WEBVTT - The Epstein Files: What We Know So Far 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.680 From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:09.080 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.119 learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:17.600 production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.680 Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:30.560 Name is not They called me Ben. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.720 We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.920 Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.640 That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.880 Quick warning at the top, fellow conspiracy realist, this episode 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:50.400 may not be appropriate for all audiences. We are returning 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:55.320 tonight with a new installment in our unfortunately ongoing series 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:02.920 about the disgraced financier and sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein and guys. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.400 As we had pointed out I think on Strange News recently, 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.440 we have been following this story for quite some time. 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.640 I think around twenty nineteen we started. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.440 I think that's right, some years for sure. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.319 Yeah, that was the first time we did a full 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.120 episode on the dude and his sweetheart deal that he 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:27.240 got from the Justice Department after you know, being child 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:27.840 sex offender. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:33.680 Yep, plus you know, I mean, that doesn't even cover it. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:34.000 Doesn't. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:35.080 Right. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:39.120 Yeah, the degrees of which this guy has operated in 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.520 that despicable space. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.560 Is mind boggling. Well, in the biggest part of the 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.000 Epstein story the whole time has been the other people 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.240 that have been around him. Right, It's never the Jeffrey 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.800 Epstein story. It is the folks that Jeffrey runs with 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:55.760 and does things with. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:56.400 Right. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.760 In our previous episodes, we explore the rhy and fall 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.320 of Epstein from his early life to his official death 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.080 on August tenth, twenty nineteen. We also dive deep into 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:13.480 those conspiracies allegations that cover up surrounding the numerous scandals 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.680 and people associated with Epstein, as well as his massive 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:23.200 web of alleged and proven connections. We also talk about Galay, 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:27.560 Maxwell and Moore. So now we are returning to suss 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:33.200 out some profoundly disturbing revelations that keep popping up in 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.960 the wake of this predator's death. Please note, folks, we 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:41.080 are recording this on Monday, March second, twenty twenty six. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.240 Hopefully we can get some questions answered. This is the 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.119 Epstein Files what we know so far. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:58.440 It's definitely sus. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:59.760 Here are the facts, all right, guys? Are we bubbled gentlemen, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:06.240 are are we assuming that everybody already knows about Jeffrey Epstein? 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.840 I feel like everybody. I think it's mainstream. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.880 I think it's penetrated beyond the bubble. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.440 Yeah, I think we know everything about this dude at 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:13.919 this point. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.600 All so, for anyone who has been under a rock 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.160 or falling for the Department of Justices current shenanigans. More 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:26.480 on that in a bit. Jeffrey Epstein, we explore this 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.679 in depth. He was born on January twentieth, nineteen fifty three. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.160 His parents seem to be pretty normal people. They're not billionaires. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.480 His childhood acquaintances later go on to describe him as 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:44.640 kind of quiet, cheerful, pretty bright, average kid, gift for mathematics, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.760 and then we know things got really weird when he 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.520 was about twenty one years old and started teaching at 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:52.480 the Dalton School. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.680 Right, he spent some time with Bear Stearns and began 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:01.720 to rise in the ranks of high finance and beyond 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:07.080 really the beginnings of what would ultimately become a global 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:08.840 human trafficking empire. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.800 Well, yeah, and he really started to get his wealth 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.800 when he hooked up with Les Wexner. This billionaire dude 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.159 that basically ran all the stores in the mall that 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.080 you can imagine, the limiteds and the limited twos and 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.320 the Victorious Secrets and the I was going to say bed, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.560 Bath and beyond, it's the bed it's the bath and 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.120 bodyworks and shops and the candle shops. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.360 Like he literally owned the candle company. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.760 The whatever the one is. I don't think he's Yankees, 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.560 the one that's inside the bath and body works, okay, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.880 because you can get White Barn or something. But he 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.040 owned all of these things. And then he brings in 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.000 this guy, Jeffrey Epstein, to be basically his financial manager 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.040 in a lot of ways, and that's where he really 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.280 gains his wealth, Jeffrey Epstein's wealth. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:53.880 Yeah. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.680 And I propose already here at the jump, I propose 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.760 that we do two more episod sudes on this subject, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.560 one about Zoro Ranch now Rafael Ranch, and one about 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:15.400 the financial Intelligence agency connections, because following the money on 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:20.080 Victoria's Secret guy gets really interesting and real murky very quickly. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.680 Then you get into the service capital management with a 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.080 dude that's currently you know, in charge of the Pentagon 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.880 right now at least from the civilian side, and there's 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.640 connections up the wazoo going through all of this stuff. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:36.280 And so many rumors of Epstein himself being you know, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.600 an operative of some kind. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.839 Yeah, yeah, And I'm I'm moving toward that disposition to 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:43.520 be quite off it. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:44.320 It feels that way. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.479 I mean, at the very least, just just knows far 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.400 too much, you know, to be allowed to live. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.839 Well, dude, Barack and some of that stuff going, like 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.120 the Masad angle. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.120 Is the banking alone. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.400 Yeah, he can't pretend like it's not there. I mean, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:03.880 if you do, you're doing it willingly, you know what 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.719 I mean. Like that's but at this point, that's where 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:06.040 we are. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:10.160 Oh, there's a lot of willing you know, wool over 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:11.600 eye pulling going on. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:17.320 Blissful ignorance for sure. Eventually we know Epstein's crimes did 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.000 catch up with him. He escaped justice in multiple instances. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.520 As we mentioned there at the top, he was eventually 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.880 convicted of something pretty problematic. Instead of saying that he 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.040 sexually abused a minor, they said he solicited quote an 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.720 underage prostitute. And he went down for this. In two 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:47.640 thousand and eight, he made a mysterious sweetheart plea deal, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.560 and like an unprecedented one that he was indicted again 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:57.600 in twenty nineteen for sex trafficking federal charges. The official 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.120 story is that he died by his own hand in 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:04.480 August of that same year while in prison waiting for 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.640 his trial. The trouble is, as we know well, folks, 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:14.119 years later here in twenty twenty six, a great many 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:18.560 people still do not believe that official conclusion. We've talked 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.560 about this. There are numerous questions about the circumstances. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.400 I mean, the missing footage alone with the water mark 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:30.840 of you know, poorly hastily edited using Adobe Premiere. I mean, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.400 it's just you can't make this stuff up. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.440 We've been talking about how CBS in particular has been 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.640 following the trail there of that specific footage that was 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.200 released by the Justice Department when they came out and 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.120 made a big statement, Hey, nothing to see here, we 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.320 got all the footage. Nobody went up near Epstein's cell. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.040 We're all good if you want to continue down that pathway, 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.840 and we can if you want to in here, but 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.880 you can also do it on your own. Just look 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.600 up CBS news coverage currently, you can look up who 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.600 entered Epstein's jail tier the night of his death. Newly 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.800 released videologues appear to contradict official accounts. That's from the 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.640 second of February in twenty twenty six, and it does 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.440 appear to show that somebody wearing an orange jumpsuit went 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.080 up to Jeffrey Epstein's cell. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:21.240 Yeah, we also know that the charges were dropped against 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:25.280 the guards. They went to court for a minute because 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.560 of their odd behavior and the fact that they were 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:33.040 asleep at the switch or something, and they went through 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.480 the news cycle and then once the global attention turned 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.280 to something else, they were free. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.600 I mean, all of this just reeks of fall guy. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.840 You know, even Epstein himself feels like the fall guy. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.800 And not to mention Maxwell, who is of course now 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.280 you know, soaking it up with puppies and club fed. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.680 I mean, this is bigger than Epstein as an individual 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.319 or as some sort of mastermind. I think he just represents, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:05.840 you know, the public facing individual behind something much much 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:10.520 much more nefarious and generational and eyes wide shut. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.160 Yeah, putting the news loves a simple story, right, We 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:20.840 love one single individual, one face to put upon a crime, right. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.000 And I agree with you, Noel, that it is bigger 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.160 than Jeffrey Epstein, and I think a lot of journalist 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:31.480 activist in the public overall would agree with us as well, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:37.000 continually pointing to these various disturbing puzzle pieces, and they'll 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.840 ask even now whether Epstein took his own life or 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.680 whether he was murdered or forced to take his own life. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.199 And then a little further along the spectrum, you'll find 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.199 a growing number of people who tell you that they 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.920 don't think Epstein ever actually died. I was surprised to 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.880 hear this when we were hanging out with Killer Mike 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:04.880 with Michael Render. That is his take, and we'll see 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.760 as we get further into this, there are some puzzle 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.960 pieces that are disturbing. But officially took his own life 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:17.000 twenty nineteen, he passed away. It is difficult to fake 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:18.360 one's death well. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.360 For sure, And if that word to have happened, it 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.800 would have had to have happened with the assistance of 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.560 some very powerful people within the government most likely, and 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.280 that narrative just doesn't make sense. It makes much more 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.880 sense that they would have had him killed because he 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:37.000 was the keeper of the keys to this whole operation. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.880 He could name names, you know, we already know all 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.760 this talk of storage facilities littered across the country that 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.320 supposedly have unreleased evidence, you know, dead hand type stuff. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.240 I just don't think they would allow him to go 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.640 chill in the Bahamas or wherever, you know, in some 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:53.400 secret island. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:54.839 That just doesn't make sability. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.200 And that stuff that Jeffrey Epstein put in place, that's 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.520 right to make sure that he would not be killed, right, 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.839 or to make sure if he were going to be killed, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.199 they would pay, and you would know you would pay 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.319 if you were going to kill him. That was all 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.920 part of the setup. That is not I'm no expert, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.200 but in my mind, that is not someone who takes 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:14.839 their own life. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.040 Yeah, tempted to agree as well. I mean, the fancy 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.880 term for faking one's death is pseudo side and it 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:28.000 is again incredibly difficult. Also, it does it not make 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:33.000 you a liability at that point, right, Look, it's sticky 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.160 no matter how you look at it. Even if you 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:40.000 are the most skeptical person out there, you do have 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:44.720 to question all these anomalies and irregularities. And that last 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.679 theory of faking one's death, that would require a lot 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.360 of planning. It would require pretty big cast of characters. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:56.720 But we do know that Epstein knew a lot of people. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:02.720 Politicians of all stripes, professors, celebrities, business tycoons, tons of 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.559 the world's most powerful folks were in one way or 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.560 another in his web. They might not have been aware 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.280 of his sex crimes. That's what a lot of people 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.040 are saying now, like the Clintons and their recent statements 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.600 to Congress. But they people did rub shoulders with him. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.880 They sent off, you know, short, casual, sometimes cryptic emails, 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.000 They went to the same parties. They asked him for 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.800 financial advice. We had you know, his employees asking him 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.800 for money. That's in the emails as well. He was 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:37.760 one of those guys. It seemed like everybody somehow new That's. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:38.280 The thing I mean. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.520 And it's people on both sides politically, it's people that 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:47.160 you might consider to be super innocuous and harmless, like 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.520 I think Stephen Hawking. Was he not not as he's 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.560 inherently innocuous or you know, just like the face of 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.320 pure goodness. But I mean, that's not a dude you 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.600 would have thought to have been wrapped up in things 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.920 like this. So it becomes because you start to see 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.600 so many people connected that you almost is hard parsing 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.920 out who knew what and who was part of it 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.120 and who wasn't, because it's tough to believe maybe that 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.800 everybody knew or that everybody knew everything. So it's really 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.079 easy to muddy the waters by just dropping all these 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.400 names of people that you know are associated with, like, well, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.320 that guy wouldn't have done anything like that. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.080 Well, it's also tough to know to believe when you've 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.800 got someone like Bill Clinton that did you guys see 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:32.400 the video he put out? So he gave sworn testimony, right, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.480 but then he also made a social video where it's 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.400 just him sitting like this in front of a camera 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.640 and talking to us, the American people about what he 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.880 didn't know anything about the crimes and what was going on. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:48.160 So you have it's tough to know, well, am I being, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.880 is this man just lying directly to me and everybody 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.400 else on purpose right now? Is he telling the truth? 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.520 There's no way for us to know. You just got 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:57.880 to choose to believe. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.320 And also not to mention that I am fascinated by 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.600 the fact that he as a counter to a lot 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.960 of the obfuscation that's been going on and you know 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.560 Trump saying like, well, my buddy Bill Clinton, you know no. 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.880 Clinton was like, release it, release all of it. You know, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.480 I've got nothing toe And that to me is has 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.440 the ring of truth to it. When you're putting it 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.680 all out there like that in the face of people 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.080 that are covering up, you're saying, don't. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.320 Do it on my account. Yeah. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.360 He had some bangers in his testimony as well, Old 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.480 Slick Willie. There was one line that stood out to 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.760 me where he said he said, since I'm on the oath, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.080 I will not say I'm looking forward to your questions. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.920 I will say I am ready to answer that. I mean, 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.600 that's like we have nothing to fear but fear itself, 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:47.800 you know. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.840 I mean that's good, Yes, good rhetoric. Correct, And it was. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.720 It was tense for sure. We also know that Epstein 0:14:54.880 --> 0:15:00.760 kept a lot of records. He wanted documents pat of 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.960 his interactions with all of these powerful people. Much of 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:11.000 this was later collected in criminal investigations. Over three hundred 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.120 gigs of data as well as other media, are in 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:20.640 the FBI's Sentinel case management system, which is itself another episode. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.280 Have you guys heard about Sentinel? 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:23.040 I don't think I have. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:29.120 It's the solution to the FBI's problem with documentation and 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.400 organizing cases. It's kind of like the Palenteer for their 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:37.040 case management. And it is a foreign owned company. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:37.440 Wow. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.840 Yeah, now that's the first I've heard of that. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.520 What a creepy name too, I guess I think of 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.520 the mean robots in the X Men. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.800 All this data, this aggregate data is that's what's loosely 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:54.320 known as the Epstein Files. Millions of documents, emails, videos, images, 0:15:54.800 --> 0:16:01.600 court filings, transcripts, other artifacts. Also Epsteins quote unquote little 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.280 black book, like his rolodex, his list of contacts, uh, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.520 the flight logs for his planes. In these files, we 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.640 also find loads of similar names from both the public 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:18.400 sphere and earlier episodes of our show. Thinking for example 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:23.520 of Peter Teel, who speaks quite a bit with Epstein. 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.840 Jannis Joplin's in there, guys, Kurt Cobain, Sorry, we'll get 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.240 to that. The recent just drop of like a list 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.000 of names that were mentioned in zero context for the 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:39.520 nature of their mentioning, including some long dead rock stars. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.920 Wow, I didn't know Janis Joplin. I'm looking forward to 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:43.200 that one. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.600 No, yeah, but yeah, this is just human beings dropping 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:47.400 names and emails. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.400 Right, But the way they released it was just like here, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.080 look at this, zero contexts are like. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:54.800 Flooding the zone. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:17:01.120 Well, it's just these are these are thousands of emails, right, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:05.119 millions of emails and documents. So there are just there 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.520 are a bunch of a bunch of names in there 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.320 in places and people that have nothing to do with 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:09.800 any crime. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.800 So what's the point of releasing that as a list 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.480 if not to just dilute to the situation and distract 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.000 bit Yeah. 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.080 To flood the zone. Quoting against Steve Bannon, who also 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:25.119 shows up in the Epstein Files. Now, why you're asking yourself, folks, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.399 as you're tuning in and thanks for joining us, you're saying, guys, 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.440 why do we even know some of this? 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:32.200 Right? 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:37.800 Because the victim and survivor statements were ignored for years decades. Indeed, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.840 we know a lot of this because back in November 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.560 of twenty twenty five, US Congress passed something called the 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:51.760 Epstein Files Transparency Act. This mandates Uncle Sam to quote 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:57.240 make publicly available in a searchable and downloadable format, all 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:02.240 files pertaining to Epstein everything, Gary Oldman, Gift right, and 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.040 Sir here. Along with there is the sticky part, an 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:10.000 unredacted list of old government officials and what they call 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:14.800 politically exposed persons named in the files. Now, I want 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.320 to be honest with everybody, I'm not quite clear on 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.000 what politically exposed persons means. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.920 Well, it certainly it doesn't mean what maybe it would 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:31.600 once mean in this climate, as we see careers being ruined, 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.760 people being arrested in other parts of the country as 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.119 a result of their participation or their names being named. 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.760 But over here doesn't seem to do a damn thing 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.240 in terms of like being politically exposed, and that being 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.720 something that would actually bring someone down just seems like 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:51.320 another you know, string of fall guys and minor slaps 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.480 on wrists, And I don't know, I just don't know 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.600 what it even means these days to be politically exposed. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.760 It feels like a chess move. It feels like they're 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.000 positioning to aim at some peace. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.080 I'm trying to think of people who've actually in the 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.760 US who have faced consequence or have been let go. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:06.679 I know there are a few doctors who have been 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.400 let go by institutions who show up in the files. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.600 A couple professors retired. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.359 Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, and that's because like in the 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.720 case of the doctors, they appear to be only in 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.440 the fact that they are providing services to girls, young 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:25.360 women who are a part of Jeffrey's thing, and they're 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.480 also they're usually doing it in a way that would 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.119 not be the normal way, like a normal doctor patient 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:35.359 relationship kind of deal. It's like the concierge doctor thing 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.000 that you have, like a house call, like a doctor 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.280 at Mount Sinai that you can call who happens to 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.800 run the breast cancer research side, like an entire thing. 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.520 But she also used to date Jeffrey Epstein. And also 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.480 she was a beauty pageant queen at one point, but 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.440 now she's married to a different billionaire. But she has 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.680 connection to all these other people fascinating stuff. 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.080 And is willing to bend the room. Some of those 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.720 doctors I'm looking forward to diving into, well looking forward 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.800 it's not correct, but we do have to dive into 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.159 some of that. We also know, we know some of 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.640 what's been released. Folks were talking about the Epstein files, 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.959 but as we record again on Monday March second, twenty 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:21.760 twenty six, these files have still only been partially released, 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.960 and a portion of what has been released has also 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.800 been scrubbed from the Internet and then put back online, 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:33.720 and it's also been redacted imperfectly in some cases. Right, 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.639 we all remember the copy and paste story from Gosh 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:38.840 that was earlier last year. 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.280 I want to mean in some of the reactions, yeah 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.240 about how you could just load them up in Adobe 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.240 and yeah, easily just remove the layer. I know we're 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.080 going to get into it too, but all the four 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:55.000 Chance stuff, guys. Yes, there's so much fascinating new stuff 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.560 about that and what Pizzagate really was, and the idea 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.840 of once again been flooding the zone in advance of 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.680 some of these allegations coming out in order to further 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:05.919 I'm sorry we should hold off. 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.359 I mean, it's just we've got to get to it. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.280 We know good, we know. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:16.119 This entire scandal has only become more controversial as time continues. 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:20.840 The public is accusing the FBI, the Justice Department, and 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.920 a lot of politicians have actively covered up the crimes 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.280 in the Epstein files of protecting powerful people from being 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:35.439 identified as co conspirators collaborators of Jeffrey Epstein, possibly in 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:40.359 shady financial dealings, but also more directly in the horrific 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:44.040 sexual abuse of children. So the DOJ real quick on 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:48.000 the timeline, folks. In response to this outcry, they release 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.960 an additional three point five million or so pages of 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.760 EPSTEIN files in January of this year, twenty twenty six. 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.600 This also includes around two thousand videos one hundred and 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.000 eighty thousand images, some of which are going to keep 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.720 you up at night disturbing, Yeah. 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:12.040 Because they in several of them, they did not redact 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.800 the victim's faces nights, but they did redact the abusers' 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.040 faces and names. 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.520 I mean that was a big problem too. I mean, 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.159 so many of the abusers, or at least a handful 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.640 of them, were doxed in some of these drops, and 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.480 the Justice Department never apologized for it. But weirdly the 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:34.400 names of potential co conspirators seemed to have been redacted. 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:35.920 Yeah, many times. 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.600 It's not under the terms of the law, which there 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.959 was a law that forced the release of this stuff, 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.800 as we know. I don't call the exact official name, 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.840 but that was what led to this these drops, and 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.600 they were supposed to get more, but it appears that we're. 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.000 Not going to the Epstein transparency yet, Thank you, Ben. 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.840 It wasn't until members of Congress approached the Department of 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:58.800 Justice and said, hey, you forgot to do these things, 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:01.320 and you did all the these other things. You need to 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.160 fix it, and then several of them, to I guess 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.840 the credit of the DOJ, they fix them, but only 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.879 after giving certain congress people access to these files like 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.760 personal quiet, access to these files. 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:18.360 On hardwired machines, mind you, in or their department. They 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.639 let them come in, take a look for a couple 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.760 of hours, I mean, that's what we're talking. 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:26.320 And then walk out without those files, without copies of them. 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:31.520 Basically skiff rules. And we know that right now. Well 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:37.879 as of February, three people aside from Galain Maxwell, have 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:43.840 undergone criminal investigations due to what was revealed in the 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:51.359 Epstein files. And these three people are they're high value 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.440 targets you could call them, but none of them are 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:59.480 from the United States. It's the Norwegian former Norwegian prime minister. 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:03.560 It's this real pill over in the UK, Andrew and 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.840 then another British guy, a politician named Peter Mandelsson. 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.040 Yeah, I believe Andrew got stripped of his princely title 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:15.480 and down to a smaller estate. You know, he no 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.479 longer gets a castle or something like that. I mean, 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:20.080 that's what we're talking here, and that is ongoing. He 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.520 was arrested and collared, put in you know, given a 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:25.280 purp walk, which is a big deal. 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.880 But I wouldn't hold my breath ready jail time. 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.800 And Peter Mandelsson was the he was in some way. 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.119 He was in the House of Lords, right, I believe 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.760 that's correct, the right honorable Lord Mandelsson. 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.960 I love, right, honorable. By the way, I am sad 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.280 that we don't have that in the United States. 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.760 He's a former UK ambassador to the US. 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:51.879 That's okay, And he had some sketchy financial dealings. And also, 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.600 by the way, folks, as we mentioned in our previous 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.280 Strange News program, which you can find wherever you find 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:04.159 your favorite shows, Prince Andrew did not get arrested for 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:09.760 allegations of sexual abuse. He got arrested for insider trading. 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.760 Basically, I thought it was some sort. 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:14.680 Of like political misconduct of some kind. It was a 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:15.440 little more broad. 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.720 It was financial stuff, kind of like how Capone went 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.200 down for income tax evation. 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.919 Sure or again, even the ultimate or the first charge 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.080 that Epstein received felt like a real downgrade. 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.200 Well, guys, tell me if I'm wrong here. I imagine, 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.200 if you're in this position, you're a billionaire, your royalty, 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.879 you're whatever in those echelons. You've done some things in 0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.880 your life, probably that you're not proud of, that probably 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.280 at least skirted the law in some way to get 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.760 where you are. The last thing you want is to 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:51.560 have some form of discovery process that's wide in your life. 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.840 You do not want. This, do not want because all 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.000 the other little cracks start to show, all the other 0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:00.520 little rats start to run out and scurry around, because 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:04.000 now everybody's scared that you're under investigation. I think I 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.560 just imagine that that kind of thing is one of 0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.000 the worst fears with all of this stuff. You just 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:14.159 don't want the investigation to begin because what's at stake 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:18.480 is your legacy, right, maybe your treasure that you've accrued, 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.600 maybe your family's wealth at some point, but ultimately it's 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.280 your name. And I wonder that if these people are 0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.200 not mostly worried about that. 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:31.240 I'm wondering if it's also personal safety, because one thing 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:36.159 that's happened in counter terrorism that required some nuance is 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.479 you know, you can rattle the cage. Right, you can 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.359 rattle the bag of badgers, say you're looking for one, 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.399 and then see who else starts to behave in a 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.680 strange way because they think they'll get found out as 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.840 you go through the skeletons in the closet. 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.000 Well, that when people flip. 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.879 But that's yeah, that's not just when people flip. But 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.560 at this level, it is not inconceivable that some of 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:03.440 these folks say, hey, if liability the eye turns to me, Yeah, 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.880 do I become a liability? Is the not my legacy, 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.840 but is my physical life and the life of my 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.960 family in danger of ending? 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:13.480 Right? 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.920 Because those other badgers don't want to get pulled out 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:16.359 of the bag. 0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:18.920 You might be right, man, but I think at these 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.040 levels you've got security, and you know, if you pay 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.840 people enough, I think you're I I don't know. I 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.720 don't know, because we know, we do know that a 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.959 supreme leader, let's say of Iran, can get touched if 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.119 you have the right munitions, or let's say Maduro, a 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.720 guy who runs an entire country, can get just whisks away. 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.600 But you know there are there are intense like contractor 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.919 security teams around a lot of these folks. And I 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.399 don't know, maybe they have a fear of death, but 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.080 I feel like people that operate on that level are 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:57.560 somehow like I. Maybe that's just my imagining that people 0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:01.080 aren't as afraid of death once you get somewhere in 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.320 those levels, and I wonder why you're. 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.040 There's always a level above you know, there's always a 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:06.840 bigger badger. 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.120 You know that you don't want to poke a rattle. 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.320 That could potentially trump any of those measures or even 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.119 get to the folks who are protecting you. I just 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:17.840 I don't know, not to sound too paranoid, but I 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.480 just feel like there are wheels within wheels, and no 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.720 matter what level you might be at, there's always someone 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.240 above you. There's always a bigger fish that can just 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:26.040 snatch you up. 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.359 That makes sense, And we know also, speaking of bigger fish, 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:36.359 that despite the five arrests Okay Epstein, Galain, Maxwell Thorburn, Joggland, Yogland, 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:41.440 Prince Andrew and Peter Mendelssohn, despite those five arrests, the 0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.880 world seems certain that there are way more Epstein related 0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.920 offenders out there. So our question becomes what's getting covered up? 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.400 This is what we know about the Epstein files so far. 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.160 Before we continue again, folks, as we said at the top, 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:02.280 please note this may not be appropriate for all audiences. 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:11.280 We'll be right back years where it gets crazy. When 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:16.000 would we say the Epstein files begin to coalesce? 0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:22.360 Gosh, when Epstein meets Gallaine and her dad? 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:24.720 Oh, Robert Maxwell? 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.800 Yeah, yeah, I guess when you say coalesce, you mean 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.800 like the the you know, when does the story begin? 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:35.040 Well, yeah, it's tricky because we know we can loosely 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.560 say that the collection of these files begins around two 0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:43.280 thousand and five, but the events recorded in this yeah, 0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.560 the stuff they collect, to your point, nol, it dates 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.880 back far earlier. As we said earlier. In two thousand 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:54.120 and six, the FBI was investigating Epstein again, following reports 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:58.320 that he had been paying minors for sexual acts in 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.960 his mansion in Florida. Fast forward a year two thousand 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:07.240 and seven, the FEDS have a draft indictment of thirty 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:11.920 two counts against Epstein and two of his employees. But 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.920 we all know how that worked out, courtesy of US 0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:17.880 Attorney Alexander Acosta. 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.080 What do you guys, I don't know. 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:26.640 There's often criticism by the current administration and certain mouthpieces 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.719 of it that, well, if it was so bad, if 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.720 everything that was in there was so damning to the 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.880 president and all his cronies or whatever, why didn't the 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.920 Biden administration release it? And the answer to that as always, well, 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:37.200 it was an active investigation. 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.840 Do you guys buy that? Does that really matter? 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.959 Is that as ironclad a thing as folks seem to 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.120 say on the left, or could there have been something 0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:53.120 done in terms of trying to politically damage folks? 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:57.480 It's I think it's an a political cover up. No, 0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.800 it has been politicized, weaponized in various ways. But uh, 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.000 I think a lot of people on the so called 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:09.600 or public facing left were also in the files. Yeah, 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:13.960 and active in uh, active in preventing that from getting 0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:14.640 to the public. 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.240 To your point, if they release the trumpy bits, they 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.960 also have to release some other, you know, damning things 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.040 that get swept up in there, and it could just 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.960 be a zero sum game in terms of political damage. 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:30.280 Well, let's remember, really think back how important the concept 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:34.600 of releasing the Epstein files has been for the Trump 0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:35.520 administry as. 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.840 A political talking points, as a campaign promise. 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.480 Right, yes, as a giant ramp We're gonna get there 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.000 one day, and it's gonna happen. So people who support 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.160 that administration, who wanted that, that was a huge part 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.760 of it. Right, So once you get up there, you 0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.840 have to take action. You have to do something so 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.680 you get the performative stuff that happened last year. Right, 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.640 we all remember the giant folders that were the buying 0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.560 and buyer. Oh look at all this stuff we got. 0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:05.080 This is incredible. But ultimately, what you've got or appointed 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.400 human beings at key positions within the Department of Justice, 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.719 within the FBI, within all these other places, that the 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.200 primary directive, if if we're talking about like a programmed robot, 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:19.440 the primary directive is to protect Number one, protect the 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.880 president right, and protect everybody who's connected to Number one 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.440 and within the administration. That that is my opinion on 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.760 what their prime directive is because of what I've seen 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.800 them do and say. You have to take action, so 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.200 you do release things, but you also have to protect 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.720 Number one. With both of those things happening at the 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.080 same time, you see exactly what we see today. 0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:44.320 We also know that when Epstein was arrested for the 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.360 last time on Saturday, July sixth, twenty nineteen, he was 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:52.120 over at the Teeterborough Airport in New Jersey. He seemed 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.920 to know what was up. He had gotten wind of 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.800 what was going to happen. He probably knew before he landed. 0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.840 But it's interesting if you look at agent's notes from 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.920 the FBI guys who arrested him getting off his private jet. 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:12.600 The notes they have are him asking questions literally as 0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.240 he's cuffed and in the car. He says, is this 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:20.280 about sex trafficking? Is this about underage? Like? He did 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.800 not say lawyer, He did not you know, he did 0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.200 not clam up the way you're supposed to. He seemed 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.760 to anticipate what was going to happen. Five weeks later, 0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:33.880 per the official story, he dies. 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.200 Well, doesn't it make you wonder his reaction there from 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.239 the plane. Doesn't it make you wonder a little bit 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.840 about maybe that's not the worst thing that he was doing. 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.640 Hell no, or maybe that's not the scariest Iceberg. 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.520 It's the surface level stuff. It's almost charming to him. Yeah, okay, 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:51.080 I'll answer. 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.720 That's why I'm bringing it up. It's like you're getting 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.520 arrested and you go, oh, which one for which thing? 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.680 His demeanor in some of those depositions videos it's cool 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.440 as a damn cucumber man. That is not a dude 0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:08.160 that is experiencing remorse, that is not a dude that 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:13.640 is worried. It's comical the degree of cool that he 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.480 exhibits in some of those interviews. 0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.759 And we all remember hearing the news right for a 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:25.040 brief period of time, it was similar to UFO disclosure conversations. Right, 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:29.399 we're on the cusp of exposing this vast conspiracy. The 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:34.719 network of fellow predators will be identified, investigated, possibly detained 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:39.040 or prosecuted. But we saw folklore kick in too high 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.680 gear because the public did not have much in the 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:46.960 way of transparency or official confirmation. So without transparency, speculation thrives. 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:53.480 And this is where we see modern conspiracy engines kicking 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.200 up into high gear. People started taking the news that 0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:02.080 we could prove and folding it into their own existing 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:06.440 lore right about shadowy cabals or maybe Clinton corruption, or 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:12.160 murky tales of similar trafficking rings and financial entrapment by 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:17.080 intelligence agencies. It was going nuts. But none of Epstein's 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:22.320 known proven associates other than Gallaine Maxwell, have been criminally 0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.360 charged in the United States even now. 0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.960 Well because at the through all of this until the 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.160 full release. There were so many rumors, right, and as 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:36.920 you said, been conspiracy theories, ideas, possibilities. Maybe possibly this 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.560 person was connected. I've heard rumors this person was connected. 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.000 But now we actually get them and still their reactions 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.880 on alleged perpetrators of this stuff. 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.920 What's the best way to discredit something true, It's to 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.000 mix it in with a bunch of crazy sounding stuff. 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.040 Dude, Yeah, exactly right. 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.160 I mean, no question, we'll get to the four channel 0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:02.200 that now, maybe this was done intentionally from the jump. 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:06.000 Yeah, Like Emily Dickinson once wrote, tell the truth, but 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.640 tell it slant right. Give people a little taste of 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.560 the truth, but make sure the solution is ninety eight 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:20.239 percent embellishment and bs. It's it's understandable that the lack 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:24.359 of prosecution six plus years after this guy's death has 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:29.680 given rise to outrage and conspiracy theories. It's logical to ask, 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:35.759 why do these powerful people go if not unpunished, uninvestigated, 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:40.239 And when the newest files released, those accusations of cover 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.360 up only grew. We go to folks like Deputy Attorney 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:49.520 General Todd Blanche who said, yeah, he had the following 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.239 quote we're not going to play it, but we'll give 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.160 it to you. Quote. I can't talk about any investigations, 0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.800 but I will say the following, which is that in July, 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.760 the Department of just This said that we had reviewed 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:05.120 the Epstein files and there was nothing in there that 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:09.799 allowed us to prosecute anybody. We then released over three 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.680 and a half million pieces of paper, which the entire 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.319 world can look at now and see if we got 0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:15.720 it wrong. 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.160 Yeah, don't know about that. We can't look at much. 0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:25.120 Right, we're officially saying we did everything, We looked at everything, 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:29.320 and everything is we can't prosecute anybody. 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.600 Isn't it funny because the US, justin de Bartman says 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.279 it's over, We've done it, We're all done. But then 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.440 let's say, I mean, if you're in another country and 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:43.400 you're aware of other things related to Jeffrey Epstein, like 0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.839 in let's say France, and you're aware of a guy 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.880 named Jean Luke Brunel, maybe you set up your own 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:55.680 independent review to fully analyze and investigate what is available 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.360 in the Epstein files. So like this is real and 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:03.520 it is happening. France is setting up their own basically 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.040 special team of magistrates who are going to go through 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:11.120 and redig through this entire thing because they know. Among 0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.399 people in France that were a part of this whole thing, 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:18.080 there was a guy named Jean Luke Brunell, who have 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:19.600 we talked about him at all? 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.359 I don't think so. To please tell me more about 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:23.760 what you know. This is not something that I've followed 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:24.280 that closely. 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.319 In twenty twenty, this guy named Jean Luke Brunell, who 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:32.239 was the former boss of a modeling agency, was accused of, 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:36.920 according to The Guardian, rape and suspicion of supplying underage 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:41.319 girls to Jeffrey Epstein. He's arrested in twenty twenty. In 0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:45.160 twenty twenty two, he was found dead hanging in his cell. 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.799 Seems pretty similar, seems pretty close to it that he 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:55.080 had been questioned about human trafficking. He led this basically 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.320 talent model agency for a long time and for years 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:03.000 in the ninth he was a model talent scout and 0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.880 he was a boss of this thing called Karen Models 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.840 ka r I n or Karne Models. Maybe he was. 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:14.279 Had in public facing, like you know, business reason to exist, right, 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.720 We're talking fashion type stuff and photo shoots and various 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:18.279 things like that. 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.080 Right, Yes, it was a big deal. He discovered he is. 0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:27.080 He is credited with discovering Christy Turlington and Mila Djoviovic. 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.319 He also met Glene Maxwell in the nineteen eighties and 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:33.520 that's when he was introduced to Epstein, which so you 0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.319 can see if it goes back that far, right with 0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.880 a French modeling agency guy who is potentially possibly supplying 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.719 underage girls to this guy, Jeffrey Epstein, and that's only 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.880 one of the people that's doing that. And then you 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.320 also start to hear rumors about what was this one Wasserman, 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:54.000 Casey Wasserman who had a talent agency called Wasserman that 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.279 now people are leaving in droves because he may or 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.959 may not have some kind of connection to the Epstein file. 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.360 Let's not forget about John Casablancas as well, Julian Casablancas 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:09.000 from the Strokes' father, who has huge modeling magnate and 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.280 very very buddy buddy with Epstein and named many times 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:14.759 and a lot of these accusations. 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:19.280 Well, maybe you're somebody that runs a beauty pageant, a massive, 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:24.040 popular beauty pageant that goes on television every year and 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:29.319 you're all over this person's life, doesn't it. It sucks 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.040 because you can't go out and say, like the thing 0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.880 that you feel, you know, but damn, it feels like 0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:38.200 there's a pretty close connection to those specific gentlemen and 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.719 the things that they were doing and their connections with 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:45.440 Jeffrey Epstein and another person who is currently leading the 0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:46.680 United States of America. 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:52.160 Yeah, to this point, multiple other countries clearly don't trust 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:58.160 the DOJ's conclusions. That's why they're doing their own independent investigations, 0:40:58.239 --> 0:40:59.200 which we applaud. 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.360 By the way, aren't there people over here calling for 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:05.400 a special master or like some kind of there, Yes, 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.240 the kind of what would what would be as similar 0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.520 to an independent. 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.000 Review, and the House Oversight Committee, which we'll get to, 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:18.680 has made some strident statements as well. But obviously, again logically, 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.120 I keep going back to this. You learn about all 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:25.600 these all these horrific things, and you say, well, don't 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.600 we have rule of law? Shouldn't someone get in trouble 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:33.120 if they commit a crime. These released files contain specific 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:41.200 information about individuals, timelines, illegal activities, including accusations that two 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:45.880 women were murdered and buried on Epstein's orders, possibly more 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:50.040 so this is heavy, heavy stuff, and uh, there's there's 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.000 a great debate, a bit of a schism in mass 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:59.799 media right now about why these investigations indicated in the 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:05.080 files went on so long with so little action. The 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.680 New York Times had a piece a while back explaining 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:14.600 this as a series of miscommunications and drop like fumbles. Basically, 0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.960 the people in government agencies who should have been talking 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:21.160 to each other were not talking to each other, or 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:26.520 survivors of abuse would contact the authorities and they would 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:31.760 be ignored, or someone would leave an anonymous tip, also ignored. 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.840 Drug agents investigated, they found nothing. 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.000 I don't know if people protecting each other because there's 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:41.759 dirt on them. 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.399 This is where I'm wondering. Is it really a lack 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:49.719 of justice due to miscommunication and discordination, or is it 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.960 you know, to your point there, Matt, is it something. 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:53.520 Bigger at play? 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.520 Is it people trying to cover up the truth and 0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:57.800 protect their keysters. 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.759 Yes, I mean, that's it's opinion, But damn it, it 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.160 seems exactly like that. That's sure what it looks like. 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.360 It's sure what it looks like from here outside of 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:08.880 the cabul. 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.799 I mean, I think to everybody, though, it's that's the thing, man, 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.640 It's so transparent at this point, it's like so obvious 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:16.840 what's going on. 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:17.880 It's cliche. 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:24.560 It's the most cliche version of evil men doing evil things. 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.160 And doing a real bad job covering it up. It's 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.160 just like, come up, give me. 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.960 A break, and what are we? What are we the 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.720 public of every country, every human being on the planet 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:37.600 that like is aware of it and just looks at 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.440 it and goes, oh, holy crap, what do we do? 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.600 How do you fight against those guys? Those guys are 0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.560 the ones that are currently dropping bombs on Iran because 0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:48.440 they don't want you to think about the Epstein files. No, 0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.600 I'm just kidding. That's not why they're doing that. It's 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:51.360 kind of why they're doing it. 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.960 It's historically why things like that have been done. It's 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.560 to distract from bad poll numbers. It's to distract from 0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.120 other scandals. 0:43:58.960 --> 0:43:59.839 To wag the dog. 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.719 Yeah yeah, and to interfere, obviously with midterm elections. 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.279 Let's not us that give reason to suspend that election. 0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:11.680 Maybe an emergency of some sort. Now, we don't have 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.640 all the information from these investigations, but we do have 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:21.279 multiple bizarre events from the files bizarre interactions that have 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.160 been released, you know, like the recently revealed news. Also 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.560 a great article in the New York Times about this 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:32.440 that Epstein had that network of private doctors we mentioned earlier, 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:38.880 they tailored medical service to himself and to his victims. 0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:44.000 So maybe we explore some of these activities people and 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:54.280 incidents mentioned. First off, a lot of the Epstein files 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.759 that you can read on the DOJ website or on 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:03.360 a couple of Epstein wikis searchable databases. A lot of 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.440 the stuff you're going to read is going to be 0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:10.200 a ton of sometimes casual, sometimes cryptic chatter, like a 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.520 lot of brief emails back and forth, and then every 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.080 so often something you'll mention a torture video or a 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:21.560 harem right. And some of these things are inane, you know. 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.799 Some of them are as simple as like what are 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.400 you doing in December? You should come hang out at 0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.960 the island. And then some seem to be dark inside 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:33.400 jokes or these veiled references that, depending on how we 0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:38.400 interpret them, could be alluding to trafficking an abuse of miners. 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.239 It gets very murky, very. 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.759 Quickly when there's all the allegations of cannibalism as well, 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:48.960 which are just rumors, and you know people putting jerky, right, 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:50.480 we talked about jerky a little bit. 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.919 I know, I kind of just read a quick little 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:53.719 thing from Reddit. 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:54.400 This redditor. 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:55.440 I think that's just so smart. 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:59.439 So you release the information on Clinton, Gates, elon even 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.800 a bit on tru However, you ensure that the stuff 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.600 about Trump is either ambiguous due to redaction, or has 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.359 some sort of deniability built in. On further reflection, Since 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:11.200 your goal is distraction and you're deliberately choosing ambiguity and 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:14.320 inherent deniability, make sure anything about Trump appears to be 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:18.160 as salacious as possible for maximum impact. Anything that is 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:21.919 actually damaging to Trump or any truly important allies without 0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.440 the requisite built in ambiguity or deniability goes into the 0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.360 proverbial incinerator. The end goal is to release enough volume 0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:29.880 that you and your supporter as concredibly as in other 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.680 people they would have been happy with zero pages. Claim 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.800 you complied and released all the documents, and ideally you 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.960 want it to look plausibly authentic from a content standpoint. 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:41.880 But once again, you're mixing in that stuff about cannibalism. 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.799 You're mixing in the most salacious stuff sometimes the most 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.319 salacious stuff is the stuff that is waved away because 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:48.600 it's too it's too crazy. 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:49.719 Cannibalism. 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.920 Yeah, it's outside of the overt window. It's a similar 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:57.960 strategy that some bad kids in grade school might remember 0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.000 where you didn't want your parents to know you were 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.080 smoking weed, but you had to give them something, so 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.759 you left a cigarette butt on the patio. And now 0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:07.040 that's the big story that. 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:08.759 Was from Reddit or del varies by the way. I 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.360 just wanted to want to take any credit for this 0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:12.440 person's analysis I think is smart. 0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.920 I never did that, Ben, I never did that. I 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:15.960 didn't know that was a thing to do. 0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:20.160 Well, watch out the kids getting older every day. We 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.600 know that there have been a lot of independent Reddit 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:29.480 investigations or posted on Reddit because the public journalists are 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:33.520 doing the work that they feel a lot of mass 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.200 media is not. I want to go to a story 0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:40.680 we mentioned briefly. I brought this up in our Strange 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.319 news program or a group chat maybe a while back. 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:51.480 Business Insider, a journalist named Jacob Shamseion revealed something fascinating 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.520 I think to all of us. The site four chan, 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.800 which don't visit on your work computer. It seemed to 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:06.160 have brought news of Jeffrey Epstein's official death thirty eight 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.520 minutes before the rest of the world knew about it. 0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:10.320 Interesting. 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:14.160 Well, that's that's weird, right eight sixteen am August tenth, 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:18.919 twenty nineteen, anonymous four Chan user said, quote, don't ask 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.439 me how I know, but Epstein died an hour ago 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:24.680 from hanging cardiac arrest screencap. 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:24.960 This. 0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:29.759 Before we take this as a reputable source, we do 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.000 have to tell everybody who is not familiar with the 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.440 dirty streets of the internet. Four Chan is a wild place. 0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:38.440 It is. 0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:41.520 Not ideal. 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:46.640 No, no, it's it's successful, it's it's problematic as hell. 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.360 And apparently there was a lot of. 0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:58.120 Connection between prominent four chan folks and Gallaine Maxwell herself, 0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.920 who was I believe buddy buddy. 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:03.600 With with some of these folks. 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.120 It was actually read it, Oh she's yeah, she was 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:08.120 an active Reddit user. 0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:09.880 What I'm gonna go, what I'm getting at, is that 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:13.120 they that she may well have been responsible for creating 0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:15.239 a lot of the q and on stuff, like on 0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.960 purpose in order to flood the zone, like you were saying, Ben, 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.240 in order to like mix in some of that truth 0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:25.040 with some stuff that's just absolutely outlandish, uh, and therefore 0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:29.600 become the stuff of conspiracy theory rather than you know, 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.520 the because because to the point of what the previous 0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.320 Reddit post that I was reading was saying is that 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:37.919 you got to have it have the ring of truth, 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:39.480 So you gotta have some wild stuff in there that 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:41.120 could be plausible. But then when you mix it in 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.279 with all of this like outlandish stuff like the q 0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:48.360 Andon stuff and all of that Pizzagate, et cetera, it dish. 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:49.920 It kind of discredits all of it. 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:55.000 Yeah, which would be the end goal, right, because investigators 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:57.280 only have so much time, is the assumption. 0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:01.480 But also public opinion, right, and public opinion is ever fickle. 0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:05.239 It moves with the wind. We know that. In the 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:10.840 recently released tranch of Epstein files, we see the FBI 0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:14.759 and the Department of Justice were aware of this four 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.480 chan post, and it's not just one post, it's a conversation. 0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:23.320 They tried to identify the four chan user, but apparently 0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:26.960 they had no luck. They reached out to AT and T, 0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.359 the telecom provider in question, and AT and T said, 0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:33.080 we can't comply because we don't keep those kind of 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:37.200 records on a day to day basis. They did find 0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.919 the FBI and DOJ that this user, whomever this user 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:45.680 may be, did stick around to answer questions on this chat. 0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:52.000 They seemed to know medical terminology, implying that maybe they 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:55.320 were a medical professional. They gave a blow by blow 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.799 on how authorities intubated Epstein, gave them fluids, moved them 0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:03.160 to that er in Manhattan. And this is also where 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:08.759 we see one of the earliest conspiracies about Jeffrey Epstein's death. 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:13.399 It was a deleted post that was apparently recovered via 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:17.799 an FBI subpeda, and the user wrote, you guys, I'm 0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.920 shaking right now, but I think they switched them out, 0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:26.280 meaning this person was saying they think Epstein was taken 0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:32.879 to this medical facility in Manhattan, declared dead, and then 0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:38.239 his body was switched out with another body flooding the zone. 0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:41.880 I mean, it's exciting to think about. Feels like an 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.759 X Files episode, feels like something you know, you might 0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:49.040 see on your television and maybe it really did happen. 0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.479 Maybe somebody, you know, if you imagine in a large 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:54.919 hospital or something, or even in a prison system, somebody 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:58.279 who's manning the security system, who has access to all 0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.879 the cameras, that Hey, they're all functioning right now when 0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:03.680 everything goes down, but when there's an investigation, oh, only 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:05.560 two of the cameras work. It's I mean, you can 0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.120 imagine somebody like that might actually be in that position 0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:10.439 to see something and have their phone and be able 0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:12.799 to just you know, make a quick anonymous post if 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.680 they feel safe. They think they're on a VPN that's 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:19.320 protecting them. They think they can anonymously post, you know, 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.400 on a four channel or Reddit. Maybe that's real. Maybe, 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:24.840 but in the end, there's no way. Right now, I 0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:27.319 don't think there's any way to prove that at least 0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:28.120 the exist. 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.840 Yeah, so without extraordinary evidence. 0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:32.560 You know exactly. 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:34.320 I was just gonna say before we move on, I 0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:36.960 know we've been in this uh you know, branch of 0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:41.400 it for a minute, but the prevalence of in the 0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:46.560 Epstein files of the terms pizza and grape soda, uh, 0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:49.200 and it just feels like that's the kind of stuff 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:51.320 that we were hearing about, you know, with QAnon, this 0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:54.879 idea of pizzagate, and like it was obviously cast as 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.759 a more of a democratic issue, where it was this 0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:02.800 democratic cabal of child molesters and Satanists and child murderers 0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:04.600 and all this stuff and Hillary Clinton. It was all 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.520 kind of it seemed to be used to, you know, 0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:10.120 politically damage her, and you know it worked to a 0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.719 certain degree. But now we're seeing pizza coming up time 0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:16.959 and time again, talking about having a pizza party. Really 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.640 enjoyed that pizza. Let's go for pizza and grape soda. 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:24.240 No one else can understand a redacted sender was writing 0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:28.799 in some of these released files. It feels like all 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.640 of that stuff was kind of referring to Epstein all along. 0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:35.760 Quite possibly. Yeah, I mean every accusation is a confession. 0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:40.840 Or maybe there's more than one giant child trafficking cabal 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:41.279 out there. 0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:46.640 Check out the Monster of Belgium, right, check out boystout right, 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:50.359 check out the Franklin abuse ring. Right, and see how 0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:55.080 murky that stuff gets, and how few people actually went 0:53:55.239 --> 0:54:01.200 down or got convicted, how few survivors saw justice. It 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:04.759 is quite possible that the world is more terrible than 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:07.800 people would like to imagine. I'm sorry, this bothers me. 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.640 Yeah, oh well, yeah, yeah, I think it's pretty bothersome. 0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:16.360 Let's talk about the money really quickly, because the one 0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:19.919 thing you learn in investigations of any kind follow the money. 0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:22.400 That's generally one of the one of the best ways 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:27.320 to discover new things. Something came out last year in October. 0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:31.000 This is from The Guardian. A Senator Elizabeth Warren here 0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.640 in the US was urging regulators to investigate a few 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:39.640 particular individuals in the banking sector because of transactions. Basically 0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:42.560 the money that Jeffrey Epstein had access to and was 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:45.799 using and was investing and then would end up paying out, 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:48.479 you know, fifty thousand dollars here, three hundred and seventy 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.640 five thousand dollars. There are a couple of million over 0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:57.040 here to different institutions as donations, just keeping money. Huge, huge, 0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:01.400 to the tune of hundreds of thousand of dollars withdrawals 0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:05.880 from different accounts from this one little piece from the Guardian, 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:10.320 Elizabeth Warren urges US regulators to investigate Jess Stanley ties 0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:14.560 to Epstein. Just Stanley was a part of Barclay's Barclay's 0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:17.160 I guess is how you would say it. He's a 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:23.400 former Barclay's boss, and there's really interesting information about the 0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:27.640 money that Epstein was playing with. I'm gonna just read 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:32.920 this directly. This is from Mikaylina Markotov. During his fifteen 0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:36.400 year relationship with JP Morgan, Epstein opened at least one 0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:41.040 hundred and thirty four accounts, processed over one billion dollars 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:45.800 US in transactions, and brought in several other lucrative clients. 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:49.080 And JP Morgan has already paid two hundred and ninety 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:53.239 million dollars US in settlements to Epstein's victims, because that 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.600 is the money that was a part of controlling them 0:55:55.880 --> 0:56:00.800 and trafficking them, right, so, but the but that's the 0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:04.600 institution itself, So it ends up paying a huge fine 0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.840 of two hundred ninety million dollars. The individuals who are 0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:11.719 in charge of these banks at the time have not 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:16.480 seen any kind of pushback or blowback against them, besides 0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:19.520 a couple of a couple of things. Because Staley did 0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:23.440 have what he has a lifetime ban operating any kind 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:26.239 of banking system or working for any kind of banking 0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:28.560 system in the UK, like he cannot work in the 0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:31.919 UK financial sector because it was found that he lied 0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:36.000 to authorities about his relationship with Epstein, because there was 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:39.080 a cash of over twelve hundred emails between him and 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.759 Epstein between the head of a bank and this man, 0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:43.560 Jeffrey Epstein. 0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:47.480 I'd want to also point out we mentioned the name 0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:52.719 Ehud Barak look into him, folks. For a while, Wexner 0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:58.320 and Epstein's financial relationship went through a series of proxies 0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:01.520 and Matroshka dolls, and the trail went cold at Duiche 0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:05.279 Bank and from there, if you follow that, and this 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:07.560 is what I want to do that second episode about 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:14.480 the intel allegations. From there, it goes to banks in Israel, 0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:19.320 eventually three different categories of banking, and a lot of 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:23.680 that news is getting scrubbed from the internet as we speak. 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:28.640 So I think I would pose the possibility to all 0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:35.320 of us tonight that the horrific sexual abuse is the 0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:39.360 focus of the mainstream news, and we do wish justice 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:43.320 for the survivors, but I would positive goes much further 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:47.120 than that. I see that abuse and the trafficking and 0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:50.960 the blackmail and extortion. I see that as one tool 0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:55.960 in a larger toolkit to have leverage and influence over 0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:57.360 very powerful people. 0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:02.200 Yes, Ben, there's there's a security firm that Ahud was 0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:04.440 a part of that we need to we need to 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:08.680 drill down into completely that appears to have connections to 0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:13.080 this whole thing that has had it's been renamed several times, 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:16.320 which we know as we followed, like let's say private 0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:19.880 contractors over the years who renamed themselves a dozen times. 0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:24.000 It's usually for very specific reasons that they're trying to 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:27.200 save face or change you know, change course. 0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:30.720 Skip the you know, get get the heat of public 0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:33.240 attention off them for a little bit and wait for 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.160 the next thing. I mean, there's so much we're not 0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:38.840 going to get to tonight. This feels like the beginning 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.560 of a longer journey. I think we can agree. We 0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:45.000 know that Bill Gates. 0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:45.520 Uh. 0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:50.960 Bill Gates has rejected the claims from Jeffrey Epstein in 0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:55.960 the files, where Jeffrey Epstein appears to indicate that Gates 0:58:56.120 --> 0:59:01.680 caught an STI from a Russian victim, and that he 0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:07.360 also asked Jeffrey Epstein how to, instead of telling his 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:11.479 wife that he contracted this SDI, how to secretly dose 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:14.320 her with antibiotics. 0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:19.240 So that she didn't know, so that she never found out. Yeah, 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.560 I mean sealacious, Yes, does it have the ring of truth? 0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:23.880 Maybe? 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.800 Really quickly, guys, I just wanted to I was searching 0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:29.440 for this earlier and I was sort of fumbling my 0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:31.520 way through it, but I did find it is contained 0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:35.240 in the Epstein files that Jeffrey Epstein was acquainted with 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:40.040 Christopher Poole, the founder of four chan, who goes by 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:43.920 the handle Moot. They were introduced, in fact by a 0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:47.280 guy named Boris Nikolik, who was a biotech guy, a 0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:50.240 money guy, and also a doctor and a former advisor 0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:54.360 to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, saying that that 0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:57.240 Epstein needed to meet this cool kid, one of the 0:59:57.280 --> 1:00:00.960 greatest hackers and a real sensitive guy. Epstein said that 1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:03.600 he liked him. They had a nice hang, and then 1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:06.080 of course it was a board on four chan where 1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:11.520 Pizzagate began, and then pole that's correct, and there's an 1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:15.160 excellent Vanity Fair piece by Clara Malow or Malot that 1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.560 I'm pulling from here, and she points out there is 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:21.200 no evidence that Epstein influenced the creation of that board 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:23.160 or that he had any direct hand in any of 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:26.920 this stuff, but the timing's weird, and they definitely knew 1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:30.400 each other. And also Julane Maxwell is thought to have 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:35.600 been a power user on Reddit and potentially carrying over 1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:38.480 some of those things from the four Chance sphere into 1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:40.760 the Reddit sphere, which is a little bit more mainstream. 1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:43.800 Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. 1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:45.800 No, I know, I just think it's wild. I think 1:00:45.840 --> 1:00:46.320 it's right. 1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:48.200 I agree with you there, and I think a lot 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:51.640 of us do. I mean, we know. Look, we know 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:56.640 that victim statements or I prefer the term survivors statements 1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:04.240 tell us that these people are are not satisfied with 1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:10.200 the DOJ's conclusions. They're describing the release and the way 1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:12.800 the government handles it as a slap in the face 1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:16.680 and outrageous because, as we noted, I've been having a 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:20.640 hard time with it, it's such a dumb mistake to 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:25.560 make unredaction that easy. I wonder if they were purposely 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:30.040 dog whistling to say, hey, docs, these people like I. 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:34.680 The odds seems stacked against the survivors. We talked about 1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:40.040 the Lolita book, We talked about the idea of you know, 1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:44.080 the graphic depictions of violence on the part of the 1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:49.560 current United States president. The DOJ says, we're in compliance 1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:52.520 with the Transparency Act. We're not trying to protect anyone. 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:56.560 There is no cover up. Don't believe the evidence. We 1:01:56.680 --> 1:02:01.000 have no plans to release any further information, and that's 1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:04.520 where we see the government disagreeing with itself through Congress. 1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:08.680 Ben you shared with us something that was was showing 1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:13.320 how the administration did like remove some specific things right 1:02:13.360 --> 1:02:14.360 that were related. 1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:18.000 To pages Yeah, yeah, p stages that were out of sequence. 1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:20.720 So there was gaps that would have been contained in 1:02:20.800 --> 1:02:24.000 the official release, but they seem to have not redacted 1:02:24.120 --> 1:02:25.400 but just completely omitted. 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:26.080 Yeah. 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:30.400 That comes to us thanks to Stephen Fowler for an 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:37.480 MPR exclusive investigation where they found that, despite their earlier statements, 1:02:37.760 --> 1:02:41.960 the Justice Department of the United States has been proven 1:02:42.400 --> 1:02:46.920 to have withheld Epstein files related to allegations that the 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:52.520 current US president sexually abused a minor, and folks like 1:02:52.880 --> 1:02:57.680 Robert Garcia from the House Oversight Committee reviewed unredacted evidence 1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:03.560 logs and said, yeah, the DOJ is doing a cover up. 1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:08.360 There were files that got scrubbed from public view about 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:14.960 multiple people who were key witnesses in prosecution. Right now, 1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:18.800 what the House Oversite Committee is saying, and what the 1:03:18.960 --> 1:03:25.360 MPR investigation concludes is that someone at the DOJ is 1:03:26.920 --> 1:03:30.880 trying their damnedest to keep the president out of this 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:32.560 protect number one like. 1:03:32.640 --> 1:03:34.920 You, like you were saying, Matt, I want I want 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:37.080 to add something in here because it's not it's it's 1:03:37.240 --> 1:03:39.600 part of the administration, but it's not the president. Right. 1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:44.200 Current Department of Defense Deputy secretary a guy named Steve 1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:49.360 and Andrew Feinberg. He once ran and founded this thing 1:03:49.480 --> 1:03:55.240 called Cerberus Capital Management. And there's a great piece from 1:03:55.320 --> 1:03:58.120 Project on Government Oversite that you can find from February 1:03:58.200 --> 1:04:04.640 sixth that detail how involved Cerberus Capital Management, a private 1:04:04.680 --> 1:04:08.880 equity firm, was with Jeffrey Epstein's finances from two thousand 1:04:08.880 --> 1:04:15.120 and nine to twenty thirteen, just how close they were connected. 1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:17.920 And then listen to this The Epstein Files is from 1:04:17.960 --> 1:04:20.560 the article. The Epstein files also include emails about Cerberus 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:23.040 sent by higher ups from Deutsche Bank, which you had 1:04:23.120 --> 1:04:26.080 mentioned ben as being a part of this thing they managed. 1:04:26.120 --> 1:04:29.000 Deutsche Bank are the people that managed Epstein's investments from 1:04:29.040 --> 1:04:32.960 twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen. They played an essential role 1:04:33.120 --> 1:04:35.840 in his trafficking scheme because that's where he got his 1:04:35.920 --> 1:04:38.840 money and how he moved it around. And the Deutsche 1:04:38.920 --> 1:04:44.440 Bank employees identified Cerberus as a high risk account in 1:04:44.560 --> 1:04:48.880 an email that exists within those files. But then it 1:04:48.960 --> 1:04:51.960 all it's just interesting how becomes a web of connections 1:04:52.040 --> 1:04:54.720 tied back to each other, and that there is a 1:04:54.840 --> 1:04:59.320 human being that is not provably but potentially tied to 1:04:59.440 --> 1:05:03.080 this whole Ski who is now the Deputy Secretary of 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:04.640 the Department of Defense. 1:05:05.400 --> 1:05:08.760 And tying back again, you know, to want to be 1:05:08.840 --> 1:05:11.000 careful with this, but tied back again to the current 1:05:11.120 --> 1:05:14.680 president of the United States as well as past presidents. 1:05:14.800 --> 1:05:19.000 I mean he was appointed right, right, Yeah, these are 1:05:19.280 --> 1:05:21.320 not the part of government you get to vote for, 1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:27.280 even in a democracy. So other files are Some were 1:05:27.480 --> 1:05:31.240 briefly taken down and the Internet went crazy, and they 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:34.640 got put back up online in some form, and the 1:05:34.800 --> 1:05:39.560 DOJ replied, oh, our website was overloaded. So again nothing 1:05:39.680 --> 1:05:42.320 to see here, no attempt at conspiracy. 1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:43.880 But it doesn't look. 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:46.720 Great and I'm still I think we all are still 1:05:46.840 --> 1:05:51.520 pretty offended. When the White House was asked about this, 1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:55.880 and a White House spokesperson said, look, the current president 1:05:56.120 --> 1:05:59.720 has done more for Epstein's victims than anyone before him. 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.479 It's just not true. It's just not even remotely true. 1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:04.680 I mean, at the we haven't even talked about the 1:06:04.720 --> 1:06:08.800 Pam BONDI hearing right, the Holy crowd, I mean, good lord, 1:06:08.880 --> 1:06:13.280 what a show just I'm sorry, a politically speaking exactly 1:06:13.520 --> 1:06:17.160 an utter embarrassment of a human person just looking like 1:06:17.240 --> 1:06:20.160 a looney tune. I mean, who has everything to hide? 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:22.800 I'm sorry, it's just it if it's yeh, quacks like 1:06:22.840 --> 1:06:23.160 a duck. 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:27.400 But we love of we just want clowns in their place. 1:06:27.560 --> 1:06:30.840 Nose this notion of these victims that were in attendance, 1:06:31.800 --> 1:06:33.800 all of them raising their hands as having never been 1:06:33.840 --> 1:06:37.480 contacted by the DOJ, never been contacted by the FBI, 1:06:37.480 --> 1:06:40.800 I never given the opportunity to tell their story, to 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:45.480 give their you know, testimony, and all of them saying yes, please, 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:47.960 we want to they just don't want to hear it. 1:06:48.160 --> 1:06:50.800 I'm sorry, there's no bit literally turned around to not 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:51.400 look at them. 1:06:51.680 --> 1:06:55.640 Yes, there's one important thing that is the the the 1:06:55.800 --> 1:06:58.480 political pushback on that kind of thing, if it's if 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:01.080 that argument is taken as a political stance, and the 1:07:01.160 --> 1:07:03.160 pushback is these aren't the first people who run the 1:07:03.240 --> 1:07:06.320 FBI or the Department of Justice, and this Epstein dude 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:08.320 has been around for a long time. Wise we talked 1:07:08.320 --> 1:07:10.040 about at the top of the show, right, but that 1:07:10.240 --> 1:07:12.400 is definitely one of the first things. And it is 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:14.920 because there are so many people who have stuff to 1:07:15.040 --> 1:07:19.000 hide and have controllable assets that are within some of 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:22.480 these files. There's dirt on folks who get to those 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:25.560 levels we've talked about before on the show. Right. Once 1:07:25.640 --> 1:07:28.560 you get to some of these levels, you are actively 1:07:28.680 --> 1:07:31.320 sought after by certain powers and that is not a 1:07:31.400 --> 1:07:32.360 conspiratorial thing. 1:07:32.480 --> 1:07:34.240 And you're part of the system, whether you like it 1:07:34.400 --> 1:07:34.520 or not. 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:38.160 You're interconnected with even the people who you might not 1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:41.160 on paper or in the public eye be aligned with, 1:07:41.800 --> 1:07:42.280 and you have. 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:46.040 To there's also an argument this is true in some echelons. 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:48.680 There's an argument to even reach that level in the 1:07:48.760 --> 1:07:53.320 first place, you have to be compromised, right, Like you know, 1:07:53.960 --> 1:07:56.840 we could quote whatever Black Mirror episodes we want. But 1:07:57.520 --> 1:07:59.960 part of being in the Skull and Bones for instance, 1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:06.400 part of right, part of being in some selective societies 1:08:06.520 --> 1:08:09.120 I won't say secret, I'll play nice, but part of 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:14.600 that is for you to give compromising information on yourself 1:08:15.040 --> 1:08:20.160 which establishes you as a trustworthy entity. 1:08:20.400 --> 1:08:22.639 That's crime talk, man. That's what happens when. 1:08:22.520 --> 1:08:25.880 You're in I'm sure destruction if that is what it is, 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:28.320 and in a gang initiation that you have to kill somebody, 1:08:28.560 --> 1:08:30.120 you got to do a thing so they know they 1:08:30.200 --> 1:08:32.320 have this thing on you, and then you're not allowed 1:08:32.320 --> 1:08:34.680 to leave the gang or the mafia or whatever it 1:08:34.760 --> 1:08:34.960 might be. 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:39.680 Well, thank you, Yes, we know all this stuff. And 1:08:39.960 --> 1:08:44.280 it makes me think about our early early discussions of 1:08:44.400 --> 1:08:46.920 Dave Chappelle and the offer that he got and then 1:08:47.000 --> 1:08:50.280 why he left the country went to Africa, right, because 1:08:50.320 --> 1:08:54.320 when you get offered millions and millions of dollars, tens 1:08:54.360 --> 1:08:58.559 of millions of dollars, there's usually something some extra comes 1:08:58.640 --> 1:09:00.519 with that deal. Those are the rumors, that's what we've heard. 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:02.080 I've never been in that position. 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:06.600 Do you want to be prime minister? We've gotta we 1:09:06.720 --> 1:09:08.439 gotta get you on film doing this thing. 1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:10.559 We're gonna need you to eat this baby. I'm sorry. 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:12.800 I know that's but that's being discussed as well. 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:13.080 I'm not. 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:17.080 I mean, you know out there, it makes me wonder 1:09:17.120 --> 1:09:19.519 about that whole hide the truth within a mass of 1:09:19.680 --> 1:09:23.000 other things. Right, I think back to the very first 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:25.759 I think it's the pilot episode of Black Mirror. 1:09:26.160 --> 1:09:29.479 You remember this, right, Yeah, the way to the be 1:09:29.680 --> 1:09:30.360 prime minister. 1:09:31.000 --> 1:09:34.840 We is forced to check it out there There is. 1:09:35.120 --> 1:09:38.160 A unfortunately, there is a pork chop of truth to it. 1:09:39.200 --> 1:09:42.000 I will say, yeah, we don't want to spoil it 1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:44.719 too much, but we do want you to know. Files 1:09:44.800 --> 1:09:48.240 are still being hidden despite the Transparency Act that we 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:51.639 mentioned at the top. We're talking more than fifty pages 1:09:51.720 --> 1:09:56.280 of FBI interviews, notes from conversations with a woman who 1:09:56.400 --> 1:10:01.599 accused the current president of sexual abuse decades ago, back 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:04.839 in nineteen eighty three, when she herself was a minor. 1:10:05.479 --> 1:10:07.400 You can find more of that. We're not going to 1:10:08.560 --> 1:10:12.879 we don't want to re traumatize any survivors of abuse, 1:10:13.040 --> 1:10:16.960 but we do need you to know again, even if 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:20.000 you are skeptical, even if you are as objective as possible. 1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:23.280 But Dylan beat me here. This is so fed up. 1:10:23.960 --> 1:10:27.479 This is not a real investigation, no dude. 1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:30.639 But you know what I would say, It is nice 1:10:30.720 --> 1:10:34.400 to see people who are connected up to this thing 1:10:34.880 --> 1:10:37.680 losing their positions and their jobs in other parts of 1:10:37.720 --> 1:10:39.919 the world. We talked about in our Strange News episode 1:10:39.960 --> 1:10:42.479 A little bit Someday. Came out pretty recently on the 1:10:42.520 --> 1:10:47.360 twenty sixth, was that the head of the World Economic Forum, 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:52.720 the CEO of the World Economic Forum, those folks that 1:10:52.880 --> 1:10:56.280 do that thing, what's it called guys at the World 1:10:56.320 --> 1:11:00.519 Economic Forum, that big party, they all have Davosh that 1:11:00.680 --> 1:11:04.800 guy he resigned after review, after a review into his 1:11:05.000 --> 1:11:06.679 links to Jeffrey Epstein. 1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:11.640 You get a chance to resign or exactly the other consequences. 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:16.160 Just remember when you see that news when somebody resigns 1:11:16.320 --> 1:11:19.839 or loses their position at a prestigious college or something, 1:11:20.360 --> 1:11:21.879 that is not really punishment. 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:26.559 They're not going to jail. They're going to a chalet, 1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:31.920 right to a life of luxurious obscurity and perhaps quietly 1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:36.680 publish a memoir later. Right, Yeah, people are giving away. 1:11:36.680 --> 1:11:38.960 There's so much to unpack here, folks, we didn't need. 1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:41.439 We are gonna have to do an entire episode on 1:11:41.560 --> 1:11:45.439 Raphael or Zoro ranch over in New Mexico. 1:11:45.760 --> 1:11:47.560 Oh god, yes, yeah, we have to. 1:11:47.840 --> 1:11:51.559 And we have to look into again a deep dive 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:56.360 into Epstein's possible ties with intelligence agencies. We'll have to 1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:57.519 be careful with that one. 1:11:58.360 --> 1:12:00.400 I think we just lay it out, dude, I agree, 1:12:00.560 --> 1:12:04.799 I agree, and guys, but on early in early January, 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:07.000 I was seeing a lot of articles about saying how 1:12:07.040 --> 1:12:09.560 only about one percent of the total the totality of 1:12:09.600 --> 1:12:11.640 the Epstein files have been released. But then there was 1:12:11.680 --> 1:12:16.360 that massive drop, and now I'm seeing some other sources, 1:12:16.680 --> 1:12:19.800 largely led by the DOJ themselves, saying that they have 1:12:19.920 --> 1:12:22.200 released one hundred percent and that they are. 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:25.559 In full compliance with the law. Okay, is that just smoke? 1:12:25.800 --> 1:12:27.360 I feel like it is. I feel like that's not 1:12:27.600 --> 1:12:29.000 That's certainly not the case. 1:12:29.400 --> 1:12:32.400 You are absolutely correct, my friend, that is certainly not 1:12:32.560 --> 1:12:36.479 the case. There's some tricky legalese there. When they're saying 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:39.479 we've released one hundred percent of it, they're saying we've 1:12:39.560 --> 1:12:42.640 released one hundred percent of what we think is in 1:12:42.800 --> 1:12:46.519 compliance with the Epstein Transparency Act of twenty twenty five. 1:12:47.280 --> 1:12:51.520 They say that they're not releasing stuff they find redundant 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:55.439 or irrelevant or a if. 1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:56.559 That's up to them to determine. 1:12:56.760 --> 1:12:59.360 They're curriating it like themselves their opinion. 1:12:59.600 --> 1:13:03.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a non idea. 1:13:04.520 --> 1:13:06.479 Before we wrap, ban can I shout out two sources 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:08.519 just for people to look up, and then we'll just 1:13:10.000 --> 1:13:13.719 move forward. Here we mentioned that it appears the Justice 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:17.920 Department is specifically withholding files related to the current potus. 1:13:18.240 --> 1:13:22.000 If you go to NPR February twenty fourth, twenty twenty six, 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:25.920 Justice Apartment withheld and removed some Epstein files related to Trump. 1:13:26.040 --> 1:13:29.440 It just lays out the allegations. There are the specifics 1:13:29.800 --> 1:13:31.280 of those claims, and that. 1:13:31.439 --> 1:13:33.839 Again is Steve Fowler. That's your journalist. 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:36.719 Yes, And if you head over to the New York Times, 1:13:37.040 --> 1:13:39.320 I'm not gonna name the writers there you can look 1:13:39.360 --> 1:13:41.800 at there are three of them for this one. But 1:13:42.360 --> 1:13:45.559 the title is elite doctors served Jeffrey Epstein while treating 1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:49.120 his quote girls. This is from February twenty eighth, and 1:13:49.280 --> 1:13:52.360 it just outlines the connections there are between a lot 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:57.800 of doctors, specifically Mount Sinai and doctor Ava Dubin, and 1:13:57.920 --> 1:14:00.439 then her connection to a bunch of other people, including 1:14:01.280 --> 1:14:04.560 a separate one in Palm Beach named doctor Bruce Moskovitz, 1:14:04.920 --> 1:14:07.120 which there's just a whole bunch of information in there. 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:07.720 Yeah. 1:14:07.920 --> 1:14:11.080 You'll also see phrases in the Epstein files like an 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:15.559 associate of his at mar A Lago nearby. What next? 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:18.880 That's the billion dollar question. We stated way back in 1:14:18.960 --> 1:14:24.400 twenty nineteen. Anyone who has participated in this kind of 1:14:24.640 --> 1:14:28.719 stuff should be identified, investigated, and if warranted, they should 1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:32.160 be fully prosecuted. Under the rule of law. No one 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:35.719 should be indemnified. No one should be immune. It's happening 1:14:35.800 --> 1:14:39.280 in other countries, but here in the US it's not happening, 1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:42.320 and for now that seems to be the stuff they 1:14:42.400 --> 1:14:45.160 don't want you to know. Last note, if you or 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:48.520 anyone you know may be a victim of human trafficking, 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:52.200 please know their resources available if you are in immediate 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:56.200 danger called nine one one. If you are looking for 1:14:56.560 --> 1:15:00.600 resources and assistants, go to the National Human Trafficking Hotline 1:15:00.880 --> 1:15:05.559 at one eight eight three seven three seven eight eight eight. 1:15:05.920 --> 1:15:07.040 We'd love to hear your thoughts. 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:09.160 And as we know too, I mean, oftentimes folks who 1:15:09.200 --> 1:15:12.040 are are being human traffic may not even know that's 1:15:12.040 --> 1:15:16.320 what's happening. They may have been Stockholm syndromed into a 1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:21.639 sense of security or into a sense of safety by design, 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:24.880 you know. So it's it's not always clear, and there's 1:15:24.880 --> 1:15:28.880 a lot of emotional and psychological abuse that has part 1:15:28.880 --> 1:15:30.360 and parcel with all of this kind of stuff too. 1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:34.960 So very grateful to first responders and folks working in 1:15:35.080 --> 1:15:37.880 like ers for example, who maybe even clock that stuff 1:15:37.920 --> 1:15:39.760 like this is going on and try to reach out 1:15:40.000 --> 1:15:42.960 to get information from folks who might not otherwise ask 1:15:43.040 --> 1:15:46.479 for help. I'm just it's there's yeah, there's a lot, 1:15:46.800 --> 1:15:47.120 a lot of. 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:51.760 Time pack so please please do avail yourself of those 1:15:51.880 --> 1:15:55.960 resources and reach out again. We cannot emphasize that enough. 1:15:56.200 --> 1:15:58.920 Thank you so much for tuning in. Everybody join us 1:15:59.040 --> 1:16:05.080 for our continue exploration of the unfolding Epstein conspiracy. 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