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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.

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Speaker 3: Name is not They called me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.

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Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: Quick warning at the top, fellow conspiracy realist, this episode

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Speaker 4: may not be appropriate for all audiences. We are returning

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Speaker 4: tonight with a new installment in our unfortunately ongoing series

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Speaker 4: about the disgraced financier and sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein and guys.

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Speaker 4: As we had pointed out I think on Strange News recently,

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Speaker 4: we have been following this story for quite some time.

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Speaker 4: I think around twenty nineteen we started.

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Speaker 5: I think that's right, some years for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first time we did a full

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Speaker 2: episode on the dude and his sweetheart deal that he

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Speaker 2: got from the Justice Department after you know, being child

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Speaker 5: Yep, plus you know, I mean, that doesn't even cover it.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the degrees of which this guy has operated in

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Speaker 5: that despicable space.

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Speaker 2: Is mind boggling. Well, in the biggest part of the

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Speaker 2: Epstein story the whole time has been the other people

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Speaker 2: that have been around him. Right, It's never the Jeffrey

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: In our previous episodes, we explore the rhy and fall

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Speaker 4: of Epstein from his early life to his official death

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Speaker 4: on August tenth, twenty nineteen. We also dive deep into

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Speaker 4: those conspiracies allegations that cover up surrounding the numerous scandals

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Speaker 4: and people associated with Epstein, as well as his massive

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Speaker 4: web of alleged and proven connections. We also talk about Galay,

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Speaker 4: Maxwell and Moore. So now we are returning to suss

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Speaker 4: out some profoundly disturbing revelations that keep popping up in

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Speaker 4: the wake of this predator's death. Please note, folks, we

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Speaker 4: are recording this on Monday, March second, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully we can get some questions answered. This is the

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Speaker 4: Epstein Files what we know so far.

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Speaker 5: It's definitely sus.

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Speaker 4: Here are the facts, all right, guys? Are we bubbled gentlemen,

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Speaker 4: are are we assuming that everybody already knows about Jeffrey Epstein?

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Speaker 3: I feel like everybody. I think it's mainstream.

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Speaker 5: I think it's penetrated beyond the bubble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we know everything about this dude at

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Speaker 4: All so, for anyone who has been under a rock

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Speaker 4: or falling for the Department of Justices current shenanigans. More

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Speaker 4: on that in a bit. Jeffrey Epstein, we explore this

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Speaker 4: in depth. He was born on January twentieth, nineteen fifty three.

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Speaker 4: His parents seem to be pretty normal people. They're not billionaires.

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Speaker 4: His childhood acquaintances later go on to describe him as

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Speaker 4: and then we know things got really weird when he

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Speaker 5: Right, he spent some time with Bear Stearns and began

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and he really started to get his wealth

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Speaker 2: when he hooked up with Les Wexner. This billionaire dude

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Speaker 3: Like he literally owned the candle company.

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Speaker 2: The whatever the one is. I don't think he's Yankees,

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Speaker 2: this guy, Jeffrey Epstein, to be basically his financial manager

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Speaker 4: And I propose already here at the jump, I propose

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Speaker 2: Then you get into the service capital management with a

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Speaker 5: And so many rumors of Epstein himself being you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I'm I'm moving toward that disposition to

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Speaker 5: I mean, at the very least, just just knows far

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Speaker 2: Well, dude, Barack and some of that stuff going, like

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Speaker 2: the Masad angle.

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Speaker 5: Oh, there's a lot of willing you know, wool over

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Speaker 4: Blissful ignorance for sure. Eventually we know Epstein's crimes did

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Speaker 4: catch up with him. He escaped justice in multiple instances.

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Speaker 4: As we mentioned there at the top, he was eventually

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Speaker 4: and like an unprecedented one that he was indicted again

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Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen for sex trafficking federal charges. The official

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Speaker 5: I mean, the missing footage alone with the water mark

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about how CBS in particular has been

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Speaker 2: We're all good if you want to continue down that pathway,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we also know that the charges were dropped against

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Speaker 5: I mean, all of this just reeks of fall guy.

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Speaker 5: You know, even Epstein himself feels like the fall guy.

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Speaker 5: And not to mention Maxwell, who is of course now

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is bigger than Epstein as an individual

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Speaker 4: Yeah, putting the news loves a simple story, right, We

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Speaker 4: And I agree with you, Noel, that it is bigger

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Speaker 4: continually pointing to these various disturbing puzzle pieces, and they'll

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Speaker 4: And then a little further along the spectrum, you'll find

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Speaker 4: don't think Epstein ever actually died. I was surprised to

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Speaker 4: as we get further into this, there are some puzzle

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, he passed away. It is difficult to fake

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Speaker 5: For sure, And if that word to have happened, it

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Speaker 5: that narrative just doesn't make sense. It makes much more

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Speaker 5: He could name names, you know, we already know all

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Speaker 5: I just don't think they would allow him to go

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Speaker 3: That just doesn't make sability.

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Speaker 2: And that stuff that Jeffrey Epstein put in place, that's

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Speaker 4: But we do know that Epstein knew a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: Politicians of all stripes, professors, celebrities, business tycoons, tons of

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Speaker 4: another in his web. They might not have been aware

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Speaker 4: It's the solution to the FBI's problem with documentation and

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Speaker 4: All this data, this aggregate data is that's what's loosely

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Speaker 5: Jannis Joplin's in there, guys, Kurt Cobain, Sorry, we'll get

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Speaker 5: to that. The recent just drop of like a list

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, but yeah, this is just human beings dropping

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Speaker 5: Right, But the way they released it was just like here,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just these are these are thousands of emails, right,

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Speaker 5: So what's the point of releasing that as a list

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Speaker 4: Because the victim and survivor statements were ignored for years decades. Indeed,

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Speaker 4: Epstein Files Transparency Act. This mandates Uncle Sam to quote

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Speaker 5: Well, it certainly it doesn't mean what maybe it would

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Speaker 4: It feels like a chess move. It feels like they're

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of people who've actually in the

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Speaker 4: And is willing to bend the room. Some of those

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just we've got to get to it.

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Speaker 3: We know good, we know.

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Speaker 4: This entire scandal has only become more controversial as time continues.

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Speaker 4: The public is accusing the FBI, the Justice Department, and

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Speaker 4: the timeline, folks. In response to this outcry, they release

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Speaker 2: Because they in several of them, they did not redact

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Speaker 3: Yeah, many times.

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Speaker 5: It's not under the terms of the law, which there

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Speaker 4: Not going to the Epstein transparency yet, Thank you, Ben.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't until members of Congress approached the Department of

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Speaker 5: On hardwired machines, mind you, in or their department. They

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Speaker 5: let them come in, take a look for a couple

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Speaker 4: And then walk out without those files, without copies of them.

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Speaker 4: Basically skiff rules. And we know that right now. Well

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Speaker 4: It's this real pill over in the UK, Andrew and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe Andrew got stripped of his princely title

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't hold my breath ready jail time.

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Speaker 2: And Peter Mandelsson was the he was in some way.

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Speaker 4: I love, right, honorable. By the way, I am sad

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Speaker 2: He's a former UK ambassador to the US.

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Speaker 5: Of like political misconduct of some kind. It was a

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Speaker 4: It was financial stuff, kind of like how Capone went

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Speaker 5: Sure or again, even the ultimate or the first charge

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Speaker 5: that Epstein received felt like a real downgrade.

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Speaker 2: Well, guys, tell me if I'm wrong here. I imagine,

442
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: if you're in this position, you're a billionaire, your royalty,

443
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: you're whatever in those echelons. You've done some things in

444
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: your life, probably that you're not proud of, that probably

445
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: at least skirted the law in some way to get

446
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: where you are. The last thing you want is to

447
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: have some form of discovery process that's wide in your life.

448
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: You do not want. This, do not want because all

449
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: the other little cracks start to show, all the other

450
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: little rats start to run out and scurry around, because

451
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: now everybody's scared that you're under investigation. I think I

452
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: just imagine that that kind of thing is one of

453
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: the worst fears with all of this stuff. You just

454
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: don't want the investigation to begin because what's at stake

455
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: is your legacy, right, maybe your treasure that you've accrued,

456
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: maybe your family's wealth at some point, but ultimately it's

457
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: your name. And I wonder that if these people are

458
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: not mostly worried about that.

459
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Speaker 4: I'm wondering if it's also personal safety, because one thing

460
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Speaker 4: that's happened in counter terrorism that required some nuance is

461
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 4: you know, you can rattle the cage. Right, you can

462
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 4: rattle the bag of badgers, say you're looking for one,

463
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Speaker 4: and then see who else starts to behave in a

464
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Speaker 4: strange way because they think they'll get found out as

465
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Speaker 4: you go through the skeletons in the closet.

466
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Speaker 5: Well, that when people flip.

467
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Speaker 4: But that's yeah, that's not just when people flip. But

468
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Speaker 4: at this level, it is not inconceivable that some of

469
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 4: these folks say, hey, if liability the eye turns to me, Yeah,

470
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: do I become a liability? Is the not my legacy,

471
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: but is my physical life and the life of my

472
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: family in danger of ending?

473
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Speaker 3: Right?

474
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 4: Because those other badgers don't want to get pulled out

475
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Speaker 4: of the bag.

476
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Speaker 2: You might be right, man, but I think at these

477
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: levels you've got security, and you know, if you pay

478
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: people enough, I think you're I I don't know. I

479
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: don't know, because we know, we do know that a

480
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 2: supreme leader, let's say of Iran, can get touched if

481
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: you have the right munitions, or let's say Maduro, a

482
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: guy who runs an entire country, can get just whisks away.

483
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: But you know there are there are intense like contractor

484
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Speaker 2: security teams around a lot of these folks. And I

485
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe they have a fear of death, but

486
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: I feel like people that operate on that level are

487
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: somehow like I. Maybe that's just my imagining that people

488
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Speaker 2: aren't as afraid of death once you get somewhere in

489
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Speaker 2: those levels, and I wonder why you're.

490
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Speaker 5: There's always a level above you know, there's always a

491
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: bigger badger.

492
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: You know that you don't want to poke a rattle.

493
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: That could potentially trump any of those measures or even

494
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 5: get to the folks who are protecting you. I just

495
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: I don't know, not to sound too paranoid, but I

496
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 5: just feel like there are wheels within wheels, and no

497
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: matter what level you might be at, there's always someone

498
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 5: above you. There's always a bigger fish that can just

499
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 5: snatch you up.

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Speaker 4: That makes sense, And we know also, speaking of bigger fish,

501
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: that despite the five arrests Okay Epstein, Galain, Maxwell Thorburn, Joggland, Yogland,

502
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: Prince Andrew and Peter Mendelssohn, despite those five arrests, the

503
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: world seems certain that there are way more Epstein related

504
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: offenders out there. So our question becomes what's getting covered up?

505
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Speaker 4: This is what we know about the Epstein files so far.

506
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Speaker 4: Before we continue again, folks, as we said at the top,

507
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Speaker 4: please note this may not be appropriate for all audiences.

508
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: We'll be right back years where it gets crazy. When

509
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: would we say the Epstein files begin to coalesce?

510
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: Gosh, when Epstein meets Gallaine and her dad?

511
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: Oh, Robert Maxwell?

512
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I guess when you say coalesce, you mean

513
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: like the the you know, when does the story begin?

514
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's tricky because we know we can loosely

515
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: say that the collection of these files begins around two

516
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: thousand and five, but the events recorded in this yeah,

517
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: the stuff they collect, to your point, nol, it dates

518
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: back far earlier. As we said earlier. In two thousand

519
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: and six, the FBI was investigating Epstein again, following reports

520
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: that he had been paying minors for sexual acts in

521
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: his mansion in Florida. Fast forward a year two thousand

522
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: and seven, the FEDS have a draft indictment of thirty

523
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: two counts against Epstein and two of his employees. But

524
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: we all know how that worked out, courtesy of US

525
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: Attorney Alexander Acosta.

526
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Speaker 3: What do you guys, I don't know.

527
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 5: There's often criticism by the current administration and certain mouthpieces

528
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 5: of it that, well, if it was so bad, if

529
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 5: everything that was in there was so damning to the

530
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: president and all his cronies or whatever, why didn't the

531
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Speaker 5: Biden administration release it? And the answer to that as always, well,

532
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 5: it was an active investigation.

533
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Speaker 3: Do you guys buy that? Does that really matter?

534
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 5: Is that as ironclad a thing as folks seem to

535
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: say on the left, or could there have been something

536
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 5: done in terms of trying to politically damage folks?

537
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: It's I think it's an a political cover up. No,

538
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: it has been politicized, weaponized in various ways. But uh,

539
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people on the so called

540
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: or public facing left were also in the files. Yeah,

541
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: and active in uh, active in preventing that from getting

542
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: to the public.

543
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 5: To your point, if they release the trumpy bits, they

544
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 5: also have to release some other, you know, damning things

545
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 5: that get swept up in there, and it could just

546
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 5: be a zero sum game in terms of political damage.

547
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: Well, let's remember, really think back how important the concept

548
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: of releasing the Epstein files has been for the Trump

549
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: administry as.

550
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 5: A political talking points, as a campaign promise.

551
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: Right, yes, as a giant ramp We're gonna get there

552
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: one day, and it's gonna happen. So people who support

553
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: that administration, who wanted that, that was a huge part

554
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: of it. Right, So once you get up there, you

555
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: have to take action. You have to do something so

556
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: you get the performative stuff that happened last year. Right,

557
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: we all remember the giant folders that were the buying

558
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: and buyer. Oh look at all this stuff we got.

559
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: This is incredible. But ultimately, what you've got or appointed

560
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: human beings at key positions within the Department of Justice,

561
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: within the FBI, within all these other places, that the

562
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: primary directive, if if we're talking about like a programmed robot,

563
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: the primary directive is to protect Number one, protect the

564
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: president right, and protect everybody who's connected to Number one

565
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: and within the administration. That that is my opinion on

566
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: what their prime directive is because of what I've seen

567
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: them do and say. You have to take action, so

568
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: you do release things, but you also have to protect

569
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: Number one. With both of those things happening at the

570
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: same time, you see exactly what we see today.

571
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Speaker 4: We also know that when Epstein was arrested for the

572
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 4: last time on Saturday, July sixth, twenty nineteen, he was

573
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: over at the Teeterborough Airport in New Jersey. He seemed

574
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: to know what was up. He had gotten wind of

575
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: what was going to happen. He probably knew before he landed.

576
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: But it's interesting if you look at agent's notes from

577
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: the FBI guys who arrested him getting off his private jet.

578
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: The notes they have are him asking questions literally as

579
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: he's cuffed and in the car. He says, is this

580
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: about sex trafficking? Is this about underage? Like? He did

581
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: not say lawyer, He did not you know, he did

582
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: not clam up the way you're supposed to. He seemed

583
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: to anticipate what was going to happen. Five weeks later,

584
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: per the official story, he dies.

585
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: Well, doesn't it make you wonder his reaction there from

586
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 2: the plane. Doesn't it make you wonder a little bit

587
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: about maybe that's not the worst thing that he was doing.

588
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: Hell no, or maybe that's not the scariest Iceberg.

589
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: It's the surface level stuff. It's almost charming to him. Yeah, okay,

590
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 5: I'll answer.

591
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: That's why I'm bringing it up. It's like you're getting

592
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: arrested and you go, oh, which one for which thing?

593
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 5: His demeanor in some of those depositions videos it's cool

594
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: as a damn cucumber man. That is not a dude

595
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 5: that is experiencing remorse, that is not a dude that

596
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 5: is worried. It's comical the degree of cool that he

597
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: exhibits in some of those interviews.

598
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: And we all remember hearing the news right for a

599
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: brief period of time, it was similar to UFO disclosure conversations. Right,

600
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 4: we're on the cusp of exposing this vast conspiracy. The

601
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: network of fellow predators will be identified, investigated, possibly detained

602
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: or prosecuted. But we saw folklore kick in too high

603
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: gear because the public did not have much in the

604
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: way of transparency or official confirmation. So without transparency, speculation thrives.

605
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: And this is where we see modern conspiracy engines kicking

606
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: up into high gear. People started taking the news that

607
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: we could prove and folding it into their own existing

608
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: lore right about shadowy cabals or maybe Clinton corruption, or

609
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 4: murky tales of similar trafficking rings and financial entrapment by

610
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: intelligence agencies. It was going nuts. But none of Epstein's

611
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 4: known proven associates other than Gallaine Maxwell, have been criminally

612
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: charged in the United States even now.

613
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: Well because at the through all of this until the

614
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: full release. There were so many rumors, right, and as

615
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: you said, been conspiracy theories, ideas, possibilities. Maybe possibly this

616
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: person was connected. I've heard rumors this person was connected.

617
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: But now we actually get them and still their reactions

618
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: on alleged perpetrators of this stuff.

619
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Speaker 5: What's the best way to discredit something true, It's to

620
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 5: mix it in with a bunch of crazy sounding stuff.

621
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, exactly right.

622
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Speaker 5: I mean, no question, we'll get to the four channel

623
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: that now, maybe this was done intentionally from the jump.

624
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like Emily Dickinson once wrote, tell the truth, but

625
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: tell it slant right. Give people a little taste of

626
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: the truth, but make sure the solution is ninety eight

627
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: percent embellishment and bs. It's it's understandable that the lack

628
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 4: of prosecution six plus years after this guy's death has

629
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: given rise to outrage and conspiracy theories. It's logical to ask,

630
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: why do these powerful people go if not unpunished, uninvestigated,

631
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: And when the newest files released, those accusations of cover

632
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 4: up only grew. We go to folks like Deputy Attorney

633
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: General Todd Blanche who said, yeah, he had the following

634
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: quote we're not going to play it, but we'll give

635
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: it to you. Quote. I can't talk about any investigations,

636
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 4: but I will say the following, which is that in July,

637
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 4: the Department of just This said that we had reviewed

638
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: the Epstein files and there was nothing in there that

639
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: allowed us to prosecute anybody. We then released over three

640
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: and a half million pieces of paper, which the entire

641
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 4: world can look at now and see if we got

642
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 4: it wrong.

643
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't know about that. We can't look at much.

644
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: Right, we're officially saying we did everything, We looked at everything,

645
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 4: and everything is we can't prosecute anybody.

646
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: Isn't it funny because the US, justin de Bartman says

647
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: it's over, We've done it, We're all done. But then

648
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: let's say, I mean, if you're in another country and

649
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: you're aware of other things related to Jeffrey Epstein, like

650
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: in let's say France, and you're aware of a guy

651
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: named Jean Luke Brunel, maybe you set up your own

652
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: independent review to fully analyze and investigate what is available

653
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: in the Epstein files. So like this is real and

654
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: it is happening. France is setting up their own basically

655
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: special team of magistrates who are going to go through

656
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Speaker 2: and redig through this entire thing because they know. Among

657
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: people in France that were a part of this whole thing,

658
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: there was a guy named Jean Luke Brunell, who have

659
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: we talked about him at all?

660
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Speaker 5: I don't think so. To please tell me more about

661
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 5: what you know. This is not something that I've followed

662
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 5: that closely.

663
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, this guy named Jean Luke Brunell, who

664
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: was the former boss of a modeling agency, was accused of,

665
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: according to The Guardian, rape and suspicion of supplying underage

666
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: girls to Jeffrey Epstein. He's arrested in twenty twenty. In

667
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, he was found dead hanging in his cell.

668
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: Seems pretty similar, seems pretty close to it that he

669
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: had been questioned about human trafficking. He led this basically

670
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: talent model agency for a long time and for years

671
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: in the ninth he was a model talent scout and

672
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: he was a boss of this thing called Karen Models

673
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: ka r I n or Karne Models. Maybe he was.

674
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Speaker 5: Had in public facing, like you know, business reason to exist, right,

675
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 5: We're talking fashion type stuff and photo shoots and various

676
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 5: things like that.

677
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, it was a big deal. He discovered he is.

678
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: He is credited with discovering Christy Turlington and Mila Djoviovic.

679
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: He also met Glene Maxwell in the nineteen eighties and

680
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: that's when he was introduced to Epstein, which so you

681
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: can see if it goes back that far, right with

682
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: a French modeling agency guy who is potentially possibly supplying

683
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: underage girls to this guy, Jeffrey Epstein, and that's only

684
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: one of the people that's doing that. And then you

685
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: also start to hear rumors about what was this one Wasserman,

686
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: Casey Wasserman who had a talent agency called Wasserman that

687
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: now people are leaving in droves because he may or

688
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: may not have some kind of connection to the Epstein file.

689
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 5: Let's not forget about John Casablancas as well, Julian Casablancas

690
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 5: from the Strokes' father, who has huge modeling magnate and

691
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 5: very very buddy buddy with Epstein and named many times

692
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: and a lot of these accusations.

693
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: Well, maybe you're somebody that runs a beauty pageant, a massive,

694
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: popular beauty pageant that goes on television every year and

695
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: you're all over this person's life, doesn't it. It sucks

696
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: because you can't go out and say, like the thing

697
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: that you feel, you know, but damn, it feels like

698
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: there's a pretty close connection to those specific gentlemen and

699
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: the things that they were doing and their connections with

700
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein and another person who is currently leading the

701
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Speaker 2: United States of America.

702
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Speaker 4: Yeah, to this point, multiple other countries clearly don't trust

703
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: the DOJ's conclusions. That's why they're doing their own independent investigations,

704
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: which we applaud.

705
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 5: By the way, aren't there people over here calling for

706
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: a special master or like some kind of there, Yes,

707
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 5: the kind of what would what would be as similar

708
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: to an independent.

709
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: Review, and the House Oversight Committee, which we'll get to,

710
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: has made some strident statements as well. But obviously, again logically,

711
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: I keep going back to this. You learn about all

712
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: these all these horrific things, and you say, well, don't

713
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: we have rule of law? Shouldn't someone get in trouble

714
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: if they commit a crime. These released files contain specific

715
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: information about individuals, timelines, illegal activities, including accusations that two

716
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: women were murdered and buried on Epstein's orders, possibly more

717
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: so this is heavy, heavy stuff, and uh, there's there's

718
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: a great debate, a bit of a schism in mass

719
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: media right now about why these investigations indicated in the

720
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: files went on so long with so little action. The

721
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: New York Times had a piece a while back explaining

722
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: this as a series of miscommunications and drop like fumbles. Basically,

723
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: the people in government agencies who should have been talking

724
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: to each other were not talking to each other, or

725
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: survivors of abuse would contact the authorities and they would

726
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 4: be ignored, or someone would leave an anonymous tip, also ignored.

727
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 4: Drug agents investigated, they found nothing.

728
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if people protecting each other because there's

729
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: dirt on them.

730
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Speaker 4: This is where I'm wondering. Is it really a lack

731
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: of justice due to miscommunication and discordination, or is it

732
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: you know, to your point there, Matt, is it something.

733
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: Bigger at play?

734
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: Is it people trying to cover up the truth and

735
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 4: protect their keysters.

736
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, that's it's opinion, But damn it, it

737
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: seems exactly like that. That's sure what it looks like.

738
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 4: It's sure what it looks like from here outside of

739
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: the cabul.

740
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I think to everybody, though, it's that's the thing, man,

741
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: It's so transparent at this point, it's like so obvious

742
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: what's going on.

743
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 3: It's cliche.

744
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 5: It's the most cliche version of evil men doing evil things.

745
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: And doing a real bad job covering it up. It's

746
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: just like, come up, give me.

747
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: A break, and what are we? What are we the

748
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 2: public of every country, every human being on the planet

749
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: that like is aware of it and just looks at

750
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: it and goes, oh, holy crap, what do we do?

751
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: How do you fight against those guys? Those guys are

752
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: the ones that are currently dropping bombs on Iran because

753
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: they don't want you to think about the Epstein files. No,

754
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. That's not why they're doing that. It's

755
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: kind of why they're doing it.

756
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 5: It's historically why things like that have been done. It's

757
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 5: to distract from bad poll numbers. It's to distract from

758
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 5: other scandals.

759
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: To wag the dog.

760
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and to interfere, obviously with midterm elections.

761
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: Let's not us that give reason to suspend that election.

762
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: Maybe an emergency of some sort. Now, we don't have

763
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: all the information from these investigations, but we do have

764
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: multiple bizarre events from the files bizarre interactions that have

765
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: been released, you know, like the recently revealed news. Also

766
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: a great article in the New York Times about this

767
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: that Epstein had that network of private doctors we mentioned earlier,

768
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: they tailored medical service to himself and to his victims.

769
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 4: So maybe we explore some of these activities people and

770
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 4: incidents mentioned. First off, a lot of the Epstein files

771
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 4: that you can read on the DOJ website or on

772
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 4: a couple of Epstein wikis searchable databases. A lot of

773
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 4: the stuff you're going to read is going to be

774
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: a ton of sometimes casual, sometimes cryptic chatter, like a

775
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: lot of brief emails back and forth, and then every

776
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: so often something you'll mention a torture video or a

777
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: harem right. And some of these things are inane, you know.

778
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 4: Some of them are as simple as like what are

779
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 4: you doing in December? You should come hang out at

780
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: the island. And then some seem to be dark inside

781
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: jokes or these veiled references that, depending on how we

782
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: interpret them, could be alluding to trafficking an abuse of miners.

783
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: It gets very murky, very.

784
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: Quickly when there's all the allegations of cannibalism as well,

785
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: which are just rumors, and you know people putting jerky, right,

786
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: we talked about jerky a little bit.

787
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 3: I know, I kind of just read a quick little

788
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: thing from Reddit.

789
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: This redditor.

790
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: I think that's just so smart.

791
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 5: So you release the information on Clinton, Gates, elon even

792
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 5: a bit on tru However, you ensure that the stuff

793
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 5: about Trump is either ambiguous due to redaction, or has

794
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 5: some sort of deniability built in. On further reflection, Since

795
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 5: your goal is distraction and you're deliberately choosing ambiguity and

796
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 5: inherent deniability, make sure anything about Trump appears to be

797
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: as salacious as possible for maximum impact. Anything that is

798
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 5: actually damaging to Trump or any truly important allies without

799
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 5: the requisite built in ambiguity or deniability goes into the

800
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 5: proverbial incinerator. The end goal is to release enough volume

801
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 5: that you and your supporter as concredibly as in other

802
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: people they would have been happy with zero pages. Claim

803
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 5: you complied and released all the documents, and ideally you

804
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 5: want it to look plausibly authentic from a content standpoint.

805
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 5: But once again, you're mixing in that stuff about cannibalism.

806
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 5: You're mixing in the most salacious stuff sometimes the most

807
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: salacious stuff is the stuff that is waved away because

808
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 5: it's too it's too crazy.

809
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: Cannibalism.

810
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's outside of the overt window. It's a similar

811
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: strategy that some bad kids in grade school might remember

812
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 4: where you didn't want your parents to know you were

813
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: smoking weed, but you had to give them something, so

814
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: you left a cigarette butt on the patio. And now

815
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 4: that's the big story that.

816
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 5: Was from Reddit or del varies by the way. I

817
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 5: just wanted to want to take any credit for this

818
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 5: person's analysis I think is smart.

819
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: I never did that, Ben, I never did that. I

820
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: didn't know that was a thing to do.

821
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: Well, watch out the kids getting older every day. We

822
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: know that there have been a lot of independent Reddit

823
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: investigations or posted on Reddit because the public journalists are

824
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: doing the work that they feel a lot of mass

825
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: media is not. I want to go to a story

826
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: we mentioned briefly. I brought this up in our Strange

827
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 4: news program or a group chat maybe a while back.

828
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: Business Insider, a journalist named Jacob Shamseion revealed something fascinating

829
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: I think to all of us. The site four chan,

830
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: which don't visit on your work computer. It seemed to

831
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: have brought news of Jeffrey Epstein's official death thirty eight

832
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: minutes before the rest of the world knew about it.

833
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: Interesting.

834
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's weird, right eight sixteen am August tenth,

835
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, anonymous four Chan user said, quote, don't ask

836
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 4: me how I know, but Epstein died an hour ago

837
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: from hanging cardiac arrest screencap.

838
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: This.

839
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: Before we take this as a reputable source, we do

840
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: have to tell everybody who is not familiar with the

841
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 4: dirty streets of the internet. Four Chan is a wild place.

842
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: It is.

843
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: Not ideal.

844
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 5: No, no, it's it's successful, it's it's problematic as hell.

845
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: And apparently there was a lot of.

846
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 5: Connection between prominent four chan folks and Gallaine Maxwell herself,

847
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 5: who was I believe buddy buddy.

848
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: With with some of these folks.

849
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: It was actually read it, Oh she's yeah, she was

850
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: an active Reddit user.

851
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 5: What I'm gonna go, what I'm getting at, is that

852
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 5: they that she may well have been responsible for creating

853
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 5: a lot of the q and on stuff, like on

854
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 5: purpose in order to flood the zone, like you were saying, Ben,

855
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 5: in order to like mix in some of that truth

856
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: with some stuff that's just absolutely outlandish, uh, and therefore

857
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 5: become the stuff of conspiracy theory rather than you know,

858
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 5: the because because to the point of what the previous

859
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 5: Reddit post that I was reading was saying is that

860
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 5: you got to have it have the ring of truth,

861
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: So you gotta have some wild stuff in there that

862
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: could be plausible. But then when you mix it in

863
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 5: with all of this like outlandish stuff like the q

864
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 5: Andon stuff and all of that Pizzagate, et cetera, it dish.

865
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 5: It kind of discredits all of it.

866
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, which would be the end goal, right, because investigators

867
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 4: only have so much time, is the assumption.

868
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 5: But also public opinion, right, and public opinion is ever fickle.

869
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 4: It moves with the wind. We know that. In the

870
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: recently released tranch of Epstein files, we see the FBI

871
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Speaker 4: and the Department of Justice were aware of this four

872
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: chan post, and it's not just one post, it's a conversation.

873
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 4: They tried to identify the four chan user, but apparently

874
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: they had no luck. They reached out to AT and T,

875
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 4: the telecom provider in question, and AT and T said,

876
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: we can't comply because we don't keep those kind of

877
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 4: records on a day to day basis. They did find

878
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 4: the FBI and DOJ that this user, whomever this user

879
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: may be, did stick around to answer questions on this chat.

880
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: They seemed to know medical terminology, implying that maybe they

881
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 4: were a medical professional. They gave a blow by blow

882
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 4: on how authorities intubated Epstein, gave them fluids, moved them

883
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: to that er in Manhattan. And this is also where

884
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: we see one of the earliest conspiracies about Jeffrey Epstein's death.

885
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 4: It was a deleted post that was apparently recovered via

886
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 4: an FBI subpeda, and the user wrote, you guys, I'm

887
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 4: shaking right now, but I think they switched them out,

888
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 4: meaning this person was saying they think Epstein was taken

889
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 4: to this medical facility in Manhattan, declared dead, and then

890
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 4: his body was switched out with another body flooding the zone.

891
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's exciting to think about. Feels like an

892
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: X Files episode, feels like something you know, you might

893
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: see on your television and maybe it really did happen.

894
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody, you know, if you imagine in a large

895
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 2: hospital or something, or even in a prison system, somebody

896
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: who's manning the security system, who has access to all

897
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: the cameras, that Hey, they're all functioning right now when

898
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: everything goes down, but when there's an investigation, oh, only

899
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: two of the cameras work. It's I mean, you can

900
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: imagine somebody like that might actually be in that position

901
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 2: to see something and have their phone and be able

902
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: to just you know, make a quick anonymous post if

903
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: they feel safe. They think they're on a VPN that's

904
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 2: protecting them. They think they can anonymously post, you know,

905
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: on a four channel or Reddit. Maybe that's real. Maybe,

906
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: but in the end, there's no way. Right now, I

907
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: don't think there's any way to prove that at least

908
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: the exist.

909
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so without extraordinary evidence.

910
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: You know exactly.

911
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say before we move on, I

912
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: know we've been in this uh you know, branch of

913
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 5: it for a minute, but the prevalence of in the

914
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 5: Epstein files of the terms pizza and grape soda, uh,

915
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 5: and it just feels like that's the kind of stuff

916
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 5: that we were hearing about, you know, with QAnon, this

917
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 5: idea of pizzagate, and like it was obviously cast as

918
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 5: a more of a democratic issue, where it was this

919
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 5: democratic cabal of child molesters and Satanists and child murderers

920
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 5: and all this stuff and Hillary Clinton. It was all

921
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 5: kind of it seemed to be used to, you know,

922
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 5: politically damage her, and you know it worked to a

923
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 5: certain degree. But now we're seeing pizza coming up time

924
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 5: and time again, talking about having a pizza party. Really

925
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 5: enjoyed that pizza. Let's go for pizza and grape soda.

926
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 5: No one else can understand a redacted sender was writing

927
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 5: in some of these released files. It feels like all

928
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 5: of that stuff was kind of referring to Epstein all along.

929
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 4: Quite possibly. Yeah, I mean every accusation is a confession.

930
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: Or maybe there's more than one giant child trafficking cabal

931
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: out there.

932
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: Check out the Monster of Belgium, right, check out boystout right,

933
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 4: check out the Franklin abuse ring. Right, and see how

934
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 4: murky that stuff gets, and how few people actually went

935
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 4: down or got convicted, how few survivors saw justice. It

936
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: is quite possible that the world is more terrible than

937
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 4: people would like to imagine. I'm sorry, this bothers me.

938
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh well, yeah, yeah, I think it's pretty bothersome.

939
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the money really quickly, because the one

940
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 2: thing you learn in investigations of any kind follow the money.

941
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: That's generally one of the one of the best ways

942
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 2: to discover new things. Something came out last year in October.

943
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: This is from The Guardian. A Senator Elizabeth Warren here

944
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: in the US was urging regulators to investigate a few

945
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: particular individuals in the banking sector because of transactions. Basically

946
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: the money that Jeffrey Epstein had access to and was

947
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: using and was investing and then would end up paying out,

948
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 2: you know, fifty thousand dollars here, three hundred and seventy

949
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars. There are a couple of million over

950
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: here to different institutions as donations, just keeping money. Huge, huge,

951
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: to the tune of hundreds of thousand of dollars withdrawals

952
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: from different accounts from this one little piece from the Guardian,

953
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren urges US regulators to investigate Jess Stanley ties

954
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: to Epstein. Just Stanley was a part of Barclay's Barclay's

955
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: I guess is how you would say it. He's a

956
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: former Barclay's boss, and there's really interesting information about the

957
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: money that Epstein was playing with. I'm gonna just read

958
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: this directly. This is from Mikaylina Markotov. During his fifteen

959
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: year relationship with JP Morgan, Epstein opened at least one

960
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty four accounts, processed over one billion dollars

961
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: US in transactions, and brought in several other lucrative clients.

962
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: And JP Morgan has already paid two hundred and ninety

963
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: million dollars US in settlements to Epstein's victims, because that

964
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: is the money that was a part of controlling them

965
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: and trafficking them, right, so, but the but that's the

966
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: institution itself, So it ends up paying a huge fine

967
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: of two hundred ninety million dollars. The individuals who are

968
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: in charge of these banks at the time have not

969
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: seen any kind of pushback or blowback against them, besides

970
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: a couple of a couple of things. Because Staley did

971
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: have what he has a lifetime ban operating any kind

972
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: of banking system or working for any kind of banking

973
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: system in the UK, like he cannot work in the

974
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 2: UK financial sector because it was found that he lied

975
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: to authorities about his relationship with Epstein, because there was

976
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: a cash of over twelve hundred emails between him and

977
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: Epstein between the head of a bank and this man,

978
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein.

979
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: I'd want to also point out we mentioned the name

980
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 4: Ehud Barak look into him, folks. For a while, Wexner

981
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 4: and Epstein's financial relationship went through a series of proxies

982
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: and Matroshka dolls, and the trail went cold at Duiche

983
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 4: Bank and from there, if you follow that, and this

984
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: is what I want to do that second episode about

985
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 4: the intel allegations. From there, it goes to banks in Israel,

986
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 4: eventually three different categories of banking, and a lot of

987
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 4: that news is getting scrubbed from the internet as we speak.

988
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 4: So I think I would pose the possibility to all

989
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: of us tonight that the horrific sexual abuse is the

990
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: focus of the mainstream news, and we do wish justice

991
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: for the survivors, but I would positive goes much further

992
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: than that. I see that abuse and the trafficking and

993
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 4: the blackmail and extortion. I see that as one tool

994
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: in a larger toolkit to have leverage and influence over

995
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: very powerful people.

996
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: Yes, Ben, there's there's a security firm that Ahud was

997
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: a part of that we need to we need to

998
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: drill down into completely that appears to have connections to

999
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: this whole thing that has had it's been renamed several times,

1000
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: which we know as we followed, like let's say private

1001
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: contractors over the years who renamed themselves a dozen times.

1002
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: It's usually for very specific reasons that they're trying to

1003
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: save face or change you know, change course.

1004
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 4: Skip the you know, get get the heat of public

1005
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: attention off them for a little bit and wait for

1006
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: the next thing. I mean, there's so much we're not

1007
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 4: going to get to tonight. This feels like the beginning

1008
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 4: of a longer journey. I think we can agree. We

1009
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: know that Bill Gates.

1010
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 5: Uh.

1011
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 4: Bill Gates has rejected the claims from Jeffrey Epstein in

1012
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: the files, where Jeffrey Epstein appears to indicate that Gates

1013
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: caught an STI from a Russian victim, and that he

1014
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 4: also asked Jeffrey Epstein how to, instead of telling his

1015
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 4: wife that he contracted this SDI, how to secretly dose

1016
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 4: her with antibiotics.

1017
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: So that she didn't know, so that she never found out. Yeah,

1018
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: I mean sealacious, Yes, does it have the ring of truth?

1019
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1020
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 5: Really quickly, guys, I just wanted to I was searching

1021
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 5: for this earlier and I was sort of fumbling my

1022
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 5: way through it, but I did find it is contained

1023
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 5: in the Epstein files that Jeffrey Epstein was acquainted with

1024
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 5: Christopher Poole, the founder of four chan, who goes by

1025
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 5: the handle Moot. They were introduced, in fact by a

1026
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 5: guy named Boris Nikolik, who was a biotech guy, a

1027
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 5: money guy, and also a doctor and a former advisor

1028
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 5: to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, saying that that

1029
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 5: Epstein needed to meet this cool kid, one of the

1030
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 5: greatest hackers and a real sensitive guy. Epstein said that

1031
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 5: he liked him. They had a nice hang, and then

1032
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 5: of course it was a board on four chan where

1033
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 5: Pizzagate began, and then pole that's correct, and there's an

1034
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 5: excellent Vanity Fair piece by Clara Malow or Malot that

1035
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 5: I'm pulling from here, and she points out there is

1036
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 5: no evidence that Epstein influenced the creation of that board

1037
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 5: or that he had any direct hand in any of

1038
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 5: this stuff, but the timing's weird, and they definitely knew

1039
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 5: each other. And also Julane Maxwell is thought to have

1040
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 5: been a power user on Reddit and potentially carrying over

1041
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 5: some of those things from the four Chance sphere into

1042
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 5: the Reddit sphere, which is a little bit more mainstream.

1043
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

1044
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: No, I know, I just think it's wild. I think

1045
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: it's right.

1046
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: I agree with you there, and I think a lot

1047
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 4: of us do. I mean, we know. Look, we know

1048
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 4: that victim statements or I prefer the term survivors statements

1049
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 4: tell us that these people are are not satisfied with

1050
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: the DOJ's conclusions. They're describing the release and the way

1051
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 4: the government handles it as a slap in the face

1052
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 4: and outrageous because, as we noted, I've been having a

1053
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 4: hard time with it, it's such a dumb mistake to

1054
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 4: make unredaction that easy. I wonder if they were purposely

1055
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 4: dog whistling to say, hey, docs, these people like I.

1056
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 4: The odds seems stacked against the survivors. We talked about

1057
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: the Lolita book, We talked about the idea of you know,

1058
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 4: the graphic depictions of violence on the part of the

1059
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 4: current United States president. The DOJ says, we're in compliance

1060
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 4: with the Transparency Act. We're not trying to protect anyone.

1061
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 4: There is no cover up. Don't believe the evidence. We

1062
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: have no plans to release any further information, and that's

1063
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 4: where we see the government disagreeing with itself through Congress.

1064
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: Ben you shared with us something that was was showing

1065
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: how the administration did like remove some specific things right

1066
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: that were related.

1067
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 5: To pages Yeah, yeah, p stages that were out of sequence.

1068
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 5: So there was gaps that would have been contained in

1069
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 5: the official release, but they seem to have not redacted

1070
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 5: but just completely omitted.

1071
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1072
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 4: That comes to us thanks to Stephen Fowler for an

1073
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: MPR exclusive investigation where they found that, despite their earlier statements,

1074
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 4: the Justice Department of the United States has been proven

1075
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 4: to have withheld Epstein files related to allegations that the

1076
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: current US president sexually abused a minor, and folks like

1077
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 4: Robert Garcia from the House Oversight Committee reviewed unredacted evidence

1078
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 4: logs and said, yeah, the DOJ is doing a cover up.

1079
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 4: There were files that got scrubbed from public view about

1080
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 4: multiple people who were key witnesses in prosecution. Right now,

1081
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: what the House Oversite Committee is saying, and what the

1082
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: MPR investigation concludes is that someone at the DOJ is

1083
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 4: trying their damnedest to keep the president out of this

1084
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 4: protect number one like.

1085
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 2: You, like you were saying, Matt, I want I want

1086
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: to add something in here because it's not it's it's

1087
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Speaker 2: part of the administration, but it's not the president. Right.

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Speaker 2: Current Department of Defense Deputy secretary a guy named Steve

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: and Andrew Feinberg. He once ran and founded this thing

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01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: called Cerberus Capital Management. And there's a great piece from

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: Project on Government Oversite that you can find from February

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01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: sixth that detail how involved Cerberus Capital Management, a private

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: equity firm, was with Jeffrey Epstein's finances from two thousand

1094
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: and nine to twenty thirteen, just how close they were connected.

1095
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: And then listen to this The Epstein Files is from

1096
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: the article. The Epstein files also include emails about Cerberus

1097
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: sent by higher ups from Deutsche Bank, which you had

1098
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: mentioned ben as being a part of this thing they managed.

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01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: Deutsche Bank are the people that managed Epstein's investments from

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01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen. They played an essential role

1101
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: in his trafficking scheme because that's where he got his

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01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: money and how he moved it around. And the Deutsche

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01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: Bank employees identified Cerberus as a high risk account in

1104
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: an email that exists within those files. But then it

1105
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: all it's just interesting how becomes a web of connections

1106
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: tied back to each other, and that there is a

1107
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: human being that is not provably but potentially tied to

1108
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: this whole Ski who is now the Deputy Secretary of

1109
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: the Department of Defense.

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Speaker 4: And tying back again, you know, to want to be

1111
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 4: careful with this, but tied back again to the current

1112
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 4: president of the United States as well as past presidents.

1113
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 4: I mean he was appointed right, right, Yeah, these are

1114
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 4: not the part of government you get to vote for,

1115
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 4: even in a democracy. So other files are Some were

1116
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 4: briefly taken down and the Internet went crazy, and they

1117
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 4: got put back up online in some form, and the

1118
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 4: DOJ replied, oh, our website was overloaded. So again nothing

1119
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 4: to see here, no attempt at conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't look.

1121
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 4: Great and I'm still I think we all are still

1122
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: pretty offended. When the White House was asked about this,

1123
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 4: and a White House spokesperson said, look, the current president

1124
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 4: has done more for Epstein's victims than anyone before him.

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Speaker 3: It's just not true. It's just not even remotely true.

1126
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 5: I mean, at the we haven't even talked about the

1127
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 5: Pam BONDI hearing right, the Holy crowd, I mean, good lord,

1128
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 5: what a show just I'm sorry, a politically speaking exactly

1129
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 5: an utter embarrassment of a human person just looking like

1130
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 5: a looney tune. I mean, who has everything to hide?

1131
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's just it if it's yeh, quacks like

1132
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 5: a duck.

1133
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 4: But we love of we just want clowns in their place.

1134
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 5: Nose this notion of these victims that were in attendance,

1135
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 5: all of them raising their hands as having never been

1136
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 5: contacted by the DOJ, never been contacted by the FBI,

1137
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 5: I never given the opportunity to tell their story, to

1138
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 5: give their you know, testimony, and all of them saying yes, please,

1139
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 5: we want to they just don't want to hear it.

1140
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, there's no bit literally turned around to not

1141
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 4: look at them.

1142
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: Yes, there's one important thing that is the the the

1143
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 2: political pushback on that kind of thing, if it's if

1144
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: that argument is taken as a political stance, and the

1145
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: pushback is these aren't the first people who run the

1146
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: FBI or the Department of Justice, and this Epstein dude

1147
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: has been around for a long time. Wise we talked

1148
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: about at the top of the show, right, but that

1149
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: is definitely one of the first things. And it is

1150
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: because there are so many people who have stuff to

1151
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: hide and have controllable assets that are within some of

1152
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: these files. There's dirt on folks who get to those

1153
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: levels we've talked about before on the show. Right. Once

1154
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: you get to some of these levels, you are actively

1155
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: sought after by certain powers and that is not a

1156
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: conspiratorial thing.

1157
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 3: And you're part of the system, whether you like it

1158
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 3: or not.

1159
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 5: You're interconnected with even the people who you might not

1160
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 5: on paper or in the public eye be aligned with,

1161
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 5: and you have.

1162
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 4: To there's also an argument this is true in some echelons.

1163
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 4: There's an argument to even reach that level in the

1164
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 4: first place, you have to be compromised, right, Like you know,

1165
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 4: we could quote whatever Black Mirror episodes we want. But

1166
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 4: part of being in the Skull and Bones for instance,

1167
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 4: part of right, part of being in some selective societies

1168
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 4: I won't say secret, I'll play nice, but part of

1169
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 4: that is for you to give compromising information on yourself

1170
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: which establishes you as a trustworthy entity.

1171
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 3: That's crime talk, man. That's what happens when.

1172
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 5: You're in I'm sure destruction if that is what it is,

1173
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 5: and in a gang initiation that you have to kill somebody,

1174
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 5: you got to do a thing so they know they

1175
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 5: have this thing on you, and then you're not allowed

1176
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 5: to leave the gang or the mafia or whatever it

1177
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 5: might be.

1178
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Yes, we know all this stuff. And

1179
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: it makes me think about our early early discussions of

1180
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle and the offer that he got and then

1181
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: why he left the country went to Africa, right, because

1182
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 2: when you get offered millions and millions of dollars, tens

1183
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars, there's usually something some extra comes

1184
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: with that deal. Those are the rumors, that's what we've heard.

1185
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: I've never been in that position.

1186
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 4: Do you want to be prime minister? We've gotta we

1187
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 4: gotta get you on film doing this thing.

1188
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: We're gonna need you to eat this baby. I'm sorry.

1189
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: I know that's but that's being discussed as well.

1190
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1191
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know out there, it makes me wonder

1192
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: about that whole hide the truth within a mass of

1193
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: other things. Right, I think back to the very first

1194
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 2: I think it's the pilot episode of Black Mirror.

1195
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 4: You remember this, right, Yeah, the way to the be

1196
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 4: prime minister.

1197
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 3: We is forced to check it out there There is.

1198
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 4: A unfortunately, there is a pork chop of truth to it.

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Speaker 4: I will say, yeah, we don't want to spoil it

1200
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 4: too much, but we do want you to know. Files

1201
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 4: are still being hidden despite the Transparency Act that we

1202
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 4: mentioned at the top. We're talking more than fifty pages

1203
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 4: of FBI interviews, notes from conversations with a woman who

1204
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 4: accused the current president of sexual abuse decades ago, back

1205
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,839
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty three, when she herself was a minor.

1206
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 4: You can find more of that. We're not going to

1207
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,879
Speaker 4: we don't want to re traumatize any survivors of abuse,

1208
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 4: but we do need you to know again, even if

1209
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 4: you are skeptical, even if you are as objective as possible.

1210
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 4: But Dylan beat me here. This is so fed up.

1211
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 4: This is not a real investigation, no dude.

1212
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 2: But you know what I would say, It is nice

1213
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: to see people who are connected up to this thing

1214
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: losing their positions and their jobs in other parts of

1215
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,919
Speaker 2: the world. We talked about in our Strange News episode

1216
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: A little bit Someday. Came out pretty recently on the

1217
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: twenty sixth, was that the head of the World Economic Forum,

1218
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 2: the CEO of the World Economic Forum, those folks that

1219
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: do that thing, what's it called guys at the World

1220
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: Economic Forum, that big party, they all have Davosh that

1221
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: guy he resigned after review, after a review into his

1222
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 2: links to Jeffrey Epstein.

1223
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 4: You get a chance to resign or exactly the other consequences.

1224
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: Just remember when you see that news when somebody resigns

1225
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 2: or loses their position at a prestigious college or something,

1226
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,879
Speaker 2: that is not really punishment.

1227
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 4: They're not going to jail. They're going to a chalet,

1228
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 4: right to a life of luxurious obscurity and perhaps quietly

1229
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 4: publish a memoir later. Right, Yeah, people are giving away.

1230
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 4: There's so much to unpack here, folks, we didn't need.

1231
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: We are gonna have to do an entire episode on

1232
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 4: Raphael or Zoro ranch over in New Mexico.

1233
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 2: Oh god, yes, yeah, we have to.

1234
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 4: And we have to look into again a deep dive

1235
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 4: into Epstein's possible ties with intelligence agencies. We'll have to

1236
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 4: be careful with that one.

1237
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 5: I think we just lay it out, dude, I agree,

1238
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,799
Speaker 5: I agree, and guys, but on early in early January,

1239
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 5: I was seeing a lot of articles about saying how

1240
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,560
Speaker 5: only about one percent of the total the totality of

1241
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 5: the Epstein files have been released. But then there was

1242
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 5: that massive drop, and now I'm seeing some other sources,

1243
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 5: largely led by the DOJ themselves, saying that they have

1244
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 5: released one hundred percent and that they are.

1245
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 3: In full compliance with the law. Okay, is that just smoke?

1246
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: I feel like it is. I feel like that's not

1247
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: That's certainly not the case.

1248
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 4: You are absolutely correct, my friend, that is certainly not

1249
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 4: the case. There's some tricky legalese there. When they're saying

1250
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 4: we've released one hundred percent of it, they're saying we've

1251
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 4: released one hundred percent of what we think is in

1252
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 4: compliance with the Epstein Transparency Act of twenty twenty five.

1253
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,520
Speaker 4: They say that they're not releasing stuff they find redundant

1254
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 4: or irrelevant or a if.

1255
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 3: That's up to them to determine.

1256
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 5: They're curriating it like themselves their opinion.

1257
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a non idea.

1258
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: Before we wrap, ban can I shout out two sources

1259
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: just for people to look up, and then we'll just

1260
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 2: move forward. Here we mentioned that it appears the Justice

1261
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: Department is specifically withholding files related to the current potus.

1262
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: If you go to NPR February twenty fourth, twenty twenty six,

1263
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: Justice Apartment withheld and removed some Epstein files related to Trump.

1264
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,440
Speaker 2: It just lays out the allegations. There are the specifics

1265
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: of those claims, and that.

1266
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,839
Speaker 4: Again is Steve Fowler. That's your journalist.

1267
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 2: Yes, And if you head over to the New York Times,

1268
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna name the writers there you can look

1269
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 2: at there are three of them for this one. But

1270
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: the title is elite doctors served Jeffrey Epstein while treating

1271
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: his quote girls. This is from February twenty eighth, and

1272
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: it just outlines the connections there are between a lot

1273
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: of doctors, specifically Mount Sinai and doctor Ava Dubin, and

1274
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: then her connection to a bunch of other people, including

1275
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 2: a separate one in Palm Beach named doctor Bruce Moskovitz,

1276
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: which there's just a whole bunch of information in there.

1277
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1278
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 4: You'll also see phrases in the Epstein files like an

1279
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 4: associate of his at mar A Lago nearby. What next?

1280
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 4: That's the billion dollar question. We stated way back in

1281
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. Anyone who has participated in this kind of

1282
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 4: stuff should be identified, investigated, and if warranted, they should

1283
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 4: be fully prosecuted. Under the rule of law. No one

1284
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 4: should be indemnified. No one should be immune. It's happening

1285
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 4: in other countries, but here in the US it's not happening,

1286
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 4: and for now that seems to be the stuff they

1287
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 4: don't want you to know. Last note, if you or

1288
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,520
Speaker 4: anyone you know may be a victim of human trafficking,

1289
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 4: please know their resources available if you are in immediate

1290
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: danger called nine one one. If you are looking for

1291
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 4: resources and assistants, go to the National Human Trafficking Hotline

1292
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 4: at one eight eight three seven three seven eight eight eight.

1293
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 4: We'd love to hear your thoughts.

1294
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 5: And as we know too, I mean, oftentimes folks who

1295
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 5: are are being human traffic may not even know that's

1296
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 5: what's happening. They may have been Stockholm syndromed into a

1297
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 5: sense of security or into a sense of safety by design,

1298
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 5: you know. So it's it's not always clear, and there's

1299
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 5: a lot of emotional and psychological abuse that has part

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Speaker 5: and parcel with all of this kind of stuff too.

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Speaker 5: So very grateful to first responders and folks working in

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Speaker 5: like ers for example, who maybe even clock that stuff

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Speaker 5: like this is going on and try to reach out

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Speaker 5: to get information from folks who might not otherwise ask

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Speaker 5: for help. I'm just it's there's yeah, there's a lot,

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Speaker 5: a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Time pack so please please do avail yourself of those

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Speaker 4: resources and reach out again. We cannot emphasize that enough.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for tuning in. Everybody join us

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Speaker 4: for our continue exploration of the unfolding Epstein conspiracy. For now,

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Speaker 4: we would love to hear your thoughts. You can find

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Speaker 4: us online. You can call us on a telephone. You

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Speaker 4: can always send us an email for sure.

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Speaker 5: If you want to find us online, you can do

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Speaker 5: so by looking for the handle's conspiracy stuff or conspiracy

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Speaker 5: Stuff Show. And there are other ways as well.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We have an email and a phone number.

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Speaker 2: Our phone number is one eight three three std WYTK.

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Speaker 2: Turn those letters into numbers and they give them a call.

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Speaker 2: like to send us an email, you can do that too.

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Speaker 4: We are the entities the Redeach piece of correspondence we receive,

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Speaker 4: be well aware, yet unafraid. Sometimes the void writes back,

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