WEBVTT - RFK Jr. Breaks the Medical System

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to kadapp and Hear a podcast where I last

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<v Speaker 2>left RFK Junior on the proclamation that if he was

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<v Speaker 2>able to take off as millions will die, and all

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<v Speaker 2>evidence suggests that I am going to be right about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I am your host. Mia Wong with me is gare Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>He's making the meme come true. He's making the millions

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<v Speaker 3>millions must die.

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<v Speaker 2>We're really, really, really truly only the White Man could

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<v Speaker 2>make real unlimited genocide in the first world.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great, it's great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is going to be a recap episode of

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<v Speaker 2>not even all like some of the stuff AREFK Junior

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<v Speaker 2>has done since since he's gotten confirmed as the fucking

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<v Speaker 2>United States is Secretary of Health and Human Services, an

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<v Speaker 2>organization which can includes so many things, but like for example,

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<v Speaker 2>the NIH, the CDC, H I believe, yeah, many many things.

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<v Speaker 2>So Okay, there are lots and lots and lots of

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<v Speaker 2>different rounds of budget cuts that are happening and grant

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<v Speaker 2>cuts from a whole bunch of different departments and agencies.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to start with National Institutes of Health cutting

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of studies for vaccines, for new diseases.

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<v Speaker 2>So URFKA Junior's thing was, well, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>fund any COVID research because COVID is over. So no

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<v Speaker 2>more research into COVID vaccine treatments. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>fund that now. Obviously COVID is like not over trivially.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you catch it and it makes you sick, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you die and sometimes you get debilitating, long term

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<v Speaker 2>negative health outcomes. But this is the law to get

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<v Speaker 2>they're using to just be like, no, fuck it, fuck it,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll cut all of the funding that we can find

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<v Speaker 2>that does this stuff. Now the problem again. And so

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<v Speaker 2>these cuts look a lot like the very beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration where they were just going through and

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<v Speaker 2>like you'd get a giant list of grants that got

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<v Speaker 2>cut in the sense that like they're like control effing programs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like searching for keywords and then just killing

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<v Speaker 2>all the block grants that do that. We'll get more

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<v Speaker 2>into the end of the episode with like a different

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<v Speaker 2>set of cuts. But one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>big issues with this is that it's it's killing coronavirus

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<v Speaker 2>research in general, like all of it is getting like

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<v Speaker 2>massive cuts, and so this includes I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>cnbcos you're putting on this killing a bunch of fairly

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<v Speaker 2>like late stage research on things like you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>like actually having vaccines that could work across like the

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<v Speaker 2>broad category of coronaviruses, because like obviously there are there

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<v Speaker 2>are a whole bunch of different kinds of coronaviruses, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are certain sort of vaccine techniques that can work

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<v Speaker 2>to suppress like the families of them, and fucking I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe maybe maybe the European for the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>will figure out how to do that, because the surest

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<v Speaker 2>fuck isn't gonna be us after recud all this fucking funding.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great, So all right, we're starting sort of I

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<v Speaker 2>guess on the vaccine beat here because there's there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many different kinds of bullshit. One of the other really

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<v Speaker 2>big things that happened is doctor Mark Peters, who was

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who like did Operation Warp Speed, which was

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's like big push to get a code vaccine now,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is something I think is worth highlighting it again.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy like worked under Trump right a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of these programs where we're talking about later were

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<v Speaker 2>Trump programs, but Trump won. I mean, like Trump did

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<v Speaker 2>do some anti vax shit and say some anti vac shit,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't like a hardline anti vaxxer.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely not now. Yeah, at many points he tried to

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<v Speaker 3>take credit himself for the fast response of the CODE vaccine, which, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>as long as we get the vaccine and do whatever

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<v Speaker 3>you want, buddy. And the amount that that's been like

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<v Speaker 3>memory hold and like they're trying to like just alter

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<v Speaker 3>alter history regarding the COVID vaccine is a little, a

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<v Speaker 3>little head scratching. It gives me that just slow growing

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<v Speaker 3>headache that I'm experiencing every day nearly all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>just not due to COVID, because I've actually, to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 3>never gotten it, but it is a headache of political origin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>interesting elements of this is something the thing I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about more like in the wake of like the immediate

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<v Speaker 2>wake of twenty twenty, like twenty twelve, twenty two, is

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<v Speaker 2>there used to be a big split in the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>Party between like the lab leakers and the anti vaxxers,

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<v Speaker 2>because the thing about being a lab leak person is

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<v Speaker 2>that like you can't be a China release, a bioweapon

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<v Speaker 2>person who also thinks that the vaccine is evil or

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<v Speaker 2>at least you shouldn't be able to that those are

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<v Speaker 2>like mutually.

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<v Speaker 3>It took years.

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<v Speaker 2>Legitimately, this is enough cognitive dissonance that even like the

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Jones types, it took years for them to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like develop a level of cognitive dissonance at to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. They did do it eventually. And what we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing right now right is like Trump is a way

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<v Speaker 2>of sort of shiring up his anti vaccine flank, has

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<v Speaker 2>just like handed control over all public health policy to

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<v Speaker 2>these just like hideous anti vaccine like cranks. And so

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Marx, who was like one of the big guys

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<v Speaker 2>from Trump won and you know who stayed on through Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>who was like, yeah, okay, I'm gonna fucking get this

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<v Speaker 2>vaccine to work. He has been forced to resign. And

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<v Speaker 2>Marx also was the guy who was in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>vaccine safety in the US, right, and he's forced out.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said in a statement for CNN, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can read the whole thing somewhere, but quote, it

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<v Speaker 2>has become clear that truth and transparency are not desired

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<v Speaker 2>by the secretary of this is our Kaid Junior, but

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<v Speaker 2>rather he wishes subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's good. That's the guy who used to be

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of our country's vaccine safety going like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy wanted me to just fucking lie about vaccines constantly,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's great. That's fun. So before we get into

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<v Speaker 2>the people who he's also he's bringing in to do

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<v Speaker 2>his like unbelievably fake, hack, bullshit vaccine study stuff, we

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<v Speaker 2>should talk a bit about the measles outbreak in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason that this isn't getting more coverage is that

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to get a really significant amount of

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<v Speaker 2>coverage on this show in the near future when when

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<v Speaker 2>those episodes are done, this is going to get significant coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>For now, what I think is sort of important about

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<v Speaker 2>this is that, so there been an outbreak of measles, which, like,

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<v Speaker 2>there should not be outbreaks of measles. We have defeated measles.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the vaccine. You can take it. It's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the MMR vaccine. You take it and then you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get measles. But there are massive, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>communities who are fucking not vaccinating and as like in

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<v Speaker 2>large part because of the fucking anti vaccine shit that's

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<v Speaker 2>being spread by people like RFK Junior, and faced with this,

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<v Speaker 2>RFK Junior has done a bunch of unbelievably mealy mouthed

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<v Speaker 2>bullshit about his personal choice to do vaccineslah blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then also did a whole thing about how he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to have the government sends vitamin A to

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<v Speaker 2>like combat measles, which is just nonsense, right, Like, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is obviously just a complete fucking fiasco. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to cover this more as it goes on. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>stay tuned for more measles horrors.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing we're not going to cover because it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be covered by these products and services are

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<v Speaker 2>these advertisements.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to talk more about them. Well, we're

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<v Speaker 3>still trying to get that hymns and eventually that them

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<v Speaker 3>is a sponsorship. But we're getting closer. We're getting closer,

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<v Speaker 3>getting closer. We are back now.

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<v Speaker 2>What we are not coming closer to is finding a

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<v Speaker 2>connection between vaccines and autism, because there isn't one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all fake.

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<v Speaker 2>However, come up who I don't believe this include RFKI Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>So our Kad Junior has been doing something. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely a little bit unclear who exactly is running this,

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<v Speaker 2>whether this is like the Department of Health and Human

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<v Speaker 2>Services is like a broader organization, or just the CDC.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's trying to set up a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 2>to like basically cook the books and try to publish

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<v Speaker 2>some shit that shows a link between vaccines and autism.

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<v Speaker 2>It's genuinely deeply murky and unclear as to who's doing

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<v Speaker 2>what right now. But one of the people who's been

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<v Speaker 2>brought in to do this is David Gear, who is

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<v Speaker 2>oh god, oh boy, I mean, even by the standards

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<v Speaker 2>of guy whose job it is to like cook evidence

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<v Speaker 2>to make it look like there's a connection between vaccines

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<v Speaker 2>and autism, even by their standards, Gear is like an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute fucking hack. So we talked about Andrew Wakefield on

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<v Speaker 2>this show, and there is weirdly a Wakefield connection here too.

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<v Speaker 2>So Wakefield is the doctor who originally cooked up like

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<v Speaker 2>a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism. Gear is

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<v Speaker 2>from like a slightly different faction of these cranks, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is the faction that's work that's like

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<v Speaker 2>the most closely aligned with RFK Junior. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>the faction that thinks that like weird methyl mercury or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the fuck in some older vaccines was causing autism,

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<v Speaker 2>which like, no, it wasn't, but he, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>and his dad, Mark Gear like did a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of work to try to sort of establish his eminence.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to read this from NBC just describing their work. Quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the Gears conducted research from a makeshift laboratory in their

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<v Speaker 2>in their carpeted, wood paneled suburban Maryland basement, so get there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing this shit from their basement. Published several studies,

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<v Speaker 2>many of which were retracted, and promoted an unproven treatment

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<v Speaker 2>for autism that cost families tens of thousands of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and included injections of loopron, a drug used for prostate

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<v Speaker 2>cancer and early puberty in children. It's only approved for

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<v Speaker 2>precocious puberty and comes with side effects including bone damage,

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<v Speaker 2>heart issues, and seizures. They diagnose kids with precocious puberty

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<v Speaker 2>without proper testing and misled parents into thinking they were

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<v Speaker 2>signing up for an approved autism therapy. A twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 2>Maryland bord of physicians' investigation found the gears that violated

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<v Speaker 2>standards of care. So to back up for a second, right, A,

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<v Speaker 2>they claimed that mercury and vaccines is causing autism. B

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<v Speaker 2>They claimed to be able to treat it with puberty

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<v Speaker 2>by the autism with a puberty blocker. Yes, which is

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<v Speaker 2>an awest extremely funny. Given like you know all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>these people are like, you know what, trying to bam

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<v Speaker 2>puberty blockers.

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<v Speaker 3>Now give it to them. That's that's fine. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>cure autism by giving all these autistic kids puberty blockers

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<v Speaker 3>and making them trans Sure, sure, let's go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's give give that a shot. I'm sure. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>that won't create a whole new problem for them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that uh, that bone damage thing isn't real. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, this is one of the other problems with this

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<v Speaker 2>is like you get a lot of sources that are

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<v Speaker 2>just fucking making ship up about these fucking diseases.

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<v Speaker 3>To be fair, I also probably I'm unfamiliar with this

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<v Speaker 3>exact puberty suppresses. Yeah, I don't think. But in general, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>loss of blockers is mostly mostly negligible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So so again again, this guy is like, I

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<v Speaker 2>found the cure for autism and it's puberty blocks.

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<v Speaker 3>Very funny. You know, I do know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>autistic people that have gotten how do I say this,

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<v Speaker 3>they've seemed more comfortable once they've transitioned. I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 3>see it like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it's being on the right puberty blocker is better

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<v Speaker 2>for an autistic kid than going through puberty if you

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<v Speaker 2>are trans. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>But this also shows how like the attack on puberty

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<v Speaker 3>blockers for you know, quote unquote trans minors is completely nonsense,

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<v Speaker 3>because these drugs have been used for SIS children to

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<v Speaker 3>cease early on set puberty. These are fully reversible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>these are used for SIS children. It's used by these

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<v Speaker 3>like hacks and weirdos to quote unquote cure autism. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>by these same people as an autism here for the vaccines,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my, even though these are the same like drugs,

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<v Speaker 3>these quote unquote like chemical castration drugs, as Matt Walsh

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<v Speaker 3>would put it, are you know now trying to be banned,

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<v Speaker 3>uh for for for trans children? So you know, hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 3>always always always matters. It's always it's always important to

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<v Speaker 3>point out their hypocrisy because that's how we win. So

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<v Speaker 3>here this is one one more step towards victory, Garrison.

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<v Speaker 3>Garrison putting out hypocrisy is important because morale's a tarada struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes you feel good, and that's a little bit important.

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<v Speaker 3>Average John Stewart post. But okay, let's continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So, his father, Mark Gear, who he was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of this research wish, was short of his

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<v Speaker 2>medical license. Now, David Gear actually amazingly, amazingly was not

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<v Speaker 2>strict of his medical license. And Gart, do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to guess why he wasn't strict of his medical license?

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't have one.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't fucking have one, so instead, instead he was

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<v Speaker 2>prosecuted for doing this shit without a medical license.

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<v Speaker 3>He also doesn't have a medical degree.

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<v Speaker 2>He has he has like a liberal arts Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that that rules.

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<v Speaker 3>These these liberal art students are giving our kids transgender

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<v Speaker 3>hormones many such reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like the only person I've ever seen who actually

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely did do like dangerous and unauthorized like fucking like medical,

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<v Speaker 2>like unauthorized medical experiments on children with puberty blockers.

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<v Speaker 3>Like He's the only one. Yeah, this is the first

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<v Speaker 3>instance I've like heard of like nass unethical use of

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<v Speaker 3>puberty suppressing drugs. It's a fucking anti vaxxery.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the guy they're bringing into the like

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<v Speaker 2>the cook up a connection between vaccines and autism using

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking bears data or whatever. So investigative journal is

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Deer, who is i think probably most famous to

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<v Speaker 2>people who've watched like an h Bomber Guy video as

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who brought down Disgrace dex doctor to Andrew Wakefield.

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<v Speaker 3>Deer like also wrote about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy, like in his like unbelievably dogshit study about so.

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<v Speaker 2>So he publishes like an unbelievably dogshit study about like

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<v Speaker 2>the mercury and vaccines causes autism whatever the fuck, and

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<v Speaker 2>it gets basically like immediately obliterated the moment autism like

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<v Speaker 2>activists discover it and they're like, holy fucking shit, Like

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<v Speaker 2>these people are evil. I'm gonna read a quote from

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Deere's article about it. One of miss Sedell's that

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<v Speaker 2>that's the person who like the auctism like advocate activists

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<v Speaker 2>who like discovered this stuff. One of her complaints concerning

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<v Speaker 2>the GEARS parent Institutional Review the seven member IRB Institutional

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<v Speaker 2>review board consists of Mark and Dave Gear, doctor Gear's wife,

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<v Speaker 2>two of his business associates, and two mothers of autistic children,

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<v Speaker 2>one of whom has publicly acknowledged that her son is

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<v Speaker 2>the patient's last subject of doctor Gear, and the other

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<v Speaker 2>whom is a plaintiff, and three pending vaccine injury claims.

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<v Speaker 2>So the IRB right that this is like an ethicultural

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<v Speaker 2>review board thing that you're supposed to go through to

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<v Speaker 2>get your studies like approved to the IRB for the study. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>is these two guys, his dad's fucking wife, two of

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<v Speaker 2>the business associates, and the mothers of two wattic children

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<v Speaker 2>who think that that vaccines cause autism and are like

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<v Speaker 2>one of whom is in a lawsuit about it and

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<v Speaker 2>the other one is taking the fucking puberty blockers to

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<v Speaker 2>try to cure the autism. So this is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who is being brought in to do the book cooking

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy with no medical license, no medical degree,

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<v Speaker 2>who had to retract his papers because they were bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, and this is something that's common between him and R.

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<v Speaker 2>Junior is all these people they think that like, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be relevant when we get to the

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<v Speaker 2>sort of HIV AIDS. Part of this is that these

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<v Speaker 2>people think that diseases are caused by malnutrition and not

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<v Speaker 2>by you know, like diseases, and they think that you

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<v Speaker 2>can treat them with just being healthy instead of like vaccines.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, this is this is their worldview, right

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<v Speaker 2>the people or sort of view genesis. This is also

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<v Speaker 2>why they like one of the reasons why they fucking

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<v Speaker 2>hate autism so much is that they're just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just on a on a sort of political level, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's just that's just sort of that's just what their

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<v Speaker 2>ideology is.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine how many skilled drone pilots they're going to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really going to backfire on I or we will see.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of womp, womp, here's some ads. All right, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's hear more about Robert F. Kennedy Junior, the second

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<v Speaker 3>Kennedy to have a hole in his head. But this

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<v Speaker 3>one's from a worm.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA Okay, So let's let's talk about the last group

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<v Speaker 2>of things here, which is another series of massive budget

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<v Speaker 2>cuts that they're doing. This is another thing where they

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<v Speaker 2>have a giant list of grants that they're fucking cutting.

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<v Speaker 2>This is another like anti DEI and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of the things that I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>would expect from one of these, like you can only

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<v Speaker 2>study white people ones. So like, there are a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of programs in this list of like grants that

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<v Speaker 2>they're cutting that are like studying you know, racism and

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<v Speaker 2>medicine and like the different medical outcomes between like people

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<v Speaker 2>of different races because they're getting different levels of medical

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<v Speaker 2>care because of the environments that they're in. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is all stuff that like, you know, these people do

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<v Speaker 2>not want their research demonstrating that like racism exists in

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<v Speaker 2>the medical system, because it's it's just extremely bad for

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<v Speaker 2>there just to be objective evidence that there is racism

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<v Speaker 2>and that it's bad and that it kills people. So

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<v Speaker 2>another very bleak thing that I haven't seen much coverage

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<v Speaker 2>of is that a lot of these grants were funding

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<v Speaker 2>research into trans healthcare and also the effects of like

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<v Speaker 2>violence against trans people and things like mental health. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>And this is also something that's devastating because like the

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<v Speaker 2>state of trans medicine, it's like we know things that

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<v Speaker 2>are safe and we know things that work, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just letting people transition, but also there's so much more

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that we need in terms of like hormone regimes

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<v Speaker 2>that like work better, right and things like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>also like you know, just sort of like basic health

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<v Speaker 2>outcome stuff. And yeah, these people do not want anyone

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<v Speaker 2>to know exactly how bad they're They're fucking transphobia is

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<v Speaker 2>affecting the people that they're inflicting it on, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, fuck it, we'll just get rid of all

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<v Speaker 2>these was funding. There's also a whole bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that has to do with COVID. I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>read the description of one of the fucking grants they

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<v Speaker 2>cut to give you a sense of like the shit

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<v Speaker 2>that they're cutting. Development of a handheld rapid air sensing

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<v Speaker 2>system to monitor and quantify stars COVID too in aerosols

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<v Speaker 2>in real time, which actually would be an unbelievably useful thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like a system that could detect fucking COVID like aerosols

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<v Speaker 2>like in real time and tell you that there's fucking

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<v Speaker 2>COVID in the air, staggeringly useful. They don't fucking want it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the big things that they cut is, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're talking about this with sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>cutting my programs to study structural racism in medicine. They

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<v Speaker 2>basically went on a like a county by county basis

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<v Speaker 2>and found every single grant, like state by state, knab

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<v Speaker 2>by county, city by city, every single grant that talks

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<v Speaker 2>about studying the effects of COVID on non white people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and they're doing this. I think people have

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<v Speaker 2>forgotten about this. But one of the things that RFK

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<v Speaker 2>Junior said, like I think this is dream the campaign

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<v Speaker 2>was he had this giant rants about how COVID was

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<v Speaker 2>like specifically targeted to leave Chinese people in Jews alive,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great, that is how he put it.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone should probably report that to Trump's Anti Semitism task Force. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Hall monitor whatever. No one cares anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's you know, so so they're just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to desow all this stuff. They've also just like

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<v Speaker 2>in blocks, just like got rid of every single fucking

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<v Speaker 2>thing that was funding like any program that was like

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<v Speaker 2>mental health care as a block thing. They're just cutting

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. So that's gonna make everyone even more

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<v Speaker 2>normal than we already fucking are. See.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I agree with this because this is the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing where I think the lifestyle choice thing does matter

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<v Speaker 3>because I just read yaoi when I'm sad, and it

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<v Speaker 3>fixes me. And if everyone does that, I think we

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<v Speaker 3>don't need any of these other mental health services. What'd

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<v Speaker 3>you do in your manic though, read more YOOI. You

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<v Speaker 3>get one side, because famously the Yao the yawi're reading

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<v Speaker 3>demographic the most mentally stable and normal population. God.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the other ones that's unbelievably concerning is again

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<v Speaker 2>like county by county going through and cutting funding for

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<v Speaker 2>like things things that promote child vaccination. They are systemically

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<v Speaker 2>trying to cut off kids from getting vaccines, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get rid of anything that opposes like their

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<v Speaker 2>efforts to try to convince everyone to, like all parents

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<v Speaker 2>to fucking not have your kids get vaccines. They also

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<v Speaker 2>cut a whole bunch of grants for rapid disease response,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great. We'll get to the exact reason why

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<v Speaker 2>that's like so fucking terrifying in a second. In the

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<v Speaker 2>like very very immediate term, they also have killed in

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty five grants for HIV, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is a whole bunch of different HIV programs they are

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<v Speaker 2>billing funding for distributing and getting people to use PREP,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a pill that like massively help prevent HIV infections,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're a trans woman and you were having sex,

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<v Speaker 2>like you should get on PREP.

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<v Speaker 3>Or a twink, I will say thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the uptake rates for trans women are specifically lower,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the thing that we know because we have

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<v Speaker 2>these fucking funding and these and we're not gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>that ship anymore because they're they're cutting all the fucking

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<v Speaker 2>funding for these, for these fucking research programs.

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<v Speaker 3>I sometimes do forget that there are trans women with

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<v Speaker 3>different like lived like sexual backgrounds than me, because coming

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of coming out of twink culture, it's like ingrained,

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<v Speaker 3>like your co host who permanently has only ever come

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<v Speaker 3>out of less we had culture. Yes, no, because in uh,

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<v Speaker 3>in twink culture, getting on PREP is is ingrained pretty

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<v Speaker 3>hard at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's it's ingrained in a lot of places,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's places where where it isn't. And those places

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<v Speaker 2>are where things go very very bad, very quickly, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why obviously they're they're eliminating the fucking reas for

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<v Speaker 2>this because they want to fucking kill queer people, like

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<v Speaker 2>they think they think that HIV is a fucking lifestyle choice.

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<v Speaker 2>RF kid junior particular things is because of poppers, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is now leading to the poppers raids. Red alert everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>red alert. Yeah, it's it's getting pretty scary out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's really fucking bleak. I mean they've cut

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean they're they're they're trying to just

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<v Speaker 2>fucking get rid of this because these people are just

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<v Speaker 2>fucking unhinged, virulent homophobes and transphobes, and yeah, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to fucking cut these programs because they think it'll hurt us.

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<v Speaker 2>They've also laid off the entire Office of Infectious Diseases

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<v Speaker 2>and HIV AIDS policy staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that bad? Oh, it's bad. Here's it's the firy CBS.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they do child they're one of the other

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<v Speaker 2>grops that have childhood vaccination efforts. They also run the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking National Vaccine Program, which nobody knows what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 2>to it now, because again, the thing that we was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed run it's just fucking gone. So who the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>knows what's happening with that now. They are probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to just completely destroy umps like giant Trump actually in

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<v Speaker 2>his first term had a giant program to like en

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<v Speaker 2>HIV that like kind of did stuff because it was

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<v Speaker 2>someone else's program that Trump just kind of implemented.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting so close to the HIV vaccine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, and so who fucking knows, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably just completely fucked. Yeah, this is going to have

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<v Speaker 2>just unbelievably hideous consequences on millions and millions of people.

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<v Speaker 2>And they that it's not even though they don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a shit, it's that they think it's cool and funny

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<v Speaker 2>and based when people like us fucking die. Now, on

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<v Speaker 2>the other hands, the rest of the US population is

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<v Speaker 2>about to run into the same fucking thing that all

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<v Speaker 2>of these stupid ass bankers thought, which is that oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump will just fuck with the queries and leave us

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<v Speaker 2>alone no where. We're going to close in the same

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<v Speaker 2>place that they closed the last time I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>fucking RFK junior, which is the fucking bird flu, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that he wants dellusion to the bird flu is

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to fucking let it rip and he just

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<v Speaker 2>wants to just like be like, oh, we can just

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<v Speaker 2>like take the bird to survive the bird flu, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll just let the We'll just let it spread and

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<v Speaker 2>just use those ones and those ones will be healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>So thing about this bird flu right is that it

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<v Speaker 2>kills within three to four days. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Hose and Scientific Americas describes how this thing again

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<v Speaker 2>within three to four days hasn't a ninety to one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent kill rate. So you know, you can't just

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<v Speaker 2>do this right because they'll just it just fucking kills

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<v Speaker 2>all the birds. He doesn't want to fucking vaccinate the birds.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is the thing that like, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>stop this, this this fucking pandemic from.

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<v Speaker 3>Spreading, then you need to do it right.

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<v Speaker 2>And once again I need I need to emphasize enough

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<v Speaker 2>that when when I when I talked to virologists about this,

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<v Speaker 2>they said that like letting the bird flu rip through

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<v Speaker 2>all the fucking bird populations, right, just letting it fucking spread,

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<v Speaker 2>letting it kill everything until you only have the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that like didn't die. Is if you were like trying

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<v Speaker 2>to cook up conditions, like feel conditions specifically to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get it to develop a mutation to spread to humans,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what you would do is you would just

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<v Speaker 2>let it fucking spread uncontrolled and kill everything. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is what we're doing at the same time, as again,

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<v Speaker 2>anti vaxxers are fucking running the running our fucking vaccine services,

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<v Speaker 2>as we are cutting the staff of cutting grant funding

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<v Speaker 2>for people who do response to rapid response to emersion diseases,

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<v Speaker 2>as we are cutting the fucking entire policy staff for

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<v Speaker 2>the Office of Infectious Diseases. They are building a fucking pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of these fucking people think that COVID was

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<v Speaker 2>fucking cooked up in a lab.

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<v Speaker 3>And what they are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like they are, they are now doing the thing

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<v Speaker 2>they are accusing everyone else is doing, which is they

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<v Speaker 2>are fucking at timpting dampleant policy to cook up a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking play in a lab, except it's not coming in

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<v Speaker 2>a lab, is going to be in America's fucking factory farms,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are all going to start for the consequences

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I assume you saw the statement from Cantor analysts

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday, the Wall Street investment firm. This founder was

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<v Speaker 3>like a really was a really big Trump donor, was

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<v Speaker 3>on the inauguration committee. But two of their analysts put

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<v Speaker 3>out a statement today calling to reevaluate RFK Junior as

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<v Speaker 3>a Secretary of Health and Human Services, calling out tess

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote apparent anti science and libertarian agenda, saying it

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<v Speaker 3>will put people's lives in jeopardy to advance a discredited

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<v Speaker 3>theory on vaccines.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I will say this, like, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of riffs in the Trump coalition. RFK Junior and his

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<v Speaker 2>people cannot fucking be allowed to run these institutions. They

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<v Speaker 2>need to be fucking run out now. If we do

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<v Speaker 2>not do this now, millions of people are going to die.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been saying this. I am going to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to say this because you can see in real time

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<v Speaker 2>all of the things that are going to lead to

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<v Speaker 2>all of these people fucking dying. And you know his

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<v Speaker 2>position is not incredibly secure in this coalition, right, Like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there are lots of sectors of capital who don't want

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<v Speaker 2>the entire fucking population of the United States to die

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<v Speaker 2>in a plague.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. After Carl's grandson's resignation, Truist analysts also put out

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<v Speaker 3>a statement advocating for vaccine use and specifically against RFK

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<v Speaker 3>Junior and his vaccine rhetoric. Biotech investors also spread similar

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<v Speaker 3>anti RFK Junior rhetoric over the weekend following marx resignation.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, go fucking I don't know, I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know exactly which public official you pressure or who

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<v Speaker 2>you go scream at to try to get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>this guy before he fucking gets us all killed. But

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<v Speaker 2>go do that, I don't know, Go harassed or like

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<v Speaker 2>legislator or whatever, or like, find find the nearest person

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<v Speaker 2>who can can can be yelled at, who will convey this.

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<v Speaker 3>Stand outside your local CDC office, sign and protest the CDC.

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<v Speaker 3>The hospitals are empty. It's fake. Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>And on that note, getting us yet another fucking one

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<v Speaker 2>of those Actually do they even do the misinformation labels

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<v Speaker 2>anymore on like Spotify and shit in like YouTube?

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<v Speaker 3>Well of course not. God, we love we lost the election.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not half of it. Truth and reasonable list lost

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<v Speaker 3>the election. Sorry not we So all right? Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>this is the cpity could happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>Get this guy out of office before we all fucking

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<v Speaker 2>die in a plague again, it could happen.

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