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Speaker 1: Florian podcast, John Annik and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 4: Big job there, Cooktufian, Bret Fern.

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Speaker 5: A few things in life, like a pay per view

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Speaker 5: recap week? Am I wrong? All the pleasure on this

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Speaker 5: side of the microphone. Monday June twelfth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: It is episode four fifteen of the Attic and florent podcast,

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Speaker 5: channel and wherever in the world you ingest your podcast.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for being with us. Man, Do

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Speaker 5: we have a lot to get to today? My man

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Speaker 5: can flow back from the atl I'm back from Vancouver

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Speaker 5: after an unnecessarily long travel Sunday. It is Monday morning, right,

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Speaker 5: I'm invading my twin brother's house at like eight thirty

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Speaker 5: this morning to prep the podcast. They all got to

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Speaker 5: be thinking, like, can we get this lunatic out of

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Speaker 5: our square footage. Please, how are you doing on sleep?

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Speaker 5: Do you That's a long that's a long fight. Not great,

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Speaker 5: just riding this Amanda Nunez high though, you know, just

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Speaker 5: riding this Lions high. So PFL was also an action.

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Speaker 5: Of course, we'll get into Hayes, who's pinatoes huge upset

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Speaker 5: of Brendan Locknane. So Impa Kasang and I came and

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Speaker 5: trained at the house after a win. Is that what happened?

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Speaker 4: Well, no, he came by. He came by. You know,

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Speaker 4: we talked about fights and stuff. But you know, there

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Speaker 4: was the UFC pay per view, so he was in town.

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Speaker 4: We were talking, said, hey, if you want to come

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Speaker 4: by watch the fights. He's like, yeah, actually I do

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Speaker 4: want to watch the fight. So he came by and

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Speaker 4: we watched some fights.

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Speaker 5: It was great. Im beloves you buy the way. He's

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Speaker 5: a big fan and he's such a good dude.

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Speaker 4: It was it was great to see him also advance

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Speaker 4: to the playoffs. You know, he was in the Challenger series.

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Speaker 4: He's had three fights in under four months.

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Speaker 5: Dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like it's crazy and it all wins. So and

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Speaker 4: we're going.

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Speaker 5: To get into everything that was UFC two eighty nine.

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Speaker 5: But when you are as impukasangan I was on the

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Speaker 5: wrong end of what I believe is the most spectacular

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Speaker 5: knockout in UFC history by Joaquin Buckley. There's a rebuild

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Speaker 5: that happens, and for better or for worse, it's not

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Speaker 5: happening in the UFC. And perhaps rebuild is the wrong verb,

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Speaker 5: because he's a really good fighter and now I think

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Speaker 5: capable of really gaining financially in this PFL format. He

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Speaker 5: has huge hands. We did talk on the UFC telecaster

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Speaker 5: and I'm bringing it up now because we're talking about

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Speaker 5: these fighter meetings. You don't have small hands, you actually

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Speaker 5: have pretty big hands. Danny Gay has absolutely massive hands,

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Speaker 5: Charles lavera huge hands, Platinum Mike Perry massive hands. And

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Speaker 5: I know power can be the byproduct of a lot

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Speaker 5: for it. It could be technique, it can be speed, it

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Speaker 5: hurt to have myths like impakasangan I and he'll break

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, he's a monster. He's extremely strong. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 4: I do believe there's something to that as far as

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, it was a busy week. I started

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Speaker 5: the week in our native Boston, Massachusetts, filming a new

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Speaker 5: I doing raising Floridians. It just doesn't feel like it

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Speaker 4: Boston in the spring, the summer, and even the fall

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Speaker 5: It's just such a cool vibe.

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Speaker 4: The snow, though, John, that's the thing that kind of

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Speaker 5: I have said repeatedly, I should take my kids to Boston,

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Speaker 5: I talk about Charles Olivera. One of the greatest fighters

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Speaker 5: She approached this fight as if it would be her last,

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Speaker 4: I think there's two motivating factors, right. There's the fact

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Speaker 5: I thought it was about as perfect as it gets.

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Speaker 4: Just phenomenal stuff from Amanda noon Az, who has been

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Speaker 4: She's incredible, Yeah, And it was also about imposing her

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Speaker 5: I don't think she had her best performance now.

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Speaker 4: A lot of that had to do with what Amanda

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Speaker 4: It did feel final. I think that she has had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you're ever going to see aman

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Speaker 4: So, dude, that was such a cool moment man, And

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Speaker 5: Man. That's about as good as it gets. Right there,

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Speaker 5: that she would be ready to go. And I just

434
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Speaker 5: thought she was wide eyed. You know, she's fought Holly Holmes,

435
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Speaker 5: she's been in a lot of big settings, she's main

436
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 5: evented for the UFC anything, you know, whatever people want

437
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 5: to say about your championship losses to BJ Penn and

438
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Speaker 5: Jose Aldo, I don't believe that the moment was too

439
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Speaker 5: big for you. What do you have for me on that.

440
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Speaker 4: That's a big point, man, And I think that there's

441
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 4: been moments like in the Diego Sanchez fight, the finale

442
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 4: the Ultimate Fighter, where the moment was too big for me.

443
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 4: It was very overwhelming, even in some of the wins.

444
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Speaker 4: After that, I was still getting my feet wet and

445
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 4: getting used to being in the octagon, and I think

446
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 4: a championship fight is also extremely different. The whole build

447
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 4: up on fight week, answering all the questions. You start

448
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 4: to build this thing up bigger than it is. You know,

449
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 4: certain things that coaches may say, certain things leading up

450
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Speaker 4: to the fight, certain things on fight night that make

451
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Speaker 4: it a bigger deal. The reality is it's still just

452
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Speaker 4: a fight, but this is the biggest fight of your life,

453
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Speaker 4: and how you manage that in your head is super important.

454
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Speaker 4: And to me, that could very well have been the

455
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Speaker 4: case for Arena Aldonna, where she's in this moment and

456
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Speaker 4: she just can't quite pull the trigger, and she was hesitant.

457
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Speaker 4: She actually sees Amanda noon As in front of her

458
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 4: moving around trying to hit her. She gets off to

459
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Speaker 4: a poor start and that things just start to snowball

460
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 4: from there. It's easy for that to happen to a fighter.

461
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Speaker 4: What I do think, though, is she's going to learn

462
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 4: a ton from this. If you're investigating yourself and trying

463
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 4: to figure out what the hell happened and how do

464
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 4: I allow myself to go out there and perform at

465
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Speaker 4: my best when I need it, I think we're going

466
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 4: to see it better al Donna because of it. I

467
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 4: would not be surprised if she gets back to that

468
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 4: championship spot and we see a much much better performance

469
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Speaker 4: because of it. So yeah, I mean there's a lot

470
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Speaker 4: of factors at plage on getting UFC jitters. Whether it's

471
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Speaker 4: your first fight or a championship fight is a very

472
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Speaker 4: real thing. There's a lot on the line, man. These

473
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 4: fighters are dealing with a lot. It's a big moment.

474
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Speaker 4: There's someone in front of you that's trying to hurt you.

475
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Speaker 4: We cannot forget that.

476
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Speaker 5: And the other thing that Dean Thomas said, and he

477
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Speaker 5: is always sage the weight cut. Right, she has not

478
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Speaker 5: made one hundred and thirty five pounds tons and tons

479
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 5: of times over and she canceled our fighter meeting because

480
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 5: she was already amidst her weightcut. There were rumblings that

481
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 5: she was throwing up. On Friday morning, she was the

482
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Speaker 5: first fighter to hit the scale. She made thirty five.

483
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Speaker 5: But I think it's ambitious to think that at thirty

484
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Speaker 5: five years of age, she can just keep making one

485
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Speaker 5: hundred and thirty five pounds if she remains in practice

486
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Speaker 5: as to what she is doing. And I don't think

487
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Speaker 5: the weight cut helped her performance on Saturday night. But

488
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Speaker 5: she is all class and I do think valuable experience

489
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Speaker 5: accrued for ray Al Donoba. Congratulations to Amanda noonez and

490
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Speaker 5: can't wait to give her a hug after she puts

491
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Speaker 5: a capstone on the greatest women's combat sports career we

492
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Speaker 5: have ever seen. All Right, plenty more coming up over

493
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Speaker 5: the next thirty five to forty five to fifty minutes

494
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Speaker 5: on UFC two eighty nine. Let's get to the Ray Longomanut.

495
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Speaker 3: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

496
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Speaker 5: I have a question a hole in this fucking shupsot.

497
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Speaker 6: That's what I want.

498
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Speaker 3: The Ray Longo minute during Ray long the John Nik

499
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Speaker 3: and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's up. Oh man, this is like four

501
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Speaker 2: point thirty in the morning to you guys.

502
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 5: So it is ten thirty one am Eastern as we

503
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 5: laid down the Anakin Florian Podcast live to tape here

504
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: on a Monday, earliest call time. We have asked of

505
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Speaker 5: Raymond in the four hundred and fifteen episode history of

506
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Speaker 5: the show, So I softly was hoping we could get

507
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 5: you at this time because some of us have some

508
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 5: conflicts later in the day. These pay per view recaps

509
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 5: are huge shows for us. Thank you for waking up

510
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 5: early on. How pathetic is that that this is early

511
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 5: for me? Seriously?

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny, I'm not even joking. How pathetic is that.

513
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 5: Hey, you're a busy man. You need your rest, you

514
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 5: need to recover. Yeah, hey, I like it.

515
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Speaker 2: OHI do with John got a big kiss on the head.

516
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 5: That that's I mean, I honestly feel like I can

517
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 5: retire now, right, Like, I don't ever think that I'll

518
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 5: feel more were fulfilled professionally, right, honestly, right, I mean,

519
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 5: all I'm really trying to do is do right by

520
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 5: these athletes, you know what I mean, And so to

521
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 5: have her respect, you know. Connor McGregor once did an

522
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 5: interview with Megan o'levy and he said, I was a

523
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 5: huge asset to the company, you know, and it's just

524
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 5: like things like that is what you live for, you know.

525
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 5: And however self serving it is for me to talk

526
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 5: about it on the show, you know, so be it.

527
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 5: But thank you.

528
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: No, well, let me tell you some Connor mcgreg is

529
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right. I was looking to joke around

530
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: about it, but now that we're going down, no, let's

531
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Speaker 2: joke about it, No question, I was gonna say, just

532
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: whatever you do, don't get anything else tattooed on your

533
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Speaker 2: body because of that.

534
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Speaker 5: But it's so funny because I was.

535
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Speaker 2: Gregor is one hundred right, huge asset. I hope everybody

536
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: realizes that too.

537
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Speaker 5: No question. Why couldn't I get like a Brazilian flag

538
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: tattoo though, or.

539
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: You should get those like the Brazilian flag lips right

540
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 4: here on the forehead.

541
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Speaker 5: That'd be that'd be good.

542
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could do it ever, like kiss on a

543
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: piece of paper, just have someone tatted on her.

544
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: Yeah. But I have thought in the past. We did

545
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 5: a tattoo bet actually on the Anakin Floran podcast back

546
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 5: in twenty fifteen that if betch Koheia beat Ronda Rousey,

547
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 5: I was getting the Brazilian flat tattooed on me and

548
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Speaker 5: bets Koheia did not get it done that night, but we.

549
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Speaker 6: Did.

550
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Speaker 5: We did, we did. But uh, well, before we spin

551
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Speaker 5: it forward to uh to Charles dubronx oli Ara and

552
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Speaker 5: you're looking great as usual, Raymond, your hairs, your hair's

553
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 5: behaving better than ever. But what do you have was

554
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: on Amanda Noon As I mean, what a what a

555
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 5: tremendous performance on which to go out.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, unequivocally the greatest to ever do it. You know,

557
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: female wise, for sure, but you could you could throw

558
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: them in any conversation. But uh, you know I I

559
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 2: was that was more disappointed. I thought A Donna had

560
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: a show win in that fight, Like I couldn't have

561
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: been more wrong, Like I mean, I was more disappointed

562
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: in al Donna getting that shot and just it was

563
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: like a deer in headlights. You know, the first three rounds.

564
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: You might as well have watched Amanda work a heavy

565
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: big That's what it kind of looked like. And it

566
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: was it was almost frustrating. You could even a balance.

567
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: I mean, she would just touch the leg. The girl

568
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: was rolling around on the floor. Was just almost crazy.

569
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Speaker 2: I don't know what I was feeling, but I just think,

570
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Speaker 2: you get that one shot and I would have just

571
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, It's it's really weird, but I don't

572
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: want to I definitely don't want to take anything. Like

573
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Speaker 2: I think it was one of those things too, where

574
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: it wasn't even what Amanda was doing because she was

575
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: playing the courtious a little bit at the beginning, and

576
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: she started picking up when she realized absolutely nothing was

577
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: coming back and she did the one hundred percent the

578
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: right thing. She gave us a little bit of everything,

579
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Speaker 2: stand up on the floor, ground and found. So it

580
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: was a great performance by by Amanda Nuna's and you

581
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: know just everything. I mean, I'm happy before it looks

582
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: like she made the right move getting now she's going

583
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: to enjoy a family As a coach. I don't know

584
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: if she did or she didn't because I wasn't really

585
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: watching the whole thing, but I don't think she did.

586
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: But I would have liked to have seen a thank

587
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: like a Mike Brown or somebody at ATT that helped

588
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: you know, the majority of those she is, you know

589
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: what I mean. As a coach, I get a little

590
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: sensitive to that stuff. I think, yeah, that would have

591
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: been nice. I have no clue or idea what happened

592
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: while she's even had well.

593
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Speaker 5: I do, and I didn't before the fight week. That

594
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 5: just was right. So Amanda has no ill will towards

595
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: any one individual. But I just believe a lot of

596
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 5: things were mishandled. But I think it's fair of you

597
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 5: to say that, and I think everything you say is

598
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 5: fair about the fight, Kenny, Like, it's really tricky when

599
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 5: you get to these situations where you're trying to simultaneously

600
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: praise and law Amanda Nunez while also acknowledging that rna

601
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Speaker 5: Al Donna did nothing with this title fight. Like I

602
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 5: share a lot of rays emotions, like what do you do?

603
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Speaker 2: I mean, John, I was frustrated. Uh it was I

604
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Speaker 2: just I don't know. I you know, I just thought

605
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: the mean, you know that Mexican thing, they had that

606
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: thing going. It was she took towards the end of

607
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: the fight, she took everything Amanda true out it, you know,

608
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: like you might as well go for it at that point.

609
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: You know, it just turned into that. But look, a man,

610
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: that fight has nothing to do with the legacy of

611
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 2: Amanda anyway. But she did. I thought she handled herself

612
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: perfectly in that fight. You know, she picked it up

613
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: as it was going on, and she looked great as usual.

614
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: But it was more Yeah, I don't know, it was

615
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: a tricky I just it was more frust frustrated, very

616
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: frustrating to look at. It's a title fight. I mean,

617
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: you got one shot, you worked your ass to get there.

618
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: You definitely could bounce a little bit. I think, unless

619
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Speaker 2: I'm totally wrong with what I was looking at the past,

620
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: but that was that was frustrated. As a coach, I

621
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Speaker 2: would have lost my ship for sure with that.

622
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Speaker 5: Kenny. I know, we talked about this a lot, and

623
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Speaker 5: it's hard for me as a non fighter to sit

624
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 5: here and say, you know, come on, man, you know

625
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 5: you got one shoe. You know, it's like I'm not

626
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 5: in there getting fucking jabbed by Amanda Nunez. And by

627
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 5: the way, there was one elbow bro Brothers, I should

628
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 5: say that caused like you could see where it could

629
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Speaker 5: have sliced her cheek. Whie the fuck open. I'm telling

630
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: you guys, if that elbow that Nunez landed had like

631
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Speaker 5: four more miles per hour, Rani Aldonna might have a

632
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 5: scar for life and we'd have a TKO and one

633
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 5: of the most vicious knockouts in the UFC history, you know.

634
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: Man, I Nunas just to add so many different weapons

635
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 4: firing and I again for all Donna, I just wonder

636
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: what was going on, you know, was there something physical thing?

637
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: You know?

638
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, again, there's no greater motivator than being down

639
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: three rounds and you know you got ten minutes to

640
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: get a finish, and we just didn't see that sense

641
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: of urgency for whatever reason and got off to a

642
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: bad start that could happen, but not making any adjustments

643
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: and not making you know, not having the energy like

644
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: you're almost desperate in a way. You know, it's cool

645
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: that you're staying composed and stuff, but throw stuff, throw

646
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: stuff there, go out there and win that fight. And

647
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: we just never saw that. So I don't know. Was

648
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: it a physical shutdown, was a mental shutdown?

649
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Speaker 5: Was it both? We don't know.

650
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that. To me, it was go out

651
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: on your shield to go home at that point, at

652
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: some point in that fight. It is just trust me,

653
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: you'd be better off going forward, getting in a little

654
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: bit of a scrap. Who knows what's going to happen,

655
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: but that, yeah, I don't you know, Look, you don't

656
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: want to be critical because like John said, you know

657
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: you did the people in there. She earned the right

658
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: to get up there, you know what I mean, and

659
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: to be in that fight. It's just no, I'm saying

660
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: it was more. Yeah, I just it was like depressing.

661
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: It's not a bit I expected way more put it

662
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: that that's just been ended like that, not only not

663
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: even so not even getting technical saying anything, but just Wow,

664
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: I just the hands never came away from a head.

665
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: That was Yeah.

666
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: When you started lying, I said, punch that we're not

667
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: even at some point, you're not even trying like it

668
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: wasn't you weren't getting bombed that bed and I don't

669
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: have to eat. Yeah, I don't know. It didn't look

670
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: that way to me, but I wasn't there. You were there,

671
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: so you were no.

672
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: And I agree with h with a lot of your

673
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 5: sentiments and your text messages. And again we appreciate the

674
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: text from Raymond Peter Longo on fight night all day,

675
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 5: all right, let us get to the co main event. Yeah,

676
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 5: And if I had more muscle mass in my breast region,

677
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: I would get Charles Olivera's face tattooed on my chest

678
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 5: the way he has his relatives tattooed on his chest.

679
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 5: I want to start with Ken Fla on this and

680
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 5: then get to Raymond Kenny, Charles Olivera, Man, you know

681
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 5: what else? What else can you say?

682
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Man?

683
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: He stopped twenty fucking men inside that octagon.

684
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: That's insane, and especially when you when you have the

685
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: backdrop in the context that that's in the one hundred

686
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: and fifty five pound division.

687
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 5: A division where.

688
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: You know the guy's legitimately in the top twenty five

689
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: maybe top thirty are absolute killers. Now I'll get into

690
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: something a little bit different that might be a little

691
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: bit of a party pooper. But as far as offensive

692
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 4: skills and what this kid is capable of.

693
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 5: When he hurts you, he takes you out right after that.

694
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: That is a skill that very few people have, and

695
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: he can do it in a variety of ways, whether

696
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: it's with some crazy beautiful submission or some nasty knockout knees, elbows, fists,

697
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. He's an offensive marvel and it's so

698
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: pretty to see him work when he's moving forward and

699
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: he's in a groove. Dude, There's very few people that

700
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: are able to stop that, and this was a performance

701
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: that was much needed for him. He obviously wants that

702
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: shot against Mahaschef again. I think he deserves it, and

703
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: I thought it was just a fantastic performance.

704
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 5: He wasn't some trouble.

705
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: There for a little bit against Baniel dar Yust Daryusch

706
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 4: wasn't really able to take advantage of it. But uh, anyway,

707
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 4: I'll get my thoughts on on kind of both those

708
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: guys a little bit later. But uh again, OLIVERA offensively

709
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 4: is one of the most impressive fighters that I have

710
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 4: seen in the UFC, no question.

711
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I agree with Kenny to killer instinct off

712
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: the charts. When he gets you hurt, he's a finisher, period,

713
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: that's it. And then like I think Kenny brings up

714
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: a good word when he's in the groove, when he's

715
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: in his rhythm, he is a he's a beast man.

716
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: I think sometimes I think what gets overshadowed maybe is

717
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: because he's got so many ways to get you out

718
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: of there, like you know, like you know Gates, you

719
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: you know he's coming, He's swinging for defenses, he's trying

720
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 2: to chop your leg down. This guy could do it also,

721
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: but he has other ways of winning too, So I

722
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: think I think that's what confused me a little bit.

723
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: I he his striking. I thought that fight was off

724
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: the hook, you know what I mean? And you know

725
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: I thought that uh Saturday night, there was I don't know,

726
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: I really felt like there was going to be two upsets.

727
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: Not that would have been an upstick because Darrin Husch

728
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: was the I think he was the favorite by the end,

729
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: but uh, man, you could see he did have a

730
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: way to victory. He looked like he could survive on

731
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: the ground. If he could have taken him down and

732
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: stayed on top of he probably could have played it safety.

733
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: He looked good down there. But that but when that

734
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: fight got back to its feet, that old guy was

735
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: just like a terminator me and I tell you, very

736
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: super impressive.

737
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 5: We got to get rid of that fucking crackle man, snap,

738
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: crackle pop. It's like cereal right now. That sounds awful.

739
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 5: But yes, but Neil dar yus there's a lot of angles,

740
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 5: of course on his side of things in this matchup.

741
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 5: Oh my god, man, I can't even take it like,

742
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 5: I'm not even ignoring it anymore. Yeah, somebody that is

743
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 5: fucking brutal. I can't even do the show like that.

744
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: I'm not even playing. I just heard it.

745
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: I just turn it now.

746
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, I'm not even messing around.

747
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: I know producers don't like when you mentioned stuff like this,

748
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: but I'm not going to just continue to do the

749
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 5: show like this. Oh my god, we can stop the

750
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 5: fuck down. No, maybe it just stopped all right, let's continue.

751
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: So there are plenty of dar usse angles on all

752
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 5: of this. You see. See I do have a dark side.

753
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 5: You see it come out when we have technical issues.

754
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: That sounds beautiful right now, so we will get to

755
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 5: Benio Darush and all of this. But for Charles Olavera,

756
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: when you look at this kid's body of work, right

757
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 5: and the way he responded. Now it's coming back to

758
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 5: Isla Makashev's loss, the way he responded to the loss,

759
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 5: weighing one hundred and fifty four pounds, the appetite for

760
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 5: hard work. Right. This is a kid too, made his

761
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 5: UFC debut at twenty years of age. Right, he has

762
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 5: this entire nation on his shoulders. Right. He is the

763
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: King of Salpaulo. He's one of the most popular fighters

764
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 5: in the world today. All the loudest ovations all week

765
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 5: long were reserved for this guy. He is a bone

766
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 5: of f UFC superstar with arguably the greatest resume of

767
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 5: any fighter of all time. I'm not saying it's my argument,

768
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 5: but you can certainly make it. You know, you added

769
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 5: Benil Daryus Scalp to this resume. After Benny Daryus reels

770
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 5: off eight consecutive wins, and you go beat him like this.

771
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 5: I don't know what else to say. Man, you know,

772
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 5: first ballot Kenny doesn't even begin to describe his legacy.

773
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 4: Oh, he's gonna he's gonna get that for sure. And

774
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 4: this is where Kenny the party pooper comes in. Yeah, dude,

775
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: I think that. I think that both guys when they

776
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 4: fight and let's let's go to Benil's eight fight win streak,

777
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: and that is insane. Okay, doing that in the UFC

778
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: is no freaking joke. However, he is a guy that

779
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: has flirted with disaster in that even in his wins,

780
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 4: it's like he almost loses. And going against a guy

781
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: like Charles Olivera who's so offensively minded, offensive minded, he's

782
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: going to catch you at some point.

783
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 5: And and I think.

784
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: Charles Olivera defensively, we've seen him struggle at We've seen

785
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: him knocked out again, knocked down against Gates. You, we've

786
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: seen him get dropped against Islam and some other fights

787
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 4: where he comes back and you know, able to rally back.

788
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: So I think that when you're talking about offense killer

789
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: instinct most finishes in UFC history. Yeah, he's one of

790
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 4: the greatest to ever do it. Is he the greatest lightweight.

791
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 5: Of all time.

792
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 4: I don't know because I'm thinking about let's say Habib.

793
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: If we're thinking about Habib Remaga MATV for example, I

794
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: don't remember a time where he's been dropped. I don't

795
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: remember a time we're like, oh my gosh, is he

796
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: gonna make it out of this round? I do remember

797
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: those moments for Charles olivera on maybe more than five occasions.

798
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 4: So that's the only thing that's kind of preventing me from,

799
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: you know, going there and kind of hoisting him up

800
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: as the greatest. But he is a guy that is

801
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: so exciting to watch. The reason everyone's given him this

802
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 4: big pop and why everyone wants to see him fight

803
00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: is because, all right, unlike Habib, he's extremely exciting. He's

804
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: going out there to get in your face and finish

805
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: you any way he can. That's what That's what creates

806
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 4: a superstar, Okay, whether he has the belt or not.

807
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: And that's what separates Charles Oliver from someone else. You know,

808
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: is he technically perfect, no things that needs to show up, uh,

809
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: But as far as you know, looking at a guy

810
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: paying money to see someone fights, that's why he's a

811
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 4: huge star. That's why he goes out there and gets finishes,

812
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: and that's why I think the UFC should put him

813
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: as the next guy to go in there against Mahasha.

814
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 5: Ray, any chance you can grab some headphones? We actually

815
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 5: have you muted right now. I don't know if you

816
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 5: have any headphones around, but I'm being told the crackling

817
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 5: is uh is because we need some headphones. But if

818
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 5: you don't have headphones, then we will take any version

819
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: of you that we can. All right, Ray, He's gonna

820
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: go grab some headphones. It sounds like fucking trash. I

821
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: love you, though, Anna Conflorian podcast poll question can you

822
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 5: mute him for me? Thank you?

823
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: Hey?

824
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: DraftKings Network, don't fire us after this week? And a

825
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 5: Conflorian podcast poll question, who do you believe is the

826
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: greatest lightweight in UFC history? No wrong answers. Question is

827
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: open to interpretation, and these are my words. I'd argue

828
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: no one is more accomplished than Charles Olivera. But is

829
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 5: he your lightweight? Goat Still plenty of time to vote.

830
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 5: Kabib Normongo MetOp getting forty seven point seven percent of

831
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 5: the vote. Charles Olivera forty one point five percent of

832
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: the vote, bjpenn ten point four percent of the vote. Now, Kenny,

833
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 5: I don't really know that there's any other name you

834
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 5: could inject into the conversation. You know, Islami Kashev was

835
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 5: the fourth choice, but nobody is really gonna acknowledge him

836
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 5: over Kabib in that conversation right now, Charles Olivera can

837
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: lay claim to having finished a lot of the guys

838
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 5: that are also on Kabib nor Mango Medoff's championship resume

839
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 5: twenty nine to zero will always be hard to argue

840
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 5: with Kabib normago Metov's domination juxtaposed against I don't know,

841
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 5: maybe double digit UFC losses even for Charles Olivera. Right Like,

842
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: there are weird points of comparison when it comes to

843
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: Charles Olivera and kabibnrmago Medov, but no lightweight fighter has

844
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: accomplished more than Charles Olivera inside that octagon, and the

845
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 5: longevity component of what he has done, He's had so

846
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 5: many different phases to his career. I just feel like

847
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 5: when you add this win to everything that he has

848
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 5: already done, given that every sharp mind out there seemingly

849
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: was backing Banil daryush I just think this is a huge,

850
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 5: huge singular win and a win that Kabib doesn't have.

851
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and again I don't want to say

852
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: it's irrelevant almost, but at the end of the day,

853
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 4: when someone is looking to buy a UFC ticket and

854
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: it's let's say between a habibnrmago Metov or a Charles Olivera,

855
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: go to pick Charles Olivera all day, you know, just

856
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: because of that style, and you know shit is going

857
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: to go down when he goes in there to compete.

858
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: I mean, he's it's so impressive to see him go

859
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 4: out there, pick his opponents apart, and when he has

860
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: you hurt, he finishes you.

861
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 5: Period.

862
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: You can't say that about any other guy, you know,

863
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: besides really Charles Olivera. And he's doing it at an

864
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: extremely high level, and he's been doing this for an

865
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 4: extremely long time. It's so fun to watch, man, it

866
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: really is. He's an absolute dynamo.

867
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 5: And one of the most amazing statistics in MMA history

868
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 5: is that Connor McGregor's weight class that in theory, would

869
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 5: have been the best one for him to fight in

870
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: long term one hundred and fifty five pounds. Connor has

871
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 5: one lightweight win, and it's over Eddie Alvarez for the title,

872
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 5: and yes, that made him the double champion, and you

873
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 5: can argue that as the most significant singular win in

874
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 5: UFC lightweight history because of it. But absolutely remarkable that

875
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 5: Conor McGregor only has one lightweight win in his entire career,

876
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: and that's why, of course he's not anywhere near this

877
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: conversation as great as I think he could have been

878
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 5: competing consistently at one hundred and fifty five pounds. I

879
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: mentioned all the sharps on Banil dar Yusch. Right, Banil

880
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 5: dar Yusch was the favorite all week. It seemed as

881
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: though maybe like right it closed. There was a big

882
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 5: Charles Olivera bet because my brother seemed to see Charles

883
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 5: Olivera minus one twenty five when at times on fight

884
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 5: day Charles was plus one thirty. But you know, Chail

885
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 5: sun and suggested Charles Olivera wouldn't win. Around there were

886
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: a lot of people that went all in on Banil

887
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 5: dar yush. You had a perfect UFC two eighty nine.

888
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: The only fight you didn't hit was this one. So

889
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 5: what were your thoughts on on Banil dar Yusch's performance

890
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 5: and everything that this fight week held for Benny dart Yuisch.

891
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: Thank you for asking. I wanted to get into that.

892
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: I thought Benil got into some great positions, right, I mean,

893
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 4: he was able to get on top, and to me, man,

894
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: I want to be respectful of Banil, but he wasn't adjusting.

895
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 4: I saw not the best mma IQ out there in

896
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 4: that he kept trying to throw the biggest shots from

897
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: very far away.

898
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 5: And Charles Oliver is just too damn slick man. You're

899
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: on top and you're you're trying to wing these huge shots,

900
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: and olivera was avoiding all of them as opposed to

901
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 5: kind of calming down, mix up your strikes, you know,

902
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: similar to just trying to go for overhand rights on

903
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 5: the feet. How about a job here and there, Well,

904
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 5: how about you know, some small shots, some body shots,

905
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: something to mix things up that Oliver had to adjust with.

906
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 5: And I felt like he almost got a little bit

907
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 5: too emotional and just started scrapping as opposed to trying

908
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: to pick him apart and and just land shots on

909
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 5: his jaw. And Benny's an excellent grappler, he really is,

910
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 5: and he's got power, but I think he caught it.

911
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 5: He got himself a little bit too emotional when he

912
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 5: got that top position. You know, similar to Irena Aldona.

913
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 4: Different people are going to react in these big moments

914
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: in different ways. And I think after this one, Benny's

915
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: gonna look back at that and go, man, I should

916
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: have settled down. I should have looked for smarter shots

917
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: out there instead of trying to take his head off.

918
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: He should have been a little bit more methodical and

919
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 4: way more calculated when he had that top position inside

920
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: Olivera's guard.

921
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 5: So Banil guard. Huch had a lot of interesting things

922
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 5: to say in our fighter meeting. He said, Charles Olivera

923
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 5: is still a mystery to me, and then he also

924
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 5: had a quote that he said, the hardest thing for

925
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 5: me is discipline mid fight. That he loves an ugly fight.

926
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 5: But yeah, I agree, Kenny, like seemingly his strong fight

927
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 5: IQ and his instincts were not there on the night

928
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 5: that he most needed them to be there. And it

929
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 5: was interesting just seeing the way he approached this fight week,

930
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 5: And you know, I think we all do it differently.

931
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 5: He's got his kids like in the room with him,

932
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: and I don't know that that on Lesha' is your

933
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 5: most primal state. I do think maybe there was part

934
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: of this fight week that Banil dark Huch would go

935
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: back and redo. Ray, what do you have for us

936
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 5: on the are you side if anything?

937
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I'm agreeing with both of you guys, and

938
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: it's different, but it's similar. It looked like both al

939
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: Donna and Benil they just they kind of not really

940
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: been Neil. But but Kenny brings up something like he's

941
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: been in some of those chaotic situations. He doesn't come

942
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: out on top. I mean I kind of put that

943
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: on also on Olavera, but Oliver Ara, man, he just

944
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: he went right through it. I don't know. I think.

945
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 5: I don't know.

946
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: At least you saw a way of it, Like again,

947
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: you I could see him doing really good on the

948
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: floor standing up wise, I thought he'd do way better.

949
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: I didn't think. I thought he could control the pace

950
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: a little better, pick your shots, get to the floor

951
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: a little easier.

952
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 6: Uh.

953
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: But once, once the chaos started, he jumped right in

954
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: there and the same thing happened to him that happens

955
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: happened to him in the past a couple of times,

956
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: which which stinks, But because I know he waited so

957
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: long for this moment, and uh, you know, and and

958
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: and as much as I agree with you John with

959
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: the kids and stuff, if you know the guy and

960
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: he's just a laid back, chilled out guy. Yeah, so

961
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: that that's that's good in bad. It might be bad

962
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: for the reasons you're alluding to, but it's also good

963
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: in the loss that he recognizes the only thing that

964
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: matters to him is he has his family, and I

965
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: think that's what's going to give him solace moving forward.

966
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: So I think it's a kind of like a double

967
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: edged sword. But I think it's one of those guys

968
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: that really keeps at in perspective, so as if he

969
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: had to go out, he's going to go out bringing

970
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: that kid every time, you know. I think that's and

971
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: I think that's but I think your point is really

972
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: well taken. You like that, you know, and me too.

973
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: Focus let's go. But everybody's different.

974
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, you're right. Like if you said to

975
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: Kenny Florian Ken flow title eliminator against Gray Maynard will

976
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: give you an extra quarter million, but your kids have

977
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 5: to sleep in your hotel room the night before the fight,

978
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 5: he would say, keep your fucking money. There's just no way.

979
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: Everybody's different. But yeah, I thought we hit on a

980
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 5: lot of truth is when it comes to Benil Daryush,

981
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 5: I think I think I over prep for Charles Olivera. Right,

982
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 5: his fights don't last that long. There's so much we

983
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 5: leave on the table, right, the whole shoot to box angle,

984
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 5: right Macaco, former student of Hafe al Cordero under that

985
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 5: banner back in the day. We touched on it a

986
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 5: little bit, but you're not getting into any of that

987
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: stuff when it comes to Charles, because his fights are

988
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 5: so quick. One thing I wanted to share with the audience,

989
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 5: and I'm a little scrambled today, so I hope I

990
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: didn't already reference this. But ray I asked Charles about

991
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: power and if he trained for power, if he always

992
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 5: knew he had natural power. Michael Chandler, I've asked about this.

993
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 5: He says he definitely trains for power and thinks you

994
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 5: can Some people think it's all rooted in technique. I

995
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 5: think a smoke alarm mud has just gone off here.

996
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 5: But Charles Olivera deflected when I asked him about power.

997
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: He was just giving all credit to shoot the box

998
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 5: and the system and the coaches, and he feels like

999
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 5: he unleashes power really based more upon technique and speed

1000
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 5: that he's been taught. So what are your thoughts on

1001
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 5: natural power or versus train power and all that.

1002
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: I think there's nothing better than a guy. Some guys

1003
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: just have dynamite in their hands. Man, they just have

1004
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: bricks in their gloves. It's you know. But some of

1005
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: those guys can't get it to the target either, so

1006
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: they expose themselves too much. So uh yeah, yeah, I

1007
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: mean you obviously, the stronger you are, you should be

1008
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 2: more powerful. I mean you could get like really technical

1009
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: with it. But yeah, it's it's more based on technique,

1010
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, where you if you can

1011
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: get the punch there quicker than the guy could see

1012
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: it like, it's you got natural power, you know. And

1013
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: and again to have no power at all, like we

1014
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: can't break an egg, you would see a big difference.

1015
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: But everybody's got enough power, most of the guys we're

1016
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: talking about anyway to get somebody out of there, for sure.

1017
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if that answers the question he's you know,

1018
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: I think he's writing. I think he's right and saying

1019
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: technique and everything else. But you know, you get into

1020
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: those gym Wars, which you know who shoot Box was

1021
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: famous for. Your power was coming in. Let me tell

1022
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 2: you something I'm sure I mentioned on the show before.

1023
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: OLIVERA fought at one of my shows, the Ring of Combat,

1024
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: before the UFC. So we're looking at like two thousand

1025
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: and eight, two thousand and nine, he beat a tough

1026
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: a local kid who was a tough kid. I mean,

1027
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: he decapitate him power. I was in shock when he

1028
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: got in the UFC. I wasn't seeing what I saw

1029
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: in the Ring of Combat. He was a vicious kicker

1030
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: and you could even see what the head kick Darry

1031
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: Hust blocked that kick, you know what I mean. But yeah, yeah, right,

1032
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: I think it was the speed of what you got

1033
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: up there. You get caught off guard. There's a lot

1034
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: of things that go with the power. I want to

1035
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: sit here and go through that all day. But his uh,

1036
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: he was, I mean he was powerful back in the day.

1037
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: Like again, I'm telling you right now, he has natural power,

1038
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 2: especially you know, for a lanky a guy like that,

1039
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: He's definitely has power and he's obviously he's proven it

1040
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: and me look at it, look at his record, look

1041
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: at the guys he's beat you know.

1042
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a cool reference. Kenny. Did you want to

1043
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: jump in with something there? I believe you did.

1044
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: Well.

1045
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I was going to.

1046
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: Say Ray actually touched on it after the speed also, right,

1047
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: It's like if your brain isn't ready to take that

1048
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 4: impact and I didn't expect it to come from a

1049
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 4: certain angle, it rocks you. And and Olivera definitely had

1050
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 4: that speed advantage against Daryush. And I also think we've

1051
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: seen him get so much better, right, I mean, Olivera

1052
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 4: has made such great improvements, not only you know, with

1053
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 4: his technique, but with his confidence, his overall game and

1054
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 4: how he puts it all together. He's got so many

1055
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 4: weapons that you have to worry about that, you know,

1056
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: your brain's kind of scrambled trying to figure out what

1057
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 4: the hell is he going to throw next? And that

1058
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 4: is such that is such an important skill set.

1059
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: No, without of doubt. And my point about him fighting

1060
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 2: at the ring of combat too, was that you at

1061
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: that night he was head and shoulders above most of

1062
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: the guys fighting on that card, like you knew this

1063
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: was going to be a champion or he was going

1064
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: to be good. It was vicious, I'm telling you it was.

1065
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: It was vicious, and I'm late he got to the

1066
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: point where we got I mean, look, one the only

1067
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: criticism if I had a prison I don't see anything

1068
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: out of that performance that makes me think the Islam

1069
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: fight would go different. I don't know if that's just me.

1070
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: I just think that matchup he could beat everybody. Now

1071
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm convinced everybody he's going to beat. He just might

1072
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: be stuck in that category way he can't get he

1073
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: can't beat the champ because I think that matchup is

1074
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: just a bad matchup for him.

1075
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 5: Yeah. See, I think he can beat Islam. I think

1076
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 5: that betting line for that potential rematch in October is

1077
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 5: completely out of whack. I'm seeing Charles at like plus

1078
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 5: three six. Yeah. I guess we'll see, you know, But

1079
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 5: I just feel like everything that he has done since

1080
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: that loss, in terms of the camp and the statement

1081
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 5: at one hundred and fifty four pounds, and even the

1082
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 5: conviction and confidence that comes with this result. I guess

1083
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 5: we'll see, you know, But I think he deserves it. John,

1084
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 5: There's no question to it.

1085
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 4: I agree with Ray though on because Islam doesn't throw

1086
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 4: himself out of position. Islam doesn't take major risks. There's

1087
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: no like holes in his game where you're like, oh,

1088
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: Charles could expose this or that that.

1089
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: He just the dude doesn't make mistakes.

1090
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 4: That's that's the problem with Isla Maha Chef. So that's

1091
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 4: what makes it tough in a rematch. So I agree

1092
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 4: with Ray there, But as far as you know someone

1093
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 4: who's gonna move, who's gonna move forward and try to

1094
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: finish the fight, like that's how you beat Islam Maha Chef.

1095
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 4: You don't go out there and try to decision him

1096
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 4: or outpoint him. You need someone with a skill set

1097
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: like a Charles Olivera who's at least going to try

1098
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: to go for the finish. That's his best bet of

1099
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 4: kind of creating that chaos. And I don't think there's

1100
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: anyone else that can do it like oliver EA in

1101
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: that regard. So that's kind of why I want to

1102
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 4: see it. But uh, you know, so I I but

1103
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 4: I do agree with Ray at the same time.

1104
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 5: Right now, sportsbook Islam maikashe minus three hundred, Charles Olivera

1105
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 5: plus two fifty, go ahead.

1106
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: Ray, Yeah, crazy, I mean, but I'm agreeing to with you, guys.

1107
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: Key one hundred percent deserves that shot. Like that's the

1108
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: tricky part. You can't deny him the shot because he

1109
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: looked that good and he is that good. But sometimes,

1110
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: you know, styles make fights, and I just that strong

1111
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: wrestling base seems to be Ola Air is week spy.

1112
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: Like again, when that guy gets on top, he's not

1113
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: making mistakes, like Kenny said, he's That's where the problem is.

1114
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: So it's either you can get him out standing or

1115
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: you're going to have trouble with him, you know. And

1116
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: I mean, look at look out well he got knocked

1117
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: down and then submitted, so that I'll always say that

1118
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: could happen, but he just I thought that was a

1119
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: dominant win for Islam. And you know, we kind of

1120
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: know Oliveric to do now what he did to Benil

1121
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: to ninety nine percent of the guys. And that's where

1122
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: it gets tricky to me, is that I'm not sure

1123
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm seeing the rematch going his way. But he one

1124
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: hundred percent deserves it, and that's all that matters. I

1125
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: think when you give a guy a shot and I

1126
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: think this time, maybe he does things differently. Maybe you know,

1127
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: he can make it a better fight. You know, maybe

1128
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: even based on you know, Volkanowski's performance with Islam, you know,

1129
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: maybe picked up a couple of things that he could exploit.

1130
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Who knows, that's that's his camp's hopefully to Aaron tune

1131
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 2: with that, but he deserves that shot.

1132
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 5: July twenty nine, Dustin Poorier and Justin gae Chee fight

1133
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 5: for a second time for the BMF title. The calendar

1134
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 5: for the winner of that fight, even by knockout quickly,

1135
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily going to align for October against Islami Kashev.

1136
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: Had Beanil Dar yush won, it seemed like he was

1137
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 5: going to turn around quickly and fight Islam in October.

1138
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 5: But for Charles Olivera to set up a second fight

1139
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: with Islami Kasha based upon the way the first fight went,

1140
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 5: he needed exactly this to essentially make himself undeniable. Like

1141
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 5: if you're Dustin Pourie and Justin Geachie watching that fight,

1142
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: you're thinking, man, like, how do you deny Charles right now?

1143
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 5: And Volkanovsky could factor into this equation as well. Huge

1144
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 5: fight for him against Yayi Rodriguez, but there's definitely a

1145
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 5: ground twelve support for a second meeting between those two

1146
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 5: guys as well. All Right, Ray, before we let you go.

1147
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 5: It will be Brad Tabores for Chris Wadman in his return,

1148
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 5: It'll be Boston, Massachusetts, where at least MMA they like

1149
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 5: blindly support New Yorkers, right, But like, if I'm a

1150
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 5: Boston fan in the building that night, cheering Tabores, absolutely

1151
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 5: booing the New Yorker, Chris Wadman, probably booing the New

1152
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 5: Yorker al Jamaine Sterling if I'm in Boston, right, not

1153
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 5: going to root for New Yorkers, but very excited nonetheless

1154
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 5: to have Chris back for the first time since April

1155
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty one. And you know, I do say

1156
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 5: a lot of that tongue in cheek. Chris has a

1157
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 5: huge spot occupied in my heart, and I'm very emotional

1158
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 5: and happy to have him back, of course.

1159
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's great. He sounds great, man, he

1160
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: sounds great. And you know he's been training out in

1161
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: South Carolina. We'll start talking about when he's coming here

1162
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: or if I'm going there or whatever we're gonna do.

1163
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 5: But look, he's Victorian. He's Carolina Chris, now New York.

1164
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 5: He's not New York. Anymores Carolina Chris. You can have

1165
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 5: a little Florian long ago reunion in the Carolinas.

1166
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to meet up because I don't think

1167
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: Chris is too far.

1168
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 5: I don't think he's too far from me.

1169
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: I think he's in Fort Mills. I don't know how

1170
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: far that is from you. But yeah, yeah, it's all good,

1171
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: it's all good. Then just let me shout out. Uh.

1172
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 2: I got three guys fighting at the CFFC this place

1173
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: coming Friday, which is good on fight Piz Dennis Bozuka

1174
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: trying to get into the UFC again, So he's looking good,

1175
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: Damian Nelson and Charlie Campbell. Three. Uh, I expect three finishes.

1176
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 5: This is a big weekend. You got Damian Nelson, you

1177
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 5: got that fucking Charlie Campbell. Trigger Dennis Bozuka, Hey, ray well,

1178
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 5: Dennis Bozuka. I mean, he's already deserving of a UFC

1179
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 5: roster spot, but he finds himself in an interesting situation

1180
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 5: because a fight like this when you're on the precipice

1181
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 5: and I hope he's not listening, like decisions aren't good enough.

1182
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1183
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 5: It's a hard reality, but that is the truth. Like

1184
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 5: generally speaking, as I have tried, however infrequently, to get

1185
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: regional guys into the UFC with the soft word to

1186
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 5: Shan Shelby, you better be on a win streak and

1187
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 5: you almost better be on a finishing streak.

1188
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think he makes that pretty clear.

1189
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I also think too at this stage of

1190
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 5: the game, given the bloated nature of the roster Short

1191
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 5: Notice Dana White Contender Series. I know Bazooka obviously has

1192
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 5: had some experience there, but short Notice and Dana Whit's

1193
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 5: Contender Series or are the two primary condos to get.

1194
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: In That's the only way to get in it is

1195
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 2: at this point, I think it's the only that's that's

1196
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: that's what they're doing now looks like that. So uh

1197
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: hopefully we get a couple more guys on the Contended

1198
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: series too, so I'm excited about that. We already would

1199
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 2: have one guy on uh Pompos Gregorio. Uh so that's

1200
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: good too.

1201
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 5: But anyway, all right, man, Well big weekend. I'll be

1202
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 5: watching CFFC on UFC five pass this week and just kidding,

1203
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 5: but uh no, I actually might might.

1204
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: I'll be cornering with a Joe, So I think I

1205
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: think the might be doing like the Hall of Fame

1206
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: Dinner for them. Also, Oh wow, that's going to be

1207
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: a nice.

1208
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: Weekend, right, good luck, man, that's awesome.

1209
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: Thanks man, it's good stuff.

1210
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 5: Hey, thank you for waking up early.

1211
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: Is the crackling still going on? Was that me? I

1212
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: really apologize?

1213
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 5: That's okay. No, it's fine.

1214
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: I'll bring the head I'll leave the headphones here. It

1215
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: was definitely the headphone though.

1216
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 6: No.

1217
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 5: I mean I have a call with our chief of

1218
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 5: content Stacey McCollum at DraftKings next week and hopefully she

1219
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 5: doesn't bring it up. But all good. Just hey real

1220
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 5: quick before you listen.

1221
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: Can't cancel out the content, that's right, No, absolutely unbelievable.

1222
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 5: The content is king. So in all seriousness, right, did

1223
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 5: you have to like set an alarm and pivot your

1224
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 5: schedule a little bit to make this ten thirty am

1225
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 5: window work?

1226
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: Oh? But the good news is why old Cody list

1227
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: I said, I'm doing Wideman's podcast at thirty so I

1228
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: got to see you because I.

1229
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 5: Say, you might not have been available to us in

1230
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 5: our normal windows, So.

1231
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: You know, I don't go there. I'm not going with

1232
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: another podcast. Right, But it actually worked out good, is

1233
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. As much as it's early for me

1234
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: it worked out.

1235
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 5: All right, buddy. Well, uh, I might be in the

1236
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 5: New York area next week, so I absolutely will look

1237
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 5: you up and man, I wish you a great day

1238
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 5: in a better evening, and of course all the best

1239
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 5: this weekend at Cage Fury Fighting Championships.

1240
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 2: All right, guys, I will talk to you and that's

1241
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: you want to get treated like you can give me

1242
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: a buzz.

1243
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 5: All right, buddy, thank you. Take care the Ray Long

1244
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 5: Home minute every week here on the Anaphorian podcast. Brian

1245
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 5: Petrie coming up in about three minutes. I just want

1246
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 5: to hit on proper Mike Mallott and we will extend

1247
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 5: the UFC two eighty nine recap with mister Petrie here

1248
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 5: in a few minutes. But to the surprise of me,

1249
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 5: as I was prepping this show, and I think to

1250
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 5: the surprise of our UFC fan base, Kenny, there are

1251
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 5: only sixteen Canadian fighters on this UFC roster of over

1252
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 5: seven hundred fighters, and we have been waiting for somebody

1253
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 5: to take this torch for this nation and become a star. Right.

1254
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 5: We've talked in the past about you sort of being

1255
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 5: maybe born in the wrong city to be this like

1256
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 5: wildly popular professional athlete right in Boston, Massachusetts with the

1257
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 5: Red Sox, the Patriots of the Celtics and the Bruins.

1258
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 5: Now obviously in your prime when you were fighting for

1259
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 5: the title, like you were a massive star in Boston.

1260
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 5: But in Canada, Kenny, it does not take much for

1261
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 5: you to have this nation by the testicles. And there's

1262
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 5: been a lot of fighters, Haquem Dwado and Gavin Tucker

1263
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 5: and others who we thought maybe could do it. And

1264
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 5: Hakim Dawoadho is actually the only man to beat proper

1265
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 5: Mike Mallott. But at least right now, with respect to

1266
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 5: all the Canadians, Charles Jordaine and others, there is a one.

1267
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 5: There is a one as to which guy could potentially

1268
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 5: take the torch for Canada. It is proper Mike Malot.

1269
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 5: He took advantage of this showcase. He gets Adam Fuguet

1270
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 5: out of there with a submission in round two. He

1271
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 5: has ten pro wins, they are all by finish, nine

1272
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 5: of them in round one. He's an outstanding grappler. I'm

1273
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 5: curious what you thought about Mike Mallott and ultimately what

1274
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 5: you think the ceiling might be for Canada's best hope

1275
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 5: for UFC Golden Glory here in twenty twenty three.

1276
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 4: He's an excellent athlete as well. And from what I

1277
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 4: can see, you know, just overall package, you know, he

1278
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 4: really has everything to be that star, no question about it.

1279
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: Man.

1280
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 4: I was really impressed with his takedowns, his opportunistic submission

1281
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 4: that he hit there. That's a beautiful submission that you

1282
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: don't see a whole lot of people hit. It's become

1283
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 4: a little bit more popular at the high levels of

1284
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 4: the grappling circuit. I think the first time I saw

1285
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: it was maybe Nate Diaz way back in the day's

1286
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 4: arm and guillotine. But what you're doing is it's kind

1287
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 4: of like that hiyabagillotine. They call it the high risk

1288
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 4: guillotine as well, at that risk connecting to the shoulder

1289
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 4: and you're controlling the arm so there's almost no escape there.

1290
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 4: That's high level shit, Okay, that that is not easy

1291
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 4: to pull off. Those takedowns reputed. He's extremely technical and

1292
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 4: his ability to put it all together, and he's not

1293
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 4: just a grappler. I think that his striking looked very

1294
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 4: sharp as well. It's good enough to get him at

1295
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 4: the range that he needs to be and you know,

1296
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 4: he looks like an athlete, he moves like an athlete,

1297
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 4: so he says the right things. He's exciting when he

1298
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 4: gets the mic, and I definitely think Canada can have

1299
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: a big star in Mike Mallott.

1300
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 5: So it was great to see that performance.

1301
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 4: You know, I think was it last fight or the

1302
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 4: fight before that, he got a little too scrappy, maybe

1303
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 4: a little bit reckless, but still pulled off the wind

1304
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 4: show that he has heart, he's got determination, he's got

1305
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 4: a chin. So I'm excited, man, I'm excited for the

1306
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 4: Canadian fans. I think they definitely have something in Mike Mallat.

1307
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 5: No question, I wouldn't be surprised to see him headline

1308
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 5: maybe against a ranked welterweight later in the year in Canada.

1309
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 5: Huge win for UH for proper Mike Mallott, and I

1310
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 5: do think it goes without saying we miss your jiu

1311
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 5: jitsu analytics on the UFC telecast. All right, plenty more

1312
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 5: coming up on UFC two to eighty nine. As we

1313
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 5: recap it, let's get to Brian Petrie and our main

1314
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 5: event challenge.

1315
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: It's the main event challenge.

1316
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 7: Is how do you everything possible to win?

1317
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 5: The main event challenge John.

1318
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 3: Hannick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1319
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 5: That's Brian Petrie now joins us from his vacation in

1320
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 5: willm CA. See you, Handsome.

1321
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: Carolina, Brian is what they're calling me down here.

1322
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 5: I like that.

1323
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I hope they keep it in John, when you

1324
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 7: freaked out about the tech issues, because it's all staying

1325
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 7: I bottom mike and a stand and I'm like, I

1326
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 7: want to keep it professional. I have a Mac computer.

1327
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 7: I don't have a fucking dongle, and I lost my shit.

1328
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 7: My kids left from the beach like Dad's mad, We're

1329
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 7: getting out of here. So I was so bummed out

1330
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 7: and I'm seeing you relact that I react like that.

1331
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, we're human.

1332
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 5: We got it, man, we got We're good, and you

1333
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 5: sound great and you look great, and of course we're

1334
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 5: always happy to have you. And uh, Kenny, I hope

1335
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 5: you don't mind when I bring up some of the

1336
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 5: Boston stuff. But oftentimes I talk about like your Riyah

1337
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 5: Faber and Sacramento, right, that's the perfect city in which

1338
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 5: to be an MMA fighter at that point in time.

1339
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 5: And yeah, he's got a lot of charisma, you know.

1340
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 5: But they got by Sacramento Kings and nothing else. Like

1341
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 5: you think you're ry A Faber, some massive star in Boston.

1342
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 4: Wait are you telling me it's not like the Patriots

1343
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 4: at Kenny Florian, the Celtics, the Bruins.

1344
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 5: Is that what you're saying? Oh well, well, Bala Muhammad

1345
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 5: did a podcast over the weekend and he talked about

1346
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 5: being one of the best athletes in Chicago right now.

1347
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 5: And I don't deny him that, right He's compared himself

1348
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: to Justin Fields, and I think it's sort of a

1349
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 5: little bit of an act. And we love Balau, He's family.

1350
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 5: But it's hard in a big city and allows a

1351
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 5: lot of things to throw out the first pitch for

1352
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 5: the White Sox and the Cubs or whatever. It is

1353
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 5: hard in a big city. And when you're in a

1354
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 5: small nation like Canada that is so rabid about its

1355
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: mixed martial arts, the opportunity for these fighters like proper

1356
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 5: Mike Malot to change his life financially and otherwise is

1357
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 5: just insane. I'm just telling you, all right. I wanted

1358
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 5: to ask you about Dany Gay. If I kill Brian

1359
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 5: Petrie big win over Nate Land where And I hate

1360
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 5: to trot out sort of a lazy phrase like, oh,

1361
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 5: there are levels to this game, right, But a lot

1362
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 5: of people were wondering if Nate Land, where could level up?

1363
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 5: And I just thought Danny Gay fought a brilliant fight

1364
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 5: Ken Flow. I remember four or five Fighter meetings ago

1365
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 5: when he Gay even told us, oh, I'm starting to

1366
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 5: play with some more switches, some open stances, and great

1367
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 5: performance by Danny Gay. Brian Petrie, what did you think

1368
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 5: about the featherweights on pay per view?

1369
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 7: I mean, incredible fight. We all knew it was gonna

1370
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 7: be Nate. The Train's a stud. I mean, listen, I

1371
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 7: thought Nathan Train, obviously there are levels to this, and

1372
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 7: you got Danny Ge who really leveled up his own

1373
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 7: game with the switching.

1374
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: Big power.

1375
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 7: Horrible match up for Nathan Train, by the way, too,

1376
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 7: some of those elbows, some of those shots Nate was

1377
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 7: landing would probably hurt someone else. But Dany Gay is

1378
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 7: so built different, he doesn't get hurt. He's a study.

1379
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 7: The only time I've ever seen him get hurt was

1380
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 7: in the body by Ed some barbosa. That can happen

1381
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 7: to anybody. The incredible fight. I think Nate's right there.

1382
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 7: His personality is got takehim. There is the world championship material.

1383
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 7: Is he gonna hold one forty five belt? You know,

1384
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 7: maybe maybe not, but he's gonna be a guy that

1385
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 7: we're gonna all want to see. Love him at the

1386
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 7: press conference. But Danny gah, Yeah, those switches that confused

1387
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 7: Nate and dropped him were a thing of beauty. I

1388
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 7: loved it, and you're right. I think there are levels,

1389
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 7: and I think Ega leveled up. I'm curious to see

1390
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 7: him start touching top ten, top five guys again and

1391
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 7: see where he's at.

1392
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 5: Keddy. This was Nate land Where's seventh UFC appearance. It

1393
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 5: was actually my first time meeting him or talking to

1394
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 5: him or calling his fight. Decorated former M one Global

1395
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 5: champion accomplished a lot in Russia, but this night belonged

1396
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 5: to Danny Gay, a guy who's twice headlined for the UFC.

1397
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 5: The guys stood that have beat Danny Gay recently, right,

1398
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 5: He lost two main events, I believe to Josh Emmitt

1399
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 5: and Calvin Cater. He also lost a mob sar Ivloyev.

1400
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 5: But where do you stand on Danny Gay at present?

1401
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 5: And ultimately what do you think about him moving forward?

1402
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 5: Here at forty five, I think he's trending upwards.

1403
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: You know, when you look at his performance here against

1404
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 4: Nate Land, where in my opinion, I saw some new

1405
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 4: things that I haven't seen out of him before. Always

1406
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 4: has the power that will stay with him for sure.

1407
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 4: Now how do we use that power? How do we

1408
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 4: get those angles? How do we confuse? Well, we're seeing

1409
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 4: that now with the shifting stances, he's looking for angles.

1410
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,919
Speaker 4: He's been working with a buddy of mine, Jimmy Gifford,

1411
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 4: originally from Boston, So I know he's been really working

1412
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 4: on his hands. He's blessed with power and he also

1413
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 4: you know, he has that presilient to black belt to

1414
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 4: fall back on. He's tough to hold down. So he's

1415
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 4: definitely making improvements and doing the right things to stay

1416
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 4: relevant in that division, no question.

1417
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 5: All right, congratulations to Mark Andre Barrio, big win over

1418
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 5: Eric Anders, and I do believe that Anders remains game.

1419
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 5: I just think there are some limitations to his overall game.

1420
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 5: But I did think that it was a spirited effort

1421
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,440
Speaker 5: out of Eric Anders, and I think the broadcast reflected

1422
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 5: that Jasmine Jazz the busiest part of a six and

1423
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 5: zero night for Canada with Amonds a hobby, Kyle Nelson

1424
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 5: in a must win situation over Blake Builder and Steve

1425
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 5: r Seg. Everybody in Perth and across Australia knows how

1426
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 5: good this guy is and now the rest of the

1427
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 5: UFC world does as well. Don't you worry. We're going

1428
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 5: to get to the no contest here coming up shortly,

1429
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 5: but let us update the results after UFC two to

1430
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 5: eighty nine. Good week for both of you guys, as

1431
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 5: you continue to hit him straight peatree four and two

1432
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 5: on the week plus three hundred and ten dollars. You

1433
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 5: had the three unit trigger on Mark Andre Barrio, the

1434
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 5: hit on Charles ol laverit plus money, missed on Land

1435
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 5: where you took a shot on him at plus money,

1436
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 5: and you did give out a wayward prelim pick on

1437
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 5: Blake Builder. But overall, talk to me about your night

1438
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 5: at the window UFC two eighty nine. We did.

1439
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta admit something.

1440
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 7: I'm an honest guy, I'm a bit of a fraud

1441
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna go ahead and name drop here your

1442
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 7: boy Evan Longoria. DM ME said, Hey, big fan of

1443
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 7: the pot. Everything like that. He goes the only thing.

1444
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 7: You bet against Benny, Like, what's up?

1445
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 5: Man?

1446
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 7: You got to go Benny, so I said, listen, I

1447
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 7: actually took Benny, but I went opposite Florian part of

1448
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 7: our game. So I did have Benny dar uche. I

1449
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 7: had a fifty dollars bet with a buddy of mine

1450
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 7: side bet that Benny was good. If anyone's going to

1451
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 7: submit anybody, Benny would submit Charles. Obviously that didn't happen.

1452
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 7: So even though I'm getting points in our game from Charles,

1453
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 7: I'm a bit of a fraud because I did bet

1454
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 7: Benny and lose.

1455
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 3: So I want to make that obvious. But I did

1456
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: hit ersag.

1457
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 7: I think that extra boy is a stud I did

1458
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 7: a lot of tape study on him. I think he's

1459
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 7: clean on the feed, he's smooth, good on the I

1460
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 7: mean when he gets on the ground, man, he's slick.

1461
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 7: Positionally he needs to work on some stuff, but like

1462
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 7: he'll jump on your neck, your arm, whatever, he's great.

1463
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 7: And yeah, so we did. Okay, we're up, slight up.

1464
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 7: I don't think we crack a full Uni. I can't

1465
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 7: live that North Carolina.

1466
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 3: What sucks. But other than that, I think we're okay, all.

1467
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 5: Right, And on the team Florian side. I mean, this

1468
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 5: kid just continues to stripe the ball folks four and

1469
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 5: one that included a three unit whack on Mike Malot

1470
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 5: and that pick in retrospect, Kenny looks extremely sharp because

1471
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 5: Mike Malatt was not minus two to eighty right, he

1472
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 5: was minus two hundred fu gets game as fuck, You're peatried.

1473
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 5: Three unit play on Mark Andre Barrio looks very sharp

1474
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 5: as well at the short price. Only miss for Kenny

1475
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 5: on the night. As we mentioned, Benny daru So Florian

1476
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 5: plus four hundred and seventy dollars plus two hundred and

1477
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 5: fifty five dollars on the year, and Petrie creeping back

1478
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 5: to the black as well minus twenty four twenty no

1479
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 5: contest on the featured prelum between Nasordini, Mabov and Chris

1480
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 5: Curtis sort of another tough non w for Florian as

1481
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 5: far as the main event challenge is concerned. I had

1482
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 5: a chance to spend some time with Chris after the

1483
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 5: fact ten stitches partial cordial abrasion, and as much as

1484
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 5: he wanted to stay at a fight, he was not winning.

1485
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 5: Can't fight with one eye. What were your thoughts on

1486
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 5: your boys? No contests over the weekend.

1487
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I talked to him afterwards. I didn't talk

1488
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,919
Speaker 7: to him much before the fight. I talked to him afterwards,

1489
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 7: and you know, I love Chris, but he is you know,

1490
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 7: he's a guy that's won a lot and he's a

1491
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 7: little bit of a sore loser. People get after him

1492
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 7: on social media and he doesn't like it. However, he's

1493
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 7: taking this pretty well. He's very upset. Listen, if you

1494
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 7: get cut, you get ahead butt, you can't fight. You

1495
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 7: can't fight this first time in forty fights there or none.

1496
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 7: But he's so pissed off that he got taken down

1497
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 7: because his glove got caught in his shorts. Yeah, he's like,

1498
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 7: I lost my perfect fucking stat because my gloves got

1499
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 7: caught my short. He's like, this guy should not have

1500
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 7: taken me down. He didn't feel strong in there. He's

1501
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 7: strong when he's got the plumb, but body locks were nothing.

1502
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 3: So that was our conversation.

1503
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 7: I just told him keep his head up because sometimes

1504
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 7: he gets emotional after stuff like this, and he seems

1505
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 7: to be doing good. I told him he's got a

1506
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 7: baby on the way. Enjoy your girl's pregnancy, Joy your

1507
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 7: you fought a lot in this past year and a half.

1508
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: Take a beat. You know, you don't need to rush

1509
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: back in there.

1510
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: Take a beat.

1511
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 7: But I know he's gonna be training the next week.

1512
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 7: But uh yeah, I mean I saw some hate online.

1513
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 7: I saw some you know, a couple of my buddies

1514
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 7: even texted me, you know, maybe a little boozed up going.

1515
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 7: If he says he can continue, why can he continue?

1516
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 7: It was like, so you have never obviously been hitting

1517
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 7: the head with anything before. The guy's gotta cut of

1518
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 7: his eyes. Eyes was seasoned up a little bit because

1519
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 7: panic's setting in. Because hers I was like, we'll give

1520
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 7: you a minute, but we got to go. It's reminds

1521
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 7: you of Jeremy Stevens yeay Rorigez out of Mexico. The

1522
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 7: eye is a season shut and he's trying to open

1523
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 7: it up. I mean he used Jason Herzog's shirt to

1524
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 7: try to get it out of his eyes.

1525
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was thought.

1526
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be in the double digits,

1527
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 4: you know, like even more so like in the twenties,

1528
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 4: or just because it looked really bad and it was

1529
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 4: a bad spot and.

1530
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 7: It wasn't like super wide like you see, but it

1531
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 7: was really dense and deep and like and when you

1532
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 7: see posters on social media, it's a nasty thing.

1533
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1534
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 7: I was bummed out for him, obviously, but you know,

1535
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 7: he's always gonna have my support, and yeah, that he

1536
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 7: wasn't doing so good, and I was, I thought, really,

1537
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 7: you know, he came out aggressive, which was great. That

1538
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 7: was something that he's plagued him, and Imanov was ready

1539
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 7: for that second round. Obviously he was touching the body more.

1540
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 7: The big trigger for me was how was Imanoff going

1541
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 7: to respond the third round? Because Cardio has fallen off before.

1542
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 7: He's obviously went five rounds of Strickland. But that was

1543
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 7: a trigger for me. But yeah, I feel for my

1544
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 7: guy and hopefully he takes a beat. Maybe he comes

1545
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 7: back in December, January, enjoys his kid and uh yeah,

1546
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 7: and we'll get back to it.

1547
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, second kid on the way in October. He told

1548
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 5: me he probably wasn't going to compete until December, but

1549
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 5: we'll see how it goes. For for Chris Curtis, I

1550
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 5: think very relevant a middleway, but I thought not Sordini.

1551
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 5: Mabob looked out standing and I'm really now excited to

1552
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 5: see his next fight because I feel of the two guys, respectfully,

1553
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 5: I almost feel worse free Mobob because that really really

1554
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 5: look like like it was going to be a w

1555
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 5: You know, all right, let us get to UFC Fight Night,

1556
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 5: But Tory versus Candidate are coming up this weekend from

1557
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 5: the UFC Apex. Now in me, Nate, you're a full

1558
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 5: disclosure because we are nothing if not honest with this audience.

1559
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 5: But DraftKings did not have the complete fight card odds

1560
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 5: out as of this taping, so these prices not exact

1561
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 5: with the exception of the main event that is live

1562
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 5: on DraftKings Sportsbook right now, but these odds will be

1563
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 5: very close to my man Johnnyavello's numbers. So here we go.

1564
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 5: Tenth UFC appearance for the thirty six year old Howny

1565
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 5: Barcelos minus two twenty five Miles John's plus one ninety

1566
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 5: so Barcelos brid knocked out by Umar and Nrmago Mattow

1567
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 5: his last time out in January. Miles John's has momentum,

1568
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 5: he's won three or four, hasn't fought since a win

1569
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 5: over Vince Morales last November.

1570
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: Your thoughts O, honey, Ohannellos.

1571
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, I have to say, Yeah, our producer,

1572
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 5: Cody Merrows segment Merrow Seconds is going to come back

1573
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 5: next week or in the not too distant future, but

1574
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 5: I think here two four. One of our listeners messaged

1575
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 5: me privately about that. He said, Cody's too good at

1576
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 5: pronunciations to do the Pronunciation of the week. He said,

1577
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 5: You've got to leave the main challenge with the pronunciation

1578
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 5: of the world and give it to Peetree because it's

1579
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 5: because that's not necessarily his struggs, like Cody's fucking learning

1580
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 5: Brazilian guy. So I think that might be part of

1581
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 5: your new exercise.

1582
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: I'll do whatever I'll do. Listen.

1583
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 7: I took Spanish, won twice in high school, so we

1584
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 7: know where we're at at with me.

1585
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 3: Okay, but as far as this friend, listen, Barcel is

1586
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: thirty six years old.

1587
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 7: At one at one thirty five, I know that's an

1588
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 7: old Everyone brings it up that. I mean, Listen, cutting

1589
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 7: that much weight, he is not a small thirty five

1590
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 7: or either. Cutting my weight at that age is a

1591
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 7: little dicey for me. And he's fought everyone.

1592
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: I know.

1593
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 7: His resume is great. He's got good wrestling, he's got

1594
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 7: good jiu jitsu, he's got big power. But his last

1595
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 7: couple of fights, even though they're against high level guys

1596
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 7: besides maybe Danny Henry or Victor Henry, excuse me.

1597
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 3: You know, he's been hitt a little bit. He's been

1598
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 3: shaking a little bit again against highlevel guys. Miles John.

1599
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 7: There's no volume there on this guy, but great wrestling

1600
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 7: and big, big power. So I just see a fight

1601
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 7: where Barcelos is going to be trying to be active

1602
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 7: because he does.

1603
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 2: Throw a lot of strikes.

1604
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 7: But Miles John's got that game changer with his right

1605
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 7: hand and he can stop Barcellos' takedowns. And when you're

1606
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 7: hanging plus one ninety on me and I got this

1607
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 7: huge deficit, I'm going to go dog here. I think

1608
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 7: barcelos confidence is waning. I think Miles John's confidence is

1609
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 7: on the rise. You got a young kid here with big,

1610
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 7: big power, you know, and good wrestling jobs as well.

1611
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 7: So give me Miles John at the dog price.

1612
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 5: And I also remind you guys, as we get closer

1613
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 5: to the minus one thousand armand Syrukian that you can

1614
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,839
Speaker 5: always abstain if you don't like the prices at one

1615
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 5: fight per exercise kem flow. How many of Barcelos minus

1616
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 5: two twenty five Miles John's plus one ninety? Who do

1617
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 5: you like? Yeah?

1618
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: Interesting fight between two semi similar fighters. And I agree

1619
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 4: with everything Brian said there.

1620
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 5: How many? You know there's times where early.

1621
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 4: On in his career, when I saw him, it seems

1622
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 4: like his striking was sharper than it is now. I

1623
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 4: don't know if it's a confidence thing. Maybe he's got

1624
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 4: some lagging in nagging injury, but I don't know. I

1625
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 4: Can he win this fight?

1626
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1627
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 4: Sure, But I think Miles Johns has the background and

1628
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 4: he's got the power, like Brian said, on the feet

1629
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 4: where he can definitely pull off a win here. I

1630
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 4: think Barcellos's best path to victory here is probably trying

1631
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 4: to out wrestle John's. Is that enough to win round

1632
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 4: after round after round? I don't think so. I think

1633
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 4: this is a juicy number for Miles Johns. I think

1634
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 4: there's a lot of value there. And I'm with you

1635
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 4: on this one, Brian. I was I think you were

1636
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 4: going to go the other way, but it's too shop.

1637
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 5: It's yes, I'm not suggesting that the Anakin Florian podcast

1638
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 5: always moves lines, but I will say with complete veracity

1639
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 5: to you folks that more often than not, when both

1640
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 5: Kenny and Brian see value on a fighter in that

1641
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 5: plus one ninety range, it closes significantly lower than that.

1642
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 5: So we'll see where Johnny Vello and the folks open

1643
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 5: Miles John's. But clearly both of these guys see some

1644
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 5: sort of value on Miles John's at plus one ninety

1645
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 5: all right, at featherweight. Brian will lead with you on

1646
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 5: this one as well. Pat sabatin he mightus one eighty

1647
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 5: five Lucas Almeta is plus one fifty Sabatini out of Philadelphia, PA,

1648
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 5: four and one out of the shoot here in the UFC,

1649
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 5: coming off the lost though to Damon Jackson nine months ago,

1650
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 5: and now he draws the fourteen and one Lucas Almada.

1651
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 7: Man I was so high on past Sabatini, and maybe

1652
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 7: I still am. But the Damon Jackson also solidly thought

1653
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 7: it was a good matchup for me. He just got

1654
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 7: starts on the feed, looked like he couldn't take a punch.

1655
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 7: Everything was clipping him, everything was following him. Damon Jackson's

1656
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 7: a great fighter, but he's not known for like this

1657
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 7: worldly power. Sabatini obviously is a guy that wants to

1658
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 7: get the fight to the ground, wants to grapp he

1659
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 7: wants to submit. You volume very low with the striking's

1660
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 7: not known for his striking comes from mytt Philly camp,

1661
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 7: which is very tough. Jeremia Wells is out of there,

1662
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 7: who's doing great things right now. And Lucas I made

1663
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 7: a fourteen to one debut in UFC look pretty good.

1664
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 7: You know, he's he's kind of good everywhere. Primarily he

1665
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 7: likes to stay on the feet, but you know he

1666
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 7: has he has everything right. But the competition level is

1667
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 7: very low. He's got a couple of good wins in there,

1668
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 7: but when you look at the record, you're like, can

1669
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 7: you adjust this guy? I wanted to ride Almeta because

1670
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 7: I want to fade Sabatini because I'm a little worried

1671
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 7: about the Damon Jackson. But I'm gonna get past Sabatini

1672
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 7: one more chance. I do think this guy's very good.

1673
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 7: I think he's a dog in there. I think he

1674
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 7: gets his fight to the ground, controls on the ground,

1675
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 7: implements his game, which is just control. Look for a

1676
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 7: submission minus twenty five is not something I'm running to

1677
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 7: the window.

1678
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 3: To bet.

1679
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 7: When being honest with you, I thought this might be

1680
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 7: a little lower since Sabatin you looked did not look

1681
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 7: great at last time out.

1682
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 3: But give me the Philly guy, give me Philly tough

1683
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 3: past Sabatini.

1684
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 5: I like this vacation petre mode and the tank talk.

1685
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 5: Can you tank top? I mean, can you imagine this

1686
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 5: unit walking down the beach today?

1687
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 7: I struck the beach yesterday, man, I was strutting the beach,

1688
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 7: just absolute three inch unit.

1689
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 5: We'arning the San Antonio Spurs jersey today, So.

1690
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 7: It's a so you know, I h since I Royals disbanded,

1691
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 7: we became the Sacramento Kings. So I bought a Jason

1692
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 7: Williams white chocolate jersey, uh to wear for here, right,

1693
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 7: just because you know repping, And it was by one

1694
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 7: get one half off. I'm a bargain hunter, so we

1695
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 7: got the old we got the robin on the spurs here.

1696
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. Ken fil Lucas Almeida thirty two years of

1697
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 5: age out of sal Polo one to zero in the UFC.

1698
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 5: That debut came more than a year ago. He's had

1699
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 5: fights go away against Zubert to Hugod last October, Andre

1700
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 5: Feeley this February. Then he was supposed to face a

1701
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 5: Keem Dawadu in Canada last weekend. So he's fourteen and one,

1702
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 5: but you know, hadn't fought in a year and jury's

1703
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 5: still out. What are your thoughts on Almeida here against Sabatini.

1704
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that can hurt him, you know, not being

1705
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 4: active like that. I think it certainly can affect a fighter.

1706
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 4: But I do think he's got some skills. This dude

1707
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 4: is aggressive.

1708
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1709
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 4: He's not trying to hit you. He's trying to hurt

1710
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 4: you every single time out. Uh, He's got some pop

1711
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 4: in his punches in boxing range. I think that's where

1712
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 4: Sabatini really needs to be careful. I also think, you know,

1713
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 4: getting off to a good start I think is going

1714
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 4: to benefit him here against Salbatini. Sometimes I feel like

1715
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 4: if Sabatini doesn't get into his rhythm, he just gets

1716
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 4: thrown off and then just kind of calls it a night.

1717
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 4: In some ways, I think grappling wise, he can get

1718
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 4: some things done here, and I do think he's got

1719
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 4: some power, but he's a little too stiff for me

1720
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 4: on the feet at this stage of the game. And

1721
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 4: like Brian mentioned, you know that last fight against Damon Jackson,

1722
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 4: that's one of those fights that you kind of want

1723
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 4: to erase off the record.

1724
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 5: It was definitely not a good performance for him.

1725
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 4: He was dominated really everywhere, and I could see Lucas

1726
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 4: Almeida going in there, catching him, getting into boxing range,

1727
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 4: landing shots and winning this fight. I know he hasn't

1728
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 4: been very active three fights in a row that have

1729
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 4: been called off, but I like the Brazilion.

1730
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 5: Here give me Lucas Almeida for the upside. I think

1731
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 5: there's a lot of value. Lucas al made a plus

1732
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 5: one fifty for Ken Flow and that brings us to

1733
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 5: a featured battle one hundred and eighty five pounds Gloucester,

1734
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 5: England's Christian Leroy Duncan minus one sixty five Armann Petrozion

1735
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,919
Speaker 5: plus one forty CLD undefeated at eight to z tko

1736
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 5: of Douche Goo Tadora bitch at his UFC Debutorvich did

1737
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 5: get injured early in that fight, so a lot of

1738
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 5: us looking forward to seeing more of Duncan on this

1739
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 5: type of stage. Petrosian the Armenian muy Thai Striker Contender

1740
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 5: Series Alum look at a spring what would be a

1741
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 5: pretty big upset here on paper. What are your thoughts,

1742
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 5: Brian Petrie CLD versus Petrosian.

1743
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 7: My old Google eyes are out again on some of

1744
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 7: these new guys. Because Christian Lerod Duncan, this dude's good man.

1745
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 7: He reminds me of Jimmy Maniwell back in the day.

1746
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 7: Maniwell refused UFC a few times, came in and then

1747
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 7: everyone thought this guy's gonna be the champion.

1748
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 3: Didn't work out.

1749
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 7: But Leroy Duncan, good striker, good grappling, knows how to

1750
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 7: mix it up. He's six and zero, which is still

1751
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 7: pretty young, so I don't want to go get ahead

1752
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 7: of myself. Obviously looked okay against Dusco. Got hurt in

1753
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 7: that fight. Ama Portrojan though, good striker, good volume every fight,

1754
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 7: he lands over a hundred strikes right, His cardio is

1755
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 7: really working. His anti grappling's pretty good, but I just

1756
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 7: don't see there's power there. He's not really knocking. But yeah,

1757
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 7: last knockout he had was on the tennistries. All these

1758
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 7: fights are close with decisions, and I think Lever Duncan

1759
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 7: could put a pace on him and can nix everything up.

1760
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 7: I think that's what he does well, grappling to striking.

1761
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 7: He's got big power, he's super athletic as well, has

1762
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 7: a whole country behind him. People are really hyping this

1763
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 7: kid and out of England. Minus was sixty five is

1764
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 7: a price I would love to pay, and I'm gonna

1765
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 7: pay it heavy. Should I go extra units? Does vacation

1766
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 7: Brian have the balls to go extra unis?

1767
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 3: He does? Give me four four Leroy Duncan.

1768
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 7: Baby, it's gonna be a close fight, but Barry ot

1769
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 7: Anders I knew it was gonna be a close fight

1770
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 7: as well. Sometimes you gotta risk it for the biscuit. Baby,

1771
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 7: Kenny Floor doesn't miss fucking fights. This guy's going four

1772
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 7: and one. I gotta do goddamn something, So give me

1773
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 7: Christian Leroy Duncan for unit.

1774
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 5: That is a six hundred and sixty dollars wage. Here

1775
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 5: on Christian Leroy Duncan to return four hundred dollars Ken Flow,

1776
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 5: You well know Anakin Floran podcast contributor Sean shean big

1777
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 5: fan of Christian Leroy Duncan. We'll see how he handles

1778
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 5: the second you start. What he had for us on

1779
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 5: the eighty five ers. Yeah, and I could see why

1780
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 5: I could see why Brian and Sean are high on him.

1781
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 5: He's an excellent athlete.

1782
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 4: He moves really well, he knows how to put it

1783
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 4: all together really well, and I think this is where

1784
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 4: he's going to have the advantage over someone like Petrojian

1785
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 4: awesomemoy Thai guy. But it almost like he needs you

1786
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 4: to stay in front of him and engage with him

1787
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 4: in that muy Thai rhythm, and because of that, it

1788
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 4: seems like it throws him off a little bit grappling wise.

1789
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 4: Obviously he's gonna He's not going to have the skills

1790
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 4: of Duncan, but I do think that striking wise he

1791
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 4: can post some problems. I'm not as confident as Brian here,

1792
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 4: but I do like Christian Leroy Duncan for the win,

1793
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 4: his ability to mix things up and out point him.

1794
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 4: I think it's really going to be the difference here.

1795
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 4: But I'm excited to see where he goes in the

1796
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 4: potential for this kid in this division. I really like

1797
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 4: the fight. I like him, I like Petrosian. He's fun

1798
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 4: to watch stylistically, so see how that one goes. It'll

1799
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 4: lead into the comin event a lightweight. We'll lead with

1800
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 4: Ken Flow on this he ranked armand Sarukian minus one

1801
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 4: thousand against Joaquim Silva, who is plus six point fifty.

1802
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 4: Saraikion Kenny has won six of seventy lone loss, of course,

1803
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: a memorable main event against Mataujs Gamart last June. On

1804
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 4: the other side, you have the UFC tested netto b JJ.

1805
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 4: A lot of expectations on this kid really since his

1806
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 4: UFC debut in twenty fifteen, a lot of power. But

1807
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 4: this would be the win of his career and he

1808
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 4: would be in the top ten next week. Ken Flow,

1809
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 4: your thoughts on the co main events Saraikian and Silva, Yeah,

1810
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 4: you know, I think Joaquim Silva is you know, he's built,

1811
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 4: He's got some serious power. I think he could do

1812
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 4: some things on the feet. But I think Serrukion it

1813
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 4: just has too many skills. You know, you talk about

1814
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 4: his wrestling and you know, his striking, his movement. It

1815
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 4: is extremely good man. And I think that him getting

1816
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 4: together the American Top Team, working with all the guys

1817
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 4: down there, I think it's only going to make him

1818
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 4: that much better. I think there's some pressure on him

1819
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 4: in that he's just such a big favorite here but

1820
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 4: what I'd like to see is a finish out of Serukian.

1821
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 4: I think he can get it done, you know, no question,

1822
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 4: I think he wins this fight. But I think he's

1823
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 4: got to He's got it's got to be more than

1824
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 4: just a decision win here. I'd like to see him

1825
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 4: go out there, look dominant, get a finish and kind

1826
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 4: of make even more people excited about him and when

1827
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 4: he competes.

1828
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 5: So but pretty easy, hear Seruki on. This is a

1829
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 5: tricky one though, in so far as you have this

1830
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 5: big lead, right, and so it's a thousand bucks to

1831
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 5: pay a hundred, right, And I'm so reckless right that

1832
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 5: I'd be like, dude, five k right. But I'm a

1833
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 5: I'm a Joaquim Silva fan. I'm a Sarukian fan, of course,

1834
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 5: but uh yeah, a thousand bucks to pay one hundred?

1835
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 5: What do you got for us? BP? What do you

1836
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 5: got for us? On the coomake listen?

1837
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 3: That's the first thing I thought too.

1838
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 7: I mean, I really dove into Joaqum Silva all last

1839
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 7: night trying to find an angle to play him here.

1840
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,839
Speaker 7: I just don't know if I can. He's cut from stone.

1841
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 7: He looked like me on the beach yesterday.

1842
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 5: Just short and right this.

1843
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 7: Guy, and he's got big, big power. But you know

1844
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 7: he hasn't punto grappling in a while. Last him phut

1845
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 7: of grappler was Jered Gordon Jerk Warren took about three times.

1846
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,560
Speaker 7: Time before that, I got taken out five times. Serroukion

1847
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 7: is a different kind of animal here. And I love

1848
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 7: what Kenny said, your minus one thousand, you got everyone

1849
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 7: talking about you as a young kid.

1850
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 3: You have to finish.

1851
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 7: I think Silva's cardio has really improved. I mean, having

1852
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 7: all those muscles, it's hard to you know, it's a

1853
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 7: broken record. Everyone you know you're beefed up. It's hard

1854
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 7: to maintain that. But it's improved. But I think Serrouke

1855
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 7: is gonna push a pace. He's gonna take him down.

1856
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 7: He's gonna smother him. I like a TK, I like

1857
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 7: a submission for Sucin, and I like it has to

1858
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 7: be kind of early as well. Silva is dangerous first round,

1859
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 7: so maybe take your time, but wear him out, wear

1860
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 7: out the arms, foam of blood, take him out second around.

1861
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 7: I like second round finished with Sukin. I wish I

1862
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 7: could get to that number on Silva because I need

1863
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 7: to come back, but you know I got to pick

1864
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 7: winners at this point.

1865
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 5: All right, Arman salary Kan minus one thousand right now

1866
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 5: in the Komina Panic at Shoakim Silva, and we'll go

1867
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 5: right back to you, Petri. On the main event, number

1868
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 5: three versus number four in the middleweight division, Marvin Vttori

1869
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 5: and Jared Cannoneer both minus won ten. So when I

1870
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 5: first sent you guys the odds the DraftKings Sportsbook odds,

1871
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 5: Marvin Vttori was minus one forty five line movement. It's

1872
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 5: a pick him right now. Both meant have previously challenged

1873
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 5: for the title. Cannoneer last year during International Fight Week,

1874
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 5: Butori back in twenty twenty one. Brian say it all

1875
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 5: the time since like twenty seventeen, only two men in

1876
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,879
Speaker 5: MMA who have beaten Marvin Vttori, Adasanya and Robert Whitaker.

1877
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 5: Vittori had a big win over Roman d'lidze in March

1878
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 5: at UFC two eighty six, right back at it Here

1879
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 5: Familiar Territory in a main event against the Killer Goerrilla

1880
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 5: Jared Cannoneer. He defeated Sean Strickland via split in a

1881
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 5: main event last December, who wins the main event and

1882
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 5: how do they get it done?

1883
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 7: Both these guys are very similar to me and Kennonear's

1884
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 7: got a little more power, a little more finishes marv

1885
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 7: Vatory obviously he's not known for his heavy power. But

1886
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 7: they're both coming off fights where I kind of you

1887
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 7: could argue they might have lost. I mean, Delite gave

1888
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 7: Marvinturia hell a fight. Shaun stray can outland it. Jeri

1889
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 7: Kennedy every can near land the harder shots. It's an

1890
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 7: interesting thing here. Both these guys are obviously wanting to

1891
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 7: get another shot. Is he don't really know if that's

1892
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 7: a reality for a tory, but they both land a

1893
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 7: lot of volume. Then I saw kennoneer and he looks

1894
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 7: to be in. He looks leaner than I've seen him.

1895
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 7: And then to be in, I mean he's always incredible shape.

1896
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 7: I mean, this guy looks diced up, I mean dicey

1897
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 7: this week and between me, obviously he's going to.

1898
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna steal that, ye do it? You have to

1899
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 5: tell this guy looks dicey, like well, I've ever looked icey,

1900
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 5: Kenny tells me at one point in my life before

1901
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 5: I die right, It's more of a philosophical thing, like

1902
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 5: every man should at least get to like his most shreddedself.

1903
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 5: So maybe in my sixties, Kenny, that that passed me.

1904
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 7: At twenty one, I was just on a beer and

1905
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 7: Rahm and noodle diet, so I was doing okay. But no, John,

1906
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 7: I meant to mention your draftings ad with the dive

1907
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 7: in the pool was one of the funniest things I've

1908
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 7: ever seen, by the way, That was the die but

1909
01:30:58,600 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 7: the dive was awesome.

1910
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 5: Anyway, See the new commercial we just shot in Boston.

1911
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 3: If you like I Can't Wait, Can't Wait, they're very similar.

1912
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 7: They land a lot of strikes, and you know, and

1913
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 7: and Cannoneer is now becoming more selective, but he is,

1914
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 7: you know, heavy handed, and he does push a pace.

1915
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 7: Now he's got the car deal. You don't got to

1916
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 7: worry about it. But Tori's got a CARO two five rounds.

1917
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 7: I think the lake Kicks are really gonna be a

1918
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 7: factory for Cannoneer. Marva Tory just doesn't check Lake Kicks.

1919
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 7: Look at the end of Yatt of Sidify. He's in

1920
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 7: Vegas now he's working with some guys. But I just

1921
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 7: Canneer kicks hard and he's made of just something different, right,

1922
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 7: So I like cannonere by decision. I think the best

1923
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 7: play here Fio's decision check the box, yes, because I

1924
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,719
Speaker 7: don't think of these guys are gonna finish anybody. Barna

1925
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 7: Toury's got a cement blockhead. That's that guy's not going anywhere.

1926
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 7: But give me cannon near here. I think he's looked

1927
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 7: a little more cleaner his last few fights, and I

1928
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 7: like him to win the decision, and I see it

1929
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 7: being competitive and then him kind of slipping away with it.

1930
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 7: So give me Jack Kandeer. I was excited when he's

1931
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 7: not plus money. Now we're now it's moving, so I

1932
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 7: gotta get on that.

1933
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 5: I know I probably should give you that price that

1934
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 5: I first sent, but you know what I'm not gonna do.

1935
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 5: I'll do it ken Flow pick him fight in the

1936
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 5: main event Marvin VCTORI minus won ten same price on Cannoneer.

1937
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 4: Which way you go? Yeah, very interesting. I think that Cannoneer.

1938
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 4: You know, both guys are capable of winning this fight.

1939
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 4: This is a very close one, very difficult one to pick.

1940
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 4: Cannon Ear does have five round experience, as does Vittori.

1941
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 4: Vittori is one of those guys that is going to

1942
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 4: move forward. You know that sometimes Cannoneer doesn't throw the

1943
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 4: volume that you want to see. Now, sometimes it actually

1944
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 4: works to his advantage because you know he is efficient,

1945
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 4: he's trying to reserve his energy, he's looking for his

1946
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 4: spots to go. But again, someone like Marvin Vactor, he's

1947
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 4: going to push the action, push the fight. That might

1948
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 4: be the difference between him winning and losing certain rounds.

1949
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 4: So I see this going to decision. You know, if

1950
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 4: someone finishes this fight, it's probably Cannoneer. He does have power,

1951
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 4: I think, to put anyone out. But Vittori does have

1952
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 4: a chin from hell. He's got that big head. I

1953
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 4: think it's gonna be tough to take him out. But

1954
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 4: I do think this goes as a same and if

1955
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 4: that's the case, I think victory moving forward, looking for

1956
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 4: looking for takedowns if you can hit that especially late.

1957
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 4: He's always he's always he always comes in very well conditioned,

1958
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 4: and I think if you can mix in some takedowns

1959
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 4: here and there, get some of those up against the cage,

1960
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 4: like he likes to win some of that clinch fighting

1961
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 4: against cannon Ear. He can win this fight. Cannon Ear

1962
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 4: is the more dangerous guy, but as far as consistency

1963
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 4: and winning rounds, I'm leaning towards Victori. That may change

1964
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 4: as we go out through the week. I reserve that, right,

1965
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 4: damn it, but I'm gonna lean the way of victory.

1966
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Speaker 5: But very interesting fight, all right, dissension on the main event,

1967
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 5: which we absolutely love Brian Petrie. Before we let you go,

1968
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 5: would you like to wet your beak with anything else?

1969
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah? Oh yeah.

1970
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 7: So I'm too over the last two weeks, so maybe

1971
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 7: I should, you know, bench it for this week, but

1972
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 7: that's not my style. Listen, there's a lot of guys

1973
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 7: I like. There's a lot of good fights. Manuel Toarez

1974
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 7: is a stunt. Hiver's motive is gonna be a banger.

1975
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 7: But I gotta go with Zougas Zuomoulof because of the hair.

1976
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 7: His last fight got canceled. He came out like a

1977
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 7: fucking superstar, high fiving people.

1978
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 3: This dude's got an.

1979
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 7: Incredible record split decision losses to everybody, and he's fighting

1980
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 7: Fleet bay Burns, who I think is not on his level.

1981
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 7: I like Zaugas here to kick it off. And he's

1982
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 7: at like a minus one fifty. I got you know,

1983
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 7: I had to bury that line. That's not a DraftKings line,

1984
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 7: but uh went and got that line. But give me

1985
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 7: Zaugu's maybe the hair is gonna be flowing.

1986
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: We like it.

1987
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 5: We like it all right, Jealgus chumagoulav a prelim selection

1988
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 5: for Brian Petrie to round out his pitch for UFC

1989
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 5: Fight Night, but Tori versus Cannon area. You can see

1990
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 5: it live on ESPN and ESPN Plus if you want

1991
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 5: more from Brian Petrie and why would you not at

1992
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 5: Brian Petrie MMA, appreciate your contributions. Cab. We'll talk to

1993
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 5: you next week. Boy.

1994
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

1995
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Speaker 3: Sorry for the audio about the Mike and Kenny. I'm

1996
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Speaker 3: three hours away.

1997
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Speaker 2: Man.

1998
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 3: If you want to go strut the beach with me,

1999
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 3: you let me know. I'm here. All league, Let's see

2000
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 3: you boys, I'll see you.

2001
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Speaker 5: Just don't bring Impa Hassanga and I to feel like

2002
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 5: we're a lesser species, you know. All right. That's gonna

2003
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 5: do it for today. We'll be back later in the week,

2004
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Speaker 5: likely with some sort of fight or interview here on

2005
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Speaker 5: the DraftKings Network. Thank you all, for indulging us today.

2006
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Speaker 5: If you want more on the show, check out Anna

2007
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Speaker 5: florinpodcast dot com. Kenny florianmarstial Arts dot com is also live.

2008
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Speaker 5: Also look up August Integrated Defense. Do you call it

2009
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Speaker 5: August Integrated Defense or defense Defense? Yes? Should you do?

2010
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

2011
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Speaker 5: Of course you do. August Integrated Defense. And one more

2012
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Speaker 5: sleep Vancouver Merchandise appreciate everybody's support on that. Those can

2013
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2014
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Speaker 5: designs are up as well and designs to come in

2015
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Speaker 5: the not too distant future for UFC two ninety in

2016
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Speaker 5: Boston or UFC two ninety Vegas and UFC two ninety

2017
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Speaker 5: two in Boston and full length episode coming back your

2018
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Speaker 5: way on Monday as we get ready for the next

2019
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Speaker 5: UFC Live event thanks to long Ago and Petrie and

2020
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Speaker 5: of course the brains behind the entire operation Cody merrifor

2021
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Speaker 5: kenniflom John and we'll talk to you later this week.

2022
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Speaker 5: Until then, Yo late.

2023
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2024
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Speaker 6: thus does does Dunster. They won't have bron donuts. They

2025
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