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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Kyles Forber and welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Rubin tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury Todd's Lucky The Philly

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Speaker 2: Show brought to you by foul Territory Network.

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Speaker 3: I hope everybody's doing well.

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Speaker 2: It's Thursday morning, January twenty third, twenty twenty five. Rubin.

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Speaker 2: You are at Fantasy Camp in Clearwater. And normally Jim

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Speaker 2: and I would be so jealous because you'd be in

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Speaker 2: the warm weather. But I looked at the check thatweather

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Speaker 2: dot com. Dude, it's not a good week for ball

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Speaker 2: and Clearwater.

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Speaker 1: It's freezing problem, freezing my cojones off right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm old man, and it's and you know, it's always

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Speaker 4: windy here, guy. We're actually on the on the water

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Speaker 4: here where we're staying, but you know, there's always a

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Speaker 4: breeze floating around here because we're off the water and

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Speaker 4: we're you know, in between we're bays and stuff and

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Speaker 4: such water around.

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Speaker 1: But it is not comfortable. I was supposed to play

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Speaker 1: some golf this morning.

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Speaker 4: I played last night in misery or yesterday, but try

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Speaker 4: to play this this morning.

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Speaker 1: No, no go, man. I just decided to bag it.

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Speaker 1: It was just way too cold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I genuinely feel bad for you and for all

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Speaker 2: the Phillies alumni there and especially other people that you know,

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Speaker 2: paid for Fantasy Camp, because when you sign up for

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Speaker 2: this stuff months in advance, you're thinking you're getting out

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Speaker 2: of the dreary, cold, gray hellscape of the Northeast United States,

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Speaker 2: and it's kind of feels like you're still in Philly

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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, And.

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Speaker 1: It's snowy in parts of Florida. It's insane.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but but I mean it's not obviously

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Speaker 4: not snowing here, but it's it's gonna get a little

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Speaker 4: warmer as we move through the week, thankfully, but still

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Speaker 4: not the most comfortable situation. But they're filing in here

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Speaker 4: heavy on the fantasy Fantasy Camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well, well that's good. I hope you have

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Speaker 3: a good time down there. I know, but people go

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Speaker 3: down there, they have a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: One guy who had a great night last night, regardless

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Speaker 2: of the weather, our good friend Billy Wagner makes the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. That was I loved the reaction that

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Speaker 2: I saw on Twitter, and then when he got the call,

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Speaker 2: Billy breaking down in tears really showed how much he

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Speaker 2: meant to it, And when we had him on our

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Speaker 2: show right before Christmas, you can tell how tortured he

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Speaker 2: was over the last couple of years about not getting

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Speaker 2: in coming so close.

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Speaker 3: You guys obviously must feel the.

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Speaker 2: Same as I do about about Billy getting in.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely thrilled. I think it's richly deserved and I'm very

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Speaker 5: very happy for the player and the man. He's one

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Speaker 5: of my all time favorites, and he was a great one.

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Speaker 5: You look, you know, a career whip under one under

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Speaker 5: one point zero. He struck out one third of the

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Speaker 5: batters he faced and made League Baseball game. He held

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Speaker 5: the posting hitters yeah, nine and three innings. He held

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Speaker 5: the posing hitters to UH under two hundred batting and average.

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Speaker 5: I thought the MLB Network, and I think they always

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Speaker 5: do a great chart. I think their coverage was phenomenal

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Speaker 5: leading up to this thing, and a few days ago

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Speaker 5: they had a graphic. Now, Billy spent his whole career

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Speaker 5: having to get big outs. You know, he wasn't some

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Speaker 5: middle reliever, he wasn't a star who could pace himself.

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Speaker 5: He had to come out there and be ready and

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Speaker 5: sharp and on top of his game. From the first

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Speaker 5: pitch or else you were going to lose that ballgame.

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Speaker 5: Pitching and leverage all the time and dominating. And the

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Speaker 5: MLB network the other day had this graphic. I was

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Speaker 5: watching it. I took a picture of it. In his career,

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Speaker 5: facing Barry Bonds, Barry Bonds was three for fourteen with

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Speaker 5: three strikeouts. Miguel Cabrera, hitting savant, was two for thirteen

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Speaker 5: with five strikeouts against Billy Wagner. Chipper Jones hall of Famer,

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Speaker 5: four for twenty three thirteen strikeouts against Billy Wagner. Albert Pooholtz,

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Speaker 5: another hitting savant, one of the greatest players of all time,

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Speaker 5: seven four strikeouts against Billy Wager. Bonds, Cabrera, Chipper, and

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Speaker 5: Poohols combined hit two thirteen against Billy Wager. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that doesn't get you in the Hall of Fame, but

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Speaker 5: it just illustrates how dominant he was big situations against

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Speaker 5: top players. Hats off to Billy or Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really so so happy for him. Those are

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Speaker 4: great numbers, Jim, and you know that, you know, you

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Speaker 4: talk about the strikeout numbers. That was during an era

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Speaker 4: where a strikeout was sort of embarrassing. You know, people

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Speaker 4: didn't want to strike out back then, that the percentages

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Speaker 4: something like that. I don't have those numbers in front

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Speaker 4: of me, but the people were not striking out that

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I agree with you Todd about the reaction.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you think about where he started as

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Speaker 4: a right hander, his arm becomes a left hander and

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Speaker 4: throws one hundred miles an hour, but not just that,

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Speaker 4: but he located his fastball and he threw a very

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Speaker 4: very effective slider as well, one of the most dominant

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Speaker 4: pitchers of all time. And for him to go from

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Speaker 4: where he started to where he finished small five eleven,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think, I mean, it's a very very

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Speaker 4: small left hander, you know, with a golden arm, who had.

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Speaker 1: The gumption and.

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Speaker 4: The guts to be able to to do what he

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Speaker 4: did for such a long period of time.

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Speaker 1: Kudos man, So happy for him. Good guy, competitive guy.

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Speaker 4: And boil boy is it well deserves and let's not

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Speaker 4: let's not stup Off, mister C. C. Sabbathia and each row.

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Speaker 4: You mean you're talking about two phenomenal players. CC Sabbathia,

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Speaker 4: I think brought another element to his game. I mean,

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Speaker 4: obviously a great picture, but if you start talking about

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Speaker 4: teammates and what he meant to his teams as a

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Speaker 4: person and as a leader, and now he's working, I believe,

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Speaker 4: in the Commissioner's office and really helping out major League Baseball.

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Speaker 4: Just a quality human being man, Just a quality human

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Speaker 4: being that you wanted to be around. I never had

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to spend a lot of time with him,

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Speaker 4: but I know his story and I know people talk

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Speaker 4: about him in the highest highest of him met him

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Speaker 4: several times, but people talk about in at the highest

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Speaker 4: level and then each year.

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Speaker 1: Oll I mean, I mean three.

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Speaker 4: Thousand hits in two major leagues. I mean, come on, ridiculous,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you talk. You know what's funny about Easter Eros.

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Speaker 4: Would he be able to play on a team in

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Speaker 4: today's world, I guess he would be probably viewed much

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Speaker 4: like yeah, a rise probably with more speed, better defense probably,

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't be as I mean, his value as a player.

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Speaker 4: Would be very very different in today's day and age

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Speaker 4: as it was than it was back then when he

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Speaker 4: was an.

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Speaker 1: Elite player in this league.

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, first Japanese player ever to uh

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Speaker 4: to be a Japanese born, right, correct.

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Speaker 1: He had such great to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: He had such great bad control. I think if he was,

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Speaker 5: you know, coming in now and they said that we

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Speaker 5: needed to slug more, he could have said, Okay, I'll

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Speaker 5: use the bad had more and I slug more.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's actually as funny as you say that, Jim,

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Speaker 4: because people talk about he and also Wade Boggs in

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Speaker 4: this s vein like if they wanted to hit home

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Speaker 4: runs and they wanted to create a little bit more angle,

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Speaker 4: they're a little bit more you know, drive the ball

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Speaker 1: They could do that.

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Speaker 4: They had the ability to do that, I had coordination,

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Speaker 4: and but they wanted to They didn't want to sacrifice

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Speaker 5: You mentioned that, You mentioned CC being a good teammate.

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Speaker 5: CC's Sabbathia and I'll always remember two thousand and eight

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Speaker 5: when he went to Milwaukee. There was a time when

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Speaker 5: you guys were trying to acquire him as well. Right,

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Speaker 5: that was the year.

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Speaker 3: That was the year.

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Speaker 5: So he goes to Milwaukee and he made He goes

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Speaker 5: like ten and one for them, right, and he pitches

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Speaker 5: a whole bunch of like many of his starts were

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Speaker 5: on three days rest. Right.

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Speaker 1: He was outstanding.

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Speaker 5: He was taking the ball, taking the ball, taking the ball.

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Speaker 5: And he wasn't saying, well, I'm not going to go

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Speaker 5: on short rests because I'm going to be a free agent.

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Speaker 5: I need to protect my earning power. No, he was like,

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Speaker 5: you traded for me. We're here to win games. I'm

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Speaker 5: going to take the ball and do the best I

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Speaker 5: can and we'll worry about free agency later.

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Speaker 1: I thought that would never happen today. That would never

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Speaker 1: happen today, or very few guys would do that. Yeah, agent, that.

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Speaker 5: Agent would would would fly into town.

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Speaker 1: And exactly, Yeah, I went about that, Jim.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's a separator for me. Man, that's a

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Speaker 4: really big separator because he wanted to win.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that he wanted to win baseball games.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back, Kratz.

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Speaker 3: We're back.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this a bunch was certainly during the

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Speaker 2: Billy Wagner episode. We shared a long story about it.

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Speaker 2: But Jim, I mean, come on, you've you've caught a

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Speaker 2: bullpen session of a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Now you can say it's not just.

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Speaker 2: That you didn't just catch an elite closer over a

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Speaker 2: long career. You caught a Hall of Famer closers bullpen

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Speaker 2: session in spring training. That adds to this story. And

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Speaker 2: if you don't know we're talking about, go back and

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Speaker 2: listen to the Billy Wagner episode.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Yeah it was. It was one

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Speaker 5: of my favorite stories that I've ever done. And it's yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was a great memory. That's all I can say.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, but I'm just happy for Billy because I

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Speaker 5: know how hard he worked. I know what a student

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Speaker 5: of his craft he was. I know how bad it

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Speaker 5: he wanted to win. I know how good he was

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Speaker 5: so and I know he waiting those ten years. Man,

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Speaker 4: For him, indeed, Jim, But I got to go back,

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Speaker 4: But I do think that I'm sure that you gained

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Speaker 2: Yep, he was confident who he was, and that's that

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Speaker 3: For ensrinment into Cooperstown.

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Speaker 2: So the way I read those numbers yesterday was Chase

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Speaker 2: I think he has a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 2: And Jimmy year four eighteen percent not great, but not bad.

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Speaker 5: Well, staying on Jimmy for a second, I have Larry

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously I have great bias because I watched those

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Speaker 1: Think it was close at his position.

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of things to debate there. Man,

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Speaker 4: Who what do you love? What do you love about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when I think about Jimmy rerollinds. Let

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Speaker 2: He's not just Omar Viskell. And this is not rubin

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Speaker 3: Do you think Jimmy's gonna make the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: You think Jimmy Rownds is a Hall of Famer, So

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Speaker 2: But I mean, Bobby's numbers are certainly you know, people

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Speaker 5: You know, I did think he would get more support

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either.

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Speaker 4: I think it's we had tough road for him. But

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Speaker 4: I mean there's some great numbers there to talk about.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's some there's some length and some breadth

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that he was. Did he have that cachet?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Ruben, you got this. We've been dying to ask

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Speaker 2: if I was wanting to ask you about this. You

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Speaker 1: Nationally speaking of handling the bat.

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Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of handling the bat. So what can you

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Speaker 2: so slugball? Uh, this big announcement comes out today that

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Speaker 2: This is not just because we're friends and podcast potanas,

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Speaker 2: I need to hear more about this. So tell me

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Speaker 1: And well, I think interestingly, there's like, no, there's no gaming.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these you know.

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Speaker 4: that becoming a thing. Pickleball, top golf, as you as

439
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Speaker 4: you mentioned, there's other sports, is even flag football now

440
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: that's becoming like these are games that were sort of

441
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 4: derivatives of major sports and something that people can can

442
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Speaker 4: play and compete with. It really didn't have that sort

443
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 4: of thing in baseball, like once you're done playing high

444
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Speaker 4: school baseball or competitive you know, D one, D two,

445
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: D three, college baseball, or even professional baseball. You like

446
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 4: short of hung them up and that was it. Maybe

447
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 4: you played a little softball, maybe you did a little

448
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 4: this and all that, but there's nothing, there's no real

449
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 4: game that that and that always felt like, you know,

450
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 4: hitting is the most fun part of the game. There's

451
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Speaker 4: no fielding, there's no running the bases, and basically I

452
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: think the part of the game there also is really

453
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Speaker 4: interest that interests me is the fact that you know,

454
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Speaker 4: you can control the back. You don't have to hit

455
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Speaker 4: home runs. It's not a theme run derby, and it's

456
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Speaker 4: really the art and we're sort of emphasizing the art

457
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Speaker 4: and the skill of hitting. It's a difficult thing to do.

458
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Speaker 8: It's one of the most difficult people talk about all

459
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Speaker 8: the time, one of the most difficult things to do

460
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Speaker 8: in all of sports. But but I think that's it's

461
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 8: a cool way for people to compete and to be

462
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 8: able to get you know, get their buddies together, get

463
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Speaker 8: their colleagues together, get their ex teammates together, and and

464
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Speaker 8: and you know, kind of swing the bat and compete

465
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Speaker 8: against other other other players in a fun, efficient way.

466
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Speaker 4: It's a quick quick games. The games are like thirty

467
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 4: minutes long at the most, and then you just sort

468
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 4: of handle the bat around the field and if you

469
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Speaker 4: want to, you know, see more about it, look at

470
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Speaker 4: sea at play slugball dot com, you know at slugball.

471
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of social media stuff going on

472
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 4: right now with it. But but we're proud to launch it.

473
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Speaker 4: We have six competitions already set up beginning on May tenth.

474
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Speaker 1: And uh, we'll see how it goes. We've did some

475
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: we did some testing.

476
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 4: There was basically a group of people my brother was involved, myself, uh,

477
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 4: some business owners and some business leaders in Philadelphia, guy

478
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 4: named Mike Gosner Junior and his dad Mike Gosner and

479
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 4: Greg o'linsky, a bunch of guys in the in the

480
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: Philadelphia area who had this sort of idea and dream

481
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 4: and we sort of tweaked it and got to the

482
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Speaker 4: point where we tested it and did some things with it.

483
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Speaker 4: And I think it's pretty cool, man. I think it's

484
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: a it's I think it's gonna be a cool thing

485
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 4: for people to, you know, to be able to pick

486
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 4: up that baseball bat and swing it again in a

487
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: competitive environment.

488
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Speaker 1: That's fun.

489
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Speaker 3: Ye do it? Well, you know what, we got to

490
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Speaker 3: get you guys out there.

491
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: We definitely have to get you guys out there.

492
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Speaker 3: No video though, right, well, there's video.

493
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Speaker 5: The package.

494
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: We used to do a back in the day.

495
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: Jim remembers quite well.

496
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: We used to do a Phillies Media Batting Challenge in

497
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: spring training over at Carpenter Complex, very early in camp.

498
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: Mil mil Thompson would throw some VP and every once

499
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: in a while, I mean, it was a lot of fun.

500
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: Jimmy was Jimmy always finished at near the top. Jimmy

501
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: can swing it at the top.

502
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Speaker 3: He's catching Billy Wagner.

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Speaker 5: He's winning Billy's media batting challenges? Is a package?

504
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Speaker 3: Is he?

505
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Speaker 5: Really?

506
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Speaker 2: He truly is.

507
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Speaker 5: I'm going to definitely go do some slug ball, but

508
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Speaker 5: I just hope it's a freebie.

509
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see, we'll see what we do with the

510
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Speaker 1: media folk.

511
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Speaker 4: But uh, I again, it sounds like it's it looks

512
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 4: like and it feels like it's from the feedback that

513
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 4: we've got from the some of the people who competed,

514
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: they've really enjoyed, you know, getting back on the field

515
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Speaker 4: and being able.

516
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Speaker 2: To do and plus it's at minor league parks too,

517
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Speaker 2: so that's cool. It's not like it's you know, it's

518
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Speaker 2: it's in a real facil as well, which I think

519
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: kind of adds to the cool factor. You're not you're

520
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Speaker 2: not going out to you know, uh, some park right

521
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Speaker 2: around the corner from your house and doing it. You know,

522
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: it's it's a real venue. So I think that adds

523
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Speaker 2: kind of the cool the coolness of it.

524
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Speaker 5: Can, Ruben, can I bring my old green Eastern.

525
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: Wood bats only wood bats only?

526
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Speaker 5: Remember the green remember the green Eastern?

527
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: Don't worry. Yes, Oh that's the one I used. Thirty

528
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Speaker 1: three thirty two.

529
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Speaker 5: I use thirty three, thirty one, thirty three twenty nine.

530
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Speaker 5: Oh what a nice I still got it in my garage.

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Speaker 2: You know what if I just I just found recently

532
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: years ago there was Charlie Manuel bat giveaway at the

533
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Speaker 2: ballpark and that's a wooden bat, So maybe I could.

534
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they gave up only the best wood for

535
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Speaker 2: the Uh.

536
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Speaker 1: I do believe that vict this is providing the bats.

537
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: Oh really, And that's what's.

538
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 4: One of the I think that's one of the caveats.

539
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: I do believe, or at least, UH, there be private.

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00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: Part of the part of the process. We have all

541
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: types of stuff. You put the stuff things on the

542
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 4: knobs and you know, you'd be able to see your

543
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: bat speed and that kind of stuff.

544
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Speaker 3: It's pretty there's.

545
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: Some pretty it's pretty cool stuff.

546
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: That is cool. I like that.

547
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, see how fast you're swinging it. See how you

548
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: measure up to schwar bros.

549
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: Now you measure up to the shore bomb.

550
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

551
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: And Bryce Harper, that violence.

552
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: My my exit velo. I don't know what that would

553
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: be coming.

554
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: Off the bat if I hit it here, But uh,

555
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Speaker 2: that's COOLU and I wish we wish you're the best

556
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: of luck with it. Does you know check it out

557
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: if you haven't seen it's I know. Matt Breen from

558
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: The Inquiry wrote a story about it today.

559
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 5: Everywhere Today A p wrote about it. USA Today wrote

560
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 5: about it.

561
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are getting out there. That's cool.

562
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: That's trying to trying to make a footprint. We'll see

563
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: how it goes, Uh, wrapping it up.

564
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Speaker 2: Philly has had some players at the ballpark yesterday. I

565
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys saw it. Christopher Sanchez in

566
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Speaker 2: town and Ryan Kirkring, Cody Clemens, Buddy Kennedy's local. Uh

567
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Speaker 2: and West and Wilson who came into town and.

568
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Speaker 1: Uh most of the Flyers game.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, they check.

570
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: Out the Flyers game. Most of them came into town

571
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: like Monday. I said, why don't you guys come in

572
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: a day early go to the Eagles game. They said,

573
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: if we had thought about that, we would have come

574
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: in a day early to check out the Eagles. But

575
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Speaker 2: they also, I'm not a fan of the weather in

576
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Philadelphia right now, their their itching. I think to get

577
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: back to this is Texas and Florida, and this.

578
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Speaker 5: Is very, very unusual.

579
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Speaker 3: It really is.

580
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: It's cold everywhere.

581
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: Man.

582
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 5: Yes, this you know growing up in New England, this

583
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 5: is great pond hockey weather because you get a week

584
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Speaker 5: in the in the in the teens and you got

585
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 5: a foot of ice and the ice is like glass

586
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 5: unless it snows, but a beautiful ice. But the key

587
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: to good pond hockey weather is like eighteen to twenty

588
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 5: two degrees and no wind. And this is what we

589
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 5: got right now.

590
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get the scale.

591
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: We got wind down here is eighteen degrees.

592
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 5: We gotta wind. I don't really as long as it's

593
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: not windy, I don't mind it. When is my least

594
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 5: favorite element?

595
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Speaker 3: I think you know that Jim in the press box.

596
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: Man if the if the wind starts blowing through the

597
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: press because.

598
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: Jim Rubin he shows up usually with a a wah

599
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: wah bag like a copy of the New York Post,

600
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: a copy of the inquiry, copy whatever.

601
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: Staper spread everywhere.

602
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: He's got his notes everywhere, He's got his ship everywhere,

603
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: gum gum wrappers everywhere.

604
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: And then the wind starts whipping.

605
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: Through it and everything goes everywhere and Jim, it catches surprise.

606
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: It catches my surprise.

607
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: Every single time, every single time the wind blows through.

608
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 5: Wind before the wind kids really don't like wind blows

609
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 5: my Hongy wrapper around. It's just.

610
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: You don't handle the wind well. In golf, I don't

611
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: think either, do you no?

612
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 5: Because I hit the ball high.

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00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: That's right. You know you got a lot of loft

614
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: to your game.

615
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: Well, uh, we will be back I guess this Thursday.

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00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we'll be back next week.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll be talking about an Eagles win and Rubio.

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Speaker 5: Where you dining to tonight?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no water Actually tonight I actually went and got

621
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Speaker 9: a group of sandwich this afternoon.

622
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: We did that.

623
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I got, I got, I got a group of

624
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 9: sandwich at the Original and Original and actually the other

625
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Speaker 9: one on the Rockaway is open too.

626
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: But sadly the pomp Pavilion is done and maybe done forever.

627
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: Really they're thinking about they're thinking about shutting it down

628
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: and making it someone a developer or they've been talking

629
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Speaker 4: about possibility making it a hotel. So yeah, which is sad,

630
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: but but the Frenchies Rockaway is good.

631
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Speaker 1: I went to the original today, bellied up to the bar.

632
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Had did not have.

633
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: A b an adult beverage, but did get the grouper

634
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: sandwich the original.

635
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh man, that has delicious.

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00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: That has to be thinking about clear Water. Well, we'll

637
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: have plenty more to talk about Clearwater and the coming weeks.

638
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: Pictures and Catchers report on February.

639
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: Yes, good guests, talk, plenty of talk about Clearwater. We'll

640
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: break down, you know, Roster coming into camp. We got

641
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff plans, so we'll be back. We'll

642
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: be back next week.

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00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: That was fun. Guys. See on Monday.

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00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, after the Eagles game, go Eagles will smell you later.

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