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Speaker 1: My name is Chad and every single week we hang
Speaker 1: out with the co host of the show here, the
Speaker 1: one and only queen of Extreme fran scene. It's me.
Speaker 1: It's me, the Queen of Extreme. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of a wrap. I need a new catchphrase for when
Speaker 1: we do YouTube because the stuff that I used to
Speaker 1: do on Twitch doesn't rhyme with YouTube. What you know,
Speaker 1: it's different, different terminology. So I'm trying to be a
Speaker 1: rapper now and it's not working out too good. What
Speaker 1: are some words that rhyme with tube? H bube or
Speaker 1: there's another one boobe? Yeah yeah, but no like with
Speaker 1: super chat. One of our one of our subscribers said,
Speaker 1: anytime you get a super chat, sing it to super freak.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, that's cute. Now I have to
Speaker 1: think of how to do it. Thanks about the super
Speaker 1: Chat super Chet you super chat E Yeah, he gave
Speaker 1: me super Chet super Chet super Jet. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be my entertaining self, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard. But anyway, what do you think
Speaker 1: about it so far? With the YouTube, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: when I left it, I was just like, eh, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll try something else, And now that I'm back, I
Speaker 1: have come through the realization I really like it compared
Speaker 1: to Twitch like YouTube, like they were saying, YouTube is
Speaker 1: more of a community and for the type of person
Speaker 1: that I am, I think it's a better fit than Twitch.
Speaker 1: I feel like Twitch is mostly for younger, uh the
Speaker 1: younger generation, the gamers, which I'm not a gamer. You know.
Speaker 1: I tried to play like Donkey Kong, like old school games.
Speaker 1: Now it didn't work out too great, But I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, what we do on YouTube is more accepted
Speaker 1: than it was on Twitch like. I feel more comfortable
Speaker 1: on YouTube and I like more so I'm I'm happy
Speaker 1: to be back. And for those wondering where I am
Speaker 1: on YouTube, it's ecw DVA free scene with an exclamation point,
Speaker 1: and we're doing all kinds of cool stuff. We're trying
Speaker 1: to get to five thousand subs. We are on our way. Yes,
Speaker 1: well it's it's you know, it's gonna be hard, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep working. We're gonna get there. So yeah, absolutely, no.
Speaker 1: The last video we put up talking about backstage politics
Speaker 1: was riveting. You know, it was a great conversation. I
Speaker 1: was listening back to it, you know, not playing with
Speaker 1: the algorithm making the numbers go up at all. I
Speaker 1: was just listening to and make sure it all worked.
Speaker 1: And I actually I felt like it was a very
Speaker 1: good back and forth, right. I just I felt the
Speaker 1: flow of it was really good and as a listener
Speaker 1: to digest it and it was a great choice. And
Speaker 1: that's what I like about YouTube. You know, you have
Speaker 1: so many pundits out there that can say whatever they want,
Speaker 1: and now we have somebody in the business giving their perspective.
Speaker 1: I thought that the clip worked perfect. Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy it. I like understand it more than
Speaker 1: I do Twitch, you know what I mean. Like I
Speaker 1: can navigate it better than I than I ever did
Speaker 1: on Twitch. So you know, but you have to try
Speaker 1: things to see what sticks. Yeah, yeah, I took I
Speaker 1: think it was like a two year hiatus. It even't
Speaker 1: been longer. But now that I'm back and I you know,
Speaker 1: I kept the channel open because I in the back
Speaker 1: of my mind I said, well, I don't want to
Speaker 1: just take the channel down. I want to keep it
Speaker 1: up and keep these subscribers. And I'm glad I did
Speaker 1: because most of them have come back. Seems like it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's good and we've added more new people. And
Speaker 1: you know, I notice sometimes when I check my like
Speaker 1: my Twitter numbers, I get more followers, like new followers
Speaker 1: on Twitter. So if if they come over and they
Speaker 1: hit the subscribe button on YouTube, I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: win win. So yeah, just trying to keep it entertaining
Speaker 1: and do fun stuff. So what happens. How was our
Speaker 1: weekend in New York? I'm going to predict I made
Speaker 1: a million dollars. I signed a motion picture deal and
Speaker 1: now I don't know yet because it's coming up. Oh okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: it's coming up. But I'm sure it was lovely. I'm
Speaker 1: sure we had a really good time and we taped
Speaker 1: a ton of content for Patreon extras, plus the main
Speaker 1: show we're gonna do one of the flashbacks, right yeah,
Speaker 1: or fast forwards whatever, flashback, Okay, whatever we're gonna call it.
Speaker 1: Did we get to meet the Undertaker? Probably not. He's
Speaker 1: probably in one of those rooms with several guards, Like
Speaker 1: I imagine he's in the special room with like the
Speaker 1: British guards that the Queen has outside a Buckingham Palace,
Speaker 1: with the chin straps that come on right underneath their
Speaker 1: their lip that annoys the hell out of them, but
Speaker 1: they can't move and they can't smile. That's what I
Speaker 1: pictured the Undertaker's room to be, Like, so I might
Speaker 1: sneak in? Should I just walk in and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here out the cow and you want to be
Speaker 1: on the podcast? Be like, so, did you think that
Speaker 1: spot was good that I talked to you about, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of twenty years ago? Do you think that
Speaker 1: really was good? Remember that time you and I were
Speaker 1: vibing in the hallway at uh, you know, the raw
Speaker 1: that night or whatever, and hell it was SmackDown. I
Speaker 1: don't even know where it was, but I'm sure he
Speaker 1: remembers quite the last minute addition to the show by
Speaker 1: I was shocked when I saw that Undertaker was the
Speaker 1: last announced guest. Oh and I'm like, really like five
Speaker 1: days before first to draw people into like saving the date.
Speaker 1: But maybe he maybe they just got him. It seems
Speaker 1: like it's either one of those things that they don't
Speaker 1: really care and they think that whatever they'd do is
Speaker 1: just gonna work, or they'd been working on it forever
Speaker 1: and it has it materialized and now finally went through.
Speaker 1: But you know, I hate to say, like the people
Speaker 1: who plan things out and what they want to spend,
Speaker 1: like they just got a major curve ball thrown at
Speaker 1: the yeah, right, because now they're going to need an
Speaker 1: extra two hundred and fifty dollars damn it. Well, I
Speaker 1: hope they still come see me. I did not make
Speaker 1: the final poster. Took a little hit there. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: but why did they put everybody who's on the card
Speaker 1: Except no, they I think there's only like eight people
Speaker 1: that they want the Yeah, the rest of us are
Speaker 1: and more well, and more is better than not and
Speaker 1: more my pictures on this site, I believe. So that's
Speaker 1: that's enough for me. But you know, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: we had a good time. So we'll talk about it
Speaker 1: next week as well. Very good. Yeah, excited. Well, my
Speaker 1: email bounced back to me that, oh wait, I see
Speaker 1: what the problem was. The guest email bounced back to me.
Speaker 1: But I see what the problem was, So no words.
Speaker 1: Take an extra minute. I'm cool as a cucumber kid.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this. This intermittent fasting is killing me.
Speaker 1: I want I kind of get up. I was trying,
Speaker 1: but I've I've I'm adreaming about food. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: all kinds of food. It's it's real, and and I'm
Speaker 1: watching like buffet reviews on YouTube. No, I'm dying over here.
Speaker 1: I'm so hungry and my weight is the same. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what am I doing wrong? That's the most frustrating part
Speaker 1: is you do all that stuff and you kick your
Speaker 1: freaking butt and you get no kind of relief, and
Speaker 1: then you go, well, why am I doing this to myself?
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I'm trying to. I am starting
Speaker 1: to see more definition in my mid section, like at abs.
Speaker 1: But you know, my problem is I have that bulge
Speaker 1: from the surgery. So I have these abs down here,
Speaker 1: but then on the top, I have this little bulge
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what do I do? Do I go
Speaker 1: see another doctor. Do I get another cat skiing because
Speaker 1: they can't find anything. It's really annoying, really annoying. But
Speaker 1: my calorie intake is low, man, I'm like on fumes.
Speaker 1: All I had today was a cup of coffee. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm like hungry. Are you angry yet? Not yet, but
Speaker 1: I will be probably in an hour. I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: may I have some porridge please? Just it's a little
Speaker 1: spot of taste, the finest gruel that we have in
Speaker 1: the cupboard, something to help me out. I'm so hungry
Speaker 1: and we have all these snacks in the house and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, I'm dying. So but we are
Speaker 1: replacing all the cereals with this new keto cereal had
Speaker 1: hubs found like one gram of sugar fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: grams of protein. Kids like it. It's chocolate, and then
Speaker 1: they have a peanut butter. They're puffs and the kids
Speaker 1: like those. So no more sugary cereals and then no
Speaker 1: more snack packs. He found protein balls, so they're all
Speaker 1: different flames. Routine balls. Yeah. I think they're like the
Speaker 1: little like you know, the the cheese balls. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: they got two pound container. We ordered them. I think
Speaker 1: they come tomorrow, so they have different flavors to them,
Speaker 1: and the kids are going to have to eat those
Speaker 1: because we're trying to get them to eat healthier because
Speaker 1: they you know, they're not the best when it comes
Speaker 1: to vegetables and fruit. Who is? Who is double it
Speaker 1: in there? Now? Have you ever tried like cauliflower wings
Speaker 1: or anything? Is there any way to gussie up the vegetables? No,
Speaker 1: I have not tried. I've had cauliflower wings and zucchini fries.
Speaker 1: Zucchini fries I love. I love califlower, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go on record, gets me a little gassie and I
Speaker 1: definitely don't have it. Yes, I stopped eating love. I
Speaker 1: used to roast it with garlic and olive, absolutely delicious,
Speaker 1: but by the end of the night my stomach expand
Speaker 1: into the size that I'm carrying a ten pound baby again.
Speaker 1: And no, so I stopped eating cauliflower. But zucchini. I
Speaker 1: love zucchini. I make zucchini just with olive oil and
Speaker 1: gar like. I don't even try it. I just sautee
Speaker 1: it and eat it. And yeah, we've had these, you know,
Speaker 1: like the steamer bags or you know a little like
Speaker 1: thing you put in the air fryer, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you want that kind of illusion of a wing.
Speaker 1: The Kariaki one was garbage. It tasted like crap. But
Speaker 1: the Buffalo barbecue, whatever the hell it is, Yeah, cauliflower wing.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. I'm gonna have to check that out.
Speaker 1: And our guest has Oh. So this is a woman
Speaker 1: that I knew god in the nineties, I guess, or
Speaker 1: early two thousands, it had to be, and she found
Speaker 1: fame in w w E. This is the former defense
Speaker 1: known as Cherry. I'm like sitting here talking and you're
Speaker 1: just like staring at me figure at the microphone. I
Speaker 1: was just I was saying, like, I don't remember what
Speaker 1: year you and I met, but you were Kars Slice. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I was. So that had to be good. Lord. Was
Speaker 1: that during ECW or right after ECW or you're in
Speaker 1: ECW and I think we did a show as in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: It was like an outside show. It was the first
Speaker 1: show we were on. But I think I met you
Speaker 1: before that, But yeah, you were an ECW and I
Speaker 1: still do in the Independence. Yeah, And I don't know
Speaker 1: why I was allowed to do an indie show when
Speaker 1: I was under contract that that happened a couple times.
Speaker 1: We've seen a few. We've watched a couple random New
Speaker 1: Jack City wrestling shows that you prob. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I was there, but I remember watching you. You
Speaker 1: were so young, and I said to myself, this girl
Speaker 1: is going to do something in this business. And you did.
Speaker 1: But I lost touch and I haven't seen you in forever.
Speaker 1: So when you popped up on Twitter and I noticed
Speaker 1: you were following me, so I followed you right back,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to get her on
Speaker 1: the show because I want to know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Where have you been? Have you been hiding somewhere? Like,
Speaker 1: what is what is going on in your world right now?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So I am fully out of wrestling, obviously,
Speaker 1: and it's been for a couple of years. But I'm
Speaker 1: in Florida. I just kind of started over, you know,
Speaker 1: and I sell insurance now for USAA. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I could say that, but I love it, you know,
Speaker 1: I love that job. I still get to meet a
Speaker 1: lot of people, and that's the fun part of it.
Speaker 1: I talk to people, you know, in all fifty states,
Speaker 1: and that's the fun part is meeting people and learning
Speaker 1: about them and stuff. So yeah, I just bought my
Speaker 1: first house in October, so yay, I okay, and you're
Speaker 1: you're in Florida. This is why I'm working because I
Speaker 1: am trying to get to Florida. Oh what part of
Speaker 1: Florida are you coming to? Well, nowhere yet, but I'm
Speaker 1: looking like if you go to my zillow, it's Simmy
Speaker 1: Orlando's celebration because I am like a big theme park girl. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I would love to be in the vicinity of
Speaker 1: all the parks and maybe try to become a blogger
Speaker 1: of all things Disney and University and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But you know that's a dream. I mean, I'm fifty
Speaker 1: years old. What the hell did I think I'm doing
Speaker 1: blogging with my life? I don't know. But do what
Speaker 1: you want to do with your life, you know. You
Speaker 1: know that's that's good advice because I have to My
Speaker 1: kids love it. My kids. I mean we were just
Speaker 1: there two weeks ago. I think I told you we
Speaker 1: were there for sieteen days and it went by like that,
Speaker 1: and my kids were so happy the whole trip, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're good kids in general. But I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, God if we live down here, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: be happy all the time. Yeah yeah. I mean there's
Speaker 1: some diehard Disney fans down here. I'm not one of them.
Speaker 1: I mean I live more Wesley Chapel. Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 1: my sister just visited from California this past week and
Speaker 1: her kids are not theme park kids, so we didn't
Speaker 1: even do that stuff. So now when you say Wesley Tchuvel,
Speaker 1: is that near water? There's a water grass out here.
Speaker 1: It's getting built up. So I'm kind of Zephyr Hill's
Speaker 1: Wesley Chapel area. So I'm way inland okay, Okay, yeah
Speaker 1: down there. Oh yeah. The heats of the only thing
Speaker 1: I don't like. The heat could be bearable. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're from the Northeast, so you're you're either gonna get
Speaker 1: really cold or really hot, right. I would prefer really
Speaker 1: hot over really cold, I know. And the beaches are
Speaker 1: so nice down here, a lot nicer than you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh well, I am super jealous of you. Let's go
Speaker 1: back a little bit. Okay, how did you get involved?
Speaker 1: Because I see you in the indies. Who who was
Speaker 1: the one that trained you? Initially? The boys kind of
Speaker 1: really yeah, so I met a promoter AJ Sparks through
Speaker 1: Carmine Savia, and I'd been working in the cellular industry
Speaker 1: selling cell phones and stuff like that. So I had
Speaker 1: met a friend whose uncle Carmine Savia. She's like, you
Speaker 1: know a lot about wrestling, So we talked and then
Speaker 1: it was all about networking. I mean, we all know
Speaker 1: networking gets you ahead in line, right, So he got
Speaker 1: me in contact with AJ Sparks and Kevin Knight. I
Speaker 1: met them, went to a show and just went to
Speaker 1: a show like I wasn't like, I didn't know that's
Speaker 1: how you get involved in wrestling. I was just a
Speaker 1: wrestling fan, you know. I didn't know there was a
Speaker 1: school and all that stuff. So anyway, I just networked
Speaker 1: and then I met Bobcat and then I met Danny Inferno,
Speaker 1: and Danny Inferno was the one so I did. I
Speaker 1: met Julio Denarira, I traveled a lot with so I
Speaker 1: valeted for him a lot, and I know you know
Speaker 1: him very well. So I just met people and went
Speaker 1: to different shows. And my boyfriend at the time, Jude
Speaker 1: was young, had already been in wrestling, so I did
Speaker 1: shows with him. I found my own network and just
Speaker 1: kind of saturated the area when I could, you know,
Speaker 1: because Weekend Warriors, right, sure? And how old are you
Speaker 1: when you when you start twenty late twenties? I remember
Speaker 1: late No, I started in ninety nine. I started turning
Speaker 1: in ninety nine. Late twenties. Yeah, here, I'm thinking, you're
Speaker 1: like nineteen years old. No, I'm good. I smoke up
Speaker 1: your ass. I'm like, she's young. She's like nineteen twenty
Speaker 1: years old. I don't feel though, how old I am
Speaker 1: now either. So yeah, so that was just a lot
Speaker 1: of networking, did a lot of independence, try to saturate
Speaker 1: as much as I could, And that's kind of how
Speaker 1: it started. I mean, I was just like, I'll just
Speaker 1: do this until I don't like it anymore, and just
Speaker 1: kept going. So you're having fun. And I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: but that name is ringing a bell. Is that Carmine
Speaker 1: cb a guy, the one that never left his house? Yes? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I've got an interaction with him, and I do remember
Speaker 1: that name. Okay, Jars and Strip Championship Wrestling, which never
Speaker 1: really kind of got out there, but yeah, whatever he
Speaker 1: was able to, he was able to do something. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he was my real first connection to the indies. Yeah. Interesting. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you come to these shows, you start doing manager work.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming because you're not gonna jump in the ring yet,
Speaker 1: right to will Fledge match. Right. Do you all in
Speaker 1: love with it right away? Or are you saying to
Speaker 1: yourself what the hell am I doing here? I fall
Speaker 1: in love with it right away, Yeah, because I had
Speaker 1: a fan and Bobcat was so nice to me, and
Speaker 1: she was just the other female rival. We always had that, right,
Speaker 1: and we would go to shows together to talk to her.
Speaker 1: To this day, she was in my wedding. I mean,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, really good friend of mine. Yeah. I love Cindy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a great best, she's the best. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember seeing all you guys on shows that I
Speaker 1: was on. You know, I met Nova and his brother
Speaker 1: first off, which kind I got me. I knew about
Speaker 1: had been watching ECW, so Stevie Richards and all them
Speaker 1: would come to the shows, and they were smaller shows
Speaker 1: back then, you know, they weren't hugely packed or anything.
Speaker 1: I mean ECW was definitely drawing the crowds. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but uh I did. I fell in love with it
Speaker 1: and was like, I'll do the managing thing. And then
Speaker 1: I kind of got bored, so I went to I
Speaker 1: forget who told me, but I started to become friends
Speaker 1: with Tommy Fierro, Jus Young Inferno kid, Danniegimundo, and they
Speaker 1: told me about ecp W, which was Gino Caruso's school
Speaker 1: in Carsipia, Jersey. So then I went there. And from
Speaker 1: when I went, I never really saw Geno running classes.
Speaker 1: I know it was a school, but I ended up
Speaker 1: learning from the boys like Judas would work out with me,
Speaker 1: and Johnny Thunder would work out with me. So a
Speaker 1: lot of the like regular guys that would just go
Speaker 1: for a workout would teach me some stuff. So I
Speaker 1: kind of started from there and then started learning as
Speaker 1: I you know, So I'd go to the school like
Speaker 1: twice a week and I the weekend Warrior stuff and
Speaker 1: I learned more stuff there, so over time it got better.
Speaker 1: So I yeah, I was. I was starting to get
Speaker 1: bored at the valet. There's only so much you could do, right, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, then I started to learn to wrestle. Interject
Speaker 1: for a second. It's like the Hall of Fame of
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Indie, all these names, this is who I
Speaker 1: saw on the posters growing up or every single person
Speaker 1: that you're mentioning. So I love that. That's my favorite.
Speaker 1: I love the Jersey indies. Oh I'll drop some other
Speaker 1: names if I can remember. I dropped new Jack City Wrestling,
Speaker 1: and that's why I saw your reaction so well, So
Speaker 1: you okay, so you did the manager thing. Obviously you
Speaker 1: liked being a wrestler more. But I think, well, I
Speaker 1: was really nervous at first because I just didn't think
Speaker 1: I was very athletic. So I took it a little
Speaker 1: bit at a time. I didn't take on big matches
Speaker 1: or anything like that, just and a lot of the
Speaker 1: girls around me they weren't. The most experienced was Mickey
Speaker 1: James that really I would do shows with. All the
Speaker 1: other girls were not really that season. So it took
Speaker 1: a little bit for me to to get the hang
Speaker 1: of it. So and then I started to do better
Speaker 1: because then I was able to do managing half wrestling
Speaker 1: full wrestling matches. So at first, it was the little
Speaker 1: because your body has so use to that you know,
Speaker 1: you know it feels so as unfortunately, and the nerve
Speaker 1: wrack of wrestling in front of a crowd and remembering
Speaker 1: you know what you're you're planning on doing and God
Speaker 1: forbid something happen you have to go off of that.
Speaker 1: That was still I was always struggled with knowing how
Speaker 1: much time, Like, oh, you have a minute left? Like
Speaker 1: I always struggled with the time. Yeah, and you're doing indies,
Speaker 1: so you have a minute left? Like no, I can
Speaker 1: have five ten minutes Like this isn't television like that.
Speaker 1: I never understood. I mean, I know they have to
Speaker 1: get out of there at a certain time and stuff,
Speaker 1: but yeah, pressure on everybody, and it's like, come on,
Speaker 1: it's an indie show. Let them exactly. I don't get it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So so you work really really hard. How does WWF
Speaker 1: or was it was he at the time, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't even know. How do how do you get on
Speaker 1: their radar? So Danny and Jimundo was already in Kentucky
Speaker 1: when OVW was the developmental and I had managed him
Speaker 1: a lot too. So they had a tryout training camp
Speaker 1: for OVW and he told me about it. He's like,
Speaker 1: you're perfect for this. And he told me and my
Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time, you're perfect for this. And so
Speaker 1: I was like, eh, I'm going to set in my
Speaker 1: application and I was like, they're not going to accept me,
Speaker 1: and they did. And then I was like, I'll go
Speaker 1: for the weekend and do weekend stuff all the time,
Speaker 1: right because it was only a Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so I went and it was
Speaker 1: just like that, I mean, you did. I didn't think
Speaker 1: anything of it. I was like, oh, they're never going
Speaker 1: to take me. I'm just you know, good experience, like
Speaker 1: because we had done like my boyfriend and I do
Speaker 1: went down to Memphis and did Terry Golden's developmental when
Speaker 1: it was back then, so we were used to kind
Speaker 1: of doing that. So I went and I was one
Speaker 1: of two girls in the class and as well for
Speaker 1: you at that time, right right, and for some on
Speaker 1: the second day, she like hit in the bathroom, so
Speaker 1: she was super intimidated. It was. I never saw her again,
Speaker 1: but so that he looked good, right. And then I
Speaker 1: had I been networking, so I knew a lot of
Speaker 1: the kids that were already there. I knew Pat Buck
Speaker 1: was there, and Damian Adams was there, and Damian and
Speaker 1: I would would train every week together, so we already
Speaker 1: knew each other. So long story short, we did that
Speaker 1: and then I called Danny Davis like that week when
Speaker 1: I got home and thanked him for the opportunity, and
Speaker 1: he said, you know, we see a lot in you
Speaker 1: and we would love for you to come and train
Speaker 1: at OVW. And he was very clear, this is OBW. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's the developmental for WW at the time, but you're
Speaker 1: coming for OVW. There's no promise, you guarantee. So, like
Speaker 1: something in my gut just said do it. So I
Speaker 1: left a job that I loved and I was making
Speaker 1: really good money and I just took a chance, so
Speaker 1: get down there. And August of five and they did
Speaker 1: their TVs on Wednesday. So the girl that used to
Speaker 1: be the ring girl for whatever reason wouldn't make it
Speaker 1: or whatever. I was like, I'll do it. Like I
Speaker 1: just was like, whatever I can do, right, So I'd
Speaker 1: been doing classes. You show up to the TV and
Speaker 1: help out, you show up to the weekend house shows,
Speaker 1: you help out. I mean it was just constant. So
Speaker 1: I got on as the ring girl. So long story short,
Speaker 1: Deuce was down there already. And I'd known Deuce for
Speaker 1: a long time because he started in ECPW in the
Speaker 1: same year that I did. However, he would come with
Speaker 1: his dad on times where nobody else was there and
Speaker 1: they would train. So I had met him a few
Speaker 1: times and did indie shows with him and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: so you know, again i'd already that worked. I knew
Speaker 1: a lot of people already there besides Inferno. So long
Speaker 1: story short, after one of the TVs, he approached me
Speaker 1: and said that, you know, him and Cliff were working
Speaker 1: on this gimmick and they didn't really they wanted a
Speaker 1: girl on old school roller skates, and he wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, give me the opportunity to put it together
Speaker 1: with them because Deuce was signed a Cliff wasn't either,
Speaker 1: Dumbina wasn't either. So they showed me the promos that
Speaker 1: they had been working on because for some reason, Cliff
Speaker 1: was in the He had gotten into the advanced class,
Speaker 1: so he had been there for a while. So they'd
Speaker 1: been working on promo class this greaser gimmick, and they
Speaker 1: wanted a girl on old school roller skates. They didn't
Speaker 1: know what she looked like, they didn't know her name.
Speaker 1: They just wanted her on old school roller skates for
Speaker 1: the gimmick. So so I was like, wow, Like, so
Speaker 1: Jimmy knew me and knew kind of what he said
Speaker 1: was my work ethics, so he's like, let's ask her,
Speaker 1: you know. So it kind of came together all in
Speaker 1: one week and it almost didn't happen. So that so
Speaker 1: Wednesday was TV. Jimmy approached me that coming Tuesday, Johnny's
Speaker 1: and everybody was coming down to evaluate who was down there.
Speaker 1: So we didn't tell anybody that we were putting this together.
Speaker 1: So I had to go out and find the skates.
Speaker 1: I had to find the outfit and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So we kind of like scrambled, and on Sunday we
Speaker 1: got together at the school, came up with my name.
Speaker 1: It was either going to be Cherry from Outsiders or
Speaker 1: Sandy from Greece, and wrestling wise, Cherry is me sure.
Speaker 1: So so then Tuesday, well, Monday night comes around and
Speaker 1: Jimmy calls me and he's like, hey, Danny's not Danny
Speaker 1: said you can't come because it's only for contracted talent,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, like and I
Speaker 1: was just like bummed. But what could I do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So my boyfriend at the time, Judas Young, was actually
Speaker 1: coming in to visit, so I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll just get you know, clean the house and like
Speaker 1: have everything ready's coming. You know. He's like, just be ready.
Speaker 1: He's going to go down and really fight for me. So,
Speaker 1: long story short, he fights for me. The day of.
Speaker 1: He calls me, He's like, get down here. So I
Speaker 1: grab all of my stuff. I run into Davis Arena
Speaker 1: and the first person I sees Rip Rogers. Now I'm
Speaker 1: in class. I didn't tell him what was going on,
Speaker 1: and he looks at me and was like, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? You're late, and I'm like wanted to be,
Speaker 1: like Rip, I didn't mean to be. You don't understand.
Speaker 1: So I run into the girl's locker room and change
Speaker 1: really quick, and again nobody knows that this is going on.
Speaker 1: So I come out in my skates and I hadn't
Speaker 1: roller skated since I was like little. Oh well, so
Speaker 1: of course, do some domino across Davis Arena. So I
Speaker 1: roll and I said to do something like catch me.
Speaker 1: It couldn't stop. It was like a pin drop. It
Speaker 1: was the best feeling ever. So I roll out and
Speaker 1: everybody stopped talking. They were like watching me roll across.
Speaker 1: That is so great. Your name should have been Cherry Pop.
Speaker 1: That's funny because I'll get that Cherry. That's so great
Speaker 1: sure that I had in WWE that I that I
Speaker 1: was using. I wanted to use cherry pop, but Vince
Speaker 1: mixed it out. So Mick Foley's like, what's your what's
Speaker 1: your finisher? And I was like cherry pop And they
Speaker 1: ended up calling it the do Wop Drop because Vince
Speaker 1: didn't like it. And then and Mick was like, I tried, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So you you come out with the skates. Do you
Speaker 1: have the big you know, the big skirt, the big
Speaker 1: poodle skirt and the hole the hair up. And I
Speaker 1: didn't have the poodle skirt. I had this like blowout skirt.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of want to can make shift?
Speaker 1: You know when that because you had five minutes to
Speaker 1: prepare for this big Yeah, of course, right, Okay. So
Speaker 1: we go through the day. They do matches, you know,
Speaker 1: they do drills, they do all of that stuff, and
Speaker 1: Johnny Aish just kept having He's like he's like, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: bring your team, Jimmy, bring your team. So we got
Speaker 1: up to the point where we were doing promos and
Speaker 1: we all get online for promos and Johnny goes to Cliff,
Speaker 1: he goes, I want you guys up next. Because they
Speaker 1: would go into Danny's office and watch us on the
Speaker 1: TV on the cameras. So we made us skip the line.
Speaker 1: So we go and do our thing. And we had
Speaker 1: been working on promos so that worked. So long story short, like,
Speaker 1: they ended up cutting it because we had a ton
Speaker 1: of people there and Arne was there, Tedy Biassi was there,
Speaker 1: there were so many uh, Doctor Tom Rip, Danny Davis.
Speaker 1: So they greet the room, They're like, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. They give us words of wisdom
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and then Johnny goes, Jimmy, bring
Speaker 1: your team into the office. I was like, what, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they just so Johnny brings us in and basically says,
Speaker 1: we loved it, this is great, this is awesome. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I almost didn't even make this right. So
Speaker 1: he says, we want to sign you. And that's all
Speaker 1: I heard. Oh I did hear? He goes, oh, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could wrestle. Like they knew nothing
Speaker 1: about me. They didn't knew that. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: I was in the classes I had been on the indies.
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, you bus So I was like,
Speaker 1: I was there for four months Grant scene four months
Speaker 1: unheard of incredible. And the funny thing is they wanted
Speaker 1: to debut us that next Monday after all, So we
Speaker 1: got booked to go to the House Show that weekend,
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh my god, we're like a week old.
Speaker 1: So you're training down there for four months, you get
Speaker 1: thrown into this position you know this, yeah, right place,
Speaker 1: right time kind of sort of because you made it
Speaker 1: to the right place at the right time, right and
Speaker 1: then the next week we want you on row. What
Speaker 1: your mind? Are you blown away at this point? Completely
Speaker 1: blown away? Yeah? Completely blown away? It sounds like to me,
Speaker 1: you're you're having a positive experience in ov W Yes,
Speaker 1: oh was the best? Do you feel like you were
Speaker 1: ready for all? We definitely didn't think we were ready.
Speaker 1: We were a week old. I mean, the boys had
Speaker 1: been working. We didn't get that chemistry really yet. So
Speaker 1: they ended us flying us in the House Show loop
Speaker 1: and we were supposed to do something with superstar Billy
Speaker 1: Graham that Monday, I think like his book was coming
Speaker 1: out or something. You were going to interrupt it or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then we ended up going but they didn't use
Speaker 1: us a scrapped it, which was a godsend because we
Speaker 1: ended up staying down in OVW for a year, So
Speaker 1: we ended up debuting a year to the day that
Speaker 1: Cliff and I got signed January nineteenth, Oh wow, which
Speaker 1: gave us that time to marinate. So it was a blessing, yeah,
Speaker 1: to work on the characters chemistry together. And when you
Speaker 1: finally go up to the main roster, how long were
Speaker 1: you there for and what was your opinion? Because I
Speaker 1: know back then I worked there in two thousand and
Speaker 1: six and it was very negative for me. And it's
Speaker 1: either anybody who says anything, it's either the most wonderful
Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to them or they wanted to
Speaker 1: kill themselves because it was the worst experience of their life.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to kill myself over it, but I
Speaker 1: would have to not be there. What her experience positive, negative,
Speaker 1: it was. I wasn't really sure of anything, so I
Speaker 1: just kind of kept to myself and was quiet, and
Speaker 1: you know, just said my hellos and stayed in the corner,
Speaker 1: and you know, it wasn't I just kind of like
Speaker 1: followed my lead and then met up with the boys
Speaker 1: and what do we need to do? And you know,
Speaker 1: I had known some people from OVW or what have you.
Speaker 1: But I didn't in the beginning. It wasn't bad. I
Speaker 1: just didn't know what to do and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do the wrong thing. So I just kind of
Speaker 1: like stayed the straight and narrow and I go back
Speaker 1: to my hotel room at night and be like, oh, breathing.
Speaker 1: Nobody was ever meant me or anything like that, right
Speaker 1: and right. It was just navigating this new environment and
Speaker 1: this new, bigger environment. It's like I'm here, like wait,
Speaker 1: I'm here, you know. So I never had any bad experiences.
Speaker 1: I know I'm not made for that industry I feel,
Speaker 1: or that television environment. Like I'm just a normal girl
Speaker 1: that loves wrestling and was able to live my dream.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the like politiicy stuff I didn't
Speaker 1: really understand. But kay, I feel like I got along
Speaker 1: with everybody. I feel like I had a decent time.
Speaker 1: I started to struggle with myself towards the end, which
Speaker 1: was not delightful. So it wasn't because of somebody being
Speaker 1: mean to me or budding heads with anybody, or I mean,
Speaker 1: we all get struggles with the creative team and how
Speaker 1: the story's going. And that was you know, natural, I feel,
Speaker 1: but I had a bad time in sense because of myself.
Speaker 1: I got super in secure and I felt so out
Speaker 1: of place, and even though they were doing stuff with
Speaker 1: me and it was going really well for me, I
Speaker 1: just got super insecure and self conscious, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we all I crumbled within myself, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't because of somebody else. Like all the girls to
Speaker 1: me were very nice to me, and you were very
Speaker 1: nice to me and Shelley, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: chaotic when everybody there. Yeah, I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: difference between you and I, like I always say, it
Speaker 1: was a great opportunity for me. You know, I'm glad
Speaker 1: I took the opportunity, but it wasn't my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: That's what I say. The difference is me going in there,
Speaker 1: there was no plan so to speak. I was told
Speaker 1: one thing, and then as soon as I got there,
Speaker 1: that was like that conversation never happened. And they they
Speaker 1: no one was on board with that because nobody knew
Speaker 1: what I was told to sign the contract, right, So
Speaker 1: you know, I was told something and then I go
Speaker 1: in there and I have to do something completely different.
Speaker 1: Like you, I would say, you're kind of homegrown in
Speaker 1: a sense that you were never signed anywhere and they
Speaker 1: molded you. You trained with them, so I had thirteen
Speaker 1: years experience, but it wasn't experienced with them. So I
Speaker 1: go in there and I'm pretty much scared to death.
Speaker 1: I have my tail between my legs, humble as hell,
Speaker 1: you know, trying I'm getting I'm getting people stuff from
Speaker 1: catering that have been in the business for six months,
Speaker 1: like I'm serving people like I'm just trying to fit in.
Speaker 1: I don't want to cause any waves. And then I'm
Speaker 1: told I don't politic enough an office. You're not politic enough.
Speaker 1: You're not out there, You're you're not trying to get
Speaker 1: a spot. You're like watching paint dry. So when I
Speaker 1: hear you say, you know you kept to yourself, I
Speaker 1: did the same thing, but I got heat for it.
Speaker 1: I got tru wo oh yeah, yeah, it was a tope.
Speaker 1: It was like you and I are kind of like
Speaker 1: the same person. We have the same mind frame about
Speaker 1: that place, but if we did things kind of equally,
Speaker 1: but it was a different reaction. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the problem. It's I've always said I never felt like
Speaker 1: everybody was on the same team like, hey, you want
Speaker 1: me to go do this, and I come back and
Speaker 1: I do something you don't want me to do. They
Speaker 1: don't tell you like, hey, we would have rather you
Speaker 1: have done this, like they it's such a guessing game.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, nothing's ever the same. Like when
Speaker 1: I did my match with Natty it was her debut
Speaker 1: match and Fit and us we put it together and
Speaker 1: it went over really well. We come back, I mean
Speaker 1: standing ovation in Gorilla, right, So I'm like, yay. So
Speaker 1: they loved it. It went well and Fit was happy.
Speaker 1: So the next week I did another match. It was
Speaker 1: exactly the way they wanted it, or how I knew.
Speaker 1: Came back and nobody would look at me, Nobody would
Speaker 1: tell me anything, nobody would say anything. I'm like, did
Speaker 1: I make a mistake? Did I do what you wanted
Speaker 1: me to do? Like your agents won't even tell you
Speaker 1: what's going on, not after that second one, So I
Speaker 1: was like, what this is weird? So I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying, because things you could, they could want one
Speaker 1: thing from you, and then I can be doing that
Speaker 1: same thing and it's and it's like you're not doing
Speaker 1: it right, but I'm doing it. I totally totally get
Speaker 1: what you're saying and it doesn't make any sense, and
Speaker 1: like do you get heat for it that you don't
Speaker 1: know about? Because you know, I can't even tell you
Speaker 1: how many times I sat in front of Johnny East
Speaker 1: and cried and asked for my release and was like,
Speaker 1: this isn't a good fit for me, because like you're
Speaker 1: presenting ideas and no one's listening to you. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's super frustrating to me and for somebody
Speaker 1: I'm not lackadaisil lackadaisical when it comes to working, Like,
Speaker 1: my ethic is really high because at one point, like
Speaker 1: and you were the same way. We love this business
Speaker 1: and you wanted to work and you wanted to grow,
Speaker 1: and you know, I kept saying to them, I want
Speaker 1: to work, I want to work. It was like going
Speaker 1: in one ear nail, no one cared that I was
Speaker 1: even there, and I'm thinking, why am I hired? You know,
Speaker 1: in your instance, you were there, you trained, they saw
Speaker 1: something in you, and they're salivating to get you on
Speaker 1: TV right away. And you know, you take a year,
Speaker 1: you get your craft. You you know, go with these
Speaker 1: two guys and you become a threesome that they love,
Speaker 1: and yet you're doing things that they're not approving and
Speaker 1: no one's telling you what you're doing wrong. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they approved or approved or not. Nobody
Speaker 1: told me either way, so you know if but looking
Speaker 1: back on it now, obviously not in the moment, you
Speaker 1: don't understand, but just talking to Natty and talking to
Speaker 1: TJ and talking you know, I ran into dema go
Speaker 1: in the airports and you know, being able to talk
Speaker 1: to people every time. It's not just us talent where
Speaker 1: things kind of go. They're just you don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. It's the producers too, So I think, yes,
Speaker 1: I may have felt like what is going on? And
Speaker 1: somebody tell me like should I have done this? Should
Speaker 1: I do that? Was that perfect? Was that? Not? Was?
Speaker 1: They're getting that too. So I think everybody's in this
Speaker 1: like dire circle of like what's going on? What are
Speaker 1: the agents there for? They're there to critique your work
Speaker 1: there telling you no, that's what they do. You have
Speaker 1: an agent, you know, everybody has their agents back there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Stephen Kern was one of my agents all the time,
Speaker 1: and he made me need that all the time, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't work much for them like we did. I
Speaker 1: worked every house show, loop and stuff for six months,
Speaker 1: but I didn't get a lot of TV time because, honestly,
Speaker 1: I you know, I was paired up with balls. And
Speaker 1: then he took your test and he had drugs in
Speaker 1: his system and got kicked off the road. And then
Speaker 1: it was like, go get a bathing suit you're gonna
Speaker 1: do and I'm just like, I don't want to do.
Speaker 1: I don't do these bikinis. I never did bikini stuff.
Speaker 1: And I'm in my mid thirties now. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's like if you go to
Speaker 1: the office and you say I can do this, this
Speaker 1: and this, and Vince McMahon tells me, I know nothing
Speaker 1: about you. Well, it's your company, dude, Why am I
Speaker 1: even here? Yeah, you know what I mean. Like when
Speaker 1: you say there's no feedback, I kind of get that.
Speaker 1: And at some point I just said to myself, they're
Speaker 1: just telling me things that I want to hear at
Speaker 1: this point, and I can't do anything to change it
Speaker 1: because they're not willing to change anything. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: some people knew. I remember one time we were in
Speaker 1: the car about to drive out for our entrance, our
Speaker 1: music was playing and we were wrestling. Lennon Kendrick and
Speaker 1: our agent came over and was like, they just changed
Speaker 1: it again and they jumped out of the Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: looking back on it now, I think everybody feels that way,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like the producers
Speaker 1: feel that way, and the wrestlers feel that way, and
Speaker 1: we feel that way, and so it's Yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: I say, like, I'm just a normal girl who's not
Speaker 1: used to that kind of life. Sign Yeah, well it's uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was apples and oranges. ECW was
Speaker 1: so laid back, and then you get to this place
Speaker 1: and it's like a zoo really is like a zoo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how long how long did you last there on the
Speaker 1: main rock? You were there, you know, VW for a year,
Speaker 1: then you move off, Yes, and then I was Oh,
Speaker 1: so I got released August of eight with the Crash
Speaker 1: of Everybody. Domino got released the week before me. Then
Speaker 1: I got released in the second Talent releases, and then
Speaker 1: the last two weeks of the month they let a
Speaker 1: ton of people from Headquarters go. So so roughly about
Speaker 1: three years with the coming yeah, two two and a half. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: regret it or learning experience. No, okay, I know it's
Speaker 1: a blessing. Now I can see now that it was
Speaker 1: a blessing. I just take it. You know. I wish
Speaker 1: I could have done more, but it was I take
Speaker 1: responsibility for it because I did not towards the end,
Speaker 1: when I got super in my head and I got
Speaker 1: super insecure, I didn't take I didn't invest in myself
Speaker 1: like Natty invests in herself. And she lives ten minutes
Speaker 1: from I moved closer up towards where she is, so
Speaker 1: you know, she just invests in herself. She can do
Speaker 1: pr she can do matches, she can carry people, she
Speaker 1: can build people, she can do everything. And I didn't
Speaker 1: do that. You know, I was so nervous, I was hiding.
Speaker 1: I was nervous about, you know, being seen. I just
Speaker 1: I got so insecure that I didn't take the advantage
Speaker 1: of Fit and Regal and just these people that I
Speaker 1: could have really picked their brain from, and I just
Speaker 1: got so it was my fault. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: blame them for letting me go. I didn't. They wanted
Speaker 1: to do stuff with me, and I should have taken
Speaker 1: advantage of it. But I don't think I was in
Speaker 1: my own mindset to be able to I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's it's upsetting to think of
Speaker 1: it like that because I just know that they were
Speaker 1: planning on doing things with me. But I honestly, I
Speaker 1: take the responsibility. I dropped the ball. Okay. So I
Speaker 1: also feel like, if you know, back then we had
Speaker 1: social media and everything like they have now, because we
Speaker 1: really didn't have all this, you know, Twitter and Instagram
Speaker 1: and all this bullet right, we could have reinvented ourselves
Speaker 1: and pushed ourselves more. But you know, back then, I
Speaker 1: had a flip phone, and you know, I think the
Speaker 1: only messaging I remember was like, wwe had a message
Speaker 1: board on the on dot com or something probably yeah,
Speaker 1: and the stupid dirt cheeks, which you know ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the time are wrong anyway. So I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I felt like every time that I watched you, you
Speaker 1: looked beautiful and I could I could just think back
Speaker 1: to when I thought you were a kid, but apparently
Speaker 1: you weren't. You looked like a kid to me, I
Speaker 1: saw you grow as not only a woman, but as
Speaker 1: a performer. Like I I watched you from just this
Speaker 1: this little girl outside the ring, and then I watched
Speaker 1: the do your matches, you know, and and it was
Speaker 1: so nice, like I kind of saw you blossom, you know.
Speaker 1: So when I saw you on w w A, I
Speaker 1: was just like I was proud, like I felt like
Speaker 1: because I love seeing my friends thrive. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I was so happy for you. And again
Speaker 1: I thought the gimmick was adorable, like really really cute stuff.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I get the insecurity thing because I
Speaker 1: think off emails go through being insecure, you know, with weight,
Speaker 1: with looks, with this, that and the other thing. I'm
Speaker 1: not a Barbie doll. I didn't look like the other girls.
Speaker 1: I felt like I had to work twenty million times
Speaker 1: harder to prove myself that I deserved to be in
Speaker 1: this industry. So I get what you're saying, but to me,
Speaker 1: you looked perfect and you fit that part well and
Speaker 1: you did a great job. I'm excited that you're starting
Speaker 1: to do some signings. I know you say you're completely
Speaker 1: out of the business, but do you have anything coming
Speaker 1: up anytime soon that people should be aware of. No,
Speaker 1: no signings just yet, just more social media cameos. Things
Speaker 1: like that. So, okay, you're on cameo, what's your uh?
Speaker 1: What your little do? They just look you up under Cherry? Yeah,
Speaker 1: under Cherry, DDC chick okay, d yeah, I just did
Speaker 1: some this morning. So cameos are very good. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: anybody wants to look her up on Cameoshla, she'll wish
Speaker 1: you a happy birthday or she'll heal the sheet out
Speaker 1: of you, one or the other. That's right, are the best?
Speaker 1: I love that. Yes, they're fun. And then on social
Speaker 1: media where can people find you? So Twitter, I'm former
Speaker 1: Diva Cherry so fm R Diva Cherry, and then Instagram
Speaker 1: I'm also d DC chick. Awesome. Well, honey, I loved
Speaker 1: speaking with you. It's been way too long and way
Speaker 1: too long. Hopefully you'll get booked on one of these
Speaker 1: conventions and we'll bump into each other, and yes, for sure,
Speaker 1: I would love that, Yes, that would be wonderful. But
Speaker 1: until then, we'll keep in touch and nothing but luck
Speaker 1: to you. Enjoy Florida, enjoy your job, and you look
Speaker 1: beautiful and I'm so happy that you well, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that we got to share this little
Speaker 1: bit of time together. So everybody got hopefully out in
Speaker 1: Florida and then we can do like coffee or something.
Speaker 1: I would love that. I'm trying to believe me, this
Speaker 1: is why I'm working to move my ass down there.
Speaker 1: So hopefully I will see you go later, and everybody, please,
Speaker 1: uh you know, go follow Cherry because she's she's an
Speaker 1: awesome chick. So absolutely, I'll talk to you soul. She
Speaker 1: looks awesome and there goes Cherry. Interesting story. I never
Speaker 1: really knew the story about how she got there, so
Speaker 1: very very uh very interesting. And yeah, I had no
Speaker 1: idea about the New Jersey background. Oh yeah, that's she's
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I knew she was from Jersey. I
Speaker 1: just didn't know the full I mean, that was a
Speaker 1: that was a rocket list of I thought she was
Speaker 1: like so much younger. Like when when I would see
Speaker 1: her on these shows, I'm just like, oh, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. But she looks great and it was nice
Speaker 1: to hear her story because absolute, but you know, the
Speaker 1: whole insecurity part gets me really sad. Yeah, that's absolutely
Speaker 1: I went through I still go through it now. You know.
Speaker 1: I just being a woman, especially in an industry where
Speaker 1: it's male dominated and your fans are probably, you know,
Speaker 1: eighty five to ninety percent mail most of the time.
Speaker 1: It's hard. You can't always fit the description of bombshell
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Speaker 1: but I think she's delayful. Yeah, I'm happy that she
Speaker 1: was totally all right, Well, what else we got? I
Speaker 1: think we had to the wrap. Yeah, I think we
Speaker 1: should know what we're doing on Patreon this week. Well,
Speaker 1: we've got some extras that will be recorded in transits,
Speaker 1: so those are tb d'ed. Okay, so we don't know
Speaker 1: what those will be, but we're gonna watch the One
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Speaker 1: I remember anything? Though? Did we work together? Yet? You
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