1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: Here are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with new risk in the Middle East. 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: A ship was attacked on the Strait of Horror Moves yesterday. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: It is the first reported strike since the interim peace 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: deal between the US and Iran went into effect last week. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: We get the very latest from Bloomberg Middle East correspondent 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Abira bu Omar in Dubai. 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: What we know from American sources is that they're not 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: pointing the finger just yet at Iran, but that could 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 4: be very likely the case. And it could be because 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 4: this ship, the middle sized ship that had passed through 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 4: the Strait of Removes, passed through through the waterway that 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: is closer to the Gulf of Alman or the part 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: of the strait that hugs the coast of Ahman, while 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: Iran has been trying to maintain the movement through the 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 4: coasts that are closer to its borders, to be able 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: to sort of maintain the movement in a way that 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 4: works in accordance with its own rules. 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's a bierrabo Omar reports The attack has led some 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: ship owners to review their exit plans, but traffic does 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: continue to move in both directions through the strait. President 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: Trump has not directly addressed the episode, but he says 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: Iran is focused on the peace process. 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 5: They want to make a deal with us very badly, 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 5: and we probably will. 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 6: I think we will. But the straighter is open. 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: President Trump spoke at a White House event with farmers 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: where he announced an eleven point one billion dollar aid 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: requests for the agriculture sector. President says Iran will use 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: its unfrozen assets to buy US wheed and soybeans. He 33 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: says that process will start pretty soon now. 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: Nathan to the latest on the other major war overseas. 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski has approved a forty day influence 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: operation to convince Russia to end the conflict. Zelenski gave 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: no details of the plan and opposed on social media, 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: made after he received a briefing from the head of 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: his security service on strikes against Russi targets. Ukraine has 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: recently intensified attacks on Russian energy and commodities infrastructure, prompting 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: President Vladimir Putin to call for stronger air defenses. 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Well Karenamassive rescue and recovery effort continues in Venezuela, where 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: two powerful earthquakes struck within a minute of each other 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 2: Wednesday night. The death toll is up to at least 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five from the magnitude seven point 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: two and seven point five quakes. Thousands more are hurt. 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: Secretary of State Marco Rubio says American search and rescue 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: crews are on the way from Los Angeles and the Washington, 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: DC area. 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: They have a much of collapsed buildings and so they'll 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: need a lot of help in terms of digging through that. 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: The airport there is badly. 53 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: Damaged, so we'll have to rely on the Department of 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: War to deploy assets there. 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: Secretary of State Rubio says the US will also assist 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: with Venezuela's longer term needs. More than a dozen other 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: countries and the United Nations have also pledged aid. Acting 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: Venezuelan President Delsi Rodriguez says more than two hundred and 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: fifty buildings were damaged in the coastal area near the 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: capital Caracas, where the cun Try's main airport was heavily impacted. 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: The Venezuelan government setting up a two hundred million dollar 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: reconstruction fund with resources from the International Monetary Fund. 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: Let's turn to the markets now, Nathan, where tech fears 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: are weighing on stocks around the world. As we close 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: out the trading week is sell off and Samsung Electronics 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: and sk Heintings triggered a second trading suspension in days. 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: In South Korea, the COSTP index dropped nearly six percent. 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: A couple of things concerning investors include Apple's decision yesterday 69 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: to raise prices on many products. That's raising fears that 70 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: rising component costs could eventually curb demand and slow the 71 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: tech rally. And Polka Mishra is a partner at Javelin 72 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 3: Wealth Management. 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 7: I think the one sort of reality check that market 74 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 7: finally got yesterday was Apple cut increasing prices of its products. 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 7: That's actually shown how there's not unlimited money in the market. 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 7: If the chip makers are benefiting, then the product makers 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 7: are going to suffer. So it's the first sign that 78 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 7: it's not in an endless rally. 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: Javelin Wealth Management's Polka Mishra Nashek futures they're down one 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: point one percent this morning, and shares a Micron which 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: soared to our record yesterday. They are current laid down 82 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: as well. They are lower by about four and a half. 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: Percent market Sidria kindly to Apple's decision to increase prices, 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: Karen to deal with soaring memory chip costs. That stock 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: plunged more than six percent yesterday. Mark German covers Apple 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: for Bloomberg. He says the move appears unprecedented. 87 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 8: Apple has not, at least as long as I've been 88 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 8: covering the company, which has been well over fifteen years 89 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 8: at this point. A broad set of price increases, mac 90 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 8: price increases, iPad, Apple TV, HomePod, ho Pod Mini Vision Pro. 91 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 8: We're talking about very significant changes here to the starting 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 8: prices of max Well. 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Mark German says prices will not be raised on iPhones. 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: We also adding to a investor angst this morning, Nathan, 95 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: a report that open Ai may delay it's IPO, and 96 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Alexis Christopheris joins us with the latest Alexis, good. 97 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 9: Morning, Good morning, Karen, and Nathan. The New York Times 98 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 9: is reporting that the chat GPT maker is leaning toward 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 9: holding off on an initial public offering until next year. 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 9: The paper says bankers advising the company on its IPO 101 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 9: plans cautioned that recent volatility in tech stocks as well 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 9: as in SpaceX's shares following its record IPO, could damp 103 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 9: an enthusiasm. The time, says CEO Sam Altman, is pushing advisors, 104 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 9: including bankers and lawyers, to target a valuation of a 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 9: trillion dollars. Open Ai has filed confidentially for an IPO, 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 9: with the SEC, saying it has not decided on timing 107 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 9: just yet. In New York, Alexis Christophers Bloomberg Radio. 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: Right, Alexis thank you. Soft Bank investors aren't taking well 109 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: to the news of a possible delayed open AIIPO. That's 110 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: stock film more than twelve percent in Asia. Soft banks 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: investment in the chat GPT maker is slated to standard 112 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: roughly sixty five billion dollars by October. Expectations of a 113 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: big financial windfall from open AI's public debut had Booey 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: the soft bank to record highs. 115 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: City Groups strategist Nathan say it's too early to call 116 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: an end to the Ai trade. The team, led by 117 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: Dirk Willer, says equities are likely to keep churning higher 118 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: as corporate earnings remain strong, while quote liquidity has not 119 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: tightened enough to burst the bubble. 120 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: And some mo other news this morning, Karen California will 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: vote in November on a controversial proposal to impose a 122 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: one time tax on billionaires help fund federal cuts to 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: health care for low income people. A major labor unions 124 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: announced it is moving forward with the proposal despite staunch 125 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: pushback from a wide swath of critics, including Democratic Governor 126 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom. Opponents say the tax will push billionaires out 127 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: of California. 128 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: In Washington, Nathan Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen sidestepped 129 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: questions from the top Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee 130 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: about his support for advertising security services at airports nationwide 131 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: and Bloomberg's Amy Morris supports from Washington. 132 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 10: Ranking committee member Rosa Deloro of Connecticut asked Secretary Mullen 133 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 10: how the department can justify the move after all the 134 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 10: sacrifices made by TSA workers during what she called the 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 10: Republican shutdown. Mullen took issue with that. 136 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: Well, actually it was the Democrats that voted every time 137 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: to shut them down. 138 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: That's just gimming. 139 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 8: We didn't shut them down, You shut them. 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: Down, answer my question, why are you moving? 141 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 8: And I answered your question. You're the one that shut 142 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 8: them down? 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 10: Was the Democrats shutdown? You know, these people come to 144 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 10: us to get funding for their for the works that they. 145 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: Do, and what you voted to shut them down. 146 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 10: President Trump is pushing the move in the budget process, 147 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 10: alongside efforts to strip federal workers of collective bargaining rights. 148 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 10: TSA workers would be affected in Washington. Amy Morris Bloomberg. 149 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: Radio Okamie, thank you, and White House officials say President 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: Trump will take his first trip on the new presidential 151 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: plane next week when he travels to an event in 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: North Dakota. The plane was gifted by the Katars government. 153 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: It's intended to serve as a temporary plane until a 154 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: new fleet of Boeing jets arrives. President Trump had defended 155 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: accepting the gift from Katar, saying it would be foolish 156 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: to turn it down, and he's praised the plane, saying, 157 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: quote this is the sleekest line, and quote again, it 158 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: was my taste. 159 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: Some time now for a look at some of the 160 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: other stories making news in New York and around the world. 161 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael bar Michael, 162 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: good morning. 163 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 11: Good morning Karon. A campaign promise from New York City 164 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 11: Mayor Zora Memdani has been fulfilled. The Rent Guidelines Board 165 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 11: voted last night seven to one to freeze rents for 166 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 11: nearly one million rent stabilized apartments. The freeze applies to 167 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 11: both one and two year leases. In a statement, Memdani said, 168 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 11: this is a historic victory for New York City tenants. 169 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 11: This tenant was at the meeting. 170 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 12: For years, landlords had run this city and this is 171 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 12: like a new era of tenant power. We have a 172 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 12: rent freeze, Mayor dozens for one hundreds of people came 173 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 12: out and tested five thousands online, like the landlord's days 174 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 12: are over. Tennis eera in power now and it feels amazing. 175 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 11: The real estate industry is against the rent freeze, claiming 176 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 11: it would hurt landlord's ability to maintain their buildings. 177 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 9: The whole process is such a post. 178 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 11: Audio courtesy of ABC seven. Discussions are said to have 179 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 11: stopped for now about a possible plea deal for Luigi Mangioni, 180 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 11: who is accused of killing a United Healthcare CEO on 181 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 11: a Manhattan street. Mangione who has pleaded not guilty heads 182 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 11: back to court on Monday. The Manhattan District Attorney's Office 183 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 11: has decided to drop a rape case against Harvey Weinstein 184 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 11: after two consecutive juries failed to reach a verdict on 185 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 11: the charge. The DA's office is said to have consulted 186 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 11: with the alleged rape victim, Jessica Man, who wants to 187 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 11: move on with their life. Weinstein still faces prison time 188 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 11: for a California conviction. A top official at the National 189 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 11: Park Service, as a liner along the attom of the 190 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 11: Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, was cut with a sharp knife 191 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 11: or razor, causing damage to the foam sealant installed as 192 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 11: part of a sixteen million dollar rehabilitation project. Frank Lan's, 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 11: deputy director of Operations for the Park Service, said about 194 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 11: seventy fence post tops were also thrown into the pool. 195 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 11: Lands made statements in a court document as part of 196 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 11: a lawsuit filed by a nonprofit organization to halt the 197 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 11: administration's work on the project. Meanwhile, work to drain the 198 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 11: pool also faces algae issues, and it won't happen until 199 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 11: the fourth of July. Luble News twenty four hours a 200 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 11: day and whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News 201 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 11: Now now Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg Karen. 202 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: Thanks Michael. A time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, 203 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: and for that we bring in John stash Hour. 204 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 6: Thanks John. The World Cup team played in Los Angeles 205 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 6: was essentially meaningless for both teams, the US already having 206 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 6: won its group, Turkey already knowing it's going home. After 207 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 6: the game, Turkey a scored late game three to two, 208 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 6: and now the US gets ready for a knockout round 209 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 6: game next Wednesday. Another big trade of the NBA, Minnesota 210 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 6: made the Julius Randall to Brooklyn trade, and now the 211 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 6: Timberwolves have acquired star point guard LaMelo Ball from Charlotte 212 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 6: in exchange for nas reading four draft picks. That to 213 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 6: the Bloomberg Sports Update. 214 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: Stay with us. 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An attack on a ship 220 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: in the Strait of Horror Moves is pointing to the 221 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: risk to Middle East shipping even with an interim peace 222 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: steal and effect between the US and Iran, President Trump 223 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: says the deal is still intact. 224 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: We knocked the hell out of them, and now we're 225 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: negotiating from a position of pure strike pier strength. 226 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 12: They know that, and the straits already and we're. 227 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 11: Setting records in this. 228 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: I was President Trump at a White House event with 229 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: farmers last night, joining us from Dubai this morning. Is 230 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's head of Middle East coverage, Stuart Livingston. Wallace, Stuart, 231 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: what more do we know about this attack? What could 232 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: it mean for the negotiating position between the US and Iran? 233 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning, Nathan. I mean, at the moment, 234 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: the details are not entirely clear. I mean specifically who 235 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: exactly carried out the attack, and as of now, no 236 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 5: one has really claimed responsibility for it. However, we can 237 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 5: read into it certain important points, which is, this ship 238 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: was traveling in the so called Southern Corridor, hugging the 239 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 5: coast of Oman, which is obviously the alternative route to 240 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 5: the Northern Passageway, which hugs the coast of Iran, and 241 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: therefore one might presume that it was perhaps a warning 242 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 5: of sorts not to use that southern route and to 243 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 5: stick to the one close to the Ranian coast. And 244 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 5: from that you can extrapolate that there is pressure from 245 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 5: Iran that it wants to maintain the control over hormones 246 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: and ultimately would like to extract a revenue stream from 247 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 5: all the ships that go through there every day, which 248 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 5: you know, we don't know quite what that toll would 249 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 5: look like, whether indeed it would be called a toll 250 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 5: or a fee, but we're talking about billions and billions 251 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 5: of dollars every year, you would presume in terms of 252 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 5: what that means for the negotiations, it's going to be 253 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: very difficult because so far the red line for the 254 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: US and for many of its allies and in even 255 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: most of the region has been that that the Strait 256 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 5: must remain an area of free passage for international commas. 257 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: And to that point, we heard from Secretary of State 258 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio talking about the difficulties that he sees around 259 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: charging any kind of fees for whether it's tolling or 260 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: insurance or whatever you want to call it, through the 261 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: Strait of Hormones. But just sixty days to negotiate a 262 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: broader piece deal, could this situation the status of the 263 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: strait of hormones bog things down toward a more permanent deal. 264 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean absolutely, it's going to be a problem 265 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: going forward. I would say it's one of a number 266 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 5: of problems. I mean, it's probably the most pressing because 267 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 5: that's the one that's had the immediate impact on the 268 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: global economy far and wide, and will continue to do 269 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: so despite the recent drop in oil prices. You know, 270 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: we're a long way from going back to normal in 271 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 5: terms of global energy supply. But in terms of that 272 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 5: sixty day timeframe, I'm not sure how many people actually 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 5: believe that we'll get anything done in sixty days. The 274 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 5: last major nuclear agreement we had with Iran, the JCPOA, 275 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 5: took the better part of two years. Wasn't quite years, 276 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 5: but pretty much there. So I suppose in theory they 277 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 5: could use that as the basis of the current negotiations, 278 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 5: but that seems quite unlikely. So I think the expectation 279 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: is that will probably be extended. But then you add 280 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 5: to that all the huge problems on top of their 281 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 5: not just the nuclearile, not just hour moves, but also 282 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: the issue of ballistic missiles, of sanctions, of frozen assets, 283 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 5: support for It's a very very long list, and they're 284 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 5: all very very thorny issues. 285 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: And when it comes to this attack yesterday, Stuart, how 286 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: is it affecting traffic through the Strait of horror moves? 287 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 11: Now? 288 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: We had heard from the President that something like nineteen 289 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: million barrels of oil had gone through the Strait in 290 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: just one day. Is it starting to have an impact 291 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: on the level of flows through the Strait now? 292 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 5: It's very difficult to say, because it's always been a 293 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 5: little bit patchy, and a lot of the ships going 294 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 5: through continue to turn off their signals, which means that 295 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: often we don't discover that they've gone through until several 296 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: days later when they emerge somewhere in the Indian Ocean 297 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 5: or off the coast of somewhere quite far away. So 298 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: I can't really give you defind advance of What I 299 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: can say, which I think is difficult to argue against, 300 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: is that as far as the international shipping industry is concerned, 301 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 5: the fact that you can still get attack going through 302 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: there is going to make them very cautious about moving ships, 303 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: either in or route. And just one example, the International 304 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: Maritime Organized was working on an evacuation plan for the 305 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 5: hundreds of ships still stuck inside the Persian Gulf. As 306 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 5: of now, that's suspended because again they can't guarantee safety 307 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: coming through horror moves. So I think it's going to 308 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 5: be something that develops over the next several weeks. We'll 309 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 5: see if there are a further attacks, what the negotiations 310 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 5: look like. What's telling is that the Sultan of Oman 311 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 5: is going to be in France next week. I believe 312 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 5: and you presume that horr moves will be very high 313 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: on the agenda. 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