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Speaker 1: Lions of the Lions, the Tigers and their win today,

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Speaker 1: day in baseball. Four games going on today throughout a

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Speaker 1: an interesting one. All right, all that upcoming, Plus, let's

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Speaker 1: talk to Major League Baseball playoffs. We got NFL to

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Speaker 1: talk about. The best way to talk about it is

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Speaker 1: something that I think Dan Byer came up with Jase

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Speaker 1: Do put into play. We've been doing it this entire

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Speaker 1: season that consists of four weeks. It's a way of

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Speaker 1: looking back at the weekend but trying to get to

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Speaker 1: stories that everyone missed yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Little Tuesday kid, this is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Mondays can be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we

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Speaker 2: didn't get.

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Speaker 3: To on Monday.

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Speaker 2: This is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what we got to? I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: we spend a little time on the Giants and their defense,

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Speaker 1: and the Chargers and their injuries. A little time on Pittsburgh, Buffalo, good,

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Speaker 1: New Orleans bad. No one really talked about that one.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee feels like a dumpster fire. I'm just thinking. I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking that the things that we got to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but I'd rather than not have Sam

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Speaker 4: up the what what the articles are?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I come on, I was trying to say, this

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Speaker 1: is what everybody talked about, people talk about all right,

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Speaker 1: So you guys are obviously chomping at the bit this one.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Dan, Let's start with you. What what's the

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Speaker 1: biggest story we missed on yesterday that we need to

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Speaker 5: Well, there is a play that happened on Sunday that

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Speaker 5: I don't think people are talking about nearly as much

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Speaker 5: as they should.

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Speaker 6: And it sounded like this on Fox you know what

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Speaker 6: to do wrong?

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Speaker 3: One ready?

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Speaker 2: Oh CHICKI he walks in touchdown Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I was wanting to play calls a little bit longer.

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Speaker 6: It's like he was getting a few extra works out

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Speaker 6: of his mouth.

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Speaker 5: Lining up in the tush push formation, the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 5: run a play to Saquon Barkley out of that formation,

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Speaker 5: not just Jalen Hurts diving forward for a yard. They

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Speaker 5: stored on a six yard touchdown run. And I think it,

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Speaker 5: in my mind, validated the reason on why you keep

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Speaker 5: the tush push here.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton was on Orange and Blue today and the

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Speaker 5: Broncos head coach had this to say about why he

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Speaker 7: I was one that stood up in favor of. The

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Speaker 7: reason I stood up in favor of is pretty simple.

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Speaker 7: If the powers to be don't want it for esthetic

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Speaker 7: safest play in football, my bullet nose kind of went up.

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Speaker 7: Look at the quarterback sneak. You know, as long as

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Speaker 5: So a lot of push for the tush push to

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Speaker 3: This past weekend.

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Speaker 4: Good for Sean Payton. That was amazing that the end there,

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Speaker 3: Doing the injury thing, yes, the player.

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Speaker 4: Safety thing, like he's basically calling BS on all of this,

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Speaker 4: the play was dangerous. Good for Sean Payton, by the way,

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Speaker 4: let me ask you guys, this okay, a play off

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Speaker 4: Like the defense has probably schemed all week for a

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Speaker 1: It does, It does, But I'm with Dan. I love

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Speaker 1: it when I saw it. Now the first time they

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Speaker 5: There's also just the there's going to be a time,

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Speaker 5: I think where this is stopped by the Eagles. But

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Speaker 5: even if you're one of the thirty one other teams,

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Speaker 5: doesn't this show you that there is a different way

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Speaker 5: And now teams are having to worry about, say it's Buffalo,

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Speaker 3: It's not just a one trick pony. If you will,

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Speaker 3: it's amazing. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I've been the team Toush Push for a long time.

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Speaker 4: I was glad that it stayed in and I love

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Speaker 4: the fact that Sean Payton is calling bs on guys

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Speaker 4: like a Doug's buddy Mark Murphy. It was disingenuous to

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Speaker 4: go to this player safety thing from the get go.

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Speaker 4: It's just I can't stop this play. We need to

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Speaker 4: I think that's why the Toush Pushes has gone through

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Speaker 4: it because this is such a pro offense league, and

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Speaker 4: the Toush Pushes is an offensive play.

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Speaker 3: I think the next play.

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Speaker 4: That's going to get banned, just just my theory, is

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Speaker 4: the punching fumbles, the intentional pounding of the ball out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I see it though, I

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Speaker 1: just don't. I mean, I again, punching the football out

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Speaker 1: they like it, don't. I know? You think you put

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Speaker 1: that in the group chat this weekend. I'n't agree with it.

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Speaker 5: I think that that's that's an interesting thought. I like

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Speaker 5: the thought process on it, especially when the NFL was

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Speaker 5: I think at one point promoting the because it's the

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Speaker 5: peanut punch from Charles Tillman.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 5: I think the Seahawks legion of Boom also did it

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Speaker 5: but their defensive backs were taught to do the same thing.

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Speaker 5: Now everybody else is doing it. It does when you

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Speaker 5: So it's kind of anti of what you want to

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Speaker 5: they get five or ten yards more they do, sure,

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Speaker 5: but that would be interesting if the NFL did a

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Speaker 4: I think that there's like this the whenever I see

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Speaker 4: I think that's that that isn't covered enough. Like if

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Speaker 4: hurting players, what about all of them missed fumble punches.

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Speaker 6: You miss in something really bad might happen. You might

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Speaker 1: Not really it did. I guess, Okay, what about you there, Sam?

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Speaker 1: Something we missed.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if we missed this so much. I

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Speaker 4: This in first of all, bad way to start. Uh,

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Speaker 4: it's gotta be something we missed.

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Speaker 6: Allow me to uh mean, to narrate my wax poetic Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: It's still morning in Hawaii, but afternoon in the continental

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Speaker 6: United States.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback here because this is the truth.

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Speaker 6: It's ten ten in the morning in Hawaii. Still morning, Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Morning, Sam, Sam, It's like thirty seconds of wasted time.

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Speaker 6: Dude, sounds like a Doug Gotlog show to me.

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Speaker 1: Uh, okay, we're moving on a jau something Jay suh.

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Speaker 1: Something that that you that we missed.

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Speaker 4: We got a tweet about this segment just ten minutes

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Speaker 4: ago saying, oh, it's that segment where Doug overly compliments

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Speaker 4: Bryce Young every single week.

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Speaker 1: I'm not compilating Bryce Young this week. It was two

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Speaker 1: weeks in a row, and I'd moved on.

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Speaker 4: Okay, because AFO Announcing did a headline the Doug's glowing

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Speaker 4: coverage of Bryce Young is getting Bryce old. So Brian

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Speaker 4: Dayball Malik Neighbors and Jackson Dart all are subjects of

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Speaker 4: my Tuesday Morning Quarterback and it's pretty simple. Last week,

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Speaker 4: Jackson Dark got the start, and it was our theory

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Speaker 4: that this is basically the hail Mary to keep Brian

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Speaker 4: Daball's job. Sure, if the rookie does well, he probably

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Speaker 4: gets an extension. If he doesn't, we probably say goodbye.

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Speaker 4: I will say that Malik neighbors injury helps Brian Daball.

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Speaker 4: How you say, because the expectations now are lowered. Even

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Speaker 4: more so if Jackson Dart shows progress and anything that

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Speaker 1: See they should let walk. That's that's the big one, Doug.

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Speaker 5: Six last last four years. I'll say twelve twelve.

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Here's we're

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Are you you set up shopping the couch?

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Speaker 8: So I'm not surprised that he was able to shut

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Speaker 1: Okay, watching Cubs and Patres cobs up to one bottom,

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Speaker 1: five two outs. Uh. Coming into the season, what coming

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Speaker 1: the season, come into the series, what'd you think of

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Speaker 8: Well, I've been heavily on the on the Padres. Uh.

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Speaker 8: You know, I love their bullpen.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And I thought I thought they were similar to the

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Speaker 8: Dodgers and last year and how the Dodgers won the

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Speaker 8: World Series that if their starters could go four or

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Speaker 8: five innings, they turn it over to to four or

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Speaker 8: five guys that could be closers on most teams. The

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Speaker 8: fact that it's a really feel you know, I think

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Speaker 8: that changes things a little bit because that is a

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Speaker 8: it is a pretty distinct home field advantage. It's a

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Speaker 8: you know, it looks like it's a great environment to play.

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Speaker 8: These three game series is are very hard to predict.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think talent wise, I think the Padres

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Speaker 8: are a more talented team, but these game ones are

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Speaker 8: so important that like right now the Cubs have a

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Speaker 8: two to one, two to one lead, it's only the

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Speaker 8: fifth inning, but you know, it's it's it's just like

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Speaker 8: you know, you just saw with the Indians and the

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Speaker 8: and the and the and the Tigers. Now now the

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Speaker 8: going to tomorrow, and now all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 8: pressure is all switched to the Indians. Just like if

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Speaker 8: you know, if if the Cubs can hold off the

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Speaker 8: Padres in this game, you know, now the Padres are

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Speaker 8: staring the end of their season right in the face,

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Speaker 8: and anything can happen in one game. So that's what's

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Speaker 8: so intriguing. I think about these three games series is

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Speaker 8: is that really it's it's you know, it's it's better

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Speaker 8: than a one game, but it's still not necessarily the

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Speaker 8: best roster that's going to win, uh these serieses. But

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Speaker 8: I like the Padres team a lot. I like their

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Speaker 8: I like their bullpen most But we'll see if that

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Speaker 8: ends up.

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Speaker 1: Mattering Matt Holiday our guest seven time All Star, four

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Speaker 1: time Silver sluger Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers Reds. You know, jayse dou he thought they were

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Speaker 1: chokers until they won the World Series. He's really nervous

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Speaker 1: about this group. It's playing well going into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but especially the back end of that bullpen. What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts in the matchup with Reds?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think it's interesting when when you

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Speaker 8: when you put Hunter Green on the mound again in

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Speaker 8: these short serieses. I mean, the Dodgers obviously are the

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Speaker 8: better team and have more talent, but this first game,

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Speaker 8: I mean Hunter Green, I think he threw the most

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Speaker 8: pitches over one hundred miles an hour this year by

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Speaker 8: like a hundred or something. You know, just a ton

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Speaker 8: of great arm, tremendous uh stuffs. So you know, again,

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Speaker 8: the first game is a bit of a toss up.

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Speaker 8: You know, when you start talking about you know, some

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Speaker 8: anything can happen. But I like the Dodgers. I mean

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Speaker 8: I think that they're there their talent of having you know,

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Speaker 8: three they got three m vps. And then you know

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Speaker 8: they have obviously have have a lot of a lot

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Speaker 8: of uh great players and and uh, you know, the

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Speaker 8: Snell has been good. I mean obviously he's one of

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Speaker 8: si young in both leagues. Can get a little wild,

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Speaker 8: uh last three outings though, I think he's He's pitched unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: So I think the Dodgers sit comfortably in that series.

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Speaker 8: But I imaged in tonight's game, I think Snell versus

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Speaker 8: Green is as a fun matchup to watch hitters try

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Speaker 8: to try to navigate those two uh two pitchers. But

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Speaker 8: it's like again, a short series. I would if I

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Speaker 8: had to bet my house, I'd take the Dodgers. But

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Speaker 8: I think tonight will at least be a fun game.

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Speaker 1: Yankees Red Sox. Of course, when you play for the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: you guys lost to the Astros in the playoffs. Now

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Speaker 1: now it's the Red Sox. What's it like in that

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Speaker 1: clubhouse or like, is it is it really different when

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Speaker 1: it's playoffs?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think the playoffs are always you

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Speaker 8: know that the excitement and the the the intensity, the

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Speaker 8: pressure of the the uh just the the buzz in

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Speaker 8: the city, the buzz and the ballpark. And now every

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Speaker 8: every out, every pitch, you know, the fans are on

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Speaker 8: their feet, every pitch is so magnified. It is it's

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Speaker 8: totally different. I mean it really is. And then you

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Speaker 8: know you combine that with the Red Sox and the

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Speaker 8: Yankees rivalry. I mean I would feel I would feel

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Speaker 8: better about the Red Sox chances if they were healthy,

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Speaker 8: completely healthy, if Romin Anthony was there, and you know,

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Speaker 8: maybe I don't know who else, but I really would

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Speaker 8: feel better about their chances. But the Yankees have been

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Speaker 8: playing so well lately at home. But again, like we

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Speaker 8: talked about, Garrett, Crochet can go out there and shut

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Speaker 8: anybody down. And if he goes out there tonight and

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Speaker 8: shuts out the Yankees, and all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 8: Red Sox have a ton of momentum going in tomorrow

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Speaker 8: and you're in a one game situation where anything can happen,

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Speaker 8: and next thing you know, you just might you know,

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Speaker 8: Red Sox might be able to sneak out of there,

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Speaker 8: but Crochet is is is very, very difficult to deal with,

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Speaker 8: and so it'll be interesting to see how he pitches.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think he's had success against Judge two

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Speaker 8: for fourteen, but both of those two were home runs.

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Speaker 8: So how do you navigate whether you're going to pitch

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Speaker 8: to him or not pitch to him? You go after

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Speaker 8: him or do you you know, you kind of pitch

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Speaker 8: around him. Most of their other you know, Stanton's hot

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Speaker 8: right now, but I would probably you know, most of

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Speaker 8: their other their best hitters are left handed. So it'll

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Speaker 8: be interesting to see what he does with Judge and

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Speaker 8: and Stanton and Uh in the middle of the order.

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Speaker 1: Last thing, why not use abs in the playoffs? Why wait?

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Speaker 1: Till next year.

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Speaker 8: Gosh, I don't know. I don't know. It's I mean,

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Speaker 8: it's just I've been waiting for it. I still think

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Speaker 8: two challenges is not enough, and be announced for next

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Speaker 8: year would be two challenges per team. I think three

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Speaker 8: is the minimum that it should be. And I'm okay

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Speaker 8: with giving each player one, uh to you know, use

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Speaker 8: when he wants that way, if he's wrong, it only

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Speaker 8: finishes him and not the whole team. But you know,

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Speaker 8: we'll see. I'm with you. I mean, you use it

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Speaker 8: in the All Star Game. You announced it for next year.

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Speaker 8: These are the biggest games of the season. Why not

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Speaker 8: why not put it in? We have the technology. Everybody

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Speaker 8: seems in favor of it, so much so that we

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Speaker 8: voted in for next year. I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thanks for cleaning up for me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, sorry at answer.

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Speaker 1: For sometimes sometimes I don't know? Is is the answer.

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Speaker 1: He's not holiday. Uh, he's out of a ball field,

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Speaker 1: watching ball on the screen in front of him and

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Speaker 1: talking ball on the phone. You're the best man. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us.

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Speaker 8: No problem to.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports. Radio.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, Doug, something interesting happened earlier today in Minnesota

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Speaker 5: and the FISA. Collier, star player for the Minnesota Links,

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Speaker 5: sat down and read a statements prior to meeting with

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Speaker 5: the media, and the statement was then all out to

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Speaker 5: attack on the WNBA's front office, specifically Commissioner Kathy Engelbert.

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Speaker 5: Now call your dressed a variety of issues with poor

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Speaker 5: officiating in the league.

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Speaker 1: Let me help you here. So Callier got hurt when

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Speaker 1: she was dribbling the ball at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: It got stolen and her leg made contact with the

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Speaker 1: woman who stole the ball from him. If you watch

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Speaker 1: the replay, the steel was clean. Like her coach went

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Speaker 1: crazy after the game, got suspended after the game. If

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Speaker 1: you watch the video, the steal was clean. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter with these women. They don't care about reality because

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Speaker 1: they live in this alternate universe where I promise you

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Speaker 1: they think everybody's out to get them. It's like again,

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Speaker 1: and all she's doing is echoing the sentiment of her

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Speaker 1: head coach, who wants a change atop the leadership with officiating.

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Speaker 1: Like okay, so all you want again, let's just remember

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Speaker 1: all you want is people that say yes. All you

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Speaker 1: want is people that say yes. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: the WNBA part of the initial statement was that the

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Speaker 1: reason for the CBA being as it is is for sustainability,

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Speaker 1: and she doesn't believe that. Again, it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: reality is financially to anybody. They don't care about Nafisia,

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Speaker 1: CALLI or anything. They don't care about reality. Pay us

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Speaker 1: everything that we believe we deserve, regardless of whether or

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Speaker 1: not it bankrupts your business. We get every call we want,

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Speaker 1: regardless of whether or not it was fouled. Everybody's out

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Speaker 1: to get us. It was embarrassing. Now what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: is on social media and in regular media. Everyone is

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Speaker 1: scared to criticize a female athlete. Female athletes do not

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Speaker 1: get criticized. They want to be treated fairly, but in

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Speaker 1: in a completely unfair sense. I'm telling you, I saw

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Speaker 1: the play. It looked bad when they banged legs and

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Speaker 1: when her foot got caught up and now she's in

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Speaker 1: a walking boot. But she got the ball stolen from

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Speaker 1: her and then they collided. It happens. It's basketball, it's

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Speaker 1: contact sport. So I have zero sympathy. Do I think

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Speaker 1: the WNBA officiatings. Beat. Yeah. Yeah, well I'm in Indye

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Speaker 1: for the Horizon League meetings. Our officiating stinks too. But

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Speaker 1: you know what you don't do. You don't go like

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Speaker 1: I want leadership blah blah blah blah blah. Like dude,

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Speaker 1: the film actually says it was a good call.

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Speaker 5: I do want to give him the FISA Collier an

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Speaker 5: opportunity because that was just part of her statement today,

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Speaker 5: but she also said something very interesting when it comes

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Speaker 5: to some of the league's young stars, specifically Caitlyn Clark,

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Speaker 5: Angel Reese, and Paige Becker's Here's what Klier had to

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Speaker 5: say in her statement.

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Speaker 9: At unarrival this past February. I sat a car across

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Speaker 9: from Kathy and asked how she planned to address the

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Speaker 9: officiating issues in our league. Her response was, well, only

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Speaker 9: the losers complain about the refs. I also asked how

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Speaker 9: she planned to fix the fact that players like Caitlin,

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Speaker 9: Angel and Page, who are clearly driving massive revenue for

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Speaker 9: the league, are making so little for their first four years.

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Speaker 9: Her response was, Caitlyn should be grateful she makes sixty

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Speaker 9: million off the court, because without the platform that the

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Speaker 9: WNBA gives her, she wouldn't make anything. And in that

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Speaker 9: same conversation, she told me players should be on their

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Speaker 9: knees thanking they're lucky stars for the media right steal

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Speaker 9: that I got them. That's mentality driving our league from

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Speaker 9: the top. We go to battle every day to protect

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Speaker 9: a shield that doesn't value us. The league believes it

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Speaker 9: succeeds despite its players, not because of them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say in some ways they do succeed

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Speaker 1: despite the players. If she said that about Kaylen Clark,

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Speaker 1: that's laughable.

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Speaker 4: Do you think you think she said that? Do you

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Speaker 4: really think a commissioner of a league would say all

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Speaker 4: those things the way Collier just presented it, That sounds

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Speaker 4: like a slant and a lie.

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Speaker 1: It does.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make much sense.

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Speaker 5: The problem I think with Collier is is we feel

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Speaker 5: that there is an ulterior motive because of the unrivaled

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Speaker 5: league that she helped start.

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Speaker 1: The unrival league is unwatchable, unwatchable three on three women's

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Speaker 1: basket during the NBA and NFL season. Tell me how

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Speaker 1: I can find more about this product?

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Speaker 3: I love it. Well.

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Speaker 5: I would also say this, because we talk about this

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Speaker 5: a lot on this show, that perception is reality, and

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Speaker 5: I do think that it is savvy of Collier to

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Speaker 5: put Caitlin Clark, angel Recent Page Beckers in this group

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Speaker 5: where we feel that their fan bases are completely on

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Speaker 5: opposite sides of each other, and now to get them

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Speaker 5: to be one group maybe against the WNBA or at

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Speaker 5: least the leadership in the front office. I think it's

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Speaker 5: a very savvy move because the perception then would likely

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Speaker 5: be the reality, whether it is what you say, Doug

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Speaker 5: or what Jason says. If the Caitland Clark fans, if

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Speaker 5: the Angel Rees fans, and the Page Beckers fans, and

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of them feel this way about

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Speaker 5: the front office because that's what they perceive is happening,

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Speaker 5: then that's going to be the reality of the WNBA.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's a savvy move by Collier to

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Speaker 5: bring those players in and use the messaging that you

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Speaker 5: in that situation, whether it's true or not, whether it's

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Speaker 5: made up or or taken out of context, how.

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Speaker 1: Well it is. Let's let's just let's just say this, Okay, Danbyer,

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Speaker 1: do you think what is the percentage chances that the

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Speaker 1: commissioner of the w NBA uttered those words?

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Speaker 3: I think it's low verbatim. Yeah, I don't know ten percent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jay stu percentage.

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Speaker 4: I'll go like five percent. But I'm gonna add this this.

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Speaker 4: She may have said something along those lines, but the

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Speaker 4: way they were presented is just so unfair. And if

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Speaker 4: I'm looking sure of the WNBA, I'm thinking my days

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Speaker 4: are counted because the best player in our league just

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Speaker 4: completely mischaracterized my words to her. I've got no allies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, she she crushed her, crushed her. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go less than two percent. I simply do not

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Speaker 1: believe it, you know.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, to your point, Doug, it shouldn't

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Speaker 4: be called unrivaled, it should be called unfollowed.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's they do the blue light things so

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Speaker 1: you can't see how few people in the seats.

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Speaker 5: It's so bad, so bad, no practice today for Niners

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Speaker 5: quarterback Brock Purty, Doug. The Angels will not bring back

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Speaker 5: either of their managers, Ron Washington and interim skipper Ray

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Speaker 5: Montgomery will not return to the Angels in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 5: according to the Athletic.

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Speaker 1: AH another year another manager for the Angels.

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Speaker 3: Uugh, that's the press bag, get out there in press.

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Speaker 3: That was the press.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like there should be like a Major

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Speaker 1: League five with the Angels. Hey, Charlie, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about managers the big club?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I got a guy in the other line about some

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Speaker 1: white walls. Have to get back to you still, Gottlieb Show,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio,