1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Look, Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: In the radio business has called an appointment setup. It 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: could be the fact that we play the Captain Kangaroo 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: or Oh Happy Day. It's a way that using a sonic, 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: using sound, it's a way that you said, a moment 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: and a reminder. In musicals, you have what's known as 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: a late motif, which is also when a character walks 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: in his music kind of sets the tone. Well, we 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: have done an Easter special on the good Friday before 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Easter for years and today is no different. And we 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: call back Pastor ed Young a conversation with we had 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: with him a couple of years ago, because y'all seem 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: to have loved it so much much and frankly, so 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: did we. Pastor Young. I'm going to ask you to 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: start us with the Book of Luke. The Gospels of 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: Luke talk about the Easter story, but if you could, 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: can you put into context why the Easter story is important? 19 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: A plus question, Michael, I'll tell you that, you know, 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: I've sort of came to myself the early part of 21 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: this week, by the way Luke is so important because 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: of the way he handles history. Luke wrote more of 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: the New Testament than anybody else. You think, John or 24 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: Paul know Luke. He wrote acts, you remember, and he 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: wrote the Gospel of Luke. More verses are written by Luke. 26 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: Luke maybe the only gentile who's written anything in the Bible. 27 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: He was a medical doctor, as you know, and a 28 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: ascute historian. So you have touched my number one guy. 29 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: I love the Gospel of Luke more than anything else. 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: But I think what you're asking me is the same 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: identical question, Michael, that the Church at Card asked Paul. 32 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: The most definitive chapter in all the Bible, and answering 33 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 2: all the questions you and I would ask is First Corinthians, 34 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: chapter fifteen. And what you gave me a little cheat 35 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 2: note uphead where we talked about you. Remember then what 36 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: you asked thee to think about, Michael, is exactly what 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: they asked the apostle Paul in chapter fifteen of First Corinthians. 38 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: And they said, but someone will say verse thirty five, 39 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: how are the dead raised? Oh? And with what kind 40 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: of body do they have? What kind of body do 41 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: they come with? And that's exactly what Easter is all about. Also, 42 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: this past Monday, I was I woke up ear they 43 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: thinking about Easter all this week, all the services, everything 44 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: we have. And then I said, you know, I'm sort 45 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: of a hypocrite. I have not exactly expressed in all 46 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: these years of preaching on Christmas and preaching on Easter, 47 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: because every Christmas, Michael, I say, this is the most 48 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: important date in history. And then I turned around in 49 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: Eastern said I said, no, no, no, Easter is the 50 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: most important day in history. So you know both cannot 51 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: be true. So I sat down, I said, all right, 52 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 2: what's the difference in Christmas and Easter. They're both over 53 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: the top, vital, important facts in history. And then I 54 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: came up with this. I just said, Christmas is the 55 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: most important event in God's history. Now what does that mean? 56 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: That means all the prophecy of the Old Testament, the 57 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 2: promise that God would visit this earth Messiah, God would 58 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: put on human flos and live among us. That was 59 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: fulfilled in Christmas, and that was thousand years of prophecy. 60 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: I said, all right, Christmas is the most important event 61 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: in God's history. Then I thought about what about Easter. 62 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Easter is the most important event in Man's history because 63 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: Michael Easter answers the question is there life after death? 64 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: How do we know? Can we be sure? Is it 65 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: a myth? Is it legend? Is it absolutely true? Truth? 66 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: So what you gave me the head up to deal 67 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: with was how the dead raised and what kind of 68 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: body they'll have? Paul answers it in one Corinthians fifteen. 69 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: Is at interesting? 70 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: It is interesting? And well, anyway, I'm sorry, go ahead, 71 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to get distracted and take you off a 72 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: rabbit trail and I know you've you've got to. 73 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: You can take me down any rapid trail. Hey, you've 74 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: taken down there. 75 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: Before, Michael, So did you? Yes? 76 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: I have. 77 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: So did you come to the conclusion that Easter is 78 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: the most important day of the year, end of history? 79 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Because it is? It is why the resurrection? 80 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: That amen? Amen? And we've all lost loved When you 81 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: lost your brother fairly recently, I've lost a wife, I've 82 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: lost my parents, and I lost a younger brother. So 83 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, Michael, this thing of 84 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: Eastern becomes all important to us personally, and then we 85 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: sit down and say it's important to the history of humanity. 86 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: So let me answer those questions. Is like Paul did. 87 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: They asked, well, how the dead raised? What kind of 88 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: body do you have? And Paul answerin you know, he said, 89 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: he said, you fool. He said that which you soul 90 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: does not come to life unless it dies. And he 91 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: talks about that resurrection is a natural thing in civilization, 92 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: in life, he said, But God give us the body 93 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: just as he wished, and each one of the seeds 94 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: the body of his own. First thirty nine, he said, 95 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: all flesh is not the same flesh. But there's one 96 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: flesh of men, and the other fleasure of beef, and 97 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: the other flesh of birds, and other flesh of fish. 98 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: He said, they're also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. But 99 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: the glory of the heavenly is one and the glory 100 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: of the earthly is another. Now he talked about the 101 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: glory of the sun the moon. Etca said, what does 102 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: he say? He is saying simply, resurrection is a natural 103 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: thing in life. Michael, You and I fish with worms. 104 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: We have fish with caterpillars, and it's amazing to me 105 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: that that caterpillar can go in that cocoon and come 106 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: out a butterfly. It's amazing to me that tadpole can 107 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: come out of frog. It's amazing to me that you 108 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: can put a seed in the ground. And I come 109 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: from a Bucolic redneck background in Mississippi, as you do 110 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: in Texas, and that seed will come up and whatever 111 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: that seed and it dies, it comes up corn, or 112 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: it comes up tomatoes or whatever's planet. So the whole 113 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: idea of change and resurrection is built in the fabric 114 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: of nature. So resurrection is a natural thing, and therefore 115 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: we come and see the resurrection also is a supernatural thing. 116 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: And we know that Jesus was imperishable to the right 117 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 2: hand of God Divinity in heaven. He came to earth, 118 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: he became imperishable, and that means he became human like us. 119 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: And so we talk about the resurrection is natural. We 120 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: see it in nature also it is supernatural, and he 121 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: says in verse forty two. So also the resurrection of 122 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: the dead is sown a perishable body. That's when we die, 123 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: is raised an imperishable body. 124 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you there. Pastor ed Young, Second Baptist 125 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: Church in Houston is our guest, and we will continue 126 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: our conversation about the meaning of Easter to us. 127 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: The first Era in Texas ends today. 128 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. Pastor I interrupted you. You were 129 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: talking about the Book of Loup and you were talking 130 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: about the importance of Easter. I would like to for 131 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: folks who have never had this experience, maybe they hadn't 132 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: been to church since they were a child, maybe they 133 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: have a rough estimation. Let's talk about the actual the 134 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: actual moment around which this happens, and what the Bible 135 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: says happens and what that means. Can you go through 136 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: that for us bit by bit and by the way, 137 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: in the Book of Luke. 138 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: Presumably, well, I've moved back into Corinthians a little bit 139 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: because they matched. Corinthians really explained Luke is a historical 140 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: part primarily, as you know, Michael, But Corinthians explains to 141 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: us what the history is all about. Now, if you 142 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: talk about historical this is interesting. There is more evidence 143 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: that Jesus Christ was bodily raised by the Father from 144 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: the dead, then there is evidence that Julia Caesar ever 145 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: conquered Britain. In other words, the truth of the resurrection 146 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: of the body. It has more historical verification and evidence. 147 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: And Michael, you used to be a law you remember. 148 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: It's been a while, but I do. 149 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: All right, when you go into court, if you've got 150 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: circumstantial evidence, that's overwhelming, right, and then you got eyewitness evidence, 151 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: that's empirical evidence, that's overwhelming. Michael, you'll win that case 152 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: every time, correct, you'd hope, so, yes, I think you would. 153 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: That's where we have in the Resurrection of Christ. We 154 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: see there on that Easter morn. We know the first 155 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: people they went to the grave, what did they see? 156 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: From a distance, they would have seen a giant stone 157 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: rolled away that were way anywhere from a ton and 158 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: a half to two tons. And then they would ask 159 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: the question, I'm sure, wasn't that stone put over the 160 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: grave of Jesus had the Roman seal around it? And 161 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: nobody in that day would break a Roman seal because 162 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: it would be immediately punished by death. And then they 163 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: would go and they would look into the tomb. They'd 164 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: see that it is empty. They'd look at the grave clothes, 165 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: and they would see that they were like a chrystalist. 166 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: They were still in the form of the body, and 167 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: they were looking there and they would see a napkin 168 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: neatly folded. All of this is circumstantial evidence. You wonder 169 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: what happened, and then you would see the napkin, interesting 170 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: has real importance for us. It's a napkin folded there. 171 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: The body is gone. Here's the sort the shadow of 172 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: the body, the cloth still there, the burial garments still care. 173 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: The napkin tells you two things. First of all, in 174 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: that moment of history, if you were eating and you 175 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: were coming back, you got up to door do something else, 176 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: you would fold your napkin. If you were not coming back, 177 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: you just put your napkin down your chair. By the way, Michael, 178 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: this is what we should do today. Incidentally, and so 179 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: when they saw that folded napkin in retrospect, they would say, 180 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: he's gone and he is coming back. And then you 181 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: would see that's a little sides treat. Then you would 182 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: see also other questions being asked, what about those Roman 183 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: guards who were there. There's a whole explanation for that. 184 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: And you go on and you see, then the eyewitness 185 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: accounts is I could give a lot of circumstantial evidence, 186 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: forensic evidence, but then the empirical evidence would be eye 187 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: witness accounts. Jesus dead three days, the Father raising him 188 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: from the dead, and then you see eleven different appearances 189 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: over forty days, and all kinds of circumstances, to people 190 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: who did not believe him, to people who doubted him, 191 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: to his friends, the family, and finally to five hundred men. 192 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: And that would mean the women would not even be 193 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: counted in that day, or the teenagers or the children. 194 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: And then you have all of these evidences of that. 195 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: And to give you an illustration, you as an attorney, 196 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: if you had five hundred witnesses and they testified, say, oh, 197 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: six minutes of peace, you would have over fifty hours 198 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: of personal witnesses saying he was dead, I saw him 199 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: with the cross and buried, and he is alive. You know, 200 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: I think that's the case that even I could win. 201 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: So you have this tremendous evidence of the truth of 202 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: the resurrection. 203 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: Pastor ed Young's Second Baptist Churches, our guests. With Easter 204 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: upon us today being Good Friday and Easter being two 205 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: days away, let me ask you Good Friday, the day 206 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: of Jesus' crucifixion, talk a minute, if you would, or 207 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: more than a few minutes about that crucifixion. Why was 208 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: that important as part of everything that was to be 209 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: that being one of the major stages. 210 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: In that well. Let me say this reverently, Michael. You 211 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: are known for your reverends. You just say things as 212 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: they are. I'll say this, am I right? 213 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: You have said it for years, Michael. I enjoy your show, 214 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: but sometimes you say some things that make me created. 215 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: You know what. 216 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: You've been very consistent, and I appreciate that. 217 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: Michael. Let me say this, and I say this irreverently. 218 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Number one, Jesus was a garbage collector. What he did 219 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: on that cross, he took all the shame, the lust, 220 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: the hypocrisy, the lives, the phoniness, all of that on himself, 221 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: all of your garbage and all of my garbage, and 222 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: for that matter, of the world's garbage. And then that 223 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: was the only time that the Father turned away from him. God, 224 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: the Father, he says, my God, my God, why have 225 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: you forsaken me? The reason was God is holy. He 226 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: cannot look and tolerate any form of trash any time, anywhere, 227 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: and here all that went on Jesus, and Jesus paid 228 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: the price that you and I should pay for all 229 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: of our trash. And so we will not have to 230 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: pay the price when we die and leave this earth. 231 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: And so Jesus, the Bible says, went to hell, and 232 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: hell is the absence of God. And that's exactly what 233 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: happened to Jesus on the cross. He took all of 234 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: our stuff and took all the penalty that you and 235 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: I deserve upon himself, so that when we receive him 236 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: in our life convicted of sin, confession of sin, reception 237 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: of Jesus, then we have a new life, a new 238 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: life in him. Now. He took all of that. So 239 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: the heavenly Father, he looks at Michael Barry had young 240 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: anyone else who's in Christ, and say, hey, you're perfect 241 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: in my sight. And we had to be perfect. Oh, 242 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: we never get to heaven. We never would make it 243 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: perfection on this earth. Christ demonstrated that perfection, took that 244 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: upon himself, and our God is a just God, and 245 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: that satisfied his justice. And this gives us a way 246 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: to know that when we're absent for the body in 247 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: this life, Michael, we are present with the Lord Almighty 248 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: in heaven, as we talk about in a minute, with 249 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: that new resurrection body. 250 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: Pastor holds them, Yes, it does, Pastor Eddung, As our 251 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: guests will continue our conversation about Easter the resurrection, why 252 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: it matters today. 253 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: Coming on, we will restore the American Republicsant Michael very 254 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: you your support, we will make it America powerful again. 255 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Of the annual markers we have on the show, I 256 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: find the adoption special. We do to be very emotional 257 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: for me and very powerful Mother's Day, Father's Day, and 258 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: hopefully we make people better mothers and fathers out of it. 259 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: When we celebrate our veterans, I think hopefully it gives 260 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: some pride to our veterans, and it makes folks more willing, 261 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, to reach out and thank them and not 262 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: take them for granted. Our Easter Friday, Good Friday Easter 263 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: Show always reminds me in such a poignant way of 264 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: the uplifting message of resurrection and the uplifting message of 265 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: my faith. And intuitively we know that John three sixteen right, 266 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: but it's just good. And I think Pastor ed Young, 267 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: who was for many years. He's no longer the lead 268 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: pastor second Baptist, his son Bennis, but for so many 269 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: years he was the pastor, and I've always felt this 270 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: is such a good message. So that's why we pull 271 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: this one out and dusted it off, because I think 272 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: it's he's just perfect for our time. Pastor, I want 273 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: to rewind you. We've been talking about Easter and the Sunday. 274 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: I want to rewind you to Good Friday, the day 275 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: of the Crucifixion, and put into perspective what happened there. 276 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Christ was not the only person who was put upon 277 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: across He was not the only person who was to 278 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: be stoned to death. But this was an important part 279 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: of everything that was supposed to happen, happening such that 280 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: Easter and the Resurrection could happen. Describe what was going 281 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: on at that time and how this came to be. 282 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, Jesus was someone who 283 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: always swam upstream. People say, you know, Jesus didn't get 284 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: involved in politics. You're involved in politics, Michael gotten involved 285 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: in politics. You say, why Jesus, I think was a 286 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: master politician. Politics in this purest definition, means relationships. It 287 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: has to do relationships. And Jesus was God's son or 288 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: relation with the Father. And then Jesus moved out in 289 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: relationships in the world. And so I say Jesus got 290 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: in trouble because he stood against the Pharisees. The Sadducees, 291 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 2: the Esses, the Erodients, all the political parties of that day. 292 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: You say they weren't political, they most certainly were, because 293 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: there was a theocracy, you know, spiritual things combined with 294 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: physical things. And when he stood in the way, when 295 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: he claims the temple of all the common artists and 296 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: money changers that were there, and all those who were 297 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: fleecing the people, man, that was a political statement, and 298 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: that would sort, I think, Mike Michael, the last straw. 299 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: They said, we got to get rid of this guy, 300 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: and that's the background of partial background of wine. They 301 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: nailed him to the cross, an innocent man found guilty, 302 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: and then God used that to provide for you and 303 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: me a way to get right with him now and 304 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: get right for him with him forever. So you can 305 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: take three symbols and you can cover Christianity if you 306 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: fill in the gaps, and the first would be a cradle, 307 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: and the second be a cross, two big hunks of 308 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: wood nail together to kill somebody. And the third would 309 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: be an open cave the two You take those three 310 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 2: things right there, very simple, very practical, and you have 311 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: the whole thrust of Christianity. Jesus died so that we 312 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: might know the truth. And the truth will set you free. 313 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: If we don't know the truth, what happens. We're not 314 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: set free. We're in bondage. And those the world needs 315 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: to know the truth that they can know God. God's 316 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: made himself available. We can turn away from the trash 317 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: in our life and repent and receive him, and he 318 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: gives us brand new life and the promise Michael, of 319 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: a resurrected body in heaven. And I want to talk 320 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: about that resurrected body if we could, just like Paul 321 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: does here in Corinthians Perfect, go ahead. Well, the thing 322 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: about it, your body and my body we are deteriorating. 323 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: Now you are in great shape, you fast. I know 324 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: that you've lost one thousand pounds. How much have you lost, Michael, 325 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: seventy pounds? 326 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: Thank you? 327 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. And so that's the temple. 328 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: But we know, regardless of how well we eat, run, jog, vitamins, etc. 329 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: It's going to come a time in this body that 330 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: we now have, as magnificent as it is, is going 331 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: to wear out and we're going to stop breathing and 332 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: we're going to graduate from this life. What happens. Then 333 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: here's the thing. Your body in my body is not 334 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: built for eternity. Correct, it's not built not gonna hold up, 335 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna be. We we're gonna waste the way this 336 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: old body is gonna rock. What's gonna happen? If we're 337 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: in Christ. We get a resurrection body. And this you know. 338 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: I start all by saying it is natural, the revelation. 339 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: Resurrection is natural. It's also supernatural. But then Paul tells 340 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: us the kind of body we're gonna be it it's beautiful, 341 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: he says. Behold, I tell you, mister, this the fifty 342 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: first verse of first Drinkings. We will not all sleep, 343 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: let's die. We will be changed. And in a moment, 344 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: in the twinkling of an eye of the last trumpet, 345 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead will be raised. 346 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: Get this imperishable and will be changed for this perishable. 347 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: That's your body, my body. Now everybody's body must put 348 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. 349 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: We get a resurrection body. The prototype Michael is a 350 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: resurrection body ge Jesus had when God raised him from 351 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: the dead, and he lived on this earth for forty days, 352 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: he ate fish, he fried fish. He said, hey, Dalton, 353 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: Thomas didn't believe that he could come back. And then 354 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: Jesus said, look at my hands, look at my feet. 355 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: He had a physicality to him, but also he could 356 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: go from here to there, and he was in another dimension. 357 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: He could walk right through walls and appear. That is 358 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: a prototype of the resurrection body that will have in Christ, 359 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: in Paradise forever. That's what your brother has right now. 360 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: That's what families have everyone who died in Christ. So 361 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: that's a beautiful promise to me. And Paul ends up 362 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: in here he says, oh, Death, where's your victory? Death, 363 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: where's your steam? The sting of death is sin, and 364 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: sin was taken care of by Jesus, our garbage collector 365 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: on the cross. And the power of sin is the 366 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: law do right, do wrong, the law that just diagnoses 367 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: when we filed up and when we strike out or 368 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: we fumble. But then Paul says, but thanks being the 369 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: God who gives us the victory through Jesus Christ, our lord. 370 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: You see the bottom line, Michael. Because Jesus conquered the gray, 371 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: we too will conquer the gray to be absent from 372 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: the body is to be present with the Lord. 373 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you rut there. We will finish up 374 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: the show with Pastor ed Young the Second Baptist Church 375 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: and talking about how this message relates to our world, 376 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: our lives on this day coming up the DIA filed 377 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: emotion against my chief of stuff. That is enough. 378 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: Evidence we better throw those bombs out of office. 379 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: I was asking my email, will we end up interviewing 380 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: another pastor or our Easter message going forward? Maybe maybe 381 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't intend to play Pastor ed Young every year. 382 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll put a year or two in between. But 383 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: I have to tell you that listening to it to 384 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: make sure that there weren't references to, you know, a 385 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: church service that's not actually coming up because it was 386 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: in the past. Listening to it and hearing the message 387 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: again before now I just find it such a wonderful message. 388 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: And I've watched a lot of Easter specials. In fact, 389 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: our Saturday podcast tomorrow is the Reverend Billy Graham standing 390 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in the rain on a stormy night, 391 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: talking about another stormy night when Christ was crucified, and 392 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: it's just a beautiful, beautiful message. And you know, Reverend 393 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: d Young comes from that line of pastors, and I 394 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I just maybe it appeals just to me. 395 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you what you think. But 396 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: here you go. I'm going to shut off my mic 397 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: and I'm going to give you up until thirty seconds 398 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: left in this segment, which is about seven minutes, to 399 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: talk about how we can apply this Easter message to 400 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: our own lives. Go ahead, past Red Young. 401 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: When we received Christ into our lives, he tells us 402 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: in John ten ten, I have come that you might 403 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: have life and have it more abundantly, and that is life. 404 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: Now when we come to Christ and let him become 405 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: not only our savior but our Lord to run our life, 406 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: and it tells us how we'll have life forever, so 407 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: that abundant life begins now, the resurrection life actually begins. 408 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: Now we have a new life. We are changed, and 409 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: we use the old expression, biblical expression being born again. 410 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: Isn't that something old things have passed away? When we 411 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: receive Christ, we don't get better, we don't improve, We 412 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: just become brand new creations of God. And the resurrection power. 413 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: Can can you imagine the amount of power it took 414 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: for the Father to take Jesus who was dead three 415 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: days and take that dead body and bring it back 416 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 2: to life. What kind of power is that? That's the 417 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: power that we receive and we get when we receive Jesus. Guy, 418 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: I said, well, I don't feel like I have that power. 419 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: We don't use it, don't we use this a small 420 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: bit of that resurrection power. And that resurrection power that 421 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: we have, it changes our minds, our hearts, our motives, 422 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden we begin to get insight 423 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: into the broken, godless, woke culture that is this overwhelming 424 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 2: us in our land. Christ wants to come and use 425 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: you and use me to be the salt, the light, 426 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: the King, the leaven to change this world. So all 427 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: I'm responsible for is my little rim of the Kingdom 428 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: of God now as a person who is in Christ. 429 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: And that's all your responsible for. When we begin to 430 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: let the light of God and Christ shine in our lives, 431 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: the darkness that we feel that is pervading all around us, 432 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: we will let this little light shine for him. Jesus 433 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: came that they may be light, insight, wisdom, And so 434 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: I would say, wherever you are, whatever your circumstances. You say, well, 435 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: I'm limited here. I have this. Use that for God 436 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: and for Christ, and let him work in and through 437 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: your life. You know, God only has your hands, my hand, 438 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: your feet, my feet, your mind, my eyes. That's all 439 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: he has, but my goodness, if we turn that over 440 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: to him and let the resurrection power of Christ live 441 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: in us, all of a sudden, you know what happens. 442 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 2: Death is dead. That's a big thing to live as 443 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: though you're already in heaven now in one sense, because 444 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: death is dead, not that there's not fear and apprehension, 445 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: but it is dead and crucified. Because we know to 446 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: be in Christ, to be absent from this body, to 447 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: be present with the Lord. And this gives us a freedom. 448 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: This gives us a liberty, and this gives us I 449 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: don't like the word hope. The biblical word for hope 450 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: is not our word. We say, well, I hope it 451 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: will have it. That's not the biblical word. The biblical 452 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: word for hope is I look forward to You don't 453 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: say I hope the sun's going to come. But in 454 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: the morning, we know the rotation of the earth around 455 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: the sun, it's going to appear to come from the morning. 456 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: That's a sturd and that's the way it is a 457 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: biblical hope. We know. To be added from this body 458 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: is to be present with the Lord, and we know 459 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: that death is dead. And in that light we can 460 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: serve in freedom, in liberty without fear, and we can 461 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: make a difference in the broken world in which we live. 462 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: Other than that we're just breathing air and going through 463 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: the monotony of life and trying to do this. And 464 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: trying to do this, we put Christ in the center, 465 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: this resurrected Lord. I can tell you, ladies and gentlemen, 466 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: that will change you. And everybody will say, boy, what's 467 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: happened to bell Man? You know, Alice is different. Alice 468 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: has simply said, I've got out of the way myself, 469 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: my selfishness, and I'm going to let God work in 470 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: my life. Doesn't mean we walk around with pullpet Bibles 471 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: under our arm, but it means we walk around as 472 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: light barrows in a world that so desperately needs truth 473 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: and light to shine in every endeavor in which we're part. 474 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: Pastor, I'm going to stop you there and ask that 475 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: you do one more thing before we close the show. 476 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: I've got about a minute and a half, and I 477 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: want to ask you to pray for our listeners and 478 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: for this great country, if you would please. 479 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: Dear Heavenly Father, all of us this moment know that 480 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: America is in trouble, that the world is in trouble, 481 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: and we talk about it, we discuss it, we express 482 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: to one another that and we see where we are 483 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: that America's son, Hazemhau has wandered away from the basic 484 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: principles of being a Judaeo Christian nation under a constitution 485 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: that was written and framed in prayer by God fearing men. Lord, 486 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: May we return to you, may return to your body, 487 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: the Church, and realize that that's what the institution you 488 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: have put in this world to permeate everything else. And 489 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: we know the gates of hell will not prevail against 490 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: your church. And we see the gates of hell being 491 00:30:53,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: erected around our government, our White House in Austin, our schools, 492 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: our institutions. I entertained, we see gates of hell all 493 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: around these things. Father, But we know that your Church, 494 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: alive with Christian people, will promeate that. And that's our 495 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: hope for today and I hope for tomorrow. Bring us 496 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: home to you this Easter Lord, the realization of what 497 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: it can mean for men and women, young people to 498 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: come alive from Christ. The life that you gave to 499 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: Jesus will come to us. May we use that light 500 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: and that light wherever you find us today this Easter. 501 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: Through the name of our resurrected Lord and Jesus, we 502 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: pray Amen, Amen. 503 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: Astor ed Young. We appreciate you and we love you. 504 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, love you. 505 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: Have a great Easter. Michael