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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Production of High Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: Anne Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we're talking

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Speaker 1: about grapefruit. Yes, something several of you listeners have suggested

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Speaker 1: recently because of some articles that have come out about

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Speaker 1: how grape fruit interacts with certain medications. So thank you

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Speaker 1: as always for the suggestions. Yeah, yeah, um, and I

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Speaker 1: used to hate grape fruit. It used to be on

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Speaker 1: things that I didn't like, but now it's been moved off.

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Speaker 1: I love it, um. Yeah. And I'm on a bit

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Speaker 1: and cocktails. Yeah. Yes, I do feel like it's a

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Speaker 1: quote New Year's food and we are, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: approaching a new Year. I know. I already had to

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Speaker 1: plan OUTTI and I was like, oh no, that's weird. Nope, yep,

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Speaker 1: I know. Um, because grape fruit has been so frequently

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Speaker 1: associated with weight loss, it's certainly the first thing I

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say, if you're doing a resolution other

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Speaker 1: than make this year better than twenty twenty, more power

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Speaker 1: to you. You're doing better than me. My therapist even

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Speaker 1: said she's advising people to make really a low key resolution.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's a really good of your therapist

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Speaker 1: to be doing. I'm very happy that that's what's up.

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Speaker 1: Um uh see, I totally When when you were saying, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like like a grapefruit is more of a New Year's thing,

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Speaker 1: maybe I was like what why? But then now that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the diet thing, I'm like, oh, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just don't associate it with them with dieting. I know

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Speaker 1: that it is like considered a diet food and certainly

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Speaker 1: has been part of fad diets. But um, but I

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Speaker 1: grew up eating grapefruit for breakfast because it was delicious. Um.

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Speaker 1: And uh and yeah, I have more associated with that

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Speaker 1: So um. But yeah, that medication thing is a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing that I learned about. Um. We'll we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it more a couple of times, um throughout

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Speaker 1: the rest of this episode. But we've done we've done

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Speaker 1: other citrus fruits before. Um, we did the orange for sure.

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Speaker 1: What else have we done? Did we do lemons or limes?

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Speaker 1: What have we done. We did lives, Oh there you go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like great fruit came up in a

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Speaker 1: few episodes, but probably in our Orange one, and I

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Speaker 1: think in our Fad Diet one, because I told Lauren,

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Speaker 1: I was like, have we already done great fruit? But

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Speaker 1: I would have remembered this medication thing because it's fascinating,

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, it really is. Yeah, which I guess

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Speaker 1: brings us to our question. Yeah, grapefruit, what is it? Well,

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Speaker 1: grapefruit is a large type of citrus fruit with both

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe six inches across. That's oh, I didn't look

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Speaker 1: up the conversion. What maybe like a fifteen centimeters. Sure,

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Speaker 1: let's call it that. Umu and citrus fruits are vehicles

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Speaker 1: for individually wrapped drops of juice. Really, I mean you

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Speaker 1: could call them that, sure, certainly, just it's I yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess that's what it is now, suckers,

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Speaker 1: um power. As I often say, we are the music

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Speaker 1: makers and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Um

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Speaker 1: grape fruit botanical name Citrus ex paradasey um. Grapefruits grow

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Speaker 1: on evergreen trees that that usually are grown to about

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Speaker 1: do better in warm um rainy climates. UM. They've got dark,

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Speaker 1: either alone or in clusters. That UM, when pollinated, will

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Speaker 1: develop this fruit with like a greenish skin that ripens

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Speaker 1: to a yellow to pink color. UM. That skin is

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Speaker 1: thin and full of these heavily scented, very aromatic oils UM.

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Speaker 1: And then under that contains this layer of spongy white

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Speaker 1: those little membranes with just to drop a juice in them, UM,

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Speaker 1: that are further protected by these outer membranes UM in

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Speaker 1: in these segments. Uh, sort of like a like a

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Speaker 1: Citrus are the three D pies of the fruit world. Um.

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Speaker 1: Uh that that juice and therefore the flesh of this

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Speaker 1: cooked down into jams or candies. The peel can also

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Speaker 1: it is more bitter and more floral flavored than the fruit,

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Speaker 1: So a little bit goes a long way there. Um.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of yes, so what about the nutrition. Uh,

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Speaker 1: grape fruit is pretty good for you. Um. It's got

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Speaker 1: a good smattering of vitamins and minerals. Vitamins A and

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Speaker 1: you eat the pulp, that's some good fiber. Um. They

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Speaker 1: are sugary, but perhaps less so than many other fruits. Overall,

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Speaker 1: I'd say it's a good punch of flavor for a

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Speaker 1: low caloric load. Um, they'll they'll help fill you up, um,

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Speaker 1: lot of medical research about grape fruit out there, but

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Speaker 1: a lot more needs to be done. Some research has

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Speaker 1: indicated that great fruit may help control blood sugar levels

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Speaker 1: diabetes and cardiovascular diseases. Um. However, you should not eat

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Speaker 1: or drink grape fruit products if you're on certain medications

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Speaker 1: because grape fruit contains these compounds that can mess with

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Speaker 1: your body's uptake and break down of those medications. Like basically,

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Speaker 1: But um, yeah, more more on that, More on that

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Speaker 1: have much. But the US is the largest producer of

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Speaker 1: grape fruit. Primarily these grape fruit are grown in Florida

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Speaker 1: I've I've seen that China is the largest producer overall.

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Speaker 1: If if, if all you needed to know in this

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Speaker 1: I'm letting you down, or you're giving somebody an excellent

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Speaker 1: vengeance quest. You're gonna a whole life is going to

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Speaker 1: be defined by them. One day they listen to this

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Speaker 1: food podcast. We're determined to get the number of grape

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Speaker 1: if this, if this kicks off your vengeance quest, then

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Speaker 1: you're welcome. Uh And and I'm sorry about the monster

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, I'm as deadily creating my own enemies. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But you know, then you're gonna have to work together

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Speaker 1: and you'll forge to like grudging relationship where you know

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Speaker 1: you guys that the talents and skills you each have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it'll work out. Yeah, Yeah, eventually there will

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Speaker 1: Um So yes, I'm excited. Now Great Fruit Food Podcast

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Speaker 1: Batman fan fiction. It needs to exist. If it doesn't already,

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Speaker 1: just the shame. We're gonna put a pin in that

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Speaker 1: for now, Yes, just for right now, because because we

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Speaker 1: do have some history for you. But first we've got

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Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you. So great

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Speaker 1: five million years ago, really really old. But the great

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Speaker 1: why it's confusing in a second. So young. The grapefruit

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Speaker 1: of the discovered written record. UM. Prior to that, it

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Speaker 1: may have been referred to as shadduck, the word for pomelo.

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Speaker 1: So again, confusion, confusion all around, yeah, all around the grapefruit.

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Speaker 1: In seventeen fifty, Griffith Hughes panda history of the fruits

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Speaker 1: that produced quote the forbidden fruit. In his words, um,

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Speaker 1: was describing grapefruit, while others they conducted this really intense

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Speaker 1: historical citrus research. UM and they believe that the golden

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Speaker 1: fruit juice, and it was the only thing that worked.

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Speaker 1: In his telling of the story, they tried a bunch

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Speaker 1: of things. Great fruit juice worked, so one group got

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Speaker 1: straight up great fruit juice while the other got great

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00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: fruit juice with alcohol. Both groups displayed about four times

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Speaker 1: higher the drug levels in their systems than what was

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Speaker 1: expected given the actual dosage. After isolating out other variables,

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00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: the only thing that could explain it was the grape

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Speaker 1: fruit juice. So Bailey decided to perform an experiment on himself,

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Speaker 1: since the drug he was testing wasn't dangerous at high levels.

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Speaker 1: Sure enough, the combination of the drug and grapefruit juice

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Speaker 1: produced five times the amount of the Druggnast system then

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Speaker 1: should have been present. Follow Up tests produced the same results.

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00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: Bailey eventually got to the bottom of it. Um Basically,

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Speaker 1: very very basically, it evolves an enzyme in the small

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Speaker 1: intestine that breaks down things too inactive forms, which drugmakers

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Speaker 1: take into account when calculating dosages, and a compound called

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Speaker 1: four ran o'coumerans, something that grapefruit has a lot of.

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Speaker 1: This compound shuts down those enzymes so that the body

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Speaker 1: has to produce a new ones, a process that can

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Speaker 1: take up to twelve hours. This means that all the

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Speaker 1: careful dosage calculations drug breakers did are gone. They're out

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Speaker 1: the window because they made those calculations expecting those enzymes

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Speaker 1: to be functioning properly. Just a cup of grapefruit can

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Speaker 1: do this. Yeah yeah, very very small amounts of grapefruit

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Speaker 1: juice can can shut down enough of those enzymes in

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Speaker 1: your body. And everyone has a different amount of these

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Speaker 1: enzymes to have an effect on certain drugs that you take,

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00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: because yeah, yeah, drugmakers just assume that those enzymes in

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Speaker 1: your small intestine are going to affect some of that drug.

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, so you can wind up with too

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Speaker 1: much of a drug entering your blood stream. Um And

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Speaker 1: the same enzyme is also found in the human liver

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Speaker 1: and large enough doses of grapefruit can affect its function

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Speaker 1: there too. Um So that not only are is more

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Speaker 1: of the drug going to be entering your blood stream

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00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: because the enzymes and your small intestine just kind of

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00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: like let it all, let it all out. They were

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00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, sure, go be free. Um But furthermore,

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00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: when it gets to your liver, those enzymes are shut

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Speaker 1: down there too, so um so, so the drug will

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00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 1: will will last longer in your system. Um, it's not

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Speaker 1: going to get broken down and flushed out of your

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Speaker 1: body um as quickly by your liver. So it's not

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Speaker 1: only a stronger effect, but it's also going on for longer. UM.

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Speaker 1: And you can also uh wind up with too little

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Speaker 1: of a drug in your system because of grapefruit, because

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Speaker 1: there are these other compounds and grapefruit that can block

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Speaker 1: the action of some chemical transporters. And these are the

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Speaker 1: proteins that allow certain compounds to get into your cells um.

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Speaker 1: And and this this applies to some medications like UM like,

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Speaker 1: for example, the allergy medication allegra um. Grapefruit will make

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Speaker 1: it less effective because it prevents it from getting into

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Speaker 1: your cells. UM. Other fruit juice is going to have

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Speaker 1: the same effect. Uh, it's it's wild. Wow, it is wild.

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Speaker 1: Grapefruit messes with over a hundred drugs, including some extreme

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00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: of common ones, varying from being a perfectly safe interaction

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Speaker 1: to an incredibly deadly one. UM. While there are no

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Speaker 1: real numbers, it is a safe gut guess that eating

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00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: great fruit has killed papal um. And I know two

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00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: people personally who stopped having great fruit for interactions with

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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: your medication. Yeah yeah, And I was thinking of like

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00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, and you just have the medication bottle and

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00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: has the like glass of presumably alcohol and like a

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Speaker 1: big X over it. What if we had like a

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00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: grape fruit on there. No, do not take with grape fruit,

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00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: which apparently is already a thing in Canada. It is

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Speaker 1: also in like the fine print of medication labels in

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Speaker 1: the United States, like you know that kind of like

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Speaker 1: mini booklet that you get kind of kind of like

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Speaker 1: stay back to your to your dread bag, your a

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00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: little little packet. Yeah, yeah, it will be in the

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00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: fine print in there. But I mean, if you like

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00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: me and just go, oh sure whatever, um uh, don't

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00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: do that. Um that should you should read that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But but be um. Yeah, I didn't include a list

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Speaker 1: of all the medications it can affect in here, because

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00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: it can affect like certain groups of medications, but not

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Speaker 1: every medication within that group, because the mechanisms through which

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00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: they work are different. Um that the molecules are different.

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00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: And so really the best thing to do, um, if

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00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: you're a savvy Internet human is to just google the

506
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: name of the medication and grapefruit and the Internet should

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00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: tell you. But if you have any concerns about any

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00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: medication ever, don't take my advice, ask your ask your

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Speaker 1: pharmacist or or other healthcare provider. Um uh because it

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Speaker 1: really it really UM depends on the drug in question

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00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: to know how dangerous this can be. For For some drugs,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a direct effect, like lowering your blood pressure

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00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: so much that you that you might pass out um

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00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: um or UM or may be suppressing an immune response

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00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: too hard for too long. UM. For other drugs, it

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00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: can be a secondary issue of like creating UM like

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Speaker 1: a like a like a build up of that drug

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00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: in your system to the point that it could cause

519
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: damage UM well, first of all to your muscles and

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00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: liver because they're the ones kind of dealing with it UM,

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00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: but secondarily to your to your kidneys as they wind

522
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: up working over time to to flush this stuff out,

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00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: so so bad times all around UM and can Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For for example, a lot of U S s R

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Speaker 1: I S selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors UM can be affected

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Speaker 1: by that. So if you're on anxiety or depression meds,

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00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: definitely watch out for that. UM. That's why I am

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Speaker 1: one of those humans who had to really cut back

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Speaker 1: my grapefruit intake, and I'm mad about it because I

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00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: love grapefruit. Um, because because I Hi, Hi, I'm on

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Speaker 1: a I'm I'm on like kind of a lot of

532
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: lexapro u because it helps with anxiety and depression and

533
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: I love that, um and uh, but I don't want

534
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: it to go wonky. So so I just choose to

535
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: not to not do to not do grape fruit related stuff,

536
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: and um, just say no to grapefruit. When I'm like

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00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: going through a cocktail list, like, I'll get like a

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00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: little bit palpably angry. I'll be like, why did you

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00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: put that delicious ingredient in there? Also, I know I

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00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: shouldn't really have not much booze while I'm on this medication,

541
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: but like in small doses, it's okay. You can kind

542
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: of manage it anyway. Um. Oh wow. Well, the most

543
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 1: dangerous experience I had with a grape fruit was also

544
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: my cousins. We were trying to they were trying to

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00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: teach me how to play golf, and I was using

546
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: a grapefruit and I swung and I you were using

547
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: a grapefruit, is it? Yeah? Well, they're just trying to

548
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: get me to hit it because I kept missing smaller,

549
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: get something bigger. But then I got juice in the

550
00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: eye and it career wow so so yeah so uh

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00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: so broken ankle and uh and next golf career are

552
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: But I still love you grapefruit. Um, I highly recommend

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00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: to anyone who's interested. I mean, like, like we say frequently,

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00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: you never know where the research will take you. Fascinating

555
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: and the headlines are hilarious, like oh yeah, the bizarre

556
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: grapefruit messing with your drugs or whatever. It's really fun.

557
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: So recommend yeah, yeah, take take it, take it into

558
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: due consideration. Uh, don't don't hate grape fruits with golf clubs,

559
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: and don't take them on top of medication without checking first. Yes,

560
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: one of those is more important than the other, but

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00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: I feel like both are worth saying. In the meantime.

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00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty much what we have to say about

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00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: grapefruit for today. It is Um. We do have some

564
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: listener mail for you, but first we've got one more

565
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor. And we're back.

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00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, and we're back with them.

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Speaker 1: This is a sour, puckery face the normal I guess

568
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: that would be more in the back of the throat. Um. Yeah,

569
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: I gotta work on my voice, my vocal work. But

570
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: you know we're all getting there. We're all getting there,

571
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: desert a rope. As Thanksgiving approaches, I can't help but

572
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: think about Annie's tradition of cheese giving, and it brings

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00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: to mind a story I'd like to share. At the

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00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: beginning of twenty I had a mountain of New Year's resolutions,

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00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: but sadly, given COVID lockdown, most of them have fallen

576
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: apart except what turned out to be my favorite. My

577
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: boyfriend and I decided was going to be our Year

578
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: of Cheese with the gold eat lots of different fancy

579
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: cheeses as off as possible. We started the project on

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00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: New Year's Day with a cheeseboard made up of those

581
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: little two dollar and discards from the fancy cheese counter

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00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: at Whole Foods, along with a detailed rating system for

583
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: the tasting so we could keep track of what we liked.

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00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: This worked out fantastically and we were so into it

585
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: that all through January and February we tried a new

586
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: cheese once a week every week, with no sign of

587
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: slowing down. Well fast forward through and all its stresses

588
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: and our New Cheese of Session turned into a real

589
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: comfort project, something to look forward to and all the

590
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: uncertainty and isolation. We got engaged back in March, and

591
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: since it happened during our year of jeese, we took

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00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: a picture of my newly blinged hand reaching into a

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00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: plate of extra cheesynchos to make it Instagram official, quite

594
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: the feat since I'm not left handed. And then once

595
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: it became clear that COVID would be pushing our original

596
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: wedding date, we threw together a cheese the aimed zoom

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00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: elopement ceremony in our living room, complete with cheese themed bunting, altar,

598
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: cheese earrings, cheese pins, and my close friend even sent

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00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: us a package of fancy cheese in the mail to

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00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: serve as our cheese plate wedding meal. Photos of the

601
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: event were only iPhone quality for obvious reasons, So when

602
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: I had our elopement announcements made, I had my best

603
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: friend do an artistic rendering of what our wedding wood

604
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: I have looked like in Cheeseland. My husband Brian in

605
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: a suit made of Swiss cheese with palapeno buttons, and

606
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: me and a gooey cheesy veil and chess both of

607
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: us sharing a plate of nachos as it should be

608
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: both of us in our happy places. Oh my gosh,

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00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: that is glorious. Um a congratulations. Yes, it sounds like

610
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: y'all have both really found like a worthy partner. Um. Yes,

611
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: uh that's that is so sweet. It is sweet. It's amazing,

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00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: and it sounds like your year of cheese has been

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00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: a real success. So I much much applaused to. Yes,

614
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: the invitations respectacular, all the pictures of spectacular. So thank

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00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: you so much for sharing that. Congratulations. Yes, more cheese

616
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: in your future, A beautiful, a beautiful future of cheese together. Um,

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00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: Heather wrote, I started your burger episode and got about

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00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: ten minutes into it when I had to pause to share.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Halifax Burger Week, usually in late March. For

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00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: a week, dozens of restaurants in Halifax will coax people

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00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: out of their houses in dreary. Nova Scotia winters with

622
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: the promise of delicious burgers. If you can think of it,

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Speaker 1: someone has put it on a burger. This event is

624
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: thrown as a fundraiser for feed Nova Scotia, the local

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00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: network of food banks, with a portion of sales donated

626
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: the brunt of COVID's first wave hit us here in March,

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00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: causing a postponement in this year celebrations, but did take

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00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: place in October of this year over ten days when

629
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: restaurants reopened. My fiance and I only made it to

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00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: one spot this year as we're not eating out as much,

631
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: but got to at least five of them last year.

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00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: I know people who ate at least twenty different burgers

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00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: over the week. Pro tip were stretchy pants. To give

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Speaker 1: you an idea of the scope of Burger Week, I

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Speaker 1: have included a link to this year's Burger Passport. The

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Speaker 1: passport is usually released a couple of weeks beforehand, and

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Speaker 1: it's crucial in planning a strategy for the week. I've

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Speaker 1: also attached some pictures of past burgers, including a doughnut burger.

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Speaker 1: Burger Week last year coincided with a local gourmet donut

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Speaker 1: shops birthday, so is born. The birthday burger a bacon

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Speaker 1: cheese burger with chipotle sauce with a glazed donut sliced

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Speaker 1: in half for a bun, complete with a candle. It

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Speaker 1: shouldn't work, but it does. We have several places to

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Speaker 1: get a good burger here anyway. But for a burger lover,

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Speaker 1: this week is better than Christmas. It's been growing in

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Speaker 1: popularity every year in the restaurant, to have been getting

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Speaker 1: more and more imaginative. Oh that sounds amazing. That's wonderful. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I love it Burger Week. I did get a burger

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Speaker 1: after we did that. We did Oh good, good good. Hey, No,

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's important. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I have since then. I think I got distracted by

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Speaker 1: some other food craving. But anyway, I'll get around to it. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was wonderful. Um. Thanks to both of

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