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Speaker 1: Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live.

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Speaker 3: From the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at.

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Speaker 1: The Star in Frisco. Tech Boarders Here. That's got kick takestown.

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Speaker 2: And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: It's a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by

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Speaker 3: Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 3: in the s w b C Studios. Welcome in, everybody.

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Speaker 3: We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you

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Speaker 3: to rock today with Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback,

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Speaker 3: Chris Beam in the back.

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Speaker 1: I'm kin Yeoman's so glad you're with us. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight eight eight eight five five two two

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Speaker 1: nine seven. Do not waste any time.

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Speaker 4: Say it got me now, it's officially it's talking to you.

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Speaker 3: It's officially Talking Tuesday eight nine seven.

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Speaker 1: Family, Family, Family, fandomily, famominily. Yeah, there there is hope

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Speaker 1: in this world. Oh yeah, you guys are for those

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Speaker 1: visuals that are watching visually. You guys. See this paper

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Speaker 1: airplane right here that I made out of a American

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Speaker 1: dollar bill in the middle of the show yesterday. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this US currency right here.

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Speaker 5: I we put we put this out there, and we

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Speaker 5: left it on the table when we didn't We did

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Speaker 5: not have a lot of faith it was gonna it

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Speaker 5: was going to exist and still be here today.

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Speaker 1: Who thought it was gonna be here today? Nobody?

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Speaker 6: I do it?

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Speaker 1: No way, did you guys? I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: guys did or not.

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Speaker 5: But guess what, I have to go fingerprint this because

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Speaker 5: I want to know exactly who picked it, who picked

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Speaker 5: it up, who looked at it? And I believe that

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Speaker 5: one Derk Eagleton could not pass up the opportunity to

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Speaker 5: pick up this dollar.

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Speaker 1: Bill and look around. The accusation has seen anybody was

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Speaker 1: gonna see him. The accusation has been Levy would Dusties

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Speaker 1: and I will come back with the report.

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Speaker 3: All right, Derek, you get your forensics files on always

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Speaker 3: breaker on notice.

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Speaker 1: Derek, you've got twenty four hours to respond. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're still there, They're still there.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna leave it there today and see if

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Speaker 3: it stays another day?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: I don't have that much faith that's going yeah, and

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Speaker 1: now you're just tempting fit.

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Speaker 3: I have to say, our family is gonna have to

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Speaker 3: pick up Isaiah standback. Today his Seattle Mariners let it

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Speaker 3: slip in the bottom of the seventh inning to the

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Speaker 1: Sorry, buddy, bro, we were freaking nine outs. You were

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Speaker 1: so head nine outs.

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Speaker 5: Bro, We were pitchers were doing good, defense was playing well,

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Speaker 5: offense stepped up. Just just maintain the lead, you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Just maintain the lead if they if

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Speaker 5: they get a base hit. H you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: But like, we don't give gifts. That was like King

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Speaker 5: Si snicker bar on the freaking porch for for for Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't leave that in the hood. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: You leave kings I Snickers on the porch in the

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Speaker 5: hood and put it says take one.

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Speaker 1: You know what they're gonna do. They're taking a whole bowl.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened yesterday. It took the whole bowl yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Somebody put a Snickers out there and said, just take one.

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Speaker 8: Huh.

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Speaker 5: You guys have a two point lead, a two run league,

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Speaker 5: Just take one and go on.

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Speaker 1: About your business, bud, and they said, Nah. Springer was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking a whole bowl with me, buddy. I'm heartbroken.

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Speaker 3: I'm heartbroken for you, not only because yea friends the Mariners.

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Speaker 3: Well not well, there's that.

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Speaker 1: We still remain the only team, only team.

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Speaker 3: That has never made it to the World Series and.

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Speaker 1: A team. I'm sorry, but you're right.

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Speaker 3: The guys that I know, Julio Roderiguez HiT's a bomb,

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Speaker 5: Him for taking a swing on that last pitch. It

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Speaker 3: In the minor league team. He never actually played for

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry, but that's it for Baseball talk. Let's

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Speaker 1: go Dodgers News and Notes America. Yeah, that's true, Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. It's Kendrick versus Drake All over all

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I can go for the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what news and notes, Patrick knows

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Speaker 1: he walk away. Hey man. So let's start with a

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Speaker 1: little bit of bad news, which is that Trevon Diggs

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Speaker 1: Diggs did come to the building yesterday to try to

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Speaker 1: know what, you still don't look quite great, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Ah nah, So they sent him home. So they sent

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Speaker 1: him home. So we'll see how that goes this week. Now,

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Speaker 1: would you like some good news? I would would you

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Speaker 1: like some great Oh? I got some great news? All right.

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Speaker 1: So Cowboys are actually obviously they have several on IR

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Speaker 1: but headline bean Agent zero will return to practice on

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Speaker 1: tomorrow over shown, we'll have his twenty one day practice

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Speaker 1: window activated effective tomorrow. Window is Yeah, I need you

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Speaker 1: to He tweeted it this way like I was gonna

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Speaker 1: sell Reddy moss us to know about the horizontal Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did tweet it after the show yesterday. Of

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Speaker 3: course it wasn't in the show of course always after

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Speaker 3: T minus twenty one. He did love it and he's

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Speaker 1: actually actually not true. They're gonna wait until Wednesday because

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Speaker 1: Because I know there are some people asking me, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Pat, is it twenty one practices? Is it

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Speaker 1: Cowboys activating him, oh, not activating him, but bringing him

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Speaker 1: have until I believe right after the bio, so November

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Speaker 1: So they do get the bye week of not you know,

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Speaker 1: would you like more? Great news?

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Speaker 4: That would put him on pace for the Raiders, right,

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Speaker 4: which is right before the Eagles game.

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Speaker 1: Now that's right before the Eagles. You're right, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Raiders game would be awesome. Yeah, that means that morrownover

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Speaker 1: shown has a great chance of being on the field

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders, which gives him a good shot at

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Speaker 1: ramping up for a very very important division matchup against

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles when they come to Armington. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: So would you say it's good to bet on the

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Speaker 3: Marvin Overshow being in Vegas?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Actually, we don't bet on this show. We don't, gentlemen, gentleman,

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Speaker 1: that's a good gamble, Not that, gentle gentleman. But I

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Speaker 1: love it. Kyle spoke with Demo yesterday, said he's excited.

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Speaker 1: I've had endless conversation with Demo just throughout the process

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Speaker 1: of the recovery, and at every single point he's just

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Speaker 1: been positive and just grinding, and he's never you would

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Speaker 1: never be able to tell that this is a young

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Speaker 1: man or a grown man who has been through not

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Speaker 1: just one devastating knee injury, but to like hand one

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Speaker 1: back in college is just a ball of positivity and

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Speaker 1: he's coming back to give Kyle and Isaiah and Josh

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Speaker 1: and myself exactly what we want, which is that vocal leader.

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Speaker 1: Was there anybody else's window? Yeah, but that's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Would you like some more greade? Please? It's not as

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Speaker 1: it's not as uh excelsior as the demo news, but

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Speaker 1: it's still big news. Savone Revel, rookie third round pick,

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Speaker 1: will be at practice on Wednesday. Quarterback hold on, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: hold on holding Savone revels back. He's back on for

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Speaker 1: is it it's here? He's here, He's back for Savone

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Speaker 1: Revel is here, Chris. If I may, you may, I

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Speaker 1: like those words? You may save old Rebel. He will

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Speaker 1: have his towards you. One day practice window activated as well.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one suffered to torn acl East Carolina in September

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Speaker 1: is ready. Talked to him yesterday. He's in good spirits,

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Speaker 1: great spirits. Actually, he's been in great spirits this entire time.

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Speaker 1: it is. He said, his knee feels great, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: what set back? Those are two dogs that are coming back.

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Speaker 3: One is the Marvin Overshon and of course we've had

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Speaker 3: that conversation already and what he could bring as a linebacker,

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Speaker 3: but savone rebel was a first round caliber corner yep.

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Speaker 3: And if he's one hundred percent or even close to

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent, he's going to be a massive uptick

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Speaker 1: Delicious.

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Speaker 3: Those are two position groups that need reinforce and they're

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Speaker 1: Would you like another dog there? Would you like more

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Speaker 1: great news? Well, it's more great, there's no way there is.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the offensive side of the ball. Would

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Speaker 1: you like would you like to give more to this

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Speaker 1: very wealthy offense? Please? Starting center Cooper Bby. Oh, we'll

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Speaker 1: also see his twenty one day practice window Actors twenty

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Speaker 1: one one. Cooper Baby he is uh, he would be

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Speaker 3: So is this just like the third rounder enforcement party

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Speaker 3: you got? And then Cooper Bby. It's just all these

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Speaker 3: third rounders coming out of the smoke like like an

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Speaker 4: Like the worst of edgers you can They're ready to

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Speaker 4: make it all happen.

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Speaker 1: But hey, we're top one hundred picks. We make this happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm cool with its good. That's awesome. So you get

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Speaker 1: you got you got your starting starting right guard back,

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Speaker 1: Instinctively. I don't see it being an easy road back

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Speaker 7: boys talking a good job? You said some things to

439
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Speaker 7: kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Man, I'm not

440
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Speaker 7: so sure. Tobert is the guy, and now I get

441
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Speaker 7: he comes up big in spots where you need him.

442
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Speaker 7: I get that. But if there's an opportunity for me

443
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Speaker 7: from from the outside looking, and if there's an opportunity

444
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Speaker 7: to have three physical, big bodied wide receivers who can

445
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Speaker 7: get you, yet instead of being blown on and dropped

446
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Speaker 7: at the spot of at the spot where you catch

447
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Speaker 7: the ball, you wouldn't want to take that.

448
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Speaker 1: Who are you referring to?

449
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Speaker 7: I'm talking to one Jaalen Tobert and one Jonathan Mingo

450
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Speaker 7: and or Ryan Floordino understood.

451
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Speaker 5: So Toberd is a sure catcher, no question about that. Correct,

452
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Speaker 5: he doesn't have any yak yardish, no question about that.

453
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Speaker 5: But you see a problem with that because one of

454
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Speaker 5: the best tight end in Cowboys history had no yak

455
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Speaker 5: yards at all.

456
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Speaker 7: I get that, Bussy, there's something, there's something that Jake

457
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Speaker 7: Ferguson is doing that Jaalen Tobert is not Jake Ferguson. Now,

458
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Speaker 7: granted you have you have Pickens and CD, so everybody's

459
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Speaker 7: going to have all eyes on them. But even when

460
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Speaker 7: CD was out, Ferguson still been catching touchdowns. I mean, now,

461
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Speaker 7: I get it. He had seven touchdowns last year. It's

462
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Speaker 7: to be commended. It's definitely to be commended, especially with

463
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Speaker 7: CD being hurt all year last year no Dak Prescott.

464
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Speaker 7: So it's definitely to be commended. But if there's a

465
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Speaker 7: way that we can bolster this room to make it

466
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Speaker 7: even more dangerous than what it is, would you not

467
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Speaker 7: want to would you not want to make that move?

468
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Speaker 7: I'll defer to the to the experts. You've played the game,

469
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Speaker 7: You've seen it for yeah, I mean firsthand, So I

470
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Speaker 7: mean just figured out I jump on in a like

471
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Speaker 7: cleared this beef up that we got going on. Appreciate you,

472
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Speaker 7: no problem, no problem, love you.

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Speaker 1: Got hey always get to hear from you. Fam No.

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Speaker 5: So the conversation that we were having on Girls Talk,

475
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Speaker 5: Boys Talk was in reference to the addition potentially of

476
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Speaker 5: a mingo and where Tobert fits in in this offensive scheme,

477
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Speaker 5: And what I was informing them was saying that Tolbert

478
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Speaker 5: is your sixth best option offensively, So being a he's

479
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Speaker 5: your sixth best option offensively, it's very difficult to get

480
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Speaker 5: the ball to everybody.

481
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Speaker 1: So when you have a dominant name the six while

482
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Speaker 1: we're at it, CD George Ferg Williams Turpin, that's your

483
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Speaker 1: first five, I would agree. Okay, So Tobert's your sixth

484
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Speaker 1: best option offensively, very difficult to get to give him

485
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Speaker 1: the rock. Correct.

486
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Speaker 5: So understanding that you're the sixth best option, your sixth

487
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Speaker 5: best option most likely is going to be a role player,

488
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Speaker 5: meaning that somebody that has get in there due to

489
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Speaker 5: dirty work blocking. Right, you're a big receiver, you block,

490
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Speaker 5: You're not fast, you're not quick, you're not twitchy. You

491
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Speaker 5: make contested catches. That's what he does. You need a

492
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Speaker 5: guy like that who's willing to go in there, who

493
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Speaker 5: is being asked to go in and block? Okay, and

494
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Speaker 5: can make contested catches. You need guys to fulfill those roles.

495
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Speaker 5: So the conversation isn't about is he as explosive as Flinoy.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not not even close to it.

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Speaker 5: That's the reason why if Flonoid came in a game

498
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Speaker 5: and it handed him the ball, like immediately, here, take

499
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Speaker 5: the ball, You're fast. Okay, same thing they did with Turpin.

500
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Speaker 5: Take the ball, You're fast. There's a role for Tobert

501
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Speaker 5: on this squad. He's not what you anticipated him being,

502
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 5: but your roster has evolved and players have evolved, right,

503
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Speaker 5: so now he is subjected to being that guy for you,

504
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Speaker 5: and that is okay. That's all I'm saying is okay.

505
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Speaker 5: So I'm not saying him instead of Illinoy. I'm saying

506
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Speaker 5: he does things that Illinoy doesn't do. If Illinoy does

507
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Speaker 5: things that he doesn't do, so you can't cross compare them.

508
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Speaker 5: But the scenario is going to bring out is going

509
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Speaker 5: to require for them to be input it in different situations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really quickly, because I know Patrick has a great

511
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Speaker 4: point coming up, but for me, it would be Jonathan

512
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Speaker 4: Mingo all day, every day because of the advantage that

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Speaker 4: he gives you from his size. I think the fact

514
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Speaker 4: that he is a big bodied receiver that he does

515
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Speaker 4: have yack ability. I think just as a threat, is

516
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Speaker 4: going to give you more production than a Jalen Tolbert

517
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Speaker 4: if he is able to do the same things that

518
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Speaker 4: Jalen Tolbert is doing.

519
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Speaker 1: Have we seen it?

520
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Speaker 4: We have not seen it yet, but we haven't seen

521
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Speaker 4: much of Jonathan Mingo to be fair much.

522
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Speaker 3: Oh that was my point is I don't think we've

523
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Speaker 3: seen it from Mingo either. I don't think I can

524
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Speaker 3: practice one thousand percent say Jonathan Mingo is an upgrade

525
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Speaker 3: over Jalen Tolbert. But I want to get the Patrick first,

526
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Speaker 3: just based off yeah, this conversation, I think I'm leaning

527
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Speaker 3: towards Isaiah here, but I want to hear Patrick.

528
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let me lead with this. Don't you in

529
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Speaker 1: your life put Jalen Tolbert and.

530
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Speaker 5: Jason No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. But

531
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Speaker 5: he said, I was referring to the yak ability. Okay,

532
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Speaker 5: like Tolber is going to catch the ball, He's not

533
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Speaker 5: going to create a separation. But somebody's going to be

534
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Speaker 5: on his back because he's not quick. And I hear

535
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Speaker 5: what you're saying, but I'm talking about being okay with

536
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Speaker 5: somebody just catching the ball.

537
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Speaker 1: Okay, like that. That's what you're having to say, not comparing.

538
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Speaker 1: No heck, no, okay, no, no, no, Yeah, I'm just

539
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Speaker 1: saying I don't want him. Listen to play with it.

540
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: W W. You know he's gonna catch the ball. Don't

541
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Speaker 1: expect him to break a tackle and go take off

542
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Speaker 1: one time and he did want the same. Yeah, I

543
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Speaker 1: just want to Yeah. Now that being said, so everything

544
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Speaker 1: you said about Tolbert is it is correct counterpoint for me.

545
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Speaker 1: I don't think, having now finally seen what Ryan Flinoy

546
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Speaker 1: can be, they've given him enough target so he can

547
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Speaker 1: have a breakout game. And you've seen I think that

548
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: we haven't seen enough of Mingo, but we have seen

549
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: enough of Floyd. I think Flinoy is the sixth best

550
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Speaker 1: option on offense. I think Tobert in the Mingo conversation

551
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: now becomes behind Ryan Flinoy for me. Interesting, Now you

552
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Speaker 1: said you know better than most. Okay, it's not simply

553
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: about the ability to catch, but Flinoy has that right

554
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: It's not simply about the y act, but Flanoy has

555
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: that as well. Receivers have to be able to block

556
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: and willing to block. Flinoy has proven more so to me,

557
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: and that's simple sized willingness, and he has the physical

558
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: stature and the aggressiveness, the violence to be able to

559
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: do that. Also, when you look at penalties, let's let's

560
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: talk everything penalties. Granted, Flinoy doesn't have as many reps

561
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Speaker 1: in the league, so for compare, You're right, it's hard

562
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Speaker 1: to compare because you could say, well, if you're extrapolate

563
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: for how many wood Floyd probably have, we're not doing

564
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: all that. You just know that Flinoy didn't have the

565
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: penalties that For example, as Jaydon bleuw how he feels

566
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: about that Tobert holding that deleted what would have been

567
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: his biggest play thus far, you know what I mean.

568
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Or you go back to Cowboys in Green Bay the line,

569
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: you know the penalty that helped custom that game. So

570
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: Tobert has helped you win games. Talk about the Toad

571
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: draftswag against the Packer. Packers, well, at least tie that game.

572
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: He helped win the game Pittsburgh last year.

573
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so he's helped definitely. Yeah, and he did it

574
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: with with hurt man parts as he said, So I

575
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: have a ton of respect for Tobert. So my take

576
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Speaker 1: on Flinoy being higher on my list of offensive weaponry

577
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott is not a knock to Tobert. It's

578
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: simply to say that when you factor everything in willingness

579
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Speaker 1: to block, ability to block, lack of penalties, U yak

580
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: yardage somebody who can attack at the point of the

581
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: high point and catching traffic and get guys off of

582
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: him like you're seeing him make guys miss in the

583
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: open field, but also guys are falling off of him

584
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Speaker 1: when they get his arms around him. So for me,

585
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: I think the conversation is rightful with Mingo and Tobert,

586
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: but I think Fanoy, Oh you got a moved up

587
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: that Notoch, So he's the sixth give me the bigger threat. Yeah, yeah.

588
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: I look at this, this skill set or the skill

589
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: position group for the Cowboys as a basketball team and

590
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: a reference here. You got a starting five.

591
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Speaker 1: Of course, your your point guards, Dak Prescott, that's that's

592
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: your guy.

593
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: Then you've got Pickens, lamb Ferguson, and then Williams. Those

594
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: are your four other guys, and they all play a

595
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: specific role. Some are explosive, all can do their job

596
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: at an extremely high level. That's your starting five, But

597
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: you're starting five can't play the whole game, right, You're

598
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: gonna have to have role players to come off the bench.

599
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: That's where Turpin comes in. That's where Tolbert comes in.

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Speaker 3: That's where Flinoy comes in.

601
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Speaker 1: So the the.

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Speaker 3: Knock on Tolbert a lot of it has to do

603
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: with his draft stock and what they expected him to be.

604
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Speaker 3: I think we've seen what Tolbert is and who he

605
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: can be. He can make an impact. He can do

606
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: certain things in this offense that can help you win

607
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: football games. He's done something that Ryan Flanoy hasn't done,

608
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: which is catch touchdown passes. Ryan Flanoy has zero touchdown

609
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: passes in his career. But Ryan Flanoy has done something

610
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Speaker 3: that Jalen Tolbert hasn't done. His explosiveness led to a

611
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: one hundred yard receiving game, whereas Jalen Tolbert has never

612
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: had a one hundred yard receiving game. So it's not

613
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Speaker 3: an either or question unless you're trying to make a

614
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Speaker 3: roster move. And that's where Jonathan Mingo enters the Fold,

615
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: of course, So it's all about what they see in

616
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Speaker 3: their scheme, in their system and how they're going to

617
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Speaker 3: employ that plan under their starting five moving forward. Because

618
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Speaker 3: this would be a much heftier conversation if Lamb and

619
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Speaker 3: Pickens were out like we've seen Lamb out this year,

620
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Speaker 3: Pickens stepped up and they just fed him the rock.

621
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Speaker 1: More and more.

622
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Speaker 3: If Pickens was never in the Fold to start this season,

623
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Speaker 3: it would be a bigger role because you need one

624
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: of those role players to step into a starting role.

625
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: You don't need that right now, but what you do

626
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: need is to field a capable team around you're starting

627
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: five and give you something that you don't have somewhere aut.

628
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Speaker 1: Real quick look at mel ask are we apologizing because

629
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: flow is better?

630
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Speaker 7: Hell?

631
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Speaker 1: No, you know who you're asking this though.

632
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Speaker 13: This is Flow Hive baby, exactly. We've always been on

633
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 13: Flo bandwagon and we've had we've had plenty of criticism

634
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 13: for Jalen Tolbert. But it's an either or question, right.

635
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Speaker 4: But I mean, look to the future, because I don't

636
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Speaker 4: think you. I mean, look at just simply the contracts

637
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: you have Mingo on contract for at least two more

638
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: years correct, one after this year, one after this year,

639
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: and then you also have Floy with his draft pick.

640
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Speaker 4: So two more years, right, Jalen.

641
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Speaker 1: Tolbert's not coming back, probably not.

642
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Speaker 4: So, I mean so at that point, then then there's

643
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Speaker 4: why not incorporate him more into the offense that you're

644
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: to keep running.

645
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Speaker 1: Sean hum is going to be here next year. He's here,

646
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Speaker 1: and I know we got get out to the next collar,

647
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: but but he's here. He's been productive. What you is

648
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: he explosive?

649
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 5: No, And that's why people like the shiny thing in Flinoid.

650
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 5: He's the shiny thing. He's an explosive player. He can

651
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Speaker 5: you look forward to what he can do when he

652
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Speaker 5: gets the ball in his hands. But the reality is

653
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Speaker 5: Torbert has shown you he consistently that he can get

654
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Speaker 5: the ball in his hands.

655
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Speaker 3: When one of those starting five is out, Ryan Flinoy

656
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: is a better fit to fill that role. But when

657
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Speaker 3: they're all together and that starting five is all complete,

658
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: maybe you need a steady.

659
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Speaker 1: Hand in the fold.

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of the thought process there. It's dependent

661
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Speaker 3: on the situation and it's a good problem to have.

662
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Speaker 3: This is a great problem. You got seven capable wide

663
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Speaker 3: receivers and pass catchers or skilled players around Dak Prescott

664
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Speaker 3: that you feel very confident.

665
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Speaker 1: Will you make it inactive? And yeah, I mean he's

666
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Speaker 1: going to be Foster. But once Mingo gets up to speed,

667
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Speaker 1: and I look forward to seeing him with Dak, because

668
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Speaker 1: that was one thing that I hated last year is

669
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Speaker 1: that you could not gauge Mingo because Cooper Rush has

670
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: zero connection. Now he couldn't, right, But once Mingo gets

671
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Speaker 1: up to speed, assuming.

672
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Speaker 5: We don't know what he can do, right, we truly

673
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Speaker 5: don't exactly what We truly don't know what I mean, assuming.

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Speaker 1: They Trevor Keagan, just hypothetically, if he goes to ire,

675
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Speaker 1: assuming they don't wave a receiver, that means you're going

676
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Speaker 1: super heavy at receiver. Super so somebody's gonna say, yeah,

677
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Speaker 1: who's going to be an actor?

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Speaker 4: All right?

679
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: We got to get to her a second.

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Speaker 1: Collegeames, Troy, Troy and Philly. That's a good question to

681
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Speaker 1: Troy and Philly. You're on talking cowboys? What's up Troy?

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Speaker 14: Hey my guys, how you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 14: Hey, hey man? Well, first of all, Friday's called on

685
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Speaker 14: Friday's Show was special. Josh, keep it coming. I mean

686
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Speaker 14: you know, except for the you know, no, no, you

687
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Speaker 14: ask for it.

688
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 14: As far as where the team is, I'm actually pretty

690
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Speaker 14: good with where the team is three three and one.

691
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Speaker 14: A couple of games ID like to have back, particularly

692
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Speaker 14: to Chicago and Carolina games I'd like to have back.

693
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Speaker 14: But I'm okay with this with where the team is.

694
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Speaker 14: Considering the I believe they have an elite quarterback, weapons

695
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 14: all around them, good coaching. I'm I'm good with that

696
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 14: because I believe in in in years past, this team

697
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 14: has peaked a little too soon or in September, October,

698
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Speaker 14: maybe early November, they go on six seven, eight game

699
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 14: winning streaks or maybe five and one six on whatever

700
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Speaker 14: it is, and I think they peak a little too

701
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 14: soon and then sort of limp into the playoffs. So

702
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Speaker 14: as long as this team is a sending, I'm good

703
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 14: with that. But that's that leads me to my question.

704
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Speaker 14: I wanted to ask you guys, is there a and

705
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Speaker 14: I know you guys can't mention names, but is there

706
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Speaker 14: a Pickens type player out there that maybe a team

707
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Speaker 14: don't want or don't think that they're going to be

708
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 14: able to sign them, or whatever the case may be.

709
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Speaker 14: On defense, that the general manager, the owner thinks that

710
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Speaker 14: he can believe that he can go out and get

711
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Speaker 14: and get this defense maybe from thirty wherever it is,

712
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Speaker 14: thirty one, thirty two, whatever it is, to that fifteen

713
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Speaker 14: to twenty range, and what position do you think that

714
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Speaker 14: that may that guy may be out there?

715
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Speaker 3: Thank God, Thanks Troy and Philly for the call.

716
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Speaker 1: Great question.

717
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Speaker 3: I know one name what was that we hit on

718
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Speaker 3: this a little bit. Yeah, we talked about it a

719
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Speaker 3: little bit yesterday on whether or not there needs to

720
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Speaker 3: be a move made moving forward. I think there's one

721
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Speaker 3: name that we can talk about because he's a free

722
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Speaker 3: agent that Isaiah has been very adamant on trying to

723
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Speaker 3: go and join forces with. He wants Christian Wilkins.

724
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Speaker 1: He really Yeah, he's tickled by Christian wilm.

725
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the idea certainly has him infatuated whenever it comes

726
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 3: to putting him on the defensive line. But as far

727
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Speaker 3: as the trade goes, if you're going to get an

728
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Speaker 3: impact player on defense in the middle of a season, it's.

729
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Speaker 1: Going to cost you a pretty penny. On cost you little,

730
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Speaker 1: it's going to cost you lot a lot it's going.

731
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Speaker 3: So what do you think, Pat when you look at

732
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: other rosters are around the league.

733
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Speaker 1: There are there are a couple names that we can't say,

734
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Speaker 1: like you mentioned, we can't. But I've said this on

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Speaker 1: the show as recently as a couple weeks ago, when

736
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Speaker 1: maybe even last week, when you asked me to put

737
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: on the GM cap, I said I would make a trade.

738
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Speaker 1: I would be willing to part with one of those

739
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: first round picks that you got in to deal with Micah,

740
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Speaker 1: and I would address the defensive imposition. And I get

741
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: what you're saying with the defensive tackle. I'm curious to

742
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: see where perry On Winfrey is in his return behind

743
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark and trying to boaster that situation. But we'll see.

744
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: I am more confident in the run defense getting back

745
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: to where they need to be than I am with

746
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Speaker 1: the outlook for the past rush. I know what you

747
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: have with James Houston. Love that. I love that I

748
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: see Jadavion Clowney finding his groove. I love that I

749
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: see Dante Fowler getting on the right track and kind

750
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Speaker 1: of getting close to what we know Dante can be.

751
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Speaker 1: But as we have this conversation, am I willing to

752
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Speaker 1: bet the season on it?

753
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 7: No?

754
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Speaker 1: I am not, which means I am willing to part

755
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: ways with one of those picks to go go and

756
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Speaker 1: get a George Pickens type guy. And there's one in

757
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Speaker 1: my in my mind right now. I can't see his name,

758
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: but ye, the guy's quite a tiger. Yeah understood.

759
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Speaker 5: There are some solid D linemen on some teams that

760
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 5: suck right now, some solid interior D linemen. I would

761
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 5: like to have a defensive end to go out there

762
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Speaker 5: and get some pressure. But the reality is, if you

763
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 5: can stop a team from running the ball, you can

764
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Speaker 5: elicit pressure.

765
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Speaker 1: Right last week, Yeah, so I would love to go

766
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Speaker 1: get the free agent, the tickler a law or I

767
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: sure can. I would love to go get him.

768
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Speaker 5: Or I would like to grab one of these guys

769
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Speaker 5: from from one of these teams that.

770
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Speaker 1: Just are terrible and they're going nowhere right now. And

771
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans have have some big fellas, some big fellas

772
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: up front that are big time run stoppers, and I

773
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: think that they are most likely exploring all options.

774
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Speaker 3: That are on the table, so you're not looking at

775
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: pass rush to bolster.

776
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Speaker 1: I would much rather put it like this. If Clark

777
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: gets hurt, what do you what do you mean? That

778
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: would be rough. That's why I say, yeah, I mean

779
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: you saw that on Sunday. Came out of the game. Great,

780
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: thank god you went back in.

781
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 4: But it's like, if that is not indicative of a

782
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 4: winning series.

783
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: That's what he's out because he is such.

784
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Speaker 4: A crucial element to that defense.

785
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Creded for him for.

786
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Speaker 5: That hope, that flash in front of all the decision

787
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: maker's eyes like, oh he's down, Like he very easily

788
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 5: could have torn his whole el ball off on that

789
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 5: play and you would have been sitting up there like,

790
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Speaker 5: all right, Mizzie, let's go.

791
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

792
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Speaker 1: I will say if if, if that's what you're going

793
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Speaker 1: to do, I'm with you on I don't know if

794
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you on on the who. But that's a

795
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: free agency thing that I would do, Like because you've

796
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: already traded to acquire a guy Kenny Clark right there.

797
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm not trading to acquire another guy. Why there? I

798
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: just you have the depth there?

799
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 7: Are you?

800
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with the depth there?

801
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 7: No?

802
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you. I'm good with the free agent?

803
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: Are you good with Mizzi Smith? Are you good with Joy?

804
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: Right now? You're not good with either one of them?

805
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, that's that's that's I also said, I

806
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: need to know where Perryon is in his recovery. I

807
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: need to know. But is he a dominant I don't know.

808
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm saying dominant.

809
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 5: If you can have two surf dominant interior defensive line

810
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 5: run stoppers and not even talking about I'm talking about

811
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 5: two interior big fellas, you're not running the ball in here.

812
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 5: You change the entire dynamic of your defense, especially when

813
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 5: you have linebackers that are most likely undersized, considered to

814
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: be undersized, that fly around and hit. If you can

815
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: free up those linebackers to run and hit, and then

816
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 5: you can go out there and press man with your

817
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: utopia of defensive backs that you have right with Revel

818
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 5: and dB and Diggs. If that's your what you're trying

819
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 5: to get to stop the run forces cast to pass.

820
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: I will get some pressure. I'll send one additional linebacker.

821
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Speaker 5: I'll send Leah Foil, I'll send Overshown, I'll send Shamar James,

822
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 5: I'll send whoever to get some more pressure.

823
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: Oh, just like you just saw this past week. But listen, schematically,

824
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: I have one percent agree with you. How we get

825
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: there is where we're not on the same page. Example,

826
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: So what you're wanting is a one tech situation that

827
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: mirrors to three tech situation you have. Osa, You have

828
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Speaker 1: Sally Sally, Osa Sal Sally Sally was a free agency

829
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: and he's older. That's fair. I'm simply saying that you

830
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: could solve this in free agency and I will be

831
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: more comfortable with it. And honestly, if you not, I'm

832
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: not out on Wilkins. But if you're coming to me

833
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: and you're saying, would you rather trade to acquire someone

834
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: behind Kenny Clark or would you rather go with Wilkins,

835
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: then I would rather go.

836
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Speaker 5: I don't think that Wilkins is healthy. Otherwise he would

837
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 5: have been gone by now, right, So I don't think

838
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: he's healthy. But I, or you can tell HI might

839
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: be the other thing, if you can tell me if

840
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 5: that's too But if you could tell me that I

841
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 5: could put somebody next to Kenny Clark that's going to

842
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 5: demand the respect of the opposing offensive.

843
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Line, man, give me that dude.

844
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 5: Give me like this dude in the one technique, this

845
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 5: dude in the three technique. We can't move these guys.

846
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: We can't.

847
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Osa, Osa, go do what you do Solomon cool? Right,

848
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 5: and then young fellas y'all sprinkling there as well. Right,

849
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 5: But like being able to put two guys on the

850
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 5: inside between the guard and the center is saying yeah, nah,

851
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 5: not in here, player, Like that changes absolutely if you're

852
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 5: playing Madden, that changes anything you like.

853
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: But I'm going outside. I mean, let me ask you

854
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: a question there, Alan Kine combos what you're talking about, Yeah,

855
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: washing it in which you did not want to run straight?

856
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: Josh is gonna ask this question, and then we got

857
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: to go to break.

858
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Just really quickly.

859
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: I feel like if you bring in a pass rusher

860
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: as opposed to a defensive tackle, I think that is

861
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: going to improve the play of oh So Diggiz. I

862
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: really think he benefited obviously he benefited from the pass

863
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 4: rusher of Michael Parsons when Michael Parsons was here. If

864
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 4: you bring in a guy that is able to give

865
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: you an upgrade of what you currently over what you

866
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: currently have in Sam Williams, please you know what I mean,

867
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: I think you need to do that. I think that's

868
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: the move that I would make currently. But I also

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Speaker 4: just beef up the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: In any way, whether it's an end whether it's interior.

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Speaker 1: Fine with that interior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with the interior being an important part

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Speaker 3: of this whole puzzle in how it is. But would

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Speaker 3: you say this year twenty twenty five is the best

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Speaker 3: interior defensive line play the Cowboys have had in Tayta

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Speaker 3: for sure pushing over days, Yeah, absolutely and totally I

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Speaker 3: completely agree. But if you're gonna spend high draft capital

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Speaker 3: to do something, even with the best interior defensive line

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Speaker 3: play that we've had in ten years in the Cowboys organization,

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Speaker 3: you've had one of the worst.

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Speaker 1: Pass rushes we've there.

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Speaker 3: That's in the same time, you.

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Speaker 1: Can even with one play exactly.

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Speaker 3: Let's just agree. If you want to sure up the

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Speaker 3: depth of your defensive tackle room, sure, fine, go make

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Speaker 3: it happen. Just don't spend first round draft picks to

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Speaker 3: go get somebody.

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Speaker 5: I did say, Yeah, I'm gonna s saying first round

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Speaker 5: because I don't know who you would trade a first

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Speaker 5: interior d lineman.

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Speaker 1: But I know we gotta go. But I.

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Speaker 5: You have to be dominant somewhere. Yeah, you can't just

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Speaker 5: be across the board. So if you're close, if you

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Speaker 5: think that you're closest to being dominant on an interior,

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Speaker 5: then become dominant.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: You're on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: What a big fight?

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Speaker 8: Well, what's going on? Guys? I want to say the

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Speaker 8: biggest improvement I think for the Cowboys is obviously our defense.

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Speaker 8: Hopefully we can just keep it up. I just you know,

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Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, we get certain guys back

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Speaker 8: over here back in a couple of weeks. It's just

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Speaker 8: I want to just I want to see us be

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Speaker 8: consistent on defense. It's you know, we talk about it

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Speaker 8: all the times. That's that's that's my biggest takeaway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta be better on the defensive side. And we

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Speaker 3: saw a step in the right direction, uh, coming up

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Speaker 3: this past Sunday. That's the biggest thing. And that's part

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Speaker 3: of what our debate was in the last segment, it

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Speaker 3: was you were trying to beef up this defense enough

964
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Speaker 3: to keep the moment and rolling in the right direction

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Speaker 3: because your offense is elite. We've had that whole debate

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Speaker 3: for a week now on this show, and I think

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Speaker 3: we're seeing why that's the case.

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Speaker 1: What do your linebackers do best? Run a hit down

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Speaker 1: heroside down downhill? You think so? You think you're your

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Speaker 1: entire linebacker corps. No, not an entire I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: entire linebacker corps demo as well. Yeah, okay, sideline the sideline,

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Speaker 1: right demo, certainly demo dem it's sidelined a sideline. But

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Speaker 1: they are very different players. Mars, would you consider him

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Speaker 1: down sideline the sideline?

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Speaker 3: Kenneth Murray absolutely not, Jack Sanborn absolutely not. Marius Leah

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Speaker 3: foul and Demarvi and Overshown who are right now have

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Speaker 3: been either off the field entirely or not on the

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Speaker 3: field at all. A ton in marrisle the guys you

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Speaker 3: haven't been playing their sideline the sideline.

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Speaker 5: So the guys that have been playing, so talking about

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Speaker 5: a better down, so talking about potential additions for your

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Speaker 5: future moves because games that are coming up as your future, right,

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Speaker 5: So are we are we talking about what has been

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Speaker 5: on the field in Sanborn? Are we going to talk

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Speaker 5: about what is going to be on the field, which

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Speaker 5: is who they're going to put.

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Speaker 1: You got to look at Shamar because you know like

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Speaker 1: he's getting tackling machine. Yeah, he's a tackling machine all over.

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Speaker 3: So if that Sanbourne, if you have the linebacker, that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If your linebackers can run and hit, which is what

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Speaker 1: Dallas's linebackers do, right, your chances of you out running

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Speaker 1: them sideline the sideline is slimming none correct.

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Speaker 5: Put the big boys up front, go get it, Go

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Speaker 5: get a big boy so that they teams have to

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Speaker 5: I just run sideline the sideline. The chances it doesn't

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Speaker 5: fix your pastors, but you can get pressure by by

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Speaker 5: sending blizzes.

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Speaker 1: If your goal.

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Speaker 5: If you stop the run and now teams have to pass,

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Speaker 5: and you have corners that you think now or that

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Speaker 5: you've seen can play man the man defense.

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Speaker 1: Now I have an extra guid to go send to you.

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Speaker 1: But they are two to Coll's point, there are two,

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Speaker 1: including the return of Demo. There are two linebackers in

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Speaker 1: this depth dart that you cannot outrun sideline. The sideline

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Speaker 1: it's demo and that's Marist. Okay, Shamar, maybe like Spades,

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Speaker 1: it's impossible. Maybe you can't outrun Shamar because he's a

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Speaker 1: tackling machine. You can probably outrun Murray. You can outrun

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Speaker 1: Sandborn once you get is not gonna be on the field. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying because you're like, do you have linebackers

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Speaker 1: that he can But what I'm saying, but with this

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Speaker 1: defense you're playing how many linebackers two? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big boyfriend, I still think you need to up

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Speaker 3: your pass rush. I'm okay with depth.

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Speaker 5: There's no team that's gonna give up their number one

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Speaker 5: pass right, nobody's giving up their number one pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably right.

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Speaker 3: It's not you're gonna pay, You're gonna break the bank

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Speaker 3: to go do it.

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Speaker 1: Teams will give up their interior d line.

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Speaker 3: Now, all right, we've got to go here on talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna preview a little QB

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Speaker 3: vision the Cowboys offense against that upcoming defense in the

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Speaker 3: Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: That defense is nasty coming up there.

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Speaker 3: They lost one they did, they certainly will tomorrow on

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Speaker 3: Wednesday with the Talking Cowboys crew Patrick no C Walkers, Roderriguez,

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Speaker 3: Isaiah stand back, Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle

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Speaker 3: Yeoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Will see tomorrow.

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