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Speaker 1: Family, Family, Family, fandomily, famominily. Yeah, there there is hope
Speaker 1: in this world. Oh yeah, you guys are for those
Speaker 1: visuals that are watching visually. You guys. See this paper
Speaker 1: airplane right here that I made out of a American
Speaker 1: dollar bill in the middle of the show yesterday. Yes,
Speaker 1: this US currency right here.
Speaker 5: I we put we put this out there, and we
Speaker 5: left it on the table when we didn't We did
Speaker 5: not have a lot of faith it was gonna it
Speaker 5: was going to exist and still be here today.
Speaker 1: Who thought it was gonna be here today? Nobody?
Speaker 6: I do it?
Speaker 1: No way, did you guys? I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys did or not.
Speaker 5: But guess what, I have to go fingerprint this because
Speaker 5: I want to know exactly who picked it, who picked
Speaker 5: it up, who looked at it? And I believe that
Speaker 5: one Derk Eagleton could not pass up the opportunity to
Speaker 5: pick up this dollar.
Speaker 1: Bill and look around. The accusation has seen anybody was
Speaker 1: gonna see him. The accusation has been Levy would Dusties
Speaker 1: and I will come back with the report.
Speaker 3: All right, Derek, you get your forensics files on always
Speaker 3: breaker on notice.
Speaker 1: Derek, you've got twenty four hours to respond. I mean
Speaker 1: they're still there, They're still there.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna leave it there today and see if
Speaker 3: it stays another day?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: I don't have that much faith that's going yeah, and
Speaker 1: now you're just tempting fit.
Speaker 3: I have to say, our family is gonna have to
Speaker 3: pick up Isaiah standback. Today his Seattle Mariners let it
Speaker 3: slip in the bottom of the seventh inning to the
Speaker 3: Toronto Blue Jay.
Speaker 1: Sorry, buddy, bro, we were freaking nine outs. You were
Speaker 1: so head nine outs.
Speaker 5: Bro, We were pitchers were doing good, defense was playing well,
Speaker 5: offense stepped up. Just just maintain the lead, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Just maintain the lead if they if
Speaker 5: they get a base hit. H you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But like, we don't give gifts. That was like King
Speaker 5: Si snicker bar on the freaking porch for for for Halloween.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't leave that in the hood. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You leave kings I Snickers on the porch in the
Speaker 5: hood and put it says take one.
Speaker 1: You know what they're gonna do. They're taking a whole bowl.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened yesterday. It took the whole bowl yesterday.
Speaker 1: Somebody put a Snickers out there and said, just take one.
Speaker 8: Huh.
Speaker 5: You guys have a two point lead, a two run league,
Speaker 5: Just take one and go on.
Speaker 1: About your business, bud, and they said, Nah. Springer was like,
Speaker 1: I'm taking a whole bowl with me, buddy. I'm heartbroken.
Speaker 3: I'm heartbroken for you, not only because yea friends the Mariners.
Speaker 3: Well not well, there's that.
Speaker 1: We still remain the only team, only team.
Speaker 3: That has never made it to the World Series and.
Speaker 1: A team. I'm sorry, but you're right.
Speaker 3: The guys that I know, Julio Roderiguez HiT's a bomb,
Speaker 3: So I was happy. Julio's guy I love, and I
Speaker 3: don't fault.
Speaker 5: Him for taking a swing on that last pitch. It
Speaker 5: was a bad pitch, but he tried to watch that
Speaker 5: last pitch.
Speaker 1: They are who thought they? Who was part of our.
Speaker 3: In the minor league team. He never actually played for
Speaker 3: the Power when I was there, but he was a
Speaker 3: part of our media day. Got to know him a
Speaker 3: little bit, really cool, down the earth guy. He hits
Speaker 3: a bomb. And then the fact that George Springer is
Speaker 3: the one that gets done a former astro.
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry, but that's it for Baseball talk. Let's
Speaker 1: go Dodgers News and Notes America. Yeah, that's true, Dodgers,
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. It's Kendrick versus Drake All over all
Speaker 1: over again. Wow. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna win it again.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can go for the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what news and notes, Patrick knows
Speaker 1: he walk away. Hey man. So let's start with a
Speaker 1: little bit of bad news, which is that Trevon Diggs
Speaker 1: is still in the concussion protocol per Branch Schottenheimer. Trevon
Speaker 1: Diggs did come to the building yesterday to try to
Speaker 1: get cleared, but they looked at him and said, you
Speaker 1: know what, you still don't look quite great, my friend.
Speaker 1: Ah nah, So they sent him home. So they sent
Speaker 1: him home. So we'll see how that goes this week. Now,
Speaker 1: would you like some good news? I would would you
Speaker 1: like some great Oh? I got some great news? All right.
Speaker 1: So Cowboys are actually obviously they have several on IR
Speaker 1: but headline bean Agent zero will return to practice on
Speaker 1: tomorrow over shown, we'll have his twenty one day practice
Speaker 1: window activated effective tomorrow. Window is Yeah, I need you
Speaker 1: to He tweeted it this way like I was gonna
Speaker 1: sell Reddy moss us to know about the horizontal Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did tweet it after the show yesterday. Of
Speaker 3: course it wasn't in the show of course always after
Speaker 3: T minus twenty one. He did love it and he's
Speaker 3: he's pumped. I talked to him last night. We had
Speaker 3: an event together last night at the three Forks down the.
Speaker 1: Road, and man, he is pumped.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is super exciting.
Speaker 1: Now a bit of a housekeeping note because he did
Speaker 1: tweet that on yesterday, but the clock is not going
Speaker 1: to be started until Wednesday tomorrow, So we got that clarification.
Speaker 1: I know there were there were multiple reports out there
Speaker 1: saying that the Cowboys had already started the clock. That's
Speaker 1: actually actually not true. They're gonna wait until Wednesday because
Speaker 1: they don't want to just unnecessarily burn those two days.
Speaker 1: Because I know there are some people asking me, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Pat, is it twenty one practices? Is it
Speaker 1: twenty one? You know business days like money through no
Speaker 1: business day? It is twenty Amazon, it's twenty one postal
Speaker 1: service time. It is twenty one calendar days. So the
Speaker 1: Cowboys activating him, oh, not activating him, but bringing him
Speaker 1: back to practice activating that twenty one day window. They
Speaker 1: have until I believe right after the bio, so November
Speaker 1: seventeenth is when they would have to make a decision.
Speaker 1: So they do get the bye week of not you know,
Speaker 1: of working that in as well. So great news there,
Speaker 1: would you like more? Great news?
Speaker 4: That would put him on pace for the Raiders, right,
Speaker 4: which is right before the Eagles game.
Speaker 1: Now that's right before the Eagles. You're right, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Raiders game would be awesome. Yeah, that means that morrownover
Speaker 1: shown has a great chance of being on the field
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, which gives him a good shot at
Speaker 1: ramping up for a very very important division matchup against
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles when they come to Armington. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: picked up.
Speaker 3: So would you say it's good to bet on the
Speaker 3: Marvin Overshow being in Vegas?
Speaker 1: Yes, Actually, we don't bet on this show. We don't, gentlemen, gentleman,
Speaker 1: that's a good gamble, Not that, gentle gentleman. But I
Speaker 1: love it. Kyle spoke with Demo yesterday, said he's excited.
Speaker 1: I've had endless conversation with Demo just throughout the process
Speaker 1: of the recovery, and at every single point he's just
Speaker 1: been positive and just grinding, and he's never you would
Speaker 1: never be able to tell that this is a young
Speaker 1: man or a grown man who has been through not
Speaker 1: just one devastating knee injury, but to like hand one
Speaker 1: back in college is just a ball of positivity and
Speaker 1: hope and optimism, and you just love the fact that
Speaker 1: he's coming back to give Kyle and Isaiah and Josh
Speaker 1: and myself exactly what we want, which is that vocal leader.
Speaker 1: Was there anybody else's window? Yeah, but that's what I say.
Speaker 1: Would you like some more greade? Please? It's not as
Speaker 1: it's not as uh excelsior as the demo news, but
Speaker 1: it's still big news. Savone Revel, rookie third round pick,
Speaker 1: will be at practice on Wednesday. Quarterback hold on, quarterback,
Speaker 1: hold on holding Savone revels back. He's back on for
Speaker 1: the first time. Back like yep, is it back? Or
Speaker 1: is it it's here? He's here, He's back for Savone
Speaker 1: Revel is here, Chris. If I may, you may, I
Speaker 1: like those words? You may save old Rebel. He will
Speaker 1: have his towards you. One day practice window activated as well.
Speaker 1: Twenty one suffered to torn acl East Carolina in September
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four that ended his collegiate career, but he
Speaker 1: is ready. Talked to him yesterday. He's in good spirits,
Speaker 1: great spirits. Actually, he's been in great spirits this entire time.
Speaker 1: But he tells me that he's now gotten used to
Speaker 1: the brace that Britt Brown and the trainers want him
Speaker 1: to use. That's one of the reasons why they kind
Speaker 1: of held back a little bit on activating his practice window.
Speaker 1: They wanted him to get accustomed to trying to see
Speaker 1: if the brace could be comfortable for him. And now
Speaker 1: it is. He said, his knee feels great, So yeah,
Speaker 1: what set back? Those are two dogs that are coming back.
Speaker 3: One is the Marvin Overshon and of course we've had
Speaker 3: that conversation already and what he could bring as a linebacker,
Speaker 3: but savone rebel was a first round caliber corner yep.
Speaker 3: And if he's one hundred percent or even close to
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, he's going to be a massive uptick
Speaker 3: from what you have currently at that position.
Speaker 1: Delicious.
Speaker 3: Those are two position groups that need reinforce and they're
Speaker 3: on their way.
Speaker 1: Would you like another dog there? Would you like more
Speaker 1: great news? Well, it's more great, there's no way there is.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the offensive side of the ball. Would
Speaker 1: you like would you like to give more to this
Speaker 1: very wealthy offense? Please? Starting center Cooper Bby. Oh, we'll
Speaker 1: also see his twenty one day practice window Actors twenty
Speaker 1: one one. Cooper Baby he is uh, he would be
Speaker 1: able to practice field on.
Speaker 3: So is this just like the third rounder enforcement party
Speaker 3: you got? And then Cooper Bby. It's just all these
Speaker 3: third rounders coming out of the smoke like like an
Speaker 3: explosion in the back.
Speaker 4: Like the worst of edgers you can They're ready to
Speaker 4: make it all happen.
Speaker 1: But hey, we're top one hundred picks. We make this happen.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with its good. That's awesome. So you get
Speaker 1: you got you got your starting starting right guard back,
Speaker 1: uh in Tyler Bookery. Now you get your starting center
Speaker 1: back soon. And Cooper Beby. I will say that Cooper
Speaker 1: Bby has been moving very well. He doesn't have any
Speaker 1: added tape or anything or that ankle kind of braces
Speaker 1: or devices or anything. Big man looks looks good, looks good.
Speaker 1: So ready for Cooper bb to get back out there.
Speaker 1: And Durdham, as he was known to do at Kassas State,
Speaker 1: keep it to the offensive side of the ball. Would
Speaker 1: you like to make this wealthy offense wealthier? Is what
Speaker 1: I'm asking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another one.
Speaker 1: There is another one. Not that you need it, but
Speaker 1: here comes another wide receiver, Jonathan Mingo Bingo. Jonathan Mingo
Speaker 1: is being activated from IR to the active fifty three
Speaker 1: man roster this week. Wow, Cowboys will need to make
Speaker 1: a corresponding move because his window is closing. We don't
Speaker 1: know what the corresponding move quite yet will be. That's
Speaker 1: going to be a very very interesting conversation because we
Speaker 1: definitely know that. But you're not going to clear rianfling
Speaker 1: or through waivers after what.
Speaker 9: He has done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. Yeah, you cannot risk that one at all.
Speaker 1: So that'll be interesting. So Jonathan Mingo officially back off
Speaker 1: of IR at some point this week when they make
Speaker 1: the transaction. The reasons not yet. It's because you know,
Speaker 1: of course, they need to make sure that they make
Speaker 1: what they feel is going to be the right decision
Speaker 1: as far as who they wait to them. But they
Speaker 1: got to make the decision by tomorrow. I guess his
Speaker 1: dadline is tomorrow wondering. I guess if you're going to
Speaker 1: make a move, I guess you have to make a move. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe that it would most likely make sense for
Speaker 1: it to be at the cornerback position. Not because you
Speaker 1: can withstand that or you know what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: actually handle that right now.
Speaker 5: But you're going to have to make another move to
Speaker 5: get readable on the rand. Butler, Yeah, eventually on the roster.
Speaker 5: So I think that that'sop. Yeah, that's I think that's
Speaker 5: probably the spot that you have to pull from.
Speaker 1: I talked to Butler last night.
Speaker 3: He was also there and he said, same kind of thing.
Speaker 3: He said, it's just depending on time and where they
Speaker 3: need the bodies and what happens. But he's he was
Speaker 3: remember like one week after to Marve and overshow and
Speaker 3: tore his acls the same injury. It was very bang
Speaker 3: bang right next to each other. So they're they're close
Speaker 3: on the same timeline. So you could expect Butler in
Speaker 3: his window to open at some point.
Speaker 5: Were you most skeptical about in terms of their ability
Speaker 5: to come back, cause does not act like if we
Speaker 5: just expect these guys to come back on her.
Speaker 4: I granted, I haven't seen a lot of civone Revels
Speaker 4: contributions in college personally, but I would be remiss to say, like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's going to come in and absolutely dominate. I think
Speaker 4: one of the things that Kyle's brought up several times
Speaker 4: is that he was playing in a smaller school and
Speaker 4: for his last snaps to be against Appalachian State, then
Speaker 4: to come in the NFL and be guarding you know,
Speaker 4: some of.
Speaker 1: The best receivers in the world.
Speaker 4: Obviously, it's I can't personally expect him to be a
Speaker 4: shutdown corner. I think we all sort of are reeling
Speaker 4: from seat Belt Carson, right like that. That name that
Speaker 4: Moniker was kind of give him to him really early.
Speaker 4: The number twenty one was get to him pretty early
Speaker 4: on in his career, and that came with a lot
Speaker 4: of expectation. I don't want to go in with any
Speaker 4: expectation for Sevie Rebel because I want him to make
Speaker 4: a name for himself.
Speaker 1: I agree and for every reason that Josh said for
Speaker 1: me a Savone Revel, it's not because of lack of ability.
Speaker 1: We all know Savone Revel has an extremely high ceiling.
Speaker 1: But this, unlike to Mariveano, was shown this is a rookie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is one hundred percent of rookie, and it's a
Speaker 1: rookie coming from a group of five programs. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and I worked for the American Conference. I love
Speaker 3: talking about the the facts of the facts, he's coming
Speaker 3: from where he was playing against, And I pulled up
Speaker 3: the guy's name again because I just think it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Caden Robinson was the last guy at Appalachian State that
Speaker 3: Savone Rebel covered, and if his twenty one day practice
Speaker 3: window opens up this week or next week, the next
Speaker 3: guy he would cover would probably be DeVante Smith, who
Speaker 3: had one hundred and sixty three yards last week yeah
Speaker 3: for the Eagles and former Heisman winner out Yeah. So
Speaker 3: it is a little bit different and it's going to
Speaker 3: take an adjustment period. But when we're talking about guys
Speaker 3: that can develop into something special, and we've seen rookie
Speaker 3: corners stand.
Speaker 1: Out in a big way before.
Speaker 3: We've had it happen with Diggs, We've had it happen
Speaker 3: with Bland. Those guys step up big as rookies and
Speaker 3: then they end up having great careers. It can't happen,
Speaker 3: But neither Bland nor Dickx hasn't come off of a
Speaker 3: major injury in the middle of the season to do so.
Speaker 1: I feel like Tomorveion is going to make an impact
Speaker 1: this season. I feel like the appropriate expectation is to
Speaker 1: look for civil on revel to start making an impact
Speaker 1: next season. He's got to get a full off season
Speaker 1: of work with the coaching staff and then the system.
Speaker 1: Right now, I mean if he gets thrown in, not
Speaker 1: thrown in, but if he gets any playing time this year,
Speaker 1: which it looks like he will. The fact is he
Speaker 1: is kind of being thrown in because he hasn't had
Speaker 1: an off season absolutely, which adds to everything we're talking
Speaker 1: about coming from East Carolina and the competition that he
Speaker 1: went up against versus what awaits him in the NFL,
Speaker 1: the traditional rookie curve, even if he was at a
Speaker 1: power school, right so, I'm less concerned about his competition
Speaker 1: level he's coming from.
Speaker 5: I'm more concerned about the fact that he has an
Speaker 5: ACO and he's a cornerback.
Speaker 1: That's a reactionary position. That's fair.
Speaker 5: Also, I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like being
Speaker 5: on the bands with brit Brown, that's awesome, but there's
Speaker 5: no reaction that's required. There's no type of rep like
Speaker 5: a live there's no reps like a receiver running out you.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure they've had some half speed reps along
Speaker 5: the way, but until you are backpedaling and somebody breaks
Speaker 5: in front of you, and you got to put your
Speaker 5: foot in the ground.
Speaker 1: Instinctively. I don't see it being an easy road back
Speaker 1: for him, but eventually hope. So because we're all this
Speaker 1: is reality. We're talking reality here. But that's all to say,
Speaker 1: we still very much are looking forward to what Savone
Speaker 1: revel will be ultimately in this league. Just give the
Speaker 1: young man some grace, is what we're saying. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't for those that might be doing so, you
Speaker 1: cannot look at him making his debut for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form equivalent or near to
Speaker 1: marveon Noovashowan return into this.
Speaker 5: So the Cowboys front office, they're they're goal their dream, right,
Speaker 5: their utopia is digs red on the outside blind.
Speaker 1: That's their vision. That's the yeah, right, no, which I like, No, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think it'd be great. So let's say, what was
Speaker 3: what was that?
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Speaker 1: where is I'm waiting on a call? I'm waiting on
Speaker 1: the calls?
Speaker 7: Kyle?
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Speaker 7: What's going on with your gentlemen house everybody this morning?
Speaker 7: We're wonderful and indeed, zeke I got I got some
Speaker 7: beef with you, man, I got some beef with you.
Speaker 7: This is the second time I heard this take and
Speaker 7: it's killing me. Okay. Now, don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 7: love my cowboys, all of them, all of them. But
Speaker 7: inconsistency is something we don't want. Okay, I understand. Uh.
Speaker 7: I heard you want girls talk boys talk with with
Speaker 7: my guy Josh Rodriguez shout out to you want girls talk,
Speaker 7: boys talking a good job? You said some things to
Speaker 7: kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Man, I'm not
Speaker 7: so sure. Tobert is the guy, and now I get
Speaker 7: he comes up big in spots where you need him.
Speaker 7: I get that. But if there's an opportunity for me
Speaker 7: from from the outside looking, and if there's an opportunity
Speaker 7: to have three physical, big bodied wide receivers who can
Speaker 7: get you, yet instead of being blown on and dropped
Speaker 7: at the spot of at the spot where you catch
Speaker 7: the ball, you wouldn't want to take that.
Speaker 1: Who are you referring to?
Speaker 7: I'm talking to one Jaalen Tobert and one Jonathan Mingo
Speaker 7: and or Ryan Floordino understood.
Speaker 5: So Toberd is a sure catcher, no question about that. Correct,
Speaker 5: he doesn't have any yak yardish, no question about that.
Speaker 5: But you see a problem with that because one of
Speaker 5: the best tight end in Cowboys history had no yak
Speaker 5: yards at all.
Speaker 7: I get that, Bussy, there's something, there's something that Jake
Speaker 7: Ferguson is doing that Jaalen Tobert is not Jake Ferguson. Now,
Speaker 7: granted you have you have Pickens and CD, so everybody's
Speaker 7: going to have all eyes on them. But even when
Speaker 7: CD was out, Ferguson still been catching touchdowns. I mean, now,
Speaker 7: I get it. He had seven touchdowns last year. It's
Speaker 7: to be commended. It's definitely to be commended, especially with
Speaker 7: CD being hurt all year last year no Dak Prescott.
Speaker 7: So it's definitely to be commended. But if there's a
Speaker 7: way that we can bolster this room to make it
Speaker 7: even more dangerous than what it is, would you not
Speaker 7: want to would you not want to make that move?
Speaker 7: I'll defer to the to the experts. You've played the game,
Speaker 7: You've seen it for yeah, I mean firsthand, So I
Speaker 7: mean just figured out I jump on in a like
Speaker 7: cleared this beef up that we got going on. Appreciate you,
Speaker 7: no problem, no problem, love you.
Speaker 1: Got hey always get to hear from you. Fam No.
Speaker 5: So the conversation that we were having on Girls Talk,
Speaker 5: Boys Talk was in reference to the addition potentially of
Speaker 5: a mingo and where Tobert fits in in this offensive scheme,
Speaker 5: And what I was informing them was saying that Tolbert
Speaker 5: is your sixth best option offensively, So being a he's
Speaker 5: your sixth best option offensively, it's very difficult to get
Speaker 5: the ball to everybody.
Speaker 1: So when you have a dominant name the six while
Speaker 1: we're at it, CD George Ferg Williams Turpin, that's your
Speaker 1: first five, I would agree. Okay, So Tobert's your sixth
Speaker 1: best option offensively, very difficult to get to give him
Speaker 1: the rock. Correct.
Speaker 5: So understanding that you're the sixth best option, your sixth
Speaker 5: best option most likely is going to be a role player,
Speaker 5: meaning that somebody that has get in there due to
Speaker 5: dirty work blocking. Right, you're a big receiver, you block,
Speaker 5: You're not fast, you're not quick, you're not twitchy. You
Speaker 5: make contested catches. That's what he does. You need a
Speaker 5: guy like that who's willing to go in there, who
Speaker 5: is being asked to go in and block? Okay, and
Speaker 5: can make contested catches. You need guys to fulfill those roles.
Speaker 5: So the conversation isn't about is he as explosive as Flinoy.
Speaker 1: No, he's not not even close to it.
Speaker 5: That's the reason why if Flonoid came in a game
Speaker 5: and it handed him the ball, like immediately, here, take
Speaker 5: the ball, You're fast. Okay, same thing they did with Turpin.
Speaker 5: Take the ball, You're fast. There's a role for Tobert
Speaker 5: on this squad. He's not what you anticipated him being,
Speaker 5: but your roster has evolved and players have evolved, right,
Speaker 5: so now he is subjected to being that guy for you,
Speaker 5: and that is okay. That's all I'm saying is okay.
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying him instead of Illinoy. I'm saying
Speaker 5: he does things that Illinoy doesn't do. If Illinoy does
Speaker 5: things that he doesn't do, so you can't cross compare them.
Speaker 5: But the scenario is going to bring out is going
Speaker 5: to require for them to be input it in different situations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really quickly, because I know Patrick has a great
Speaker 4: point coming up, but for me, it would be Jonathan
Speaker 4: Mingo all day, every day because of the advantage that
Speaker 4: he gives you from his size. I think the fact
Speaker 4: that he is a big bodied receiver that he does
Speaker 4: have yack ability. I think just as a threat, is
Speaker 4: going to give you more production than a Jalen Tolbert
Speaker 4: if he is able to do the same things that
Speaker 4: Jalen Tolbert is doing.
Speaker 1: Have we seen it?
Speaker 4: We have not seen it yet, but we haven't seen
Speaker 4: much of Jonathan Mingo to be fair much.
Speaker 3: Oh that was my point is I don't think we've
Speaker 3: seen it from Mingo either. I don't think I can
Speaker 3: practice one thousand percent say Jonathan Mingo is an upgrade
Speaker 3: over Jalen Tolbert. But I want to get the Patrick first,
Speaker 3: just based off yeah, this conversation, I think I'm leaning
Speaker 3: towards Isaiah here, but I want to hear Patrick.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me lead with this. Don't you in
Speaker 1: your life put Jalen Tolbert and.
Speaker 5: Jason No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. But
Speaker 5: he said, I was referring to the yak ability. Okay,
Speaker 5: like Tolber is going to catch the ball, He's not
Speaker 5: going to create a separation. But somebody's going to be
Speaker 5: on his back because he's not quick. And I hear
Speaker 5: what you're saying, but I'm talking about being okay with
Speaker 5: somebody just catching the ball.
Speaker 1: Okay, like that. That's what you're having to say, not comparing.
Speaker 1: No heck, no, okay, no, no, no, Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I don't want him. Listen to play with it.
Speaker 1: W W. You know he's gonna catch the ball. Don't
Speaker 1: expect him to break a tackle and go take off
Speaker 1: one time and he did want the same. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just want to Yeah. Now that being said, so everything
Speaker 1: you said about Tolbert is it is correct counterpoint for me.
Speaker 1: I don't think, having now finally seen what Ryan Flinoy
Speaker 1: can be, they've given him enough target so he can
Speaker 1: have a breakout game. And you've seen I think that
Speaker 1: we haven't seen enough of Mingo, but we have seen
Speaker 1: enough of Floyd. I think Flinoy is the sixth best
Speaker 1: option on offense. I think Tobert in the Mingo conversation
Speaker 1: now becomes behind Ryan Flinoy for me. Interesting, Now you
Speaker 1: said you know better than most. Okay, it's not simply
Speaker 1: about the ability to catch, but Flinoy has that right
Speaker 1: It's not simply about the y act, but Flanoy has
Speaker 1: that as well. Receivers have to be able to block
Speaker 1: and willing to block. Flinoy has proven more so to me,
Speaker 1: and that's simple sized willingness, and he has the physical
Speaker 1: stature and the aggressiveness, the violence to be able to
Speaker 1: do that. Also, when you look at penalties, let's let's
Speaker 1: talk everything penalties. Granted, Flinoy doesn't have as many reps
Speaker 1: in the league, so for compare, You're right, it's hard
Speaker 1: to compare because you could say, well, if you're extrapolate
Speaker 1: for how many wood Floyd probably have, we're not doing
Speaker 1: all that. You just know that Flinoy didn't have the
Speaker 1: penalties that For example, as Jaydon bleuw how he feels
Speaker 1: about that Tobert holding that deleted what would have been
Speaker 1: his biggest play thus far, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Or you go back to Cowboys in Green Bay the line,
Speaker 1: you know the penalty that helped custom that game. So
Speaker 1: Tobert has helped you win games. Talk about the Toad
Speaker 1: draftswag against the Packer. Packers, well, at least tie that game.
Speaker 3: He helped win the game Pittsburgh last year.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so he's helped definitely. Yeah, and he did it
Speaker 1: with with hurt man parts as he said, So I
Speaker 1: have a ton of respect for Tobert. So my take
Speaker 1: on Flinoy being higher on my list of offensive weaponry
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott is not a knock to Tobert. It's
Speaker 1: simply to say that when you factor everything in willingness
Speaker 1: to block, ability to block, lack of penalties, U yak
Speaker 1: yardage somebody who can attack at the point of the
Speaker 1: high point and catching traffic and get guys off of
Speaker 1: him like you're seeing him make guys miss in the
Speaker 1: open field, but also guys are falling off of him
Speaker 1: when they get his arms around him. So for me,
Speaker 1: I think the conversation is rightful with Mingo and Tobert,
Speaker 1: but I think Fanoy, Oh you got a moved up
Speaker 1: that Notoch, So he's the sixth give me the bigger threat. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I look at this, this skill set or the skill
Speaker 3: position group for the Cowboys as a basketball team and
Speaker 3: a reference here. You got a starting five.
Speaker 1: Of course, your your point guards, Dak Prescott, that's that's
Speaker 1: your guy.
Speaker 3: Then you've got Pickens, lamb Ferguson, and then Williams. Those
Speaker 3: are your four other guys, and they all play a
Speaker 3: specific role. Some are explosive, all can do their job
Speaker 3: at an extremely high level. That's your starting five, But
Speaker 3: you're starting five can't play the whole game, right, You're
Speaker 3: gonna have to have role players to come off the bench.
Speaker 3: That's where Turpin comes in. That's where Tolbert comes in.
Speaker 3: That's where Flinoy comes in.
Speaker 1: So the the.
Speaker 3: Knock on Tolbert a lot of it has to do
Speaker 3: with his draft stock and what they expected him to be.
Speaker 3: I think we've seen what Tolbert is and who he
Speaker 3: can be. He can make an impact. He can do
Speaker 3: certain things in this offense that can help you win
Speaker 3: football games. He's done something that Ryan Flanoy hasn't done,
Speaker 3: which is catch touchdown passes. Ryan Flanoy has zero touchdown
Speaker 3: passes in his career. But Ryan Flanoy has done something
Speaker 3: that Jalen Tolbert hasn't done. His explosiveness led to a
Speaker 3: one hundred yard receiving game, whereas Jalen Tolbert has never
Speaker 3: had a one hundred yard receiving game. So it's not
Speaker 3: an either or question unless you're trying to make a
Speaker 3: roster move. And that's where Jonathan Mingo enters the Fold,
Speaker 3: of course, So it's all about what they see in
Speaker 3: their scheme, in their system and how they're going to
Speaker 3: employ that plan under their starting five moving forward. Because
Speaker 3: this would be a much heftier conversation if Lamb and
Speaker 3: Pickens were out like we've seen Lamb out this year,
Speaker 3: Pickens stepped up and they just fed him the rock.
Speaker 1: More and more.
Speaker 3: If Pickens was never in the Fold to start this season,
Speaker 3: it would be a bigger role because you need one
Speaker 3: of those role players to step into a starting role.
Speaker 3: You don't need that right now, but what you do
Speaker 3: need is to field a capable team around you're starting
Speaker 3: five and give you something that you don't have somewhere aut.
Speaker 1: Real quick look at mel ask are we apologizing because
Speaker 1: flow is better?
Speaker 7: Hell?
Speaker 1: No, you know who you're asking this though.
Speaker 13: This is Flow Hive baby, exactly. We've always been on
Speaker 13: Flo bandwagon and we've had we've had plenty of criticism
Speaker 13: for Jalen Tolbert. But it's an either or question, right.
Speaker 4: But I mean, look to the future, because I don't
Speaker 4: think you. I mean, look at just simply the contracts
Speaker 4: you have Mingo on contract for at least two more
Speaker 4: years correct, one after this year, one after this year,
Speaker 4: and then you also have Floy with his draft pick.
Speaker 4: So two more years, right, Jalen.
Speaker 1: Tolbert's not coming back, probably not.
Speaker 4: So, I mean so at that point, then then there's
Speaker 4: why not incorporate him more into the offense that you're
Speaker 4: to keep running.
Speaker 1: Sean hum is going to be here next year. He's here,
Speaker 1: and I know we got get out to the next collar,
Speaker 1: but but he's here. He's been productive. What you is
Speaker 1: he explosive?
Speaker 5: No, And that's why people like the shiny thing in Flinoid.
Speaker 5: He's the shiny thing. He's an explosive player. He can
Speaker 5: you look forward to what he can do when he
Speaker 5: gets the ball in his hands. But the reality is
Speaker 5: Torbert has shown you he consistently that he can get
Speaker 5: the ball in his hands.
Speaker 3: When one of those starting five is out, Ryan Flinoy
Speaker 3: is a better fit to fill that role. But when
Speaker 3: they're all together and that starting five is all complete,
Speaker 3: maybe you need a steady.
Speaker 1: Hand in the fold.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of the thought process there. It's dependent
Speaker 3: on the situation and it's a good problem to have.
Speaker 3: This is a great problem. You got seven capable wide
Speaker 3: receivers and pass catchers or skilled players around Dak Prescott
Speaker 3: that you feel very confident.
Speaker 1: Will you make it inactive? And yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 1: going to be Foster. But once Mingo gets up to speed,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to seeing him with Dak, because
Speaker 1: that was one thing that I hated last year is
Speaker 1: that you could not gauge Mingo because Cooper Rush has
Speaker 1: zero connection. Now he couldn't, right, But once Mingo gets
Speaker 1: up to speed, assuming.
Speaker 5: We don't know what he can do, right, we truly
Speaker 5: don't exactly what We truly don't know what I mean, assuming.
Speaker 1: They Trevor Keagan, just hypothetically, if he goes to ire,
Speaker 1: assuming they don't wave a receiver, that means you're going
Speaker 1: super heavy at receiver. Super so somebody's gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 1: who's going to be an actor?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: We got to get to her a second.
Speaker 1: Collegeames, Troy, Troy and Philly. That's a good question to
Speaker 1: Troy and Philly. You're on talking cowboys? What's up Troy?
Speaker 14: Hey my guys, how you guys doing?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 14: Hey, hey man? Well, first of all, Friday's called on
Speaker 14: Friday's Show was special. Josh, keep it coming. I mean
Speaker 14: you know, except for the you know, no, no, you
Speaker 14: ask for it.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 14: As far as where the team is, I'm actually pretty
Speaker 14: good with where the team is three three and one.
Speaker 14: A couple of games ID like to have back, particularly
Speaker 14: to Chicago and Carolina games I'd like to have back.
Speaker 14: But I'm okay with this with where the team is.
Speaker 14: Considering the I believe they have an elite quarterback, weapons
Speaker 14: all around them, good coaching. I'm I'm good with that
Speaker 14: because I believe in in in years past, this team
Speaker 14: has peaked a little too soon or in September, October,
Speaker 14: maybe early November, they go on six seven, eight game
Speaker 14: winning streaks or maybe five and one six on whatever
Speaker 14: it is, and I think they peak a little too
Speaker 14: soon and then sort of limp into the playoffs. So
Speaker 14: as long as this team is a sending, I'm good
Speaker 14: with that. But that's that leads me to my question.
Speaker 14: I wanted to ask you guys, is there a and
Speaker 14: I know you guys can't mention names, but is there
Speaker 14: a Pickens type player out there that maybe a team
Speaker 14: don't want or don't think that they're going to be
Speaker 14: able to sign them, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 14: On defense, that the general manager, the owner thinks that
Speaker 14: he can believe that he can go out and get
Speaker 14: and get this defense maybe from thirty wherever it is,
Speaker 14: thirty one, thirty two, whatever it is, to that fifteen
Speaker 14: to twenty range, and what position do you think that
Speaker 14: that may that guy may be out there?
Speaker 3: Thank God, Thanks Troy and Philly for the call.
Speaker 1: Great question.
Speaker 3: I know one name what was that we hit on
Speaker 3: this a little bit. Yeah, we talked about it a
Speaker 3: little bit yesterday on whether or not there needs to
Speaker 3: be a move made moving forward. I think there's one
Speaker 3: name that we can talk about because he's a free
Speaker 3: agent that Isaiah has been very adamant on trying to
Speaker 3: go and join forces with. He wants Christian Wilkins.
Speaker 1: He really Yeah, he's tickled by Christian wilm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the idea certainly has him infatuated whenever it comes
Speaker 3: to putting him on the defensive line. But as far
Speaker 3: as the trade goes, if you're going to get an
Speaker 3: impact player on defense in the middle of a season, it's.
Speaker 1: Going to cost you a pretty penny. On cost you little,
Speaker 1: it's going to cost you lot a lot it's going.
Speaker 3: So what do you think, Pat when you look at
Speaker 3: other rosters are around the league.
Speaker 1: There are there are a couple names that we can't say,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, we can't. But I've said this on
Speaker 1: the show as recently as a couple weeks ago, when
Speaker 1: maybe even last week, when you asked me to put
Speaker 1: on the GM cap, I said I would make a trade.
Speaker 1: I would be willing to part with one of those
Speaker 1: first round picks that you got in to deal with Micah,
Speaker 1: and I would address the defensive imposition. And I get
Speaker 1: what you're saying with the defensive tackle. I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see where perry On Winfrey is in his return behind
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark and trying to boaster that situation. But we'll see.
Speaker 1: I am more confident in the run defense getting back
Speaker 1: to where they need to be than I am with
Speaker 1: the outlook for the past rush. I know what you
Speaker 1: have with James Houston. Love that. I love that I
Speaker 1: see Jadavion Clowney finding his groove. I love that I
Speaker 1: see Dante Fowler getting on the right track and kind
Speaker 1: of getting close to what we know Dante can be.
Speaker 1: But as we have this conversation, am I willing to
Speaker 1: bet the season on it?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: I am not, which means I am willing to part
Speaker 1: ways with one of those picks to go go and
Speaker 1: get a George Pickens type guy. And there's one in
Speaker 1: my in my mind right now. I can't see his name,
Speaker 1: but ye, the guy's quite a tiger. Yeah understood.
Speaker 5: There are some solid D linemen on some teams that
Speaker 5: suck right now, some solid interior D linemen. I would
Speaker 5: like to have a defensive end to go out there
Speaker 5: and get some pressure. But the reality is, if you
Speaker 5: can stop a team from running the ball, you can
Speaker 5: elicit pressure.
Speaker 1: Right last week, Yeah, so I would love to go
Speaker 1: get the free agent, the tickler a law or I
Speaker 1: sure can. I would love to go get him.
Speaker 5: Or I would like to grab one of these guys
Speaker 5: from from one of these teams that.
Speaker 1: Just are terrible and they're going nowhere right now. And
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans have have some big fellas, some big fellas
Speaker 1: up front that are big time run stoppers, and I
Speaker 1: think that they are most likely exploring all options.
Speaker 3: That are on the table, so you're not looking at
Speaker 3: pass rush to bolster.
Speaker 1: I would much rather put it like this. If Clark
Speaker 1: gets hurt, what do you what do you mean? That
Speaker 1: would be rough. That's why I say, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you saw that on Sunday. Came out of the game. Great,
Speaker 1: thank god you went back in.
Speaker 4: But it's like, if that is not indicative of a
Speaker 4: winning series.
Speaker 1: That's what he's out because he is such.
Speaker 4: A crucial element to that defense.
Speaker 1: Creded for him for.
Speaker 5: That hope, that flash in front of all the decision
Speaker 5: maker's eyes like, oh he's down, Like he very easily
Speaker 5: could have torn his whole el ball off on that
Speaker 5: play and you would have been sitting up there like,
Speaker 5: all right, Mizzie, let's go.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I will say if if, if that's what you're going
Speaker 1: to do, I'm with you on I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm with you on on the who. But that's a
Speaker 1: free agency thing that I would do, Like because you've
Speaker 1: already traded to acquire a guy Kenny Clark right there.
Speaker 1: I'm not trading to acquire another guy. Why there? I
Speaker 1: just you have the depth there?
Speaker 7: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with the depth there?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you. I'm good with the free agent?
Speaker 1: Are you good with Mizzi Smith? Are you good with Joy?
Speaker 1: Right now? You're not good with either one of them?
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, that's that's that's I also said, I
Speaker 1: need to know where Perryon is in his recovery. I
Speaker 1: need to know. But is he a dominant I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm saying dominant.
Speaker 5: If you can have two surf dominant interior defensive line
Speaker 5: run stoppers and not even talking about I'm talking about
Speaker 5: two interior big fellas, you're not running the ball in here.
Speaker 5: You change the entire dynamic of your defense, especially when
Speaker 5: you have linebackers that are most likely undersized, considered to
Speaker 5: be undersized, that fly around and hit. If you can
Speaker 5: free up those linebackers to run and hit, and then
Speaker 5: you can go out there and press man with your
Speaker 5: utopia of defensive backs that you have right with Revel
Speaker 5: and dB and Diggs. If that's your what you're trying
Speaker 5: to get to stop the run forces cast to pass.
Speaker 1: I will get some pressure. I'll send one additional linebacker.
Speaker 5: I'll send Leah Foil, I'll send Overshown, I'll send Shamar James,
Speaker 5: I'll send whoever to get some more pressure.
Speaker 1: Oh, just like you just saw this past week. But listen, schematically,
Speaker 1: I have one percent agree with you. How we get
Speaker 1: there is where we're not on the same page. Example,
Speaker 1: So what you're wanting is a one tech situation that
Speaker 1: mirrors to three tech situation you have. Osa, You have
Speaker 1: Sally Sally, Osa Sal Sally Sally was a free agency
Speaker 1: and he's older. That's fair. I'm simply saying that you
Speaker 1: could solve this in free agency and I will be
Speaker 1: more comfortable with it. And honestly, if you not, I'm
Speaker 1: not out on Wilkins. But if you're coming to me
Speaker 1: and you're saying, would you rather trade to acquire someone
Speaker 1: behind Kenny Clark or would you rather go with Wilkins,
Speaker 1: then I would rather go.
Speaker 5: I don't think that Wilkins is healthy. Otherwise he would
Speaker 5: have been gone by now, right, So I don't think
Speaker 5: he's healthy. But I, or you can tell HI might
Speaker 5: be the other thing, if you can tell me if
Speaker 5: that's too But if you could tell me that I
Speaker 5: could put somebody next to Kenny Clark that's going to
Speaker 5: demand the respect of the opposing offensive.
Speaker 1: Line, man, give me that dude.
Speaker 5: Give me like this dude in the one technique, this
Speaker 5: dude in the three technique. We can't move these guys.
Speaker 1: We can't.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Osa, Osa, go do what you do Solomon cool? Right,
Speaker 5: and then young fellas y'all sprinkling there as well. Right,
Speaker 5: But like being able to put two guys on the
Speaker 5: inside between the guard and the center is saying yeah, nah,
Speaker 5: not in here, player, Like that changes absolutely if you're
Speaker 5: playing Madden, that changes anything you like.
Speaker 1: But I'm going outside. I mean, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question there, Alan Kine combos what you're talking about, Yeah,
Speaker 1: washing it in which you did not want to run straight?
Speaker 3: Josh is gonna ask this question, and then we got
Speaker 3: to go to break.
Speaker 1: Just really quickly.
Speaker 4: I feel like if you bring in a pass rusher
Speaker 4: as opposed to a defensive tackle, I think that is
Speaker 4: going to improve the play of oh So Diggiz. I
Speaker 4: really think he benefited obviously he benefited from the pass
Speaker 4: rusher of Michael Parsons when Michael Parsons was here. If
Speaker 4: you bring in a guy that is able to give
Speaker 4: you an upgrade of what you currently over what you
Speaker 4: currently have in Sam Williams, please you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: I think you need to do that. I think that's
Speaker 4: the move that I would make currently. But I also
Speaker 4: just beef up the defensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: In any way, whether it's an end whether it's interior.
Speaker 1: Fine with that interior.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with the interior being an important part
Speaker 3: of this whole puzzle in how it is. But would
Speaker 3: you say this year twenty twenty five is the best
Speaker 3: interior defensive line play the Cowboys have had in Tayta
Speaker 3: for sure pushing over days, Yeah, absolutely and totally I
Speaker 3: completely agree. But if you're gonna spend high draft capital
Speaker 3: to do something, even with the best interior defensive line
Speaker 3: play that we've had in ten years in the Cowboys organization,
Speaker 3: you've had one of the worst.
Speaker 1: Pass rushes we've there.
Speaker 3: That's in the same time, you.
Speaker 1: Can even with one play exactly.
Speaker 3: Let's just agree. If you want to sure up the
Speaker 3: depth of your defensive tackle room, sure, fine, go make
Speaker 3: it happen. Just don't spend first round draft picks to
Speaker 3: go get somebody.
Speaker 5: I did say, Yeah, I'm gonna s saying first round
Speaker 5: because I don't know who you would trade a first
Speaker 5: interior d lineman.
Speaker 1: But I know we gotta go. But I.
Speaker 5: You have to be dominant somewhere. Yeah, you can't just
Speaker 5: be across the board. So if you're close, if you
Speaker 5: think that you're closest to being dominant on an interior,
Speaker 5: then become dominant.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, all right.
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Speaker 1: What a big fight?
Speaker 8: Well, what's going on? Guys? I want to say the
Speaker 8: biggest improvement I think for the Cowboys is obviously our defense.
Speaker 8: Hopefully we can just keep it up. I just you know,
Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, we get certain guys back
Speaker 8: over here back in a couple of weeks. It's just
Speaker 8: I want to just I want to see us be
Speaker 8: consistent on defense. It's you know, we talk about it
Speaker 8: all the times. That's that's that's my biggest takeaway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta be better on the defensive side. And we
Speaker 3: saw a step in the right direction, uh, coming up
Speaker 3: this past Sunday. That's the biggest thing. And that's part
Speaker 3: of what our debate was in the last segment, it
Speaker 3: was you were trying to beef up this defense enough
Speaker 3: to keep the moment and rolling in the right direction
Speaker 3: because your offense is elite. We've had that whole debate
Speaker 3: for a week now on this show, and I think
Speaker 3: we're seeing why that's the case.
Speaker 1: What do your linebackers do best? Run a hit down
Speaker 1: heroside down downhill? You think so? You think you're your
Speaker 1: entire linebacker corps. No, not an entire I'm talking about
Speaker 1: entire linebacker corps demo as well. Yeah, okay, sideline the sideline,
Speaker 1: right demo, certainly demo dem it's sidelined a sideline. But
Speaker 1: they are very different players. Mars, would you consider him
Speaker 1: down sideline the sideline?
Speaker 3: Kenneth Murray absolutely not, Jack Sanborn absolutely not. Marius Leah
Speaker 3: foul and Demarvi and Overshown who are right now have
Speaker 3: been either off the field entirely or not on the
Speaker 3: field at all. A ton in marrisle the guys you
Speaker 3: haven't been playing their sideline the sideline.
Speaker 5: So the guys that have been playing, so talking about
Speaker 5: a better down, so talking about potential additions for your
Speaker 5: future moves because games that are coming up as your future, right,
Speaker 5: So are we are we talking about what has been
Speaker 5: on the field in Sanborn? Are we going to talk
Speaker 5: about what is going to be on the field, which
Speaker 5: is who they're going to put.
Speaker 1: You got to look at Shamar because you know like
Speaker 1: he's getting tackling machine. Yeah, he's a tackling machine all over.
Speaker 3: So if that Sanbourne, if you have the linebacker, that's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If your linebackers can run and hit, which is what
Speaker 1: Dallas's linebackers do, right, your chances of you out running
Speaker 1: them sideline the sideline is slimming none correct.
Speaker 5: Put the big boys up front, go get it, Go
Speaker 5: get a big boy so that they teams have to
Speaker 5: I just run sideline the sideline. The chances it doesn't
Speaker 5: fix your pastors, but you can get pressure by by
Speaker 5: sending blizzes.
Speaker 1: If your goal.
Speaker 5: If you stop the run and now teams have to pass,
Speaker 5: and you have corners that you think now or that
Speaker 5: you've seen can play man the man defense.
Speaker 1: Now I have an extra guid to go send to you.
Speaker 1: But they are two to Coll's point, there are two,
Speaker 1: including the return of Demo. There are two linebackers in
Speaker 1: this depth dart that you cannot outrun sideline. The sideline
Speaker 1: it's demo and that's Marist. Okay, Shamar, maybe like Spades,
Speaker 1: it's impossible. Maybe you can't outrun Shamar because he's a
Speaker 1: tackling machine. You can probably outrun Murray. You can outrun
Speaker 1: Sandborn once you get is not gonna be on the field. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying because you're like, do you have linebackers
Speaker 1: that he can But what I'm saying, but with this
Speaker 1: defense you're playing how many linebackers two? Exactly?
Speaker 3: Yeah, big boyfriend, I still think you need to up
Speaker 3: your pass rush. I'm okay with depth.
Speaker 5: There's no team that's gonna give up their number one
Speaker 5: pass right, nobody's giving up their number one pass rusher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 3: It's not you're gonna pay, You're gonna break the bank
Speaker 3: to go do it.
Speaker 1: Teams will give up their interior d line.
Speaker 3: Now, all right, we've got to go here on talking Cowboys.
Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna preview a little QB
Speaker 3: vision the Cowboys offense against that upcoming defense in the
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: That defense is nasty coming up there.
Speaker 3: They lost one they did, they certainly will tomorrow on
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