1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith, joined by coach Dave McGinnis 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: and Rhetbrian from Titans Radio. Here in the bet MGM studio. Gentlemen, 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: great to have you with us. 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: It is good to be here. Great to be here. 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Week seventeen. 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: Here we go, here we are. 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Will Levis wants to play. 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, what is the balance between being excited that 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: your young quarterback wants to play and trying to play 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: with everything he's doing, and then protecting him from himself. 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: Well, they'll they'll have to determine whether he can protect 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: himself with movement because you know one day of practice 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: he participated fully on the first day, but it wasn't 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: a full speed day, which you know, they're trying to 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: get everybody up to speed, as you said, at the 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: seventeenth week of the season. But as the week unfolds, 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: seeing if he can protect himself movement wise, you know, 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: throwing wise and everything of that nature. He's fine, but 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: it's just you know, with a lower extremity injury. You 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: want to be sure your quarterback can get himself out 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: of harm's way, because we all know that they're sooner 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: or later. Any quarterback in the league is going to 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: have to move and maneuver the cylinder. So that's what 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: they'll look at. 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: Fans say, he's been involved with a team that has 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: given up fifty six sacks this year. He hasn't taken 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: all of them, but they have given up fifty six sacks. 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: So don't send him out there for the last two games. 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: How do you answer that? 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: No, you got you know you're competing. You you cannot. 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: You cannot play coach this game or play this game 35 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: with fear of something bad might happen. You've got to 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: out go out there and make something good happen. That's 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: just not how you approach it at all. But they 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: will consider his health as far as to what he 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: can do to protect himself, and then I mean my 40 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 3: answer to that is block them. 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: Right, what is the value in him playing the last 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: two games? 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: He still needs experience. This is going to be the quarterback, 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: he's the quarterback of the future, and he still needs experience. 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: He's had eight games and that's a small microcosm of 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: what he needs to develop. Being a starting quarterback in 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 3: the National Football League and playing two division games coming up. 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: Those take on a different nature unto themselves, and so 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: any experience that he gets right now, you can do 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: all the whiteboard stuff you want, you can do all 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: the walkthroughs you want, you can do all the film 52 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: study you want. But until you experience it full and 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: in life and when everything is rolling, that experience doesn't 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: get embedded in your DNA. That's what he needs. 55 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: He watched the first six games of the year ret 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: then he started the next eight, and then he watched 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: last Sunday. I thought in his press availability this week, 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: Will Levis was very insightful about how different it was 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: to watch last week than it was in September in October. 60 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the reasons why, outside 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: of the obvious one that coach Mack pointed out about competing, 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: I think you want to see what he does when 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: he gets the next opportunity after he's had a different 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: vantage point. You know, first handful of weeks there of 65 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: the regular season, he was doing it watching him from 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: the sidelines as the emergency quarterback. And now he has 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: a different perspective. But he did. He told all of 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: us how much it was different, in how much more 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: quickly the game will come to him and is coming 70 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: to him because of things that he recognizes and sees 71 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: as they're out there trying to do their thing, and he's, 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: you know, an observer. 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: What's the most impressive thing you've seen will Levis do 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: as a rookie coach? 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: Mac He's he's fearless in the pocket. He is fearless 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: in the pocket. And then you know, you can you 77 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: can watch somebody, uh throw the ball when there's not 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: live things coming at him and you and making quick decisions. 79 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: But his ability to stand in until the last instant 80 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: and then flick it and get it downfield and get 81 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: it to where it needs to go, that's very impressive. 82 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: But the first thing is is he doesn't watch the rush. 83 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: He doesn't watch the rush most young quarterbacks sooner or later. 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: You mentioned the number of sacks. He hasn't taken all 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: of those, but he's taken too many of them, but 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: it still has not detereared him from looking downfield and 87 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: letting routes develop. He's not looking at the rush and 88 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: that's the first thing you look for, you know, if 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: you know, it's like taking a you know, getting a 90 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: brand new hunting dog and the first time that gun 91 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: goes off, is he gonna flinch or is he gonna 92 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: is he gonna? Is he gonna watch when the bird 93 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: goes down and go to get it and he doesn't flinch. 94 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: That's what impresses me. 95 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Reference to a hunting dog here early in the OTP 96 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: sounds like a franchise hunting dog. 97 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: I've got a lot of references. I know you in 98 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 2: my life. 99 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: I love I love the references. I wish we were 100 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: winning more because I think the references come out more 101 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: on Titan's radio when we're winning. They do, and they're 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: just less up. 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: Yes, you know you've heard that. You've heard that, that 104 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: old axiom that dog will hunt. Yes, well that comes 105 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: from when you drop the tailgate, you know, and you 106 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: got you got hunting dogs that they're ready to go, 107 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: jump out, spinning around, ready to go. And you got 108 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: that one sitting in the back going what are we doing? 109 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: You don't want that one? 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: Yes, will Levis is the first group of dogs. 111 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: Till Levis is the first one out of the tailgate. 112 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: But he has pocket awareness. He really does, because because 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: some guys, I mean, like David Carr, for example, was 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback who took seventy two sacks in a year 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: and it was like he just never knew it was coming. 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: And there are some quarterbacks that just stand in there 117 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, fella, I mean, you've got to have 118 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: awareness that there has to be that clock in your head. 119 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: And I sense that while Levis has the toughness to 120 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: not look at the rush, he also does have the 121 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: clock in his head. 122 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: Well he does, but you know, and David carrs is 123 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: a great example. Of course. You know, he was with 124 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: a brand new team, right he had put a lot 125 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: of brand new guys together. I had David Carr and 126 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl when I was the head coach down there, 127 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: and he had all the physical attributes you want and 128 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: he was a smart guy. But you could see him 129 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: start looking at the rush about halfway through his rookie 130 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: year because as you said, it wasn't only the awareness. 131 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 3: He didn't know what was coming from and that and 132 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: he never got out of that and that was a shame. 133 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: But he did win a Super Bowl with the Giants. 134 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: He was the backup quarterback. He now he's on TV. 135 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: And you know what, and doing a good job with 136 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: that too. 137 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: He does a nice job on television. 138 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: You know the other thing that impresses me about will 139 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: levis in the eight games that he started, it'd be 140 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: easy for a guy like him, who's afforded a great 141 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: weapon in DeAndre Hopkins, just to go there a bunch. 142 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: He found all how many of those games? In post 143 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: game we're talking about, he found six and seven different 144 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: receivers and deals the ball to to You know, he 145 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: doesn't he didn't go into the well at one particular Well, 146 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: he's distributing the ball like you would want to see 147 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: a pro quarterback do it. 148 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's been coached to do that well. 149 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: And that's a good point that Rehd makes because the 150 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: first time he went out there, he was forcing the 151 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: ball to hop. He was forcing the ball to Hop 152 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: And I think I wasn't privy to their conversations, but 153 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: they talk a lot, and I'm sure you know that 154 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: that DeAndre Hopkins has helped him a lot. And I'm 155 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: and I know DeAndre Hopkins is not telling him just 156 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: throw it to me, because DeAndre Hopkins is way savvy 157 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: in the way that this works. And to Rett's point, 158 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: you have seen him grow in that instance. Now is 159 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: he there yet? No, he's not there yet. That's why, 160 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: again back to the original question, why it's important or 161 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: why it would be helpful if he could be able 162 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: to play these next two weeks those types of things. 163 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I'd like to see Hopkins go back to Houston and 164 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: have a good game, because he had a less than 165 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: stellar game against Houston when the two teams played up here, 166 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: and it would be nice he'd get a chance to 167 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: go over one thousand yards back in the familiar stomping grounds. 168 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Derek Henry very close to his fifth thousand yard season, 169 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him be able to accomplish that. 170 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there are individual marks that are out there. 171 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: We talk about Hopkins with a thousand yards, we talk 172 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: about Henry with a thousand yards. Landry is a half 173 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: sack away from double digits. He's got nine and a half. 174 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: And we've talked about the fact that Deniko Autrey is 175 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: four sacks away from setting the franchise record for sacks in. 176 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: A season that's hard to believe, and career numbers for him, 177 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: career numbers at age thirty three, twelve quarterback sacks. 178 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: Well, and it just shows with this season with seven 179 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: one score losses. It's not like you were getting rolled 180 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: every ball, right, and guys are playing and of course 181 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: any of these guys would trade any of those individuals 182 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: for wins. I mean you ask any one of them, 183 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: they would. But it's an important part of it because 184 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: and they are still performing at a high level. Everybody 185 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: that you just mentioned, I mean, all of those guys 186 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: are professionals to the max. They're performing at a high 187 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: level regardless of the disappointment of not We've talked about 188 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: this before. The rewards in this league are not money. 189 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: The rewards are winning games, but they're still going at 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: it even without that reward at the end that has 191 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: been you know, happened seven times with one score losses. 192 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Feel like we're going to get a healthier football team 193 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: this weekend. 194 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: It sure seems like it. And I think that would 195 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: based off of just the initial look at the injury 196 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: report that came out Wednesday afternoon, in the fact that 197 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: I know they probably didn't do a ton of things, 198 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: but there was no one who didn't participate, right. That 199 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: was my just looking at things Okay, where's the silver 200 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: lining here? Okay, that's good. 201 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: So you know, I think healthy relative to where we 202 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: are now. Yeah, healthier than last week, Healthier. 203 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: Than last week. Well, he declared what eight players out 204 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: on Friday, Coach Frabele did. 205 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Right, and then had to put some on ir because 206 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: they just weren't going to be ready to get back 207 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: for the next week. It's it's not that guys would 208 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: necessarily be out for the year in some of the cases. 209 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: It's that you need a healthy body. Now there you go. 210 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like that's going to be the case 211 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: at the end of this week. And so that's a 212 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: good thing is that you know, potentially could take a 213 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: team down there that has more available bodies and some 214 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: more experience as part of it. I mean, you looked 215 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: at last week. If you took out the three specialists, 216 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: Josh Wiley wasn't going to play. He was dressed, but 217 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: he was not going to play. And then you know, 218 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: a couple other guys were kind of dinged up too. 219 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they had maybe forty one forty two guys 220 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: who could. 221 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: Really who could really help. 222 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're being honest, that's exactly that's that's the number. 223 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: That's the number they You know, they had guys dressed. 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: It's a great point that you might, but they didn't 225 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: have a full compliment of players that could help in 226 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: the game. 227 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: And Houston was not good against Cleveland. 228 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, we've mentioned it on the OTP before, 229 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: that Cleveland defense real deal. But yeah, they made life 230 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: difficult for them. I mean case Keenum throws two interceptions 231 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: pretty early on. They end up putting Davis Mills in there, 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: and offensively, they had no answer for a month of 233 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: Mauri Cooper. I mean they just they dominated. 234 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty five yards receiving. Do you have 235 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: him on your fantasy team? 236 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: I do not. I wish that I did. 237 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: I had you playing. Were you playing the guy who 238 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: had or the person? 239 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: No? No? And I did lose in this round, but 240 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: not by a ton of points because if the guy 241 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: played had him, it would have been a boat race pros. 242 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: So let me let me ask you this question, who 243 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: who are the best players in twenty twenty three in fantasy? 244 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey has to be. 245 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, absolutely who else? Uh, I'll tell you one 246 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: who has been really good as a rookie two that 247 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: have been good as rookies Jamir Gibbs, the running back 248 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: for the Detroit Lions. Okay, Sam Laporta, the rookie tied 249 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: end for the Detroit I had both of them, okay. 250 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you one that's a solid person who 251 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: just gets you double digit digit points every week is 252 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: Rashie Rice with the Kansas City Chiefs because they don't 253 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: have a lot of the weapons they've been used to having. 254 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: I've never played fantasy, so I don't I don't know 255 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: how this works. And the reason I don't play fantasy 256 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: is because I don't want to pull for a player 257 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: against the Titans, because I'm I'm a competitive person, so 258 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: if I'm playing. When I used to play Fantasy Baseball, 259 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: I was like up every more reading the box scores. 260 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: You know, crazy, just crazy, and so but I don't 261 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: want to pull against anybody against the Titans because I 262 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: don't want one of my players on my fantasy team 263 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: to score a touchdown against the Titans. And I get 264 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: just as excited about them as I do a Titan 265 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown, which could happen, because I would lose 266 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: it and then that would be bad. 267 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: There's a lot of times when I construct my roster, 268 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: I have that in mind, going, oh, they're not playing 269 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: them this year. 270 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: I like to take this guy. Yeah, I see I could. 271 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm too I can't do it. 272 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: Sure, I never have. 273 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Never you did real football. You don't have to hang 274 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: around with bozo's like us, who have to you know, 275 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: pick Well, there's thirty one years of you got to 276 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: pick pick the team. 277 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: There's other reasons I like hanging with both of sols, 278 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: like y'all, well, okay, there's other reasons. Fantasy football is 279 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: way down the list. 280 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: I've played fantasy football off and on for over twenty years, 281 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: and I really I enjoy it. It's a good thing 282 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: to do with your friends or co workers, buddies, whatever. 283 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: You make money. 284 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: Uh. When I used to play in a league for 285 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: those things. Yes, this league is just for pride. There's 286 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: nothing invested so much get you zero. But I made 287 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: it to the semi finals in the league that I'm 288 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: in this year, which I thought that's pretty good because 289 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: I had Justin Jefferson and the quarterback with the Vikings 290 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: who three to Kirk Cousins, both you know, injured off 291 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: throughout the year, and that kind of. So I felt 292 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: fortunate that I made it that far in the thing. 293 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: But it's fun, that's the thing about it's it's fun. 294 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: But who was the first pick in your draft? I'm 295 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: interested to know who who is? 296 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: I don't know that. I think it was Christian McCaffrey. 297 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, because I took I took Justin Jefferson to overall. 298 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: Okay, you know the fantasy football that the Titans sponsored that, 299 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: you know, I went to the event that they had, 300 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: you know, where they had the drafting, where they had 301 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: the drifting. 302 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,239 Speaker 2: Fascinating. 303 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: Fascinating that Now, that fascinates me because I mean those 304 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: people had computers, they they knew all they knew. 305 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: What was all electronic. 306 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was real. It was a 307 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: snake draft, and I was I was fascinated by it. 308 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: You know. 309 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: They asked me, would you come there and spend about 310 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: half an hour just visit with everybody, which I have 311 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: no problem. 312 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: I love that. 313 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: But I stayed for a long time just watching it. 314 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: I mean, it's fascinating the details that go into it. 315 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: Well, what's funny is when fantasy became a thing, we 316 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: could not play as NFL employees. Correct, we were not 317 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: allowed to play. Correct was gambling. And then the NFL 318 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: realized how many people were playing fantasy. Oh yeah, and 319 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: so then all of a sudden, fantasy was great, so 320 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: that then the league was sponsoring fantasy, embraced it. Well, 321 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: it's like, what's happened with gambling? Sure it's It's like 322 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: so when when the realization hits that there's a way 323 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: to do it to you know, up your product. 324 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Prophet is not a dirty word. 325 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: Prophet is not a dirty word. But it's also at 326 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: the time, and I think it's probably even higher than this. Now, 327 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: one in ten Americans was playing fantasy football, and to me, 328 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: I believe it. 329 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 330 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: It's great for the game, sure it is. 331 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: I have at the heart of the way that fantasy 332 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: football has gone for I guess it's been around thirty years, 333 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: maybe thirty five, whatever it is. I have a cousin, 334 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: Greg who lives in Memphis, and he literally has been 335 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: playing fantasy football with his same friends from college for 336 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: thirty one years on the lague r They all it's 337 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: how they stay together, stay in touch with each other, right, 338 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: life things happens, They go play golf together, but all 339 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: the time. He's the one that kind of got me 340 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: turned onto it years ago. Cousin Greg, cousin Greg's big 341 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: from Memphis. Yeah, cousin Greg from Memphis. Yea, works for 342 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 2: FedEx and has for his whole career, and but he 343 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: loves fantasy football and it's a way he and his 344 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: college buddies have stayed connected. 345 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: I really I like I like it for what it does. 346 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: I really do. I really I like it for what 347 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: it does. 348 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Well, that's why the NFL whips everybody else in terms 349 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: of the ratings, is because they have so many different 350 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: ways that they pull you in and they're always looking 351 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: to pull at any thread to add audience. It's like 352 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: just what they did on Christmas. You know, the NBA 353 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: was always supposedly the owners of Christmas in terms of television. 354 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: Well guess what, guess what not this time? Not this time. 355 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: And you know, there there's some talk is when when 356 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Christmas is on different days, does the NFL play a 357 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: Wednesday game? That's what will be next year Wednesday because 358 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: it's a leap year, and so yeah, do they start 359 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: looking to do that. But fantasy football was one of 360 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: the first threads that they pulled. They understood the power 361 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: of the draft, and we understand it. I mean, we'll 362 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: spend the next four months doing draft related things on 363 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: the OTP, on Tennessee Titans dot Com, on the Titans 364 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: YouTube site. Everything we do will be available via one 365 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: of our platforms. Yes, because people love the draft and 366 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: then the gambling aspect, you know them talking about gambling 367 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: now on ESPN and other things about here's the over 368 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: and under, and here's the line, and here here's. 369 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: I've got some interesting prop bets for you. 370 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: Well, but you know that used to be an outlier, 371 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: and the thing was, you didn't you know, like I 372 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: couldn't have when I did a radio show, I could 373 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: not have a gambling guy on because I was in 374 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: a college town and I was on the flagship station 375 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: for the for the University of Tennessee, and so I 376 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: could not have a gambling guy on. 377 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: Well, now gambling. 378 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: Guys are They're part of every segment of of different 379 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: shows everywhere. So you have all of these different things 380 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: that pull people in, and it's it's like the Taylor 381 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: Swift thing. The league is embracing the Taylor Swift thing 382 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: because it pulls more people in, It brings in a 383 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: little bit different audience of people who who want to 384 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: be interested. 385 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 3: Well, because this is you know, professional football is professional sports, 386 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: but it's also the entertainment. It is entertainment, it's entertainment business, 387 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: and it's all of that stuff is great. I hope 388 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: the Titans invite me back for their fantasy draft next year. 389 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 3: I loved it. 390 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean I thought i'd say, you'll get an invitation. 391 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: I would say, so, well, I'm begging for one here 392 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: on the kind of are what is it? What is 393 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: it about the draft process of that that interests you? 394 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: The fact that first of all people are they are? 395 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 3: I love, of course, you know, the real draft, how 396 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: much I'd love that. We all sure done that in 397 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: my whole life. You know, I've got notebooks full of 398 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: draft stuff. But I was amazed at how knowledgeable everybody was. 399 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: And it was it was all different types of people 400 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: on the team, but they all knew and as I said, 401 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: they all had their computers there, and so you know, 402 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: I would I would go around to each table and 403 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 3: start talking, and then they would I'd say, well, who 404 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: who you guys looking at? And when I opened that can, 405 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: when I opened that can up, they could start telling 406 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: me start pulling and seeing it and here's where this 407 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: I was going, Wow, these people are invested in this. 408 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: But that's what I like, wouldn't you say that? 409 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Over the last seven years joining Titans Radio, that finding 410 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: out that fans are as invested as they are and 411 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: are as knowledgeable as they are is maybe the thing 412 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed learning the most. 413 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: Well, I've enjoyed. I've enjoyed it. It's a great point. 414 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: I enjoyed now being able to interact with the fans, 415 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: right because as a coach, you don't get that chance, 416 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: you know, maybe once or twice a year at a 417 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: you know, at a at a big event that you're 418 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: asked to go to you can do that. But now 419 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: I can be. I can be with the fans, and yes, 420 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: I love that. And and fans of the National Football League, 421 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, they're fans of the National Football League. 422 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: They are fervent about fervent about it, and I love 423 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: that well. 424 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: And that's a mistake I think a lot of people 425 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: in coaching, no matter what level it is, make is 426 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: they assume that people, all all fans, all fans are dopey. 427 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: That's the assumption that some coaches makes every wrong. It 428 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: is completely wrong. And then there are other coaches who don't. 429 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: We have a coach here who does not think all 430 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: fans are dope and not at all. Mike Rabel doesn't 431 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: feel that way. But when you you know, if you 432 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: open yourself up to it, and it's like some guys too. 433 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: And this is interesting rep because how many guys get 434 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: out of coaching, go into media and then in some 435 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: cases go back into coaching and they have a different 436 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: vantage point from where they've been dealing with fans, dealing 437 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: with people behind the scenes at ESPN or CBS or 438 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: wherever they are, and it makes them better, It helps them. 439 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: They're more amenable, sure are because more respectful, they are 440 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 2: understanding of what is really good. They've walked in some 441 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: different shoes, right, they really have in a small way. 442 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: It's what we've just been talking about with Will Levis. 443 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what he does if he plays 444 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: in these last two games with that one game of 445 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: watching from the sidelines with a different perspective now that 446 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: he's played and started eight games prior. 447 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: That's a good comparison. 448 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: That's a good point, good point. 449 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: And then some coaches don't care at all. 450 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: Zero zero. 451 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's a certain level you can't care 452 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: what everybody thinks and what everybody's that's that's different though. 453 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: That's different worrying about what people think are as far 454 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: as respecting people's fervor for the game, and that's that's 455 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: a that's a big thing to me, and I enjoy it. 456 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: I mean I enjoy everything about Titans Radio. I mean 457 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: it's it's it's great. I mean, there's a lot of things, 458 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: but some of the most fun is after a ball game, 459 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: especially at home, when the Titans win, being able to 460 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: hang out of that window and see the fans it's waving. 461 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: Like the Pope of have to hold his legs as 462 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: he hangs out to it. 463 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: I don't want him to fall out. That would not 464 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: be good. 465 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 3: I just love that because there everybody everybody can because 466 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: that's the that is the reward for this whole thing, 467 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 3: and the fans feel it. I mean they live it, 468 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: they feel it, and I respect that. 469 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: Seat Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the 470 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans 471 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: games or any live event in national seat Geek is 472 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: the place to do it. Seat geek, then do official 473 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: ticketing partner of the Titans. 474 00:23:54,560 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: So the Titans fans can fan nicely done Red wave 475 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: out the window. 476 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: Hey can wave out the window. Coach, So I want 477 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: to I want to go into an area of expertise 478 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: that Coach Mack has has certainly shown on the OTP lately. 479 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: You are the great defender of officials among us. You 480 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: started this two weeks ago defending them for calling off 481 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: sides in a in a late game situation in Kansas City. 482 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: They called it again. 483 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: I know, I know they and then they started calling 484 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: it again miraculous during the holiday season. We had another 485 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: miraculous after I don't know, yes it was anyway, what's 486 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: the deal not signaling anything after the DK Metcalf play 487 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: in the end zone last Sunday at Nissan Stadium. He 488 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: catches or doesn't catch a pass. 489 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. 490 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: Nobody signals anything. Explain that to me, Coach, What what 491 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: teaching point is that in the officials? In the officials, 492 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: I think, I think you go to page three, page 493 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: three and go pay three and say not good professional malpractice. 494 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Went in doubt. Don't do anything quent in doubt. Just 495 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: fade away. 496 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: That's awful. 497 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: So he catches the ball, but the question is did 498 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: he possess it? And did he get two feet down? 499 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: There's an official standing right there. 500 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: That's way too many questions. You can't expect you've got 501 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: to that's way too many questions. The answers. 502 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: The answer is if he's not sure, signal touchdown, because 503 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: then it is automatically reviewed. 504 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: Because they are anyway. 505 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 3: The answer is, it's horrible, but it's professional malpractice. Mike. 506 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm standing, I'm standing right there with you. 507 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: But I think on Titan's radio at that point, I've 508 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: gone crazy because I'm looking out there, I see nothing, 509 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: and at that that's the biggest fear in what we 510 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: do is that, you know, because radio is not a 511 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: visual medium, so people can't see it. We're trying to 512 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: help them see it through the radio, so to speak. 513 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: And the guy gives no signal. Nobody gives any signal. 514 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: Why would he? 515 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Why nobody anywhere gives any signals. 516 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Let me ask you something. 517 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: They don't throw the arms up, they don't, they don't 518 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: wave in complete. 519 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: It's like the play never happened. 520 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: It's like it never happened. 521 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: Can I ask both of you something. Why would they 522 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: give a signal? I mean they're only they're only officials. 523 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: I mean, why would they give it us mark the ball? 524 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: It's awful. 525 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: Well, so I look at Brad Willis. Whose spots and 526 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: by the way, if they're present, company excluded because you 527 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: were a very great, great spot or at when you 528 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: did that job. Brad Willis is a fabulous spot, tremendous. 529 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean he I could just I could not look 530 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: at the field and just look at Brad and he 531 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: could show me the game. I could do the game 532 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: just looking at him, because he could point here's who's 533 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: got the ball, Here's where the ball went. He I mean, 534 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: he's amazing. I look at him, thinking, Okay, this is 535 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: the point where I've lost my mind. I knew it 536 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: would happen someday, but this is the point. You listen, 537 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: I thought, at that moment in time, I thought, I 538 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: have lost twenty four. And they've got that camera right 539 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: there in the booth on us, And so you could 540 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: see the look of horror on my face because I 541 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: don't know what's happened. Because he's going away from us. 542 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: He's at the far end of the field, far end 543 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: to us. He's on the far end of the far 544 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: end of He's on the far end of the end zone, 545 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: on the far end of the field. Yes, we can't 546 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: see it. It's obvious he's caught the ball, but we 547 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: can't tell and no signals. So I look at Brad 548 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: and Brad looks at me like I got nothing. I 549 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: got nothing, I got absolutely nothing. It I mean, you 550 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: can't do that, do the. 551 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: Total deer in the headlights total mike. 552 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: It It just it just points out. And again, I 553 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: know how hard it is. I lived I lived on 554 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: the sideline for thirty one years. I know how hard 555 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 3: it is. But it's not hard to do your job. 556 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: And when you're that indecisive, I think all the instant 557 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: replay is paralyzed these guys. It has paralyzed these guys 558 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 3: to the point as and again I keep talking about 559 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: they fast tracked people into this league so fast that 560 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: it's just it's it's it's too much for him. It's 561 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: like the screen went blank on that dude. And I'm 562 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: just sitting there looking going this is amazing because the 563 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: no call and it took them a while to sort 564 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: it out. 565 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: I want to ask you. Yeah, there's been talk about 566 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: will they ever be be made full time officials. I 567 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: don't think that will matter, is okay, that's my question. 568 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: Well what would they My question to that is I've 569 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: heard the advocates for full time officials. 570 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, what would. 571 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: They do all day? 572 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 573 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: But here's the thing, Touchdown fantasy Football are so they'll 574 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 4: watch every play that ever happened, and that I think 575 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: they're just paralyzed right now. 576 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: And I think this is a great example. And it 577 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: goes back to the off side thing, and and it's like, 578 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: are we are we gonna call everything? I mean, I 579 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: mean they called so they called illegal contact on a 580 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: play that if it was beyond five yards down the field, 581 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: it was five and a half and it was on 582 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: the other side of the field, and it just wow, 583 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: and you're just like, okay, so we're I understand you're 584 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: seeing this, and I understand it's your job to call 585 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: certain things, but doesn't there have to be a bit 586 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: of common sense in it? 587 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: Well there is no common sense now. And here's the thing. 588 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: There used to be common sense because there was no 589 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: replay and a call was a call and it was over. 590 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: But per Arra had it when he was running the official. 591 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: Frara had it because but here's what he did. I mean, 592 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: look at the number of years that you had to 593 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: be in the National Football League when I first start, 594 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 3: right before you could be a referee, a referee in 595 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: a white hat. Now they're fast tracking those guys so fast. 596 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: What does that tell you about the roster that's behind them. 597 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: They don't have enough experience in the big time doing it. 598 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: And also all of this, all of the scrutiny that 599 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: they are under, now they're choking on it. They're just 600 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: choking on it. 601 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: My question for you is how much of the league 602 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: tweaking rules every offseason has accelerated this a lot. It's 603 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 2: a significant part of the blame Pope it is. 604 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: But to Mike's point, and I think they need to 605 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: go back that they I mean, I've been in competition meetings. 606 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: They need to go back and say, hey, how about 607 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: all of these holding calls away from the play that 608 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: have nothing to do with the play downfield that all 609 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: of a sudden alter the whole sense of what's going 610 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: on in that series. Can we come to an agreement 611 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: that maybe this isn't part of it? And then the 612 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: other thing is is start making them make definitive calls. 613 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: Make a definitive make a call. If you're wrong, you're wrong. 614 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 3: But by not making a call, then you're never right 615 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: because just as you said, we're sitting up there and 616 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: I feel it now more than ever, when you're on 617 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: the sideline. On the sideline is the worst vantage point 618 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: sure to watch a game. That's why there's people in 619 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: the booth that tele ahead coach when the challenge. There's 620 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: a lot that goes on communication wise, because you can 621 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: see but we can see it. And when we see 622 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: something like that, all we need is a little indication 623 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 3: as to where they're initially going to go. That that 624 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: just happened in this last ballgame was frightening to me 625 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: because there was nothing, nothing called, and then it took 626 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: him forever to figure out nothing. 627 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: Well, it was unfair to Seattle, yes, because Pete Carroll 628 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: had to challenge that yes, and he used his second 629 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: challenge to do it, so he had over ten minutes 630 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: remaining in the fourth quarter where he didn't have a 631 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: challenge left. Yeah, and that's not fair. That's not fair 632 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: to Seattle. That's not fair to Pete Carroll. The other 633 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: part of it, too, is we're talking about fantasy football, 634 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: and we're talking about the different things that go on 635 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: with the draft and Taylor Swift and how many gambling 636 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: and how many different things people choose to follow because 637 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: they love the NFL. 638 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: I mean, this is entertainment. 639 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: And if you're calling something forty five yards away from 640 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: the play that doesn't affect the play, is that good 641 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: for the business? 642 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 643 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: It's not and and so and and and they're going 644 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: to come back and say, well, you know we're calling 645 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: it by the letter of the law. 646 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: No you're not. 647 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 3: No, you're not. Now what you're doing. 648 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Is so you now agree they shouldn't have called that 649 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: off side? 650 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: He was offside. 651 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: It all comes back to that. 652 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: He was off side. 653 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: It was off side? Did it effect? Should you have 654 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: called that in that moment? Based on what I'm you know, 655 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm talking about with some of these 656 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: other things. He was off sides, you're right, But some 657 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: of these things, I think it's the common sense element 658 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: to me that I mean, the call on the illegal 659 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: contact was in on al Shire, I believe it was. 660 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean I was looking at it. I mean, you 661 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: have five yards. He didn't punch the guy in the neck. 662 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: He just sort of he bumped him pretty good. But 663 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: if if it was beyond five yards, it was six, 664 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: you're right coming on, I mean really well. 665 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: And the the other thing that that just wears me out, 666 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: who is of course I agree with protecting the quarterback, 667 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: but when you got somebody and we had a call 668 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: on us and then I mean I saw twice last 669 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 3: week where they're hitting a quarterback in the mid section 670 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 3: at the step and a half and then it right. 671 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: So it's way out of whack, Mike, It's way out 672 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: of whack. And I'm not saying this because I am 673 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to detegrate the officials. I'm just I just 674 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: know that the ground swell that's coming, even the uninitiated 675 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: can watch it and go, is this right? 676 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well, you know, I think a lot of 677 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: where the problem starts. We're at the. 678 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: State high school associations all over the country are having 679 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: a brutal time finding officials. They are they are begging, 680 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: they're advertising for officials for Friday nights, and there has 681 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: to be carryover to college from that. And if there's 682 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: carryover from that, it's got to work its way up 683 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: the pool from which you start. Because I mean, you 684 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: don't start in the NFL. No, you start in high school. 685 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: And that's the daisy chain of it. Sure, you're one 686 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: hundred percent right, and there's not enough. Aren't they changing 687 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 3: when high schools have to play games the day of 688 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 3: the week, because. 689 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: In Tennessee, every high school is required to play at 690 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: least one Thursday so they can make sure and have 691 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: enough cruise for for every weekend, so a crew can 692 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: work a Thursday in a Friday. 693 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it is, it's it's it's a problem that 694 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: I don't think is. I think it's one of those 695 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 3: things that that you try to people try to dismiss 696 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: and think they'll just go away. 697 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 2: It's not going away. And you heard Mike Vrabel address 698 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: it at his press conference on Tuesday, and the frustration 699 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: you're hear in his voice is he said, all I 700 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: want is consistency and stop the indecisiveness. Now, he mentioned 701 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: his son Carter, who plays baseball now at what Tennessee Tech. Right, 702 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: He's like, you got a ball, you got to strike, 703 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: you got an out. You know it's there's a definitive 704 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: call there. Then there's replay elements to help you know, 705 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: figure out exactly what things are for something in question. 706 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: He said, you know, the indecision is is a part 707 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 2: as well. 708 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: And I thought how he talked about the particular play 709 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: we were discussing, he sounded much more like a member 710 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: of the competition committee, correct, than he did the head 711 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: coach of the Titans, because, like I said, it wasn't 712 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: necessarily unfair to the Titans as much as it was 713 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: unfair to Seattle in that instance. I mean, the official 714 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: to me has to know if I'm not sure I've 715 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: got a call touchdown, because then it automatically goes to replay. 716 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: Well, and that's and you're right, And Mike Rabel wasn't 717 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: talking as the head coach of the Titan, No, he 718 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 3: was talking for the good of the league. 719 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: Sure, but he's what this is affecting. 720 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 3: He's not the only one talking about this, right, And 721 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 3: we're not just talking about you know, you know, calls 722 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 3: against the Titans, That's not what we're talking about. We're 723 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 3: talking about administration of the game. That's what we're talking. 724 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: You know, what would really help the officials Duncan. Duncan, 725 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: they need to if they had more Duncan on game day, 726 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: this wouldn't go on this wouldn't go on. Yes, officiating 727 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: runs on Duncan. A Titans fans and future officials. It's 728 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: always game on with Duncan. So grab a coffee and 729 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: kick off the action. Whether that's drin keep a cup 730 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: of coffee on your way to the game, or grabbing 731 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: one to go before watching the game at home, or 732 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: officiating a game, Duncan is always there to help you 733 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: get your game on. Just like the pros, we need 734 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: to be at our best come game time, which is 735 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: why Duncan is the most important part of your game 736 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: day ritual because it's always the best call for football 737 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: America runs on Duncan. Ready to go to Houston. 738 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: Let's go. 739 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm ready to go. Let's go to Houston. Let's 740 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: go to Houston. 741 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: That's what a lot of folks they ask. You know, 742 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: how do we keep going when the season's not going well? 743 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: We get to go watch NFL football. 744 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: Every week. You build up, you talk about and we've 745 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: all been doing this a long time, but it's what 746 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: you do when you when you when you want the 747 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 3: competition part of it, you build up to it. For Get. 748 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about game day in the NFL. 749 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: It's the best. It's the absolute best. I mean, do 750 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: you have those moments Mike were looking, go, how are 751 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: we We're to do this? 752 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: This is crazy. 753 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: It is crazy because because because you're a couple of goofs, 754 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: y'all are really good at it. And I'm just I'm 755 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: not disputing an agreement. Well, he's been there the whole time, 756 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: so he knows full time, goof full time. All fans 757 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: are not dopey. That's correct. That ought to be on 758 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: a T shirt. 759 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: The other thing about going to Houston, and of course 760 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 3: it's just it's a sidebar to all this is that 761 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 3: you got the original text Mex Restaurant down there. 762 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 1: That we might go by there. 763 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, we're going. Okay, we must. 764 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 3: We're going and that and that and I as long 765 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: as I've been with with Titans Radio, I've I've decided 766 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 3: there's two things that as long as I'm with Titan Radio, 767 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. And it's gonna be Coach Max centered. 768 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Mama Niphas and and we're going 769 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: to Saint Elmo's. 770 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: Well we're gonna eat, yeah, but I mean we're we're 771 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: gonna I mean, we're gonna go. 772 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: That's my one thing. 773 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And and the other thing is is you're not 774 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 3: you're you're not those two. Those two Like I'm just 775 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: saying this for the o T. People know you're not 776 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: paying for those two, So just get ready for that. 777 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that. We'll see you're welcome. 778 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 3: No, we're not seeing nothing. 779 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: But but the thing is, we're we're gonna eat. We're 780 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna eat some spots. 781 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 2: You mean, like the officials, you're not seeing nothing. That's 782 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: like not seeing nothing. 783 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: Didn't you like how I came up with the follow 784 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: me through Tennessee features so I could go eat good. 785 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: Places in Tennessee's genius. 786 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: First, it's it's my highlight of twenty twenty. 787 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 2: Gen Mike. I like the feature to begin with because 788 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm always interested in places in our great state of Tennessee. 789 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: The excuse to eat just makes it. 790 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: Oh, it's so great. The one we have this week 791 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: where we took Brett Kern to Jiffy Berger in Manchester. Okay, 792 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's my favorite. It's right 793 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: up there because of Kern because he was I mean, 794 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: he had just retired, he had he had just retired, 795 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: and I had just had my shoulder replaced two weeks earlier, 796 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: so we had an opportunity to go. And he says, listen, 797 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: if we're going to do it before I start traveling 798 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: with my family this summer, we've got to go now. 799 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: So I didn't know if I could drive. 800 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're all sling Oh. 801 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: I was totally slinged up and I might have spent 802 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: part of that day without the sling on orders. 803 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: Oh and I'm mean. 804 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 3: He paid for it, dude, didn't you? 805 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 2: I did? Yeah, I did. 806 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: But the Bonner Burger was totally worth it. If you 807 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: go to Manchester, go to Jeffy Berger. First of all, 808 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: have your pick picture taken with the Titans helmet that 809 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: we have there. They have a game warm Titans helmet 810 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: now that they're very proud of. So ask them if 811 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: you can be photographed with the Titans helmet and send 812 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: it to us. We'd love to see it. But the 813 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: Jiffy Burger is crazy with this Bonner Uberger. They have 814 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. Apparently they have a great 815 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: breakfast too. It's an egg. 816 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 3: Come on, you're starting off with cheese. 817 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: Two patties, an onion ring, mayonnaise. 818 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 3: While we're talking about on the road with Mike Keith. 819 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 3: Let's where's the place that you stop when we go. 820 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 5: To Mobile Durbin Farms. Oh, Durban Farms. Unbelievable, it's pretty great. 821 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,959 Speaker 5: It is un believe Clanton, Alabama, Exit two oh five. 822 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 3: I mean we went. 823 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: The ice cream is unbelievable. 824 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 3: The whole setup is great. 825 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, so it's a farmer's market. It is that, and 826 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: so you can get all kinds of produce and good 827 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: preserve preserves and pecans and peanuts and I mean anything 828 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: you want. And then you go inside and then they 829 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: do like they've got a kitchen, and so they do 830 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: sandwiches and so on and so forth. So it's good lunch. 831 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: They kind of have a little bakery delio, but they 832 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: they homemade. The ice cream is all homemade. 833 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 3: It is. 834 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: It's the greatest cookies and cream ice cream that I've 835 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: ever had. 836 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 3: The whole thing was I was just fascinated. I mean 837 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 3: I loved it. 838 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: I loved it. 839 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: Those kind of places that you find, I loved it. 840 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: And then you go on to that farmer's market. I 841 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: mean I walked around in there with you and read 842 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: for a long time. It took us longer to get 843 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 3: the mobile. But it's worth the stop. 844 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: Well, we hit it on the way back and I brought 845 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: home all kinds of produce. And next time you have 846 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 2: to pay for it. Though it is. 847 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: You can't just walk out of there with it like 848 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: you did last time. 849 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 2: Right now, I don't even know if you tell me. 850 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 3: That was a good move though cheaper, that was a 851 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: good move. 852 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: Made the keys, but against the I kind of wondered 853 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: why you were in such a hurt. 854 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: Give me the keys. 855 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: Well, Durbin Farms, if you go there, tell them. We said, Hey, 856 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: people who are on the way to thirty A will 857 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: stop at Durban Farms. 858 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 3: Great on the road with Mike Keith. There are some 859 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 3: places that are really cool. 860 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: But I love that. I love that stuff. I mean, 861 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: I admit it. Amy when she comes back, you know, 862 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: we got started doing the follow me through Tennessee because 863 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: she made fun of me on the OTP. She's like, 864 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: I bet you know a spot and and I don't 865 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: know a spot in every county, but I know enough, man, 866 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: it's close. I know enough. And then I know enough 867 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: people who can tell me make recommendation places to go. Yep, 868 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: And it's like we went you know, we went to. 869 00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 2: The pie Shop. 870 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 3: It's so great. 871 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: And just outside of cook Fulle that is that is 872 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,959 Speaker 1: so great, the Rose Guarden, the Rose Garden off exit 873 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: two seventy three, and you. 874 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 3: Know, and it's so good. The first time I was 875 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 3: ever exposed to it is going to cook Will to 876 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 3: record something with Larry Stone and Doug Matthews just whips 877 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,959 Speaker 3: off the road and starts driving sauce. Where are we going? 878 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 3: He said, you'll find. 879 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: Out if you're going east. Just get off at two 880 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: seventy three, take a rite and you go quarter of 881 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 1: a mile and it sits there and it just says restaurant. 882 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 3: It says restaurant. 883 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: And you know a place is good when it just 884 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: says restaurant, because that's really all you need to set food. Yeah, 885 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: here and the food is fantastic, but the pie unbelievable, unbelievable. 886 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not even the world's biggest pie guy. I 887 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: would be more of an ice cream guy than a 888 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: pie guy. 889 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 3: The thing is cool about that place, though, And it's 890 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 3: just like all these kind of places we're talking about. 891 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 3: I'm sure throughout Tennessee and Texas, anywhere you want of 892 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 3: these these off you walk in there and if you walk, 893 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: if you go by two or three weeks later, same 894 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 3: people will be sitting there, right, the same people will 895 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 3: be sitting there. I love that stuff. 896 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been a lot of fun. But this 897 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: one this weekend Jiffy Berger in Manchester. Uh, sweet people too, 898 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: Golly David and his daughter, well. 899 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 3: They're they're excited to when the voice of the Titans 900 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 3: comes walking in the door and he comes bearing gifts. 901 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: Couldn't lift it, but I had one at that point. Yeah. 902 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you picked this up, but you 903 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: hand this to them please. There was some trick photography 904 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: involved with that shoot because if you watch. 905 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 2: There some Titans c G I involved. 906 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: It's not really c G I. But they had to, 907 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: like because I couldn't bump into anybody when you have 908 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: that kind of surgery, you know, the big thing is 909 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: you can't take a hit of any sort. So they 910 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: let me get to the booth and then I was 911 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: back in the corner of the booth with my shoulder 912 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: just up against the wall so nobody would would bump 913 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: into me. And then I'm just sitting there. It's it 914 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh, he's really lazy because Brett 915 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: Kerr went in the kitchen and flip burgers and I 916 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: would normally love to do that. That would be a 917 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: lot of fun, but I couldn't get near anybody at 918 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: that point. 919 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 3: See that's a little scene. 920 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: Behind the city. Yes, So if you watch it on 921 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: Titans All Access or you watch it on the Titans 922 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, keep an eye out for the fact that 923 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm I've got like a wind jacket 924 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: on with a T shirt because that was all I could. 925 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 2: Pull over my shoulder. 926 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it in other way. 927 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 2: You see this feature this weekend and you're gonna go, 928 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 2: what the Devil's wrong with my whoa at the shoulder? 929 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 2: There you go. 930 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 1: But Brett Kerr is just the best. 931 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: Well, of course, of course he is. 932 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: He was hilarious, he because he just really didn't care anymore. 933 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: So he told like every story on the in the 934 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: truck going down and yeah, that's good. 935 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 2: Be the next OTP. As a matter of fact, that's awesome, outstanding. 936 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's what we do we attempt to do outside 937 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: subscribe to the OTP. It's worth please what do they say, subscribe, 938 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: rate and review? All right, well, thanks for rating and reviewing. 939 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: And watching and good to be headed to Houston with 940 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: you boys, final road trip. Happy, happy New Year. 941 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy New Year, Mike 942 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: All right for Ret Brian and coach Dave mcgonnesson, Mike Keith, 943 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us for the t