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Speaker 1: way brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, presented by Microsoft

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Speaker 1: Surface as always, joined by Matt money Smith. And now

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Speaker 1: that we are in the Charges off season, we'd like

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Speaker 1: this a week after the Senior Bowl for us, it's

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Speaker 1: an annual tradition. Now, Rick Sarah Tella NFL Draft Bible Money.

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Speaker 1: We love having Rick, we do and be sure to

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Speaker 1: check out all the great draft coverage at SI dot com.

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Speaker 1: We don't bring him on because it feels space to

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Speaker 1: bring him on, because he's one of the best, and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the time. It's time is valuable. Right now,

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Speaker 1: you're coming off the Senior Bowl. Rick, A lot of

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Speaker 1: times quarterback dependent, you know, we know justin Herbert certainly

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Speaker 1: raised his hands there, both of them, you know, just

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Speaker 1: But this year it seemed like, maybe, you know, little

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Speaker 1: from that that week in that game, Yeah, Herbert put

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Speaker 1: you know, We've seen a lot of quarterbacks throughout the

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Speaker 1: years though, fellas, thanks for having me, Christian Pounder, ej Manuel,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. They made themselves a lot of money at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and so it was a little bit disappointing.

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Speaker 1: I know Will Levis out of Kentucky had some injuries

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Speaker 1: nice to just see him go down there, maybe at

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Speaker 1: least interview with the teams. We didn't have that this year.

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Speaker 1: Not exactly the the star Leiden quarterback class, but guys

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Speaker 1: like Jake Kner took full advantage. He won the MVP.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, after seeing what Brock Purdy has done,

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Speaker 1: Tight end is a really strong group this year, and

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of times you come into the

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Speaker 1: play slot. That would be a guy I would probably

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Speaker 1: target in the third or fourth round. Rick, do you

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Speaker 1: remember your evaluation of J. T. Woods. He was a

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Speaker 1: guy that CHARGES drafted in the third round. Did not

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Speaker 1: get a lot of run this year at all. But

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Speaker 1: the hope is he can make a leap from his

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Speaker 1: rookie year to his second season. Yeah, we had a

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Speaker 1: big buzz. In fact, we had him I think at

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Speaker 1: the NFL PA Bowl and our scouting staff was very

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Speaker 1: high on him. Now I lost tabs once he went

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Speaker 1: to the pros. Maybe he was injured. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the case was, but yeah, the skill set, the athleticism,

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Speaker 1: it's all there, and I remember him coming out there

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Speaker 1: was a little bit of a buzz. So not sure

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Speaker 1: would happened this year, but I think he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that can at least at the very least make a

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Speaker 1: name for himself on the special teams. And I think

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Speaker 1: he would be a rotational defender I would imagine. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: our scouting department was very high on him coming out.

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Speaker 1: I think he made a bunch of plays on special

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Speaker 1: teams in college as well. Yeah, it just seemed like

446
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Speaker 1: for a just struggled a to diagnose b tackle, you

447
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Speaker 1: know angles, you know, really really struggled and run support.

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Speaker 1: I know, look, I know people are and look there's

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Speaker 1: a reason why people got excited about JT. Right he

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Speaker 1: let he led the nation and interceptions, guy, what six

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Speaker 1: of them? I think that last year? But what about

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel bad just kind of jumping you're

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Speaker 1: asking you off the top of your head. What about

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Speaker 1: those guys you know, like a Looie Gilman who filled

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Speaker 1: in from admirably. You know, real smart player seems to

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Speaker 1: make the right decision more often than not. Can you

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Speaker 1: think of sort of secondary players that fall into that category, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy's not gonna run a four to three, but man,

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Speaker 1: the intangibles are there, the smarts are there. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: was the defensive captain something like that. The one guy

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Speaker 1: that comes to immediate thought is Riley Moss out of Iowa,

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Speaker 1: and like scouts keep telling me he's a safety because

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Speaker 1: he can't run, but I mean he's he's stuck. He

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Speaker 1: was neck and neck with every receiver out there and

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Speaker 1: the one on the runs during your Bowl. So you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a difference between time speed and game speed, and

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Speaker 1: so I don't care if Riley Moss goes out to

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Speaker 1: the Combiner's pro day and runs a four or five

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Speaker 1: four and that's not sexy. He can stick you in

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Speaker 1: the side pocket. I'm keeping him at corner and at

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Speaker 1: the very least you have an instinctual ball hawk free

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Speaker 1: safety type. But man, Riley Moss is the guy that

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Speaker 1: really standing. Kedron Smith from Kentucky and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I had a chance to meet his family, what a great,

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Speaker 1: great family. But he was lights out, lockdown at the

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Speaker 1: NFL PA Jim Nagan called us up, said, hey, we

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Speaker 1: need a corner. Who do you got Kedrin Smith? He

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Speaker 1: went down, lights out, I mean. And it's a shame

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Speaker 1: because he's not invited to the NFL scouting combine. He

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Speaker 1: was snubbed. But Kedrin Smith's gonna get drafted. He's got length,

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Speaker 1: he's got sized another one of those guys. He's almost

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Speaker 1: six two, So people think, oh he's a safety. Not

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Speaker 1: so fast, my friend. He's got some man to man

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Speaker 1: coverage capabilities. Hey, Rick, last thing for me, and it's

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Speaker 1: a shame we're not gonna be able to do this

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Speaker 1: this year. What are the things I love doing with money?

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Speaker 1: Last year? Like the last five minutes of each podcast,

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Speaker 1: Money broke down punters and j K Scott. J K

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Speaker 1: Scott was awesome this year for the Chargers. They don't

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Speaker 1: need a punter, but just for money, because I think

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Speaker 1: this may be the only time that we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about punters. Give me your top three or four

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Speaker 1: putters and uh, I'll get year. It was an anomaly

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Speaker 1: year last year. We had so many good punters. It

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Speaker 1: was just a putty. Money was the Melk Keiper junior

496
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Speaker 1: of putty. We had Stowe House, We had all these dudes,

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Speaker 1: and Buddy knew everything about every putter in Haze, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a really weird year last year.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, guys. This is my twenty first

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Speaker 1: year covering the draft. It's I think my fourth or

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Speaker 1: fifth year working with the NFL PA Bowl. I've been

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Speaker 1: to hundreds, if not thousands, of Pro days. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a line of scouts waiting to speak to a

504
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Speaker 1: punter like I did out in Pasadena with this Michigan kid, Roberts.

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Speaker 1: I think he is and our our scout had him

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Speaker 1: between five one five and five three five average hang

507
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Speaker 1: time and he's a righty punter. But Nick Novak or

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Speaker 1: special teams coach said, hey, check this out. He's got

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Speaker 1: a lefty spin on it. I don't know how that's happening,

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Speaker 1: but he had a punt in the game. The guy fumbled.

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Speaker 1: They say a left handed, left footed punter is responsible

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Speaker 1: for one winning a year because you're gonna muffle anyway.

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Speaker 1: Roberts out of Michigan. You got my guy Corsac out

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Speaker 1: of Rutgers from Australia, he's got the boot. And then

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Speaker 1: you got Turk from Arizona State. You might remember his father.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, you got some some pretty good punters here.

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Speaker 1: And the Syracuse kid a bad eight. Sarah Kus has

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Speaker 1: a knack for putting punters into the pres They got

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Speaker 1: another one in Smith. Last thing, Rick Um. You know

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Speaker 1: Bruce Felman does the Freak List, and every year we

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Speaker 1: see these just physical freaks, specimens that for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: they slide. You know last year Terrek Woollen, you think

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Speaker 1: about you know DK Metcalf slide into the late second.

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Speaker 1: Is there that guy that that measurables just off the

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Speaker 1: charts but for some reason production wasn't there? Hopps. Every year,

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Speaker 1: every single year, one of these physical freak kids drafted

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Speaker 1: in the fourth round and becomes like the sensation of

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Speaker 1: the draft and how did we pass on him? And

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Speaker 1: this year we're talking trek Woollen redraft me a top

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Speaker 1: five pick. Thanks for that setup money. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: got a good one for you. Yeah, Derek Parish out

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Speaker 1: of Houston, Okay, And I got my red on today,

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Speaker 1: maybe just for him. He reminds me of Heuscheck. And

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Speaker 1: this kid is a thumper. Okay. He got hurt, I

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Speaker 1: think after the fourth game, but he was playing pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: he was playing defensive end linebacker. He had about five sacks,

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Speaker 1: ain't a half tackles for loss. He runs sub four

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Speaker 1: or five at two hundred and fifty pounds. He's got

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Speaker 1: an eleven foot broad jump, a forty inch vertical. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, guys. I like my fullbacks built

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Speaker 1: that way. And I think this kid is going to

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Speaker 1: be a weapon in the mold of Kyle Houscheck. And

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. He might not even get drafted,

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Speaker 1: but he is going to make an impact at the

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Speaker 1: NFL level. He is on the Bruce Feldman's Freak List,

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Speaker 1: and he made a name for himself one of these

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Speaker 1: all Star Games. I think it was the Shrine Bowl

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Speaker 1: where he's coming out now as a fullback. So it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a tricky position, right because you've now eliminated

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Speaker 1: yourself from half the team half teams in the NFL Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But man, this kid is the real deal. Derek Harrish

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Speaker 1: out of Houston, love it. Rick. It's always a highlight

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Speaker 1: of the offseason talking to you. Man. You said you're

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Speaker 1: a Manhattan beatriesleague. Next time you're a Manhattan beach. You

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Speaker 1: gotta hit a seb up. But we'll get you out

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Speaker 1: of here. I'm just promoting what you have going on

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Speaker 1: with with everything at SI. No. I appreciate that, guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I mentioned our twenty first year of coverage,

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Speaker 1: we're fortunate enough to be the NFL Draft content provider

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Speaker 1: over on Sports Illustrated, so we're not hard to find.

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Speaker 1: And of course we have the NFL Draft Bible UH

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Speaker 1: publication coming out. You can find that at All Access

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Speaker 1: Football dot com. And of course you guys will certainly

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Speaker 1: be receiving a VIP package. Appreciate its appreciate you, Rick. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll take a quick break in money and I will

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Speaker 1: break down the Super Bowl on Sunday, Rick, awesome, brood.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, man, appreciate you. Yeah. No, I definitely hit

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Speaker 1: you up when I'm in Manhattan Beach and you guys

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Speaker 1: hit me up when you're at the Jersey Shore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we gotta. We're thinking a showback. We'll go to showback. Absolutely, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you Rick. All Right, guys, a big

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Speaker 1: so money. Kicking off our draft coverage with Rick sarahtel

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Speaker 1: Rick's gray always fun. Love it. You know, draft season

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Speaker 1: it's hope springs eternal. Right when you don't win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl this timy year, you start thinking about how

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win the Super Bowl and what positions you

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Speaker 1: can fill through the draft. And we saw how important

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Speaker 1: the draft was. You know what, what's the what's the

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Speaker 1: quote from Tom to LESCo? He saved our season. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jamari saw your sixth round pick. He saved our season.

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Speaker 1: You know, without him at left tackle after Rashaan Slater

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Speaker 1: left in Week three, they are not in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I know it did not end the way that we

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Speaker 1: wanted it to end, the way the players, the coaches,

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Speaker 1: the front office wanted it to end, the owners, the

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Speaker 1: fans wanted it to end. But you don't have a

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Speaker 1: ten win season, you know, you don't have a twenty

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Speaker 1: seven zero lead in the first half. And obviously, look,

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Speaker 1: Jamari got hurt in that game, you know, and that

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Speaker 1: that cannot be overlooked. So I get why fans get

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Speaker 1: so excited about the draft about young players. You know,

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Speaker 1: Dean Leonard, you know, and Jessire Taylor you know, helped

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Speaker 1: with a win over Denver to get to that ten number,

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Speaker 1: you know, and get the number one wild card spy

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Speaker 1: like it's it's an important deal. And obviously you already

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Speaker 1: talked about Zion, so we know how important the draft is.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a real interesting year for the Chargers. Um,

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Speaker 1: I know, probably next week we'll get into it post

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, just you know, what the roster is going

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Speaker 1: to look like, what money looks like, extensions look like,

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Speaker 1: and how you juggle this cap because there's a number

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Speaker 1: of different ways to do it, you know, in terms

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Speaker 1: of converting salary to signing bonus, trading players, cutting players

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Speaker 1: to come into play because they spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: had the roster, and God love them for doing it,

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Speaker 1: going to change the calculus dramatically. So, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: Rick on and I'm sure we'll get our man dj

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Speaker 1: On and there's a number of other folks that we

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Speaker 1: at the end of April that are going to certainly

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Speaker 1: get the folks excited about twenty twenty three. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a great point because the next couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: we'll see what the roster looks like, and the free

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Speaker 1: agency will dictate what they may do in the draft.

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Speaker 1: So still a ways to go before we get to April,

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Speaker 1: but never too early to talk about out the NFL Draft. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this just popped in my head. Dude, you called one

636
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: of the best college basketball games of the year in Indiana.

637
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: What was that experience? Like, that's incredible, It's unbelievable. Yeah,

638
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I was at Assembly Hall in Bloomington two hundred and

639
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: sixteenth meeting between the Hoosiers and boiler Makers. You know,

640
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: it's one of the great I know, everybody knows, you know,

641
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: Duke North Carolina, Kentucky, Louisville, all those sort of things.

642
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: But this is probably one of the most overlooked rivalries

643
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: in college basketball because look, in fairness, you know, Purdue

644
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: in Indiana have not made championship runs in the last

645
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: thirty years. You know, it's been a while since they

646
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: found themselves in the final four. So there are two

647
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: really really good teams. Indiana was the preseason pick to

648
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: win the Big Ten. They had some big injuries. Xavier Johnson,

649
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Race Thompson both went down to their veteran leaders and

650
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: they're getting healthy now. And so for those that don't

651
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: follow college basketball, Zachid is just one of the great

652
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: you gotta watch Purdue basketball. He's seven foot four, he's athletic,

653
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: he's unstoppable, like teams just cannot stop him, and it's

654
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: fun to watch. So, you know, twenty two and one,

655
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: they're only lost coming at a buzzer beater by Rutgers,

656
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, at one point loss. Otherwise they'd have been

657
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: perfect going into that game at Assembly Hall, and Indiana

658
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: gets out with a win. They led by fifteen, Perdue

659
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: cut it down to two with three minutes left, and

660
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: then Hoosiers pulled away, and you know, fans rushed the

661
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: court and all that sort of stuff. It was really

662
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: cool to be in the building be part of it.

663
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: And lucky enough, you know, I was a sign the rematch.

664
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: So I'll be going back to Mackie in a couple

665
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: weeks for the Indiana at Purdue rematch. The two hundred

666
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: and seventeenth maybe between the two teams, and by the way,

667
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I'm not left out.

668
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: I got it right here. My Microsoft surface goes with

669
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: me when I hit the road. I love this thing.

670
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: I know we're sponsored by him and stuff and it's great,

671
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: but I would not sing its praises if I did

672
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: not believe in it. I absolutely love it. It's my

673
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: stat monitor when we're on the road. They have a

674
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: thing called tabs that I use extensively where I can

675
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: pop back and forth between all my stats for the

676
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: different teams when I want to dig something up. It's

677
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: so easy to access with the search tools. It's just

678
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: such an awesome piece of technology. That really is. I mean,

679
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: it's essential to everything I do. During the Charger games,

680
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: it's always in front of me. I love the way

681
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: it's set up. And now with college basketball season happen

682
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: and it goes everywhere I go. You got a Charger's logo.

683
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: At assembly Hall, They're like, okay, I know that's the

684
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: voice of the Chargers. It's funny and it's and it's

685
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: actually happened. When I pop it up, they look at

686
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: it and they're like, what's out all about? And then

687
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: they start talking to be like, oh, yeah, I know

688
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: you are. So it's kind of funny. That's awesome, all right,

689
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: super Bowl. If you look at this game through Chargers glasses, right,

690
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs Eagles. I go back to last year. Chargers go

691
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: on the road, they beat the Chiefs. They go on

692
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: the road, they beat the Eagles. Obviously played the Chiefs

693
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: twice this year, lost by a field goal in both games.

694
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: These are the two best teams in football money, the

695
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: number one seed in each conference. Both had home field,

696
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: both protected it, and we have quite the matchup. Man.

697
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: Both teams have been awesome this year, and I really

698
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect. I could see both

699
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: teams winning this. Yeah, you know, it's I wish we

700
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: had both quarterbacks one hundred percent. I think it's clear

701
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: that both are hurting. You know, you could see the

702
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: way Patrick Mahomes moved in the championship game that he

703
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: was not right clearly. And you can see the way

704
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: that Jalen hurts through the ball in the in the

705
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: conference championship that he's not right. So, you know, I

706
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: think that's going to play a big role in the

707
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: way the game plays out. You know, is Jalen hurts

708
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: shoulder healed because you know, it just seemed like the

709
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: accuracy was off and it's been there all year. Certain,

710
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, and same thing with Patrick Mahomes to me,

711
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: like you look at it and if games you know,

712
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: are one on the lines, the Eagles have the advantage.

713
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: They have the better offensive line, they have the better

714
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: defensive line. If Patrick Mahomes is not right and he

715
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: can't move and you've got that front, I mean, just

716
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about seventy sacks in the regular season, seventy

717
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: five players with double digit sacks, and you see Brandon Graham,

718
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave, Josh Sweat, I mean, Hassan Reddick

719
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: eighty is crazy what they throw at you up front.

720
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: So like to me and look, like we said earlier,

721
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, you can make a compelling case he's defensive

722
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: player of the Year. I mean, that's that's why the

723
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs won the conference championship, you know, because of what

724
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: Chris Jones was able to do to that front offensive

725
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: line wise. You know, it's just my lot of what

726
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: he's been able to do after just starting playing, you know,

727
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: from you know, from down under to coming here and

728
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: just figuring out football and how he's become a dominant

729
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: force at one tackle, perhaps the best center in the

730
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: league in Jason Kelsey certainly the leader of that line.

731
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson at right tackle, maybe the best right tackle

732
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: in football. Like, that's just to me, that's so much

733
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: to overcome for the Chiefs. But Patrick Mahomes, I mean,

734
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: that's like, Tim, that's why you pick the Chiefs. You're

735
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: just like, I'm not picking against Patrick Mahomes. I'm just

736
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: not going to do it. So I think the key

737
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: is gonna be turnovers. Jalen Hurts only lost one game

738
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: this year was the Commanders, I believe, on a Monday night,

739
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: and I think they had like four turnovers in that game.

740
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: They've been so good at taking care of the ball.

741
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: So if they take care of the football, I think

742
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: the odds of the Eagles winning the game goes up.

743
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: But what struck me funny was I don't know if

744
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: he saw Brandon aux comments about the Chiefs and the Eagles,

745
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: he said that if he was a betting man, he goes,

746
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a betting man, but I would put everything

747
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: that I own on the Chiefs to beat the Eagles.

748
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: And I know that the Chiefs beat up the Niners

749
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: pretty good earlier in the year. And I don't know

750
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: if Brandon has a little sour grace because he didn't

751
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: have a quarterback in the NFC Championship game, but that

752
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: that just kind of struck me because the Chiefs. You

753
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: talk about all the depth and all those players that

754
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles have on both sides of the ball, but

755
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: we talk about the impact players on the Chiefs got

756
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Patrick Mahon's obviously, Travis Kelsey. Those are the

757
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: guys that win you games on the biggest stage. So

758
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: that's what I think is fascinating. You have players in

759
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: the league saying that, oh man, the Chiefs are gonna

760
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: be beat the Eagles, no problem, and then you have

761
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: all the evidence what the Eagles have done this year

762
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: and how good Jalen Hurts has played. That's why I'm

763
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: kind of at a loss at this point. Yeah, I think, Look,

764
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: I think there have been concerns on the secondary for

765
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: the Eagles all season. I use a wide receiver, so yeah,

766
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: I think there's some sour grapes there. Perhaps he's beating

767
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: his guy and he's just there's nothing, there's nothing there.

768
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: You know, we can't get you know, we can't get

769
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: anything out to him because of the injuries. So you know,

770
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: I think there's a level of a frustration there. You know,

771
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: you look at I'm trying to find the numbers, but

772
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: I don't see, Like I don't remember the Eagles. Yeah,

773
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: they only gave up twenty two passing touchdowns. But I think,

774
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: like if I remember right, U, the Chiefs had a

775
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: serious issue. Let me see where is it the Chiefs? Now? See,

776
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were really That's what it is. So the

777
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: Chiefs were really good defensively against the run, only ten

778
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns allowed. So I think that's perhaps where it

779
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: comes into play. You know, San Francisco is what a

780
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: run heavy team. Everything comes off those designed runs from

781
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. And when the Chiefs run, defense stymies you

782
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: and it's very hard for you to get anything going.

783
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: That's where I think maybe Ayuka is coming from, like,

784
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: oh I saw this I run. The defense was really

785
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: good to me. Again, I just think it comes down

786
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: to quarterback health. If Patrick Mahomes is not right, I

787
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: don't quite see how he's able to get to get

788
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: out of those you know, to get away from that

789
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: pass rush. And I think that impacts things dramatically. I

790
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: think there's a reason why the line is so is

791
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: one and a half. You know, it's a pick um contest.

792
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: Do you believe in the lines? Do you believe in

793
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback? And you know, because because Jalen's been banged

794
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: up and his shoulders not quite right, I think that's

795
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, where the potential MVP of the I mean,

796
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: these are the two this is probably these are the

797
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: two guys. They're gonna finish one and two in the

798
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: MVP race. You know, Mahome's probably gonna win it and

799
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts because he missed those couple games. It's probably

800
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: gonna finish a second or I don't think it would

801
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: surprise many people if he did win it, because it

802
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: shows you what happens to that Eagle's offense when he's

803
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: not there. So um, if I had depict it's we've

804
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: seen it. We see it too many times. Chris. It's

805
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: like you have him dead the rights and somehow, some way,

806
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: and whether you want to say it's fair or not,

807
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, you see the hold you know in the

808
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: in the game, you know that that led to the

809
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: conversion that set up the game winning field goal, or

810
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: the that led to the run that led to the

811
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: penalty that led to the game winning field goal. It

812
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: just seems like things break right for that team, you know,

813
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: they just they always do. And if it's a flag

814
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: that's not thrown on a hold, if it's a player

815
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: making a critical error, and I'm not saying it wasn't

816
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: a penalty at absolutely was a penalty on a side,

817
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, on the sideline. But just those things just

818
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: happen to the Chiefs with Patrick Bomes. It's the craziest thing,

819
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: but they do. Um So I think in a tight contest,

820
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: i'd be apt. Yeah, But see then I say it,

821
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: and then I just I just think their offensive line stinks.

822
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: I just do. I think you can really say it

823
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: money like you can't. You don't. You don't want to

824
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: say it, right, No, I don't. I don't because they

825
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: beat the Chargers twice and it and it hurts and

826
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: it stings. But I just, man, I see how much

827
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: they hold and get away with it. And then I

828
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: listen to freaking Mitchell Schwartz on podcasts saying things like, well,

829
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: technically it's not a hold because if you if you've

830
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: engaged and you have your arm bar hour as long

831
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: as you're in your feet, it's not a whole shut up.

832
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. It's like he's he's

833
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: got his arm around a guy's neck and he's impeding

834
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: his forward progress. I don't care what his feet are

835
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: doing at that point, you know. And look, it's ridiculous

836
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: for me to say that, you know, versus a Pro

837
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: Bowl offensive lineman. But the film's there. I mean, come on,

838
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: it's and it and I see it when I go

839
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: back and watch the Charger games and Joey Bosa getting

840
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: held on every single play and Orlando Brown holding on

841
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: every single play because his feet are slow. It's just

842
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: I think they're you know what, I'll take the Eagles.

843
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna struggle. I think they're because you've

844
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: got it inside with Hargrave and Cox, you've got it

845
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: outside with Reddick and Sweat and Graham. So I do

846
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: think that defensive line is going to be able to

847
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: do some serious damage. Yeah. Whatever, I'll take the Eagles.

848
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm taking I'm taking the Eagles too. We talked about

849
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago, just the way that

850
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: their offense is constructed. If they need to run the ball,

851
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: they got the horses to run the ball. If they

852
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: need to throw the ball, they got weapons up and

853
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: down the field led by Goddard and A. J. Brown

854
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: and DeVante Smith. Jalen Hurts has been more accurate as

855
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: a passer this year. I think that they can play

856
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: a number of different ways. And you know, there's there's

857
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 1: a ton of former Chargers in this game too, money,

858
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: So start on the Eagles side. You've got Shane Steikin

859
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: as the OC. You got Nick Sirianni, who obviously was

860
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: the Yeah, the wide receivers coach, Um Kaisier White, Lynvall,

861
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: Joseph Yeah, Melvin Gordon and Cole Christensen on the practice

862
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: squad of the Chiefs. So there's a lot of bolts

863
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: in this game, Yeah, no doubt. And I think maybe

864
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: that's also part of it. You know, I like Shane

865
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: and Nick so much. You know, got to know Shane

866
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: quite well during his time here, got to music a

867
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: little bit because he and Nick hard Hardwick when he

868
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: was here his first season, were super close, So I

869
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: was able to get to know Nick. I actually saw

870
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: both of them last year at the Combine. We ended

871
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: up hanging out one night out drinking and having a

872
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: good time and just kind of catching up with them.

873
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: And it was really cool to to talk you know,

874
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of football with Shane and just listen

875
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: to how excited he was about the upcoming season, you know,

876
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: and that was before they traded for a j. Brown,

877
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: But just kind of chatting with him about how things

878
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: were going. So maybe that's where my bias is creeping in,

879
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, just really loving to see would would love

880
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: to see those two guys, you know, get a Super

881
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: Bowl ring, as much as I appreciated them when they

882
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: were here with the Charger, as much as I like

883
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: him as people, And plus I just don't I don't

884
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: know how you can't root for Jalen Hurts Like he

885
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: is one of the easiest, one of the easiest players

886
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: to want to see do well, his work ethic, the

887
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: way he handled his demotion at Alabama, not you know,

888
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: missing a beat, transfer into Oklahoma, being in the Heisman conversation,

889
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, not whining about slipping out of the first

890
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: round of being a second round pick despite his resume

891
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: and what he was able to do in college, and

892
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, just could not be more excited for him

893
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: as well, so maybe there's a little bit of a

894
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a bias and a little bit of

895
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: a fan being interest there. It's fine though. You know,

896
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: Kaiser White was one of my favorite guys on the

897
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: Chargers last year. Just just a great dude off the field.

898
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: He produced at a high level for the Chargers last year,

899
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: produced at a high level for the Eagles this year.

900
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: And it's kind of a homecoming for him to go

901
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: back to Philly. He's from that area, went to West Virginia.

902
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: So I'd like to see Kaiser get a ring because

903
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's had a heck of a year for

904
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: the Eagles and deserves it. So we're both going with Philly. Huh.

905
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: You know, I say it and I hate it. I'm

906
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I feel like I know the Chiefs

907
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: are gonna win. I just did we got a minute? Hey,

908
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: you can amend it. You can amend at any time

909
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: over the next minute. Money. Like I said, I that's

910
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: the only reason that like I think, when you look

911
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: at it on paper, there's there's really only one reason

912
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: to take that. There's two reasons to take the Chiefs.

913
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: It's Patrick Mahomes will not lose. Can you really envision

914
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: mahomes go into three Super Bowls and only win in one.

915
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, can you really knowing how things just always

916
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: break their way? You know, why would it not happen here?

917
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I look at the you know, I

918
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: look at what the Eagles. Look. All the Eagles can

919
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: do is play who's in front of them, and I

920
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: don't you know, I hate the whole Look who they've

921
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: played all see. Look, Okay, Brock Purty got knocked out.

922
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson's arm fell off like I mean, he had

923
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: a concussion, you know, Brock parties at Rock Party's arm

924
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: got ripped off, like okay, But that's just that's what

925
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: happened in the game. You know. So all they can

926
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: do is play and dominate, and they absolutely dominated the

927
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: Giants offense. Just that defense wrecked that Giants offense that

928
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought was going to be able

929
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: to hang in that game. So now stick you know,

930
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: I'll stick with the with the Eagles, you know, absolutely,

931
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: absolutely right, no question here, All right, I'm taking the Eagles.

932
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: Money's taking the Eagles. We're gonna get out here's mind. Well, hey,

933
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: Rick was the first guest of the off season. We're

934
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: gonna keep getting guests on talking draft, talking free agency.

935
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: So look forward to keeping this rolling on Thursdays. Thank

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00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: you to Microsoft Surface for money. I'm Chris. This has

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Speaker 1: been charges Weekly all right, guys, thanks again for listening

938
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