WEBVTT - Episode 244 w/ I Am Athlete Podcast 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.480 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:17.480 and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas motherfucking podcast 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:22.000 makes He's a legendary Queen's rapper, He's Segreen. Is your 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.599 boy in the R. He's a Miami hippopper. Up is 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.200 d J e f N. Together they drink it up 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.680 with some of the biggest players in the most professional 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:36.519 unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk fast drinks. Mother. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.160 Every day is New Year's e. Just time for Drink Champs. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:50.920 Drink up Mother? Would it good? Be? Hopefully the super 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.680 This is your boy in R? What up is d 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.920 J e f And this is Drink Champs. You have 0:00:55.040 --> 0:01:01.600 to make up? And these brothers that we have standing 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.600 in front of us, is I would like to say 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.680 the blueprint that me and e f N wanted to 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.680 uh live out, meaning we wanted our culture to speak 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.280 for our culture and people that played the game, people 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.680 that was in the locker rooms, people that was you know, 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.440 this is a real DJ, Like people don't know that 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:22.479 he's a vn neal DJ, you know what I mean, 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.000 Like a lot of people don't know that, and we 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.200 wanted so when I look at these these four brothers, 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.440 even though three of them showed up and I looked 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.200 and when I look at the at the chemistry and 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.960 you know, the different worlds these brothers come from. They 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.520 sit down and I got to see the Rick Ross clips. 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.160 I got to see, uh, and I've seen them social distance. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:54.440 I see them with they got people making a food man. Yeah, 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.480 I don't know the one athletes show us in the 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:03.280 field off top off top. What made you four brothers 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.400 say you know what? Because you could have actually did 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.040 a show by yourself. You could have did a show 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.640 by yourself. You could have did the show and you know, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.120 he could have did the show by yourself. But what 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.240 made y'all say you know what? Because that is like 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.079 humbling you know what I'm saying? Um that that your brothers. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.360 What made y'all say that you're gonna do that together? Yeah? 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.720 So you call it what quarantine dreams and I'll pitch 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.600 you to the quick. But uh, we all live in 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.680 the same neighborhood. And when when you know, back in 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.240 March and everything was locked down, I mean we walking 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.160 around each other in the neighborhood. He might be on 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.560 his bike or riding by. What's up and I'm looking 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:45.280 at this situation like man, like I got legends in 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.520 my neighborhood and this is just a couple of us. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.120 We're talking about everybody living in our neighborhood, and like, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.520 this is an opportunity for us to start a podcast, 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.960 started show and see what we can do. So it 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.040 really was what France say, quarantine dreams or it's like 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.839 we're sitting here, we ain't doing that, and we all 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.960 saying neighborhood. If we are biden by CDC guy lines 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.400 we quarantine, let's see, let's give it a shot. Ye 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.880 Be pulled up to the crib one night. It was 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.400 it was all social distancing. You even did an episode 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:15.560 where you'all was like, yea, that was at the beginning. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.480 They are always gonna paint a picture at you if 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.119 you're sucking up. So he was trying to get that right. 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.639 But Be pulled up to the crib on his golf cart. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.280 You still got that cart brout there. This neighborhood sounds rich. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.000 He's like, yo, bro, what do you think about the podcast? 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.360 I'm like, if you don't them down, what's up? Whatever? 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.200 He saying, who do you think we should use? I said, 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.520 ship Reggie right here, Reggie Wayne right across the street 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.560 from He was like, he said, I'm gonna bringing in 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.760 Channing and let's do it. Let's meet in a week 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.440 or two. Let me button it up real quick. Next thing, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.760 you know, we had the facility, House of Athletes, the 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.920 old building, and then and ship we just started taping 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.360 and the rest is history because because because you know 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.920 what it is. Um, I remember me growing up right 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.680 and me actually thinking g rap Big Daddy, Kane and 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.120 Rock Kim all hangs out again, right, and then it's 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.000 the same thing with sports, like you would kick, like 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:20.679 you know, when you guys are on the same team, 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.640 most of the guys get along with each other. But 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.599 then when you dig deep, well it's like everyone is human. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.200 So so, um, is that something that you guys for 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.920 friends prior to this or like it's dudes like you 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.440 just like you said, all rappers don't really vibe. So 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.000 do we jump around teams seeing the team and you're 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:40.720 getting on a team with you know, sixty dude with 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.200 a practice and all that ship and all the nig 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.040 don't vibe. Like you know, I'm saying, people don't. People 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.120 just don't get alone. I'm sorry, is that just shot 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.360 to kill it though? Because that looks like a regular dream. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:05:05.599 I gonna lie right now. I'm gonna because I hold 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.800 I got to sleep, I got to sleep. I gotta 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.680 let you do. I gotta let you finish. But hold on, 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.760 let me just say, let me just say something. So 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.280 you said you're simple to kill a bird like that 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.880 and you trace it with the bear. Yeah, that's good. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.880 That's a good man. That's a good minute. You know 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:32.200 how to drink, man, let's drinking over there smoking. But damn, 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:38.520 I gotta let um because your shott do shots when 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.000 you even forever, you do shots if you're drinking to 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.960 kill you. Okay, cool, we're gonna look Michael Jordan live. 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:47.840 You know we got the other black on to killer, 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.160 got the pup daddy killer? Ever you guys quick, what 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:53.839 happened to the bell and ship man? The bell is 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.480 supposed to have coming for you? Okay, I'm sorry. I 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.400 was gonna say, like, dude, ready on five like that 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.640 people thinking team like it's a high school team. Many 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.760 ain't like that, bro, People go their separate ways. Dude, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:08.560 be forty on the forty year old. Y'all all got 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.719 the same ship like running the streets and one dude 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.440 got seven kids. So as soon as B Marsh came 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.360 on the team, me and B Marsh bonded back from 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.680 Miami two thousand and eleven. Yeah, as soon as I 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.000 because Fred before me at Florida. But you always got 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:23.280 that gate of love with both of the U L 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.760 soon as me and Fred first time we saw each 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.359 other went up and game that gate of love, and 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:34.360 I just that was dude, grass up on you got 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.720 me one time you come out in the preseason because 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.080 you told me I shouldn't be hitting that hard in 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:48.400 the preseason. Your back. But that long story short o 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.000 O g no o g real no real. So as 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.720 soon as you walk in that locker room when you 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.600 come from another team, you walk in and look how 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.520 to do move? You know that's to do that fool 0:06:58.560 --> 0:06:59.920 with you know, that's a great that's a great. You 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.479 just gave me a great question because you know, being 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.800 an athlete is different meeting like like I could get 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.880 dropped from a record label or I could they could 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.040 let me go, but then I might have a choice 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.600 of where to go. Like with y'all, y'all thing, like 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.880 you could just wake up and being Minnesota tomorrow or 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.640 and then what happens if Okay, let me ask me 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.840 to me ask a better question, because I got you 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.720 ever had a beat for the team and then wind 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:32.160 up being on that guy is Brandy to answer this question? 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:39.400 Because that motherucker's on four h nineties seventeen the Jets. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:49.760 The Jett happen. I was mad. Yeah, well, so you know, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.640 you're right. There's a lot of guys like man I 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.160 found out, you know, I was traded on Twitter or Instagram. 0:07:55.200 --> 0:08:00.080 That happened every single day for me. People knew that, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.720 you know, they had to check with me first, because 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.760 like I was just a little different, like I wish 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.640 back then, you know, I understood the magnitude who do 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.880 you mean exactly? Owners, general managers, because for me, football 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.080 was personal where I came for. I come from Pittsburgh 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.320 and it's the poorest county in Pennsylvania, so that was 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.000 my way out. So I never understood the business side 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.160 of it. It was like if something happened on the 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.360 football field, in the locker room, it was like war, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.440 Like you're taking food off my my you know what 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.240 I mean, from my table. So I didn't handle things 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.920 in the professional matter or a diplomatic way, so teams knew. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.560 So there would be teams I want to call and 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.360 trade for me, and I would tell them, like even 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.200 even the team was trying to trade me, I would 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.720 tell him like, here's the three teams I'm going to. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.120 Cleveland Browns, for example, called and they wanted to offer 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.959 me five million dollars pass what market was, and I said, 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.160 I will retire before I come play for the Cleveland Browns, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:09:00.240 you know what I mean? So like no, So it's 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.600 both into the spectrum where you got guys who find 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.120 out that they was traded and they're going to another 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.559 team on Instagram and Twitter, and then you got some 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.839 guys who dictate. Right. So when I went to the Jets, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.880 that was intentional. I wanted to go to the Jet 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.920 that mixed much for you know, it was my life 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.560 belong Jet fan. You know. I remember your point. The 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.559 other day, I spoke to one of my father's friends 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.400 and I was like, yo, man, my father made me 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.880 a Jet fan. Like he was like, your father was 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:36.240 never a Jet fan. That was the cheaper jersey. I 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.920 kind of think about my father's jee game. He just 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.120 like Giants right there, Jianets hold team so he just 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.560 went with the Jeticehi his chief gonna speak to him 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.040 when he go to hell when you sing the Jets, 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:47.840 because when you said Jets, like oh yeah, you know, 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.160 you gave us whole I was like, you know, I 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.240 was asking it from New York, like why you choose 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.880 the Jets, why you choose the Giant? So that's it was. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.800 It was. It was actually something subconscious. My father was 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.319 giving me Jet jersey, so I just wanted my and 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:06.839 to the other day that look, let me ask was 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:11.320 there Davis? Was there? Yeah, Well, let me ask you 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.080 about some current like the current events. You're keeping up 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.679 with the Jets now? No, because we've been doing Harbor 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.719 so long. I just don't expect us to do Are 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.720 we doing good as you're like? I wanted to still Hell, No, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.080 because I wanted to get to, you know, ask you 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.120 about you know, they're supposed to get the number one 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:32.200 overall pick, but they want they went to the two games, correct, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.839 So as a Jets fans and the players, we want 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.280 to win every single game. But then the Jets fans 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.480 they're looking at it like, lose every single game so 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.840 we can get Trevor Lawrence and that number one overall 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:47.360 and you can back with the jets and adults. Right, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.920 I'm real quickly. I just want to get back your question. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:56.160 What you asked Be the rap that your industry, our industry, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.800 the presents and our industry. When when you're cutting up 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.880 like what Be says like he was cutting up bad 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:08.839 for a minute, do you mean getting traded? Teams don't 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.040 want to deal with that ship. They called you a virus. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.000 A lot of labels they want that heat, you know 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.600 what I'm saying. They want these guys that's gonna bring 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:23.400 that attention, that's gonna sell. But it's different. Oh that's 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:32.480 a good point. It's real different. You have a podcast, yo, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.800 that's deep interesting. But it's interesting what you just said, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.840 because like I could never understand that when I was 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.000 in the league, where it was like the things that 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:47.280 we do as athletes they cut us for. And then rappers, entertainers. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:52.480 You smoke weed, right, you drink, you get shot. Anything 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:56.359 that don't matter the situation, any drama, anything that controversy, 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.000 you get deals. So the same thing that like it 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.560 was one time I saw dude, there was two there 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.840 was one guy in the league he got cut for 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.840 particular for this particular situation, all right, and that's all. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.559 The rapper go through the same thing, and he had 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.560 a Wrigley's commercial. I was like, how was that possible? 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.559 Because they're dealing with different demographics. Bro rappers rappers every Sunday. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.800 They got white kids watching, y'all white kids watching, But 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.320 I would getting to watch thet y'all held to a 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.320 different stand I want this conversation by the white white 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:32.280 kids five year old white yea, your white man ain't 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.440 listening to y'all goddamn music. I don't think he is. Demographics. 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.640 To answer your question, that demographic change. Every every industry 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.720 has to worry about the demographic that they're trying to appeal. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.560 But it could be deeper than that, because in music, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.800 if something happens to the artist, the music keeps selling them. 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:52.200 Something happens. But let me say, I've been all over 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:58.160 the world, and American television is not universal. Football is 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:00.920 like everyone like I be in duty to go off 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.360 Germany and they'll be watching football, like you know what 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.640 I'm saying. And so I think I think although y'all 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.040 have the you have the point, but I think you 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.080 helped to a better higher standards because one. We have 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.880 a printed advisor we stick up on our thing, and 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.719 there's no prontive advisor brands though, But like, how can 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.920 you be a brand spending money the same brands and 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.400 spending money on an athlete and an entertainer. Athlete goes 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.319 through something, you drop that athlete. Entertainer goes through that 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.640 goes through something, you give them the bad you know 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.520 what I'm say. I just don't understand because he used 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.560 to get arrested every week and they made him iron man. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:46.440 Let's make some noise around the same breath. We dominate 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:50.840 both industries. You know, the majority is players in the NFL, 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:56.520 majority or African American? How many in hip hop and rab? 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.280 You know, you guys, y'all know what it is. Majority 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.760 of the rap push the guys that are making the 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.000 money for the big labels. You know what I'm saying 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:09.320 that African American? When are we gonna understand that we 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.120 control these spaces, you know what I'm saying, So we 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.559 can come back to the table and get together and 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.120 figure that ship out so we can monetize and be 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.920 in a position where we're bringing other guys in so 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.760 they can eat. You know, I mean, now it's different 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.960 than the especially in your space back in the day. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.240 It's different where these guys out here everybody talking about 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.800 owning their masters and all this ship, and they can 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.160 bring other guys in and eat and teach them the ropes. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.880 It's tougher in football. But you guys, y'all, you know 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.400 y'all the ogs. You gotta tell these guys, this is 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.000 how you're supposed to do it, Like we try to 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.520 tell the guys on our show, this is how you're 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.000 supposed to do it, and conduct yourself so you can 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.640 maximize your time because our window is like this. The 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.240 average lifespanning the NFL is three and a half years 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:01.000 before but you got motherfucker's like greater to play twenty years. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.600 Then you got guys that's playing one to three years. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.320 It come back down to probably about three and a half, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.440 so it's still small. Yeah, we we got in thirteen. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:16.840 Channing got in like six, but he was doing some 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:21.200 other ship because he was drinking beer all days. Don't 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:25.400 want to get massage. It was in the hotel lobby. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.520 You fly, you fly to another city. You ain't never 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.840 been to to play a game San Diego. Charge you're 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.080 gonna play them. Ain't no way I'm staying in the house. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:37.880 I ain't never seen the girls that same day ago, 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:46.800 I gotta get out of you. You're golf used to be, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.480 you know, you used to be. So this is why 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.480 I had it. I struggled in Miami. I was there 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.440 for two years, and this is what I knew. It 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:59.200 was over as soon as I came down here. Every Friday. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.480 This boy had the whole defense and what was the place? 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:14.320 And cococo every one time to time. One time I 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.720 had a good time, but I walked away. I said, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.640 we will never win the chicken. You say something too 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:26.480 much sports, But in Denver it is a different dynamic, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.600 right as far as northern right, So you you can 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.360 you played seven years or you played a couple of 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.920 years in Denver then you came in. Miamis a totally different. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:41.520 But my mentality was always you know, like so with Fred, Yeah, yeah, 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.080 I was a knucklehead, and really it was I didn't 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.920 understand the business, right, so everything was personal. I didn't 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.320 understand the magnitude of it, and so you know, yeah, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.800 I had to learn the hard way. But one thing 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.640 I always did was I handled my business. So even 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.920 when I came to Miami. I probably can count on 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.920 one hand how many times I want to live still 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.280 to this day. Like I wasn't in Lift because I 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.320 knew I wasn't trying to pay the price, you know, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.840 the next morning, waking up at six am, seven am 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.000 and being home over now, like I wanted the bag 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.840 and that was my focus. Really, man, your question to 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.560 win with being independent? How you were just talking about 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.560 Rapids being independent. How do you feel about the rock 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.360 stepping out and doing the SFL because he'd be able 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.080 to recruit a whole bunch of players to do that 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:28.040 independent league. I don't think it's gonna work. I think 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:37.400 I think you're waiting this what you said, I'm looking 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.680 at it. I didn't stand answer. I don't like that 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.560 gonna work. It's since if you could play in the NFL, 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.240 you can play the NFL. He only bought it for 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.240 like two million, right, Yeah, but I don't really know 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.199 my face but talking about that, but you used to 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:53.919 say in the NFL, like you said you can be 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:59.320 in that. Negga said the word I don't know, losing 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:06.280 door Germany and want and yeah, that's where Kobe Bryant 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.960 get the Reginda con shots are going, yeah, you got 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.280 you see, you're gonna be like because I had an 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:27.280 appointment at Cocody, this big girl, and you think it's 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:31.199 gonna work that there's when you when you look at 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.280 tears and stuff, that's tears of athletes and that's what. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:34.680 So if you if you're going to another play in 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.560 the NFL, you're gonna play NFL. So it's gonna be 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.600 twenty two guys on the field that are the best 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.800 in the world. If he calls you, what's that his 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:46.400 league is playing like the back that's to the point. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:51.960 It's the next level perfect. So but you were you're 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:53.960 watching the best in the world. And you know, if 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.159 if anybody in the XFL can play in the NFL, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.160 they want to go get that money. So it's gonna 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.880 be the second tier of players when the first effects 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.760 XFL the quality of play, it wasn't NFL. And we've 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.200 been so stuck in the NFL that you can't get 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.520 the NFL in any other league. I think that I 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.480 think that big, thick, motherfucking some mooning wasted all. He's 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:19.560 goddamn money. But that's his only play right there though, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.320 That's why they don't start in the last season. They 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.480 don't look at the NFL. You know that's a one 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.800 then Canadian league right under the NFL. That's what they're 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.399 going to look at. That's that's that's B squad and 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.960 you got XFL. That's like C and D. But these 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.800 guys looking for an opportunity to try to work out. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:42.960 They just want to get filmed, so they just try 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.879 to get the Canada or get back. Couldn't be positive. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:55.959 It's the development, it's a development. The Rock he whatever 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.800 he put in it, there's a he has a potential 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.000 to get that money back because she's doing business. You know, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.800 rock a couple hundred millions. He ain't doing that god off. 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.120 So he can take that fifteen ten million dollars play 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:14.480 if it hit. But the sponsorships, sponsorships, his relationships, he 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.680 could try to get that back. So he got some time. Man, 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.639 I don't think it's no it's gonna fail, Fred, but 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:31.639 I'm gonna see how go freak to that point. Everybody 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.080 y'all like basketball like BASKETBALLA all of them watching basketball? 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.639 How many league basketball games? If y'all watching the last 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.399 I'll say five years league? The little more funers are 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:47.120 playing the something in the legym. How many I wanted 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.879 to right not leave. But some of the league that's 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:57.560 like the league, like Fred said, there's NFL, there's Canadian 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.320 and then there's xfil So the NFL is gonna be 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:06.199 under the NFL leader. You ain't for your opportunity, like 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.920 Buddy went to the Lakers, Uh Andre Ingram, they brought 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.320 him up and the ship up. But that's the between 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:18.439 the NFL where you got a lot of guys like 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.760 you're dealing with men in the NFL, you know what 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.840 I mean, Like it's serious business there. So you've got 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.200 a lot of college kids that can ball, but they 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.679 need time to develop. So when you leave college, if 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:31.600 you don't make it to the NFL, where do you go. 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.760 So the XFL is important because it's a develop mental 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.440 league in the in the NFL actually wants that they 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.600 want the XFL. They know they can't compete, they know 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.399 they didn't can't compete with them, but they need the 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.520 Rock to be successful and also understand his place because 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:50.920 that's a place where the guys is just not ready. 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.160 They can go play a couple of years, get some films, 0:21:53.600 --> 0:22:00.560 get to the next level. Speaking of the lot of light. 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.520 Somebody's want to watch that ship. Speaking of the rock 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:13.040 this this this show on on HBO Ballers. It's really 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:17.280 based on athletes and football players. How real is that? Non? 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:23.639 Tell me, I don't know what you're go first, No, No, 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.320 the show got canceled them, but yeah, I got cancer 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:28.840 after the last season. Was about to come back a 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:36.520 couple of months ago, about four or five one. It's official. 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.919 I think they probably started getting a little too close 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.360 to what the real ship is and the big boy. Look, 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.639 NFL is a multi multi billion dollar business, so if 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.840 you get too close to what they're doing, they're the mob. 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:53.240 They're not sucking around. So if anything, that's probably what happened. 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:56.240 But and that's the country what you means. So you 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.720 said in the NFL probably went to HBO. We can't 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.399 heard that. Probably so that's when hard Knock came. A 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.280 lot of that is true, bro, Like that shootout ship, 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.000 Like a lot of all they're doing is taking stories. 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:14.680 It's glorified, it's magnified, but it's true. And and the 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.680 possibilities there. Look, the NFL, you've seen everything you see 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.920 niggas do. Ship that you're like this nigga played ball 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.760 Why are you doing this? This nigga got his wife 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:28.760 at good point or he got you know, he anything 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:33.159 might be going on. It's true, it's bad, and they 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.119 just read enacting stuff that they've seen on the NFL. 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.359 So a lot of it is true, but that but 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.880 there's such a small window like it's true, but it's 0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:50.960 just true. But it's fifty three seventeen in NFL team 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:58.200 the sixteen hundred active you right here, So what is 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.359 the seventeen sixteen seventeen hunting the film bro that shows 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:05.400 about a hundred dudes. And that's that's why I get upset. 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.159 I can't watch I can't watch Ballers. It ain't a 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:12.280 big picture. So if you take if you take anybody's industry, rappers, 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:14.560 DJs and all that, and you want to make a 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.840 show about eight percent of them, I can't funk with 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.399 you because it's ninety two dudes trying to do the 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.639 right it's not representative. I think Ballers was eight percent 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:28.840 of the NFL pass and it's since nineteen seventy when 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.200 NFL and af L merged that they're not showing And 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.200 that's what I'm saying. They show the Ballers shows, the 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.920 worst ship about the NFL, because that's what motherfucker's want 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:39.960 to see and that's how they can monetize it and 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.879 make money. That's what ballers. But that goes back to 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:47.680 what I said a second ago about your industry, your wrap. 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.720 You know what I'm saying, like these exactly these labels. 0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.000 They want to sell that ship because they know it's 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.560 gonna sell. They're not finished sell. They put your records 0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.280 talking about one to three A b c s selling 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:04.359 that ship. They want to sell your hardest ships. They 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:05.800 want to sell it because they know you want to 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.600 run with it. Niggers that can relate to you, how 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.720 about you? They know what they're going to Ballers. I 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.440 think it was with Channon said, I mean he I 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.080 mean that was they got to working out in the 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:17.720 beginning of the ship right. No, no, I'm not on, 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.280 but you know I felt some type of I felt 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.159 like the rock because he literally sharing the backyard. I 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.000 felt like her. But I felt like he should have 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.040 invited me on the show. I never got the invite, 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.600 and he was a higher help. I didn't think he 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:31.879 was executive. You know, he the real deal. That was 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:48.840 his show about any given something that that's one of 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.760 my favorite football shows. The programs, and then there's any 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:56.399 given selling that's the best. The program, The Program, The Program, 0:25:56.720 --> 0:26:01.120 James and the Program. The pro Ram is the most 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:04.440 accurate off the field football film I've ever watched in 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:10.960 my collegiate collegiate but it's called The Program. It's everything 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.159 you got you dudes on steroids. Young dude trying to 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.200 make it, young dude girl trying to funk up his 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:21.080 career is everything. Yeah, Dad at home telling me you 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:25.080 you have to do it for the family. The Program 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.760 is the most aggrate football family. Just like game, but 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.320 it's football. You know what I'm saying, y'all forgetting about 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:35.240 remember the Italians. The ship we're going through now Sunday, right, 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.480 and get something this white versus black you know what 0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.520 I'm saying. And that's strong where football is kind of 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.520 and then the bridge, you know what I'm saying between 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.240 the white players and the black players, because at the 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.440 end of the day of sports is nothing else. It's 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.159 the one X factor that they're gonna bring, you know, 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.760 Whites with you know, their their beliefs and Blacks with 0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.000 their beliefs. It's gonna bring them together. And when you're 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.240 in the locker room that that racism and that bullshit. 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:06.399 I haven't don't really something about it. So remember, the 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.760 Titans is definitely in the top three, and I wouldn't 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.680 say it don't exist. It's like you're saying, like, yeah, 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.720 you're right, because because they didn't do like, you know, 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.159 dude got some guess they got some points. Now in 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.520 the quarterback you're working with in the Chicago you know 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:35.840 what his name? How is that Chicago? Like? How was that? Like? 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:42.240 So uh, because you Pittsburgh's cold. Pittsburgh to Chicago was good. 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.800 I didn't care about the weather. I don't really care 0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.399 about that. But like you know, Jay and I we 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:51.479 was brothers, drafted two thousand six to the Dimmer Broncos together. 0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:53.960 He was first round, I was fourth round. So we 0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.000 was connected at the hips, and you know, we had 0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:02.560 amazing start to our career. Uh, we went our separate ways. 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.840 Then we put the band back together in Chicago and 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:18.280 it just didn't work out. So it's years. I'm trying 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.320 to figure out. I'm trying to figure out where he where. 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.760 I'm trying to figure out trying to go generic because um, 0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:32.880 why y'all fell out? Yeah, why because at one point 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:34.800 you did uh and if it was Stephen A. Smith, 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.120 Steve steps trying to get you to throw him under 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.560 the bus. Yeah, yeah, yeah you didn't. You held him down, 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.720 and then it was like something happened after that, and 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:44.560 I just don't know what. I guess that's that would 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.760 be the better question, because I remember you hold him 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.280 down on and Stephen it was like I remember this 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.120 very very, very vividly because stephen A was trying to 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.240 get you to black. Come on, I get I get 0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.880 an example, right, like going back to Denver when when 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.400 I was when you know, I was young and dumb. Uh, 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:06.120 never gambled in my life, didn't know nothing, got you know, 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.680 a couple of dollars, went to Vegas for the first time, 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:11.760 lost my mind. You know. The first time I went 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:15.080 out there, one hundred went out there, the second time 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:19.760 lost like three grand. Went out there again, lost a 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.000 hundred something thousand. But this is a time where you know, 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:23.880 I ain't had no money. I was making four in 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.520 a year and then I lost more. I lost all 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.520 my money. I'm in the wind hotel. I called j Cutler. 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.320 I said, bro, I need sixty K to pay to 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.520 win Moneys in my account the next day, right, So 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.320 like that's where our relationship was. And then we get 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.360 to a point in Denver where I mean it's all 0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.120 football stuff. It's like, let's go win the championship. So 0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.040 that you know, the Jay Cutler and and you know, 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.480 the whole story around him is like is he a leader? 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:52.440 You know, is he the guy? He has all the 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.080 talent in the world. So when as we matured and 0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.320 we got away from all that little boys stuff, let's 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.400 go win the championship. They gave us the were the 0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.880 leaders now, and he just wasn't on that, and we 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.600 just went to we went to a place where we 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.720 didn't talk. Fast forward to to to this year. Jay. 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.000 You know, he went through a few personal things. I 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:11.800 don't want to go and dive deep into his business. 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.880 I'm laying a bit with my wife. My wife like, baby, 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:15.600 just hit him up, like just check on him because 0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.479 it's my brother. It's like, just check on him, man. 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.200 I hit him up for like three in the morning. 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.440 Here on my mind, were hit We're going back and forth, 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.120 back and forth. Right, He's like, Yeah, we're gonna meet up. 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:26.400 We're gonna do this school, do that. I go to 0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:30.080 Tennessee for a little break. Uh, he right around the corner. 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.880 I hit him up, him calling me him answer the call. 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.520 It's like the same old j Cutler. So you know, yeah, 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.320 Jay is one of those guys. Man. It's like if 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.240 you're in his circle, you're good. He loves you. If not, 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:45.280 it's like it's a whole another conversation. So yeah, like 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.600 how how is it? Because like, um, like the quarterback 0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.160 for for like lack of a better term, it's like 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.239 the leader. Correct, he's supposed to be so all right, 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.800 So if you're on a deep defensive side, do you 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.600 is are they in the same like you know frequency 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.960 like as a as a defensive player talking to the 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.120 quarterback or that's that's not the way this happened. And 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.000 if if you don't really talk to him, the good 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.760 quarterbacks have come during practice and say like, hey, why 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:16.560 did you drop back in his own and you know, 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.959 bulls your excello stuff. But the quarterback defense, I'll tell 0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.600 you Chad Pennington. I played with Chad Pennington. Chad Penning 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:25.680 was with the Jets. You don't know, you don't really 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:32.640 follow your daddy, but continue and that that was the 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.560 best quarterback play with But he would come to me 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.000 after that, after practice and be like, hey, in this 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:38.640 cup of three, why did you drop back in there? 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.240 Because I couldn't hit the end route and all that, 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.560 And I'd be like, because the back didn't flare that way, 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.680 so I had nothing to do. And I don't know 0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:46.760 if he needed me to tell him that, but he 0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.880 would just try to embrace the team. And I think 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.480 great quarterbacks make an effort to embrace the team. You 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.200 hit it on the head, and you, I don't know 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:55.600 if you knew you hit it on the head. But 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.880 a good quarterback understands what he is for the team. 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.600 And that's why he always wanted defense. The players food 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:10.400 with the quarterback. It's because that quarterback wanted. Have you 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:14.240 ever been on a team where the defensive the offensive? 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:18.920 Or in practice practice sometimes you know what if the 0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.400 defense strong, but during the games, you know, I've seen 0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.680 situations where my boys, I don't out with the defense, 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:30.760 but I ain't even really that's where the dogs play defensive. 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:36.080 Me the linebackers in the cornerbacks and pretty boys. And 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.600 then we were chilling. So they'll let us know though, 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.200 they'll be like, yoga, y'all need to Hey, what the 0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.680 fund y'all doing over there? I get this ship right. 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.040 So once the defensive player put that situation and play 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.080 like I'm gonna try to get the offense together. But 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.920 then after that it's the quarterback. The quarterback was the 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.360 one where everybody looking at saying, all right, what then 0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.800 is he gonna say? I was in New England for 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.640 two years with Brady towards the end of my career. 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:09.200 Brady treated everybody the same practice squad ten your back. 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.560 You know what I'm saying. That's that's why I think 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.600 Brady to go because he they say, Brady right to 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.040 sleep for practice? Is this some real get out of here? 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:22.920 But he described a whole days. I'm gonna tell you 0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:32.600 my situation. That's exactly what I want. I went, I 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.800 went to New England and you're twelve. I had Adam 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.360 did ten thousand yards in Jacksonville. You had twelve thousand 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:50.160 right now right because from it, so you know, going 0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.000 to New England. Um, I'm looking around this ship. I'm like, 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:54.680 I don't want took out what they got going on. 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.880 So I'm up there. But Tom, Tom run every fucking thing. 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.480 So you get up there and he's just chill. You 0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.080 know he chilled. I get up there like Freddy them 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.520 them PRPG bro. You know was that like he like, okay, 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.840 we're cool now. So he on the ship that I'm on. 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.680 So you get up there, practice squad in your vet. 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.319 Everybody on the same playing field. If you funked up 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.040 on the field, he's treated it the same. You know 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:24.800 everybody name, you know like everybody. It ain't about position. 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.640 It's about respecting what you can bring to the team 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.040 and how how how urgent you can get it done. 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.080 So that's what Tom was about. So he didn't minimize 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:39.720 who you were. He was making a hundred. He listened 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.759 to more like in the situation like Tom Brady and 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.000 Bill Belichick, who does the team listen to? More like 0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.719 if they're gonna listen to it in the trenches with 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:53.880 you know what tongue got the last say, Look when 0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.480 the last time you've seen the CEO fire their self? Wait? 0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:02.120 Wait wait wait what Oh if you're the CEO, yeah 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:08.080 you're gonna fight yourself? No, I don't think so when 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:12.000 when when Brady on the field, he the CEO? You 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.719 feel he left about what? What? What? What Belichick say? 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:17.680 Because at the end of the day. Who got to 0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.120 make these plays and get paid. That's how that was 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.359 my mind set. The same with Tom. So we're going 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.160 to field, tell me like he yo, pretty do the 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:29.239 ship this way? We did, We need it this way 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.800 in practice twenty times. But on the field, I just 0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.319 saw something. Do it this way. Guess what that's she's 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.320 gonna workfody. She ain't gonna say a motherfucking thing. It 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.640 never been a time but Belichick told you something and 0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.200 Tom to do something else. He was courting that confliction 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.960 I'm gonna do with Tom, say goddamn, I'm respect your lawyer. 0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:59.479 That's how. That's the business of it. Bro, I caught 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:06.680 that that that's that's like y'all answered like crazy questions 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.360 just like you don't even know, like I always thought that. 0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.440 I want to pay it real quick, right, If y'all 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.360 don't mind, I know, I know. It's just there's no 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.480 normal smart ship. We together. May we brought something from us. 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:27.800 Jelf Nasty got something from damn for you, Bro, you 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:32.040 probably get okay, shrimp burger. I've never had a shrimpburger. 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.399 I'm in Oh, it's fine, ship, But if you gotta 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.880 tell him why the strip Burger, so like significant you know, 0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:47.800 she represents the Christ. Yeah you know me, thank you. 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.480 So it's a shrimp urger, but it's all shrimp, no filler, 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.799 just shrimp and seeings. So it's a secret. I keep 0:36:54.840 --> 0:37:05.040 it together. It's don't get what I get a shot 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:13.560 at daily on bro yea for the coach. Yeah so 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:20.920 all right, bro, that was you're drinking when I'm drinking? 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.200 Was it ever a dream today? An't you worry about 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.160 what I'm drinking? Like? Um? Like if you said I 0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.719 get here and this this is my my you know, 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:33.920 because did you have to have a dream destination to 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.000 go to, Like like you're saying to yourself, like if 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.600 I get there, this is this is it? What's for? 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.279 You might have been Boston, right not? You know what? 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.920 Like I hear a lot of these young boys say, looking, man, 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.560 I had a dream when I was this age of 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:53.279 the Cowboys. I was a fan of certain team I 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.759 grew up, you know, down here in Florida's right. All 0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.200 I all I heard was Miami Dolphans in Miami, the 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:04.480 number one. I don't look. But then when I got older, 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:06.919 you know, I just wanted to make it to the league. 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.719 I didn't get for I just want to get a 0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.239 check and go back to the crib and chill. You 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.080 know what I'm saying. I ain't like, I ain't had 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:18.480 a capacity to think business marketing, you know, which is 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.000 what a lot of our guys failed to understand right now, 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.439 and I think that needs to change. But it didn't 0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.360 really matter to me. I just wanted to get to 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.480 wherever whoever drafted me and play. I just want to 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:35.120 compete all that other ship. It didn't matter how about you, Like, 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.799 you know, I always wanted to be on Depth Jam. 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.400 When I finally got the Depth Yam, it was almost 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.920 like for the first day I've walked in Depth Yah. 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.040 I take this true story. Um, I feel like I 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.080 was going to the Yankees right like, like you know 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.399 for you know talk. The day I'm supposed to sign, 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:58.080 I walk into building and um, every guy is there 0:38:58.080 --> 0:38:59.920 because you remember, you have to sign into Depth Jam 0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.960 to go upstairs. So egot is Then Argoty turns and 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.960 he looks at me. He goes, you're signed to signing today, right, 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:10.360 And I go yeah. He goes, don't celebrate, oh, And 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.480 I'm like what He's like, You're gonna have to work 0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:18.640 harder ever on a major, because you have success on 0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:22.479 on on a on an independent. Don't don't sleep, don't 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.400 let your guards down. And as everybody said that, he 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:31.359 turned around. I think he's a hater, But years later 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.080 I knew what he meant. He definitely shouldn't have said 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.040 that to me as young as I wasn't as hard 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.680 as he said. But when I did appreciate it years 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.080 later because he was like, yo, bro, just because you're 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.600 on a one of these established teams, don't mean that 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.759 you're gonna be established. You don't mean you're gonna be 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.839 jay Z might not be. You're not gonna be DMX nothing. 0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.320 You gotta only be you. But and you're gonna have 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.800 to work harder, So you gotta think about it, like 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.719 from the from a professional athletes, stand before you answer that, 0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.080 let's get this shot going. God, damn pull pull. We 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.840 should shot at man, I should have seen that shots 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:13.120 you gotta take that. It was a whole street kill. 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:18.600 He's working, damn. But he don't know. But they but 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.839 they know if we take too many more these, well, 0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.160 the whole party. I'm not allowed to watch the clips. 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.279 I can tell you. The ring leader like you, you 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.400 keep the room together. So you don't keep the room 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.920 together when the drunk ship come out, and when it 0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.480 come on, don't worry about. Don't worry about. It's called 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:39.680 drink chances. All second, we saw you were saying something. Yeah, 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:43.640 I mean, you know, from the sports perspective, you gotta 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:45.960 think about it. As soon as you get drafted, they're 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.319 down trying to replace you. So when you talk about 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:54.000 what is saying right like, yeah, you know say bro, 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:58.480 say that loud layman term. It's a young man's business. Yeah, 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:04.239 like you look at business, look at the product. Right, 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.239 it's gonna be way, way way more younger. You know, 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:13.040 guys that's ready to get in because they're cheaper at 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:14.360 the end of they You know what I'm saying. You 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.080 want to maximize profit. You want to make sure in 0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.160 the NFL. In the NFL, you want to keep your 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.920 salary cap tight. You know what I'm saying. You want 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.040 to have a lot of space on your cap. So 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.040 if you get young guys with potential, it's all about leverage, 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.320 but the opportunity to increase their value. But you'll have 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:35.120 a five year window. So every contract that's seen that's 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.520 done in the NFL you see these guys talk about 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:42.120 a hundred million dollars deal, right, they might get forty 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.000 million of the guarrant guarantee. Yeah, but that's only the 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:49.359 first three years. That's the life of the still got 0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.320 a life for the deal. Let's say you signed a 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:55.880 six year a hundred million dollars deal. The first three years, 0:41:56.160 --> 0:42:01.120 Let's say you get forty million guaranteed. That's only pertaining 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.759 to the first three years, and everybody is judged on 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.160 the first three stars, living like a forty million dollar nigger, 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:10.120 and then you get injured the other sixty million. It's 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.359 backloaded on that contract. So you got three years were 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:17.600 they're giving you forty boom, you might get thirty five 0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:21.399 million signing. Then then the next year they're gonna give 0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:25.200 you two. Then the next year, the third year, they're 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.600 gonna give you three. Right, so that's your forty mill guarantee. 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.439 They don't wipe their hands clean the next three years. 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.319 It's sixty mill on there. If you haven't shown them 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.840 that you can do ship, you have years cut you 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:43.640 because and they don't have to give you that sixty No, No, 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:49.040 it's like, yeah, since you've made a million dollars deal, 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.520 but really that was the life of the contract. It 0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:55.160 includes the marketing, the promotion, the label. But it's a 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:56.880 little bit different. It's a little let me take a 0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.719 little different label. They'll say, we'll give you one point 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:03.120 for right, and what happens is we'll go in and 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.240 we'll make an album. The album because one point seven, 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.480 so they will have the week forecast, that's what they 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:19.600 call it. And they got if you maximize that the 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.360 first three years, if you're gonna do your thing, that 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.759 that that third year where you might get twenty meal 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.440 because it's sixty meals left with three years left. But 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.440 on averages, if you're gonna get twenty meals, they don't 0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.399 want to see that twenty meal on this salary cap. 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:37.120 Say're gonna say, a right, Nori, we want to meet 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.680 with you in your Asian coming here. We're gonna find 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.120 a way to take the twenty meals off our hit 0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:47.319 because we we envisioned you being here another six years. 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.040 So they're gonna come in and they're gonna offer you 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:54.080 an extension where they're gonna give you new money, and 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.239 then that next that same year where you're just gonna 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.560 get that twenty in that year four where you're gonna 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.359 get twenty. They might say, we want to give you two, 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.840 but we're gonna add offer you a new contract with 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.640 another three year extension. So they're gonna make it a 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.760 six year deal, but they're gonna give you another hundred million, 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.000 you know what I'm saying. But the signing bonus is 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:14.960 gonna be But you really playing on the forty You 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.120 really playing like year to year in the NFL, like 0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:21.520 outside outside of like that guarantee side of to take 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:22.960 about when you walk and I wanted you to take 0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.000 off when you you left off for you said the 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:32.640 minute they draft you there trying to replace the injury rate. 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:37.720 And in the NFL is they know that any minute 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.400 the ankle could go and he could go right like 0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.880 that and it's over. Yeah, right, So looking that that 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.120 is a is a great example. But he's a quarterback. 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.520 If that's a running back, if that's why I received, 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.160 that's any other position, they're not getting a contract. They're 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.680 going back from lead minimum that Prescott is supposed to 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.799 make forty five million dollars or forty million dollars right 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.480 that Prescott's gonna get that because he's a quarterback. Any 0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.160 other position you're going to don't make one million dollars 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.520 and prove it proved to me that you're healthy. But 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.600 what I'm saying about at I got to understand every 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:08.799 time you walk in in the locker room, and I'm 0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.960 not I'm not, I'm not exaggerating. Every day we walk 0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:13.600 into the locker room. They had they got a thing 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.799 called core guys. There's like four or five guys that's untouchable. 0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.399 That year. You're gonna see somebody with a trash bag 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.240 walking out, and you're gonna see somebody with a suitcase 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.480 walking in, and they give them the same jersey, they 0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.440 give them the same locker room every day. The numbers 0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.960 man got to the same number every day, every day, 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:42.719 every day. To this conversation, I don't know, I don't 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.200 know a lot of people that we're talking about this, 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:51.560 he said, So we talked about this an im athlete. 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:53.920 A lot of people don't know that every year you're 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:57.839 playing the NFL, you have to make more money. It's 0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.600 called the minimum. So like right that first year, what 0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.520 is it like six fifty? No No League minimal was 0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:08.040 almost it's like eight. It's like when I was at 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.400 my first year, we had to make two hundred and 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.120 third or seven thousand. My second year we had to 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:17.520 make two seventy hundred seventy thousand. But when every year 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.160 in the c b A, the Collective Bargaining Agreement, that's 0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:26.080 that's the NFLPA vers NFL. There's a set there's a 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:29.879 set number on every player if he's played three years, 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.440 four years, five years, six years, eighteen years, that he 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.239 has to make. They try to work. And that's what 0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.799 you were talking about. They're trying to replace every time 0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.240 when you get drafted and trying to replace you because 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:45.800 they have a league minimum because when they draft you 0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.600 at four hundred thousand, if the dude the next year 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.160 it's better than you at five hundred thousand. Numbers, it's 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:56.120 all about numbers. You're not broke. Let me let me 0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:59.920 say that. Dudes think their names are their names. Brandon Marshall, 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.640 Fred Taylor, you're not Fred telling Brandon Marshall you're running 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.680 back one and your receiver one, and then you're gonna 0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:13.080 be received numbers. It's all going to regrets that. Here's 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.200 here's what both of like with both of you guys 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.680 been saying I got this this do say this is 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.440 two hundred million dollars that each team has to spend. 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.920 It's not that that that collective bargain agreements around like 0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:25.920 a hundred and seventy million, give or take a few 0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.319 million every single year. Now we're in the pandemic. So TV, right, 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.880 the TV deals is what pay like, that's where the 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.560 money comes from, you know. So now let's say it's 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.080 easy numbers, two hundred million dollars we got to spend 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:42.719 U throughout this the sixty guys. If I got a 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:46.840 guy making ten million dollars, Brandon Marshall making ten million dollars, 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.960 and he's given me a thousand yards ten touchdowns a year, 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:54.319 that's his production, right, great, awesome. But as soon as 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.440 I find a guy that I can pay four hundred 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.840 dollars and he can give me nine hundred yards or 0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:05.279 thousands and those ten touchdowns, now they're gonna come back 0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:06.520 to you and say, hey, we need to we need 0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:08.840 to renegotiate your deal. We're gonna cut you or we 0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:10.960 want We're just gonna cut you. Right. So that's what 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.920 it's about day to day in the NFL. And this 0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:18.200 is something that no young player coming in knows from 0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:21.360 the get I'm assuming now they only had agents or 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.960 anybody from from the entrance trying to well, guys know, yeah, 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.279 guys understand it, you know, as far as like the 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.480 numbers and you know, and especially nowadays because we have 0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:32.799 podcasts and we have these types of discussions, so they 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.280 got access to information. But I don't think every guy understand. 0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:38.880 What Channing said is that I don't care about you. 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:41.440 I care about what you can do for me today. 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.200 The NFL stand for that National Football League. It stands 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.160 for not for long, right, And that's what they don't understand. 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:54.839 They're trying to. It's crazy, y'all favorite player, pick them 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:56.640 up in yall mind. I don't even want to hear 0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.799 whatever the fail y'all favorite NFL playing all y'all's mind. 0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:04.080 There is an organization that's trying to replace him because 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:08.200 he's getting older every day. Pretty to go. They let 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:18.960 his ass gold because his ass could y'all y'all favorite player. 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:22.879 And Patrick mahomest with somebody mind because I love Patrick Holmes, 0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:26.040 my dude. Right now, the Kansas City Chiefs have to 0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:32.480 have a meeting about Patrick mahomes When a little pretty redhead, 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:36.480 fluffy and curly head, motherfuck get old, when do we 0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:39.839 need to replace him? Think about that. That's the drink. 0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:44.480 Kansas City chiefs. The city chiefs have to talk about 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:50.320 when to replace Patrick Rogers. Example, it's a perfect example. 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:59.640 Aaron Rodgers and m VP and VPP Mars go ahead, 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:14.520 we can talk about that after this. Aaron Rodgers is 0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.879 the best quarterback right now in the NFL. The Green 0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.759 Bay Packers drafted Jordan's Love in first round. In the 0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.040 first round last year. They didn't get a damp bro. 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:27.320 They didn't they didn't get the best player in the NFL, 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:29.920 a better running back, a better left tap or the 0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:33.600 protective got him. They got him a replacement because Aaron 0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:36.080 Rodgers is old and they didn't know how long he 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:42.640 can But they can't think about right. In rap we 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:46.200 have things called a grandfather contract. Right, So a grandfather 0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:49.040 contract is like, um, no matter what I could, I 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.480 can sell two records tomorrow, but you you can't pay 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.799 me less than a certain amount. Like I believe al 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.840 l has a grandfather's contract. Um, yeah, we do have that. 0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:58.720 That's that. That's what they said the CB and collective 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:00.399 bargain agreements. So we're gonna go all there and say 0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.120 if you're if you if you're a veteran, passed this 0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:08.480 amount of years, this is how much you can can ye, Yes, 0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.000 we got stuff like okay, okay, but at the end 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:12.480 of day, you talk about kick him out. Yeah, that's 0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.879 why they drafted him. Perfect. It was Aaron Rodgers about 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:17.080 to win the m v P. They drafted guy in 0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.360 the first round, that first round, quarter quarterback. Quarterback, that 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.520 quarterback ain't gonna have to win the Super Bowl this year. 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.239 They didn't go get somebody on defense. But what they 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.200 do is they go get him, and now they can 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.759 turn around this year if he didn't perform well and 0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:31.680 say we're gonna cut you or we need you to 0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:33.680 take a pay up. So that thirty five that thirty 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:35.440 six million you posed to make, we need you to 0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:40.160 be at fifteen. But that's about to ask let me 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.400 get guests to make. So does Aaron Rodgers does he 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:46.000 mentor this this dude doing that eventually, this guy's gonna 0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.279 take my place? Does he say this guy tell him 0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:54.000 come to practice? Yeah? Yeah, no, every guy, you might 0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:58.160 you might have friends because every situation, right, yeah, they 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:02.279 When I was Inville, you know, I got injured a 0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:04.800 couple of seasons and the team has to do what 0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:06.359 the team has to do. It. When I was a player, 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.080 I ain't really understand it, but you know, I just 0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:10.880 wanted to win. I didn't give a funk about it. 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:15.360 The plus I wanted to compete to So my team 0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.880 they drafted, like for probably about a ten year period, 0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:21.840 they drafted to running backs a year. So they drafted 0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:27.279 running backs my teen years and in Jacksonville. And guess 0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:30.640 what I did. I stepped up to the plate. They 0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.040 made me do my thing. I'm like, me, worry about 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.440 this ship. I talked in the playbook and all of that. 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:40.200 So they they insert Jones Drew who went and did 0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.399 this thing. So as a player, I'm more comfortable knowing 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.200 I got somebody that can go out there and do 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:48.600 the thing when I'm recovering, when I'm getting my rest, 0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.000 I'm tired of ship. I'm like, damn, I hain't out 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.480 of Paul. Extra stress on me. This young boy, he 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:55.640 gonna get out there, he's gonna do his thing. We're 0:52:55.640 --> 0:53:00.759 not gonna right in the same position. So it all 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.800 depends on your relationship with you know what's going on. 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:11.759 But then I've seen mostly the receiver position you know, 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:17.919 the receipt and all respect to them. This is why 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.520 it can be two to three receivers on the field 0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:24.360 at a time. He'd have started, but he might not 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.880 be getting the ball that day based on the They 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:30.640 could be doubling him, swinging everybody to his side. Now 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:35.640 he gotta depend on receivers X they go make plays. 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:39.239 If he's not making plays and we're not winning, Like ship, 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.200 I could have thrown the double coverage. Let me get 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:43.080 me a shot. You know what I'm saying, we gonna 0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:47.280 lose the game. So it depends on But the reality 0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:51.040 is I always say this of the guys in the NFL, 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.960 like we talked about fraternity, you draft, We drafting guys 0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.360 every year. We're bringing a new free agents and ninety 0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:01.040 probably even the guys um you know they're they're they're 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:03.040 they're helping the guys out. So new guy come in, 0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:07.120 you know he's there to replace you. They drafted or 0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:10.480 or or brought him in free agency to take your 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.359 some of your production. And you're gonna see that guy 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.440 go through the playbook with him. Let me show you 0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:19.000 this is this person in the organization. Here's my massage therapist, 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:21.840 here's my real estate agent. That's that fraternity that we 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.359 talked about, right, And that's a that's across the board 0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.880 every once in a while, like if a guy is 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.279 treating a rookie bad, not because he's a rookie, like 0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:31.439 a rookie come in, you know, you gotta pay your dudes, 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:34.319 but like not trying to show him the way. It's 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.080 kind of dving, Like we look at him like, dude, 0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.360 what is you doing? Right, because that's not the culture. 0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:41.160 It's counterculture. In the league week, we have this mindset 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:44.839 of look, we're gonna help you out at the end 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:52.320 of the day because you know what the crazy ship is. 0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:54.960 And I'm a Swiss of the story A subject a 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:59.520 little bit right now. Um, I bike by aga and 0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:08.840 shot right bike ride right open, Yeah, yeah, like that 0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:32.359 cycle the motorized. I got electronic bike sound. So it's 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:35.279 a it's a time that when we start the bike ride, 0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:38.640 I could tell he's back on the field, like he's 0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:42.960 not he's yelling at everybody get on the bike. I 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:46.200 just he's back on the field, like he's like, I'll 0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:50.840 be looking at her. You know. The other day he called, 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.080 he was like, but the other day we drove and 0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:59.640 it was an Amazon truck that pulled up. I stopped, 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:05.360 like any human being, who do why in the nuts? 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:07.759 He pulled on the side of them, you know how 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:11.040 big an Amazon and not looking cause I'm trying to 0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:15.600 do what he do and he blocked the Amazon truck. 0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:27.719 I said, I'm not doing guys, Like, So, what I'm 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:34.759 trying to say is I wish I was exaggerated. I 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.920 wish I was exaggerated, Like, so, I'm just trying to 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:41.479 picture y'all. Is you telling this story, y'all, y'all psychic suits. 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:52.399 I'm the pych suit, y'all because I'm going to buck 0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:57.680 the bayle because my's sucked up. But what I'm trying 0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:00.719 to say is like, is that is do you'll ever 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.120 like turn the game off? Or is that something that 0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:08.080 that is? That? Is that a four? So? So so 0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:10.560 we just had that conversation. But for me, that's why 0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.359 when we talk about you know, why I struggle earlier 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.920 on in my career because as a player, and I 0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:18.080 hate to use this word because I'm big on mental health, 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:20.480 but it can paint the picture for people. But you 0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:25.920 almost gotta be bipolar. And I say that, no, no, 0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:27.480 I don't wanna go down there. I don't want to 0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:31.919 go there now because no. So you gotta be able 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:34.200 to go on the field turn that switch on. You 0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:37.480 gotta think about it. This dude way two pounds. He 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:40.600 running twenty two miles per hour. I'm two hundred thirty pounds. 0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:42.920 I'm running twenty four miles per hour forty yards and 0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:46.600 were coming hit hit the head. You gotta have a 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.520 different mentality to do that. So, like, how do you 0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:52.280 have that mentality turn that switch on? You gotta go 0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:54.880 to a different place and then you go off the field, 0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.640 your husband, your your father, and you gotta turn that. 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:01.200 A lot of a lot of guys don't have that, 0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:03.120 like fred T had that, like he could go on 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:05.160 the field, turn that on naturally, then on the off 0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:08.320 the field, cool chill of the coolest dude in the league. Right. 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:10.000 A lot of guys gotta work on that. So, like 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.479 you talk about Warren, we got a lot of guys 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.360 that's that are retired that's still gotta learn how to 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:21.520 turn that switch on. It. I don't think that. Yeah, 0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:24.200 Jel this ship. So I hung out with him one day, 0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:26.200 I hung out Vick one day. I'm going south. This 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:33.160 this is this is two different things. Okay, what I'm 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:36.040 saying I met you, Okay, Okay, I made you through 0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:39.680 vicking sound and this is bro. It is perfect. But 0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:43.560 it Okay, I didn't play tay. We're just hanging out 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:48.120 and B, you don't remember I just said that. I 0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:57.600 totally remember what he said. I just do app but no. 0:58:57.800 --> 0:58:59.880 But but Bro, if you don't understand, and this is 0:58:59.880 --> 0:59:04.360 the perfect conversation. And in this aspect where you know Vic, 0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:08.320 you know me, and you don't heard what Be just said, 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:11.480 you heard everybody is said, Bro, that ship like of 0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:16.880 locking in and then letting go, locking in and letting go. 0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:20.560 And it's funny. It's funny to say that me and 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.920 me and B because with with Brandon, with all the 0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:26.480 mental health stuff, Bro, we don't have some real, like 0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:31.720 man conversations about mental health. And with different things, with 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.520 our podcasts and with different things, we'd had some real 0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:38.640 conversations with mental health. And that's the thing that I 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:43.440 think men don't want to do is talk about that. 0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.040 It's talk about what football did us and talk about 0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:48.880 what what like the life that we lived in us 0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:51.920 And people don't understand it's one percent of people that 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:56.560 have our our experiences and I tell you what I 0:59:56.640 --> 1:00:00.560 tell you the other day, Bro, I appreciate you, And 1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:02.920 he text me back, he said, I love you, I 1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:15.960 love you, my brother. Let's make some more you freaky friend, Bro, 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:27.200 I am only people. Only people is nasty. Let my 1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:38.680 point friend, nasty, But bro, Bro, what for a man perspective? 1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:41.560 And to see us sitting around drinking a bullshit? Bro? 1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:45.000 To have a dude that done did so much like 1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:47.920 a man that's made it, a man that's like that 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.240 is even bigger than you, and just talk to him 1:00:50.520 --> 1:00:53.600 and text him, bro, I love you, bro, And that 1:00:53.760 --> 1:00:56.360 man text me I love you too, my dude, my man, 1:00:56.800 --> 1:01:02.880 that's that that that clicks when I worried. That clicks. 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:05.800 That's beautiful to have a man that that, that appreciates you, 1:01:05.920 --> 1:01:09.080 that respects you and your goods. You're shot ready for 1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:12.840 We are ready shot for you. Let me tell you. 1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:15.640 I like that in this game they say we got 1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:18.440 ten years of more. You're washed up. We ain't washed up. 1:01:18.520 --> 1:01:22.160 We want to salute all legends to give you godda 1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:25.760 flouts to your faith. I like that you shut this 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:36.080 nigger giving you felt the light skin ship. Aren't you 1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:38.080 light skinting dogs. I used to be light skinned. I 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:40.400 want to be eight car block right now. I've been trying. 1:01:40.440 --> 1:01:49.919 I don't Yeah, no, man, no, I want to mesin skin. Man, 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:58.680 I ain't know you. This is the question I want 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:01.640 to pose real quick, right, I'm gonna say real quick. 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:06.520 He talking about you know guys in our profession that 1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:09.480 you know they talk about CTE with the head and 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:14.200 depression and you know what I'm saying, m h and 1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:17.600 and and and wrap. You got guys that run with 1:02:18.000 --> 1:02:21.960 twenty deep entourage, they big what happens with the light 1:02:22.120 --> 1:02:24.520 them when they ain't getting the money the same way? 1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:27.720 You know what I'm saying, When when all everybody that 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:31.280 was running with him, like what happens in those situations 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:35.680 when they depressed, like what they're going through mentally? Well, um, 1:02:35.800 --> 1:02:37.240 I have said it on the show. I forget what 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:40.360 show it was, but I said, man, you're the man Monday. 1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:42.960 It's hard to wake up on Wednesday and not be 1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:45.280 the man. You understand what I'm saying. And the thing 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:47.960 and the thing about it is this, you know, like 1:02:48.080 --> 1:02:50.880 even with football, Like you know football, I always used 1:02:50.880 --> 1:02:53.200 to kind of think like it's one of the most 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:57.480 protective sports because guys faces are covered. So so so 1:02:57.640 --> 1:03:01.200 if if somebody's not really into the football, somebody can say, yo, 1:03:01.520 --> 1:03:03.320 you this is and you can say no, that's it. 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:05.480 You can't really do that, Like I can't really like 1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:10.560 they say that you Norrie. The thing about it is, um, 1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:13.200 we all deal with it. This is a this is 1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:19.000 a version of being posted maaticum rapsodrome because this is it. 1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:21.240 This is it because you know what it was. I 1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:25.040 wasn't addicted to the actual money. I was addicted to 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:28.520 the thrill of Southern Records. That thrill like when I 1:03:28.640 --> 1:03:31.400 dropped the album and that week of that album, it's 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:35.520 a certain ball. So so when I kind of retired 1:03:35.600 --> 1:03:38.680 from hip hop without saying I retire from hip hop, 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:40.840 that's what I missed. I would miss the thrill whether 1:03:40.920 --> 1:03:43.919 it worked or not. But with a podcast, I could 1:03:44.160 --> 1:03:48.840 fulfill that thrill every week. Every fucking episode that's gonna 1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:51.960 go platinum, like every episode, not even gold. Like you 1:03:52.000 --> 1:03:53.640 know I was a gold artist and you know I 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:59.120 got one platinum. Let's make noise, but everyone don't blatinum. 1:03:59.440 --> 1:04:03.560 But this I'm actually even like even bigger. The numbassy 1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:05.600 is even bigger. So but this is a form of 1:04:06.640 --> 1:04:09.200 the thing is. The thing is this, This is this 1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:12.720 is what's fucked up about being an artist is your 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:16.920 team pumps you up, your record label pumps you up, 1:04:17.120 --> 1:04:21.160 your management pumps you up to be this guy. And 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:24.440 then when you start acting like that guy, they say 1:04:24.760 --> 1:04:31.400 you's to do that. You ain't that guy. They push 1:04:31.480 --> 1:04:33.800 you to go Hollywood, and then when you go Hollywood 1:04:33.840 --> 1:04:37.080 they judge you for that. And the thing is, what 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:39.560 you gotta know is the same people you you said 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:43.080 don't know going up, you're gonna see coming down. And 1:04:43.240 --> 1:04:45.200 so you got So that's why in our game you 1:04:45.280 --> 1:04:51.520 have to have balance because, um, I really like look 1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:53.840 at it more like a comedian almost. I always used 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:55.880 to compare us to the sports, but I almost now 1:04:56.000 --> 1:04:58.680 compared to a comedian like Kevin Hard guy all these 1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:01.800 five ten fift and guys. When Kevin Hart go on stage, 1:05:01.800 --> 1:05:03.880 he could only he can't his friends can't be funny 1:05:03.920 --> 1:05:05.600 for him. You know what I'm saying. It's the same 1:05:05.640 --> 1:05:09.960 thing with rap, but entertainment is a little different because, um, 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:13.160 like I said, they pushed off face so much and 1:05:14.440 --> 1:05:18.720 when it when you do become famous, and then they 1:05:18.760 --> 1:05:25.880 take the opportunity away from it's a famous but that, 1:05:26.040 --> 1:05:28.320 but that, but that's not a big I mean it's 1:05:28.360 --> 1:05:32.320 the same. It's anonymous rapping sports and uh, you know 1:05:32.960 --> 1:05:35.400 it's interesting because a lot of guys and I see you, 1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:39.680 I see Fat Joe, and I'm like, yo, their genius, 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:43.120 they get it. A lot of our our entertainers, a 1:05:43.200 --> 1:05:45.560 lot of athletes don't have a second career. They don't 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:48.960 even have a plan B. It's it, this is why, 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:52.080 this is why I was here. I'm born to catch 1:05:52.120 --> 1:05:55.760 a football, I'm born to rap. It's over. Now, what 1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:58.400 did you have that plan that? Did you know where 1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:01.680 the plan B was? Because for me, like halfway through 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:03.840 my career, I started setting up everything I'm doing now 1:06:04.560 --> 1:06:07.160 because I'm studying the people that came before me, and 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:10.000 I don't think everybody has a plan B. Understand that 1:06:10.080 --> 1:06:12.560 it could be taken away and what's next? Because you 1:06:12.680 --> 1:06:14.440 retire at what how old was you when you've been 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:17.320 talking to you gonna think about this? It's so hard 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:19.840 to tell somebody. Man, you think about later on in 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:22.960 life when you win. When you winning, like, that's the 1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:25.480 worst time to tell somebody. You know you're gonna have 1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:31.760 a rainy day because you're looking like, but here's my thing. 1:06:32.080 --> 1:06:37.640 Here's hard sports and music. Average career three years. But 1:06:37.720 --> 1:06:41.000 let's say you have a good career, right, thirteen years, 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:46.440 you retire at thirty four. How many fifty year old rappers? 1:06:46.480 --> 1:06:49.880 And there's only one or two for real? Jay z Uh. 1:06:53.520 --> 1:06:57.080 But but the same, it's the same you put it 1:06:57.120 --> 1:06:59.800 on jay Z. You know you got a couple of guys. 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:03.120 You know, he just came out. He fought me something 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:06.040 years of age. Right, what are you doing with life 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:08.400 after that? There's so much life to live. So that's 1:07:08.400 --> 1:07:12.240 the man slide. Whether you're an entertainer, if you're an athlete, 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:15.640 you gotta understand that. When whether you if you walk 1:07:15.640 --> 1:07:18.760 away in your terms, you still wanna be you. Wow, 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:23.600 how you created house an athlete? Yeah, I mean I 1:07:23.640 --> 1:07:26.360 would tell you this with Brandon and he's going back 1:07:26.400 --> 1:07:29.640 to the early conversation, be me and be really cool. 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:31.800 And like you said, I think I was a person 1:07:31.920 --> 1:07:35.360 that be has never met in his life, a dude 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:39.480 that just funs off, like I don't care about anything else. 1:07:39.600 --> 1:07:44.600 I just I just enjoyed life. And for Brandon and 1:07:44.720 --> 1:07:47.720 he can he can address it where on the back 1:07:47.840 --> 1:07:50.960 end of the career. I never saw somebody grind as 1:07:51.040 --> 1:07:55.080 hard as you do. Bro. He grinds house an athlete, 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:59.760 he has he has the combine guys and he has guys. 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:02.800 I'm in towards the feeling he has white and hears 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:08.560 and stuff. Bro. There, my personal opinion is that there's 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:12.360 there is not another Brandon Marshall has ever lived in 1:08:12.400 --> 1:08:26.120 the NFL. You be a part of it? Can you 1:08:26.200 --> 1:08:30.600 give me another Brandon? That was? That was? That was 1:08:30.680 --> 1:08:42.040 so cute? Bro. No, I just think I think for me, 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:46.280 and it's like I always leaked into what I don't know, 1:08:46.960 --> 1:08:48.400 you know what I'm saying. Like, I always felt like 1:08:48.720 --> 1:08:50.840 if I know what I don't know, I can go 1:08:50.960 --> 1:08:53.160 find an answer. I can go google something quick, I 1:08:53.280 --> 1:08:55.559 go pick up a book quick. You know what I'm saying. 1:08:55.600 --> 1:08:57.880 I got the other y'all over there, Booth, I got 1:08:57.920 --> 1:09:02.160 the other y'allum, I can't so like that was that 1:09:02.280 --> 1:09:05.080 was always my That was always my mentality is figure 1:09:05.120 --> 1:09:07.600 out what I don't know and build off of that. 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:10.479 So when you think about, you know, this transition that 1:09:10.560 --> 1:09:13.880 we're talking about, whether you're an athlete or entertainer, you know, 1:09:13.960 --> 1:09:16.000 you start studying it, like, damn, why are so many 1:09:16.040 --> 1:09:21.240 of our guys uh depressed filing for bankruptcy when the 1:09:21.360 --> 1:09:24.680 game or the stage is taken away from him, right 1:09:24.720 --> 1:09:26.519 because there's no planing b So what I did is 1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:29.320 I spent three months at Harvard and I did a 1:09:29.400 --> 1:09:33.120 case study studying entertainers athletes and figuring out, like how 1:09:33.200 --> 1:09:38.760 did they use utilize There's a he was asking. But 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:41.280 that's that's the thing though, Like I spent that time 1:09:41.320 --> 1:09:42.880 trying to figure out, like how do you use your 1:09:42.920 --> 1:09:46.439 platform something that's that's amazing right now? But I want 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:48.320 to build something that last longer than the game, that 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:51.439 longer longer than the rhymes. And so we put this 1:09:51.520 --> 1:09:53.560 plan together and a couple of people jumped out to me, 1:09:53.960 --> 1:09:57.519 Magic Johnson, I'll start their Lift Live, arm Strong landtm 1:09:57.560 --> 1:09:59.920 Strong as well. But Magic Johnson, I can't understand, like 1:10:00.000 --> 1:10:01.840 how you work for almost a half a bi a 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:05.240 half a billion dollars and you still on ESPN and 1:10:05.320 --> 1:10:06.920 they're paying you a couple of million dollars, Like you 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:09.920 losing money? Like why are you doing that? You know 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:12.439 you uhould be in the office. And I realized that 1:10:12.479 --> 1:10:15.040 it was another platform. I realized that you know, he 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:17.559 was had so many different ventures. So like I started 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:20.400 studying those blueprints and and and and I just feel 1:10:20.439 --> 1:10:23.400 like a lot of our guys need to understand that 1:10:23.760 --> 1:10:25.880 when you retire, the game is taken away from you. 1:10:26.360 --> 1:10:29.080 You're still young, So study the people that came before 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:32.160 you and build off of that. And it's an identity 1:10:32.240 --> 1:10:34.400 thing too, because I think people get absolve and just 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:37.720 this is my identity. I'm just the ballplayer. That's all 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:40.240 I can do. Understanding that their identity could be all 1:10:40.320 --> 1:10:43.680 kinds of things. Well, that was Antonio Brown. We had 1:10:43.760 --> 1:10:46.080 him on here, but before we had when we had 1:10:46.120 --> 1:10:47.920 him on here, I asked him about an interview that 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:52.639 he did where I think he was, um, uh, what's 1:10:52.640 --> 1:10:55.559 the guy? Um, that's what's keep skip ballst uh stephen 1:10:55.600 --> 1:11:00.599 As So he was kind of like this and Sharon Shop. 1:11:00.680 --> 1:11:02.519 He was like, man, um, I don't want to do 1:11:02.600 --> 1:11:06.360 what Sharon Shop is doing because when I retired from 1:11:06.360 --> 1:11:09.040 the NFL, I want to own a tuning team. I 1:11:09.080 --> 1:11:10.880 don't want to be talking about it team Like how 1:11:10.960 --> 1:11:13.040 you play? How you he said? He said it was 1:11:13.520 --> 1:11:16.960 on Lebron show The Shop, and he was like how 1:11:17.120 --> 1:11:19.360 you play football? All your life and then you go, 1:11:20.120 --> 1:11:22.400 you know, top football again, like what are you doing? 1:11:22.880 --> 1:11:24.439 He called him a clown all that I know exactly 1:11:24.439 --> 1:11:26.400 what you're saying. How do you do? How do you 1:11:26.479 --> 1:11:29.479 guys feel on that statement, because I mean what we do? 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:31.760 Be min you want to you want to own a 1:11:31.840 --> 1:11:34.519 team one day? No, I'm trying to. I'm trying to 1:11:34.760 --> 1:11:37.799 create the next billion dollar black owned, the first billion 1:11:37.880 --> 1:11:41.599 dollar Black on wellness brand. That's what I'm trying to do. Well, 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:44.760 we don't participate in that, you know, like how do 1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:47.000 we eat better? How do we supplement? How do we 1:11:47.360 --> 1:11:49.080 you know what I'm saying trained like we were dying. 1:11:49.200 --> 1:11:53.080 Like if this pandemic ain't teach us nothing, it taught us. Yeah. 1:11:54.439 --> 1:11:57.200 So that's what I'm on. Bro. I want to say something, 1:11:57.240 --> 1:12:00.320 but we want you to say something. We love you. 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:20.280 Come on, come on, sue. Mm hmm oh, I'll tell 1:12:20.360 --> 1:12:27.439 you all. One thing. I wish that there was a 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:31.640 larger percent of people that thought like Brandon Marshall and 1:12:31.840 --> 1:12:34.920 you were early what we hour ago? Whatever you ask like, 1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:37.960 how how did I am athlete? Be? I am athletes? 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:42.160 Brandon Marshall and miss Marshall And you want me to 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:46.200 call everybody else names. And that's a bro. He brings 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:49.280 a team. He brings a team. When he started when 1:12:49.360 --> 1:12:53.680 when when Brandon started this, when he started was out 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:56.519 the first part of hyah men you we were you know, 1:12:56.640 --> 1:12:59.240 it was when you were talking. It was the same 1:12:59.280 --> 1:13:01.439 thing we were saying in there. And all our kids 1:13:01.479 --> 1:13:05.479 played together, all I can play together. Yeah we didn't 1:13:05.479 --> 1:13:08.960 say that. And I'll tell you my golf cart is 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:15.280 way not say this, bro. I got that ship on 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:19.240 the knee. That guy Brandon didn't know what about the 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:20.920 golf car. He didn't know how you can set up 1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:22.439 the golf cart. And I set up the golf cart. 1:13:22.880 --> 1:13:26.559 But with when when Brandon saw how you can line 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:32.439 things up and you can really appreciate and respect the 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:37.960 attention that you can get from this bro and with y'all, 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:40.360 with y'all, and I love y'all show. I watched everyone 1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:42.559 of y'all show. That's why I brought the bottom because 1:13:42.600 --> 1:13:44.240 I'm going to be I know you had all this. 1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:48.880 I know about the bottom man. And and Brandon had 1:13:48.920 --> 1:13:52.080 a vision and he knew that you can capitalize on 1:13:52.240 --> 1:13:55.240 your on your your name, your likeness and all that. 1:13:55.760 --> 1:13:58.599 And Brandon talked about talk to me about that years ago. 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:02.120 Here's the thing, though, this is this is the reality 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:06.519 to I look at like our platforms, whether it's Drink Champs, 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:11.559 I immediately guy's been doing I Am Athlete only eight months? Yeah, yeah, 1:14:11.600 --> 1:14:13.840 only eight months. Yeah like this. I didn't want to 1:14:13.880 --> 1:14:16.080 get to this until like two years from now, but 1:14:16.200 --> 1:14:18.400 the pandemic shut everything down. I was like, ship, we 1:14:18.520 --> 1:14:21.040 all in the same neighborhood, let's come together and the 1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:23.240 show we don't know what's going take off the way 1:14:23.439 --> 1:14:26.680 it did. But my mind, because it's the locker room 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:28.599 is real talking. People don't want to hear any more 1:14:28.680 --> 1:14:36.880 excess those suits and ties room talk. Like this platform, 1:14:37.240 --> 1:14:40.800 Drink Champs, I am Athlete, it's an incubator for talent. 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:43.240 What it is it's is the tech. Look at this 1:14:43.400 --> 1:14:45.200 name right here, This dude been on This dude been 1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:49.360 on local radio in Miami and talking about the Miami Heat, 1:14:49.439 --> 1:14:51.840 talking about the Miami Dolphins for ten years, and he's 1:14:51.840 --> 1:14:53.280 one of the best in the industry. I've been on 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:57.200 showtime inside the NFL for seven years with the best 1:14:57.240 --> 1:14:59.000 of the best getting paid a lot of money. I'm like, no, 1:14:59.200 --> 1:15:01.560 they can't even touch him. So in my mind is 1:15:01.640 --> 1:15:05.080 like you know when I first went out, when like 1:15:05.200 --> 1:15:06.760 after a month or two and we're creating the show 1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:08.760 at show times and everybody call us saying, man, we 1:15:08.840 --> 1:15:10.760 like what y'all doing. The first thing they said this, 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:13.040 I don't know, maybe you'll should put Reggie Bush on, 1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:15.759 like I don't know about Chaney Crowder. Who's Chaney Crowder? 1:15:16.040 --> 1:15:17.960 And that's like y'all just gotta understand that you'll wait 1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:20.200 and see. And now all these people want to buy 1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:22.920 a show, and they're like, he is the star, you 1:15:22.960 --> 1:15:25.680 know what I'm saying, something his life ship, like he 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:29.840 ain't gonna say you're the center, like let that. Let 1:15:29.920 --> 1:15:32.280 me take said that I directed all the question. I 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:36.320 knew forever was gonna get quiet at the while. I 1:15:36.439 --> 1:15:40.080 just I was wanting, like you told what you want 1:15:41.600 --> 1:15:47.960 say football like like like so so I knew it. 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:51.160 But it's it's a certain energy that you you you possess, 1:15:51.280 --> 1:15:55.000 you command the room and you don't even try it, 1:15:55.200 --> 1:15:56.320 like you know what I'm saying. So I was I 1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:58.760 was gonna be up, so I was ready for you. 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:02.920 But my wife I told my wife, I said, I'm 1:16:02.960 --> 1:16:06.160 going on drinks and she said you're going on drinks. 1:16:06.479 --> 1:16:08.200 I said, yeah, I'm going to drinks, and like, well, 1:16:08.200 --> 1:16:12.920 we gotta get your heads, we gotta get we gotta 1:16:12.960 --> 1:16:16.720 get you about this shirt yesterday. I'm gonna tell you 1:16:17.000 --> 1:16:21.120 because again, like I said, when I came into this game, 1:16:21.160 --> 1:16:23.439 I thought every wrapper hung out together. When I found 1:16:23.479 --> 1:16:26.000 that out, I was crushed. When I found out football players, 1:16:26.479 --> 1:16:29.559 I thought every football player knows every football player. I thought, 1:16:29.600 --> 1:16:31.479 when you go home at night, Jerry Rice, call you. 1:16:33.200 --> 1:16:39.280 You know what I'm saying, what's my man? Just said? 1:16:39.320 --> 1:16:44.160 You know he's on your answer. Everyone knew everyone, And 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:46.640 then to come to find out that it's just like 1:16:46.880 --> 1:16:50.120 rap and then see there's fo y'all like it could 1:16:50.120 --> 1:16:51.639 have been one, that could have been two, It could 1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:55.040 have been Twitter, it could have been before. I was like, damn, 1:16:55.080 --> 1:16:58.960 this is the woof Tang clan, like these things exact Nancy. 1:17:01.280 --> 1:17:03.160 I was listening to this song and this is why, 1:17:03.360 --> 1:17:07.160 right Chef Nancy, she didn't cook for Michael straighthand she 1:17:07.240 --> 1:17:13.320 didn't cook for um uh, Robin Roberts, Kelly Roland, everybody. 1:17:13.479 --> 1:17:17.000 She's sick and she got a Jamaica queens. Why we 1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:19.599 don't got our own seasoning. Why we ain't got our 1:17:19.600 --> 1:17:21.800 own cookbook. So yeah, you're gonna come on the show, 1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:24.160 and everybody. I love Chef Nancy. I love Chef Nancy. 1:17:24.160 --> 1:17:26.479 And guess what's happened next, mouch Chef Nancy dropping her 1:17:26.520 --> 1:17:32.240 website when I Nancy, I'm supporting. Yeah, I think that's that. 1:17:32.560 --> 1:17:38.439 Y'all got me going, turning up right now, turning up. 1:17:48.560 --> 1:17:51.240 Remember your thought. Please. But what I've been preaching with 1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:55.720 me my partner from preaching for years is we want 1:17:55.960 --> 1:17:58.920 everything to come from our culture. The thing about it is, 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:01.960 if I could come to your podcast and I know 1:18:02.040 --> 1:18:04.240 what's gonna happen this Sunday because you're gonna be breaking 1:18:04.280 --> 1:18:07.240 it down, I don't need to actually even watch any 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:09.800 other sports show. Haver. You know the same I'm saying. 1:18:10.040 --> 1:18:12.240 If I'm gonna go look at the weather and Jim 1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:14.880 Jones is giving me the weather good? You care about 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:19.679 Andy broke off and all these I'm with Jim Jones. 1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:22.800 You don't understand what I'm saying. Like I feel like 1:18:22.960 --> 1:18:26.200 our culture and that's not a black, black white thing. 1:18:26.840 --> 1:18:29.640 I'm saying, our coaches, people that love our coaching, we 1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:32.600 should get together and really make our own Wakanda. You 1:18:32.600 --> 1:18:34.679 know what I'm I'm saying really like, I mean really 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:38.559 really like bla speak on this ahead, hold on, holding before, 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:42.559 give me Jim Jones, give me example, Jim Jones breaking 1:18:42.560 --> 1:18:45.400 out the weather, Jim Jones, the show a vote, TV 1:18:45.840 --> 1:18:51.479 calls the weather man, Jim Jones. How does he gotta 1:18:51.479 --> 1:18:54.720 give it to me? Yeah, he gave. He starts with 1:18:54.800 --> 1:18:57.160 the shoot and he gave he should give the one 1:18:57.200 --> 1:19:00.320 of them and he gave you the weekly broadcast sucking 1:19:00.720 --> 1:19:05.479 the NYC every day. And I think it's hilarious. But 1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:07.960 I think like we should really do that, Like we 1:19:08.000 --> 1:19:10.200 should really like at the end of the day, at 1:19:10.200 --> 1:19:12.720 the end of the day you spoke about earlier. I 1:19:12.720 --> 1:19:16.200 don't know what one of Jim Jones Ones is this work, um, 1:19:16.280 --> 1:19:19.080 but let's try to. Let's try. But like sat, I 1:19:19.120 --> 1:19:22.280 want SAP to do drink chap sports cover the whole 1:19:22.360 --> 1:19:25.000 sports right. And this is the thing is we keep 1:19:25.080 --> 1:19:26.920 doing things like that, we don't ever have to go 1:19:27.040 --> 1:19:30.000 outside our culture. We can we can maintain, we can 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:33.960 actually go on. Remember how remember we set the newspaper 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:35.960 because you had the funk with the New York Times, 1:19:36.120 --> 1:19:41.040 you had the funk with. But now you're going on 1:19:41.280 --> 1:19:43.439 and have an app. Why we can't have our own app? 1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:45.639 We could get everything, you know, I want to buy. 1:19:45.800 --> 1:19:49.479 I want to buy socks from our culture somebody. I 1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:52.120 don't gonna buy socks from somebody I know who's the 1:19:52.200 --> 1:19:56.120 owner is and four room. Uh you know what I mean. 1:19:56.479 --> 1:19:59.479 Ray Lewis is Southern socks Lewis, and I to let 1:19:59.479 --> 1:20:01.600 me go support ray Lewis. Like I went to a 1:20:01.640 --> 1:20:04.439 dinner the other day with a family and there was 1:20:04.479 --> 1:20:07.800 a family, a mad different family, and all of them 1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:11.519 had on Watch This by the way, right, and their 1:20:11.640 --> 1:20:15.160 obligation every month was to spend a certain amount and 1:20:15.400 --> 1:20:18.200 every one of the this is like twenty six of them, 1:20:18.360 --> 1:20:21.000 and I'm sitting there just witnessing, and they're like, yeah, like, oh, 1:20:21.040 --> 1:20:23.400 you didn't spend the twenty grand in November, Like okay, 1:20:23.439 --> 1:20:25.639 don't worry, I'm spending in February. And I'm like I'm 1:20:25.680 --> 1:20:27.439 saying bad, Like you know, if we thought like this, 1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:31.600 like all of us have businesses and I'm obligated to 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:35.439 support your business twenty grand in every two, two or 1:20:35.520 --> 1:20:37.840 three months, You're obligated to the same thing. To me, 1:20:38.200 --> 1:20:43.479 Holy shit, But take it to the next level though, Right, 1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:47.799 we create something, whether it's drink champs or a product, 1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:50.760 I just want us to think this right. A lot 1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:53.280 of times when we reach out, we like, yo, I 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:56.640 know you my people, you know, just give that to me. 1:20:57.160 --> 1:21:00.479 You guy understand like the investment in that and and 1:21:00.640 --> 1:21:03.000 and how much that we be appreciated if you actually 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:06.439 go online and you buy that, right, Like, we gotta 1:21:06.479 --> 1:21:09.080 start understanding that it's not just about post, Like, yeah, 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:11.160 we want you to post, we want you to engage, 1:21:11.400 --> 1:21:15.120 but we also need you to invest. Like what you're 1:21:15.120 --> 1:21:17.560 saying like if ray Lewis dropped some socks by the 1:21:17.680 --> 1:21:25.000 socks happened, but if you understand that, but we understand 1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:28.240 the mission of the company that and you get it 1:21:28.360 --> 1:21:30.519 because like when you turn around and you look at 1:21:30.640 --> 1:21:33.800 like the president and the president is black, right, and 1:21:33.880 --> 1:21:37.240 the president on something like you get me a platform 1:21:37.280 --> 1:21:40.479 NOMA empowered black women, Like now you understand where the 1:21:40.520 --> 1:21:42.360 money is going. It's not like, oh, this is you 1:21:42.439 --> 1:21:45.360 know Noriy, this is Brandon, this is ray Lewis, this 1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:48.799 is that person's Fred Taylor, Chandy Crowder, they got millions. 1:21:49.000 --> 1:21:50.840 It's like, what are we doing for a community? Is 1:21:50.920 --> 1:21:53.720 that if that, if that platform, if that brand is 1:21:53.720 --> 1:21:56.759 going back to the community and building up our community, 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:59.120 then we got to support that. And I think we 1:21:59.240 --> 1:22:01.880 I think we're doing a good job. I think I think, 1:22:01.920 --> 1:22:03.519 I think I think let me just tell yourself. I 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:05.240 think we're on our way. But I feel like it 1:22:05.280 --> 1:22:07.360 should be real structures. It should be real, like you 1:22:07.400 --> 1:22:10.360 know what, house of athlete, everyone's going to go up 1:22:10.360 --> 1:22:12.240 to the house of athlete on this day at this 1:22:12.600 --> 1:22:15.720 certain times what or whatever? Boom and then all right, cool, 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:18.679 you know what, t I got his new colon line dropping. 1:22:18.880 --> 1:22:21.840 We're gonna all go support tis a cool or whatever. 1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:25.920 Don't you just said drinks drink Champ Sports, drink Chat Sports. 1:22:25.960 --> 1:22:28.080 Like what we do is we say, let me go 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:31.040 create my own platform, right like you already got him. 1:22:31.280 --> 1:22:34.759 You already created the platform. So what is that professional athlete? 1:22:34.800 --> 1:22:37.200 Who is that friend that's gonna go out there and say, 1:22:37.240 --> 1:22:39.840 you know what, I'm going on drink Champ Sports. That's 1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:42.759 my platform, right, don't go create your own. You already 1:22:42.760 --> 1:22:48.040 broke through for us. That's what he said. I would 1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:55.080 to the shop of day that how do we erase 1:22:56.120 --> 1:22:59.880 four hundred years of conditioning? Though doing it right now. 1:23:00.520 --> 1:23:02.639 We're trying to. We try, you know what I'm saying. 1:23:02.640 --> 1:23:04.519 We got to start from somewhere. But we're trying. We 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:08.880 are really trying to. But we've been conditioned to have 1:23:09.040 --> 1:23:12.040 a crab in the in the barrel mentality. You know, 1:23:12.160 --> 1:23:15.000 you got guys that will go to the a rab 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:18.400 down the street, you know what I'm saying, and get 1:23:18.479 --> 1:23:22.200 a deal and be like, yo, uh just five dollars, 1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:24.320 let me get it for three. They're gonna cut the deal. 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:28.200 They're gonna come to you. They're like, no, I want 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:29.519 to get it for what it is that they want 1:23:29.520 --> 1:23:31.439 to get it for two dollars from you, you know 1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:33.360 what I'm saying. So they're not really supporting you how 1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:36.200 they need to support you. So that's the problem with 1:23:36.520 --> 1:23:40.400 our people, our culture. We try to teach them, but 1:23:41.200 --> 1:23:44.240 it's a little bit more complicated. You know what I'm saying. 1:23:44.479 --> 1:23:46.760 I love what Puff is trying to do. You know 1:23:46.800 --> 1:23:49.519 what I'm saying, I love what what what what Ross 1:23:49.640 --> 1:24:05.439 is trying to y'all do that? So we gotta show 1:24:05.560 --> 1:24:07.840 love and give love to what to do. So we 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:10.599 gotta start somewhere because not a lot of people are 1:24:10.680 --> 1:24:13.640 engaging in tune to We're trying to look out for 1:24:13.760 --> 1:24:16.000 each other because they're gonna look at you like, man, 1:24:17.560 --> 1:24:20.000 I need to get this for for six dollars. Yeah, 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:22.320 you know what I'm saying, Like, you know what you're 1:24:22.360 --> 1:24:29.240 not looking out for? You see the seller Louis. But 1:24:29.280 --> 1:24:31.760 they're not gonna go in there say that they're gonna 1:24:31.800 --> 1:24:33.720 going there with pride so they can show the next 1:24:33.840 --> 1:24:37.040 nigga that I got this. But if they're gonna have 1:24:37.240 --> 1:24:41.920 your brand, I got ner ship style speak at this 1:24:42.280 --> 1:24:45.040 thing called pharmacy or life, and I think he had 1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:49.000 it for about three years. Yesterday was the first time 1:24:49.080 --> 1:24:51.280 I got like it's the second time that I got 1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:53.400 something for freakause I never asked for free. I just 1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:55.439 just go out there and I just support it. And 1:24:55.800 --> 1:24:57.800 he always hit me when I posted. He was like, 1:24:57.880 --> 1:24:59.360 you know I was sending to you be free. I said, 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:01.080 that's not the point. The point is you got a 1:25:01.120 --> 1:25:03.720 product that I like. I like this black seat? Are you? 1:25:04.200 --> 1:25:07.200 And if I was to go to fucking G and C, 1:25:07.680 --> 1:25:10.080 I ain't going to the people and ask, but you 1:25:10.120 --> 1:25:11.920 know what you said, it's important. I think also the 1:25:12.000 --> 1:25:14.120 mission statement has to match the quality and the quality 1:25:14.160 --> 1:25:17.080 has to match. And that's how that's how you keep 1:25:17.120 --> 1:25:19.360 it moving forward. We got to do it the right way. 1:25:20.240 --> 1:25:22.560 One thing for sure. This is the reason why in 1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:26.760 hip hop like um, when you look at Ross, you 1:25:26.880 --> 1:25:30.840 look at Puff, look at e F, I'm gonna throw 1:25:30.880 --> 1:25:40.720 you in that category. When you look at that and 1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:45.599 you look at these people, we're not into watch it anyway. 1:25:46.120 --> 1:25:49.280 So if these guys are behind this product, you know 1:25:49.280 --> 1:25:51.759 what I'm saying, These people behind this product, you should 1:25:51.800 --> 1:25:53.920 know that I cool. That means that they believe in it. 1:25:54.400 --> 1:25:55.840 You know what I'm saying. So we should believe in it, 1:25:55.960 --> 1:25:57.680 you know what I mean? Because and and that's a 1:25:57.760 --> 1:25:59.960 good point. I think. I think, I think we were 1:26:00.000 --> 1:26:02.720 gonna get there eventually. But you see it goes like 1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:05.080 you're not. You didn't. You didn't hit up styles Pete. 1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:07.880 I didn't love I love Styles up this mute, but 1:26:08.439 --> 1:26:10.080 you didn't hit him up and say like, you know, 1:26:10.479 --> 1:26:12.640 send me this or I love that. You know? Can 1:26:12.720 --> 1:26:17.680 you people kept um promoting black seed oil so like 1:26:17.760 --> 1:26:20.320 it's like you're just drink black seed oil every day day. 1:26:20.640 --> 1:26:24.120 For I never once hit Stiles P. I just like 1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:26.479 this product and I did it what it was was 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:29.280 I just you know, Instagram, and I was just like, Yo, 1:26:29.439 --> 1:26:31.479 I'm out of my black seed oil, but I'm about 1:26:31.479 --> 1:26:32.840 to order that and they just sent it to me. 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:36.559 Really because I think about I think about Martell has 1:26:36.600 --> 1:26:39.640 been at you know, football player retired and he's a 1:26:39.680 --> 1:26:42.479 black author, and he dropped a book, and I just 1:26:42.640 --> 1:26:44.720 like every time you drop a book, I go and 1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:46.640 I buy, and I don't tell him I'm buying, and 1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:48.960 then I posed, and then I might buy five and 1:26:49.040 --> 1:26:52.080 pass it on to other people. But I also think 1:26:52.080 --> 1:26:54.400 about how many other football player, as soon as Martell 1:26:54.400 --> 1:26:57.080 has been a dropped a book, how many people just 1:26:57.280 --> 1:27:00.320 off the strip just say I'm buying that? All right? 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:02.800 But that but bro, but that, But that's what you're 1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:07.000 talking about. Where support support support support support? Anybody got 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:10.040 your shots? Because I'm ready, you're ready, yes, sir? Yeah, 1:27:10.040 --> 1:27:13.480 I love this ship, by the way, I love this ship. Bro. Congratulations. 1:27:16.240 --> 1:27:23.000 So how has it been working with right, because you know, 1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:27.680 yeah today yeah yeah, yeah, we're gonna call him out. 1:27:29.080 --> 1:27:32.600 But how has it been working with the overall? Because like, 1:27:33.479 --> 1:27:37.599 he's been that guy that teams have complained about. He's 1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:40.640 been the distraction that teams are complaining about So I 1:27:40.640 --> 1:27:44.120 imagine moving on in a lot of years, is that 1:27:44.760 --> 1:27:47.680 it does all right, because you know y'all like the 1:27:47.760 --> 1:27:50.519 coaches now, because you know what I'm saying, we talked 1:27:50.560 --> 1:27:52.400 about that all the time on the show. We actually 1:27:52.479 --> 1:28:01.000 had that whole distraction. Distraction. Well, yeah, that so they 1:28:01.080 --> 1:28:13.439 say that the nigga we wait too far. I know 1:28:13.640 --> 1:28:19.240 you they're kicking the ball and all the bullshit is 1:28:19.280 --> 1:28:25.439 a distraction to the organization. But it's fun to entertaining 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:31.440 to the fans. But that's don't say your bild. They 1:28:31.479 --> 1:28:33.920 didn't do that by the tickets an by the NFL network. 1:28:34.000 --> 1:28:38.160 But that's but that's the thing though to certain fans, 1:28:38.520 --> 1:28:41.360 because you have some fans that they're just old school. 1:28:41.880 --> 1:28:44.639 They're from the clubhouse, and this is what they don't 1:28:44.680 --> 1:28:47.200 want to see that ship. They want to see w's 1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:49.439 you know what I'm saying. Like, if you like, if 1:28:49.439 --> 1:28:51.880 you're hand in the business, what you want to see 1:28:52.000 --> 1:28:54.559 your profit margin is big. You want to see all 1:28:54.600 --> 1:28:57.200 the other bullshit. So when they see oh, they're like, 1:28:57.360 --> 1:29:01.560 all right, they come the the circus. Yeah, that's what 1:29:01.680 --> 1:29:04.280 they call the showIn you don't want to see that 1:29:04.520 --> 1:29:11.799 a motherfucking monkey monkey. But I'm speaking for the coaches. 1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:15.599 The coaches they don't want to service to see that either. 1:29:16.120 --> 1:29:17.840 But if they know he don't go out there ball 1:29:18.600 --> 1:29:21.479 a lot more than these other guys, they're gonna let 1:29:21.479 --> 1:29:24.479 They're gonna get fast. They're but and this is if 1:29:24.520 --> 1:29:26.879 he was here, this is what he would say the NFL, 1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:30.640 the NFL business is what er entertainment. And that's what 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:34.000 I did. I entertained, so in his mind he feels 1:29:34.000 --> 1:29:37.479 like I was the show. I took a market that 1:29:37.560 --> 1:29:41.840 nobody talked about and put a big old light on it. 1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:46.599 But here's what I would say about because prime Time 1:29:47.000 --> 1:29:48.800 was that like the first time, like we've seen that 1:29:48.960 --> 1:29:52.800 superstar superstar like this come out and be flamboyant like that, 1:29:52.960 --> 1:30:01.120 almost like a global other than Muhammad adel was. It 1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:05.360 was prompting. I would say, och Ocho took it to 1:30:05.400 --> 1:30:08.400 a whole another level. And like the the like what 1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:11.240 you see guys doing down the Juju Smiths, the Odell 1:30:11.320 --> 1:30:13.599 Beckham Jrs. Of the world, all they're doing is taking 1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:17.240 his blueprint right and it was it was Yeah, that's exactly, 1:30:18.960 --> 1:30:21.559 And this is what I would say about Ocho Um 1:30:21.640 --> 1:30:23.479 and my time with working with him, because I never 1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:27.599 understood why, like why isn't he on ESPN, Why isn't 1:30:27.600 --> 1:30:29.519 he on FS one? Why does he have that deal? 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:33.800 And I quickly realized that and learned that he wants 1:30:34.320 --> 1:30:37.320 he wants to have real conversations. Right, so when you 1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:39.400 see it's raw like you're go on ESPN and some 1:30:39.479 --> 1:30:42.040 of these shows, it's needed. It's great. You know, we 1:30:42.120 --> 1:30:44.960 get a lot of information. I'm on FS one, I'm 1:30:45.040 --> 1:30:47.840 on inside the NFL. But Ocho don't want to be 1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:49.680 talking about XS and those. He want to have that 1:30:50.680 --> 1:31:00.400 we got. What about Hey we did we good. We're 1:31:00.400 --> 1:31:05.040 talking about the Weather Channel. Listen, they didn't hear about 1:31:05.080 --> 1:31:07.599 your show. I told him, I don't watch the Weather 1:31:07.720 --> 1:31:09.800 other than if Jim Jones do the weather. If Jim 1:31:09.880 --> 1:31:11.720 Jones will do the weather, I don't watch it. I 1:31:11.880 --> 1:31:20.320 go to the vault and I watched my brother weather Man. Yeah, 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:23.080 tomorrow the second season. It's not so Friday, so you 1:31:23.120 --> 1:31:25.800 can check it out on Friday season. So the second 1:31:25.840 --> 1:31:30.800 season start tomorrow on Revote. Right, all right, dope, you 1:31:30.840 --> 1:31:34.439 Friday you can catch the Yeah, yeah, you're in the 1:31:34.479 --> 1:31:37.720 weight room. Yeah, I just met the chimp. Actually, So 1:31:37.880 --> 1:31:39.240 I'm just I was in the house, just up in 1:31:39.280 --> 1:31:42.599 the car relaxing before that's what's up? O G. Hey, 1:31:42.720 --> 1:31:45.040 we gotta tap into the Weather Channel had me on 1:31:45.200 --> 1:31:52.720 bro I want to learn respond. Yeah, he's fondest. You 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:57.960 don't want him, He's talking about her fondest way. Well, 1:31:58.040 --> 1:31:59.720 you know, I wanted to promote your show, my brother, 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:02.560 me sitting here telling them how much we're proud of you, 1:32:02.880 --> 1:32:04.680 because when I watched the Weather, I want to get 1:32:04.720 --> 1:32:07.439 it from Jim Jones. I don't want from anybody else. Brother, 1:32:09.000 --> 1:32:14.200 I love you. Take Jim ja. I love my brother. 1:32:14.600 --> 1:32:18.240 That's you. Gotta ya, Okay, I'm sorry I had to 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:23.960 do Jim Jones ship already turn out ye turn over. Well, hey, 1:32:24.240 --> 1:32:39.040 I didn't gotta put it where I was taking to 1:32:39.080 --> 1:32:41.520 make earlier when I said that you had to experience 1:32:41.600 --> 1:32:44.080 on Ever's one and inside of the NFL, and and 1:32:44.400 --> 1:32:48.120 you on five sixty and Oino been on TV and 1:32:48.200 --> 1:32:51.559 the reason I love I am athletes because Fred Taylor 1:32:51.800 --> 1:32:56.040 is smooth. Yeah, he do not as flamboyant, and I 1:32:56.120 --> 1:32:58.280 mean that in a positive way as far as camera 1:32:58.400 --> 1:33:01.639 lights and TV shows. So Fred was talking about young 1:33:01.640 --> 1:33:04.760 guns and O G. S and separating the mentorship. I said, 1:33:05.040 --> 1:33:07.840 that's it. That's that's why I thought the show was winning, 1:33:08.120 --> 1:33:10.759 because Channon is off the chain and you're a superstar 1:33:10.800 --> 1:33:14.280 at singular super stuff. But friend, beat to my heart, 1:33:14.400 --> 1:33:16.280 I would say that he needs to do hatline because 1:33:16.280 --> 1:33:19.000 he got it. He's always we're working on that. But 1:33:19.040 --> 1:33:20.559 this is what I'm same to you. That's what we're 1:33:20.600 --> 1:33:27.000 saying the same thing. Fend Fred. Fred's thing is finances, money, 1:33:27.400 --> 1:33:28.920 like he could talk to you about the stock market, 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:31.759 etceter exceter So that's why you don't see Fred etcetera, etcetera. 1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:35.439 But when we launched the first season, it was like, okay, 1:33:35.720 --> 1:33:38.240 now on the second season to start, when people talk 1:33:38.280 --> 1:33:41.519 about iron Manthley, they talk about Fred Taylor free game 1:33:41.600 --> 1:33:43.720 and they talk about this boy right here free I 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:52.679 should they talk about Yeah, two seasons, Okay, I'm nothing 1:33:52.760 --> 1:33:59.760 scripted right, No, like what was current events? You know, 1:33:59.840 --> 1:34:04.760 I'm saying, like we're talking about something that's all right 1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:07.880 and that's so funny talking about that's coming. That's that's 1:34:07.920 --> 1:34:13.479 the that can capitalize on everything. You a lick, yeah, yeah, 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:20.640 go to sleep. When he said at the beginning of 1:34:20.680 --> 1:34:25.080 show said I'm not gonna to go to sweep sometimes. Bro. Bro, 1:34:25.200 --> 1:34:30.559 we'll be shooting sometimes up story if you can. If 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:33.679 that ship can work, bro, the ship will be stupid. 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:42.160 All that ship is people have never seen. I've never bro, Bro, 1:34:44.120 --> 1:34:47.360 I'm going to sleep, do you. I don't wanna let 1:34:47.400 --> 1:34:52.400 y'all understand that this can be so dumb. Yeah, they 1:34:52.479 --> 1:34:57.120 don't like when the eggs bill when they kick in. Yeah, 1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:10.360 you sing this just say with an X men this. Yeah, 1:35:11.600 --> 1:35:14.360 I've been talking about this. This is the most at least, 1:35:14.400 --> 1:35:19.240 this is the most go that way, man, we gotta 1:35:19.240 --> 1:35:34.120 count Listen, you give me the first team in this 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:39.120 year too. Test. Everyone knows that's not only our first tape. 1:35:39.160 --> 1:35:41.680 And it's the first episode we're released in the one. 1:35:42.200 --> 1:35:44.479 We had other things and and and you know, I 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:49.040 got a beautiful call, uh from from from from Brandon. 1:35:49.439 --> 1:35:51.600 And then when I was like, man, you know what, 1:35:51.760 --> 1:35:54.080 I wanted them all. I was like, nah, man, I'll 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:57.720 do the show whenever they want and appreciate you gotta that. 1:35:57.760 --> 1:35:59.519 And I was like, you know what, let me just 1:35:59.760 --> 1:36:02.160 I just I wanted to give you out your special 1:36:03.040 --> 1:36:05.320 first show. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to. I wanted to. 1:36:05.400 --> 1:36:06.800 I was like this is perfect. Like I was like, 1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:08.840 you know what, I might be greedy by saying, let's 1:36:08.880 --> 1:36:11.600 do us first, but so let me ask you have 1:36:11.680 --> 1:36:14.280 something Tom Brady and a Tonio Brown right now, the 1:36:14.360 --> 1:36:18.560 bucking Okay, the Buckings. Did you think they're gonna do 1:36:18.640 --> 1:36:24.040 good anyway? First for me? Because all I was Brown? 1:36:25.560 --> 1:36:28.160 I was in New England for two years right, the 1:36:28.280 --> 1:36:35.040 wrong two years ship. But I mean just knowing Tom, 1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:38.439 you know, putting them with Brady. Then you got Chris Godwin, 1:36:39.040 --> 1:36:41.200 Then you got Mike Kevin's yep, you know what I'm saying. 1:36:41.200 --> 1:36:43.479 Then on the deference you got on the show, take 1:36:43.560 --> 1:36:46.000 on the show. Show you're trying to get us like 1:36:46.080 --> 1:37:00.800 Brot Channing, blank seat look ahead. That was Tampa had 1:37:00.920 --> 1:37:04.599 to makeup to to go get it done. They can't 1:37:04.640 --> 1:37:07.840 be They really can't beat Drew Brees. The offensive line 1:37:07.960 --> 1:37:10.680 is is terrible, you know what I'm saying. So I 1:37:10.720 --> 1:37:13.560 don't know what's gonna happen on on that side, but 1:37:13.680 --> 1:37:15.880 they got they got the makeup to get it done. 1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:20.800 Uh my pick from the NFC for for for the 1:37:20.880 --> 1:37:24.920 Super bowls uh, don't even page. I mean, I'm drunk, 1:37:25.600 --> 1:37:30.320 Green Bay Packers, no fu, no, st I just don't 1:37:30.400 --> 1:37:32.840 think a B and tongue can get it done. Right now, 1:37:33.439 --> 1:37:36.960 I'm gonna opposite the offensive line ain't good, and the 1:37:37.120 --> 1:37:40.160 defensive suspect I gotta I'm gonna opposite end of the spectrum. 1:37:40.160 --> 1:37:42.720 I look at that like, look, we know on the 1:37:42.840 --> 1:37:46.600 NFC you got Green Bay Top Dogs. I like Seattle, 1:37:46.920 --> 1:37:48.720 But when you think about that team that can come 1:37:48.760 --> 1:37:51.800 out of it, it's Tampa Bay. Tom Brady's on the 1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:54.680 mission right now, like I mean this, dude, he want 1:37:54.720 --> 1:37:56.519 another ring, but it ain't just like I want to 1:37:56.600 --> 1:37:58.240 dink and dunk like he trying to do it with 1:37:58.400 --> 1:38:01.360 like three and fifty yards pass sent four touchdowns. Just 1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:04.120 look at the status the last second half of the season. 1:38:04.600 --> 1:38:06.880 On the A f C side, people think about the 1:38:06.960 --> 1:38:09.400 Kansas City Chiefs and no Essay or President, She's gonna 1:38:09.439 --> 1:38:11.439 be like, oh that's her team where she's from. But 1:38:12.080 --> 1:38:14.960 the Kansas City Chiefs day nice. But the Buffalo Bills, 1:38:15.000 --> 1:38:20.040 I'm telling you right, no, Bro. So for me, I 1:38:20.120 --> 1:38:22.280 look at the Buffalo Bios and I look at the 1:38:22.360 --> 1:38:24.479 Tampa Bay Bucks as the teams that could potentially go 1:38:24.600 --> 1:38:27.200 to the Super Bowl. Tampa Bay Bugs and Buffalo bills. 1:38:27.800 --> 1:38:29.760 But you know what, but they're not throwing the ball 1:38:29.880 --> 1:38:31.760 enough to Gronk And that's why I think they're not 1:38:32.120 --> 1:38:38.720 as gronkowskis on Tampa Baby. Like Adam Sandler, he's been 1:38:38.760 --> 1:38:41.160 his crewel with him everywhere. He got everything. I'm saying 1:38:41.320 --> 1:38:44.439 the most. Ho this dude in Hollywood. I don't know 1:38:44.439 --> 1:38:51.439 if you're know no happy Gilmore? Yeah yeah, look his yard, 1:38:51.680 --> 1:38:54.679 Yeah yeah. Look Look at all the Adam Sandler's movies. 1:38:55.040 --> 1:38:57.439 It's all the same people. What does that say to you? 1:38:57.880 --> 1:39:08.720 That's that's spires, spikes, that's filling in doing it. Yeah, 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:12.240 I feel like you like dumb movies, say yeah, I 1:39:12.280 --> 1:39:14.400 love it? Yeah, yeah, so you would look at Mr 1:39:14.520 --> 1:39:20.040 Deed's Look at that movie. It's the same people in there, 1:39:20.160 --> 1:39:21.880 and you're coming a couple of coming in out, but 1:39:22.640 --> 1:39:26.000 always just day. So do you feel do you feel 1:39:26.040 --> 1:39:29.639 like he's the who take plan of comedy? Wow? He's 1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:33.240 the He's the will, He's Quat's bag. I'm sorry, which 1:39:33.840 --> 1:39:36.320 but i't go to no. I was just sad to 1:39:36.360 --> 1:39:40.040 do another shot, another shot. There ain't no way, There 1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:41.640 ain't no way y'll do that. You'll drink like that 1:39:41.720 --> 1:39:47.120 on we don't see going light right, be going going 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:52.120 going right, going like oh my goodness, harrd, I'm going 1:39:52.200 --> 1:40:00.160 with it. So so okay, everybody's up through me ice 1:40:00.240 --> 1:40:08.400 cube in my drone on San Angele the clippers. We 1:40:08.439 --> 1:40:10.599 gotta get essay a goods out here. We got let's 1:40:10.640 --> 1:40:13.040 get it what we got? Hold on a little tip? Right? 1:40:14.120 --> 1:40:20.840 What was the what's the white guy who dogs? Don't 1:40:20.880 --> 1:40:23.559 still got Cort saying some crazy ship by his girlfriend. 1:40:23.600 --> 1:40:27.120 She dropped dime modem. Yeah, yeah, and he kept working 1:40:27.160 --> 1:40:36.439 her too. He kept something. But have you ever experienced, 1:40:36.439 --> 1:40:39.559 because that's one of the biggest things is black coaches 1:40:40.080 --> 1:40:43.200 in the NFL, Like we got my homeboy from Pittsburgh 1:40:43.600 --> 1:40:46.360 coach Tomlin and then they fired him. No, no, no, 1:40:46.439 --> 1:40:49.920 they kept Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin been good good, that's 1:40:49.960 --> 1:40:51.640 the only one, right, No, no, no, we got So 1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:54.640 here's the thing when you talk about black coaches, the 1:40:54.760 --> 1:40:58.360 Rooney Rule was put in place for minority coaches to 1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:03.439 get an opportunity, right you fast forward what twenty thirty 1:41:03.520 --> 1:41:08.880 years later? The Rooney rule, basically the Runal rule basically 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:12.840 says that when uh, when organization has the opportunity to 1:41:12.960 --> 1:41:17.320 hire general manager or head coach, they have to interview 1:41:17.680 --> 1:41:22.040 a couple minority coaches. Okay, so here's so what you 1:41:22.160 --> 1:41:25.760 see is they'll bring in black coaches and it's really 1:41:25.880 --> 1:41:30.759 not a real interview. They're just trying to eat the quota. 1:41:31.120 --> 1:41:33.960 So you forward to where we're at now and today. 1:41:34.240 --> 1:41:37.240 We went into this year, this season season with four 1:41:37.320 --> 1:41:40.640 black coaches and I believe to black general managers. So 1:41:40.800 --> 1:41:45.360 now the NFL lad by Troy Vincent, black guy, is 1:41:46.000 --> 1:41:49.519 playing more things in place to try to incentivize coaches, 1:41:50.240 --> 1:41:54.120 I mean teams and organizations to actually develop and hire 1:41:54.560 --> 1:41:58.760 minority coaches, general managers and and also coordinators. So so 1:41:58.960 --> 1:42:01.479 to your point when you talking about black coaches, this 1:42:01.680 --> 1:42:04.479 is actually a hot topic in sports, not just football 1:42:04.520 --> 1:42:07.960 but also basketball because you got James Harden and the 1:42:08.040 --> 1:42:11.240 other show all the smoke or boards. You know what 1:42:11.360 --> 1:42:14.559 the Stephen Jackson say about James hard You got a coach, 1:42:15.080 --> 1:42:17.840 you got a black coach there, and you instead of 1:42:17.920 --> 1:42:20.960 you stay in there and trying to you know, help 1:42:21.080 --> 1:42:24.400 him actually launched his career and get it done, you're 1:42:24.439 --> 1:42:26.640 trying to run. So like I mean, that was a 1:42:26.680 --> 1:42:29.160 whole another discussion, but that's how that conversation is happening, 1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:35.479 and in the NBA and also the NFL. Wow, baseball 1:42:35.560 --> 1:42:38.120 is an interesting sport man, Like you know, even when 1:42:38.160 --> 1:42:40.920 you think about like when every guy when when it 1:42:41.000 --> 1:42:46.240 got when you know, the pandemic um global pandemic and 1:42:46.320 --> 1:42:49.680 then all of a sudden, George Floyd, that happens now 1:42:49.800 --> 1:42:54.599 racial tension, staring and now who we throw in the forefront? Athletes, 1:42:54.760 --> 1:42:57.720 entertainers lead us. What y'all gonna do all right now? 1:42:57.960 --> 1:42:59.960 Is an athlete? What you're gonna do, You're gonna play, 1:43:00.320 --> 1:43:02.559 You're not going to told Lebron to shut up and dribble. 1:43:02.800 --> 1:43:05.160 But then when the vaccine came, they said, didn't take 1:43:05.160 --> 1:43:09.920 the vaccine? Why he ain't shut up and dribble? It's 1:43:09.960 --> 1:43:15.639 annoys to me. Yeah, I don't even know that. Yeah listen, 1:43:15.760 --> 1:43:17.960 So remember remember Lebron was saying I'm more than an 1:43:18.000 --> 1:43:23.880 athlete whatever whatever, and there was there was a person 1:43:23.920 --> 1:43:27.800 that said shut up and dribble and on Fox, Yeah 1:43:27.840 --> 1:43:29.280 I don't want to. I don't want to blow them off, 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:33.840 and so but yeah, I don't want to say I'm 1:43:33.880 --> 1:43:39.840 on the sad. They said shut up and dribble, and 1:43:40.120 --> 1:43:41.880 Lebron said I'm more than an athlete. But when this 1:43:42.040 --> 1:43:45.360 vaccine came out, that was the first athlete that they 1:43:45.439 --> 1:43:49.360 actually publicly, you know, put the broadcast. They said, Lebron, 1:43:49.680 --> 1:43:53.080 would you be our hero and take the vaccine? And 1:43:53.240 --> 1:43:55.479 I couldn't think of a better thing to say, No, 1:43:55.640 --> 1:43:59.200 I'm just shutting up in dribblin. Oh that would have 1:43:59.240 --> 1:44:01.880 been like that's they told him to do, like not see. 1:44:01.920 --> 1:44:12.000 But that's the biggest thing. Though I killed that, but 1:44:13.680 --> 1:44:16.280 that's the thing they're trying to put him on the spot. 1:44:16.960 --> 1:44:20.680 You know, Like a couple probably about a month month 1:44:20.680 --> 1:44:24.439 and a half ago, I think the l A County 1:44:24.560 --> 1:44:30.040 Sheriff came out and said, Lebron, you're not uh telling 1:44:30.080 --> 1:44:35.200 your people to not come out here in protests. He 1:44:35.640 --> 1:44:39.439 can't beat that voice, because bron Ce Brun is probably 1:44:39.520 --> 1:44:42.120 one of the biggest things that have come in terms 1:44:42.160 --> 1:44:44.760 of goats. He's probably one of the big next to 1:44:44.880 --> 1:44:50.840 Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan. I know we was drinking 1:44:50.840 --> 1:44:55.000 Michael Jordan's to killer earlier, but let's just be clear, yea, 1:44:58.040 --> 1:45:15.040 the whole thing so taking Jordan's So let me just 1:45:15.120 --> 1:45:17.200 say something like a lot of these kids, you know, 1:45:17.280 --> 1:45:19.800 they wear the Jordan's. Actually I'm forty three years old. 1:45:19.840 --> 1:45:22.560 I actually got to see these games, actually got to 1:45:23.000 --> 1:45:26.439 or whatever. But I've never seen my Jordan take a 1:45:26.520 --> 1:45:29.760 play you forty three forty three? Cong on, bro, Yeah, 1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:32.800 I knew. I'm listening to your fucking music, like like 1:45:33.160 --> 1:45:37.240 you're the motherfucker. I'm like, like legit, you know, I 1:45:37.360 --> 1:45:51.320 don't know what legit is, but I'm taking you about 1:45:51.320 --> 1:46:03.200 three years on three. I'm forty. He's done what I'm saying, 1:46:03.439 --> 1:46:09.800 duck me up. I was generation so he can't hurt 1:46:09.840 --> 1:46:14.160 him do a political view and you know what back then, 1:46:14.840 --> 1:46:18.960 but nowadays it's like you can't act like you don't 1:46:18.960 --> 1:46:20.960 know what's going on. Like back then you just said, 1:46:20.960 --> 1:46:24.639 you know, I turn Mohammed Ali did it before him. Yeah, 1:46:25.040 --> 1:46:29.680 but he was different. He did, but he did nothing less. 1:46:29.680 --> 1:46:32.559 Don't said Jordan's at the time. With Jordan, Jordan could say, 1:46:33.040 --> 1:46:36.280 you know what, I didn't really know what's going on 1:46:36.479 --> 1:46:40.479 and I wasn't. Yeah, he could say that bron is 1:46:40.560 --> 1:46:45.280 at an era where he can't say that. Not only 1:46:45.400 --> 1:46:48.760 that he's stepping up to the occasion. Does that make 1:46:48.880 --> 1:46:53.960 him a better athlete? You better person? I don't think 1:46:54.680 --> 1:46:58.360 pet profession. You know what. Overall, and this is just me, 1:46:59.840 --> 1:47:03.160 I'm gonna say, I think Brunn is a better athlete. 1:47:04.640 --> 1:47:10.479 We talked about be careful. You know, there's an argument 1:47:11.240 --> 1:47:14.479 think about athlete. Though Mike did what he did, Mike 1:47:14.560 --> 1:47:19.040 played too hard, right, Mike was a small forward, small 1:47:19.160 --> 1:47:31.600 small forward Washington number. You know what I'm saying. The 1:47:31.720 --> 1:47:35.760 only thing come out of Washington is probably some some 1:47:36.040 --> 1:47:40.200 some bullet tens you know what I'm saying, some rare 1:47:40.360 --> 1:47:47.559 tens or ship. But it right. So Broun had done 1:47:47.640 --> 1:47:52.360 more for the culture. We're talking about athleticism. Bron can 1:47:52.400 --> 1:47:55.920 play every position. Mike, Mike can't play center. You know 1:47:55.960 --> 1:47:59.160 what I'm saying. Mike ain't gonna run the four Bronna 1:47:59.200 --> 1:48:02.960 run one, two, three, four and five, and he's gonna 1:48:03.000 --> 1:48:06.080 talk whatever the fucking coach I need from it. I 1:48:06.120 --> 1:48:08.160 would like to be des advocate right now. That's what. 1:48:09.200 --> 1:48:11.760 Let me just say something that this is the people 1:48:11.880 --> 1:48:14.400 that you know, when you look at lebron legacy and 1:48:14.479 --> 1:48:16.519 you look at people who's next to lebron legacy, and 1:48:16.560 --> 1:48:19.040 you look at people who next to Jordan's legacy, there's 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:28.880 something called killer instant and they said, Jordan's Kobe Killer. Like, 1:48:28.960 --> 1:48:31.240 I'll tell you how much I know Kobe didn't have 1:48:31.400 --> 1:48:37.519 killer instant. I've seen Kobe like well thirty one o'clock 1:48:37.840 --> 1:48:42.240 in the morning and Mr childs and I bust your ass. 1:48:44.000 --> 1:48:45.920 And you know what Kobe did? He thought about it. 1:48:46.160 --> 1:48:48.400 He said, I'm gonna like he thought about playing me 1:48:48.479 --> 1:48:50.280 in Queen's Bridge. I'm from that fact. I'm not from 1:48:50.320 --> 1:48:53.479 Queen's Bridge, but Mr child on seven Street, the next 1:48:53.640 --> 1:48:55.800 bridge over. So I said, yo, we go to Queensbridge 1:48:55.840 --> 1:49:01.280 right now, you know what I mean? He he thought 1:49:01.360 --> 1:49:03.800 about it. He was like really, He's like, you think 1:49:03.800 --> 1:49:10.599 you could beat me? North? He that's the killer because 1:49:10.640 --> 1:49:17.000 first of all, he supposed to laugh. And I'm telling 1:49:17.000 --> 1:49:21.640 you that do you understand you understand the analogy of 1:49:21.720 --> 1:49:24.599 the killer instinct? And do you think that has that all? 1:49:24.800 --> 1:49:28.599 You know? Sometimes I looked at Broun six eight two fifty, 1:49:29.880 --> 1:49:32.280 you know, and I don't understand. We want to shoot 1:49:32.280 --> 1:49:34.920 the fifteen for the you know what I'm saying, I'm like, damn, 1:49:35.040 --> 1:49:38.640 run take it to the rack when but he's not 1:49:38.880 --> 1:49:41.559 the best free throw shooter, you know what I'm saying, 1:49:41.600 --> 1:49:44.720 and clutch he's not that, but at the end of 1:49:44.800 --> 1:49:51.719 the day, he's he's made it a lot more clutch 1:49:51.880 --> 1:49:55.880 shots than we give him credit for. Like Brown, is 1:49:55.920 --> 1:49:57.519 that dude? Yeah, But I don't think that was I 1:49:57.560 --> 1:49:59.439 don't think that was the question. It was. More so 1:50:00.160 --> 1:50:05.439 it's like, in those defining moments, why didn't he pull 1:50:05.520 --> 1:50:09.280 the trigger? Why did he defer? Because I don't but 1:50:09.560 --> 1:50:13.080 I see on your on the ground, uh, speaking about 1:50:13.120 --> 1:50:15.760 Colin Kaepernick. Sorry to get deep, but we're gonna go there. 1:50:16.520 --> 1:50:18.800 And one thing you said, you said something you said, 1:50:19.160 --> 1:50:21.960 you know, I was thinking about my family. Yeah, I 1:50:22.080 --> 1:50:24.559 was thinking about my children. I was thinking about my mom, 1:50:24.680 --> 1:50:28.519 your parents, and back in two sixteen. So you didn't nail. 1:50:29.120 --> 1:50:32.240 But then you started it off and you said, man, 1:50:33.479 --> 1:50:39.240 what I would have nail. So I mean, let me 1:50:39.320 --> 1:50:42.640 tell you why, because especially you and you understand is 1:50:42.720 --> 1:50:45.720 you get this right. So when Cat first took his 1:50:45.800 --> 1:50:50.000 knee in two thousand and sixteen, two thousand sixteen, and 1:50:50.120 --> 1:50:52.800 what he was speaking on, we already was hit to 1:50:53.880 --> 1:50:56.680 his brutality, police brutality, but he was also speaking on 1:50:56.800 --> 1:51:02.680 other things as well, just like correct but specifically that 1:51:03.880 --> 1:51:07.000 we we I grew up in that and and this 1:51:07.160 --> 1:51:11.559 is the same part is we're trained to think that's okay. Right, 1:51:11.800 --> 1:51:14.360 So when Cat was first talking about it, it's like 1:51:14.439 --> 1:51:16.760 we built these callalysis. Then we're not training to think 1:51:16.800 --> 1:51:19.200 it's okay. We trained and think that that's normal, that 1:51:19.400 --> 1:51:24.240 police mutality. Correct but not not it's okay, thanks for correcting, 1:51:24.680 --> 1:51:26.280 you know what I'm saying. So when Cat did that, 1:51:26.479 --> 1:51:28.720 I was like, like, we've been on that. We know that, 1:51:29.040 --> 1:51:31.439 Like this ain't no big deal, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:51:31.520 --> 1:51:33.760 why why are we not? We We've been We've been 1:51:33.800 --> 1:51:37.000 dealing with that. So for me, it was less about 1:51:37.400 --> 1:51:39.840 taking a knee, and it was more so about like 1:51:40.520 --> 1:51:43.080 what's the next steps? You know what I'm saying. So 1:51:43.200 --> 1:51:46.240 now you're saying two thousand sixty and this is the 1:51:46.280 --> 1:51:49.360 difference between the NFL and the NBA. Made you regret 1:51:49.560 --> 1:51:53.880 not taking this step, It's because I felt like it 1:51:54.000 --> 1:51:56.200 got worse. It got worse after no no, no, no no. 1:51:56.400 --> 1:51:58.880 I felt like that was a moment, right Like now 1:51:59.439 --> 1:52:01.360 it's kind of like what you said, Like you know 1:52:01.400 --> 1:52:05.160 what you said. It's like Michael Jordan compared to Lebron James, 1:52:05.240 --> 1:52:09.040 like today you have to have a viewpoint if you're 1:52:09.040 --> 1:52:11.240 a company, if you're a person, where do you stand? 1:52:12.040 --> 1:52:14.360 You know, blackout Monday whatever we call that, if you 1:52:14.400 --> 1:52:17.439 ain't blocking out people on following you, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 1:52:17.520 --> 1:52:19.720 So you gotta have a viewpoint. I feel like it's 1:52:19.800 --> 1:52:22.439 easy to talk about black lives matter now. I feel 1:52:22.439 --> 1:52:23.920 like it's easy to take a knee. I feel like 1:52:23.960 --> 1:52:26.240 it's easy to put on a shirt to say, uh, 1:52:27.040 --> 1:52:29.799 you know this person, that person. That's easy. Two thousand 1:52:29.800 --> 1:52:32.479 and sixteen it was hard. So for me, it's like 1:52:33.000 --> 1:52:35.320 you got a brother sitting there talking about what he's 1:52:35.320 --> 1:52:37.719 talking about why we didn't come together in the National 1:52:37.760 --> 1:52:40.000 Football League, And it was the same thing in the NFL, 1:52:40.320 --> 1:52:42.880 like we were divided, we didn't come together, and I 1:52:43.080 --> 1:52:45.720 and I'm gonna come back to the entertainment business because 1:52:45.760 --> 1:52:47.960 I felt some type of way. But like then you 1:52:48.080 --> 1:52:50.160 go to that, you shift from two thousand and sixteen 1:52:50.280 --> 1:52:52.880 NFL guys not taking a knee. Then you go to 1:52:52.960 --> 1:52:54.640 the NBA, It's like, what are y'all gonna do? What 1:52:54.720 --> 1:52:56.439 they did is they all put on a black shirt 1:52:56.560 --> 1:52:58.640 or something saying what they said and they moved on. 1:52:59.320 --> 1:53:01.160 They were on the ain't page I respect that, but 1:53:01.240 --> 1:53:03.600 it wasn't like no movement, right. I felt like it 1:53:03.720 --> 1:53:07.960 was that was an easy way out. But let me 1:53:08.000 --> 1:53:10.000 have yeah, let me tell you the other thing I 1:53:10.080 --> 1:53:12.160 felt like because in two thousand and six, and you 1:53:12.280 --> 1:53:14.960 gotta understand when I was walking in the locker, when 1:53:15.000 --> 1:53:16.640 I walk, when we walk in the locker room and 1:53:16.760 --> 1:53:20.799 practice after practice, we're talking after practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 1:53:21.120 --> 1:53:23.519 we got forty cameras in their face. I'm sitting here 1:53:23.560 --> 1:53:26.320 with my tad on. There's forty cameras in my face 1:53:26.479 --> 1:53:28.479 every day. The Brandon we're going to at this point 1:53:28.640 --> 1:53:31.600 just bloggers, ESPN, NFL never every single day. So we 1:53:31.680 --> 1:53:34.439 got to answer these questions, and we got entertainers and 1:53:34.479 --> 1:53:36.559 we got other people talking about y'all need to take 1:53:36.560 --> 1:53:38.000 a knee, y'all need to take anee. And I'm looking 1:53:38.000 --> 1:53:39.720 at it like when you did your concert, did you 1:53:39.840 --> 1:53:42.960 take your knee? Or and you running this company, why 1:53:43.040 --> 1:53:45.320 you ain't taking knee? So that's what I was conflict 1:53:45.400 --> 1:53:47.800 conflicted with was and they don't just need to put 1:53:47.840 --> 1:53:50.080 the pressure on the athlete. That's not our just our 1:53:50.120 --> 1:53:52.880 sole responsibility to carry this load, you know what I mean. 1:53:52.960 --> 1:53:54.519 So that's what I that's where I was at in 1:53:54.560 --> 1:53:56.920 two thousand and sixteen. But I wish what we would 1:53:56.920 --> 1:53:59.639 have done in retrospect is that we would have came together. 1:54:00.000 --> 1:54:02.960 But the NFL, at times it's too divided amongst the players, 1:54:03.880 --> 1:54:06.400 Like like if you call a person to hang out, 1:54:06.439 --> 1:54:09.760 they're thinking that you're being like competitive? Is that something 1:54:09.800 --> 1:54:11.720 like that? Like let's what was like, No, it's just 1:54:11.840 --> 1:54:14.599 more so like we were, so it's what we talked about, 1:54:14.600 --> 1:54:18.479 supporting each other, etceteraly we so we think about you know, 1:54:18.640 --> 1:54:23.439 our ourselves, our brands, our companies, our businesses, and even 1:54:23.479 --> 1:54:25.640 when it comes to this moment, you know, instead of 1:54:25.760 --> 1:54:28.880 us coming together and saying, you know, let's all take 1:54:28.880 --> 1:54:31.920 a knee together, let's all do this together, we don't 1:54:31.960 --> 1:54:33.960 think about that. We think about like, Okay, well I 1:54:34.000 --> 1:54:36.240 got this deal with Nike, I got this deal with 1:54:36.360 --> 1:54:39.200 Beats about dre you know, I got this you know, 1:54:39.280 --> 1:54:43.120 so with instead of collectively understanding what we talked about 1:54:43.120 --> 1:54:45.760 earlier in the show, the power that we have if 1:54:45.840 --> 1:54:49.120 we come together, like you like, um, I imagine um 1:54:49.280 --> 1:54:53.360 you know Drew Brees, Drew Brees has something really really 1:54:53.440 --> 1:54:55.520 like he was like I don't understand why people are 1:54:55.600 --> 1:54:57.520 just specting the flag, and that's not what Colin did. 1:54:57.560 --> 1:55:04.040 Is disting with backing though. What happens if you hear 1:55:04.080 --> 1:55:06.960 a teammates say a comment like Drew Brees, how is 1:55:07.000 --> 1:55:09.800 that locker room after that? Like it depends on the situation, 1:55:10.240 --> 1:55:12.520 like Drew Brees, It's okay to feel how you feel. 1:55:12.880 --> 1:55:16.680 There's nothing wrong with what he said. But no, no, no, no, no, 1:55:16.720 --> 1:55:18.600 no no mean no no, it's nothing wrong with he's 1:55:18.640 --> 1:55:20.600 saying because when he said was very honorable, right, like 1:55:20.680 --> 1:55:24.040 your your grandfather served, and we get that. We unders 1:55:24.480 --> 1:55:27.120 but that's not the conversation, right right, you know what 1:55:27.120 --> 1:55:29.080 I'm saying, It's about the timing. We're not talking about 1:55:29.120 --> 1:55:32.640 the flag. I'm never talking about the flag. He was 1:55:32.680 --> 1:55:35.360 never talking about it. So what happens is when you start, 1:55:35.760 --> 1:55:38.360 when you start pushing the conversation to the flag, you're 1:55:38.440 --> 1:55:41.240 now taking away that what we're talking about the priority, 1:55:41.440 --> 1:55:45.640 and that's black lives matter. That's flag exactly. And that's 1:55:45.640 --> 1:55:48.000 what the NFL did in two thousand and six. Team, 1:55:48.160 --> 1:55:50.320 that's what so many other people did in two talking 1:55:50.320 --> 1:55:52.120 about the flag. That's not what counting the Kaepernick said 1:55:52.480 --> 1:55:55.680 he took a knee because out of respect for the flag, right, 1:55:55.680 --> 1:55:57.880 because he sat there with someone that served and said, 1:55:58.080 --> 1:56:00.080 what do I do because it's not about the like, 1:56:00.160 --> 1:56:02.640 I'm not trying to disrespect the people, the men and 1:56:02.680 --> 1:56:06.160 women who served, right, So he said, it's like just 1:56:06.200 --> 1:56:08.880 taking knee instead of sitting down. He's taking knee, And 1:56:08.960 --> 1:56:11.320 then what do we do? Everybody talking about the flag. 1:56:11.720 --> 1:56:14.120 It's never about the flax. So now were four years later, 1:56:14.400 --> 1:56:17.600 George Floyd, Brianna Taylor, all these people lose their lives 1:56:17.960 --> 1:56:20.040 and now Drew Brees, you go and you're talking about 1:56:20.040 --> 1:56:23.839 the flag again. No, you had Malcolm. You have Malcolm 1:56:24.200 --> 1:56:27.440 Malcolm Jenkins his teammate crying. You're talking about Drew Brees 1:56:27.480 --> 1:56:30.200 on your teammate and I lost all respect for you. 1:56:30.720 --> 1:56:39.480 That's when he apologized. But what do you think no 1:56:39.600 --> 1:56:52.960 more because y'all see it's coming out apologize. How did 1:56:53.040 --> 1:56:56.320 how did that go across? Was it too late? The 1:56:56.480 --> 1:57:02.000 thing is everybody can trying to right this Roger, the commissions. 1:57:02.720 --> 1:57:05.960 Everybody's trying button up. I think he realized, you know, 1:57:06.200 --> 1:57:10.160 in the midst of of everything that we in the 1:57:10.240 --> 1:57:12.400 midst of everything that was going on, right, we can 1:57:12.440 --> 1:57:15.200 bring back. I think it makes more sense that we 1:57:15.240 --> 1:57:17.200 can hold it that he went in the direction that 1:57:17.280 --> 1:57:30.120 he went because she came from the NFL about because 1:57:30.160 --> 1:57:32.080 it made sense to me when he when he found 1:57:32.080 --> 1:57:34.520 out that it was already a movement and the big 1:57:34.600 --> 1:57:36.680 celebrity came over as far as let's say, Jay Z 1:57:37.200 --> 1:57:39.040 and a lot of people were already conducting a lot 1:57:39.080 --> 1:57:41.880 of conversations around the whole situation. Then he was able 1:57:41.920 --> 1:57:48.440 to say, we should have listened. But you can always 1:57:48.520 --> 1:57:50.480 go back and say that, right, you know what I'm saying. 1:57:50.520 --> 1:57:53.600 But it's it's easier to button up and be politically 1:57:53.760 --> 1:57:56.720 correct than to run out there and stand on your 1:57:56.760 --> 1:57:59.120 own shoulders and your own two feet. That's what Cap 1:57:59.240 --> 1:58:01.920 did when everybody Nobody thought it was sexy when they 1:58:02.000 --> 1:58:04.920 did it. You know what I'm saying. We got behind Cap, 1:58:05.600 --> 1:58:08.800 but everybody was like, that's and they still try to 1:58:08.880 --> 1:58:13.160 deflect what the real picture was. It was never about 1:58:13.240 --> 1:58:16.840 the flag. They still run that bullshit to this day. 1:58:17.000 --> 1:58:20.040 The last day they're right now then then the Capital 1:58:20.160 --> 1:58:24.240 doing the stupid ship right now, and they're gonna blame 1:58:24.320 --> 1:58:26.040 it on that, you know what I'm saying. But it 1:58:26.120 --> 1:58:33.400 ain't never been about it. It's never been about And 1:58:33.520 --> 1:58:35.360 if you want to go further, you know, you got 1:58:35.480 --> 1:58:37.840 people in position that they will come back and say, 1:58:38.120 --> 1:58:43.640 all right, veterans. You know they disrespect veterans. I'd rather 1:58:43.760 --> 1:58:49.280 for you disrespect disrespect a piece of material then disrespect 1:58:49.320 --> 1:58:52.520 that the actual people that went out there and fought 1:58:52.640 --> 1:58:56.280 for their fucking lives and for our freedoms. So on 1:58:56.440 --> 1:58:59.320 one end you got the presidents and oh, you're disrespecting 1:59:00.800 --> 1:59:05.120 a piece of materials immed. But on the other end, 1:59:05.720 --> 1:59:09.840 he's saying, you know what these cowards like, why the 1:59:09.960 --> 1:59:11.960 fund did they go out here and defend this country? 1:59:12.160 --> 1:59:22.760 They're stupid at their grave sites and he wouldn't go. Well, 1:59:22.800 --> 1:59:25.280 the reason why she's important to this conversation because in 1:59:25.320 --> 1:59:27.800 two thousand and sixteen she was actually at the League office. 1:59:28.120 --> 1:59:31.160 So essays President of House of Athlete. We're partners, she's 1:59:31.200 --> 1:59:34.360 my co founder, and uh she has an interesting not 1:59:34.440 --> 1:59:38.440 an interesting perspective, but she has a powerful perspective. And 1:59:38.520 --> 1:59:41.080 not only because of two thousand sixteen. But think about this, 1:59:41.880 --> 1:59:46.080 when did the second, the second move the second, the 1:59:46.120 --> 1:59:50.480 second movement of the civil rights? Uh, the second started 1:59:50.520 --> 1:59:55.640 with yeah, the second Movement of the Civil Rights era? 1:59:55.880 --> 2:00:00.760 What was what was that? Trayvon Martin was two and 2:00:00.880 --> 2:00:03.880 she was right there with the family. Okay, okay, and 2:00:03.960 --> 2:00:10.400 you had the call when yes, you worked for the NFL. Yes, 2:00:10.520 --> 2:00:12.640 So after law school, I went to work for the 2:00:13.000 --> 2:00:14.840 NFL films and then I went to the NFL League 2:00:14.840 --> 2:00:18.200 Office and did legal there for four seasons. Wow. See, 2:00:18.240 --> 2:00:20.960 And this is this is very like great because people 2:00:21.360 --> 2:00:24.040 say not the only they don't hire black, but now 2:00:24.320 --> 2:00:26.840 they definitely don't hire a black woman. So you're a 2:00:26.960 --> 2:00:30.880 person who was employed. Yes, Well, the league office is 2:00:30.920 --> 2:00:33.600 definitely in a better position when it comes to diversity 2:00:33.680 --> 2:00:36.720 than the teams. I would say, Um, so there's a 2:00:36.800 --> 2:00:38.880 lot of black people that work in the league office. 2:00:38.880 --> 2:00:41.320 There definitely can be more in leadership. I mean we 2:00:41.400 --> 2:00:44.520 really only see Troy Vincent and a few others. Um. 2:00:45.200 --> 2:00:47.280 But yes, I was there during the time and it 2:00:47.440 --> 2:00:51.160 was really interesting just being in the office and nobody 2:00:51.320 --> 2:00:53.440 is talking to us at work and we're seeing kaepern 2:00:53.520 --> 2:00:55.880 McNeil people. You go the other cook out and your 2:00:55.960 --> 2:00:57.960 cousins is like, oh, you would sellout you work for 2:00:58.000 --> 2:01:01.520 the NFL. And it's like so we're literally Emily Office, like, 2:01:01.640 --> 2:01:04.800 please tell us that we're not black balling, you know, 2:01:04.920 --> 2:01:07.600 Kylin Kaepernick, because we obviously don't want to be sellouts. 2:01:07.680 --> 2:01:09.680 But we also understand the other side of it too, 2:01:10.080 --> 2:01:12.120 and there's always, you know, three sides of the story, 2:01:12.360 --> 2:01:16.400 as they say, Um, but yeah, it was interesting. So 2:01:16.520 --> 2:01:18.800 let me ask you something because this is something that 2:01:18.960 --> 2:01:22.720 I hear. Um. I forget what radio host it is 2:01:22.880 --> 2:01:26.320 what they say. I think it's Stephen A. Smith. Stephen A. 2:01:26.440 --> 2:01:31.480 Smith says, you know, Karlin Kaepernick's position is a wonderful position, 2:01:31.560 --> 2:01:35.680 but he has to explain it. And that's something that like, like, 2:01:35.920 --> 2:01:38.560 he has never really did. I'm sure I wish you 2:01:38.800 --> 2:01:46.960 did drink, Chaps, but I might not platform. That's something 2:01:47.040 --> 2:01:49.280 that was a problem is because he was kneeling, but 2:01:49.360 --> 2:01:52.240 he wasn't really being articulate. He was saying, it's four 2:01:52.280 --> 2:01:55.920 police brutality, but he wasn't out there like campaigning it 2:01:56.320 --> 2:01:59.919 like interviews. I think it definitely made it more complex 2:02:00.320 --> 2:02:03.200 because people wanted to hear from him and more of 2:02:03.240 --> 2:02:06.040 an interview format. But I also think when he was 2:02:06.440 --> 2:02:09.800 answering questions in the locker room that season, everything that 2:02:09.920 --> 2:02:14.720 he said was twisted and taking the wrong way so exactly, 2:02:14.760 --> 2:02:16.480 like you know, and then he wore the socks with 2:02:16.600 --> 2:02:19.280 the pig cop on it. So I think a few 2:02:19.360 --> 2:02:22.600 of those things happened. And whether it was him or 2:02:22.720 --> 2:02:24.880 his management team, I think he's read by w and me. 2:02:25.560 --> 2:02:29.000 They probably were like we just like silence, like because 2:02:29.080 --> 2:02:31.760 everything you say is going to be twisted. And then 2:02:31.840 --> 2:02:35.520 I think it became about the it became about veterans, 2:02:35.560 --> 2:02:38.080 and it became about the troops when it has nothing 2:02:38.160 --> 2:02:40.320 to do with that. But you know, that's just so 2:02:40.440 --> 2:02:42.760 that's a war you cannot win. And the NFL is 2:02:42.840 --> 2:02:45.400 so entrenched with the military, Like you go to games, 2:02:45.480 --> 2:02:49.520 there's tanks over. It's so entrenched with it. You know, 2:02:49.600 --> 2:02:52.400 there was you know, there's a there's an actual contractual 2:02:52.480 --> 2:02:56.520 partnership with the with the military, so in a good way, right, 2:02:56.600 --> 2:02:58.280 Like we want to we want to show love to 2:02:58.360 --> 2:03:01.360 the people serving our country. So when someone says you're 2:03:01.360 --> 2:03:03.960 anti troops like that, that's just not a conversation you're 2:03:04.040 --> 2:03:06.120 going to win. Let me ask you, some sister, what 2:03:06.360 --> 2:03:09.280 was it as your position? Um? So, yeah, I was 2:03:09.800 --> 2:03:12.600 contract coordinator. So I was in the legal department at 2:03:12.680 --> 2:03:14.520 the at the league office. So I did all of 2:03:14.600 --> 2:03:18.120 the business contracts where it was sponsorships or consumer products, 2:03:18.520 --> 2:03:21.920 working on Super Bowl contracts, the entertainment for Super Bowl. 2:03:22.040 --> 2:03:25.040 So but I also started our Black Engagement Network, So 2:03:25.200 --> 2:03:28.400 I basically corralled all the black employees and gave us 2:03:28.400 --> 2:03:31.360 a safe space to talk. But then we also challenged 2:03:31.400 --> 2:03:33.879 the NFL and wanted to work with the NFL leadership 2:03:34.720 --> 2:03:37.080 to help them be better to the black community, right like, 2:03:37.120 --> 2:03:39.080 we're like, look, we work for you guys, we love 2:03:39.120 --> 2:03:42.960 the NFL. Somebody and the NFL for get well. I 2:03:43.040 --> 2:03:47.560 think it was talked about it. It might be more yeah, 2:03:47.720 --> 2:03:57.240 it's over black and minority. Were there the sec to 2:03:57.280 --> 2:03:59.840 where you were telling them, um, you know, I think 2:04:00.720 --> 2:04:03.560 it was an interesting time and that they weren't under 2:04:03.640 --> 2:04:06.840 so much scrutiny. They certainly were not prepared. They were 2:04:06.880 --> 2:04:10.000 called yeah, like they were like okay, cap, Cap is kneeling. 2:04:10.520 --> 2:04:13.000 But once it became about the flag and about the military, 2:04:13.240 --> 2:04:16.240 and again they're so intrenched with the military, it's such 2:04:16.280 --> 2:04:18.600 a part of the NFL brand. I really don't think 2:04:18.640 --> 2:04:20.320 that they knew what to do, and they didn't have, 2:04:21.000 --> 2:04:23.560 you know, all the right voices in the room. And 2:04:23.640 --> 2:04:25.400 I think the few voices that were in the room. 2:04:26.040 --> 2:04:28.080 Do you think they saw it as a PR nightmare 2:04:28.200 --> 2:04:31.520 or was it a culture issue for them? It absolutely 2:04:31.560 --> 2:04:34.880 started as a PR nightmare. I don't think that they 2:04:35.360 --> 2:04:38.280 and I don't think the NFL has ever considered themselves 2:04:38.440 --> 2:04:41.200 as an organization that had to speak on these issues, 2:04:41.720 --> 2:04:44.200 like they always like, look, we're sports, like, we don't 2:04:44.240 --> 2:04:49.720 have to get into the nitty But that was the 2:04:49.840 --> 2:04:52.440 first time that the country and the fan base said, 2:04:52.480 --> 2:04:54.480 I actually do want to know what you think about 2:04:54.520 --> 2:04:56.520 these issues, like I do care if you think black 2:04:56.560 --> 2:05:00.480 lives matter? How important is it for Cabinet and uh 2:05:01.080 --> 2:05:04.360 A Dvornai to be doing that documentary? I think it's huge. 2:05:04.400 --> 2:05:06.800 I mean, I think everybody wants to hear from cat right, 2:05:06.880 --> 2:05:10.800 like everyone wants to hear from him a different name 2:05:12.040 --> 2:05:15.400 name he did? Now they see us? What did it 2:05:15.560 --> 2:05:19.960 when you see us? So? What are they doing though 2:05:19.960 --> 2:05:24.920 they're doing a documentary? I mean n him right, um, 2:05:25.280 --> 2:05:27.440 And I mean he has a lot of content and 2:05:27.480 --> 2:05:30.160 then um, you know, in the works, and that's where 2:05:30.200 --> 2:05:32.160 he really seems to be focusing a lot of just 2:05:32.240 --> 2:05:36.560 feel like I feel like I was I was all 2:05:36.800 --> 2:05:39.720 I'm all with Cat. I just wanted him to explain 2:05:39.880 --> 2:05:43.440 a lot of people. And I think I've got a 2:05:43.480 --> 2:05:45.200 lot of people like that. Yeah, I'm not with Stephen 2:05:45.400 --> 2:05:47.160 and a lot of things. And he's from Queens and 2:05:47.200 --> 2:05:49.840 I really respect him. But it's just, you know, it's 2:05:49.880 --> 2:05:52.200 just okay. It's it's okay to disagree. I don't have 2:05:52.320 --> 2:05:53.840 no beef for him, Like I see him up be like, 2:05:53.880 --> 2:05:56.120 what's up? Broke? Yeah, And I don't know if he's 2:05:57.360 --> 2:06:00.920 he's happened to somebody like that than Queens though, like 2:06:01.000 --> 2:06:04.440 when they like legit, I don't know. Let me leave 2:06:04.520 --> 2:06:08.160 that alone, you know, Like I feel like us is 2:06:08.240 --> 2:06:10.760 different for me, but I don't feel like he's trying 2:06:10.800 --> 2:06:12.720 to be. But what I'm saying is when he did 2:06:12.800 --> 2:06:15.760 say that about Cap, he said, he said, my only 2:06:15.880 --> 2:06:18.600 thing is I want a cap to talk like I 2:06:18.680 --> 2:06:25.520 wanted to talk and and and everything. Yeah, because you're 2:06:25.640 --> 2:06:28.040 you're the face of a movement, and and like you 2:06:28.200 --> 2:06:32.320 started this conversation. So when you start this movement, right, 2:06:32.400 --> 2:06:34.320 like where is the leader at? And that's where a 2:06:34.360 --> 2:06:37.160 lot of the NFL guys struck. He was the leader. 2:06:37.160 --> 2:06:41.280 But that's something movement, like someone do something symbolic not 2:06:41.480 --> 2:06:43.880 knowing that they would have to speak on that. Yeah, 2:06:43.880 --> 2:06:45.480 I don't think. I don't think cap knew was going 2:06:45.520 --> 2:06:47.600 to turn into this and it'll be this big. But 2:06:48.200 --> 2:06:51.240 you are like right now and that's it. It's like, 2:06:51.320 --> 2:06:53.720 oh my goodness, like this dude. At the end of 2:06:53.760 --> 2:06:55.120 the day, we're gonna look at it. Is like when 2:06:55.120 --> 2:07:01.160 we think about the civil rights movements. Literally he's in 2:07:01.200 --> 2:07:06.480 the museum for he literally indecent enshrined the hair, like 2:07:06.600 --> 2:07:09.400 he's a part of history already. I just think that 2:07:09.960 --> 2:07:12.840 his strategy was let the people speak for me what 2:07:13.000 --> 2:07:16.240 they did till this day. The people are speaking for 2:07:16.400 --> 2:07:18.680 cat and that's that's the strategy. May not agree with it, 2:07:18.800 --> 2:07:22.040 but that's a strategy. Or did the settlement check for 2:07:22.040 --> 2:07:32.400 a little bit? And not only that? I remember, remember 2:07:32.520 --> 2:07:37.040 I remember, um, all of us black people want Nike 2:07:37.200 --> 2:07:42.160 made a deal with him, Yeah Nike. We all went 2:07:42.320 --> 2:07:46.240 and research. Everyone was like your Nike. And then there 2:07:46.320 --> 2:07:48.000 was an ad to say, you know, guess what, like 2:07:48.160 --> 2:07:54.600 he also supports the other side, but what big corporation doesn't. 2:07:55.600 --> 2:08:04.360 Yeah when when when that night he commercial came out 2:08:04.480 --> 2:08:07.920 and they sent a message over political injustice and it 2:08:07.960 --> 2:08:11.160 sent the message over what's going on today? And then 2:08:11.240 --> 2:08:14.520 at the end they put CAP's face. He had nothing 2:08:14.560 --> 2:08:17.800 to do with the commercial order message that you send 2:08:17.840 --> 2:08:20.760 a message out on we're gonna be understanding and we're 2:08:20.800 --> 2:08:23.480 gonna support Cat. But it was just his face on 2:08:23.560 --> 2:08:25.960 a commercial. And then the next day the stocks went 2:08:26.040 --> 2:08:28.560 up because everybody said not get with him. Yeah, but 2:08:28.640 --> 2:08:33.840 it was right right you your You gotta treat you 2:08:35.000 --> 2:08:39.640 like wrangular gas a little corner. That's no, no, not 2:08:39.760 --> 2:08:44.280 that's not your that's not you're my friend and me 2:08:44.440 --> 2:09:03.480 and your family. That's okay, man. But I really, I 2:09:03.720 --> 2:09:07.200 really when I when I when I watched football, I 2:09:07.320 --> 2:09:11.720 really thought the only thing that made me start thinking 2:09:11.880 --> 2:09:16.360 like there's discrepancies that happened in football was things like 2:09:16.480 --> 2:09:19.760 ball is any given Sunday and things like that, because 2:09:20.320 --> 2:09:24.360 I never really cared about what happened do you get 2:09:24.400 --> 2:09:27.600 to the finish line. I didn't care what happened in 2:09:27.640 --> 2:09:30.120 between the finish line, as long as you got to 2:09:30.160 --> 2:09:34.240 the finish line. And that's fucking so terrible of me 2:09:34.320 --> 2:09:37.400 as a fan. As a fan, I should be just 2:09:37.560 --> 2:09:41.760 as indulged and involved. And when we hear stories like this, 2:09:43.040 --> 2:09:47.440 the journey of you know, I tell you, I tell 2:09:47.560 --> 2:09:49.320 you know how much science you dropped today? And you 2:09:49.400 --> 2:09:53.880 said how much a player has expand from three to 2:09:54.000 --> 2:09:59.400 four years. And there's some kid right now that's listening 2:09:59.440 --> 2:10:01.120 to this and say, well, I'm gonna kill it in 2:10:01.320 --> 2:10:06.760 that three or four years. All right. But but the 2:10:06.840 --> 2:10:09.800 thing about what this kid is saying is twenty one 2:10:09.840 --> 2:10:12.360 when you come in to the NFL, y'all start rapping 2:10:12.800 --> 2:10:15.600 seventeen sixteen. You know what I'm saying? When week in 2:10:15.640 --> 2:10:19.480 the NFL you twenty one, one, three or four years, 2:10:20.360 --> 2:10:23.640 that's the life expectancy. You're twenty five for a lot 2:10:23.640 --> 2:10:27.120 of these guys where they come from. Five. What the 2:10:27.200 --> 2:10:31.760 fund you're gonna do at twenty six through forty? But 2:10:31.840 --> 2:10:37.200 that's average lifespan of American citizens like sixty four or 2:10:37.280 --> 2:10:39.440 sixty five years old when you retire, you see the 2:10:39.480 --> 2:10:45.760 three what are you gonna do? From the black man 2:10:45.800 --> 2:10:53.960 for open locking? Thirty five? Because you're a pressures, you're 2:10:53.960 --> 2:10:57.560 from Phocky, you're about twenty. You're that pressure for real. 2:10:57.760 --> 2:11:00.320 They're not sucking around. So what you're gonna through from 2:11:01.480 --> 2:11:06.720 five to fifty, that's half, that's a whole another plus 2:11:07.200 --> 2:11:09.960 times too. You know what I'm saying. So when you're 2:11:10.000 --> 2:11:12.920 in the NFL, when you're in that window, we come 2:11:12.960 --> 2:11:15.840 in there saying, right, I just don't get paid. We're 2:11:15.880 --> 2:11:20.360 not thinking business unless you That's what I'm saying. Unless 2:11:20.360 --> 2:11:22.760 you this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, no, 2:11:22.880 --> 2:11:25.560 what is that? I don't know what that if you're white. 2:11:37.160 --> 2:11:39.320 But we don't come from that culture. We don't come 2:11:39.360 --> 2:11:42.760 from the background where people know about life insurance. You 2:11:42.800 --> 2:11:44.920 know what I'm saying. They don't know how to monetize that. 2:11:45.520 --> 2:11:48.600 We don't come from where you gotta be button up 2:11:49.000 --> 2:11:51.520 and uh, this is a real structure. So you just 2:11:51.600 --> 2:11:53.880 dropped the gym and you went too fast for monetizing 2:11:53.920 --> 2:11:58.600 life insurance. That's a that's a that's that's yeah. Yeah, 2:12:02.800 --> 2:12:07.760 we're in America. The oldest business in America's banking. The 2:12:07.920 --> 2:12:11.920 next oldest business is insurance. Isn't the oldest business prostitution. 2:12:13.200 --> 2:12:18.440 It's teaching, Yeah, it's teaching, teaching, you know, but but 2:12:18.640 --> 2:12:23.120 this is the problem. Teachers don't make enough money. Absolutely, 2:12:23.160 --> 2:12:27.160 and nobody think about teaching, and they don't getting they 2:12:27.240 --> 2:12:29.560 wanted right now. They want it right now. So let's 2:12:29.560 --> 2:12:33.600 talk about banking. But more importantly, let's talk about insurance 2:12:33.720 --> 2:12:37.840 is the biggest fucking pyramids. You're gonna pay insurance your 2:12:37.840 --> 2:12:40.880 whole life. You might not have to never use that ship. 2:12:41.280 --> 2:12:48.360 But guess who get rich the insurance company. So we're 2:12:48.360 --> 2:12:50.840 gonna figure out how we get paid. So life insurance. 2:12:51.400 --> 2:12:54.839 We never been put on that game. You got a homeboy, 2:12:55.640 --> 2:12:59.000 you you probably got not you are you like for 2:12:59.320 --> 2:13:03.200 for for at them. But let's say your health bad 2:13:03.280 --> 2:13:07.080 as a motherfucker, right, you can have a homeboy who's 2:13:07.120 --> 2:13:09.680 an evaluator who's gonna come in and see what type 2:13:09.720 --> 2:13:11.840 of help you qualify for it. He can you a 2:13:12.040 --> 2:13:18.000 plus one on one the top health you know, uh premium, 2:13:18.520 --> 2:13:21.000 the lord's premium, but the top health that you can 2:13:21.080 --> 2:13:26.840 qualify for that scam or no used to scamum great health. 2:13:27.640 --> 2:13:31.000 You might be a one low premium. You can get 2:13:31.040 --> 2:13:33.920 a five million dollar policy. You can die tomorrow. Oh no, 2:13:34.520 --> 2:13:37.400 my bad. You can die yesterday because the insurance they 2:13:37.480 --> 2:13:40.960 say you can die yesterday, not tomorrow. They don't want 2:13:40.960 --> 2:13:44.200 to jink you. But you canna die yesterday. Your policy 2:13:44.280 --> 2:13:47.240 might be five million. Guess who's gonna be the beneficiaries 2:13:47.280 --> 2:13:50.920 of that? You might be paying ten thousand dollars a year. 2:13:51.880 --> 2:13:54.080 But in order to get a five minute dollar policy, 2:13:54.880 --> 2:13:57.200 you got a million dollars in debt. They pay your 2:13:57.280 --> 2:14:00.400 debt off. You got a five million dollar policy. Your 2:14:00.520 --> 2:14:05.800 kids they get four million in their banks in the bank. Yeah, 2:14:06.240 --> 2:14:08.760 the white people have been doing that ship for centuries. 2:14:09.320 --> 2:14:14.960 Black folks don't know ship about that, about it now 2:14:15.040 --> 2:14:17.400 because I like, it's not it's not it's not like 2:14:17.880 --> 2:14:19.600 it's not a bad thing. It's not it's not like 2:14:20.280 --> 2:14:27.040 it's not a bad business. Yeah, yet understand that, know 2:14:27.160 --> 2:14:30.320 how it affects you. But think about stop being stop 2:14:30.440 --> 2:14:33.840 thinking so day to day generational Like that's what we got, 2:14:33.880 --> 2:14:37.000 generational wealth. So when am I leaving to my kids kids? 2:14:37.320 --> 2:14:40.480 So I feel like I can leave my kids how 2:14:40.600 --> 2:14:42.840 much money? And then what are they gonna do with that? 2:14:43.240 --> 2:14:44.960 But but also the thing is we got to add 2:14:44.960 --> 2:14:47.880 a conversation with our kids about like this is why daddy, 2:14:47.960 --> 2:14:50.880 this is why mommy making these moves right, So like 2:14:50.960 --> 2:14:53.640 why like you know, they pull up to our property. 2:14:54.320 --> 2:14:56.080 My kids are five years old, they can say this's 2:14:56.080 --> 2:14:59.200 a commercial realists, commercial real estate, it's investment property. They 2:14:59.320 --> 2:15:02.000 understand at the age of two and three, I'm talking 2:15:02.040 --> 2:15:04.800 to my kids and I'm like, here's your fund, like 2:15:05.600 --> 2:15:08.800 every every quarter. I'm talking to my financial advisors, right, 2:15:09.120 --> 2:15:11.080 and they're talking to me about my portfolio. We got 2:15:11.160 --> 2:15:13.360 stock in here. We're playing the loan game there. You know, 2:15:13.440 --> 2:15:16.480 we got this mutual bun. We got this bomb and 2:15:16.600 --> 2:15:20.680 then also we got our our our state planning in place. 2:15:21.040 --> 2:15:24.720 So my kids is straight. My wife people that don't 2:15:24.760 --> 2:15:28.240 correct to think about this. So at that at the 2:15:28.320 --> 2:15:30.800 age of two, I'm sitting in Dumbo. I'm in New 2:15:30.880 --> 2:15:34.760 York playing for the Jets, and I remember I remember saying, 2:15:34.840 --> 2:15:37.800 that's fun. And I said, like they I know they too. 2:15:38.360 --> 2:15:40.480 They can barely damn talk. They don't have a full 2:15:40.560 --> 2:15:45.040 vote like the fast right. So I'm sitting down. I'm like, 2:15:45.040 --> 2:15:47.920 I'm gonna start this conversation now. I'm like my financial 2:15:47.960 --> 2:15:50.160 virless had explained to them, don't tell me tell them 2:15:50.200 --> 2:15:53.200 about their money, because then they're five and they can 2:15:53.280 --> 2:15:56.040 tell you that daddy. You know, my son told me 2:15:56.120 --> 2:15:58.480 the other day, he said, Daddy don't want a car. 2:15:59.640 --> 2:16:03.160 He just turn six December seventeen, Z three. Marshal. He said, 2:16:03.200 --> 2:16:04.680 they don't want a car, and he got like these 2:16:04.720 --> 2:16:07.360 little four wheelers. I said, okay, what other four whitherers? 2:16:07.360 --> 2:16:09.600 You want something? He said, don't want a real car. 2:16:09.960 --> 2:16:12.240 He's someone Lamborghini. I said, okay, we're gonna set up 2:16:12.240 --> 2:16:14.400 a business and I'm gonna teach you how to get 2:16:14.440 --> 2:16:16.320 that and by the age of twelve, you're gonna have 2:16:16.360 --> 2:16:18.600 that Lamborghini. Okay, and then we're gonna buy the one 2:16:18.640 --> 2:16:27.160 that appreciate so and that's when we an't what they said, right, 2:16:27.760 --> 2:16:31.720 all right, hope, Hope is God and in the culture 2:16:31.840 --> 2:16:48.480 right Tom Brady and Ship, he didn't get there just 2:16:48.680 --> 2:16:51.800 by being who you had people you know in this 2:16:52.000 --> 2:16:54.800 pipeline that say, all right, this is how you know, 2:16:55.000 --> 2:16:57.360 this is how you structure your ship. This is how 2:16:57.400 --> 2:16:59.440 you get to where you want to be. We have 2:16:59.600 --> 2:17:02.920 people in pipeline, but those relationships that you gotta take 2:17:03.320 --> 2:17:06.360 hold of and manifest, right, because we don't always know. 2:17:07.000 --> 2:17:09.760 I ain't know ship about life insurance. But that's a play, 2:17:10.320 --> 2:17:11.560 you know what I'm saying. At the end of the day. 2:17:11.800 --> 2:17:15.600 And if you got those relationships, because I firmly believe 2:17:15.920 --> 2:17:20.200 that life is I need per cent when you know 2:17:20.240 --> 2:17:22.760 what you get to this point that you can't go further. 2:17:23.200 --> 2:17:26.000 The relationship that you're holding you keep, it's gonna take 2:17:26.040 --> 2:17:28.879 you first networking, You don't you don't have the same 2:17:28.920 --> 2:17:30.840 people around you though, like you think about it, the 2:17:30.920 --> 2:17:33.680 white the white player, they have an uncle that's a lawyer, 2:17:34.000 --> 2:17:41.560 another uncle that they have an unclottle father that played 2:17:41.680 --> 2:17:46.560 in the sport before them. But they have they have 2:17:46.720 --> 2:17:50.440 a parent, a father, a grandfather that played in the 2:17:50.520 --> 2:17:55.440 sport before that, my father White people. Yeah, but but 2:17:55.720 --> 2:17:59.920 but but this ship is so deep, but it goes 2:18:00.120 --> 2:18:03.120 was back so so much further. Like I mean, they 2:18:03.320 --> 2:18:06.160 we were taught in condition to think a certain way. 2:18:17.160 --> 2:18:22.560 But but but but like everything is come, it comes 2:18:22.600 --> 2:18:26.080 back to relationships. Right, So if you had people in 2:18:26.200 --> 2:18:29.000 position to teach you and show you, all right, I 2:18:29.160 --> 2:18:31.520 like you, I'm gonna show you how to get it. 2:18:32.040 --> 2:18:35.720 Your job is to show the next one next get it. 2:18:35.800 --> 2:18:38.360 You know what I'm saying. But we don't always do that. 2:18:38.560 --> 2:18:41.280 We don't take advantage that. So in terms of just 2:18:41.400 --> 2:18:44.880 going back to life insurance, right, you smell you, you 2:18:45.200 --> 2:18:48.480 pay a small premium, you go in three million dollar 2:18:48.520 --> 2:18:54.840 whole life policy. It might cost you on an annual basis, No, no, no, 2:18:57.120 --> 2:19:02.440 twelve bingo for for some companies happen in the sex. 2:19:02.879 --> 2:19:08.000 Some some companies you can going off yourself like we 2:19:08.200 --> 2:19:11.840 were cool. Right. No, no, no, no, I'm just telling 2:19:11.840 --> 2:19:14.480 you what we're just talking about. No, Mo'm gonna tell 2:19:14.480 --> 2:19:17.800 you we type men you I can be. I can 2:19:17.840 --> 2:19:21.959 work for the insurance company as a as a examiner. 2:19:22.840 --> 2:19:25.160 I'm coming to you. I know you're health fucked up. 2:19:25.320 --> 2:19:27.200 You you you out of here in the month. I 2:19:27.320 --> 2:19:37.040 just think it right here, right, but you got to go. 2:19:37.240 --> 2:19:40.200 But I can come to see. I can come to you. 2:19:40.400 --> 2:19:47.119 You know you got thirty days left this weeks. Keep 2:19:47.120 --> 2:19:56.720 it up here. I got thirty days, you got thirty day. 2:19:56.800 --> 2:19:58.400 I can come to you and get a one prefer 2:19:59.000 --> 2:20:13.520 come ahead thirty days like you gotta go. I'm gonna say, girl, 2:20:13.640 --> 2:20:18.320 I'm right now. I'm gonna ten thousand a month. Ten 2:20:18.360 --> 2:20:21.640 thousand a year is your premium. Girl. But for that 2:20:21.800 --> 2:20:25.200 ten grand, I'm gonna give five mill if Earl got 2:20:25.600 --> 2:20:28.640 a million dollars in debt. But I'm gonna give Earl 2:20:28.760 --> 2:20:33.800 five mill right when he when he expired, Earl funked up. 2:20:34.240 --> 2:20:37.360 I'm not supposed to give Earl the preferential to one 2:20:37.440 --> 2:20:40.880 credit but you in. But we're cool. You know what 2:20:40.879 --> 2:20:49.720 I'm saying. Insurance is a scam because we got a relationship. 2:20:49.879 --> 2:20:51.760 Understand the game. You know what I'm saying, it's the game. 2:20:52.240 --> 2:20:55.480 So a Earl, your your health. You bad been You've 2:20:55.480 --> 2:20:58.560 been die in thirty days, Earl. But I'm gonna give 2:20:58.600 --> 2:21:01.560 you Top one, which is the cheapest premium. You gotta 2:21:01.640 --> 2:21:05.720 pay ten bands. You play the ten bands, you get 2:21:05.760 --> 2:21:09.280 five million insurance. Right, you got a million dollars debt. 2:21:09.640 --> 2:21:12.920 When you die, guess what your family get five meal 2:21:13.080 --> 2:21:17.000 minus the meal you're not. Your people get four million dollars. 2:21:17.200 --> 2:21:18.680 But that has to be ran or is that like 2:21:18.760 --> 2:21:22.640 part of the will or that that's what we're talking about. 2:21:24.280 --> 2:21:26.760 Think about the people don't know that you gotta think 2:21:26.760 --> 2:21:30.600 about to catch it down. We think about Look, we 2:21:30.760 --> 2:21:33.760 got this amount of time, three or four years to 2:21:33.800 --> 2:21:36.520 make our money. We got to be conservative. So when 2:21:36.560 --> 2:21:38.680 I think about the stock market, I'm not going in 2:21:38.720 --> 2:21:42.440 the stock market thinking about Neo is the number one 2:21:42.480 --> 2:21:45.000 stock more and my neighbor told me at the beginning 2:21:45.040 --> 2:21:49.200 of pandemic, invest in Neo. It's an electric car over 2:21:49.280 --> 2:21:54.120 an Asia somewhere doing this number one. But we can't 2:21:54.320 --> 2:21:57.280 you know why I didn't make that investment, Because no, 2:21:57.400 --> 2:21:59.200 it's not because I don't trust him. I trust him 2:21:59.200 --> 2:22:00.760 because he lived next to me and he got a 2:22:00.920 --> 2:22:03.320 big old house. He's good, good, he's been doing it 2:22:03.400 --> 2:22:05.680 for fifty years. The reason why I do it because 2:22:05.720 --> 2:22:08.720 they tell us, as at professional athletes, you gotta play 2:22:08.760 --> 2:22:10.800 the loan game in the stock mark because if you 2:22:10.840 --> 2:22:14.200 study the stock market over ten twenty years, don't matter 2:22:14.320 --> 2:22:16.800 what happens, you ride that wave out because this is 2:22:16.879 --> 2:22:20.879 the curve right. So so when you're sitting down as 2:22:20.920 --> 2:22:23.680 a professional athlete, we're taught, you know, like, look, we 2:22:23.760 --> 2:22:27.720 gotta be conservative. So they present to us the insurance 2:22:27.800 --> 2:22:30.560 like the you know, the life, the life, the life 2:22:30.600 --> 2:22:33.240 insurance policies, and they sell you that this is an 2:22:33.320 --> 2:22:36.360 investment vehicle. It's not really about when you die because 2:22:36.440 --> 2:22:38.640 we don't really need to I don't need to have 2:22:38.800 --> 2:22:43.080 life insurance because I got thirty forty million cash in 2:22:43.200 --> 2:22:45.240 the bank that I can get to right now, or 2:22:45.280 --> 2:22:46.879 in the market I can get I can make liquid 2:22:47.040 --> 2:22:51.280 right now, but life insurance. So the goal is the 2:22:51.400 --> 2:23:00.560 goal isn't that? But it doesn't matter what you at. 2:23:00.760 --> 2:23:04.560 The more shots you at you know what I'm saying, 2:23:04.600 --> 2:23:10.000 Like you might not get you might not get ten million, 2:23:10.160 --> 2:23:12.200 but you can maybe ever leave your your family. For me, 2:23:12.400 --> 2:23:15.520 my grandmother got life insurance on you know, a policy, 2:23:15.879 --> 2:23:18.000 and if she passed right now, there's a million dollars 2:23:18.120 --> 2:23:20.199 right there. And guess what, there's a there's a there's 2:23:20.240 --> 2:23:23.600 a uh, there's something. I'm not gonna go out there 2:23:24.959 --> 2:23:28.960 as well that they do that intentionally, like, look, I 2:23:29.120 --> 2:23:31.320 have life insurance and this is gonna go back to 2:23:31.400 --> 2:23:34.080 the family, and this is how we create generational wealth. 2:23:34.280 --> 2:23:37.400 But but what we sunk up at is what b 2:23:37.640 --> 2:23:41.680 was saying, all right, you a lot of rappers are 2:23:41.680 --> 2:23:48.400 gonna they're gonna go I got my shot. I'm gonn 2:23:48.440 --> 2:23:56.640 let you get away with that. You know is double 2:23:56.680 --> 2:24:06.280 every time you let me take my lifestyle. Yeah, every 2:24:06.320 --> 2:24:11.400 show that we got to do right now, but I finished. 2:24:12.879 --> 2:24:16.040 Let me get back to my point, right, A lot 2:24:16.120 --> 2:24:19.080 of a lot of rappers out there that's going to 2:24:19.200 --> 2:24:23.959 go and get the two d fifty dollar Uh watch 2:24:24.879 --> 2:24:28.240 what not? The paddock? The paddock? You know what I'm saying, 2:24:28.360 --> 2:24:37.040 what was that? So instead of doing that, let's just 2:24:37.120 --> 2:24:42.800 say they're taking ten thousand a year that's the two watch. 2:24:42.879 --> 2:24:45.680 They're taking ten thousand a year on life insurance and 2:24:46.000 --> 2:24:48.640 putting in a life insurance. They're gonna get a policy 2:24:48.760 --> 2:24:52.880 that so three meals they get. You know, and now 2:24:52.959 --> 2:24:56.040 you're in the you in the position where your lifestyle 2:24:56.240 --> 2:25:00.280 it's in a fortunate situation, but your lifestyle resting piece 2:25:00.320 --> 2:25:02.560 of king Vugh. You know what I'm saying. When you 2:25:02.720 --> 2:25:05.720 live that type of you know that that action. You 2:25:05.800 --> 2:25:08.800 know what I'm saying. You gotta protect your life. You're 2:25:08.800 --> 2:25:11.000 gonna look out for your people when you're alive. You said, 2:25:11.000 --> 2:25:13.040 I want to look out for my people, But you 2:25:13.120 --> 2:25:16.960 gotta understand generational wealth. I wouldn't look at my for 2:25:17.080 --> 2:25:19.280 my people when I'm out of here. My man just 2:25:19.400 --> 2:25:22.000 gonna look out for him. Life insurance gonna look out 2:25:22.000 --> 2:25:24.160 for him. If you're gonna go off on the ten 2:25:24.520 --> 2:25:28.160 two fifty dollar watch, that's twenty five years at ten 2:25:28.200 --> 2:25:31.080 thousand dollars a year premium. How many times? But we 2:25:31.200 --> 2:25:33.080 don't know that I can be getting we we we 2:25:33.280 --> 2:25:37.440 we we don't know that. If you're in't debt. If 2:25:37.480 --> 2:25:40.480 you werein't debt, you got three million dollar life insurance 2:25:40.520 --> 2:25:45.880 policy you and that a million dollars you die, right, 2:25:46.440 --> 2:25:49.240 the policy is gonna take care of your debt. Now 2:25:49.280 --> 2:25:51.960 you've got one point five million to get to your 2:25:52.040 --> 2:25:55.040 jets as the beneficiary. But they don't teach us that 2:25:55.200 --> 2:25:57.520 I don't know that ship because I know, I know 2:25:57.600 --> 2:25:59.680 a lot of people don't have Jones said. We had 2:26:00.040 --> 2:26:03.119 Jones on earlier. You know, um, he said that being 2:26:03.200 --> 2:26:06.680 a rapper it's the most dangerous job in America. They 2:26:06.720 --> 2:26:10.080 all agree, you know what, you know what the reason 2:26:10.160 --> 2:26:14.600 why it seems like today the reason why I agree 2:26:15.040 --> 2:26:17.880 this is why I agree this. This is this is 2:26:17.959 --> 2:26:23.840 why I agree. You look at perception, you look at 2:26:23.879 --> 2:26:28.200 the music. You know, people can't differentiate between entertainment in 2:26:28.320 --> 2:26:32.000 real life and reality. You got people following Jim Jones, 2:26:32.080 --> 2:26:36.480 that's gonna say, all right, he talked about uh, we 2:26:36.600 --> 2:26:41.400 know whatever you're talking about, gangster bricks, whatever it might be. 2:26:42.720 --> 2:26:44.800 You got a lot of young boys that's following him 2:26:44.879 --> 2:26:50.120 that that love the culture. Right, they can't differate, differentiate 2:26:50.240 --> 2:26:52.440 between the two. They might go out there and try 2:26:52.480 --> 2:26:54.600 to run bricks, but they might go out there and 2:26:54.640 --> 2:26:57.280 try to keep the three six five and the hill. 2:26:57.560 --> 2:26:59.760 You know what I'm saying. So they can't. They can't 2:26:59.760 --> 2:27:01.440 figure hear it out. Hold on, they can't. They can't 2:27:01.440 --> 2:27:09.120 figure that out. So that's the best gun on the 2:27:09.240 --> 2:27:13.800 market already. So but they can't deferate between the two. 2:27:14.480 --> 2:27:17.640 So who who's leading them? You know what I'm saying. 2:27:18.080 --> 2:27:20.840 So at the end of the day, the reason that 2:27:20.959 --> 2:27:23.920 becomes dangerous because you've got real gangsters out there that 2:27:24.040 --> 2:27:27.000 think this nigga who're talking about it, running around with it. 2:27:27.560 --> 2:27:30.400 So when we when we meet up, I gotta get 2:27:30.440 --> 2:27:33.160 a jump on you. So you gotta keep your head up. 2:27:34.000 --> 2:27:39.040 And that's a I think it's like a tugger ward 2:27:39.040 --> 2:27:40.959 a lot of tension in the rap game right now, 2:27:41.360 --> 2:27:43.480 because what I look at is like the o g 2:27:43.720 --> 2:27:47.000 s in the game right and I'm gonna start with Hove, 2:27:47.200 --> 2:27:48.920 but we all know who Hove is. But you can 2:27:48.959 --> 2:27:51.640 see how Rick Ross is moving down even to change 2:27:52.080 --> 2:27:55.560 you fat Joe, showing that when the game is over, 2:27:56.000 --> 2:27:59.400 you can go get a bigger bag creating content I 2:27:59.680 --> 2:28:03.960 shoose podcast, right. But then there's this generation now where's 2:28:04.000 --> 2:28:06.960 kind of like we're going backwards where they like, you know, 2:28:09.360 --> 2:28:14.920 uh being affiliated, you know, talking about shooting and killing 2:28:15.120 --> 2:28:17.560 like y'all took the whole game to a whole another level, 2:28:17.840 --> 2:28:20.200 like this is where he was, but now we're mature. 2:28:20.280 --> 2:28:22.720 We got exposed to this. I've been through this. I 2:28:23.240 --> 2:28:25.880 was at Death Jam Earth said this to me. I 2:28:25.959 --> 2:28:29.120 didn't understanding at this point. Now four years and six 2:28:29.240 --> 2:28:31.560 years and ten years and I traveled the word you said, 2:28:31.920 --> 2:28:35.800 dudes the doorf Germany. Correct, dude, the door Germany. A 2:28:35.840 --> 2:28:39.879 lot of people don't understand that you traveled the world exposed, 2:28:40.000 --> 2:28:45.720 and you always say this exposure equals expansion. So you're 2:28:45.800 --> 2:28:48.039 coming back and get shilling the game, like yeah, that's 2:28:48.080 --> 2:28:50.920 what we was talking about, but think it's different now. 2:28:51.520 --> 2:28:53.120 But so now you've got these o g s on 2:28:53.240 --> 2:28:55.360 this side talking about, like let me go buy a 2:28:55.440 --> 2:28:58.080 title because we're talking about streaming, and then like let's 2:28:58.120 --> 2:29:01.959 be let's own. You're talking about, let me create drink 2:29:02.160 --> 2:29:04.880 Drink Champs, and then I can I can franchise this 2:29:05.040 --> 2:29:08.320 the same way they franchise see inside of Miami cs 2:29:08.560 --> 2:29:14.360 Cside Vegas. So now we're gonna go to Drink Smoke Champs. 2:29:14.720 --> 2:29:23.080 Let's pick up to Um yeah yeah yeah he Didduce, 2:29:25.480 --> 2:29:29.560 and let's also pick up Drink Champ boys front of 2:29:29.600 --> 2:29:32.200 Social media chan sports, and we didn't spend it. We're 2:29:32.240 --> 2:29:36.400 doing that. We're doing that not looking We're trying to 2:29:36.440 --> 2:29:39.080 get warrants at the host drink chap sports. We don't 2:29:39.080 --> 2:29:42.440 think I want to do it about that. So now 2:29:42.520 --> 2:29:44.640 you got like he teaching us the game. Like even 2:29:44.720 --> 2:29:47.200 when when he called me, he said, yo, you know, 2:29:47.360 --> 2:29:49.320 let's you want to come to the show, etcetera, etcetera. 2:29:49.560 --> 2:29:51.240 And I'm talking about what I'm doing. I'm like, look, 2:29:51.280 --> 2:29:53.080 I'm really learning this right now. He's like, all right, 2:29:53.120 --> 2:29:55.320 I got you. Boom boom boom boom boom. I said, 2:29:55.360 --> 2:29:58.720 what like that? He said, yeah, he teaching me the game. Right. 2:29:59.000 --> 2:30:01.160 So but now you got to other young rappers on 2:30:01.400 --> 2:30:03.840 on the other side, and they're talking about they think 2:30:03.920 --> 2:30:08.160 that's the thing, you know, selling drugs, killing whatever, right, Like, 2:30:08.240 --> 2:30:10.360 if that's your lifestyle you live, we all come from 2:30:10.400 --> 2:30:14.720 those places. But you just brought up something something so 2:30:15.000 --> 2:30:18.960 so beautiful just right now. It is because a lot 2:30:19.000 --> 2:30:21.560 of people they don't want to bridge the gap, right. 2:30:21.879 --> 2:30:24.000 I want to ask you. I want to ask you 2:30:24.160 --> 2:30:28.440 because me personally, I know that there's a lot of 2:30:28.560 --> 2:30:31.360 young brothers I want to talk to. They're gonna have 2:30:31.560 --> 2:30:34.600 those three four years in the league the same way, 2:30:35.879 --> 2:30:38.800 and they're gonna be gone. But some of them are 2:30:38.959 --> 2:30:44.320 so arrogant. I don't want to waste my time because 2:30:45.320 --> 2:30:52.560 I remember when I was there. But that's why I 2:30:52.640 --> 2:30:55.720 gotta keep, you know, jury on, I gotta keep all 2:30:55.800 --> 2:31:00.360 the gotta keep so they know, like nigga, I ain't 2:31:00.400 --> 2:31:05.400 heard nothing, I ain't none. Listen, I got what you got. 2:31:08.400 --> 2:31:12.879 I got that shot out that. That's our culture. Most 2:31:12.920 --> 2:31:15.880 of them, it's unfortunate that won't. They won't one. So 2:31:16.000 --> 2:31:19.760 it is that like that talking about that today, I 2:31:19.840 --> 2:31:21.640 was on, you know, inside the NFL talking to Kill 2:31:21.680 --> 2:31:24.879 Sims and it's like, I'm a wide receiver, played thirteen 2:31:24.959 --> 2:31:28.080 years in the National Football League. Then my numbers is crazy. 2:31:29.200 --> 2:31:35.080 Reach out to these things and there's nothing. I actually 2:31:35.120 --> 2:31:37.480 reach out to the dudes, and I was dumb, you know, 2:31:37.600 --> 2:31:39.080 I would say dumb because I did what I was 2:31:39.160 --> 2:31:41.360 supposed to do. I reached out to him. I'm like, yo, 2:31:41.480 --> 2:31:43.959 let me show you how I made it the thirteen 2:31:44.040 --> 2:31:48.480 years and how I did what? Huh, Antonio Brown. I 2:31:48.840 --> 2:31:51.760 reached out to Broum. I do like a b you 2:31:51.800 --> 2:31:53.320 know what I'm saying. And I think that you know, 2:31:53.440 --> 2:31:56.199 we all go through things and I never had that discussion. 2:31:56.320 --> 2:31:57.720 But I reached out to him. We never had that 2:31:57.760 --> 2:32:00.240 discussion similar situation. Probably you reach other people like I 2:32:00.320 --> 2:32:03.640 can't get that call back. Definitely did, but but it's 2:32:03.680 --> 2:32:06.560 it's it when you're not relatable anymore, Like when you're 2:32:06.600 --> 2:32:09.440 talking about that that that is so true. They don't 2:32:09.480 --> 2:32:13.400 see what you want from me. Oh you're hurting right now? No, bro, 2:32:13.600 --> 2:32:16.320 Like I got everything I need. I'm just trying to 2:32:16.360 --> 2:32:19.840 show you. See, they don't want to talk to you. 2:32:20.080 --> 2:32:22.160 They think you want something from them. So there's a 2:32:22.240 --> 2:32:25.400 lot of wide receivers or people guys in the NFL 2:32:25.720 --> 2:32:28.400 that I reach out to and they won't even train 2:32:28.480 --> 2:32:31.320 out my facility. They don't even text return my call. 2:32:31.360 --> 2:32:34.600 And we talk about college kids and I'm like, bro, 2:32:35.520 --> 2:32:37.600 were you trying to go? I did that at the 2:32:37.720 --> 2:32:46.160 highest level thirteen times. But they had a level of 2:32:46.240 --> 2:32:48.680 celebrity that you guys didn't have, right, Like social media 2:32:49.240 --> 2:32:52.440 has made them like they're in college and they're literally celebrities. 2:32:52.560 --> 2:32:56.360 Y'a wouldn't have that, and NFL players are literally not 2:32:56.920 --> 2:32:58.680 you know, you have to helme. A lot of people 2:32:59.520 --> 2:33:01.440 go to the girl support, and people will not know 2:33:01.480 --> 2:33:06.720 who you are unless you're in that earlier you have 2:33:06.879 --> 2:33:09.360 the thing. But these these kids now, like if you 2:33:09.520 --> 2:33:11.879 play for a big school, you probably have a hundred 2:33:12.040 --> 2:33:14.400 hundred couple hundred thousand followers right Like you're already a 2:33:14.440 --> 2:33:17.200 celebrity in your head, So your ego is going to 2:33:17.280 --> 2:33:19.400 be so much more inflated. Like NFL players are just 2:33:19.480 --> 2:33:21.720 going to be more down to earth than NBA players 2:33:21.840 --> 2:33:23.560 because a lot of them, you go only where people 2:33:23.640 --> 2:33:25.680 literally don't know who you are. Like there's NFL players 2:33:25.720 --> 2:33:28.359 that you're at the door of the club and they're 2:33:28.400 --> 2:33:30.600 gonna be like, yeah, I'm sorry, Like I don't know 2:33:31.200 --> 2:33:32.880 you know what I mean fights. I got to Miami 2:33:32.920 --> 2:33:34.840 when I was y'all coming down here, like you don't 2:33:34.840 --> 2:33:39.879 know who I am. I just went to the propol. 2:33:44.440 --> 2:33:48.120 Let me tell this is different, is different street. Let 2:33:48.200 --> 2:33:52.520 me tell you what I was playing for. My last 2:33:52.560 --> 2:33:55.120 Cup of team, my last Cup of Team New York 2:33:55.160 --> 2:33:58.240 Giants two thousand and eighteen. We stunk it up. I 2:33:58.400 --> 2:34:00.920 was stay not taking it up, goat. I ain't know 2:34:01.000 --> 2:34:02.960 nothing about no Supreme bro, Like I'm like, you know 2:34:03.000 --> 2:34:06.560 what I'm saying. I don't really find close. So I'm 2:34:06.560 --> 2:34:08.840 out in New York. Everybody talking about Supreme, Supreme Supreme. 2:34:09.120 --> 2:34:11.440 So I pulled up. I'm hurt. Now, I'm done for 2:34:11.520 --> 2:34:13.640 the year. I'm with my wife. I go to SOHO 2:34:13.920 --> 2:34:18.240 and I see this line wrapped around the New York 2:34:18.280 --> 2:34:21.879 the area area. I see a line wrapped around the corner. 2:34:21.959 --> 2:34:23.720 I pull up and I'm like, where's these people? Like 2:34:24.200 --> 2:34:26.400 three blocks and I get to the front and I 2:34:26.480 --> 2:34:28.640 see Supreme and said, oh, that's the brand that O'Dell 2:34:28.959 --> 2:34:31.640 Backham Junior talking about and Sterning Shepherd. Let me go 2:34:31.800 --> 2:34:34.000 check them out. Let me pull up now anywhere I 2:34:34.120 --> 2:34:36.640 go in the country like they're like, oh, yeah, that's love, 2:34:36.720 --> 2:34:38.840 come on in. I go to the front of the line. 2:34:38.879 --> 2:34:40.640 I'm like, yo, it's just me and my wife. I'm harbling. 2:34:40.720 --> 2:34:42.640 I just had surgery. I just I just want to 2:34:42.720 --> 2:34:44.840 check the brand now. I really like, you know, I'm 2:34:44.920 --> 2:34:46.840 hearing a lot about it. You know, I'm late to 2:34:46.920 --> 2:34:50.400 the show, you know, but I want to see what 2:34:50.800 --> 2:34:52.360 I'm talking about. No, no, no, no, no, this is 2:34:52.400 --> 2:34:54.920 what they This is what the bouncer told me. He said, 2:34:55.000 --> 2:34:57.680 bro y'all got three wins on the season right now, 2:34:57.879 --> 2:35:13.000 and you yo, I see yo. Even we were in Miami, 2:35:13.040 --> 2:35:19.240 no more, no sixteen. Even they they told me something 2:35:20.040 --> 2:35:21.960 back and like you ain't getting it, and I said, 2:35:22.080 --> 2:35:23.520 I just want to go check it out me quick. 2:35:23.640 --> 2:35:25.160 He said, go to the back of the line. And 2:35:25.280 --> 2:35:30.920 then that five sold. He was big, but it was 2:35:31.000 --> 2:35:35.280 like six. He was big. Y. I ain't. Don't think 2:35:35.320 --> 2:35:37.800 about nothing. I don't my mom like I really lost 2:35:37.840 --> 2:35:41.480 it because I felt kind of disrespected my wife, like 2:35:42.080 --> 2:35:44.120 like you understood. People get to pull out their phone 2:35:44.200 --> 2:35:46.360 right now. You're tripping right now, like I lost it. 2:35:46.640 --> 2:35:50.120 But Miami ain't too far off to you. Ain't got 2:35:50.200 --> 2:35:53.520 five kicks with you in the line. Back in the line, buddy, 2:35:59.000 --> 2:36:06.560 don't get anyone. You shot it ready board. I'm sorry, 2:36:07.959 --> 2:36:15.280 the boy says the biggest shot, because that's I said, 2:36:16.040 --> 2:36:20.320 taking what the boar today, y'all taking care of nor 2:36:20.480 --> 2:36:24.080 I know the game. You should have plex with you 2:36:24.520 --> 2:36:29.880 in Miami. Let's go place the heat on it. Let's 2:36:29.920 --> 2:36:33.680 keep the heat one. When he when he shot himself, 2:36:34.040 --> 2:36:38.800 that's my little brother. I'm not just when I want money. 2:36:38.840 --> 2:36:41.360 When he caught that ship on his helm against Patriots, Yeah, 2:36:41.640 --> 2:36:45.480 he brought the big boy because I will be honest. 2:36:45.520 --> 2:36:48.520 When when Pleax got corp with the gun shot it sell, 2:36:48.959 --> 2:36:53.120 that's when the public knew that it's no different from 2:36:53.200 --> 2:37:00.240 y'all and rappers. You know right, y'all be having sudden house. 2:37:00.720 --> 2:37:03.280 This is my thing, re plex and that's my little brother. 2:37:03.360 --> 2:37:05.480 I text him before I came. You know what I'm saying. 2:37:05.520 --> 2:37:07.160 He told me to tell you what's up. That's name, 2:37:09.160 --> 2:37:12.800 So my my thing with Plexes. I'm like, yo, uh 2:37:13.120 --> 2:37:17.640 he from v A, Virginia Beach Vig Newport News. The 2:37:17.800 --> 2:37:25.600 boys Virginia dudes, they something else. Dude, it's like our Philly, 2:37:25.959 --> 2:37:35.760 right Virginia. You know they watched it. But I told Black, 2:37:35.800 --> 2:37:39.800 I'm like, yo, bro, fun that glock ain't no safety 2:37:39.920 --> 2:37:45.320 on it, ain't no satans on the block. So here 2:37:45.320 --> 2:37:47.160 in the club and why, you know what I'm saying, 2:37:47.320 --> 2:37:51.760 in the middle of the city. And sweatpants. So he 2:37:51.879 --> 2:37:55.320 trying to keep it in his hip, but the sweatpants loose, 2:37:55.440 --> 2:37:57.840 so when it fell, he just tried to catch it 2:37:57.959 --> 2:38:00.680 from falling and he shot his self in the leg. 2:38:01.760 --> 2:38:04.360 And he was just going out to chill. You know 2:38:04.360 --> 2:38:09.080 what I'm saying. Behind Bloomberg at the time, he won't 2:38:09.120 --> 2:38:12.200 having it. So they prosecuted hard, and the next thing 2:38:12.280 --> 2:38:15.400 you know, he was up by Syracuse, locked up and 2:38:15.560 --> 2:38:18.400 vegetation was the only thing we could do. But he 2:38:18.520 --> 2:38:20.760 got through it, you know what I'm saying. But still 2:38:20.879 --> 2:38:23.520 for the young boys, like you gotta do whatever you 2:38:23.600 --> 2:38:27.120 gotta do to get by, but his rules you gotta follow. 2:38:30.560 --> 2:38:33.320 Like I feel like rappers, they're always on guard for 2:38:33.480 --> 2:38:38.680 being rock. I feel like I feel like I feel 2:38:38.720 --> 2:38:43.320 like athletes. Sometimes we obligous, you know what I mean, 2:38:43.440 --> 2:38:46.320 Like when you at roper, like a lot of times, 2:38:46.600 --> 2:38:48.720 you know, you you think when you think about the rappery, like, oh, 2:38:48.800 --> 2:38:51.840 he comes from the street, he understand he affiliate, etcetera, etcetera. 2:38:52.280 --> 2:38:54.240 So you understand the streets. You understand how to move 2:38:54.320 --> 2:38:58.240 in the streets. Athletes, we really college boys. We went 2:38:58.280 --> 2:39:00.640 through the system, come from a discipline. We come but yeah, 2:39:00.640 --> 2:39:03.080 but we come from we come from send me present 2:39:03.160 --> 2:39:07.040 of us, come from the same neighborhoods. But we know 2:39:07.200 --> 2:39:09.680 that kid gonna make it. We know we're gonna make it. 2:39:09.760 --> 2:39:13.800 So he good, you know, he good good? Right, So 2:39:15.120 --> 2:39:17.040 we come through this system and then when we get 2:39:17.080 --> 2:39:20.560 to the league, what happens is you start going to Miami, 2:39:21.040 --> 2:39:23.080 you start going to New York, you go to Vegas, 2:39:23.360 --> 2:39:25.240 you go some of these bigger markets, and you don't 2:39:25.320 --> 2:39:30.240 understand that how to move in those areas rappers like, 2:39:30.280 --> 2:39:32.920 it's that's the lifestyle. You understand that we're going to 2:39:33.000 --> 2:39:35.840 the same places. We don't got no bouncers, We ain't 2:39:35.840 --> 2:39:38.840 got no security. I'm the man, I'm this, I'm that 2:39:39.520 --> 2:39:42.080 in New York. Taught me that lesson, right, Like I 2:39:42.160 --> 2:39:44.760 went to New York and and and just me, my wife, 2:39:45.280 --> 2:39:47.119 my homeboy. He was in the league, and his fiance. 2:39:47.280 --> 2:39:50.640 We was at Marquis Nightclub and we're sitting there and 2:39:50.720 --> 2:39:53.600 the fight breakout next to us. We ain't got nothing 2:39:53.640 --> 2:39:55.800 to do that. We're just chilling. I ain't got no security, 2:39:55.840 --> 2:39:57.600 ain't got none of that. I just signed one of 2:39:57.680 --> 2:40:00.640 the biggest deals in NFL history for at the wide 2:40:00.720 --> 2:40:04.440 receiver position, the biggest deal right went over with Larry Fitzgerald. 2:40:05.240 --> 2:40:09.720 I'm sitting there feeling good, chilling, no problems, fight breakout 2:40:10.040 --> 2:40:13.440 and coming to our our spot. You know, I'm I'm like, yo, 2:40:13.640 --> 2:40:16.800 like chill, chill, And then it happened again. Chicks fighting, 2:40:17.160 --> 2:40:20.760 but they deep dudes. Everything bottles start getting thrown at 2:40:20.760 --> 2:40:22.240 the end of the night, so my wife get hid 2:40:22.240 --> 2:40:24.760 in her mouth. Boom, split everything open. I don't know 2:40:24.840 --> 2:40:26.320 how we made it out of there, because like, I 2:40:26.520 --> 2:40:29.080 just remember everybody coming and I pick up my wife 2:40:29.440 --> 2:40:31.400 and I'm going, I just like, I get my wife 2:40:31.400 --> 2:40:33.240 out of here. I get her out of there right 2:40:33.959 --> 2:40:37.560 after that, right, you know what I'm saying. You know, 2:40:37.760 --> 2:40:41.360 I was sued. A lady said that I'm the one 2:40:41.400 --> 2:40:44.480 that did it because she saw the opportunity Brandon Marshall, 2:40:44.600 --> 2:40:46.960 the football player did that had nothing to do with that. 2:40:47.360 --> 2:40:50.200 Four years my name dragged through the mud. I go 2:40:50.320 --> 2:40:53.000 to court. I'm going through everything. We got the footage, 2:40:53.040 --> 2:40:54.840 we got all of that, but I'm getting crushed. I 2:40:54.840 --> 2:40:57.520 ain't gett no marketing deals, nobody touching me. Oh this 2:40:57.600 --> 2:41:00.520 is boom boom boom, boom boom. We finally I get 2:41:00.560 --> 2:41:03.800 my day in court. They showed the footage that ain't 2:41:03.800 --> 2:41:07.480 Brandon Marshall throwing a punch, Brandon Marshall holding his wife right, 2:41:07.800 --> 2:41:09.800 And in that moment, it taught me something. And then 2:41:09.879 --> 2:41:11.760 this is what I always teach my guys, because every 2:41:11.800 --> 2:41:14.360 year we're bringing around thirty college guys going to the draft. 2:41:14.600 --> 2:41:16.120 We house and we feed, and we do all their 2:41:16.160 --> 2:41:18.880 medical we prep them for for the for the combine. 2:41:19.480 --> 2:41:22.320 And I always tell them, I'm saying, like, all right, 2:41:22.320 --> 2:41:24.280 we're gonna go out tonight. We're gonna go to Club Live, 2:41:24.520 --> 2:41:27.920 hottest club in Miami. Walk me through the whole scenario 2:41:28.080 --> 2:41:30.480 from eight pm to eight pm and eight a m. 2:41:30.640 --> 2:41:35.000 Next day. And and then they always missed one thing. Athletes, 2:41:35.360 --> 2:41:37.360 they always say like, yo, we get you take a 2:41:37.440 --> 2:41:39.519 club this and that. I'm like, where was the security? 2:41:40.800 --> 2:41:42.640 You don't got the security, but you know you can 2:41:42.720 --> 2:41:45.039 take an extra hundred dollars, two hundred dollars to the bouncer. 2:41:45.160 --> 2:41:48.080 Just stay right here, right. So, New York taught me 2:41:48.320 --> 2:41:50.480 a valuable lesson is how to move like a boss. 2:41:50.480 --> 2:41:52.800 And that's always what I tell my guys. I say, 2:41:53.160 --> 2:41:57.360 you're you're a professional athlete. Moved like a boss. Right. 2:41:57.640 --> 2:41:59.920 You will never see a boss move go to certain 2:42:00.040 --> 2:42:02.560 places and not be protected and not do certain things 2:42:02.600 --> 2:42:05.120 because you are a target. New York taught me a 2:42:05.200 --> 2:42:12.959 valuable lesson figuring. So, so, what was your favorite thing 2:42:13.040 --> 2:42:16.400 in in in the NFL to work with um? I 2:42:16.440 --> 2:42:20.680 would say, really just creating a space for black people. 2:42:21.000 --> 2:42:25.040 Oh sorry. You know before they didn't even use the 2:42:25.040 --> 2:42:26.879 word black. Like when I said I wanted to start 2:42:27.000 --> 2:42:29.760 the black engagement at work for black employees, they were like, 2:42:30.959 --> 2:42:36.199 so like, yeah, Like, can we just say minority people 2:42:36.280 --> 2:42:39.840 of color? I was like, no, we're saying black black. 2:42:39.959 --> 2:42:42.160 Our our experenses are different, and we have respect for 2:42:42.200 --> 2:42:44.480 other people's experiences, but ours are different and we should 2:42:44.480 --> 2:42:46.280 have a safe space for that. And I feel like 2:42:46.400 --> 2:42:48.760 that's what made my time worth it at the NFL 2:42:48.879 --> 2:42:51.879 because you have these I see all the black players, 2:42:52.560 --> 2:42:54.280 they meet me and they're like, I didn't even know 2:42:54.360 --> 2:42:56.560 a black woman worked at They They're just not used 2:42:56.600 --> 2:42:58.200 to seeing it, right, even though you go to the 2:42:58.240 --> 2:43:02.360 big colleges, they don't live black girls around any football programs. 2:43:02.360 --> 2:43:04.400 They don't let black people around the football program unless 2:43:04.400 --> 2:43:06.880 you're coaching. So to see me, they're like oh, And 2:43:06.920 --> 2:43:09.280 I'm like, okay, this is an opportunity. But I also 2:43:09.360 --> 2:43:11.520 think like we didn't feel heard. So that's what made 2:43:11.600 --> 2:43:14.360 my time worth it at the National Football League was 2:43:14.480 --> 2:43:16.879 creating a space for black people. And it's still there, 2:43:17.280 --> 2:43:20.039 it's still living on and I think that's what's important 2:43:20.080 --> 2:43:24.360 because NFL. The NFL had to realize that your black employees, like, 2:43:24.480 --> 2:43:26.360 they matter and you have to listen to them, just 2:43:26.520 --> 2:43:28.680 like your black players matter and you have to listen 2:43:28.760 --> 2:43:31.400 to them. And it's the same thing. So that's what 2:43:31.520 --> 2:43:33.360 made my time worth it. And then obviously there's getting 2:43:33.360 --> 2:43:36.039 to work with players. And you know, I worked with Brandon, 2:43:36.160 --> 2:43:38.480 I worked with Julius when I was at the Carolina Panthers, 2:43:38.720 --> 2:43:43.320 Julius Peppers um the Julius Peppers. So I think we 2:43:43.480 --> 2:43:46.480 established this a little bit earlier. Like sometimes like the 2:43:46.600 --> 2:43:50.120 quarterback is like the even though he's not the leader, 2:43:50.480 --> 2:43:52.800 he's like the coach. Right. So now when you look 2:43:52.840 --> 2:43:55.800 at it, how many black quarterbacks we got? We got eight? 2:43:56.000 --> 2:43:58.040 We got Dak Prescott, help me out here at the 2:44:05.879 --> 2:44:14.400 Jackson Baltimore, Ravens, Russell Wilson, the one we're talking about, right, No, 2:44:15.840 --> 2:44:20.680 you got Kyler Murray. No Murray, He's like we already. 2:44:23.560 --> 2:44:25.560 So we only got a handful. Last year was a 2:44:25.640 --> 2:44:27.200 year at the black quarterback though, like that was the 2:44:27.280 --> 2:44:31.160 most that there have been because people don't realize, I 2:44:31.200 --> 2:44:34.960 would say maybe even just ten years ago, we were 2:44:35.040 --> 2:44:37.280 told that you're not smart on to play quarterback like 2:44:37.840 --> 2:44:40.320 Michael Vick was called athletic. He was never called smart, 2:44:40.600 --> 2:44:43.000 he was never called strategic, he was never called a 2:44:43.040 --> 2:44:48.080 football genius. My homeboy. But but nobody ever talks about 2:44:48.879 --> 2:44:52.840 your words. I just wanted to defend him. As you know, 2:44:53.000 --> 2:44:56.240 now we're getting to the point where black players, I mean, 2:44:56.560 --> 2:44:58.440 even like Reggie used to be on the show, Reggie 2:44:58.480 --> 2:45:00.360 said that he used to be quarterback and then meeting him, 2:45:01.200 --> 2:45:02.600 let me let me, let me, let me, let me 2:45:02.640 --> 2:45:05.280 pick you up because you're all so right now I'm 2:45:05.360 --> 2:45:09.480 thinking of what the footage I watched of Michael Vicke. 2:45:09.879 --> 2:45:12.960 That's the exact word they use. They didn't use smart, 2:45:13.320 --> 2:45:17.840 because being a quarterback is you're you're watching the field. 2:45:17.879 --> 2:45:19.560 This is a chest. You should be the smartest person 2:45:19.680 --> 2:45:24.760 you and the one is probably you. Absolutely, But when 2:45:24.760 --> 2:45:32.640 they're talking about they never because and Tom Brady they 2:45:32.680 --> 2:45:35.840 say he's a gene. They say football i Q. Even basketball, 2:45:36.720 --> 2:45:40.200 they never say that about black football players, and even 2:45:40.280 --> 2:45:49.000 black like Lamar athletic. You're talking about Lamar Jackson. But 2:45:49.120 --> 2:45:51.960 Patrick Mahomes there now they're like, okay, he's smart, and 2:45:52.080 --> 2:45:55.080 he's but even still it's more so he's a freak 2:45:55.200 --> 2:45:57.520 like right, like they're still not saying like talking about 2:45:57.560 --> 2:46:00.600 him like Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers. And that's just 2:46:00.720 --> 2:46:03.359 a discrepancy. So you look at if you search football 2:46:03.400 --> 2:46:06.600 i Q and headlines, I guarantee you're not gonna find 2:46:06.680 --> 2:46:08.520 many black players that they're talking about. And that's why 2:46:08.600 --> 2:46:10.680 we were so to your thing. That's why you know 2:46:10.720 --> 2:46:13.800 a lot of people was disappointed in Dwayne Haskins because 2:46:13.920 --> 2:46:17.600 it's like when you look at Dak Prescott, DeShawn Jackson, 2:46:18.360 --> 2:46:21.480 Deshaun Watson, excuse me, Russell Wilson has done for the 2:46:21.600 --> 2:46:25.600 position right and how the revolution because he pushed it forward, 2:46:26.000 --> 2:46:29.520 you know, like you know, like we're talking about simple coverage. 2:46:30.360 --> 2:46:33.640 You know, a lot of you might understand Shanshan not 2:46:33.720 --> 2:46:38.760 excuse me, Dwayne Haskins basically COVID nineteen protocols for the NFL. 2:46:38.800 --> 2:46:40.840 You gotta do certain things. He was in the strip club. 2:46:41.080 --> 2:46:46.040 He didn't have a mask. Y'all got it, I got it. 2:46:46.280 --> 2:46:48.080 But that's that goes back to it. He's me, no, 2:46:48.240 --> 2:46:51.680 he's me right. But like we're coming into the NFL 2:46:51.959 --> 2:46:55.480 and coming into these positions, whether it's entertainment or basketball, 2:46:55.800 --> 2:46:59.920 we gotta understand how big the platform is and how 2:47:00.120 --> 2:47:02.640 big the businesses. So for him, he's coming in like 2:47:02.959 --> 2:47:06.000 I made it like no one. God, he wasn't at 2:47:06.040 --> 2:47:08.640 the door telling him like yo, I just want you 2:47:08.720 --> 2:47:13.880 to know, don't celebrate. But like about a book, dude, No, no, 2:47:14.080 --> 2:47:15.760 that's not true. No that's not true. And we're not 2:47:15.760 --> 2:47:17.879 talking about No, he didn't do nothing terrible. He didn't 2:47:17.920 --> 2:47:20.120 do nothing about what it is. It's like when we're 2:47:20.120 --> 2:47:24.520 talking about culture and production. It's culture is like making 2:47:24.560 --> 2:47:27.160 sure you're doing the right things. And the quarterback you are, 2:47:27.280 --> 2:47:30.520 the CEO of the franchis to the face of the franchis. 2:47:30.520 --> 2:47:33.160 You gotta lead up and you gotta leave down alright, pop, 2:47:34.920 --> 2:47:37.200 all right? So you got that. And then also from 2:47:37.240 --> 2:47:40.280 a production standpoint, just doing your job and and and 2:47:40.400 --> 2:47:41.880 that's what we're at. It is like, instead of you 2:47:42.000 --> 2:47:44.920 doing certain things, we need you to make sure when 2:47:44.920 --> 2:47:47.360 you drop back, you understand your progressions. You understand it's 2:47:47.360 --> 2:47:50.040 covered three, So cover three. I'm working this side. But 2:47:50.160 --> 2:47:52.760 if they flow to this side and it's covered one 2:47:53.280 --> 2:47:55.760 post not read. Now I'm going on this side, and 2:47:55.800 --> 2:47:57.600 now I go one to three, and you got do 2:47:57.640 --> 2:48:00.160 that split you gotta do that like that. So now 2:48:00.320 --> 2:48:02.280 I come out to the line of scriments blue thirty two, 2:48:02.320 --> 2:48:05.520 Blue thirty two, the mic fifty fives the mic right, 2:48:05.640 --> 2:48:09.000 like you're getting all this information? All right, Pope, priests 2:48:09.080 --> 2:48:10.760 not read before I hike the ball. I know I'm 2:48:10.760 --> 2:48:13.920 working this side because of what the defense is showing me. Okay, 2:48:14.080 --> 2:48:17.240 So now I get the ball. I dropped back. They 2:48:17.320 --> 2:48:19.960 do something different. So now I had this process in place, 2:48:20.040 --> 2:48:22.320 so where if they if they stay what they was doing, 2:48:22.360 --> 2:48:25.199 I'm gonna one to three back. That's what it is easy. 2:48:25.360 --> 2:48:27.880 But then they go to something else holding I'm gonna 2:48:27.879 --> 2:48:29.520 tell mother might to get there. So now they did 2:48:29.600 --> 2:48:32.119 something else. Post now took the ball. They went from 2:48:32.160 --> 2:48:35.680 here to here. Now I gotta go bang bang bang, 2:48:36.000 --> 2:48:37.360 And you got to do that in a blink of 2:48:37.400 --> 2:48:39.879 an eye. You gotta study, you gotta do your job. 2:48:40.000 --> 2:48:42.400 So all these things that Russell Wilson, dak Presscott did, 2:48:42.480 --> 2:48:45.720 they now we're certainly had the conversations to essays point 2:48:46.080 --> 2:48:48.920 high football, i Q black quarterback is more than an athlete. 2:48:49.120 --> 2:48:51.600 So that's why you know a couple of people, well, 2:48:51.640 --> 2:48:55.240 people was kind of upset with the Wayne Haskins because 2:48:55.280 --> 2:48:59.160 not doing his job press on him. But it's the 2:48:59.280 --> 2:49:01.080 right one because if you do the right play, they're 2:49:01.080 --> 2:49:03.080 gonna congratulate you. You do the wrong play, they're gonna 2:49:03.080 --> 2:49:05.160 tell you why if he would have been producing on 2:49:05.240 --> 2:49:12.879 the field, can suck on the field. Dwayne Haskins, junior 2:49:12.920 --> 2:49:16.080 from Washington Football Football. I like how you said, still 2:49:16.200 --> 2:49:18.680 make that mistake, make that mistake. I just want to 2:49:18.680 --> 2:49:21.280 shot my homie out. He's he coaches kids, so this 2:49:21.520 --> 2:49:26.280 is all very annortant. No mean him, let me talk, 2:49:26.360 --> 2:49:31.880 but it's gonna look but that's real though, he wasn't 2:49:31.920 --> 2:49:34.800 producing on the field. Like if you're if you're a 2:49:34.840 --> 2:49:36.680 star on the field, you're gonna get some grapes. But 2:49:36.760 --> 2:49:39.880 that's why I went into that story because all that 2:49:40.040 --> 2:49:42.600 what I just said, I did that intentionally. I didn't 2:49:42.640 --> 2:49:44.480 do that to show you how much I know football. 2:49:44.520 --> 2:49:46.520 I'm saying, like, that's crazy. A lot of people don't understand. 2:49:46.520 --> 2:49:48.320 People probably think you go out there, you're just I'm 2:49:48.320 --> 2:49:50.400 just throwing the ball. And you know, there's a process. 2:49:50.680 --> 2:49:55.160 You gotta read and you gotta study. So you right back, Yeah, 2:49:55.400 --> 2:49:57.680 you gotta do it. You gotta do what you gotta 2:49:57.680 --> 2:49:59.680 want to stop, do a good job in the classroom 2:49:59.720 --> 2:50:01.360 and make to show you're being a pro. And I 2:50:01.480 --> 2:50:03.720 think like to Fred's point, because we talked about this 2:50:03.800 --> 2:50:06.440 on the show, and a lot of times we crushed 2:50:06.440 --> 2:50:09.240 our guys and we had these conversations on these shows 2:50:09.720 --> 2:50:13.280 and we don't really reach out and say, look, all right, 2:50:13.320 --> 2:50:15.680 look you made a mistake. Now let us give you 2:50:15.760 --> 2:50:18.200 the game. And here it is. So Fred was like, look, 2:50:18.240 --> 2:50:20.800 we're gonna reach out to you and if you need us, 2:50:20.840 --> 2:50:25.120 we're here. You did that, Fred did that? Fred. Fred 2:50:25.600 --> 2:50:28.920 to me, I already already said it. I like, I 2:50:29.040 --> 2:50:32.840 am athletes because of what you are and Channing because 2:50:32.840 --> 2:50:36.440 I listened to him on six AM in Miami, Andsinko's 2:50:36.440 --> 2:50:41.000 already we illuminated. But Fred to me feels like I 2:50:41.120 --> 2:50:43.440 know him, like I grew up with somebody like you. 2:50:44.120 --> 2:50:46.000 You know. So I relate to Fred tell a lot 2:50:46.040 --> 2:50:47.880 more than what I do with everybody else. But it's 2:50:47.879 --> 2:50:51.560 all love. But you know, to me, that's dope. I 2:50:51.640 --> 2:50:53.879 am athlete with a great idea of few fifteen. I'm 2:50:53.879 --> 2:50:57.200 trying to lose weight, so I'm following that. I'm ting, 2:50:59.280 --> 2:51:00.920 but I do want to give a shout out because 2:51:00.920 --> 2:51:03.440 we drink champe Does as a podcast that we started 2:51:03.480 --> 2:51:06.000 four years ago to get flowers to all our five 2:51:06.080 --> 2:51:11.080 years ago, five years ago the legends when when when 2:51:11.160 --> 2:51:14.440 it comes to sports, you guys on a different regiment 2:51:14.520 --> 2:51:18.800 as far as routine, health wise, execution, commitment. And for 2:51:18.959 --> 2:51:22.720 you to be one of the Bears top one hundred players, 2:51:23.080 --> 2:51:25.360 for you to be in a ten thousand yard rush 2:51:25.440 --> 2:51:28.680 club members club chanting to do his shin and Ocho 2:51:28.760 --> 2:51:31.600 Cinco to be everything he is to me, I'm a 2:51:31.640 --> 2:51:33.680 sports guy, like he said, coach kids, He's all up 2:51:33.720 --> 2:51:38.560 to you exactly, and for you to be beve bade 2:51:38.600 --> 2:51:45.120 Mouth City for everybody else does bring it out. We 2:51:45.200 --> 2:51:47.560 got some gifts. That's what it is you're talking about. 2:51:48.160 --> 2:51:51.440 You're talking about am I good right here? Yes? Yeah, 2:51:52.160 --> 2:51:54.720 you're talking about like health and worldness and you're trying 2:51:54.720 --> 2:51:58.160 to lose weight. That's you know, we talked about finances earlier, 2:51:58.480 --> 2:52:00.360 but we also got to head that conversation see about 2:52:00.360 --> 2:52:02.680 helping wellness. So y'all talked to me earlier about what 2:52:02.720 --> 2:52:03.960 I want to do, Like I know, I want to 2:52:04.000 --> 2:52:06.840 own a team. My passion, my purpose is to help 2:52:06.920 --> 2:52:10.480 people eat better. Train better, so we're not struggling because 2:52:10.520 --> 2:52:12.440 how we eat and how we approach that like it's 2:52:12.520 --> 2:52:15.240 killing us. So you know, that's what House of Athlete is. 2:52:15.760 --> 2:52:17.080 And I don't even know if I can open this. 2:52:18.440 --> 2:52:21.280 I got some gifts for y'all. We formulated supplements, man, 2:52:22.520 --> 2:52:24.520 we got care, We got all of that right, and 2:52:25.240 --> 2:52:28.600 we gotta create a space in our community where people understand. 2:52:29.360 --> 2:52:31.920 You gotta we gotta create a space in our community 2:52:31.959 --> 2:52:34.040 where we're understanding what a healthy car is, where the 2:52:34.080 --> 2:52:36.440 healthy fat is, with healthy veggie is, what the health 2:52:36.520 --> 2:52:39.200 what the healthy protein is. We don't know that fried 2:52:39.320 --> 2:52:42.440 chicken fast food. No, that's not the way. You know 2:52:42.480 --> 2:52:46.640 what I'm saying. So we got some stuff for y'all. Alright, 2:52:46.840 --> 2:52:54.760 you're gonna put it over. I'm on the camera. We 2:52:54.840 --> 2:53:00.080 got in there. Okay, what the hell? So uh we 2:53:00.160 --> 2:53:05.959 go that's something I know that hoo do you got everything? Everything? 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You gotta set up systems and they 2:53:41.160 --> 2:53:44.200 gotta be automated. You've done this before. Hey, no, I'm 2:53:44.240 --> 2:53:51.000 studying it. Yea, we got you the gray set and 2:53:51.040 --> 2:53:54.920 then the black sweater that actually for you Too's gonna 2:53:54.920 --> 2:54:01.000 share what I read. Try to get a kippie's hat. 2:54:02.000 --> 2:54:05.720 And then here's the supplements, right, mental fitness, mental health 2:54:05.800 --> 2:54:09.600 for me? Thank you, thank you. You talked about post 2:54:09.680 --> 2:54:21.119 traumatic wrap. Yeah, sit down real quick, but supplements real quick. 2:54:21.160 --> 2:54:24.800 This is vintament I'm taking among everybody. Deal with anxiety. 2:54:25.000 --> 2:54:30.280 That's just natural, that's mental fatigue, fall anxiety, just something 2:54:30.320 --> 2:54:32.760 that we can just knock the edge off. 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We have nutritional supplements. 2:55:24.440 --> 2:55:27.880 We have a friend, Jim Cole house house, and we 2:55:27.959 --> 2:55:31.760 have a public facility in western Florida where we train 2:55:32.160 --> 2:55:35.400 Jim Pop. So everyday athletes like you guys, as well 2:55:35.480 --> 2:55:38.039 as the elite pros as well as the college guys 2:55:38.040 --> 2:55:41.480 that are trying to make it into the just going 2:55:41.520 --> 2:55:53.400 tomorrow points. You gotta come. You gotta train with Ben 2:55:53.680 --> 2:55:59.840 I don't train with but you can train with Benize 2:56:00.320 --> 2:56:03.760 work who play. It might not be the best, No, 2:56:03.879 --> 2:56:08.200 but here's the thing, but he's nice. This is the thought. 2:56:08.400 --> 2:56:18.400 This is the thought behind it, right, like yeah, and 2:56:18.480 --> 2:56:20.880 then and then pittsburghs and in Florida. So that's a 2:56:20.879 --> 2:56:24.760 little mixed, a little everything, but the thought behind it. 2:56:25.080 --> 2:56:29.400 Did I say that? Right? Yeah? Alright, It's like the 2:56:29.520 --> 2:56:32.760 athlete were the healthiest people on the planet. And instead 2:56:32.800 --> 2:56:35.400 of going out and building other people's companies and brands. 2:56:35.520 --> 2:56:38.560 It's a four point four point three trillion dollar industry. 2:56:39.160 --> 2:56:43.000 You know, let's teach people health, health and wellness. Wellness. 2:56:43.040 --> 2:56:45.040 That's it. That's the buzzword in the space right now. 2:56:45.800 --> 2:56:49.280 So instead of us going out and you know, there's 2:56:49.560 --> 2:56:53.400 all these other brands, all these other supplement companies, nutritional companies, 2:56:53.640 --> 2:57:00.480 people and kind of get I'm sorry, are you good? 2:57:01.120 --> 2:57:04.840 Because that same thing. Do y'all know that pandemic You 2:57:04.920 --> 2:57:08.000 couldn't even buy that in the package store. That was 2:57:08.080 --> 2:57:10.760 the hottest well, his rose was the hotest, hottest thing, 2:57:11.240 --> 2:57:12.879 you know what I'm saying. Like I was going out, 2:57:13.360 --> 2:57:15.960 requested it and we delivered it. Appreciate thank you that 2:57:21.680 --> 2:57:27.480 you know this. Okay, okay, let's okay, but but but 2:57:27.560 --> 2:57:29.120 it's not just that. It's to your point when you 2:57:29.160 --> 2:57:31.840 talk about quality stuff, and we think about Rick Ross. 2:57:31.879 --> 2:57:34.119 The first time I ever sipped about his belt Lars 2:57:34.240 --> 2:57:36.680 rose was during the pandemic. I went out, we had 2:57:36.720 --> 2:57:39.040 a little barbecue and I was like, let me try it. 2:57:39.680 --> 2:57:42.600 And it was the hottest thing, man, Like, it was smooth. 2:57:42.879 --> 2:57:44.960 I didn't travel the country, just the world, just like 2:57:45.120 --> 2:57:48.520 you sipping on different Rose's and that was so good. 2:57:49.000 --> 2:57:50.840 But that you know, yeah, shout out to Rick Ross, 2:57:51.040 --> 2:57:53.360 but shout out to you. Because House of Athlete is 2:57:54.000 --> 2:57:56.720 owned by Brandon Marshall. Like most athletes I can attest to, 2:57:57.600 --> 2:57:59.720 they're the face of it, they are not the majority 2:57:59.760 --> 2:58:02.400 owner of it. Most athletes that you see pushing brands 2:58:02.720 --> 2:58:09.640 like Brandon is the exacting with the own say said most. 2:58:09.800 --> 2:58:17.240 I said most he could be if there's anybody. Yeah, yeah, Sha, 2:58:17.480 --> 2:58:25.360 because Shack owned ship, so we're good. They're just yeah. 2:58:25.480 --> 2:58:29.040 But he's smart though. And then but he keep like 2:58:29.200 --> 2:58:32.480 the whole Papa john thing. The Papa John's they brought 2:58:32.680 --> 2:58:37.160 Papa John's had a controversy as well. Yeah, Johns came 2:58:37.240 --> 2:58:40.960 to to to rebuild their brand, and Sha, that's great, 2:58:41.160 --> 2:58:43.080 that's a great second. You haven't been involved with a 2:58:43.160 --> 2:58:47.959 team that was considered racist, Yeah, well would be everything. 2:58:48.120 --> 2:58:50.360 I know. I think, I think, I think, I think 2:58:50.480 --> 2:58:53.560 I think we saw this is an easy conversation. I 2:58:53.680 --> 2:58:58.240 think we saw in how uncomfortable some people are talking about, 2:58:58.879 --> 2:59:02.440 you know, race in the America. Okay, so it's like, 2:59:03.000 --> 2:59:05.400 are you okay with saying Black Lives Matter, just something simple, 2:59:05.440 --> 2:59:08.040 like forget the movement and the whole organization behind it, 2:59:08.120 --> 2:59:14.400 just to say so, whether that is a person or organization, 2:59:14.920 --> 2:59:17.680 we saw how uncomfortable people are, whether that's an owner 2:59:18.160 --> 2:59:22.040 not saying it. And you know what I mean, Dallas Cowboys, 2:59:22.120 --> 2:59:24.720 Jerry Jones never said it. You know what I mean 2:59:24.800 --> 2:59:26.520 said if you do this, we're gonna cut you in 2:59:26.640 --> 2:59:29.840 certain areas. Right, So, like there's a lot of owners 2:59:30.200 --> 2:59:34.600 that never there that still like stood up, locked arms 2:59:34.680 --> 2:59:36.920 or took a knee with the players. And this isn't 2:59:36.920 --> 2:59:39.800 a time where you have to have a point of view. 2:59:40.400 --> 2:59:43.760 It's not okay to say, you know what, politics, religion, race, 2:59:43.879 --> 2:59:48.800 We just don't discuss that anymore. Got you can't let 2:59:49.000 --> 2:59:51.200 when you're wealthy, you can, though, right, So, like when 2:59:51.240 --> 2:59:55.119 you're wealthy, you can be Mr Kraft with the Patriots, 2:59:55.400 --> 2:59:58.280 you can depen up with Meek mil you can build 2:59:58.280 --> 3:00:00.720 people out of jail, but you can also played golf 3:00:00.760 --> 3:00:04.880 with Trump in mar life. Because when you're wealthy, you 3:00:05.000 --> 3:00:07.640 have the privilege, you have the privilege of not choosing. 3:00:08.000 --> 3:00:11.160 And that's why they struggled because it was the first 3:00:11.200 --> 3:00:13.440 time where they didn't have the privilege to say, Look, 3:00:13.720 --> 3:00:16.160 I give to the you know, to the Double A CP, 3:00:16.320 --> 3:00:18.680 I get to the Negro College Fund. Why do I 3:00:18.760 --> 3:00:20.280 have to say the Black Lives matter? Because that's gonna 3:00:20.280 --> 3:00:23.160 mess up my dad. Hold on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 3:00:23.200 --> 3:00:24.560 I just want to I want to speak on something 3:00:24.640 --> 3:00:27.080 I so and it's a shameless plug at the same time. 3:00:27.360 --> 3:00:30.160 So I went, I do these documentary films and I 3:00:30.200 --> 3:00:32.840 went to South Africa recently. Why we gotta say, shameless plug. 3:00:32.920 --> 3:00:47.440 This is our platform. I just tell us. So, this 3:00:47.600 --> 3:00:49.959 is something that I because coming from the United States 3:00:50.080 --> 3:00:51.640 and going to South I went to South Africa to 3:00:51.720 --> 3:00:54.440 do one of my six film in the series. And 3:00:54.520 --> 3:00:57.000 the one thing that I that I thought was really 3:00:58.520 --> 3:01:01.480 different than the United States eights because you know, they 3:01:01.520 --> 3:01:04.640 had a part time and apartheid in our lifetime is 3:01:04.879 --> 3:01:09.680 very recent and something that something that US in the 3:01:09.840 --> 3:01:12.480 US might think, like, man, that seems like some ancient 3:01:12.600 --> 3:01:14.600 ship that happened to that. But I mean, now, in 3:01:14.640 --> 3:01:16.600 the way that times are in the US doesn't seem 3:01:16.600 --> 3:01:19.520 so ancient anymore. But growing up in the eighties and nineties, 3:01:19.560 --> 3:01:23.320 it seemed like some ancient ship to this. So you 3:01:23.400 --> 3:01:26.000 know what I thought was crazy about South Africa is 3:01:26.080 --> 3:01:32.119 that they spoke openly about racism, about apartheid. White dude 3:01:32.200 --> 3:01:35.600 sitting in the restaurant right here, black dude right here, 3:01:35.840 --> 3:01:38.760 and he's like apart time dot dot dot and then 3:01:38.800 --> 3:01:42.880 the white dude, different view point of view. No, but 3:01:43.080 --> 3:01:46.600 by and then they had a dialogue. You captured all this, 3:01:48.040 --> 3:01:50.160 I want to say I did. I No, No, I 3:01:50.200 --> 3:01:52.160 want to say I did. I don't think I captured 3:01:52.280 --> 3:01:55.040 exactly what I experienced, to be honest with you, to 3:01:55.080 --> 3:01:57.000 be because I was. I was going over there to 3:01:57.080 --> 3:02:00.240 document hip hop and South Africa, so that was my 3:02:00.360 --> 3:02:03.280 main point of view. So I'm talking about by me 3:02:03.440 --> 3:02:06.560 and the restaurant. You know what I'm saying, me just 3:02:06.720 --> 3:02:09.560 walking around. So you went over there to get something 3:02:09.760 --> 3:02:13.360 like hip hop and you experienced something totally different. Yeah, 3:02:13.800 --> 3:02:16.440 it was, it was, It was, It was extraordinary. Yeah, 3:02:16.760 --> 3:02:19.120 I'm gonna pick it back off what you're saying. Because 3:02:19.160 --> 3:02:26.640 I went over to Joe Berg and Kate two thousand 3:02:26.720 --> 3:02:31.640 three five parts Fresh Right off the Hills, everything that 3:02:31.800 --> 3:02:36.520 was going on, visited um Mandela childhood home. I went there, 3:02:36.840 --> 3:02:39.320 you know what I'm saying, Visited the island where he 3:02:39.440 --> 3:02:43.080 was locked up in Cape Town. So I can I 3:02:43.200 --> 3:02:46.360 can vouce for everything he's saying, because it was still fresh. 3:02:46.879 --> 3:02:51.960 You have you have, uh the Afrikaans which is jet 3:02:52.000 --> 3:02:55.560 black color, which is different to us. We understand that. 3:02:55.680 --> 3:02:58.200 And then as it relates to what we have in 3:02:58.240 --> 3:03:05.240 the States, right you after Dutch rape the black those 3:03:05.280 --> 3:03:07.600 are the whites, but they raped the black women that 3:03:07.800 --> 3:03:13.480 created created the colors, and we got mixed breezes in between, 3:03:13.959 --> 3:03:17.520 we got mixed breeze the Europeans that came here, right 3:03:18.040 --> 3:03:21.080 and they rape the black women. Slave owners that rape 3:03:21.120 --> 3:03:24.000 the black women's you got the chance, you feel me? 3:03:25.360 --> 3:03:30.640 So it's all the same shiplatos, but it's deep in 3:03:30.840 --> 3:03:34.480 in South Africa because it's more relevant. I mean, this 3:03:34.680 --> 3:03:40.280 just was two thousand. They talk about it very openly 3:03:40.720 --> 3:03:43.120 and very like they do. We don't do that. So 3:03:45.600 --> 3:03:47.720 why is that such? Why was that so such an 3:03:47.920 --> 3:03:51.240 so impactful for you becacause here is so like you 3:03:51.320 --> 3:03:54.240 can't talk about and then they can't talk about racism, 3:03:54.560 --> 3:03:57.000 you know what I'm saying, Like over there, the black dude, 3:03:57.120 --> 3:03:59.880 this is apart time, it just happened. What was your 3:04:00.000 --> 3:04:02.920 inn nection though? Well, I mean I was doing my film, 3:04:02.959 --> 3:04:07.200 but my hole. But no, Yeah, when you were in Africa, right, 3:04:07.560 --> 3:04:10.320 if you're not white going to Africa, you feel a 3:04:10.400 --> 3:04:15.000 connection to the people, to the Cuban Cuban I mean, 3:04:15.560 --> 3:04:16.680 you know what I found out when I was in 3:04:17.240 --> 3:04:19.000 South Afard the Cubans were the only ones that ever 3:04:19.120 --> 3:04:22.920 beat the white Africans in a war. Yeah. See, so 3:04:23.080 --> 3:04:27.440 you feel a connection. I mean that was a indirect correct, yeah, direct? 3:04:27.680 --> 3:04:31.640 What is this film coming out? Lookin any more? And 3:04:33.000 --> 3:04:35.400 I know my homie, My homie was a rapper out 3:04:35.440 --> 3:04:37.720 here in Miami who you would look at at face 3:04:37.800 --> 3:04:40.880 value and think he's a white dude. Found out he's colored. 3:04:41.560 --> 3:04:45.120 He has his grandfather from Cape Town. And then he 3:04:45.200 --> 3:04:48.240 looked we found his birth certificate. He's colored, brought out 3:04:48.280 --> 3:04:50.520 to recognize. So what's the name of his film? It's 3:04:50.560 --> 3:04:53.000 Coming Home South Africa? What is it coming out with? 3:04:53.320 --> 3:04:55.960 I mean, I'm in discussions for the whole series Coming Home. 3:04:56.040 --> 3:05:00.560 I did Cuba, Haiti, Vietnam, Columbia. Oh my goodness, right, 3:05:00.640 --> 3:05:09.200 nor they're gonna look at yo, we'd be out this. Yeah, 3:05:09.400 --> 3:05:20.560 they're going to drink champs in South Africa working. They 3:05:20.600 --> 3:05:25.080 were like, you don't because like at first, like you know, 3:05:25.160 --> 3:05:28.040 I just got into this whole podcast, this whole content world, 3:05:28.160 --> 3:05:30.200 you know, just eight months ago, and now you're going 3:05:30.200 --> 3:05:33.280 on Instagram and everything is drink champs. You know that 3:05:33.600 --> 3:05:38.880 for real? Yeah, so many people, everybody showed amazing and 3:05:39.160 --> 3:05:42.240 now that we're going through this, right learning from y'all, 3:05:43.240 --> 3:05:47.240 we got people in Italy watching crazy because we are 3:05:47.320 --> 3:05:52.040 the beacon everything and you know, back to think about it, 3:05:52.360 --> 3:05:55.720 let me tell you why I got the Travelers. Yeah yeah, yeah, 3:05:55.720 --> 3:06:00.640 absolutely working and going to continue to work because the 3:06:00.760 --> 3:06:04.080 same thought me and E F Ben had. We said, y'all, 3:06:05.120 --> 3:06:08.000 they was the first take god bless first take off 3:06:09.360 --> 3:06:13.640 was was skip bliss, undiscmuted these other things. The only 3:06:13.760 --> 3:06:16.600 difference is I feel like we're just as good as them. 3:06:17.080 --> 3:06:22.240 But the thing is the show that actually played the game. 3:06:22.440 --> 3:06:25.880 It's gonna be so much. Yeah, like you know what 3:06:25.879 --> 3:06:28.560 I'm saying that this is this is a real DJ. 3:06:28.840 --> 3:06:31.000 Like I try to get him a DJ party. If 3:06:31.160 --> 3:06:34.959 you don't got viny, he don't want to. Yeah, thinking 3:06:35.000 --> 3:06:40.200 that it was fantastic, Yeah, because you know that's a 3:06:40.240 --> 3:06:43.560 stuff that's a real DJ. They want to be next. Yeah, 3:06:47.480 --> 3:07:00.280 you so somebody want to play this right right. There's 3:07:00.280 --> 3:07:02.400 no record labor telling you what you can I say, 3:07:02.480 --> 3:07:05.560 there's no telling what you can say. And that's where 3:07:05.640 --> 3:07:08.959 people that's what people want here, who are y'all for real? 3:07:09.640 --> 3:07:12.080 But this is with me and this this guy said, 3:07:12.080 --> 3:07:15.960 you know what, that's just people that we know, is 3:07:16.160 --> 3:07:20.039 about that life that that's just like us. So now 3:07:20.120 --> 3:07:22.400 you have all these other podcasts, you have all these 3:07:22.480 --> 3:07:26.040 other whatever whatever. And I'm not saying we're the original 3:07:26.160 --> 3:07:28.480 because I want to pack myself up. I'm saying that 3:07:28.560 --> 3:07:31.960 because it's the truth. You can actually google this, we know, 3:07:32.680 --> 3:07:35.800 and like we're the first. Like I looked at you know, 3:07:36.959 --> 3:07:46.120 Kenny Smith just because I like doing this key Kenny 3:07:46.160 --> 3:07:49.080 Smiths from my hood. He does what's that ship called 3:07:49.920 --> 3:07:54.120 in the inside of the NBA, And I'm like, you know, 3:07:54.400 --> 3:07:58.360 I can't remember him winning the championship with Houston, him 3:07:58.480 --> 3:08:05.800 coming left Rack whod and bringing the trophy. That's that 3:08:05.920 --> 3:08:08.800 ship was ill for me. So I was like, all right, 3:08:10.320 --> 3:08:12.920 I didn't know what that meant, but this is what 3:08:13.120 --> 3:08:15.240 it means. Now. It's like, all right, cool. You know 3:08:15.800 --> 3:08:17.600 there's not a rapper who con front of me that's 3:08:17.640 --> 3:08:20.440 not after you in front of me because they know 3:08:20.720 --> 3:08:24.199 I was in the trenches. I didn't go then and fail. 3:08:24.560 --> 3:08:27.760 I went there in one you know, just like my 3:08:27.879 --> 3:08:31.240 partner he went there in one and now together. That 3:08:31.360 --> 3:08:33.800 can't front of me, like you know, I'm not the 3:08:33.879 --> 3:08:36.200 fat You don't know what the FBI just come over 3:08:36.240 --> 3:08:39.760 here and fun. But what I'm saying, come on, fucking fun? 3:08:40.200 --> 3:08:43.960 But do you find? Do you find? Like it? Goddamn shot? 3:08:47.200 --> 3:08:52.480 But when I'm thinking, who could have seen the people 3:08:52.520 --> 3:08:57.840 that saving us? Who's gonna say that I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 3:08:57.920 --> 3:09:03.360 My brother can kill mad you this bro? How y'all 3:09:03.440 --> 3:09:10.680 boys feel about the your show? Yeah, and and everybody 3:09:10.800 --> 3:09:13.800 that's in your industry coming back with the comments that 3:09:13.879 --> 3:09:16.320 they have with Black I wrote to see the niggers 3:09:16.360 --> 3:09:21.080 on your show. Everybody calls him to fans and I 3:09:21.120 --> 3:09:23.400 don't know him. Maybe you guys do, but everybody calls him, 3:09:24.280 --> 3:09:27.040 but then people still go to him and spill everything. 3:09:27.600 --> 3:09:29.880 I mean, we don't. I'm on the outside. I don't know. 3:09:31.640 --> 3:09:34.440 They still got a little to get. No, it's not 3:09:35.440 --> 3:09:42.440 stop to take you said, why why are you saying? 3:09:42.520 --> 3:09:45.160 Guys not coming to y'all first? They do? They do? 3:09:46.360 --> 3:09:49.600 We can't compare to him like we're great, We're great, like, 3:09:49.760 --> 3:09:52.080 but to think about it is the think about it is, 3:09:55.040 --> 3:09:59.520 it's like, what's the guy that I'm cool of, guy 3:09:59.600 --> 3:10:06.720 who's was to kill Tupac? M Um, the guy he's 3:10:06.720 --> 3:10:09.520 in Vegas right now, we're supposed to kill them. Yeah, 3:10:13.440 --> 3:10:18.600 police officer, nobody knows his name, whatever it is. But 3:10:18.920 --> 3:10:22.000 what that guy goog Well if you google that guy, 3:10:22.440 --> 3:10:26.760 I'm google that has no mob James is the guy 3:10:26.840 --> 3:10:30.160 that does the podcast. Yeah, keep you d So the 3:10:30.240 --> 3:10:33.160 thing about it is, you know, I don't know keep deposition, 3:10:33.240 --> 3:10:35.760 I don't know whatever whatever, but I do know that lad. 3:10:35.879 --> 3:10:41.680 He'd be paid him to do. He paid for interviews. 3:10:42.400 --> 3:10:44.960 He has to at this point, we don't do that. 3:10:45.400 --> 3:10:48.120 I don't. I'm not saying every interview. And that's the 3:10:48.200 --> 3:10:51.720 reason why, you know, going back, you know, um, I 3:10:51.800 --> 3:10:54.640 want to reiterate because you know we had the interview 3:10:54.640 --> 3:11:01.120 of the Year with and you know I've been you know, 3:11:01.200 --> 3:11:04.959 I've been throwing my shots. This ain't as ain't little 3:11:05.000 --> 3:11:10.480 flat from right and then he doesn't deserve it. I'm 3:11:10.520 --> 3:11:12.760 playing with you, is you you have nothing to do 3:11:12.920 --> 3:11:19.480 with it. Just establishment and Larry Jackson, who is actually 3:11:19.520 --> 3:11:22.040 the big homie. It's my man, like I love Larry Jackson. 3:11:22.680 --> 3:11:24.960 But the fact is, when when you seek that emminem 3:11:25.560 --> 3:11:28.640 interview at the end of the year, it was so 3:11:28.720 --> 3:11:31.200 many people who tagged us. It was just like look, 3:11:31.400 --> 3:11:34.440 trying to take your interview out and it was just 3:11:34.560 --> 3:11:38.440 like all right, great, and it's a weird thing. It's 3:11:38.440 --> 3:11:45.439 a weird thing sometimes because we're part of our establishment, 3:11:45.520 --> 3:11:48.600 but we're not really a part of no establishment. We're 3:11:48.720 --> 3:11:50.960 like the We're definitely not a part of the South. 3:11:51.959 --> 3:11:54.240 We're like funk with them, but we're looking at our 3:11:54.360 --> 3:12:01.600 own little like the galaxy, you know, have nine planets, 3:12:02.160 --> 3:12:04.959 like we're in the lefty planets. And then like how 3:12:05.040 --> 3:12:10.640 they they don't they don't. It's like how does this work? 3:12:10.920 --> 3:12:13.000 Like y'all sitting here and it's like where are they? 3:12:13.440 --> 3:12:16.680 They got all this type of alcohol liquor sitting on 3:12:16.760 --> 3:12:19.240 the table, Like how does this work? At shot? You 3:12:19.320 --> 3:12:22.400 know what a man about this? You've never seen this. 3:12:22.959 --> 3:12:25.160 We didn't get take for six months with CBS because 3:12:25.160 --> 3:12:30.480 they didn't know show on CBS Radio we Arry King, 3:12:31.879 --> 3:12:41.280 I don't know, yes, I can't. Yeah. They were showing 3:12:41.360 --> 3:12:45.080 us the charts and we was winning. But what we 3:12:45.200 --> 3:12:48.720 did sixty minutes and what we did it was so 3:12:49.240 --> 3:12:51.440 they tried to like and we were like, nah, we're 3:12:51.440 --> 3:12:53.760 gonna stick with the same ship, the same form with U. 3:12:54.400 --> 3:12:56.600 And like that's why I bring he brun it up. 3:12:56.680 --> 3:12:58.920 You bring it up. It's when we're all said there 3:12:58.959 --> 3:13:02.200 on y'all show, he said, Man, I did this ship 3:13:02.760 --> 3:13:10.680 a decade. Yeah, and I the difference between me and 3:13:10.840 --> 3:13:15.039 Roses I had. I did almost a decade and features 3:13:15.440 --> 3:13:17.600 and that really get to the money, not really getting 3:13:17.600 --> 3:13:19.640 the money. But when I got here, I only had 3:13:19.680 --> 3:13:24.360 eight months and I realized after that eight months, I 3:13:24.520 --> 3:13:27.320 knew how to turn it into what's my man said, 3:13:27.480 --> 3:13:32.840 um algorithms. I know that. I know what I said, 3:13:32.879 --> 3:13:36.800 Oh this is alright, but is gonna pay right here? 3:13:37.760 --> 3:13:40.440 That's gonna do right there? And it might have been 3:13:40.440 --> 3:13:44.640 a little Michael dollars, but it may at the end. 3:13:44.720 --> 3:13:48.840 It's like you know what you don't have, and you know, 3:13:49.000 --> 3:13:51.200 you know what, it's not about batting down. It's like, 3:13:51.400 --> 3:13:57.440 you know, if I put sixteen million, put six teams 3:13:59.600 --> 3:14:03.360 million in the stock market and it's conservative and it 3:14:03.480 --> 3:14:05.760 brings you back, you know, a couple of percent then 3:14:05.800 --> 3:14:09.039 I'm looking at a million dollars a year. So then 3:14:09.560 --> 3:14:12.600 what really is is it about the sixteen million ars? 3:14:12.640 --> 3:14:15.080 It about that money that my money is making me. 3:14:15.560 --> 3:14:18.440 So when you what you're talking about, I got this 3:14:18.640 --> 3:14:22.720 platform and I got blood wires over here, I got 3:14:22.840 --> 3:14:26.880 this person over here, and collectively it's bringing me in X. 3:14:27.120 --> 3:14:30.720 What's covering my lifetime, my lifestyle plus this, that's what 3:14:30.800 --> 3:14:36.520 that's about. The shot got them so two or three growing, 3:14:36.640 --> 3:14:41.000 and let's not forget we got I forgot him Colombia 3:14:41.000 --> 3:14:51.480 and white crazy. We got this is all black owned 3:14:52.200 --> 3:14:57.800 Jordan's I'm talking about. That's all black everything, all hands black. Yeah, 3:15:02.680 --> 3:15:05.240 we got a name for the hatline yet you know, 3:15:05.440 --> 3:15:07.440 so here's what Here's here's the deal. Like when we 3:15:07.560 --> 3:15:09.440 came together, like one of the things that we thought 3:15:09.480 --> 3:15:12.280 about and I'm still learning from North like Nordy, you know, 3:15:12.440 --> 3:15:15.000 like Bro really put me on game and I'm talking 3:15:15.000 --> 3:15:17.560 about thirty minutes like bang bang bang bang bang, Like 3:15:17.600 --> 3:15:19.440 this is new to me. I know, the wellness space. 3:15:19.879 --> 3:15:21.680 But when we came together, we it was like and 3:15:21.800 --> 3:15:24.680 he called it, you know, quarantine Dreams is like we 3:15:25.320 --> 3:15:27.400 all in the same neighborhood. Let's start this, let's see 3:15:27.440 --> 3:15:29.800 what happened. And now that we're studying the game and 3:15:29.840 --> 3:15:32.240 people who came before us, it's like every time he 3:15:32.360 --> 3:15:35.680 come on the show, he wearing hats every single time, 3:15:35.760 --> 3:15:37.960 and when he gets frustrated, you're gonna see him doing this. 3:15:40.120 --> 3:15:41.880 Then when you look at our lives chat and we 3:15:41.959 --> 3:15:45.800 got ten thousand people waiting to go when we launched 3:15:45.840 --> 3:15:49.360 our show, which is crazy for YouTube. Right, they're saying, 3:15:49.480 --> 3:15:52.879 what is Fred Taylor wearing? Like we want so yeah, 3:15:55.080 --> 3:16:01.199 we got, we got, we got sprints, we got collection 3:16:01.280 --> 3:16:04.280 come off and it's not like we're not trying to 3:16:04.360 --> 3:16:13.040 come out, We're not trying to take advantage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 3:16:13.520 --> 3:16:19.400 you got. We gotta we gotta take a shot. Drink, 3:16:19.959 --> 3:16:22.480 don't see then my homework drink And I wanted to 3:16:22.600 --> 3:16:27.000 emphaside built that show to you about like what I'm saying. 3:16:27.440 --> 3:16:32.040 You know, we'll drink each other, brands necessary, I'll do everything. 3:16:32.440 --> 3:16:36.480 I like it, No need like there's no cameral conversations 3:16:36.480 --> 3:16:41.600 you gotta keep bringing to man. Know what I'm saying 3:16:41.680 --> 3:16:44.680 is when I was watching, I was doing my homework 3:16:44.920 --> 3:16:46.840 because I want to make sure on one point, right, 3:16:47.320 --> 3:16:49.640 So when I was making sure that I knew a 3:16:49.720 --> 3:16:53.720 little bit about everybody said, he's talking about you on 3:16:53.760 --> 3:17:01.280 your work to cover you. I typed this myself and me, 3:17:03.879 --> 3:17:07.360 did you come every year? But I noticed that happen 3:17:08.480 --> 3:17:11.120 and I thought, my own ship. But this is Miami heat, 3:17:11.200 --> 3:17:13.520 this Miami heat. But I said, I want a Fred 3:17:13.560 --> 3:17:18.040 Taylor hat? Can I get a hat? See? But here's 3:17:18.080 --> 3:17:21.680 the thing is, you guys are creating value. Fred Nori 3:17:22.560 --> 3:17:27.440 uh drink to create people, people appreciate. Why why do 3:17:27.640 --> 3:17:30.840 I watch it? Why do I watch Drink Champs? Because 3:17:30.879 --> 3:17:32.760 like y'all got for real on the show, and I'm 3:17:32.840 --> 3:17:35.680 learning something. What can I learn from the people who 3:17:35.760 --> 3:17:38.200 come from where I come from, experience where I'm coming from. 3:17:38.240 --> 3:17:41.800 That when you're talking about you know, here's this, here's that, 3:17:41.959 --> 3:17:44.680 this is what we're supporting that I'm support it. That's 3:17:44.720 --> 3:17:46.840 why that makes sense to me. The advantage you guys 3:17:48.920 --> 3:17:50.680 for seven years to you was with a lot of 3:17:50.840 --> 3:17:56.560 people on a different corporations platform speaking NFL and inside 3:17:56.560 --> 3:17:59.360 of the NFL. It's not Drink Champs and drink said, 3:17:59.560 --> 3:18:02.120 motherfucker can not inside the NFL. But you got the 3:18:02.160 --> 3:18:05.320 experience and you said, you know what I got developed 3:18:05.360 --> 3:18:08.000 this into my own platform. Teach me that. You know 3:18:08.040 --> 3:18:10.920 who talks to me? Who taught me that all the 3:18:11.000 --> 3:18:24.920 smoke and drink chance? Listen, listen like, no, I'm being 3:18:24.959 --> 3:18:26.920 honest with but it's true. The thing about I've been 3:18:27.040 --> 3:18:31.560 I've been on inside seven years as an active without 3:18:31.600 --> 3:18:37.039 inside experience. Well, I think it developed when NFL you're 3:18:37.040 --> 3:18:39.560 still playing. I was the first active athlete to be 3:18:41.440 --> 3:18:43.400 So what I would do is what in the season. 3:18:43.520 --> 3:18:45.920 And this is why I end up leaving Chicago coming 3:18:45.959 --> 3:18:48.640 to the Jets, because they looked at me and said, yeah, 3:18:48.640 --> 3:18:50.120 they didn't they didn't look I was the first person 3:18:50.200 --> 3:18:51.800 ever do it. So they looked at me and they said, 3:18:52.080 --> 3:18:53.560 and this is to our point, like we gotta you. 3:18:53.920 --> 3:19:01.400 We hot actors, entertainers, rappers, musicians, athletes, got strike. You 3:19:01.520 --> 3:19:08.360 should have had this drink chance back in nineteen would 3:19:08.400 --> 3:19:10.440 have to say is that they came to me and 3:19:10.520 --> 3:19:13.760 they said, Brandon, we don't want you doing inside the NFL. 3:19:14.520 --> 3:19:16.440 You can't do that. We want you to focus all 3:19:16.520 --> 3:19:18.480 on football. And I looked at the owner and we 3:19:18.640 --> 3:19:21.480 was actually walking. It was it was like thirty degrees outside. 3:19:21.520 --> 3:19:24.960 We's walking from the indoor today Mr mccassy, the owner 3:19:24.959 --> 3:19:28.640 of the other facility of the of the Chicago Beers, 3:19:29.000 --> 3:19:32.040 and I looked out, I said, I said, I said, 3:19:32.160 --> 3:19:38.200 Mr McCaskey, dance. We have to stop the music, damn it. 3:19:38.240 --> 3:19:46.520 It's part of the show. Yeah, for real, like this, 3:19:46.640 --> 3:19:49.800 it's part of the form. This is dak Yeah. Right. 3:19:50.200 --> 3:19:52.120 So so I'm walking back with him out and he's 3:19:52.160 --> 3:19:54.480 telling me basically, we want you to only focus on Folko, 3:19:54.520 --> 3:19:57.760 I said, Mr mccassey, check this out, just like this real. 3:19:58.440 --> 3:20:01.200 I'm like, you guys own your family owned this team 3:20:01.240 --> 3:20:05.360 for how long? And I said, when I'm done, you 3:20:05.440 --> 3:20:08.720 guys were still on this team. It's amazing platform for y'all. 3:20:08.879 --> 3:20:11.000 I said, I got, what a couple more years to 3:20:11.240 --> 3:20:14.280 maximize my earnings and build something that can last longer. 3:20:14.560 --> 3:20:16.240 I said, right now is the time for me to 3:20:16.280 --> 3:20:30.800 start what I'm trying to do. What's up? Bro? Oh 3:20:31.160 --> 3:20:43.720 damn brother? How you know me? Bro? I boys said Brandon, Yeah, Bro, 3:20:43.879 --> 3:20:46.120 that's that's what's up. Bro. Like I always you know, 3:20:46.200 --> 3:20:48.600 I'm always taking it back when I run into a 3:20:48.720 --> 3:20:52.360 legend in the entertainment space and they know me, right, 3:20:52.440 --> 3:21:02.640 that's that's pretty dope. That Jets. What listen, what what 3:21:03.120 --> 3:21:05.200 were you talking about? Putting that that that green that 3:21:05.360 --> 3:21:08.000 Jets Norry just broke something. He had some breaking news. 3:21:08.040 --> 3:21:09.840 He was like, the only reason why he had Jets 3:21:09.879 --> 3:21:14.040 fan because the jersey was cheaper that his dad. That's 3:21:14.040 --> 3:21:16.360 the only thing is dad could afford. So what was 3:21:16.440 --> 3:21:22.280 doing Jets fans instead of a Giants fan? Oh? The 3:21:26.160 --> 3:21:37.440 respected respect spec answer Dan, that's the legend. Appreciate you. 3:21:37.800 --> 3:21:54.200 Yeah answer yeah, great, Yeah, we don't know you out 3:21:54.240 --> 3:22:08.080 here coming on next we fire fest. Yeah. I called 3:22:08.120 --> 3:22:10.360 it the best act. Like I said this on on 3:22:10.520 --> 3:22:13.280 Clubhouse the other day, Like why isn't everybody on the 3:22:13.280 --> 3:22:16.920 clubhouse down on? I car in my line that I 3:22:17.040 --> 3:22:18.920 call you and tell you I said that this nor 3:22:19.480 --> 3:22:21.920 it's the best cap of secret. They don't know nobody yet. 3:22:22.440 --> 3:22:25.400 Will We're gonna go our card, I car, tell us 3:22:25.440 --> 3:22:30.480 what to do, tell us we go through, Tell tell 3:22:30.640 --> 3:22:36.520 us what are doing? Any mic? Does it expire you? 3:22:36.920 --> 3:22:41.000 But I think clubhouse I can't reach, I can't reach. 3:22:41.800 --> 3:22:44.959 I don't like it. I see that. I'm gonna say, 3:22:45.680 --> 3:22:50.320 I'm gonna get n I c N just like that 3:22:51.959 --> 3:22:56.080 two twos. I see O N N bet all right, 3:22:58.879 --> 3:23:00.840 let me ask you a question. Let me ask you 3:23:00.879 --> 3:23:03.880 a question. Bro Let me ask you a question. Okay, 3:23:04.480 --> 3:23:07.960 this is real, right, you you fail on a on 3:23:08.080 --> 3:23:12.160 a on a on a like globally, like tell us 3:23:12.240 --> 3:23:14.520 the inspiration how you keep getting back up because a 3:23:14.520 --> 3:23:17.240 lot of people don't understand when you're entrepreneur, you know 3:23:17.400 --> 3:23:21.520 you you you only win one out of ten times, right, 3:23:21.920 --> 3:23:25.160 so like now you icon is next and you keep pushing, 3:23:25.240 --> 3:23:27.640 We're gonna go back to the festival all of that. 3:23:30.160 --> 3:23:32.080 You know what I'm saying to you my my last 3:23:32.160 --> 3:23:34.440 question and I'm I'm I'm a landed plan on past 3:23:34.520 --> 3:23:38.920 the phone, but like I think people need to hear, right, 3:23:39.120 --> 3:23:41.959 you know what I'm saying our stories on how perseverance, 3:23:42.440 --> 3:23:44.920 Like you know you you you won at the highest level. 3:23:45.000 --> 3:23:48.000 You also you also you also have some els, so 3:23:48.200 --> 3:23:49.920 like how do you get up? And then now we're 3:23:49.959 --> 3:23:53.800 talking about icon, right, so talk to us about you know, 3:23:53.879 --> 3:23:58.240 that inspiration and that perseverance because as an entrepreneur, because 3:23:58.240 --> 3:24:00.280 we're all trying to start something, we all start trying 3:24:00.320 --> 3:24:03.440 to trying to launch our brands, and people don't understand 3:24:03.560 --> 3:24:07.680 that you only win one out of ten times. Yeah, 3:24:07.959 --> 3:24:10.240 that's what people don't understand. You know, I'll get some 3:24:10.320 --> 3:24:12.039 of the stuff to saying because breaking up a little bit. 3:24:12.040 --> 3:24:14.280 But I think that's just what you're saying that you know, 3:24:14.480 --> 3:24:18.640 failures and going onto you so you know, you know, Phil, 3:24:18.720 --> 3:24:22.120 you only brings you to your next best thing? He 3:24:22.200 --> 3:24:24.280 said fail He said, failure only brings you to your 3:24:24.360 --> 3:24:31.680 next best thing. Yeah, it's like you like and you 3:24:31.720 --> 3:24:35.119 can't who every day. You know what I'm saying, dude, 3:24:35.160 --> 3:24:38.680 You know you play your whole career hoping you in 3:24:38.760 --> 3:24:44.560 one of them, right right? You pless well with hopes 3:24:44.600 --> 3:24:46.560 saying with whole saying with hold say he said you 3:24:46.640 --> 3:24:48.800 only gotta be one, You only gotta be right one one. 3:24:50.240 --> 3:24:53.480 That's that's you only right one? And what the whole 3:24:53.520 --> 3:24:56.520 also said, This genius thing they do is adn't you 3:24:56.760 --> 3:25:03.880 U if that against the wall and you know there's 3:25:03.959 --> 3:25:06.680 nothing else to do but fight and go forward. Yeah, 3:25:06.920 --> 3:25:09.720 you got legend because for some people that's a hard thing. 3:25:10.320 --> 3:25:14.040 Some people rather lay down the job, you understand, But listen, Yeah, 3:25:14.120 --> 3:25:17.400 I rather I got down my feet and motherfuck you 3:25:17.480 --> 3:25:27.320 live on my knee. Yeah, let y'all love bro. Tomorrow 3:25:27.480 --> 3:25:33.320 you're doing drink at tomorrow we're doing see you know 3:25:33.400 --> 3:25:40.160 what a no this is y'all go for three hours 3:25:40.320 --> 3:25:46.560 and four only. It's classic. Let me just tell yourself, 3:25:46.600 --> 3:25:49.200 so so tell me why y'all said for real? Was 3:25:49.320 --> 3:25:52.600 like like that was like was that the was that 3:25:52.760 --> 3:25:55.560 the best show? And was that defining moment for drink out? 3:25:57.080 --> 3:25:59.440 Why we have different perspectives? You go ahead, all right, 3:26:00.120 --> 3:26:06.280 what happens is last year two years ago was we 3:26:09.280 --> 3:26:12.800 we've been pressure cleaning outside just that fariver, we we 3:26:13.120 --> 3:26:19.360 pressure cleaning right now to a show called rat Radar. 3:26:20.280 --> 3:26:26.119 You will haven't say it again to a show called 3:26:26.240 --> 3:26:30.120 rat Radar. I mean, I don't really compared to it. 3:26:30.240 --> 3:26:35.360 But last year I felt like we whipped the ass 3:26:36.480 --> 3:26:40.560 like everything, and then not not this year. Come on 3:26:40.720 --> 3:26:45.440 last year and then at the the end they had drake. 3:26:47.120 --> 3:26:55.440 I feel like, damn they won with the end of 3:26:55.480 --> 3:27:01.959 the year. So this year they actually gratefully bowed out 3:27:02.120 --> 3:27:11.560 because of COVID. You came out and everything, and then 3:27:12.000 --> 3:27:14.640 right at the end of the year, we didn't plan it. 3:27:14.879 --> 3:27:17.160 We didn't plan it was for rell like for all, 3:27:17.320 --> 3:27:20.959 like you know, it was like seven times you cancel 3:27:21.160 --> 3:27:26.960 right every time when people cancel on us. No, no, 3:27:27.120 --> 3:27:32.280 we've been here and people cancel waiting because that's all 3:27:32.320 --> 3:27:34.480 we need to hear though that and that is the 3:27:34.560 --> 3:27:37.480 most hurtful thing that was happening. Let me just say 3:27:37.560 --> 3:27:39.879 something to think about it. You can't take it personally. 3:27:40.080 --> 3:27:44.080 You can't don't take it personally. You can't take it 3:27:44.120 --> 3:27:47.680 person over the next day you shout, But there about 3:27:47.720 --> 3:27:51.400 it is this. I'm not a radio station. So when 3:27:52.080 --> 3:27:57.280 I set up, I setting up for you, right, this 3:27:57.480 --> 3:28:01.039 artist is all right, what's his name? Why you close? 3:28:03.800 --> 3:28:11.080 Placific not drinking that again? You want to drinks? Ye? 3:28:11.720 --> 3:28:16.000 I don't like you Pacific and Civil was late? He 3:28:16.120 --> 3:28:18.560 doesn't you No, no, no, you paid you paid the 3:28:18.640 --> 3:28:25.680 camera man. You paid the same. This is everything outside, 3:28:26.640 --> 3:28:32.360 So if you don't show up, it's our look from 3:28:32.560 --> 3:28:37.080 the spinning on you. Though. And this is why, specifically 3:28:37.800 --> 3:28:42.439 this conversation is so amazing. Here's the problem. Where athletes 3:28:42.720 --> 3:28:46.160 did it at the highest level, entertainers did at the 3:28:46.240 --> 3:28:49.800 highest level. Game taken away from you. Your mike is 3:28:49.840 --> 3:28:52.440 taken away from you. Now you gotta start from the bottom, 3:28:52.600 --> 3:28:55.760 and you gotta call that person you called me, No 3:28:55.920 --> 3:29:01.600 assistant called me. Right, there's so but here's the game though, 3:29:02.080 --> 3:29:04.040 Like how do you go from being at the top 3:29:04.120 --> 3:29:06.480 of the game and traveling the world going to dude 3:29:06.760 --> 3:29:11.760 do dolls of Dorf, Germany. So so now you call, 3:29:11.959 --> 3:29:14.600 you don't want calling, you don't want paying this person. 3:29:14.800 --> 3:29:17.560 Like literally, I'm gonna zail you. I'm gonna I'm gonna 3:29:17.560 --> 3:29:19.920 give you this a check. That's the thing, is like 3:29:20.040 --> 3:29:22.320 why most guys don't make it to the next level 3:29:22.360 --> 3:29:24.320 because they can't get off that hard, hot horse. They 3:29:24.320 --> 3:29:27.160 can't get off that pedestal. You called for real seven 3:29:27.240 --> 3:29:31.280 times because you answered back, yeah, but that's cool. But 3:29:31.440 --> 3:29:33.720 but you gotta understand, though, you gotta be willing to 3:29:34.160 --> 3:29:36.960 humble yourself and come back, like you go from the 3:29:37.000 --> 3:29:40.040 mountaintop to the valley, and now you're making the calls 3:29:40.240 --> 3:29:42.600 and now you gotta say, you know what, he canceled 3:29:42.640 --> 3:29:44.760 on me the third time, but I'm gonna call him again. 3:29:50.480 --> 3:29:57.160 Let me do it as a wrapper. This is not 3:29:58.240 --> 3:30:03.959 as a rapper. Carass told me being told no, it's good, 3:30:08.320 --> 3:30:10.760 I did not understand that. I wanted to kick him 3:30:15.360 --> 3:30:17.640 me and me and told no it was good. But 3:30:17.760 --> 3:30:20.600 he's like your certain people might not know who the 3:30:20.720 --> 3:30:25.440 funk you are so if they tell you no, that's 3:30:25.480 --> 3:30:29.760 actually cool because there's people that's gonna say like that's that. 3:30:29.879 --> 3:30:32.320 That's the reason why I broke up Tom Brady earlier 3:30:32.560 --> 3:30:35.480 with Antonio Brown. It's just almost like this is like 3:30:35.600 --> 3:30:43.160 some gang ship to me, almost gangish. Brady said, you 3:30:43.240 --> 3:30:47.560 ain't sucking with me, ain't gonna pay me? Yeah, I'm 3:30:47.600 --> 3:30:54.480 gonna hire because the Patriots didn't want to higher. But 3:30:54.640 --> 3:30:57.640 Tom Brady fell in love with him. Yeah, let him 3:30:57.680 --> 3:31:02.600 stay in his crib. He was bringing a wherever he 3:31:02.640 --> 3:31:08.320 went bas gangster ship. So you like Tom now, yeah, 3:31:10.920 --> 3:31:15.040 in my mind he got gold teeth yea in my mind. 3:31:16.160 --> 3:31:18.600 In my mind he went to us a free market 3:31:20.480 --> 3:31:24.280 and the like let me tell you something, bro, And 3:31:24.400 --> 3:31:27.560 he brought his man grown to like what you say. Yeah, 3:31:27.600 --> 3:31:32.960 he was tired that year. If that's not holy ship, Like, 3:31:33.160 --> 3:31:39.320 look look at all we're guilty. What do I do? 3:31:39.360 --> 3:31:41.400 You want to show how we're guilty? Let me show 3:31:41.440 --> 3:31:43.760 you how we go show me. We have the same 3:31:43.840 --> 3:31:50.560 show called militym I don't know that true. Behind it 3:31:50.680 --> 3:31:54.000 didn't work. It didn't work, No, no, it didn't work, 3:31:54.320 --> 3:32:00.200 don't you We didn't want it to keep it going right, No, Brot, 3:32:00.520 --> 3:32:03.640 we just stopped doing it. We did not want to 3:32:03.720 --> 3:32:05.680 do it. We stopped doing it because you went on 3:32:05.840 --> 3:32:11.800 tour and I went on to me. We just didn't 3:32:11.840 --> 3:32:19.879 make We didn't make a dime off of that. But right, okay, 3:32:20.400 --> 3:32:24.840 what we're doing? Uh huh, what's the point I was 3:32:24.840 --> 3:32:29.000 trying to make. I have no idea you were saying 3:32:29.120 --> 3:32:33.760 like like left people behind or you weren't Tom Brady 3:32:34.160 --> 3:32:39.640 Brady ship, that's what you had, Tom, but like he 3:32:39.800 --> 3:32:52.480 got grills another like rock and then you know everybody 3:32:55.560 --> 3:33:04.560 in the Antonio, Yeah, you was sent especially because now 3:33:04.760 --> 3:33:08.760 granted it is his white privilege that lets him bring 3:33:08.920 --> 3:33:12.879 a trouble black player to a team. Yes, because a black, 3:33:12.959 --> 3:33:19.280 a black quarterback would not be able to say the 3:33:19.360 --> 3:33:25.000 available asset to fill his back, my mama, A black 3:33:25.080 --> 3:33:27.120 quarterback will not be able to say, yo, I know 3:33:27.360 --> 3:33:32.320 my man's is crazy. But to do that, absolutely, I 3:33:32.640 --> 3:33:36.840 don't think so. Because he it didn't happen right right, 3:33:37.080 --> 3:33:43.199 he know he was there. She's about before she actually 3:33:43.240 --> 3:33:45.320 got there. We've been in those discussions and it just 3:33:46.480 --> 3:33:49.320 do what he did, you know, Russell Russell, Russell want 3:33:49.440 --> 3:33:51.720 whoever the top dog isn't gonna come in and help 3:33:52.120 --> 3:33:55.080 and Russell. Before I actually got there, we were talking 3:33:55.600 --> 3:33:59.720 general manager, FaceTime and head coach, and Russell's like, I 3:33:59.800 --> 3:34:02.800 want this guy, and they're like, come back. I don't 3:34:02.800 --> 3:34:04.600 think it's a good fit. I don't think it's a 3:34:04.640 --> 3:34:07.440 good fit. Now. When the Giants cut me, then the 3:34:07.480 --> 3:34:10.200 Seattle Seahawks slid as a deal and they then they 3:34:10.280 --> 3:34:13.520 brought me in. Now, she's right what she's saying, but 3:34:14.000 --> 3:34:18.400 I pushed the conversation forward. You know, it's got this 3:34:18.480 --> 3:34:21.720 word out there called nepotism. Nepotism is like when you 3:34:21.879 --> 3:34:25.800 get on, basically put your people on right. So you 3:34:25.879 --> 3:34:29.920 know why when other people get on and they put 3:34:30.000 --> 3:34:32.880 their people on, why we can't do that because when 3:34:32.959 --> 3:34:37.440 we mess up with the whole race is held against us. So, 3:34:37.680 --> 3:34:39.920 as a black woman lawyer, when I came to the NFL, 3:34:40.360 --> 3:34:44.920 if I would have been not good or dishonest, they 3:34:44.920 --> 3:34:47.240 would have been like, that's why we can't hire anybody 3:34:47.280 --> 3:34:49.720 from an ABC. She went to Hampton. We don't know 3:34:49.800 --> 3:35:03.040 that school. We got to go back to ye. But 3:35:03.160 --> 3:35:07.000 that's that's real, right, So when we mess up, our 3:35:07.120 --> 3:35:09.960 whole race has to pay for it. White people don't 3:35:10.000 --> 3:35:12.600 have that concern. So they'll put on their cousin, they'll 3:35:12.600 --> 3:35:14.879 put on their best friend that probably is not qualified 3:35:14.920 --> 3:35:17.280 for the job, because what they do know is that 3:35:17.680 --> 3:35:20.800 if Billy doesn't work out, you're not gonna say never 3:35:20.959 --> 3:35:24.720 hire a white person again. When Brandon doesn't work out. 3:35:25.000 --> 3:35:28.280 What you're gonna say is we just we just cannot. 3:35:28.600 --> 3:35:30.840 We have to be really more strategic about the schools 3:35:30.840 --> 3:35:34.120 we recruit from. We have that problem. Now. Granted we 3:35:34.160 --> 3:35:36.800 shouldn't feed into that, but that's real. So when I 3:35:36.959 --> 3:35:40.480 put someone on from Hampton or Family or another HBCU, 3:35:41.120 --> 3:35:43.720 I literally look at them and say, whatever you do, 3:35:44.720 --> 3:35:46.800 everyone that comes from where you come from will pay 3:35:46.879 --> 3:35:49.320 for it. We just qualified, just to be easy to say, 3:35:49.520 --> 3:35:55.200 absolutely absolutely, but still whatever I do. So when I 3:35:55.360 --> 3:35:57.920 came to the NFL and I busted my ass and 3:35:58.360 --> 3:36:01.040 the executives fell in love with me, there now are 3:36:01.160 --> 3:36:05.080 way more HBCU alumni at the National Football League from 3:36:05.120 --> 3:36:07.800 when I was there. But that's because of me, right 3:36:08.080 --> 3:36:14.960 if I would have sucked that up. See, this is 3:36:15.000 --> 3:36:16.840 why we need Ivy League. We really have, you know. 3:36:17.240 --> 3:36:19.200 But because I came in there and I'm like, I 3:36:19.320 --> 3:36:21.920 went to Hampton. I went to family law, and I 3:36:22.080 --> 3:36:25.040 know my ship, and guess what, I can look at 3:36:25.080 --> 3:36:28.959 some creative and tell you that's offensive, right, like how 3:36:29.080 --> 3:36:32.320 you're how you are marketing Antonio Brown. So I used 3:36:32.360 --> 3:36:37.000 to review creative and we were currently finding Antonio Brown 3:36:37.160 --> 3:36:39.800 for all of his celebrations. So he was getting fined 3:36:39.879 --> 3:36:43.920 every time. But then if I look at the commercials 3:36:43.959 --> 3:36:48.520 that I'm reviewing, they're showing him dancing. So we're making 3:36:48.640 --> 3:36:51.880 money off of his celebrations, but then we're also taking 3:36:51.920 --> 3:36:55.800 money out of his pocket for the same celebrations. I'm 3:36:55.879 --> 3:37:00.080 the only black person on the email chain rights. So 3:37:00.200 --> 3:37:02.200 when I talked about when you get into the room, 3:37:02.480 --> 3:37:04.280 how do you use your seat, how do you use 3:37:04.320 --> 3:37:06.600 your position? I knew that if I didn't call it out, 3:37:06.640 --> 3:37:08.879 nobody else would. And so I said, so you're saying 3:37:09.040 --> 3:37:12.760 so you're saying, they're saying an Tonio Brown scores a touchdown, 3:37:13.120 --> 3:37:16.760 he do the dances. The NFL says, this is against 3:37:16.840 --> 3:37:20.400 the shield what we stand for. You gotta pay finding. 3:37:22.000 --> 3:37:26.680 But then the sponsors in the taking that and they 3:37:26.720 --> 3:37:30.000 are now using that as commercial. Three years ago, Antonio 3:37:30.000 --> 3:37:32.080 Brown was in his prime. There was you could not 3:37:32.200 --> 3:37:35.240 watch TV without saying a commercial with Antonio Brown and 3:37:35.320 --> 3:37:44.680 he was on a covered man exactly most of those 3:37:44.720 --> 3:37:55.599 celebrations he was fined for. But but yet I loves 3:37:55.760 --> 3:37:57.760 are making money off of that, and the NFL is 3:37:57.760 --> 3:38:00.280 anybody making money after that? I could not sit and 3:38:00.360 --> 3:38:03.880 watch a black man be fine for something that the 3:38:03.959 --> 3:38:07.480 white corporators making money off. What was the reaction to 3:38:07.600 --> 3:38:09.720 you saying that? How did that get correct him? Or 3:38:09.800 --> 3:38:13.440 did it? What could they say? I said, how can 3:38:13.560 --> 3:38:17.000 we promote something that we're finding the same player for? 3:38:18.040 --> 3:38:25.080 And they said, you right, what happened they did? They 3:38:27.480 --> 3:38:30.039 did not use the same creator. We're more, we are more, 3:38:30.360 --> 3:38:33.920 And I would say, and it might be because it 3:38:33.959 --> 3:38:36.080 didn't find him, but not do the creator. No, the 3:38:36.320 --> 3:38:38.360 find had already happened, right, So the fine type of 3:38:38.360 --> 3:38:40.720 about football team. So you know what I did? I said, 3:38:41.280 --> 3:38:44.200 every commercial that Antonio Brown is in, we need to 3:38:44.320 --> 3:38:47.039 send it to the same department that is finding him. 3:38:47.520 --> 3:38:50.000 And if they don't sign off, if they don't sign off, 3:38:50.240 --> 3:38:52.280 then we can't use it in our creative because what 3:38:52.400 --> 3:38:54.800 we're not gonna do is eat off of the same 3:38:54.959 --> 3:38:57.640 thing that we're finding him for. So we're taking money 3:38:57.680 --> 3:39:02.520 off of this black man. Y yeah, yea yeah, and 3:39:02.640 --> 3:39:10.160 that and that you're doing and not to change what 3:39:10.320 --> 3:39:14.640 we're doing. That's a change going back to them. But 3:39:15.120 --> 3:39:18.440 that's what happens when so when we criticize people for 3:39:18.560 --> 3:39:20.960 working for the man, we want people to work for 3:39:21.040 --> 3:39:23.920 the man because if we're not in those rooms, it's 3:39:23.920 --> 3:39:26.360 going to continue to happen. You want, you want, you 3:39:26.440 --> 3:39:29.160 want a few that are in those rooms making If 3:39:29.240 --> 3:39:33.080 there was no Troy Vincent, can you you don't even 3:39:33.120 --> 3:39:35.160 know where the NFL would be. I got a better one. 3:39:36.040 --> 3:39:42.240 What about because jay Z he got criticized for because entertainment, 3:39:42.280 --> 3:39:46.160 not because he's a political but no, no, no, yeah right, 3:39:46.480 --> 3:39:48.680 And there's a lot of people like how like Caps 3:39:48.720 --> 3:39:51.520 not in the league. Wise jay Z sitting at the 3:39:51.600 --> 3:39:54.080 table with the commissioner and making this type of deal 3:39:54.560 --> 3:39:58.120 and me I'm sitting back like, well, first again, jay 3:39:58.240 --> 3:40:01.240 Z showing us why he's genius. To her point, if 3:40:01.280 --> 3:40:03.360 we don't have jay Z in the room, then we're 3:40:03.400 --> 3:40:05.920 not gonna have someone having that discussion. But it shouldn't 3:40:05.920 --> 3:40:16.320 be an athlete or an entertaining matter to And I 3:40:16.360 --> 3:40:18.560 don't care if you if you come if I'm getting 3:40:18.560 --> 3:40:20.840 in the room because I got barbs. I don't care 3:40:20.840 --> 3:40:23.280 if I'm getting the room because I got how many followers, 3:40:23.920 --> 3:40:26.240 it don't matter. But when I get in that room, 3:40:26.320 --> 3:40:28.720 to her point, and she always says, this were in 3:40:28.840 --> 3:40:32.520 my dorm, how am I representing us? Right? And that's 3:40:32.560 --> 3:40:35.600 why you know, for me, when jay Z did that deal, 3:40:35.640 --> 3:40:39.440 I said, it's genius because now jay Z could potentially 3:40:39.520 --> 3:40:42.040 be the reason why we see the first black owner 3:40:42.080 --> 3:40:44.480 in the NFL. He could ask you something. I'm sorry, 3:40:44.520 --> 3:40:47.680 I'm so sorry to cut you off, but how was 3:40:47.800 --> 3:40:52.160 your relationship you am for uh, the relationship will probably, 3:40:52.600 --> 3:40:55.240 but that was like an open relationship, like you could 3:40:55.400 --> 3:40:58.720 could you call him? I can call you what you call. 3:40:58.959 --> 3:41:02.160 Let me see if I can face time Roger and yeah, 3:41:06.920 --> 3:41:08.400 because I ain't like you. You know what I'm saying, 3:41:08.440 --> 3:41:14.880 he super let me try to FaceTime. We have someone 3:41:15.000 --> 3:41:18.200 season one, they called her uncle Rob because because we 3:41:18.640 --> 3:41:23.120 talked to him and he picked up. But now I said, 3:41:23.360 --> 3:41:27.640 that's my thing with him. You know, he know I 3:41:27.680 --> 3:41:29.080 ain't even call me. I'm aout that I'm aout that 3:41:29.080 --> 3:41:31.120 I'm about the trial right now. But you know, we 3:41:31.200 --> 3:41:34.200 asked about the relationship. You know, I think it's you know, 3:41:34.400 --> 3:41:36.560 it depends on what type of discussion we're having, because 3:41:36.640 --> 3:41:39.119 I look at it as a business. As a business, 3:41:39.560 --> 3:41:41.119 you know, this is we're talking about a ten billion 3:41:41.120 --> 3:41:45.160 dollar industry. We're talking about multimillion dollar athletes. So when 3:41:45.200 --> 3:41:47.680 you're a CEO, sometimes we gotta make the hard decision. 3:41:47.959 --> 3:41:49.760 You gotta think about how do we win now, and 3:41:49.840 --> 3:41:52.480 then how do we also win in ten years. Right, 3:41:52.720 --> 3:41:56.200 So Roger Cadell, you know, like we don't always agree 3:41:56.240 --> 3:41:58.560 with him, and to me, like I don't pick up 3:41:58.600 --> 3:41:59.959 the phone and I would say, like I don't agree 3:42:00.040 --> 3:42:02.320 with that move you just made. I'll get on showtime 3:42:02.400 --> 3:42:04.320 inside the NFL no matter what, and like I don't 3:42:04.360 --> 3:42:06.520 agree what he said. But at the end of the day, 3:42:06.560 --> 3:42:08.840 I was like, hey, look here's the situation. Is how 3:42:08.879 --> 3:42:11.160 I feel, but this is what I think we should do. 3:42:11.600 --> 3:42:13.520 And he listens. And then at the same time I 3:42:13.560 --> 3:42:15.640 also said, hey, I'm doing this. I'm doing this fund raise. 3:42:15.640 --> 3:42:18.160 I'm trying to raise five thousand dollars just playing pinkbone. 3:42:18.200 --> 3:42:22.280 When you come, I'm there. And he also writes a check. Right, So, 3:42:22.520 --> 3:42:25.960 like I had thirty two bosses, like people don't realize 3:42:26.520 --> 3:42:30.160 he not everybody like er. He works for the owners. 3:42:31.840 --> 3:42:35.880 He works for the owners. Do you think your good 3:42:36.360 --> 3:42:39.960 I mean that people literally want to indict Roger Goodell, 3:42:40.160 --> 3:42:43.840 and I don't think they understand how complex the NFL is. Right, 3:42:44.280 --> 3:42:46.520 he has to go into a room with thirty two 3:42:46.600 --> 3:42:49.720 people and say what do you want to do? And 3:42:49.800 --> 3:42:51.480 guess what He's gonna take all the heat for it. 3:42:51.879 --> 3:43:02.800 He answer smart, and he's smart everything the comany. He 3:43:02.959 --> 3:43:04.960 wasn't making a lot of the decisions he had. He 3:43:05.160 --> 3:43:08.040 was taking phone calls from thirty two owners every day 3:43:08.879 --> 3:43:13.120 and figuring out what is a month? Y'all right? So 3:43:13.640 --> 3:43:16.920 that's him as a person, and him and the leaders 3:43:17.560 --> 3:43:24.879 get that, Sigguard, I'm sorry, said they're chatting, they tested 3:43:25.040 --> 3:43:29.280 anymore anyway, We won't get you the world where because 3:43:29.280 --> 3:43:37.000 you're like laying four years. What am I missing? Because 3:43:37.000 --> 3:43:42.240 I don't smokes, just missing enlightenment and enlightening men on 3:43:42.440 --> 3:43:51.240 conversation and overall's perspective of everybody's intuition of facts. Pressip 3:43:51.640 --> 3:44:00.560 lead on me. Yeah, I just said short drink Champ. 3:44:00.720 --> 3:44:04.200 But there's a smoke chance, I see the Keith smoke chance. Yes, 3:44:04.520 --> 3:44:07.400 heavy heavy percentage. Just so you know, we got the 3:44:07.480 --> 3:44:11.840 new Smoke Chans podcast coming out. Um Chin being young 3:44:11.959 --> 3:44:19.480 really might move induce coming out. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 3:44:19.480 --> 3:44:23.000 I got to continue Smoke Champs. Let's take take your 3:44:23.040 --> 3:44:39.200 time ship. No, but listen the day I'm looking at 3:44:39.240 --> 3:44:42.039 the brand. At the end of the day, I want 3:44:42.080 --> 3:44:48.480 to do my shameless block drink Chaps salt salutely salute. 3:44:49.360 --> 3:44:52.840 You know he's got a cook his hat dog. We 3:44:52.959 --> 3:44:56.680 got smoke Champs coming out, we just announced that. But 3:44:57.520 --> 3:45:02.240 for y'all podcast, we would like to take control of 3:45:02.320 --> 3:45:06.480 the audience. You know what I mean. And this this 3:45:06.720 --> 3:45:09.879 you know, Drink Champs network. This is what we're doing. 3:45:09.959 --> 3:45:14.880 We live out here, Network Networks. It will be a 3:45:14.959 --> 3:45:18.039 new summer. Just the audio. You do whatever you want 3:45:18.080 --> 3:45:33.320 to do with what show time let me do just 3:45:34.320 --> 3:45:40.920 said everybody every other is whatever you could do it. 3:45:41.320 --> 3:45:44.280 But the audios that because you can still sell it 3:45:44.360 --> 3:45:47.760 to show TI still sell to Amazon. We know the game, 3:45:49.280 --> 3:45:55.680 so letsigate you don't know it. We here, yeah, we 3:45:55.920 --> 3:46:01.920 gag ya ya ya. Athletes entertainers out there right now, 3:46:02.040 --> 3:46:05.080 start to podcast right now. I'm gonna tell you something. 3:46:05.080 --> 3:46:07.360 I'm gonna tell you something as much as drink chance 3:46:07.440 --> 3:46:11.720 has been successful, as much as whatever. But I will 3:46:12.000 --> 3:46:18.240 never under estimate the fucking driver's people who drive fed 3:46:18.360 --> 3:46:22.680 Ex trucks, people who drive the ups trucks, people who 3:46:22.800 --> 3:46:28.000 drive the fucking Carmen Sherman trucks with the soft tissue. 3:46:28.520 --> 3:46:35.360 What guy has you know the Carmen ship com he 3:46:35.840 --> 3:46:56.480 Carmen Herman. I'm just like, I don't know whatever that 3:46:56.640 --> 3:47:04.400 ship's harmon, ship is off the Sherman. It's tough to 3:47:04.440 --> 3:47:14.959 shout out to all of them, but that's what we're 3:47:14.959 --> 3:47:19.920 all taking control of. Construct We are trying. That's beautiful. 3:47:20.240 --> 3:47:22.200 You can't lose if you build it all your own terms. 3:47:22.959 --> 3:47:25.640 By the way, if this ship doesn't work out, with 3:47:25.920 --> 3:47:31.200 your ship, with your ship, we worked out what you're 3:47:31.200 --> 3:47:35.160 doing on your own terms. You never you never in 3:47:35.200 --> 3:47:42.160 the network twenty seven years. So what happens is like, 3:47:42.280 --> 3:47:44.680 what made you like that? I guess my question for 3:47:44.760 --> 3:47:48.160 you is, it's like, you know, we talked about my 3:47:48.280 --> 3:47:51.840 experience and how I transition. Channing talked a lot about it. 3:47:53.760 --> 3:47:57.600 So how did you go from rapping to this to 3:47:57.720 --> 3:47:59.880 a point where like people look at like, oh, you know, 3:48:00.160 --> 3:48:02.280 drinks and all of this other stuff. But this is 3:48:02.360 --> 3:48:04.280 really like the business behind it. A lot of people 3:48:04.320 --> 3:48:10.280 don't understand because eventually, I think that rappers should never 3:48:10.520 --> 3:48:13.280 signed to a record label, Rappers should never sounded to 3:48:13.320 --> 3:48:17.480 a company, Rappers should dropped their albums on their own podcasts, right, 3:48:18.000 --> 3:48:20.640 but you should only like this thing about it. Right. 3:48:21.000 --> 3:48:24.920 Let's suppose that you was playing with the Texans. What's 3:48:24.959 --> 3:48:29.560 the oilers that was back in the days, right, but 3:48:29.640 --> 3:48:34.200 they didn't you know, they don't exist no more. Let's right, 3:48:34.360 --> 3:48:38.360 Let's suppose the US oilers and you dropped the album 3:48:38.640 --> 3:48:41.960 just for the Houston oilers. You dropped the sweatsuit just 3:48:42.040 --> 3:48:47.480 for the Houston oilersts. You should be a billionaire just 3:48:47.800 --> 3:48:50.640 all for Houston. Yeah, we'll explaining to us because a 3:48:50.640 --> 3:48:52.720 lot of people don't understand that. And I feel like 3:48:52.800 --> 3:48:54.960 we like me. A lot of people come to y'all 3:48:55.080 --> 3:48:57.080 and listen to y'all because y'all what we learned that, 3:48:57.320 --> 3:48:59.800 whether it's through YouTube or the guests on the Shafts, 3:49:00.080 --> 3:49:02.880 I don't know if you noticed, no learned a lot. No, No, 3:49:03.040 --> 3:49:05.480 that's really though, right, like because get him into the 3:49:05.520 --> 3:49:13.280 show before we do. I don't we don't trust think 3:49:13.280 --> 3:49:16.160 about where we come from. We don't trust. So if 3:49:16.280 --> 3:49:18.680 I know this man came from where I came from 3:49:18.960 --> 3:49:21.640 and he tried to put me on game, yeah, I'm 3:49:21.640 --> 3:49:23.880 gonna listening to him more than I'm listening to this dude. 3:49:24.360 --> 3:49:27.560 He's talking about like the stock market, etcetera, etcetera, or whatever. 3:49:28.080 --> 3:49:30.400 Like the thing is, I'm expecting him and he has 3:49:30.440 --> 3:49:39.000 a responsibility to really tell me, like what's right for me. Now, 3:49:39.000 --> 3:49:43.120 I know where you're going, but that's what we have 3:49:43.400 --> 3:49:49.080 to understand our market, and we'll understand our market. That's 3:49:49.120 --> 3:49:58.520 just our market. We can't lose. We can't lose. Actually explain, yeah, 3:49:58.600 --> 3:50:02.840 no wait, I'm no always for you to go keep going. Yeah, yeah, 3:50:02.840 --> 3:50:04.880 we need you to go, and spound on that I 3:50:04.960 --> 3:50:08.040 always should look at Texas. I said, why would a 3:50:08.120 --> 3:50:13.920 Texas artists promote outside of Texas? Texas has like you 3:50:13.960 --> 3:50:26.560 can go platinum in Texas, you literally in Texas. That's 3:50:26.640 --> 3:50:32.200 exactly how I always thought about it. So what happened 3:50:32.280 --> 3:50:37.520 was when I did a podcast. Yeah, and told me 3:50:37.600 --> 3:50:40.760 to do a podcast five years prior to I wanted 3:50:40.800 --> 3:50:43.640 to do a podcast, But when I actually did it 3:50:43.760 --> 3:50:54.040 and I saw the algorithms, Yeah, made me feel like 3:50:54.080 --> 3:51:00.240 I'm smart. I'm not smart, but when I saw yeah, yeah, 3:51:04.000 --> 3:51:12.080 and it's a big part of him because he's not 3:51:12.200 --> 3:51:17.320 gonna change, he's not gonna die. His bid effect that 3:51:19.640 --> 3:51:23.960 I'm not going to do it, but that integrity said, 3:51:24.000 --> 3:51:28.560 you know what, let's keep it the same, ye not 3:51:28.840 --> 3:51:34.560 never try to cater day to anything. Let's keep the 3:51:35.000 --> 3:51:39.480 same unapologized funk with us then cool, Yeah, but they 3:51:39.520 --> 3:51:43.320 don't funk with us. We don't want the money. We're 3:51:43.360 --> 3:51:47.120 going out the same way we came. We came in 3:51:47.280 --> 3:51:52.320 not expecting anything. We didn't anything. Let's just do what 3:51:52.520 --> 3:51:55.720 we have fun doing. Even what you're doing though, right, 3:51:55.800 --> 3:51:59.800 Like Brandon is unapologetic about House of Athletes because literally 3:52:00.160 --> 3:52:02.920 everything that we say, he lives it and believes it. 3:52:03.600 --> 3:52:06.920 So he could give two ships if somebody doesn't like it, right, 3:52:07.080 --> 3:52:10.200 because he literally lives this and believes that this is 3:52:10.280 --> 3:52:12.440 the key to success, to be healthy and to be 3:52:12.600 --> 3:52:16.000 well and to be great. So y'all feel the same way. 3:52:16.640 --> 3:52:19.280 So when you're you can you can literally be okay 3:52:19.760 --> 3:52:23.960 with losing money and leaving money on the table. The 3:52:24.040 --> 3:52:35.440 principal eight months, we still lose money, Yeah, I mean 3:52:35.520 --> 3:52:37.640 we make money. Don't get me wrong, but we lose 3:52:37.720 --> 3:52:42.560 money way because they're just taking that check. Yeah, we're 3:52:42.600 --> 3:52:46.240 just we're not compromising anything, but you're not talking about 3:52:46.440 --> 3:52:48.720 and hold it out. Yeah, but talk about why y'all 3:52:48.760 --> 3:52:50.760 made that move, because like, now I know why y'all 3:52:50.800 --> 3:52:53.440 made the move, because you're thinking long term and now 3:52:53.520 --> 3:52:55.800 you're not doing short term thinking. But we we doubted 3:52:55.840 --> 3:52:59.080 each other to be honest with this short term. This 3:52:59.200 --> 3:53:01.520 is a short term. This was a short term. Why there, 3:53:01.600 --> 3:53:03.080 like we're like, we're just gonna do that. He was 3:53:03.160 --> 3:53:07.920 playing poker. I was OK. I mean that's diffain type 3:53:07.920 --> 3:53:11.320 of Ye, that's that's the absolutely right here, like like 3:53:11.560 --> 3:53:13.880 we don't know the bad story. This is a super bank. 3:53:14.600 --> 3:53:17.400 It was kendle two dollars six. Jesus, you're going way 3:53:17.440 --> 3:53:22.840 back story. We're in the studio and recording NonStop, playing poker, 3:53:23.480 --> 3:53:27.120 and if you realize, poker and and recording is the 3:53:27.240 --> 3:53:30.280 same thing. So it was so easy. So I would 3:53:30.280 --> 3:53:35.720 come out recording three days in a row with drink 3:53:35.760 --> 3:53:38.040 through the whole time. Yeah, he was like, oh, who's 3:53:38.040 --> 3:53:42.320 a drink? Drink And then I have recorded a song 3:53:44.600 --> 3:53:50.960 that ship we're playing, we're playing poker. He's recording non stop, 3:53:51.080 --> 3:53:55.680 NonStop weekly. We're having fun with doing our our music 3:53:55.760 --> 3:54:00.320 ship and always recording his music. We're supporting the vibe 3:54:01.120 --> 3:54:04.320 and he's recording and we're playing poker. And at the 3:54:04.400 --> 3:54:06.480 end of the night he would finished recording music and 3:54:06.520 --> 3:54:09.200 say what you was doing smoking weed? We're trying fun 3:54:09.480 --> 3:54:11.880 and we're playing drink and we haven't dreamed were playing poker, 3:54:12.240 --> 3:54:14.440 but we would say we would drink so much, we 3:54:14.680 --> 3:54:19.000 like we drink. Champs would whoever last, whoever, whoever ended 3:54:19.040 --> 3:54:20.760 at the end of the night, saying we're still awake. 3:54:22.520 --> 3:54:27.360 X Channon. Crowds love him. I love him exactly. We 3:54:27.440 --> 3:54:30.920 didn't have college. We had crazy hood studios and then 3:54:31.760 --> 3:54:38.560 and then and then he recorded a song with Alchemists 3:54:38.920 --> 3:54:41.400 called Drink Chance, and he recorded a song and we 3:54:41.560 --> 3:54:44.560 loved it. It's just us. I'm gonna tell you something 3:54:44.600 --> 3:54:49.040 that I don't even remember. It was the original Drink 3:54:49.120 --> 3:54:54.800 Chances on a missy beat right and Actemists called me 3:54:54.880 --> 3:54:59.400 and said, please change it, and the beat that you 3:54:59.520 --> 3:55:06.800 heard down works way more perfect. Two thousand between two 3:55:06.800 --> 3:55:10.800 thousand six got drafted. That's when we that's when he 3:55:11.400 --> 3:55:14.400 stamps you guys are skipping a lot of ship and 3:55:14.480 --> 3:55:16.840 we're really gonna get into a drink behind I'm drunk. 3:55:16.920 --> 3:55:20.160 We had a show already on on x M before 3:55:20.320 --> 3:55:23.920 Sirious x M, when x M was by itself and 3:55:24.000 --> 3:55:28.000 seriously another thing. We had a show. Yeah, and this 3:55:28.080 --> 3:55:30.720 show is called Militament Crazy Raw Race when you talked 3:55:30.720 --> 3:55:34.480 about earlier, because he named the show was name, Yeah, 3:55:34.480 --> 3:55:39.600 what's the name that? My company? Everything company's name is 3:55:39.640 --> 3:55:44.760 crazy and this and and then raw Leo Leo g 3:55:44.920 --> 3:55:47.920 who give us the show? So we had this same 3:55:48.160 --> 3:55:50.640 We had drinks challenge, the same as act show. Who 3:55:50.680 --> 3:55:52.640 who Who's Who's Whose idea was it? They say, no, 3:55:52.800 --> 3:55:54.440 let's not go from let's not do that, Let's go 3:55:54.520 --> 3:55:58.120 to the drink champs. Just give me one very long, 3:55:58.360 --> 3:56:02.000 just give me one name. Who was it? I don't 3:56:02.000 --> 3:56:15.640 want to give myself the problem. That's the reason why 3:56:15.720 --> 3:56:17.760 you can't give the prop because at the end of 3:56:17.760 --> 3:56:22.400 the day, it's a collective idea. That was like I 3:56:22.560 --> 3:56:25.120 grabbed it. I thought I was like your dream champ. 3:56:25.240 --> 3:56:28.800 I was amazing. I grabbed it without knowing it would 3:56:28.800 --> 3:56:31.360 be a podcast. Then my homie was like, you'll do 3:56:31.440 --> 3:56:34.600 a podcast and then we did a radio show before. 3:56:34.640 --> 3:56:37.880 I was like, you're show with Noria as a podcast, 3:56:38.400 --> 3:56:40.920 and then other people are telling him do a podcast. 3:56:41.800 --> 3:56:45.920 It was just so many things being direct to make 3:56:45.960 --> 3:56:48.200 it happy storm. And then when he was ready and 3:56:49.120 --> 3:56:51.240 he was ready, I said, your dream Champs, I got 3:56:51.320 --> 3:56:54.320 it ready yeah, and he said, let's go. But I 3:56:54.800 --> 3:56:57.000 think that you know, I'm glad that you're talking about 3:56:57.040 --> 3:56:59.200 this because I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm like, 3:56:59.280 --> 3:57:01.040 I don't know what this drink champ sins. I just 3:57:01.160 --> 3:57:03.160 know that this is the culture. And they got all 3:57:03.200 --> 3:57:07.400 these amazing guests. Nori is freaking as phenomenal, Like he 3:57:07.840 --> 3:57:10.360 he come in here, he's smoking, he drinking, but you 3:57:10.400 --> 3:57:12.160 don't know how intentional he is and how are you 3:57:12.240 --> 3:57:19.679 pushing the car so I'm not drink stake so hearty 3:57:19.960 --> 3:57:22.520 hear the back story on it. I think it's needed, 3:57:22.600 --> 3:57:26.720 like what is this he's a younger big brother because 3:57:26.720 --> 3:57:29.600 he's younger than he and the thing is me And 3:57:30.040 --> 3:57:32.640 we looked at it as where the we've we've said 3:57:32.680 --> 3:57:34.840 this for like a joke, Eric being rock him of 3:57:35.160 --> 3:57:38.880 of a podcast like as the DJ, I'm the background, 3:57:38.960 --> 3:57:41.160 I'm the guy that's doing what I do correct and 3:57:41.240 --> 3:57:45.280 he's the MC, and that's the way we approached. How 3:57:45.360 --> 3:57:50.240 much does you guys being respected in your previous fields? 3:57:50.480 --> 3:57:52.400 Right Like, I don't think you guys would have the 3:57:52.440 --> 3:57:55.720 same success. Absolutely, people didn't respect you in the game 3:57:56.360 --> 3:57:59.280 from the yard. But that's the same thing when I'm athlete, 3:57:59.360 --> 3:58:01.680 Like you can come on, I an athlete and be 3:58:01.840 --> 3:58:11.000 like y'all some thumbs because I am athletes. Yeah, yeah, 3:58:14.000 --> 3:58:18.360 you know, when I watched it, I said, yes, I 3:58:18.480 --> 3:58:21.200 need to be a boss ned because you know why, 3:58:22.520 --> 3:58:26.000 that's exactly what we thought. Thing is, we don't like. 3:58:26.320 --> 3:58:28.880 I don't like a god bless God, bless everybody who 3:58:28.960 --> 3:58:31.200 was in the NFL. When I look at those four 3:58:31.480 --> 3:58:36.320 motherfucker's that you'll put together, I don't want loose from 3:58:36.360 --> 3:58:40.040 the NFL, from anybody, anybody else, from anybody else. I 3:58:40.200 --> 3:58:46.320 want to fucking go to y'all page, tell YouTube and 3:58:46.400 --> 3:58:48.680 whatever the funk you'll tell me it's happening for that week. 3:58:48.840 --> 3:58:52.760 That's it. Yeah, that's where you can dribbing me in 3:58:52.840 --> 3:58:58.440 the wrong director, What did you make the wrong bat? 3:58:58.600 --> 3:59:03.640 You don't even care, righting, don't take that because you respected, 3:59:03.840 --> 3:59:07.200 Because I respect they had on the field if they 3:59:07.240 --> 3:59:16.360 were shot. Yeah, he was on the Patriots and we lost. 3:59:19.360 --> 3:59:22.000 That's one thing I respected about into regardless when he 3:59:22.080 --> 3:59:29.720 went to Jets Nuns. Yeah, the world wavis the road. 3:59:29.760 --> 3:59:34.040 We go to bath to real quick going, we're going 3:59:41.120 --> 3:59:46.680 right Jet they did, and he was a man. Ain't 3:59:47.200 --> 3:59:50.400 the real read? Ain't nothing wrong with the Rod revers 3:59:50.760 --> 3:59:54.440 It's my team. When's the last time he really followed 3:59:54.520 --> 3:59:59.760 the team? Mark Sanchez ran into the linebacker. But I'll 3:59:59.840 --> 4:00:06.360 be get busy. When he left fer Fitzgerald, what's the guy, 4:00:07.200 --> 4:00:13.640 the guy with the beard? Patrick got busy. He got busy. 4:00:13.640 --> 4:00:17.320 They ain't Miami got something, got a massage and fucking 4:00:17.360 --> 4:00:20.240 played his ass off I love the Jets for what 4:00:20.400 --> 4:00:28.760 they did with Sam Sam Donaldson, Sam Donald Sam donald 4:00:29.160 --> 4:00:37.720 He did he had a hepatitis, Yes, he had manoa. 4:00:38.760 --> 4:00:41.760 They reconstructed the old offense. He came back and they 4:00:41.840 --> 4:00:45.880 didn't have got Adam Gates got fired. I don't know 4:00:45.960 --> 4:00:48.800 I did go on, no, no, no, I'm hooking up 4:00:48.840 --> 4:00:52.600 right now because I'm what I say it right now? Um, 4:00:53.200 --> 4:00:55.960 and they make this the right move right now? Why 4:00:56.080 --> 4:00:59.800 did the Jets fired Adam Gates and said they parted, 4:01:01.400 --> 4:01:06.280 and the jaguarsh fired Doug Haron and said they party ways. 4:01:06.960 --> 4:01:11.040 But when an Anthony Anthony Lynne got fired from the 4:01:11.120 --> 4:01:14.760 tape from the charge, they said, they fired them. So 4:01:14.920 --> 4:01:17.960 why can't the same respect goes along with the whole 4:01:18.080 --> 4:01:24.080 overall perspective. Well, it's crazy. We had to come and 4:01:24.160 --> 4:01:26.720 that will come up in one of our episode. We 4:01:26.880 --> 4:01:32.200 actually have that conversation, right, Um, pretty much like anything else, 4:01:32.640 --> 4:01:35.880 we don't We don't control the narrative. What I mean 4:01:36.960 --> 4:01:40.880 is that the other is that the journalists hip it's 4:01:40.960 --> 4:01:47.480 unconscious bias, but it's also it's also white supremacing immediate, right, 4:01:47.680 --> 4:01:51.880 Like they honestly don't know how much intention is put 4:01:51.920 --> 4:01:56.480 behind it. But they literally can't even control They can't 4:01:56.600 --> 4:02:00.400 they can't control how they think about had lines when 4:02:00.440 --> 4:02:03.800 it comes to black people, right, And so there's no 4:02:04.000 --> 4:02:07.920 way that a black coach can just go his separate ways. 4:02:08.000 --> 4:02:10.800 He has to be fired. Right. So when you already 4:02:10.840 --> 4:02:13.720 have that assumption in your head and your subconscious, you're 4:02:13.720 --> 4:02:15.840 gonna write a certain way. Right. It's just like when 4:02:16.040 --> 4:02:18.640 when there's a crime committed, if it's a black person, 4:02:18.840 --> 4:02:20.680 you are going to know that it was a black 4:02:20.800 --> 4:02:26.800 suspect that killed somebody. They never they don't ever mention 4:02:26.840 --> 4:02:29.800 the race. You have to assume like that person is 4:02:29.800 --> 4:02:31.560 white because they haven't even said the race. We know 4:02:32.200 --> 4:02:34.960 when they say the race, they say the race, but 4:02:35.040 --> 4:02:37.120 when they don't say the race, that means that person 4:02:37.240 --> 4:02:39.160 is white and they don't want to categorize that person 4:02:39.280 --> 4:02:42.360 as a white person that did something heinous or violent 4:02:42.640 --> 4:02:48.080 or crazy. Negative negative against the NFL perspective, it's not 4:02:48.160 --> 4:02:54.320 the media and the media. The media is ESPN is 4:02:54.360 --> 4:02:56.000 not as diverse as it should be. So when you 4:02:56.080 --> 4:02:59.480 look at draft and when the black players they draft, 4:03:00.040 --> 4:03:03.080 and they talked about, oh yeah, this black player had 4:03:03.120 --> 4:03:06.200 a crack had a was a crack baby. Like that's 4:03:06.280 --> 4:03:09.400 literally what they put on the three lines they did 4:03:09.600 --> 4:03:12.400 for the player. That one line is this this baby 4:03:12.480 --> 4:03:14.920 was a crack baby. But then when you see the 4:03:14.920 --> 4:03:18.360 white players getting drafted went to Stanford actually got a 4:03:18.400 --> 4:03:22.240 double major, Like that's literally it. But it's that unconscious 4:03:22.280 --> 4:03:25.960 bias that that's Briant. That's Brant when he was drafted. 4:03:26.000 --> 4:03:28.200 We all know about DA's brain, right, you know that name, 4:03:28.600 --> 4:03:33.520 So that's Brian drafted the general manager for a team. 4:03:34.040 --> 4:03:39.760 I think is your mom Was your mom ever a prostitute? Yeah? Wow, 4:03:40.520 --> 4:03:43.360 somebody asked no real real yeah, one on one like 4:03:43.520 --> 4:03:45.960 the questions that they mean, I hadn't been in those rooms. 4:03:46.040 --> 4:03:48.200 So these two can antest to it. But I've heard 4:03:48.200 --> 4:03:51.000 that the questions that they ask. A combine can literally 4:03:51.320 --> 4:03:59.600 be watched. The NFL combine is when you go to 4:03:59.760 --> 4:04:04.000 in in Indianapolis and you literally work out and every 4:04:04.120 --> 4:04:08.200 team is they're assessing every single aspect of your ability 4:04:08.360 --> 4:04:11.280 and your personal life and your mental They do a 4:04:11.360 --> 4:04:14.360 mental assessment, really and they're literally trying to pay out. 4:04:14.400 --> 4:04:18.440 Are you a good fan? Let's paint the picture. Let's 4:04:18.440 --> 4:04:21.960 paint the picture. So from a physical step from assessment, 4:04:22.440 --> 4:04:25.800 you walk in, you got every single team sitting in 4:04:25.880 --> 4:04:29.480 front of you, lights, ontives, you walk on the stage, 4:04:29.600 --> 4:04:37.600 but you yeah, combining jokes, right, that sounds I'm going 4:04:39.600 --> 4:04:42.840 rates to the NFL. Now this is where we this 4:04:42.960 --> 4:04:45.720 is the stage and show them who I am and 4:04:46.320 --> 4:04:48.280 pros and stuff, right, and this is how they determine 4:04:48.280 --> 4:04:50.280 who they're gonna draft. They get to go through everything. 4:04:50.680 --> 4:04:53.640 So one of the things that you do is y'all 4:04:53.720 --> 4:04:56.280 the team all thirty two teams, but it's more people. 4:04:56.640 --> 4:05:00.400 It's the head coaches, is the manager, scouts, and maybe 4:05:00.440 --> 4:05:02.920 a handful of owners here and there. So I'm walking 4:05:02.960 --> 4:05:06.280 out and they said, Brandon Marshall University of Central Florida 4:05:08.240 --> 4:05:12.120 has nothing on but tights, nothing, no salt, no shirt. 4:05:12.480 --> 4:05:16.400 And I go here and whether people compared that to 4:05:21.080 --> 4:05:23.200 where you go up and you stand on the block 4:05:23.360 --> 4:05:26.840 and people literally says, how how useful are you going 4:05:26.960 --> 4:05:31.680 to be to me on the cotton field? And that's 4:05:31.680 --> 4:05:34.520 when people have compared to I don't necessarily think that 4:05:34.600 --> 4:05:40.960 it's apples to apples. Look at the end of the day, Look, 4:05:41.000 --> 4:05:43.320 we're talking about a billion a ten billion dollar industry, 4:05:43.400 --> 4:05:47.400 multimillion dollar athletes, right, We're talking this dude in Kansas 4:05:47.440 --> 4:05:51.240 City just signed almost a half of Billy right for it, 4:05:51.400 --> 4:05:57.360 you know, years just signed the deal like that's that's 4:05:57.400 --> 4:06:00.640 big time money. So you gotta understand this time, he's 4:06:00.680 --> 4:06:04.040 only three, there's only his third season. Yeah, it's the grades. 4:06:07.440 --> 4:06:10.320 Was it forty million? Right, So that's what he signed for. 4:06:11.040 --> 4:06:13.920 But you gotta think, so, you know, that process degrading. 4:06:14.440 --> 4:06:16.520 But at the same time that you gotta keep in mind, 4:06:16.640 --> 4:06:19.520 like you know, we get paid off of our body 4:06:20.320 --> 4:06:23.440 don't get paid off. This are you saying that you 4:06:23.600 --> 4:06:27.480 sign up for it? So this is the now kind 4:06:27.560 --> 4:06:30.000 of kind of but also like can the process be 4:06:30.080 --> 4:06:33.440 better when we talk about do we the players have 4:06:33.560 --> 4:06:36.320 a voice? Does the does the NFL does? Does the 4:06:36.400 --> 4:06:39.400 owner give us an opportunity to use up utilize the 4:06:39.560 --> 4:06:42.520 platform up? Correct? Doesn't have to be that, but it's 4:06:42.560 --> 4:06:45.480 bigger than that. Well, I don't think it needs to be. 4:06:45.680 --> 4:06:47.040 Like I mean, there was a guy that was running 4:06:47.080 --> 4:06:51.040 his forty and literally his whole thing came out of 4:06:51.120 --> 4:06:56.080 his shorts, right Like, I don't think that, Yes, yeah, yeah, 4:06:56.160 --> 4:07:01.080 this is the podcasts, Like, I don't know, look like 4:07:01.160 --> 4:07:09.160 I'm saying, but I think I think he speaks to 4:07:13.160 --> 4:07:17.000 does Brandon Marsha needs to be in tight spandic shorts 4:07:17.080 --> 4:07:20.080 to run a forty? Right? He doesn't? Right, But that's 4:07:20.320 --> 4:07:22.240 that's where there needs to be changes, right Like, I 4:07:22.280 --> 4:07:23.680 don't think that it needs to be in the same 4:07:23.800 --> 4:07:28.600 exact format. That's how they're doing it. It's the great 4:07:28.600 --> 4:07:31.080 because if you're coming here, look, it's just that. But 4:07:31.280 --> 4:07:34.120 also you wake up at six am, seven am, and 4:07:34.200 --> 4:07:36.400 you go through you see two hundred doctors and you're 4:07:36.440 --> 4:07:38.080 just laying on the table and they're coming up and 4:07:38.080 --> 4:07:41.680 they pull it on your toe. They pulling your They're 4:07:41.680 --> 4:07:43.400 not saying, hey, how are you doing? You know, yeah, 4:07:43.640 --> 4:07:45.560 rot your film. You know, we love what you did 4:07:45.680 --> 4:07:47.840 last year. It ain't like bro and you know everything 4:07:47.920 --> 4:07:49.720 about you. It's not that you're laying on the table 4:07:49.800 --> 4:07:51.640 and they're just moving you around to see and they're like, oh, 4:07:51.840 --> 4:07:53.480 let's send them back and get an m R. On that. 4:07:53.680 --> 4:07:57.520 You don't you don't feel like that there was other 4:07:57.920 --> 4:08:00.440 brothers that had it worse than you. When because because 4:08:00.440 --> 4:08:05.160 you use yeah, no, no, here, here's my thing right 4:08:05.320 --> 4:08:07.520 like here and here, here's my thing. Like you know, 4:08:07.560 --> 4:08:11.320 I have a goal in mind, and it's whatever, this 4:08:11.480 --> 4:08:13.760 is the process in place, Like if I got to 4:08:13.800 --> 4:08:15.560 make the decision, am I willing to go through that 4:08:15.760 --> 4:08:18.200 to get to the goal? And that's something I was 4:08:18.240 --> 4:08:20.280 willing to go through. It didn't matter. I wanted to 4:08:20.280 --> 4:08:22.280 play in the National Football League. I wanted to be 4:08:22.360 --> 4:08:24.240 one of the best ever. I wanted to sign a 4:08:24.320 --> 4:08:26.600 certain type of contract. I had goals in my every 4:08:26.680 --> 4:08:29.840 single year, so I just blocked out the distraction. But 4:08:29.960 --> 4:08:32.760 treating the experience for other people is a goal. Well, 4:08:33.960 --> 4:08:37.000 I think for her it depends like right, and this 4:08:37.200 --> 4:08:39.040 is that This is where it gets interesting when we 4:08:39.160 --> 4:08:43.040 talk about activism at the activism for her, you know, 4:08:43.200 --> 4:08:47.120 her passion is to actually is diversity in the NFL, 4:08:47.200 --> 4:08:51.160 not just diversity and just corporate America just period, right equality. 4:08:51.480 --> 4:08:54.880 That's her. For me, it's it's own health and wellness. Right. So, 4:08:55.440 --> 4:09:00.040 and I say this to the but when I was 4:09:00.160 --> 4:09:10.920 what I went to, so I love you v a 4:09:11.240 --> 4:09:18.000 much love much love your wife. He went to your 4:09:18.040 --> 4:09:21.560 wife's best brand, went to Hampton, went to Hampton. So yes, yes, 4:09:22.320 --> 4:09:30.480 so ill love bro Bro Bro, Why you do call 4:09:30.560 --> 4:09:37.400 you like that? In New York, you understand push your T. 4:09:37.560 --> 4:09:40.680 I know you probably don't know me, right, but I'm 4:09:40.720 --> 4:09:44.200 on TV. You know I pushed the conversation for etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 4:09:44.560 --> 4:09:47.000 And I just remember living in Brooklyn. I was playing 4:09:47.040 --> 4:09:49.440 for the Giants at the time, and then your album 4:09:49.600 --> 4:09:51.760 came out and then all I could listen to was 4:09:51.840 --> 4:09:54.320 those I'm like, first of all, like he's doing an album, 4:09:54.360 --> 4:09:57.240 he dropped only seven like tracks? Whatever? Like what happened 4:09:57.280 --> 4:10:01.200 in THT you changed was changing the game. And I 4:10:01.360 --> 4:10:04.200 was like, yo, what like you really went in, Like Kanye, 4:10:04.240 --> 4:10:06.080 it was that Kanye. It was the whole Drake, all 4:10:06.120 --> 4:10:08.640 of that stuff, Like Bro, you really went in. Yeah, 4:10:09.040 --> 4:10:10.680 they told him it was. It was a It was 4:10:10.720 --> 4:10:14.680 a classic moment in hip hop. I appreciate it. So 4:10:14.800 --> 4:10:16.520 talk to me about that, like you talked about was 4:10:16.560 --> 4:10:18.320 the classic moment in hip hop? Why was that a 4:10:18.360 --> 4:10:21.800 classic moment in hip hop? Why do you feel like that? Well, 4:10:22.080 --> 4:10:24.080 first of all, it was because of the Seven Songs, 4:10:24.160 --> 4:10:27.440 Number one, the seventh. That just changing the whole trajectory 4:10:27.440 --> 4:10:36.600 and we gotta push your teeth one, you know, changing 4:10:36.640 --> 4:10:38.520 the whole trajectory of what was going on in hip 4:10:38.560 --> 4:10:40.280 hop at the time. I think everybody was putting like 4:10:41.480 --> 4:10:44.040 six records on a on a album, so it was 4:10:44.120 --> 4:10:47.040 stream war and we were just like going against the establishment, 4:10:47.200 --> 4:10:49.320 just saying, look, we're just gonna make the best we 4:10:49.400 --> 4:10:52.920 can make in seven yea yeah, none of that. And 4:10:53.520 --> 4:10:56.320 and then just you know, just being lyric driven hip hop. 4:10:56.440 --> 4:10:59.440 And that year was like you know, nominating for Graham 4:10:59.520 --> 4:11:02.200 and it was just the best album was it. Let 4:11:02.240 --> 4:11:04.200 me ask you this because when I listened to the album, 4:11:04.240 --> 4:11:06.640 I felt like this could be potentially personal. Was it 4:11:06.800 --> 4:11:09.920 personal or was it business, because like y'all was, y'all 4:11:09.960 --> 4:11:12.760 didn't cross the line, but y'all you went deep bro, 4:11:12.960 --> 4:11:14.520 like where it's like if you want to go there, 4:11:14.720 --> 4:11:18.080 we can go there. Yeah. Well, it's always it's always 4:11:18.160 --> 4:11:21.520 personal saying this is wrapped so and when I do it, 4:11:21.920 --> 4:11:25.720 it's personal simply because it comes from a real place. Yeah. Respect, 4:11:25.920 --> 4:11:28.040 And that's what we just talked about. In sports, it's 4:11:28.080 --> 4:11:30.480 like the difference between we're talking about a ten billion 4:11:30.520 --> 4:11:33.320 all the industry and most of us come from places 4:11:33.400 --> 4:11:36.000 where this is our way out. So like, how can 4:11:36.000 --> 4:11:38.480 you tell me that this is business? This is personal 4:11:38.600 --> 4:11:42.760 for me because it gave me my opportunity to survive, right, 4:11:44.400 --> 4:11:50.880 legend legends, Push your teeth, Push your teeth, They'll thank you. 4:11:51.000 --> 4:11:53.680 Push you know. I love you for real? I mean 4:11:53.760 --> 4:12:03.920 your first video brand shout out on the said, Hey, 4:12:04.320 --> 4:12:06.080 can I let me ask you a real question? Though? 4:12:07.040 --> 4:12:09.520 Let me ask you a real question, real real? You 4:12:09.640 --> 4:12:13.080 with me? You with me? Friend? You with me? You 4:12:13.240 --> 4:12:19.120 with me? You with me? Am I to drink chance? Yes? No, 4:12:19.280 --> 4:12:20.480 let me ask Let me take me to tell you 4:12:20.560 --> 4:12:25.160 what drink? She had three shots feeling real good? Four 4:12:25.920 --> 4:12:29.760 He ain't He's chilling. He really feeling real good. He's 4:12:29.800 --> 4:12:33.520 gone gone. You can see your eyes getting glazy. And 4:12:35.000 --> 4:12:38.080 I didn't. I don't take a question. No, I don't 4:12:38.120 --> 4:12:45.080 think baby, I'm drinking, douce say, and I'm chap. I'll 4:12:45.080 --> 4:12:47.840 tell you what I'm being. You ain't really been drinking. 4:12:50.000 --> 4:13:05.240 Drink tonight. How you wake up tomorrow? That's always a 4:13:05.320 --> 4:13:10.440 drink chan there was more time you drink wake lately. 4:13:11.120 --> 4:13:15.800 He has to be when it's like, wait, the shot, 4:13:15.960 --> 4:13:20.280 everybody everything droning, everybody drink no more? Just watch over there, No, no, no, 4:13:21.120 --> 4:13:24.840 real gee, that's the shot. Be monsters, everybody showbody drink tonight. 4:13:24.920 --> 4:13:26.560 He tore this little. I would say, this's a camera. 4:13:26.640 --> 4:13:28.960 You got me helping wall. That's in my thing. But 4:13:29.040 --> 4:13:30.360 every once in a while you have a good time. 4:13:30.480 --> 4:13:31.760 And I'm gonna sure you got to be a drink 4:13:31.840 --> 4:13:46.160 chance Fred No, a little freaking right up. Listen to 4:13:46.320 --> 4:13:51.440 the house. We can't do it, friends, we can't do anything. 4:13:51.480 --> 4:13:55.040 Wet everybody care what up? Friends? Everybody tonight and nobody 4:13:55.080 --> 4:13:58.120 didn't wake up in the morning. I'm get up every morning. 4:13:58.160 --> 4:14:03.080 I got for I got production in that out. Yeah, 4:14:03.160 --> 4:14:06.720 So I'm I'm a FaceTime and I'm gonna show you 4:14:07.640 --> 4:14:09.680 and then I just want my corn. I feel like 4:14:09.760 --> 4:14:11.520 y'all need that. I feel like I feel like you 4:14:11.600 --> 4:14:14.520 talked about producing all that. Let me produce drink chance 4:14:14.960 --> 4:14:16.760 right now where I feel like, no, this just like 4:14:16.920 --> 4:14:19.320 O G O G. This is what we need to do. 4:14:19.520 --> 4:14:21.640 I feel like we need to built. I feel like 4:14:21.720 --> 4:14:25.080 we need something like yeah, like we can cry. You 4:14:28.160 --> 4:14:30.920 have for Rever on the show, Okay for Rell? Are 4:14:30.960 --> 4:14:33.840 you to drink at for no? Okay, he's not yeah 4:14:33.880 --> 4:14:37.360 he was yeah for yeah a lot to take off 4:14:37.400 --> 4:14:40.480 his man to the way to take over and maybe 4:14:40.480 --> 4:14:42.920 you said that damn he dropping juice. But y'all have 4:14:43.000 --> 4:14:45.200 so many people on the show, and I feel like 4:14:45.520 --> 4:14:47.600 at the end, who who's holding that? No, I'm good, 4:14:47.600 --> 4:14:50.440 I'm not. I ain't a smoke chant drink smoke? What 4:14:50.560 --> 4:14:53.520 is it called smoke? I ain't a smoke chance. I'll 4:14:53.560 --> 4:14:58.040 take some drink. Let's calm it down, to drink chip, 4:14:58.160 --> 4:15:03.960 don't drink more, to drink like some good. It's not 4:15:04.000 --> 4:15:09.320 about how much you drink, it's how Because that this 4:15:09.440 --> 4:15:11.120 is this is a smart I have to take the 4:15:11.200 --> 4:15:15.880 opportunity to say or Miami, uh a legend. No no, no, 4:15:15.960 --> 4:15:19.280 no Miami favorite Sean Taylor. Are you familiar with Sean Taylor? 4:15:20.200 --> 4:15:22.520 Can we give him some love because nobody ever gives 4:15:22.600 --> 4:15:29.880 him love after he passed away? Okay, yeah, yeah, I 4:15:29.960 --> 4:15:32.760 think that. I think the NFL community you closer to 4:15:32.880 --> 4:15:36.320 it than me. Like it's almost like a holiday. We 4:15:36.400 --> 4:15:38.840 talked about it every year in d C and Virginia. 4:15:38.920 --> 4:15:41.880 They definitely do thank you because we also do in Miami, 4:15:42.160 --> 4:15:46.840 but I just didn't know we do it in Virginia also, Yeah, everywhere. 4:15:47.240 --> 4:15:49.640 That's what's ups. Thank you, thank you. He's Miami legend. 4:15:49.960 --> 4:15:56.560 For Ller's Miami legend, Frank Gorgon Miami legend fowers. I 4:15:56.600 --> 4:15:59.320 would love to give him Frank his flowers, but he's 4:15:59.360 --> 4:16:03.800 not getting him gotten his blower something real quick, because 4:16:03.880 --> 4:16:07.920 you know, I did my googles. We thought Ulto singles 4:16:07.960 --> 4:16:11.040 were here, right, so then you know, and I have 4:16:11.160 --> 4:16:13.800 one question about I wait till annoys finish, That's what 4:16:13.920 --> 4:16:21.000 ask So then Ulto single says he promoted wearing fake jurory. Yeah, 4:16:21.000 --> 4:16:24.960 oh that's a big conversation. Yeah yeah, yeah, he said it. 4:16:25.160 --> 4:16:29.200 He said it, He said it, terrible got you got 4:16:29.240 --> 4:16:33.200 the most already Bracelest. You know, you know, you know, 4:16:33.440 --> 4:16:37.000 you know money, So I know that's that card here, 4:16:37.240 --> 4:16:40.960 that's the nail Racelest, that's the East seventeen. And then 4:16:41.000 --> 4:16:44.440 you got the you got the god duell Ja was 4:16:44.480 --> 4:16:51.560 the first one band faith. Yeah, he got about two 4:16:51.640 --> 4:16:59.720 hundred seven thousand. He got money. In my calculation, I'm 4:16:59.800 --> 4:17:04.120 just going with the conversation. I'm just saying, like, because 4:17:04.200 --> 4:17:08.360 those are investments, and people don't realize that. See when 4:17:08.400 --> 4:17:11.840 you get the bust out, don't diamonds, don't put no diamonds. 4:17:13.400 --> 4:17:16.120 He's speaking. But what I'm saying, I want to look 4:17:16.120 --> 4:17:19.040 at that chesship, the Cardia ship. A lot of people, 4:17:19.120 --> 4:17:21.560 that's what happens is they go get those cardierir braces, 4:17:21.640 --> 4:17:23.880 the same Cardier braces, and they bust them down and 4:17:24.040 --> 4:17:26.520 they don't understand that it takes away from the value 4:17:27.400 --> 4:17:31.000 you speaking. You are speaking, so a couple of things here, yeah, 4:17:31.320 --> 4:17:33.320 Fred Taylor, like oh geez, like that was the one 4:17:33.520 --> 4:17:36.240 talk really taught me away when I got into the league, 4:17:36.520 --> 4:17:38.840 seeing how they bought jewelry and how they explained it 4:17:38.920 --> 4:17:42.560 to me. And when you take this Cardier bracelet, this 4:17:42.720 --> 4:17:45.280 is something that's been around for years, or this Rolegs watch. 4:17:45.720 --> 4:17:47.920 What you're looking at when you put diamonds in it, 4:17:48.360 --> 4:17:53.320 now it it depreciates. It's a liability and not an asset. Okay, 4:17:53.560 --> 4:17:56.480 So that's first and foremost. But and then you gotta 4:17:56.560 --> 4:17:59.200 understand what type of watch you're buying. Is this watch 4:17:59.280 --> 4:18:02.040 and watch that foltives value and that you can put 4:18:02.120 --> 4:18:04.520 on your estate planning or is this a watch that 4:18:04.960 --> 4:18:06.960 the decrease in value as soon as you take it 4:18:07.000 --> 4:18:09.640 out the store. So there's a lot of conversations about that. 4:18:09.960 --> 4:18:12.680 How I bought my jewelry is every time I want to, 4:18:13.200 --> 4:18:15.800 I went to a Pro Bowl All Star game for 4:18:15.840 --> 4:18:18.720 the NFL. That money that they would pay us to come, 4:18:18.920 --> 4:18:21.000 that's when I would treat myself to a watch. So 4:18:21.160 --> 4:18:23.600 my watch collection came off of every time I want 4:18:23.640 --> 4:18:26.120 to I went to a Pro Bowl, right, and then 4:18:26.320 --> 4:18:28.840 I never bought I put diamonds in my stuff because 4:18:28.880 --> 4:18:31.360 I'm like, I want this to be able to like 4:18:31.760 --> 4:18:33.800 that sits up with that art, that that piece of 4:18:33.920 --> 4:18:35.760 art that I bought, And now that's a part of 4:18:35.840 --> 4:18:38.960 my portfolio that when I look at my my my 4:18:39.320 --> 4:18:42.880 my portfolio, Uh, you know, every single quarter, and I'm 4:18:42.920 --> 4:18:46.920 looking at my assets. That's a part of that. And 4:18:47.040 --> 4:18:53.560 I like, how you this month? Yeah, that was see 4:18:53.720 --> 4:18:56.240 a lot of Google. A lot of people say, yo, 4:18:56.320 --> 4:18:59.800 you know when you get money when you buy certain 4:19:00.400 --> 4:19:04.720 a certain jury is flaws, but then certain watches, it's 4:19:04.760 --> 4:19:08.720 not a flaw, sir watches. The investment even a birken bag, 4:19:08.840 --> 4:19:12.600 Like I don't suggest people buy Berken bag. The Birken 4:19:12.680 --> 4:19:17.520 bag never depreciates. Hold on second second time around stories. 4:19:17.560 --> 4:19:20.080 You buy that birken bag for twelve k, you put 4:19:20.160 --> 4:19:22.560 in the second time around store, you gotta pay eighteen k. 4:19:23.200 --> 4:19:26.440 It's like almost like that that Ferrari for eight right, 4:19:26.480 --> 4:19:32.720 Like there's certain Ferraris. You know, I never I wish 4:19:32.720 --> 4:19:35.320 I bought an exotic car and I actually enjoyed myself. 4:19:35.320 --> 4:19:38.240 I never really did that, but like I understood when 4:19:38.280 --> 4:19:41.680 I was looking at the investment of an exotic car, 4:19:41.960 --> 4:19:44.080 I knew if I bought a four fifty eight Ferrari, 4:19:44.760 --> 4:19:47.600 that that car that I bought for three eight five, 4:19:47.920 --> 4:19:50.280 and I put my my time into like picking out 4:19:50.360 --> 4:19:52.280 the stitches and the leathers and all of that, I 4:19:52.360 --> 4:19:55.720 can then turn around and resell that for four fifty. 4:19:56.000 --> 4:19:57.960 But if you bought the other ferraris soon as you 4:19:58.000 --> 4:20:01.160 take that off the lot, don't the reself, I don't 4:20:01.200 --> 4:20:04.400 hold its value, right, So when we talk about buying 4:20:04.920 --> 4:20:07.840 luxury and those type of things, you gotta understand some 4:20:08.000 --> 4:20:11.000 things hold its value, some things appreciating, some things depreciate. 4:20:11.960 --> 4:20:19.080 But what the attitude? Because um, I watched some documentary man, 4:20:19.320 --> 4:20:22.160 and they're seeing how so many athletes that you know, 4:20:22.240 --> 4:20:26.320 to get their money. And for the moment I got 4:20:26.400 --> 4:20:28.960 on the phone with you, I knew you wasn't that 4:20:29.240 --> 4:20:32.440 type of athlete. But the thing is, how did you 4:20:32.560 --> 4:20:36.160 develop that? So so let's talk about the exotic cars. 4:20:37.080 --> 4:20:40.680 I was actually in Waltham, Massachusetts in Boston, and I 4:20:40.760 --> 4:20:44.480 spent three months in the outpatient program. Okay, and I 4:20:44.600 --> 4:20:47.680 was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and then the best 4:20:47.760 --> 4:20:50.320 way to describe that as an emotional disorder. Okay, that's like, 4:20:50.440 --> 4:20:53.040 that's why I got into all this wellness stuff. And 4:20:53.200 --> 4:20:56.480 while I was out there, um, I talked about New 4:20:56.600 --> 4:20:58.680 York teaching me a lesson my wife getting you know, 4:20:58.800 --> 4:21:01.520 being out at the Mark Key like nightclub and getting 4:21:01.560 --> 4:21:03.480 hit in the bottle, hit in the face with a bottle. 4:21:03.680 --> 4:21:05.560 So we had to go to a dentist. So I 4:21:05.640 --> 4:21:07.440 called the New York Giants. I was playing for the 4:21:07.480 --> 4:21:09.520 Miami Dolphins at the time, but I was in New York, 4:21:09.560 --> 4:21:11.160 so I called the New York Giants. I said, I 4:21:11.280 --> 4:21:13.800 need to see a doctor. Connecting to people, they helped me. 4:21:15.120 --> 4:21:17.480 But then I got connected to the doctor, the best 4:21:17.560 --> 4:21:21.680 doctor in Boston. So when I'm in Boston, okay, I'm 4:21:21.760 --> 4:21:25.160 sitting with this dentnist, white dentnist, and he picked me 4:21:25.240 --> 4:21:27.920 up in a four eight and I'm telling like, this 4:21:28.080 --> 4:21:30.440 is my dream car. And he said, let me show 4:21:30.440 --> 4:21:33.400 you how to buy it. So that's how I understood 4:21:33.560 --> 4:21:36.800 that part, because he told me, like, this is why 4:21:36.840 --> 4:21:39.840 I bought it this way, this color, this type of interior, 4:21:40.120 --> 4:21:42.240 because if I choose to sell this back in three 4:21:42.360 --> 4:21:45.680 months or six months, I make my money back times 4:21:46.040 --> 4:21:51.480 times three. Right. And that's about what he always say 4:21:51.760 --> 4:21:57.120 is exposure leads to leads to expandion. So when we 4:21:57.240 --> 4:21:59.960 talk about Nori and you guys giving us free game 4:22:00.400 --> 4:22:03.240 or Jay z or Rick Ross or did he like 4:22:03.320 --> 4:22:06.280 that's free game? Listen, you know what I'm saying. Because 4:22:06.520 --> 4:22:09.360 y'all traveled the world a little, you know, what I'm saying, 4:22:10.320 --> 4:22:12.800 are you seeing Are you seeing that a betterment for 4:22:13.440 --> 4:22:15.760 I am athlete, or are we seen a betterment for 4:22:15.880 --> 4:22:20.400 drink tims having you had a guess another drink? Ye? 4:22:21.680 --> 4:22:24.560 Hold on makes sense, right, I didn't get my foot 4:22:24.640 --> 4:22:32.280 kicked like five time? Wake up nigga. Yeah, because me 4:22:32.360 --> 4:22:35.120 and you are looking out for me. Yeah. Yeah, I 4:22:35.280 --> 4:22:43.720 tapped out, but I ain't going home. I'm gonna sae man. Yeah, 4:22:43.840 --> 4:22:48.840 I'm good. Let's trust me. Shot shot shot shot. Yeah. Yeah, 4:22:49.000 --> 4:22:53.040 I'm gonna because I'm le, I'm gonna leave here with 4:22:53.160 --> 4:23:01.880 the belt on diputi b. Yeah, that's the same thing 4:23:01.920 --> 4:23:04.320 with my dude. Say that's the same thing. What you mean? 4:23:04.400 --> 4:23:11.280 Look at that just bottled tonight your help. I'm gonna 4:23:11.280 --> 4:23:12.960 saying this bottle with me and say I don't need 4:23:13.280 --> 4:23:20.640 friend Taylor drinking. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make sure 4:23:21.480 --> 4:23:27.680 so much. Listen member, everything you're doing already. I want 4:23:27.720 --> 4:23:30.000 to support it, but I wanted to tell you all 4:23:30.880 --> 4:23:36.080 give me your audio audio Yeah, yeah, we give it 4:23:36.160 --> 4:23:43.680 into your selling it too. I can't afford shid and 4:23:43.720 --> 4:23:46.200 we're gonna we're gonna say, you know, she's smarting stopped 4:23:46.240 --> 4:23:51.600 we give it in to your selling it to sharing 4:23:51.680 --> 4:23:58.680 this can that's that's going. Yeah, that's going. I'm selling 4:23:58.680 --> 4:24:03.640 it to the way people. We don't go I preferred buyer. Yeah, 4:24:03.840 --> 4:24:05.960 so you're interested in our ship. We would love to 4:24:06.040 --> 4:24:08.520 sell it. He's not buying because I'm a part of it, 4:24:08.720 --> 4:24:11.800 and we're not buying. We're selling it. We're gonna help you. 4:24:14.280 --> 4:24:19.720 We're gonna sell Jim, he's a great guy. You got 4:24:19.760 --> 4:24:38.080 the bad Yeah, we're about got smooth up streaming. We 4:24:38.200 --> 4:24:42.120 got smooth Chi you got drinking was a little man 4:24:43.160 --> 4:24:46.680 people feeling stuff like that. Huh. The's just saying smoke chance, 4:24:46.760 --> 4:24:51.480 we got um cha bang um young really Mike bof 4:24:51.520 --> 4:24:53.960 induced on the smoke chance, and then we got the 4:24:54.480 --> 4:24:59.280 drink chance, wildcat drink chance. Sports. Um. We're trying to 4:24:59.360 --> 4:25:02.640 get warm and Sat. We're trying to get and Paul 4:25:04.760 --> 4:25:09.800 here he ain't kind of talking a third person, but 4:25:10.160 --> 4:25:15.240 nothing to say more Sat would be dopey. So good. 4:25:16.360 --> 4:25:18.400 You keep saying trying to get Fred. You're trying to 4:25:18.440 --> 4:25:21.640 get Warren Sat. That's your people. Can we get more 4:25:21.760 --> 4:25:27.920 set together? But can't you get you can get your Sat? 4:25:29.000 --> 4:25:42.920 Do the deal? Fred freaky frid that that that, that's 4:25:43.040 --> 4:25:46.240 that's what. That's what. You gotta watch the show. I 4:25:46.320 --> 4:25:51.760 can't do it. I've never been in a room. Yeah, 4:25:51.920 --> 4:25:54.760 I've been in the viper locker room. It's different. Yeah, 4:25:55.080 --> 4:25:57.080 let me get you. Let me get your story about 4:25:57.080 --> 4:25:58.920 the locker room. And then a lot of people going 4:25:58.960 --> 4:26:00.640 to say, you know what, theyre gonna say a lot 4:26:00.640 --> 4:26:02.240 of things. They're gonna say, Brandon, you went too far. 4:26:02.680 --> 4:26:05.120 And then y'all might be like, yo, you're tripping because 4:26:05.160 --> 4:26:08.840 the culture is different in sports and then the entertainment. Right, 4:26:10.720 --> 4:26:13.000 one time, I'm playing for the I'm playing for the Giants. 4:26:13.080 --> 4:26:16.600 Just went from the Jets to the Giants an eighteen, 4:26:16.640 --> 4:26:19.840 good job team, my last real cup of tea. We 4:26:19.920 --> 4:26:23.120 got O'dale Beckham Jr. I went over there, Sterling Shepherd, 4:26:23.160 --> 4:26:29.400 Eli Manning. They just came out he but he got 4:26:29.440 --> 4:26:31.560 everything else right, he did. He the man in New 4:26:31.680 --> 4:26:34.600 York when he comes from an after standpoint. They just 4:26:34.760 --> 4:26:36.920 came off the playoffs and come off the boat tour. 4:26:36.960 --> 4:26:39.200 They got trade songs on them, you know, doing all 4:26:39.240 --> 4:26:41.120 of that. They win and they lose in Green Bay. 4:26:41.440 --> 4:26:43.800 So in my mind, I'm like, we just imploded with 4:26:43.920 --> 4:26:46.320 the New York Jets. Let me go to the Giants. 4:26:46.560 --> 4:26:49.040 They got the number one receiver in the league and him, 4:26:49.320 --> 4:26:51.440 I'll go on the other side, take push off of him. 4:26:51.720 --> 4:26:54.400 They got the top five defense. We're gonna win the 4:26:54.480 --> 4:26:59.160 Super Bowl. That's my mentality. So I go over there. Anyways, 4:26:59.720 --> 4:27:03.720 and uh, what was that? What was that going with this? 4:27:04.800 --> 4:27:07.720 The locker room? So I like the Giants. There you go. 4:27:08.000 --> 4:27:10.800 So I'm with the Giants and I get there, and 4:27:10.840 --> 4:27:13.800 this is my twelf year. It's my actually it's my 4:27:13.880 --> 4:27:16.240 towel year. And I go in the shower. Because you 4:27:16.280 --> 4:27:19.120 gotta understand this. We're gonna locker room. Got sixty guys 4:27:19.200 --> 4:27:21.520 in one locker room, come out of practice. You take 4:27:21.560 --> 4:27:23.000 all your clothes off, throw it in the ben, you 4:27:23.040 --> 4:27:25.120 put your whatever. You go in the shower, and the 4:27:25.240 --> 4:27:28.840 shower ain't know individual stalls. You got twenty guys in 4:27:28.880 --> 4:27:31.400 the thirty guys like school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like that. 4:27:31.520 --> 4:27:35.880 It's like it's like that, it's like prison whatever that means. Yes, 4:27:40.080 --> 4:27:42.400 So I'm in there. I'm in the shower at one time, right, 4:27:42.440 --> 4:27:44.040 And this is when I knew it was over, and 4:27:44.080 --> 4:27:46.320 I knew I was old. I'm in the shower and 4:27:46.440 --> 4:27:48.760 I'm just minding my business, like there's rules to it, right. 4:27:48.840 --> 4:27:50.920 So you're in the bank and I'm hitting this and 4:27:50.960 --> 4:27:53.560 the dude look over, he staring at me, like what 4:27:53.600 --> 4:27:58.000 are you staring at me? What's something good? And he like, 4:27:58.520 --> 4:28:01.560 you're Brandon Marshal. He said, I used to play man 4:28:01.880 --> 4:28:04.120 with you when I was in middle school. Next you 4:28:04.840 --> 4:28:08.800 next Sunday six. He's six six three other pounds. I 4:28:11.280 --> 4:28:22.360 bro like, when you had this conversation the jail broad No, no, 4:28:22.440 --> 4:28:26.240 no's happened that in Ja? What happened? Somebody recognize you 4:28:26.280 --> 4:28:36.720 in jail six six? No story that SI sorry when 4:28:36.720 --> 4:28:38.440 we talked about the locker room, because we talked, we 4:28:38.600 --> 4:28:39.760 came out for that and you're like, I don't know 4:28:39.800 --> 4:28:41.480 what happens in the locker room. That was one of 4:28:41.520 --> 4:28:44.680 the most awkward. So it's any given Sunday, Like that's realistic. 4:28:44.800 --> 4:28:47.240 Like have they has ever been a fight in the 4:28:47.400 --> 4:28:50.320 shower in the shower? There hasn't been a fight in 4:28:50.360 --> 4:28:53.000 the shower. But I saw I was playing for the 4:28:53.040 --> 4:28:56.560 Dinverer Broncos and dudes was hot. They was heated, and 4:28:56.640 --> 4:28:59.680 they on the field. They took the beef to the 4:28:59.760 --> 4:29:03.080 locker room. Now you're nine percent of time, like, all right, 4:29:03.120 --> 4:29:05.160 we go to camp, hard knocks. Everything you see on 4:29:05.440 --> 4:29:08.720 HBO offense versus defense. And you talked about this earlier. 4:29:09.040 --> 4:29:11.200 Were fighting. We don't like each other, but as soon 4:29:11.240 --> 4:29:13.520 as we get through the preseason, now we want team, 4:29:13.920 --> 4:29:16.240 and now we're talking about playing against the coachs, the 4:29:16.360 --> 4:29:21.120 giants or whatever you feel me. So the fights and 4:29:21.240 --> 4:29:25.360 practice it happens. But usually it's like, man, whatever we 4:29:25.440 --> 4:29:27.640 get in the locker room, it's done. So there's a 4:29:27.680 --> 4:29:31.160 couple of times where it carry into the locker room. 4:29:31.800 --> 4:29:34.160 So when I'm playing for the Denver Broncos, guys get 4:29:34.240 --> 4:29:36.800 into it. It was a ride receiver and there was 4:29:37.760 --> 4:29:44.840 a defense in wide receiver from Duvo. Y'all know, y'alla. 4:29:48.600 --> 4:29:51.520 So they get into it and they go in the 4:29:51.600 --> 4:29:56.320 locker room. They get in the locker when they still yeah, 4:29:56.400 --> 4:29:58.400 they're still talking. But they take it off the ham 4:29:58.480 --> 4:30:01.680 and they're talking off the shoulder, fans on pas, the 4:30:01.760 --> 4:30:03.760 hit pads, all of that, and they put on the shower, 4:30:03.920 --> 4:30:06.360 they put on they put on the tower. They still talking. 4:30:06.640 --> 4:30:08.680 That ain't nothing. We don't fight in the locker room. 4:30:08.760 --> 4:30:11.560 That's dead. On the field and then all of a 4:30:11.640 --> 4:30:13.840 sudden they go in the shower. They're still as they're 4:30:13.840 --> 4:30:17.520 going in together, still talking and the boys. Yes, yes, 4:30:17.640 --> 4:30:20.240 I've seen it too, grown men and their towers fight 4:30:20.760 --> 4:30:24.640 and then towers and I'm like, what's going on? Like, 4:30:24.760 --> 4:30:27.440 what's going on? Yeah, I've seen that one time. I've 4:30:27.440 --> 4:30:31.280 seen plenty of fights in the locker round Geno. Oh 4:30:31.440 --> 4:30:35.800 yeah with the Jets. Yeah, now that wasn't a fight. 4:30:36.760 --> 4:30:43.360 That was the one hit. Yeah, what happens? It was 4:30:43.440 --> 4:30:54.360 a snuff you what happened? He was there, Yeah, quarterback stars. 4:30:55.360 --> 4:31:04.880 So we finished practice pretty pre finished. Finished he walking 4:31:04.920 --> 4:31:08.040 in okay, and then and then and then Buddy says, 4:31:08.720 --> 4:31:11.440 you ain't ship this season. The last week was kind 4:31:11.440 --> 4:31:15.160 of not good, do you know? Said something and no, no, 4:31:19.520 --> 4:31:22.080 no happen is Geno's already in the locker up. No, 4:31:22.160 --> 4:31:25.240 I'm good. You know, my mom's learning. I need to learn, 4:31:25.800 --> 4:31:30.880 ybody like it was. Yeah, So I come in and 4:31:30.920 --> 4:31:33.600 locker from Geno's locker. It's like where Fred is and 4:31:33.680 --> 4:31:36.800 I'm over here by the bar right here, And I 4:31:36.960 --> 4:31:39.360 just told you, like, that's not we can beat from 4:31:39.400 --> 4:31:41.280 the field, but when we get in the locker room. 4:31:41.320 --> 4:31:44.320 That's dead. You know what I'm saying. So like you'll 4:31:44.640 --> 4:31:51.520 beat propecials. Everything guys is going crazy and you will 4:31:51.600 --> 4:31:54.080 never look up, like you get real aggressive and you'd 4:31:54.080 --> 4:31:56.480 be like, oh, that ain't ain't nothing happening, right, like, oh, 4:31:56.520 --> 4:31:59.040 I knit it up. That ain't ain't nothing we know 4:31:59.520 --> 4:32:02.280 in the locker room is dead. Were family, We're good, Okay. 4:32:03.000 --> 4:32:04.920 So I'm in the locker room taking off everything. I 4:32:05.000 --> 4:32:06.960 got my head down and all that here is y 4:32:07.080 --> 4:32:10.120 ya yeada, YadA yeada. And I'm not looking up, but 4:32:10.200 --> 4:32:13.200 it's aggressive, but I know, like that's the locker room. No, 4:32:13.320 --> 4:32:19.240 we don't fight. I know what it is. At that moment. 4:32:19.280 --> 4:32:23.200 It's like it's none that, it's none of that. So 4:32:23.280 --> 4:32:27.400 I'm sitting there and then all of us, sure, I 4:32:27.520 --> 4:32:29.400 still don't look up, and then a lot of a 4:32:29.400 --> 4:32:31.680 stud out here again. Let me look up. Let me 4:32:31.800 --> 4:32:34.720 check Geo slifting the lock when the back in the 4:32:34.760 --> 4:32:37.920 locker room, big old dude, like two hundred sixty pound. 4:32:38.520 --> 4:32:45.520 He's from Africa, Nigerian, right, like, oh, this is real, 4:32:45.640 --> 4:32:47.880 but this is the quarterback and you talked about it earliest. 4:32:47.920 --> 4:32:51.320 The seaton. You don't got no quarter one time. But 4:32:51.440 --> 4:32:54.160 one time I'm like all the shot. I'm like, so 4:32:54.480 --> 4:32:56.360 I run over there, and I'm like, I'm trying to 4:32:56.760 --> 4:32:58.520 just like seven eight of us trying to pull this 4:32:58.680 --> 4:33:02.160 dude two the pounds. I got three hundred pounders, I 4:33:02.240 --> 4:33:03.800 got three in the fifty pounds, trying to pull this 4:33:03.880 --> 4:33:07.680 dude off that Geno right, and then so anyways that 4:33:07.840 --> 4:33:10.880 happened Geno Smith, I grabbed my pull him in in 4:33:11.000 --> 4:33:13.520 the hallway. His jaw broke, and I probably broke his 4:33:13.640 --> 4:33:17.120 jaw for because he's bleeding out of just out of 4:33:17.200 --> 4:33:19.840 his marthage. He couldn't gonna tell you. Heeding out of 4:33:19.880 --> 4:33:22.000 his mouth, and he like he hot, he want to 4:33:22.040 --> 4:33:26.280 find like two sixty pounds. Shut up, Like, stay with me, 4:33:26.400 --> 4:33:28.520 let's fall over here, Let's talk about what's going on. 4:33:28.640 --> 4:33:31.759 What happened? Blood come out a small and he talking, 4:33:31.840 --> 4:33:34.000 he hot, and I'm grabbing his mouth, like Nick, you 4:33:34.120 --> 4:33:47.120 could stop because he sorry? Why didn't you? Like I did? 4:33:47.480 --> 4:33:50.280 So what happened? So h'im in there? And the only 4:33:50.320 --> 4:33:53.160 thing I think about is I'm a wide receiver. My destiny, 4:33:53.600 --> 4:33:56.880 my livelihood is in his hands. We got Ryan Fitzpatrick, 4:33:57.120 --> 4:33:59.600 who's our backup quarterback. He can't complete the foul your pass. 4:33:59.640 --> 4:34:02.919 I'm thinking about my twins that I just said, Yo, 4:34:02.960 --> 4:34:06.040 I'm not gonna get those honey catches here on the 4:34:06.120 --> 4:34:07.960 other side though, but I'm thinking about the quarter that 4:34:08.080 --> 4:34:10.760 I'm thinking about him throwing me the ball. So I'm like, damn, 4:34:10.800 --> 4:34:13.120 this is terrible. How you how you do that kind 4:34:13.120 --> 4:34:15.680 of ceo? So I run back in the locker room, 4:34:15.919 --> 4:34:18.320 and in my mind is like, Yo, he gotta see me. 4:34:18.759 --> 4:34:21.200 I ain't thinking about the corporate of Maryca, ain't thinking 4:34:21.200 --> 4:34:23.840 about NFL. I was totally blanked out. I'm running to 4:34:23.960 --> 4:34:27.200 this dude, defensive lineman two in the fifty pounds rock 4:34:27.280 --> 4:34:31.160 diesel from Nigeria now just straight natural, and I'm running 4:34:31.200 --> 4:34:34.480 to him like you gotta see me running this mouth. 4:34:35.000 --> 4:34:36.960 And I ran up to him and I looked in 4:34:37.040 --> 4:34:40.120 his eyes, his eyes bloodshot, read and I was ready 4:34:40.160 --> 4:34:43.000 to hear him, and I said, Yo, this thick is serious, 4:34:44.360 --> 4:34:47.200 said bro, what you're doing? Why you in her quarterback? 4:34:48.040 --> 4:34:50.560 And in that moment, I thought about saying, oh my goodness, 4:34:50.600 --> 4:34:52.600 I was about to smash him in his face, but 4:34:52.680 --> 4:34:55.120 then I just saw his eyes like I'm gonna lose 4:34:55.200 --> 4:35:01.040 this fight right now, totally opposite the direction. So I 4:35:01.160 --> 4:35:03.440 went up to the fight him and then when I 4:35:03.520 --> 4:35:08.880 seen his eyes, he turned around with you the pivot. Yeah, 4:35:09.000 --> 4:35:10.680 But then we went on to this point where you 4:35:10.759 --> 4:35:13.320 said we got hope. You know, his Patrick came in 4:35:13.440 --> 4:35:16.480 and end up leading us to you know, ten win season, 4:35:16.600 --> 4:35:17.960 and we thought we had us and then you had 4:35:18.000 --> 4:35:21.080 the Rail that season year. You like the Rail. I 4:35:21.240 --> 4:35:27.200 felt like, this is it the yet, Yeah, I'm gonna 4:35:27.240 --> 4:35:33.080 love you know my life. Tell him loser. I don't know. 4:35:36.160 --> 4:35:41.320 Can you break it down for me? She's a very 4:35:41.400 --> 4:35:45.600 gun I'm a cancer almost almost. I was almost. So 4:35:45.680 --> 4:35:48.280 we oh, this is the backstory. Yeah. See, now you're 4:35:48.280 --> 4:35:56.360 getting into a third hour. No no, I said, if 4:35:56.360 --> 4:36:00.080 we go four hours, then that's legend. The conversations that 4:36:01.560 --> 4:36:06.040 the five is the longest. Who I need I need 4:36:06.360 --> 4:36:23.120 you to tell me it is the Jets. I'm gonna 4:36:23.120 --> 4:36:26.360 give you to produce. If you go to the Jets 4:36:26.600 --> 4:36:29.040 with Dad, you know, and you go to the Giants 4:36:29.200 --> 4:36:32.840 with dead so so with the Jets, right, like, you 4:36:32.919 --> 4:36:35.840 gotta understand it's the biggest media market in the in 4:36:35.960 --> 4:36:39.640 the in the world, New York, right, So like that 4:36:39.800 --> 4:36:45.000 media market is serious. So the perception is is a circus, 4:36:45.080 --> 4:36:46.760 and it kind of is a circus. But when I 4:36:46.880 --> 4:36:48.920 got there, I was like, Yo, these people is good people. 4:36:49.080 --> 4:36:54.880 Woy the owner. But it was just like that was 4:36:54.960 --> 4:36:59.040 my best experience. You gotta remember I played on seven teams. Yeah, 4:36:59.520 --> 4:37:02.520 didn't come m and right. So for me, that was 4:37:02.560 --> 4:37:05.520 my best experience. And how the people, how they treated me. 4:37:06.800 --> 4:37:09.919 The Jets, so there's a difference between the Jets and Giants. 4:37:10.000 --> 4:37:13.200 The Jets is like the hood the Projects. The Giants 4:37:13.320 --> 4:37:15.120 is like you're going like so, no, let let me 4:37:15.120 --> 4:37:17.760 paint this picture. Deffinitely start over. The Jets is like 4:37:17.800 --> 4:37:20.079 you're going to public school. The Giants is like you're 4:37:20.080 --> 4:37:23.080 going to private school. And they're both playing in East. 4:37:23.120 --> 4:37:27.520 Brother Frotts right, kind of as two New York teams 4:37:27.560 --> 4:37:31.040 playing in East. Totally different vibes. He got to the Jets, 4:37:31.440 --> 4:37:33.400 we don't care about no Giants. We ain't talking about 4:37:33.400 --> 4:37:36.400 no Snoopy Trophy, no truth, no Snoopy Bowl, none of that. 4:37:36.480 --> 4:37:39.040 We're just trying to whatever. We're doing our business. I 4:37:39.120 --> 4:37:41.240 went to the Giants and everything when we're playing against 4:37:41.280 --> 4:37:43.320 the Jets, it was just like the Snoopy Bolus was 4:37:43.440 --> 4:37:46.400 this is important to us and all that like, because 4:37:46.800 --> 4:37:49.200 we're talking about none of that. We don't care about that. 4:37:49.759 --> 4:37:52.960 So it's a different vibe there. So here's what I 4:37:53.040 --> 4:37:56.440 would say moving forward. My prediction, they're gonna hire a 4:37:56.480 --> 4:37:59.080 black coach that can lead up, that can lead That 4:37:59.200 --> 4:38:02.720 was the Jets. The Jets, they have a huge diversity problem. 4:38:03.440 --> 4:38:05.600 And it's the number one. And it's the number one. 4:38:07.040 --> 4:38:12.160 They got four black people that work for the organization. Coach. 4:38:13.120 --> 4:38:16.760 Hold on, here's what's gonna happen. There's gonna be a 4:38:17.120 --> 4:38:19.680 I'm saying that right now on Drake Chance. It's breaking 4:38:19.759 --> 4:38:23.680 news the sports for I know your culture is no 4:38:23.960 --> 4:38:27.320 other stuff hip hop, but in sports and football breaking news. 4:38:27.640 --> 4:38:30.080 It's gonna be a black head coach. I think that 4:38:30.600 --> 4:38:33.560 all right. And then also it's the number one job. 4:38:33.960 --> 4:38:35.960 Why is it the number one job? You got two 4:38:36.040 --> 4:38:39.240 first round picks, you got draft capital, you got you 4:38:39.320 --> 4:38:41.480 got one to second round pick, and you got to 4:38:42.560 --> 4:38:52.200 third round picks for four years, and you also got 4:38:52.840 --> 4:38:55.480 seventy million dollars in cap space, which means you can 4:38:55.520 --> 4:38:59.560 go go out there and and and sign the top 4:38:59.600 --> 4:39:03.360 three eight. That's number two. And also you have to 4:39:03.600 --> 4:39:05.960 the number two overall pick. So you're gonna go get 4:39:06.000 --> 4:39:10.680 that black quarterback justin fields. So the Jets, I'm gonna 4:39:10.680 --> 4:39:15.079 tell you the Jets and anything like, y'all thinking Trevor 4:39:15.200 --> 4:39:22.000 is going first, Jesson's going to Jackson. Black's gonna getting 4:39:22.280 --> 4:39:28.720 Trevor Lawrence, Yeah, going second. Yeah, manage there. I love 4:39:28.759 --> 4:39:33.000 it is black excellent. We we live in and breathe it. 4:39:36.800 --> 4:39:43.880 But why not? Why not? It's nine pm and that 4:39:44.080 --> 4:39:51.640 one I'm drinking V on the show. We're gonna go, 4:39:51.720 --> 4:39:56.879 We're gonna go. I don't fit something to it. I'm 4:39:56.919 --> 4:39:59.560 getting there. No, no, no, no, no no no no, 4:39:59.680 --> 4:40:09.559 no feeling standing about four. I think as soon as 4:40:09.600 --> 4:40:13.240 we pulled up and we jumped up the van, the 4:40:13.560 --> 4:40:16.120 clocks are yeah, but I'm talking about the clock started 4:40:16.160 --> 4:40:19.280 at four p m. We pulled about four one. So 4:40:19.360 --> 4:40:22.080 we're gonna stay a couple of two minutes and Gus 4:40:22.080 --> 4:40:27.160 WoT put us number one over Buster runs right. So 4:40:27.440 --> 4:40:33.480 I said five five, You said five You said five hours? 4:40:37.040 --> 4:40:46.400 What what you mean? No, he didn't side bust. Hey, 4:40:46.480 --> 4:40:48.840 Oh that's a whole another, that's a whole another conversation. 4:40:48.919 --> 4:40:50.520 Though I know we gotta go, but I'll take me 4:40:50.640 --> 4:40:53.400 to you know, my minutes, because we competitive as a 4:40:53.680 --> 4:40:56.719 as athletes. Right, So Buster went five hours on the dot. 4:40:56.759 --> 4:40:59.520 We're gonna go five minutes and five hours and five minutes. 4:40:59.560 --> 4:41:02.879 So that put us number one on drink Champs. Okay, right, 4:41:03.160 --> 4:41:05.320 so I told we're gonna hold that, and I'm also 4:41:05.360 --> 4:41:08.120 gonna hold the crown for because I drink y'all under 4:41:08.160 --> 4:41:12.960 the table. Alight. But but but Buster, but bust you 4:41:13.080 --> 4:41:17.600 put me on his new album? Yes, look, how old 4:41:17.759 --> 4:41:22.840 is the hardest song out right? Now? Right? How old is? 4:41:22.919 --> 4:41:29.360 How old is? He don't matter? But that that's my 4:41:29.480 --> 4:41:31.920 point is that you don't see you only see it 4:41:32.280 --> 4:41:35.399 like two or three guys that's able to still produce 4:41:35.560 --> 4:41:38.800 at that level in the rap game. And you listened 4:41:38.800 --> 4:41:40.919 to his album and he didn't go with the pushing 4:41:41.000 --> 4:41:44.880 t route where it was seven songs. He went with 4:41:45.040 --> 4:41:49.000 sixteen seventeen eighteen or something like that. And then and 4:41:49.120 --> 4:41:51.440 it was tough because there's a lot of there was 4:41:51.440 --> 4:41:54.239 a lot there's a lot of aging rappers and they 4:41:54.320 --> 4:41:58.720 put out stuff and it's like that is trash, No, no, no. 4:41:58.840 --> 4:42:04.720 I think Buster's album is phenomenal. Thinking classic. You know, 4:42:04.800 --> 4:42:10.240 you feel what I'm saying my mind, because give me, 4:42:10.400 --> 4:42:12.520 give me, give me all right, let's say this, give 4:42:12.560 --> 4:42:17.880 me the top five rappers right now plus forty. That's hot. 4:42:19.880 --> 4:42:22.200 That's my point. That's why I'm bringing it. Give me 4:42:22.320 --> 4:42:28.680 five rappers, even Jesus, even Jesus, right, I know, I know, 4:42:28.840 --> 4:42:34.440 but but he doesn't get the credit though, But he will, 4:42:34.840 --> 4:42:40.800 he will, I don't think. Remember that's my point here. 4:42:41.520 --> 4:42:44.120 To stay with me though, But even thinking about Jesus 4:42:44.200 --> 4:42:48.200 new album like four, it don't match. But if you 4:42:48.320 --> 4:42:50.400 listen to the last two albums before we he just 4:42:50.480 --> 4:42:54.120 put out, it's like, okay, but that last album Jez 4:42:54.280 --> 4:42:56.680 put out, it was like yo, that right? You know 4:42:56.720 --> 4:43:00.680 what I'm saying, Yes, but nitcy is he? I wouldn't 4:43:00.680 --> 4:43:04.400 put him at JO I'm talking about put out the album. 4:43:04.560 --> 4:43:06.440 I'm saying, No, he put out the album. Let's say 4:43:06.440 --> 4:43:09.440 he put out twelve joints. Can I ride to a 4:43:09.560 --> 4:43:22.840 leven on the fun? Yes? Yes, that's what. Yeah, bro, 4:43:23.040 --> 4:43:31.160 tell me bus be Marshal here, give us some where 4:43:31.200 --> 4:43:40.960 you at. I'm dealing with some personal ship, ye right, Okay, 4:43:41.120 --> 4:43:46.280 we're talking about yeah, yeah, we're talking about your album, 4:43:46.400 --> 4:43:48.800 and I'm what I'm saying as an athlete, what I'm 4:43:48.800 --> 4:44:00.600 saying is yo, when he went happy. So so here 4:44:00.640 --> 4:44:04.000 here o g Here's what I'm saying. Like the album 4:44:04.120 --> 4:44:08.280 you just put out, right, I'm like, that's legendary. You 4:44:08.360 --> 4:44:12.320 know what I mean? Because huh, thank you King. I 4:44:12.400 --> 4:44:16.480 appreciate that greatly, brother, Yeah, because like how many how 4:44:16.560 --> 4:44:20.040 many aging rappers do we see age gracefully and still 4:44:20.160 --> 4:44:23.360 put out you know, let's say fifteen, sixteen, seventeen joints 4:44:23.560 --> 4:44:26.520 and you can ride to all of them. And so 4:44:26.600 --> 4:44:29.840 when I listened to your album, you know what I'm saying, 4:44:31.600 --> 4:44:33.919 because I'm talking, we talked, we're talking about a lot 4:44:33.960 --> 4:44:36.960 of stuff right now, and I'm just I brought it up. 4:44:37.680 --> 4:44:40.160 Nori ain't bring it up. I brought it up. Like no, 4:44:40.360 --> 4:44:43.520 I brought it up. You put me on bus, You 4:44:43.600 --> 4:44:45.440 put me on bus, You put me on bus saying 4:44:45.440 --> 4:44:47.680 you gotta listen to his new album. But that's what 4:44:47.800 --> 4:44:50.200 I'm saying, Like, you forty six years old and you 4:44:50.280 --> 4:44:52.480 put out something like that, and it's like, Yo, that 4:44:52.840 --> 4:44:55.920 is insane. That's legendary. So I just want to give 4:44:55.919 --> 4:44:58.920 your flowers. Oh man, thank you King. I mean, I 4:44:58.960 --> 4:45:09.880 appreciate you saying I'm forty six though listening it's an 4:45:09.960 --> 4:45:13.040 honor and it's a privilege to still, you know, be 4:45:13.120 --> 4:45:14.600 in a space for you to do what you love 4:45:14.680 --> 4:45:17.120 and be cashion it about it and and they get 4:45:17.200 --> 4:45:23.239 received on such a profound level. So I'm personally grateful 4:45:23.759 --> 4:45:26.680 and home about what your your mother and with your 4:45:26.720 --> 4:45:30.160 words and your sentiment my brother and man just on 4:45:30.240 --> 4:45:32.920 a general consensus level, man, I'm just grateful that the 4:45:32.960 --> 4:45:36.759 world is appreciate you know what, what I still feel 4:45:37.759 --> 4:45:40.280 it is done to help us the culture forward as 4:45:40.360 --> 4:45:44.000 I continue to try to contribute and in a great way, 4:45:44.080 --> 4:45:46.240 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And look, I know 4:45:46.360 --> 4:45:48.600 you're dealing with some personal stuff right now. We called 4:45:48.640 --> 4:45:51.400 you just right boom like that. I just want to 4:45:51.440 --> 4:45:54.640 ask one last question. So to me, what you just 4:45:54.759 --> 4:45:58.240 did was legendary. Okay, I wasn't expecting that. I'm gonna 4:45:58.280 --> 4:46:01.240 be honest with you, okay, but like where did you 4:46:01.400 --> 4:46:03.760 go to Like how did you get to that place 4:46:03.919 --> 4:46:05.600 where it was like, yo, you put that out? You 4:46:05.640 --> 4:46:07.360 know what I'm saying, what happened? Was there something more? 4:46:07.560 --> 4:46:09.520 Was it? Like? Yo, I'm this is who I am. 4:46:09.600 --> 4:46:11.680 This is what I do, and I'm just gonna go 4:46:11.960 --> 4:46:14.320 and and do what I do. Or was it something 4:46:14.400 --> 4:46:18.360 that happened, I mean, it's it's it's always a collective 4:46:18.400 --> 4:46:20.120 of things that happened in your life or just a 4:46:20.240 --> 4:46:23.360 natural progression and evolution. This is who I am in 4:46:23.520 --> 4:46:27.160 common time and space, and I just shared who I 4:46:27.280 --> 4:46:31.320 am now, saying like, I'm not trying to redo nothing, 4:46:31.400 --> 4:46:33.240 nothing from back in the days. I ain't trying to 4:46:33.280 --> 4:46:39.320 reado nothing based on people's you know, preferences or opinions. 4:46:39.360 --> 4:46:41.960 I'm just doing what feels good to me anything. You know. 4:46:42.000 --> 4:46:44.360 I'm just grateful that it feels good to everybody, because 4:46:44.400 --> 4:46:47.720 you know, it's it's it's rare that you get to 4:46:47.840 --> 4:46:51.320 do the ship, that you get this right when in 4:46:51.440 --> 4:46:54.560 the same sense, it always has to be right to 4:46:54.680 --> 4:46:57.560 you first before you give it to anybody. But a 4:46:57.600 --> 4:47:00.800 lot of the times was right to you, especially after 4:47:01.520 --> 4:47:05.000 you know, this year's thirty years of my profession, thirty years, 4:47:05.320 --> 4:47:11.080 thirty years in the game. I'm really so, I'm I'm 4:47:11.280 --> 4:47:13.960 I feel extremely fortunate to be able to do something 4:47:15.160 --> 4:47:19.280 thirty years later that feels right to me. That this 4:47:19.480 --> 4:47:23.760 recede in such a significant way on a global level, 4:47:23.800 --> 4:47:28.000 but I didn't really there wasn't like one significant thing 4:47:28.080 --> 4:47:31.960 that I was Yeah, I was wishing to collective of things. 4:47:32.040 --> 4:47:37.800 So just you try to make the moments that matter 4:47:37.919 --> 4:47:41.320 to you throughout the different things that you go through 4:47:41.360 --> 4:47:45.800 and have gone through. Okay, uh yeah, and I respect that. 4:47:46.160 --> 4:47:48.000 And you think you put this together and you should. 4:47:48.240 --> 4:47:50.120 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And I respect that, 4:47:50.120 --> 4:47:51.240 And I said, I know, I said that was the 4:47:51.280 --> 4:47:52.760 last question, but this is the last question that we 4:47:52.840 --> 4:47:57.080 go platinum yet Oh no, no, no, no, We're still 4:47:57.120 --> 4:47:59.920 on the journey. I mean, okay, okay, okay, okay, cool, 4:48:00.200 --> 4:48:03.440 because I like the drink Tims. We're gonna get you 4:48:03.560 --> 4:48:09.840 platinum everybody right now, for real, like for real, like no, 4:48:10.120 --> 4:48:12.000 for real, for real, for real. I'm telling you because 4:48:12.040 --> 4:48:14.240 like there's millions of people gonna watch this show, and 4:48:14.240 --> 4:48:17.080 they watch your show all the time, and it's because 4:48:17.160 --> 4:48:20.000 it's like, oh bus forty eight years old. They don't 4:48:20.000 --> 4:48:22.960 they're not expecting it. They need to go download on 4:48:23.120 --> 4:48:26.560 all platforms and get this man platinum. Not don't forget platinum. 4:48:26.560 --> 4:48:28.600 I don't care about the numbers, but you're really gonna 4:48:28.680 --> 4:48:31.360 enjoy the joint like everything, and it's a it's an 4:48:31.400 --> 4:48:34.280 album that you can ride out to. You know what 4:48:34.320 --> 4:48:37.000 I'm saying. So ay o, g thank you, thank you. 4:48:37.440 --> 4:48:41.080 You know what I'm saying. We connect soon. Man. You 4:48:41.120 --> 4:48:43.800 know you're the big home get you on the podcast. Yeah, 4:48:43.840 --> 4:48:50.440 you're the big Maybe appreciate you your love love not 4:48:50.759 --> 4:48:55.719 for real? Yeah, I'm a good but not for real? 4:48:55.840 --> 4:48:57.880 Normady do that like you gotta tell them people like 4:48:58.040 --> 4:49:04.120 how that's love? Because you told I'm gonna say this, Bro, 4:49:05.240 --> 4:49:07.480 I've been over it bits taking a nappy marriage, time 4:49:09.360 --> 4:49:28.040 shot whatever else? Shot never shot shot shot, Yeah, the 4:49:28.919 --> 4:49:36.440 time nine, what's the time ninety? I'm gonna say this 4:49:36.800 --> 4:49:43.000 more time. I'm gonna say this, lord, nor Bro, you 4:49:43.040 --> 4:49:48.040 don't have a friend over the years, though, yes, you 4:49:48.160 --> 4:49:50.800 had to keep your face clean. I ain't never seen 4:49:50.840 --> 4:49:53.000 the nigger that call other nigga is the answer on 4:49:53.120 --> 4:50:05.720 the first call you called the night Yeah that that ship, Hey, 4:50:06.120 --> 4:50:09.280 that isn't you know the phone of his friend? That's 4:50:09.520 --> 4:50:14.320 that's he caught push your team. They caught pussy tea Yeah, 4:50:14.320 --> 4:50:40.399 and Jim Jones bust who yalla, y'all so crazy? Yeah? Right, 4:50:41.320 --> 4:50:44.600 he was just what he don't. He was. He was 4:50:44.720 --> 4:50:49.280 just like, we got millions of albums. They don't matter. 4:50:50.400 --> 4:50:55.280 That ship don't matter. They don't even don't matter. Expectations. 4:50:55.600 --> 4:51:01.719 Y'all have money. Yeah, we already what do you reckon? 4:51:05.240 --> 4:51:07.000 He don't need to call no by he already won. 4:51:07.160 --> 4:51:20.919 He showed us alight. Yeah, you got it. Heye shot 4:51:21.160 --> 4:51:31.400 shot shot Yo. That's fantastic. Thanks for let me be 4:51:31.560 --> 4:51:33.920 what that means. I mean, let's take a picture, let's go. 4:51:36.360 --> 4:51:55.240 That's very true. Yeah, I definitely mean this man. Thanks 4:51:55.280 --> 4:51:57.759 for joining us for another episode of Drink Chains hosted 4:51:57.800 --> 4:52:00.200 by Yours Truly, dj E F Fenn and n O 4:52:00.360 --> 4:52:02.360 r E. Please make sure to follow us on all 4:52:02.400 --> 4:52:06.039 our socials. Let's add drink Champs across all platforms at 4:52:06.120 --> 4:52:10.160 the Real Noriegon, I g at Noriega on Twitter, minus 4:52:10.240 --> 4:52:13.400 at Who's Crazy on I g at dj E f 4:52:13.560 --> 4:52:16.000 n on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date 4:52:16.040 --> 4:52:19.160 with the latest releases, news and merch by going to 4:52:19.280 --> 4:52:27.160 drink Champs dot com. 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