WEBVTT - The OTP | Week 17 at Texans Preview 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.160 This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:15.800 Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.640 Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.599 dot com. I'm Mike Keith, joined by coach Dave McGinnis 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:29.040 and Rhetbrian from Titans Radio. Here in the bet MGM studio. Gentlemen, 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:30.120 great to have you with us. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:32.559 It is good to be here. Great to be here. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:33.680 Week seventeen. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:35.199 Here we go, here we are. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:37.440 Will Levis wants to play. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:44.239 Dave McGinnis, what is the balance between being excited that 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.680 your young quarterback wants to play and trying to play 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:54.120 with everything he's doing, and then protecting him from himself. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.000 Well, they'll they'll have to determine whether he can protect 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:01.000 himself with movement because you know one day of practice 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.400 he participated fully on the first day, but it wasn't 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.760 a full speed day, which you know, they're trying to 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.959 get everybody up to speed, as you said, at the 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:13.600 seventeenth week of the season. But as the week unfolds, 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.200 seeing if he can protect himself movement wise, you know, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.880 throwing wise and everything of that nature. He's fine, but 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.600 it's just you know, with a lower extremity injury. You 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.960 want to be sure your quarterback can get himself out 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.360 of harm's way, because we all know that they're sooner 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.240 or later. Any quarterback in the league is going to 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:35.640 have to move and maneuver the cylinder. So that's what 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:36.240 they'll look at. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.400 Fans say, he's been involved with a team that has 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.240 given up fifty six sacks this year. He hasn't taken 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.720 all of them, but they have given up fifty six sacks. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.960 So don't send him out there for the last two games. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:50.920 How do you answer that? 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.360 No, you got you know you're competing. You you cannot. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.520 You cannot play coach this game or play this game 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.720 with fear of something bad might happen. You've got to 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.320 out go out there and make something good happen. That's 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.960 just not how you approach it at all. But they 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.320 will consider his health as far as to what he 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.239 can do to protect himself, and then I mean my 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:15.679 answer to that is block them. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:20.200 Right, what is the value in him playing the last 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:20.760 two games? 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.120 He still needs experience. This is going to be the quarterback, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.960 he's the quarterback of the future, and he still needs experience. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.480 He's had eight games and that's a small microcosm of 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.400 what he needs to develop. Being a starting quarterback in 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:38.839 the National Football League and playing two division games coming up. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.600 Those take on a different nature unto themselves, and so 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.320 any experience that he gets right now, you can do 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.240 all the whiteboard stuff you want, you can do all 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.560 the walkthroughs you want, you can do all the film 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.920 study you want. But until you experience it full and 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.400 in life and when everything is rolling, that experience doesn't 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:00.000 get embedded in your DNA. That's what he needs. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:03.120 He watched the first six games of the year ret 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.560 then he started the next eight, and then he watched 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.800 last Sunday. I thought in his press availability this week, 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.840 Will Levis was very insightful about how different it was 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.080 to watch last week than it was in September in October. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.919 And I think that's one of the reasons why, outside 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.160 of the obvious one that coach Mack pointed out about competing, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.480 I think you want to see what he does when 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.160 he gets the next opportunity after he's had a different 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.280 vantage point. You know, first handful of weeks there of 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.600 the regular season, he was doing it watching him from 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.440 the sidelines as the emergency quarterback. And now he has 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.640 a different perspective. But he did. He told all of 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:46.920 us how much it was different, in how much more 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.520 quickly the game will come to him and is coming 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.240 to him because of things that he recognizes and sees 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.520 as they're out there trying to do their thing, and he's, 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.560 you know, an observer. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.840 What's the most impressive thing you've seen will Levis do 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:01.720 as a rookie coach? 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.760 Mac He's he's fearless in the pocket. He is fearless 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.440 in the pocket. And then you know, you can you 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.640 can watch somebody, uh throw the ball when there's not 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.000 live things coming at him and you and making quick decisions. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.479 But his ability to stand in until the last instant 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.440 and then flick it and get it downfield and get 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.479 it to where it needs to go, that's very impressive. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.960 But the first thing is is he doesn't watch the rush. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.920 He doesn't watch the rush most young quarterbacks sooner or later. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.440 You mentioned the number of sacks. He hasn't taken all 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.800 of those, but he's taken too many of them, but 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.359 it still has not detereared him from looking downfield and 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.760 letting routes develop. He's not looking at the rush and 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.960 that's the first thing you look for, you know, if 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.000 you know, it's like taking a you know, getting a 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.240 brand new hunting dog and the first time that gun 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.440 goes off, is he gonna flinch or is he gonna 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.240 is he gonna? Is he gonna watch when the bird 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.240 goes down and go to get it and he doesn't flinch. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:01.400 That's what impresses me. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.840 Reference to a hunting dog here early in the OTP 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.279 sounds like a franchise hunting dog. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.200 I've got a lot of references. I know you in 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:10.679 my life. 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.400 I love I love the references. I wish we were 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.240 winning more because I think the references come out more 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.680 on Titan's radio when we're winning. They do, and they're 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:21.360 just less up. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.200 Yes, you know you've heard that. You've heard that, that 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.120 old axiom that dog will hunt. Yes, well that comes 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:27.720 from when you drop the tailgate, you know, and you 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.560 got you got hunting dogs that they're ready to go, 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.560 jump out, spinning around, ready to go. And you got 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.520 that one sitting in the back going what are we doing? 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:35.840 You don't want that one? 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.719 Yes, will Levis is the first group of dogs. 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.159 Till Levis is the first one out of the tailgate. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.040 But he has pocket awareness. He really does, because because 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.480 some guys, I mean, like David Carr, for example, was 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.200 a quarterback who took seventy two sacks in a year 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.000 and it was like he just never knew it was coming. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.039 And there are some quarterbacks that just stand in there 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.480 and you're like, fella, I mean, you've got to have 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.880 awareness that there has to be that clock in your head. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.960 And I sense that while Levis has the toughness to 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.479 not look at the rush, he also does have the 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:10.240 clock in his head. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.520 Well he does, but you know, and David carrs is 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.279 a great example. Of course. You know, he was with 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.120 a brand new team, right he had put a lot 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.520 of brand new guys together. I had David Carr and 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.360 the Senior Bowl when I was the head coach down there, 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.160 and he had all the physical attributes you want and 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.440 he was a smart guy. But you could see him 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.159 start looking at the rush about halfway through his rookie 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.800 year because as you said, it wasn't only the awareness. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.919 He didn't know what was coming from and that and 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.839 he never got out of that and that was a shame. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.359 But he did win a Super Bowl with the Giants. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.400 He was the backup quarterback. He now he's on TV. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.479 And you know what, and doing a good job with 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:46.839 that too. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.680 He does a nice job on television. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.560 You know the other thing that impresses me about will 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:56.039 levis in the eight games that he started, it'd be 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.880 easy for a guy like him, who's afforded a great 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.760 weapon in DeAndre Hopkins, just to go there a bunch. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.279 He found all how many of those games? In post 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.279 game we're talking about, he found six and seven different 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:13.880 receivers and deals the ball to to You know, he 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.680 doesn't he didn't go into the well at one particular Well, 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.000 he's distributing the ball like you would want to see 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.200 a pro quarterback do it. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.240 I mean, I think he's been coached to do that well. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.720 And that's a good point that Rehd makes because the 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.600 first time he went out there, he was forcing the 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.720 ball to hop. He was forcing the ball to Hop 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.480 And I think I wasn't privy to their conversations, but 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.080 they talk a lot, and I'm sure you know that 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.560 that DeAndre Hopkins has helped him a lot. And I'm 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.880 and I know DeAndre Hopkins is not telling him just 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.360 throw it to me, because DeAndre Hopkins is way savvy 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.160 in the way that this works. And to Rett's point, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.480 you have seen him grow in that instance. Now is 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.240 he there yet? No, he's not there yet. That's why, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.280 again back to the original question, why it's important or 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.920 why it would be helpful if he could be able 0:07:59.960 --> 0:08:02.400 to play these next two weeks those types of things. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.240 I'd like to see Hopkins go back to Houston and 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.480 have a good game, because he had a less than 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.880 stellar game against Houston when the two teams played up here, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.240 and it would be nice he'd get a chance to 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.480 go over one thousand yards back in the familiar stomping grounds. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.480 Derek Henry very close to his fifth thousand yard season, 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.400 I'd like to see him be able to accomplish that. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.040 I mean, there are individual marks that are out there. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.440 We talk about Hopkins with a thousand yards, we talk 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.760 about Henry with a thousand yards. Landry is a half 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.360 sack away from double digits. He's got nine and a half. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.720 And we've talked about the fact that Deniko Autrey is 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.840 four sacks away from setting the franchise record for sacks in. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:49.319 A season that's hard to believe, and career numbers for him, 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.920 career numbers at age thirty three, twelve quarterback sacks. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.800 Well, and it just shows with this season with seven 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.880 one score losses. It's not like you were getting rolled 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.360 every ball, right, and guys are playing and of course 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.840 any of these guys would trade any of those individuals 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.160 for wins. I mean you ask any one of them, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.360 they would. But it's an important part of it because 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.920 and they are still performing at a high level. Everybody 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.080 that you just mentioned, I mean, all of those guys 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.319 are professionals to the max. They're performing at a high 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.920 level regardless of the disappointment of not We've talked about 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.640 this before. The rewards in this league are not money. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.280 The rewards are winning games, but they're still going at 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.679 it even without that reward at the end that has 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.760 been you know, happened seven times with one score losses. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.360 Feel like we're going to get a healthier football team 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:40.000 this weekend. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.560 It sure seems like it. And I think that would 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:48.040 based off of just the initial look at the injury 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.640 report that came out Wednesday afternoon, in the fact that 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.840 I know they probably didn't do a ton of things, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.680 but there was no one who didn't participate, right. That 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.720 was my just looking at things Okay, where's the silver 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.400 lining here? Okay, that's good. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.560 So you know, I think healthy relative to where we 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.360 are now. Yeah, healthier than last week, Healthier. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.360 Than last week. Well, he declared what eight players out 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.000 on Friday, Coach Frabele did. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.679 Right, and then had to put some on ir because 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.800 they just weren't going to be ready to get back 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.240 for the next week. It's it's not that guys would 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.720 necessarily be out for the year in some of the cases. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.480 It's that you need a healthy body. Now there you go. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.080 It doesn't feel like that's going to be the case 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.120 at the end of this week. And so that's a 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.680 good thing is that you know, potentially could take a 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.360 team down there that has more available bodies and some 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.400 more experience as part of it. I mean, you looked 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.000 at last week. If you took out the three specialists, 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.200 Josh Wiley wasn't going to play. He was dressed, but 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.839 he was not going to play. And then you know, 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:53.880 a couple other guys were kind of dinged up too. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.800 I mean, they had maybe forty one forty two guys 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:58.520 who could. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.240 Really who could really help. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.240 Yeah, if you're being honest, that's exactly that's that's the number. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.559 That's the number they You know, they had guys dressed. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.079 It's a great point that you might, but they didn't 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.000 have a full compliment of players that could help in 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.400 the game. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.720 And Houston was not good against Cleveland. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.440 Well, first of all, we've mentioned it on the OTP before, 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:25.280 that Cleveland defense real deal. But yeah, they made life 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.679 difficult for them. I mean case Keenum throws two interceptions 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.480 pretty early on. They end up putting Davis Mills in there, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.400 and offensively, they had no answer for a month of 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:43.760 Mauri Cooper. I mean they just they dominated. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.400 Two hundred and sixty five yards receiving. Do you have 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:46.600 him on your fantasy team? 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.800 I do not. I wish that I did. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.600 I had you playing. Were you playing the guy who 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:52.640 had or the person? 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.520 No? No? And I did lose in this round, but 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.839 not by a ton of points because if the guy 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.800 played had him, it would have been a boat race pros. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.839 So let me let me ask you this question, who 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.400 who are the best players in twenty twenty three in fantasy? 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.520 Christian McCaffrey has to be. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:18.120 Mm hmm, absolutely who else? Uh, I'll tell you one 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.360 who has been really good as a rookie two that 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.319 have been good as rookies Jamir Gibbs, the running back 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.440 for the Detroit Lions. Okay, Sam Laporta, the rookie tied 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.920 end for the Detroit I had both of them, okay. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.480 And I'll tell you one that's a solid person who 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.160 just gets you double digit digit points every week is 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.280 Rashie Rice with the Kansas City Chiefs because they don't 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.240 have a lot of the weapons they've been used to having. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.280 I've never played fantasy, so I don't I don't know 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.840 how this works. And the reason I don't play fantasy 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.679 is because I don't want to pull for a player 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:56.040 against the Titans, because I'm I'm a competitive person, so 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.480 if I'm playing. When I used to play Fantasy Baseball, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.560 I was like up every more reading the box scores. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:07.520 You know, crazy, just crazy, and so but I don't 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.320 want to pull against anybody against the Titans because I 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.960 don't want one of my players on my fantasy team 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.280 to score a touchdown against the Titans. And I get 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.240 just as excited about them as I do a Titan 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:22.080 scoring a touchdown, which could happen, because I would lose 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:23.280 it and then that would be bad. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.320 There's a lot of times when I construct my roster, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.720 I have that in mind, going, oh, they're not playing 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:28.320 them this year. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.800 I like to take this guy. Yeah, I see I could. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.040 I'm too I can't do it. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:35.640 Sure, I never have. 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.920 Never you did real football. You don't have to hang 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.440 around with bozo's like us, who have to you know, 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.720 pick Well, there's thirty one years of you got to 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.520 pick pick the team. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.959 There's other reasons I like hanging with both of sols, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.200 like y'all, well, okay, there's other reasons. Fantasy football is 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:53.040 way down the list. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.280 I've played fantasy football off and on for over twenty years, 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.200 and I really I enjoy it. It's a good thing 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.760 to do with your friends or co workers, buddies, whatever. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:04.120 You make money. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.520 Uh. When I used to play in a league for 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.760 those things. Yes, this league is just for pride. There's 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:19.240 nothing invested so much get you zero. But I made 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.360 it to the semi finals in the league that I'm 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.920 in this year, which I thought that's pretty good because 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:30.160 I had Justin Jefferson and the quarterback with the Vikings 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.000 who three to Kirk Cousins, both you know, injured off 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.320 throughout the year, and that kind of. So I felt 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.560 fortunate that I made it that far in the thing. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.360 But it's fun, that's the thing about it's it's fun. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.720 But who was the first pick in your draft? I'm 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.520 interested to know who who is? 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.280 I don't know that. I think it was Christian McCaffrey. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.000 Christian McCaffrey, because I took I took Justin Jefferson to overall. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.360 Okay, you know the fantasy football that the Titans sponsored that, 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.920 you know, I went to the event that they had, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:01.920 you know, where they had the drafting, where they had 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:02.320 the drifting. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:03.239 Fascinating. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.160 Fascinating that Now, that fascinates me because I mean those 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:11.080 people had computers, they they knew all they knew. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.000 What was all electronic. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.400 It was, it was, it was real. It was a 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.560 snake draft, and I was I was fascinated by it. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:17.720 You know. 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:19.480 They asked me, would you come there and spend about 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.640 half an hour just visit with everybody, which I have 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:22.200 no problem. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:22.840 I love that. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.080 But I stayed for a long time just watching it. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.960 I mean, it's fascinating the details that go into it. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:33.840 Well, what's funny is when fantasy became a thing, we 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.640 could not play as NFL employees. Correct, we were not 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.960 allowed to play. Correct was gambling. And then the NFL 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:46.480 realized how many people were playing fantasy. Oh yeah, and 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.200 so then all of a sudden, fantasy was great, so 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.040 that then the league was sponsoring fantasy, embraced it. Well, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.200 it's like, what's happened with gambling? Sure it's It's like 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.760 so when when the realization hits that there's a way 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.680 to do it to you know, up your product. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.200 Prophet is not a dirty word. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.040 Prophet is not a dirty word. But it's also at 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.920 the time, and I think it's probably even higher than this. Now, 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.640 one in ten Americans was playing fantasy football, and to me, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:15.400 I believe it. 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:16.520 That's crazy. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.040 It's great for the game, sure it is. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:24.480 I have at the heart of the way that fantasy 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.720 football has gone for I guess it's been around thirty years, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.520 maybe thirty five, whatever it is. I have a cousin, 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.760 Greg who lives in Memphis, and he literally has been 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.960 playing fantasy football with his same friends from college for 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.120 thirty one years on the lague r They all it's 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.840 how they stay together, stay in touch with each other, right, 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.520 life things happens, They go play golf together, but all 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.440 the time. He's the one that kind of got me 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:57.240 turned onto it years ago. Cousin Greg, cousin Greg's big 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.360 from Memphis. Yeah, cousin Greg from Memphis. Yea, works for 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.199 FedEx and has for his whole career, and but he 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.480 loves fantasy football and it's a way he and his 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.320 college buddies have stayed connected. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.240 I really I like I like it for what it does. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.159 I really do. I really I like it for what 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:15.560 it does. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.080 Well, that's why the NFL whips everybody else in terms 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.520 of the ratings, is because they have so many different 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:27.080 ways that they pull you in and they're always looking 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.520 to pull at any thread to add audience. It's like 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.199 just what they did on Christmas. You know, the NBA 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.200 was always supposedly the owners of Christmas in terms of television. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.159 Well guess what, guess what not this time? Not this time. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.960 And you know, there there's some talk is when when 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:50.520 Christmas is on different days, does the NFL play a 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.520 Wednesday game? That's what will be next year Wednesday because 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.280 it's a leap year, and so yeah, do they start 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.439 looking to do that. But fantasy football was one of 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.439 the first threads that they pulled. They understood the power 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.520 of the draft, and we understand it. I mean, we'll 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.679 spend the next four months doing draft related things on 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.399 the OTP, on Tennessee Titans dot Com, on the Titans 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:22.120 YouTube site. Everything we do will be available via one 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.040 of our platforms. Yes, because people love the draft and 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:30.160 then the gambling aspect, you know them talking about gambling 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:35.080 now on ESPN and other things about here's the over 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.320 and under, and here's the line, and here here's. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.359 I've got some interesting prop bets for you. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.560 Well, but you know that used to be an outlier, 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.080 and the thing was, you didn't you know, like I 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.840 couldn't have when I did a radio show, I could 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.919 not have a gambling guy on because I was in 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.879 a college town and I was on the flagship station 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.040 for the for the University of Tennessee, and so I 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.600 could not have a gambling guy on. 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.120 Well, now gambling. 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:08.359 Guys are They're part of every segment of of different 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.639 shows everywhere. So you have all of these different things 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.320 that pull people in, and it's it's like the Taylor 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.960 Swift thing. The league is embracing the Taylor Swift thing 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:24.000 because it pulls more people in, It brings in a 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.320 little bit different audience of people who who want to 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.000 be interested. 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:33.959 Well, because this is you know, professional football is professional sports, 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.040 but it's also the entertainment. It is entertainment, it's entertainment business, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.800 and it's all of that stuff is great. I hope 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.360 the Titans invite me back for their fantasy draft next year. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:42.919 I loved it. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:44.720 I mean I thought i'd say, you'll get an invitation. 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.200 I would say, so, well, I'm begging for one here 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.399 on the kind of are what is it? What is 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.760 it about the draft process of that that interests you? 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.000 The fact that first of all people are they are? 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.080 I love, of course, you know, the real draft, how 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.960 much I'd love that. We all sure done that in 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.560 my whole life. You know, I've got notebooks full of 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:12.600 draft stuff. But I was amazed at how knowledgeable everybody was. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.960 And it was it was all different types of people 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.359 on the team, but they all knew and as I said, 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.240