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Now here's a highlight from Coast 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio, and we are back. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Rosemary Ellen Guiley joining us, author of dream Work for 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Visionary Living, talking to the Dead, she wrote that with 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: me Encyclopedia of Dreams and so many more. Rosemary, thanks 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: for joining us under this quickly late time preparation. Here 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: we put together. Well, always a pleasure, George, And what 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: better time to talk about dreams in the middle of 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: the night. I know it's perfect. Perfect everybody dreams, not 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: everybody remembers their dreams. How come well, we all have 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: different natural ways of recalling dreams, and some people are 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: very prolific, uh in their dream recall and and other 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: people really struggle to remember things like being interrupted during 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: the sleep cycle, our diet, medications, stress, all of these 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: can have an impact on our ability to recall dreams. 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: There are ways that we can train ourselves to remember 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: more of our dreams, but again it's um it varies 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: considerably by individual and and with these dreams, I mean 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: sometimes I've had dreams where, you know, I wake up 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: and I go, WHOA, was that real? And then you realize, no, 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: it was a dream. I mean, some dreams are so lifelike, 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: aren't they They are, They're very intense, and uh that 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: lucid dreams are very much like that, And that's uh 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: thinking you're awake while you're dreaming. And many dreams have 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: the quality of feeling very realistic. You can touch things, 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: you you feel like you're in waking life instead of dreaming. 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: And I think some of these dreams are actual experiences, 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: maybe in an alternate reality or the astral plane, and 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: others I think are just intense dreams for a variety 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: of reasons, usually emotional ones. When we first met years 40 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: ago on my local St. Louis show at the time 41 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: the Nighthawk. We talked about the book Dictionary of Encyclopedia 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: of Dreams, which you catalogued so many different kinds of dreams. 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: Will take phone calls next hour and help some people out. Um, 44 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: when you started doing this, what caught you into the 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: dream state? Why? Why did you research this? I got 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: interested in dreams very early in life, through psychic experiences 47 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: my own and in my family. But in particular, my 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: mother had a lot of precognitive dreams. Many of them 49 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: were unpleasant because they dealt with accidents and deaths that 50 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: were about to happen to people she knew. But when 51 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: she started talking to me about these dreams, I was 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: an adolescent then, and I was just fascinated by the 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: idea that we could dream a future reality that was 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: going to come to pass. So I started studying about 55 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: dreams and paying attention to them. I started experimenting with 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: my own dreams because I read that you could actually 57 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: send messages to people and get messages. You could go 58 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: out of body and dreams. And I had enough success 59 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: with these dream exercises at night and with friends that 60 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: it convinced me that dreams are one of one of 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: the most important states of consciousness we can be and 62 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: we spend about a third of our lives sleeping and 63 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: a good part of that time dreaming. And what are 64 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: we doing during that time? We are having experiences that 65 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: are meaningful to us in waking life. Let's go through 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: the very as categories of dreams again and talk specifically 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: about what they are. Generally, how many different kinds of 68 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: dreams are They're out there. Well, many of our dreams 69 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: are anxiety dreams, and that stands to reason because the dream, 70 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: the dreaming mind does a lot of processing while we sleep, 71 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: and we uh we take our stresses and concerns into 72 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: the dream state. So many dreams reflect that, and that's 73 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: a mirror that tells us how we feel we're doing 74 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: in life. So dreams like falling, having your teeth fall out, 75 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: being naked in public, having the wrong clothes on at 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: an event, they're very common. Stress and anxiety dreams, and 77 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: people have those quite frequently, and they tend to mean 78 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: the same things to broad numbers of people, whereas other 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: dreams are highly unique to the individual. They incorporate a 80 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: lot of general and widely understood symbols that they put 81 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: them together in a unique and personal way for a 82 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: message for the dreamer. You mentioned lucid DREAMNA. That of course, 83 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: is the ability to realize that you're in a dream. 84 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: You can change the outcome of that dream, can't you. 85 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: Many people can. For some people, as soon as they 86 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: realize that UM they're they're in a lucid dream, they 87 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: lose the lucidity UM. Typically, in a lucid dream of 88 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: you can do things like levitate or fly or or 89 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: um transport yourself to a place that you want to be. 90 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: You have volition in the dream. You're not a passive 91 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: participant in the dream, but you're directing the dream. Many 92 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: researchers feel that lucid dreaming is a particular state of 93 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: consciousness that awakens dormant potential in the brain for creativity 94 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: and even healing. And I do believe that UM in general, 95 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: the human capacity to dream lucidly UH is one of 96 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: our evolutionary tracts and will increase as we develop. I've 97 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: used dreams to accomplish all kinds of things, Rosemary, and 98 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: what I do, my technique can tell me if I'm right. 99 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: Seems to be working for me. You know, I'll go 100 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: to sleep, but right before I go to sleep, I'm 101 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: thinking of the project or the thing I wanted to accomplish, 102 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: or the individual that I want to you know, notify 103 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: or get involved and you know, get them to understand 104 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: what I'm working on. And so I go to sleep 105 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: thinking about that and lo and behold no not at 106 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: ten times it works, It really does. George and I 107 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: have been teaching techniques like that to people for four years. 108 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: Proactive dreaming. Amazing things can be accomplished by setting intentions 109 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: before we go to sleep to have our dreaming mind 110 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: do a lot of workforce. And I've used those techniques 111 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: just like you myself for years about my book projects 112 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: and things that I want to accomplish. UM dreams go 113 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: beyond time and space. So uh, they're like a radar 114 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: beam that sweeps sweeps the future, you know, things that 115 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: are going to be happening for us, UM ideas, and 116 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: they help us make decisions. We get uh, you know, 117 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: clear guidance in dreams. And the more we pay attention 118 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: to dreams and do exactly that set some intention before 119 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: we go to sleep, the more our dreams actually work 120 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: for us. My other favorite dreams are pre cognitive dreams. 121 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: The ability to foresee things in the future. How many 122 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: people have this capability, It's really not known, but I 123 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: would suspect that, Um, most people have precognitive dreams throughout 124 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: their lives, and they're about personal issues rather than big 125 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: things that are happening in the news headlines. And a 126 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: small number of individuals dream precognitively regularly. We just simply 127 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: don't know what the percentage is. I think we all 128 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: have the capability. Uh, everyone can tell a dream story 129 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: about how they dream something that then actually happened. When 130 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: we have major events in the headlines. Uh, that's when 131 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: a lot of stories really come out about natural disasters, hurricanes, 132 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: tidal waves, nine eleven, terrorist attacks, um, major events that 133 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: affect large numbers of people. It seems that end math, 134 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: we start tuning into those events, shaping up before they 135 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: actually happen. Dreams such a powerful event. They're they're there 136 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: to help us? Are they are they also there? Can 137 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: they hurt us? I'm not quite sure what you mean 138 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: how they hurt? Well, we know how they help us, 139 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: but I mean, could there could something happen in a 140 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: jury that could hurt you? Could you die in a dream, 141 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: for example? Well, there is a old folklore that says 142 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: if if you dream of yourself UM, seeing it like 143 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: seeing yourself dead, or you die in a dream, it 144 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: it portends your your own death. And that is not 145 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: true because death in a dream is often symbolic. It's 146 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: about something that needs to come to an end in life. 147 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: But from a paranormal perspective, there is another type of 148 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: dream called dream invasion, and these happen to people who 149 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: have negative spirit attachments or they're living in a very 150 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: unpleasantly haunted location, and certain entities have the capability of 151 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: invading people's dreams and causing nightmares. What is rem sleep time, Well, 152 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: that's rapid eye movement, and we do dream UM in 153 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: rapid eye movement stages. UM. We go through a number 154 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: of stages when we sleep and dream. We go into 155 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: alpha and UM. Delta is actually the deepest stage of sleep, 156 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: and it's a dreamless stage, and we're more likely to 157 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: be dreaming in these other lighter stages of sleep. We 158 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: do also dream in non r e m UH. These 159 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: things have been documented in laboratory studies and there there 160 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: are differences in UH these types of dreams. Some dreams 161 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: tend to be more active, have a lot of colors 162 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: and vivid qualities to them. Uh. And other dreams in 163 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: other stages of sleep might be more fragmentary, um, more 164 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: difficult to um you know, remember in any detail. And 165 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: here again a lot depends on the individual. Can you 166 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: can you heal someone or yourself in a dream? There 167 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: are many cases documented in the literature, the dream literature 168 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: and in the medical literature where people say that they 169 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: have been healed in their dream state. Cases where individuals 170 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: have been facing even serious or catastrophic illness and they 171 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: have a dream experience where usually a spiritual figure of 172 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: some sort, like an angel or a religious figure UM 173 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: comes into their presence and brings this light and healing energy, 174 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and they experience themselves being healed in the dream and 175 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: then uh in later in the waking state. Uh. Then 176 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: there are cases where people have been medically documented to 177 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: be free of their condition. I've always wondered if governments have, 178 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: because we do know they have a psychic remote viewing 179 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: spy network, if they have people who do nothing but 180 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: dream to try to enter somebody else's dream, maybe to 181 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: do harm, maybe to get information. But do you think 182 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: the government is involved in that? I would have to 183 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: think so, George, I would be very surprised if not, 184 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: because the ability to manipulate dreams has been known since 185 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: ancient times, and these old techniques called dreams sending are 186 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: all about sending information or influence or a message to 187 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: people while they sleep, because it has been believed since 188 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: ancient times that that's when many people are more receptive. 189 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: So in ancient times, people called upon the gods and 190 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: spirits to be the message bearers to take certain messages 191 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: to people, and today we just do it more directly. 192 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: But if you want to try and influence someone, um 193 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: trying to approach them through dreams would be one of 194 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: those ways. 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