1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Second hour of Clay and Buckets going right now. We 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: talk about movies a fair amount on the show, and 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: there's one that comes to mind a little bit these 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: days when I'm seeing I was just up up in 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: New York with family, and so I was in Midtown, 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: where I spend most of my time. I was in 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: the iHeart studio there and then walking around the streets. 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Very crowded. A lot of tourists on the streets these days, 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: which is good to see, but also people a bit 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: anxious concerns out there about how safe it is, certainly 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: about how safe it is on the subway, which makes 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: perfect sense given the realities of the New York City subway. 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: But I mentioned, and I'll get into that in a second. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned movies. You know, Clay, there was this movie 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: back in nineteen seventy four. I used to watch all 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: the action movies, right, if it was an action movie 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: made in the seventies, eighties, or the nineties, I was 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: pretty much on board. So I celebrated not just Schwarzenegger 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: and Stallone, the two greats of the genre, but even 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Dolph Lundgren, Van Damn, Charles Bronson. I mean, go down 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: the list, like Chuck Norris. Obviously I can't name them 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: all right now, but I saw them all man, and 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: I saw the ones with numerals after the movie titles. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Where it was not exactly a critical or audience hit. 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: I just kept seeing all these different action movies. Death 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: Wish came out of nineteen seventy four. Death Wish was 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: about It was Charles Bronson movie. It did well and 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: there were there were five five of them, and then 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: they made a remake in twenty eighteen. But it was 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: about a decaying, unsafe New York City where this guy, 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: an architect living in New York City, has street punks constantly, 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, menacing everyone, and then eventually they go after 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: and they harm, an assault and do terrible things to 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: his family, and he's just like, I've had enough, and 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: he goes out there and he's a vigilante. It was 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: a very popular movie. Why was it a popular movie? Well, okay, 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: he could say it was action. Good guys, bad guys, 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: but are also resonated because the New York City. My 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: dad went to Columbia University in New York City, graduated 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: in sixty nine and then you know, lived in New 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: York for years trying to make his way in the 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: world of finance. He tells stories about what it was 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: like in the seventies. You had the subways covered, all 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: of them covered in graffiti, broken windows all over the place, 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: broken windows policing we get from just fixing that issue, 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: and people had just had enough. And I'm telling you 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: we're reaching a point now where New York, for some 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: people starting to feel like it is trending back in 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: that direction. I know they're going to say the numbers 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: aren't as bad as they were in even the nineties 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: was actually the worst. People forget that. The seventies it 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: looked really bad. But the nineties was when you had 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: the most violent crime in New York and a lot 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: of other cities. Nineteen ninety, I believe was the hi 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: mark twenty two hundred murders. Right, How do you get 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: to a place where you have twenty two hundreds in 57 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: New York City? Well, I could point you to the 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: latest from the District Attorney in the City of New York, 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: where he's just essentially decided Clay to stop enforcing the law. 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: The District Attorney, Alvin Bragg, in a lot of cases, 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: not in all cases, he has downgraded fifty two percent 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: of felony cases to misdemeanors. Half of the felonies that 63 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: come before him, he makes effectively a nothing. He treats 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: it like a nothing. Burgher. He wins a conviction fifty 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: one percent of the time. That is just However, understands 66 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: federal in federal criminal court, your chance of getting convicted, 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: you're basically ninety seven percent of them are convictions. Ninety 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: eight percent of convictions fifty one percent convictions. And this 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: is between twenty thirteen or twenty twenty. Downgraded cases by 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Cyrus Vans never once exceeded even forty percent. So crime 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: is going up. The District Attorney of New York is 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: treating I'm less seriously and letting more people get away 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: with it. This is what happens. This is why people 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: start becoming crazy about not want to go on the 75 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: subways and why vigilantes may even pop up in the future. 76 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: I saw that they said subway crime was up forty 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: percent in the last year, which is a pretty massive increase. 78 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, what's going on right now is you are 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: seating the cities and states for elevated rates of crime 80 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: going forward because you were not enforcing the wall everybody 81 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: looks around. This was the broken windows theory of policing, Buck, 82 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: and the idea, which has been proven correct in many 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: different respects, was slow level offenses because you can understand 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: if you're out there and you're saying, why are the 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: police arresting somebody for a relatively minor offense? Right and 86 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: when there's all these other more serious things going on, 87 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: is that they're all connected. And when you see a 88 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: community that allows violence and allows crime to occur, you 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: are more likely yourself to perpetrate violence in the same 90 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: way that when you see one broken window, you're more 91 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: likely to pick up a rock and throw another broken window. 92 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: And that feeds on itself. And right now, I think 93 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: what we're seeing, Buck, is the feeding on itself aspect 94 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: of low crime policies. And we're going to have to 95 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: go back, and I'm curious how long it's going to 96 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: take until we get there to an era when it's 97 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: so widespread the violence, because if you'll remember in nineteen 98 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: ninety four when the Crime Bill was passed, things were 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: so bad that Democrats and Republicans both agreed that crime 100 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: was out of control when something had to be done, 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: about it, and ironically, even though he now rejects it, 102 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: the one thing that Joe Biden might have gotten right 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: in his political career was supporting that nineteen ninety four 104 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: crime bill. Some Democrats tend to be moderate, tend to 105 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: be the same element of the Democrat Party are now recognizing, hey, 106 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: we failed on crime. It's time to address this. But 107 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot of them are still saying what you said 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: at the beginning, Oh, look at the data that's been 109 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: far worse before. Well yeah, that's true, but that doesn't 110 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: mean it can't get worse rapidly in short order. And 111 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: what we've never seen before is this rapid of an 112 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: escalation in violent crime if you go back and compare 113 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: it to twenty nineteen and New York City is a 114 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: great article about the election, Buck saying that we talked 115 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: about how I think I've read it in the New 116 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: York Times this weekend, the Sunday edition Long Island in particular, 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: where I know we have a lot of people listening, 118 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: basically had a monstrous red wave that they flipped several 119 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: congressional districts that Biden won by double digits to the 120 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Republican Party. Crime is visceral, in New York City in 121 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: a way that maybe it's not as visceral in other 122 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: parts of the country, but just it's worth I think 123 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: everyone understanding that the mindset of your average Democrat voting 124 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: in New York City and in Los Angeles is at 125 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: this point because everyone knows that you go into drug stores, 126 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: and I mean in the most populous neighborhoods, not not 127 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: in the high crime neighborhoods. That's been the case for 128 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: a long time. I'm talking about Midtown Manhattan. I'm talking 129 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: about Santa Monica in Los Angeles. I'm talking about the 130 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: West Side in Los Angeles, closer to the Ocean, where 131 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: we have a lot of fancy, fancier neighborhoods and things 132 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: are on lockdown, and there are people living in ten 133 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: cities in the streets. You know, Governor Gavin Newsom who 134 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: says he's not running for president Clay, We'll see, I 135 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: don't know, We'll see no matter what Biden does, he's 136 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: not running for president. Now, this guy is a world 137 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: class liar, So you know, I don't give him any 138 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: credence here or whatsoever. But it is interesting that he 139 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: put it out publicly. But the you know, there's a 140 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: lot of ways to calculate crime and a lot of 141 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: ways to understand how it affects people in their day 142 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: to day lives. The homelessness situation, which is absolutely tied 143 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: into the problems of petty larceny and drug overdoses and 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: drug dealing and a whole range of issues. But the 145 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: homeless situation California, where they have more homeless people than 146 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: any other state in the entire country, has turned into 147 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: all this finger pointing among Democrats because they know it's 148 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: a problem. So what happens is Gavin Newsom says to 149 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: the mayor of San Francisco, London, breeds as the mayor 150 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, etc. Go down all these there's so 151 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: many cities actually in the state of California. You have 152 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: to fix the homelessness problem or else we're going to 153 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: start holding back funds from you. This is what this 154 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: is what is now. This is the latest on this, 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: and they're saying, well, if you, if you hold back 156 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: state funds, the problem is going to get even worse. 157 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: And no one's actually fixing anything. They're just pointing fingers 158 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: of blame to say it's not my fault. I need 159 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: more of this, or they need more of that, or 160 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. But what we saw unfortune 161 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: this election is for a lot of Democrats, the possibility 162 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: of somebody you know, attacking you on your way home, 163 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: ransacking your or throw you know, all matter of crimes, 164 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: all manner of crimes. I mean, even in New York, 165 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: Clay I think I've had in the last six months, 166 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: I had four times someone came off to me demanded money. 167 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: I ignored them. They start cursing and be threatening to 168 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: stab me or whatever. This is just life in New 169 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: York City in midtown. That's going on. The Democrat mindset, 170 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: which is completely reinforced by the Lib media, by the 171 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: New York Times, by CNN, is that's a small price 172 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: to pay for defending our democracy. This is the propaganda. Unfortunately, 173 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: people are suffering, Businesses are being destroyed, people are being murdered, rape, robbed, assaulted, 174 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: and Democrats want you to worry more about Trump and 175 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: they're they're so blinded and they're so propagandized to at 176 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: this point that that actually worked enough. And that's what's 177 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: really sad. Yeah, And I think that's a big picture 178 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: question for all of twenty twenty three, which everyone listening 179 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: to us is going to have to analyze in some 180 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: form or fashion as the twenty twenty four election, which 181 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: we told you would effectively start the day after the 182 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two election was over. You're going to have 183 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: to analyze that for Trump. Is the branding of Trump 184 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: so effective when it comes to independence that he's almost 185 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: unable to win a nationwide election or do you believe 186 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: that he can still get it done again? I think 187 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: it's such an interesting question, and that is, you know, 188 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: give him credit even though it's not deserved, and even 189 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: though it's unfair. The Democrat Party basically a line behind 190 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: so to Washington Post, New York Times, MSNBC, and CNN, 191 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: something that is a lie, which is Donald Trump is 192 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: the biggest threat to American democracy in the world. I mean, 193 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: that's basically what they are saying, and enough people have 194 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: bought it that it's very hard to convince people that 195 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: that's not true. Yeah. Unfortunately, the Democrats, the voting Democrats, 196 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: went along with that um and they would go along 197 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: with whatever the apparatus tells them. So that's that's a 198 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: huge challenge. But they were able to get enough enough 199 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: independent and swing voters to believe that at some level 200 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: parts and that's the part of it that really and look, 201 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: we have to face that. But there are people, you know, 202 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: there are voters in Maricopa County. This is based on 203 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: the exit pulling and I know, the machine shut down 204 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: and they they did the dirty tricks. We said they 205 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: were going to do the dirty tricks. But there were 206 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: independent voters. There were you know, the uh, the kind 207 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: of Legacy McCain GEO moderate GEOP types who said, yeah, okay, 208 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: maybe things are getting much more dangerous in Phoenix, but 209 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't vote for something that's gonna be 210 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: a someone who's going to be a threat to our democracy. 211 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they actually convinced themselves that's more important. So 212 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: we have to keep hammering this and pointing out that, 213 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: first of all, there are a lot of lies around 214 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: the criminal justice reform movement. I'm gonna say it, Donald 215 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: Trump shouldn't have gone along with some of this criminal 216 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: justice reform stuff. It actually did not help. It did 217 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: not make things better. No one seems to want to 218 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: have that conversation. I actually look at the data. I 219 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: look at what's happened in the cities where they've instituted 220 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: some of these policies and programs, and you know, just 221 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: the idea that we're locking up all these people for 222 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: non violent, low level drug offenses. That is not true. 223 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: That's actually not happening. You have to move a lot 224 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: of weight. And the notion that somebody who has a 225 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: weapon while they're selling illegal drugs isn't connected to violent 226 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: criminal activity. Why is the drug dealer on the corner 227 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: carrying a glock in his pants. It's not so we 228 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: can just show it to his friends. Like, we need 229 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: to actually start being honest about what criminality really is 230 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: in America and how it happens. And also people need 231 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: to understand the concept of pleaing down to charges. When 232 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: somebody says, oh, this person's in jail because they know 233 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: they had marijuana in possession or whatever. First of all, 234 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: it might have been a lot of marijuana. Secondly, they 235 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: may have had four more serious charges that were maybe 236 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: violent in nature, and they pled down to the less 237 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: serious of those charges, so that it seems as if 238 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: they have been convicted of a serious crime only relating 239 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: to marijuana, when the four things they did on top 240 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: of that is actually why they have played to the 241 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: crime And if you really want to know what hypocrites 242 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: they are and what frauds they are on this issue, 243 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: you look at the way that big city das all Democrats, 244 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: Democrat of New York, Democrat in Philadelphia, Democrat in Chicago. 245 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: The big city das constantly talking about how we need 246 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: stricter gun laws. But then when people have illegal firearms, 247 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: and not because they were going quail hunting on the weekend. Okay, 248 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: we're not talking about somebody with a side by side 249 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: who's going after some pheasant on the weekend and haven't 250 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,239 Speaker 1: registered their weapon or something. We're talking about gang bangers 251 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: with handguns. And what are the big city das say, Oh, 252 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: we don't want to ruin this young man's life by 253 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: charging him with a serious crime, even though he's maybe 254 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: a felon in possession of the firearm, a crime on 255 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: top of a crime. And alf they're letting more than 256 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: half of illegal gun crimes go. But they think an 257 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: assault rifle band is gonna You know, I got news 258 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: for anybody who doesn't know this. Whether it's in New 259 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: York or Philly or any major city, they're not actually 260 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: shooting each other overwhelmingly, I mean less than one percent 261 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: of the time with an a R with a rail 262 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: system and an a cog on top. No, they're pulling 263 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: out a pistol and they're shooting people and they don't 264 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: prosecute them. 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And now Elon 309 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: is kind of going to war with Apple on Twitter, 310 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: which is going to be interesting to follow. But what 311 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: I would say, Buck, is for you and I and 312 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: many people who are out there listening to us right now, 313 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Elon is creating a fair marketplace for ideas. And so 314 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: if you have been in this community out there and 315 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, I don't know why I would ever 316 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: get on Twitter, it's super frustrating. It's not accurate reflection 317 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: of what opinions really are. I think you need to 318 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: go sign up and stand up for free speech with 319 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is doing now. I think Elon Musk is 320 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: in a position to do more for free speech as 321 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: an individual than any person since the invention of the Internet. 322 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: I think that's honestly where he is. I really believe that. 323 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is seismic, This is massive 324 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: if he continues on this pathway. But Clay the apparatus 325 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: is going to throw everything they have in him. But 326 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: try to stop this. 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But that's how the latest decision by 354 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is described in a Washington Post news story 355 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: with that quote from a Harvard instructor who also says 356 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: Apple and Google should consider booting Twitter off the app store. 357 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Plucked for the headline, Elon must made clear from the 358 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: start he's a free speech advocate who would end permanent 359 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: bands in most cases, and most journalists preferred the old rules, 360 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: which usually penalize conservatives. Now, Musk is fairgrade for criticism. 361 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: But how about a token effort to include a couple 362 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: of voices who don't think he's taken us all to hell. 363 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: Howie Kurtz just calling it like it is on the 364 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: Twitter site. Welcome back to Clay and Bacca. I think 365 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: this is really important. What you're seeing right now is 366 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the first time from the the flotilla of lib propaganda online, 367 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: one ship has finally switched its flag, and not even 368 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: to the right. It's just neutral if you will, to 369 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: free speech. And Clay he laid out something. There are 370 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: already some rumors about this where Apple may decide. Apple 371 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: has already pulled. We talked about this and Elon Muskas 372 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: called them out, pulled advertising from Twitter. So the Twitter 373 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: that was willing to allow the Iranian mulas to have 374 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: their accounts, you know, Hamas could keep its account. Taliban 375 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: can get that. That was all okay, But you know 376 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: Alex Barrenson, Jordan Peterson and former President Trump. That's where 377 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: Apple is the line when it comes to advertising. But 378 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: the notion that they may try to do to Twitter 379 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: what they did to Parlor was raised here. Now that 380 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: Elon has bought this for forty four billion dollars and 381 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: seems to be there's no reason for him not to 382 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: see through the mission, right, I mean, why take on 383 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: the headache if you're not going to really do this? 384 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Clay they mentioned blocking Twitter from the app store. Now, 385 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: what you're seeing, you know, you kind of you know, 386 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, when you're you're bringing down a cartel, you find, 387 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, first you got this street dealer, and then 388 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: you find the regional distributor, and then you go back 389 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: and maybe you find the mule that brought up to 390 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: the regional distributor. And then you find and you go 391 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: all the way up to you know, the Don Corleone, 392 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the scarface, the head of the criminal organization, the head 393 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: of the cartel, who is the little of the guy. 394 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: He's kind of a little guy, El Chapo. You know, 395 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: you go find El Chapo. This is similar in this case. 396 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: We're working our way up through the architecture of propaganda 397 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: and control online for the left. What you're finding is 398 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: that even if you take the Twitter piece out, what 399 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: stands above Twitter in the digital hierarchy of the left 400 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: Apple Well, this is why they control the infrastructure and 401 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: the architecture. This is why what happened to Trump was 402 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: so important. In terms of him being shut down simultaneously 403 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: by every social media company, but also what happened to Parlor, 404 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: because when they shut down Parlor, and when they shut 405 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: down the ability for many different quote unquote right wing 406 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: companies to be able to even reach their audiences, that 407 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: was a test basically of the structure that they had 408 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: built that would disallow anyone who might share an opinion 409 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: that they don't like to even be able to have 410 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: those opinions distributed. And what's fascinating to me about Elon 411 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: is he is creating I think this is a calculated 412 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: choice by him to be tweeting about Apple pulling their advertising. 413 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: He's creating a big tech battle because a lot of 414 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: these companies that are big tech. You know what they 415 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: did Buck, They kind of avoided competing, right Google had 416 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: its lane, Apple has its lane, and they may not 417 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: be best friends, but they're really not competing. They have 418 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: their own monopoly. If you go on right now, you're 419 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: a laptop or your computer screen, Google basically owns search. 420 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: If you use a iPhone or a I should say 421 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: mobile phone, but the fact that the iPhone is branded 422 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: to such an extent, who's a competitor of Apple? Right now, Buck, like, 423 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: in a real way, Google Android, I guess maybe there's 424 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: not really a brand that is in any way really 425 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: big competitors with Apple. I would argue, if you look 426 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: at what happened with Kanye West with his shoe being 427 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: pulled from Adidas, if you look at the way that 428 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: Apple's behaving, there is a recipe and a market right 429 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: now for a right wing version of Apple. And what 430 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is trying to do is go right down 431 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: the middle with Twitter. And what he's learning, Buck, is 432 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: if you go right down the middle, that's considered right wing. 433 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: Now you have to be so far left wing in 434 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: order to be firmly in the left wing camp. Now, 435 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: whether it's Hollywood, whether it's Attack, all these companies that 436 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: if you just say, hey, we're going to go right 437 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: down the middle and apply even standards, that's not permissible. 438 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: How did we get to a point in American society 439 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: where the most powerful companies and the companies that control 440 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: more communication and flow of information than anything else on 441 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: earth would think that Jordan Peterson saying that you men 442 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: should aspire to be men and masculinity isn't toxic, that 443 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: is too dangerous for society. He should not be allowed 444 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: to say that. And we could go on the list 445 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: of all kinds of people. But I keep seeing these 446 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: videos of ten year olds, eight year olds putting dollar 447 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: bills in the you know areas of you know, around 448 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: the waistband of the thread of drag queens. Um, how 449 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: do you get to that? The way you get to 450 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: that point, unfortunately, is with absolute behind the scenes left 451 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: wing dominance of our communications infrastructure. You and I very 452 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: luckily exists because we have radio. We have over four 453 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty give or take radio stations, our affiliates 454 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: a carriers, So that's not that's not subject to the 455 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: whims of the you know, the wokeness of the blue haired, 456 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: unhappy and vicious left wingers who are running all this stuff. Um. 457 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: But what we're seeing, yes, it's such a great point 458 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: we should mention. iHeart covers every aspect of politics if 459 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: you want to get left wing politics, like our company, 460 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: our parent company, everything. What you're hitting at is there's 461 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: a calculated decision to not serve certain markets and even 462 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: take the next step beyond serving that market and say 463 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to even distribute that content, which is 464 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: the next level and that is incredibly should be scary 465 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: to anyone out there. I mean, I imagine that our 466 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: national political conversation and people say, oh, but what about 467 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: Fox News? Oh okay, yeah, that's when you if you're 468 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: looking at news organizations and social media platforms, the right, 469 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: which is half the country, gets about five percent of 470 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: the pie. We're at about five percent, maybe ten percent 471 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: of the overall pie when you add because remember, it's 472 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: not just it's not just the websites you know super well, 473 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: it's all the other websites. It's all the YouTube influencers 474 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: and TikTok influencers. It's not just MSNBC and CNN, it's PBS, 475 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: it's NBC News, you go down the list. They achieve 476 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: this level of dominance, and they also have behind the 477 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: scenes the false perception of platform parody, which has been 478 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: so essential. You know, there's there's three different forms clay 479 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: of propaganda. People generally talk about. Right, there's white propaganda, 480 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: which is you know what it is, you know where 481 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: it comes from, Right, You and me saying we love 482 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: this candidate or whatever. You could argue that's white propaganda. 483 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: But you know what it is. Gray propaganda is when 484 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: it's just of unknown origin. Right, they drop leaflets out 485 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: of the sky that say vote so and so. And 486 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: then what they would refer to as black propaganda is 487 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: when you're actually lying about the source of it. Right, 488 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: So I'm pretending to be someone on MSNBC and I'm 489 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: telling people what to do. The social media platforms, in part, 490 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: have been so powerful because they've been operating under the 491 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: lie that they aren't doing what they're doing. And this 492 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: is the part of it that I think everyone's really 493 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: seeing on earth right now. Yeah, you know CNN is liberal. Yeah, 494 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: you know MSNBC is liberal. But Google and Facebook and 495 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: you know which obviously Google AND's YouTube, all these different platforms. 496 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: They became monopolists by saying we're not doing the thing 497 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: that you think we're doing. It's insidious what they have done. 498 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: And Elon is exposing them right now, which means Clay, 499 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: They're not gonna let this go. They can't. It threatens 500 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: the power too much. And I'll just say this as 501 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: we go to Break and Prefer and we're about to 502 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: hit you with an ad read. Apple and Google would 503 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: not advertise on this program. I mean, just think about it. 504 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: They wouldn't if Apple and Google had an outreach program. 505 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: They wouldn't advertise on this program because they don't respect 506 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: all of you and your political opinions. If Bucket Eye 507 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: were doing a left wing show, left wing version of 508 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: this show, they would spend money hand over fist with 509 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: us at Apple and Google to be able to reach 510 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: a much smaller audience, just because they would say, we 511 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: respect that audience that we were trying to talk to. 512 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: If we were on the left wing, yeah, I mean, Clay, 513 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: we could just like sit here man and be like, yo, 514 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: they're truly are thirty seven genders and real socialism is 515 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: never been tried, And maybe we just send that clip. 516 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, oh, men don't have an advantage in sports, 517 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: So what if that guy six four two forty like 518 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: he's sure, Maybe we send that clip to Apple and 519 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: be like, hey, give us some advertising dollars, your jerks, 520 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: Just think about that. It's a calculated decision and it's 521 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: happening all over the country and Elon Musk is disrupting 522 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: that calculation. He's got the resources to be able to 523 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: fight the battle. I don't know how it's going to 524 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: turn out, but just think about it. It's gonna be messy, 525 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: and we finally got somebody who's willing to fight that battle. 526 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: To your point, Buck, Rupert Murdoch has been. 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Get refunds dot Com. Subscribe to CNB twenty 553 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: four to seven and never miss a minute of Clay 554 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: and Bucks while getting behind the scene access to special 555 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: content for members only. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck 556 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: Sexton show. We are closing off the second hour of 557 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: the program and news continues to fly. Elon Musk tweeted 558 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: five minutes ago. Apple has also threatened to withhold Twitter 559 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: from its app store, but won't tell us why. Buck. 560 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: You may remember all the companies in the wake of 561 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: January sixth, which Apple pulled off of its app store 562 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: parlor rumbles. Do you remember, Yeah, they pulled a bunch 563 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: of I we just said this. He just tweeted this 564 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: six minutes ago, as we're talking to you. So we 565 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: talked about it, there was a commercial break, and now 566 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: he's talking about it publicly. I've just you know, so 567 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: Freddick was littering. We're on the pulse of this thing. Yeah, 568 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: it was parlor they pulled off. They've also been through. 569 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: I think they might have done it to or they 570 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: threatened do it to Gab at one point. And they 571 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: always kind of be clear about this too. They always 572 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: lie clay about why. They say it's because they don't 573 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: do enough to clean up the white supremacy and right 574 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: and and and you know, the vitriol of hate and 575 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: all this stuff. No, they don't want like Republicans on there, 576 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: like they don't you know, they don't want mainstream conservatives. 577 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing to do with the neo Nazis that are 578 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: on the platform. And I think the question that a 579 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of you are probably have in your head is 580 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: how do we get here? And I do think you 581 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: asked that question a little bit earlier. Buck to an era, 582 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: think about this to an era. Win, Apple and Google 583 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: too massive tech companies would never advertise on this radio show, 584 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: Like we could go out to Apple and Google, we 585 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: can give them favor Nation status. We could say, hey, 586 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: you want to advertise Google your search engine? Do you 587 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: want to advertise your what does Google own YouTube? Do 588 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: you want to advertise YouTube on Clay and Buck, the 589 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: biggest radio show in the country. Hey, Apple, you're getting 590 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: into creating original content. You have all these television shows 591 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: that you're putting out. You know, Clay and Buck are 592 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: willing to talk about television shows that they watch. If 593 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: they watch an Apple show, you want to advertise on 594 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: that show? They would say no. And if they got asked, 595 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: they said why not? They said, well, Republicans listen to 596 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: that show. How did we end up in an American 597 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: society when our biggest companies are unwilling to even be 598 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: associated with at least half of the country's political beliefs? 599 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: And what does it say about Elon Musk. All he's 600 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: doing is saying, hey, guys, I want Twitter to be 601 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: a full on market place of ideas. I want there 602 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: to be you know, content neutral policies. And for people 603 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: out there who are not lawyers, you hear phrases like 604 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: content neutral, it's like, uh, they just want everybody treated 605 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: the same right, And if you're going to ban somebody 606 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: off Twitter, it's going to be because they threatened to 607 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: kill somebody, not because they named was that Ellen Page, 608 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: Not because they dead named Ellen Page who starred in 609 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: Juno and was nominated for an Oscar. And that's not 610 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 1: acceptable because Ellen Page has decided now that the new 611 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: name is a dude, and it's Elliott Page. And you're 612 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: not even allowed to mention the history of Ellen Page anymore. 613 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: People clay for tweeting out learned to code when a 614 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: bunch of journalists got fired. Yeah, so you weren't allowed 615 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: to make fun of fire. Du Why because the Twitter 616 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: lives for health and safety or whatever they call it. 617 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: Trust in safety. There you go, trust in safety. Neither 618 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: to be trusted nor about your safety. They are friends 619 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: with all those journals at BuzzFeed, at sleet dot com, 620 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: at all these crow ap sites that shouldn't exist anyway, 621 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: but here we are. And when I say shouldn't not 622 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: just mean nobody should read them. I mean they're free 623 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: to exist. But here we are seeing this exposed. I mean, 624 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: if Apple Apple turning in this way. Look, you know 625 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: they always they always say, oh fine, we'll just compete. 626 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: You know, they had this moment where they realize they 627 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: don't have total control. And then they panic and they go, oh, no, 628 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: we actually just have to cut off you know, we 629 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: have to cut off your supplies. We have to cut 630 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: off your ability to actually compete because their ideas are fragile, 631 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: They're idiotic, and I think they realize, Clay, that the 632 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: dominoes will fall. I've been saying this all along. Once 633 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: Twitter becomes not only a free speech platform, but a 634 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 1: much better business, yes, that is actually making a lot 635 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: of money, because all of a sudden, people are like, well, 636 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: I actually can go on there, and not only can 637 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: I share my ideas, but the people I want to 638 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: hear from I can see their ideas. Gee, sounds sounds 639 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: pretty normal. What's it going to do to Facebook? What's 640 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: it gonna do to YouTube? And you might say, oh, 641 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: those companies are so big they don't care. I mean 642 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: not if you know, people realize that Facebook all of 643 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: I mean that Twitter, all of a sudden, is a 644 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: massive success story. These are publican traded companies. There's a 645 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: fiduciary responsibility that comes into play. And this is where 646 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: we talk about the resorting of America. COVID made red, 647 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: Redder and blue bluer. We saw that too many ways 648 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: play out in the twenty twenty two elections, certainly in 649 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: a state like Florida. How much of business I just 650 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: want you to think about this in the years ahead, 651 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: how much of business is going to be This is 652 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: a business for red state America, This is a business 653 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: for blue state America. My most recent book, Buck was 654 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: called Republicans by Sneakers Too, because it was a quote 655 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: from Michael Jordan when he was asked why he did 656 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: not get political The Pathway of Nike from We're gonna 657 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: make Michael Jordan's super rich because he's the greatest basketball 658 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: player of all time, and we want to share sell 659 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Air Jordan's to Republicans and Democrats too. We're going to 660 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: make Colin Kaepernick rich because he took a knee on 661 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: the national anthem. Is a perfect window into where we 662 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: have gone as a country and the failures to embrace 663 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: the meritocracy and excellence. But when we come back, we're 664 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: going to be joined by the next Senator from Missouri, 665 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: Eric Schmidt. He just deposed doctor Fauci for seven hours. 666 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: What did he learn? We'll talk about it next. Sleet 667 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of