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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome episode number thirteen to the Hunting Collective.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ben o Brien. Today it is lu and I recap.

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Speaker 1: And if you're not aware, Lena is an island in

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Speaker 1: Hawaii in the middle of the ocean where all islands

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Speaker 1: tend to be. Uh. It's got a lot of deer

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Speaker 1: on it and they're called axis deer or chittled deer,

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Speaker 1: as Adam green Tree likes to call him. And we're

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Speaker 1: hunting them with a big old crew of archery Ninja's

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Speaker 1: savages that you all probably know pretty well. So no,

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Speaker 1: we didn't all get together to podcast. There was too

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Speaker 1: many of us that everybody wanted to hunt. They didn't

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Speaker 1: want to mess around talking into microphones because they are savages.

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Speaker 1: And so Sam Soholt and I pass guests of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Man many many wears. Photographer BLUs Junkie thinks of that

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Speaker 1: nature got together just to recap the whole damn thing.

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Speaker 1: And so that's this is that it is the LENNI Recap.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear stories about Adam green Street, Joe Rogan, Cam Haynes,

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Speaker 1: John Dudley, Shane Dorian, Remy Warren, Sammy sohol and El

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Speaker 1: Chopo and more. So please enjoy episode. Then we're live.

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to say that, but it's it'll probably

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Speaker 1: get cut out. We're here in Lanai, Hawaii, uh in

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Speaker 1: a house that we rented pretty much pretty much heaven

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Speaker 1: if you like chasing access here. Yep, I'm here with

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Speaker 1: Sam Sohol. You may know him from podcast number mm hmmm,

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Speaker 1: I don't know the number six seventh somewhere right in there. Yep.

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Speaker 1: You mean for that, or he may have seen his

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Speaker 1: bus or his photos or all the deer he kills

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Speaker 1: here and I try to only kill one a year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like some of the other people that have

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Speaker 1: joined us on this trip, where you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: just call this like the Lani recap. Yeah, mostly because

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Speaker 1: we couldn't convince anyone else the podcast. So they're all

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Speaker 1: too busy hunting killing animals, and they didn't want to

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Speaker 1: be bothered with sitting down the podcast. It's a funny.

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Speaker 1: It's a funny thing because you're basically sitting in paradise,

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Speaker 1: but like everyone's just on the go the whole time,

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Speaker 1: just need to be hunting. Well, the post I made

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, it's like you don't you're in paradise, but

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Speaker 1: you're hunting, and it's the best hunting there is, and

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Speaker 1: there's you can kill them as many deer as you please, basically,

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Speaker 1: and there's all day long and there's deer everywhere. So

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Speaker 1: it's well, I sit around when there's an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: you had the shoot shoot a buck. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: you can literally be stalking deer the entire day if

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Speaker 1: you want to be. Yeah, if you want to be,

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Speaker 1: if you can, if you can manage it. Now, we

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Speaker 1: or a lot of what we have done is walk

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Speaker 1: around and scare things. Yeah, I mean I think how

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Speaker 1: many deer were killed on this trip save like what

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Speaker 1: might happen today or tomorrow. M I think we dropped

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Speaker 1: off nineteen at the butcher. Yeah, we'll call it. We'll

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Speaker 1: call it an even twenty. And there was a bunch

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Speaker 1: of hunters. But I mean with with a bow, you know,

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Speaker 1: most hunts you go and it's like if you kill

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Speaker 1: one thing, you know, save a turkey hunt or something

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Speaker 1: like that. But big game animals, if you kill one thing,

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Speaker 1: one animal on a trip, one buck, that's the whole

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Speaker 1: point of it. Yeah, But here it's like one buck

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Speaker 1: a day would be maybe the goal, which is a

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Speaker 1: So tell just Sam, tell everybody who was on the trip.

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Speaker 1: So it was myself, ye, Ben O'Brien, Uh, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: host of the show, Cameron Haynes, Joe Rogan, John Dudley.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to go in depth of who

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Speaker 1: all right, Uh, give it a little color. Yeah. Cameron Haynes,

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Speaker 1: he some people might know him from running long distances

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Speaker 1: fairly tiny social media presence in the hunting industry. Hasn't

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Speaker 1: done much on social media, Like, no, we keep trying

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Speaker 1: Cam Haynes, Cam Haynes, we got John Dudley or knock

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Speaker 1: Then we have Remy Warren, who is a guide all

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Speaker 1: Adam green Tree was on this trip. He was here

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Speaker 1: man among like he just is the guy who can

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Speaker 1: that because anything he does, he builds his own cabins,

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Speaker 1: anything that he wants to do. Yeah, anything he wants

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Speaker 1: to be good at he's good at it. It's one

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Speaker 1: at all, not change, no way to hate him. He's

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Speaker 1: the greatest um Joe Rogan Joe Joe. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: not know. He's got a small time podcast. Where has

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Speaker 1: he talks? I think about fighting or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I've asked him a lot of questions about his time

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Speaker 1: on Fear Factor. I just keep saying I smoke Rox

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogue, and he doesn't. He never laughs. But the

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Speaker 1: that all day. And then we had Shane Dorian. Dorian,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know who Shane Dory is, just YouTube

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Speaker 1: Shane Dory and Jaws. Oh yeah, like just surfing Jaws.

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Speaker 1: It's and when you're hanging out in Shane, it's such

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Speaker 1: an unassuming dude. When you're hanging out with him, you're thinking,

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Speaker 1: That's everybody. John's wife, Dudley was here. She's lovely. She's

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Speaker 1: going to be. Lani recap um Two years ago, Remy,

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Speaker 1: it's a great place. I mean it's We were hunting

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Speaker 1: access here as a whole, the population as a whole,

426
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: not just I gotta go kill one buck. You're thinking,

427
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: I gotta shoot a nice buck. Some call deer a

428
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: couple of dose. If there's a sick deer, I'll take

429
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: that out. Like it really is holistic and the way

430
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: you think about the deer as opposed to Oh, I've

431
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: got to shoot a thirty buck and then go home.

432
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: So it does change. Is there any other places like that?

433
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: I can't even think of any places like that that

434
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: I've ever hunted. I've certainly never been anywhere anywhere like this.

435
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: The amount of deer, the amount of deer they'll let

436
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: you shoot. I mean, I think there's a lot of

437
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: places where animals need to be called course, but New

438
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: Zealand comes to mind. Is a similar kind of attitude

439
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: towards towards game. But it's just a different environment. There's

440
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: not as many of the animals plugged into it to

441
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: those places, right, So I think that's why this makes

442
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: it unique. And um, do your access to your roar?

443
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: Do the roar? So it's a it's a variation of

444
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: the bark. It's not nearly as harsh some mail. It's

445
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: a mail, but it's like, now we're gonna go into

446
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: the mail. Access to here. This is the male act.

447
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: Feel like Jim Carey in a Spinua when he's like,

448
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: now the mating call of a yack yack, this is

449
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: the now the mating call. So this is, yeah, an

450
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: access to roar sounds something like this. It's ah, it's

451
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: kind of shrill, but hey and and seen. So for

452
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: all of you listening, you're welcome. Yeah, I've been practicing

453
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: all week. Pull over your car. We're gonna do it again.

454
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: So that's uh the same. Actually tried that last night

455
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: to no avail. The problem is I got a little

456
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: bit nerve us, and so it didn't sound nearly as

457
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: like calm stage friend. So it's okay to do around us,

458
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: but not around actual deer. I had a little, you know,

459
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: I got a little too much growl into it, and

460
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden that all I heard was

461
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: stuff running through the bushes, and I thought stuff was

462
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: like running in No. I just scared that you thought

463
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: you were roar brought in a deer you never know alive. Yes,

464
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: I thought I was that good for So those are

465
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: the sounds. That's the deer. I mean, the deer brings

466
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: a lot to the table. I mean I have more

467
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: respect now this week for access deer and what they

468
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: are and in their place in this landscape. And I

469
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: think a lot of times you think about invasive species

470
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: are non native species, and it's they almost remove a

471
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: little bit of respect from it, you know. But in

472
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: this case, I think Lanai has done a great job

473
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: of just kind of embracing this animal. It doesn't really

474
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: belong here, it's not from here, but they've they've done

475
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: a good job of kind of like accepting it into

476
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 1: their culture and bringing in and in house and like

477
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: the access here is our deer, come hunt um where

478
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: New Zealand is kind of a little bit of the

479
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: little bit of the options. Yeah, they want to eradicate,

480
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: they want to take them all out, you know. I mean,

481
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: if you go to a restaurant or anything here, it's

482
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: access deer is always on the menu. So and that's

483
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: why I think it's just culturally just appropriate the animal.

484
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: If you've got you've got an animal that just is

485
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: non native but is now pervasive place you live, why

486
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: the fund wouldn't you just say keep it? Yeah, let's

487
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: make it part of our thing. We're not gonna get

488
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: rid of it. It's delicious, it's so good. That's the best. Yeah,

489
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean we, you know, moving on on the trip.

490
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Dudley was bombing deer early in the week.

491
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: We showed up. When by we I mean Sam myself,

492
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: the green Trees and uh Willow and el choppo that's

493
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: Spanish with the chopo. We're gonna we're gonna circle back

494
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: to Will. Yeah, we'll get one of the best, probably

495
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: one of the best hunters I've ever met, and a

496
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: mysterious member of this tribe. Not a lot of people

497
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: know Will own a lot of well known hunters here,

498
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: and I think that's been by design on his part. Yeah,

499
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be known. No, he's got a

500
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: lot going on. He tunneled here under the ocean. But yes,

501
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: Will uh oh, and we all landed. I wanted to

502
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: just be here day a day early. Then some of

503
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: the other folks getting in. But anyway, we went out

504
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: that evening. I don't think we killed any deer that evening.

505
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Green tree kill one form now, um, but Adam and

506
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Kimmy were here, John and and Chassy were in one house,

507
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: and then Shane and Will and myself we're in another

508
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: house and Sam and we uh went after it like yeah,

509
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: comes the next day, Rammy Warren comes the next day

510
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: that we had a whole crew of people running around

511
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: the landscape, slanging arrows every which direction. Yeah, I got

512
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: wild in a hurry. Shane broke this, broke the ice

513
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: by shooting a buck. Literally the first first afternoon he

514
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: flies in shoots a buck. And then that day I

515
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: think green Tree killed two bucks. Uh, the next the

516
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: next morning, next morning, I know Remy killed a buck

517
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: his first night out. Yep Um, green Tree kills a

518
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: couple of bucks. The next day, John Dudley keeps indiscriminately,

519
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: just killing yeah, just killing all the deer. And next

520
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: thing you know, we've got like deer on the ground

521
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: and it's day three. And then Cam Haynes and Joe

522
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Uh couldn't make it for all the same days, but

523
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: they rolled in on day three or four. Went, honey,

524
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: we had the Joe the Joe Buck. Just immediately, oh

525
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: that is that's somebody's name, Joe Buck. They got the answer,

526
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: the Joe the Joe Buck. Joe drops his deer. And

527
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: then that night we all got together at one of

528
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: our houses here in town and had a hooting nanny.

529
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: If if anybody watched any of Dudley's Instagram story that night,

530
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: like the food tasted better than it looked it was,

531
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: let's just bring that back. Tell us about tell us

532
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: the story of Bob the Butcher, because you have talked

533
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: to Bob. I haven't I have talked to Bob. Start

534
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: us at the beginning. Tell the story, So Bob the Butcher,

535
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: er noise, I'll make the roar to start the story,

536
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: and then I'll end it with a roar with a bark.

537
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna do that. So Bob the Butcher, Our,

538
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: how it's great. The house we rented is like see

539
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: it like about sixty yards away is Bob the Butcher.

540
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: So Bob was born and raised in Hawaii. I don't

541
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: believe on Lena, but he has lived on Lanai for

542
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: quite a while now and he tells everybody's like, I'm

543
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: hungry person. So I knew I needed to get better

544
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: at cooking and cleaning game. And so he just has

545
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: taken it to the next level. And so he's a

546
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: in the name, clearly a butcher. But you can bring

547
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: your dear to him. He hangs it, skins it, lets

548
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: it cool for a second, and then starts breaking it down.

549
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: And the cuts that he does, I mean he does

550
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: a the rib roast is the most amazing thing to me.

551
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: So it's you've got the backstraps, the run all the

552
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: way down the deer and then he keeps the ribs

553
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: attached to that part, basically short ribs that yeah, short ribs,

554
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: cuts them off and you have like a frenched out.

555
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you would call that at

556
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: this point because we don't do it's not a predominant thing,

557
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: and you don't see it very often. You see it's

558
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: some it's starting to be some people are starting to do.

559
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of extra effort. Yeah, for what I

560
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: would say is a better result, but it's just something

561
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: new that I've never seen. And you get eat backstrap

562
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: on the bone, which you never you don't do, just

563
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: don't do. So if he does that cut and then

564
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: it's you know, shoulders and hams and everything, and it's

565
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: all hung up and he lets it age for a

566
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: bit and cools it and then he vacuum steals everything

567
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: and if you want, you can do like Kobe style beef,

568
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: ground beef like brown venison and make burgers that we

569
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: had that. I mean, everything that he does is taking

570
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: one step further than most people are going to go through.

571
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: You know, do we have the Bob the Butcher paper? Hey, will,

572
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: can you bring over Bob the Butcher? Now, Bob the

573
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: Butcher has a great logo. Will's holding up the T

574
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: shirt just says, just gut it. I'm not funking with you.

575
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: It says, just hold that up again. So and it's

576
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: got like a blood streak in the middle. In the middle.

577
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: Gotcher is the best. Bob the Butcher, Lani, Hawaii. If

578
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: you want to call him. His numbers eight oh eight

579
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: five six five two. Now, if you're listening to this,

580
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: call Bob and just say, just give him a shout out.

581
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: But like, hey, Bob, just heard on the podcast. You're

582
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: a badass. Keep keep it up. So the other thing

583
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: he does so well, can you get it? It's over here,

584
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: I think, on the table. So he goes through this

585
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: full process of cutting all your meat, like into these

586
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: amazing cuts, and then he prepares your hide, he prepares

587
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: the head, and then he calls your taxidermist to ask

588
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: what the way that they like the cape and everything

589
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: ready for them, and so like he you know, he's

590
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: called tax roomers all over the world. But it's just

591
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: it's everything that he does is that next level, like

592
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: just taking care of your meat and animal? Yeah, I

593
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: mean this guy and he gives you a little print outs. Yeah,

594
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: and he's been bringing over snacks for us. I mean yesterday,

595
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I was sitting over there. I was shooting photos of

596
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: of in the butcher's shop and what they were up to,

597
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he came out with venice

598
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: and meat loaf and avocado and rice, and I would

599
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: move in look with all the deer we shot. We

600
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: were talking about we're probably gonna be building him a

601
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: new Yeah, when the invoice comes, he's gonna build a

602
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: new wing on Bob the butcher shop. But Bob has

603
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: been doing this for a while. But he, uh, he

604
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: used to live. He was telling me he lived on

605
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: him and his wife to combine, lived on twenty hundred

606
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: bucks a year. And so they go either catch or

607
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: kill all their food. And then they were doing like

608
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: a few they were cleaning some animals at the same time.

609
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: He was a guide right before the Pineapple Brothers could

610
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: have had this operation. He was a guy. But here's

611
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: like he gives I'm gonna read all this. It'll be

612
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: super boring for some people, but I'm just gonna read

613
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: it all because I think it. He just gives you

614
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: a print out, says Bob. The butcher cooking method for

615
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: each cut there's like a team cuts on tender loins,

616
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: pans s here medium high heat, best served rare to

617
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: medium rare. Of course, rip rack pants here on medium

618
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: high heat, finish an oven best served rare, medium rare.

619
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: Gets you to go down and like everyone, what about

620
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: neck roast? Oh yeah, neck roast braised with liquid, low

621
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: and slow until tender sirloin tip ground or braised with

622
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: liquid or stewed. I mean, it's just this goes on

623
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: and on. It'll just much of the same. But I mean,

624
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: he just he's got to dial in. And not only

625
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: is it just a great personality, but he adds so

626
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: much to a trip like this that you have that

627
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to not only eat some of the best venison

628
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: on the planet, but to have it prepared by somebody

629
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: who is truly a craftsman. It's truly cares and understands

630
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: not only the animal but the muscle groups and how

631
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: to cut it and present it and wrap it and

632
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: vacuum seal it and label it and ship it. I mean,

633
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: it is it is pretty astounding. I think one of

634
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: my favorite things about Bob is he'll tell you exactly

635
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: what you did wrong when field dressing your animal. Yeah, yeah,

636
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: he's got Yeah, he's got it pretty he's got he's

637
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: got the guides at Pineapple, Rolla's trained pretty well as

638
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: to what to do. But no, and then yeah, it's

639
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: it's amazing because last year we didn't use him and

640
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: we you know, we trimmed up all the meat and

641
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: everything ourselves. But it's just you know, so we went

642
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: home with it was like Ben O'Brien the butcher, not right,

643
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: the same level of detail as Bob the Butcher, b

644
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: o b. Yeah, I just like stick knife in it.

645
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Pet there's no bone, there's a trunk off of their

646
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: what part of the deer is. Yeah. Last year we

647
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: had like a condo on a golf course and we

648
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: just the kitchen looked like that's why we didn't get

649
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: invited back. Yeah, we did not get invited back to

650
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: the condo because I tried my best to clean that up,

651
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: but it was it was you just can't put six

652
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: acts here to freeze that a gondo they expect things

653
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: to go well. Yeah, we didn't have any baking soda.

654
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: We just to clean it. It just does not good

655
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: for anybody. But hey, it's it's all about getting better.

656
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: That's what life, life's about. But yeah, Bob the Butcher

657
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: was a highlight of the trip. And if you come

658
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: to one Eye and you kill a deer, do not

659
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: do anything with it other than take it to Bapa Butcher,

660
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: because it just it just takes he So we're taking

661
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: all our meat home and in eight or nine giant

662
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: yettie hoppers, and it's all vacuum sealed already. Is it

663
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: all frozen? Most of it's hard frozen. Most of it's

664
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: hard frozen, so we don't really need the coolers, which

665
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, sorry Eddie, but but it doesn't hurt. It'll

666
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: keep them frozen. Fenya kise you get lost on the airline.

667
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: But it's just you know, it's just next level stuff.

668
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: And then when you come here that's you. Maybe you

669
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: shoot a buck early and you showed a big buck, Sam,

670
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: but then you can start thinking about just the meat

671
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: piece of it. How much meat am I gonna have home?

672
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: And then it really is something different to share with

673
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: your family and friends. And you know, back to our

674
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: little event there the other night with Dudley cooking, I

675
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: mean he cooked tenderloin with balsamic reduction, and there was

676
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: other stuff like rosemary and go, I don't know what

677
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: it was, but we'd have to have a lot going on.

678
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: But when he did those tomahawk chops, tomahawk chops, I mean,

679
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: it was melting your mouth unbelievable. And he did he

680
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: he cooked it first on the trigger and then and

681
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: then cut it and then he seared both sides that

682
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: and then went hand it to you. Oh, it was

683
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: like they melted and the burgers out of that prime

684
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: like that prime's like hallapenos and bacon and cheese, get

685
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: out of my life. Unbelievable. But that was one There's

686
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: certain points I think in trips like this, and you know,

687
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Suffice say, Sam knows, and I know, and everybody knows,

688
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: like we're lucky to not only have these experiences, you know,

689
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: with the the animal and the place and the people

690
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: that are here, but just to call this in some

691
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: way of profession is unbelievable. And there's moments where you know,

692
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: you gotta stop and look at the big picture, Like

693
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: a couple of times this week I did. And one

694
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: of the times, as I was sitting at a table

695
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: with Joe Rogan and Cam Haines and Remy Warren and

696
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: just laughing and eating the best meat in the world,

697
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking, I'm not sure I can improve

698
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: upon this any Like we may have peaked too early

699
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: and only thirty two, Like where do you go? Where

700
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: do I go from here? But I think that's that's

701
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: the feeling that I got from from that one night. Now,

702
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: we were also spread out in this trip and people

703
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: were coming to go and everybody's so intent and enjoying

704
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: hunting that you don't ever really get to stop and

705
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: kind of be together like that. Yeah. Um, but we

706
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: were that night and it was awesome. Yea, And it

707
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: was great. I think we did a couple of things

708
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: this trip that really made it. It It was the dinner

709
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: with everybody, and then we actually stopped for a minute

710
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: to take a group photo. Yeah. I caught a lot

711
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: of flak for that, Yeah, but I hadn't made them

712
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: all do it. Yeah, but it was so worth it, Yeah,

713
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: because it's always one of those shots like it's you know,

714
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: like that used to be the shot that was the

715
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: photo you get you get whatever, you know, a trophy photo,

716
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: a gripping grand from whatever you shot, and then a

717
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: group photo of who you were with, And those were

718
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: like the two photos you came home with from a

719
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: hunting trip. Yeah. No, If I would to put together

720
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: like group shots of Hans I've been on in the

721
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: last couple of years, I would. It might made me cry. Yeah, Like,

722
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: it's that intense for me. You know, I find even

723
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: with the podcast, man like engaging with people that I

724
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: care about, what I care about that I like a

725
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: lot and respect a lot is like a drug to me.

726
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes even hunting alone and I'm like, this is really great,

727
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: But I'm a talker and a bullshitter and I'd much

728
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: rather be I'd much rather be doing that. That's probably

729
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: a detriment to my like solo hunting career, but probably

730
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: never get invite on solo hunter for that reason. But

731
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: shut up. But I that just that stuff just me.

732
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: It's like a fucking high for me. Well, I love it.

733
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I think Remy said it best, like he posted that

734
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: group shot today and in his caption you know of

735
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: what of what? Yeah, those are perfect. Will we'll talk

736
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: about El Choppo. We're gonna close the show with the

737
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: l Choppo stories. But El Choppo has found what looks

738
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: to be the tiniest binoculars ever and he's now he's

739
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: drinking champagne. It's like ten thirty in the a m.

740
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: He's drinking the champagne. No, but what I was saying

741
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: is I think Remy said it said it right, was

742
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: you have a group of people who are you know

743
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: some it's like some of the best hunters in the

744
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: industry and have made a name for themselves. And let

745
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: me say, let me stop you there out like I

746
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: wanted you to do. When we say best hunters in industry,

747
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: I've been around a lot of them. You've been around

748
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: a lot of them. People that make their money on

749
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: saying I'm a good hunter, or make their money on

750
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: being hunters or in the community. These are the best ones,

751
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: Like they are the best ones. We've seen it over

752
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: the last couple of days. Yeah, it's it's amazing to

753
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: watch them in the field and do what they do.

754
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: It's it's Tiger Woods hitting golf ball, Remy Warren, Adam

755
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: green Tree, like John Dudley, that's Tiger Woods in the

756
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: golf ball. Like they do things produce results that just

757
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: people don't do. And so Cam in the same way.

758
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: Cam Haynes dropped the eighties six year bomb on the

759
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: buck last night. Mom still problem. He didn't probably Mom

760
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: City like I did Loser, But I mean Remy, I

761
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: think Remy said it best when he, like all of us,

762
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: anybody involved, came from very different background, but we're all

763
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: together because we all love the act like hunting itself,

764
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: and that's why we're all here. Yeah. No, And I

765
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: think that just goes back to it's hard to parse out,

766
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: like the personality you see you on the internet. I

767
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: think that I'm glad why a lot of people have

768
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: podcasts nowadays, because you can just really hear them talk

769
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: and they have them in your ears and understand who

770
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: they are. Um. But being around somebody in those intense

771
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: situations and it's it shows you really everybody bonds together

772
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: on the same types of feelings you kind of. I mean,

773
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm from the East Coast. I'm I hunted as a

774
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: kid of a writer. I work at a cooler company

775
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: like you got you know, a legendary bow hunter from Oregon.

776
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: You have a fucking celebrity podcast actor, you know, commentator

777
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: from from Boston by way of California. Uh, I mean

778
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: you have a guy that lives in a busy You

779
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: have a pro surfer. Yeah, I mean you have a

780
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: guy out a Nevada who is a hunting guide you have?

781
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: You know so much from Australia, who's you know, a

782
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, pretty foreign to the up to

783
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: our community, you know, but now it's pretty pretty dialed

784
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: in and close. So those things all come together and um,

785
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of ways. I mean, you could

786
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe if they were all in the room right now,

787
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: but to capture the energy of that that evening that night.

788
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: Of course, everybody has got their phones out there in

789
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: their stories. I think that might take away from it

790
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, but that's everybody's jobs, and everybody just

791
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: wants to share that energy with people and hopefully people

792
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: who followed along on whatever who's ever social. We tried

793
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody was updating, so it seemed as

794
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: frantic as it actually was real time. But um, hopefully

795
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: you felt some of that energy, um, and some of

796
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: the passion that these people have for for this thing

797
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: and that regardless of success or failure or whatever, because

798
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: those things are nebulous. They happen like you succeed, you fail,

799
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: you succeeds, you fail, you sees you fail. And you know,

800
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: guys like Remy and green Tree, you have found formulas

801
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: whereas they succeed more than other people. But I think, um,

802
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: hopefully that stuff comes through. And I would say, just

803
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: as a way of of addressing anyone who would qualify

804
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: as a hater, that I'm I try. I would be

805
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: objective in this situation and then say that these are

806
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: good people, like these are people that you know, whatever

807
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: you don't. You may not agree with what they might

808
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: post or what they might say, or a stance on

809
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: this or a way they present themselves on the internet,

810
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: like really getting to know these people. They're good, Yeah

811
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: they're good. Yeah they're not all perfect, but they're not.

812
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: None of us are. So I will get off my soapbox.

813
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's I feel like in a

814
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: bunch of people, notable people get together like that. Sometimes

815
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: it can seem, you know, on the surface, it seems

816
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: a surface, but yeah, but being here and it's just

817
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 1: a different feeling. I think, does any of that make sense? Same?

818
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: I think in your ramp rambling, I think you got

819
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: the point across good. I was gonna pull a line

820
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: from Billy Billy Madison. Nowhere, rambling, did you make any

821
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: sense whatsoever? We are all now dumber because of it

822
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: may God you are awarded zero points. Oh, may God

823
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: have mercy on your soul. The anyway, Yeah, that I

824
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that's I think that was important

825
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: to Yeah, And I think because it could seem like

826
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: it's a you know, some sort of a PR stunt

827
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, but it's it was really just a group

828
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: of people that wanted to get together hunt together well,

829
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: and you could do a lot of times people do

830
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: films and everybody on this trip out a podcast. All

831
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: of us that podcasts and all of us have those things. What. Um,

832
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: what I was happy to do with something like this

833
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: is just see people throwing their stuff out to the

834
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: world as they wanted to, without having to have a

835
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: cameraman behind them or force somebody to do a podcast

836
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: or um. Because I think being together and being excited

837
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: and comes out. Man, it just comes out and people naturally. Um.

838
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: So sorry for everybody that wanted there to be a film,

839
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: but I just don't. I feel like that's it's also

840
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: edited and so contrived that if you followed along you

841
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: got it. Hopefully you got it because it was pretty

842
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: It would be I mean it would it wouldn't be impossible,

843
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: but it would be hard to pull off like a

844
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: film like with without having a camera for each person,

845
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: and then it just it just changes the dynamic, it

846
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: really does, and something like this. But that was the

847
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean we ended up. You know, we had that dinner.

848
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: It was it was fantastic. And then the next and

849
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: we got after it. I mean Cam killed a buck

850
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: last night, our boil Chopo killed a buck last night.

851
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Everybody on the hunt killed one except for me. Uh,

852
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: Sammy killed one. Samy killed a giant thirty two insure

853
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: and the Sam flat in the Sam flash he kills

854
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: a buck there every year, just nonchalantly walks over there

855
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: and wax a giant and go um got a lot

856
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: of cool content and just laughed. All right, yeah, a

857
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: lot of it's not for air. Can't be for air.

858
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: But you know, and in a way of a recap,

859
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: that's what it was. I mean, it wasn't a deer count.

860
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: We never came back and like compared Antler side his work,

861
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: talked about who killed what it was, just like tell

862
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: me about your stock and tell me about this. I

863
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: mean Cam and Joe or no, Cam and Joe, Um,

864
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: Joe and Dud had a deal the other night where

865
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: they were crawling up on a buck and they made

866
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: the final stock. And for some reason, Dudley had wanted

867
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: to shoot a deer that was having sex with another deer.

868
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: So I think that was actually green Tree that wanted tree.

869
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: But Dudley has been in on two of those now,

870
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: so you know, access to your spasmodic. They shed and

871
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: and and rut in different times of the year, so

872
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: you'll see all forms of like gestation, like tiny little fawns,

873
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, six month old fawns, rutting, fighting, velvet stripping,

874
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: all at the same time. And so Dudley had seen

875
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: a couple of bucks breeding. Does I don't think he

876
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: shot any of them that were No we got in

877
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: on him, but Joe and and he got on with

878
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: Joe yesterday they were finishing off the stock and a

879
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: feral cat as this buck was breeding a dough. Feral

880
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: cat ran between the legs of the sex couple and

881
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: they lay ran away. They were thirty yards from a

882
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: buck that was mounted on a dough and a cat

883
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: messed up. I think, I mean, honestly, it was revenge

884
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: of the cat Lady. Yeah, the cat lady. Going back

885
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: to last year, John Dudley invented a drink is a

886
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: terrible alcohol off. Let's we should probably have some sort

887
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: of intervention, but he's fun, so we let it happen. Ah.

888
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: He put you can have to walk with tequila, tequila,

889
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: red wine, and red bull into a cup. Ye, and

890
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: then drank it and he named it the cat And

891
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: he named it the Cat Lady, probably based on the

892
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: fact that no one would ever talk to him again

893
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: after he drank it. Uh. That so that became people

894
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: started making those and linking up after last year, um

895
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: as well as Uh, Joe and Dudley got into a

896
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: drunken fight about Wesley Walls the Fighter, whether or not

897
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: he had actually fought Tank Abbott. That's something. I mean,

898
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: it was like a half hour conversation. So then people

899
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: started doing like Wesley Walls Instagram account strolling this ship

900
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: out of everybody, which was fantastic. Thanks for those guys

901
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: who did that. Um, but we've had some We've had

902
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: some cool stuff happened on this trip. I mean everybody's

903
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: been in on countless stocks. Oh yeah, you know, seeing

904
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: countless deer. Yeah, it's just I mean, can you imagine.

905
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: So I was thinking about it while we were talking

906
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, there's so many deer, and we

907
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: shot a lot of deer this week, but could you

908
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: imagine if the population density was, you know, like a

909
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: normal place trying to sneak in like if you know, like, okay,

910
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: there's thirty deer that live in that pat you know

911
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: that one big flat or whatever, like trying to do

912
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: like a single stock on a buck and then feel

913
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: so terrible. Yeah, like the success rate would not be

914
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: even close. No yeah, no, um no, it wouldn't be.

915
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: And that's just what makes this different. You can go out.

916
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: Shane Dorian is pretty famous for being just like give

917
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, I'll see you

918
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: in three days, and he just crawls on his belly

919
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: until a deer is close enough. It takes eight hours, fine,

920
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: if it takes sixteen, no big problems there. And last year, Shane,

921
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't kill anything for three days and

922
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: then he killed in the evening of the fourth day,

923
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: and then two on the last day. But it was

924
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: and then this year he just came out swinging, swinging,

925
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: just drop big bucks like it was his job. So yeah,

926
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean I think those things, those things happen you know,

927
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: people get I have good days, bad days and whatever.

928
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: But you know, the big part for me was trying

929
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: to realize, like some days I didn't even think about

930
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: the big picture where I was, who I was with.

931
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: It was logistics in the morning, it was stalking deer

932
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: all day. It was getting people picked up, it was

933
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: getting dinner for the evening, and then it was going

934
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: to sleep. And if you could make it through that

935
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: without without crashing, it was a good day. Maybe get

936
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: a deer, whatever's fine. But there's moments where you have

937
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: to stop and be like, wait a minute, um, I

938
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: just what you know? You're in Hawaii? Yeah, I mean

939
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: yesterday Ramy and I were tracking a buck that he

940
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: hit and killed, and him and I just kind of

941
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: paused a little bit, and there was we were by

942
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: the coast and could see out in the ocean. It

943
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: could see MAUI crossed the way and I just sat

944
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: down on the hill and was looked out there like wow, Like,

945
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 1: if I waste the rest of this day, I paste.

946
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: But if I use the rest of this day to

947
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: think about killing deer, I've wasted some minutes of it.

948
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: Because what's really important. But then you think, you know,

949
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: what really makes you a successful hunter if you don't

950
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: give a shit about anything else but killing deer. Right,

951
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: that's probably why I've killed zero and Remmy killed five

952
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: and it's gone and left. So it just goes to

953
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: show you. I mean, there's a lot of people that

954
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: claim to be really good at hunting or present themselves

955
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: in such a way, but um, no, no one that

956
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: I know, very few that I know, could do what

957
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: Remy did, or do what Adam did, or do what

958
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: Shane did. Very few in a short period of time,

959
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: in a short period time, very few, Dudley camp same.

960
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just let a bunch of savages loose

961
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: in giant heard deer. Let's see what happens, see what

962
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: happened next. And that brings me to the story of

963
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: El Chapo. Where do we begin? There's nowhere, Like there's

964
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: a lot of mystery. I don't even know where El

965
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: Chappo is from. I work with him, like he's from Houston,

966
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe somewhere in the suburbs of Houston, north of Galveston,

967
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: south of fun who cares you know? And he's just

968
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: El Choppa. Now. El Chapo is a ripe old twenty

969
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: six years of age. Ah, he's a native Texan and

970
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: a bit. He's kind of like my consiliary. He's like

971
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: the Robert de vall to my godfather. Well's what was

972
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: his character whatever, he's I'm Marlon Brando and he is

973
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm actually not Marlon Brando, but he's definitely Robert Duval

974
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: and he takes care of lot. He just takes care

975
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: of ye and laughs at all the dumb ship that

976
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: I do in appropriate times. And um, before he worked

977
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: at Yetti, I don't know what he did, but he

978
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: may have, you know. I think he's saying he went

979
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: to college. I don't believe that. No. I think he

980
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: may have been like a drug runner on the coast

981
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: or something. He was running. He had owned. Yeah, he

982
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: was the top guy at some big ring of right

983
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: and then now we did he worked in shipping, shipping. Yes,

984
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: he flew a plane. He did tourism. Now, if you

985
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: look at the photo of all of us from this trip,

986
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: the one that Remy posted in a camp posted everybody posted,

987
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: there's one man there that you might not shrouded in mystery,

988
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: and it's El Choppo. That's El Chapo, and there's no

989
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: you don't need to hold know a whole lot of els.

990
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: And the reason we call him El Choppo is as

991
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: mysterious as El Choppo himself because nobody knows. I mean,

992
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: he looks like a young and he's got a ponytail.

993
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: He's got a flowing black mane of hair, kind of

994
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: like an Arabian horse or something like that. That's what

995
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: it is. He's he's kind of got the hair like

996
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: who is the guy who played for the Steelers? Oh,

997
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: Troy Polama. He's kind of got a Troy polamla to

998
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: do and a beard, patchy beard, and uh, you know

999
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: he's a stout fellow. But he's there in the picture

1000
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,479
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people were wondering who

1001
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: is this person and why? Yeah, and at that point

1002
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: of the group picture, he had not he had not killed.

1003
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: Now l Chopo's you know, it's a fair you know,

1004
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: he's got shipped together, like he knows what he's doing now.

1005
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: And he hunted a lot with me this week we

1006
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 1: had married failures. Ah, he was probably following me around

1007
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: going what the fuck he's this guy did? But finally,

1008
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: like a day and a half ago, we let El

1009
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: Choppo loose on his own to go Ferrell and just

1010
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: get it done. Like he just became part of the landscape.

1011
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: And now he's gone forever to the island of I

1012
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: thought maybe we'd never see him again, live under a

1013
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: lantana bush for the next three years. But two days

1014
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: ago El Choppo kind of started going on his own,

1015
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: stalking up deer and he would just be I don't

1016
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: know that El chop is a big fan of the

1017
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: belly crawl because it seems like it's a lot of work.

1018
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: She's more of a crouchwalker, you know. That led to

1019
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: a lot of spookings, I believe, but eventually a lot

1020
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: of yeah, a lot of that, not a lot of roars,

1021
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: a lot of spooks. But eventually he got it, got

1022
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: on it, and yesterday we were leaving for the evening hunt.

1023
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: Sam and I were going to hunt together, whereas I

1024
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: would shoot at all the dose and they would duck

1025
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: the arrows. But El Chapo was going by himself and

1026
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: he had perfected He had his system die. He had

1027
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: perfected the El Chopo dear killing system, which goes something

1028
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: like this. He's had about seven grand where the sick

1029
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: clothes on. Yep, he had sitka pants in the new

1030
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: Subalpine newer subalpine. There were the Apex pants I believe,

1031
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: or the Ascent. He had a cent shirt on and

1032
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: uh an undergarment of Sitka as well synthetic undergarment from

1033
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: the Ascent line. He was wearing a Sitca hat and

1034
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: his his mane of hair was flowing from beneath it,

1035
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: and he was and he had the sidekick had the

1036
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: YETI sidekick dry as wearing as a Fannie pack to

1037
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: keep all his sundry items in there. And and finally,

1038
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: and finally, he was wearing a pair of like dad's

1039
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: socks that he clearly got it call his dad got

1040
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: it cols in like the with the real aggressive threads

1041
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: on the fucking leg part. And he he was wearing those.

1042
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: I think he had his Sitkam pants tucked into those,

1043
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: and they were just jet white. And he was going

1044
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: to hunt like that because but you were too loud.

1045
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,959
Speaker 1: He didn't even bring his shoes, he said, it didn't

1046
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: even bring him. He was the last day and a half.

1047
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: I've done his tie my shoes in my belt. I

1048
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: don't need him. He walked out of the house. He

1049
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: walked out of the house with a beer in one hand.

1050
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: A bow and the bow and the other and his

1051
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: sicka pants tucked into his white tubes, white tube socks.

1052
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: And that is definitely that is a memory that will

1053
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: be in flow. There was just like crazy loose hairs

1054
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: sticking out of this hat, just go in every direction.

1055
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: And he just didn't give a ship. You know how

1056
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: you've been hunting for five days and not killed something,

1057
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 1: and you give zero fox now and we'll just reach

1058
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: that point the best of us. We got out there.

1059
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't have my phone. I'll see you

1060
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: at the road and just disappeared, just just disappearing tanical garden.

1061
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: It's never to be seen. And then we tried to

1062
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: find him on the road. We went hunting and failed.

1063
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: I failed, and uh I went back to find him

1064
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: on the road and he was gone. He was not there,

1065
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: and we were a bit worried. We thought maybe he

1066
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: had ah taken up the herd, gone north. But then

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01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: we got a text from someone else's phone, from John

1068
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,959
Speaker 1: Dudley's phone and said, hey, it's Will I killed a buck.

1069
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: I am I'm with the guys. And then we knew

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: that El Chapos rain had begun and he shoots this

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01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: buck at like thirty yards and that was five days

1072
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: of effort all culminated. And that wasn't the end of it.

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01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: He then shoulder slings it. So let's talk about what

1074
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: was it? Called it duffle button. Duffle button yeah aa,

1075
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: green Tree lots to do something called duffle button. Yeah.

1076
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: So you cut the hole in the back legs where

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01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: you would hang it, and then in the front legs

1078
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: you cut him at the joint and then you peel

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01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: the tendin back a little bit, and then you can

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01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: slide part of the front leg through the hole in

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01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: the back leg and now you've got a basically put

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01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: it on like a backpack. So I had explained this

1083
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: very briefly, not in depth at all, to El Choppo

1084
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: in the morning after green Tree had done it, and

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: the chop was he was intrigued, ye, and he decided

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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: to try it. It did not go well. It ended

1087
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: up he just threw the deer over his shoulder and

1088
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: walked like a mile in his white sox just to

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01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: the road. Can you imagine he got there and Alec,

1090
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: the guy goes, why didn't you just leave it there?

1091
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: I could have driven to it, and his Fannie, his

1092
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: yetty sidekick Fanny Pack was covered in blood, just covered. Yeah,

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01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: he was just I mean, can you imagine that. It

1094
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: was like a scene from like black Hawk Down or something.

1095
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: He was carrying out one of his comrades but apparently

1096
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: shots his deer three yards and just dropped in his tracks.

1097
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: Probably because it's all his thick look in his eyes.

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01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: I just can't go any further. Oh that's perfect. But

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01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's all chopo for you. I mean

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01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: he's he's an animal, yep, animal, And I mean he

1101
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: has a lady friend and so unfortunately unfortunately's not single.

1102
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: But if he was, hopefully this would rev the engine

1103
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: on that. So that's that's that's the chop for you.

1104
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: And that and he's gonna bring home meat to his

1105
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: family just just based on his whole hopper full of

1106
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: deer meat. Yeah, it's based on his giving zero fox yesterday.

1107
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: I just got it done. And that least that brings

1108
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: me to me. Now I am a hunter sorts. I've

1109
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: been doing it for a couple of decades there a while.

1110
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: While I other people have killed half a dozen deer

1111
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: during this trip, I have killed zero. Dear. I've had

1112
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: some rough luck this week. Man. Now, just cut it

1113
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: to me straight, Sam, just bring it to bring the

1114
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: real story. Am I terrible? No? No, you has has

1115
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: go wrong? But have I been just not on my game?

1116
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: Do you feel? I don't know, it could be it.

1117
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: Maybe you weren't mentally sink it's true, it's what do

1118
01:05:54,760 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: you think? El Choppa says, I should just let loose.

1119
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: He said, put you take your shoes off, let the

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01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: juice loose, drinking on the Pacific co and get back

1121
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: out there. Let's juice loose. Now we do have the

1122
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: rest of today, so maybe maybe I'll get one, but

1123
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: then you can add that in in the the final

1124
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: for the final, like Happitus. I got one. But I've

1125
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: had like deer, I've had multiple bucks, probably five bucks

1126
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: that I wanted to shoot within twenty yards, and each

1127
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: time that one was bedded and it crawled around a bush.

1128
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: One was bed and all I had to do was

1129
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: stand up and walk one step any of three directions

1130
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: that it would have died, and it walked straight away

1131
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: from me, covered up from bush. I had won this morning,

1132
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: come out of fort or five yards. My range finder

1133
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 1: wouldn't work. I had one the other morning. First morning,

1134
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: you had like fifteen yards that was just behind the bush. Yeah,

1135
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: I had one in fifteen yards. I could see it.

1136
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's antlers are behind the thick bush I had.

1137
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: I had dear forty yards and had a little fawn

1138
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: hop up for like three ft in front of me

1139
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: and give me the this noise that one ah, and

1140
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: we we were making jokes. It might not be funny

1141
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: to the listeners, but it's funny to me. So they're

1142
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: fucking gonna hear it. Let's deal with it. So this dough,

1143
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm stalking up these deer and this dode literally is

1144
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: feet away from me, and I'm crawling on my belly

1145
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: trying to get to this velvet buck, and this little

1146
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: fawn hops up and barks right in my face at

1147
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: three ft. And if anybody's ever seen Jurassic Park, there's

1148
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: a scene where the like the the British professional hunter

1149
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: gets killed by the raptors, and when the female raptor

1150
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: pops up to just take him out, he goes clever Girl.

1151
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: And when that hunts popped up in my head, I

1152
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: just put clever Girl and the hunt was over there

1153
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: and they all ran. And so I've had a mirriad

1154
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: the other day with Remy. Yesterday with Remy in the morning,

1155
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: I was like through ten ft from a bedded deer

1156
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: and I went to draw and tried to get him

1157
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: to stand up, and not only did he not stand up,

1158
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: he crawled. I saw where he did it. He crawled

1159
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: under the bush and put his antlers in the bush

1160
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: and then wrapped around the bush and laid there while

1161
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: I was ten feet away, just holding tight hold. I

1162
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: was making turkey gobbles I was doing, and he just

1163
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: held tight and then he waited and waited and burst

1164
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: out of there like a canon, and he was gone, Yeah,

1165
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not an easy species to go after,

1166
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: which just denotes the level of skill that we've got

1167
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: hanging around here at some level. What else do you

1168
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: want to say about this hunt, Sam, I feel like

1169
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: coming to the tail end of our I mean, there's

1170
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: not much more to say. I mean, it's just last

1171
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: year was a blast, and you never know, like how

1172
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: round two is gonna go, Like it could either be

1173
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: way better or it could be you know, like last

1174
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, last year was all new and

1175
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: fun and exciting, and so it was all this, you know,

1176
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: and then you hype it up too much in your

1177
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: mind and then it turns out like it's not like

1178
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: that again. But it was way better this year, but

1179
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: it was last year even way better, way more fun,

1180
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: way more laughed, way more dear kill. Unbelievable, unbelievable. Yeah, man, yeah,

1181
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: it's it was. It was great. Yeah, it was great.

1182
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: Hopefully you know, the hunting community. I think a lot

1183
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: of people followed along and have, you know, put some

1184
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: attention on our our efforts here this week. And I

1185
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: think what's important is that there's a bunch of people

1186
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: who are trying to represent everyone you know, and have

1187
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: been given a platform to do that. I think that's

1188
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: what's important to me, is that there's ree things. It's

1189
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: the platform, it's the people, and it's the message. Those

1190
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: are the things that are important to me. And reason

1191
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: why we put these hunts together is for that reason,

1192
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 1: because it elevates not only the message, but the people.

1193
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: And they already have the platform, which is social media

1194
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I think that's what's important and hopefully

1195
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: um everyone can think about that they're hunting lives. Man.

1196
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: It's like, think about the people you hunt with, like

1197
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: are they making you better? Are they challenging you to

1198
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: be better? Are they challenging you to do things in

1199
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: a different way or or pushing you to be good? Thoughtful?

1200
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: And you know, like, what's your message to everyone else?

1201
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: If you choose to talk to everyone, you don't have to.

1202
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: You can go hunt and never say a word about it.

1203
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: But and then what plat what's the platform that you

1204
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: want to tell that story? And if you can think

1205
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: in those three ways and nothing, you're doing it right.

1206
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: And I think all the people that we find it

1207
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: with this week have figured that ship out in spades

1208
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: and we're all better for it. I would agree with that, agreed.

1209
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: Yea perfect look up el Chopo. I want you to

1210
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: all follow him. Everybody needs to follow him. He doesn't

1211
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: have a very exciting Instagram. Maybe this triple this will help.

1212
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: But it's mystery, Like the only the only because he

1213
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: didn't have his phone when he shot his deer. The

1214
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: only photo that he has is a screenshot that I

1215
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: took of his deer hanging in Bob the Butcher's shop. Yeah,

1216
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: not only like it adds to the level of mystery. Yeah,

1217
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: did he shoot a dear? It doesn't matter, there's no

1218
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: way to know I mean his Fannie packs covered in blood.

1219
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: That's good evidence. Do we need to give out his

1220
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: his handle? Yeah, we should do it. So it's at

1221
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: will Owe and nine two. His real name his El Choppo,

1222
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: but his fake stage name is will Owe, his pen

1223
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: name if you will. He was born in the year

1224
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, which it makes me young man, a

1225
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: lot of room to a lot of room to grow.

1226
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: But forever will we'll be able to say he was

1227
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: the star of Lanai Part two. It really was. Okay,

1228
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: thank you Samuel, thank you bye. So that's it, episode

1229
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: number thirteen in the books. Thanks for joining. Thanks to

1230
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: Sam for sitting in talking with me, helping to recap

1231
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: what was an epic trip in an epic place. Great people,

1232
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: great meat for the table stories. The last is quite

1233
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: a long time and and hopefully it'll all be encapsulated

1234
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: and a bunch of good content, a bunch of good

1235
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: photos that we're all able to share with you guys.

1236
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: Um if you want to hear see any of the

1237
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: content from the trip, you can check out some of

1238
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: Yetti's Instagram posts or any of the social media of

1239
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: any of the guys that were on the trip. It's

1240
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: should be pretty cool. You should be able to get

1241
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: a good idea of what it was like to be

1242
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: here and hunt this amazing place with these amazing people,

1243
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: and kind of what I would say is is one

1244
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: of the best hunting crews ever assembled, save for myself,

1245
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: because I didn't kill any deer. Unless I do right

1246
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: after I record this, then I'll tell you all about it.

1247
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: But thanks for joining. If you want to go to

1248
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: the Hunting Collective dot com, you can check out particles, videos, podcasts.

1249
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: The other twelve podcast last week was Fred Eikler. Please

1250
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: go listen to that when Fred's a badass, had a

1251
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: good time tricky hunting with him out in Colorado. Didn't

1252
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: do a bunch of advertising on that podcast because I

1253
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: was running quick one and I but it is up.

1254
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: A lot of people have already listened to it commented

1255
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: on it. But please go listen to that podcast with Fred.

1256
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: I love that guy. Other than that, you've got Steve Ronella,

1257
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: You've got John Dudley, You've got all Brief Arcis, Charles Post,

1258
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: Shane Mahoney. There's a bunch of so go check them out.

1259
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: Whether you like bold game cooking from somebody like Jesse Griffith's.

1260
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: Or you want tips and tactics from somebody like Aaron Snyder,

1261
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it there at the honey Collection dot com.

1262
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: So thanks for listening to episode number thirteen. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week. Bye,