think I captured
Speaker 1: exactly what I experienced, to be honest with you, to
Speaker 1: be because I was. I was going over there to
Speaker 1: document hip hop and South Africa, so that was my
Speaker 1: main point of view. So I'm talking about by me
Speaker 1: and the restaurant. You know what I'm saying, me just
Speaker 1: walking around. So you went over there to get something
Speaker 1: like hip hop and you experienced something totally different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it was, It was, It was extraordinary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick it back off what you're saying. Because
Speaker 1: I went over to Joe Berg and Kate two thousand
Speaker 1: three five parts Fresh Right off the Hills, everything that
Speaker 1: was going on, visited um Mandela childhood home. I went there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Visited the island where he
Speaker 1: was locked up in Cape Town. So I can I
Speaker 1: can vouce for everything he's saying, because it was still fresh.
Speaker 1: You have you have, uh the Afrikaans which is jet
Speaker 1: black color, which is different to us. We understand that.
Speaker 1: And then as it relates to what we have in
Speaker 1: the States, right you after Dutch rape the black those
Speaker 1: are the whites, but they raped the black women that
Speaker 1: created created the colors, and we got mixed breezes in between,
Speaker 1: we got mixed breeze the Europeans that came here, right
Speaker 1: and they rape the black women. Slave owners that rape
Speaker 1: the black women's you got the chance, you feel me?
Speaker 1: So it's all the same shiplatos, but it's deep in
Speaker 1: in South Africa because it's more relevant. I mean, this
Speaker 1: just was two thousand. They talk about it very openly
Speaker 1: and very like they do. We don't do that. So
Speaker 1: why is that such? Why was that so such an
Speaker 1: so impactful for you becacause here is so like you
Speaker 1: can't talk about and then they can't talk about racism,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like over there, the black dude,
Speaker 1: this is apart time, it just happened. What was your
Speaker 1: inn nection though? Well, I mean I was doing my film,
Speaker 1: but my hole. But no, Yeah, when you were in Africa, right,
Speaker 1: if you're not white going to Africa, you feel a
Speaker 1: connection to the people, to the Cuban Cuban I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what I found out when I was in
Speaker 1: South Afard the Cubans were the only ones that ever
Speaker 1: beat the white Africans in a war. Yeah. See, so
Speaker 1: you feel a connection. I mean that was a indirect correct, yeah, direct?
Speaker 1: What is this film coming out? Lookin any more? And
Speaker 1: I know my homie, My homie was a rapper out
Speaker 1: here in Miami who you would look at at face
Speaker 1: value and think he's a white dude. Found out he's colored.
Speaker 1: He has his grandfather from Cape Town. And then he
Speaker 1: looked we found his birth certificate. He's colored, brought out
Speaker 1: to recognize. So what's the name of his film? It's
Speaker 1: Coming Home South Africa? What is it coming out with?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in discussions for the whole series Coming Home.
Speaker 1: I did Cuba, Haiti, Vietnam, Columbia. Oh my goodness, right,
Speaker 1: nor they're gonna look at yo, we'd be out this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to drink champs in South Africa working. They
Speaker 1: were like, you don't because like at first, like you know,
Speaker 1: I just got into this whole podcast, this whole content world,
Speaker 1: you know, just eight months ago, and now you're going
Speaker 1: on Instagram and everything is drink champs. You know that
Speaker 1: for real? Yeah, so many people, everybody showed amazing and
Speaker 1: now that we're going through this, right learning from y'all,
Speaker 1: we got people in Italy watching crazy because we are
Speaker 1: the beacon everything and you know, back to think about it,
Speaker 1: let me tell you why I got the Travelers. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely working and going to continue to work because the
Speaker 1: same thought me and E F Ben had. We said, y'all,
Speaker 1: they was the first take god bless first take off
Speaker 1: was was skip bliss, undiscmuted these other things. The only
Speaker 1: difference is I feel like we're just as good as them.
Speaker 1: But the thing is the show that actually played the game.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so much. Yeah, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that this is this is a real DJ.
Speaker 1: Like I try to get him a DJ party. If
Speaker 1: you don't got viny, he don't want to. Yeah, thinking
Speaker 1: that it was fantastic, Yeah, because you know that's a
Speaker 1: stuff that's a real DJ. They want to be next. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you so somebody want to play this right right. There's
Speaker 1: no record labor telling you what you can I say,
Speaker 1: there's no telling what you can say. And that's where
Speaker 1: people that's what people want here, who are y'all for real?
Speaker 1: But this is with me and this this guy said,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's just people that we know, is
Speaker 1: about that life that that's just like us. So now
Speaker 1: you have all these other podcasts, you have all these
Speaker 1: other whatever whatever. And I'm not saying we're the original
Speaker 1: because I want to pack myself up. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: because it's the truth. You can actually google this, we know,
Speaker 1: and like we're the first. Like I looked at you know,
Speaker 1: Kenny Smith just because I like doing this key Kenny
Speaker 1: Smiths from my hood. He does what's that ship called
Speaker 1: in the inside of the NBA, And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't remember him winning the championship with Houston, him
Speaker 1: coming left Rack whod and bringing the trophy. That's that
Speaker 1: ship was ill for me. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that meant, but this is what
Speaker 1: it means. Now. It's like, all right, cool. You know
Speaker 1: there's not a rapper who con front of me that's
Speaker 1: not after you in front of me because they know
Speaker 1: I was in the trenches. I didn't go then and fail.
Speaker 1: I went there in one you know, just like my
Speaker 1: partner he went there in one and now together. That
Speaker 1: can't front of me, like you know, I'm not the
Speaker 1: fat You don't know what the FBI just come over
Speaker 1: here and fun. But what I'm saying, come on, fucking fun?
Speaker 1: But do you find? Do you find? Like it? Goddamn shot?
Speaker 1: But when I'm thinking, who could have seen the people
Speaker 1: that saving us? Who's gonna say that I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: My brother can kill mad you this bro? How y'all
Speaker 1: boys feel about the your show? Yeah, and and everybody
Speaker 1: that's in your industry coming back with the comments that
Speaker 1: they have with Black I wrote to see the niggers
Speaker 1: on your show. Everybody calls him to fans and I
Speaker 1: don't know him. Maybe you guys do, but everybody calls him,
Speaker 1: but then people still go to him and spill everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't. I'm on the outside. I don't know.
Speaker 1: They still got a little to get. No, it's not
Speaker 1: stop to take you said, why why are you saying?
Speaker 1: Guys not coming to y'all first? They do? They do?
Speaker 1: We can't compare to him like we're great, We're great, like,
Speaker 1: but to think about it is the think about it is,
Speaker 1: it's like, what's the guy that I'm cool of, guy
Speaker 1: who's was to kill Tupac? M Um, the guy he's
Speaker 1: in Vegas right now, we're supposed to kill them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: police officer, nobody knows his name, whatever it is. But
Speaker 1: what that guy goog Well if you google that guy,
Speaker 1: I'm google that has no mob James is the guy
Speaker 1: that does the podcast. Yeah, keep you d So the
Speaker 1: thing about it is, you know, I don't know keep deposition,
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever whatever, but I do know that lad.
Speaker 1: He'd be paid him to do. He paid for interviews.
Speaker 1: He has to at this point, we don't do that.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying every interview. And that's the
Speaker 1: reason why, you know, going back, you know, um, I
Speaker 1: want to reiterate because you know we had the interview
Speaker 1: of the Year with and you know I've been you know,
Speaker 1: I've been throwing my shots. This ain't as ain't little
Speaker 1: flat from right and then he doesn't deserve it. I'm
Speaker 1: playing with you, is you you have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with it. Just establishment and Larry Jackson, who is actually
Speaker 1: the big homie. It's my man, like I love Larry Jackson.
Speaker 1: But the fact is, when when you seek that emminem
Speaker 1: interview at the end of the year, it was so
Speaker 1: many people who tagged us. It was just like look,
Speaker 1: trying to take your interview out and it was just
Speaker 1: like all right, great, and it's a weird thing. It's
Speaker 1: a weird thing sometimes because we're part of our establishment,
Speaker 1: but we're not really a part of no establishment. We're
Speaker 1: like the We're definitely not a part of the South.
Speaker 1: We're like funk with them, but we're looking at our
Speaker 1: own little like the galaxy, you know, have nine planets,
Speaker 1: like we're in the lefty planets. And then like how
Speaker 1: they they don't they don't. It's like how does this work?
Speaker 1: Like y'all sitting here and it's like where are they?
Speaker 1: They got all this type of alcohol liquor sitting on
Speaker 1: the table, Like how does this work? At shot? You
Speaker 1: know what a man about this? You've never seen this.
Speaker 1: We didn't get take for six months with CBS because
Speaker 1: they didn't know show on CBS Radio we Arry King,
Speaker 1: I don't know, yes, I can't. Yeah. They were showing
Speaker 1: us the charts and we was winning. But what we
Speaker 1: did sixty minutes and what we did it was so
Speaker 1: they tried to like and we were like, nah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna stick with the same ship, the same form with U.
Speaker 1: And like that's why I bring he brun it up.
Speaker 1: You bring it up. It's when we're all said there
Speaker 1: on y'all show, he said, Man, I did this ship
Speaker 1: a decade. Yeah, and I the difference between me and
Speaker 1: Roses I had. I did almost a decade and features
Speaker 1: and that really get to the money, not really getting
Speaker 1: the money. But when I got here, I only had
Speaker 1: eight months and I realized after that eight months, I
Speaker 1: knew how to turn it into what's my man said,
Speaker 1: um algorithms. I know that. I know what I said,
Speaker 1: Oh this is alright, but is gonna pay right here?
Speaker 1: That's gonna do right there? And it might have been
Speaker 1: a little Michael dollars, but it may at the end.
Speaker 1: It's like you know what you don't have, and you know,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's not about batting down. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, if I put sixteen million, put six teams
Speaker 1: million in the stock market and it's conservative and it
Speaker 1: brings you back, you know, a couple of percent then
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a million dollars a year. So then
Speaker 1: what really is is it about the sixteen million ars?
Speaker 1: It about that money that my money is making me.
Speaker 1: So when you what you're talking about, I got this
Speaker 1: platform and I got blood wires over here, I got
Speaker 1: this person over here, and collectively it's bringing me in X.
Speaker 1: What's covering my lifetime, my lifestyle plus this, that's what
Speaker 1: that's about. The shot got them so two or three growing,
Speaker 1: and let's not forget we got I forgot him Colombia
Speaker 1: and white crazy. We got this is all black owned
Speaker 1: Jordan's I'm talking about. That's all black everything, all hands black. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a name for the hatline yet you know,
Speaker 1: so here's what Here's here's the deal. Like when we
Speaker 1: came together, like one of the things that we thought
Speaker 1: about and I'm still learning from North like Nordy, you know,
Speaker 1: like Bro really put me on game and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about thirty minutes like bang bang bang bang bang, Like
Speaker 1: this is new to me. I know, the wellness space.
Speaker 1: But when we came together, we it was like and
Speaker 1: he called it, you know, quarantine Dreams is like we
Speaker 1: all in the same neighborhood. Let's start this, let's see
Speaker 1: what happened. And now that we're studying the game and
Speaker 1: people who came before us, it's like every time he
Speaker 1: come on the show, he wearing hats every single time,
Speaker 1: and when he gets frustrated, you're gonna see him doing this.
Speaker 1: Then when you look at our lives chat and we
Speaker 1: got ten thousand people waiting to go when we launched
Speaker 1: our show, which is crazy for YouTube. Right, they're saying,
Speaker 1: what is Fred Taylor wearing? Like we want so yeah,
Speaker 1: we got, we got, we got sprints, we got collection
Speaker 1: come off and it's not like we're not trying to
Speaker 1: come out, We're not trying to take advantage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got. We gotta we gotta take a shot. Drink,
Speaker 1: don't see then my homework drink And I wanted to
Speaker 1: emphaside built that show to you about like what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll drink each other, brands necessary, I'll do everything.
Speaker 1: I like it, No need like there's no cameral conversations
Speaker 1: you gotta keep bringing to man. Know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is when I was watching, I was doing my homework
Speaker 1: because I want to make sure on one point, right,
Speaker 1: So when I was making sure that I knew a
Speaker 1: little bit about everybody said, he's talking about you on
Speaker 1: your work to cover you. I typed this myself and me,
Speaker 1: did you come every year? But I noticed that happen
Speaker 1: and I thought, my own ship. But this is Miami heat,
Speaker 1: this Miami heat. But I said, I want a Fred
Speaker 1: Taylor hat? Can I get a hat? See? But here's
Speaker 1: the thing is, you guys are creating value. Fred Nori
Speaker 1: uh drink to create people, people appreciate. Why why do
Speaker 1: I watch it? Why do I watch Drink Champs? Because
Speaker 1: like y'all got for real on the show, and I'm
Speaker 1: learning something. What can I learn from the people who
Speaker 1: come from where I come from, experience where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1: That when you're talking about you know, here's this, here's that,
Speaker 1: this is what we're supporting that I'm support it. That's
Speaker 1: why that makes sense to me. The advantage you guys
Speaker 1: for seven years to you was with a lot of
Speaker 1: people on a different corporations platform speaking NFL and inside
Speaker 1: of the NFL. It's not Drink Champs and drink said,
Speaker 1: motherfucker can not inside the NFL. But you got the
Speaker 1: experience and you said, you know what I got developed
Speaker 1: this into my own platform. Teach me that. You know
Speaker 1: who talks to me? Who taught me that all the
Speaker 1: smoke and drink chance? Listen, listen like, no, I'm being
Speaker 1: honest with but it's true. The thing about I've been
Speaker 1: I've been on inside seven years as an active without
Speaker 1: inside experience. Well, I think it developed when NFL you're
Speaker 1: still playing. I was the first active athlete to be
Speaker 1: So what I would do is what in the season.
Speaker 1: And this is why I end up leaving Chicago coming
Speaker 1: to the Jets, because they looked at me and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't look I was the first person
Speaker 1: ever do it. So they looked at me and they said,
Speaker 1: and this is to our point, like we gotta you.
Speaker 1: We hot actors, entertainers, rappers, musicians, athletes, got strike. You
Speaker 1: should have had this drink chance back in nineteen would
Speaker 1: have to say is that they came to me and
Speaker 1: they said, Brandon, we don't want you doing inside the NFL.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. We want you to focus all
Speaker 1: on football. And I looked at the owner and we
Speaker 1: was actually walking. It was it was like thirty degrees outside.
Speaker 1: We's walking from the indoor today Mr mccassy, the owner
Speaker 1: of the other facility of the of the Chicago Beers,
Speaker 1: and I looked out, I said, I said, I said,
Speaker 1: Mr McCaskey, dance. We have to stop the music, damn it.
Speaker 1: It's part of the show. Yeah, for real, like this,
Speaker 1: it's part of the form. This is dak Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: So so I'm walking back with him out and he's
Speaker 1: telling me basically, we want you to only focus on Folko,
Speaker 1: I said, Mr mccassey, check this out, just like this real.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys own your family owned this team
Speaker 1: for how long? And I said, when I'm done, you
Speaker 1: guys were still on this team. It's amazing platform for y'all.
Speaker 1: I said, I got, what a couple more years to
Speaker 1: maximize my earnings and build something that can last longer.
Speaker 1: I said, right now is the time for me to
Speaker 1: start what I'm trying to do. What's up? Bro? Oh
Speaker 1: damn brother? How you know me? Bro? I boys said Brandon, Yeah, Bro,
Speaker 1: that's that's what's up. Bro. Like I always you know,
Speaker 1: I'm always taking it back when I run into a
Speaker 1: legend in the entertainment space and they know me, right,
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty dope. That Jets. What listen, what what
Speaker 1: were you talking about? Putting that that that green that
Speaker 1: Jets Norry just broke something. He had some breaking news.
Speaker 1: He was like, the only reason why he had Jets
Speaker 1: fan because the jersey was cheaper that his dad. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing is dad could afford. So what was
Speaker 1: doing Jets fans instead of a Giants fan? Oh? The
Speaker 1: respected respect spec answer Dan, that's the legend. Appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Yeah answer yeah, great, Yeah, we don't know you out
Speaker 1: here coming on next we fire fest. Yeah. I called
Speaker 1: it the best act. Like I said this on on
Speaker 1: Clubhouse the other day, Like why isn't everybody on the
Speaker 1: clubhouse down on? I car in my line that I
Speaker 1: call you and tell you I said that this nor
Speaker 1: it's the best cap of secret. They don't know nobody yet.
Speaker 1: Will We're gonna go our card, I car, tell us
Speaker 1: what to do, tell us we go through, Tell tell
Speaker 1: us what are doing? Any mic? Does it expire you?
Speaker 1: But I think clubhouse I can't reach, I can't reach.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I see that. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get n I c N just like that
Speaker 1: two twos. I see O N N bet all right,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question. Bro Let me ask you a question. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is real, right, you you fail on a on
Speaker 1: a on a on a like globally, like tell us
Speaker 1: the inspiration how you keep getting back up because a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand when you're entrepreneur, you know
Speaker 1: you you you only win one out of ten times, right,
Speaker 1: so like now you icon is next and you keep pushing,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to the festival all of that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying to you my my last
Speaker 1: question and I'm I'm I'm a landed plan on past
Speaker 1: the phone, but like I think people need to hear, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying our stories on how perseverance,
Speaker 1: Like you know you you you won at the highest level.
Speaker 1: You also you also you also have some els, so
Speaker 1: like how do you get up? And then now we're
Speaker 1: talking about icon, right, so talk to us about you know,
Speaker 1: that inspiration and that perseverance because as an entrepreneur, because
Speaker 1: we're all trying to start something, we all start trying
Speaker 1: to trying to launch our brands, and people don't understand
Speaker 1: that you only win one out of ten times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what people don't understand. You know, I'll get some
Speaker 1: of the stuff to saying because breaking up a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I think that's just what you're saying that you know,
Speaker 1: failures and going onto you so you know, you know, Phil,
Speaker 1: you only brings you to your next best thing? He
Speaker 1: said fail He said, failure only brings you to your
Speaker 1: next best thing. Yeah, it's like you like and you
Speaker 1: can't who every day. You know what I'm saying, dude,
Speaker 1: You know you play your whole career hoping you in
Speaker 1: one of them, right right? You pless well with hopes
Speaker 1: saying with whole saying with hold say he said you
Speaker 1: only gotta be one, You only gotta be right one one.
Speaker 1: That's that's you only right one? And what the whole
Speaker 1: also said, This genius thing they do is adn't you
Speaker 1: U if that against the wall and you know there's
Speaker 1: nothing else to do but fight and go forward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got legend because for some people that's a hard thing.
Speaker 1: Some people rather lay down the job, you understand, But listen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I rather I got down my feet and motherfuck you
Speaker 1: live on my knee. Yeah, let y'all love bro. Tomorrow
Speaker 1: you're doing drink at tomorrow we're doing see you know
Speaker 1: what a no this is y'all go for three hours
Speaker 1: and four only. It's classic. Let me just tell yourself,
Speaker 1: so so tell me why y'all said for real? Was
Speaker 1: like like that was like was that the was that
Speaker 1: the best show? And was that defining moment for drink out?
Speaker 1: Why we have different perspectives? You go ahead, all right,
Speaker 1: what happens is last year two years ago was we
Speaker 1: we've been pressure cleaning outside just that fariver, we we
Speaker 1: pressure cleaning right now to a show called rat Radar.
Speaker 1: You will haven't say it again to a show called
Speaker 1: rat Radar. I mean, I don't really compared to it.
Speaker 1: But last year I felt like we whipped the ass
Speaker 1: like everything, and then not not this year. Come on
Speaker 1: last year and then at the the end they had drake.
Speaker 1: I feel like, damn they won with the end of
Speaker 1: the year. So this year they actually gratefully bowed out
Speaker 1: because of COVID. You came out and everything, and then
Speaker 1: right at the end of the year, we didn't plan it.
Speaker 1: We didn't plan it was for rell like for all,
Speaker 1: like you know, it was like seven times you cancel
Speaker 1: right every time when people cancel on us. No, no,
Speaker 1: we've been here and people cancel waiting because that's all
Speaker 1: we need to hear though that and that is the
Speaker 1: most hurtful thing that was happening. Let me just say
Speaker 1: something to think about it. You can't take it personally.
Speaker 1: You can't don't take it personally. You can't take it
Speaker 1: person over the next day you shout, But there about
Speaker 1: it is this. I'm not a radio station. So when
Speaker 1: I set up, I setting up for you, right, this
Speaker 1: artist is all right, what's his name? Why you close?
Speaker 1: Placific not drinking that again? You want to drinks? Ye?
Speaker 1: I don't like you Pacific and Civil was late? He
Speaker 1: doesn't you No, no, no, you paid you paid the
Speaker 1: camera man. You paid the same. This is everything outside,
Speaker 1: So if you don't show up, it's our look from
Speaker 1: the spinning on you. Though. And this is why, specifically
Speaker 1: this conversation is so amazing. Here's the problem. Where athletes
Speaker 1: did it at the highest level, entertainers did at the
Speaker 1: highest level. Game taken away from you. Your mike is
Speaker 1: taken away from you. Now you gotta start from the bottom,
Speaker 1: and you gotta call that person you called me, No
Speaker 1: assistant called me. Right, there's so but here's the game though,
Speaker 1: Like how do you go from being at the top
Speaker 1: of the game and traveling the world going to dude
Speaker 1: do dolls of Dorf, Germany. So so now you call,
Speaker 1: you don't want calling, you don't want paying this person.
Speaker 1: Like literally, I'm gonna zail you. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you this a check. That's the thing, is like
Speaker 1: why most guys don't make it to the next level
Speaker 1: because they can't get off that hard, hot horse. They
Speaker 1: can't get off that pedestal. You called for real seven
Speaker 1: times because you answered back, yeah, but that's cool. But
Speaker 1: but you gotta understand, though, you gotta be willing to
Speaker 1: humble yourself and come back, like you go from the
Speaker 1: mountaintop to the valley, and now you're making the calls
Speaker 1: and now you gotta say, you know what, he canceled
Speaker 1: on me the third time, but I'm gonna call him again.
Speaker 1: Let me do it as a wrapper. This is not
Speaker 1: as a rapper. Carass told me being told no, it's good,
Speaker 1: I did not understand that. I wanted to kick him
Speaker 1: me and me and told no it was good. But
Speaker 1: he's like your certain people might not know who the
Speaker 1: funk you are so if they tell you no, that's
Speaker 1: actually cool because there's people that's gonna say like that's that.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I broke up Tom Brady earlier
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown. It's just almost like this is like
Speaker 1: some gang ship to me, almost gangish. Brady said, you
Speaker 1: ain't sucking with me, ain't gonna pay me? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hire because the Patriots didn't want to higher. But
Speaker 1: Tom Brady fell in love with him. Yeah, let him
Speaker 1: stay in his crib. He was bringing a wherever he
Speaker 1: went bas gangster ship. So you like Tom now, yeah,
Speaker 1: in my mind he got gold teeth yea in my mind.
Speaker 1: In my mind he went to us a free market
Speaker 1: and the like let me tell you something, bro, And
Speaker 1: he brought his man grown to like what you say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was tired that year. If that's not holy ship, Like,
Speaker 1: look look at all we're guilty. What do I do?
Speaker 1: You want to show how we're guilty? Let me show
Speaker 1: you how we go show me. We have the same
Speaker 1: show called militym I don't know that true. Behind it
Speaker 1: didn't work. It didn't work, No, no, it didn't work,
Speaker 1: don't you We didn't want it to keep it going right, No, Brot,
Speaker 1: we just stopped doing it. We did not want to
Speaker 1: do it. We stopped doing it because you went on
Speaker 1: tour and I went on to me. We just didn't
Speaker 1: make We didn't make a dime off of that. But right, okay,
Speaker 1: what we're doing? Uh huh, what's the point I was
Speaker 1: trying to make. I have no idea you were saying
Speaker 1: like like left people behind or you weren't Tom Brady
Speaker 1: Brady ship, that's what you had, Tom, but like he
Speaker 1: got grills another like rock and then you know everybody
Speaker 1: in the Antonio, Yeah, you was sent especially because now
Speaker 1: granted it is his white privilege that lets him bring
Speaker 1: a trouble black player to a team. Yes, because a black,
Speaker 1: a black quarterback would not be able to say the
Speaker 1: available asset to fill his back, my mama, A black
Speaker 1: quarterback will not be able to say, yo, I know
Speaker 1: my man's is crazy. But to do that, absolutely, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Because he it didn't happen right right,
Speaker 1: he know he was there. She's about before she actually
Speaker 1: got there. We've been in those discussions and it just
Speaker 1: do what he did, you know, Russell Russell, Russell want
Speaker 1: whoever the top dog isn't gonna come in and help
Speaker 1: and Russell. Before I actually got there, we were talking
Speaker 1: general manager, FaceTime and head coach, and Russell's like, I
Speaker 1: want this guy, and they're like, come back. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a good fit. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: good fit. Now. When the Giants cut me, then the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks slid as a deal and they then they
Speaker 1: brought me in. Now, she's right what she's saying, but
Speaker 1: I pushed the conversation forward. You know, it's got this
Speaker 1: word out there called nepotism. Nepotism is like when you
Speaker 1: get on, basically put your people on right. So you
Speaker 1: know why when other people get on and they put
Speaker 1: their people on, why we can't do that because when
Speaker 1: we mess up with the whole race is held against us. So,
Speaker 1: as a black woman lawyer, when I came to the NFL,
Speaker 1: if I would have been not good or dishonest, they
Speaker 1: would have been like, that's why we can't hire anybody
Speaker 1: from an ABC. She went to Hampton. We don't know
Speaker 1: that school. We got to go back to ye. But
Speaker 1: that's that's real, right, So when we mess up, our
Speaker 1: whole race has to pay for it. White people don't
Speaker 1: have that concern. So they'll put on their cousin, they'll
Speaker 1: put on their best friend that probably is not qualified
Speaker 1: for the job, because what they do know is that
Speaker 1: if Billy doesn't work out, you're not gonna say never
Speaker 1: hire a white person again. When Brandon doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna say is we just we just cannot.
Speaker 1: We have to be really more strategic about the schools
Speaker 1: we recruit from. We have that problem. Now. Granted we
Speaker 1: shouldn't feed into that, but that's real. So when I
Speaker 1: put someone on from Hampton or Family or another HBCU,
Speaker 1: I literally look at them and say, whatever you do,
Speaker 1: everyone that comes from where you come from will pay
Speaker 1: for it. We just qualified, just to be easy to say,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, but still whatever I do. So when I
Speaker 1: came to the NFL and I busted my ass and
Speaker 1: the executives fell in love with me, there now are
Speaker 1: way more HBCU alumni at the National Football League from
Speaker 1: when I was there. But that's because of me, right
Speaker 1: if I would have sucked that up. See, this is
Speaker 1: why we need Ivy League. We really have, you know.
Speaker 1: But because I came in there and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: went to Hampton. I went to family law, and I
Speaker 1: know my ship, and guess what, I can look at
Speaker 1: some creative and tell you that's offensive, right, like how
Speaker 1: you're how you are marketing Antonio Brown. So I used
Speaker 1: to review creative and we were currently finding Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: for all of his celebrations. So he was getting fined
Speaker 1: every time. But then if I look at the commercials
Speaker 1: that I'm reviewing, they're showing him dancing. So we're making
Speaker 1: money off of his celebrations, but then we're also taking
Speaker 1: money out of his pocket for the same celebrations. I'm
Speaker 1: the only black person on the email chain rights. So
Speaker 1: when I talked about when you get into the room,
Speaker 1: how do you use your seat, how do you use
Speaker 1: your position? I knew that if I didn't call it out,
Speaker 1: nobody else would. And so I said, so you're saying
Speaker 1: so you're saying, they're saying an Tonio Brown scores a touchdown,
Speaker 1: he do the dances. The NFL says, this is against
Speaker 1: the shield what we stand for. You gotta pay finding.
Speaker 1: But then the sponsors in the taking that and they
Speaker 1: are now using that as commercial. Three years ago, Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown was in his prime. There was you could not
Speaker 1: watch TV without saying a commercial with Antonio Brown and
Speaker 1: he was on a covered man exactly most of those
Speaker 1: celebrations he was fined for. But but yet I loves
Speaker 1: are making money off of that, and the NFL is
Speaker 1: anybody making money after that? I could not sit and
Speaker 1: watch a black man be fine for something that the
Speaker 1: white corporators making money off. What was the reaction to
Speaker 1: you saying that? How did that get correct him? Or
Speaker 1: did it? What could they say? I said, how can
Speaker 1: we promote something that we're finding the same player for?
Speaker 1: And they said, you right, what happened they did? They
Speaker 1: did not use the same creator. We're more, we are more,
Speaker 1: And I would say, and it might be because it
Speaker 1: didn't find him, but not do the creator. No, the
Speaker 1: find had already happened, right, So the fine type of
Speaker 1: about football team. So you know what I did? I said,
Speaker 1: every commercial that Antonio Brown is in, we need to
Speaker 1: send it to the same department that is finding him.
Speaker 1: And if they don't sign off, if they don't sign off,
Speaker 1: then we can't use it in our creative because what
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do is eat off of the same
Speaker 1: thing that we're finding him for. So we're taking money
Speaker 1: off of this black man. Y yeah, yea yeah, and
Speaker 1: that and that you're doing and not to change what
Speaker 1: we're doing. That's a change going back to them. But
Speaker 1: that's what happens when so when we criticize people for
Speaker 1: working for the man, we want people to work for
Speaker 1: the man because if we're not in those rooms, it's
Speaker 1: going to continue to happen. You want, you want, you
Speaker 1: want a few that are in those rooms making If
Speaker 1: there was no Troy Vincent, can you you don't even
Speaker 1: know where the NFL would be. I got a better one.
Speaker 1: What about because jay Z he got criticized for because entertainment,
Speaker 1: not because he's a political but no, no, no, yeah right,
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people like how like Caps
Speaker 1: not in the league. Wise jay Z sitting at the
Speaker 1: table with the commissioner and making this type of deal
Speaker 1: and me I'm sitting back like, well, first again, jay
Speaker 1: Z showing us why he's genius. To her point, if
Speaker 1: we don't have jay Z in the room, then we're
Speaker 1: not gonna have someone having that discussion. But it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be an athlete or an entertaining matter to And I
Speaker 1: don't care if you if you come if I'm getting
Speaker 1: in the room because I got barbs. I don't care
Speaker 1: if I'm getting the room because I got how many followers,
Speaker 1: it don't matter. But when I get in that room,
Speaker 1: to her point, and she always says, this were in
Speaker 1: my dorm, how am I representing us? Right? And that's
Speaker 1: why you know, for me, when jay Z did that deal,
Speaker 1: I said, it's genius because now jay Z could potentially
Speaker 1: be the reason why we see the first black owner
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He could ask you something. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to cut you off, but how was
Speaker 1: your relationship you am for uh, the relationship will probably,
Speaker 1: but that was like an open relationship, like you could
Speaker 1: could you call him? I can call you what you call.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can face time Roger and yeah,
Speaker 1: because I ain't like you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he super let me try to FaceTime. We have someone
Speaker 1: season one, they called her uncle Rob because because we
Speaker 1: talked to him and he picked up. But now I said,
Speaker 1: that's my thing with him. You know, he know I
Speaker 1: ain't even call me. I'm aout that I'm aout that
Speaker 1: I'm about the trial right now. But you know, we
Speaker 1: asked about the relationship. You know, I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: it depends on what type of discussion we're having, because
Speaker 1: I look at it as a business. As a business,
Speaker 1: you know, this is we're talking about a ten billion
Speaker 1: dollar industry. We're talking about multimillion dollar athletes. So when
Speaker 1: you're a CEO, sometimes we gotta make the hard decision.
Speaker 1: You gotta think about how do we win now, and
Speaker 1: then how do we also win in ten years. Right,
Speaker 1: So Roger Cadell, you know, like we don't always agree
Speaker 1: with him, and to me, like I don't pick up
Speaker 1: the phone and I would say, like I don't agree
Speaker 1: with that move you just made. I'll get on showtime
Speaker 1: inside the NFL no matter what, and like I don't
Speaker 1: agree what he said. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, look here's the situation. Is how
Speaker 1: I feel, but this is what I think we should do.
Speaker 1: And he listens. And then at the same time I
Speaker 1: also said, hey, I'm doing this. I'm doing this fund raise.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to raise five thousand dollars just playing pinkbone.
Speaker 1: When you come, I'm there. And he also writes a check. Right, So,
Speaker 1: like I had thirty two bosses, like people don't realize
Speaker 1: he not everybody like er. He works for the owners.
Speaker 1: He works for the owners. Do you think your good
Speaker 1: I mean that people literally want to indict Roger Goodell,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they understand how complex the NFL is. Right,
Speaker 1: he has to go into a room with thirty two
Speaker 1: people and say what do you want to do? And
Speaker 1: guess what He's gonna take all the heat for it.
Speaker 1: He answer smart, and he's smart everything the comany. He
Speaker 1: wasn't making a lot of the decisions he had. He
Speaker 1: was taking phone calls from thirty two owners every day
Speaker 1: and figuring out what is a month? Y'all right? So
Speaker 1: that's him as a person, and him and the leaders
Speaker 1: get that, Sigguard, I'm sorry, said they're chatting, they tested
Speaker 1: anymore anyway, We won't get you the world where because
Speaker 1: you're like laying four years. What am I missing? Because
Speaker 1: I don't smokes, just missing enlightenment and enlightening men on
Speaker 1: conversation and overall's perspective of everybody's intuition of facts. Pressip
Speaker 1: lead on me. Yeah, I just said short drink Champ.
Speaker 1: But there's a smoke chance, I see the Keith smoke chance. Yes,
Speaker 1: heavy heavy percentage. Just so you know, we got the
Speaker 1: new Smoke Chans podcast coming out. Um Chin being young
Speaker 1: really might move induce coming out. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I got to continue Smoke Champs. Let's take take your
Speaker 1: time ship. No, but listen the day I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the brand. At the end of the day, I want
Speaker 1: to do my shameless block drink Chaps salt salutely salute.
Speaker 1: You know he's got a cook his hat dog. We
Speaker 1: got smoke Champs coming out, we just announced that. But
Speaker 1: for y'all podcast, we would like to take control of
Speaker 1: the audience. You know what I mean. And this this
Speaker 1: you know, Drink Champs network. This is what we're doing.
Speaker 1: We live out here, Network Networks. It will be a
Speaker 1: new summer. Just the audio. You do whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do with what show time let me do just
Speaker 1: said everybody every other is whatever you could do it.
Speaker 1: But the audios that because you can still sell it
Speaker 1: to show TI still sell to Amazon. We know the game,
Speaker 1: so letsigate you don't know it. We here, yeah, we
Speaker 1: gag ya ya ya. Athletes entertainers out there right now,
Speaker 1: start to podcast right now. I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something as much as drink chance
Speaker 1: has been successful, as much as whatever. But I will
Speaker 1: never under estimate the fucking driver's people who drive fed
Speaker 1: Ex trucks, people who drive the ups trucks, people who
Speaker 1: drive the fucking Carmen Sherman trucks with the soft tissue.
Speaker 1: What guy has you know the Carmen ship com he
Speaker 1: Carmen Herman. I'm just like, I don't know whatever that
Speaker 1: ship's harmon, ship is off the Sherman. It's tough to
Speaker 1: shout out to all of them, but that's what we're
Speaker 1: all taking control of. Construct We are trying. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: You can't lose if you build it all your own terms.
Speaker 1: By the way, if this ship doesn't work out, with
Speaker 1: your ship, with your ship, we worked out what you're
Speaker 1: doing on your own terms. You never you never in
Speaker 1: the network twenty seven years. So what happens is like,
Speaker 1: what made you like that? I guess my question for
Speaker 1: you is, it's like, you know, we talked about my
Speaker 1: experience and how I transition. Channing talked a lot about it.
Speaker 1: So how did you go from rapping to this to
Speaker 1: a point where like people look at like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: drinks and all of this other stuff. But this is
Speaker 1: really like the business behind it. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't understand because eventually, I think that rappers should never
Speaker 1: signed to a record label, Rappers should never sounded to
Speaker 1: a company, Rappers should dropped their albums on their own podcasts, right,
Speaker 1: but you should only like this thing about it. Right.
Speaker 1: Let's suppose that you was playing with the Texans. What's
Speaker 1: the oilers that was back in the days, right, but
Speaker 1: they didn't you know, they don't exist no more. Let's right,
Speaker 1: Let's suppose the US oilers and you dropped the album
Speaker 1: just for the Houston oilers. You dropped the sweatsuit just
Speaker 1: for the Houston oilersts. You should be a billionaire just
Speaker 1: all for Houston. Yeah, we'll explaining to us because a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand that. And I feel like
Speaker 1: we like me. A lot of people come to y'all
Speaker 1: and listen to y'all because y'all what we learned that,
Speaker 1: whether it's through YouTube or the guests on the Shafts,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed, no learned a lot. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's really though, right, like because get him into the
Speaker 1: show before we do. I don't we don't trust think
Speaker 1: about where we come from. We don't trust. So if
Speaker 1: I know this man came from where I came from
Speaker 1: and he tried to put me on game, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna listening to him more than I'm listening to this dude.
Speaker 1: He's talking about like the stock market, etcetera, etcetera, or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like the thing is, I'm expecting him and he has
Speaker 1: a responsibility to really tell me, like what's right for me. Now,
Speaker 1: I know where you're going, but that's what we have
Speaker 1: to understand our market, and we'll understand our market. That's
Speaker 1: just our market. We can't lose. We can't lose. Actually explain, yeah,
Speaker 1: no wait, I'm no always for you to go keep going. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need you to go, and spound on that I
Speaker 1: always should look at Texas. I said, why would a
Speaker 1: Texas artists promote outside of Texas? Texas has like you
Speaker 1: can go platinum in Texas, you literally in Texas. That's
Speaker 1: exactly how I always thought about it. So what happened
Speaker 1: was when I did a podcast. Yeah, and told me
Speaker 1: to do a podcast five years prior to I wanted
Speaker 1: to do a podcast, But when I actually did it
Speaker 1: and I saw the algorithms, Yeah, made me feel like
Speaker 1: I'm smart. I'm not smart, but when I saw yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's a big part of him because he's not
Speaker 1: gonna change, he's not gonna die. His bid effect that
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it, but that integrity said,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's keep it the same, ye not
Speaker 1: never try to cater day to anything. Let's keep the
Speaker 1: same unapologized funk with us then cool, Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: don't funk with us. We don't want the money. We're
Speaker 1: going out the same way we came. We came in
Speaker 1: not expecting anything. We didn't anything. Let's just do what
Speaker 1: we have fun doing. Even what you're doing though, right,
Speaker 1: Like Brandon is unapologetic about House of Athletes because literally
Speaker 1: everything that we say, he lives it and believes it.
Speaker 1: So he could give two ships if somebody doesn't like it, right,
Speaker 1: because he literally lives this and believes that this is
Speaker 1: the key to success, to be healthy and to be
Speaker 1: well and to be great. So y'all feel the same way.
Speaker 1: So when you're you can you can literally be okay
Speaker 1: with losing money and leaving money on the table. The
Speaker 1: principal eight months, we still lose money, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we make money. Don't get me wrong, but we lose
Speaker 1: money way because they're just taking that check. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: just we're not compromising anything, but you're not talking about
Speaker 1: and hold it out. Yeah, but talk about why y'all
Speaker 1: made that move, because like, now I know why y'all
Speaker 1: made the move, because you're thinking long term and now
Speaker 1: you're not doing short term thinking. But we we doubted
Speaker 1: each other to be honest with this short term. This
Speaker 1: is a short term. This was a short term. Why there,
Speaker 1: like we're like, we're just gonna do that. He was
Speaker 1: playing poker. I was OK. I mean that's diffain type
Speaker 1: of Ye, that's that's the absolutely right here, like like
Speaker 1: we don't know the bad story. This is a super bank.
Speaker 1: It was kendle two dollars six. Jesus, you're going way
Speaker 1: back story. We're in the studio and recording NonStop, playing poker,
Speaker 1: and if you realize, poker and and recording is the
Speaker 1: same thing. So it was so easy. So I would
Speaker 1: come out recording three days in a row with drink
Speaker 1: through the whole time. Yeah, he was like, oh, who's
Speaker 1: a drink? Drink And then I have recorded a song
Speaker 1: that ship we're playing, we're playing poker. He's recording non stop,
Speaker 1: NonStop weekly. We're having fun with doing our our music
Speaker 1: ship and always recording his music. We're supporting the vibe
Speaker 1: and he's recording and we're playing poker. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the night he would finished recording music and
Speaker 1: say what you was doing smoking weed? We're trying fun
Speaker 1: and we're playing drink and we haven't dreamed were playing poker,
Speaker 1: but we would say we would drink so much, we
Speaker 1: like we drink. Champs would whoever last, whoever, whoever ended
Speaker 1: at the end of the night, saying we're still awake.
Speaker 1: X Channon. Crowds love him. I love him exactly. We
Speaker 1: didn't have college. We had crazy hood studios and then
Speaker 1: and then and then he recorded a song with Alchemists
Speaker 1: called Drink Chance, and he recorded a song and we
Speaker 1: loved it. It's just us. I'm gonna tell you something
Speaker 1: that I don't even remember. It was the original Drink
Speaker 1: Chances on a missy beat right and Actemists called me
Speaker 1: and said, please change it, and the beat that you
Speaker 1: heard down works way more perfect. Two thousand between two
Speaker 1: thousand six got drafted. That's when we that's when he
Speaker 1: stamps you guys are skipping a lot of ship and
Speaker 1: we're really gonna get into a drink behind I'm drunk.
Speaker 1: We had a show already on on x M before
Speaker 1: Sirious x M, when x M was by itself and
Speaker 1: seriously another thing. We had a show. Yeah, and this
Speaker 1: show is called Militament Crazy Raw Race when you talked
Speaker 1: about earlier, because he named the show was name, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the name that? My company? Everything company's name is
Speaker 1: crazy and this and and then raw Leo Leo g
Speaker 1: who give us the show? So we had this same
Speaker 1: We had drinks challenge, the same as act show. Who
Speaker 1: who Who's Who's Whose idea was it? They say, no,
Speaker 1: let's not go from let's not do that, Let's go
Speaker 1: to the drink champs. Just give me one very long,
Speaker 1: just give me one name. Who was it? I don't
Speaker 1: want to give myself the problem. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: you can't give the prop because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's a collective idea. That was like I
Speaker 1: grabbed it. I thought I was like your dream champ.
Speaker 1: I was amazing. I grabbed it without knowing it would
Speaker 1: be a podcast. Then my homie was like, you'll do
Speaker 1: a podcast and then we did a radio show before.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're show with Noria as a podcast,
Speaker 1: and then other people are telling him do a podcast.
Speaker 1: It was just so many things being direct to make
Speaker 1: it happy storm. And then when he was ready and
Speaker 1: he was ready, I said, your dream Champs, I got
Speaker 1: it ready yeah, and he said, let's go. But I
Speaker 1: think that you know, I'm glad that you're talking about
Speaker 1: this because I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what this drink champ sins. I just
Speaker 1: know that this is the culture. And they got all
Speaker 1: these amazing guests. Nori is freaking as phenomenal, Like he
Speaker 1: he come in here, he's smoking, he drinking, but you
Speaker 1: don't know how intentional he is and how are you
Speaker 1: pushing the car so I'm not drink stake so hearty
Speaker 1: hear the back story on it. I think it's needed,
Speaker 1: like what is this he's a younger big brother because
Speaker 1: he's younger than he and the thing is me And
Speaker 1: we looked at it as where the we've we've said
Speaker 1: this for like a joke, Eric being rock him of
Speaker 1: of a podcast like as the DJ, I'm the background,
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that's doing what I do correct and
Speaker 1: he's the MC, and that's the way we approached. How
Speaker 1: much does you guys being respected in your previous fields?
Speaker 1: Right Like, I don't think you guys would have the
Speaker 1: same success. Absolutely, people didn't respect you in the game
Speaker 1: from the yard. But that's the same thing when I'm athlete,
Speaker 1: Like you can come on, I an athlete and be
Speaker 1: like y'all some thumbs because I am athletes. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, when I watched it, I said, yes, I
Speaker 1: need to be a boss ned because you know why,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what we thought. Thing is, we don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't like a god bless God, bless everybody who
Speaker 1: was in the NFL. When I look at those four
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that you'll put together, I don't want loose from
Speaker 1: the NFL, from anybody, anybody else, from anybody else. I
Speaker 1: want to fucking go to y'all page, tell YouTube and
Speaker 1: whatever the funk you'll tell me it's happening for that week.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, that's where you can dribbing me in
Speaker 1: the wrong director, What did you make the wrong bat?
Speaker 1: You don't even care, righting, don't take that because you respected,
Speaker 1: Because I respect they had on the field if they
Speaker 1: were shot. Yeah, he was on the Patriots and we lost.
Speaker 1: That's one thing I respected about into regardless when he
Speaker 1: went to Jets Nuns. Yeah, the world wavis the road.
Speaker 1: We go to bath to real quick going, we're going
Speaker 1: right Jet they did, and he was a man. Ain't
Speaker 1: the real read? Ain't nothing wrong with the Rod revers
Speaker 1: It's my team. When's the last time he really followed
Speaker 1: the team? Mark Sanchez ran into the linebacker. But I'll
Speaker 1: be get busy. When he left fer Fitzgerald, what's the guy,
Speaker 1: the guy with the beard? Patrick got busy. He got busy.
Speaker 1: They ain't Miami got something, got a massage and fucking
Speaker 1: played his ass off I love the Jets for what
Speaker 1: they did with Sam Sam Donaldson, Sam Donald Sam donald
Speaker 1: He did he had a hepatitis, Yes, he had manoa.
Speaker 1: They reconstructed the old offense. He came back and they
Speaker 1: didn't have got Adam Gates got fired. I don't know
Speaker 1: I did go on, no, no, no, I'm hooking up
Speaker 1: right now because I'm what I say it right now? Um,
Speaker 1: and they make this the right move right now? Why
Speaker 1: did the Jets fired Adam Gates and said they parted,
Speaker 1: and the jaguarsh fired Doug Haron and said they party ways.
Speaker 1: But when an Anthony Anthony Lynne got fired from the
Speaker 1: tape from the charge, they said, they fired them. So
Speaker 1: why can't the same respect goes along with the whole
Speaker 1: overall perspective. Well, it's crazy. We had to come and
Speaker 1: that will come up in one of our episode. We
Speaker 1: actually have that conversation, right, Um, pretty much like anything else,
Speaker 1: we don't We don't control the narrative. What I mean
Speaker 1: is that the other is that the journalists hip it's
Speaker 1: unconscious bias, but it's also it's also white supremacing immediate, right,
Speaker 1: Like they honestly don't know how much intention is put
Speaker 1: behind it. But they literally can't even control They can't
Speaker 1: they can't control how they think about had lines when
Speaker 1: it comes to black people, right, And so there's no
Speaker 1: way that a black coach can just go his separate ways.
Speaker 1: He has to be fired. Right. So when you already
Speaker 1: have that assumption in your head and your subconscious, you're
Speaker 1: gonna write a certain way. Right. It's just like when
Speaker 1: when there's a crime committed, if it's a black person,
Speaker 1: you are going to know that it was a black
Speaker 1: suspect that killed somebody. They never they don't ever mention
Speaker 1: the race. You have to assume like that person is
Speaker 1: white because they haven't even said the race. We know
Speaker 1: when they say the race, they say the race, but
Speaker 1: when they don't say the race, that means that person
Speaker 1: is white and they don't want to categorize that person
Speaker 1: as a white person that did something heinous or violent
Speaker 1: or crazy. Negative negative against the NFL perspective, it's not
Speaker 1: the media and the media. The media is ESPN is
Speaker 1: not as diverse as it should be. So when you
Speaker 1: look at draft and when the black players they draft,
Speaker 1: and they talked about, oh yeah, this black player had
Speaker 1: a crack had a was a crack baby. Like that's
Speaker 1: literally what they put on the three lines they did
Speaker 1: for the player. That one line is this this baby
Speaker 1: was a crack baby. But then when you see the
Speaker 1: white players getting drafted went to Stanford actually got a
Speaker 1: double major, Like that's literally it. But it's that unconscious
Speaker 1: bias that that's Briant. That's Brant when he was drafted.
Speaker 1: We all know about DA's brain, right, you know that name,
Speaker 1: So that's Brian drafted the general manager for a team.
Speaker 1: I think is your mom Was your mom ever a prostitute? Yeah? Wow,
Speaker 1: somebody asked no real real yeah, one on one like
Speaker 1: the questions that they mean, I hadn't been in those rooms.
Speaker 1: So these two can antest to it. But I've heard
Speaker 1: that the questions that they ask. A combine can literally
Speaker 1: be watched. The NFL combine is when you go to
Speaker 1: in in Indianapolis and you literally work out and every
Speaker 1: team is they're assessing every single aspect of your ability
Speaker 1: and your personal life and your mental They do a
Speaker 1: mental assessment, really and they're literally trying to pay out.
Speaker 1: Are you a good fan? Let's paint the picture. Let's
Speaker 1: paint the picture. So from a physical step from assessment,
Speaker 1: you walk in, you got every single team sitting in
Speaker 1: front of you, lights, ontives, you walk on the stage,
Speaker 1: but you yeah, combining jokes, right, that sounds I'm going
Speaker 1: rates to the NFL. Now this is where we this
Speaker 1: is the stage and show them who I am and
Speaker 1: pros and stuff, right, and this is how they determine
Speaker 1: who they're gonna draft. They get to go through everything.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that you do is y'all
Speaker 1: the team all thirty two teams, but it's more people.
Speaker 1: It's the head coaches, is the manager, scouts, and maybe
Speaker 1: a handful of owners here and there. So I'm walking
Speaker 1: out and they said, Brandon Marshall University of Central Florida
Speaker 1: has nothing on but tights, nothing, no salt, no shirt.
Speaker 1: And I go here and whether people compared that to
Speaker 1: where you go up and you stand on the block
Speaker 1: and people literally says, how how useful are you going
Speaker 1: to be to me on the cotton field? And that's
Speaker 1: when people have compared to I don't necessarily think that
Speaker 1: it's apples to apples. Look at the end of the day, Look,
Speaker 1: we're talking about a billion a ten billion dollar industry,
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar athletes, right, We're talking this dude in Kansas
Speaker 1: City just signed almost a half of Billy right for it,
Speaker 1: you know, years just signed the deal like that's that's
Speaker 1: big time money. So you gotta understand this time, he's
Speaker 1: only three, there's only his third season. Yeah, it's the grades.
Speaker 1: Was it forty million? Right, So that's what he signed for.
Speaker 1: But you gotta think, so, you know, that process degrading.
Speaker 1: But at the same time that you gotta keep in mind,
Speaker 1: like you know, we get paid off of our body
Speaker 1: don't get paid off. This are you saying that you
Speaker 1: sign up for it? So this is the now kind
Speaker 1: of kind of but also like can the process be
Speaker 1: better when we talk about do we the players have
Speaker 1: a voice? Does the does the NFL does? Does the
Speaker 1: owner give us an opportunity to use up utilize the
Speaker 1: platform up? Correct? Doesn't have to be that, but it's
Speaker 1: bigger than that. Well, I don't think it needs to be.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, there was a guy that was running
Speaker 1: his forty and literally his whole thing came out of
Speaker 1: his shorts, right Like, I don't think that, Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the podcasts, Like, I don't know, look like
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but I think I think he speaks to
Speaker 1: does Brandon Marsha needs to be in tight spandic shorts
Speaker 1: to run a forty? Right? He doesn't? Right, But that's
Speaker 1: that's where there needs to be changes, right Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think that it needs to be in the same
Speaker 1: exact format. That's how they're doing it. It's the great
Speaker 1: because if you're coming here, look, it's just that. But
Speaker 1: also you wake up at six am, seven am, and
Speaker 1: you go through you see two hundred doctors and you're
Speaker 1: just laying on the table and they're coming up and
Speaker 1: they pull it on your toe. They pulling your They're
Speaker 1: not saying, hey, how are you doing? You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: rot your film. You know, we love what you did
Speaker 1: last year. It ain't like bro and you know everything
Speaker 1: about you. It's not that you're laying on the table
Speaker 1: and they're just moving you around to see and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's send them back and get an m R. On that.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't feel like that there was other
Speaker 1: brothers that had it worse than you. When because because
Speaker 1: you use yeah, no, no, here, here's my thing right
Speaker 1: like here and here, here's my thing. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I have a goal in mind, and it's whatever, this
Speaker 1: is the process in place, Like if I got to
Speaker 1: make the decision, am I willing to go through that
Speaker 1: to get to the goal? And that's something I was
Speaker 1: willing to go through. It didn't matter. I wanted to
Speaker 1: play in the National Football League. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: one of the best ever. I wanted to sign a
Speaker 1: certain type of contract. I had goals in my every
Speaker 1: single year, so I just blocked out the distraction. But
Speaker 1: treating the experience for other people is a goal. Well,
Speaker 1: I think for her it depends like right, and this
Speaker 1: is that This is where it gets interesting when we
Speaker 1: talk about activism at the activism for her, you know,
Speaker 1: her passion is to actually is diversity in the NFL,
Speaker 1: not just diversity and just corporate America just period, right equality.
Speaker 1: That's her. For me, it's it's own health and wellness. Right. So,
Speaker 1: and I say this to the but when I was
Speaker 1: what I went to, so I love you v a
Speaker 1: much love much love your wife. He went to your
Speaker 1: wife's best brand, went to Hampton, went to Hampton. So yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so ill love bro Bro Bro, Why you do call
Speaker 1: you like that? In New York, you understand push your T.
Speaker 1: I know you probably don't know me, right, but I'm
Speaker 1: on TV. You know I pushed the conversation for etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And I just remember living in Brooklyn. I was playing
Speaker 1: for the Giants at the time, and then your album
Speaker 1: came out and then all I could listen to was
Speaker 1: those I'm like, first of all, like he's doing an album,
Speaker 1: he dropped only seven like tracks? Whatever? Like what happened
Speaker 1: in THT you changed was changing the game. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, what like you really went in, Like Kanye,
Speaker 1: it was that Kanye. It was the whole Drake, all
Speaker 1: of that stuff, Like Bro, you really went in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they told him it was. It was a It was
Speaker 1: a classic moment in hip hop. I appreciate it. So
Speaker 1: talk to me about that, like you talked about was
Speaker 1: the classic moment in hip hop? Why was that a
Speaker 1: classic moment in hip hop? Why do you feel like that? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, it was because of the Seven Songs,
Speaker 1: Number one, the seventh. That just changing the whole trajectory
Speaker 1: and we gotta push your teeth one, you know, changing
Speaker 1: the whole trajectory of what was going on in hip
Speaker 1: hop at the time. I think everybody was putting like
Speaker 1: six records on a on a album, so it was
Speaker 1: stream war and we were just like going against the establishment,
Speaker 1: just saying, look, we're just gonna make the best we
Speaker 1: can make in seven yea yeah, none of that. And
Speaker 1: and then just you know, just being lyric driven hip hop.
Speaker 1: And that year was like you know, nominating for Graham
Speaker 1: and it was just the best album was it. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this because when I listened to the album,
Speaker 1: I felt like this could be potentially personal. Was it
Speaker 1: personal or was it business, because like y'all was, y'all
Speaker 1: didn't cross the line, but y'all you went deep bro,
Speaker 1: like where it's like if you want to go there,
Speaker 1: we can go there. Yeah. Well, it's always it's always
Speaker 1: personal saying this is wrapped so and when I do it,
Speaker 1: it's personal simply because it comes from a real place. Yeah. Respect,
Speaker 1: And that's what we just talked about. In sports, it's
Speaker 1: like the difference between we're talking about a ten billion
Speaker 1: all the industry and most of us come from places
Speaker 1: where this is our way out. So like, how can
Speaker 1: you tell me that this is business? This is personal
Speaker 1: for me because it gave me my opportunity to survive, right,
Speaker 1: legend legends, Push your teeth, Push your teeth, They'll thank you.
Speaker 1: Push you know. I love you for real? I mean
Speaker 1: your first video brand shout out on the said, Hey,
Speaker 1: can I let me ask you a real question? Though?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a real question, real real? You
Speaker 1: with me? You with me? Friend? You with me? You
Speaker 1: with me? You with me? Am I to drink chance? Yes? No,
Speaker 1: let me ask Let me take me to tell you
Speaker 1: what drink? She had three shots feeling real good? Four
Speaker 1: He ain't He's chilling. He really feeling real good. He's
Speaker 1: gone gone. You can see your eyes getting glazy. And
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't take a question. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think baby, I'm drinking, douce say, and I'm chap. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I'm being. You ain't really been drinking.
Speaker 1: Drink tonight. How you wake up tomorrow? That's always a
Speaker 1: drink chan there was more time you drink wake lately.
Speaker 1: He has to be when it's like, wait, the shot,
Speaker 1: everybody everything droning, everybody drink no more? Just watch over there, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: real gee, that's the shot. Be monsters, everybody showbody drink tonight.
Speaker 1: He tore this little. I would say, this's a camera.
Speaker 1: You got me helping wall. That's in my thing. But
Speaker 1: every once in a while you have a good time.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna sure you got to be a drink
Speaker 1: chance Fred No, a little freaking right up. Listen to
Speaker 1: the house. We can't do it, friends, we can't do anything.
Speaker 1: Wet everybody care what up? Friends? Everybody tonight and nobody
Speaker 1: didn't wake up in the morning. I'm get up every morning.
Speaker 1: I got for I got production in that out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm a FaceTime and I'm gonna show you
Speaker 1: and then I just want my corn. I feel like
Speaker 1: y'all need that. I feel like I feel like you
Speaker 1: talked about producing all that. Let me produce drink chance
Speaker 1: right now where I feel like, no, this just like
Speaker 1: O G O G. This is what we need to do.
Speaker 1: I feel like we need to built. I feel like
Speaker 1: we need something like yeah, like we can cry. You
Speaker 1: have for Rever on the show, Okay for Rell? Are
Speaker 1: you to drink at for no? Okay, he's not yeah
Speaker 1: he was yeah for yeah a lot to take off
Speaker 1: his man to the way to take over and maybe
Speaker 1: you said that damn he dropping juice. But y'all have
Speaker 1: so many people on the show, and I feel like
Speaker 1: at the end, who who's holding that? No, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I ain't a smoke chant drink smoke? What
Speaker 1: is it called smoke? I ain't a smoke chance. I'll
Speaker 1: take some drink. Let's calm it down, to drink chip,
Speaker 1: don't drink more, to drink like some good. It's not
Speaker 1: about how much you drink, it's how Because that this
Speaker 1: is this is a smart I have to take the
Speaker 1: opportunity to say or Miami, uh a legend. No no, no,
Speaker 1: no Miami favorite Sean Taylor. Are you familiar with Sean Taylor?
Speaker 1: Can we give him some love because nobody ever gives
Speaker 1: him love after he passed away? Okay, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that. I think the NFL community you closer to
Speaker 1: it than me. Like it's almost like a holiday. We
Speaker 1: talked about it every year in d C and Virginia.
Speaker 1: They definitely do thank you because we also do in Miami,
Speaker 1: but I just didn't know we do it in Virginia also, Yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 1: That's what's ups. Thank you, thank you. He's Miami legend.
Speaker 1: For Ller's Miami legend, Frank Gorgon Miami legend fowers. I
Speaker 1: would love to give him Frank his flowers, but he's
Speaker 1: not getting him gotten his blower something real quick, because
Speaker 1: you know, I did my googles. We thought Ulto singles
Speaker 1: were here, right, so then you know, and I have
Speaker 1: one question about I wait till annoys finish, That's what
Speaker 1: ask So then Ulto single says he promoted wearing fake jurory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh that's a big conversation. Yeah yeah, yeah, he said it.
Speaker 1: He said it, He said it, terrible got you got
Speaker 1: the most already Bracelest. You know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know money, So I know that's that card here,
Speaker 1: that's the nail Racelest, that's the East seventeen. And then
Speaker 1: you got the you got the god duell Ja was
Speaker 1: the first one band faith. Yeah, he got about two
Speaker 1: hundred seven thousand. He got money. In my calculation, I'm
Speaker 1: just going with the conversation. I'm just saying, like, because
Speaker 1: those are investments, and people don't realize that. See when
Speaker 1: you get the bust out, don't diamonds, don't put no diamonds.
Speaker 1: He's speaking. But what I'm saying, I want to look
Speaker 1: at that chesship, the Cardia ship. A lot of people,
Speaker 1: that's what happens is they go get those cardierir braces,
Speaker 1: the same Cardier braces, and they bust them down and
Speaker 1: they don't understand that it takes away from the value
Speaker 1: you speaking. You are speaking, so a couple of things here, yeah,
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, like oh geez, like that was the one
Speaker 1: talk really taught me away when I got into the league,
Speaker 1: seeing how they bought jewelry and how they explained it
Speaker 1: to me. And when you take this Cardier bracelet, this
Speaker 1: is something that's been around for years, or this Rolegs watch.
Speaker 1: What you're looking at when you put diamonds in it,
Speaker 1: now it it depreciates. It's a liability and not an asset. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's first and foremost. But and then you gotta
Speaker 1: understand what type of watch you're buying. Is this watch
Speaker 1: and watch that foltives value and that you can put
Speaker 1: on your estate planning or is this a watch that
Speaker 1: the decrease in value as soon as you take it
Speaker 1: out the store. So there's a lot of conversations about that.
Speaker 1: How I bought my jewelry is every time I want to,
Speaker 1: I went to a Pro Bowl All Star game for
Speaker 1: the NFL. That money that they would pay us to come,
Speaker 1: that's when I would treat myself to a watch. So
Speaker 1: my watch collection came off of every time I want
Speaker 1: to I went to a Pro Bowl, right, and then
Speaker 1: I never bought I put diamonds in my stuff because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want this to be able to like
Speaker 1: that sits up with that art, that that piece of
Speaker 1: art that I bought, And now that's a part of
Speaker 1: my portfolio that when I look at my my my
Speaker 1: my portfolio, Uh, you know, every single quarter, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at my assets. That's a part of that. And
Speaker 1: I like, how you this month? Yeah, that was see
Speaker 1: a lot of Google. A lot of people say, yo,
Speaker 1: you know when you get money when you buy certain
Speaker 1: a certain jury is flaws, but then certain watches, it's
Speaker 1: not a flaw, sir watches. The investment even a birken bag,
Speaker 1: Like I don't suggest people buy Berken bag. The Birken
Speaker 1: bag never depreciates. Hold on second second time around stories.
Speaker 1: You buy that birken bag for twelve k, you put
Speaker 1: in the second time around store, you gotta pay eighteen k.
Speaker 1: It's like almost like that that Ferrari for eight right,
Speaker 1: Like there's certain Ferraris. You know, I never I wish
Speaker 1: I bought an exotic car and I actually enjoyed myself.
Speaker 1: I never really did that, but like I understood when
Speaker 1: I was looking at the investment of an exotic car,
Speaker 1: I knew if I bought a four fifty eight Ferrari,
Speaker 1: that that car that I bought for three eight five,
Speaker 1: and I put my my time into like picking out
Speaker 1: the stitches and the leathers and all of that, I
Speaker 1: can then turn around and resell that for four fifty.
Speaker 1: But if you bought the other ferraris soon as you
Speaker 1: take that off the lot, don't the reself, I don't
Speaker 1: hold its value, right, So when we talk about buying
Speaker 1: luxury and those type of things, you gotta understand some
Speaker 1: things hold its value, some things appreciating, some things depreciate.
Speaker 1: But what the attitude? Because um, I watched some documentary man,
Speaker 1: and they're seeing how so many athletes that you know,
Speaker 1: to get their money. And for the moment I got
Speaker 1: on the phone with you, I knew you wasn't that
Speaker 1: type of athlete. But the thing is, how did you
Speaker 1: develop that? So so let's talk about the exotic cars.
Speaker 1: I was actually in Waltham, Massachusetts in Boston, and I
Speaker 1: spent three months in the outpatient program. Okay, and I
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and then the best
Speaker 1: way to describe that as an emotional disorder. Okay, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's why I got into all this wellness stuff. And
Speaker 1: while I was out there, um, I talked about New
Speaker 1: York teaching me a lesson my wife getting you know,
Speaker 1: being out at the Mark Key like nightclub and getting
Speaker 1: hit in the bottle, hit in the face with a bottle.
Speaker 1: So we had to go to a dentist. So I
Speaker 1: called the New York Giants. I was playing for the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins at the time, but I was in New York,
Speaker 1: so I called the New York Giants. I said, I
Speaker 1: need to see a doctor. Connecting to people, they helped me.
Speaker 1: But then I got connected to the doctor, the best
Speaker 1: doctor in Boston. So when I'm in Boston, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: sitting with this dentnist, white dentnist, and he picked me
Speaker 1: up in a four eight and I'm telling like, this
Speaker 1: is my dream car. And he said, let me show
Speaker 1: you how to buy it. So that's how I understood
Speaker 1: that part, because he told me, like, this is why
Speaker 1: I bought it this way, this color, this type of interior,
Speaker 1: because if I choose to sell this back in three
Speaker 1: months or six months, I make my money back times
Speaker 1: times three. Right. And that's about what he always say
Speaker 1: is exposure leads to leads to expandion. So when we
Speaker 1: talk about Nori and you guys giving us free game
Speaker 1: or Jay z or Rick Ross or did he like
Speaker 1: that's free game? Listen, you know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 1: y'all traveled the world a little, you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: are you seeing Are you seeing that a betterment for
Speaker 1: I am athlete, or are we seen a betterment for
Speaker 1: drink tims having you had a guess another drink? Ye?
Speaker 1: Hold on makes sense, right, I didn't get my foot
Speaker 1: kicked like five time? Wake up nigga. Yeah, because me
Speaker 1: and you are looking out for me. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: tapped out, but I ain't going home. I'm gonna sae man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Let's trust me. Shot shot shot shot. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna because I'm le, I'm gonna leave here with
Speaker 1: the belt on diputi b. Yeah, that's the same thing
Speaker 1: with my dude. Say that's the same thing. What you mean?
Speaker 1: Look at that just bottled tonight your help. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: saying this bottle with me and say I don't need
Speaker 1: friend Taylor drinking. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 1: so much. Listen member, everything you're doing already. I want
Speaker 1: to support it, but I wanted to tell you all
Speaker 1: give me your audio audio Yeah, yeah, we give it
Speaker 1: into your selling it too. I can't afford shid and
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna say, you know, she's smarting stopped
Speaker 1: we give it in to your selling it to sharing
Speaker 1: this can that's that's going. Yeah, that's going. I'm selling
Speaker 1: it to the way people. We don't go I preferred buyer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're interested in our ship. We would love to
Speaker 1: sell it. He's not buying because I'm a part of it,
Speaker 1: and we're not buying. We're selling it. We're gonna help you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna sell Jim, he's a great guy. You got
Speaker 1: the bad Yeah, we're about got smooth up streaming. We
Speaker 1: got smooth Chi you got drinking was a little man
Speaker 1: people feeling stuff like that. Huh. The's just saying smoke chance,
Speaker 1: we got um cha bang um young really Mike bof
Speaker 1: induced on the smoke chance, and then we got the
Speaker 1: drink chance, wildcat drink chance. Sports. Um. We're trying to
Speaker 1: get warm and Sat. We're trying to get and Paul
Speaker 1: here he ain't kind of talking a third person, but
Speaker 1: nothing to say more Sat would be dopey. So good.
Speaker 1: You keep saying trying to get Fred. You're trying to
Speaker 1: get Warren Sat. That's your people. Can we get more
Speaker 1: set together? But can't you get you can get your Sat?
Speaker 1: Do the deal? Fred freaky frid that that that, that's
Speaker 1: that's what. That's what. You gotta watch the show. I
Speaker 1: can't do it. I've never been in a room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been in the viper locker room. It's different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me get you. Let me get your story about
Speaker 1: the locker room. And then a lot of people going
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, theyre gonna say a lot
Speaker 1: of things. They're gonna say, Brandon, you went too far.
Speaker 1: And then y'all might be like, yo, you're tripping because
Speaker 1: the culture is different in sports and then the entertainment. Right,
Speaker 1: one time, I'm playing for the I'm playing for the Giants.
Speaker 1: Just went from the Jets to the Giants an eighteen,
Speaker 1: good job team, my last real cup of tea. We
Speaker 1: got O'dale Beckham Jr. I went over there, Sterling Shepherd,
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. They just came out he but he got
Speaker 1: everything else right, he did. He the man in New
Speaker 1: York when he comes from an after standpoint. They just
Speaker 1: came off the playoffs and come off the boat tour.
Speaker 1: They got trade songs on them, you know, doing all
Speaker 1: of that. They win and they lose in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: So in my mind, I'm like, we just imploded with
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Let me go to the Giants.
Speaker 1: They got the number one receiver in the league and him,
Speaker 1: I'll go on the other side, take push off of him.
Speaker 1: They got the top five defense. We're gonna win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's my mentality. So I go over there. Anyways,
Speaker 1: and uh, what was that? What was that going with this?
Speaker 1: The locker room? So I like the Giants. There you go.
Speaker 1: So I'm with the Giants and I get there, and
Speaker 1: this is my twelf year. It's my actually it's my
Speaker 1: towel year. And I go in the shower. Because you
Speaker 1: gotta understand this. We're gonna locker room. Got sixty guys
Speaker 1: in one locker room, come out of practice. You take
Speaker 1: all your clothes off, throw it in the ben, you
Speaker 1: put your whatever. You go in the shower, and the
Speaker 1: shower ain't know individual stalls. You got twenty guys in
Speaker 1: the thirty guys like school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like that, it's like prison whatever that means. Yes,
Speaker 1: So I'm in there. I'm in the shower at one time, right,
Speaker 1: And this is when I knew it was over, and
Speaker 1: I knew I was old. I'm in the shower and
Speaker 1: I'm just minding my business, like there's rules to it, right.
Speaker 1: So you're in the bank and I'm hitting this and
Speaker 1: the dude look over, he staring at me, like what
Speaker 1: are you staring at me? What's something good? And he like,
Speaker 1: you're Brandon Marshal. He said, I used to play man
Speaker 1: with you when I was in middle school. Next you
Speaker 1: next Sunday six. He's six six three other pounds. I
Speaker 1: bro like, when you had this conversation the jail broad No, no,
Speaker 1: no's happened that in Ja? What happened? Somebody recognize you
Speaker 1: in jail six six? No story that SI sorry when
Speaker 1: we talked about the locker room, because we talked, we
Speaker 1: came out for that and you're like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what happens in the locker room. That was one of
Speaker 1: the most awkward. So it's any given Sunday, Like that's realistic.
Speaker 1: Like have they has ever been a fight in the
Speaker 1: shower in the shower? There hasn't been a fight in
Speaker 1: the shower. But I saw I was playing for the
Speaker 1: Dinverer Broncos and dudes was hot. They was heated, and
Speaker 1: they on the field. They took the beef to the
Speaker 1: locker room. Now you're nine percent of time, like, all right,
Speaker 1: we go to camp, hard knocks. Everything you see on
Speaker 1: HBO offense versus defense. And you talked about this earlier.
Speaker 1: Were fighting. We don't like each other, but as soon
Speaker 1: as we get through the preseason, now we want team,
Speaker 1: and now we're talking about playing against the coachs, the
Speaker 1: giants or whatever you feel me. So the fights and
Speaker 1: practice it happens. But usually it's like, man, whatever we
Speaker 1: get in the locker room, it's done. So there's a
Speaker 1: couple of times where it carry into the locker room.
Speaker 1: So when I'm playing for the Denver Broncos, guys get
Speaker 1: into it. It was a ride receiver and there was
Speaker 1: a defense in wide receiver from Duvo. Y'all know, y'alla.
Speaker 1: So they get into it and they go in the
Speaker 1: locker room. They get in the locker when they still yeah,
Speaker 1: they're still talking. But they take it off the ham
Speaker 1: and they're talking off the shoulder, fans on pas, the
Speaker 1: hit pads, all of that, and they put on the shower,
Speaker 1: they put on they put on the tower. They still talking.
Speaker 1: That ain't nothing. We don't fight in the locker room.
Speaker 1: That's dead. On the field and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they go in the shower. They're still as they're
Speaker 1: going in together, still talking and the boys. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I've seen it too, grown men and their towers fight
Speaker 1: and then towers and I'm like, what's going on? Like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Yeah, I've seen that one time. I've
Speaker 1: seen plenty of fights in the locker round Geno. Oh
Speaker 1: yeah with the Jets. Yeah, now that wasn't a fight.
Speaker 1: That was the one hit. Yeah, what happens? It was
Speaker 1: a snuff you what happened? He was there, Yeah, quarterback stars.
Speaker 1: So we finished practice pretty pre finished. Finished he walking
Speaker 1: in okay, and then and then and then Buddy says,
Speaker 1: you ain't ship this season. The last week was kind
Speaker 1: of not good, do you know? Said something and no, no,
Speaker 1: no happen is Geno's already in the locker up. No,
Speaker 1: I'm good. You know, my mom's learning. I need to learn,
Speaker 1: ybody like it was. Yeah, So I come in and
Speaker 1: locker from Geno's locker. It's like where Fred is and
Speaker 1: I'm over here by the bar right here, And I
Speaker 1: just told you, like, that's not we can beat from
Speaker 1: the field, but when we get in the locker room.
Speaker 1: That's dead. You know what I'm saying. So like you'll
Speaker 1: beat propecials. Everything guys is going crazy and you will
Speaker 1: never look up, like you get real aggressive and you'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that ain't ain't nothing happening, right, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I knit it up. That ain't ain't nothing we know
Speaker 1: in the locker room is dead. Were family, We're good, Okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm in the locker room taking off everything. I
Speaker 1: got my head down and all that here is y
Speaker 1: ya yeada, YadA yeada. And I'm not looking up, but
Speaker 1: it's aggressive, but I know, like that's the locker room. No,
Speaker 1: we don't fight. I know what it is. At that moment.
Speaker 1: It's like it's none that, it's none of that. So
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and then all of us, sure, I
Speaker 1: still don't look up, and then a lot of a
Speaker 1: stud out here again. Let me look up. Let me
Speaker 1: check Geo slifting the lock when the back in the
Speaker 1: locker room, big old dude, like two hundred sixty pound.
Speaker 1: He's from Africa, Nigerian, right, like, oh, this is real,
Speaker 1: but this is the quarterback and you talked about it earliest.
Speaker 1: The seaton. You don't got no quarter one time. But
Speaker 1: one time I'm like all the shot. I'm like, so
Speaker 1: I run over there, and I'm like, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: just like seven eight of us trying to pull this
Speaker 1: dude two the pounds. I got three hundred pounders, I
Speaker 1: got three in the fifty pounds, trying to pull this
Speaker 1: dude off that Geno right, and then so anyways that
Speaker 1: happened Geno Smith, I grabbed my pull him in in
Speaker 1: the hallway. His jaw broke, and I probably broke his
Speaker 1: jaw for because he's bleeding out of just out of
Speaker 1: his marthage. He couldn't gonna tell you. Heeding out of
Speaker 1: his mouth, and he like he hot, he want to
Speaker 1: find like two sixty pounds. Shut up, Like, stay with me,
Speaker 1: let's fall over here, Let's talk about what's going on.
Speaker 1: What happened? Blood come out a small and he talking,
Speaker 1: he hot, and I'm grabbing his mouth, like Nick, you
Speaker 1: could stop because he sorry? Why didn't you? Like I did?
Speaker 1: So what happened? So h'im in there? And the only
Speaker 1: thing I think about is I'm a wide receiver. My destiny,
Speaker 1: my livelihood is in his hands. We got Ryan Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: who's our backup quarterback. He can't complete the foul your pass.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about my twins that I just said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get those honey catches here on the
Speaker 1: other side though, but I'm thinking about the quarter that
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about him throwing me the ball. So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is terrible. How you how you do that kind
Speaker 1: of ceo? So I run back in the locker room,
Speaker 1: and in my mind is like, Yo, he gotta see me.
Speaker 1: I ain't thinking about the corporate of Maryca, ain't thinking
Speaker 1: about NFL. I was totally blanked out. I'm running to
Speaker 1: this dude, defensive lineman two in the fifty pounds rock
Speaker 1: diesel from Nigeria now just straight natural, and I'm running
Speaker 1: to him like you gotta see me running this mouth.
Speaker 1: And I ran up to him and I looked in
Speaker 1: his eyes, his eyes bloodshot, read and I was ready
Speaker 1: to hear him, and I said, Yo, this thick is serious,
Speaker 1: said bro, what you're doing? Why you in her quarterback?
Speaker 1: And in that moment, I thought about saying, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: I was about to smash him in his face, but
Speaker 1: then I just saw his eyes like I'm gonna lose
Speaker 1: this fight right now, totally opposite the direction. So I
Speaker 1: went up to the fight him and then when I
Speaker 1: seen his eyes, he turned around with you the pivot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But then we went on to this point where you
Speaker 1: said we got hope. You know, his Patrick came in
Speaker 1: and end up leading us to you know, ten win season,
Speaker 1: and we thought we had us and then you had
Speaker 1: the Rail that season year. You like the Rail. I
Speaker 1: felt like, this is it the yet, Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: love you know my life. Tell him loser. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Can you break it down for me? She's a very
Speaker 1: gun I'm a cancer almost almost. I was almost. So
Speaker 1: we oh, this is the backstory. Yeah. See, now you're
Speaker 1: getting into a third hour. No no, I said, if
Speaker 1: we go four hours, then that's legend. The conversations that
Speaker 1: the five is the longest. Who I need I need
Speaker 1: you to tell me it is the Jets. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you to produce. If you go to the Jets
Speaker 1: with Dad, you know, and you go to the Giants
Speaker 1: with dead so so with the Jets, right, like, you
Speaker 1: gotta understand it's the biggest media market in the in
Speaker 1: the in the world, New York, right, So like that
Speaker 1: media market is serious. So the perception is is a circus,
Speaker 1: and it kind of is a circus. But when I
Speaker 1: got there, I was like, Yo, these people is good people.
Speaker 1: Woy the owner. But it was just like that was
Speaker 1: my best experience. You gotta remember I played on seven teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't come m and right. So for me, that was
Speaker 1: my best experience. And how the people, how they treated me.
Speaker 1: The Jets, so there's a difference between the Jets and Giants.
Speaker 1: The Jets is like the hood the Projects. The Giants
Speaker 1: is like you're going like so, no, let let me
Speaker 1: paint this picture. Deffinitely start over. The Jets is like
Speaker 1: you're going to public school. The Giants is like you're
Speaker 1: going to private school. And they're both playing in East.
Speaker 1: Brother Frotts right, kind of as two New York teams
Speaker 1: playing in East. Totally different vibes. He got to the Jets,
Speaker 1: we don't care about no Giants. We ain't talking about
Speaker 1: no Snoopy Trophy, no truth, no Snoopy Bowl, none of that.
Speaker 1: We're just trying to whatever. We're doing our business. I
Speaker 1: went to the Giants and everything when we're playing against
Speaker 1: the Jets, it was just like the Snoopy Bolus was
Speaker 1: this is important to us and all that like, because
Speaker 1: we're talking about none of that. We don't care about that.
Speaker 1: So it's a different vibe there. So here's what I
Speaker 1: would say moving forward. My prediction, they're gonna hire a
Speaker 1: black coach that can lead up, that can lead That
Speaker 1: was the Jets. The Jets, they have a huge diversity problem.
Speaker 1: And it's the number one. And it's the number one.
Speaker 1: They got four black people that work for the organization. Coach.
Speaker 1: Hold on, here's what's gonna happen. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: I'm saying that right now on Drake Chance. It's breaking
Speaker 1: news the sports for I know your culture is no
Speaker 1: other stuff hip hop, but in sports and football breaking news.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a black head coach. I think that
Speaker 1: all right. And then also it's the number one job.
Speaker 1: Why is it the number one job? You got two
Speaker 1: first round picks, you got draft capital, you got you
Speaker 1: got one to second round pick, and you got to
Speaker 1: third round picks for four years, and you also got
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars in cap space, which means you can
Speaker 1: go go out there and and and sign the top
Speaker 1: three eight. That's number two. And also you have to
Speaker 1: the number two overall pick. So you're gonna go get
Speaker 1: that black quarterback justin fields. So the Jets, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the Jets and anything like, y'all thinking Trevor
Speaker 1: is going first, Jesson's going to Jackson. Black's gonna getting
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Yeah, going second. Yeah, manage there. I love
Speaker 1: it is black excellent. We we live in and breathe it.
Speaker 1: But why not? Why not? It's nine pm and that
Speaker 1: one I'm drinking V on the show. We're gonna go,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go. I don't fit something to it. I'm
Speaker 1: getting there. No, no, no, no, no no no no,
Speaker 1: no feeling standing about four. I think as soon as
Speaker 1: we pulled up and we jumped up the van, the
Speaker 1: clocks are yeah, but I'm talking about the clock started
Speaker 1: at four p m. We pulled about four one. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay a couple of two minutes and Gus
Speaker 1: WoT put us number one over Buster runs right. So
Speaker 1: I said five five, You said five You said five hours?
Speaker 1: What what you mean? No, he didn't side bust. Hey,
Speaker 1: Oh that's a whole another, that's a whole another conversation.
Speaker 1: Though I know we gotta go, but I'll take me
Speaker 1: to you know, my minutes, because we competitive as a
Speaker 1: as athletes. Right, So Buster went five hours on the dot.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go five minutes and five hours and five minutes.
Speaker 1: So that put us number one on drink Champs. Okay, right,
Speaker 1: so I told we're gonna hold that, and I'm also
Speaker 1: gonna hold the crown for because I drink y'all under
Speaker 1: the table. Alight. But but but Buster, but bust you
Speaker 1: put me on his new album? Yes, look, how old
Speaker 1: is the hardest song out right? Now? Right? How old is?
Speaker 1: How old is? He don't matter? But that that's my
Speaker 1: point is that you don't see you only see it
Speaker 1: like two or three guys that's able to still produce
Speaker 1: at that level in the rap game. And you listened
Speaker 1: to his album and he didn't go with the pushing
Speaker 1: t route where it was seven songs. He went with
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen eighteen or something like that. And then and
Speaker 1: it was tough because there's a lot of there was
Speaker 1: a lot there's a lot of aging rappers and they
Speaker 1: put out stuff and it's like that is trash, No, no, no.
Speaker 1: I think Buster's album is phenomenal. Thinking classic. You know,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying my mind, because give me,
Speaker 1: give me, give me all right, let's say this, give
Speaker 1: me the top five rappers right now plus forty. That's hot.
Speaker 1: That's my point. That's why I'm bringing it. Give me
Speaker 1: five rappers, even Jesus, even Jesus, right, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: but but he doesn't get the credit though, But he will,
Speaker 1: he will, I don't think. Remember that's my point here.
Speaker 1: To stay with me though, But even thinking about Jesus
Speaker 1: new album like four, it don't match. But if you
Speaker 1: listen to the last two albums before we he just
Speaker 1: put out, it's like, okay, but that last album Jez
Speaker 1: put out, it was like yo, that right? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yes, but nitcy is he? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: put him at JO I'm talking about put out the album.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, No, he put out the album. Let's say
Speaker 1: he put out twelve joints. Can I ride to a
Speaker 1: leven on the fun? Yes? Yes, that's what. Yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: tell me bus be Marshal here, give us some where
Speaker 1: you at. I'm dealing with some personal ship, ye right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're talking about yeah, yeah, we're talking about your album,
Speaker 1: and I'm what I'm saying as an athlete, what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is yo, when he went happy. So so here
Speaker 1: here o g Here's what I'm saying. Like the album
Speaker 1: you just put out, right, I'm like, that's legendary. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because huh, thank you King. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that greatly, brother, Yeah, because like how many how
Speaker 1: many aging rappers do we see age gracefully and still
Speaker 1: put out you know, let's say fifteen, sixteen, seventeen joints
Speaker 1: and you can ride to all of them. And so
Speaker 1: when I listened to your album, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I'm talking, we talked, we're talking about a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff right now, and I'm just I brought it up.
Speaker 1: Nori ain't bring it up. I brought it up. Like no,
Speaker 1: I brought it up. You put me on bus, You
Speaker 1: put me on bus, You put me on bus saying
Speaker 1: you gotta listen to his new album. But that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, you forty six years old and you
Speaker 1: put out something like that, and it's like, Yo, that
Speaker 1: is insane. That's legendary. So I just want to give
Speaker 1: your flowers. Oh man, thank you King. I mean, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you saying I'm forty six though listening it's an
Speaker 1: honor and it's a privilege to still, you know, be
Speaker 1: in a space for you to do what you love
Speaker 1: and be cashion it about it and and they get
Speaker 1: received on such a profound level. So I'm personally grateful
Speaker 1: and home about what your your mother and with your
Speaker 1: words and your sentiment my brother and man just on
Speaker 1: a general consensus level, man, I'm just grateful that the
Speaker 1: world is appreciate you know what, what I still feel
Speaker 1: it is done to help us the culture forward as
Speaker 1: I continue to try to contribute and in a great way,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And look, I know
Speaker 1: you're dealing with some personal stuff right now. We called
Speaker 1: you just right boom like that. I just want to
Speaker 1: ask one last question. So to me, what you just
Speaker 1: did was legendary. Okay, I wasn't expecting that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you, okay, but like where did you
Speaker 1: go to Like how did you get to that place
Speaker 1: where it was like, yo, you put that out? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, what happened? Was there something more?
Speaker 1: Was it? Like? Yo, I'm this is who I am.
Speaker 1: This is what I do, and I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: and and do what I do. Or was it something
Speaker 1: that happened, I mean, it's it's it's always a collective
Speaker 1: of things that happened in your life or just a
Speaker 1: natural progression and evolution. This is who I am in
Speaker 1: common time and space, and I just shared who I
Speaker 1: am now, saying like, I'm not trying to redo nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing from back in the days. I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: reado nothing based on people's you know, preferences or opinions.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing what feels good to me anything. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm just grateful that it feels good to everybody, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's rare that you get to
Speaker 1: do the ship, that you get this right when in
Speaker 1: the same sense, it always has to be right to
Speaker 1: you first before you give it to anybody. But a
Speaker 1: lot of the times was right to you, especially after
Speaker 1: you know, this year's thirty years of my profession, thirty years,
Speaker 1: thirty years in the game. I'm really so, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I feel extremely fortunate to be able to do something
Speaker 1: thirty years later that feels right to me. That this
Speaker 1: recede in such a significant way on a global level,
Speaker 1: but I didn't really there wasn't like one significant thing
Speaker 1: that I was Yeah, I was wishing to collective of things.
Speaker 1: So just you try to make the moments that matter
Speaker 1: to you throughout the different things that you go through
Speaker 1: and have gone through. Okay, uh yeah, and I respect that.
Speaker 1: And you think you put this together and you should.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And I respect that,
Speaker 1: And I said, I know, I said that was the
Speaker 1: last question, but this is the last question that we
Speaker 1: go platinum yet Oh no, no, no, no, We're still
Speaker 1: on the journey. I mean, okay, okay, okay, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: because I like the drink Tims. We're gonna get you
Speaker 1: platinum everybody right now, for real, like for real, like no,
Speaker 1: for real, for real, for real. I'm telling you because
Speaker 1: like there's millions of people gonna watch this show, and
Speaker 1: they watch your show all the time, and it's because
Speaker 1: it's like, oh bus forty eight years old. They don't
Speaker 1: they're not expecting it. They need to go download on
Speaker 1: all platforms and get this man platinum. Not don't forget platinum.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the numbers, but you're really gonna
Speaker 1: enjoy the joint like everything, and it's a it's an
Speaker 1: album that you can ride out to. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So ay o, g thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We connect soon. Man. You
Speaker 1: know you're the big home get you on the podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're the big Maybe appreciate you your love love not
Speaker 1: for real? Yeah, I'm a good but not for real?
Speaker 1: Normady do that like you gotta tell them people like
Speaker 1: how that's love? Because you told I'm gonna say this, Bro,
Speaker 1: I've been over it bits taking a nappy marriage, time
Speaker 1: shot whatever else? Shot never shot shot shot, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: time nine, what's the time ninety? I'm gonna say this
Speaker 1: more time. I'm gonna say this, lord, nor Bro, you
Speaker 1: don't have a friend over the years, though, yes, you
Speaker 1: had to keep your face clean. I ain't never seen
Speaker 1: the nigger that call other nigga is the answer on
Speaker 1: the first call you called the night Yeah that that ship, Hey,
Speaker 1: that isn't you know the phone of his friend? That's
Speaker 1: that's he caught push your team. They caught pussy tea Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Jim Jones bust who yalla, y'all so crazy? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: he was just what he don't. He was. He was
Speaker 1: just like, we got millions of albums. They don't matter.
Speaker 1: That ship don't matter. They don't even don't matter. Expectations.
Speaker 1: Y'all have money. Yeah, we already what do you reckon?
Speaker 1: He don't need to call no by he already won.
Speaker 1: He showed us alight. Yeah, you got it. Heye shot
Speaker 1: shot shot Yo. That's fantastic. Thanks for let me be
Speaker 1: what that means. I mean, let's take a picture, let's go.
Speaker 1: That's very true. Yeah, I definitely mean this man. Thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us for another episode of Drink Chains hosted
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