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You didn't know for buy now. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.600 My name is Chad and every single week we hang 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.520 out with the co host of the show here, the 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.200 one and only queen of Extreme fran scene. It's me. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.120 It's me, the Queen of Extreme. I'm trying to think 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.800 of a wrap. I need a new catchphrase for when 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.920 we do YouTube because the stuff that I used to 0:01:59.920 --> 0:02:04.920 do on Twitch doesn't rhyme with YouTube. What you know, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.480 it's different, different terminology. So I'm trying to be a 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.880 rapper now and it's not working out too good. What 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:17.799 are some words that rhyme with tube? H bube or 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:23.880 there's another one boobe? Yeah yeah, but no like with 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:30.440 super chat. One of our one of our subscribers said, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.960 anytime you get a super chat, sing it to super freak. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.360 So I'm like, yeah, that's cute. Now I have to 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.680 think of how to do it. Thanks about the super 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.760 Chat super Chet you super chat E Yeah, he gave 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.880 me super Chet super Chet super Jet. I don't know. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:52.240 I'm just trying to be my entertaining self, but you know, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.200 it's kind of hard. But anyway, what do you think 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.920 about it so far? With the YouTube, I'm you know, 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.080 when I left it, I was just like, eh, you know, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.760 we'll try something else, And now that I'm back, I 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.960 have come through the realization I really like it compared 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.600 to Twitch like YouTube, like they were saying, YouTube is 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:20.520 more of a community and for the type of person 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.600 that I am, I think it's a better fit than Twitch. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:30.680 I feel like Twitch is mostly for younger, uh the 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.800 younger generation, the gamers, which I'm not a gamer. You know. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:42.840 I tried to play like Donkey Kong, like old school games. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.640 Now it didn't work out too great, But I feel like, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.960 you know, what we do on YouTube is more accepted 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.360 than it was on Twitch like. I feel more comfortable 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.920 on YouTube and I like more so I'm I'm happy 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:01.400 to be back. And for those wondering where I am 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.920 on YouTube, it's ecw DVA free scene with an exclamation point, 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.320 and we're doing all kinds of cool stuff. We're trying 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:12.080 to get to five thousand subs. We are on our way. Yes, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.720 well it's it's you know, it's gonna be hard, but 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.719 we're gonna keep working. We're gonna get there. So yeah, absolutely, no. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.320 The last video we put up talking about backstage politics 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.240 was riveting. You know, it was a great conversation. I 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.840 was listening back to it, you know, not playing with 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.359 the algorithm making the numbers go up at all. I 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.000 was just listening to and make sure it all worked. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.960 And I actually I felt like it was a very 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.560 good back and forth, right. I just I felt the 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.239 flow of it was really good and as a listener 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.320 to digest it and it was a great choice. And 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.240 that's what I like about YouTube. You know, you have 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.760 so many pundits out there that can say whatever they want, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.839 and now we have somebody in the business giving their perspective. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.760 I thought that the clip worked perfect. Yeah, it's fun. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.280 I do enjoy it. I like understand it more than 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.760 I do Twitch, you know what I mean. Like I 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.440 can navigate it better than I than I ever did 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.839 on Twitch. So you know, but you have to try 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.880 things to see what sticks. Yeah, yeah, I took I 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.440 think it was like a two year hiatus. It even't 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.760 been longer. But now that I'm back and I you know, 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.719 I kept the channel open because I in the back 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.359 of my mind I said, well, I don't want to 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.839 just take the channel down. I want to keep it 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.920 up and keep these subscribers. And I'm glad I did 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.440 because most of them have come back. Seems like it. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:36.240 so it's good and we've added more new people. And 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.160 you know, I notice sometimes when I check my like 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:45.120 my Twitter numbers, I get more followers, like new followers 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.560 on Twitter. So if if they come over and they 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.599 hit the subscribe button on YouTube, I mean, it's a 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.440 win win. So yeah, just trying to keep it entertaining 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.640 and do fun stuff. So what happens. How was our 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.760 weekend in New York? I'm going to predict I made 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.320 a million dollars. I signed a motion picture deal and 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:12.599 now I don't know yet because it's coming up. Oh okay, sorry, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.120 it's coming up. But I'm sure it was lovely. I'm 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.440 sure we had a really good time and we taped 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:22.760 a ton of content for Patreon extras, plus the main 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:27.800 show we're gonna do one of the flashbacks, right yeah, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:32.960 or fast forwards whatever, flashback, Okay, whatever we're gonna call it. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.600 Did we get to meet the Undertaker? Probably not. He's 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.280 probably in one of those rooms with several guards, Like 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.360 I imagine he's in the special room with like the 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:48.760 British guards that the Queen has outside a Buckingham Palace, 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.160 with the chin straps that come on right underneath their 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.719 their lip that annoys the hell out of them, but 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.200 they can't move and they can't smile. That's what I 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.720 pictured the Undertaker's room to be, Like, so I might 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.240 sneak in? Should I just walk in and be like, hey, 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.480 I'm here out the cow and you want to be 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.520 on the podcast? Be like, so, did you think that 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.560 spot was good that I talked to you about, you know, 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.760 a couple of twenty years ago? Do you think that 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.760 really was good? Remember that time you and I were 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.080 vibing in the hallway at uh, you know, the raw 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.080 that night or whatever, and hell it was SmackDown. I 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.480 don't even know where it was, but I'm sure he 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.440 remembers quite the last minute addition to the show by 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.440 I was shocked when I saw that Undertaker was the 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:37.680 last announced guest. Oh and I'm like, really like five 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:42.600 days before first to draw people into like saving the date. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.200 But maybe he maybe they just got him. It seems 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.160 like it's either one of those things that they don't 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.600 really care and they think that whatever they'd do is 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.280 just gonna work, or they'd been working on it forever 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.800 and it has it materialized and now finally went through. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.760 But you know, I hate to say, like the people 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.320 who plan things out and what they want to spend, 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.360 like they just got a major curve ball thrown at 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.200 the yeah, right, because now they're going to need an 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.920 extra two hundred and fifty dollars damn it. Well, I 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.840 hope they still come see me. I did not make 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:16.760 the final poster. Took a little hit there. I was like, okay, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.000 but why did they put everybody who's on the card 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.280 Except no, they I think there's only like eight people 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.320 that they want the Yeah, the rest of us are 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.520 and more well, and more is better than not and 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.360 more my pictures on this site, I believe. So that's 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.040 that's enough for me. But you know, I'm pretty sure 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.960 we had a good time. So we'll talk about it 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:41.680 next week as well. Very good. Yeah, excited. Well, my 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.360 email bounced back to me that, oh wait, I see 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.640 what the problem was. The guest email bounced back to me. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.240 But I see what the problem was, So no words. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.040 Take an extra minute. I'm cool as a cucumber kid. 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.400 I'm telling you this. This intermittent fasting is killing me. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.880 I want I kind of get up. I was trying, 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:05.199 but I've I've I'm adreaming about food. I'm thinking about 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.200 all kinds of food. It's it's real, and and I'm 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:18.800 watching like buffet reviews on YouTube. No, I'm dying over here. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.560 I'm so hungry and my weight is the same. I'm like, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.320 what am I doing wrong? That's the most frustrating part 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.440 is you do all that stuff and you kick your 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.960 freaking butt and you get no kind of relief, and 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.920 then you go, well, why am I doing this to myself? 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.720 I don't get it. I'm trying to. I am starting 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:43.360 to see more definition in my mid section, like at abs. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.559 But you know, my problem is I have that bulge 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.360 from the surgery. So I have these abs down here, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.719 but then on the top, I have this little bulge 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.360 and I'm like, what do I do? Do I go 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.680 see another doctor. Do I get another cat skiing because 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:02.480 they can't find anything. It's really annoying, really annoying. But 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.199 my calorie intake is low, man, I'm like on fumes. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.200 All I had today was a cup of coffee. Wow, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.760 I'm like hungry. Are you angry yet? Not yet, but 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.840 I will be probably in an hour. I'm like, so, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.800 may I have some porridge please? Just it's a little 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.520 spot of taste, the finest gruel that we have in 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.439 the cupboard, something to help me out. I'm so hungry 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.880 and we have all these snacks in the house and 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.960 I'm just like, oh, I'm dying. So but we are 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:39.840 replacing all the cereals with this new keto cereal had 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.920 hubs found like one gram of sugar fifteen to twenty 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.280 grams of protein. Kids like it. It's chocolate, and then 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.120 they have a peanut butter. They're puffs and the kids 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:54.440 like those. So no more sugary cereals and then no 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:59.360 more snack packs. He found protein balls, so they're all 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.240 different flames. Routine balls. Yeah. I think they're like the 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:09.160 little like you know, the the cheese balls. Yes, yeah, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.439 they got two pound container. We ordered them. I think 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.120 they come tomorrow, so they have different flavors to them, 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.360 and the kids are going to have to eat those 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.800 because we're trying to get them to eat healthier because 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.640 they you know, they're not the best when it comes 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:28.200 to vegetables and fruit. Who is? Who is double it 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.720 in there? Now? Have you ever tried like cauliflower wings 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:36.160 or anything? Is there any way to gussie up the vegetables? No, 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:41.520 I have not tried. I've had cauliflower wings and zucchini fries. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.600 Zucchini fries I love. I love califlower, but I'm gonna 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.959 go on record, gets me a little gassie and I 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.600 definitely don't have it. Yes, I stopped eating love. I 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.800 used to roast it with garlic and olive, absolutely delicious, 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.960 but by the end of the night my stomach expand 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.120 into the size that I'm carrying a ten pound baby again. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:07.240 And no, so I stopped eating cauliflower. But zucchini. I 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:11.480 love zucchini. I make zucchini just with olive oil and 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.440 gar like. I don't even try it. I just sautee 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.840 it and eat it. And yeah, we've had these, you know, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.200 like the steamer bags or you know a little like 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.600 thing you put in the air fryer, and you know, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.680 if you want that kind of illusion of a wing. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.640 The Kariaki one was garbage. It tasted like crap. But 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:38.480 the Buffalo barbecue, whatever the hell it is, Yeah, cauliflower wing. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.200 It was fantastic. I'm gonna have to check that out. 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:46.360 And our guest has Oh. So this is a woman 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:50.800 that I knew god in the nineties, I guess, or 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.240 early two thousands, it had to be, and she found 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.800 fame in w w E. This is the former defense 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:03.280 known as Cherry. I'm like sitting here talking and you're 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:09.360 just like staring at me figure at the microphone. I 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.960 was just I was saying, like, I don't remember what 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.840 year you and I met, but you were Kars Slice. Yes, yes, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.280 I was. So that had to be good. Lord. Was 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:24.160 that during ECW or right after ECW or you're in 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.319 ECW and I think we did a show as in Connecticut. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.280 It was like an outside show. It was the first 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.480 show we were on. But I think I met you 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.560 before that, But yeah, you were an ECW and I 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.840 still do in the Independence. Yeah, And I don't know 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.360 why I was allowed to do an indie show when 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.079 I was under contract that that happened a couple times. 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.240 We've seen a few. We've watched a couple random New 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.400 Jack City wrestling shows that you prob. I don't know 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.880 why I was there, but I remember watching you. You 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.480 were so young, and I said to myself, this girl 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.120 is going to do something in this business. And you did. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.800 But I lost touch and I haven't seen you in forever. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.360 So when you popped up on Twitter and I noticed 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:07.880 you were following me, so I followed you right back, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:08.960 and I was like, I want to get her on 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.959 the show because I want to know what's going on. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.200 Where have you been? Have you been hiding somewhere? Like, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.920 what is what is going on in your world right now? 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.600 Oh my gosh. So I am fully out of wrestling, obviously, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:22.880 and it's been for a couple of years. But I'm 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.840 in Florida. I just kind of started over, you know, 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.960 and I sell insurance now for USAA. I don't know 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.320 if I could say that, but I love it, you know, 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.200 I love that job. I still get to meet a 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.960 lot of people, and that's the fun part of it. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.440 I talk to people, you know, in all fifty states, 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.320 and that's the fun part is meeting people and learning 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.560 about them and stuff. So yeah, I just bought my 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:51.160 first house in October, so yay, I okay, and you're 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.880 you're in Florida. This is why I'm working because I 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.080 am trying to get to Florida. Oh what part of 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.280 Florida are you coming to? Well, nowhere yet, but I'm 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.080 looking like if you go to my zillow, it's Simmy 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.800 Orlando's celebration because I am like a big theme park girl. Okay, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.000 So I would love to be in the vicinity of 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.360 all the parks and maybe try to become a blogger 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.560 of all things Disney and University and that kind of thing. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.480 But you know that's a dream. I mean, I'm fifty 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.080 years old. What the hell did I think I'm doing 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.280 blogging with my life? I don't know. But do what 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.920 you want to do with your life, you know. You 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.800 know that's that's good advice because I have to My 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.840 kids love it. My kids. I mean we were just 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.960 there two weeks ago. I think I told you we 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:43.120 were there for sieteen days and it went by like that, 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:48.320 and my kids were so happy the whole trip, you know. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.640 I mean, they're good kids in general. But I'm thinking 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.880 to myself, God if we live down here, like, yeah, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.320 be happy all the time. Yeah yeah. I mean there's 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.640 some diehard Disney fans down here. I'm not one of them. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:05.000 I mean I live more Wesley Chapel. Okay, but yeah, 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.920 my sister just visited from California this past week and 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.200 her kids are not theme park kids, so we didn't 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.520 even do that stuff. So now when you say Wesley Tchuvel, 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:18.160 is that near water? There's a water grass out here. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.680 It's getting built up. So I'm kind of Zephyr Hill's 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.480 Wesley Chapel area. So I'm way inland okay, Okay, yeah 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.120 down there. Oh yeah. The heats of the only thing 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.280 I don't like. The heat could be bearable. I mean, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.000 you're from the Northeast, so you're you're either gonna get 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.840 really cold or really hot, right. I would prefer really 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:43.760 hot over really cold, I know. And the beaches are 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.760 so nice down here, a lot nicer than you know. Yeah, 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.520 oh well, I am super jealous of you. Let's go 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.360 back a little bit. Okay, how did you get involved? 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:59.160 Because I see you in the indies. Who who was 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:04.399 the one that trained you? Initially? The boys kind of 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:12.560 really yeah, so I met a promoter AJ Sparks through 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.280 Carmine Savia, and I'd been working in the cellular industry 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.840 selling cell phones and stuff like that. So I had 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.080 met a friend whose uncle Carmine Savia. She's like, you 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.439 know a lot about wrestling, So we talked and then 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.159 it was all about networking. I mean, we all know 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.200 networking gets you ahead in line, right, So he got 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.159 me in contact with AJ Sparks and Kevin Knight. I 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:35.879 met them, went to a show and just went to 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.359 a show like I wasn't like, I didn't know that's 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.119 how you get involved in wrestling. I was just a 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:42.679 wrestling fan, you know. I didn't know there was a 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.160 school and all that stuff. So anyway, I just networked 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.040 and then I met Bobcat and then I met Danny Inferno, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.359 and Danny Inferno was the one so I did. I 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.760 met Julio Denarira, I traveled a lot with so I 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.440 valeted for him a lot, and I know you know 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.880 him very well. So I just met people and went 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.480 to different shows. And my boyfriend at the time, Jude 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.720 was young, had already been in wrestling, so I did 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.280 shows with him. I found my own network and just 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.520 kind of saturated the area when I could, you know, 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.720 because Weekend Warriors, right, sure? And how old are you 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:21.440 when you when you start twenty late twenties? I remember 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.920 late No, I started in ninety nine. I started turning 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:30.320 in ninety nine. Late twenties. Yeah, here, I'm thinking, you're 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:34.480 like nineteen years old. No, I'm good. I smoke up 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.480 your ass. I'm like, she's young. She's like nineteen twenty 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.680 years old. I don't feel though, how old I am 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.720 now either. So yeah, so that was just a lot 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.000 of networking, did a lot of independence, try to saturate 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.720 as much as I could, And that's kind of how 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.159 it started. I mean, I was just like, I'll just 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.320 do this until I don't like it anymore, and just 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.800 kept going. So you're having fun. And I could be wrong, 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.240 but that name is ringing a bell. Is that Carmine 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:05.760 cb a guy, the one that never left his house? Yes? Yes, okay, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.479 I've got an interaction with him, and I do remember 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.720 that name. Okay, Jars and Strip Championship Wrestling, which never 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.320 really kind of got out there, but yeah, whatever he 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.840 was able to, he was able to do something. So yeah, 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:22.040 he was my real first connection to the indies. Yeah. Interesting. Okay, 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.080 so you come to these shows, you start doing manager work. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.040 I'm assuming because you're not gonna jump in the ring yet, 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.159 right to will Fledge match. Right. Do you all in 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:33.919 love with it right away? Or are you saying to 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.000 yourself what the hell am I doing here? I fall 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:37.840 in love with it right away, Yeah, because I had 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.359 a fan and Bobcat was so nice to me, and 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.159 she was just the other female rival. We always had that, right, 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.399 and we would go to shows together to talk to her. 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.399 To this day, she was in my wedding. I mean, 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.440 oh yeah, really good friend of mine. Yeah. I love Cindy. Yeah, 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.680 she's a great best, she's the best. Yeah. So yeah, 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.679 I remember seeing all you guys on shows that I 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.200 was on. You know, I met Nova and his brother 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.160 first off, which kind I got me. I knew about 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.520 had been watching ECW, so Stevie Richards and all them 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.919 would come to the shows, and they were smaller shows 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.879 back then, you know, they weren't hugely packed or anything. 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.960 I mean ECW was definitely drawing the crowds. So yeah, 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.240 but uh I did. I fell in love with it 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.479 and was like, I'll do the managing thing. And then 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:23.359 I kind of got bored, so I went to I 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.560 forget who told me, but I started to become friends 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:31.040 with Tommy Fierro, Jus Young Inferno kid, Danniegimundo, and they 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.640 told me about ecp W, which was Gino Caruso's school 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:39.480 in Carsipia, Jersey. So then I went there. And from 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.520 when I went, I never really saw Geno running classes. 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.320 I know it was a school, but I ended up 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.480 learning from the boys like Judas would work out with me, 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.159 and Johnny Thunder would work out with me. So a 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.520 lot of the like regular guys that would just go 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.480 for a workout would teach me some stuff. So I 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.560 kind of started from there and then started learning as 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.080 I you know, So I'd go to the school like 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.119 twice a week and I the weekend Warrior stuff and 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:05.560 I learned more stuff there, so over time it got better. 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.320 So I yeah, I was. I was starting to get 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.040 bored at the valet. There's only so much you could do, right, right, 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:15.399 So yeah, then I started to learn to wrestle. Interject 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:16.760 for a second. It's like the Hall of Fame of 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.199 New Jersey, Indie, all these names, this is who I 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:22.680 saw on the posters growing up or every single person 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.000 that you're mentioning. So I love that. That's my favorite. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.720 I love the Jersey indies. Oh I'll drop some other 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:31.760 names if I can remember. I dropped new Jack City Wrestling, 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:36.239 and that's why I saw your reaction so well, So 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.800 you okay, so you did the manager thing. Obviously you 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:44.480 liked being a wrestler more. But I think, well, I 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.600 was really nervous at first because I just didn't think 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:52.240 I was very athletic. So I took it a little 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.240 bit at a time. I didn't take on big matches 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.159 or anything like that, just and a lot of the 0:21:56.160 --> 0:22:00.320 girls around me they weren't. The most experienced was Mickey 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.919 James that really I would do shows with. All the 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.120 other girls were not really that season. So it took 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.240 a little bit for me to to get the hang 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.040 of it. So and then I started to do better 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.080 because then I was able to do managing half wrestling 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.320 full wrestling matches. So at first, it was the little 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.359 because your body has so use to that you know, 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:28.440 you know it feels so as unfortunately, and the nerve 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.480 wrack of wrestling in front of a crowd and remembering 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.960 you know what you're you're planning on doing and God 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:35.800 forbid something happen you have to go off of that. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.199 That was still I was always struggled with knowing how 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:41.119 much time, Like, oh, you have a minute left? Like 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:45.080 I always struggled with the time. Yeah, and you're doing indies, 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.560 so you have a minute left? Like no, I can 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.199 have five ten minutes Like this isn't television like that. 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.840 I never understood. I mean, I know they have to 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:56.680 get out of there at a certain time and stuff, 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.520 but yeah, pressure on everybody, and it's like, come on, 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:05.040 it's an indie show. Let them exactly. I don't get it. Okay, 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:09.280 So so you work really really hard. How does WWF 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.520 or was it was he at the time, Yeah, I 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.119 don't even know. How do how do you get on 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:20.360 their radar? So Danny and Jimundo was already in Kentucky 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.320 when OVW was the developmental and I had managed him 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:29.520 a lot too. So they had a tryout training camp 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.000 for OVW and he told me about it. He's like, 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:33.760 you're perfect for this. And he told me and my 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.840 boyfriend at the time, you're perfect for this. And so 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.080 I was like, eh, I'm going to set in my 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:41.280 application and I was like, they're not going to accept me, 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.000 and they did. And then I was like, I'll go 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:45.800 for the weekend and do weekend stuff all the time, 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:47.600 right because it was only a Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.080 I was like, oh, so I went and it was 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.320 just like that, I mean, you did. I didn't think 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.000 anything of it. I was like, oh, they're never going 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:57.399 to take me. I'm just you know, good experience, like 0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.840 because we had done like my boyfriend and I do 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.760 went down to Memphis and did Terry Golden's developmental when 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:04.960 it was back then, so we were used to kind 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.800 of doing that. So I went and I was one 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.720 of two girls in the class and as well for 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.760 you at that time, right right, and for some on 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:17.840 the second day, she like hit in the bathroom, so 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.680 she was super intimidated. It was. I never saw her again, 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:24.439 but so that he looked good, right. And then I 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.960 had I been networking, so I knew a lot of 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.440 the kids that were already there. I knew Pat Buck 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:33.040 was there, and Damian Adams was there, and Damian and 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:37.440 I would would train every week together, so we already 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:39.919 knew each other. So long story short, we did that 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.479 and then I called Danny Davis like that week when 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:45.399 I got home and thanked him for the opportunity, and 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:46.960 he said, you know, we see a lot in you 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.120 and we would love for you to come and train 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:55.280 at OVW. And he was very clear, this is OBW. Yes, 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.080 it's the developmental for WW at the time, but you're 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.520 coming for OVW. There's no promise, you guarantee. So, like 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:04.320 something in my gut just said do it. So I 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.600 left a job that I loved and I was making 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.880 really good money and I just took a chance, so 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:20.000 get down there. And August of five and they did 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.679 their TVs on Wednesday. So the girl that used to 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.240 be the ring girl for whatever reason wouldn't make it 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:27.600 or whatever. I was like, I'll do it. Like I 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:29.440 just was like, whatever I can do, right, So I'd 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.399 been doing classes. You show up to the TV and 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.440 help out, you show up to the weekend house shows, 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.920 you help out. I mean it was just constant. So 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:42.320 I got on as the ring girl. So long story short, 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.000 Deuce was down there already. And I'd known Deuce for 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.800 a long time because he started in ECPW in the 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:51.879 same year that I did. However, he would come with 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.159 his dad on times where nobody else was there and 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.320 they would train. So I had met him a few 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.199 times and did indie shows with him and stuff like that, 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:00.680 so you know, again i'd already that worked. I knew 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:04.640 a lot of people already there besides Inferno. So long 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.879 story short, after one of the TVs, he approached me 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.280 and said that, you know, him and Cliff were working 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.560 on this gimmick and they didn't really they wanted a 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.239 girl on old school roller skates, and he wanted to, 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.600 you know, give me the opportunity to put it together 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.280 with them because Deuce was signed a Cliff wasn't either, 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.959 Dumbina wasn't either. So they showed me the promos that 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.720 they had been working on because for some reason, Cliff 0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.879 was in the He had gotten into the advanced class, 0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.120 so he had been there for a while. So they'd 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:38.359 been working on promo class this greaser gimmick, and they 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.520 wanted a girl on old school roller skates. They didn't 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:41.919 know what she looked like, they didn't know her name. 0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:43.600 They just wanted her on old school roller skates for 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.200 the gimmick. So so I was like, wow, Like, so 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.000 Jimmy knew me and knew kind of what he said 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.160 was my work ethics, so he's like, let's ask her, 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.080 you know. So it kind of came together all in 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:58.240 one week and it almost didn't happen. So that so 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:03.320 Wednesday was TV. Jimmy approached me that coming Tuesday, Johnny's 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.680 and everybody was coming down to evaluate who was down there. 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.000 So we didn't tell anybody that we were putting this together. 0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.040 So I had to go out and find the skates. 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:12.680 I had to find the outfit and all this stuff. 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:17.119 So we kind of like scrambled, and on Sunday we 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.440 got together at the school, came up with my name. 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.080 It was either going to be Cherry from Outsiders or 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.280 Sandy from Greece, and wrestling wise, Cherry is me sure. 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:32.200 So so then Tuesday, well, Monday night comes around and 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.000 Jimmy calls me and he's like, hey, Danny's not Danny 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.560 said you can't come because it's only for contracted talent, 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:41.160 and I was like, oh my god, like and I 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.920 was just like bummed. But what could I do? Yeah, 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.280 So my boyfriend at the time, Judas Young, was actually 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.360 coming in to visit, so I was like, all right, 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.320 I'll just get you know, clean the house and like 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.520 have everything ready's coming. You know. He's like, just be ready. 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.280 He's going to go down and really fight for me. So, 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:58.480 long story short, he fights for me. The day of. 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.000 He calls me, He's like, get down here. So I 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.360 grab all of my stuff. I run into Davis Arena 0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.280 and the first person I sees Rip Rogers. Now I'm 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.280 in class. I didn't tell him what was going on, 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.159 and he looks at me and was like, are you 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.320 kidding me? You're late, and I'm like wanted to be, 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.680 like Rip, I didn't mean to be. You don't understand. 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:21.400 So I run into the girl's locker room and change 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.639 really quick, and again nobody knows that this is going on. 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.639 So I come out in my skates and I hadn't 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.840 roller skated since I was like little. Oh well, so 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.320 of course, do some domino across Davis Arena. So I 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.720 roll and I said to do something like catch me. 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:42.000 It couldn't stop. It was like a pin drop. It 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.520 was the best feeling ever. So I roll out and 0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:51.160 everybody stopped talking. They were like watching me roll across. 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.080 That is so great. Your name should have been Cherry Pop. 0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.760 That's funny because I'll get that Cherry. That's so great 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.840 sure that I had in WWE that I that I 0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.440 was using. I wanted to use cherry pop, but Vince 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.600 mixed it out. So Mick Foley's like, what's your what's 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:10.680 your finisher? And I was like cherry pop And they 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.080 ended up calling it the do Wop Drop because Vince 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:18.600 didn't like it. And then and Mick was like, I tried, yeah, yeah, 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:20.880 So you you come out with the skates. Do you 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.600 have the big you know, the big skirt, the big 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.640 poodle skirt and the hole the hair up. And I 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:31.120 didn't have the poodle skirt. I had this like blowout skirt. 0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:32.840 It was just kind of want to can make shift? 0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:38.760 You know when that because you had five minutes to 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.280 prepare for this big Yeah, of course, right, Okay. So 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.680 we go through the day. They do matches, you know, 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.040 they do drills, they do all of that stuff, and 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.760 Johnny Aish just kept having He's like he's like, Jimmy, 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.520 bring your team, Jimmy, bring your team. So we got 0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.120 up to the point where we were doing promos and 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.880 we all get online for promos and Johnny goes to Cliff, 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:03.840 he goes, I want you guys up next. Because they 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.840 would go into Danny's office and watch us on the 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.760 TV on the cameras. So we made us skip the line. 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:11.600 So we go and do our thing. And we had 0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.720 been working on promos so that worked. So long story short, like, 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.600 they ended up cutting it because we had a ton 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.800 of people there and Arne was there, Tedy Biassi was there, 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:27.640 there were so many uh, Doctor Tom Rip, Danny Davis. 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.880 So they greet the room, They're like, thank you so much, 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.200 blah blah blah blah. They give us words of wisdom 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.880 and all that stuff, and then Johnny goes, Jimmy, bring 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:42.800 your team into the office. I was like, what, yeah, 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.920 so they just so Johnny brings us in and basically says, 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.600 we loved it, this is great, this is awesome. You know, 0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.360 I'm thinking I almost didn't even make this right. So 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.600 he says, we want to sign you. And that's all 0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.560 I heard. Oh I did hear? He goes, oh, and 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.840 I didn't know you could wrestle. Like they knew nothing 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:02.800 about me. They didn't knew that. I didn't know that 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:04.840 I was in the classes I had been on the indies. 0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.840 They were like, oh, you bus So I was like, 0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:13.200 I was there for four months Grant scene four months 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:19.160 unheard of incredible. And the funny thing is they wanted 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.160 to debut us that next Monday after all, So we 0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.320 got booked to go to the House Show that weekend, 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.160 and we're like, oh my god, we're like a week old. 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.360 So you're training down there for four months, you get 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.520 thrown into this position you know this, yeah, right place, 0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.280 right time kind of sort of because you made it 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.840 to the right place at the right time, right and 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:45.840 then the next week we want you on row. What 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.520 your mind? Are you blown away at this point? Completely 0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.760 blown away? Yeah? Completely blown away? It sounds like to me, 0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:58.320 you're you're having a positive experience in ov W Yes, 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.760 oh was the best? Do you feel like you were 0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:06.320 ready for all? We definitely didn't think we were ready. 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.560 We were a week old. I mean, the boys had 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:12.080 been working. We didn't get that chemistry really yet. So 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.240 they ended us flying us in the House Show loop 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.320 and we were supposed to do something with superstar Billy 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.000 Graham that Monday, I think like his book was coming 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.560 out or something. You were going to interrupt it or something. Yeah, 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.560 And then we ended up going but they didn't use 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.120 us a scrapped it, which was a godsend because we 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.240 ended up staying down in OVW for a year, So 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.040 we ended up debuting a year to the day that 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.800 Cliff and I got signed January nineteenth, Oh wow, which 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:44.760 gave us that time to marinate. So it was a blessing, yeah, 0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:49.440 to work on the characters chemistry together. And when you 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:54.920 finally go up to the main roster, how long were 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:59.280 you there for and what was your opinion? Because I 0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.440 know back then I worked there in two thousand and 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:06.720 six and it was very negative for me. And it's 0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.600 either anybody who says anything, it's either the most wonderful 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.960 thing that ever happened to them or they wanted to 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.600 kill themselves because it was the worst experience of their life. 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.520 I didn't want to kill myself over it, but I 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:24.560 would have to not be there. What her experience positive, negative, 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.120 it was. I wasn't really sure of anything, so I 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.160 just kind of kept to myself and was quiet, and 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.720 you know, just said my hellos and stayed in the corner, 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.840 and you know, it wasn't I just kind of like 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.959 followed my lead and then met up with the boys 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:41.840 and what do we need to do? And you know, 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.400 I had known some people from OVW or what have you. 0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:48.080 But I didn't in the beginning. It wasn't bad. I 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.200 just didn't know what to do and I didn't want 0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:51.960 to do the wrong thing. So I just kind of 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.040 like stayed the straight and narrow and I go back 0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.880 to my hotel room at night and be like, oh, breathing. 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.280 Nobody was ever meant me or anything like that, right 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.960 and right. It was just navigating this new environment and 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.719 this new, bigger environment. It's like I'm here, like wait, 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:13.120 I'm here, you know. So I never had any bad experiences. 0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.960 I know I'm not made for that industry I feel, 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.960 or that television environment. Like I'm just a normal girl 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.440 that loves wrestling and was able to live my dream. 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.760 So a lot of the like politiicy stuff I didn't 0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:33.280 really understand. But kay, I feel like I got along 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.280 with everybody. I feel like I had a decent time. 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:40.399 I started to struggle with myself towards the end, which 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:44.799 was not delightful. So it wasn't because of somebody being 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.759 mean to me or budding heads with anybody, or I mean, 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.040 we all get struggles with the creative team and how 0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:55.040 the story's going. And that was you know, natural, I feel, 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:59.000 but I had a bad time in sense because of myself. 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.759 I got super in secure and I felt so out 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.520 of place, and even though they were doing stuff with 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.239 me and it was going really well for me, I 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.799 just got super insecure and self conscious, you know. So yeah, 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:17.400 I think we all I crumbled within myself, but it 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.520 wasn't because of somebody else. Like all the girls to 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.680 me were very nice to me, and you were very 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.160 nice to me and Shelley, and you know, it was 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:30.080 chaotic when everybody there. Yeah, I mean, I think the 0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.759 difference between you and I, like I always say, it 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:36.280 was a great opportunity for me. You know, I'm glad 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.239 I took the opportunity, but it wasn't my cup of tea. 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:44.680 That's what I say. The difference is me going in there, 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.720 there was no plan so to speak. I was told 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.360 one thing, and then as soon as I got there, 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.080 that was like that conversation never happened. And they they 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.400 no one was on board with that because nobody knew 0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:05.120 what I was told to sign the contract, right, So 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.480 you know, I was told something and then I go 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.160 in there and I have to do something completely different. 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.799 Like you, I would say, you're kind of homegrown in 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.959 a sense that you were never signed anywhere and they 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.440 molded you. You trained with them, so I had thirteen 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:28.319 years experience, but it wasn't experienced with them. So I 0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.560 go in there and I'm pretty much scared to death. 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.479 I have my tail between my legs, humble as hell, 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.040 you know, trying I'm getting I'm getting people stuff from 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.920 catering that have been in the business for six months, 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.279 like I'm serving people like I'm just trying to fit in. 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.680 I don't want to cause any waves. And then I'm 0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:53.359 told I don't politic enough an office. You're not politic enough. 0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.680 You're not out there, You're you're not trying to get 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.680 a spot. You're like watching paint dry. So when I 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:03.160 hear you say, you know you kept to yourself, I 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.120 did the same thing, but I got heat for it. 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.200 I got tru wo oh yeah, yeah, it was a tope. 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:10.920 It was like you and I are kind of like 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.000 the same person. We have the same mind frame about 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:19.759 that place, but if we did things kind of equally, 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.359 but it was a different reaction. And I think that's 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.880 the problem. It's I've always said I never felt like 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.200 everybody was on the same team like, hey, you want 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.200 me to go do this, and I come back and 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.000 I do something you don't want me to do. They 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.279 don't tell you like, hey, we would have rather you 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.120 have done this, like they it's such a guessing game. 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:43.120 So it's you know, nothing's ever the same. Like when 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.040 I did my match with Natty it was her debut 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:49.080 match and Fit and us we put it together and 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.200 it went over really well. We come back, I mean 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:55.080 standing ovation in Gorilla, right, So I'm like, yay. So 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.240 they loved it. It went well and Fit was happy. 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.600 So the next week I did another match. It was 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.919 exactly the way they wanted it, or how I knew. 0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.239 Came back and nobody would look at me, Nobody would 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.640 tell me anything, nobody would say anything. I'm like, did 0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:11.799 I make a mistake? Did I do what you wanted 0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.080 me to do? Like your agents won't even tell you 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.719 what's going on, not after that second one, So I 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:18.719 was like, what this is weird? So I get what 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:22.480 you're saying, because things you could, they could want one 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.360 thing from you, and then I can be doing that 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.560 same thing and it's and it's like you're not doing 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.319 it right, but I'm doing it. I totally totally get 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.640 what you're saying and it doesn't make any sense, and 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.399 like do you get heat for it that you don't 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:38.520 know about? Because you know, I can't even tell you 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.640 how many times I sat in front of Johnny East 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.759 and cried and asked for my release and was like, 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:47.239 this isn't a good fit for me, because like you're 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:52.279 presenting ideas and no one's listening to you. Yeah. Yeah, 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.600 it's like it's super frustrating to me and for somebody 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.680 I'm not lackadaisil lackadaisical when it comes to working, Like, 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.120 my ethic is really high because at one point, like 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.760 and you were the same way. We love this business 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.160 and you wanted to work and you wanted to grow, 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.560 and you know, I kept saying to them, I want 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.480 to work, I want to work. It was like going 0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.520 in one ear nail, no one cared that I was 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.239 even there, and I'm thinking, why am I hired? You know, 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:23.960 in your instance, you were there, you trained, they saw 0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.120 something in you, and they're salivating to get you on 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.719 TV right away. And you know, you take a year, 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.879 you get your craft. You you know, go with these 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.080 two guys and you become a threesome that they love, 0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.680 and yet you're doing things that they're not approving and 0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.480 no one's telling you what you're doing wrong. Well, I 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.880 don't know if they approved or approved or not. Nobody 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.960 told me either way, so you know if but looking 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.520 back on it now, obviously not in the moment, you 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.960 don't understand, but just talking to Natty and talking to 0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.319 TJ and talking you know, I ran into dema go 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.680 in the airports and you know, being able to talk 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.920 to people every time. It's not just us talent where 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.319 things kind of go. They're just you don't know what's 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.879 going on. It's the producers too, So I think, yes, 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:15.839 I may have felt like what is going on? And 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.919 somebody tell me like should I have done this? Should 0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.880 I do that? Was that perfect? Was that? Not? Was? 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.799 They're getting that too. So I think everybody's in this 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:28.480 like dire circle of like what's going on? What are 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:32.520 the agents there for? They're there to critique your work 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.920 there telling you no, that's what they do. You have 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:41.920 an agent, you know, everybody has their agents back there. Yeah, 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.000 Stephen Kern was one of my agents all the time, 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.480 and he made me need that all the time, Like 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.560 I didn't work much for them like we did. I 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.280 worked every house show, loop and stuff for six months, 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.600 but I didn't get a lot of TV time because, honestly, 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.840 I you know, I was paired up with balls. And 0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.480 then he took your test and he had drugs in 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.080 his system and got kicked off the road. And then 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.799 it was like, go get a bathing suit you're gonna 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.040 do and I'm just like, I don't want to do. 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.120 I don't do these bikinis. I never did bikini stuff. 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.920 And I'm in my mid thirties now. Yeah, you know 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.880 what I mean. And it's like if you go to 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.000 the office and you say I can do this, this 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:25.800 and this, and Vince McMahon tells me, I know nothing 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.560 about you. Well, it's your company, dude, Why am I 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:32.040 even here? Yeah, you know what I mean. Like when 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.480 you say there's no feedback, I kind of get that. 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.920 And at some point I just said to myself, they're 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.560 just telling me things that I want to hear at 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.600 this point, and I can't do anything to change it 0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.080 because they're not willing to change anything. I'm not sure 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:52.840 some people knew. I remember one time we were in 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.759 the car about to drive out for our entrance, our 0:41:55.840 --> 0:42:00.359 music was playing and we were wrestling. Lennon Kendrick and 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:02.600 our agent came over and was like, they just changed 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:10.839 it again and they jumped out of the Yeah. So, 0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:16.120 looking back on it now, I think everybody feels that way, 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.640 you know what I mean. I feel like the producers 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.880 feel that way, and the wrestlers feel that way, and 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:25.399 we feel that way, and so it's Yeah, that's why 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.120 I say, like, I'm just a normal girl who's not 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:32.239 used to that kind of life. Sign Yeah, well it's uh, 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.840 I don't know. It was apples and oranges. ECW was 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:36.920 so laid back, and then you get to this place 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.759 and it's like a zoo really is like a zoo. Yeah, 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.080 how long how long did you last there on the 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.399 main rock? You were there, you know, VW for a year, 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:49.640 then you move off, Yes, and then I was Oh, 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:53.200 so I got released August of eight with the Crash 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.319 of Everybody. Domino got released the week before me. Then 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.719 I got released in the second Talent releases, and then 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.040 the last two weeks of the month they let a 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.160 ton of people from Headquarters go. So so roughly about 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:11.239 three years with the coming yeah, two two and a half. Yeah, okay, yeah, 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:15.399 regret it or learning experience. No, okay, I know it's 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.360 a blessing. Now I can see now that it was 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.239 a blessing. I just take it. You know. I wish 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.759 I could have done more, but it was I take 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.799 responsibility for it because I did not towards the end, 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:27.640 when I got super in my head and I got 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.080 super insecure, I didn't take I didn't invest in myself 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.960 like Natty invests in herself. And she lives ten minutes 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.440 from I moved closer up towards where she is, so 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:38.960 you know, she just invests in herself. She can do 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.319 pr she can do matches, she can carry people, she 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.000 can build people, she can do everything. And I didn't 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.640 do that. You know, I was so nervous, I was hiding. 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.200 I was nervous about, you know, being seen. I just 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:54.600 I got so insecure that I didn't take the advantage 0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:58.799 of Fit and Regal and just these people that I 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.600 could have really picked their brain from, and I just 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.319 got so it was my fault. I mean, I don't 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.720 blame them for letting me go. I didn't. They wanted 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.200 to do stuff with me, and I should have taken 0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.360 advantage of it. But I don't think I was in 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.480 my own mindset to be able to I don't know. 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:20.279 It's just it's it's it's it's upsetting to think of 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.600 it like that because I just know that they were 0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.560 planning on doing things with me. But I honestly, I 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.960 take the responsibility. I dropped the ball. Okay. So I 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.520 also feel like, if you know, back then we had 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:38.440 social media and everything like they have now, because we 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.960 really didn't have all this, you know, Twitter and Instagram 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:46.239 and all this bullet right, we could have reinvented ourselves 0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.480 and pushed ourselves more. But you know, back then, I 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:54.239 had a flip phone, and you know, I think the 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.960 only messaging I remember was like, wwe had a message 0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.919 board on the on dot com or something probably yeah, 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.439 and the stupid dirt cheeks, which you know ninety percent 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:08.640 of the time are wrong anyway. So I mean, you know, 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.319 I felt like every time that I watched you, you 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.359 looked beautiful and I could I could just think back 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.520 to when I thought you were a kid, but apparently 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:22.319 you weren't. You looked like a kid to me, I 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:25.880 saw you grow as not only a woman, but as 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:31.640 a performer. Like I I watched you from just this 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.040 this little girl outside the ring, and then I watched 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.200 the do your matches, you know, and and it was 0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.799 so nice, like I kind of saw you blossom, you know. 0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.319 So when I saw you on w w A, I 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.840 was just like I was proud, like I felt like 0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:49.120 because I love seeing my friends thrive. Yeah, you know, 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.960 and and I was so happy for you. And again 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.600 I thought the gimmick was adorable, like really really cute stuff. 0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.279 I loved it. I get the insecurity thing because I 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:03.880 think off emails go through being insecure, you know, with weight, 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.919 with looks, with this, that and the other thing. I'm 0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:10.000 not a Barbie doll. I didn't look like the other girls. 0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.520 I felt like I had to work twenty million times 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:16.800 harder to prove myself that I deserved to be in 0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:20.400 this industry. So I get what you're saying, but to me, 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.680 you looked perfect and you fit that part well and 0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:27.120 you did a great job. I'm excited that you're starting 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.760 to do some signings. I know you say you're completely 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.400 out of the business, but do you have anything coming 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:37.600 up anytime soon that people should be aware of. No, 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:41.279 no signings just yet, just more social media cameos. Things 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.160 like that. So, okay, you're on cameo, what's your uh? 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:48.560 What your little do? They just look you up under Cherry? Yeah, 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:53.439 under Cherry, DDC chick okay, d yeah, I just did 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:57.359 some this morning. So cameos are very good. Yeah, if 0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:01.160 anybody wants to look her up on Cameoshla, she'll wish 0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.160 you a happy birthday or she'll heal the sheet out 0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.560 of you, one or the other. That's right, are the best? 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.120 I love that. Yes, they're fun. And then on social 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:14.000 media where can people find you? So Twitter, I'm former 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:18.120 Diva Cherry so fm R Diva Cherry, and then Instagram 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.760 I'm also d DC chick. Awesome. Well, honey, I loved 0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:26.120 speaking with you. It's been way too long and way 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.319 too long. Hopefully you'll get booked on one of these 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:32.640 conventions and we'll bump into each other, and yes, for sure, 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.160 I would love that, Yes, that would be wonderful. But 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:39.160 until then, we'll keep in touch and nothing but luck 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:42.719 to you. Enjoy Florida, enjoy your job, and you look 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:46.359 beautiful and I'm so happy that you well, yeah, thank you. 0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.919 I'm so happy that we got to share this little 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.759 bit of time together. So everybody got hopefully out in 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:53.840 Florida and then we can do like coffee or something. 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:55.960 I would love that. I'm trying to believe me, this 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.080 is why I'm working to move my ass down there. 0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:01.720 So hopefully I will see you go later, and everybody, please, 0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:04.640 uh you know, go follow Cherry because she's she's an 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:11.920 awesome chick. So absolutely, I'll talk to you soul. She 0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:16.840 looks awesome and there goes Cherry. Interesting story. I never 0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:20.759 really knew the story about how she got there, so 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:25.560 very very uh very interesting. And yeah, I had no 0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.800 idea about the New Jersey background. Oh yeah, that's she's 0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.000 I didn't know. I knew she was from Jersey. I 0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.360 just didn't know the full I mean, that was a 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:35.799 that was a rocket list of I thought she was 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:39.439 like so much younger. Like when when I would see 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.960 her on these shows, I'm just like, oh, but I 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:45.839 don't know. But she looks great and it was nice 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:50.759 to hear her story because absolute, but you know, the 0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:55.640 whole insecurity part gets me really sad. Yeah, that's absolutely 0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.759 I went through I still go through it now. You know. 0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:02.759 I just being a woman, especially in an industry where 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:06.120 it's male dominated and your fans are probably, you know, 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.879 eighty five to ninety percent mail most of the time. 0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:14.560 It's hard. You can't always fit the description of bombshell 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.440 in people's eyes. So I totally get what she's saying, 0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:22.440 but I think she's delayful. Yeah, I'm happy that she 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:26.680 was totally all right, Well, what else we got? I 0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:30.800 think we had to the wrap. Yeah, I think we 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.239 should know what we're doing on Patreon this week. Well, 0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:36.239 we've got some extras that will be recorded in transits, 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:40.000 so those are tb d'ed. Okay, so we don't know 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.239 what those will be, but we're gonna watch the One 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.320 Man Gang taking on the franchise. Shane Douglas from Scranton, 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:50.680 Wilkes Bar, Pennsylvania, December twenty seventh, nineteen ninety eight. Wilkes 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:54.520 Barry Looks Bar, Wioks Bar, whatever it's in Pennsylvania, go 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.560 find it. Okay. Yeah, I don't remember this match at all, 0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.799 so this should be an interesting You know, when do 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.880 I remember anything? 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