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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August nine. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans. Hey now,

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Speaker 1: a guy who doesn't have a four year plan or

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Speaker 1: a one year plan, good night, it's a two hour plan.

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Speaker 1: J P. Check. That's indeed correct. Welcome in. It's Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on a Monday. For the first time since

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Speaker 1: January four. We're back, baby, j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 1: Tony was selling coming up. We've got a busy program ahead.

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Speaker 1: The Jags training camp practices continue tomorrow and Urban Meyer's

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Speaker 1: first NFL camp, and we are in the midst of

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Speaker 1: preseason Week one. The Jaguars entertained the Cleveland Browns this

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Speaker 1: Saturday night at t I A A. Bank Field. Camp

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Speaker 1: battles continue. I'm sure Tony has some thoughts about the

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Speaker 1: offensive line spot and some other positions. We have plenty

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Speaker 1: of social media questions. People have been clamoring to get

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Speaker 1: their questions in for Pete and Tony, and we'll go

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Tony Boselli is with me

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Speaker 1: here in studio. Pete Frisco is not he's down in

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Speaker 1: South Florida. But uh boy, it's great to see you

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Speaker 1: both again. Guys. What's up? Tony? Oh doing good? To

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Speaker 1: the seat? One minute, Tony? One minute? To get to

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Speaker 1: your seat? Did you get to your seat? L Drake

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Speaker 1: to sell, I feel like we're at practice. Wait a second,

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Speaker 1: I mean I might need that. That might help me

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Speaker 1: A little direction, A little direction, one less thing to

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Speaker 1: think about, think about. I mean, Pete, you mock it

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I like it's organized detail. You might

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Speaker 1: act you might actually need it for this show. By

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Speaker 1: the way, how many times last year a p was

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Speaker 1: he like wandering away and paying no attention right before

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Speaker 1: this show today? Pete? I mean he literally sat in

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Speaker 1: the chair ten seconds before the show started. On time,

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Speaker 1: baby time. I don't know, man, well, I mean, Pete,

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Speaker 1: you're a practice. You don't like the the loudspeaker, the

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Speaker 1: uh P A counting down thirty seconds next drill hydrate, hydrate,

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Speaker 1: hydrate ten nine. Hey, I mean I can only imagine.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure as a veteran, you know, you know, we

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Speaker 1: would have fun with it. But the one thing I

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Speaker 1: do appreciate, and I've been super impressed, Um, they were

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Speaker 1: on a tight camp. It is organized and everyone knows

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Speaker 1: exactly where to go when to be there, move movement before,

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Speaker 1: in between drills, not a lot of waste time, Pete.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of Tom. I mean

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Speaker 1: Tom was yeah, practices a crisp. I get give them that.

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Speaker 1: They moved, they get it moving, they do it the

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Speaker 1: right way. I just you know me, Tony, I'm a

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Speaker 1: little old school. I don't. I mean, you don't need

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on it just like it took me

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Speaker 1: a long time to get used to music on the

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Speaker 1: practice here, which I still don't like, by the way. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just, I just I'm old school. I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to see the coach. Coach blow the whistle,

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Speaker 1: blow the horn. Yeah, there's no music out there. There's

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Speaker 1: some music. It's not as loud as the music is

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Speaker 1: not as loud. I mean, you know they want to

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Speaker 1: save some ear drums. That's fine. I'll still it reminds

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of Tom when I remember when I

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Speaker 1: well be because it was Tom screaming to get to

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Speaker 1: And it reminds me a little bit of that very

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Speaker 1: so far he's answered that question because it is full energy,

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, the only three people in

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Speaker 1: it's the new NFL. Every player has a coach. You

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Speaker 1: have your personal coach. They say, listen, they said it

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Speaker 1: is every guy. Everybody's got their own personal athletic trainer too.

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Speaker 1: If I mean, there's more trainers and equipment guys and

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Speaker 1: You're not getting right anywhere that I've been doing this

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Speaker 1: you wonder how many of those will disappear once camps over.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at the list of coach, I mean,

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Speaker 1: You know, he starts the rules by making guys voluntary

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Speaker 1: Kudos to Sean Kahn for doing it. I mean, urban's uh,

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Speaker 1: me better than that. Every time Beselli's not in his

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Speaker 1: the jaire, But he does he is moving this team

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Speaker 1: know that more, more and more teams will go with everyone,

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Speaker 1: but Belichick will go with more and more coaches. You've

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Speaker 1: already seen it. I mean, I know other places, Pete,

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Speaker 1: they hire because I know the guy they hired. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to mention the place, but they said they

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Speaker 1: hired the well not name names. Now, come on, it

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Speaker 1: was he was the Nickel coach. Like wait, like like

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Speaker 1: just Nickel, Yeah, coaches Nichols. I'm like, okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: Come on, it's it's a part of the say, once

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Speaker 1: upon a time, Pete, there was a secondary coach that

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Speaker 1: be real, if he wins, it isn't going to be

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Speaker 1: because of the coaches he has, or the whole showing

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the we'll spend plenty of time

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Speaker 1: on Trevor. But my point is this is a copycat league,

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Speaker 1: and if it's successful, you'll see more and more teams

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Speaker 1: do it again, everyone but Belichick. Belichick is the one

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Speaker 1: guy who's still coaching. Like when I coached, you have

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Speaker 1: even name a coordinator, coordinators, coach, coach in a position

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Speaker 1: lot of abouties out there in the middle of that

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Speaker 1: stretching a lot, right, Holy cow, it's chaotic. I get

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a coordination to that. See it great

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Speaker 1: two guys have talked to you. Yeah, that's right. Let's

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Speaker 1: review the weekend Urban Meyers first NFL training camp. They

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Speaker 1: We heard from the Jaguars quarterback after that practice. He

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Speaker 1: enjoyed being in the bank, but having the fans out

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Speaker 1: it was fun to have a little scrimmage day in

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Speaker 1: all the fans that come see and when you think

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Speaker 1: that's what's happened, there's been once. You know, whether it's

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Speaker 1: the way he's described to me is last minute. You know,

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Speaker 1: Urban decided to take the pads off and make it

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Speaker 1: a good to Chris practice, nothing wrong with it, but

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Speaker 1: like this and you set expectations and don't mean that

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Speaker 1: I get the fans being disappointed because you again, the

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Speaker 1: question is why couldn't you do what you did on

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Speaker 1: Saturday on Sunday because that was a scrimage. That's what

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Speaker 1: the frustration is fine, But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer's job is to make sure his team is

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Speaker 1: ready for Saturday, this first preseason game, and even more importantly,

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Speaker 1: forward to August and here we are on Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on a Monday. Urban Meyers the head coach. Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is the quarterback. J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Presco,

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Speaker 1: glad you're along with us your social questions in the

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Speaker 1: second hour tonight and up plenty ahead in the program.

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Speaker 1: Here Trevor Lawrence is now at quarterback for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Now he hasn't been handed the job, Pete, He's still

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Speaker 1: gotta earn it, okay, like that, Let training camp go by.

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Speaker 1: Don't anoint him yet, Pete. He's got a fight off

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Speaker 1: Gardner and a third and Luton. Why the hell isn't

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Speaker 1: he getting more reps with the ones? I can't figure

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Speaker 1: that one out. That makes no sense to me, zero none.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no Let's cut the charade. Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 1: isn't beating out anybody. I mean, why why would you

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Speaker 1: even play play that game? It makes no sense. Give

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Speaker 1: him all the reps you can with the ones, get

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Speaker 1: him used to playing with those guys. If I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: he ran with the second teams to start to scrimage.

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Speaker 1: Yet back and forth. Though they've been doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of camp, they've been kind of reps. It's an open competition.

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Speaker 1: It's an open competition. Every every position is a competition.

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Speaker 1: That's like saying a seven year old and art classes

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Speaker 1: competing with Picasso, you get what if the kids a genius?

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Speaker 1: You never know unless you give him a shot. JP

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Speaker 1: to say every camp is open competition. They're not rolling.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I haven't seen maybe I've missed. I

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Speaker 1: haven't been in every practice, but I've watched. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen Walker Little sharing reps at the ones with Cam Robinson. Correct,

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Speaker 1: I haven't you know seen um, I've seen it at

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Speaker 1: right tackle with the starters. I think maybe not. No,

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Speaker 1: he's been getting reps at right You're right, I haven't

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Speaker 1: you know, I haven't seen you know, I got you know,

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Speaker 1: Shally running with the ones, like saying jps al Michaels. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's competition, I'm saying. I mean, I'm not saying I'm

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Speaker 1: not seeing Shaquille Griffin share time at corner. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's the corner now, he's starting corner right now. To

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Speaker 1: think about it, little has had some first team stuff.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. Okay, you've been My point is,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there any scenario in this world if

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Speaker 1: both guys are healthy, Like, any scenario you can think

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Speaker 1: of that Trevor Lawrence is not walking out there with

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Speaker 1: the first offense when we play in Houston, Texas? Is

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Speaker 1: there like like I I would think about the other

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Speaker 1: day because I actually agree with Pete if it was

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Speaker 1: me and again, Urbans won national titles. I have not.

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Speaker 1: So maybe there's a did they go to the Sun

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Speaker 1: Bowl one year? Yeah that was not national title? And

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a method that he like, that he is

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Speaker 1: believes in and has had success in this type of situation.

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Speaker 1: I just can't think of any scenario in the for

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Speaker 1: the life of me where Trevor Lawrence is not your

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. And if that's the case, the dude needs

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Speaker 1: reps as many reps as he can get with the

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Speaker 1: guys that are gonna be on the field with him,

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Speaker 1: and it's but Tony. This isn't Andy Dalton and Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: You have a veteran who's capable, and you have a

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Speaker 1: kid who's trying to take the job. This is the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick and a guy who proved last

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Speaker 1: year he can't play even beat debates. Uh, Pete, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I mean the only I don't they agree with us?

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Speaker 1: I will say this my uh, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they agreed, but they mean there's just they don't well,

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Speaker 1: Pete saying is different though, JP, I'm sure true, Sir,

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Speaker 1: Sir um to Urban Urban took the job. One of

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Speaker 1: the major reasons number one over quick. The point is,

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, then why aren't you getting him

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Speaker 1: as many rips are the ones as possible question? That's

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Speaker 1: that's my only contention. I know it doesn't matter. The

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Speaker 1: rest of it is just like dumb talk radio stuff

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Speaker 1: that who cares. The real question is is if that's

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Speaker 1: the case and he is your starter, then give him

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Speaker 1: as many reps as possible with the starters. That's my

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Speaker 1: only point. It makes me those are going to be

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Speaker 1: your guys during the season. They're not gonna be Gardner

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Speaker 1: Minshew's guys. There his guys. Now, you can give Minshew

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Speaker 1: a few reps with the ones just in case something

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Speaker 1: happens the large and he's grey with them, But you

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Speaker 1: don't give him lit. You don't split them in and out.

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Speaker 1: That's just stupidity. I don't I don't get it. I

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Speaker 1: just don't understand. And maybe Urban knows something that I

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Speaker 1: don't know, which is more football than I do in

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Speaker 1: my life, will ever know in my lifetime. But this

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Speaker 1: is a bad decision. And you know there's over a

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Speaker 1: month to the regular season, though every rep counts. And

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Speaker 1: I promise you if you asked if any of those coaches,

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Speaker 1: do you believe reps matter? Do you mean do you

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Speaker 1: think reps in August matter for September? And I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you the answers yes. And so I just don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but it does make me laugh, Pete, because

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Speaker 1: I remember when I got drafted by the Jacks, and

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember this. During O T A S

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Speaker 1: I ran with the threes because quote unquote, this is

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Speaker 1: no I wanted to make sure, I urge that's what

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Speaker 1: they're that's what they're saying, when you went to training camp,

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Speaker 1: where were you? I was with the starters. You gotta

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Speaker 1: own it, you gotta earn it. And here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: Tony knows this. As an offensive lineman, you gotta work

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Speaker 1: together as you gotta get the reps. And as a

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Speaker 1: quarterback you need to get the reps with those guys

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Speaker 1: in front of you, not just the receivers. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just the strain's over ended. Get it over with well,

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Speaker 1: and it goes to the point. And because here, I

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Speaker 1: mean again, nothing against Gardner Minshew. He's he's worked extremely

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Speaker 1: hard this offseason, He's had a good camp and he

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Speaker 1: is clearly the best backup. It's not in my opinion

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Speaker 1: watching um and so congratulations kudos to him for, you know,

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Speaker 1: putting the time in. But anyone who watches the two

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Speaker 1: of them on the field, it's not. I mean, Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is just it's a different dude. The guy has

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Speaker 1: superior talent that no matter how hard Gardners meants you

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Speaker 1: ever work. I mean, there's certain things that Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: can just do with the football that Gardner ritch you

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00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: can't do. He'll pull him out about three or four

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Speaker 1: times five times of practice. Trevor will make a throw.

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Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, that's different, and he teach it and

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Speaker 1: you watch the little things, his footwork, his timing, his accuracy,

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Speaker 1: I mean he is. His athletic ability. The other thing

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Speaker 1: that I've been impressed with. How many times during training

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Speaker 1: camp have you seen something where um, there's a mechanical

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Speaker 1: issue in the huddle at the line of scrimmage, him

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Speaker 1: looking confused, him not being in charge. It doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: now the next the next test is when the live

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Speaker 1: rush comes against the Browns. How does he do in

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Speaker 1: the pocket? Everything looks so far that he can't get hit.

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Speaker 1: He is very comfortable. He moves around. In college, he

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Speaker 1: was very comfortable. I mean, the guy is look special.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go do it, and there will be a

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Speaker 1: learning curve, and yes he'll have bad games, and yes

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Speaker 1: he will throw it to the wrong colored jersey because

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Speaker 1: that's what young quarterbacks do. But for everything I've seen

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Speaker 1: Pete Early, he's special. Oh man, he's specials for the

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Speaker 1: next decade. Don't worry about the quarterback position. Just do

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Speaker 1: I worry about it. And by the way, kudos to

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Speaker 1: the Garden mitshow to fight through and become the best

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback on the team because I didn't I didn't think.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if he'd be on the roster. We

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Speaker 1: talked about that last year. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: If he is the backup quarterback, it wasted a lot

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Speaker 1: of money on C. J. Beetham. Yeah, get a lot

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Speaker 1: of guaranteed money in that deal. Let's come back plenty ahead.

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Speaker 1: We'll have plenty more on the quarterback position in the

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Speaker 1: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. You can check out

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Speaker 1: get better, you know, and expect more from him. Like

634
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Speaker 1: I said last week when I was share, I expect

635
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: greatness from Josh and we're gonna keep pushing came him

636
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: until we get it out of it. But he's gotta

637
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: get better. Who's trying to do everything we're asking. We

638
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: just gotta find two in some of his technique. Keep

639
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: it simple form, get a spot fast, because you do

640
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: have God give an ability. Get to a spot fast.

641
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: And if you tackle I'm talking his past, your bacle

642
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: takes it, takes it away. Get your counter. That's it.

643
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Joe Collen, defensive coordinator up hearing that voice back in

644
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: the Jaguars coaching staff and welcome back to Jaguar's Happy Hour.

645
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco, Glad you're along

646
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: with us today. He was discussing Caleb on Chase on

647
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: That was on Friday after practice, kind of you know, hey,

648
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: challenging him a good bit there with that sound bite,

649
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: and then Saturday, Tony Jason came out I think had

650
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: his best practice of camp so far. Sack was all

651
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: over the ball pass defense at the line of scrimmage.

652
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if he heard the sound bite, but

653
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: it was good to see him really step up and

654
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: step out. Yeah. I mean, I think the system that

655
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: Joe's putting in will help feature Cablon Chason's ability. Calebon

656
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: Caleb on what I say, ca Valan, it's calev Caleb

657
00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: Caleb exa. Um, Uh, it's a better it's a better

658
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: um system because it'll put him in space more. I

659
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: think he got swallowed up last year and he didn't

660
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: do a great job with the transition from college to

661
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: having his hand in the ground every play as a

662
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: defensive end for the Jaguars. And I think in there's

663
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: three four he's in space. He can move around a

664
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 1: little bit, get matched up with back sometimes, get matched

665
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: up with the tight end every once in a while,

666
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: and rushed from a space position against the tackle is

667
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: gonna help him out quite a bit. Because he is

668
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: an athlete, he has God give abilities. As Joe Colin

669
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: had had mentioned, Um, what I did see Saturday's practice,

670
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't here. Um what I've seen in practice, what

671
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: I've seen on tape, Um, he is better, but still

672
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: he gets overwhelmed a little bit. Um he does. You know,

673
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: he's a guy. He has to use that speed and

674
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: get get the get the tackles hands awfu him if

675
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: he gets engaged. He's just not a big enough man

676
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: to overcome it. So I think what Joe said is

677
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: after right, it's a work in progress, and uh, he's

678
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: got to get better. They need production at him this year.

679
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: They need production out of Josh Allen as well. Um,

680
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: you know watching him in camp. Nothing, it's not like

681
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: there's been a bunch of big flashes. I haven't seen

682
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: at least um not early Saturday was really the one

683
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: for him. I'm talking about yea, Yeah, he looks in

684
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: great shape. Oh, he looks in great shape. Did how

685
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: did I didn't see Saturday? No on Saturday? And I

686
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: mean nothing really nothing that you say, nothing out of

687
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: the ordinary. But he's really good. So that's great. How

688
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: many sacks for jan Well this year, because that's his

689
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: name from now on. How many sacks for caval On

690
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: this year? Tony? Um, No, I'd taste six or seven.

691
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: So if they can get double digits out of Alan,

692
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: which they should. If you're picked where you're picked, you

693
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: should get that. That guy should get double digits five

694
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: for five or six for Cabalan. Um, it's Calevan Calebon,

695
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: I know what it is, Calevan? You alright? Five or

696
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: six for Calebon? How many where else did they get

697
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: that gets? You gotta get the forty to have a

698
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: good pass, right, So are you gonna get interior? Roy Robertson,

699
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Harris Robertson, Harris, I think we'll give some production to you.

700
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: How many three or four? I think he has five

701
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: or six? I think Smoots another guy who's gonna I

702
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: think you'll see um, you know, six to eight. I

703
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: think John six plus to four or five one six,

704
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: stay twenty eight Miles. Jack will get a couple of

705
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Blitzer baby five or six, right, and don't forget about

706
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: god Ward is another guy who's you know, he's a

707
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, middle you know, middle single digit guy. What

708
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to point out is to get the thirty five,

709
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Chason has to be better and what you think he's

710
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: gonna get, and Alan has to be better than what

711
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get. What did you say you

712
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: think all get ten? Yeah? Hey, why didn't we're looking

713
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: at smooth on the gap? Why do you change his number?

714
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: Wasn't he ninety four before he was? And ninety one

715
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: was open and when in Gockway was no longer around.

716
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: Then he decided to finally change it was it was

717
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: his number. Okay, that was curious. Um yeah, so um

718
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: switching gears. Yeah. Well, the way, we're sticking on defense

719
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: here and C. J. Henderson has been in the news

720
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: this week. Trade rumors are out there, some reports have

721
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: been out even this afternoon. The Times picking unit in

722
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans said that the Saints are looking at the

723
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: corners and including C. J. Henderson. That has been a

724
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: hot topic today Tony. Well, yeah, I mean if you

725
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: look at from the beginning, you know, if C. J.

726
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: Henderson be in the first round pick last year, he

727
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, came out. There were some comments during camp

728
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean pre camping sorry draft day.

729
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: If I go back to his like about his interest

730
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: to being a Jaguar, that quickly went away, quickly put

731
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: that to bed. No big deal came out to camp.

732
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: You know, maybe some Nixon you know, injuries during camp.

733
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: But then opening day last year was like a superstar

734
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: great had an interception off rivers. Yeah, I mean just

735
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: looked fabulous and and then was up and down to

736
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of rookies. But then the injuries started

737
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: coming and you just started hearing stuff just like and

738
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: it was just and the next thing you know, he's

739
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: in I are, Um, he had a shoulder issue, that

740
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: growing a bunch of different stuff and so you started

741
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: instantly worrying about the availability. UM. And then this offseason,

742
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: you know, you didn't hear a lot about it, but

743
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: you heard you know, is there injuries? And then he

744
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: starts off camp, you know, on the COVID list, and

745
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: then he finally shows up and then he's one practice

746
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: in and he's gone again. And so there's just all

747
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: these different things swirling. And immediately you hear about these

748
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: trade rumors and so you know, not where you want

749
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: to be with the guy you picked in the top

750
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: ten to come so of your corner issue and um,

751
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: but this is where we are and this is we'll

752
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: see where it goes. I mean, the rumors are out there.

753
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: You hear about him. UM, tell you what, I was

754
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: just in New Orleans. They're looking for a corner and

755
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: you know there's you know, there's people regardless of what

756
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: has happened here and all the different rumors and nonsense

757
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: and whatever whatever is true or not, who knows. Um,

758
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: you just know that the rumors are about trade. You know,

759
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: he's been at one practice and it's been a little bit.

760
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: You know, he's not been available, but you but there's

761
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: a he was a he was a top corner prospect

762
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: just a year ago, and you know that a bunch

763
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: of other teams had them high on their board. So, um,

764
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: now will they get the value that a top as

765
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: a top want to know? But they'll get something. They'll

766
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: be a team out there interested because they will feel

767
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: like and they will remember the evaluation they did of

768
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: him as a Gator and say, hey, whatever happened at

769
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: Jacksonville happened, we can fix it. We can get the

770
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: most out of him. Let's go take a chance. And

771
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: he's got a relatively cheap contract. That's right. If you're

772
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: like you're the Saint. You've got a bunch of money

773
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: in Marshawn Lattimore, who might get suspended, by the way,

774
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: and your other corners drafted for what for he got

775
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: arrested for he had a gun charge, a legal firearm

776
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, so there's a chance he gets suspended. And

777
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: then you have the kids you drafted out of Stanford

778
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: a debo and you have Patrick Robinson and guys like that.

779
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are twenty years old. They need

780
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: a corner, and I was told they're going to get

781
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: a corner. Henderson would make a lot of sense to

782
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: the Saints. It's a cheap But again, when you start

783
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: talking about play yours, why isn't he on? The availability

784
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: is the only ability that truly matters, and he hasn't

785
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: been available, and that's the big concern. It's availability issue. Um,

786
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: And you can't control COVID's that's that's no, you can't

787
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: cod that's how. That's how the that's how the young

788
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: man's The question is does he love it well? I mean,

789
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: that's the question. I mean, and that's always a question question.

790
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: When he came out of college in Florida, the scouts

791
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: all when you talk to the scouts, the personnel people,

792
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: they asked that same question. Does he love it? Will

793
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: he will? Will you get to the NFL game and

794
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: love it? Understand it's something that you have to I mean,

795
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: it's one of the evaluations. It's part of the evaluation process.

796
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Anytime you pick a guy, you know, there's a lot

797
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: of talented guys, I mean, and set aside C. J.

798
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: Henderson for a Second, there's a ton of talented guys

799
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: in college that are just great because they're great athletes,

800
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: but they don't truly love ball. And you better love

801
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: football if you're gonna, you know, if you're gonna have

802
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: long term success, and and and you want a guy,

803
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: you want a locker room full of guys who love ball.

804
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: They just love football. It's a hard game and if

805
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: you don't love it, it's really really hard. But what

806
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: do you think they get back for him? Like the

807
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: Saints make it, call him up and say, hey, we'd

808
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: love to have THO was our starting corner. What do

809
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: you get back for him? I heard they have di

810
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: scrambled wide receiver right hearing stories about there. You don't

811
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: want him here either, Yeah, yeah, you're not getting Michael Thomas.

812
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you don't want to be here anyways. Yeah,

813
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean because there's a lot of noise around him.

814
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Pat to your point, Oh my gosh, you don't want

815
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: him around there. That's not what this young team needs.

816
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: That's not what that young quarterback needs. They don't know,

817
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: you don't want you don't want that. And so um,

818
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: so what do you get back? Third or fourth? Well,

819
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'd be apprehensive to trade him

820
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: for a three or four totally was gone with him

821
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: when it's not fixed bolt, which I don't think that's

822
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: the case. I wouldn't trade him for anything less than two?

823
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: Are you thinking? I mean, Pete, but you, I mean,

824
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: you know this as well as I do. If it

825
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: just depends how much smoke is out there, you know,

826
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: and we don't hear everything I mean, and half the

827
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: stuff you hear is well, then yeah, then I I

828
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: would agree with you. But you have to I think

829
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: if you're building something here, you have to make the decision.

830
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: And again I'll go back to you want a bunch

831
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: of guys out locker room that love football, And I

832
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: don't know CJ. Henderson's I'm not gonna make an evaluation.

833
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't know you heard the Pete's point. You heard

834
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: stuff coming out of college last year. It's a long

835
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: time ago. But Urban and the coaching staff they've been

836
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: around him now and Trent Balky. Part of the evaluation is, okay,

837
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: number one, what do you want to get for him?

838
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: And if it's a two and you can't get it

839
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: too well, then if you keep them, is is he

840
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna be available, are we gonna get production out of him?

841
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: And does he want does he love it? I don't

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bowden. Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Briscoe. Another hour starting in just a

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Speaker 1: what are your memories of Bobby Bowden? Did you ever

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Speaker 1: We did a thorough investigation of cheating allegations, and I

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Speaker 1: How difficult was that confidence stational interview, the idea of

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Speaker 1: It was well researched, and for whatever reason something happened

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Speaker 1: Pet Paradise, it's a new day in pet care, so

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Speaker 1: Welcome Backs Jaguars Happy Hour the second hour of the

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Speaker 1: program J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior writer

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Speaker 1: and pride of the Jaguars Left tackle Tony Boselli. Glad

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Speaker 1: you're along with us, says the Jaguars continued training camp.

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Speaker 1: Players off today, back on the practice field Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll host the Cleveland Browns in preseason Week one,

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Speaker 1: Saturday night, seven o'clock at t I A A. Bank Field.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it's here already. This is our first

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Speaker 1: Monday Happy Hour program since January four. We're back and

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01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: we'll be here pretty much every Monday until the day

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Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. Pete if the Jaguars go that far.

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Speaker 1: How about it? And uh, if Tony goes to England

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01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: and can't do the show, that'll be our highest rated

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01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: show that Monday, like it always is the tradition. Unlike

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Speaker 1: any is there any word on the ticket sales are

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Speaker 1: beginning in phases in the UK, okay, and I think

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01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna sell until otherwise, you know, if if I

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01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: don't know, if there's a drop dead date where they

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01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: have to say, hey, it's not gonna happen, or it

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. But ticket sales are beginning in phases

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Speaker 1: in the UK for those games. So that means that

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Speaker 1: we will have our Tony less show that Monday after

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: the game, the highest rate every year since we've been

1083
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: doing this show, it's the highest rated show going through

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01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: the roof. Yeah, we'll see about that. The numbers don't lie. Oh,

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01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: the people say they love it, Pete. I mean I

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01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: get a lot of people who come to me and

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: say that show is magic radio. I mean it's incredible

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01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: to listen to. Let's test it. You guys can't do

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01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: the last hour by yourself. He's always looking for a

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Speaker 1: way out. We're starting with a bang, Pete, you count

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Speaker 1: me out, Pete seconds next period j P, Tony, Tony

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01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: get ready, walk out, h walk out, walk out. You're

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01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to carry it more and make sure your

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: water get the water. I love it. I did, miss Um.

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Speaker 1: I always enjoyed that lending game. I mean I know

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01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: very few people probably did. I mean I don't know

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Speaker 1: who did or did not? Always always fun. Did you

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01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: enjoy it over there? Yeah? I personally, Jeff, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean not Joe. How do you feel about it?

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01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of work for you, technical guy,

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01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean it is, you know,

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: for guys like Tony Pete. For guys like Tony, he

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01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: gets to do all the big fancy parties and all

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Speaker 1: these things. Yeah. Trip. For guys like me work trip. Hey,

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01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: don't hate the player, hite the game. JP. You go

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Speaker 1: every year? You don't go? I have been every year. Yes,

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01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: I've been very Fortunately you have to come home early

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: and he gets to stay, which is right. When you

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01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: come back, you do the show. Tony has like other duties.

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01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: I guess. So I come back and I'm on the

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: air Monday here in this student. You know, after flying

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01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: back with the team, I have sponsorship responsibilities that might

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: not be the case, might not be the case. Too

1114
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: early to tell. Yeah, I mean i've even heard you

1115
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: know what the plan is. But your day, Yeah, keep going,

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01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: love it. The Jaguars are in the stadium Sunday. They're

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Speaker 1: off today. As we said, back on the practice field

1118
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: the rest of the way, no more open practices to fans.

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01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: Sunday was the last chance to see the Jacks for

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Speaker 1: free in this offseason program. C J. Henderson has been

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Speaker 1: in the news today. Well, the trade rumors have been

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01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: out there, at least in this afternoon, the New Orleans

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Speaker 1: Times picking you newspaper reporting that the Saints are looking

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Speaker 1: for a corner, including looking at c J. Henderson. There

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Speaker 1: are those trade rumors. That's not the only one that's

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: been out there today, Tony, but that's been the big

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01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: topic of discussion. And Pete, you think we talked about

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Speaker 1: this in the first hour. You think they should try

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Speaker 1: to get a second round or you think they can

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Speaker 1: get a second rounder for CJ. Uh Yeah, maybe, I

1131
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: mean he is was the ninth overall picked people at

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: first or high first round graids on them. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a possibility. No, I listen from a

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Speaker 1: talent standpoint, there's no doubt about it. We saw it

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Speaker 1: firsthand that dude can play football when he's on the

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Speaker 1: first round. No, I know that the but my point

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Speaker 1: is he can play. The question is you know availability,

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Speaker 1: which we addressed, and if I was a opposing team,

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Speaker 1: my first question is, Okay, why are you trading him

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: after one year? Right? I mean, wouldn't a legitimate question. Yeah? Yeah.

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01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: By the way, if it's even true, the Jaguars have

1142
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: not confirmed they're trading. Um, there's nothing out there. It's

1143
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: a report, you know on several outlets are saying that

1144
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: they're that they're it's open for business as far as

1145
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: having conversations about trading for CJ. Henderson, But to be clear,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have not confirmed that that is the case. Again,

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01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: I go back to the Saints. For the Saints a

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: cheap corner, and that's what he is right now. Makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense for a quarterback needy team. For example,

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01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: if they were in the market to trade for Xavian

1151
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: Howard before he got his deal restructured, that would have

1152
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: been to twenty million dollar corners. You can't do that,

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01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: but you can do it with c J. Henderson because

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01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: his deal is finals financially uh good for the team.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's possible that the Saints could make

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Speaker 1: that deal if they wanted. So, the Jaguars spent a

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01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: lot of actual cash and then draft equity at the

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Speaker 1: cornerback position. This offseason. Shatt Griffin came over in free agency,

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01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: big deal of course, from the Seahawks, and then in

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Speaker 1: the draft Tyson Campbell second round draft pick. If for

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Speaker 1: some reason c J. Henderson is no longer on this roster,

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,479
Speaker 1: are the Jags okay at cornerback? To do they feel

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01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: like they have to go get somebody else at some

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: point that can actually go play and play right away. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's go through it. I mean Sidney Jones, you know again,

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: Nick Dupple throughout his career, but when he was healthy

1167
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: last year, he looked he played good corner outside corner,

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01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: was a good player. Trey Herndon more of a nickel

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: or a backup outside guy I think was We're I mean,

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: but he started outside and was a productive guy. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why I said he moved to nickel. Um, I've

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01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: been super impressed what I've seen from Tyson Campbell. He

1173
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: seems to be around the ball, good cover, guy has length,

1174
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: he was good yesterday, good size, um, and so you

1175
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: know you drafted him the top of the second round

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: for a reason. It's almost like another first rounder. Um.

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: So I mean I think you could piece it together. Yeah,

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01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: you can piece it together. But it hurts because you're

1179
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: counting on you got. You draft the guy in the

1180
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: top ten because you think he's a starter. But how

1181
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: do you play it? If Henderson's there's Henderson, Griffin and

1182
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: Campbell's Campbell's So if if he's not there, then it

1183
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: becomes what Griffin Jones and Campbell's and nickel or Griff

1184
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: and Campbell outside and heard the nickel, Yeah, some combination

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: of the such. Where do you think Campbell is more

1186
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: comfortable playing? I think he's an outside corner. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I don't know, Pete. I have not to be honestly.

1188
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: It's not like I've watched every play to see where

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: he's been lining up, and I've not talked to I

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01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: haven't heard from any of the coaches. I don't think

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01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: an outside corner. Well, that's because of his length right

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01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: here right and the little corner in the slot usually

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: has to turn and as I don't he's more of

1194
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: a long glider. I don't. I think he could play

1195
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: the nickel, but I think he's more of an outside.

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01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: Another position of interest, of course, in this training camp

1197
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: so far has been the offensive tackles. Cam Robinson. He's

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Speaker 1: in the franchise tag year thirteen point seven million dollars

1199
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Speaker 1: guaranteed this season. Juwan Taylor on the right side, trying

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01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: to bounce back from a penalty laden season let's say

1201
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: a year ago, and then the Jaguars in the second round.

1202
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: Later in the second on after the Campbell pick went

1203
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: and got Walker Little from Stanford, and he has not

1204
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: played since early in the nineteen season. He injured his

1205
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: knee in the opening game against Northwestern that year and

1206
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: missed the entire season, came back, opted out last year,

1207
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: did not play last season, so he has not played

1208
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: football since Week one of twenty nineteen. He told me

1209
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: the other week that he has fired up to be

1210
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: back in an actual football game at some point very soon.

1211
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: There have been some moments, at least in one on

1212
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: ones when the pads went on, that you can see

1213
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: his size and his his ability to to play and

1214
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: do things the right way. Tony. What have you seen

1215
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: on tape from him? What have you seen out of

1216
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: little the times you've seen him in person? Um, he's

1217
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: a big athletic man. I mean he's just a big

1218
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: person UM. And he has natural ability, natural strength, UM

1219
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: to be a really good player both you know, run game,

1220
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: pass game obviously you know you know some things he

1221
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: can clean up UM in the past game and and

1222
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: you know footwork, you know, in coordination with you know

1223
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: uh in uh working with his hand placement and everything else.

1224
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: But just overall, UM, you see why he was, you know,

1225
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: before the injury and before the opt out was you know,

1226
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: thought about it as a first round traft pick. And

1227
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: and my guess is if he would have played last year,

1228
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: he would have been a first round draft pick this year.

1229
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he is a very high ceiling and

1230
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: I think he'll push. I think I think he'll push

1231
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: both the tackles. Does he play this year? I think

1232
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: he does? Which side? When you do this all the time,

1233
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: when I don't know, well, I mean I don't know.

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01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,480
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I've said all year, said the offseason,

1235
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: saying it camp. I feel really good about the interior too.

1236
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 1: I think the the um. Two out the two tackles,

1237
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: Joan Taylor and Cam Robinson have a ton of talent,

1238
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: like they have upside, They're big, physical men. They are

1239
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: inconsistent and you have to be more consistent if you

1240
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: want to be effective as an offense. You need consistency.

1241
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: How those guys where they can hold up when it matters.

1242
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: And I just I worry about the footwork I worry about,

1243
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: you know, especially in the pass game. I worry about

1244
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: UM holding up on a good outside rushers where we

1245
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: saw them struggle last year at times and and early.

1246
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: And this is super early, so you don't want to

1247
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: jump to conclusions after a little bit over a week

1248
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: of camp. You still see some of the tendencies. Talking

1249
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: about Cam Robinson where he kind of opens up the

1250
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: gate gets you know, perpendicular to the line of scrimmage

1251
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: really early shortened that corner for an outside rusher, and

1252
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: that's something has plagued them for most of his career.

1253
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: And I think Jowan Taylor is again another guy I

1254
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: think he needs to play bigger. I don't think Jowan

1255
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: Taylor plays his big um as he as I think

1256
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 1: he should. It's funny Tony when you mentioned that because

1257
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: I think the same thing when you leon seriously, was

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Speaker 1: not a big man, but he played big. He played big.

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Speaker 1: This he just got doesn't play big. And judging from

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Speaker 1: what people are saying up there, and I only saw

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Speaker 1: one practice, he's had a good camp, Juwan Taylor. But

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, JP, You're being kind. Penalties. That wasn't

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Speaker 1: the only part of the problems of his game last year.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't very good. He regrets, he regrets came Robinson

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Speaker 1: didn't get better. That's why they drafted Walker Little, and

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Speaker 1: so I think I think early in the season Walker

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Speaker 1: Little will be the left tackle, does too. He just

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to say so. You think you know they

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Speaker 1: is why he's the starter right now. But you think

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Speaker 1: Walker Little wins the job before too long. If let's

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Speaker 1: put this way, If Cam Robinson place like he did

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Speaker 1: last season, yes, I agree, little Walker Little will be

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Speaker 1: in there by October. I agree with that. Then what

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Speaker 1: do you do with Cam Robinson after the year. You

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Speaker 1: get rid of them, your backup and just eat the

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Speaker 1: the backup and and yeah, you're not gonna play. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I don't care about you're paying the guy.

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Speaker 1: If the guy behind him is better, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: play it right. You don't move into a different spot.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to overtake any There's all that talk

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Speaker 1: of trying to my guard. He hasn't done any guard

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Speaker 1: work that I know of. Okay, is he gonna be

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Speaker 1: better than a j Can or or Noral? Obviously they

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Speaker 1: don't think so if he's not working or cross training

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Speaker 1: there right, Well, and a j Can had good years

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Speaker 1: last year and he got Shotley behind them and BArch

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Speaker 1: and those guys project you gotta then you got Then

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Speaker 1: you have an expensive backup. I mean, you deal with it.

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Speaker 1: But but you didn't when you pay at him, you

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Speaker 1: didn't know you were getting a tackle like that was

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Speaker 1: going to be there. Um. So if you're in that

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Speaker 1: scenario when you drafted, if you didn't know Walker Little

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Speaker 1: was gonna be there when you signed camera, when you

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Speaker 1: put that tag on Cam Robinson, your backup was Will Richardson, correct,

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Speaker 1: that's right. So you protected yourself and now you protected

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Speaker 1: yourself and you still gotta tackle. So the best guy

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Speaker 1: plays if it's a Walker Little, I don't care what

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson is making he's gonna be an expensive backup

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Speaker 1: for a year. You paid him right, you didn't give

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Speaker 1: a long term deal. But I would agree with Pete

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Speaker 1: and listen, I'm rooting for Cam because I like Came

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Speaker 1: a lot. But the white you have to be consistent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can have all the potential in the world,

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Speaker 1: you can have all the ability and be big, and

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Speaker 1: you have to be athletic if you don't get it done,

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Speaker 1: don't block people. Yeah, especially with let's standing in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: I don't care who's in the backfield. Your jobs will

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Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. Now. It might be in the spotlight

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Speaker 1: more now, but it does it doesn't change. Nothing changes,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if those two regressless. I mean Taylor really

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Speaker 1: regret which But you know, George Warhoffs got a challenge

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Speaker 1: this year. You didn't do it last Year's gotta get

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Speaker 1: into play better. So I'm looking forward to watching them

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Speaker 1: during the preseason games and see if because to me,

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Speaker 1: it's all I mean, the offensive line so much is

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Speaker 1: about technique, Like if you if you, if you have

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Speaker 1: better chance of winning or at least technical problem, Tony,

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Speaker 1: you wants point out Pam Robinson's technical problem, but what

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Speaker 1: do you want, Taylors. I mean, he's a very vertical,

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Speaker 1: uh center, And if you're not, if you're vertical meaning

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Speaker 1: going getting depth and really you know, kicking, then straight

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Speaker 1: back on the line. And if you're gonna do that,

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Speaker 1: the point of attack to create the separation because you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of room instead of creating some width with

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Speaker 1: your kick. Now, both are viable techniques. I mean, guys

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Speaker 1: do both. But if you're gonna be vertical like that,

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Speaker 1: you better you better be stout because An and he

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Speaker 1: just I mean, at times I don't think he plays

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Speaker 1: I personally would try to get I try to create

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Speaker 1: more with um. I'm not a coach, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that that's not a viable technique to teach, if

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Speaker 1: that's what jowans being taught. But I just think, you know,

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Speaker 1: at times he just gets pushed back and gets too

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Speaker 1: soft in the pocket. I don't know the offensive line

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Speaker 1: When you argue with me on Twitter, who's that? You know?

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Speaker 1: You know that guy that has that offensive line mastermind

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Speaker 1: and they have a school for the offensive lineman. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know of that. Yeah, well he got on me.

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Speaker 1: He got on me because I ranked certain guys and

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Speaker 1: came back and tried to say the Jaguars had two

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Speaker 1: good tackles last year, and I went, you might want

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Speaker 1: to clean your eyes out a little bit. Who is

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Speaker 1: this guy? Uh is? Uh? Do many Weather is his name?

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Speaker 1: He used to work for La Charles Bentley kind of

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman a league go there, Tony. So you're

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Speaker 1: First off end of argument. He said, Joe Thomas is

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Speaker 1: the list. How long should Trevor Lawrence play in preseason

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01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: weeks one, two, and three? Tony, go ahead. I'd play

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Speaker 1: him one quarter in preseason game one, all with the ones.

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01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: Preseason game two, I'm playing him two quarters plus one

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Speaker 1: series coming out of the half in preseason game number three.

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Speaker 1: He is sitting on the bench next to me. Pete boy,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, um Remember, Tony, there's two weeks

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Speaker 1: before the last from the last preseason game until the

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Speaker 1: start of the regular season. It's different this year, and

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01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 1: so do you want him not playing at all for

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01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: three weeks? So I might go a quarter in the

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01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: first game, quarter and a half in the second game,

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Speaker 1: and maybe one series in the last game, just to

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01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: get his feel for it again, Pete, I get what

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01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 1: you're saying, but I don't want to play any of

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01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: my offensive line in that third preseason game, and I'm

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01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: not putting them behind backups, not one series even. I mean,

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01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: you're I'm not just talking about the I'm not talking

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: about just him. I'm talking about the team. That means

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01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: you go three weeks without playing they way for the

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01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: regular months last year. About playing before the first first game? Yeah,

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01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: play games? You're still going to practice? Yeah, I don't know.

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01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: I might. I might consider playing him one series if

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01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: he played the starters, but if not, then I wouldn't

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01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: play him. I'm with Tony, come let it come out

1487
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: of the half in the second game and then get

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01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: him out of there. That's interesting, right, I mean because

1489
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: and you know, it's also the first time Urbans had

1490
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: to do this, right, he's got That's why he has

1491
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: the NFL staff around him to help him. However, he's

1492
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: been around forever. It's a different it's a different year though.

1493
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: There's it's a new thing. There's not four preseason games.

1494
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: Cuts are on Tuesday. Um, so you know, it's an

1495
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: entirely different thing this year. So how do you handle it?

1496
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, they're back down to three different

1497
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: cuts this year. Also, they go down to five Tuesday

1498
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: after the first preseason game, and every Tuesday after that,

1499
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: it's like five week after that. But the last two,

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01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: last one, you'd have a week and a half, so

1501
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: you could you're gonna cut your roster and you're gonna

1502
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: have a week and a half. You can get guys

1503
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: in and they can get acclimated quicker. Remember it used

1504
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: to happen, you'd have to get him acclimated right away

1505
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: because you're playing a game the next week. And the

1506
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: Jaguars Pete have the number one waiver claim for the

1507
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: first three weeks of the season, so they'll have first option.

1508
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: They don't want to have ever again with Drever Lard's

1509
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: here either, nor will they. So yeah, changes, So, Tony,

1510
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: does that change your mind at all about the last one? No,

1511
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: because I don't want to play my starters one series.

1512
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: What's the what's the benefit of one series? It's all downside.

1513
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: You're probably right. Another prep week, you know you're gonna play.

1514
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: Guess what? I prep them all week. They go out

1515
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: for pregame warm up, they get their sweat on, and

1516
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: guess what get out playing guys. I want to evaluate

1517
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: that are down the line and see what I got.

1518
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: But Tony, what about Okay, So why play so much

1519
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: in the second game? Because I my young quarterback to

1520
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: go through like the mechanics and the work and everything else.

1521
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: So you're gonna play, You're gonna play the starters. Yeah,

1522
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm playing the starters. I'm playing. I'm playing. As much

1523
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: as I hated it as a player, I think there's

1524
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 1: a benefit playing a half, going in a halftime, coming

1525
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: out and getting a series. I don't know. I don't

1526
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 1: even know if you're not gonna do I don't know

1527
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: if I would even do that. I play in the

1528
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 1: quarter and get them out of there, and then I

1529
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: just think. I mean, he said, how hard does it

1530
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: get adjusted the halftime? Well, I'm just saying, it's just

1531
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: your body used to the mechanics. I'll say this, we

1532
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 1: go what go look at how much? Not last year?

1533
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: The year before, after the Chiefs went to the a

1534
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: f C Championship. I we went to the Super Bowl,

1535
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: no AFC championship game and loss of the Patriots. Go

1536
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: look how much that following preseason you saw they played

1537
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: They're starters in preparation for the season, because this is

1538
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: a super Bowl team that we're talking about a year ago. Yeah,

1539
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: I mean two years two years ago. The one of

1540
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: this team. This is a bunch of young kids. I

1541
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: know that, but they I'm saying, they know. My point

1542
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: is they played a bunch of football. Patrick Mahomes was

1543
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: playing the first preseason game, played the second preseason game.

1544
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: This is when they had four preseason games. Even play

1545
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: a little the third like, did you try to get reps?

1546
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: You gotta get practice? Okay, if you gotta get reps,

1547
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: and why not play a series in the lett and

1548
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: the third preseason game? Yes, okay. The only reason I'm

1549
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: saying not to because I know there's no chance they are.

1550
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to be right. What would you do, coach,

1551
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: I go playing a quarter in the final preseason game? Wow,

1552
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: well you just change your mind then no. But I'm

1553
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 1: giving just giving both sides of the story. He's gonna

1554
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: send him five minutes ago, Freddie flipbop? What are you doing?

1555
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: What's that? I mean? I could be talked out of

1556
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: the third preseason you just flip loop. My point is

1557
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: to be talked out of it. Pete, I am steadfast

1558
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: on a quarter, two quarters in a series in the

1559
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: third and then I need to evaluate. How about this,

1560
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: I want to evaluate where my team is going to

1561
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,799
Speaker 1: the third piece. Does it matter? I mean, it depends

1562
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: on how they play in the second game. And you

1563
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: don't play well, Okay, you need to go out and

1564
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: play game played great, then you're not playing. Yes, it matters. Okay,

1565
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: let's see how sharp they are said about you said reps,

1566
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 1: you want reps, You get more reps if you're playing

1567
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: the third piason. Well, if you stink you need more reps, yes,

1568
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: what if you play well, you just said you want more.

1569
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 1: You want reps. Period, that's what you said. You said

1570
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: as a coach, you would play them. There is a

1571
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: fine line when there becomes the reps verse the risk

1572
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: after me, wait and that's true. I agree, So I

1573
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: probably would play him your first, your first plan, plus

1574
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 1: my series in the last game. I play one series

1575
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: in the last games three. It depends on what they

1576
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: do in the second preseason game. That determines what I do.

1577
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: Much like Urban this past weekend, determined Sunday after when

1578
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: he saw happen Saturday because he saw the how his

1579
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: team practice a physical day were and they were nick

1580
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: so he made a informed decision not to put the

1581
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 1: pads on Sunday. I went with Urban, I evaluate my team.

1582
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it's best for my team. Pete, So

1583
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: three offensive linemen around the final preseason game. Of course,

1584
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 1: you don't play him if everybody's health. That's not true.

1585
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 1: If they come out and they're smoking it in the

1586
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: second preseason game and they're tight, we have a good

1587
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: week of practice. I'm saying, boys, hang out. Question if

1588
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: this was a normal preseason with like it used to be,

1589
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: with four preseason games, how would you play him? I'd go, um,

1590
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: one series. I mean to series the first preseason game,

1591
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: a quarter in a half, kind of like somewhere, a

1592
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: quarter in a little bit, second preseason game, full half

1593
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: series in the third preseason game. Nothing in the fourth

1594
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: preseason game. So so two weeks before the regular season started,

1595
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: you would play more than a half. Now you're two

1596
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: weeks out and you're only gonna you're not gonna play him.

1597
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 1: He fell right into that one. And I probably, and

1598
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 1: really what I probably, I might not play him at

1599
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: all in the first preseason game. I saw that one

1600
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Speaker 1: coming a mile and a half and half that game's

1601
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. No, I'm talking the old system, the four

1602
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: preseason games. But this guy, this time you have to

1603
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: play him. Yeah, you play him. I would think I'm

1604
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 1: playing him. Yeah, let's see if we could go to

1605
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Speaker 1: break JP and Tony will change his urban. If you're listening,

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Speaker 1: ten x L. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: a Monday. Glad you're a long with us. The first

1680
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: Monday show of the one campaign. J P. Shadrick, Tony Vasselli,

1681
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, your social questions coming up in moments, Tony Vasselli,

1682
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 1: you have a comment. To be clear, there was no

1683
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 1: flip flopping, Pete. There was. I said from the beginning,

1684
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: two series or a quarter in the first preseason game,

1685
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 1: a half in one series in the second preseason game,

1686
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 1: nothing in the third preason's preseason game. I didn't did

1687
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: make an amendment of a possibility if the team did

1688
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: not play well and I needed more reps, that I'd

1689
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: be open to some time in the third preseason game.

1690
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: But you always have to weigh reps versus risk, and

1691
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: if you have a good camp, good first preseason game,

1692
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,799
Speaker 1: good second preseason game, have a good week of practice,

1693
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 1: you do not need that third preseason game. I'm standing

1694
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: by that. That's my position and that's what I said.

1695
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: It got muddled up because Pete likes the twist words

1696
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,879
Speaker 1: and take things out of context. He's a typical reporter

1697
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: that misquotes you and then prints it in the paper

1698
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: and says, this is a story. Typical Tony allowed two

1699
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 1: sacks today. But yeah, go ahead, you wanta you wanna

1700
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 1: take a side on that. Can you fixture your butt

1701
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: so they don't look like you're like, don't looks like

1702
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: you're an alien? Hey, JP, you want to take it?

1703
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: Take pick a side? Who is right? So we're keeping

1704
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: score on keeping it real? I think starting now, so

1705
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 1: I think pete one. No, he did not. He copied me,

1706
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: said Tony, did you Then when I came back and

1707
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I asked you, how would you handle it if it

1708
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: was a regular pondoth ways, I'm getting all kinds of

1709
01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 1: tweets and saying Tony was clearly um clearer and considren't

1710
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: tell your family to make you look good. Concise is concise?

1711
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: Is not in Tony's dictionary. That doesn't work. That's not

1712
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 1: how it works. For when I won the argument in

1713
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 1: large part because when I came back and asked him

1714
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: how he would play it if it was a four

1715
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 1: week preseason like the old days, he said he would

1716
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 1: have played him in the third week, and that was it.

1717
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: The case was closed. There bang the gabble. It's over.

1718
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Case dismissed. Pete win me the case of Robert Mundabi.

1719
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: And that's for a case on the winner. Losers get

1720
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 1: a bottle, winners get a game. I love it. It

1721
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: pays to win, man. I mean, so all year you'll

1722
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: get you get a bottle. By the end of the year,

1723
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: you'll have a case. Let's get to social media questions.

1724
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 1: We put out the bat signal earlier today and here's

1725
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: the best we've come up with today at Sue Winners.

1726
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: Guys were happy year back. I'm misstating how much of

1727
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: a difference of sports performance model Myers brought into the

1728
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 1: team has made. As I would have thought, by now,

1729
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 1: most if not all clubs will be doing similar things

1730
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: in this area. Pete. They've added so many facilities here

1731
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 1: in the off season, cryo tank, hot cold tubs, all

1732
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: these things that they didn't have before. And Urban has

1733
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 1: made an emphasis. It's not the only place in the

1734
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: league that does this, though, is it. No. I was

1735
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: at my anti practice facility the other day. You should

1736
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: see the thing. It's incredible. They just built it. It's

1737
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: right outside the stadium. It's phenomenal and that and that's

1738
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,600
Speaker 1: the next step for Jacksonville. He kudos to Urban for

1739
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: bringing all that stuff in there. You have to have it.

1740
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: They just don't have the room for it. They need

1741
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,560
Speaker 1: a facility, and I think it's gonna get done. It

1742
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: needs to get done. I will be real melancholy when

1743
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,759
Speaker 1: they do build the practice facility, in large part because

1744
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 1: that means the days of the reporters sitting on the

1745
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: bench outside wait for guys to come out to get

1746
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: the real story will be over. So the interesting thing

1747
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 1: about the comment about the sports performance, I agree with Pete.

1748
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: I love it. As a player, do everything you can

1749
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean as it's I mean for the players as

1750
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 1: a staff, do everything you can to make sure they're

1751
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 1: ready to perform at the highest level, and it gives

1752
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: them more value for themselves as well. I think it's great.

1753
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: I love it. I would love and I mean paid

1754
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: the close enough attention. It would be interesting to do

1755
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 1: at the end of this camp does and it's such

1756
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 1: a small sample size, you perhaps to do it over

1757
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: years by having these extra facilities and these extra treatments

1758
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 1: and you know, cryoh and massage and hot cold, warm, whatever, tubs,

1759
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean all the different stuff, which again all four

1760
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: I love it. As a player, I would have been

1761
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 1: all about it is. I wonder what the difference is.

1762
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: Is there a direct correlation to less injuries, especially soft

1763
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 1: tissue injuries? I think that. I mean, you can't the

1764
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 1: guy blowing his knee out getting rolled up in a

1765
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: pile and that's I mean, there's no bearing but soft

1766
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: tissue injuries. I wonder if there's a direct correlation that

1767
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: you can measure, it would be interesting. It would be

1768
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 1: interesting to measure that over a long period of time.

1769
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean one year you're not gonna do it, but like,

1770
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,759
Speaker 1: over a five year period, did you lessen the number

1771
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 1: of soft tissue in injuries? Yet have come a long

1772
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: way from sprinkling creaton on the French Fries and the

1773
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: Gaffetheria Like it's amazing though how a few people miss

1774
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: stuff back then, Pete, only because everyone's afraid the death

1775
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 1: to go to the training room. You remember, do you

1776
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: remember remember when used to being ocean, used to joke there,

1777
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: remember everywhere? But you know what I mean, it's just

1778
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,480
Speaker 1: it's a different mentality. I mean, it's incredible the facilities

1779
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: nowadays and a player. I would have loved it because

1780
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 1: you don't pay for it anymore on your you know

1781
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: what Brian Flores told me the other day, goes. It

1782
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,600
Speaker 1: keeps the guys around longer. That's when it builds camaraderie.

1783
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: You don't you don't get out of there quickly in

1784
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 1: the off season, even because there's so much right there.

1785
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 1: If you've got all that stuff right there, you don't

1786
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 1: need to go get a massage somewhere else. You don't

1787
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: need to go get crying therapy somewhere else. The food

1788
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: is good. I mean it just it just makes sense

1789
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: for teams to do that. I love it, and I'm

1790
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 1: just jealous. Who wasn't around when I was a player.

1791
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Let's move along to our next question from at Jay

1792
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: Hopkins b G S. Has Cama, Robinson or a Walker

1793
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 1: Little reached out to Tony um One. That's a private conversation.

1794
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: I like to you sound like a player now. I

1795
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 1: have had um conversations with Cam over the years, and

1796
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 1: I traded text messages with Walker after you got drafted.

1797
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 1: And I'll leave it at that. And we're not ready

1798
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 1: to call anybody baby BASSELLI Yeah, just like over the years,

1799
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: every guy that's ever been called that. It's almost like

1800
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: a curse. Baby, I'll say the same thing. And I know, Pete,

1801
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 1: you never you always like say oh stop number one,

1802
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: don't care it's done. Like let them be their own players,

1803
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: like like Camera Robinson, let me go be the left tackle,

1804
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 1: and I hope, I hope he exceeds what I did,

1805
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: and I hope he's a better player than I was,

1806
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 1: because that means it's good for our franchise. And if

1807
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 1: it's not Camera Robinson, I hope it's Walker Little and

1808
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 1: I hope John Taylor playing right tackles better than I

1809
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: was and better than Leon Sarci was. I mean, that's

1810
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: what you want for the franchise. I'd be leaning to

1811
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: know on them. But Pete, you know what I mean

1812
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 1: as an ex player, if you left the franchise, it's

1813
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 1: not like about like, oh, you don't want anyone Like no, Yes,

1814
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 1: I want him to be better. I want to have

1815
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 1: great careers. I want to make a ton of money,

1816
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: and I want us to win a super Bowl. Mike

1817
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Pearson was baby BASSELLI never worked out. Luke Joko, Baby

1818
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: BASSELLI never worked out. Maybe they stopped calling them that. Yeah,

1819
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: I would I never liked I never liked the moniker anyways,

1820
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: that and what they've had four or five padded practices

1821
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 1: in camp already. It's so early played a preseason game. Yeah,

1822
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: Loggs and I were talking about that, Pete, like, the

1823
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: total amount of padded practices they'll have in quote unquote

1824
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: camp we would have had in the first week of camp.

1825
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: Think about that. It's incredible. I was telling one of

1826
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: the telled Shack Barrett, he was all sweaty after practice

1827
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: and I go, he goes, it's hot out here, and

1828
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: I go, no idea, dude. Ray Perkins used to have

1829
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 1: three practices a day, three no padded. We never had

1830
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: three days. I remember we'd have two practice and the

1831
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 1: walk through and the two practice were in the heat

1832
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 1: of the day and they were both padded and you're

1833
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 1: going full speed and just beating the hell out of me. Now,

1834
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: And by the way, this isn't the old guy said, Oh,

1835
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: we were tougher. Should have been Like my idea is,

1836
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 1: like I like what they do now, Like it would

1837
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: have been better you guys would go to one than

1838
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 1: two again, right, it was never two, two and two. No,

1839
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: it was so the first year it was two too

1840
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: too too, too, too too two two. In the second

1841
01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: year it was two too too, too, too too two.

1842
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 1: The third year, when we thought we got the break,

1843
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 1: it was two one to one. Right, that's right Steven's point.

1844
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: It was too too, too, too too for sure. And

1845
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: I thought the second year he evolved a little bit.

1846
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: Well maybe the second year was too to one, to

1847
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 1: to one, and then it was to one to one.

1848
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,640
Speaker 1: But they were they were all in pad. Everything was

1849
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 1: in pads. You know what's gone middle drill is gone

1850
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: nine seven then and where they pound it really hard

1851
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 1: that the other day first day, and a lot of

1852
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: teams are how about like when you used to start

1853
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 1: practice with goal on Remember that goal was always they

1854
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: always had like after week one or something, goal line

1855
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: was live. It was a live drill. And that's even

1856
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 1: up to last last year, the last couple of years.

1857
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 1: But you always have to is anybody tackling? They don't

1858
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 1: tackle there, right, No, I some places do though, yeah,

1859
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: not many though. Yeah. Let's get a couple more questions,

1860
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 1: and and let's go to the question number four, Brent

1861
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: and at duval Noll. If we keep six wide receivers,

1862
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: who do we keep? Seems like it would be difficult

1863
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: to cut Treadwell at this point. Well, let's do a

1864
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 1: quick count and I got the list right here. Good

1865
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: for you. Um let's go. We got well, you know

1866
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 1: the visiness's not on the team. Marvin Jones on the team.

1867
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: J J. Chark on the team. Yes, even though he

1868
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 1: had surgery. Yes, but Retyer said okay, three. Um, then

1869
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 1: you start getting Dorset man. I already had a gun bunch, right.

1870
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 1: Colin Johnson, Colin Johnson, I'd say he's on the team.

1871
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: I think I think Jalen Camp is on the team

1872
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: because he's a big, physical guy who can play special teams.

1873
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Speaker 1: I think that's fine. But that's got to play special team.

1874
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: Agnew on the team. He's a kick returning special team

1875
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: doesn't really count as a receiver. Though, that's six. You

1876
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 1: need one more Sea tread Well seven. Who am I cutting?

1877
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: There's like receivers, but with which guy of any note

1878
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 1: is being caught? Dorsett Philip Dorset and Tavon Austin. They're

1879
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: both first round picks. Yeah, but they're older. And maybe

1880
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,560
Speaker 1: now here's the thing. If you keep tread Well and

1881
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 1: you keep Camp jail and Camp, do you get rid

1882
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: of Collin Johnson because he doesn't run. And Urban Meyer

1883
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: like speed team and those other guys are big and fast.

1884
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 1: Colin Johnson is just big and not a speed speed guy.

1885
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: There are six receivers probably on somebody else's roster right now.

1886
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 1: That could be another thing. Yeah, first waiver claim all

1887
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: that well, JP had him trading for Michael Thomas, which

1888
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Pete immediately shut down, saying bad idea. First off, you

1889
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 1: do like speed, he doesn't run, No, he does not, big,

1890
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Speaker 1: big guy. Let's get our final question in at Dan

1891
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Speaker 1: eight three eight one. Who got in better shape during

1892
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 1: the break? Crisco or Bisselly. My money's on the cell

1893
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 1: because I'm terrible. Yeah, I'm not much the first. However,

1894
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,600
Speaker 1: I would actually, I would actually see you. It's a

1895
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 1: tie for last. Yeah, it's not. I'm a Pete. I'm

1896
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: not in a good position because it's it's fat ball

1897
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,679
Speaker 1: season and I'm already fat. Yeah, but you know what, though,

1898
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I had a lazy summer and I've worked out and stuff.

1899
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 1: But I ate bad, you know, but I'm trying to

1900
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 1: be better leading into the season. Give me a month.

1901
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 1: I got a call on us to be coming up

1902
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 1: at the end of the month. Too much information, t

1903
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 1: M I, t M, I do not need to hear

1904
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 1: about your medical issues or procedures. A few of the

1905
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 1: five extra pounds underneath. That's great, Pete, this is a

1906
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: family show. Yeah great, let's come back. Thanks for the questions,

1907
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: every one. We'll get to him again next week. Let's

1908
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,640
Speaker 1: come back. We'll go around the NFL wrap it up

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1970
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Speaker 1: Hour on a Monday, the first Monday program with one season.

1971
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Speaker 1: J P Shadrick Tony was selling Pete Frisco Jil Fortunato

1972
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 1: on the audio, Brent Reaver on the video side, tryp Padilla.

1973
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: You know, yes, what what of one of many things

1974
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: you hate? What has want? Well? This time here because

1975
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: Pete loves doing it. He loves cutting down the roster,

1976
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 1: he loves cutting people. We got about eight minutes if

1977
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: you want to do it, No, I hate it, like

1978
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 1: even going through the wider's Sievers because like like Philip

1979
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 1: door Set might be the guy that may. I mean,

1980
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: we're sitting here like making guesses. It's not like we're

1981
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 1: watching enough tape to really determine who's having the better camp,

1982
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: whether it's Philip door Said or you know, Colin Johnson

1983
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 1: or what they're looking for, because a lot of times

1984
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're they're six receivers not

1985
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: on the roster, you know, but but you don't know.

1986
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 1: And I mean I throughout Jalen camp out there, I'm

1987
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:27,679
Speaker 1: just assuming that they you know, he's a good specialties player.

1988
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: He looks I haven't watched one special team period. It

1989
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: also shows there's a significant drop from three down. Well,

1990
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: I think I think the message to the fans is

1991
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 1: and this is, you know, because you know, who knows.

1992
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: Maybe uh Josh Hammond, who had a bunch of catches,

1993
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 1: maybe he you know, shows up and does something. I mean,

1994
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 1: who knows. I think the message more than anything. The

1995
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 1: three guys that we know, I would I say, I

1996
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 1: don't know, I would be really confident are on the

1997
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 1: roster or dj HRC, Marvin Jones and Levis Chanel. And

1998
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 1: that's that's it. There's a drop down after that, and

1999
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:12,839
Speaker 1: then I think after that it's wide open. Yeah, that's Travis.

2000
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 1: Travis E. T N plays wide receiver too. He lines

2001
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: up out there something. He's still running back, I know,

2002
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 1: but he plays out but it's like he's been making

2003
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 1: some catches the last couple of days. By the way,

2004
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 1: it's like running back. It's easy. The top three, I

2005
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: can tell you. I mean, unless something drastic happens or

2006
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 1: something gets surt, it's Travis E. T N. It's Carlos Hyde,

2007
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: it's James Robinson. Pretty easy tight end, pretty easy. I

2008
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 1: don't know if Titans is easy. Number one? How many

2009
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 1: you're keeping four? Because one of them will be the fullback.

2010
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 1: So if you're keeping four, you're keeping Ohaughnessy and then

2011
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 1: who else you keep the rookie Luke Farrell? Yes, and

2012
01:53:55,200 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 1: then you'd probably keep Elson and then you you got

2013
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 1: then it becomes Tyler Davis or Tebow in the practice squad,

2014
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 1: which I think it'll be Tyler Davis. I think Tebow

2015
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 1: is the six tight end on the at A six.

2016
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you disagree, um do? I disagree from what I've

2017
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:25,600
Speaker 1: seen though, Okay, so you know, but I mean, but

2018
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 1: it's still earlier. I mean, there's so much stuff that

2019
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 1: can happen between now, especially talking about right now the

2020
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 1: Jaguars tight end some of the other ones. You know,

2021
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 1: it's like obvious the Jaguars tight end situation outside of

2022
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: O'Shaughnessy and uh Mannards is wide open. It will be

2023
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 1: decided during the preseason. Kind of seemed like the same

2024
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: kind of guy to me, is going to be on

2025
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: the te like you like you talk about Tebow, he's

2026
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 1: being the six guy. Okay, maybe now what if he

2027
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: goes out in games and just like dominates the one

2028
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: thing that you know, he flashes it times good stuff.

2029
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 1: Then there's other things, like you watch his blocking ability.

2030
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 1: He needs to work on his physicality, especially if he's

2031
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: gonna be that fullback. Hasn't been great and what I've

2032
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 1: seen haven't seen it all. So maybe he's flashing at

2033
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 1: times being really physical. He's not a very physical player

2034
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 1: at the point of attack. The day I saw him,

2035
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,400
Speaker 1: they pulled him on a play and he ducked his

2036
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: head and the defensive end went right around them. And

2037
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 1: so if you want to be that move tight end

2038
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: fullback lead up on there in linebackers, you gotta be

2039
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: a physical dude, and Jeff Logman said it best. Being

2040
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 1: physical and tough as a quarterback is different than being

2041
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 1: physical and tough as a position player, like a tight

2042
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 1: end or full back. Okay, so what number is he

2043
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 1: as a tight end position? Right now? In your mind?

2044
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 1: Haven't we just gone through this? Well? He I mean,

2045
01:55:53,240 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: can you really distinguish between Tebow, Elveson and Davis? Is

2046
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 1: it that is that big a deal? Is David? I

2047
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 1: think it's between Davis and Tebow and the practice squad,

2048
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's right now, and then they

2049
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 1: got three weeks to go, so I think it's early.

2050
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Like that's still close, Pete, is my point is number one?

2051
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: You know, I hate this more than anything. That's what

2052
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 1: we're doing. Number Two, it is early, and like those

2053
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 1: are really competitive positions. Let's touch on some notes from

2054
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Pete, your guy in Buffalo

2055
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 1: got paid quarterback Josh Allen's bringing on the Bacon. Hey, Look,

2056
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: they finally have their quarterback that they've been looking for

2057
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 1: from Jim Colt since Jim Kelly's all kinds of guy.

2058
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 1: Pat Patrick Mahomes signed one year too early. No, I

2059
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 1: meant tear that up again, burden the hand. I guess

2060
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: here's my point. Did Patrick Mahomes signed too long of

2061
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 1: a deal? Probably? Yes, Like why wouldn't he just settled,

2062
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 1: I'll sign a four year deal? Right? He did sign

2063
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 1: too long a deal. I don't think there's any doubt

2064
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 1: about that. But how do you turn that money down

2065
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 1: when they put in front of it? Depends how much

2066
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 1: of that back in guaranteed though. Yeah, he got a

2067
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 1: lot of guaranteed money. Alan got more, you know, also

2068
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of money. It was Shawn Watson and

2069
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 1: John McClain of the Houston Chronicle Today said, quote on Twitter,

2070
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 1: Watson will never play another down for the Texans. End quote.

2071
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 1: So where's he playing? Who's going to trade for him

2072
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: right now? No? But it's it's too big a risk.

2073
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean you can't. I mean there's crimical there's there's

2074
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 1: a criminal investigation. If I understanding the late reports going on,

2075
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 1: there's twenty two women who have civil charges against him.

2076
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's guilty. I'm just saying that's a

2077
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: lot of drama going on. And if I'm a GM,

2078
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Speaker 1: I'm not trading first round draft picks plus getting up

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Speaker 1: salary for a guy that might not play for a while,

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Speaker 1: and it's hard to It's hard to in this climate

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Speaker 1: and everything, it's hard to you sell that to your

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Speaker 1: fan base. You can't. Giants running back c Kwon Barkley

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Speaker 1: will return from the pup list today. That was the plan.

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Speaker 1: They certainly missed him a year ago. How much better

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Speaker 1: and how much better does does he make them? Pete? Well,

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Speaker 1: he makes them better, but he's a running back. You

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Speaker 1: know how I feel about that? Um again, though he

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Speaker 1: might not play week one, just an f y I

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Speaker 1: because yes, not all the way back and Pete, but

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Speaker 1: when didn't he get hurt early in the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the opposite of Adrian Peterson. Correct our final

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Speaker 1: thought Hall of Fame induction speeches. In the ensfrinment ceremony

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days, Peyton Mannings was challenging everyone

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Speaker 1: to make the game better. Tony, at what point in

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Speaker 1: your speech will you include Pete Prisco? First of all,

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Speaker 1: I have not been elected to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that like next year some breaking news,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not going to talk about that. Thank you

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Speaker 1: JP next year. Next year, I will tell you this.

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Speaker 1: J Pete over the course in the last decade, maybe

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Speaker 1: not a decade, but eight nine years, seven eight nine years,

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Speaker 1: I've pestered a lot of writers and they run from

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Speaker 1: me now because they know I'm gonna talk about Tony

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Speaker 1: and they literally I see him there go here he comes.

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Speaker 1: And so this year, for the first time ever, guys

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Speaker 1: have been coming up to me bringing it up and saying,

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Speaker 1: your guys getting in this year. We'll see like it.

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Speaker 1: I like it. That's a good first show, guys. Pete

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Speaker 1: will talk to you next week. Pete, you will later

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Speaker 1: next Monday. So you're here now, I'm in Minnesota. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's a little different from here. That's Pete Prisco, CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports Senior writer. That's Tony Boselli, prior of the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: left tackle. I'm J. P. Shatrick. Will catch you next time.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.