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Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith, joined by coach Dave McGinnis
Speaker 1: and Rhetbrian from Titans Radio. Here in the bet MGM studio. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: great to have you with us.
Speaker 2: It is good to be here. Great to be here.
Speaker 2: Week seventeen.
Speaker 3: Here we go, here we are.
Speaker 2: Will Levis wants to play.
Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, what is the balance between being excited that
Speaker 1: your young quarterback wants to play and trying to play
Speaker 1: with everything he's doing, and then protecting him from himself.
Speaker 3: Well, they'll they'll have to determine whether he can protect
Speaker 3: himself with movement because you know one day of practice
Speaker 3: he participated fully on the first day, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: a full speed day, which you know, they're trying to
Speaker 3: get everybody up to speed, as you said, at the
Speaker 3: seventeenth week of the season. But as the week unfolds,
Speaker 3: seeing if he can protect himself movement wise, you know,
Speaker 3: throwing wise and everything of that nature. He's fine, but
Speaker 3: it's just you know, with a lower extremity injury. You
Speaker 3: want to be sure your quarterback can get himself out
Speaker 3: of harm's way, because we all know that they're sooner
Speaker 3: or later. Any quarterback in the league is going to
Speaker 3: have to move and maneuver the cylinder. So that's what
Speaker 3: they'll look at.
Speaker 1: Fans say, he's been involved with a team that has
Speaker 1: given up fifty six sacks this year. He hasn't taken
Speaker 1: all of them, but they have given up fifty six sacks.
Speaker 1: So don't send him out there for the last two games.
Speaker 1: How do you answer that?
Speaker 3: No, you got you know you're competing. You you cannot.
Speaker 3: You cannot play coach this game or play this game
Speaker 3: with fear of something bad might happen. You've got to
Speaker 3: out go out there and make something good happen. That's
Speaker 3: just not how you approach it at all. But they
Speaker 3: will consider his health as far as to what he
Speaker 3: can do to protect himself, and then I mean my
Speaker 3: answer to that is block them.
Speaker 1: Right, what is the value in him playing the last
Speaker 1: two games?
Speaker 3: He still needs experience. This is going to be the quarterback,
Speaker 3: he's the quarterback of the future, and he still needs experience.
Speaker 3: He's had eight games and that's a small microcosm of
Speaker 3: what he needs to develop. Being a starting quarterback in
Speaker 3: the National Football League and playing two division games coming up.
Speaker 3: Those take on a different nature unto themselves, and so
Speaker 3: any experience that he gets right now, you can do
Speaker 3: all the whiteboard stuff you want, you can do all
Speaker 3: the walkthroughs you want, you can do all the film
Speaker 3: study you want. But until you experience it full and
Speaker 3: in life and when everything is rolling, that experience doesn't
Speaker 3: get embedded in your DNA. That's what he needs.
Speaker 1: He watched the first six games of the year ret
Speaker 1: then he started the next eight, and then he watched
Speaker 1: last Sunday. I thought in his press availability this week,
Speaker 1: Will Levis was very insightful about how different it was
Speaker 1: to watch last week than it was in September in October.
Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the reasons why, outside
Speaker 2: of the obvious one that coach Mack pointed out about competing,
Speaker 2: I think you want to see what he does when
Speaker 2: he gets the next opportunity after he's had a different
Speaker 2: vantage point. You know, first handful of weeks there of
Speaker 2: the regular season, he was doing it watching him from
Speaker 2: the sidelines as the emergency quarterback. And now he has
Speaker 2: a different perspective. But he did. He told all of
Speaker 2: us how much it was different, in how much more
Speaker 2: quickly the game will come to him and is coming
Speaker 2: to him because of things that he recognizes and sees
Speaker 2: as they're out there trying to do their thing, and he's,
Speaker 2: you know, an observer.
Speaker 1: What's the most impressive thing you've seen will Levis do
Speaker 1: as a rookie coach?
Speaker 3: Mac He's he's fearless in the pocket. He is fearless
Speaker 3: in the pocket. And then you know, you can you
Speaker 3: can watch somebody, uh throw the ball when there's not
Speaker 3: live things coming at him and you and making quick decisions.
Speaker 3: But his ability to stand in until the last instant
Speaker 3: and then flick it and get it downfield and get
Speaker 3: it to where it needs to go, that's very impressive.
Speaker 3: But the first thing is is he doesn't watch the rush.
Speaker 3: He doesn't watch the rush most young quarterbacks sooner or later.
Speaker 3: You mentioned the number of sacks. He hasn't taken all
Speaker 3: of those, but he's taken too many of them, but
Speaker 3: it still has not detereared him from looking downfield and
Speaker 3: letting routes develop. He's not looking at the rush and
Speaker 3: that's the first thing you look for, you know, if
Speaker 3: you know, it's like taking a you know, getting a
Speaker 3: brand new hunting dog and the first time that gun
Speaker 3: goes off, is he gonna flinch or is he gonna
Speaker 3: is he gonna? Is he gonna watch when the bird
Speaker 3: goes down and go to get it and he doesn't flinch.
Speaker 3: That's what impresses me.
Speaker 1: Reference to a hunting dog here early in the OTP
Speaker 1: sounds like a franchise hunting dog.
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of references. I know you in
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 1: I love I love the references. I wish we were
Speaker 1: winning more because I think the references come out more
Speaker 1: on Titan's radio when we're winning. They do, and they're
Speaker 1: just less up.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know you've heard that. You've heard that, that
Speaker 3: old axiom that dog will hunt. Yes, well that comes
Speaker 3: from when you drop the tailgate, you know, and you
Speaker 3: got you got hunting dogs that they're ready to go,
Speaker 3: jump out, spinning around, ready to go. And you got
Speaker 3: that one sitting in the back going what are we doing?
Speaker 3: You don't want that one?
Speaker 2: Yes, will Levis is the first group of dogs.
Speaker 3: Till Levis is the first one out of the tailgate.
Speaker 1: But he has pocket awareness. He really does, because because
Speaker 1: some guys, I mean, like David Carr, for example, was
Speaker 1: a quarterback who took seventy two sacks in a year
Speaker 1: and it was like he just never knew it was coming.
Speaker 1: And there are some quarterbacks that just stand in there
Speaker 1: and you're like, fella, I mean, you've got to have
Speaker 1: awareness that there has to be that clock in your head.
Speaker 1: And I sense that while Levis has the toughness to
Speaker 1: not look at the rush, he also does have the
Speaker 1: clock in his head.
Speaker 3: Well he does, but you know, and David carrs is
Speaker 3: a great example. Of course. You know, he was with
Speaker 3: a brand new team, right he had put a lot
Speaker 3: of brand new guys together. I had David Carr and
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl when I was the head coach down there,
Speaker 3: and he had all the physical attributes you want and
Speaker 3: he was a smart guy. But you could see him
Speaker 3: start looking at the rush about halfway through his rookie
Speaker 3: year because as you said, it wasn't only the awareness.
Speaker 3: He didn't know what was coming from and that and
Speaker 3: he never got out of that and that was a shame.
Speaker 1: But he did win a Super Bowl with the Giants.
Speaker 1: He was the backup quarterback. He now he's on TV.
Speaker 3: And you know what, and doing a good job with
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 1: He does a nice job on television.
Speaker 2: You know the other thing that impresses me about will
Speaker 2: levis in the eight games that he started, it'd be
Speaker 2: easy for a guy like him, who's afforded a great
Speaker 2: weapon in DeAndre Hopkins, just to go there a bunch.
Speaker 2: He found all how many of those games? In post
Speaker 2: game we're talking about, he found six and seven different
Speaker 2: receivers and deals the ball to to You know, he
Speaker 2: doesn't he didn't go into the well at one particular Well,
Speaker 2: he's distributing the ball like you would want to see
Speaker 2: a pro quarterback do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's been coached to do that well.
Speaker 3: And that's a good point that Rehd makes because the
Speaker 3: first time he went out there, he was forcing the
Speaker 3: ball to hop. He was forcing the ball to Hop
Speaker 3: And I think I wasn't privy to their conversations, but
Speaker 3: they talk a lot, and I'm sure you know that
Speaker 3: that DeAndre Hopkins has helped him a lot. And I'm
Speaker 3: and I know DeAndre Hopkins is not telling him just
Speaker 3: throw it to me, because DeAndre Hopkins is way savvy
Speaker 3: in the way that this works. And to Rett's point,
Speaker 3: you have seen him grow in that instance. Now is
Speaker 3: he there yet? No, he's not there yet. That's why,
Speaker 3: again back to the original question, why it's important or
Speaker 3: why it would be helpful if he could be able
Speaker 3: to play these next two weeks those types of things.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Hopkins go back to Houston and
Speaker 1: have a good game, because he had a less than
Speaker 1: stellar game against Houston when the two teams played up here,
Speaker 1: and it would be nice he'd get a chance to
Speaker 1: go over one thousand yards back in the familiar stomping grounds.
Speaker 1: Derek Henry very close to his fifth thousand yard season,
Speaker 1: I'd like to see him be able to accomplish that.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are individual marks that are out there.
Speaker 1: We talk about Hopkins with a thousand yards, we talk
Speaker 1: about Henry with a thousand yards. Landry is a half
Speaker 1: sack away from double digits. He's got nine and a half.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about the fact that Deniko Autrey is
Speaker 1: four sacks away from setting the franchise record for sacks in.
Speaker 2: A season that's hard to believe, and career numbers for him,
Speaker 2: career numbers at age thirty three, twelve quarterback sacks.
Speaker 3: Well, and it just shows with this season with seven
Speaker 3: one score losses. It's not like you were getting rolled
Speaker 3: every ball, right, and guys are playing and of course
Speaker 3: any of these guys would trade any of those individuals
Speaker 3: for wins. I mean you ask any one of them,
Speaker 3: they would. But it's an important part of it because
Speaker 3: and they are still performing at a high level. Everybody
Speaker 3: that you just mentioned, I mean, all of those guys
Speaker 3: are professionals to the max. They're performing at a high
Speaker 3: level regardless of the disappointment of not We've talked about
Speaker 3: this before. The rewards in this league are not money.
Speaker 3: The rewards are winning games, but they're still going at
Speaker 3: it even without that reward at the end that has
Speaker 3: been you know, happened seven times with one score losses.
Speaker 1: Feel like we're going to get a healthier football team
Speaker 1: this weekend.
Speaker 2: It sure seems like it. And I think that would
Speaker 2: based off of just the initial look at the injury
Speaker 2: report that came out Wednesday afternoon, in the fact that
Speaker 2: I know they probably didn't do a ton of things,
Speaker 2: but there was no one who didn't participate, right. That
Speaker 2: was my just looking at things Okay, where's the silver
Speaker 2: lining here? Okay, that's good.
Speaker 3: So you know, I think healthy relative to where we
Speaker 3: are now. Yeah, healthier than last week, Healthier.
Speaker 2: Than last week. Well, he declared what eight players out
Speaker 2: on Friday, Coach Frabele did.
Speaker 1: Right, and then had to put some on ir because
Speaker 1: they just weren't going to be ready to get back
Speaker 1: for the next week. It's it's not that guys would
Speaker 1: necessarily be out for the year in some of the cases.
Speaker 1: It's that you need a healthy body. Now there you go.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like that's going to be the case
Speaker 1: at the end of this week. And so that's a
Speaker 1: good thing is that you know, potentially could take a
Speaker 1: team down there that has more available bodies and some
Speaker 1: more experience as part of it. I mean, you looked
Speaker 1: at last week. If you took out the three specialists,
Speaker 1: Josh Wiley wasn't going to play. He was dressed, but
Speaker 1: he was not going to play. And then you know,
Speaker 1: a couple other guys were kind of dinged up too.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had maybe forty one forty two guys
Speaker 1: who could.
Speaker 2: Really who could really help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're being honest, that's exactly that's that's the number.
Speaker 3: That's the number they You know, they had guys dressed.
Speaker 3: It's a great point that you might, but they didn't
Speaker 3: have a full compliment of players that could help in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 1: And Houston was not good against Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, we've mentioned it on the OTP before,
Speaker 2: that Cleveland defense real deal. But yeah, they made life
Speaker 2: difficult for them. I mean case Keenum throws two interceptions
Speaker 2: pretty early on. They end up putting Davis Mills in there,
Speaker 2: and offensively, they had no answer for a month of
Speaker 2: Mauri Cooper. I mean they just they dominated.
Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty five yards receiving. Do you have
Speaker 1: him on your fantasy team?
Speaker 2: I do not. I wish that I did.
Speaker 1: I had you playing. Were you playing the guy who
Speaker 1: had or the person?
Speaker 2: No? No? And I did lose in this round, but
Speaker 2: not by a ton of points because if the guy
Speaker 2: played had him, it would have been a boat race pros.
Speaker 1: So let me let me ask you this question, who
Speaker 1: who are the best players in twenty twenty three in fantasy?
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey has to be.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, absolutely who else? Uh, I'll tell you one
Speaker 2: who has been really good as a rookie two that
Speaker 2: have been good as rookies Jamir Gibbs, the running back
Speaker 2: for the Detroit Lions. Okay, Sam Laporta, the rookie tied
Speaker 2: end for the Detroit I had both of them, okay.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you one that's a solid person who
Speaker 2: just gets you double digit digit points every week is
Speaker 2: Rashie Rice with the Kansas City Chiefs because they don't
Speaker 2: have a lot of the weapons they've been used to having.
Speaker 1: I've never played fantasy, so I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how this works. And the reason I don't play fantasy
Speaker 1: is because I don't want to pull for a player
Speaker 1: against the Titans, because I'm I'm a competitive person, so
Speaker 1: if I'm playing. When I used to play Fantasy Baseball,
Speaker 1: I was like up every more reading the box scores.
Speaker 1: You know, crazy, just crazy, and so but I don't
Speaker 1: want to pull against anybody against the Titans because I
Speaker 1: don't want one of my players on my fantasy team
Speaker 1: to score a touchdown against the Titans. And I get
Speaker 1: just as excited about them as I do a Titan
Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown, which could happen, because I would lose
Speaker 1: it and then that would be bad.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of times when I construct my roster,
Speaker 2: I have that in mind, going, oh, they're not playing
Speaker 2: them this year.
Speaker 1: I like to take this guy. Yeah, I see I could.
Speaker 1: I'm too I can't do it.
Speaker 3: Sure, I never have.
Speaker 1: Never you did real football. You don't have to hang
Speaker 1: around with bozo's like us, who have to you know,
Speaker 1: pick Well, there's thirty one years of you got to
Speaker 1: pick pick the team.
Speaker 3: There's other reasons I like hanging with both of sols,
Speaker 3: like y'all, well, okay, there's other reasons. Fantasy football is
Speaker 3: way down the list.
Speaker 2: I've played fantasy football off and on for over twenty years,
Speaker 2: and I really I enjoy it. It's a good thing
Speaker 2: to do with your friends or co workers, buddies, whatever.
Speaker 3: You make money.
Speaker 2: Uh. When I used to play in a league for
Speaker 2: those things. Yes, this league is just for pride. There's
Speaker 2: nothing invested so much get you zero. But I made
Speaker 2: it to the semi finals in the league that I'm
Speaker 2: in this year, which I thought that's pretty good because
Speaker 2: I had Justin Jefferson and the quarterback with the Vikings
Speaker 2: who three to Kirk Cousins, both you know, injured off
Speaker 2: throughout the year, and that kind of. So I felt
Speaker 2: fortunate that I made it that far in the thing.
Speaker 2: But it's fun, that's the thing about it's it's fun.
Speaker 1: But who was the first pick in your draft? I'm
Speaker 1: interested to know who who is?
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I think it was Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, because I took I took Justin Jefferson to overall.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know the fantasy football that the Titans sponsored that,
Speaker 3: you know, I went to the event that they had,
Speaker 3: you know, where they had the drafting, where they had
Speaker 3: the drifting.
Speaker 2: Fascinating.
Speaker 3: Fascinating that Now, that fascinates me because I mean those
Speaker 3: people had computers, they they knew all they knew.
Speaker 2: What was all electronic.
Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was real. It was a
Speaker 3: snake draft, and I was I was fascinated by it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: They asked me, would you come there and spend about
Speaker 3: half an hour just visit with everybody, which I have
Speaker 3: no problem.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: But I stayed for a long time just watching it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's fascinating the details that go into it.
Speaker 1: Well, what's funny is when fantasy became a thing, we
Speaker 1: could not play as NFL employees. Correct, we were not
Speaker 1: allowed to play. Correct was gambling. And then the NFL
Speaker 1: realized how many people were playing fantasy. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: so then all of a sudden, fantasy was great, so
Speaker 1: that then the league was sponsoring fantasy, embraced it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like, what's happened with gambling? Sure it's It's like
Speaker 1: so when when the realization hits that there's a way
Speaker 1: to do it to you know, up your product.
Speaker 2: Prophet is not a dirty word.
Speaker 1: Prophet is not a dirty word. But it's also at
Speaker 1: the time, and I think it's probably even higher than this. Now,
Speaker 1: one in ten Americans was playing fantasy football, and to me,
Speaker 1: I believe it.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's great for the game, sure it is.
Speaker 2: I have at the heart of the way that fantasy
Speaker 2: football has gone for I guess it's been around thirty years,
Speaker 2: maybe thirty five, whatever it is. I have a cousin,
Speaker 2: Greg who lives in Memphis, and he literally has been
Speaker 2: playing fantasy football with his same friends from college for
Speaker 2: thirty one years on the lague r They all it's
Speaker 2: how they stay together, stay in touch with each other, right,
Speaker 2: life things happens, They go play golf together, but all
Speaker 2: the time. He's the one that kind of got me
Speaker 2: turned onto it years ago. Cousin Greg, cousin Greg's big
Speaker 2: from Memphis. Yeah, cousin Greg from Memphis. Yea, works for
Speaker 2: FedEx and has for his whole career, and but he
Speaker 2: loves fantasy football and it's a way he and his
Speaker 2: college buddies have stayed connected.
Speaker 3: I really I like I like it for what it does.
Speaker 3: I really do. I really I like it for what
Speaker 3: it does.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why the NFL whips everybody else in terms
Speaker 1: of the ratings, is because they have so many different
Speaker 1: ways that they pull you in and they're always looking
Speaker 1: to pull at any thread to add audience. It's like
Speaker 1: just what they did on Christmas. You know, the NBA
Speaker 1: was always supposedly the owners of Christmas in terms of television.
Speaker 1: Well guess what, guess what not this time? Not this time.
Speaker 1: And you know, there there's some talk is when when
Speaker 1: Christmas is on different days, does the NFL play a
Speaker 1: Wednesday game? That's what will be next year Wednesday because
Speaker 1: it's a leap year, and so yeah, do they start
Speaker 1: looking to do that. But fantasy football was one of
Speaker 1: the first threads that they pulled. They understood the power
Speaker 1: of the draft, and we understand it. I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: spend the next four months doing draft related things on
Speaker 1: the OTP, on Tennessee Titans dot Com, on the Titans
Speaker 1: YouTube site. Everything we do will be available via one
Speaker 1: of our platforms. Yes, because people love the draft and
Speaker 1: then the gambling aspect, you know them talking about gambling
Speaker 1: now on ESPN and other things about here's the over
Speaker 1: and under, and here's the line, and here here's.
Speaker 2: I've got some interesting prop bets for you.
Speaker 1: Well, but you know that used to be an outlier,
Speaker 1: and the thing was, you didn't you know, like I
Speaker 1: couldn't have when I did a radio show, I could
Speaker 1: not have a gambling guy on because I was in
Speaker 1: a college town and I was on the flagship station
Speaker 1: for the for the University of Tennessee, and so I
Speaker 1: could not have a gambling guy on.
Speaker 2: Well, now gambling.
Speaker 1: Guys are They're part of every segment of of different
Speaker 1: shows everywhere. So you have all of these different things
Speaker 1: that pull people in, and it's it's like the Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift thing. The league is embracing the Taylor Swift thing
Speaker 1: because it pulls more people in, It brings in a
Speaker 1: little bit different audience of people who who want to
Speaker 1: be interested.
Speaker 3: Well, because this is you know, professional football is professional sports,
Speaker 3: but it's also the entertainment. It is entertainment, it's entertainment business,
Speaker 3: and it's all of that stuff is great. I hope
Speaker 3: the Titans invite me back for their fantasy draft next year.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought i'd say, you'll get an invitation.
Speaker 2: I would say, so, well, I'm begging for one here
Speaker 2: on the kind of are what is it? What is
Speaker 2: it about the draft process of that that interests you?
Speaker 3: The fact that first of all people are they are?
Speaker 3: I love, of course, you know, the real draft, how
Speaker 3: much I'd love that. We all sure done that in
Speaker 3: my whole life. You know, I've got notebooks full of
Speaker 3: draft stuff. But I was amazed at how knowledgeable everybody was.
Speaker 3: And it was it was all different types of people
Speaker 3: on the team, but they all knew and as I said,
Speaker 3: they all had their computers there, and so you know,
Speaker 3: I would I would go around to each table and
Speaker 3: start talking, and then they would I'd say, well, who
Speaker 3: who you guys looking at? And when I opened that can,
Speaker 3: when I opened that can up, they could start telling
Speaker 3: me start pulling and seeing it and here's where this
Speaker 3: I was going, Wow, these people are invested in this.
Speaker 2: But that's what I like, wouldn't you say that?
Speaker 1: Over the last seven years joining Titans Radio, that finding
Speaker 1: out that fans are as invested as they are and
Speaker 1: are as knowledgeable as they are is maybe the thing
Speaker 1: you've enjoyed learning the most.
Speaker 3: Well, I've enjoyed. I've enjoyed it. It's a great point.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed now being able to interact with the fans,
Speaker 3: right because as a coach, you don't get that chance,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe once or twice a year at a
Speaker 3: you know, at a at a big event that you're
Speaker 3: asked to go to you can do that. But now
Speaker 3: I can be. I can be with the fans, and yes,
Speaker 3: I love that. And and fans of the National Football League,
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, they're fans of the National Football League.
Speaker 3: They are fervent about fervent about it, and I love
Speaker 3: that well.
Speaker 1: And that's a mistake I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: in coaching, no matter what level it is, make is
Speaker 1: they assume that people, all all fans, all fans are dopey.
Speaker 1: That's the assumption that some coaches makes every wrong. It
Speaker 1: is completely wrong. And then there are other coaches who don't.
Speaker 1: We have a coach here who does not think all
Speaker 1: fans are dope and not at all. Mike Rabel doesn't
Speaker 1: feel that way. But when you you know, if you
Speaker 1: open yourself up to it, and it's like some guys too.
Speaker 1: And this is interesting rep because how many guys get
Speaker 1: out of coaching, go into media and then in some
Speaker 1: cases go back into coaching and they have a different
Speaker 1: vantage point from where they've been dealing with fans, dealing
Speaker 1: with people behind the scenes at ESPN or CBS or
Speaker 1: wherever they are, and it makes them better, It helps them.
Speaker 2: They're more amenable, sure are because more respectful, they are
Speaker 2: understanding of what is really good. They've walked in some
Speaker 2: different shoes, right, they really have in a small way.
Speaker 2: It's what we've just been talking about with Will Levis.
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what he does if he plays
Speaker 2: in these last two games with that one game of
Speaker 2: watching from the sidelines with a different perspective now that
Speaker 2: he's played and started eight games prior.
Speaker 1: That's a good comparison.
Speaker 3: That's a good point, good point.
Speaker 1: And then some coaches don't care at all.
Speaker 2: Zero zero.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's a certain level you can't care
Speaker 1: what everybody thinks and what everybody's that's that's different though.
Speaker 3: That's different worrying about what people think are as far
Speaker 3: as respecting people's fervor for the game, and that's that's
Speaker 3: a that's a big thing to me, and I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I mean I enjoy everything about Titans Radio. I mean
Speaker 3: it's it's it's great. I mean, there's a lot of things,
Speaker 3: but some of the most fun is after a ball game,
Speaker 3: especially at home, when the Titans win, being able to
Speaker 3: hang out of that window and see the fans it's waving.
Speaker 1: Like the Pope of have to hold his legs as
Speaker 1: he hangs out to it.
Speaker 2: I don't want him to fall out. That would not
Speaker 2: be good.
Speaker 3: I just love that because there everybody everybody can because
Speaker 3: that's the that is the reward for this whole thing,
Speaker 3: and the fans feel it. I mean they live it,
Speaker 3: they feel it, and I respect that.
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Speaker 1: the place to do it. Seat geek, then do official
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Speaker 2: So the Titans fans can fan nicely done Red wave
Speaker 2: out the window.
Speaker 1: Hey can wave out the window. Coach, So I want
Speaker 1: to I want to go into an area of expertise
Speaker 1: that Coach Mack has has certainly shown on the OTP lately.
Speaker 1: You are the great defender of officials among us. You
Speaker 1: started this two weeks ago defending them for calling off
Speaker 1: sides in a in a late game situation in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: They called it again.
Speaker 1: I know, I know they and then they started calling
Speaker 1: it again miraculous during the holiday season. We had another
Speaker 1: miraculous after I don't know, yes it was anyway, what's
Speaker 1: the deal not signaling anything after the DK Metcalf play
Speaker 1: in the end zone last Sunday at Nissan Stadium. He
Speaker 1: catches or doesn't catch a pass.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Nobody signals anything. Explain that to me, Coach, What what
Speaker 1: teaching point is that in the officials? In the officials,
Speaker 1: I think, I think you go to page three, page
Speaker 1: three and go pay three and say not good professional malpractice.
Speaker 2: Went in doubt. Don't do anything quent in doubt. Just
Speaker 2: fade away.
Speaker 3: That's awful.
Speaker 1: So he catches the ball, but the question is did
Speaker 1: he possess it? And did he get two feet down?
Speaker 1: There's an official standing right there.
Speaker 3: That's way too many questions. You can't expect you've got
Speaker 3: to that's way too many questions. The answers.
Speaker 1: The answer is if he's not sure, signal touchdown, because
Speaker 1: then it is automatically reviewed.
Speaker 2: Because they are anyway.
Speaker 3: The answer is, it's horrible, but it's professional malpractice. Mike.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm standing, I'm standing right there with you.
Speaker 1: But I think on Titan's radio at that point, I've
Speaker 1: gone crazy because I'm looking out there, I see nothing,
Speaker 1: and at that that's the biggest fear in what we
Speaker 1: do is that, you know, because radio is not a
Speaker 1: visual medium, so people can't see it. We're trying to
Speaker 1: help them see it through the radio, so to speak.
Speaker 1: And the guy gives no signal. Nobody gives any signal.
Speaker 3: Why would he?
Speaker 1: Why nobody anywhere gives any signals.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something.
Speaker 1: They don't throw the arms up, they don't, they don't
Speaker 1: wave in complete.
Speaker 2: It's like the play never happened.
Speaker 1: It's like it never happened.
Speaker 3: Can I ask both of you something. Why would they
Speaker 3: give a signal? I mean they're only they're only officials.
Speaker 3: I mean, why would they give it us mark the ball?
Speaker 3: It's awful.
Speaker 1: Well, so I look at Brad Willis. Whose spots and
Speaker 1: by the way, if they're present, company excluded because you
Speaker 1: were a very great, great spot or at when you
Speaker 1: did that job. Brad Willis is a fabulous spot, tremendous.
Speaker 1: I mean he I could just I could not look
Speaker 1: at the field and just look at Brad and he
Speaker 1: could show me the game. I could do the game
Speaker 1: just looking at him, because he could point here's who's
Speaker 1: got the ball, Here's where the ball went. He I mean,
Speaker 1: he's amazing. I look at him, thinking, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the point where I've lost my mind. I knew it
Speaker 1: would happen someday, but this is the point. You listen,
Speaker 1: I thought, at that moment in time, I thought, I
Speaker 1: have lost twenty four. And they've got that camera right
Speaker 1: there in the booth on us, And so you could
Speaker 1: see the look of horror on my face because I
Speaker 1: don't know what's happened. Because he's going away from us.
Speaker 1: He's at the far end of the field, far end
Speaker 1: to us. He's on the far end of the far
Speaker 1: end of He's on the far end of the end zone,
Speaker 1: on the far end of the field. Yes, we can't
Speaker 1: see it. It's obvious he's caught the ball, but we
Speaker 1: can't tell and no signals. So I look at Brad
Speaker 1: and Brad looks at me like I got nothing. I
Speaker 1: got nothing, I got absolutely nothing. It I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't do that, do the.
Speaker 2: Total deer in the headlights total mike.
Speaker 3: It It just it just points out. And again, I
Speaker 3: know how hard it is. I lived I lived on
Speaker 3: the sideline for thirty one years. I know how hard
Speaker 3: it is. But it's not hard to do your job.
Speaker 3: And when you're that indecisive, I think all the instant
Speaker 3: replay is paralyzed these guys. It has paralyzed these guys
Speaker 3: to the point as and again I keep talking about
Speaker 3: they fast tracked people into this league so fast that
Speaker 3: it's just it's it's it's too much for him. It's
Speaker 3: like the screen went blank on that dude. And I'm
Speaker 3: just sitting there looking going this is amazing because the
Speaker 3: no call and it took them a while to sort
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you. Yeah, there's been talk about
Speaker 2: will they ever be be made full time officials. I
Speaker 2: don't think that will matter, is okay, that's my question.
Speaker 1: Well what would they My question to that is I've
Speaker 1: heard the advocates for full time officials.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what would.
Speaker 1: They do all day?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But here's the thing, Touchdown fantasy Football are so they'll
Speaker 4: watch every play that ever happened, and that I think
Speaker 4: they're just paralyzed right now.
Speaker 1: And I think this is a great example. And it
Speaker 1: goes back to the off side thing, and and it's like,
Speaker 1: are we are we gonna call everything? I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean they called so they called illegal contact on a
Speaker 1: play that if it was beyond five yards down the field,
Speaker 1: it was five and a half and it was on
Speaker 1: the other side of the field, and it just wow,
Speaker 1: and you're just like, okay, so we're I understand you're
Speaker 1: seeing this, and I understand it's your job to call
Speaker 1: certain things, but doesn't there have to be a bit
Speaker 1: of common sense in it?
Speaker 3: Well there is no common sense now. And here's the thing.
Speaker 3: There used to be common sense because there was no
Speaker 3: replay and a call was a call and it was over.
Speaker 1: But per Arra had it when he was running the official.
Speaker 3: Frara had it because but here's what he did. I mean,
Speaker 3: look at the number of years that you had to
Speaker 3: be in the National Football League when I first start,
Speaker 3: right before you could be a referee, a referee in
Speaker 3: a white hat. Now they're fast tracking those guys so fast.
Speaker 3: What does that tell you about the roster that's behind them.
Speaker 3: They don't have enough experience in the big time doing it.
Speaker 3: And also all of this, all of the scrutiny that
Speaker 3: they are under, now they're choking on it. They're just
Speaker 3: choking on it.
Speaker 2: My question for you is how much of the league
Speaker 2: tweaking rules every offseason has accelerated this a lot. It's
Speaker 2: a significant part of the blame Pope it is.
Speaker 3: But to Mike's point, and I think they need to
Speaker 3: go back that they I mean, I've been in competition meetings.
Speaker 3: They need to go back and say, hey, how about
Speaker 3: all of these holding calls away from the play that
Speaker 3: have nothing to do with the play downfield that all
Speaker 3: of a sudden alter the whole sense of what's going
Speaker 3: on in that series. Can we come to an agreement
Speaker 3: that maybe this isn't part of it? And then the
Speaker 3: other thing is is start making them make definitive calls.
Speaker 3: Make a definitive make a call. If you're wrong, you're wrong.
Speaker 3: But by not making a call, then you're never right
Speaker 3: because just as you said, we're sitting up there and
Speaker 3: I feel it now more than ever, when you're on
Speaker 3: the sideline. On the sideline is the worst vantage point
Speaker 3: sure to watch a game. That's why there's people in
Speaker 3: the booth that tele ahead coach when the challenge. There's
Speaker 3: a lot that goes on communication wise, because you can
Speaker 3: see but we can see it. And when we see
Speaker 3: something like that, all we need is a little indication
Speaker 3: as to where they're initially going to go. That that
Speaker 3: just happened in this last ballgame was frightening to me
Speaker 3: because there was nothing, nothing called, and then it took
Speaker 3: him forever to figure out nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, it was unfair to Seattle, yes, because Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: had to challenge that yes, and he used his second
Speaker 1: challenge to do it, so he had over ten minutes
Speaker 1: remaining in the fourth quarter where he didn't have a
Speaker 1: challenge left. Yeah, and that's not fair. That's not fair
Speaker 1: to Seattle. That's not fair to Pete Carroll. The other
Speaker 1: part of it, too, is we're talking about fantasy football,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about the different things that go on
Speaker 1: with the draft and Taylor Swift and how many gambling
Speaker 1: and how many different things people choose to follow because
Speaker 1: they love the NFL.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is entertainment.
Speaker 1: And if you're calling something forty five yards away from
Speaker 1: the play that doesn't affect the play, is that good
Speaker 1: for the business?
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not and and so and and and they're going
Speaker 3: to come back and say, well, you know we're calling
Speaker 3: it by the letter of the law.
Speaker 2: No you're not.
Speaker 3: No, you're not. Now what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Is so you now agree they shouldn't have called that
Speaker 1: off side?
Speaker 2: He was offside.
Speaker 1: It all comes back to that.
Speaker 3: He was off side.
Speaker 1: It was off side? Did it effect? Should you have
Speaker 1: called that in that moment? Based on what I'm you know,
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm talking about with some of these
Speaker 1: other things. He was off sides, you're right, But some
Speaker 1: of these things, I think it's the common sense element
Speaker 1: to me that I mean, the call on the illegal
Speaker 1: contact was in on al Shire, I believe it was.
Speaker 1: I mean I was looking at it. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have five yards. He didn't punch the guy in the neck.
Speaker 1: He just sort of he bumped him pretty good. But
Speaker 1: if if it was beyond five yards, it was six,
Speaker 1: you're right coming on, I mean really well.
Speaker 3: And the the other thing that that just wears me out,
Speaker 3: who is of course I agree with protecting the quarterback,
Speaker 3: but when you got somebody and we had a call
Speaker 3: on us and then I mean I saw twice last
Speaker 3: week where they're hitting a quarterback in the mid section
Speaker 3: at the step and a half and then it right.
Speaker 3: So it's way out of whack, Mike, It's way out
Speaker 3: of whack. And I'm not saying this because I am
Speaker 3: I'm trying to detegrate the officials. I'm just I just
Speaker 3: know that the ground swell that's coming, even the uninitiated
Speaker 3: can watch it and go, is this right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well, you know, I think a lot of
Speaker 2: where the problem starts. We're at the.
Speaker 1: State high school associations all over the country are having
Speaker 1: a brutal time finding officials. They are they are begging,
Speaker 1: they're advertising for officials for Friday nights, and there has
Speaker 1: to be carryover to college from that. And if there's
Speaker 1: carryover from that, it's got to work its way up
Speaker 1: the pool from which you start. Because I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't start in the NFL. No, you start in high school.
Speaker 3: And that's the daisy chain of it. Sure, you're one
Speaker 3: hundred percent right, and there's not enough. Aren't they changing
Speaker 3: when high schools have to play games the day of
Speaker 3: the week, because.
Speaker 1: In Tennessee, every high school is required to play at
Speaker 1: least one Thursday so they can make sure and have
Speaker 1: enough cruise for for every weekend, so a crew can
Speaker 1: work a Thursday in a Friday.
Speaker 3: I mean, it is, it's it's it's a problem that
Speaker 3: I don't think is. I think it's one of those
Speaker 3: things that that you try to people try to dismiss
Speaker 3: and think they'll just go away.
Speaker 2: It's not going away. And you heard Mike Vrabel address
Speaker 2: it at his press conference on Tuesday, and the frustration
Speaker 2: you're hear in his voice is he said, all I
Speaker 2: want is consistency and stop the indecisiveness. Now, he mentioned
Speaker 2: his son Carter, who plays baseball now at what Tennessee Tech. Right,
Speaker 2: He's like, you got a ball, you got to strike,
Speaker 2: you got an out. You know it's there's a definitive
Speaker 2: call there. Then there's replay elements to help you know,
Speaker 2: figure out exactly what things are for something in question.
Speaker 2: He said, you know, the indecision is is a part
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: And I thought how he talked about the particular play
Speaker 1: we were discussing, he sounded much more like a member
Speaker 1: of the competition committee, correct, than he did the head
Speaker 1: coach of the Titans, because, like I said, it wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily unfair to the Titans as much as it was
Speaker 1: unfair to Seattle in that instance. I mean, the official
Speaker 1: to me has to know if I'm not sure I've
Speaker 1: got a call touchdown, because then it automatically goes to replay.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's and you're right, And Mike Rabel wasn't
Speaker 3: talking as the head coach of the Titan, No, he
Speaker 3: was talking for the good of the league.
Speaker 2: Sure, but he's what this is affecting.
Speaker 3: He's not the only one talking about this, right, And
Speaker 3: we're not just talking about you know, you know, calls
Speaker 3: against the Titans, That's not what we're talking about. We're
Speaker 3: talking about administration of the game. That's what we're talking.
Speaker 1: You know, what would really help the officials Duncan. Duncan,
Speaker 1: they need to if they had more Duncan on game day,
Speaker 1: this wouldn't go on this wouldn't go on. Yes, officiating
Speaker 1: runs on Duncan. A Titans fans and future officials. It's
Speaker 1: always game on with Duncan. So grab a coffee and
Speaker 1: kick off the action. Whether that's drin keep a cup
Speaker 1: of coffee on your way to the game, or grabbing
Speaker 1: one to go before watching the game at home, or
Speaker 1: officiating a game, Duncan is always there to help you
Speaker 1: get your game on. Just like the pros, we need
Speaker 1: to be at our best come game time, which is
Speaker 1: why Duncan is the most important part of your game
Speaker 1: day ritual because it's always the best call for football
Speaker 1: America runs on Duncan. Ready to go to Houston.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm ready to go. Let's go to Houston. Let's
Speaker 2: go to Houston.
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of folks they ask. You know,
Speaker 1: how do we keep going when the season's not going well?
Speaker 1: We get to go watch NFL football.
Speaker 3: Every week. You build up, you talk about and we've
Speaker 3: all been doing this a long time, but it's what
Speaker 3: you do when you when you when you want the
Speaker 3: competition part of it, you build up to it. For Get.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about game day in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's the best. It's the absolute best. I mean, do
Speaker 1: you have those moments Mike were looking, go, how are
Speaker 1: we We're to do this?
Speaker 2: This is crazy.
Speaker 1: It is crazy because because because you're a couple of goofs,
Speaker 1: y'all are really good at it. And I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: not disputing an agreement. Well, he's been there the whole time,
Speaker 1: so he knows full time, goof full time. All fans
Speaker 1: are not dopey. That's correct. That ought to be on
Speaker 1: a T shirt.
Speaker 3: The other thing about going to Houston, and of course
Speaker 3: it's just it's a sidebar to all this is that
Speaker 3: you got the original text Mex Restaurant down there.
Speaker 1: That we might go by there.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're going. Okay, we must.
Speaker 3: We're going and that and that and I as long
Speaker 3: as I've been with with Titans Radio, I've I've decided
Speaker 3: there's two things that as long as I'm with Titan Radio,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. And it's gonna be Coach Max centered.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Mama Niphas and and we're going
Speaker 3: to Saint Elmo's.
Speaker 1: Well we're gonna eat, yeah, but I mean we're we're
Speaker 1: gonna I mean, we're gonna go.
Speaker 2: That's my one thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and the other thing is is you're not
Speaker 3: you're you're not those two. Those two Like I'm just
Speaker 3: saying this for the o T. People know you're not
Speaker 3: paying for those two, So just get ready for that.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that. We'll see you're welcome.
Speaker 3: No, we're not seeing nothing.
Speaker 1: But but the thing is, we're we're gonna eat. We're
Speaker 1: gonna eat some spots.
Speaker 2: You mean, like the officials, you're not seeing nothing. That's
Speaker 2: like not seeing nothing.
Speaker 1: Didn't you like how I came up with the follow
Speaker 1: me through Tennessee features so I could go eat good.
Speaker 2: Places in Tennessee's genius.
Speaker 1: First, it's it's my highlight of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Gen Mike. I like the feature to begin with because
Speaker 2: I'm always interested in places in our great state of Tennessee.
Speaker 2: The excuse to eat just makes it.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so great. The one we have this week
Speaker 1: where we took Brett Kern to Jiffy Berger in Manchester. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's my favorite. It's right
Speaker 1: up there because of Kern because he was I mean,
Speaker 1: he had just retired, he had he had just retired,
Speaker 1: and I had just had my shoulder replaced two weeks earlier,
Speaker 1: so we had an opportunity to go. And he says, listen,
Speaker 1: if we're going to do it before I start traveling
Speaker 1: with my family this summer, we've got to go now.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know if I could drive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're all sling Oh.
Speaker 1: I was totally slinged up and I might have spent
Speaker 1: part of that day without the sling on orders.
Speaker 2: Oh and I'm mean.
Speaker 3: He paid for it, dude, didn't you?
Speaker 2: I did? Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: But the Bonner Burger was totally worth it. If you
Speaker 1: go to Manchester, go to Jeffy Berger. First of all,
Speaker 1: have your pick picture taken with the Titans helmet that
Speaker 1: we have there. They have a game warm Titans helmet
Speaker 1: now that they're very proud of. So ask them if
Speaker 1: you can be photographed with the Titans helmet and send
Speaker 1: it to us. We'd love to see it. But the
Speaker 1: Jiffy Burger is crazy with this Bonner Uberger. They have
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. Apparently they have a great
Speaker 1: breakfast too. It's an egg.
Speaker 3: Come on, you're starting off with cheese.
Speaker 1: Two patties, an onion ring, mayonnaise.
Speaker 3: While we're talking about on the road with Mike Keith.
Speaker 3: Let's where's the place that you stop when we go.
Speaker 5: To Mobile Durbin Farms. Oh, Durban Farms. Unbelievable, it's pretty great.
Speaker 5: It is un believe Clanton, Alabama, Exit two oh five.
Speaker 3: I mean we went.
Speaker 1: The ice cream is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: The whole setup is great.
Speaker 1: Well, so it's a farmer's market. It is that, and
Speaker 1: so you can get all kinds of produce and good
Speaker 1: preserve preserves and pecans and peanuts and I mean anything
Speaker 1: you want. And then you go inside and then they
Speaker 1: do like they've got a kitchen, and so they do
Speaker 1: sandwiches and so on and so forth. So it's good lunch.
Speaker 1: They kind of have a little bakery delio, but they
Speaker 1: they homemade. The ice cream is all homemade.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: It's the greatest cookies and cream ice cream that I've
Speaker 1: ever had.
Speaker 3: The whole thing was I was just fascinated. I mean
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: Those kind of places that you find, I loved it.
Speaker 3: And then you go on to that farmer's market. I
Speaker 3: mean I walked around in there with you and read
Speaker 3: for a long time. It took us longer to get
Speaker 3: the mobile. But it's worth the stop.
Speaker 2: Well, we hit it on the way back and I brought
Speaker 2: home all kinds of produce. And next time you have
Speaker 2: to pay for it. Though it is.
Speaker 1: You can't just walk out of there with it like
Speaker 1: you did last time.
Speaker 2: Right now, I don't even know if you tell me.
Speaker 3: That was a good move though cheaper, that was a
Speaker 3: good move.
Speaker 1: Made the keys, but against the I kind of wondered
Speaker 1: why you were in such a hurt.
Speaker 2: Give me the keys.
Speaker 1: Well, Durbin Farms, if you go there, tell them. We said, Hey,
Speaker 1: people who are on the way to thirty A will
Speaker 1: stop at Durban Farms.
Speaker 3: Great on the road with Mike Keith. There are some
Speaker 3: places that are really cool.
Speaker 1: But I love that. I love that stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: I admit it. Amy when she comes back, you know,
Speaker 1: we got started doing the follow me through Tennessee because
Speaker 1: she made fun of me on the OTP. She's like,
Speaker 1: I bet you know a spot and and I don't
Speaker 1: know a spot in every county, but I know enough, man,
Speaker 1: it's close. I know enough. And then I know enough
Speaker 1: people who can tell me make recommendation places to go. Yep,
Speaker 1: And it's like we went you know, we went to.
Speaker 2: The pie Shop.
Speaker 3: It's so great.
Speaker 1: And just outside of cook Fulle that is that is
Speaker 1: so great, the Rose Guarden, the Rose Garden off exit
Speaker 1: two seventy three, and you.
Speaker 3: Know, and it's so good. The first time I was
Speaker 3: ever exposed to it is going to cook Will to
Speaker 3: record something with Larry Stone and Doug Matthews just whips
Speaker 3: off the road and starts driving sauce. Where are we going?
Speaker 3: He said, you'll find.
Speaker 1: Out if you're going east. Just get off at two
Speaker 1: seventy three, take a rite and you go quarter of
Speaker 1: a mile and it sits there and it just says restaurant.
Speaker 3: It says restaurant.
Speaker 1: And you know a place is good when it just
Speaker 1: says restaurant, because that's really all you need to set food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here and the food is fantastic, but the pie unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even the world's biggest pie guy. I
Speaker 1: would be more of an ice cream guy than a
Speaker 1: pie guy.
Speaker 3: The thing is cool about that place, though, And it's
Speaker 3: just like all these kind of places we're talking about.
Speaker 3: I'm sure throughout Tennessee and Texas, anywhere you want of
Speaker 3: these these off you walk in there and if you walk,
Speaker 3: if you go by two or three weeks later, same
Speaker 3: people will be sitting there, right, the same people will
Speaker 3: be sitting there. I love that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been a lot of fun. But this
Speaker 1: one this weekend Jiffy Berger in Manchester. Uh, sweet people too,
Speaker 1: Golly David and his daughter, well.
Speaker 3: They're they're excited to when the voice of the Titans
Speaker 3: comes walking in the door and he comes bearing gifts.
Speaker 1: Couldn't lift it, but I had one at that point. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you picked this up, but you
Speaker 1: hand this to them please. There was some trick photography
Speaker 1: involved with that shoot because if you watch.
Speaker 2: There some Titans c G I involved.
Speaker 1: It's not really c G I. But they had to,
Speaker 1: like because I couldn't bump into anybody when you have
Speaker 1: that kind of surgery, you know, the big thing is
Speaker 1: you can't take a hit of any sort. So they
Speaker 1: let me get to the booth and then I was
Speaker 1: back in the corner of the booth with my shoulder
Speaker 1: just up against the wall so nobody would would bump
Speaker 1: into me. And then I'm just sitting there. It's it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh, he's really lazy because Brett
Speaker 1: Kerr went in the kitchen and flip burgers and I
Speaker 1: would normally love to do that. That would be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun, but I couldn't get near anybody at
Speaker 1: that point.
Speaker 3: See that's a little scene.
Speaker 1: Behind the city. Yes, So if you watch it on
Speaker 1: Titans All Access or you watch it on the Titans
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, keep an eye out for the fact that
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm I've got like a wind jacket
Speaker 1: on with a T shirt because that was all I could.
Speaker 2: Pull over my shoulder.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it in other way.
Speaker 2: You see this feature this weekend and you're gonna go,
Speaker 2: what the Devil's wrong with my whoa at the shoulder?
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: But Brett Kerr is just the best.
Speaker 2: Well, of course, of course he is.
Speaker 1: He was hilarious, he because he just really didn't care anymore.
Speaker 1: So he told like every story on the in the
Speaker 1: truck going down and yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: Be the next OTP. As a matter of fact, that's awesome, outstanding.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what we do we attempt to do outside
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Speaker 1: And watching and good to be headed to Houston with
Speaker 1: you boys, final road trip. Happy, happy New Year.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy New Year, Mike
Speaker 1: All right for Ret Brian and coach Dave mcgonnesson, Mike Keith,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us for the t