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Speaker 1: Do you guys, realize the movie the program is just

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Speaker 1: But if you can sit through that, the programs just

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Speaker 1: actual teams Iowa, Michigan, Mississippi State, they're all in the movie.

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Speaker 1: It's the height of the steroid era, and they lean

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Speaker 1: the way, guys, it's not hard to put on thirty

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Speaker 1: It's both a movie that's aged the best and the

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Speaker 1: worst in history. There you go, that's my endorsement. The

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Speaker 1: program just on YouTube right now, or if you have

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Speaker 1: like three to ninety nine, you could just rent it

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Speaker 1: This show's free, and we appreciate you watching jam packed

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Speaker 1: high top of Curious Downtown Nashville tonight, Sunday Night, February eighteenth,

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Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four. Someone told us

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Speaker 1: we should take a break today. The season is on hold.

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Speaker 1: There is no off season. And the way I know

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Speaker 1: ten for you tonight? Saban retired? Is he still one

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Speaker 1: I've got mystery teams for this upcoming year. I'll also

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Speaker 1: sport this year. As we know. As you and I know,

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Speaker 1: They're watching us in Knoxville, Tennessee. Pine Mountain, Georgia is

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Speaker 1: Make sure you're following on the socials at late Kick Josh.

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Speaker 1: For two reasons. Number one, I've got it on good authority.

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Speaker 1: So the Pate State Speakers Series gonna be hitting the

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Speaker 1: Utah No, I'll get back to this in a second.

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Speaker 1: Utah wins the Big Twelve. Yeah, first year in the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve, walk right in and grab the crown. They're

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Speaker 1: the three seed. Florida State wins the ACC they're the

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Speaker 1: four seed. Now I want you to imagine this because

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Speaker 1: we don't know how this is gonna shake out yet,

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Speaker 1: but just start to familiarize yourself with the way the

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Speaker 1: seeding works. Utah gets that third seed and a first

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Speaker 1: round by because they're a conference champ. So it does

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Speaker 1: not matter how good Texas was in this scenario, or

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Speaker 1: how good Tennessee was or Bama was if they didn't

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Speaker 1: win the conference, doesn't matter. If Vegas tells you that

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Speaker 1: be a two touchdown favorite against Utah, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: ranked behind them. I don't look like I told you

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Speaker 1: there are fifty different flaws that I have with this system,

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Speaker 1: this being one of the biggest one. Autobids in general

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Speaker 1: are pathetic to me. If you need special carve outs

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Speaker 1: to make sure you get access to a twelve team playoff,

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Speaker 1: you didn't belong in the playoff. That's my feel. But whatever,

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Speaker 1: they didn't consult me, as they seldom do on these matters.

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Speaker 1: So with those first four and given the matchups that

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Speaker 1: we gave you in the first round, we're looking at

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Speaker 1: and these are all neutral sites, cause God forbid, we

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Speaker 1: play two rounds of home playoff games. Bama versus Georgia,

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Speaker 1: Texas versus Florida State, Tennessee versus Ohio State, Oregon versus Utah.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Bama Georgia play in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: For all we know, they played in Atlanta as well.

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Speaker 1: This could be their third matchup. Nothing like college football.

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Speaker 1: Man three matchups in a year. Texas Florida State would

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Speaker 1: be wild because that's Florida State shot. Okay, they had

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Speaker 1: a first round, by that's their shot. They get to

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Speaker 1: go up against the big boy. They're in the playoff,

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Speaker 1: by the way, in the playoff, and they're facing Texas

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Speaker 1: and you got Mike Norvel Steve Sarkeisans. What about that

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Speaker 1: next matchup? You got Chip Kelly as the new offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator at Ohio State facing hypel one of the best

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Speaker 1: just individual back and forths Tennessee versus Ohio State Oregon

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Speaker 1: Utah pac twelfth Pate would have a tier in the

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Speaker 1: eye remembering what once was. Oregon versus Utah also would

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Speaker 1: be a very, very big challenge for Dan Lanning and

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Speaker 1: his staff against Utah and that staff. You want to

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Speaker 1: have some fun, go check out Total experience on coaching staffs.

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Speaker 1: Find one with more than Utah. Those dudes have been

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Speaker 1: around forever. I've been forced excuse me, I've had the

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Speaker 1: privilege of watching the Hobbit movies, a precursor to the

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Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings movies. Lately Jesse, the old dude

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Speaker 1: with the beard all the way down to the ground.

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Speaker 1: What's his name, Wizard hat Gandolf? Yeah, thank you can't

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Speaker 1: believe I forgot that name. Everybody on Utah's staff is

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Speaker 1: like Gandalf. That's how old and wise they are. It's

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Speaker 1: really hard to beat those kind of teams. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's take Georgia Overbama. Let's take FSU over Texas. That's

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Speaker 1: an upset. I think that would be an upset. But remember,

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Speaker 1: we get to write this however we want to. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take Florida State over Texas. However, Utah, Ohio

481
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Speaker 1: State over Tennessee and we get to the semi finals

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Speaker 1: and we got Florida State Georgia, and you know what's

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Speaker 1: beautiful about that? We get to sort of do the

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Speaker 1: ou Texas thing. Two years ago, Texas beats Oklahoma into

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Speaker 1: a coma forty nine to nothing. One year later, Oklahoma

486
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Speaker 1: beats them outright, and you find out now the gaps

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Speaker 1: really are never as wide as they look. Well, Georgia

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Speaker 1: just splattered Florida State all over Miami, like last month,

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Speaker 1: sixty three to three was the final. We'd get to

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Speaker 1: see him. One year later, we get to see Mike

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Speaker 1: Norvel and Florida State take a shot at Georgia. One

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Speaker 1: year later, Oregon versus Ohio State. I inserted myself here

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Speaker 1: because I do. I look to subvert this process at

494
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Speaker 1: every turn. I picked Oregon versus Ohio State because number

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Speaker 1: one and to be really entertaining. But number two, it's possible.

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Speaker 1: This is the third time these teams have played somehow someway.

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Speaker 1: I want us to go ahead and just face the

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Speaker 1: possibility head on in year one, because it is a

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Speaker 1: terminal flaw in this entire system, the fact that teams

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Speaker 1: could play three times in one year. Ohio State goes

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Speaker 1: to Oregon in the regular season, there are no divisions

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten anymore, so that means they could

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Speaker 1: very well face in the Big Ten championship game, and

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Speaker 1: they could both get in the playoff and face off

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Speaker 1: again who knows what round. So I'd like to go

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Speaker 1: ahead and get that out of the way so people

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Speaker 1: can watch it and say, well, this is a little

508
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Speaker 1: messed up and see if they actually do anything about it.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day and Chip Kelly in that matchup against Dan

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Speaker 1: Landing and his staff, and then we pick the winners.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking Georgia over FSU. I'm taking Ohio State over

512
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Speaker 1: Oregon so that i can get two of the premier

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Speaker 1: rosters in the sport. Not that the others would have lacked,

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Speaker 1: but I'm getting two of the premier rosters in the sport.

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Speaker 1: Georgia seeking their third title in four years. If they

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Speaker 1: win it, that's the story. If Ohio State wins it

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day finally does what I've been dutifully informed he

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Speaker 1: can't do, and that is win the Big one and

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Speaker 1: win a national championship. And also that matchup Ryan Day

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Speaker 1: and Chip Kelly versus Kirby and Glenn Schuman and Will

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Speaker 1: mush Champ and the forty seven other former coordinators and

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Speaker 1: head coaches Kirby has there that would be a must

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Speaker 1: see TV. So you see, even after all that, what

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Speaker 1: did we wind up with the one seed versus the

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Speaker 1: two seed? And what I would love is a lot

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Speaker 1: of entertainment. But once the dust settles, you and I

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Speaker 1: look and say, wait a second, you mean we wound

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Speaker 1: up with the same championship game that the BCS would

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Speaker 1: have given us. So that I can sit here and

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Speaker 1: grin and say, yep, told you. That doesn't sound like me.

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Speaker 1: Of course I'd rarely say something like that, but be

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Speaker 1: that as it may. According to producer Jesse, that's the

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Speaker 1: perfect playoff, and I, largely given the circumstances, agree it's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Year one. Now let's get two matters that

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Speaker 1: are more immediately at hand, and many and many many

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Speaker 1: of you are watching live first off, so thank you

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Speaker 1: and make sure just typing high in the live chat

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Speaker 1: so you know we're live. Make sure also you subscribe

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00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: to the channel. And this is the time of year

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Speaker 1: where it's imperative that you just look around. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you've got a best friend over, you know, if

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00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: you're hanging out with your dad and you see that

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Speaker 1: they left their cell phone out, do the right thing.

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Speaker 1: Log in and subscribe on their accounts and then just

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Speaker 1: put phone down. Don't order anything on amazonstatemterial dot com

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Speaker 1: if you need to order something, if you're that kind

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Speaker 1: of person. But otherwise, you know, be a good parent,

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Speaker 1: be a good son, be a good neighbor, be a

549
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: good friend. What's happening with Florida State versus the ACC.

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00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: This is not a matchup that is scheduled on the field,

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00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: but it is a matchup happening in the courts, which

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Speaker 1: largely will dictate where Florida State ends up playing in

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Speaker 1: the possibly near future. Could Florida State be out of

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Speaker 1: the ACC much sooner than anyone has told you they could. Now,

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00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of boring stuff that happened this past week.

556
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: Here's basically what you need to know. Florida State is

557
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Speaker 1: suing the ACC to try and get out of the

558
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: grant of rights. Blah blah blah. They're imprisoned until like

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Speaker 1: forever if they don't get out of it. The ACC

560
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Speaker 1: is clinging to that granted rights and saying, no, you

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Speaker 1: guys signed your name to this. You're here as long

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Speaker 1: as it dictates you're going to be here, and if

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Speaker 1: you don't want that to be the case, you got

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Speaker 1: to pay us a whole lot of money. And then

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Speaker 1: this past week in court there was maybe an amicable

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Speaker 1: third way out of this, and that I think delves

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Speaker 1: a little bit into minutia. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: my Florida State brethren are really in the weeds and

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Speaker 1: dialed in on this. That's okay, But if you live

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Speaker 1: in Bozeman, Montana, if you live in Malibu, California, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of legal wrangling going on right now.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important when we talk about this whole

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Speaker 1: fsu versus ACC thing and whether they'll get out, to

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Speaker 1: remember one of me Mao's golden axioms, and that is

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Speaker 1: when the right people are motivated for change in college athletics,

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Speaker 1: change happens in college athletics. So we got to ask ourselves,

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Speaker 1: are the right people motivated for change to happen. Right here,

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Speaker 1: you've already got the acc pretty dug in, dug in

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Speaker 1: like an Alabamatic, as former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventururo would say.

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Speaker 1: And then you have Florida State in another corner, and

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Speaker 1: they want out. Then very seldom mentioned, although they should be,

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Speaker 1: as ESPN over in this shadowy third corner over here.

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Speaker 1: ESPN actually holds all the cards here. And there are

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Speaker 1: mechanisms in this grant of rights, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: you'll notice isn't in PDF form anywhere on the Internet

586
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Speaker 1: because you don't have access to it. You got a

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Speaker 1: lot of secondhand intel as to what that thing says.

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Speaker 1: But there's a reason you don't have access to it.

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Speaker 1: It's not publicly available. If it were, and if all

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Speaker 1: the details and all the cards are on the table,

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Speaker 1: you would know. Man, there's a lever on that wall

592
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Speaker 1: that ESPN could pull in the next couple of years

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Speaker 1: at their leisure that pretty much hits the dump button

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Speaker 1: on all this. I don't know if they plan on

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Speaker 1: doing it. I know that they probably know whether they

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Speaker 1: plan on doing it or not. And as you think

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Speaker 1: through all that, also remember this, if Florida State is

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Speaker 1: able to get out of this, and I believe ultimately

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Speaker 1: they'll find a way one way another, They'll find a way.

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Speaker 1: They're not leaving alone. Because while one hand is snapping

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Speaker 1: and one hand's shining a bright flashy object in your

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Speaker 1: face over here, you know, good and well, Clemson's paying

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Speaker 1: attention and moving behind the scenes. You know, North Carolina is,

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Speaker 1: you know Virginia Tech is, you know Miami is North

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Speaker 1: Carolina is? You really think those folks are sitting there saying, huh,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Florida State's gonna get out and leave

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Speaker 1: us behind. They're not getting left behind. Now. It may

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Speaker 1: be the Big ten, maybe the SEC it maybe the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve, whatever, they're not getting left behind. So you

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Speaker 1: just wonder. We saw recently what happened to the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 1: You just wonder if the ACC could be the next

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Speaker 1: conference just kind of fade off into the abyss. I

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Speaker 1: am not speaking and finale or kind of final terms here.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't know what's gonna happen. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea. I think I think the way it's being

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Speaker 1: presented right now is just this fsu versus ACC, ACC

617
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Speaker 1: versus FSU think there are more powerful parties in the

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Speaker 1: room than just those two, and they're quiet for a reason.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that this has come to a head.

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Speaker 1: It's not coming to a head. It has come to

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Speaker 1: a head. And everybody who's smart around the ACC in

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Speaker 1: Florida State that I speak to seems to think that

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Speaker 1: it's semantics for us, because they're gonna be gone one

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Speaker 1: way or another. Now, it's not semantics for everyone, because

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Speaker 1: whether you got to write a nine figure check or not,

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Speaker 1: that's not semantics. That's hardcore. That's management money. It's what

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Speaker 1: it is. But someone's gonna write the check if they

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Speaker 1: have to, or maybe they don't have to. But as

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Speaker 1: you'll notice in either of those scenarios A and B,

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Speaker 1: Florida State's gone. That's all we care about. Where do

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Speaker 1: they go? Don't know? Where do the other schools go?

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Speaker 1: Don't know? Tune in next week, I guess. Let's move

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Speaker 1: it along. How exciting you know, If you're a hardcore

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Speaker 1: fan that only cares about the on the field, we've

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Speaker 1: got plenty in the show for you tonight. If you

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Speaker 1: don't care at all about the on the field, we've

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Speaker 1: got plenty in the show for you tonight. If you

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Speaker 1: don't even care about football and you just like to

639
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Speaker 1: watch car crashes, we got stuff in the show for

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Speaker 1: you tonight. Got a little something for everyone to America's

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00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: college football buffet. Here to serve, Live to serve over here.

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Speaker 1: Who are the mystery teams in college football this year?

643
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: You may be wondering? And if you are, I got

644
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: four of them for you. Texas, A and M certainly

645
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: has to fit here. I feel like I said this

646
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: virtually every year under Jimbo Fisher. Now I was right.

647
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: They were very mysterious under Jimbo. Mike Elko walks in

648
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: and it feels like a lot has changed, and not

649
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: much has changed. A lot is changing about the team,

650
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: not much is changing in the way we refer to them,

651
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Speaker 1: because I still call him a mystery team. They've still

652
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: got a top ten talent roster with all the guys

653
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Speaker 1: who have left and all the other guys who have

654
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: come in healthy Connor Wigman this year, Yeah, yeah, at quarterback.

655
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: Maybe you know it's not just Mike Elko who came in,

656
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: by the way, Colin Klein new offensive coordinator there by

657
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: way of Kansas State, big name, big name, probably still underrated.

658
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I just think he's underrated by fans. I don't think

659
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: he's underrated by coaches. I mean Saban, I know good

660
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: and well. Saban had him in Tuscal loose and interviewed

661
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Speaker 1: him for the OC job last year at Alabama. Don't

662
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: know whether he got that solid offer, but he interviewed

663
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: for it. So he's been on major radars and Mike

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00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: Elko got him. I was talking to someone pretty close

665
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: to that program and I was asking them about specifics

666
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: I want in specific intel in specific players, and they

667
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: said that'll come in due time. They said, here's all

668
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: you need to do. Watch how they play for him.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Mike Elko And I said, I get

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Speaker 1: where you're going there. Continue and they said, no, no, no,

671
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Speaker 1: that's it. Just watch how they play for him. And

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Speaker 1: it probably wasn't the biggest secret in the world that

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00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: there was not a strong adhesive between Jimbo Fisher and

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Speaker 1: his locker room. Jimbo Fisher is pretty old school, and

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Speaker 1: his approach was we get him on campus, and it's

676
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: my job to coach and run the program. It's their

677
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: job to perform on Saturday, and we need to provide

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Speaker 1: them with you know everything they need to develop, which

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00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: is true. You know on a piece of paper, those

680
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: are your duties as head coach. But when it comes

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00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: down to margins and inches and getting one more yard

682
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Speaker 1: and winning one more a series, and you need guys

683
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Speaker 1: not to go to the edge of the cliff but

684
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Speaker 1: over the edge for you. It really helps if they

685
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Speaker 1: have a connection with you. Those guys didn't have that

686
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Speaker 1: with Jimbo. They will have it with Mike Elko. It's

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you. And I think of

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00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: I think a bunch of folks around College Station. Since that,

689
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Speaker 1: I think the SEC will come to understand that. Maybe

690
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: they won't get why, but I think they'll look at

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Speaker 1: the pride and performance of folks on the field at

692
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Speaker 1: Texas A and M, and they'll probably find themselves in

693
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Speaker 1: just something a little different about that program out there

694
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Speaker 1: in Maroon. I wonder what it is. I think that'll

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Speaker 1: be what it is. Wisconsin, Yeah, Wisconsin Big Mystery team.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, there were seven and six. Last year.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of internal transition first year staff,

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Speaker 1: going from Paul Chris to Luke Fickle. That's understandable. Their

699
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: key offensive numbers were not good enough. So they were

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Speaker 1: in the sixties and the seventies in terms of national

701
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: rankings and the key offensive metrics. And so now they've

702
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Speaker 1: brought in Tyler Van Dyke at quarterback, transferred in from Miami.

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Speaker 1: Their twentieth in returning production, they returned seventy percent of

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Speaker 1: a top forty defense. And it's year two in Luke

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Speaker 1: Fickele under Luke Fickle, and I don't think there are

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Speaker 1: ever guarantees in this sport, but I feel very very

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Speaker 1: comfortable embedding on a program year two under that guy

708
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Speaker 1: and under his staff. Real deal, Luke Fickl's a real deal.

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Speaker 1: They play at usc they got Bama at home early

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Speaker 1: in the year. Wisconsin plays Bama at home. They got

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Speaker 1: Penn State at home, they got Oregon at home. So yeah,

712
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Speaker 1: to be great if Wisconsin were to make a surprise

713
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Speaker 1: run to Indianapolis. But even if they don't, look at

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Speaker 1: how many trips they could interrupt towards going to the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game. Arizona we got to talk about

716
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Speaker 1: Arizona as one of the biggest mystery programs and teams

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Speaker 1: in the sport this year. So Arizona finished the year

718
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Speaker 1: last year not as hot as anyone what Jesse. They

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Speaker 1: won their final seven games, and then Jed Fish left

720
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Speaker 1: and he's the head coach at Washington now. And so

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Speaker 1: the initial concern shared by me as well was their

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00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: entire roster was going to leave through the transfer portal,

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Speaker 1: and some of them did, but some of the key

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Speaker 1: guys stayed. Noah Fafida, namely at quarterback, stayed, and so

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Speaker 1: McMillan or Ted mcillan, who will talk about later at

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Speaker 1: receiver stayed. It's over a thousand yard guy last year.

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Speaker 1: So Brent Brennan came in from San Jose State, their

728
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Speaker 1: top fifty in returning production. They're at Kansas State week three,

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Speaker 1: They're at Utah in week four, so kind of like Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Yet Arizona could surprise people and make a run at

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve championship. And even if they don't, they

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Speaker 1: have a shot at disrupting sort of the balance of

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Speaker 1: power in that conference this year. And one more team

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about is Syracuse. Yes, Syracuse,

735
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Speaker 1: led by Fran Brown, just took over as head coach.

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Speaker 1: There was an immediate boom, just an uptick in portal

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Speaker 1: activity in recruiting and they got Kyle McCord at quarterback

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Speaker 1: by way of Ohio State. So if I were to say,

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Speaker 1: just for example, Kyle McCord will be the best quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the ACC this year, you would laugh. You would

741
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Speaker 1: say no, no, And maybe you're right. But my question

742
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Speaker 1: is who will be definitively better? Not who had more

743
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: stars next to their name in high school anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who will be definitively better? Who would you

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Speaker 1: bet your life? That's a little strong. Who would you

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Speaker 1: bet your next paycheck on definitively being better than McCord?

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Speaker 1: Are you that confident in what dj uyang Laalay is

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Speaker 1: gonna do at Florida State? Are you that supremely confident

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Speaker 1: in what kay Klubnick will be this year? I'm not

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Speaker 1: telling you McCord's gonna run the block or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you he may be very competitive in that

752
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: all ACC voting towards the end of the season. And

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Speaker 1: if they get production like that, they they have a

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00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: schedule that's very interesting. So the out of conference Ohio,

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00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: Holy Cross, Yukon and UNLV could go three and one

756
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: four and oh there they could. They also do not

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Speaker 1: play Clemson. They do not play Florida State. There's no Louisville,

758
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: there's no North Carolina, there's no SMU. They face two

759
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: teams with preseason over underwin totals of eight or more.

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Speaker 1: Two teams, and they'll be on No one's radar, and

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Speaker 1: they could be this year's Louisville, a team that is

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00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: not on national radars, but by way of having a

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00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: kind of a first year's staff, flash on the scene

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Speaker 1: with a workable schedule. It's like you're looking up in

765
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Speaker 1: November and saying, wait a second, what's what Syracuse doing

766
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: here now? Couldn't be us. We're talking about him in February.

767
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: They're watching us in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. They're watching us in Startville, Mississippi,

768
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: and they're watching us in Davenport, Florida. Thank you, guys

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Speaker 1: soever much. We do it all year round. There is

770
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: no there's no recharge, there's no off season. I almost

771
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: said it around here, So I appreciate you guys because

772
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: of you watching and listening in the numbers that you do.

773
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: Management just says, yeah, I do the show all year

774
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Speaker 1: and we do take a sit from the chalice, excuse me,

775
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: and we continue with a very important question, well, more

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00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: a statement. I'll present it and then I'll ask what

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00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: you remember about something last year? So I asked what

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00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: the biggest story will be in twenty twenty four? According

779
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: to you guys we're Eagle Weekly. Guess where they went

780
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: with this one. They said, Hugh Freeze will revive Auburn

781
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Speaker 1: football this year. What are you remember last year? If

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Speaker 1: I were to ask you and give you five seconds

783
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: to respond, what do you remember about Auburn last year?

784
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Because I think people remember they were six and seven.

785
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: They got blasted in the Music City Bowl, I think

786
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: by Maryland. Yeah, thirty one thirteen, there it is, thank you, Colin.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that they led Georgia in the fourth quarter?

788
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: Do you remember they led Alabama in the fourth quarter?

789
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Speaker 1: They pushed Georgia and Bama to the brink more so

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00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: than almost anyone else did. Obviously, Alabama ended up, you know,

791
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: losing to Michigan, Bama lost to Texas, but by and large,

792
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Auburn and Auburn ran for over two hundred on both

793
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: of them. He's just kind of weird in an otherwise

794
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: very below average season. They just signed a top ten class,

795
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: I think the number ten class. So if you were

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Speaker 1: to tell me that Hugh Freese revives Auburn this year,

797
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: my first question, of course, would be, how do you

798
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: define revival? Eight wins, nine wins, ten wins. What do

799
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Speaker 1: we have to see? You'll know when it happens, I think,

800
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: is my answer. It's like the Supreme Court justice back

801
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: in the sixties when they were talking about certain unmentionable

802
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: things and he said, hey man, I just know it

803
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: when I see it. I'm not going to define it

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00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: for you. I just know it when I see it. Well,

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00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: an Auburn revival, I'm not going to define it. I'll

806
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 1: just know it when I see it. Quarterback, of course,

807
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be a major thing to watch for

808
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: them this year. Peyton Thorn got Walker White in there. Now.

809
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: You know, everyone always says we'll see what they do

810
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: after spring, and that's true, it's true. Do we think

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00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: they're going to go get a quarterback after spring that starts?

812
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: Hardly anyone does that. So until further notice, I'm just

813
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: going to assume they have to work with what they

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00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: have to work with. I'm actually not focused on that

815
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: so much, so there's gonna be plenty of time to

816
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: talk about quarterback positions position at Auburn. I'm more focused

817
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: on program stability at Auburn because I think there's a

818
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: fork in the road this year and things could go

819
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: one of two ways pretty drastically. I think there's absolutely

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00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: a path where Hugh Freeze gets it all figured out,

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00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: and maybe they don't win eleven games this year, but

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Speaker 1: you look at him come seasons in and you say,

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Speaker 1: he's got that thing figured out, and watch what they

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Speaker 1: do in twenty twenty five and beyond. You could find

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00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: yourself saying that. I can find myself saying that. You

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00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: could also look at him and everything feels wobbly about

827
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: the program and by November they've already lost four games

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00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: and you're saying something just seems off. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it is. Well, what it would be is the

830
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: fact that it's a very pivotal but also delicate time

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Speaker 1: and he Hugh Freeze, has had to make some staff

832
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: moves there and there is a lot of I don't

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00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to call it drama. I'll

834
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: just call it some uneasiness behind the scenes down there.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing that has to be detrimental, but it could

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Speaker 1: be something that shakes the program That's why I said

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Speaker 1: it's fork in the road time. A fork in the

838
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: road is quite literally that you come to it now

839
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: after you're already gone by it. You've chosen your course.

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00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: I don't think they're there at Auburn yet. That's what

841
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season, in many ways I think

842
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: will be. Candidly, I have circled Auburn on our speaker

843
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: series trip this upcoming spring because I want to make

844
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Speaker 1: it a point to be down there, like I want

845
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: to go sit in front of Hugh Free's I want

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Speaker 1: to get him on the show and I forget me.

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Speaker 1: I want you to hear it come from his mouth,

848
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Speaker 1: because he's dealing with the same kind of stuff down

849
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: there that many a coach before him has dealt with,

850
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: even though he's shown he knows how to win before

851
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: everybody has to shift philosophically in this day and age,

852
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: however long, this little window we're in last where you

853
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: have to build rosters the way that you do, and

854
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: also think about what he inherited, and think about how

855
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: combustible things were around the program, and there were some

856
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: guys who he retained on his staff that have since

857
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: moved on. There's all a ways stuff going on behind

858
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,920
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859
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: knew about it, you think to yourself, wow, how do

860
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: they even keep it on track? Hey, I got news

861
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: for you. The teams that win championships have that stuff

862
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes. It's not just the team

863
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: struggling to keep their head above water record wise. So

864
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: fork in the road season for Auburn this year, I

865
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: could absolutely see a path where Hugh freeze Man rights

866
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: the ship and they're right there in SEC Championship contention.

867
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: Next year, I could see that. I could also see

868
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: a path where they're miles and miles from that, and

869
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a whole lot of skill

870
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,600
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871
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: riding a statement as I'll make, and I'm good at it,

872
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: especially in February. But I really don't have a feel

873
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: for Auburn right now. Wish I did, but I do not.

874
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: Let's move it along. This is a good question. Who

875
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: asked this question, Jesse? This portal versus recruiting. Okay, so

876
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: everybody's got a feeling on this. I would imagine we'll

877
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: have a very spirited comment section on this one, Solomon

878
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: from Little Rock, Arkansas asked, what do you think is

879
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: the best way to balance the transfer portal and recruiting

880
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: in today's college football? Some teams are going all in

881
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: on one or the other, while others are doing a

882
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: more mixed approach. Is there a way that you think

883
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: is best? So Solomon did not do it this way,

884
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: but a lot of people have really strong, definitive takes

885
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: on this, and I think it's too new. I think

886
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: this stuff is so new that even even guys who

887
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: had a very very established way of doing it as

888
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: recently as last year have probably overhauled like thirty percent

889
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: of that. I know some of them have expressed that,

890
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: and then others you can just observe it and you

891
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: can see that, hey man, they's second guessing some things.

892
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: That's totally normal. It's new foreign territory. So everyone's figuring

893
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: it out at the same time. That's the good news.

894
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: The good news is they didn't try this out in

895
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: one conference for a decade, and then all of a

896
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: sudden it gets introduced in your conference. It got dropped

897
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: in everyone's lap, so everyone's trying to figure it out. Now,

898
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: you got some very notable examples right now. Dave Aranda

899
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: at Baylor's one of them. Aranda, as recently as two

900
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: years ago, is the talk of college football, and he

901
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: wins the Big Twelve championship, and he's got his name

902
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: at the forefront of every premier coaching list in college football,

903
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they fall off a cliff.

904
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: We did program rankings the other night. We don't even

905
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: have them top ten in the Big Twelve right now.

906
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: And he's making staff moves out there. But what Oranda

907
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: is is brutally honest about himself, and he has admitted publicly.

908
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: I just didn't take transfer portal serious and I was wrong.

909
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not the way to do it. And

910
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: it's not that we're ever going to build through the portal,

911
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: but we aired in judgment initially, and now we're trying

912
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: to rectify that. Now, if that was Kirby Smart at Georgia,

913
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: you can fix that really quick. It's harder to have

914
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: quick fixes at play like Baylor. So a few beliefs

915
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: that I've sort of gathered on this thing. None of

916
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: these are written in sharpie. They're all written in pencil.

917
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: But I think if you live in the portal, you'll

918
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: eventually die. But I think if you try and ignore

919
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: the portal completely, you'll also either die or you'll starve

920
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: your program and deny its ability to reach its full potential.

921
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: I think you've got to be sure to define the

922
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: same critical factors and characteristics in the portal as you

923
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: do recruiting high school kids, because what makes no sense

924
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: in the world is if you've got thirteen critical factors

925
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: that you need checked before you offer a defensive back

926
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 1: out of high school, but you got one who's playing

927
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: for Arizona State right now, or you got one transformed

928
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Speaker 1: from cal right now, they only check five of them,

929
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: but you just offer him anyway. That makes no sense,

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00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: And especially if you're cutting corners on what you expect

931
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: in terms of character the neck up traits in exchange

932
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: for you know, just feeling like you've fortified your locker

933
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: room just writing a name on the grease board. That

934
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: is a shortcut to very very detrimental outcomes internally. And

935
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot of teams experienced that last year. I don't

936
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: think I need to explain to you because I think

937
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Speaker 1: you can see it play out on the field in

938
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Speaker 1: the fall who experienced that also this is where I'm hopeful.

939
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: I think this is all a window. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is just the way it's gonna be. I think

941
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: maybe maybe three years down the road, maybe seven years

942
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: down the road, we will all coaches and fans alike

943
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: look back on this period and say, can you believe

944
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: what this sport was for a few years, and then

945
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: twenty years from now, it'll be documentary material that for

946
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: a little while. It's like the New Coke era of

947
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948
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the greatest sport in the world

949
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Speaker 1: folks at Coca Cola had the highest selling soft drink

952
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,360
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953
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,360
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Speaker 1: Who wants coke anymore? Well, it turned out a lot

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00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,120
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956
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957
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958
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959
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Speaker 1: And we're speaking in twenty thirty at this point in

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961
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: that point twenty forty twenty fifty and say, can you

962
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963
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964
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965
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966
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Speaker 1: or one more year, or a few more years. It

967
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Speaker 1: hasn't changed, though it both hasn't hasn't changed because it's

968
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,680
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969
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: Mike Elico at Texas A and m fran Brown at

970
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: Syracuse perfect examples of how that can impact what you're

971
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: able to do. Mike Norvel's done it at Florida State.

972
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: So when you're new on the job, it used to

973
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,319
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974
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,600
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975
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: years minimum patience. And now you can just fortify through

976
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,319
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977
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978
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979
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: it has not changed how that same staff ultimately wants

980
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981
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983
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984
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Speaker 1: One of the most lethal receiver rooms in the country.

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Speaker 1: Trey Harris is a part of It's another year with

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Speaker 1: I know the video games coming back this fall, but

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't, you would get something very similar by

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Speaker 1: just watching Ole Miss's offense and what they do this year.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to Oregon for a second because I got

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Speaker 1: two names out there. Evan Stewart just transferred there from

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M. And Tees Johnson's out there. Johnson

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Speaker 1: had over eleven hundred nearly twelve hundred yards and ten

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Speaker 1: touchdowns last year, had one hundred and seventy two in

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Speaker 1: the Bowl game. Evan Stewart, like many other offensive pieces

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Speaker 1: at Texas A and M, underachieved relative to their ability

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Speaker 1: level last year. So he gets plugged into an offense

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Speaker 1: this year where if he underachieves, it's probably on him

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Speaker 1: because he'll be put in perfect position. He'll be a

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll open the floor for debate on that.

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Speaker 1: Easily one of the best one twos at wide receiver

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Speaker 1: What about Luther Burden, second time he's gotten to mention

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Speaker 1: last year Luther Burden had ten games where he had

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Speaker 1: star talent very easily also gets Brady Cook at wide

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Speaker 1: They at Missouri are prioritizing keeping guys like that home

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Speaker 1: a guy to watch this year and Also, I mentioned

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Speaker 1: at Arizona had ninety catches over fourteen hundred yards receiving

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