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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never throw the ball

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Speaker 1: on third down near the goal line.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Greg, Greg, I'm here in the.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westleying podcast studio and so happy to be joined

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Speaker 1: today by Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic and Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 3: You had to just start that way.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the power chair, by the way, and it

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Speaker 4: feels great.

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Speaker 3: I feel alive right now.

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Speaker 5: So how are you doing.

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Speaker 4: You know, hanging in, hanging on by a thread?

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Speaker 3: What the heck? Everything?

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Speaker 2: That game?

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Speaker 3: That game was such a roller coaster, all of the

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Speaker 3: lead changes.

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Speaker 4: And then at the end, I was like, all right,

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Speaker 4: this day has been extremely annoying. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: things that happened and I just didn't feel like dealing with.

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Speaker 4: And then it seemed like, okay, now I'm home. I

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Speaker 4: took my makeup off, I have dinner in front of me.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting on the couch.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles they just took the lead again, and it

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Speaker 4: seems like everything now is just.

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Speaker 2: A long drives push. We were back.

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Speaker 3: Loved it.

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Speaker 4: Jason Kelsey's in the booth for like all of the

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Speaker 4: tush pushes.

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Speaker 3: Everything's lovely. He was in.

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Speaker 4: Nick Foles is getting honored at halftime. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: was a night for Eagles fans. It should have been.

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Speaker 4: It felt that way. Everything was trending in that direction.

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Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley, you know, he looked like really great, just

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Speaker 4: like he did in the debut. And then yeah, I

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Speaker 4: feel like it all turned around when Saquon had the

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Speaker 4: touchdown that then wasn't the touchdown and was ruled at

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Speaker 4: the half yard line, and then just things sort of started.

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Speaker 2: To fall scarred.

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Speaker 3: But it just wasn't It wasn't right. Things were off.

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Speaker 5: Does it make you feel better or worse to know

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Speaker 5: that with one minute and fifty six seconds left the

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Speaker 5: uh the Falcons had a zero point so percentage percentage.

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Speaker 5: I didn't have a chance. I saw that game all

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Speaker 5: that according to next Gen statses just wondering, you know,

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Speaker 5: is it better to rip it all out now or

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Speaker 5: like just dwell, Like I'm just trying to feel you

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Speaker 4: I was so annoyed after that game, Like I didn't

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Speaker 4: even know what to do with myself. I was just

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Speaker 4: walking around my place talking, talking to myself, and I

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Speaker 4: was like I and then I went outside because like

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Speaker 4: the wind was banging something against the house. And I'm

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Speaker 4: like tripping over things in the dark, so annoyed about

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Speaker 4: the each yells at the wind.

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Speaker 3: I was yelling at the wind.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if if you listen to our our

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Speaker 1: Monday night football recap with me and Nick Schuk, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a sad image. And yet when I think that's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna repeated more and more as you.

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Speaker 4: Get you know what though, I mean, you just gave

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins too much time, too much. They marched right,

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Speaker 4: It took like two seconds. Two seconds that Vic Fangio defense.

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Speaker 4: I'm so annoyed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you know, if you're listening, might be like,

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Speaker 1: you guys already hit the Monday night football game. Like,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I like this, yeah, you know, we

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Speaker 1: we were doing therapy last week. This feels like a

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Speaker 1: disappointed in that game too. I had the Eagles winning.

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Speaker 1: Like I like that team, And it was just a

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Speaker 1: I thought back to it. The first two weeks didn't

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Speaker 1: game we're going to remember all season. And then I

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Speaker 1: just thought about the poetry of it all, and how

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Speaker 1: like the NFL has I hate this poem.

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Speaker 2: A long life, I do too.

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Speaker 1: But Nick Foles is there in the building, Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles night. Meanwhile, Matt Ryan is on the Manning

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Speaker 1: cast as it's happening, the old Falcons quarterback and saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: when you're in a two minute drill, that's actually the

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Speaker 1: link last not last, but it's about you, it.

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Speaker 1: And that was Matt Ryan versus Nick Foles. And at

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Speaker 1: the very end of the game, they're inside the ten

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Speaker 1: I know exactly, and first down for a touchdown that

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Speaker 1: would have ended Nick Foles and his Super Bowl run

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Speaker 1: before it even happened. A couple of plays later, you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't get it on fourth down either, and it's

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Speaker 2: It just it all was happening.

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Speaker 4: I know you're right, everything would be so different. And

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Speaker 4: I was thinking about Saquan in after playing so many

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Speaker 4: and now this was his first night in prime time

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Speaker 4: the Eagles. And many other things played into that, but

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Speaker 4: it was just such a turn of events, specifically for

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Speaker 5: On the on the Falcon side too, the going into

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Speaker 5: probably could have happened for Kirk Cousins, not just because

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Speaker 5: of what you and Matt Ryan said about you're just

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Speaker 5: not thinking, you're just yourself and unequal standing there in

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Speaker 5: this conversation, but it also you could tell the way

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Speaker 5: in that game. He was very clearly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were pretty doubt on Kirk.

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Speaker 1: You were like, let's you know, just reading between the

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Speaker 5: And but you know what, he looked great on that dray,

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Speaker 5: every time he dropped back, every time he hands off.

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Speaker 5: Finally play action. Yeah, you know, all of those things

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Speaker 4: Left the vibes vies are and then and then and

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Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni talking about, oh, well, like you know on

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Speaker 4: that call, there's a mechanism where if Jalen doesn't have

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Speaker 3: Are you throwing Jalen under the bus?

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Speaker 1: He's not. People I saw some of it, like why

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Speaker 1: are you even saying that? Because it's obvious And the

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Speaker 1: if it's not there, just slide all right, well we'll

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Speaker 3: This is set a great tone.

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Speaker 5: You know she's Judge later, right, So that is why

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Speaker 5: it look really nice today.

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Speaker 2: Is in the power chair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, we appreciate it all

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Speaker 1: But first we're going to do just a little bit

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Speaker 1: of news.

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Speaker 2: Found out on.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon just before we tape that Tua Tongue of

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Speaker 1: Iloa is indeed going to injured reserve are Ian Rappaport

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Speaker 1: had that first. That means that Tua is not eligible

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins are prioritizing his health, according to Ian, and

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Speaker 1: there is no timeline being placed on his potential return,

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Speaker 1: but the earliest possible return would be week eight and

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Speaker 1: that's four games. And that's Skyler Thompson trying to keep

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Speaker 5: Look at the language on this even even in the

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Speaker 5: The language of it itself is saying, Okay, he's going

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly what I thought when I saw this,

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Speaker 4: that Okay, they're obviously protecting Tua, but it's almost like

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Speaker 1: you know he had this concussion. He was in the

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Speaker 1: talking to his teammates. Not all concussions are equal, Not

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Speaker 1: but it's more up to the doctors, and they, you know,

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Speaker 4: He had this track record with Baker Mayfield and Gino

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Speaker 5: Yeah, literally doesn't happen trying to force a square peg

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Speaker 3: This is going to go down as one of the

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Speaker 4: H Yeah, the fact that they still have a second

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Speaker 2: The Panthers have blown this at every turn.

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Speaker 1: I looked, and I thought, who's been as bad, you know,

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Speaker 5: is so public right now and happening right now. You

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Speaker 5: have to try because also if you are truly saying

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Speaker 5: and there's also some chatter sort of circulating about this

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Speaker 5: over there as well, if this is what's best for

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Speaker 5: Bryce as well as what's best for your football team,

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Speaker 5: and it is the position for the football team, let's

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Speaker 5: be clear on that. But you also can't say that

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Speaker 5: and then have him sitting around as the backup or

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Speaker 5: in your locker room like as a reminder, and then

447
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Speaker 5: also continue to kill his confidence by showing up to

448
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Speaker 5: this place every single day like you have to move him.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you're gonna have to help Panthers fans

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Speaker 4: again like you did a couple of episodes.

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Speaker 5: I want better for them. They deserve better.

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Speaker 3: Settle in. It's gonna be a long ride.

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Speaker 5: I want them to have joy. I want them to

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Speaker 5: have joy.

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Speaker 1: At least they have their first round pick this year,

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Speaker 1: and it might be a high one. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: quick break and when we return, it is the return.

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Speaker 3: Of Judge conn coming back.

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Speaker 6: Everyone is talking about the honorable Colleen Wool, the go

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Speaker 6: to voice for everything football, real cases, real solution.

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Speaker 2: She's Judge Connie.

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Speaker 4: All right, everybody, welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the courtroom.

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Speaker 3: Bailiff. I believe you have some things to say here.

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Speaker 2: Please rise, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yep, we're gonna We're gonna do it. We're going through.

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Speaker 5: Is the height of Hubris, Well not you, You're not

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Speaker 5: the height of Hubrit.

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Speaker 6: It's all right, Order order the Court of the Third

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Speaker 6: Judicial Circuit Civil Division is now in session. The Honorable

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Speaker 6: Judge Connie presiding.

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Speaker 3: All right, everyone, but the jury may be seated.

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Speaker 4: As it turns out, I am judge and jury here,

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Speaker 4: So mister Roberts, please swear in the jury.

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Speaker 6: Please raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear or

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Speaker 6: affirm that you will truly listen to this case and

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Speaker 6: render a true verdict and a fair sentence as to

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Speaker 6: this defendant?

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Speaker 2: I do. You may be seated.

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Speaker 4: All right, here we go. Thank you guys for coming

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Speaker 4: in here. I'd like to wrap things up by four o'clock.

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Speaker 4: I got a detective I gotta meet.

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Speaker 3: So listen.

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Speaker 2: A lot of traffic out there on prairies.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, poor lanes down to one. Don't even

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Speaker 4: get me started. They have no one directing traffic out there.

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Speaker 5: Objection baiting the judge and jury.

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Speaker 3: All right, sustained.

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Speaker 4: So I see today's case is the passing game versus

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Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 3: Is the prosecution ready?

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Speaker 2: I am all right?

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Speaker 3: Is the defense ready? Sure? All right? Let's be good.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: I want to take you back to twenty twenty, a

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Speaker 1: magical time justin Herbert's rookie year. I mean there were

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Speaker 1: some issues with twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest, not a magical year, mister Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: I want to point out in that twenty twenty season,

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert had the most yards passing per game per

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Speaker 1: start in NFL history. I want to point out that

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Speaker 1: he had the most passing touchdowns for a rookie in

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Speaker 1: NFL history, more than Andrew Luck, more than Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: more than Peyton Manning. There was a guy back then

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Speaker 1: that I enjoyed watching that I think all of America

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Speaker 1: enjoyed watching that threw the ball with a little daring

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Speaker 1: do There was that like sixty five yard passed from

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Speaker 1: the Bucks against the Bucks while he's getting absolutely crushed

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Speaker 1: in air to Jalen Geiton down for a touchdown. There

509
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Speaker 1: were all these bombs to Mike Williams like he was

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Speaker 1: the man. Now I want to take you to today.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers have attempted forty six forward passes in the season.

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Speaker 1: They have run the ball seventy one times. Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: came in talking about balance, balance bout, like where is

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Speaker 1: the balance? It's all running And then I can here

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Speaker 1: the defense talking now, yes, but they're efficient, and oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh loves to slap his shoulder pads. No, they're not efficient.

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Speaker 1: He's throwing the ball worse than he's ever thrown the ball.

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Speaker 1: Six yards per attempt, twentieth in the NFL, in EPA,

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Speaker 1: twentieth in success rate. There isn't a stat you can

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Speaker 1: find of Justin Herbert throwing the ball that is positive.

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Speaker 1: They have turned him into Justin Fields throwing the ball,

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Speaker 1: but without all the rushing fun. Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty because we're here in the Chris Westling podcast courtroom.

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Speaker 1: That season, I had the fortune of driving our friend

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Speaker 1: Chris back from Chemo to his house every week. Chris

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Speaker 1: was still writing QB Index at the time. A lot

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Speaker 1: of those conversations were about football, and Justin Herbert was

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Speaker 1: a man as a rookie that was making us feel

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Speaker 1: something we would talk about Justin Herbert saying like, this

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Speaker 1: is the quarterback since we've been doing this job that

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Speaker 1: moved us the most. So you can talk about your

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Speaker 1: wins and your losses, but he connected with us on

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Speaker 1: a spiritual football entertainment level, and this is an entertain product.

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Speaker 2: Now they've made him boring. I want that old Justin

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Speaker 2: back and Jim Harbaugh is not giving it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, are there any with the with the defense like

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Speaker 4: to speak now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, aside from the clear emotional manipulation of the previous argument,

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Speaker 5: because Soup can picture it right, incredibly moved by that

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Speaker 5: it's being weaponized in this case against this argument twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: I recall also the time that the Chargers went seven

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Speaker 5: and nine. You know this this arguer lawyer, I don't

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Speaker 5: know the right word, but this person arguing things right

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Speaker 5: now absolutely loves watching Justin Herbert throw the football. But

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Speaker 5: it sounds like the argument on the other side is

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Speaker 5: being made despite the disguise of true feelings and empathy

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Speaker 5: in actuality for the sake of his perhaps fantasy football

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Speaker 5: team or one of his few. Because he doesn't interrupting,

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Speaker 5: interrupting some sort of penalty on that, you know, because

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Speaker 5: regardless of he's thinking about it from that perspective. Less

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Speaker 5: so a game strategy perspective, you want balance. Let's talk

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Speaker 5: about pin and pull and counter and duo and the

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Speaker 5: gorgeous aerial footage of these tight ends who can block

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Speaker 5: so effectively. They are restoring balance to this offense of

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Speaker 5: line that will need to protect Justin Herbert. Should they

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Speaker 5: actually play like a real football team and need to

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Speaker 5: come out of a deficit and throw the football. This

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00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: offensive line, these blockers, this run game will protect the

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Speaker 5: Justin Herbert who recently was missing practice due to plantar fasciis.

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Speaker 5: Daniel Popper of the Athletics said he told reporters that

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Speaker 5: he would be managing this all season. So I ask

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Speaker 5: you this, why don't you want to protect Justin Herbert?

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Speaker 5: Instead of thinking about the flash of the ball sailing

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Speaker 5: through the air, look at the aerial shots of this

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Speaker 5: run game. Look at the beauty of the old school.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh sold this whole idea a great offensive line argument.

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Speaker 5: He's already closed.

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Speaker 3: I've already I've reached a decision, all right.

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Speaker 4: The court does not need to hear anything further on this.

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Speaker 4: After not a lot of deliberating at all, I think

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Speaker 4: here that the passing game versus Jim Harball. Harball is

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Speaker 4: not guilty, fortunately, of making Justin Herbert boring because they

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Speaker 4: are a two and oh team and they are fun

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Speaker 4: to watch, and just because Justin Herbert isn't exciting, Jim

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Speaker 4: Harball comes in.

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Speaker 3: He's exciting. He fills that gap for me, so look.

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Speaker 1: Hon rightame chection, there is no way your honor as watched.

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Speaker 3: Are you questioning the court.

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Speaker 2: I'm exciting.

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Speaker 3: I find you in conject of the court.

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Speaker 5: They make me feel alive.

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Speaker 1: The thirtieth in past block win rate, Jim Harbough was

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Speaker 1: selling this whole idea that the offensive line is going

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Speaker 1: to be affected.

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Speaker 5: Number is skewed a little bit because of the low

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Speaker 5: sample size, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Maybe thirty first in run block winter. I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 1: I has their offensive line even played that well, I

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Speaker 1: just want to see an effect, Like, give me at

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Speaker 1: least an effect of Herbert.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't even dridden thirty passing yards.

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Speaker 4: That was the second lowest in any game ever that

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Speaker 4: Herbert has played. It's a different justin Herbert. It's a

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Speaker 4: different year, and there's been a league wide shift in

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Speaker 4: going towards the running game. So it's not just the

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Speaker 4: Chargers that are doing this, and.

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Speaker 1: It's and you're gonna have to throw the ball at

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Speaker 1: some point for them to be the team that they

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Speaker 1: want to be. But yeah, you mentioned two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy four yards combined passing.

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Speaker 2: He averaged more than that per game.

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Speaker 5: And I'm just saying, I just remember a couple of

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Speaker 5: years ago when people were like frothing at the mouth

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Speaker 5: to get Joe Lombardi and Kellen Moore up out of there,

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Speaker 5: and like this is this is a different kind of football.

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Speaker 5: Beauty looks different. That's fair, every Jody, We are all

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Speaker 5: in football God's creatures, and all of our run schemes,

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Speaker 5: in passing schemes are yeah, full and flowers don't compete

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Speaker 5: with each other.

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Speaker 1: I just need or Sane Sneiken was his offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: back then. Anthony Lynn his coach, and yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: really thinking about those rides with Wes as I'm watching

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Speaker 1: this Panthers Chargers game on condensed, mostly for it is

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Speaker 1: really nice and and the coaches stuff, and because I

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Speaker 1: was watching because of Bryce Young, and then I'm watching

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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, what happened to that guy?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Because we all thought, we meaning me and Wes, that

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Speaker 1: like this is going to be the next great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And he's been very good. He's been unquestionably a top

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Speaker 1: ten quarterback, maybe top seven or eight, and we've blamed

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Speaker 1: a lot of what's going on around him, and I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna get there with Jim Harbaugh, at some

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Speaker 1: point they're.

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Speaker 5: Gonna have to throw the ball, and he will. I

626
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: know this offense is built to have his back when

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Speaker 5: he does have to start throwing the ball. That's the

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Speaker 5: that's the foundation they're laying right now. It's not that

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Speaker 5: they're never going to run the ball until he disappointed.

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Speaker 2: Can I be disappointed?

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Speaker 3: Can be disappointed?

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Speaker 1: But legally, if I if I was telling Wes this

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Speaker 1: is how the next five years of Herbert's going to go,

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be like, oh, I well.

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Speaker 5: I think we all are like, man, just throw the

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Speaker 5: ball a hundred times a game if you're justin Herbert.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, that's not what's happening here.

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Speaker 4: Working the way that they're doing it right now now

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Speaker 4: and now they they play the Steelers this week, which

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Speaker 4: you know, final score prediction nine to seven.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. Who wins?

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Speaker 5: That's beautiful in its own way.

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Speaker 3: Not Greg, he doesn't win. Okay, Uh, miss rod Reeg.

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Speaker 4: I believe that you are up next uh in your

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Speaker 4: case for uh why don't you tell the court?

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Speaker 3: Why don't you enlighten the court.

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Speaker 5: The case sport which oh and two football team is

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Speaker 5: going to turn things around a case by the way

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Speaker 5: in which the judge herself and the jury herself, uh huh,

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Speaker 5: has made a significant preseason investment in a certain O

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Speaker 5: and two team that we must decide now. So here

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Speaker 5: are the list.

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Speaker 4: Of This is very difficult for the judge to internalize.

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Speaker 2: The court.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so here here are the list of oh and

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Speaker 5: two teams. Okay, So the Ravens, the Panthers, the Bengals,

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Speaker 5: the Broncos, the Colts pause for effect, the Jaguars, the Rams,

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Speaker 5: the Giants, the Titans. I argue that of any of

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Speaker 5: these zero to two teams, and because I'm doing this

660
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 5: a little for the show as well, that the Bengals

661
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 5: will be the team to turn this round. But I

662
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: authorize the judge and the jury in this case if

663
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 5: she so chooses to stick to her guns from the

664
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Speaker 5: preseason prediction that the Indianapolis Colts would be a super

665
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 5: superstar team this year, I authorize the judge to overrule

666
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 5: both arguments. My argument is that the Bengals will be

667
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: on the team of this group to turn this around.

668
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 5: I need to see more data on Joe Burrow, but

669
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 5: he played well against the Chiefs, as we hoped that

670
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: he would, talked about on this show. But three of

671
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 5: their next four games are Washington, Carolina and the New

672
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 5: York Giants. They could at least be three three through

673
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 5: six games, So I'm going to keep it simple. That's okay,

674
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: simple arm.

675
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: Well, miss Roderigue.

676
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Speaker 4: I would say here that the Bengals are guilty of

677
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: finding success.

678
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: I think that that will happen.

679
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the Court is a little upset that you are

680
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: playing on the emotional heartstrings of the judge and Jerry,

681
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: and I was already annoyed off the top of the

682
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: show because of the evils.

683
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 5: Greg did that, Okay, Greg did.

684
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: Now you both have crossed me.

685
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: I am wondering, like.

686
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 4: I am so upset by what I have watched from

687
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: the Colts. I I cannot render any type of decision

688
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: at this point on the Colts because I want to

689
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: believe in them still and I can't. I can't just

690
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: say no, it's them. But what I've seen, the evidence

691
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: that's out there is really pointing to this season not

692
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: being a great one.

693
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 5: I will say before Greg makes his argument. And I

694
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 5: did note that he started to interrupt you but then

695
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 5: pulled back. Yeah, he was trying to, like, you know,

696
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 5: Curry favor. I think on that one. It's noted by

697
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 5: the four five seasons, only two teams, the twenty twenty

698
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 5: three Texans and the twenty twenty two Bengals, have made

699
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: the playoffs after zero and two starts, and so the

700
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: Bengals have been here before. Their schedule is a walk

701
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: through a spring valley over the next few games, and

702
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 5: I think they can do this again.

703
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

704
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: A lot of the argument for the Bengals coming into

705
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: the season was this fourth place schedule that they were

706
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: going to get with really easy games like starting out

707
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: at home against the Patriots. You gotta be worried about

708
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: just chalking up wins on a you know, chocol.

709
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 5: I think we all knew because you don't stop talking

710
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 5: about it that the Patriots were you have a good Ah.

711
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: There we go.

712
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: Even think the prosecutor here understands sort of how this

713
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: segment works, like who is the defendant?

714
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: Who's uh?

715
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: I am judge and jury the case? That's what I know.

716
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: You get to decide to sack the courtroom. Yeah, I

717
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: think it.

718
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: Would be the raven The Ravens have the twenty audacity

719
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three MVP. Okay, if you simulated that game.

720
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: They do this football the former Football Outsiders. Now they're

721
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: on FDN where it's like probability to win. If you

722
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: look at what happened in Sunday's game and you simulated it,

723
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: like the Ravens easily outplayed the Raiders for all that game.

724
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: It was a very fluky game.

725
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: These things happen when Gardner Minshew goes to Baltimore for

726
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: some reason, it happened to year ago when he was

727
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: a member of the Colts one of the craziest games

728
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: of that season.

729
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: And more to the point, it's September. These first couple

730
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: of weeks are often wise, and the Ravens are consistently

731
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: an organization that improves, especially defensively, as the season wheres on.

732
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about the data.

733
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 5: Tells us that since twenty fifteen, seventy four teams have

734
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 5: started zero to two, and those seventy four eight have

735
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: made the playoffs. The two to do it recently. I

736
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 5: have previously named so, yeah, it's not that that OHO

737
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 5: and two starts are actually not fluky. Based on yeah

738
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 5: it is, I also think, thank you, I also think

739
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 5: that that's that is fluky because it's counting sixteen game seasons.

740
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: To me, that only that's that is only kind of

741
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: relevant in the last three years.

742
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: So throw it out. It's out of art.

743
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 5: So the twenty twenty two Bengals.

744
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would stay, would wor Yeah, the Bengals always

745
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: start slow. They'll they'll figure it out. They'll get it going.

746
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 4: I think the Ravens will too.

747
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: The Colts just really not.

748
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: You know. I dangled it as an option because I

749
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: believe in the empowerment that you have as miss Rodrigue.

750
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: I know what you are doing here, all right.

751
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't get I wouldn't give up on the Colts.

752
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: The defense is more concerning to me than what's going

753
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: on with Anthony Richardson. And the running game has looked

754
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: pretty good. They've just missed a couple of plays. They

755
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: were right there with the Texans. I think their offense

756
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: is going to be fine. The defense is a little

757
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: all right, we.

758
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: Got to move on to our next case here, Okay.

759
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: On the docket, we have the Super Bowl versus the

760
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints.

761
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: She didn't even make a ruling because the oh yeah,

762
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: he was so vague. I said that, She said, Jordan,

763
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: that was like Connie.

764
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: Style finding success.

765
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go.

766
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 5: I'm two and now I just want to let you know.

767
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: All right, super Bowl versus you're not gonna.

768
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: Win this one, all right, I am gonna make a

769
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: case for the Saints as Super Bowl contenders.

770
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: I barely need to make a case.

771
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: I'll just show you the newspaper if those still exist, Like,

772
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: just show you the facts. The fourth best DVOA through

773
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: two weeks. Ever, that's just total efficiency offense defense. Number

774
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: one in offense by far, almost double the rest of

775
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: the league, number three on defense. If you look at

776
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: the rest of the top tens in terms of the

777
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season, of like who's been

778
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: the best through two weeks, the average win total for

779
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: those ten teams over the course of a season is thirteen.

780
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: So by average, if you start this well, you end

781
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: up about a thirteen and three thirteen and four season.

782
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: Any team that wins thirteen games is a Super Bowl contender.

783
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: The eye test, it's just there. They're cohesive. You watch

784
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: the running game, They're just moving. It's fantastic. They've got

785
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: leaders on the defense with the Mario Davis Honey Badger.

786
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: A Lante Taylor is playing, oh yeah, out of his mind.

787
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: And then there's something they call in New Orleans, you know,

788
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: creole culture, land yap.

789
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: You know, it's just just like a little extra.

790
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: Mister Rosenthal, can you explain to the court what this is?

791
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Okay, It's it's like Supreme Justice Potter Stewart said, what

792
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: land yap is rather lan yap is. Yeah, it's just

793
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: a little extra. It's like a little some a little

794
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: extra something could be like a little extra gift.

795
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: You how is that spelled exactly?

796
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: La n G?

797
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: And I A ppe pretty good. I don't know if

798
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: that was right or not, but I tried just a

799
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: little something extra. And this team has that. You can

800
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: just tell by looking at him. They've just got a

801
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: certain energy, a certain sort of juice. It's like, like

802
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: I was saying, Supreme Justice Potter Stewart, Yeah, one of

803
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: your old co workers said about porn. Actually in the

804
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four Supreme Court case Yacabellas versus Ohio.

805
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 2: You know what, when you see it, and we all

806
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: see it with this.

807
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 3: Saints team, what a great reference. Okay, So miss Rodrigue.

808
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 5: Oh actually Greg's arguing against himself.

809
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 3: Oh wonderful.

810
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 5: So he'll win.

811
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: One, Okay, I don't know. I'm torn about this Saint's team.

812
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue against the Saints team too.

813
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

814
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: This is so good?

815
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: What is happening here?

816
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: Cook?

817
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: We're an extended preseason.

818
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: Everyone talks about like the preseason matters, like I might

819
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: really gonna fall for this Saint's team.

820
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: That two weeks ago, no one liked this Saint's team.

821
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: They were totally forgot, and the coaches all wanted, you know,

822
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: the fans all wanted the coaches fired. No one was

823
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: happy with Derek Carr. It's Derek Carr. We do have

824
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: like a ten year track record here with Derek Carr.

825
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: Do we really want to believe in it? Trevor Penning

826
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about him is like, okay, it's this great

827
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: rejuvenation story pff as and ranked fifty eighth out of

828
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: seventy one qualifiers in terms of his pass protection. At

829
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: some point, they are gonna have to pass protect and

830
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: not just win.

831
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 2: You scored thirty.

832
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: All over the place.

833
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Cboa stat earlier that some of the

834
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: teams ahead of them on that list include the twenty

835
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: nineteen Patriots, remember them Tom Brady's last season there They

836
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: started out seven and zero. They totally petered out the

837
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins over the last few years. You remember, like

838
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: how they started a house on fire. You know, these

839
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: teams were interesting, they were kind of fun. They weren't

840
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: real Super Bowl contenders in the again, this is just

841
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: a fun story. Furthermore, the secuter went to Tulane and

842
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: had season tickets to the Saints back in the nineties,

843
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: So he's biased.

844
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: Can the judge and jury object here? And I'd like

845
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 4: to object to that.

846
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 5: I'm dying to see who wins. I hope it's okay.

847
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: So, mister Rosenthal, what you're saying is Derek Carr will

848
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: finally get a playoff win in.

849
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: This Yeah, correct, Okay.

850
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: I will say that the court did think coming into

851
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: the season that the Saints seem to be one of

852
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 4: the most boring teams in the NFL in terms of

853
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: pop and storylines and excitement, and then once the season started,

854
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: it's been the complete opposite. No offense has looked better now.

855
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak is being crowned as like the best play caller.

856
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 4: Derek Carr is being aggressive, he's taking shots down field.

857
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: Their offensive line can cover up some of those liabilities

858
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: in the past. Protection with the ground game that they have,

859
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: and Alvin Kamara has been insane. He's been great. Sure

860
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 4: the defense is older, but they're wiser. And you mentioned

861
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: so many of these players. Cam Jordan obviously is a

862
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: cornerstone of this defense, but don't.

863
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: Forget about to Mario Davis.

864
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: He seems to be one of the most underrated linebackers

865
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: in the entire league.

866
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: They're stacked with versatile dbs.

867
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 4: I can't decide how winnable this division is because the

868
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: Bucks and Baker Mayfield they look good again, and then

869
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 4: what the Falcons did to the Eagles.

870
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: Can't really talk about it. I shudder, I shudder.

871
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: But he's a super Bowl contender though, just the super

872
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: Bowl content super Bowl.

873
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: I hope you win this, Greg contender.

874
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: We judge and jury in the case of the Super

875
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: Bowl versus the New Orleans Saints find the Saints guilty

876
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: of being contenders.

877
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah you won.

878
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 5: Here we go Rosenthal v. Rosenthal.

879
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: What a joy?

880
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 4: What a win for you to watch Greg go at

881
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: Greg's I got to witness that.

882
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 5: I feel joy.

883
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: This is that team that's like, I don't I don't

884
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: know what to do with this, Like two weeks, and

885
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: that's why I was like, when I thought about them,

886
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: it's like you could present either side so strongly, but

887
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: they they have been fun.

888
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: Like it.

889
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: If you wanted to make a negative, maybe you could

890
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 1: say Clint Kobiat first week's Panthers, and then second week

891
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: is Mike Zimmer, a guy he saw operate in Minnesota

892
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: when he was his offensive coordinator for three years in

893
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: the building.

894
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: Uh, but they passed the eye test.

895
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 4: I like being so you know how much you love

896
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: the Saints too, Like when the state, when you talk

897
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 4: about New Orleans, it's just a whole separate thing.

898
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 5: I just think it's like, it's great to approach this

899
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: the same you would on like Pink Floyd on DVD

900
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 5: Papa Gummy and enjoy the ride.

901
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: Mmmmmm hm.

902
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: This team is fun, so fun.

903
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: Okay, we have a final case.

904
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: We're getting right up against it, so we're not gonna

905
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: take a whole lot of time on this one. I'm

906
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: just going to throw that out there right now. It

907
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: is the postseason versus the NFC West.

908
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: I believe it was.

909
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: Roderick correct, and I think there's been a shift in

910
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 5: hierarchy due to the combination of multi week injuries suffered

911
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: by previous favorites Rams and forty nine ers to key players,

912
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: and a increase in productivity and performance and excitingness excitabilityness

913
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 5: in the Seahawks and the Arizona Cardinals. I am arguing

914
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 5: today to the judge, the jury and also against Greg

915
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 5: that the Seahawks and the Cardinals are going to be

916
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 5: the premier teams in the NBA WHOA down the stretch.

917
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 5: And I also wonder, Judge Connie, if weeks twelve and fourteen,

918
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 5: we'll even decide the NFC West Coals to teams play

919
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 5: each other, and again in consideration of old TI week

920
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 5: losses to previous favorite star players. Gino Smith is playing

921
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 5: lights out. He had probably his best game. Greg and

922
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 5: I were texting about it when I was watching. Greg

923
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 5: was talk you know, it just was like one of

924
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 5: those do you like set a match in and just

925
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 5: like light it off and it just goes right and

926
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 5: so but he played with and I even text him

927
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 5: I said, I like to kind of keep an unbiased,

928
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 5: like middle perspective when I'm looking at quarterbacks. And I

929
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: felt alive watching Giano Smith play this last week. He

930
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 5: was pressured so fast at nearly constantly on his dropbacks,

931
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 5: but he showed no rattle, good decision, good decisions, mostly sharp,

932
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 5: really clean throws. The manipulation and the control he showed

933
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 5: over the way that they go tempo, the way that

934
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 5: they move around some of the formations in that offense.

935
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 5: He's feeding the ball around to multiple receivers. Ninth in

936
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: EPA per play through two weeks, per drop back for

937
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: two weeks, and fifth despite that pressure and success rate

938
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 5: fifty one point three percent. And then there's Kyler Murray

939
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 5: and the Cardinals offense, and that, by the way, the

940
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 5: Seahawks defense will keep growing up. The adjustments Mike McDonald

941
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 5: made at halftime against New England I thought were really impressive.

942
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 5: They basically took away the only way they were getting gashed.

943
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: And they said, all right, you're gonna run the ball

944
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 5: against us. We understand that we're going to take away

945
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 5: your passing game. And then by moving some different assignments around.

946
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 5: And then Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals. You know,

947
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 5: I don't know that the defense will sustain what it

948
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: did against a very depleted RAMS team, but this offense

949
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 5: is built not just to win right now, but also

950
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 5: to win in November and December and January and February

951
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 5: because of all the different ways that they can run

952
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 5: the probery and the way that Kyler Murray can create

953
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 5: on the run. I've not seen him play like this

954
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 5: in person yet, and he is. He is alive in

955
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 5: Drew Petson's offense. Drew Petson calls a smart game. He

956
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 5: understands how to attack defenses, and they're moving this heavy

957
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 5: personnel run game all around the line in terms of

958
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 5: their attack points on these defenders. Yes, the Rams defensive

959
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 5: line is terrible and it showed on in this game,

960
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 5: but they can do this to opponents we've seen. We've

961
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 5: seen this down the back half of last season and

962
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 5: they came out swinging. I think that these two teams

963
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: are are taking over as the premier teams in the

964
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 5: NFC West parts this year alone. And Kyler is third

965
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: in EPA per drop back in the NFL zero point

966
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 5: four zero and then success percentage. He's also third fifty

967
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 5: four point seven success rate on passing plays. I mean,

968
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 5: that's just outstanding through two games. I understand, but the

969
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 5: way that these guys play is sustainable.

970
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: You're honor.

971
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: The prosecutor has a case of having too much dip

972
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: on her chip.

973
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean she said February.

974
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: Well, let me be clear. Let me be clear, February Claire,

975
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 5: you can they order order my god, maybe clear. So

976
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 5: we're not misleading here. Running the ball in that fashion

977
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 5: is what wins you give.

978
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: The only way you can play in February is if

979
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: you were going to make the Super Bowl. And I

980
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: can understand saying that the Seahawks are a real pro

981
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: season threat. I agreed with that before the season even started,

982
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: but to essentially replace the forty nine Ers with the

983
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: Cardinals is a step too far. This defense is very

984
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: shorthanded up front and on the back end, two very

985
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: important parts of your defense. I would say, among the

986
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: least talented defenses in the entire NFL. Totally agree that

987
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: it could be a sneaky playoff contender, but that doesn't

988
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: mean that the forty nine ers are going to fall apart.

989
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Despite all the injuries for the forty nine ers, may

990
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: I present honor some players still on the field for

991
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Sure, Brandon Ayuk second team All

992
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: Pro last year. Juwan Jennings sneaky great wide receiver in

993
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: terms of blocking, Trent Williams, the best tackle on the planet.

994
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: All these players would be better than just about anyone

995
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: on the Cardinals except for Kyler Murray. Hey, how about

996
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback who led the number one EPA P play

997
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL last year and delivered series after

998
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: series in the freaking Super Bowl when he needed to

999
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: to try to win the Super Bowl.

1000
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: That's brock Perty He's still around.

1001
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: George Kittle, Nick Bosa, like Fred Warner, these are all pros,

1002
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: after all pros. This team has had injuries before tar

1003
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: various words, and they have a great coaching staff, including

1004
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Sanahan. I hear you on the whole Seahawks. I

1005
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: even like so acquiesced the Seahawks. It's not the Cardinals, says.

1006
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: He even says the real postseason threats. I would even

1007
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: go with Seahawks. Cardinals and forty nine ers are real posts.

1008
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 5: I would agree with that.

1009
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: But wording is important in the courtroom, and I think

1010
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: it was just a little.

1011
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: To lose, especially when that February well came out.

1012
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 5: Okay, the February word that was disinterpreted by my opponent

1013
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 5: here by the way, I'll allow it.

1014
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: I will allow it.

1015
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 5: If not they've not dealt with They've dealt with injuries, yeah,

1016
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 5: but they've not dealt with achilles tendonitis for their star player.

1017
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. That's that's a sketchy one.

1018
00:50:59,520 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: All right.

1019
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: Well, I think the Cardinals and the Seahawks they are

1020
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 4: for sure real threats in the division, partially because they

1021
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 4: are healthy right now.

1022
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 3: The Rams have just been obliterated with injuries.

1023
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: This is already Sean mcvay's what first time starting zero

1024
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 4: to two, probably oh to three because they're playing the

1025
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 4: Niners this week, but you know, we'll see crazier things

1026
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 4: have happened.

1027
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: San Francisco feels a.

1028
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 4: Little bit off, but I would like to attribute that

1029
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 4: to the injuries. Jordan Mason has done an admirable job,

1030
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 4: admirable job.

1031
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: Filling in for Christian McCaffrey, but just obviously not the

1032
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 3: same the defense.

1033
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 4: We'll still keep them in games, but maybe maybe they're

1034
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: not the threat that we thought they were. But I'm

1035
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 4: just saying as where we stand right now after two weeks.

1036
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: The Seahawks, though, that defense looks completely different from last season.

1037
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: They are so aggressive, they're flying to the ball. Like

1038
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: you said, those halftime adjustments were insane. That defensive line

1039
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 4: is so good when they are healthy. They are absolutely

1040
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 4: stacked with talent. And then Gino Smith he is supremely underrated,

1041
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: Greg and I at.

1042
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: This point it's not even underrated.

1043
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: Well everyone, well, not in this not in this courtroom.

1044
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: The Cardinals are absolutely electric with Kyler Murray at this point,

1045
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: and I haven't seen him play this well in years

1046
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: and years. Watching that game on Sunday, he looked so good.

1047
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: The offense was insane. The way it moved so well.

1048
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 4: It reminded me of some of those games where Kyler

1049
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: Murray would pull out like a hail Mary at this

1050
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: like right at the end, I.

1051
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 3: Feel like it was like how many years ago was

1052
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: before against.

1053
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: The Bills, who he also got one yes at.

1054
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: The defense is a potential week spot though for the Cardinals.

1055
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 3: That's where I start to worry. But they are all.

1056
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: Over the place in Week two making plays against the

1057
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: Rams when you go back and watch the film, so

1058
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 4: maybe Gannon has them cooking and can elevate the ceiling

1059
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: on them. But we the jury and the judge in

1060
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: the case of the postseason versus the NFC West, we

1061
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 4: find the Cardinals and Seahawks not guilty of rising to

1062
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 4: the top of the division, and it is because I

1063
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: am split with the Cardinals and the Seahawks. I think

1064
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: the Seahawks will rise up in the division, but I

1065
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: still believe in the Niners, So I think it'll end

1066
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 4: up being somewhere between the Seahawks and the Niners up top,

1067
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: and then Cardinals and Rams.

1068
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 5: Can't can't truly argue with the honorable judge and respected jury.

1069
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 3: That is corrected this courtroom.

1070
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that the the forty nine ers are always dangerous,

1071
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 5: even when you think they're not right, they are always dangerous.

1072
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 5: I agree with that. I just think they're in a

1073
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 5: bit of uncharted territory with the amount of time that

1074
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 5: some of these players, some of the situation, particularly with stars,

1075
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 5: might be able to just hinder their their season, delay

1076
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 5: their progress a little bit. You know, you catch momentum

1077
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: at the right time in this league. That's that's important.

1078
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 5: And by the way, the Cardinals, the Cardinals the way

1079
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 5: that they were, I technically still won this because you

1080
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 5: argued against yourself.

1081
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 3: So it's like it's a fair point.

1082
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 5: So the Cardinals the way that they're they're able to

1083
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 5: run the ball. The multiplicity with the way they're able

1084
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: to run the ball, that's gonna just smother people. That's

1085
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 5: that's reminiscent of the Kyle Shanahan suffocation forty nine Ers.

1086
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 5: That's just darkness right there. Like, that's that's gonna take

1087
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 5: this team to the postseason. Regardless of what they're doing.

1088
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 5: It does not matter how sheer defense is, if you

1089
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 5: could play keep away from the other side, which is

1090
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 5: what they almost did to the Bills and what they

1091
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 5: will continue to try to do two opponents down the stretch.

1092
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: I do remember that forty nine Ers team from a

1093
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: couple of years ago twenty twenty one, that started three

1094
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: and five and they were a dropped interception in the

1095
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game against the Rams from making the Super

1096
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Speaker 1: Bowl that year and having a real chance to win it.

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Speaker 1: I think of their team last year that lost a

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Speaker 1: couple games in the middle of the season in a row.

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Speaker 1: Granted they had a little cushion in terms of their

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Speaker 1: record at that point, but they lost a couple games

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Speaker 1: in a row when they had injuries.

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Speaker 4: Their offensive line is also struggling outside of Trent, Like

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Speaker 4: I just I'm wondering if we're going to see more

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00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 4: of these bad games from Rock Purty too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might have been a Brian Florest thing.

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Speaker 1: They'll have a much better matchup this week against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Other the Rams always find a way to play them close.

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Speaker 1: This will be a challenge.

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Speaker 2: All right, Judge.

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Speaker 1: Connie, I respect you, I admire.

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Speaker 3: I got to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: It's one I'm looking forward to U season three. Get

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Speaker 1: that syndication deal going. We will be back after this

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Speaker 1: a little quick break and we're going.

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Speaker 2: To do a t F review. Jets and Patriots.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's time for our TNF preview presented by

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Speaker 1: Prime Video. It's the Patriots heading to the Meadowlands to

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Speaker 1: face the New Jersey Jets.

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Speaker 2: Almost said Nets.

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful to the Patriots for showing up these first

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00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and being a representative interesting football team

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00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: and making this Thursday night football rivalry game interesting. I

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00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: know they wanted to put the Patriots early. They don't

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Speaker 1: have any other Prime times like before the bottom fell out,

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Speaker 1: and they look like a real team to me. I

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00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: am concerned, Calleen that their passing game is as bad

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00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: as expected. Yeah, actually, like I know, they got Hunter

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Speaker 1: Henry over one hundred yards last week, but any measurement

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00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: you want to look at, or any eyeball tests that

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00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 1: that I've been looking at. In terms of the past protection,

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00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: it is that big of a problem that you know,

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00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: when your left tackle gets benched and then thinks about

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00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: retiring and leaves the team like, that's.

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00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 4: Usually Tante Sarka would never Yeah, it's usually a bad sign.

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 1: They're twenty eighth in yards per play, they are dead

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00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: last in past block win rate, second worst pressure rate allowed,

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00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: and their average separation is twenty eighth. So when I

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00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: watched this film, Jacoby Brissette I think has played well enough.

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00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: He hasn't been the issue.

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00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of open receivers here, and it's

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00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: a tough matchup against a Jets secondary where they've you know,

1142
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: they've got the player sas Gardner and DJ Reid and CJ. Moseley,

1143
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: by the way, are all considered kind of day to

1144
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: day and might be game time decisions.

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00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: So that's a big factor here.

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00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: But if they're healthy, this is a Jets team that

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00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: I think can feel with confidence we can just man

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00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: up against your receivers.

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00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: What about Ramandre Stevens.

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00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: Okay, and there we go.

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00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: That's the strength that's this is the strength of the team.

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: They are run heavy. Now he's the entire offense, Ramandre Stevenson.

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00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: This is the second straight week he had twenty plus carries,

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00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 4: and that's where the Jets are susceptible on the ground,

1155
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 4: allowing an average of one hundred and fifteen yards per

1156
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: game through these two so like four point five yards

1157
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 4: per carry. Also the six most receiving yards to opposing runners,

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 4: which not Remandre's wheelhouse, but that could mean that Antonio

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00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 4: Gibson gets involved too. So if they're going to have success,

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: it's going to be on the ground. I don't know

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00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 4: how viable that will continue to be because defenses will

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00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: obviously be keying.

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00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: But it's like right.

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00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 4: Now, it's been working for them and they're exciting, and

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00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: obviously Jacoby Brissett he's limited in what he can do.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that the Jets have shown a capability

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00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 5: of king in against to stop the run. They've just

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00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 5: been really porous in terms of allowing that significant volume

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00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 5: is something like one hundred and thirty yards allowed in

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 5: week two, one hundred and eighty yards allowed in week one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's just an enormous amounts of holes found

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00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 5: by these running backs. And I think that if you

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00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 5: are trying to keep the ball out of Aaron Rodgers' hands,

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00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 5: which you should be, because even though he's clearly still

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 5: kind of getting back to his physical form, looked better

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00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 5: last week. They also helped him out a lot with

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 5: the quick game, helped mitigate some of their own offensive

1178
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 5: line issues with the quick game. We'll get to that

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00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 5: in a minute, But if you're trying to play keep

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00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 5: away from Aaron Rodgers, your game plan has to be

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00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 5: to load up and run the ball. If you're the Patriots,

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 5: and there really is not another And to add to

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Speaker 5: the list to Michael Carter with the ankle right also

1184
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 5: to me one of the best inside corners in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: He's dealing with the ankle and he's limited this week

1186
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 5: so and he's also been managing it so he's he

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00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 5: might not play a full snap count. So again, if

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00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 5: you are again shorthanded, even on the inside and the

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00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 5: linebacker situation, you're really going to have to like smash

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Speaker 5: the ball into this Jets front because they shoul haven't

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Speaker 5: proved that they can stop.

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Speaker 1: It, and they're without Jermaine Johnson, who tours Achilles. There

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Speaker 1: obviously without Hassan redsk so sad. Yeah, that's really sad,

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Speaker 1: and mostly to me is so important for what they do.

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Speaker 2: I misspoke earlier.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you corrected when I said sas Gardner is

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01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: Michael Carter, who would be kind of a game time

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01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: decision potentially for this. So that's really important. But again,

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Speaker 1: Vermandri's playing so well. Antonio Gibson had one of the

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Speaker 1: best games of his career. I've always been an Antonio

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Speaker 1: Gibson fan from his days in Washington, and it kind

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: of got like worse and worse, and like breaking tackles

1203
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: is not exactly an offense, but that's basically what they've

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Speaker 1: been doing. It hasn't been that the run blocking has

1205
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: been great. It's been up and down. But they do

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01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: have some plays where they look like they kind of

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Speaker 1: know what they're doing. And I do love that they'll

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Speaker 1: break out seven offensive linemen at once. They'll just go

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: crazy jumbo, They'll go six offensive linemen at once, like

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Speaker 1: that's who they are. They're trying to keep it close,

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Speaker 1: and you can win that way if you don't make

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Speaker 1: mental mistakes, which they did in the fourth quarter in

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Speaker 1: overtime of that game before for that, they played three

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Speaker 1: really clean quarters and we're this close to the you know,

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01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: being two and oh, I mean they they're in field

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01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: goal range with four minutes left to go, you know,

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: up up three, with a chance to maybe go up ten.

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Speaker 1: So they've done a lot of good things their defense.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that matchup against the Jets offense and Rogers.

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Speaker 1: Can they get any pressure on Rogers? Rogers is four

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Speaker 1: for ten for twenty six yards against pressure, and you

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01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: might be saying, like, well, that's not very good. That's

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: obviously at the bottom of like any sort of metrics

1224
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: you want to look at. But the thing that stands

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01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: out to me is ten that he's only been pressured

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Speaker 1: on ten plays. He also has zero passes this year

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Speaker 1: outside the tackle box, so like no creation. So a

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01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of the things we said about Kirk Cousins coming

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Speaker 1: out of week one are true to the other guy

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01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: coming off of torn Achilles. It's just not quite as dramatic.

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01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: But when you guys watch him, does he look like

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01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? No, because the old Aaron Rodgers created now

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01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers I think's been better than the Kirk and

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Speaker 1: I are in terms of he's getting rid of the ball.

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Speaker 1: And I do have more faith in the Jets winning

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01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: this game because of the second half of that game

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01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: that they did kind of lock down defensively in terms

1238
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: of their run Stoppy and Rogers made three or four

1239
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: just fantastic one on one throws to his receivers, and

1240
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Speaker 1: I came out of that game thinking like, Okay, the

1241
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 1: second half of that game, like he got his mojo back.

1242
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: We'll see if that continues. But I felt a lot

1243
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: better about him after watching that.

1244
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm just writing down, okay for Patriots to load

1245
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 5: up and run ball, not okay for Chargers to load up.

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01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, all right, all right, freaking Herbert and the.

1247
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 5: You lost your mind there for a second to do that.

1248
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 5: You lost your mind there it worked. I do think

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01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 5: to your Rogers.

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01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: One got like my my grandfather is ninety one, super you.

1251
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 3: Want to take a lap.

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01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's got like a Ferrari Greg.

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01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So to your point, yes, they are helping

1254
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 5: him to and maybe Aaron is helping himself if he's

1255
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 5: like calling this, calling these games right, but kind of it,

1256
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 5: he probably exactly. But the quick game that they're using,

1257
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 5: it's helping him. It's not just helping avoid that pressure.

1258
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 5: It's obviously keeping his air yardage pretty short, which is

1259
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 5: strange to see from Aaron Rodgers. It's only five passes

1260
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 5: over ten air yards, which is the third lowest for

1261
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 5: him since twenty sixteen per season. Only five Yeah, per

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01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 5: next My god, that's so.

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01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: But they're going three of them were dimes that Yeah,

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: he can still down the Garrett.

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01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 5: He can still he can still do it, but they're

1266
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 5: clearly trying to protect him and get him into a

1267
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 5: rhythm as he gets his like literal legs back under him.

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01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 5: So this was interesting again per next Gen eighteen passes

1269
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 5: under two and a half seconds, getting the ball out

1270
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 5: super fast. When thirteen of eighteen for one hundred and

1271
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 5: twenty five yards and two touchdowns downs in this last game,

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 5: and you know, it's it's interesting because that mitigates pressure

1273
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 5: on the offensive line. I don't I'm not confident that

1274
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 5: the Jets can amass or excuse me, I'm not. I'm

1275
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 5: not confident that that's going to make such a difference

1276
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 5: in this game, in the state of the Jets offensive line.

1277
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 5: But I think that, you know, getting him into a

1278
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 5: rhythm like that and getting him like feeling good, feeling

1279
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: like moving, feeling like things are clicking. I think you'll

1280
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 5: start to see him open up a little bit more.

1281
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is the game to do it, though,

1282
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 5: because you know you're trying to just get a clean

1283
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 5: win out of this one.

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Speaker 4: I do think that Bristol and maybe even Braylan Allen

1285
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 4: are the focal point. It's a ball control offense and

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 4: they're sort of saving Rogers for those big third downs

1287
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 4: and like the end of half plays, and Garrett Wilson

1288
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 4: he still hasn't scored a touchdown yet. There's like different

1289
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,479
Speaker 4: things I think that you can point to with both

1290
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: of these teams. How the Jets defense can just blow

1291
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 4: things up, and it's something that they should be able

1292
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 4: to do against the Patriots this week with that offensive line,

1293
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 4: that defront going up against the Patso line, which the

1294
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: pats O line for so long was like they're strong

1295
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 4: suit in Foxborough. And so now I kind of I'm

1296
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 4: just looking at both run games because both teams are

1297
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 4: sort of shifting to a run first approach, so it's

1298
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 4: gonna be which one has the ball longer.

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01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: So the Patriots I think will play them similarly to

1300
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: the Titans, which is the Titans didn't stack the box

1301
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: like Breese Hall is Love and Life with Aaron Rodgers.

1302
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: That is the difference between this year and last year

1303
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: in terms of like what they're running game is facing

1304
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: in The Patriots lost Juwon Bentley, who's a good run

1305
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: stopper for them, and they will count on their guys

1306
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: to just do it. But if I had to pick

1307
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: a defense in this game, like which defense do I

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Speaker 1: trust more, it's close. They're both veteran groups that have

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Speaker 1: played together a while. I think Jeron Meo has done

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Speaker 1: some really good disguises in terms of how they change

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Speaker 1: before the snap and after the snap played. Ken White

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Speaker 1: has four sacks this season, a lot of really quick

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Speaker 1: pressures last week too, and they they play like a

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Speaker 1: veteran group that's in sync. I think that the Jets

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Speaker 1: do two on the back end, but I think the

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Speaker 1: Patriots actually a little better up front.

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Speaker 2: I brought up the.

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Speaker 1: Line here while we were talking because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what it is, because I'm confident the Patriots

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Speaker 1: are just gonna ugly this thing up and keep it close.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I think these two teams have looked

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Speaker 1: pretty average. If you look at like the DVOA through

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Speaker 1: two weeks. I know it's only two weeks. They're both

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Speaker 1: just right in the middle of the NFL. That's how

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Speaker 1: they've played, and so I would think they'd keep it close.

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Speaker 1: So six and a half to me is way too

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Speaker 1: much for the Jets. I like the Patriots to keep

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Speaker 1: it close, but the Jets to ultimately win in a

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Speaker 1: matchup where man, even at the very end of the

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Speaker 1: Belichick era, the Jets were struggling to ever find wins

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots. So I do think they get one

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Speaker 1: here at home. But I like the Patriots to cover

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Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, I think not that you have to

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Speaker 1: pick that. I just found that interesting.

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Speaker 2: Six and a half. I feel pretty strong about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's too too much or I don't

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01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 5: really know how to describe this type of thing. You

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01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 5: explain this to me all the time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything else I could say. The Patriots

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Speaker 2: like if you can the.

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Speaker 5: Lines and the like, I don't. That's my huge weak spot.

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Speaker 5: But I do think that they're going to keep it

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Speaker 5: closer than what that says. I think because I think

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Speaker 5: they could win, because I think the Patriots are going

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01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 5: to go keep trying to play keep away from Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: Like I said at the very top, but I do

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Speaker 5: think the Jets are going to win this game.

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Speaker 3: Jets too, so we're sweeping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been.

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Speaker 5: I'm owing to by the way I am, I am

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01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 5: the curse.

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Speaker 3: Last week was a bad week for everyone.

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Speaker 1: I do think, Yeah, there are some matchup issues. Christian

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Speaker 1: Gonzalez is playing well in the secondary, but you know,

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01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: one on one, some of these Patriots cornerbacks I think

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Speaker 1: can be a little a little more of.

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Speaker 4: A what if the Patriots do win because things have

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01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 4: been so good for them unexpectedly, do we end up

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: seeing Drake May a little sooner than sooner?

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Speaker 5: Not with that line, No way I will know.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the best of both worlds for them.

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Speaker 2: They're like being it.

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Speaker 1: They're confirming why they're not playing him in a way,

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Speaker 1: and they're setting the foundation and they're winning some games and.

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Speaker 5: They're literally like why is everyone yelling? We're right?

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Speaker 2: That is awesome?

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Speaker 1: And that was this week's TNF preview, presented by Prime Video.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to watch the New England Patriots take on

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets this Thereday on Prime Video Jordan

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Speaker 1: and Colleen.

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Speaker 2: What a day Judge Connie.

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Speaker 5: Colleen Pick said the judge. Okay, I'm just you know what,

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01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 5: I'm trying to curry points.

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Speaker 3: I know, but we're done. We're done in the courtroom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Judge Connie returning at some point. Yeah, we'll see

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Speaker 1: if it's a regular season thing postseason. Who knows. I

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Speaker 1: know I'm doing court for jury duty in a month.

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01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: That's not happening. So I got to figure out how

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01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: to get out of that because they've already delayed it

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Speaker 1: a couple of times. Thanks for watching NFL Daily. We

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Speaker 1: will be back on Thursday for our preview show. Excited

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Speaker 1: about that, Steve Weiss, Patrick Claybond every single week going

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Speaker 1: through every single team and game except for these TNF teams.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, looking forward to that and we will see

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Speaker 1: you guys next time when Judge Connie's in session.

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Speaker 2: You know that football is back.

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Speaker 3: Thanks bail Up.