1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Ronanian, you know, an oil change to me is the 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: foundation of maintaining an automobile. And judging by what I'm 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: seeing in the way that people are maintaining them, were 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: attempting to maintain them, I don't think they're doing a 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: very good job. You have tomorrow. Hall of things were gone, 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I'd work for all my life and I had to 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: start again with just my children and my wife. I 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: thank my lucky stars to be living here today because 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: the flag still stands for freedom and they can't take 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: that away. The Car Doctor, if the wrong stoker had 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: been installed with because that mess up the dippick, I 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: don't I don't want to say that we're wrong filter. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story like this. I've heard the 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: scenarios where certain filter brands don't retain the original shape 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: of the manufacturer. Well, welcome to the radio home of 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: ron and an Ian the Car Doctor, since this is 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. The 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: your calls At eight five five and now he running. 22 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: And God bless all our service people, UM, those that 23 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: are here this generation, past generations, and future generations for 24 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: all that they do to keep us safe and for 25 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: those that made the ultimate sacrifice. UM. Welcome to the 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: Memorial Day edition of The Car Doctor. A little tough 27 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: this year. It's always tough on Memorial Day for me personally, 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: on a on a personal note. Um uh, you know, 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: it's four years now. Uncle Steve has gone and I 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: always think of a Memorial Day. I mean, who couldn't write. 31 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: I think of him a lot during the course of 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: the week, during the course of my day. UM here, 33 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: but the Memorial Day is a little different without him, 34 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: and we're gonna try and revive that a little bit 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: today because coming up in the second hour, we've got 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: a great Uncle Steve interview from UM where I actually 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: called him out about his age and he got a 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: little feisty with me and you know, kind of had 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: that don't make me old before my time attitude. He 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: was ninety and I called him ninety one. UM. Yeah, Tom, 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: you know we may have some new listeners around. Uncle 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Steve is well, you know, good point. Uncle Steve UM 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: was really my father's brother. He was my real uncle Steve. 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: He was UM. My father had passed when I was 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: a little kid. I think, Uh, you know, if if 46 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: you're a regular listener here, you know that my father 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: passed when I was eleven, and um, uncle Steve then 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: became that father figure um in in in a sense. 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we we grew close and and 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: there was a lot of times, you know, he was 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: that guy that I called and talked to like a dad, 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: and how do I do this? And how do I 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: do that? And you know, he had that can do attitude. 54 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: And I didn't really understand who Uncle Steve was or 55 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: what it was about him that, you know, was the 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: attraction until I got older and I figured it out. 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: And it's really easy once you listened to him. You know, 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: he was a he was that he was. He was 59 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: part of that greatest generation, right that World War two 60 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: generation that we always talked about and referred to in 61 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: that way. And he was a P fifty one fighter pilot. 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: He was nineteen years old when even overseas when the 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: war broke out, and he was shot down three times. 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: He had countless stories. I'm questioning whether or not some 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: of them were true. Now about especially the one about 66 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: flying under the Eiffel Tower. Um, although I still think 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: I just you know, there's a lot of there's a 68 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: lot of proof that that really happened. Um, but you know, 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve was just he he was a badass. We 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: gotta say it like that. He just was. He was 71 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: part of that group. And um, you know, we we 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of step out of character a little bit every year. 73 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: And it started out as a simple conversation so many 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: years ago with him just talking out, how do they 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: maintain the planes? Because we kind of got mechanically curious. 76 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: We said, you know, how do they have they maintained 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: the planes? Because maintaining a fighter plane in combat conditions 78 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: there is a whole lot different than maintaining a fighter plane, 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, in an enclosed hangar with you know, heat 80 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: and and cool and and and and so forth. But 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: they did it, you know, the mechanics did it out 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: in the open in the fields of England. Um, you know, 83 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: falla mere England and uh, you know, places like that, 84 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: as the air fields dotted up and grew up across 85 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: the grew across the landscape of England, and um, you know, 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve talks a little bit about how you know, 87 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: they were working under mud and rain and all kinds 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: of crazy conditions. Um, and it's just it's just it's 89 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: a throwback and a reminder of Um, I'll tell you 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve's messages as it always was every year, that 91 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: freedom isn't free. And um, somebody did something and gave 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: up something and made the sacrifice for us to have 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: our freedom. And uh that's that's that's a large part 94 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: of what Uncle Steve's message to us was. So we 95 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: honor that today as uh as we honor all of 96 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: those that have the sacrifice to put us here. Um 97 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: that's Uncle Steve. So anyway, um ja, I gotta game 98 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: my train of thought. You're not talking about him? Gets 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: me going. I was gonna open up with this conversation. Uh, 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: you know. And this is the Wall Street Journal. Um, 101 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal had a recent article. It was 102 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: in the opinion section, and I read it with some fascination. 103 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: It talks about electric vehicles speeding ahead on a bridge 104 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: to nowhere, and the subtitle is neo liberals who want 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: to replace the internal combustion engine powered car with evs 106 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: or living in a fantasy world? Bold statement, right, I mean, 107 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: that's sort of a striking but I guess we're allowed 108 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: to say that. After all, this country is based on freedoms. 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: Were all out to have an opinion, and um, here's 110 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: an opinion out of the Wall Street Journal that they published, 111 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: and they must have some Uh, they must have a reason. 112 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: And maybe it's because there's some truth here, and we 113 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: always like to look for truth. I think that's what 114 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: this radio shows about. Um. The article continues. In the 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: electric vehicle Unicorn crash, Alyssa Finley mentions that four in 116 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: thirty four And I love it when they give numbers, 117 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: because numbers are you know, it's it's either true or 118 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: it's not. And I'm gonna believe it's true because it's publish, 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: because I don't think any major newspaper would set themselves 120 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: up for a debacle like this, at least not knowingly. 121 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Four hundred and thirty five thousand, almost electric vehicles were 122 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: sold in the US last year. This represents and this 123 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: is the thing that gets me, and I believe this 124 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: to be true. This represents less than three percent of 125 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: the fifteen million vehicles sold here in Global lithium mine 126 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: production reached a record high of a hundred thousand metric 127 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: tons last year. Six was used in electric vehicle battery construction, 128 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: the other used in lubricants, cell phones, and things like that. 129 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: The Electric tech News site estimates that the Tesla Model 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: S uses sixty three hundred thirty eight pounds of lithium 131 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: per electric vehicle, which means that if Testaly used every 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: available pound listen to this statement, every available pound of 133 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: worldwide lithium for modelisque battery construction, it could produce only 134 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: one million, forty thousand Model S evs a year. Think 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: about that. That is a bold statement. So where will 136 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: the batteries come from? That's my question. Granted, the Model 137 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: Less is a top end product that requires more lithium 138 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: than smaller revs, but the point is simple. Neoliberals their words, 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: not mine, who want to replace the internal combustion engine 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: powered car with the evs are living in a fantasy world. 141 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: To make matters worse, the US currently only has one 142 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: large scale active lithium mine in Nevada, with two more 143 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: proposed minds nearby, but the same kind of environmentally woke 144 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: folks who demand to move to an all EV fleet 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: or holding up the opening of those two minds in court. Unfancially, unfortunately, 146 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: the happy talk that defines a modern democratic party also 147 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: prevails in the EV industry. Russ Andrews Aspen, Colorado, UM 148 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: and you know, and again they it's gonna be it's 149 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: a political charge subject, right, and it's it's going to be. 150 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: It's just going to continue to get to be that. 151 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: But there are some valid numbers here, especially the one 152 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: that this is not the first time we've heard this. 153 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: You know, there was about a half a million EV 154 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: sold in the US last year and that's just less 155 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: than three per cent of the fifteen million, and you know, 156 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: the numbers don't match. Mark Mills came on and talked 157 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: about this, right. He talked about how if we wanted 158 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: to produce so many millions of cars and you know 159 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: the size of the fleet versus what we could actually 160 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: produce and what we can actually support in terms of manufacturing, 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: never mind charging electrically. And I, you know, I encourage 162 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: you to go find this. This This is on the Wall 163 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Street Journal. It's made it it's dated May, so it's 164 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: just this past week. So it's a fresh article to 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: a fresh conversation. And if you've got any thoughts about it, 166 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: you want to talk about it, I'm here zero nine zero. 167 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm here to talk to you about it, because that's 168 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: what this radio show is. We're gonna talk about electric vehicles. 169 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about things mechanical and whatever else your 170 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: heart desires. Um as we continue to push ahead, it 171 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: was a wild week in the shop I've got. I 172 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: don't know if we'll talk about some of the stories 173 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: it was. We walked out of there, we were we 174 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: were dead tired yesterday. UM uh, just just you know, 175 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: just to wear you out, kind of a week. A 176 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: lot of tires lately, Um, you guys are out on 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: the road again, and I think, uh, the pandemic is 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: catching up. We've noticed that a lot of tires are 179 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: dry rotted and cracked, and we look at the date 180 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: codes on them and they are six seven years old. 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: And it seems that the the the great let's rebuild 182 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: the fleet option is going on. And uh, we're gonna 183 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: talk about that this hour if you want to talk 184 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: about that too. But right now, let me pull over 185 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: and take a pause. Eight five five five six zero 186 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. The phones are lit up. When I 187 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: come back, we'll open the garage doors. Don't go away 188 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: for the best in car advice. Give Ron a call 189 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 190 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over to Dodge 191 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: and let's get over to Let's get over to Delaware 192 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: and talk to Dodge. Dodging Delaware. Dodging Delaware, Delaware and Dodge. Hey, 193 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: how are you Dodge? Welcome back? Hey? How are you on? Alright? Sir? 194 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? What's on your mind? First off, I 195 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: want to thank you for continually questioning about the e 196 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: V vehicles, the power, our grid, and how it's all 197 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: going to work, because I don't hear a lot of 198 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: other voices question this whole green deal. Thanks man. It's 199 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's hard to do because I take 200 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm not complaining. I just I read my I read 201 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: the comments, and you know, I'm taking a lot of 202 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: flak for it, and I just listen, I'm just being 203 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: an American man. I'm just expressing my opinion. I think 204 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm entitled and allowed to do that. Right. I got 205 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: kicked off of Twitter for doing it. Yeah, so that's okay. 206 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: I guess I'm in good company then, you know. So, 207 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: But um, and let me state this right now here, 208 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: and now for all those that are up there, that 209 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: are out there just saying, you know, Ron's trying to 210 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: disrupt the entire electric vehicle industry. I'm more than willing 211 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: to put anybody up here that's a proponent for it, 212 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: for it or against it. Let's just talk about it. 213 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: That's all I'm looking to do. So anyway, onto your question, 214 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: what's what's on your mind today? So this is what's 215 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: going on my car. It's not that important. But what 216 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I've noticed is when it's been going on for a 217 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: couple of years, when the temperature outside gets up in 218 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: the nineties and I got I gotta leave my vehicle, 219 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: and I turned the A C on temperature all the 220 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: way down low, turn the fan on all the way high, 221 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: turn the vehicle off, leave and then if I started 222 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: from in my house, when I got outside, the fan 223 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: will only be on the lowest setting until the fob 224 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: gets in the car, So the A C won't turn on. 225 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: I think the compressors running, but the fan always stays 226 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: on low until the fop goes in. Now was it 227 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: was it always like that Dodger? You don't remember. It's 228 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: been like that for a couple of years. I'm bizarre 229 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: about it when you do it with that the A 230 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: C off and the heat the fan is when the 231 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: fans on high until you get in the car with 232 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: the fop. Well, but if you if you set the 233 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: fan down low before you left the vehicle, you set 234 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: the fan up high. I turned the fan all the 235 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: way up, but during the A C all the way 236 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: down because you know, I want to cool off, right, 237 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: but the fans stays a low until the I mean like, 238 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: put this spob in through the open window and throw 239 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: the fob and see what and it turns up? Have 240 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: you has the vehicle had any software updates in its 241 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: history that you're aware of. I've gotten the software updates 242 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: that they contact me about. Have they done any of them? 243 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: You know? And I'm gonna say that if it's different 244 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: before versus after or the other way around, I'm gonna 245 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: say that perhaps one of those software updates changed something, 246 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: because obviously the key fob is having an input command 247 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: causing the system to react differently because there's no there's 248 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: there's no you know, there's no mechanical or diagnostic reason. 249 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: I can imagine if if I were to run a 250 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: code skin on that vehicle and it had no faults 251 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: in it, and it's it's you know, the conclusion is 252 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: it's operating as designed and then you have to look 253 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: at what's the design flaw here? Well, software is dictating 254 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: what's going on, and if there was a software change, 255 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, not all the software updates tell you every 256 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: reason you're getting that update. All right. Um, I don't 257 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: know what the rationale would be on preventing air conditioning 258 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: from working one of the vehicles on a remote start. 259 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they're trying to get you out of remote starting it. 260 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, this could be the black 261 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: helicopter conspiracy tin hat theory. Uh, you know concept here 262 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: that they don't want the vehicle idling that long for 263 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: whatever reason. And you know that's just the key fob 264 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: has to be in the vehicle for it to work 265 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: like you wanted to work. Um, you know I would 266 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: go ahead. You know the car only idle so long 267 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: on remote start that turns itself off anyway, right right right? Um. 268 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: If it's any consolation, my suburban does the same thing, 269 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: but it's done it since day one. If I remote 270 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: start my suburban, it will not operate the air conditioning. Um, 271 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: until I get in the vehicle and engage it. So, uh, 272 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, and what what's the reason behind that? I 273 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't get it either. I you know, 274 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they're thinking. I again, you know, 275 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: I think they don't want vehicles idling unless you're moving. 276 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's the whole is an environmental issue. 277 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Is that we're gonna prevent fuel economy issues, We're gonna 278 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: prevent pollution, We're gonna you know, um, the world doesn't 279 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense dodge all right. Uh you know, 280 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: I never even considered that. But you know, you've got 281 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: to look at you know, I see a lot of 282 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: things in the day to day. You know that just 283 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: makes no sense to me about the way we operate things. 284 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: And um, my eyes are only getting opened wider as 285 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: I get older, and I'm seeing more and more of 286 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: the things that happen and why and uh, you know 287 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: it's I look back. It's funny. I was thinking this 288 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: week about the evolution of a mission controls and how 289 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: our mission controls came to be, and I think about 290 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the nightmares of the of the late seventies in the 291 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: early eighties, when my got everything had a vacuum line 292 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: to it, and just the controls and trying to you know, 293 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: trying to do a mission controls on a carburetted vehicle. Man, 294 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: it was like it was like trying to spit into 295 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: the wind and get it to go on that in 296 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. It just it just couldn't happen. It 297 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: was just so involved in complex and I look at 298 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: how vehicles have evolved now in terms of what they're doing. 299 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: I had a U I had an O five pt 300 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: cruiser in the shop this week that had a failure 301 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: of I gotta tell the story this way. So it 302 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: was in the shop two weeks ago because it was 303 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: setting misfire faults and so it had a P zero 304 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: three oh five P zero three oh four misfire on 305 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: cylinder four and had a P zero three thirty five 306 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: crank censor fault, which are kind of you know, they're 307 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: they're sort of same, but they're not. And I couldn't 308 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: produce any crank censor issues. I scoped it. I scoped 309 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: the camp censor. They both looked great. They were rock 310 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: solid signals. Both then sink, no difference, no deviation. There 311 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: was only four degrees of variation in the belt slap, 312 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: so that wasn't an issue. And but I could I 313 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: could prove the misfire problem. I could sit there and 314 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: listen to it, and I would hear a tik tik 315 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: tik tik tik, like there was an external arc from 316 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: the coil going to ground. And you know, you get 317 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: to be it a little bit of a loss because 318 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: here's a car that's fifteen almost sixteen years old, and 319 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: and the technology, and you're used to a newer modern 320 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: I started thinking, Ron, you're getting soft. You used to 321 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: fix harder things than this, back when there were vacuum 322 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: hoses on carburetors. Long story short, it had a bead coil. 323 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: I pulled it apart to plugs, wires and a coil 324 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: fix the misfire, gave the car back to the customers. 325 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: She's a great customer, um she's been with us for 326 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: years and years and years. And I said, you know, 327 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: there's this three thirty fivefold for crank sensor that I 328 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: can't pin down. I I'm not sure what's going on here, 329 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: but you know I fixed what I knew was bad. 330 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: I solve the misfire. Take it away. She takes it away. 331 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: A couple of days go by, the car starts stalling, 332 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: and its stalls, and it just stalled at random. She 333 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: gets up to a stop sign, it stall. She'd call 334 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: me up. She'd go listen, and she says, and it 335 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: cranks funny, which I noticed, the funny crank and actually 336 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: when I had the misfire problem, but I didn't have 337 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: that problem afterwards. And she would hold her cell phone 338 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: to the you know, she's got her arm out the 339 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: window and she's cranking, and I go, yeah, it does 340 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: sound funny. There is something weird going on there, so 341 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: bring it back. She brings it back. I go through it. 342 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: I tested everything I could under the sun on this car. 343 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: I couldn't, I couldn't reproduce I did. I did a 344 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: short to power test. I loaded the power of the 345 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: signal lines going up to the e c U. I 346 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: went through everything. I said, you know what, there's something 347 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: about this that's familiar. It's not a crank sensor, it's 348 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: a CAM sensor. And I ran through my notes from 349 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: umpteen years ago, and I found the notes I took 350 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: in class the night where I wrote down where the 351 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: instructor told us that you'll get a crank censor fault. 352 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: But it's really not the crankshaft position censor. It's the 353 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: camshaft position censer because they both share a common five 354 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: volt line and there's a short to power that's pulling 355 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: down the crank signal. But it doesn't necessarily set a 356 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: camp code. It sets a crank code. And my point 357 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: becomes the way they write the software and the way 358 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: they come up with and expect us to diagnose these 359 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: things just continues to evolve and change. I put Camon 360 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: frank centers into the cars fixed in your case, it 361 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: could be in the software, brother, and that's where I 362 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: would stop to consider what might have happened. Appreciate the 363 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: call until the next time I'm runing any in the 364 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Dot Cam. 365 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Whind me in the car doctor here at 366 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: five five five zero zero the Car Doctor phone number. 367 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: Pick up the phone, give us a call, leave a message, 368 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: Tom Ray, We'll call you back and get you in 369 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: the next live broadcast. Let's get over to John in 370 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: Michigan wants to chat electrics. John, Welcome to the show. 371 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: How can I help you tonight? Yes, I've heard previous 372 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: discussions about how prohibitive the costs of electronic cars are 373 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: in the batteries and all the drawbacks. But I can't 374 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: think of any technology since the eighties that didn't get 375 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: better and cheaper. And it has been in the news 376 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: that Ford thinks they can come up with a battery 377 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: that charges in a matter of minutes. Um. But I 378 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: just think of when the first things I saw in 379 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: this microelectronic revolution with the digital watches that cost more 380 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: than a hundred dollars, and now you can get them 381 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: for for less than five dollars sometimes, and I couldn't 382 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Listen, I don't think 383 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: when they flew at Kittie Hawk, you know, nobody was 384 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: saying they wouldn't go to the moon, and just you 385 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: know when we did in a relatively short time, right, 386 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: we did it with like seventy years later. Um. You know, 387 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely spot on. I think things are 388 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: going to get cheaper and things are going to get better. 389 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: The question is is the timetable they've got set up? 390 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: And and this is I'm just asking this question for 391 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: your opinion, Um, you know, is it is the timetable 392 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: they've got set up about, you know, phasing out internal 393 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: combustion engine in some states, a lot of states by five? 394 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: Is that feasible? That's only seven year? Is a way 395 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: fifteen years away? Do you think they can? It won't happen. 396 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: Certainly they'll change their plans. But it just seems to 397 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: me that a certain party, ever on Twitter for years, 398 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: has been almost praying for the electric car to fail 399 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: and ridiculing it and anyone that buys them, And I 400 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: just think it's stupid. Well, so you think this is 401 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: you think that you're saying it's getting political already or 402 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: it has been political, but it has been right, so 403 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: you're you're you're blaming I mean, you're blaming the Republicans, 404 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: is what you're telling me. I'm not saying it. But 405 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: what a tree hugger? Words like that, and what do 406 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: they call it? The green movement? I mean? So let 407 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: me let me ask you this question. All right, um, 408 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: do you want an electric vehicle? I can't afford one yet, 409 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: and I may not be driving by the time I can. 410 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: How old are you? Seventy? It? So you know you 411 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: don't think you'll be driving in ten years? I'm not 412 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: sure I'll be alive based on my family history. Yeah, 413 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that. Listen, evolution and technology is 414 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: always going to march forward, right. Um, you know that article. 415 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard the article I read talking about 416 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal at the beginning, And I'm glad 417 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: you called John. I'm glad you had the guts the 418 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: call because a lot of guys just don't want to 419 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: talk about this. Isn't it? Isn't it kind of bothersome? 420 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: If these numbers are right, the article in the Wall 421 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Street Journal that there was, let's round it off, half 422 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: a million electric vehicles were sold in the US last year. 423 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: That's just three of the fifteen million vehicles sold here 424 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: in twenty one. And when they compare that percentage to 425 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: the amount of a value available lithium and current technology, 426 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: it's they just can't build much more than that. Isn't 427 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: that sort of bothersome? That this whole electric thing is 428 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: being thrown at us and saying, hey, hey, we've got 429 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: to do this, and we're going to do this in 430 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: such a short period of time. But you know, it's 431 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: kind of like the road to nowhere. We're being told 432 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: here's where we're going, but the bridge ends. Watch out 433 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 1: for the detour. Well, I'm glad they're trying, and they 434 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: can change their plans as they go. But we might 435 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: see a new technology. We you and I don't know 436 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: about it. Well, we might, and we might and we might. 437 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: So let me tell you from my perspective right, um, 438 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: the things I hear down in the shop at at 439 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: shop level is some of the scan tools that we've 440 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: invested in are no longer going to be developed or 441 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: not being developed any further because the manufacturers have mandated 442 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: because of this seven year or fifteen year phase out 443 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: of internal combustion engine. So those scan tools are now 444 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: being done away with. There's no further software support being added. 445 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: They don't foresee that they're going to develop anymore hardware. 446 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: There's no need, they say, because we'll all be in 447 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: electric vehicles. You know, we're slowly throwing the switch towards 448 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: the electric vehicle future. But what if the tracks don't 449 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: go anywhere? And that's the that's the problem. That situation 450 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: can be remedied if it in the worst case. Okay, 451 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: so you're start making those things again. So well, no, 452 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, you're saying, so if we go 453 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: if we go ten years down the road and we've 454 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: done We've lost ten years of development of software and 455 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: scan tools and tooling for internal combustion engine and we 456 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: switched to e V. You think we can switch and 457 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: go right back to an internal combustion engine just like that, 458 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: that quickly. I'm not in a position to say that, 459 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: but I think, but you did say that. I have 460 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: faith that somehow the world will go on and or 461 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: go back to it somehow, Well it will, but it 462 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: will live without all that stuff for a long time, right, 463 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and we will go back to it. John. If that's 464 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: the case, what you have today is going to be 465 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: obsolete and how many years anyway? Well, but the point 466 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: becomes that we're being told already the switch has already 467 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: been thrown. And you know what, listen, I've been I've 468 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: been an auto mechanic for forty five years. If I 469 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: wasn't the one to embrace technology, I don't know who does. 470 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I live with it every day, and so everybody else 471 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: out there fixing cars. You know, we're just seeing technology 472 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: being thrown at us that isn't ready, that there doesn't 473 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: seem to be viable solutions. And you know, what do 474 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: you think about the idea that the possibility. What do 475 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: you say to you know, where will the power come from? Are? 476 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: I guess you're gonna tell me that we're gonna charge 477 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: everything from the sun. I'm not qualified to say anything 478 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: at all about it, about any of these issues, but 479 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: the key word you used to see right, Oh well, listen, 480 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you on a lot of your points. 481 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: I just want to see how it gets carried out. 482 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: If someone tells me, if someone tells me this is 483 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: the future, I want to see how we're going to 484 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: get there. I want an explanation because I don't have 485 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 1: complete blind faith. Um, and I think it's our right 486 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: to question it. So whether you agree or not, that's 487 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: up to you. Um, you know. But as I said, 488 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're called. I really am. I'm glad we 489 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: had this conversation that a six cylinder car could get 490 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: thirty plus miles a gallon, maybe some of them even 491 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: get already. Who would have believe that? In well, sure, 492 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: like I said, who would have believed you know, from 493 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: Kitty Hawk to you know, landing on the Moon in 494 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine. Um, you know, it's there's a lot 495 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: of validity there. But again, We don't have seventy years. 496 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: We have seven, all right, And that's the point we're 497 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: we're we're being thrown a technology that we don't seem 498 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: to be able to embrace. And you know, I don't 499 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: get it as I'm asking you the questions. I've asked 500 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: everybody the same questions, where will it come from? And 501 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: I get the same answer. Don't worry, it's gonna happen. 502 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: You know what. Somebody wrote me and made an harassing 503 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: statement about Ron. You're being closed minded because you know 504 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna happen, just like you know transportation we 505 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: see at a star trek will happen at some point 506 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: in the future too. Yeah, Star Trek happened five years 507 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: from now. Um, you know it's not happening today. So 508 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 1: you know what, if you're gonna make an argument for something, 509 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: you've got to have roof of it. You've got to 510 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: be able to sit there and say two and two 511 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: is four. Don't give me the what ifs um. But 512 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. John. I'm more than glad to 513 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: talk to anybody about it. I want to know where 514 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: we're going. I just I'm looking for information. Zero nine 515 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: zero we're back right after this. Welcome back, ran the 516 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: car Doctor rolling along the Saturday zero zero. Let's get 517 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: over to Elsa and Maine. Oh four Honda Civic and 518 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: a n AC problem. Welcome to the car Doctor. How 519 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: can I help? Hi? Ron, thank you for taking my call. Well, 520 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: I have a two thousand four Honda Civic and I 521 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: I have been taken care of it in the meantime, 522 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: no getting oil, et cetera. I checked some fluids myself. Uh. 523 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: I brought it to my dos because and I've been 524 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: dealing with him with them because there was noise. There 525 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: is still noise when I started up, and then once 526 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: I get going it quiets down a little bit. That 527 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: I when I put my foot on the brake, it's quiet, 528 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: but when I put my foot on the uh speed 529 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: uh speed, Uh yeah, it makes noise. But in any case, 530 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: I went there and I told him what the problem was, 531 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: and I said, I need to tune up because it's 532 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: been a while, and can you check the air conditioning, 533 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: which they did. They tuned it up and they did 534 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: some engine labor. They decided was a valve cover gasket 535 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: set that I needed and a double platinum plug. Then 536 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: the annditioning. They put a R M F G compressor in. 537 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: They put a serpent serpentine belt on, They evacuated purge 538 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: and recharged the a C. They put outward viterent in 539 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: leak style system oil and it's I didn't check it 540 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: in between because I trusted that it was done and 541 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: it would work. But then when the warmer weather started, 542 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: which was really recent, it's a blue hot air and 543 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: I tried it several times. So my daughter suggested, you know, mom, 544 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: why don't you bring it to v I P. So 545 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: titled in the neighborhood went to v I P. They 546 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: checked it out. I don't know. They checked everything out. 547 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: I told them what had been done but had been installed. 548 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: They did a multi pomp sports vehicle inspection alignment checks, 549 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: they checked for this in capital at as a C leak, 550 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: a dash leak uh she leak detection, and they did 551 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: some labor. They said everything was fine. But what occurred 552 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: to me, though, after I had all that previous work done, 553 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: that uh they charged me um. It was a second 554 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: hand it was not a new one UM compressor, I believe, 555 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: which the first place elsa right, the first place in right. 556 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: What they did was from what you're describing, and I 557 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: assume you're reading off the repair order what you're describing 558 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: as they put a re manufactured a C compressor on 559 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: the car. So but but, but, but listen, let's let's 560 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: get to the chase, because it's only a one hour show. 561 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: So let's let's do it like this. The first place, 562 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, did you authorize the replacement 563 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: of the compressor? Did they say to you, hey, Elsa, 564 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: this is the problem. The compressor's bed and they put 565 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: a compressor on it. What did they talk to you 566 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: about that? First? Yes, they didn't want to charge me 567 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: a thousand dollar price, so they had in mind a 568 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: secondhand one. Okay, well it's not secondhand. It's just not 569 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: a new compressor. A reman means that it was rebuilt 570 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: somewhere by some outside shop, somebody other than Honda. So regardless, 571 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: did you go back to the first shop and say, hey, 572 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: the A C still doesn't work. Can you take a 573 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: look at it? No, But that's my next question to you, right, 574 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: why why wouldn't you do? You should do that? I mean, um, 575 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: did they did they recently do the compressor? So? So 576 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: March of this year, so less than three months ago 577 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: they did. They did an a C compressor. Yeah, it's listen. 578 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't be I wouldn't be at V 579 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: I P or anybody else. I would be back to 580 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: the shop that did it. Look, you know, have they 581 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: been your have they been your shop for a while. 582 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Do you have a relationship with them? Do you feel yes? OK, 583 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: so I feel that. Yeah, if you feel comfortable with them. Look, 584 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: it happens to everybody, it happens to me. I'll put 585 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: a part on a car. I'll think it's the best 586 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: part in the world. It's a new part um. I've 587 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: got a great story coming up in the next couple 588 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: of weeks about alexis that we did uh knuckles and 589 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 1: wheel bearings in less than three miles ago, and we 590 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: can't figure out why the bearings failed. The manufacturer can't 591 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: figure out why the bearings failed. Things happen, you know, 592 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: there's an X file side to the to the order 593 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: repair of business. It just makes no sense why things happen, 594 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: and you've got to give them the benefit of the doubt. 595 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: I would go. I would be back there and say, hey, guys, 596 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: you know what's up now? You know is it possible 597 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: that the new compressor's bed. Sure, is it possible that 598 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: there's a leak in the system that they didn't see 599 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: the first time? Absolutely? But until they until absolutely listen, 600 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: it could be good on Tuesday and bed on Wednesday. 601 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: Do you ever buy you ever buy something electronic and 602 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: have it failed the day after you bought it? I 603 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: have right, it's it's new, doesn't mean good. New means 604 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: never ever worked in my library, kiddo. So I think 605 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: before we have a big, much longer conversation, I think 606 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: it's back to the original repair shop as them to 607 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: take a look, um, you know, this is what you know, 608 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: and and start there and see how they handle it. 609 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, remember this auto repairs like a marriage. It's 610 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: not how great things are when everybody's happy and things 611 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: are rolling along all right. It's when there's a problem. 612 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: How do you work it out? And do you resolve 613 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: it to everybody's satisfaction? Now the heats on them. Let's 614 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: see how they stand up. Can they take the heat? 615 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: You call me back if you need more else. I 616 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. Go get them eight five zero zero. 617 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: The car doctors back right after this, welcome back, very lively. 618 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: Hour just just a lot of fun this hour eight zero. 619 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: The phone number. Put it away somewhere you can use 620 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 1: it in the following broadcast. You can call and leave 621 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: a message and Tom Rae will hook you up and 622 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: put you in the next live broadcast for Elsa from Maine, 623 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: if she's still out there. Um, you know else I 624 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: was thinking about this and uh I jumped into the 625 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: Mitchell one shirt track community website. Shut Track is a 626 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: collection of well real life stories from the repair shop, 627 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: things that happened to fix vehicles and um, you know 628 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: it's it's live from the base if you would, it's 629 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: what's really going on under the hood. And this one 630 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: is fresh. This one is from May of this year 631 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: by Nick Taylor. He's the author. Um, he's been with 632 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: Mitchell one for a very long time. You can check 633 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: him out at mitchell one dot com. UH talks about 634 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, this is every every shop's nightmare, right. They 635 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: were working on a two thousand two GMC envoy and 636 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: it talks about the tool a tool accidentally dropped against 637 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: the battery and short of the positive and negative terminals 638 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: while the vehicle was in for a head gas get repair. 639 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: After the head gas get repair was done. After they 640 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: picked up the ratchet that had short of the positive 641 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: and negative terminals. The car would not start and there 642 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: was no cranking. They found that the main fuse is 643 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: a M fuse and under her fuse box was bad. 644 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: They replaced it. It's it still wouldn't crank. Um or sorry, 645 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: it would crank and everything would work at the fuse box, 646 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: but they just wouldn't allow the vehicle to start. And 647 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: they're thinking like, oh my god, was it something related 648 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: to the ratchet that short of the battery positive negative terminals? 649 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: Of course you'd think that you had the engine apart. 650 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: There's so many variables, so many things to look at. 651 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: It turns out that because of the shirt track community, 652 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: everybody chimed in and was talking about it. Somebody suggested, hey, 653 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: why don't we go through basic power and grounds at 654 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: the PCM. They did that. They found a bad ground 655 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: for the PCM that had nothing to do with any 656 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: of the work that was done. The ratchet that fell 657 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: against the battery posts. They cleaned the ground. Vehicle fired 658 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: right up and without the helpful things like shirt track 659 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: community and Mitchell One, it just wouldn't have happened. So 660 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: Elsa it could be something unrelated to the A C 661 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: compressure that they did go back and talk to the shop. 662 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: That's the key. More information at mitchell one dot com. 663 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: By the way, until the next time I'm runing any 664 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: of the car doctor reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, 665 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you. She was staring super