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<v Speaker 1>The following.

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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live.

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<v Speaker 3>From the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at.

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<v Speaker 1>The Star in Frisco. Tech Boarders Here. That's got kick takestown.

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<v Speaker 2>And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by

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<v Speaker 3>Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>in the s w b C Studios. Welcome in, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you

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<v Speaker 3>to rock today with Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Beam in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kin Yeoman's so glad you're with us. Give us

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<v Speaker 1>a call eight eight eight eight five five two two

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<v Speaker 1>nine seven. Do not waste any time.

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<v Speaker 4>Say it got me now, it's officially it's talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's officially Talking Tuesday eight nine seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Family, Family, Family, fandomily, famominily. Yeah, there there is hope

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<v Speaker 1>in this world. Oh yeah, you guys are for those

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<v Speaker 1>visuals that are watching visually. You guys. See this paper

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<v Speaker 1>airplane right here that I made out of a American

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<v Speaker 1>dollar bill in the middle of the show yesterday. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this US currency right here.

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<v Speaker 5>I we put we put this out there, and we

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<v Speaker 5>left it on the table when we didn't We did

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<v Speaker 5>not have a lot of faith it was gonna it

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<v Speaker 5>was going to exist and still be here today.

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<v Speaker 1>Who thought it was gonna be here today? Nobody?

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<v Speaker 6>I do it?

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<v Speaker 1>No way, did you guys? I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys did or not.

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<v Speaker 5>But guess what, I have to go fingerprint this because

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<v Speaker 5>I want to know exactly who picked it, who picked

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<v Speaker 5>it up, who looked at it? And I believe that

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<v Speaker 5>one Derk Eagleton could not pass up the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 5>pick up this dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and look around. The accusation has seen anybody was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see him. The accusation has been Levy would Dusties

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<v Speaker 1>and I will come back with the report.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Derek, you get your forensics files on always

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<v Speaker 3>breaker on notice.

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<v Speaker 1>Derek, you've got twenty four hours to respond. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're still there, They're still there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you gonna leave it there today and see if

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<v Speaker 3>it stays another day?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that much faith that's going yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you're just tempting fit.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, our family is gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up Isaiah standback. Today his Seattle Mariners let it

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<v Speaker 3>slip in the bottom of the seventh inning to the

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<v Speaker 3>Toronto Blue Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, buddy, bro, we were freaking nine outs. You were

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<v Speaker 1>so head nine outs.

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<v Speaker 5>Bro, We were pitchers were doing good, defense was playing well,

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<v Speaker 5>offense stepped up. Just just maintain the lead, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying. Just maintain the lead if they if

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<v Speaker 5>they get a base hit. H you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>But like, we don't give gifts. That was like King

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<v Speaker 5>Si snicker bar on the freaking porch for for for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't leave that in the hood. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>You leave kings I Snickers on the porch in the

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<v Speaker 5>hood and put it says take one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they're gonna do. They're taking a whole bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what happened yesterday. It took the whole bowl yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody put a Snickers out there and said, just take one.

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<v Speaker 8>Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys have a two point lead, a two run league,

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<v Speaker 5>Just take one and go on.

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<v Speaker 1>About your business, bud, and they said, Nah. Springer was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a whole bowl with me, buddy. I'm heartbroken.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm heartbroken for you, not only because yea friends the Mariners.

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<v Speaker 3>Well not well, there's that.

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<v Speaker 1>We still remain the only team, only team.

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<v Speaker 3>That has never made it to the World Series and.

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<v Speaker 1>A team. I'm sorry, but you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>The guys that I know, Julio Roderiguez HiT's a bomb,

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<v Speaker 3>So I was happy. Julio's guy I love, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't fault.

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<v Speaker 5>Him for taking a swing on that last pitch. It

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<v Speaker 5>was a bad pitch, but he tried to watch that

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<v Speaker 5>last pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>They are who thought they? Who was part of our.

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<v Speaker 3>In the minor league team. He never actually played for

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<v Speaker 3>the Power when I was there, but he was a

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<v Speaker 3>part of our media day. Got to know him a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, really cool, down the earth guy. He hits

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<v Speaker 3>a bomb. And then the fact that George Springer is

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<v Speaker 3>the one that gets done a former astro.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sorry, but that's it for Baseball talk. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go Dodgers News and Notes America. Yeah, that's true, Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's crazy. It's Kendrick versus Drake All over all

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<v Speaker 1>over again. Wow. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna win it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I can go for the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll tell you what news and notes, Patrick knows

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<v Speaker 1>he walk away. Hey man. So let's start with a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of bad news, which is that Trevon Diggs

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<v Speaker 1>is still in the concussion protocol per Branch Schottenheimer. Trevon

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<v Speaker 1>Diggs did come to the building yesterday to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get cleared, but they looked at him and said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, you still don't look quite great, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah nah, So they sent him home. So they sent

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<v Speaker 1>him home. So we'll see how that goes this week. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>would you like some good news? I would would you

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<v Speaker 1>like some great Oh? I got some great news? All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cowboys are actually obviously they have several on IR

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<v Speaker 1>but headline bean Agent zero will return to practice on

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow over shown, we'll have his twenty one day practice

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<v Speaker 1>window activated effective tomorrow. Window is Yeah, I need you

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<v Speaker 1>to He tweeted it this way like I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sell Reddy moss us to know about the horizontal Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he did tweet it after the show yesterday. Of

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<v Speaker 3>course it wasn't in the show of course always after

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<v Speaker 3>T minus twenty one. He did love it and he's

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<v Speaker 3>he's pumped. I talked to him last night. We had

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<v Speaker 3>an event together last night at the three Forks down the.

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<v Speaker 1>Road, and man, he is pumped.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he is super exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Now a bit of a housekeeping note because he did

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<v Speaker 1>tweet that on yesterday, but the clock is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be started until Wednesday tomorrow, So we got that clarification.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there were there were multiple reports out there

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<v Speaker 1>saying that the Cowboys had already started the clock. That's

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<v Speaker 1>actually actually not true. They're gonna wait until Wednesday because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to just unnecessarily burn those two days.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know there are some people asking me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Pat, is it twenty one practices? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one? You know business days like money through no

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<v Speaker 1>business day? It is twenty Amazon, it's twenty one postal

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<v Speaker 1>service time. It is twenty one calendar days. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys activating him, oh, not activating him, but bringing him

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<v Speaker 1>back to practice activating that twenty one day window. They

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<v Speaker 1>have until I believe right after the bio, so November

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth is when they would have to make a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>So they do get the bye week of not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of working that in as well. So great news there,

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<v Speaker 1>would you like more? Great news?

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<v Speaker 4>That would put him on pace for the Raiders, right,

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<v Speaker 4>which is right before the Eagles game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's right before the Eagles. You're right, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders game would be awesome. Yeah, that means that morrownover

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<v Speaker 1>shown has a great chance of being on the field

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<v Speaker 1>for the Raiders, which gives him a good shot at

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<v Speaker 1>ramping up for a very very important division matchup against

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Eagles when they come to Armington. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>picked up.

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<v Speaker 3>So would you say it's good to bet on the

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<v Speaker 3>Marvin Overshow being in Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Actually, we don't bet on this show. We don't, gentlemen, gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good gamble, Not that, gentle gentleman. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Kyle spoke with Demo yesterday, said he's excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had endless conversation with Demo just throughout the process

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<v Speaker 1>of the recovery, and at every single point he's just

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<v Speaker 1>been positive and just grinding, and he's never you would

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<v Speaker 1>never be able to tell that this is a young

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<v Speaker 1>man or a grown man who has been through not

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<v Speaker 1>just one devastating knee injury, but to like hand one

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<v Speaker 1>back in college is just a ball of positivity and

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<v Speaker 1>hope and optimism, and you just love the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's coming back to give Kyle and Isaiah and Josh

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<v Speaker 1>and myself exactly what we want, which is that vocal leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there anybody else's window? Yeah, but that's what I say.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like some more greade? Please? It's not as

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as uh excelsior as the demo news, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still big news. Savone Revel, rookie third round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>will be at practice on Wednesday. Quarterback hold on, quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on holding Savone revels back. He's back on for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. Back like yep, is it back? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is it it's here? He's here, He's back for Savone

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<v Speaker 1>Revel is here, Chris. If I may, you may, I

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<v Speaker 1>like those words? You may save old Rebel. He will

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<v Speaker 1>have his towards you. One day practice window activated as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty one suffered to torn acl East Carolina in September

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four that ended his collegiate career, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is ready. Talked to him yesterday. He's in good spirits,

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<v Speaker 1>great spirits. Actually, he's been in great spirits this entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>But he tells me that he's now gotten used to

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<v Speaker 1>the brace that Britt Brown and the trainers want him

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<v Speaker 1>to use. That's one of the reasons why they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of held back a little bit on activating his practice window.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted him to get accustomed to trying to see

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<v Speaker 1>if the brace could be comfortable for him. And now

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<v Speaker 1>it is. He said, his knee feels great, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what set back? Those are two dogs that are coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>One is the Marvin Overshon and of course we've had

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<v Speaker 3>that conversation already and what he could bring as a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 3>but savone rebel was a first round caliber corner yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And if he's one hundred percent or even close to

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent, he's going to be a massive uptick

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<v Speaker 3>from what you have currently at that position.

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<v Speaker 1>Delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are two position groups that need reinforce and they're

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<v Speaker 3>on their way.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like another dog there? Would you like more

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<v Speaker 1>great news? Well, it's more great, there's no way there is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the offensive side of the ball. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you like would you like to give more to this

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<v Speaker 1>very wealthy offense? Please? Starting center Cooper Bby. Oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>also see his twenty one day practice window Actors twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one one. Cooper Baby he is uh, he would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to practice field on.

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<v Speaker 3>So is this just like the third rounder enforcement party

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<v Speaker 3>you got? And then Cooper Bby. It's just all these

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<v Speaker 3>third rounders coming out of the smoke like like an

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<v Speaker 3>explosion in the back.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the worst of edgers you can They're ready to

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<v Speaker 4>make it all happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, we're top one hundred picks. We make this happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cool with its good. That's awesome. So you get

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<v Speaker 1>you got you got your starting starting right guard back,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in Tyler Bookery. Now you get your starting center

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<v Speaker 1>back soon. And Cooper Beby. I will say that Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>Bby has been moving very well. He doesn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>added tape or anything or that ankle kind of braces

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<v Speaker 1>or devices or anything. Big man looks looks good, looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>So ready for Cooper bb to get back out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And Durdham, as he was known to do at Kassas State,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it to the offensive side of the ball. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you like to make this wealthy offense wealthier? Is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's another one.

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<v Speaker 1>There is another one. Not that you need it, but

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<v Speaker 1>here comes another wide receiver, Jonathan Mingo Bingo. Jonathan Mingo

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<v Speaker 1>is being activated from IR to the active fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>man roster this week. Wow, Cowboys will need to make

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<v Speaker 1>a corresponding move because his window is closing. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the corresponding move quite yet will be. That's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a very very interesting conversation because we

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<v Speaker 1>definitely know that. But you're not going to clear rianfling

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<v Speaker 1>or through waivers after what.

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<v Speaker 9>He has done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't. Yeah, you cannot risk that one at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So that'll be interesting. So Jonathan Mingo officially back off

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<v Speaker 1>of IR at some point this week when they make

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<v Speaker 1>the transaction. The reasons not yet. It's because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, they need to make sure that they make

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<v Speaker 1>what they feel is going to be the right decision

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<v Speaker 1>as far as who they wait to them. But they

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<v Speaker 1>got to make the decision by tomorrow. I guess his

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<v Speaker 1>dadline is tomorrow wondering. I guess if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a move, I guess you have to make a move. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that it would most likely make sense for

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<v Speaker 1>it to be at the cornerback position. Not because you

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<v Speaker 1>can withstand that or you know what I'm saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>actually handle that right now.

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<v Speaker 5>But you're going to have to make another move to

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<v Speaker 5>get readable on the rand. Butler, Yeah, eventually on the roster.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think that that'sop. Yeah, that's I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>probably the spot that you have to pull from.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Butler last night.

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<v Speaker 3>He was also there and he said, same kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, it's just depending on time and where they

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<v Speaker 3>need the bodies and what happens. But he's he was

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<v Speaker 3>remember like one week after to Marve and overshow and

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<v Speaker 3>tore his acls the same injury. It was very bang

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<v Speaker 3>bang right next to each other. So they're they're close

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<v Speaker 3>on the same timeline. So you could expect Butler in

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<v Speaker 3>his window to open at some point.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you most skeptical about in terms of their ability

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<v Speaker 5>to come back, cause does not act like if we

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<v Speaker 5>just expect these guys to come back on her.

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<v Speaker 4>I granted, I haven't seen a lot of civone Revels

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<v Speaker 4>contributions in college personally, but I would be remiss to say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to come in and absolutely dominate. I think

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things that Kyle's brought up several times

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<v Speaker 4>is that he was playing in a smaller school and

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<v Speaker 4>for his last snaps to be against Appalachian State, then

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<v Speaker 4>to come in the NFL and be guarding you know,

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<v Speaker 4>some of.

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<v Speaker 1>The best receivers in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, it's I can't personally expect him to be a

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<v Speaker 4>shutdown corner. I think we all sort of are reeling

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<v Speaker 4>from seat Belt Carson, right like that. That name that

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<v Speaker 4>Moniker was kind of give him to him really early.

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<v Speaker 4>The number twenty one was get to him pretty early

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<v Speaker 4>on in his career, and that came with a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of expectation. I don't want to go in with any

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<v Speaker 4>expectation for Sevie Rebel because I want him to make

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<v Speaker 4>a name for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree and for every reason that Josh said for

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<v Speaker 1>me a Savone Revel, it's not because of lack of ability.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know Savone Revel has an extremely high ceiling.

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<v Speaker 1>But this, unlike to Mariveano, was shown this is a rookie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one hundred percent of rookie, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie coming from a group of five programs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and I worked for the American Conference. I love

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the the facts of the facts, he's coming

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<v Speaker 3>from where he was playing against, And I pulled up

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<v Speaker 3>the guy's name again because I just think it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Caden Robinson was the last guy at Appalachian State that

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<v Speaker 3>Savone Rebel covered, and if his twenty one day practice

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<v Speaker 3>window opens up this week or next week, the next

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<v Speaker 3>guy he would cover would probably be DeVante Smith, who

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<v Speaker 3>had one hundred and sixty three yards last week yeah

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<v Speaker 3>for the Eagles and former Heisman winner out Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 3>it is a little bit different and it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>take an adjustment period. But when we're talking about guys

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<v Speaker 3>that can develop into something special, and we've seen rookie

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<v Speaker 3>corners stand.

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<v Speaker 1>Out in a big way before.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had it happen with Diggs, We've had it happen

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<v Speaker 3>with Bland. Those guys step up big as rookies and

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<v Speaker 3>then they end up having great careers. It can't happen,

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<v Speaker 3>But neither Bland nor Dickx hasn't come off of a

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<v Speaker 3>major injury in the middle of the season to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Tomorveion is going to make an impact

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<v Speaker 1>this season. I feel like the appropriate expectation is to

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<v Speaker 1>look for civil on revel to start making an impact

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<v Speaker 1>next season. He's got to get a full off season

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<v Speaker 1>of work with the coaching staff and then the system.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I mean if he gets thrown in, not

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<v Speaker 1>thrown in, but if he gets any playing time this year,

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<v Speaker 1>which it looks like he will. The fact is he

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of being thrown in because he hasn't had

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<v Speaker 1>an off season absolutely, which adds to everything we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about coming from East Carolina and the competition that he

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<v Speaker 1>went up against versus what awaits him in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional rookie curve, even if he was at a

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<v Speaker 1>power school, right so, I'm less concerned about his competition

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<v Speaker 1>level he's coming from.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm more concerned about the fact that he has an

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<v Speaker 5>ACO and he's a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a reactionary position. That's fair.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like being

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<v Speaker 5>on the bands with brit Brown, that's awesome, but there's

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<v Speaker 5>no reaction that's required. There's no type of rep like

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<v Speaker 5>a live there's no reps like a receiver running out you.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm sure they've had some half speed reps along

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<v Speaker 5>the way, but until you are backpedaling and somebody breaks

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<v Speaker 5>in front of you, and you got to put your

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<v Speaker 5>foot in the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Instinctively. I don't see it being an easy road back

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<v Speaker 1>for him, but eventually hope. So because we're all this

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<v Speaker 1>is reality. We're talking reality here. But that's all to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we still very much are looking forward to what Savone

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<v Speaker 1>revel will be ultimately in this league. Just give the

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<v Speaker 1>young man some grace, is what we're saying. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't for those that might be doing so, you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot look at him making his debut for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>in any way, shape or form equivalent or near to

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<v Speaker 1>marveon Noovashowan return into this.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Cowboys front office, they're they're goal their dream, right,

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<v Speaker 5>their utopia is digs red on the outside blind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their vision. That's the yeah, right, no, which I like, No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the vision.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it'd be great. So let's say, what was

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<v Speaker 3>what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing? No, no, no, no, no, no no no no. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>where is I'm waiting on a call? I'm waiting on

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<v Speaker 1>the calls?

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<v Speaker 7>Kyle?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So somebody asked Isaiah about what he meant

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta Isaiah? Is not what I had on? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you all, that's what's now. That's just just

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<v Speaker 7>What's going on with your gentlemen house everybody this morning?

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<v Speaker 7>We're wonderful and indeed, zeke I got I got some

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<v Speaker 7>beef with you, man, I got some beef with you.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the second time I heard this take and

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<v Speaker 7>it's killing me. Okay. Now, don't get me wrong. I

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<v Speaker 7>love my cowboys, all of them, all of them. But

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<v Speaker 7>inconsistency is something we don't want. Okay, I understand. Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>I heard you want girls talk boys talk with with

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<v Speaker 7>my guy Josh Rodriguez shout out to you want girls talk,

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<v Speaker 7>boys talking a good job? You said some things to

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<v Speaker 7>so sure. Tobert is the guy, and now I get

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<v Speaker 7>he comes up big in spots where you need him.

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<v Speaker 7>I get that. But if there's an opportunity for me

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<v Speaker 7>from from the outside looking, and if there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 7>to have three physical, big bodied wide receivers who can

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<v Speaker 7>get you, yet instead of being blown on and dropped

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<v Speaker 7>at the spot of at the spot where you catch

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<v Speaker 7>the ball, you wouldn't want to take that.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you referring to?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm talking to one Jaalen Tobert and one Jonathan Mingo

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<v Speaker 7>and or Ryan Floordino understood.

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<v Speaker 5>So Toberd is a sure catcher, no question about that. Correct,

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't have any yak yardish, no question about that.

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<v Speaker 5>But you see a problem with that because one of

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<v Speaker 5>the best tight end in Cowboys history had no yak

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<v Speaker 5>yards at all.

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<v Speaker 7>I get that, Bussy, there's something, there's something that Jake

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<v Speaker 7>Ferguson is doing that Jaalen Tobert is not Jake Ferguson. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>going to have all eyes on them. But even when

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<v Speaker 7>CD was out, Ferguson still been catching touchdowns. I mean, now,

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 7>I get it. He had seven touchdowns last year. It's

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<v Speaker 7>to be commended. It's definitely to be commended, especially with

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 7>CD being hurt all year last year no Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's definitely to be commended. But if there's a

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<v Speaker 7>way that we can bolster this room to make it

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<v Speaker 7>even more dangerous than what it is, would you not

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 7>want to would you not want to make that move?

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<v Speaker 7>I'll defer to the to the experts. You've played the game,

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:27.199
<v Speaker 7>You've seen it for yeah, I mean firsthand, So I

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 7>mean just figured out I jump on in a like

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<v Speaker 7>cleared this beef up that we got going on. Appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 7>no problem, no problem, love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got hey always get to hear from you. Fam No.

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<v Speaker 5>So the conversation that we were having on Girls Talk,

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 5>Boys Talk was in reference to the addition potentially of

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 5>a mingo and where Tobert fits in in this offensive scheme,

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:51.479
<v Speaker 5>And what I was informing them was saying that Tolbert

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:55.400
<v Speaker 5>is your sixth best option offensively, So being a he's

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 5>your sixth best option offensively, it's very difficult to get

0:23:59.000 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 5>the ball to everybody.

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 1>So when you have a dominant name the six while

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>we're at it, CD George Ferg Williams Turpin, that's your

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>first five, I would agree. Okay, So Tobert's your sixth

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>best option offensively, very difficult to get to give him

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>the rock. Correct.

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 5>So understanding that you're the sixth best option, your sixth

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 5>best option most likely is going to be a role player,

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 5>meaning that somebody that has get in there due to

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 5>dirty work blocking. Right, you're a big receiver, you block,

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 5>You're not fast, you're not quick, you're not twitchy. You

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 5>make contested catches. That's what he does. You need a

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 5>guy like that who's willing to go in there, who

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 5>is being asked to go in and block? Okay, and

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 5>can make contested catches. You need guys to fulfill those roles.

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 5>So the conversation isn't about is he as explosive as Flinoy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's not not even close to it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the reason why if Flonoid came in a game

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<v Speaker 5>and it handed him the ball, like immediately, here, take

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 5>the ball, You're fast. Okay, same thing they did with Turpin.

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.959
<v Speaker 5>Take the ball, You're fast. There's a role for Tobert

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 5>on this squad. He's not what you anticipated him being,

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.360
<v Speaker 5>but your roster has evolved and players have evolved, right,

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 5>so now he is subjected to being that guy for you,

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 5>and that is okay. That's all I'm saying is okay.

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 5>So I'm not saying him instead of Illinoy. I'm saying

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 5>he does things that Illinoy doesn't do. If Illinoy does

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 5>things that he doesn't do, so you can't cross compare them.

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 5>But the scenario is going to bring out is going

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<v Speaker 5>to require for them to be input it in different situations.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, really quickly, because I know Patrick has a great

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 4>point coming up, but for me, it would be Jonathan

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Mingo all day, every day because of the advantage that

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 4>he gives you from his size. I think the fact

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 4>that he is a big bodied receiver that he does

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 4>have yack ability. I think just as a threat, is

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 4>going to give you more production than a Jalen Tolbert

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 4>if he is able to do the same things that

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Jalen Tolbert is doing.

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Have we seen it?

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 4>We have not seen it yet, but we haven't seen

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 4>much of Jonathan Mingo to be fair much.

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh that was my point is I don't think we've

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 3>seen it from Mingo either. I don't think I can

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<v Speaker 3>practice one thousand percent say Jonathan Mingo is an upgrade

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 3>over Jalen Tolbert. But I want to get the Patrick first,

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 3>just based off yeah, this conversation, I think I'm leaning

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 3>towards Isaiah here, but I want to hear Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let me lead with this. Don't you in

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>your life put Jalen Tolbert and.

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 5>Jason No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. But

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 5>he said, I was referring to the yak ability. Okay,

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 5>like Tolber is going to catch the ball, He's not

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 5>going to create a separation. But somebody's going to be

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.199
<v Speaker 5>on his back because he's not quick. And I hear

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 5>what you're saying, but I'm talking about being okay with

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 5>somebody just catching the ball.

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, like that. That's what you're having to say, not comparing.

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>No heck, no, okay, no, no, no, Yeah, I'm just

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>saying I don't want him. Listen to play with it.

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>W W. You know he's gonna catch the ball. Don't

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>expect him to break a tackle and go take off

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>one time and he did want the same. Yeah, I

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>just want to Yeah. Now that being said, so everything

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you said about Tolbert is it is correct counterpoint for me.

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think, having now finally seen what Ryan Flinoy

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 1>can be, they've given him enough target so he can

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>have a breakout game. And you've seen I think that

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen enough of Mingo, but we have seen

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>enough of Floyd. I think Flinoy is the sixth best

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>option on offense. I think Tobert in the Mingo conversation

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>now becomes behind Ryan Flinoy for me. Interesting, Now you

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>said you know better than most. Okay, it's not simply

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>about the ability to catch, but Flinoy has that right

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not simply about the y act, but Flanoy has

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>that as well. Receivers have to be able to block

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and willing to block. Flinoy has proven more so to me,

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's simple sized willingness, and he has the physical

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>stature and the aggressiveness, the violence to be able to

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>do that. Also, when you look at penalties, let's let's

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>talk everything penalties. Granted, Flinoy doesn't have as many reps

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in the league, so for compare, You're right, it's hard

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>to compare because you could say, well, if you're extrapolate

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>for how many wood Floyd probably have, we're not doing

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.479
<v Speaker 1>all that. You just know that Flinoy didn't have the

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>penalties that For example, as Jaydon bleuw how he feels

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>about that Tobert holding that deleted what would have been

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>his biggest play thus far, you know what I mean.

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Or you go back to Cowboys in Green Bay the line,

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you know the penalty that helped custom that game. So

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Tobert has helped you win games. Talk about the Toad

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>draftswag against the Packer. Packers, well, at least tie that game.

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 3>He helped win the game Pittsburgh last year.

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, so he's helped definitely. Yeah, and he did it

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>with with hurt man parts as he said, So I

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>have a ton of respect for Tobert. So my take

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>on Flinoy being higher on my list of offensive weaponry

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>for Dak Prescott is not a knock to Tobert. It's

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>simply to say that when you factor everything in willingness

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to block, ability to block, lack of penalties, U yak

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>yardage somebody who can attack at the point of the

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>high point and catching traffic and get guys off of

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>him like you're seeing him make guys miss in the

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>open field, but also guys are falling off of him

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>when they get his arms around him. So for me,

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the conversation is rightful with Mingo and Tobert,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>but I think Fanoy, Oh you got a moved up

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that Notoch, So he's the sixth give me the bigger threat. Yeah, yeah.

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 3>I look at this, this skill set or the skill

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 3>position group for the Cowboys as a basketball team and

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 3>a reference here. You got a starting five.

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Of course, your your point guards, Dak Prescott, that's that's

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>your guy.

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Then you've got Pickens, lamb Ferguson, and then Williams. Those

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 3>are your four other guys, and they all play a

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 3>specific role. Some are explosive, all can do their job

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 3>at an extremely high level. That's your starting five, But

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>you're starting five can't play the whole game, right, You're

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to have role players to come off the bench.

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 3>That's where Turpin comes in. That's where Tolbert comes in.

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 3>That's where Flinoy comes in.

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>So the the.

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Knock on Tolbert a lot of it has to do

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 3>with his draft stock and what they expected him to be.

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I think we've seen what Tolbert is and who he

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 3>can be. He can make an impact. He can do

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 3>certain things in this offense that can help you win

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 3>football games. He's done something that Ryan Flanoy hasn't done,

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 3>which is catch touchdown passes. Ryan Flanoy has zero touchdown

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 3>passes in his career. But Ryan Flanoy has done something

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 3>that Jalen Tolbert hasn't done. His explosiveness led to a

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 3>one hundred yard receiving game, whereas Jalen Tolbert has never

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 3>had a one hundred yard receiving game. So it's not

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 3>an either or question unless you're trying to make a

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 3>roster move. And that's where Jonathan Mingo enters the Fold,

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 3>of course, So it's all about what they see in

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 3>their scheme, in their system and how they're going to

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:46.479
<v Speaker 3>employ that plan under their starting five moving forward. Because

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 3>this would be a much heftier conversation if Lamb and

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Pickens were out like we've seen Lamb out this year,

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Pickens stepped up and they just fed him the rock.

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>More and more.

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 3>If Pickens was never in the Fold to start this season,

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 3>it would be a bigger role because you need one

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 3>of those role players to step into a starting role.

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't need that right now, but what you do

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 3>need is to field a capable team around you're starting

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 3>five and give you something that you don't have somewhere aut.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Real quick look at mel ask are we apologizing because

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>flow is better?

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 7>Hell?

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>No, you know who you're asking this though.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 13>This is Flow Hive baby, exactly. We've always been on

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 13>Flo bandwagon and we've had we've had plenty of criticism

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 13>for Jalen Tolbert. But it's an either or question, right.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, look to the future, because I don't

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 4>think you. I mean, look at just simply the contracts

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 4>you have Mingo on contract for at least two more

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 4>years correct, one after this year, one after this year,

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 4>and then you also have Floy with his draft pick.

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 4>So two more years, right, Jalen.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Tolbert's not coming back, probably not.

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 4>So, I mean so at that point, then then there's

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 4>why not incorporate him more into the offense that you're

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 4>to keep running.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Sean hum is going to be here next year. He's here,

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and I know we got get out to the next collar,

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>but but he's here. He's been productive. What you is

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:00.959
<v Speaker 1>he explosive?

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 5>No, And that's why people like the shiny thing in Flinoid.

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 5>He's the shiny thing. He's an explosive player. He can

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 5>you look forward to what he can do when he

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 5>gets the ball in his hands. But the reality is

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 5>Torbert has shown you he consistently that he can get

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 5>the ball in his hands.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 3>When one of those starting five is out, Ryan Flinoy

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 3>is a better fit to fill that role. But when

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 3>they're all together and that starting five is all complete,

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 3>maybe you need a steady.

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Hand in the fold.

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of the thought process there. It's dependent

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 3>on the situation and it's a good problem to have.

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 3>This is a great problem. You got seven capable wide

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 3>receivers and pass catchers or skilled players around Dak Prescott

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 3>that you feel very confident.

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Will you make it inactive? And yeah, I mean he's

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be Foster. But once Mingo gets up to speed,

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and I look forward to seeing him with Dak, because

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that was one thing that I hated last year is

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that you could not gauge Mingo because Cooper Rush has

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>zero connection. Now he couldn't, right, But once Mingo gets

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>up to speed, assuming.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 5>We don't know what he can do, right, we truly

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 5>don't exactly what We truly don't know what I mean, assuming.

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>They Trevor Keagan, just hypothetically, if he goes to ire,

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>assuming they don't wave a receiver, that means you're going

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>super heavy at receiver. Super so somebody's gonna say, yeah,

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>who's going to be an actor?

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 4>All right?

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 3>We got to get to her a second.

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Collegeames, Troy, Troy and Philly. That's a good question to

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Troy and Philly. You're on talking cowboys? What's up Troy?

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 14>Hey my guys, how you guys doing?

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Man?

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 14>Hey, hey man? Well, first of all, Friday's called on

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<v Speaker 14>Friday's Show was special. Josh, keep it coming. I mean

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<v Speaker 14>you know, except for the you know, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 14>ask for it.

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:53.239
<v Speaker 12>Uh.

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<v Speaker 14>As far as where the team is, I'm actually pretty

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 14>good with where the team is three three and one.

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 14>A couple of games ID like to have back, particularly

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 14>to Chicago and Carolina games I'd like to have back.

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<v Speaker 14>But I'm okay with this with where the team is.

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 14>Considering the I believe they have an elite quarterback, weapons

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 14>all around them, good coaching. I'm I'm good with that

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 14>because I believe in in in years past, this team

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 14>has peaked a little too soon or in September, October,

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 14>maybe early November, they go on six seven, eight game

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 14>winning streaks or maybe five and one six on whatever

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 14>it is, and I think they peak a little too

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 14>soon and then sort of limp into the playoffs. So

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 14>as long as this team is a sending, I'm good

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 14>with that. But that's that leads me to my question.

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 14>I wanted to ask you guys, is there a and

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<v Speaker 14>I know you guys can't mention names, but is there

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<v Speaker 14>a Pickens type player out there that maybe a team

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 14>don't want or don't think that they're going to be

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 14>able to sign them, or whatever the case may be.

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 14>On defense, that the general manager, the owner thinks that

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 14>he can believe that he can go out and get

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 14>and get this defense maybe from thirty wherever it is,

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 14>thirty one, thirty two, whatever it is, to that fifteen

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 14>to twenty range, and what position do you think that

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 14>that may that guy may be out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank God, Thanks Troy and Philly for the call.

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<v Speaker 1>Great question.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I know one name what was that we hit on

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 3>this a little bit. Yeah, we talked about it a

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 3>little bit yesterday on whether or not there needs to

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 3>be a move made moving forward. I think there's one

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 3>name that we can talk about because he's a free

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 3>agent that Isaiah has been very adamant on trying to

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 3>go and join forces with. He wants Christian Wilkins.

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>He really Yeah, he's tickled by Christian wilm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the idea certainly has him infatuated whenever it comes

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 3>to putting him on the defensive line. But as far

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 3>as the trade goes, if you're going to get an

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 3>impact player on defense in the middle of a season, it's.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Going to cost you a pretty penny. On cost you little,

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>it's going to cost you lot a lot it's going.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you think, Pat when you look at

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 3>other rosters are around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>There are there are a couple names that we can't say,

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned, we can't. But I've said this on

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.919
<v Speaker 1>the show as recently as a couple weeks ago, when

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe even last week, when you asked me to put

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>on the GM cap, I said I would make a trade.

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I would be willing to part with one of those

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>first round picks that you got in to deal with Micah,

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and I would address the defensive imposition. And I get

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying with the defensive tackle. I'm curious to

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.720
<v Speaker 1>see where perry On Winfrey is in his return behind

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Kenny Clark and trying to boaster that situation. But we'll see.

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I am more confident in the run defense getting back

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to where they need to be than I am with

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the outlook for the past rush. I know what you

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>have with James Houston. Love that. I love that I

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>see Jadavion Clowney finding his groove. I love that I

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>see Dante Fowler getting on the right track and kind

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of getting close to what we know Dante can be.

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 1>But as we have this conversation, am I willing to

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>bet the season on it?

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 7>No?

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I am not, which means I am willing to part

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>ways with one of those picks to go go and

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>get a George Pickens type guy. And there's one in

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>my in my mind right now. I can't see his name,

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>but ye, the guy's quite a tiger. Yeah understood.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 5>There are some solid D linemen on some teams that

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 5>suck right now, some solid interior D linemen. I would

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 5>like to have a defensive end to go out there

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 5>and get some pressure. But the reality is, if you

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 5>can stop a team from running the ball, you can

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 5>elicit pressure.

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Right last week, Yeah, so I would love to go

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>get the free agent, the tickler a law or I

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>sure can. I would love to go get him.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.959
<v Speaker 5>Or I would like to grab one of these guys

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 5>from from one of these teams that.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Just are terrible and they're going nowhere right now. And

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee Titans have have some big fellas, some big fellas

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>up front that are big time run stoppers, and I

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.879
<v Speaker 1>think that they are most likely exploring all options.

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 3>That are on the table, so you're not looking at

0:37:58.400 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 3>pass rush to bolster.

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I would much rather put it like this. If Clark

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>gets hurt, what do you what do you mean? That

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>would be rough. That's why I say, yeah, I mean

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 1>you saw that on Sunday. Came out of the game. Great,

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>thank god you went back in.

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 4>But it's like, if that is not indicative of a

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 4>winning series.

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 1>That's what he's out because he is such.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 4>A crucial element to that defense.

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Creded for him for.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 5>That hope, that flash in front of all the decision

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 5>maker's eyes like, oh he's down, Like he very easily

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 5>could have torn his whole el ball off on that

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 5>play and you would have been sitting up there like,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, Mizzie, let's go.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say if if, if that's what you're going

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to do, I'm with you on I don't know if

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on on the who. But that's a

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>free agency thing that I would do, Like because you've

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.919
<v Speaker 1>already traded to acquire a guy Kenny Clark right there.

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trading to acquire another guy. Why there? I

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>just you have the depth there?

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 7>Are you?

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Are you comfortable with the depth there?

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 7>No?

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 1>So why wouldn't you. I'm good with the free agent?

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you good with Mizzi Smith? Are you good with Joy?

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Right now? You're not good with either one of them?

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying, that's that's that's I also said, I

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>need to know where Perryon is in his recovery. I

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>need to know. But is he a dominant I don't know.

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So I'm saying dominant.

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 5>If you can have two surf dominant interior defensive line

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 5>run stoppers and not even talking about I'm talking about

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 5>two interior big fellas, you're not running the ball in here.

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 5>You change the entire dynamic of your defense, especially when

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 5>you have linebackers that are most likely undersized, considered to

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 5>be undersized, that fly around and hit. If you can

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 5>free up those linebackers to run and hit, and then

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 5>you can go out there and press man with your

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 5>utopia of defensive backs that you have right with Revel

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 5>and dB and Diggs. If that's your what you're trying

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 5>to get to stop the run forces cast to pass.

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I will get some pressure. I'll send one additional linebacker.

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.919
<v Speaker 5>I'll send Leah Foil, I'll send Overshown, I'll send Shamar James,

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 5>I'll send whoever to get some more pressure.

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh, just like you just saw this past week. But listen, schematically,

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I have one percent agree with you. How we get

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.320
<v Speaker 1>there is where we're not on the same page. Example,

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>So what you're wanting is a one tech situation that

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>mirrors to three tech situation you have. Osa, You have

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Sally Sally, Osa Sal Sally Sally was a free agency

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and he's older. That's fair. I'm simply saying that you

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>could solve this in free agency and I will be

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable with it. And honestly, if you not, I'm

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>not out on Wilkins. But if you're coming to me

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and you're saying, would you rather trade to acquire someone

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>behind Kenny Clark or would you rather go with Wilkins,

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>then I would rather go.

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 5>I don't think that Wilkins is healthy. Otherwise he would

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 5>have been gone by now, right, So I don't think

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 5>he's healthy. But I, or you can tell HI might

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 5>be the other thing, if you can tell me if

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 5>that's too But if you could tell me that I

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 5>could put somebody next to Kenny Clark that's going to

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 5>demand the respect of the opposing offensive.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Line, man, give me that dude.

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Give me like this dude in the one technique, this

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 5>dude in the three technique. We can't move these guys.

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>We can't.

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, Osa, Osa, go do what you do Solomon cool? Right,

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 5>and then young fellas y'all sprinkling there as well. Right,

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 5>But like being able to put two guys on the

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 5>inside between the guard and the center is saying yeah, nah,

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 5>not in here, player, Like that changes absolutely if you're

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 5>playing Madden, that changes anything you like.

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But I'm going outside. I mean, let me ask you

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a question there, Alan Kine combos what you're talking about, Yeah,

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>washing it in which you did not want to run straight?

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Josh is gonna ask this question, and then we got

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 3>to go to break.

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Just really quickly.

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 4>I feel like if you bring in a pass rusher

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 4>as opposed to a defensive tackle, I think that is

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 4>going to improve the play of oh So Diggiz. I

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 4>really think he benefited obviously he benefited from the pass

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.879
<v Speaker 4>rusher of Michael Parsons when Michael Parsons was here. If

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 4>you bring in a guy that is able to give

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 4>you an upgrade of what you currently over what you

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 4>currently have in Sam Williams, please you know what I mean,

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 4>I think you need to do that. I think that's

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 4>the move that I would make currently. But I also

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 4>just beef up the defensive line.

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 4>In any way, whether it's an end whether it's interior.

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Fine with that interior.

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with the interior being an important part

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 3>of this whole puzzle in how it is. But would

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.280
<v Speaker 3>you say this year twenty twenty five is the best

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:59.280
<v Speaker 3>interior defensive line play the Cowboys have had in Tayta

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 3>for sure pushing over days, Yeah, absolutely and totally I

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:06.240
<v Speaker 3>completely agree. But if you're gonna spend high draft capital

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 3>to do something, even with the best interior defensive line

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 3>play that we've had in ten years in the Cowboys organization,

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 3>you've had one of the worst.

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Pass rushes we've there.

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 3>That's in the same time, you.

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Can even with one play exactly.

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Let's just agree. If you want to sure up the

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 3>depth of your defensive tackle room, sure, fine, go make

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 3>it happen. Just don't spend first round draft picks to

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 3>go get somebody.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 5>I did say, Yeah, I'm gonna s saying first round

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:31.919
<v Speaker 5>because I don't know who you would trade a first

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:33.280
<v Speaker 5>interior d lineman.

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>But I know we gotta go. But I.

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 5>You have to be dominant somewhere. Yeah, you can't just

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 5>be across the board. So if you're close, if you

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 5>think that you're closest to being dominant on an interior,

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 5>then become dominant.

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, all right.

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Taking our second break, Mike and New York will get

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 3>to you quickly on the other side right after this

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<v Speaker 3>with more talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going. You see that Cowboys game? Oh? I watched.

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<v Speaker 11>I've been seeing some good things totally. They have some talent.

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<v Speaker 11>You have some great talent, and they got some fight.

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<v Speaker 11>Hoping this is the year me too. Oh, I'm Cody.

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<v Speaker 11>By the way, I'm Travis.

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<v Speaker 3>You're on Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>What a big fight?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, what's going on? Guys? I want to say the

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<v Speaker 8>biggest improvement I think for the Cowboys is obviously our defense.

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<v Speaker 8>Hopefully we can just keep it up. I just you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like, you know, we get certain guys back

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<v Speaker 8>over here back in a couple of weeks. It's just

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<v Speaker 8>I want to just I want to see us be

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<v Speaker 8>consistent on defense. It's you know, we talk about it

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<v Speaker 8>all the times. That's that's that's my biggest takeaway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, gotta be better on the defensive side. And we

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<v Speaker 3>saw a step in the right direction, uh, coming up

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<v Speaker 3>this past Sunday. That's the biggest thing. And that's part

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<v Speaker 3>of what our debate was in the last segment, it

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<v Speaker 3>was you were trying to beef up this defense enough

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<v Speaker 3>to keep the moment and rolling in the right direction

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<v Speaker 3>because your offense is elite. We've had that whole debate

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<v Speaker 3>for a week now on this show, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing why that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>What do your linebackers do best? Run a hit down

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<v Speaker 1>heroside down downhill? You think so? You think you're your

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<v Speaker 1>entire linebacker corps. No, not an entire I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>entire linebacker corps demo as well. Yeah, okay, sideline the sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>right demo, certainly demo dem it's sidelined a sideline. But

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<v Speaker 1>they are very different players. Mars, would you consider him

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<v Speaker 1>down sideline the sideline?

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<v Speaker 3>Kenneth Murray absolutely not, Jack Sanborn absolutely not. Marius Leah

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<v Speaker 3>foul and Demarvi and Overshown who are right now have

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<v Speaker 3>been either off the field entirely or not on the

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<v Speaker 3>field at all. A ton in marrisle the guys you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't been playing their sideline the sideline.

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<v Speaker 5>So the guys that have been playing, so talking about

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<v Speaker 5>a better down, so talking about potential additions for your

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<v Speaker 5>future moves because games that are coming up as your future, right,

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<v Speaker 5>So are we are we talking about what has been

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<v Speaker 5>on the field in Sanborn? Are we going to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about what is going to be on the field, which

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<v Speaker 5>is who they're going to put.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to look at Shamar because you know like

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting tackling machine. Yeah, he's a tackling machine all over.

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<v Speaker 3>So if that Sanbourne, if you have the linebacker, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>If your linebackers can run and hit, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas's linebackers do, right, your chances of you out running

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<v Speaker 1>them sideline the sideline is slimming none correct.

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<v Speaker 5>Put the big boys up front, go get it, Go

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<v Speaker 5>get a big boy so that they teams have to

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<v Speaker 5>I just run sideline the sideline. The chances it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>fix your pastors, but you can get pressure by by

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<v Speaker 5>sending blizzes.

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<v Speaker 1>If your goal.

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<v Speaker 5>If you stop the run and now teams have to pass,

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<v Speaker 5>and you have corners that you think now or that

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<v Speaker 5>you've seen can play man the man defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have an extra guid to go send to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But they are two to Coll's point, there are two,

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<v Speaker 1>including the return of Demo. There are two linebackers in

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<v Speaker 1>this depth dart that you cannot outrun sideline. The sideline

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<v Speaker 1>it's demo and that's Marist. Okay, Shamar, maybe like Spades,

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<v Speaker 1>it's impossible. Maybe you can't outrun Shamar because he's a

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<v Speaker 1>tackling machine. You can probably outrun Murray. You can outrun

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<v Speaker 1>Sandborn once you get is not gonna be on the field. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying because you're like, do you have linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>that he can But what I'm saying, but with this

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<v Speaker 1>defense you're playing how many linebackers two? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, big boyfriend, I still think you need to up

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<v Speaker 3>your pass rush. I'm okay with depth.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no team that's gonna give up their number one

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<v Speaker 5>pass right, nobody's giving up their number one pass rusher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're probably right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not you're gonna pay, You're gonna break the bank

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<v Speaker 3>to go do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams will give up their interior d line.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, all right, we've got to go here on talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna preview a little QB

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<v Speaker 3>vision the Cowboys offense against that upcoming defense in the

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<v Speaker 3>Denver Broncos.

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<v Speaker 1>That defense is nasty coming up there.

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<v Speaker 3>They lost one they did, they certainly will tomorrow on

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday with the Talking Cowboys crew Patrick no C Walkers, Roderriguez,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Will see tomorrow.

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